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Community => Watto's Junk Yard => Topic started by: Jim on November 10, 2005, 10:26 AM
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Can you say lame. www.comingsoon.net is reporting that the Sarah Connor Chronicles is coming to TV. Sure the CGI could work for TV but the storyline is just getting to complicated and ruining a great story. Also a 2nd Trilogy is in the works.
After reading this im sure someone is already thinking of an Aliens and or Predator TV series as well.
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All those franchises have potential... But unless they're focusing on specific groups and stuff, I cna't see it working. Connor's not important enough I don't think and a series seems dumb around her, but a series set in the robot wars around resistance fighters could work.
Same for Aliens/Predator... A series around Colonial Marines or something maybe has potential, but not one around Ripley or something. I dunno.
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First Look at The Sarah Connor Chronicles Series Trailer and Premiere Episode Clips! (http://www.movieweb.com/tv/news/18/19918.php)
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I just happened to catch the pilot episode late last night on TV Links (http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/5801). I must say I was very impressed with this & will have to watch this series. Clicky link above if it has not been pulled to have a gander. ;)
Oh, Lena Headey is hot!
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Well, it looks to have high production values and will certainly be interestig, but how many times are they going to tell the same story?
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how many times are they going to tell the same story?
As many as they can before it stops being profitable.
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I'm ready to check it out. I have very low expectations though.
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Watched the pilot and it got my interest. I will check it out if only because Summer Glau is in it.
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I don't know about the cute, Terminator girl? We'll see how it goes. I heard her deliver one line "Come with me if you want to live." I kind of laughed out loud at that. It reminded me of the wooden acting in the Star Wars prequels. I just don't know? I'll check it out of course.
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I don't expect it to last very long, being a sci-fi show on Fox of all networks.
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The show looks pretty ugly, but I'll give it a chance.
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I just finished reading T2:Infiltrator and T2: Rising Storm by S.M. Stirling; these 2 books seem to be what the series is loosely based on. In the books, though, the young female is not helping the Connors (and isn't as cybernetic as the one in the show). I'll definitely catch the series.
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I'm only interested as it will show with Prison Break as a buffer between when 24 makes its return, so I'm sure it will be a good filler for a week or two if not longer depending on how far the writers got with scripting. Remember that Drive show on Fox? That bombed after 2 weeks and it was pulled as a filler. This Terminator show looks pretty lame as well so we'll see.
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I was really hoping for a future-wars series against the terminators like we always got glimpses of in the films. That's keeping my interest a little lower on this series. I am however amped to see that show where people are hooked to lie detectors and asked if they'd cheat on their wives. That looks fantastic.
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I'm kinda confused by the timeline of the show... I assume it takes place when Sarah Connor is pregnant and the woman is the Terminator sent back in time to protect her? Who's that dude then?
I agree with Jesse, I'd rather see a series based on a squad of soldiers set during the war. Make it kind of like Band of Brothers, but in the future... and with machines as the enemy. Nevertheless, I'll try and check it out.
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Takes place after T2:
Prompted by the return of the Terminators into their lives, Sarah and John decide to stop running and focus on stopping the birth of Skynet. They are aided by Cameron, a Terminator who poses as a student at John's school and whose mission is to protect John. Meanwhile, FBI Agent James Ellison pursues Sarah and John with the belief that Sarah is deranged.[21][22]
An advanced script review by TV Squad revealed that time travel will play a major role in the series premiere including a temporal leap for the main characters from 1998 to 2006.[23] (The pilot episode as broadcast takes place in 1999 with a jump to 2007.)
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Looks low budget..Shouldve also have gotten some of Arnold stunt doubles or guys that work at Universal's T2-3D show.
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I'm kinda confused by the timeline of the show... I assume it takes place when Sarah Connor is pregnant and the woman is the Terminator sent back in time to protect her? Who's that dude then?
I agree with Jesse, I'd rather see a series based on a squad of soldiers set during the war. Make it kind of like Band of Brothers, but in the future... and with machines as the enemy. Nevertheless, I'll try and check it out.
I believe that is supposed to be the plot line of a future Terminator movie if they actually go that route. I've heard rumors of doing three more Terminator movies to take place after T3.
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I believe that is supposed to be the plot line of a future Terminator movie if they actually go that route. I've heard rumors of doing three more Terminator movies to take place after T3.
Yeah, they are definitely pitching a new trilogy, supposedly wth Christian Bale as John Connor (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40744)...
Not that excited about the show, but a "robot war" based T4 could be good stuff for a summer blockbuster.
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Cheesey line from a commercial last night, but I had to laugh. Sarah is taking John and the Terminator to school. As they are getting into the car, John says I call shotgun, and the Terminator says I call 9mm.
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I want Arnie to make a cameo.
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I was really hoping for a future-wars series against the terminators like we always got glimpses of in the films. That's keeping my interest a little lower on this series. I am however amped to see that show where people are hooked to lie detectors and asked if they'd cheat on their wives. That looks fantastic.
You may stil get your wish. Others probably know more about this, but T4 is in the works and that story is supposed to take place in the future, post skynet's attack. :o
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I'd rather see a high-budget war movie than a low budget war show. Band of Brothers was great, but it didn't have robots & blasters.
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Anyone know what time/channel this is on tonight?
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**2-NIGHT SERIES PREMIERE, PART 1**
“TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES”
Visit the TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES web site (http://www.fox.com/terminator/)
IT’S TIME TO TAKE BACK THE FUTURE ON AN ALL-NEW TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES SUNDAY, JANUARY 13, ON FOX
In the series premiere, Sarah Connor struggles to keep her son John Connor safe from an enemy Terminator from the future. She uproots their lives and takes him to live in a small town in New Mexico where he befriends Cameron who ultimately becomes his protector. Meanwhile, FBI Agent James Ellison continues his hunt for Sarah Connor in the “Pilot” episode of TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES airing Sunday, Jan. 13 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (SCC-101) (TV-14) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 [VIEWER’S NOTE: THE SIMPSONS and KING OF THE HILL are preempted this night.]
**2-NIGHT SERIES PREMIERE, PART 2 / TIMEPERIOD PREMIERE**
“TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES”
Visit the TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES web site (http://www.fox.com/terminator/)
SARAH, JOHN AND CAMERON STRUGGLE TO “KNOW THYSELF” ON AN ALL-NEW “TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES” MONDAY, JANUARY 14 ON FOX - AIRING IN ITS REGULAR TIMEPERIOD
Sarah makes contact with an old friend to ask a favor, while John decides to pay a visit to Sarah’s ex and Cameron makes a new friend. Together they infiltrate a resistance safe house and discover they are not alone. Meanwhile, Agent Ellison realizes that Sarah is still alive and a dangerous person from Sarah’s past is reawakened in the “Gnothi Seauton” episode of TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES airing Monday, Jan. 14 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (SCC-102) (TV-14; L, V ) CC-HDTV 720p-Dolby Digital 5.1 PA: Viewer discretion is advised.
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Caught this tonight. Not too bad... I'll give the second half a watch tomorrow and see if this becomes a regular view for me. I'm not convinced just yet that she pulls of the Terminator role, but I'll see how tomorrow goes.
Anyone else watch tonight?
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I wanted to see it, but missed it. The joy of an 8-year old. I'll see it in syndication.
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I just happened to catch the pilot episode late last night on TV Links (http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/5801). I must say I was very impressed with this & will have to watch this series. Clicky link above if it has not been pulled to have a gander. ;)
Oh, Lena Headey is hot!
I'm watching it right now but it's the same as I watched on TV Links back in July but sadly that site is no longer. :'( Can be found on the net tho. ;)
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I was okay with it. I'll definitely be tuning in Monday night for part 2. I'm going to watch it on a week-to-week basis though. If it goes south I'll just stop.
So far, though, it had plenty of action and the plot wasn't terrible. The acting is good, I recognized almost everyone in the show, and that always helps. IMDB is listing it at 12 episodes and as long as Fox lets it play out it might be worth watching.
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The first hour was okay, but this just seems like another filler until 24 gets back on its feet. I really don't care for the actress they chose to play Sarah, but I dig the young female terminator for obvious reasons. I'll leave now without spoiling anything except for the following:
Teachernator + leg + knife + gun = awesome ;D
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The first hour was okay, but this just seems like another filler until 24 gets back on its feet. I really don't care for the actress they chose to play Sarah, but I dig the young female terminator for obvious reasons. I'll leave now without spoiling anything except for the following:
Teachernator + leg + knife + gun = awesome ;D
I thought it was a really good pilot episode. Definitely tuning in to see more tomorrow. It still has suck potential, but I like all the main characters. Can't believe you don't like Lena, Mike - I think she was great as a new SC. I'm a little less fond of the teenaginator at this point, just because a teenage female terminator seems a little outside of what I would have envisioned for Skynet's attack plan. That being said, I think they gave us a big clue that something is different about her based on her comments at the gas station. Maybe she's not a skynet creation?
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I enjoyed it- and I guess the whole bank vault thing made sense. I thought the time displacement device was destroyed the first time, but I guess not. Maybe they can explain that all Terminators and protectors were sent at the same time, to different time periods before the machine was destroyed. After all, Skynet could theoretically send back a Terminator to every second of Sarah's or John's existence, or even to kill Sarah's parents. It just gets out of control that way; they need to limit how many times the displacement device can be used. Also, I don't mind different actors for different T-800s; in fact, in the first movie, Reese's flashback to the Terminator attack inside the Resistance's base had a different actor (we don't see him TOO well, but he's Arnold's real bodybuilder friend Franco Columbu). If every single T-800 looked like Arnold, they'd always be able to spot him immediately. Better that Arnold T-800 is a sub-model of many different T-800 models.
Sidenote: I want to recommend the 2 novels by S. M. Stirling called T2:Infiltrator and T2:Rising Storm. They are a sort of "Sarah Connor Chronicles" in themselves, and feature a female bad Terminator called an Infiltrator.
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Not sure if I liked the show or not. I guess it was okay, but I doubt I'll tune in unless there is nothing else on. I might DVR the show, but I'm not going to go out of my way to watch.
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I enjoyed it- and I guess the whole bank vault thing made sense. I thought the time displacement device was destroyed the first time, but I guess not. Maybe they can explain that all Terminators and protectors were sent at the same time, to different time periods before the machine was destroyed. After all, Skynet could theoretically send back a Terminator to every second of Sarah's or John's existence, or even to kill Sarah's parents. It just gets out of control that way; they need to limit how many times the displacement device can be used. Also, I don't mind different actors for different T-800s; in fact, in the first movie, Reese's flashback to the Terminator attack inside the Resistance's base had a different actor (we don't see him TOO well, but he's Arnold's real bodybuilder friend Franco Columbu). If every single T-800 looked like Arnold, they'd always be able to spot him immediately. Better that Arnold T-800 is a sub-model of many different T-800 models.
Sidenote: I want to recommend the 2 novels by S. M. Stirling called T2:Infiltrator and T2:Rising Storm. They are a sort of "Sarah Connor Chronicles" in themselves, and feature a female bad Terminator called an Infiltrator.
Couple of thoughts here:
1.) I seem to recall Reese saying in T1 that only he and Arnold were able to get through before the device was destroyed. If Skynet had unlimited terminators to send, why not just send 100 terminators back to the same timeline? That doesn't mean there wasn't a second device though. We don't have a clear picture of what happened with the future battle, but I don't think its far fetched for Skynet to have created a second device or to have rebuilt it using its original plans. There has to be some other device out there in order for T2 and T3 to have happened. I'm not sure how they would wipe out Skynet anyway - seems like the tech would be there for its "essence" to move wirelessly to back up machines if it was faced with destruction.
2.) I'm perfectly fine with multiple 800 series models as well. If you just made one and they all looked the same, the resistance would be able to spot them as easily as a robot version. But if you had 10-20-100 different versions, you could keep doing the same trick over and over.
Its interesting to note that Skynet can't completely wipe out humanity at any time prior to its own creation or it would end up erasing itself from existence. What I don't get so far is the mention last night that Engineers were sent back in time to build a new device. If they can do that, why not send terminators back in time and have them focus on building skynet instead of hunting JC?
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I watched it out of curiosity but really had low expectations of it....and it really didn't wow me at all.
I thought the time travel bit at the end was lame and completely unnecessary, although I am a bit intrigued that there's a resistance movement sent back in time to stop this seemingly endless supply of terminators sent back to try and kill John Connor. I'll watch tonight's episode mainly because I'm taping Prison Break and cannot remember which one is coming on first.
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I'll watch tonight's episode mainly because I'm taping Prison Break and cannot remember which one is coming on first.
Prison Break 8pm/7pm central (only 5 episodes left of the season)
Terminator 9pm/8pm central
;)
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Thanks iFett, I think the five episode run has to do with the writer's strike, so hopefully we'll see the actual end of the season soon.
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I'm really liking this show the more I think about it. Let's see what they can do tonight...
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I'm really liking this show the more I think about it. Let's see what they can do tonight...
Flat Flat Flat....I didn't care for tonight's episode whatsoever...but it's a filler between now and 24 so we'll see what happens. Prison Break totally overshadowed this show. They should have aired the shows in reverse order IMO.
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Flat Flat Flat....I didn't care for tonight's episode whatsoever...but it's a filler between now and 24 so we'll see what happens. Prison Break totally overshadowed this show. They should have aired the shows in reverse order IMO.
I agree that tonight's show was flat as they were trying to introduce enough of the story to set things up for future episodes. However, the preview for the next episode had a lot of scenes that make me want to tune in next week...
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I won't rain on anyone's parade with my thoughts...
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I caught part of last night's ep... might have to catch it on the Fox site.
One thing I don't understand about Summer Glau's terminator was that she was the perky talkative teenager with flowing movements, but once her Terminator side kicked in she's all the sudden the jerky, robotic, not so talkative. I know she was sent undercover to protect John at school, but why should she radically change her personality now that she's a robot. Anyone else notice this?
Another thing that I hope they don't keep doing is being on the run, having to assume new identities every episode. It seems like they've had to do that the first couple episodes. Otherwise, the typical episode is going to be... new town where no one knows them, new identities, Terminator and or FBI find them, fight off adversary, flee town to new one, repeat sequence.
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One thing I don't understand about Summer Glau's terminator was that she was the perky talkative teenager with flowing movements, but once her Terminator side kicked in she's all the sudden the jerky, robotic, not so talkative. I know she was sent undercover to protect John at school, but why should she radically change her personality now that she's a robot. Anyone else notice this?
Yep, noticed that myself. In last night's episode, she seemed to be trying to learn how to be more human, with impersonating the girl's stance and brushing John's shoulder as she walked off. Also, did you notice when the T-800 scanned her during the fall from the resistance's hideout, it read, "unknown cyborg"? There are little hints too in her responses that she's not a typical Terminator...
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Maybe she's John Connor's future daughter from a liason with a Terminatrix and sent her back. ;) J/k.
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After watching last night's episode I no longer feel the need to waste an hour of my week on this ****fest of a show.
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Sorry....double post.
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After watching last night's episode I have decided no longer feel the need to waste an hour watching this crapfest of a show.
After reading your multiple posts I have decided no longer feel the need to waste time rereading multiple posts from you. ;)
I thought the show was okay - I'll keep watching for now.
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I liked it.
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I caught it last night & it peeks my interest. Heck, it got 18.3 million viewers on Sunday night. Monday's audience dropped more than 44 percent tho, normal.
As for the Chickinator, a nice nod to naming her Cameron. Also that unknown cyborg scan, should be interesting to find out what she really is. Do they know there's a T-800 in the Governor's chair in California? :-X ;D
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A couple things bothered me about last night show.
When the Terminator blew up in 1999, how did parts (head and rest of the body) end up coming through to 2007? I saw the head come through but the body too???
And since when can the body move and operate independently of the head, let alone track down said missing head?
Funniest part - Sarah dumping Cameron out the window onto the car. ;D
Best part - Cameronator in a mini-skirt ;)
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A couple things bothered me about last night show.
When the Terminator blew up in 1999, how did parts (head and rest of the body) end up coming through to 2007? I saw the head come through but the body too???
And since when can the body move and operate independently of the head, let alone track down said missing head?
Funniest part - Sarah dumping Cameron out the window onto the car. ;D
Best part - Cameronator in a mini-skirt ;)
I had a few problems with this as well. Near as I can tell, only biological matter can time travel, or at least things surrounded by biological matter (which is an odd premise in the first place). Since they were in the process of shooting the terminator in 99, he wasn't quite blown up by the time they time traveled. The termy got caught in the wave, but because he had metal exposed (and was being shot by odd laser I guess) he blew up.
As for the head controlling the body - that doesn't seem so odd or out of the realm of possibility. If the head is a hub, a wireless connection from the head to limbs makes a lot of sense for battle - machines could keep coming even if wounded or blown apart. Saves skynet from having to make a new termy,
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Hmmm, biological matter can time travel. Arnie had organic skin & traveled thru time, possibility that the head still had a few layers of flesh that were still burning off as it went through the time thingy?
Interesting:
TERMINATOR MODEL: I-950 (http://sarahconnor.wetpaint.com/page/I950)
Design mods from previous models: Totally biological, instead of being developed in a factory an I model is made from a newborn baby that is psycologically augmented via a neural net processor uplink to Skynet in order to strip it of it's emotions. Then an aging accelerant is used to cause the infant to matue in a short span.
Capabilites: Inability to be detected by dogs, fully biological make-up.
The dogs went ape**** on the Chickinator tho.
TERMINATOR MODEL: T-888 (Cromartie) (http://sarahconnor.wetpaint.com/page/Sarah+Connor+Chronicles+Terminators)
Meh, it's just a TV show. :P
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There are a number of inconsistent pieces... But I am trying to remain open-minded and enjoy it for what it is...
And it works... Turn up the sound and enjoy ...
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If only you guys knew the guy who wrote the first two episodes and is running the show. He's one of us. That said, the first two shows weren't bad, but not great. They definitely fall into TV formula which is an inevitable side effect of anything on network TV. Like all shows, it could have found it's legs and make something of itself, but the strike won't really let that happen. Do have to say that it's doing it's job in building mythology well enough to hold my interest.
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Anyone watch the 3rd episode? I just finished watching it, only thing I liked was seeing the Terminator get ready for his skin bath. The look on that poor scientist's face. ;D
Best line: She has a medal plate in her head, a big one... :D
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Anyone watch the 3rd episode? I just finished watching it, only thing I liked was seeing the Terminator get ready for his skin bath. The look on that poor scientist's face. ;D
Best line: She has a medal plate in her head, a big one... :D
I have it taped, but haven't watched it yet. I was pretty happy with the first two, so hoping they can keep up a fast pace and strong storyline.
Just one more week until we get Lost back! Hooray! Anyone know how many episodes they were able to finish before the writer's strike?
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Anyone know how many episodes they were able to finish before the writer's strike?
I believe that they completed eight episodes.
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I can confirm 8.
I'm actually not even looking forward to this show anymore. Honestly, I just want them to tell me what the freakin' island is about and be done with it. Getting a short season after waiting so long doesn't get me hyped up for it, it's actually a pain thinking that it'll just be getting up and going and then it's over for some indefinite period of time.
I like to get paid for working too, but this WGA strike is really just pissing me off at this point. There are at least 3 shows on that I love that have built-in ending plans (Lost, Smallville, BSG) that are all ****** up now because of this strike. If any of those three get canned before wrapping things up I'm driving to LA with a baseball bat to get some swings in at the picket lines.
Edit >> On topic, I'm digging the new Terminator series. There's a potential for it to get really goofy really fast, but so far I think it has a good balance. The Terminator finding his head was a little out there but other than that I've been fine with where they're headed.
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Personally, I'm liking the new Terminator series immensly... it's different from any other shows on TV right now and with no 24 so far this year, this is holding me over.
As for the Terminator traveling through time, my understanding was the body itself was buried for several years in the debris from the bank, and therefor did not travel through time...
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I'm hearing that this show got the ol' midseason axe from Fox. Anyone want to confirm?
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I read differently. Here (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i0e7d8449d58e7ec155e38327b9792059)
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I would think the show would be back. It did pretty solidly in the ratings for a Fox show.
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I read differently. Here (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i0e7d8449d58e7ec155e38327b9792059)
I thought the ratings were pretty strong from Entertainment Weekly. I think it will be back.
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Personally I could never get into this show. It just doesn't feel right for some reason. Maybe its the writting? I don't know.
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Personally I could never get into this show. It just doesn't feel right for some reason. Maybe its the writting? I don't know.
Same here. I tried watching several of the episodes, but I always wound up just doing other things. Nothing ever really grabbed my attention.
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I like it. It took a bit to get going but once it did it's awesome.
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How exactly does this show fit in the "timeline" a the movies. Is it totally obliterating the 3rd movie? If I remember correctly J Connor was really suprised to have seen Arnie/any other Terminator thinking that they'd done the job in the 2nd movie.
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Personally I would rather forget about the third movie. That movie had the worst possible ending for the series.
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Personally I would rather forget about the third movie. That movie had the worst possible ending for the series.
I think I'm with you on that one. I think it would be possible to use the show as somewhat of a timeline correcting device to lead into the next film and from the couple articles I read, Fox giving the show another season, might be it's goal.
On the other hand, the new film could completely ignore what's going on with the TV series and just move forward, building on what's been shown in the films. After all, it's not like the show "Smallville" had much of an impact on what was done to re-launch the big screen Superman franchise.
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I only watched the first episode of the Terminator series. I wasn't impressed and decided there were other things I could do with my time.
As for the movie T3, am I the only person who actually liked that movie? I thought the ending was decent and although some of the acting was a little odd, I liked the direction the movie went. Just my .02 on it though.
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There was an episode that mentioned the group jumped ahead in time to pass over the year Sarah dies from cancer, which was what happened prior to T3. So I'd say they didn't ignore it, but rather retconned the future by skipping her natural death.
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Did anyone catch the last episode of the season? I loved it!
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There was an episode that mentioned the group jumped ahead in time to pass over the year Sarah dies from cancer, which was what happened prior to T3. So I'd say they didn't ignore it, but rather retconned the future by skipping her natural death.
Gottcha, but eventually the cancer will catch up with her unless a Term gets her first, that is of course unless time travel is the miracle cure for cancer, wouldn't that be a b!$&*^
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Second season is coming (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3icfe13ead83e2831b75bae45ceb5ff4df)
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Second season is coming (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3icfe13ead83e2831b75bae45ceb5ff4df)
Interesting. Why did Fox pull it from it's line-up if it was such a success ???
"Connor," which launched in January, is the highest-rated new scripted series this season among adults 18-49 with an average of a 4.4 rating/10 share. The Warner Bros. TV-produced series drew an average of 10.5 million total viewers.
"Connor" had been considered a shoo-in for a renewal
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Interesting. Why did Fox pull it from it's line-up if it was such a success ???
I think they only had 9 episodes and with the strike they couldn't do more for this season. It's not the only series that had that problem.
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I'll be back ;D
www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-buket30-2008may30,0,4034376.story
Check the bottom of the story.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0851851/news#ni0242674
Garbage frontwoman Shirley Manson has reportedly landed a role in U.S. TV series Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
The Scottish singer has been given a regular role in the sci-fi show and will join the original line-up for the second season, which is due to air in America this autumn, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
The casting is Manson's first acting break and she will reportedly complete her stint on the show while the rock band are on hiatus pending work on a possible fifth studio album.
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Hadn't heard that this was officially back next fall. Yeah!
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CCI - Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17516)
FOX has announced that a marathon of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles in August is scheduled to prepare fans for the two-hour second season premiere on September 8.
Season 1 episodes will be shown on an almost daily basis at 9PM on August 10, 11, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, and 24. Then, just about two weeks later is the premiere!
Sarah Connor Chronicles season 2 promo 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i9865Mj_vM&feature=related)
Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 Promo 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfRWukGfc-s&feature=related)
Sarah Connor Chronicles season 2 promo 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Af465UovHc&feature=related)
Sarah Connor Chronicles season 2 promo 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCB56IBXm5Q&feature=related)
(http://www.terminatorsite.com/season2.jpg)
Super, time to catch up of the reruns & that season ender! 8)
Should hold me till Terminator Salvation comes out. ;D
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Sweet ! Great show !
Got my BluRay on order !
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Can't wait. Looks freaking awesome.
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Yep, I'm pretty happy this show is coming back. It was one of the high points for an otherwise ****** TV season last year.
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Maybe they will fix the problems with the show. I guess I should give it another try since there isn't anything else on.
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Just a reminder that The Sarah Connor Chronicles season premiere is on September 8th.
Looking forward to this show coming back. 8)
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Cool, I'm looking forward to it! :)
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Im looking forward to it as well. Last season was awesome!
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I watched a marathon of the first season last weekend to get ready. Really looking forward to this show.
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First season was better than I expected and eagerly awaiting Monday night. I just hope it doesn't hit the Sophomore slump that most good shows seem to run into (Lost, Heroes, etc.). :-\
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First season was better than I expected and eagerly awaiting Monday night.
So are you recording this or just avoid watching your Packers on Monday Night Football?
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First season was better than I expected and eagerly awaiting Monday night.
So are you recording this or just avoid watching your Packers on Monday Night Football?
Honestly who gives a crap about Monday Night Football any more? There is a reason it got moved to ESPN, because rating for this show SUCK no matter who's team is playing, because there hasn't been an exhilerating game on there in years.
DVR set to record, can't wait for the fall out of last season's finale.
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Just finished watching the series on Blu-Ray and man am I psyched ...
So much more watching it again ... Hope they keep it up !
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I just watched it, pretty good thus far. Sure hate to use the work washroom tho. ;D
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Decent season opener. Can't help but feel that the only reason I'm watching it though is because I'm a terminator fan.
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Decent season opener. Can't help but feel that the only reason I'm watching it though is because I'm a terminator fan.
Umm ... would that not be reason enough?
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That was a pretty good season opener IMO. I thought that the finale of the first season where they showed the FBI raid from the perspective of the pool, played over with Johnny Cash, was brilliant, one of the best pieces of TV I've seen in a while.
Starting this season with a similar style showing the home invasion was another good one. Although after watching I can't quite figure one thing out, and this may be spoilerish so be warned
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End spoilers. Really looking forward to what goes on this season. Some of the previews of upcoming episodes looked really good.
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Gotta love the teaser posters. 8)
(http://www.terminatorchronicles.com/stills/2008/09/summer-glau-tscc-poster.jpg)
(http://www.terminatorchronicles.com/stills/2008/09/tscc-t1000-poster.jpg)
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Loved that ending! Didn't see it coming at all. That was the lead singer of Garbage, was it not?
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Shirley Manson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1276549/), yup.
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One of the coolest episodes I've seen from this show. Definitely a good starter to the season.
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Being a big Terminator fan - I was excited when this show first came out last year, but I just could never get into it for some reason. Hoping to give it another go sometime on DVD before the next movie comes out.
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I watched it and it was pretty cool. Here's my only problem. SPOILER WARNING!!!!
The part at the end where the toilet turned into the T-1000 was unexpected and very very weird. It's cool to see the T-1000 model in the show because it makes the Terminator movies fan in me think of T2 (the best movie in the series by far) but to me she just seemed way too smart and human to be a terminator. So we'll see if that works out, but I just thought that was a little out there. Did anyone else?
END SPOILERS. I liked this episode a lot and I'm looking forward to the rest of the season.
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First season was better than I expected and eagerly awaiting Monday night.
So are you recording this or just avoid watching your Packers on Monday Night Football?
Crap. Forgot all about this in the excitement of watching my Packers beat the tar out of the Viqueens. I'll have to catch it online somewhere...
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A little bit of a slower episode last night. Spoiler Warning!
Cameron seems to be a bit out of wack & who is this Riley that fancies John? A LEGOnator!
The ending with the blood on the wall...
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Yeah, I was wondering that too. What happened to Cheri? Are they going to just ignore that entire high school storyline with the suicide and the graffiti?
I'm wondering if any of the season 1 stuff fell victim to the writer strike and for season 2 they've decided to go in a slightly different direction on the school angle?
I didn't actually care for last night's episode, however. The tone of it just felt off from last week and, by the looks of the scenes, next week.
But Cameron is definitely messed up. Somethings off with her at this point and it might be interesting to see where they go with that part of the story.
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I hope they don't go with her wanting to kill John. That'd be too obvious.
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I hope they don't go with her wanting to kill John. That'd be too obvious.
did that in first episode...
As for why she is off...
1. Damage cause by the explosion
2. Modifications that John did to the chip could be causing it
3. Do we even know which chip she has in her head? After all the one Terminator that they melted with Thermite she kept the chip.
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2 - John didn't have time to modify the chip. He pulled it and there was only a short period of time between that and when they were going to melt her down. Besides, he barely was able to read a chip in the first season, no info that he has the capability yet to reprogram one.
3 - She has her chip. I'm pretty sure they melted down the other chip (Vick's) in the first season after Derek discovered Cameron hadn't yet disposed of it. That's the chip they read to get info about the traffic cam network. But I don't think they kept it.
I'm going with 1...she's off due to the explosion and the reset she did after he reinstalled her chip.
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2 - John didn't have time to modify the chip. He pulled it and there was only a short period of time between that and when they were going to melt her down. Besides, he barely was able to read a chip in the first season, no info that he has the capability yet to reprogram one.
3 - She has her chip. I'm pretty sure they melted down the other chip (Vick's) in the first season after Derek discovered Cameron hadn't yet disposed of it. That's the chip they read to get info about the traffic cam network. But I don't think they kept it.
I'm going with 1...she's off due to the explosion and the reset she did after he reinstalled her chip.
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He says that he can fix it, and after they pull the chip from her head you see John filing it and doing stuff with it right before he put it back in her haed. So he did do something to it. Because up to the point they pull it from her she is trying to kill him and then goes into the I LOVE YOU rant after being crushed between the 2 trucks.
I would say that the explosion messed her up, being smashed between 2 trucks hasn't helped matters, and finally John monkeying with the chip hasn't been a big help either.
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Well that was a different episode, Chromartie & the mousetrap was cool. ;D
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But Cameron is definitely messed up. Somethings off with her at this point and it might be interesting to see where they go with that part of the story.
Like tonights episode?
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But Cameron is definitely messed up. Somethings off with her at this point and it might be interesting to see where they go with that part of the story.
Like tonights episode?
I thought it was a great episode. I especially liked the back story of Alyson Young. Especially since she is just about to be born.
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Last night's episode was really great! I thought sure that their neighbor would give birth to Allison. ;D
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I wonder about the singer from Garbage's little girl. It would be kind of wild if she were a mini T-1000.
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I wonder about the singer from Garbage's little girl. It would be kind of wild if she were a mini T-1000.
Ha! I will call her Mini-Compactor! :D
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It was good to see where the Cameron thing went. It had me scared for a moment.
Not sure I am digging the whole T1000 aspect at all though.
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Just a point of reference here, Catherine Weaver aka Shirley Manson (Garbage) is a T-1001, not a T1000. Call her what you want but I'm not taking a piss in that whizzer! :o ;D
TERMINATOR MODEL: T-1001 ('Catherine Weaver') (http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Sarah+Connor+Chronicles%3A+The+Terminators)
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Terminator series close to cancellation. (http://www.syfyportal.com/news425418.html)
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Monday night is a tough crowd, move it to Wednesday against Knight Rider & see who wins. ;)
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Terminator series close to cancellation. (http://www.syfyportal.com/news425418.html)
******* Dancing with the stars !!!!!!!!! >:(
Just move it and see !!!!!!
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Terminator series close to cancellation. (http://www.syfyportal.com/news425418.html)
It is a Fall TV show competing against Monday night football. Fox is crazy to think that they would win that ratings fight.
Terminator series close to cancellation. (http://www.syfyportal.com/news425418.html)
******* Dancing with the stars !!!!!!!!! >:(
Just move it and see !!!!!!
It would be tough, but I think Connor would win. Personally I DVR both shows to watch later.
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Loved this week's episode as well. How cool was it for the machines to be using an old aircraft carrier as a base?
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Loved this week's episode as well. How cool was it for the machines to be using an old aircraft carrier as a base?
Or the Grandfather complex. If Cameron hadn't loss her memory, gone to the 1/2 way house, and then made the call to what is suppose to be her home. Her template would never have been named Allison.
I can't wait to find out who or what Weaver's daughter is. A smaller liquid Terminator would be great. They could call it T-500.5, since that is half of what Weaver's series is (T-1001)
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Last nights episode was good again, so much for that triple-8 & gotta love the hottie bar skank. ;D
I can't wait to find out who or what Weaver's daughter is. A smaller liquid Terminator would be great.
Found this link posted on a Terminator forum, a really interesting deleted scene.
Warning, could be a Spoiler!
Why Was This Freaky Scene Cut From Tonight's Sarah Connor? (http://io9.com/5059286/why-was-this-freaky-scene-cut-from-tonights-sarah-connor)
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Last nights episode was good again, so much for that triple-8 & gotta love the hottie bar skank. ;D
I can't wait to find out who or what Weaver's daughter is. A smaller liquid Terminator would be great.
Found this link posted on a Terminator forum, a really interesting deleted scene.
Warning, could be a Spoiler!
Why Was This Freaky Scene Cut From Tonight's Sarah Connor? (http://io9.com/5059286/why-was-this-freaky-scene-cut-from-tonights-sarah-connor)
That may or may not answer some questions. Presents a whole lot more questions too.
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Well it could be that this machine took over the life of this woman, and maybe the child is human being raised by it now...
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Well it could be that this machine took over the life of this woman, and maybe the child is human being raised by it now...
I was thinking something along those lines as well. It'll be very interesting to see how that all plays out. :)
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its seems like this Weaver Terminator has her own agenda that dose not even involve John. I know they said that each T has their own agendas and not all after John. I wounder if in the future a war starts between the more adavanced T-models and the outdated vresions?
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Fox Orders More Sarah Connor Scripts (http://www.sfuniverse.com/2008/10/15/fox-orders-more-sarah-connor-scripts/)
Good be good, could be bad, they are only scripts but a step forward I guess. Then again, FOX ordered four scripts of Knight Rider which I'm watching right now because nothing else is on & it's ******* boring. Tho can't be anymore boring than the debate! ::) :P
Knight Rider... phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht! Die Mike Die!
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I watched the Knight Rider movie and it was okay, cheesy, but fine for what it was. Then I watched the season opener and it sucked...totally different than the movie and not even fun. Hot chicks in it but that's about it.
Ordering more scripts for a FOX show is a good sign though. Usually they give a show about 2 weeks to pull 20 million viewers and if they don't get it, gone. Not really, but FOX has the least patience of any network.
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Very good news for the show... 8)
FOX gives 'Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles' full-season order (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/smallscreen/news/article_1438138.php/FOX_gives_Terminator_Sarah_Connor_Chronicles_full-season_order)
Armageddon just got bitch-slapped! (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/10/this-just-in-sa.html)
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Very good news for the show... 8)
FOX gives 'Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles' full-season order (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/smallscreen/news/article_1438138.php/FOX_gives_Terminator_Sarah_Connor_Chronicles_full-season_order)
Armageddon just got bitch-slapped! (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/10/this-just-in-sa.html)
Great news and a good episode last night.
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Just watched last nights episode & that was an episode & a half. If they can keep up the way that episode ran then it's a hit. I was just glued to the set, so much in so little air time & the bitch fight was great. ;D
Found this link posted on a Terminator forum, a really interesting deleted scene.
Warning, could be a Spoiler!
Why Was This Freaky Scene Cut From Tonight's Sarah Connor? (http://io9.com/5059286/why-was-this-freaky-scene-cut-from-tonights-sarah-connor)
Well so much for that being deleted! ::)
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Last night's episode was awesome. I used to tape the show to watch Football and watch later in the week, but I can't even wait for that now. :-X
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Finally watched Monday's episode last night. The chick fight was hillarious, especially when the little kid is looking at the 2 of them.
Few questions that the show leaves you with...
What is the AWOL girl from the future up to?
What reason does Skynet have for going after the doc? Is it because of his involvment with the Conors, or his involvment with Skynet?
What was up with John when the gun discharged?
Why is a math book so sad?
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Monday's episode was made of awesome. 8)
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The ? is will Weaver's become protective of the daughter and wil realize that by SN becoming operational will mean the child will most likey die? Will she become a hero?
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The ? is will Weaver's become protective of the daughter and wil realize that by SN becoming operational will mean the child will most likey die? Will she become a hero?
I don't think that's the way it will play out, but you never know. I think she's just using the kid to better understand what drives humanity. If anything, its going to enable skynet to build better infiltrator termies.
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Finally after some time off the air, a new episode. Well that one left a few questions? I still have not figured out Riley. Cromartie letting Ellison live to lead him to John... dunno. Weaver, I have no idea what she was up to. Letting the 4th guy live in the bowling alley, yeah big mistake.
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Finally after some time off the air, a new episode. Well that one left a few questions? I still have not figured out Riley. Cromartie letting Ellison live to lead him to John... dunno. Weaver, I have no idea what she was up to. Letting the 4th guy live in the bowling alley, yeah big mistake.
Don't be spoilerific - some of us don't watch until later in the week. ;)
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Well I guess later in the week it shall be starting in February, still think Wednesday next to Night Rider would have been better to get that garbage of the air.
Sarah Connor to Jump Nights in Early '09 (http://firefox.org/news/articles/2221/1/Sarah-Connor-to-Jump-Nights-in-Early-03909/Page1.html)
So anyone still watching this, getting pretty good IMO.
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So are the T's actually at war with other?
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Well I guess later in the week it shall be starting in February, still think Wednesday next to Night Rider would have been better to get that garbage of the air.
Sarah Connor to Jump Nights in Early '09 (http://firefox.org/news/articles/2221/1/Sarah-Connor-to-Jump-Nights-in-Early-03909/Page1.html)
So anyone still watching this, getting pretty good IMO.
*SPOILERS!*
Personally, I thought this season was going pretty well, but the last episode was a setback IMO. There seem to be two, maybe three seperate forces of terminators with seperate objectives at this point, which seems a little goofy for skynet to allow. They sent (yet another) termy back this week and he lasted all of 60 seconds...used to be they'd make a full 2hr movie about each new terminator, but now they're practically a subplot. I'm still watching, but let's settle down on the new termy per episode.
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So are the T's actually at war with other?
Dunno, there seems to be different units of the Terminators but only 3 that I can see in the terminatorwiki (http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Sarah+Connor+Chronicles%3A+The+Terminators) but that should be 4 if you include Victoria in the bitch fight.
Amount of T-888 Units that have appeared within the series:
6 Units as follows:
'Carter': (Mission was to secure a supply of Coltan) - Was locked in a sealed bunker
Killed at least 3
'Vick': (Mission was ensure functionality of an A.I. system) - Terminated by Cameron
Killed at least 5 (Including 3 members of Dereks safehouse, Jessica Peck & Barbara Chamberlain)
'Greenway': (Mission was to cause a failure in a nuclear plants systems) - Terminated By Cameron
At least 1 (Carl Greenway)
'Bedell Assassin' (Mission was to terminate Martin Bedell) - Terminated By Derek Reese
Killed at least 1 (Martin Bedell)
'Victora' (Mission was to terminate Dr. Boyd Sherman) - Terminated By Cameron
Killed at least 2 (Bus driver, Dr. Sherman's receptionist)
'Ellison' (Mission was to terminate James Ellison) - Terminated by Cromartie
Killed at 1 (Peter Myers)
This Victoria (http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Victoria) unit was different & not a T-888 like the others. She had movements that the other don't do plus having a chip that will self destruct, a litte advanced?
Weaver is a T-1001 (http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Catherine_Weaver), liquid version & more advanced. Cameron is known as a TOK-715 (http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/TOK715) version, her behavior is much different.
Chromartie is showing different actions unlike other Terminators, thinking & learning kinda like Weaver is showing interest in the child acting like a human maybe to better understand humans or becoming more self aware.
Maybe we are seeing certain Terminator units from different future time lines arriving?
Whatever the game is, well fine out more in time I guess. :-\
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Well I guess later in the week it shall be starting in February, still think Wednesday next to Night Rider would have been better to get that garbage of the air.
Sarah Connor to Jump Nights in Early '09 (http://firefox.org/news/articles/2221/1/Sarah-Connor-to-Jump-Nights-in-Early-03909/Page1.html)
So anyone still watching this, getting pretty good IMO.
Oh well, it was good for two seasons. You could almost guarentee this this show will not last past this season with a shift to Friday. Fox shifts shows to Friday to kill them off by saying they have low ratings. Of course, most people go out on Fridays. Maybe with the poor economy people will stay home and watch. However, Fox isn't looking at the geek factor. Sci-Fi channel already has established a geek following for original programming on Friday nights.
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Not sure what Terminator goes up against up here at that time, no Sci-Fi channel unless ya pay the bucks to get it. I agree that Friday night is a bad night like you mentioned, it's the start of the weekend & people go see a new flick or hit the bars.
Tonights episode is a must watch from what I have read on the net & seeing the trailer that looks like it has lots of action. Not to have any spoilers attached below :P ...
This one is said to be a big episode with some events that might change the series forever.
Also FOX is having a live chat with a cast member from the looks of it after tonights episode, the chat starts at 9pm ET on the Terminator Wiki @ FOX (http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/) is anyone is interested.
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Well I guess later in the week it shall be starting in February, still think Wednesday next to Night Rider would have been better to get that garbage of the air.
Sarah Connor to Jump Nights in Early '09 (http://firefox.org/news/articles/2221/1/Sarah-Connor-to-Jump-Nights-in-Early-03909/Page1.html)
So anyone still watching this, getting pretty good IMO.
Oh well, it was good for two seasons. You could almost guarentee this this show will not last past this season with a shift to Friday. Fox shifts shows to Friday to kill them off by saying they have low ratings. Of course, most people go out on Fridays. Maybe with the poor economy people will stay home and watch. However, Fox isn't looking at the geek factor. Sci-Fi channel already has established a geek following for original programming on Friday nights.
True, but Sci-Fi is loosing Stargate Atlantis in January, and BSG is gone after this season. That leaves Dr. Who which is mostly durring the summer, and Sanctuary to anchor the Friday night spot. Friday nights big stuff is NCIS and Numb3rs.
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Well I guess later in the week it shall be starting in February, still think Wednesday next to Night Rider would have been better to get that garbage of the air.
Sarah Connor to Jump Nights in Early '09 (http://firefox.org/news/articles/2221/1/Sarah-Connor-to-Jump-Nights-in-Early-03909/Page1.html)
So anyone still watching this, getting pretty good IMO.
Oh well, it was good for two seasons. You could almost guarentee this this show will not last past this season with a shift to Friday. Fox shifts shows to Friday to kill them off by saying they have low ratings. Of course, most people go out on Fridays. Maybe with the poor economy people will stay home and watch. However, Fox isn't looking at the geek factor. Sci-Fi channel already has established a geek following for original programming on Friday nights.
True, but Sci-Fi is loosing Stargate Atlantis in January, and BSG is gone after this season. That leaves Dr. Who which is mostly durring the summer, and Sanctuary to anchor the Friday night spot. Friday nights big stuff is NCIS and Numb3rs.
I was more thinking that Sci-Fi channel would be more of a draw of the people who like Terminator. I believe NCIS skews more to the older crowd. I would think it should be winding up at some point.
Last nights episode was awesome. I can't wait to see where they go with the story line next week.
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A very good episode last night, it just drew me into it wanting more. Still a few questions but some others may have not seen the episode yet, will wait. :P
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Well I guess later in the week it shall be starting in February, still think Wednesday next to Night Rider would have been better to get that garbage of the air.
Sarah Connor to Jump Nights in Early '09 (http://firefox.org/news/articles/2221/1/Sarah-Connor-to-Jump-Nights-in-Early-03909/Page1.html)
So anyone still watching this, getting pretty good IMO.
Oh well, it was good for two seasons. You could almost guarentee this this show will not last past this season with a shift to Friday. Fox shifts shows to Friday to kill them off by saying they have low ratings. Of course, most people go out on Fridays. Maybe with the poor economy people will stay home and watch. However, Fox isn't looking at the geek factor. Sci-Fi channel already has established a geek following for original programming on Friday nights.
Friday wouldn't be my first pick, but might be just fine depending on the timing. If there is a geek following on Friday nights, then this would actually be a smart move to capture that crowd. I don't get the Sci-Fi channel anymore, but it's been a very long time since they had good Friday night programming outside of Battlestar IMO. Maybe the schedule will improve by the time the switch is made, but the Friday night lineup this week is below:
07:00 PM STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION THE ENSIGNS OF COMMAND
08:00 PM STARGATE ATLANTIS (SEASON 5) THE PRODIGAL
09:00 PM STARGATE ATLANTIS (SEASON 5) REMNANTS
10:00 PM SANCTUARY THE FIVE
Doesn't look like anything Termy couldn't beat the tar out of.
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Well I guess later in the week it shall be starting in February, still think Wednesday next to Night Rider would have been better to get that garbage of the air.
Sarah Connor to Jump Nights in Early '09 (http://firefox.org/news/articles/2221/1/Sarah-Connor-to-Jump-Nights-in-Early-03909/Page1.html)
So anyone still watching this, getting pretty good IMO.
Oh well, it was good for two seasons. You could almost guarentee this this show will not last past this season with a shift to Friday. Fox shifts shows to Friday to kill them off by saying they have low ratings. Of course, most people go out on Fridays. Maybe with the poor economy people will stay home and watch. However, Fox isn't looking at the geek factor. Sci-Fi channel already has established a geek following for original programming on Friday nights.
Friday wouldn't be my first pick, but might be just fine depending on the timing. If there is a geek following on Friday nights, then this would actually be a smart move to capture that crowd. I don't get the Sci-Fi channel anymore, but it's been a very long time since they had good Friday night programming outside of Battlestar IMO. Maybe the schedule will improve by the time the switch is made, but the Friday night lineup this week is below:
07:00 PM STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION THE ENSIGNS OF COMMAND
08:00 PM STARGATE ATLANTIS (SEASON 5) THE PRODIGAL
09:00 PM STARGATE ATLANTIS (SEASON 5) REMNANTS
10:00 PM SANCTUARY THE FIVE
Doesn't look like anything Termy couldn't beat the tar out of.
The competition doesn't really matter. This is the Fox channel. Ratings have been down for the show. Fox is not forgiving in these circumstances. Dark Angel was moved to Friday's at one point, and it didn't make it past season 2...Season 3 could have been moved to Sunday's since X-Files ended the same year and could have filled that gap. Boston Public (I think that was the name) was moved to Fridays and then cancelled. Same thing with Reunion and a host of other shows. Fox moves shows to Fridays as a cop out to say they don't achieve ratings goals (which is hard, due to the night) and then cancels the shows.
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I wouldn't say competition doesn't matter - I think we've all seen good shows cancelled when they can't get the ratings they need because they're going up against something more popular on another channel. Timeslot is obviously another consideration, but if there is a supposed "geek" audience on Friday night and a vacuum of anything good to watch on Sci-Fi, then it might do quite well. I think there are also much higher expectations for network shows versus cable shows.
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I have a bad feeling about this. Can they count DVR recordings & if so do they count towards ratings?
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I have a bad feeling about this. Can they count DVR recordings & if so do they count towards ratings?
DVR Recording is tracked by Nielsen Media, but isn't always given the same consideration as regular viewing from what I understand. I think the jury is still out as to whether people skip over ads with their DVRs. If they do, then the households viewing are potentially worth less because the shows make their money via advertising and advertisers don't want to pay for shows where the commercials are being skipped.
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Another interesting episode last night, still raises more questions tho.
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Another interesting episode last night, still raises more questions tho.
I would have loved to see them shoot the kid to see what happened to the older guy.
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I love this show which I initially thought would fail. My only problem is that with with the future having been seen and created on one level, that there is now no way to change the past since the future can always go back and change the events that could destroy humanity. We are beginning to see this take effect. Plus the idea of multiple futures is going to create multiple pasts thus multiple timelines making the future very confusing on both the humans and machines. Not sure what show (maybe History Channel or Discovery) that discussed this and the actual chance that this is possible. Really quite confusing if you are not an physic or astrophysic.
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So is Sarah now dealing with Cancer? We know that in the 1st season she avoided it due to changes in the future when she time travelled in the bank. But has the future changed once again and how? Cromartie being saved from his burial in the desert?
Cameron also mentioned pregnancy. If so how is that going to change things. Abortion to eliminate the baby to the future.
Too many twists or not enough?
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I love this show which I initially thought would fail. My only problem is that with with the future having been seen and created on one level, that there is now no way to change the past since the future can always go back and change the events that could destroy humanity. We are beginning to see this take effect. Plus the idea of multiple futures is going to create multiple pasts thus multiple timelines making the future very confusing on both the humans and machines. Not sure what show (maybe History Channel or Discovery) that discussed this and the actual chance that this is possible. Really quite confusing if you are not an physic or astrophysic.
The entire show is an alternate timeline, at least from the T2 to T3 standpoint. T4 is going to take place based on the events in T3. SCC started between T2 and T3, and thus wiped out the T3 timeline when they jumped to the future.
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I love this show which I initially thought would fail. My only problem is that with with the future having been seen and created on one level, that there is now no way to change the past since the future can always go back and change the events that could destroy humanity. We are beginning to see this take effect. Plus the idea of multiple futures is going to create multiple pasts thus multiple timelines making the future very confusing on both the humans and machines. Not sure what show (maybe History Channel or Discovery) that discussed this and the actual chance that this is possible. Really quite confusing if you are not an physic or astrophysic.
The entire show is an alternate timeline, at least from the T2 to T3 standpoint. T4 is going to take place based on the events in T3. SCC started between T2 and T3, and thus wiped out the T3 timeline when they jumped to the future.
Actually, it's my understanding that T3 may have zero impact on T4, since it's essentially a prequel to T1 (despite being in the future). T4 takes place before anyone is ever sent back in time, so it would fit with chronology of T1 or the series, assuming the series does not avert Skynet from taking over.
I like the idea that the future is constantly changing as present events are changing...
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So what episode are you guys upto there?
It hasnt even come back on down here and i've just finished downloading and watching the first 9 eps
I'm impressed, the whole thing has been pretty slick so far.
I hope it dont get canned
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The last one was episode 9 with Charles Fisher & Ellison taking Cromartie's body "Complications".
Here's a run down of the episode names for season 2:
1: Samson & Delilah.
2: Automatic For The People.
3: The Mousetrap.
4: Allison From Palmdale.
5: Goodbye To All That.
6: The Tower Is Tall But The Fall Is Short.
7: Brothers Of Nablus.
8: Mr. Ferguson Is Ill Today.
9: Complications.
10: Strange Things Happen At The One Two Point. Airs tonight.
11: Self Made Man. Airs Dec 1.
12: Alpine Fields. Airs Dec 8.
13: Earthlings Welcome Here. Airs Dec 15.
22-23 episodes total this season. Looks like no news ones till February 13th.
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 Episode Guide: (http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Season+2++Episodes)
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Thanks Dale, you are just the most helpfull Canadian in the world!!
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No problem Hemish. :)
Well that was another interesting episode. :o :-X
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No problem Hemish. :)
Well that was another interesting episode. :o :-X
Great ending...not exactly what I was expecting.
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Agreed, that was totally unexpected
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Agreed, that was totally unexpected
My wife and I were watching it and I jokingly told her that was going to be the ending. Then it really happened. Still trying to figure out the connection between the 2 women that are not Sarah or a liquid terminator. It appears that the blonde is from the future too.
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Not what I expected for an episode last night, was hoping for more continuation of last weeks great ending. Not a great episode, more like a filler. Still can't figure out Cameron yet let alone Riley.
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Not what I expected for an episode last night, was hoping for more continuation of last weeks great ending. Not a great episode, more like a filler. Still can't figure out Cameron yet let alone Riley.
Not sure what Carmen is upto, but interesting story. Proof that the computers are falible in time travel. Currious to know what the point is of that mans death she kept from happening. I liked the story for Carmen and how they are trying to show a more human side to her. Riley story is getting played out and needs to come to an end soon. Next weeks preview looks great.
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Spoilers...
Cameron is not a great protector of John as she goes to this library to read up on what... historys events while John is either at home or someplace in the city unprotected. ::)
As for mans death she kept from happening, not a clue what role he had/has or will play. As for John & Riley, well at least he can get some now. ;)
Yeah, I like the part of the Termy being sent to the wrong time. So computers/AI can **** up! ;D
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I watched last nights episode online, it was interesting but they haven't moved the main story along thus far. Flash back, flash forward... etc. It did have a couple of lol's tho. ;D
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I watched last nights episode online, it was interesting but they haven't moved the main story along thus far. Flash back, flash forward... etc. It did have a couple of lol's tho. ;D
I think the last episode was pretty much a stand alone episode which let them cross a name off the wall essentially. The previews for next week certainly looks like we are getting back to the main story.
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Just watched the preview on youtube, we get the previews cut off up here on our network. ::)
Looks great, shaping of things to come. ;D
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I think it is interesting in last weeks episode that the Lauren doesn't tell Derek thank you for saving my sister AGAIN. She just thanks him for saving her, even though she knows he goes back in time eventually.
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I'm looking forward to tonights episode, looks like some major developments. :-X ;D
Remember, this is the last episode this year then they will be back when the show moves to Fridays in February.
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I'm looking forward to tonights episode, looks like some major developments. :-X ;D
Remember, this is the last episode this year then they will be back when the show moves to Fridays in February.
I had forgotten that, but at least tonights looks like they are going to do some work on the whole Rylie/John situation.
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Dang, this is going to be a long wait till February. A very interesting episode but will not mention anything yet as others may have not seen it so not to mention any spoilers, will give it till the end of the week then blab away. ;)
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Dang, this is going to be a long wait till February. A very interesting episode but will not mention anything yet as others may have not seen it so not to mention any spoilers, will give it till the end of the week then blab away. ;)
Not to ruin anything either; at least the mentioned at the end of the show that they would not be returning until February 13th.
Last nights episode was awesome. It answered as many questions as it left you with.
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I was surprised by the ending. Can't wait until February.
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That WAS what I thought it was, right? What she saw? Pretty cool!
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That WAS what I thought it was, right? What she saw? Pretty cool!
It looks like a Hunter Killer from the movies when they do flashforwars to the future. So it appears that Skynet has figured away to get machines to the past, and not just Organics.
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Prototype?
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/TerminatatorHunterKillerShip.jpg)
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/8336_press01-001.jpg)
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/8336_press05-001.jpg)
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/8336_press04-001.jpg)
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Prototype?
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/TerminatatorHunterKillerShip.jpg)
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/8336_press01-001.jpg)
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/8336_press05-001.jpg)
(http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/8336_press04-001.jpg)
They look more like what was in the first Terminator movie. Who really knows for sure!
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Can't wait till the 13th. 8)
Terminator The Sarah Connor Chronicles: The Good Wound Promo (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Oq8RGbrVs)
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Less than 2 weeks - SWEET!!!!
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Just a reminder that tonight is the night for the return of The Sarah Connor Chronicles. ;D
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That was quick. I hope it does well on the end here to keep it going a few more seasons.
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Friday's are Halo night. I might have to drop this from my viewing. :P
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A good episode, lips sealed till others have seen it. ;)
:o 8) ;D
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Friday's are Halo night. I might have to drop this from my viewing. :P
You do know that there is technology now that allows you to record programs and watch them later, right?
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A good episode, lips sealed till others have seen it. ;)
:o 8) ;D
Really??? I thought it was probably the worst episode of a show I've ever seen that I had to wait numerous months for. Nothing really happened to continue the story.
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Friday's are Halo night. I might have to drop this from my viewing. :P
You do know that there is technology now that allows you to record programs and watch them later, right?
I don't have Tivo and I can't record programs on the VCR while I'm playing xbox. :P
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Your television provider doesn't offer a free DVR? Time to switch!!
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Watch the episodes online. (http://www.sidereel.com/Terminator%3A_The_Sarah_Connor_Chronicles)
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With the move to Friday night, the series jumped to #4 in the ratings from #5. Will see how it goes in the coming weeks, next week is "Some Must Watch While Some Must Sleep!" & in March "Ourselves Alone!" followed by "Today Is The Day (Part 1 of 2)!".
As for last nights episode, it was slow but the ending was cool. :P
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I am now 95% sure some combo of the writers/producers/FOX want this show cancelled after last night's episode.
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Anyone else find it a bit weird that it appeared John was hitting on the chick at the funeral considering his girlfriend tried to kill herself not that long ago.
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Anyone else find it a bit weird that it appeared John was hitting on the chick at the funeral considering his girlfriend tried to kill herself not that long ago.
It was odd. I hope that they end the story with Reily and Dereks chick soon. They both just bother me.
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Anyone else find it a bit weird that it appeared John was hitting on the chick at the funeral considering his girlfriend tried to kill herself not that long ago.
It was odd. I hope that they end the story with Reily and Dereks chick soon. They both just bother me.
The funeral thing was odd.
I don't mind Reily but I can't stand Derek's chick. And as far as their stories ending soon, when the gets cancelled in a couple of months ALL the stories will be gone.
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And as far as their stories ending soon, when the gets cancelled in a couple of months ALL the stories will be gone.
Short 2 months. :P
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles won’t be back next fall (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/22/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-wont-be-back-next-fall/13263)
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I am not even remotely surprised by this news. I'm not even sure how I feel about it. When it was on Monday's it sucked because it was a competition with Chuck, but on Friday's at 8 it's the only thing to watch IMO.
Oh, well.
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Friday nights claimed another series.
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Well, there's always SW:TCW on Fridays now.
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Well, there's always SW:TCW on Fridays now.
It's a cartoon and it is geared for kids, not adults. Kids love all sorts of cartoons. This explains the popularity of Pokemon, Ben 10, Digi-mon, and such.
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Correction, nothing explains the popularity of Pokemon. Now, Ben 10, that's a fun show.
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And as far as their stories ending soon, when the gets cancelled in a couple of months ALL the stories will be gone.
Short 2 months. :P
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles won’t be back next fall (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/22/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles-wont-be-back-next-fall/13263)
I believe I called this back when the first annouced the switch to Fridays further back in the thread. No big surprise with Fox. I don't think they have every kept any show that they switched to Fridays. I would assume Doll House is not going to make it either.
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I'm kind of indifferent about Dollhouse. It's not really breaking new ground on anything. And while Matt Keeslar as the psychotic hunter in the Most Dangerous Game-esque episode was brilliant casting, watching people run around in the woods for an hour (even with Eliza Dushku's heaving breasts) isn't the most exciting thing I could be doing on Friday night.
Reports are that the show gets better after the first episode but it needs to get a lot better, a lot faster.
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I'm kind of indifferent about Dollhouse. It's not really breaking new ground on anything. And while Matt Keeslar as the psychotic hunter in the Most Dangerous Game-esque episode was brilliant casting, watching people run around in the woods for an hour (even with Eliza Dushku's heaving breasts) isn't the most exciting thing I could be doing on Friday night.
Reports are that the show gets better after the first episode but it needs to get a lot better, a lot faster.
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Seeing Eliza Dushku's heaving breasts is better than just about everything else there is to do on a Friday night.
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I don't get Terminator. Why even air these episodes? They are worthless.
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I had absolutely no idea what was going on last night. So was the stuff at the clinic what was really happening or was the stuff in the van what was really happening? I'm so confused! ???
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I watched it last night, what a waste.
From what I can figure out, the stuff at the "Sleep Clinic" was a dream brought on by the drugs being pumped into her by her captor. Sara had visions being injected by the nurse who was metal. They really didn't got shot by the nurse as Sara was driving at the end.
I wish I was dreaming. :-\
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After A Slow Patch, Sarah Connor's Coming Back Full Throttle (http://io9.com/5162419/after-a-slow-patch-sarah-connors-coming-back-full-throttle?skyline=true&s=x)
Sarah Connor season finale will wrap things up ... sort of (http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/sarah-connor-season-finale-will-wrap-things-up-sort-of.php)
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I watched it last night, what a waste.
From what I can figure out, the stuff at the "Sleep Clinic" was a dream brought on by the drugs being pumped into her by her captor. Sara had visions being injected by the nurse who was metal. They really didn't got shot by the nurse as Sara was driving at the end.
I wish I was dreaming. :-\
Sleep Clinic was the dream and the Van was really what was happening. My interpretation is that her mind was using the sleep clinic to protect herself from him.
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I still really enjoy this show, but admittedly last week's episode was strange. How did the guy survive the gunshot wound? Was the taser attack where he got her? Maybe the sleep clinic was created from a memory of the institution she was in with Dr Silberman...
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Now that was a good episode last night. Why wouldn't they all be that way when we all know there is very little chance this show will be back next season?
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That was an awesome episode last night! I saw the death coming from a mile away though, I just didn't think it would happen that way. :o
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Just watched this as I was at Watchmen last night. Holy crip, now that episode is just what we need. You would think that Sara & John would know where Riley was from with all the talk of bleached skulls & such, maybe that will be revealed soon. How Jesse is going to explain to Derek how she got beat up, the next few episodes should be good if the follow last nights routine.
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Pretty good episode, now to wait till next Friday to get answers.
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POTENTIAL SPOILER....
I think the package is Cameron.
....END POTENTIAL SPOILER
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A very indepth episode last night, not Cameron in the box tho.
Still so many questions. Who was that metal in the box... Weaver? Same finger wave as the T-1000 in Terminator 2, was that a nod or other? Is Jesse dead? What's with the lamp, a symbolic meaning? What is Weaver doing to John Henry? With the answer of "No" to the question "Will you join us?", does this mean that there are rouge Terminator's that want/do coexist peacefully?
This series has picked up abit & is getting better.
Holy crap! Just found this that was shown at WonderCon.
The first few episodes we have seen but the last 3... :o
Exclusive: Massive 'Sarah Connor' spoiler alert! (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/03/exclusive-massi.html)
Stay tuned, the last 3 episodes are:
To The Lighthouse, March 27th.
Adam Raised a Cain, April 3rd.
Born to Run, April 10th.
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A very indepth episode last night, not Cameron in the box tho.
Still so many questions. Who was that metal in the box... Weaver? Same finger wave as the T-1000 in Terminator 2, was that a nod or other? Is Jesse dead? What's with the lamp, a symbolic meaning? What is Weaver doing to John Henry? With the answer of "No" to the question "Will you join us?", does this mean that there are rouge Terminator's that want/do coexist peacefully?
This series has picked up abit & is getting better.
Holy crap! Just found this that was shown at WonderCon.
The first few episodes we have seen but the last 3... :o
Exclusive: Massive 'Sarah Connor' spoiler alert! (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/03/exclusive-massi.html)
Stay tuned, the last 3 episodes are:
To The Lighthouse, March 27th.
Adam Raised a Cain, April 3rd.
Born to Run, April 10th.
Nod to T-2 - Yes
Jesse Dead - Yes
Lamp - Got me. I found it annoying
Waver to John Henry - Teaching him that humans are falible and don't all live by the same sets of rules.
The Question - It would leave me to believe that there are robots out there with 2 sets of programing. A group that follows Skynets rule of killing all humans, and ones that believe there are other options.
SPOILER
Remember that the Liquid Terminator didn't kill anyone other than the girl that drew a gun on it. Otherwise it roamed the ship and never killed anyone. If it had been like Robert Patrick from T-2 everyone would have been dead. And when the ship exploded it was seen swiming away.
END Spoiler
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I have not watched last nights episode of "To The Lighthouse" yet tho I have seen clips from the episode & it looks awesome. I will watch it when I get a chance as I have a toy show to do this weekend.
Enjoy the next few episodes as these will be the last unless it gets picked up by another network. :-\
Terminator The Sarah Connor Chronicles CANCELLED 04-10-2009 (http://www.fmqinc.com/terminator-cancelled/)
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SORT OF SPOILER
Does anyone think that maybe Shirley Manson and John Henry could be "good" machines in the future and the other group of machines that has now shown up are the "bad" ones?
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Last night's episode was the first I caught in a while and I quite liked it.
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That's an interesting idea, Nick. I hadn't thought about that. Weaver's just always seemed so evil.
The season series finale looks pretty cool, I just hope they wrap up the season series nicely. Otherwise I'll be kinda upset, since they won't be able to resolve any cliffhangers they had planned. :-\
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Just watched it, it was awesome. Are there rouge Terminators, good & bad? Me thinks so, Weaver might be a good T-1001 & creating a good metal of John Henry. A bad Terminator showing up at Weaver's place for what, her elimination/termination. As for Derek, didn't see that coming. Guess that explains his move to a new series.
Still nothing really confirmed from Fox that the series has been cancelled, could be they are waiting in the wings seeing what the ratings are with these last episodes. Will see next week what happens with the last of the season with "Born to Run".
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This was a good episode as usual, but I thought the Derek event was too sudden and not dramatic enough. I did really feel for John, though, seeing as how his girlfriend, father figure, and uncle all got affected by his existence. You could tell he was holding back the tears.
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My wife and I both agree that Derek's death was just disturbing. You normally see these things coming and this just came out of no where. I personally am rather angry at it. I understand why it needed to happen, especially if they are cancelling the series. I just thought it was good that they burried him in the same cemetary as Reese.
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Just watched it, it was awesome. Are there rouge Terminators, good & bad? Me thinks so, Weaver might be a good T-1001 & creating a good metal of John Henry. A bad Terminator showing up at Weaver's place for what, her elimination/termination. As for Derek, didn't see that coming. Guess that explains his move to a new series.
Still nothing really confirmed from Fox that the series has been cancelled, could be they are waiting in the wings seeing what the ratings are with these last episodes. Will see next week what happens with the last of the season with "Born to Run".
I think it is ridiculous that FOX has stated in the previews for next week that it is the "season" finale and not the "series" finale when they all know they wanted to cancel the show ever since they moved it to Friday nights. I can't think of any show that FOX has moved to Fridays that actually survived. I believe they are even playing the last few episodes of Prison Break in that timeslot.
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Tonight is the night for the The Sarah Connor Chronicles
series season ender "Born to Run".
I have just spoiled my self by reading what is the complete rundown of tonights episode. Nothing to add, just watch it. ;)
Talk later... :P
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Just watched it... Jesus H. Christ in a ******* chicken basket! :o :o 8)
If this episode doesn't get a high rating, it will be a shame. It was ******* the best episode & if it does not come back for a 3rd season then what a way to end it. I wanted more. Weaver the good T-1001 & John Henry... rouge Terminator's & the box... :-*
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That episode was fan-*******-tastic. Too bad that there hadn't been more of that during the middle of the season. Unfortunately, while they answered a couple questions (and tied some strings together), the unanswered questions left don't look like they'll ever get answered.
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SORT OF SPOILER
Does anyone think that maybe Shirley Manson and John Henry could be "good" machines in the future and the other group of machines that has now shown up are the "bad" ones?
MORE SPOILERS
I knew it.
I thought the "sex" scene between John and Cameron was odd.
And finally what the hell happened at the end? I'm not sure my understanding is correct.
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And finally what the hell happened at the end? I'm not sure my understanding is correct.
John was transported to the future so he could be "introduced" to the resistance and earn his eventual leadership and legendary status. So ... nothing has really changed. We just now know how it happened.
;)
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That was an awesome finale. I'm really gonna miss this series. :(
The eel thing was really cool. ;D
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Didn't watch all of it since I was flipping between hockey, baseball and this but liked what I saw from the scene of the jail escape to the end.
I haven't been following all the the talk about if this show is going to end or not so this may be a mute point but since Sarah Connor is not seen in the future could this be why people are talking about TSCC being over. So next season instead of TSCC we get the John Connors Chronicles or something like that. I doubt this would happen but it would through.
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Well the rating was low so it looks like SCC maybe be done, will still have to wait tho.
This was posted Apr 11/09. Ratings Source: Mediaweek:
#1. Ghost Whisperer, 10.23,
#2. Wife Swap (repeat), 4.64,
#3. Howie Do It (2 Episodes), 3.86.
#4. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, 3.56 & up from last week from 3.35, #4.
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I will give everyone till tuesday before I talk more in depth on the show...
Otherwise - HOLY ****!!! That was by far the best episode EVER!!!
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SORT OF SPOILER
Does anyone think that maybe Shirley Manson and John Henry could be "good" machines in the future and the other group of machines that has now shown up are the "bad" ones?
MORE SPOILERS
I knew it.
I thought the "sex" scene between John and Cameron was odd.
And finally what the hell happened at the end? I'm not sure my understanding is correct.
I'm a little confused myself. I'm not sure why Cameron would give her chip to John Henry and how she could actually transfer it to John Henry. I figured once he pulled the chip, her body can't function and I thought the wire sticking out of the back of his head was plugged into the chip socket. If he plugged in her chip, is he now Cameron, John Henry or some combo of both.
Not too sure why he would go to the future either unless John Henry was trying to find his "brother". The only part that made sense was that no one had heard of John Conner because he jumped past Judgement Day so he never grew up to lead the resistance. I don't think jumping ahead to meet the resistance makes any sense unless he goes back to his own time.
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John is now 16 years old in the future. I'd say that gives him plenty of time to "grow up" and lead the resistance. The T-1001 just made sure that happened by jumping him through time.
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But Christian Bale isn't 16... :P
What's he supposed to do, hang out for 20 years while people are rounded up and executed?
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The thing that sucks about this show is that the writers probably had some ideas of how to explain a lot of this for next season but may never get that chance.
On the Cameron/John Henry issue, the cable hooked to John Henry wasn't in his chip socket, it was in the back of his head. My assumption is that he took Cameron's chip out, inserted it into his chip socket and then plugged her into the computer in his place. Whether or not he's Cameron/John Henry now or just Cameron, I'm not sure. Since he didn't have a memory without being plugged in, I'm guessing that unless he downloaded parts of himself into the chip, he's just Cameron now. Her exoskeleton was damaged so she needed a new one and JH was it for her.
As for John jumping ahead, I don't really know what the deal on that one is. Unless the plan was for him to see what happens in the future, get some experience and then jump back so he can help set up the resistance. But, if he skipped ahead and there was still a resistence, then...I don't know. It's another one of those time paradox things that make me flip out if I think about them too much.
Here's another question though. At the very end we saw some lightening and then Sarah's voice. Did she travel into the future also?
One thing that I took away from this season is that Weaver is apparently and offshoot of the other Terminators and is working to stop the outcome we know about. Asking John if he'd join her and the metal on the sub being asked the same thing ties that all together IMO. But why she was working against Skynet is a question we'll probably never have answered.
I don't expect the new film to have any real ties to the TV series. So, unless I'm wrong and somehow TSCC gets another season, I don't expect to ever get any answers to the questions raised this season.
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Yeah, this
series season ender raised more questions than answers, it sure has the internet a buzz tho.
My assumption is that he took Cameron's chip out, inserted it into his chip socket and then plugged her into the computer in his place. Since he didn't have a memory without being plugged in, I'm guessing that unless he downloaded parts of himself into the chip, he's just Cameron now.
Cameron was not plugged into the computer when John, Weaver, Sarah & Ellison entered the room.
That's what I'm thinking, JH downloaded all the info he needed into the chip before he inserted the chip in his head.
Here's another question though. At the very end we saw some lightening and then Sarah's voice. Did she travel into the future also?
The blue lightning that was caused by the TDE "Time Displacement Equipment" appeared in another room from where John & Weaver appeared. So did Sarah change her mind & decide to make the jump? I can't see just a voice gong through the TDE so something/someone came through. ???
Nice seeing Allison Young in the end tho. So do we have an alternate timeline? Time travel, a tricky subject. 1.21 gigawatts! :D
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I understand that every time someone jumps through time and does something it changes the future, etc etc etc. but to me that "fact" makes one version of the future a small fraction of the "rest" of the futures and takes away from what you are watching. I think they need to down play that.
I don't like young John jumping into the middle of the resistance he started. That doesn't make sense to me in keeping with my general understanding of Terminator stuff. I'm a fan but not super hardcore and it just confuses me.
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Scoop: Fox set to terminate 'Sarah Connor Chronicles' (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/scoop-fox-set-t.html?cnn=yes)
Resist the urge to nuke the messenger, but multiple sources are telling me that Fox will not be renewing Terminator: The Summer Glau Sarah Connor Chronicles for a third season.
"It's done," maintains a source close to the show. "Everyone has pretty much known for a couple of weeks." Adds a network insider: "Consider it canceled."
The one bright spot? Despite horrific ratings, Fox isn't ready to declare SCC dead and buried -- at least not officially. "No decision has been made yet," insists a network rep. "We will be announcing our fall schedule on May 18."
Rough translation: It won't be back.
Oh, I just thought of one other bright spot: At least the show went out on top creatively. Last Friday's finale was an action-packed, closure-filled triumph. The only thing left unresolved is what Summer Glau will do for an encore. I'm thinking 24 should hire her as next season's Big Bad.
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It is obvious FOX plans to cancel the show...they do that to all Friday shows. Will someone else pick it up? Who knows, it could depend on well T4 does.
As for the timeline...the initial premise of this show was that T1 and T2 all happened and the show started a little while after T2...probably about 3 years since I think John was 13 in T2. When Cameron jumped them to 2007, an alternate timeline was created, one which the events of T3 never take place, so that John doesn't meet his gf/wife and the military does not create Skynet. I believe the initial premise of T4 is that the events of T3 did take place and therefore, does not have any ties to the TV show, hence we won't see Cameron or even an Arnold cameo (unless they are keeping that real quiet). From what I have seen in the TV previews, it looks like we see Skynets first realistic human looking Terminators as opposed to their failed attempt with the rubbery skin types.
I would say the reason no one knew John in the future is that he jumped over Judgement Day and thus never grew up to start the resistance. While being in the future may give him experience, I don't see any reason the Reese brothers will follow a 16 year old.
I think the Weaver T-1001 is supposed to be the same as the Terminator on the sub...especially with the Moray eel bit. I kind of wonder why she said that she wouldn't join John in the future though. Possibly her plan was to go to the past to prevent Skynet while at the same time ensuring the creation of her race of Terminators, if in fact they even have the desire to wipe out humanity, so Terminator might not be the right term for them.
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I believe the initial premise of T4 is that the events of T3 did take place and therefore, does not have any ties to the TV show, hence we won't see Cameron or even an Arnold cameo (unless they are keeping that real quiet).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/trivia
Roland Kickinger was chosen to portray the Terminator's body, while Arnold Schwarzenegger's face was digitally grafted onto the body. Coincidentally, the former portrayed Schwarzenegger in the biographical film See Arnold Run (2005) (TV).
Arnold is in the movie - All be it as a CG item, but he is in it. It isn't a Terminator movie without him.
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I re-watched the final episode last night and you're right, Cameron was not plugged into John Henry's computer system, there was just the readout on the screen, "I'm sorry John." So, did JH download Cameron into the sytem, upload himself onto her chip and then drop it in his head? Maybe. But if so, other than looking for his brother, I'm not sure why he went to the future.
I don't know. And you know what, I don't care. If the series is done, in the end, it doesn't matter because the films will be what they are and the series is what it is, unfinished.
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I re-watched the final episode last night and you're right, Cameron was not plugged into John Henry's computer system, there was just the readout on the screen, "I'm sorry John." So, did JH download Cameron into the sytem, upload himself onto her chip and then drop it in his head? Maybe. But if so, other than looking for his brother, I'm not sure why he went to the future.
I don't know. And you know what, I don't care. If the series is done, in the end, it doesn't matter because the films will be what they are and the series is what it is, unfinished.
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After the Hunter Killer slams into the building and Weaver saves them, she tells them to run. We then see part of the Liquid Terminator rejoin the larger part. What if that smaller part was down there helping to do the chip transfer?
After all Skynet has tried multiple times to kill John Connor; what if transporting him into the future is Skynets way of trying to keep him from having an impact on the resistance? Skynet could be hoping to make the resistance weaker and easier to destroy if John Connor is a child and has no impact.
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The part that rejoins Weaver is the eel from her fish tank. It gets smashed when the hunter killer crashes into the building.
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The part that rejoins Weaver is the eel from her fish tank. It gets smashed when the hunter killer crashes into the building.
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I will have to rewatch the episode. I missed that.
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Live+7 DVR ratings for Finale 4.49 mil. with a 1.7/6 18-49 demo. ( the demo increased by 80%) (http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/29/special-office-nearly-doubles-its-demo-audience-via-dvr/17696#more-17696)
Commentary: Save this 'Terminator' (http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/05/comment.connor.terminator/index.html)
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I'm surprised ratings don't automatically count DVR views. But then I guess you can't count on anybody watching commercials when they DVR. I sure don't.
To counter that trend they're switching to product placement. I've noticed more natural product placement recently. On Smallville they did an AcuView thing a year or so back that was just cringe-worthy. I think Chloe had dirty contacts and ended with the line "Acuview to the rescue!" I almost puked. You could tell the actress had to struggle to even spit the line out. But last week Jimmy Olsen and Green Arrow were talking about how Jimmy's career experiences weren't exactly the sort of thing you punch in to CareerBuilder.com and it came across as something people would say in regular conversation. They got their plug in without detracting at all from the show. The Office does a really good job of that as well. But for something like Terminator you'd be challenged, especially if the series moves to the future.
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I remember that Smallville episode, Bill. You're right, it was terrible.
I actually like to play Spot the Product Placement on shows. Sometimes, you're right, it's just part of a natural conversation and sometimes it's just something sitting on a desk or whatever. I don't mind those, they're kind of fun to look for.
There was an episode of the Office,though, where they were playing up a Staples brand shredder. And Dwight was all about shredding everything in the office. I think, in that case, they overplayed it on purpose and made it part of a running joke during the show.
Anyway, you're right about the commercials. They can't sell commercial space based on DVD playback, it's on first run shows. From a business standpoint I see why the networks and Neilsen don't count it, but from a practical standpoint, if your show is getting a large viewing between first run and DVR, instead of cancelling based on a lower live viewing, maybe they should try to figure out how to bring the DVR crowd to the TV set to watch live.
I record a lot of stuff in a given week and there are still some days where there are more things on at a given hour than I can watch and record. That's poor scheduling IMO.
But we're talking about FOX. They don't have any loyalty to anything, really, with the possible exception of 24. Since American Idol is such a powerhouse, it helps them finish first for the season every year so everything else they put on is incidental. It shows in the way they treat their shows. The ones that succeed, succeed in spite of FOX. Bones, for example, I can't count how many times that's had its timeslot moved do different hours or different days. Even House is like that. FOX has no loyalty to TSCC because they know they're still going to get their coveted viewership out of Idol.
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The only difference with Bones and House (besides ratings numbers maybe) is that Fox didn't move those shows to the dead zone of Friday nights...that is where they put any show they want to kill off for low ratings. Boston Public, Dark Angel, Prison Break among many others have been moved to Fridays and then promptly cancelled.
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All those shows had below expected ratings in their more favorable time slots. I remember that Terminator started strong, but lost audience very quickly. Prison Break this season cratered (which was just God awful from day one this season... horrible writing after very solid previous seasons... extremely disappointing). If they can't hold an audience on Monday before 24, there's no reason for Fox to keep them there. So they're moved to a night where they'll do less damage in ad revenue. They're not put there to die. They're put there because they've underperformed.
There have been shows that launched on Friday... Dollhouse & Firefly, for example. Those could have done well, but they were mishandled. I haven't heard whether Dollhouse was picked up for next season or not. I'm hoping they give it a shot.
BTW, there's a huge difference between House and those other shows. House is flat-out brilliant. ;)
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I think if you look at a list of cancelled shows on Fox, you will see that they either started or were shifted to Fridays. Without American Idol, Fox probably wouldn't crack the top 10. Fox has very little patience with any show that isn't a blockbuster for them.
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Clicky...clicky.
Friday night death slot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_night_death_slot)
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I think if you look at a list of cancelled shows on Fox, you will see that they either started or were shifted to Fridays. Without American Idol, Fox probably wouldn't crack the top 10. Fox has very little patience with any show that isn't a blockbuster for them.
That's not always true. King of the Hill was never a big hit, and they kept it around forever. They've given a long run to American Dad despite ratings well below Family Guy. This year Fringe took quite a while to get established, but they stuck with it. Now it's the top new series of the year.
Of course I'll always be pissed at them for canceling John Doe...
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The only difference with Bones and House (besides ratings numbers maybe) is that Fox didn't move those shows to the dead zone of Friday nights...that is where they put any show they want to kill off for low ratings. Boston Public, Dark Angel, Prison Break among many others have been moved to Fridays and then promptly cancelled.
Dark Angel got cancelled as much for a completely ****** second season as it did for being on Friday. It lost everything from the first season that made it a fun show to watch. Sorry, but the The Beast showing up in season two was one of the worst ideas ever.
Prison Break, I might also point out, was moved to Friday after they'd already made the call to cancel it. And as much as I love Prison Break, I really am okay with them ending it this year, as long as they have some outcome to this whole Scylla/Company/Mom thing.
I am in agreement with the statement that FOX treats its shows badly. FOX is the worst network as far as fostering a show is concerned. Sure, the other networks will have that rare show that will get only a couple airing and then get pulled, but nobody does it as regularly as FOX. If I were in the business of creating a show and found out that FOX picked it up, I'd probably quit and start looking for a new job.
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I think if you look at a list of cancelled shows on Fox, you will see that they either started or were shifted to Fridays. Without American Idol, Fox probably wouldn't crack the top 10. Fox has very little patience with any show that isn't a blockbuster for them.
That's not always true. King of the Hill was never a big hit, and they kept it around forever. They've given a long run to American Dad despite ratings well below Family Guy. This year Fringe took quite a while to get established, but they stuck with it. Now it's the top new series of the year.
Of course I'll always be pissed at them for canceling John Doe...
I fully expected Fringe to get cancelled just because of the type of show that it is. If you look at the Fox cancelled list, a lot of the shows are sci-fi/fantasy type shows. I'm surprised the Lone Gunmen wasn't on the list...I thought it would have ended up on Fridays at some point.
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I fully expected Fringe to get cancelled just because of the type of show that it is. If you look at the Fox cancelled list, a lot of the shows are sci-fi/fantasy type shows. I'm surprised the Lone Gunmen wasn't on the list...I thought it would have ended up on Fridays at some point.
One thing you need to give Fox credit for is that at least they give sci-fi/fantasy a shot. They're always trying to find the next cult hit. That's led to some very good series, but also many, many misses.
Other networks rarely even try sci-fi.
I held off watching Dollhouse and Fringe because I didn't want to get sucked into something that gets dropped after one season. Don't know that they've decided on Dollhouse yet, but I'll definitely be renting the Fringe series one Blu-ray as soon as it becomes available. I'm hoping they give Dollhouse another year... I'd heard it picked up in the second half of the season, and attracted more viewers.
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I started watching Fringe but didn't get into it that much. It's another show, like Lost, where there are all these hidden things in parts of it that lead to a bigger mystery. And have an online component and all that. I'm sorry, I appreciate their ambition, but I want to spend an hour a week with a show and be able to know what's going on, I don't want to have to then spend hours sifting through web sites trying to get clues.
Dollhouse, on the other hand, I started out not really liking but it's definitely picked up in the last couple of weeks. However, I really don't really see where the show goes in the long run. I don't get what the vision is on that show for a long, multi-year run. IMO, the plot of the show lends itself better to a film or a mini series, not an ongoing television show.
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I've been watching Fringe from time to time...it's better than decent. A little silly, but engaging enough.
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I started watching Fringe but didn't get into it that much. It's another show, like Lost, where there are all these hidden things in parts of it that lead to a bigger mystery. And have an online component and all that. I'm sorry, I appreciate their ambition, but I want to spend an hour a week with a show and be able to know what's going on, I don't want to have to then spend hours sifting through web sites trying to get clues.
I've watched every episode of Fringe and have enjoyed it but am defineately not a huge fan of shows where just watching it isn't enough to know what's happening. I wait for next weeks episode to tell me what happened and leave with just more questions half the time.
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Tomorrow, the official schedule will be announced from Fox. So far from what is being posted on the net, The Sarah Connor Chronicles is not in the line-up as expected. :-\
This is what Fox has lined-up thus far from what I can find but just rumors thus far:
Monday -- "House," "Lie to Me"
Tuesday -- "SYTYCD," "Fringe"
Wednesday -- SYTYCD" results, "Glee"
Thursday -- "Bones," "Kitchen Nightmares" (with "Past Life" taking over after baseball)
Friday -- "Dollhouse"
Sunday -- "Brothers" at 7:30 out of NFL; "Cleveland" at 8:30, all others unchanged.
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They're going to keep Dollhouse, but ditch Terminator? Really?! Well, that frees up another 42 minutes per week for me...
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I can't get over cancelling TSCC and picking up Glee? Really? They should ask CBS how well scripted musicals work in prime time.
I am happy that Dollhouse will be back, even if it's only 13 episodes. That show really did pick up in the last couple weeks of the season even though I still really can't picture a long term vision for this particular show.
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That "Glee" show being on the air at all is hard to wrap your head around.
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That seems like a seudo schedule...SYTYCD is strickly a summer show, as well as Glee. I doubt they would pick up Glee for the fall without even seeing how it does during a summer run. Of course the dancing will be replaced with American Idol...I guess Lie to Me goes on hiatus when 24 returns.
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EW has a report on the Fox season:
'Cold Case' renewed, 'Sarah Connor' axed, and more (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/bubble-show-upd.html?cnn=yes)
I just made the following updates to my Fall TV Cheat Sheet:
• CBS: Cold Case has been renewed for a seventh season. However, Without a Trace is looking "unlikely" to return, insiders confirm.
• ABC: The Unusuals has been officially canceled.
• Fox: Sarah Connor Chronicles has been officially canceled.
Fall TV Cheat Sheet: (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/fall-tv-cheat-s.html)
FOX
24: Already renewed.
American Dad: Already renewed.
American Idol: Already renewed.
Bones: Sure thing. Now officially renewed for two seasons.
Dollhouse: Could go either way. Now hearing it's a long shot. Prospects brightening. Now officially renewed for 13 episodes.
Family Guy: Already renewed.
Fringe: Sure thing. Now officially renewed.
House: Sure thing.
King of the Hill: Officially canceled.
Kitchen Nightmares: Already renewed.
Lie to Me: Sure thing. Officially renewed for 13 episodes.
Prison Break: Officially canceled.
The Simpsons: Already renewed.
Sit Down, Shut Up: It's a goner.
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles: A long shot. Now officially canceled.
'Til Death: Already renewed (unfortunately).
Fox unveils fall schedule (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003860.html?categoryId=14&cs=1)
TSCC was a fun ride, just to late tho.
Edit, just added the Fox release.
FOX's 2009-2010 Schedule: The Press Release (http://www.target419.com/09schedule.htm)
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Airing two 30 minute sitcoms as a lead-in for Dollhouse is brilliant programming on the part of FOX. ::)
Couldn't they have paired it with Fringe to make a nice 2 hour science fiction block? I hate FOX.
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They could always have just canceled the show. ;)
They can't justify putting an under-performing show on a prime night. Bones and Fringe both have solid ratings. They've earned their slots. They're actually putting both at risk by dropping them on the ultra-competitive Thursday night. What happens with Dollhouse if they put it on Thursday and it not only loses to ABC/NBC/CBS but it can't edge out Smallville? It's gone. On Fridays if it can keep an audience (something it's hasn't done all that well this year) it can continue to exist, at least. I know Whedon already said he'd work with a lower budget (apparently he shot an episode on half his normal budget and was happy with the results). They're doing just about everything they can to give this show a chance to stick.
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Still not buying that schedule...SYTYCD as part of the fall lineup? It has never been anything but the bastard step brother of American Idol that they play in the summer. 13 hours of Dollhouse, but on both schedules? Glee, which premiered this week and has not ratings data in both fall and spring?
I would say the Terminator cancellation was inevitable as Judgement Day. They may be kicking themselves if the new movie does really well.
I guess we can kiss Fringe goodbye now. In yet another brilliant move, FOX is putting it up against ratings juggernaut CSI. Look for Fringe to go on hiatus, end up on Friday and then be cancelled at this time next year.