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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Legacy Collection => Topic started by: Jesse James on December 9, 2008, 02:06 PM
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Since I don't have a good place to post either of these, I thought I'd start a new thread...
Today we got a few prototype/test shot images, and 2 of them were very odd to me. The one appears to be a new Colman Trebor figure (possibly), while the other seems to be a new Ewok sporting a Stormtrooper's belt.
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_ColTrebor_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_EwokBelt_TN.jpg)
Head on out to the front page to check both out. I truly hope that is indeed a new Colman Trebor we're going to get, as he was disappointing to me as a figure. The Ewok looks like he'll fill in the furball ranks pretty nicely too, and even has a new axe weapon (cool).
Anyone have any thoughts on these or the other protos pictured today?
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That Ewok is from the upcoming Comic Pack
(http://www.rebelscum.com/SDCC08/hasbro/presentation/Slide57.JPG)
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And Colman Trebor was discussed in the recent batch of Q&A at MouseDroid.com (http://www.mousedroid.com/hasbro/hasbro17.html):
"Coleman Trebor is a "refresh" figure meaning he is partly new, but designed to have more articulation than previous figures. In this case, we are using his head and possibly hands, another super-articulated Jedi body, and creating a new torso to bring them all together (and new calves as well). No word yet on being able to sit, but we hope so. As far as which wave he is in...the answer is "none." He will be part of a very cool exclusive 2-pack assortment coming mid-next year."
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And Colman Trebor was discussed in the recent batch of Q&A at MouseDroid.com (http://www.mousedroid.com/hasbro/hasbro17.html):
"Coleman Trebor is a "refresh" figure meaning he is partly new, but designed to have more articulation than previous figures. In this case, we are using his head and possibly hands, another super-articulated Jedi body, and creating a new torso to bring them all together (and new calves as well). No word yet on being able to sit, but we hope so. As far as which wave he is in...the answer is "none." He will be part of a very cool exclusive 2-pack assortment coming mid-next year."
He looks like he uses the Evo Qui-Gon as a base for the refesh. The Arms, Pecker area, Skirt and Thighs. The Boots, Torso, hands and head look new. I am happy to see him upgraded now I can ditch the old one I have.
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I agree as Colman's a pretty neat alien design but was not good fodder ultimately. I'm glad to see a better articulated version that, I hope, will be a little more available in some degree.
Thanks to Scott and Jeff for clearing up the mystery (which was mostly only one to me). I appreciate that. :)
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oops...
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A simple custom repaint of the hoods from the ewok set, and it'll make some great background filler!
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"Coleman Trebor is a "refresh" figure meaning he is partly new, but designed to have more articulation than previous figures.
I guess that's the same thing that's happening to the Evo Commando's. Makes me wish it would have done right the first time, but at least the figures are getting corrected.
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Kit Fisto
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/JesseVader08/1ProtoKitFisto.jpg)
Ponytail Jedi
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/JesseVader08/1ProtoPonytail.jpg)
Unknown Jedi
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/JesseVader08/1ProtoUnknownJedi.jpg)
Jedi Younglings
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/JesseVader08/1ProtoYoungling1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/JesseVader08/1ProtoYoungling2.jpg)
edit - just replaced pic links with ones that will last longer than eBay ones - Jesse
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I bet the upcoming 2-packs are gonna be Arena-related. Maybe a Jedi and a droid? Because we already know Coleman Trebor's coming in a 2-pack, and those guys look like an Episode II Kit Fisto, Roth-del Masona, and Joclad Danva.
Just guessing though. Whatever these end up being, it's very cool to be getting some more Arena Jedi.
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These are either part of wave 7 or the Target exclusive 2-packs. And since Coleman Trebor seems to be a part of that I think we can safely say that it's themed as a Battle of Geonosis or Arena Battle 2-pack series.
We've seen what appear to be 5 Jedi like this so far.
-Coleman Trebor
-Kit Fisto
-Rotha del Masona
-Joclad Danva
-Unknown Jedi (short dark hair)
Plus the seller was also showing Geonosian warrior and Destroyer Droid prototypes. That gets me thinking that it's Jedi VS Seperatists.
As for the younglings? I think they might be part of the AOTC wave as a 2-pack.
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Hopefully that Kit Fisto will fit in his Jedi Starfighter. None of the others do.
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Another one,
(http://i14.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/2a/1b/c354_1.JPG)
Plus the seller was also showing Geonosian warrior and Destroyer Droid prototypes. That gets me thinking that it's Jedi VS Seperatists.
The Geonosian is Sun Fac, and the Destroyer Droid is the SAGA one.
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Yeah, I'll add my vote to the "these must be the Target 2009 2-Pack Series" votes. They fit well with the Coleman we've already seen and it's nice to see so many new (ok, kitbashed) figures included instead of just straight repacks/repaints.
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Could either of those pony tailed dudes be Cin Drallig? I don't know I'm just asking but that 2nd one sure looks like him
(http://www.rabittooth.com/800x600StarWarsWallpapers2/CinDralligWallpaper800.jpg)
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I'm thinking the one ponytail/topknot Jedi is either of Cin Drallig or Joclad Danva (seen below)
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/2/23/Girljedi.jpg/800px-Girljedi.jpg)
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The proto has way more hair than what you have there which makes me lean more heavily to Cin Drallig
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This image shows Joclad Danva with more hair
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/3/34/Joclad_danva.jpg)
And if the theme of these figures is the Arena battle, the name would probably lean towards Danva. He's one of the arena battle participants. Cin Drallig is not.
As for the other Jedi? The only image I can find of a similar arena battle Jedi is this one, and he isn't given a name. At least not by Wookieepedia.
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/4/4a/Unknown_Jedi_male_green_saber.jpg)
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Kit Fisto
(http://i13.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/2a/2b/8305_1.JPG)
The more I look at that sculpt, the more I love it! I can't wait to see the final product, I hope the paintjob is as spot-on as the sculpt. :D
EDIT: Oh, and the younglings picture isn't showing up on my computer. ???
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The one prototype with sort of a see-through head looks like it could be a Cin Dralig? Not sure of course. I am kind of happy we are getting the younglings. I want the kid that actually talks to Anakin before getting eliminated. I am always a sucker for anything Kit Fisto related. I am actually happy for that one. Of course arena Jedi would be nice. I guess we find out for sure at Toy Fare?
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Fantastic set of prototypes and stuff... I agree, this is looking more and more like a Jedi army building type deal for the 2-pack theme next year. Will they come with Younglings as their pack-in? Or perhaps battledroids instead?
Good looking figures too... Lots of articulation, and humans are a damn cool thing to see instead of the normal alien variety.
The same seller has other things pictured (Jawa w/Droid, Obi-Wan, etc.) and all look fantastic. I see Medical Frigate Luke also uses the VOTC Luke body with new lower body... That's cool that he's gonna be super duper articulated and actually poseable.
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The figures look great. Too bad I don't know who most of them are. :P
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No thread for this yet that I saw...
So, basically all those (or at least many of those) prototype Jedi we saw earlier in the year are going to be part of a Geonosis Arena 2-pack dealie... The packaging is described as "cool", so that's interesting. Will it be useful? One can hope.
I'm digging that we get an SA Colman Trebor with Jango Fett, but I'm really hoping Jango's coloring is tweaked just a bit so he's different from the Evolutions Jango. I know I'm not the only one who was disappointed in the Evolutions figures deco... I also would dig if they maybe gave him a new helmet with a movable range finder. That'd be just nifty, but unlikely.
The other set pictured from Toy Fair was Kit Fisto and Geonosian Warrior... Kit looks different enough to warrant a buy, the cool force-push hand rocks, and the Geo Warrior is worth army building as Sun Fac was a damn fine figure despite only having ankle joints (I bought a ton to army build but I'll take more in a different deco for sure).
And it mentioned 6 sets in the series... We saw protos around the same time of Cin Drallig and a couple other Jedi, so one could guess they're maybe in this series. I wonder where those Youngling prototypes fit into the mix though?
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What no Fleet Trooper for Jesse?!?!?
Another set that the only way I am getting it is if there are new Jedi - Otherwise it is an easy set for me to pass on.
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Our Target spies have passed along a few new details about the upcoming Target Geonosis 2-Packs:
To refresh your memory, these two sets were confirmed by Hasbro at Toy Fair:
- Coleman Trebor & Jango Fett (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Bhst0QM2lBk/SZ-U3T9Ff2I/AAAAAAAACzg/KDtVoP3thUs/s1600-h/target_geonosis_01_coleman_jango.jpg)
- Kit Fisto & Geonosian Warrior (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Bhst0QM2lBk/SZ-U3SPgPTI/AAAAAAAACzo/C9kzcwxM56o/s1600-h/target_geonosis_02_kit_geonosian.jpg)
And the new rumor list for the last 4 sets...
- Yoda & Droideka
- Mace Windu & 'Droid' (Battle Droid?)
- Joclad Danva & 'Droid' (?)
- Roth Del Masona & 'Droid' (Super Battle Droid?)
you know the drill: rumors = unconfirmed until you hear from Hasbro officially, blah blah blah
The two "new" Jedi (Masona and Danva) definitely fit with the prototypes that we saw earlier in the thread. Our source wasn't 100% clear on the Droids, but it definitely sounded like we'd be seeing droids of some type or another with the remaining four rumored sets.
It makes me wonder if these sets are where Hasbro will debut that new Battle Droid they've been hinting at in the Q&As?
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I'm really excited at the possibliity of the droids at least... I also am really really excited to get new and somewhat more poseable versions of some Jedi, such as Colman Trebor. I'm curious how Windu will turn out since I liked the 30AC one, but he needed softgoods desperately (new head wouldn't hurt either, but I felt it was passable).
I'm actually quite excited to get these sets though, and if the droids turn out to be "superior" to anything we've got so far... Well I'll wet my pants I think. :-\
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It makes me wonder if these sets are where Hasbro will debut that new Battle Droid they've been hinting at in the Q&As?
I was actually thinking just that today. They've pretty much confirmed the new Battle Droid in recent Q&A sessions. It sounds like the fall basic figure lineup is more OT and EU oriented (barring the already revealed TPM wave). These 2-packs would be a good vehicle for a new Battle Droid.
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There's supposed to be a BD Commander from the Arena somewhere, too.
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I'm really excited about these sets. They certainly sound like they have the potential to give us some awesome new stuff. :)
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There's supposed to be a BD Commander from the Arena somewhere, too.
Good point Darb, OOM-9 was confirmed last year I believe (or even in 2007)
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I'm in for some new Jedis!
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Man this would be great for army builders...oh wait, Hasbro f'd it up and put in singular hero figures you don't need extras of...
I would have loved to have been able to buy a set that included any combination of Geonosian Warrior, Battle Droid, Super Battle Droid. Though I would have preferred specifically the Geo Warrior and BD over the Super BD.
Well, if anyone doesn't want their Geonosian warriors and Battle Droids (depending on the sculpt), let me know. I'm looking to build these up!
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Man this would be great for army builders...oh wait, Hasbro f'd it up and put in singular hero figures you don't need extras of...
Come on, Sal. You've got to figure that some of those droids will eventually find their way into the Basic Figure line, or at least into Saga Legends.
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Cool. Nice to get some more separatist troops, especially in these sets. I'm looking forward to them more than ever now.
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I've always enjoyed these two packs, and I'm looking forward to these as well. From the two we saw in the Toy Fair presentation, it looks as if they are including some pretty nice figures (and maybe some new/new-ish ones) so that makes them more worthwhile. I hope we see the new Battle Droid included in these, as it seems like we've gotten somewhat "ultimate" versions of both the SBD and Destroyer Droid that can be used as well.
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Man this would be great for army builders...oh wait, Hasbro f'd it up and put in singular hero figures you don't need extras of...
Come on, Sal. You've got to figure that some of those droids will eventually find their way into the Basic Figure line, or at least into Saga Legends.
True, however that means having to pay for them single carded... I'd rather pay $10-12 for 2 figures I want, if they came that way, then two single carded figs for $16+. If I have to buy those singly, I won't be army building them and Hasbro will have once again lost a few hundred on me.
See, if Hasbro made a red Battle Droid/Geonosian warrior set, I'd likely make an exception to my army building rule and get 40 sets. My rule for myself as of late has been no more than 5-6 of an army builder for new army building figs.
So there is a big swing in money for me and something I'd commit too again if done as a pack instead of single carded later for more money per unit.
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I love these kinds of sets because all of those leftover Jedi make great custom fodder. I am looking forward to getting new Red Battle Droids and love the new Kit Fisto. The ROTS one looked like Ronald McDonald to me. Time to send that one to the chop shop........
Maybe the Mace will have a soft goods skirt so he can actually sit and take advantage of the leg articulation. The TAC version was nice but has several flaws. A new head sculpt would be welcomed too. SDCC cannot get here soon enough!
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Maybe we'll see a new-ish Mace, since there really isn't an SA version of the AOTC Mace (actually different than ROTS).
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OK, Wal-Mart 2-packs aside... We've got a gallery of almost all the Target Geonosis Arena 2-packs for your viewing pleasure! :)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_TargetArena2packLoose1_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_TargetArena2packLoose11_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1247732291,98203,)
Clicky the Jedi heads to check out the story on our front page! :D
These are already shaping up to be some of my favorite 2-packs I think. There are 4 great new or new-ish Jedi, the battledroid has me giddy...
Right now it seems less likely we're going to get a better decoed Jango Fett though, unfortunately. Things could be different, but I'm not counting on it.
The battledroid looks quite slick though. No image of the Commander... yet. ;)
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Sweet :), We can finally finish the Arena circle. Jedi are awesome, the new battle droid is sweet, geonosian is great. Great idea for the these sets. I have some questions
curious in where is OOM-9 ? is just the new BD with yellow paint ?
No clones in these sets ? good move ?
I would have instead of Yoda, I would have put evolutions AOTC Padme with Nexu battle paint in these sets.
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Oom-9 just wasn't available... yet. If we get an image I'll slip him in there too, to update the story. :)
Basically Oom-9 (battledroid commander) is the same figure though, with a different backpack and the yellow markings as appropriate. Yakface posted some prototype images which I'd seen before myself, and so he's on the way just currently absent is all. The Droideka and SBD don't appear to be much different sculpts or decoes, but they came with the other photos so I decided to post them. I think there's a slight, slight chance that Jango Fett, and the Super Battledroid, are not the final figures for these two-packs, in terms of their decoration, but I am not sure on that. I'm pretty positive this is what we're getting though.
I would've liked some heavier battle wear on the SBD and DRoideka maybe...
I like getting Yoda for the Cloak, but he's the least interesting of the Jedi for sure. The cloak's nice though, for what it is.
I think that the sets are obviously highlighted by the newer items though. Kit Fisto, Colman Trebor (who isn't an easy figure to find, actually), the two human Jedi other than Mace... Mace is good custom fodder too, so I'm ok with him. The battledroid is pretty outstanding. I'm having a tough time telling if he's got some well hidden articulation at other points too, which is a possibility. :-X
The other droids are nice sculpts of their respective figures, so I can't gripe. I'd take more of that Droideka and SBD anyway. The red droid though, and his commander, are going to be hot commodities this year I think. I'm hoping Hasbro's wise enough to see to it that these make it to basic cards, hopefully in two-packs ala the last ones. They'd finally get money off me for battledroids. I didn't buy a single one of the Legends 2-packs that came out in 2007 though. I thought those were attrocious.
Anyway though, I think I see ball/socket shoulders, knees, elbow, and possibly ankle articulation on the battledroid, as the highlights... I'm really anxious to see one of these in person right now. I've waited for good battledroids for a while, gobbling up boomer damage droids when I find them as they're about as good as there is right now.
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Thanks Jesse, for the clear up.
The 2003 Coleman Trebor (which the new one is sweet), Still holds well today.
Maybe the next super update we will for the AOTC Jedi will be Barriss Offee. ;D
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Boy oh boy... I'm stoked about these sets! These may be my most anticipated items of the year. The battle droid looks awesome. Even the repaints/repacks (Mace, Yoda, SBD) don't dissappoint. The only figure that strikes me as a let down is Jango Fett, who seems even more purple than the multi-pack release. I'm planning for one of each set, plus army building all but the Jango/Coleman Trebor set. Anyone interested in extra Jedi, because I think I'm going to have a lot!
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These are looking great. Best part for me is that there's only one set that looks like I'd want to army build - the Battle Droid set.
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Very cool to finally see some finished paint jobs on the Jedi. I'll definitely be picking up all six sets. :)
there's only one set that looks like I'd want to army build - the Battle Droid set.
Hasbro said that the new BD sculpt there will definitely be carried forward - you can expect to see it again in many colors/deco in future box sets/cards/etc.
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My only complaint is they did not update Mace's skirt area to take advantage of the SA articulation, Roth is affected by this as well. Overall I am very excited about these sets & to finally get a good standard version of Kit Fisto that does not look like Ronald McDonald.
I will be buying a lot of these sets to troop build/customs!
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Awesome pics, and definitely an upgrade from most of the Order 66-2pks in term of quality.
However, I'm in the minority on these I'm sure as they just don't seem that exciting to me... probably because there's a lot more coming out this year already that I'd rather spend my dough on.
For one of the few times, I'll probably wait for something to go on clearance before I spend my money. The best news to me is probably that these WILL hit clearance since they're going to be carried at Target. But if I miss them, I probably won't mind.
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Sweet! Folding battle droids!
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The folding Battle Droid is definitely a nice touch! Liking all of the Jedi, although the skirt on Mace seems like more of the same. Well, my exacto knife can take care of that. It's also good to see a new cloak for Yoda, too. That's been overdue.
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Just so I know I'm clear... since these are "Geonosis Arena" sets, all of these characters / figures actually appeared in the film right? They didn't sneak any generic EU Jedi in there did they?
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Those are all Jedi from the movie. Joclad Danva gets some screen time while fighting, and you can see Roth-del Masona on one of the gunships.
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(http://www.starwars.jp/databank/character/image/roth_del_masona.jpg)
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Good deal. I already like these a lot better than the Order 66 stuff.
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all of these characters / figures actually appeared in the film right?
I don't know about this guy...
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_TargetArena2packLoose12_Full.jpg)
I definitely remember a blue-suited Mando named Jango Fett in AotC, but I can't seem to place this Purple Rain reject mando in the film. And don't even get me started on his jetpack coloring... ::)
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Hasbro is fully aware, they will rerelease him in blue so we buy this figure again. This one is BS! They should have just made him blue. Especially since they got the color right before the evo figure.
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That purple is just horrendous. Especially when you compare it to the blue on the helmet.
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We even asked about getting a proper deco one this year, in either the repack avenue, or in this 2-pack, and Hasbro I believe hinted around that it might happen in the Geo 2-packs...
Yet, this looks worse. :'(
I admit, this one's pretty bad, but at leas Colman Trebor's a massive step up from his previous figure.
Like JOT said, I think they're aware, and I think they'll sell us another Jango at some point all properly colored... The new ARC Troopers now have movable range finders on their helmets, so maybe they'll fix that detail too on Jango... Or sell us another figure even later on with that. ::)
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Look at the left arm he looks like he molded out of grape Bubble Yum or Gummi Bears:
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/301-Gummy-Bears-Grapeazoom.jpg)
What's with the Pimple deco on his nose, he needs to squeeze that thing. ;)
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Plum flavored gummy bears?
I was hoping that it was just the light that the picture was taken under, so I compared it to a photo of the Evo Fett, and the blue on the helmet is a very close match, the purple/plum is different, but not in a good way.
I think Hasbro is definitely milking this. Why else would be this one of the few figures where the color diverges so drastically from what we expect. And since it happens again and again, it isn't just an error at the factory, the problem is further upstream.
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We even asked about getting a proper deco one this year, in either the repack avenue, or in this 2-pack, and Hasbro I believe hinted around that it might happen in the Geo 2-packs...
In April they said they'd "try" to blue him up for this set, but they were fairly sure even then that it was going to be too far along to change it, so I guess we were warned. They did say back then (April I think) that a corrected blue one is coming in 2010 though...
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I'm more geeked on the battledroid than anything I think. The 4 "new" Jedi sculpts are all nice too, and have me fairly geeked for these sets, but overall I'm pleased with them. Jango's disappointing but he'll make good custom fodder. The only figures I'm really not pleased with are Mace and Yoda. Mace really would've benefited from softgoods on his skirt piece, and Yoda's just Yoda. I do like that cloak though, even if the hood is going to look like a dunce cap on him.
And thanks Jeff... At least we'll get a right colored one.
I just hope we get a good helmet with movable range finder. I've hated these molded-on range finders on all these helmeted figures for the past while. ARC Troopers, Jango, the Mandalore Warriors... They made a movable one on the friggin' 300th Boba Fett figure back in POTJ days. It's not a groundbreaking feature.
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Yikes! It looks like he's made of Laffy Taffy :P
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These sets are going to be a pretty easy pass for me. The figures look pretty good for the most part but I just can't get excited for them. I'll pick up some of the battledroid when it gets recarded later on and maybe I'll track down the Kit Fisto set, but I certainly won't be rushing out to pick these up.
As for the Purple People Eater... That sure is one bright shade of purple. Oddly enough if Hasbro is using the source material I think they are, it is accurate (at least to that source if not to the film.) I have an old Jango poster from just before AOTC came out where he was photographed wearing a jumpsuit that is clearly that shade of purple. I think it must have been a costume test shot or something. They must have decided that they didn't like the purple and went with the blue jump suit instead. I'll have to see if I can find an image of the purple suited wonder online somewhere.
If anything though, Jango is just one purple stripe on the helmet away from being an easy mando custom.
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So consider it "concept art" then? :)
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Something like this?
(http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/10083000/10083868.jpg)
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That's the one. :)
These images are probably all fake anyways. Jesse your gig is up. Stop trying to pass off your customs as Hasbro product.
:P
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**Looks left, looks right, runs and jumps out nearest window**
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Should've atleast included the rainbow colored umbrella Temu danced with on the AOTC DVD easter egg. (he did a little softshoe to Dancing in the Rain, IIRC).
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The fact the new droid folds up makes me wonder if Hasbro is at all considering a transport for the future Battledroid figures?
Not the most exciting toy, but it does interact with the Battledroids well since they now fold up quite perfectly.
An odd aside I was just pondering. I doubt it, and the transports weren't too heavily featured in the movies, nor do I recall them from the Clone Wars 3D line at all, but it'd be interesting if they figured out a way to do the Troop Transport.
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Blue or purple if it was intended to be an Episode II Jango I at least know what shelf to put him on. Then when the blue one turns up I'll put that there too. I'm a sucker.
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These are all really great sets, looks like the Yoda and the Jango are the only two suckers. I wish they'd put the Jango and Mace together so I could just skip both of those altogether! I want a couple of those Droidekas, Geonosians and Battle Droids. Feels great to finally get some SA Separatists to fight all the SA Clones!
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Looks like they finally made a Kit Fisto that fits in his Jedi Starfighter.
Now if they can just make an X-wing Porkins fits in...
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I think that's a ship redesign, not the figure.
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I found this quote from Adam Pawlus' "Figure of the Day" column (OOM-9 this day) funny, in light of everything:
This is the best "Commander" you can buy for your Battle Droids right now, but seeing as there's only two so far, there aren't a whole lot of options. This one's pretty cheap so you may as well get this one if you're going to get one. It's possible Hasbro may do a better version some day, but Battle Droid articulation started to go downhill as of 2002, so I wouldn't bet on it.
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I'm only going to get the 'new' figures from this group, but these are all excellent (except for Purple Fett). The Battle Droid is amazing, and it's great to finish off the Jedi.
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Woot! It's about time we get a SA battle droid. I still much prefer the EPI BD's over anything else that has been released thus far. Though this new sculpt looks to take the place of them. I'll be pre-ordering this set if I can, in high numbers.
Here's what I'm planning on buying from these sets if the breakdown is correct:
• 1X Yoda & Droidekka - Like Jesse, I'm really only getting this for the cloak The Droideka shown is the one I prefer of the ones released thus far, so I can easily absorb it into the collection.
• 2X Mace Windu & Battle Droid Commander - Again, like Jesse, Mace will make for good custom fodder and I want two red commander battle droids
• MANYX Kit Fisto & Geonosian Warrior - I've wanted to army build Geonosians for a long time but while the sculpt from the AOTC (Saga) era was great, the articulation was much less desireable. This sculpt I love. It will suck that I'll have that many extra Kit Fisto's though. If these sets sell for $10-12, then I'll be selling the Fisto's for cheap. I figure since a regular fig is $8, whatever the difference is form the two-pack is what I'll sell the Kit's for. So that could mean $2 or $4 for Kit.
• 2X Coleman Trebor & Jango Fett - Whew, glad we're getting a much needed upgrade on Trebor. I'll need the extra for my Jedi Council scene and I can always use an extra SA Jango somewhere.
• 1X Roth-Del Masona & Super Battle Droid - I've never been into the Super Battle Droids. If the lower legs were thicker or made of rigid plastic so they would stand up and not sag over time, then and only then would I consider building this up a little bit. Glad to have the Jedi.
• MANYX Joclad Danva & Battle Droid - As with Jesse, I plan on army building this set. I'll save a few of the Danva figs for customs, but like the extra Fisto's I'll have, Danva will be up for trade sale as well, using the same analogy as Fisto.
What I'd REALLY love to see is a Geonosis Seperatist Ultra Battle pack. Give me 3 SA Battle Droids, 2 Geonosians, 1 Super Battle Droid, 1 Droideka and 1 Battle Droid Commander and that would be an army builder's dream. Toss in 3-4 TALL stone columns for the arena and a nice cardboard diorama and this set would sell like hotcakes, IMO. That's 8 figures, mostly old molds. Sell this for $40-45. Fair price for mostly old molds.
I'm hoping for single carded Red Battle Droids and Geonosian Warriors though as I'd much rather buy those than have to spend the extra scratch on the 2-packs. But I'll get what I can of the 2-packs and deal with the extra Jedi as I get them.
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there's only one set that looks like I'd want to army build - the Battle Droid set.
Hasbro said that the new BD sculpt there will definitely be carried forward - you can expect to see it again in many colors/deco in future box sets/cards/etc.
I'm conflicted about this. While it's a nice upgrade, Hasbro can do better. All they did was add ball joints to the shoulders and hips.
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there's only one set that looks like I'd want to army build - the Battle Droid set.
Hasbro said that the new BD sculpt there will definitely be carried forward - you can expect to see it again in many colors/deco in future box sets/cards/etc.
I'm conflicted about this. While it's a nice upgrade, Hasbro can do better. All they did was add ball joints to the shoulders and hips.
In addition to the shoulders and hips they put joints in the ankle, as well as bringing together many features from many different figures. (articulated arms, knees, retracting head, etc.) I will say that the apparent lack of a two handed grip is a letdown. IG-88 proves that Hasbro can make droids with thin limbs SA. It's not a deal breaker, as I think the CW Battle Droid is fine, but it sure isn't great either.
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there's only one set that looks like I'd want to army build - the Battle Droid set.
Hasbro said that the new BD sculpt there will definitely be carried forward - you can expect to see it again in many colors/deco in future box sets/cards/etc.
I'm conflicted about this. While it's a nice upgrade, Hasbro can do better. All they did was add ball joints to the shoulders and hips.
In addition to the shoulders and hips they put joints in the ankle, as well as bringing together many features from many different figures. (articulated arms, knees, retracting head, etc.) I will say that the apparent lack of a two handed grip is a letdown. IG-88 proves that Hasbro can make droids with thin limbs SA. It's not a deal breaker, as I think the CW Battle Droid is fine, but it sure isn't great either.
My concern for these Battle Droids would be that it appears they're still using thinner plastic for the limbs which will lead to the eventual warping, especially at the knee/elbow joints. Regardless of extra articulation as it stands now, I don't see how these BD's are any better than the ones we've received in the last 7 years.
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My concern for these Battle Droids would be that it appears they're still using thinner plastic for the limbs which will lead to the eventual warping, especially at the knee/elbow joints. Regardless of extra articulation as it stands now, I don't see how these BD's are any better than the ones we've received in the last 7 years.
Exactly. My biggest concern is whether or not they'll stand on their own, and if they'll still stand a year from now when the plastic isn't brand new. If they're going to get all bent out of shape I'll just buy the one of each I always do. If they can make them rigid enough to stand up, I'll be up for at least a dozen.
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I'm hoping the plastic is strong enough. If it's anything like the current SBD or VTAC IG-88 we'll be golden.
The Clone Wars battle droid stands fine, but that figure doesn't have the leg joints. I'm not sure how it will turn out, but we shall see in due time.
One thing I am sure of is my happiness that the dumb "out-of-context" thread is locked... I know some people would've had a field day with all of this talk about stiffness and rigidness. :D
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Are those wrists articulated on the red battle droid?
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I don't believe the wrists are posable. Everything else appears to be though, and so long as it's "sturdy", I'm pretty content.
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I don't believe the wrists are posable. Everything else appears to be though, and so long as it's "sturdy", I'm pretty content.
Yeah, but between the wrists not being SA and not being able to put 2 hands on the blaster, this doesn't look all too promising really.
So this droid will be able to crouch and might be able to stand for extended periods of time, other than that, it kinda looks like they dropped the ball.
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~memcinto/jedi/femjedi%20pix/geonosis_small.gif)
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/e/e1/Jedigeonosis.jpg)
I do like most of the figures though. From the pictures I've found, it looks like Roth Del Masona and Joclad Danva complete the circle of survivors. There's some debate as to whether Danva actually survived until the point Dooku offered a chance to surrender. In one shot Danva is standing up as you can see above, and in the other he's lying dead on the ground behind Anakin. There weren't any shots fired inbetween the 2 scenes, but I guess we can conclude he was shot, survived long enough to be seen standing, then dropped from his injuries without being hit again.
At any rate, regardless of who you consider in the circle of survivors, it looks like we've got them all now, and that's awesome.
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Rookie question. Is the guy to the far right (top picture) Tarados Gon or is Tarado Gon the one next to Sease Tin?
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Rookie question. Is the guy to the far right (top picture) Tarados Gon or is Tarado Gon the one next to Sease Tin?
Tarados Gon is to the right of SaeSae, Sora Bulq is to the left of SaeSae.
In this pic:
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~memcinto/jedi/femjedi%20pix/geonosis_small.gif)
From left moving clockwise:
Anakin, Agen Kolar, Luminara Unduli, Stass Alie, Bultar Swan, Shaak Ti, Roth Del Masona, Sora Bulq, SaeSae Tiin, Tarados Gon, Kit Fisto, Obi-Wan, Mace, Padme.
Joclad Danva can be seen on the ground between Anakin and Agen Kolar.
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Awesome. Thanks a ton.
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He looks crouched, to me. Not lying down. If he were lying, you'd see parts of his body stick out between Anakin and Kolar.
As far as the battledroid, often times the wrists can be flexed to hoold a blaster... The Boomer Droid came to mind, personally. Also I've heated Boomer wrists to do a "Boil & freeze" so they're more able to hold a blaster properly. I'll probably do the same with this droid should he not hold a gun properly on its own. I'm not disappointed in the figure, yet. We'll see when it's out. So far though, as droids go, it's a major step above the 2-packs we had gotten, above the E1 droid which is very "static" despite good articulation count, and Hasbro's claims in the Q&A were that they were trying to make them more sturdy before releasing a new droid.
So I'm hopeful on this figure.
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He looks crouched, to me. Not lying down. If he were lying, you'd see parts of his body stick out between Anakin and Kolar.
Take a look next to Padme's right hip, you can clearly see Joclad Danva's left hand and arm lying flat on the ground, palm up. In addition to that you can see at least his left lower leg bent underneath him, which explains why you can't see it hanging out between Anakin and Agen like you thought you would. You can also see the tip of his right foot if you look closely midway up Anakin's left thigh.
Not your typical "resting" posture. More like a "I just took a blaster bolt to the chest" posture.
Who knows though. At one point he is alive in the circle of survivors, so that's good enough for me. I just don't think he made it aboard the gunships like most of the rest of them.
EDIT:
link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmPSHR708b8)
Check out 0:38/7:19. Joclad Danva is dead. :P
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But at 0:44 he's alive. He's just playing opposum or napping. ;)
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Yeah, I noticed the dead-alive-dead thing as well. Very weird.
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The Force is not so strong with him. He needs to reenergize during battles.
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there's only one set that looks like I'd want to army build - the Battle Droid set.
Hasbro said that the new BD sculpt there will definitely be carried forward - you can expect to see it again in many colors/deco in future box sets/cards/etc.
I'm conflicted about this. While it's a nice upgrade, Hasbro can do better. All they did was add ball joints to the shoulders and hips.
In addition to the shoulders and hips they put joints in the ankle, as well as bringing together many features from many different figures. (articulated arms, knees, retracting head, etc.) I will say that the apparent lack of a two handed grip is a letdown. IG-88 proves that Hasbro can make droids with thin limbs SA. It's not a deal breaker, as I think the CW Battle Droid is fine, but it sure isn't great either.
My concern for these Battle Droids would be that it appears they're still using thinner plastic for the limbs which will lead to the eventual warping, especially at the knee/elbow joints. Regardless of extra articulation as it stands now, I don't see how these BD's are any better than the ones we've received in the last 7 years.
http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc09/hasbro-sw/IMG_1732.JPG
If in Hasbro's own displays the Battle Droid is bent backwards due to warping, this pretty much shows that the plastic is going to suck. I'll be sticking with the Episode 1 Battle Droids.
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Actually his knees are bent, as are his right ankle/foot. It doesn't appear to be the plastic, but maybe more how they intentionally posed him. It could be he's just that sturdy, actually, to pose like he's getting his ass kicked by the Jedi. I'm hopeful on these figures right now. I liked the Boomer Droid well enough so I'm not disappointed.
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I don't know, the right leg looks warped to me from the knee joint up. A look at the slide presentation on SW.com also shows the BD to have a warped leg. Maybe it's just the prototypes they're using for the photography and display, hopefully the production item is a far better quality than it appears to me at this time. I want this to be a sturdy and quality Battle Droid, but we've been burned so many times in the last 7 years that the cynic in me doesn't see the hope that you do JJ.
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Does anyone with CW3D droids have a critical comparison? If they're good, I'd imagine these will be too.
Then again, they did the security droid right and haven't done it right since, so go figure.
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I have a bunch of the CW Battle Droids. All of them are in good shape. The Super Battle Droids are problematic, but that's not due to warping but rather the top heavy nature of the figure/design. In addition, you can get the CW Battle Droid to hold his gun two-handed. It's not great (i.e. not anywhere near movie accurate) but it doesn't look as though the figure is firing a giant pistol either.
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I really like these, and hope the foldable aspect of the Battle Droid's is a hint of things to come. I'm definitely getting the BD's and the new Jedi, but I may actually pass on a few of these. Until they go on clearance.
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We can't forget about these, can we? :)
Actually I like them substantially more than WM's Droid Factory 2 sets, which are ok, but pricey and less popular figure choices IMO. These Target sets, to me, are home runs all around.
But... The Battledroids are the real question.
Well, we have two new loose images of the Battledroid and Battledroid Commander.
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_TargetBDroidCommanderLoose_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_TargetBDroidCommanderLoose_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_TargetBDroidTrooperLoose_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_TargetBDroidTrooperLoose_Full.jpg)
I'm pretty excited... Barring these wilting easily, they should be good. They cannot cup the blaster with their left hand which is slightly disappointing, but with a little boil-&-freeze, they COULD be modified.
As a fan of the Boomer Droid, and Security Droid, these are (to me) fantastic updates. Far superior to the 2-pack droids from Legends '07. I'm HOPEFUL Hasbro will see fit to deliver us another 2-pack of them with the new sculpt, but I'm probably being very generous with my faith in Hasbro on that. Hey, I love the company, but I also know they're not likely to give us 2 SA Droids in a pack. They should though, IMO.
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Gotta love the bug eyes on the Commander and the no eyes on the trooper. I'm diggin the figures but not the paint apps. Hopefully these figures are corrected before release.
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They cannot cup the blaster with their left hand which is slightly disappointing, but with a little boil-&-freeze, they COULD be modified.
I dunno. These images make it look like the forearms could be articulated, especially the commander. They didn't look that way at Comic-Con though.
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I beg to differ Mr. Anton. The arms look pretty solid to me. If they had the forearm articulation they probably would have posed at least one droid at SDCC in that particular pose. It's a shame, as figures such as the Commando Droid, IG-88, and IG-86 have proven that Hasbro can do better articulation on Droids with tiny limbs. I don't mind the lack of forearm articulation, but right now the detailed paint apps (or lack thereof) are making me angry.
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After being ripped off from Walmart's 2packs, I can't find any reason to buy these too. It looks like all we get is jedi with a new head and yet another battledroid. At lease walmart gave me a DT.
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The commander's eyes look HUGE.
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After being ripped off from Walmart's 2packs, I can't find any reason to buy these too. It looks like all we get is jedi with a new head and yet another battledroid. At lease walmart gave me a DT.
I'm thinking the opposite. You can get 12 very well done SA figures, including some new characters/figures, for at least $25 less.
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Jeff mentioned these still showing up for about $5 less than WM's packs, per pack, so that right there is one reason I'd disagree with comparing these to the WM packs. The second reason is most of the sets include one army builder, at least. Mace/Jango is about the only set I'm not thrilled with.
Getting SA Colman Trebor, two "new" Human Jedi (which are lacking in the line overall), a neat "new" Kit Fisto with a better paintjob it seems, two new battledroids which (hopefully) should be superior sculpts/designs... I'm liking all that. Plus Yoda's cloak is a nice improvement for that figure, over his previous softgoods version.
I like the Darktrooper, don't get me wrong. One of my all-time favorite games. And if the WM sets had been $9 to $12, I'd love them a lot more. But they're all basically one droid I want packed with one figure I either don't want, or am not real interested in.
From a collection standpoint, the Target sets give me figures I actually want to keep almost completely... The WM sets are about 60% I want to keep, the other 40% are custom fodder at best. Plus they're $5 more per set or so.
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I beg to differ Mr. Anton.
Yeah, you and Jesse are right. The more I think about it and look at the pictures, yeah they're pretty solid. However, instead of boil and freeze the other arm to hold the gun, I'd probably just cut and glue.
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I find it strange how Hasbro would use the same 2007 TAC Mace Windu sculpt twice in the same line: Mace Windu, and Roth del-Masona. Almost like how the 500th Vader figure was used in the TSC twice. I'm also disappointed that Windu's/Masona's bottom tunic is still plastic, it really restricts leg movement. It would be nice if either it's a softer plastic so there's more movement, or if Hasbro had opted for soft goods.
And has anyone noticed that Jango's outfit is still purple? How many more times will it take for Hasbro to get it right? Maybe next release....
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Got the figures I wanted off my ebay dealer, don't get to exited over the new battle droid. The arms and legs are now ball jointed, and the head moves more freely than earlier versions, but it is still extremely flimsy, and is unable to hold the blaster with both hands. The POTJ security droid is still hands down the best version. At this point I wouldn't mind all future battle droids to be one piece PVC with no articulation, kind of like those little plastic army men. 2 per pack and were good. :-\
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... At this point I wouldn't mind all future battle droids to be one piece PVC with no articulation, kind of like those little plastic army men. 2 per pack and were good. :-\
Hasbro, please ignore the above comment. Clearly this person was under the influence of medication or other mind altering substances... ::)
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Got the figures I wanted off my ebay dealer, don't get to exited over the new battle droid. The arms and legs are now ball jointed, and the head moves more freely than earlier versions, but it is still extremely flimsy, and is unable to hold the blaster with both hands.
So basically, it's still not right. I don't know why they bother, do it right or don't do it at all.
I'll be taking 1 of each of the Joclad Danva, Coleman Trebor, Roth Del-Masona, and Kit Fisto packs, and I'll get to call it a day with these.
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I find it strange how Hasbro would use the same 2007 TAC Mace Windu sculpt twice in the same line: Mace Windu, and Roth del-Masona. Almost like how the 500th Vader figure was used in the TSC twice. I'm also disappointed that Windu's/Masona's bottom tunic is still plastic, it really restricts leg movement. It would be nice if either it's a softer plastic so there's more movement, or if Hasbro had opted for soft goods.
That was my biggest beef too. I was hoping they would have corrected Maces's lower half. All that articulation is wasted. I used an exacto knife and cut slits so he can sit in his starfighter. I like the lighter coloring of the robes. Overall these sets are 20 times better than the WM Droid Factory sets and cheaper.
The Kit Fisto alone is a huge improvement, he no longer looks like Ronald McDonald like the ROTS one.
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... At this point I wouldn't mind all future battle droids to be one piece PVC with no articulation, kind of like those little plastic army men. 2 per pack and were good. :-\
Hasbro, please ignore the above comment. Clearly this person was under the influence of medication or other mind altering substances... ::)
Nope, just realising that the plastic Hasbro uses is just to flimsy for this sculpt, and remember, this will probably be the go-to sculpt for a while. So I'd rather see Hasbro use either stiffer plastic that can handle the articulation, like they could in the earlier 90's, or not bother with articulation at all and give what I suggested above in preposed positions like the Clone Wars line 3 pqacks. But only when it comes to Battle Droids.
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Actually, the plastic they use IS PVC...
What I want to know is, do the CW3D Droids topple? If not, I'm assuming these won't either.
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Actually, the plastic they use IS PVC...
What I want to know is, do the CW3D Droids topple? If not, I'm assuming these won't either.
I think I posted this earlier, but my Clone Wars Droids do NOT topple over. The Super Battle Droid is prone to falling due to the top heavy design, but aside from that even the droids with leg articulation (Commando, IG-88) stand just fine.
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Actually, the plastic they use IS PVC...
What I want to know is, do the CW3D Droids topple? If not, I'm assuming these won't either.
If you're only worried about toppling then you'll probably love these.
I'm just miffed that it still can't hold the rifle with 2 hands.
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Actually, the plastic they use IS PVC...
What I want to know is, do the CW3D Droids topple? If not, I'm assuming these won't either.
If you're only worried about toppling then you'll probably love these.
I'm just miffed that it still can't hold the rifle with 2 hands.
The CW Battle Droids can hold the rocket launcher accessory with both hands (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TCW/07/lf12.html) though.
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I'm just miffed that it still can't hold the rifle with 2 hands.
For my animated Droids I put the blaster in the right hand. To achieve a two-handed look, I slide the thumb of the left hand through the trigger guard. Works for me and it looks like the pose in the cartoon series.
However, I'm disappointed in these new Battle Droids. These movie accurate versions seem to have thicker limbs so there is no excuse as to why Hasbro couldn't do some additional joints. Figures like IG-88 are perfect examples of figures with tiny limbs receiving full articulation.
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Have you guys been finding these yet? I'm just now getting back into the swing of things after the move and the two Targets near me haven't had any sign of them yet.
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No. I would say maybe next month, given the image leaks we posted about on the front page. Just my personal gut feeling on it. Perhaps October-ish though.
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I think they're slated for October.
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Cool thanks, now I just need to head over to the comic packs thread and find out which ones have shown up in the last 3 or 4 weeks while I've been out of the loop. :)
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I was shocked to discover that we actually got these at Zellers in Canada, 20$ a pop. I grabbed the Kit Fisto/Geonosian and Coleman Trebor/Jango Fett sets since I didn't have any of em. Cool figures, really like the Kit Fisto, much better than the ROTS version IMO. Now if we can just get some of the Wal-Mart exclusives I'll be a very happy person.
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Yikes though... That makes the WM 2-packs less of a rape by comparison.
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I came across these in Zellers today too - the Coleman Trebor looks to be a fantastic upgrade. $20 here as well.
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That is $20 in Canuckia though. Hopefully they will be cheaper here (at least by a little bit) for those of you than plan to pick these up. I wouldn't be surprised if these also came in around $17 though. And with Target there is always a better chance of clearances. The Wal-Marts around here NEVER seem to clearance anything.
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I wouldn't be surprised if these also came in around $17 though.
087-06-0634 - Star Wars Geonosis Arena 2-Packs ($12.99) *
Price was still showing $12.99 last time I punched the DPCI at my local store... ;)
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What can I say? I forget how to read sometimes. ::)
:P
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Looks like they're up at Amazon.com (http://hthttp://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Collection-Geonosis-Showdown/dp/B001QUZ224/wwwjedidefend-20) Well at least 1 of 6 is - word from GH. Too lazy to look for the others.
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Links to Amazon:
- Jango/Coleman (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Collection-Geonosis-Showdown/dp/B001QUZ224/wwwjedidefend-20)
- Joclad/BD (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Collection-Geonosis-Showdown/dp/B001QUX71M/wwwjedidefend-20)
- Yoda/Droideka (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Collection-Geonosis-Showdown/dp/B001QUVMO6/wwwjedidefend-20)
- Fisto/Geonosian (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Collection-Geonosis-Showdown/dp/B001QV15WY/wwwjedidefend-20)
- Roth-Del/SBD (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Collection-Geonosis-Showdown/dp/B001QUZ3EQ/wwwjedidefend-20)
- Mace/BD Commander (http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Collection-Geonosis-Showdown/dp/B001QUVNZO/wwwjedidefend-20)
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I just ordered all of them and multiples at that:
Geonosis Arena Showdown - Yoda and Droideka
Geonosis Arena Showdown - Mace Windu and Battle Droid Commander x2
Geonosis Arena Showdown - Joclad Danva and Battle Droid x8
Geonosis Arena Showdown - Jango Fett and Coleman Trebor
Geonosis Arena Showdown - Roth-Del Masona and Super Battle Droid
Geonosis Arena Showdown - Kit Fisto and Geonosian Warrior x4
This was a great find on GH's part. This has saved me so much time and aggravation for hunting. I want more Droids and Geonsian Warriors but I can wait and find them casually.
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I ordered the 4 Jedi that are "new". I'm not pissing around with these as much as I did last time, as getting the last sets brought out was a massive pain in the ass.
I'll wait on Yoda and Mace, but I'm glad to get the 4 "new" Jedi in one swoop quickly.
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What can I say? I forget how to read sometimes. ::)
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What did they teach you at CSU?
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And with Target there is always a better chance of clearances. The Wal-Marts around here NEVER seem to clearance anything.
Neither here, some still have TAC's at original price or bit low but nothing to be amazed. hope in yrs we can find those at TJ Maxx or any other store for $5.99 :)
at least the up coming Jedi comic packs will be less painful to buy.
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Shipping and sales tax end up basically being a wash... I think I'll just wait until they show up in stores.
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I got my 4 that I ordered in today. Some brief thoughts...
-Battledroid... It is NOT bad, and I can get him to hold his blaster with two hands in what I consider an "acceptable" pose. I think (hope) Hasbro may update his left arm so it cups the forward bit of the rifle, but otherwise I'm actually fairly content with this figure.
Is it perfect? No. It's rubbery, but it feels more sturdy for sure than the ROTS/Saga sculpt that we were basically deluged with since 2002. It's not much more/less sturdy than the Episode 1 sculpt, and the poseable ankles go a LONG way to having him stay up. The ball/socket hips and shoulders rock, knees and elbows are nice. The ankles make up his relative sturdiness though. I would say he's as good as the POTJ Security Droid. If you liked that droid, you will like this one. Mine lacks eyes, as do the early samples we posted, so that's just life I guess.
-Super Battledroid... I think his deco is a bit different than the carded figures he's based on. He is the new sa sculpt of htis figure, but has the "holes" so he's the 30th AC figure, not the newer Legends one. I'm fine with that, this is a fine army builder IMO.
-Jango... He's more purple than ever. His skin tone the same as well, so I can't say he's a good figure, other than he's a fine sculpt (just needs a new helmet, and better deco). No surprises here, sadly.
-Geonosian Warrior... Very cool update of the Sun Fac figure. He's very generic, nice paintjob, and the added knee joints are the real icing on the cake of an otherwise solid figure. He's a true super poseable Geonosian grunt. Gotta love it. Remove the wings, and he's a wingless grunt... Good stuff.
-Coleman Trebor... Pretty well outstanding all around. He seems either 90% new, or 100%, as the skirt may be re-used. The rest looks new to me though, and he's really well done. The headsculpt and hands rock. His previous figure has a more "force push" type hand, some may prefer that, but to me this is just a great figure and everything I wish the original was. His "skirt" will feel incomplete as there is no softgoods so the sides are kind of open, but it's a slight issue I am willing to overlook completely.
-Kit Fister (heh)... He's a nice update, though the figure is mostly the ROTS sculpt. That means the slightly limited knee articulation is still there, and that's a disappointment. His hand(s?) and head are new, and both give him a very "force face-off" look. I dig it, as I dug the ROTS figure. The paintjob seems decent on mine but I've not been disappointed with the past Fisto figure's paintjobs so I'm less picky than some are on that issue. He looks good to me.
-Joclad Danva... He's a nice, super articulated human Jedi Knight, fairly generic... Can I gripe at all about that? Mine has a fantastic paintjob. Looks almost hand-painted. If I were to guess, he's using EU NJO Luke Jedi's sculpt... Or am I wrong on that? It's a shorter sculpt, I don't think it's totally new, but it could be. It's nice whatever it is. Joclad Danva's a short guy though I guess.
-Roth Del Masona... Again, he's a nice super articulated human Jedi Knight, who is fairly generic. He's got a pretty nice paintjob again, and the articulation is there, but unfortunately the skirt of the Mace Windu Sculpt restricts his leg movement unless you're daring and are willing to slice it on the sides with a little customization.
They all seem to sport the same lightsaber sculpt, and only Masona's is blue. That's a little weird then, and I'm sure inaccurate, should that matter to you. For the price, and not having to desperately search for them with the fear they could wind up being tough to track down (you never know), I'm pretty pleased. The Target sets were knock-outs last year I thought, and I feel this year's are better.
I don't think many will consider this battledroid "definitive", but I think it's not bad either. It's miles superior to the last battledroids we got, and very comparable to the POTJ battledroids (better than the Boomer Droid though, by a lot).
Pictures to come, I think, if I can get a nice little set-up to take some nice decent photos of these guys.
Nix that, I'm no photographer with my little Cyber Shot here. :)
Basically, the Battledroid is the big "?" in this wave, and to me it's good. It's not great, but it's good. I would army build it, actually.
It has flaws, but it's far more sturdy than the Saga(2002/2003), ROTS sculpt... It's more articulated than those 2-pack droids we've gotten, and the Episode 1 droid. It's sturdier than the Boomer Damage droid, which isn't bad. It's on-par with the Security Battledroid... even maybe a hair better due to the additional points of articulation.
The hips can loosen up, as can the knees. Mine sort of has a point where it "catches" and stands pretty well. I can get a couple cool poses out of it too so far (kneeling, standing shooting, and so forth). The missing eyes is weird, and actually is probably my bigger gripe with this. I do think Hasbro can improve on this figure and I do think they can deliver better, more sturdy plastic with it too. I think we may see that at some point.
Oh, and here's a weird thing... The gun is new.
Not better, bigger/smaller, or anything really, but it's a new sculpt... And ironically it lacks the "tab" needed to connect to the slot on the backpack. Very odd, and makes no sense to me.
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-Joclad Danva... He's a nice, super articulated human Jedi Knight, fairly generic... Can I gripe at all about that? Mine has a fantastic paintjob. Looks almost hand-painted. If I were to guess, he's using EU NJO Luke Jedi's sculpt... Or am I wrong on that? It's a shorter sculpt, I don't think it's totally new, but it could be. It's nice whatever it is. Joclad Danva's a short guy though I guess.
Kyle Rowling who portrayed Joclad Danva is actually 6' 2". I noticed that Hasbro screwed the pooch on that one immediately after viewing the photos at Amazon.
Nice reviews though Jesse. I am annoyed about the battle droid regardless though, it doesn't make sense to me to decide to retool a battle droid, go like 85% of the way to SA, and stop there with a critical thing like the left arm etc.
Personally, I'm still waiting for the real deal when it comes to the battle droid, this one isn't going to cut it for me. Almost but no cigar.
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For repaints with some new parts these are really nice and worth picking up.
- The Jedi have some great head sculpts and upgrades.
- Even Mace Windu's lighter EP2 robes look good, I just wish they gave him a soft good lower half to be posed better.
- The Geonosian repaint is a really nice. I now have truly no regrets getting rid of my Saga Geos.
- Yoda is better than I thought he would be, definitely the most definitive prequel Yoda.
- Kit Fisto got a nice overhaul and is the best yet!
- The Kit bashed Jedi Coleman is superb, Jonclad is nice, not the best body to reuse but not bad either. Roth looks good.
- Jango is ok in his grape colored outfit
- The SBD and Destroyer are standard but great army builders and they use the best sculpt available.
- The biggest disappointment is the regular Battle Droid, he has no eyes!!! I bought 8 sets of that one and none have eyes. The Commanders eyes are kind a big but at least he has them. I can tell their were factory issues. I will have to paint them on myself. The plastic is soft enough to get him to hold the weapon with two hands and I personally think the articulation is great and the folding action is cool plus the head stays on much better than ever before.
At $13 a pop its a comic pack without the comic but they are far superior to the overpriced WM DF sets.
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At $13 a pop its a comic pack without the comic but they are far superior to the overpriced WM DF sets.
That's like saying a 757 is better than a hang glider. :)
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About the battledroid, DR,
I can't see much of away to do articulated wrists, honestly. And I'm usuallyt he first to say anything is possible. What I think they could do is sculpt the left one so it naturally cups a blaster, but it would be permanently posed that way (ala the Saga/ROTS sculpt).
That wouldn't bother me ultimately, but this one can be made hold a rifle with two hands... sort of. I got mine to work out ok.
It's not perfect though, so I won't say it is. 85% is probably a good score... That other 15% is doable with stiffer plastic, painted eyes, and maybe that left hand resculpt... The way they're designed though, it's really perplexing how they could do any level of a sturdy arm sculpt that included articulation for the wrists to pivot. That would be tough.
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I'm probably in the minority but after receiveing the Trebor fig, I like the original better minus the articulation of course. The color apps seem better as does the size which looks more consistent to the film. You cant beat the price on these 2-packs compared to Walmart which surprisingly sold out at the 4 stores near me.
Can someone give some feedback on the Yoda pack? Is it just a repack? Color change? Soft Goods? I did not even look at one when I picked up the other sets.
Like others said the joints on the BD's come loose on both the arms and legs on mine. I wish Hasbro could have gone back to the stiff plastic used on the EP1 Droids and use the sculpt on these current figs, but add the ability to grasp the weapon with both hands.
Did either of these generic Jedi's have any screen time?
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The two Jedi are the last two surviving Jedi from the Arena that were yet to be made:
(http://www.u.arizona.edu/~memcinto/jedi/femjedi%20pix/geonosis_small.gif)
Thanks to DR for the detective work
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The Yoda, as far as I know, only sports a new softgoods robe, which has a hood on it (as it should). Otherwise I'm not aware of any difference in the actual figure.
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Yeah, I finally saw the Yoda. He looks to be sporting the Soft Goods that comes with the new Animated Clone Wars Yoda.
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Yeah, I finally saw the Yoda. He looks to be sporting the Soft Goods that comes with the new Animated Clone Wars Yoda.
It is (at least I think). The figure itself is from the 2007 TAC Yoda with Kybuck set. I originally thought it was the 2005 ROTS figure (the one with the cannon), but with a new head.
And Kit Fisto isn't smiling ... wassup with that??
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For repaints with some new parts these are really nice and worth picking up.
At $13 a pop its a comic pack without the comic but they are far superior to the overpriced WM DF sets.
Just picked these up yesterday and I have to agree with you. I only planned on buying the two new Jedi, but the rest were more appealing than I expected.
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Just thought I'd throw this out there. These sets are on a 10/11 planogram, BUT most of the time these aren't necessarily due until the Tuesday of that week and may even be later. So if you are at Target at 8am on Sunday and they aren't there don't be shocked. Leaked plano dates on the internet are not the same as advertised street dates.
Just a friendly reminder from my days working there.
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One of my Targets already has these laying all over the shelf.
I'm kind of disappointed overall though. Jango looks purple. The battle droid has no eyes and the commander has huge eyes. Joclad Danva is an inch too short.
Kit and Coleman look nice, I guess Roth Del Masona is okay but the likeness is off.
I just think these could have been better.
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I got these off Amazon about 3.5 weeks ago, I really like them overall. My major complaints were the BD eye screw ups, not sure how they botched that one. All the Jedi are really nice and worth adding to your collection in my opinion. Is Jonclad a little short, sure but the head sculpt is nice. Roth is nice, the headsculpt looks good enough for a guy who had a few seconds of screen time (in the back ground). Yoda is a great TAC repaint that has become the definitive prequel Yoda figure.
What's nice about these sets if you are on the fence is you really can cherry pick without feeling like you are missing out on a BAD figure and they are $4 less a set. I think Hasbro stepped these up from Order 66. I think these will do well and will make a wish list for the follow up:
- Screaming Bald Chic vs SA Droid NOW with eyeball detail!!!
- Barris Offee Coffee vs Geonosian with Spear
- Shaak Ti (New arms, legs and head) with Clone Trooper
- Aayla Secure (New arms and head) with Clone Trooper (Yellow)
- Anakin (Evo version with a New Head) and Padme Arena Damage
- Obi -Wan (Repack) vs Clone Trooper (Red)
Too many females so that will never happen, maybe two of them would make it but realistically anymore I would shocked.
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I really like these sets, I think they are far better than the WM DF packs, both in price, and figure selection. I'm really happy to have the upgraded Jedi and the previously unmade Jedi survivors as well. If Hasbro does another round next year, it would be great to get all female Jedi upgrades and/or new characters. I agree that we need Barriss Offee, Aayla Secura, and Shaak Ti - all upgraded - along with that screaming Jedi chick, whatever her name is, lol. I also wouldnt mind a battle damaged Padme - but the Jedi retool that would work great and be a huge hit is Pablo Jill. If they can give him the treatment they gave to Coleman Trebor, it will be another successful exclusive.
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The shouting Jedi chick from the arena battle indeed has a name, so I thought I'd update:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sarrissa_Jeng
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The shouting Jedi chick from the arena battle indeed has a name, so I thought I'd update:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sarrissa_Jeng
She dies :( Another fallen Jedi. But she would make a good figure for a sequel to this line of exclusives....
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I'd like to see Pablo Jill get a major update... I'd probably buy Mace again if he came with a "burnt" robe and softgoods skirt piece. I'd take that freakish shouting chick for sure. One of the Nikto we got (with the static poses) would be nice to see upgraded. Barris Offee update... There's good choices left. Shaak Ti could use some nicer arm articulation too, for sure.
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Hope Hasbro gets around to doing a super-super-articulated Aayla Secura to match that upcoming TCW version. She'd be great with maybe an alternate Geonosian Warrior? Hmmm....
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Just found these sets. Is the destroyer droid / yoda set just repacka with a cloth robe? I'd love to only buy 5 out of the 6 sets.
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Scored these using the DCPI today. They pack out at 1 full set per case.
Just found these sets. Is the destroyer droid / yoda set just repacka with a cloth robe? I'd love to only buy 5 out of the 6 sets.
The Yoda is actually a repaint of the Kybuck Yoda with a new softgoods robe. This new robe includes the hood, which is indicative of the prequels. All of the previous sg Yoda robes have had no hood, and that one was originally released with the VOTC Yoda.
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For some reason, I don't like the Yoda ... he was cooler with the Kybuck in the TAC, but without his alien horse pal, he just seems awkward....at least to me.... :o
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I opened all these guys up the other night. I dunno. One new figure per package makes the sets lack luster, especially with the new price. I do like the battle droids though. All they have to do is improve the arms, paint the eyes and use a better plastic and these will be perfect.
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I FINALLY saw these at Target yesterday after a lot of searching, but the only two sets that weren't there are really the only two I want, the Kit Fisto set and the Coleman Trebor set. I guess I'll just keep looking....
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I don't think the Coleman Trebor set is out yet.
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I don't think the Coleman Trebor set is out yet.
Why not? I saw these sets for the first time (surprised how small the packaging is!), and I couldn't find the Coleman set.
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It's out. I have it and have seen it now a few times.
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I don't think the Coleman Trebor set is out yet.
Why not? I saw these sets for the first time (surprised how small the packaging is!), and I couldn't find the Coleman set.
They are all out as they all ship in the same case.
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Yeah, I picked up the entire set over 2 weeks ago. I went to 6 Targets yesterday looking for the Ugnaught and Slave Leia (waste of time) and saw the Geo sets at most of them.
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I thought there were only six sets and Trebor was not part of this one. Oh well...I haven't seen it yet then.
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There were a few around here Matt. I can pick one up for you if you were needing it.
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Nah....I'll find it eventually. I'm more interested in the three comic packs I can't find.
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After looking at the Joclad Danva figure and comparing him with this image....
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/fb/SD-HS.jpg)
...he may make good custom fodder for a Sifo-Dyas figure.
And it's another good excuse to get another Battle Droid, too. ;D
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These are non-existant here. Most stores either haven't put them out, or they sold out immediately.
I'm thinking of ordering the last ones I need online and just saying screw it to waiting on these to get put out or waiting for any hope of a clearance. I saw 2 on shelves at one Target, and that's it.
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The only ones I ever see are Mace and the BD around here.
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The only two I saw, ironically, were the two with the new Jedi.
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The Target by me got two more cases of these today so hopefully for those you still need them they will be in your store soon in masse.
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I would love to nab these on clearance. I'm sure they'll be full price through the holidays though. :-\
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I would love to nab these on clearance. I'm sure they'll be full price through the holidays though. :-\
I can lend you some money if you're too poor to buy these at full price.
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Oh no.
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I can lend you some money if you're too poor to buy these at full price.
That would be great! Please do send any extra cash you have my way. Thanks!
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I've seen a lot of these crushed. Too many cases stacked low on the pallet.
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I don't know if it is just here locally, but these seem to be sitting quite a bit. I got the ones I wanted online, which doesn't help things at retail I guess, but otherwise I don't know that I've seen many move around here. Things may pick up during holiday shopping, or maybe people are just waiting for the clearances that seem to hit these things every year (I know I'll probably grab some more if/when that happens).
A small part of me wonders if - aside from CW Animated stuff - kids/collectors are getting a little burned out on prequel stuff. It seems like from a lot of comments, many "collectors" look forward to the OT stuff more...and I think for the most part kids only care about the CW stuff at this point. Not that we don't like getting new waves of prequel stuff as well, but it seems like many of us are (aside from new Palps/Padmes) burnt out on ROTS, and aside from some redos/podracers/Padmes, TPM seems to be covered well too. Anyways, just surprised to see these sitting a bit, as there doesn't seem to be near the numbers this time around as we saw with the Order 66 sets (but maybe that is still coming).
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Yeah in town they were starting to hit harder, and I'm out of town at he moment and today a Target I was able to sneak out to had a good 15-ish. I think they may have just put a case out though. They do still seem to be selling fairly well.
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Got the Coleman/Jango set! They're GREAT! :D
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I still haven't picked these up - just no interest I guess, but I might cave if I ever catch them on clearance.
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Anyone army building the Geonosian Warriors and have an extra Kit Fisto they want to sell me? :)
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David, I'll sell ya mine.
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Anyone army building the Geonosian Warriors and have an extra Kit Fisto they want to sell me? :)
I do. You can have it for $4 plus $1 shipping.
-Sal
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Sal, I think you're a little late... :P
Just received Kit Fisto from the Target 2-packs. Thanks again Jesse! 8)
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D'oh, I didn't see that. Sorry, I've been a little out of the loop since moving. Still don't have net access at home, so I'm without for the weekends.
Well, if anyone else needs this Kit Fisto, I have 3 or 4 of them. Same deal $4 each with $1 shipping. If you want multiples then combined shipping of course.
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Even at $10 I couldn't pull the trigger on the Mace and Yoda sets :-\
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I couldn't believe how much that little price difference made these fly off the shelves at my local Target.
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A reminder that sale on the Geonosis Sets lasts until tomorrow if anyone was looking to do any price adjusting or hoping to get them for the discounted price.
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A reminder that sale on the Geonosis Set lasts until tomorrow if anyone was looking to do any price adjusting or hoping to get them for the discounted price.
Thanks for the head's up on the sale date. I went out this morning with the intent on buying these up, but I'm still just not feeling these. Great deal though for the kiddos! Saw a few moms buying these up yesterday.
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I'm gonna head over to Target to take advantage of that sale ;D - still need Fisto/Geonosian, Yoda/Droideka, and Joclad Danva/Battle Droid... I'm actually considering whether or not I should get the Joclad set. I'm not very impressed with that quick Jedi Luke body repaint. :P
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I'm gonna head over to Target to take advantage of that sale ;D - still need Fisto/Geonosian, Yoda/Droideka, and Joclad Danva/Battle Droid... I'm actually considering whether or not I should get the Joclad set. I'm not very impressed with that quick Jedi Luke body repaint. :P
If you'd like I have an extra Joclad. I'd be happy to part with it for $4 plus exact shipping. (Should be around $1.50 for shipping)
Come to think of it, I also have 3 Kit Fistos from these sets if anyone is interested. Same deal $4 each, exact shipping.
PM me if interested.
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Bought 12 @ $9.99 and returned them with my full-price receipts.
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Scored Fisto/Geonosian. ;D
All that's left at stores mostly are the Danva, Masona, and Windu sets (in other words, the shelf warmers). The Coleman Trebor set was probably the only one that really sells well. I frequently see the Kit Fisto set, but not as frequently as the above-mentioned ones. ::)
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Wow, most of the stores I've been stopping by still have a complete set or two. I haven't noticed any of them selling better than the rest - seems like they're all sitting. Also noticed that the WM DF sets have made a come back, but still at the $17 full price. ::)
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I bought most of the Danva sets I found (for the Battle Droid) and the Fisto sets for the Geonosians.
I'd have loved to have seen a set with both a BD and Geo in them so I wouldn't be stuck with so many Danvas and Fistos.
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Wow, most of the stores I've been stopping by still have a complete set or two. I haven't noticed any of them selling better than the rest - seems like they're all sitting.
I notice the same. Makes you wonder why these didn't make it to clearance with everything else.
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Wow, most of the stores I've been stopping by still have a complete set or two. I haven't noticed any of them selling better than the rest - seems like they're all sitting.
I notice the same. Makes you wonder why these didn't make it to clearance with everything else.
In the voice of Yoda: "Oh they willl. They willllll!"
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I'd have loved to have seen a set with both a BD and Geo in them so I wouldn't be stuck with so many Danvas and Fistos.
Sal, PM sent on those, I may be able to help you with you problem.
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I'd have loved to have seen a set with both a BD and Geo in them so I wouldn't be stuck with so many Danvas and Fistos.
Sal, PM sent on those, I may be able to help you with you problem.
Reply sent back and thanks. I think you'll like the offer.
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I hit a Target store over lunch and I can confirm the reports that started popping up on the 'net last night - the Geonosis Arena 2-Packs are now ringing up at $6.99 each.
There is no clearance sticker or sale sign to indicate the price cut, but they definitely scan at the $6.99 price. If you were waiting for "clearance", this is just as good. ;)
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I might finally cave on these. I wonder what's up with Target not tagging these right, but I'm not complaining.
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I might finally cave on these. I wonder what's up with Target not tagging these right, but I'm not complaining.
That's weird if it's at more than one store. Target is so anal about things being marked correctly when they take a price cut. They are supposed to have a price cut balloon and a label that states new and old price.
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Target is so anal about things being marked correctly when they take a price cut.
In addition to the Arena sets, there are a number of GI Joe DPCIs that are scanning cheaper than the pegs read... I guess Target's just getting lazy. :P