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Title: King Kong
Post by: Jim on June 28, 2005, 07:36 PM
Not sure if anyone caught the trailer last night.  Awesome.  Perfect role for Jack Black.  I have always been a huge fan of Kong since a kid.  Even though alot of people bash the 1976 version I  still like it to this day.  I'm really glad Peter Jackson went back and changed Kong to more of the primate most of us are seeing.  I'm expecting a ton out of this movie because of Jackson.  Hopefully he adds a little of his own vision to this film since it looks closer to the original version.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Darby on June 28, 2005, 08:33 PM
I just wanted Jack to stop talking.  The pacing really seemed off in the beginning, and the dialogue a little bloated, and then of course Kong showed up and I was like "YES!"
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Ben on June 28, 2005, 08:41 PM
Monkeys vs. dinosaurs= Sold American.

 :)
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on June 28, 2005, 10:10 PM
Yes I agree King Kong had all the making of a incredible remake and a great vehicle for Jack black ....right up until the CGI started. Why do studios higher half ass companies to do cheap ass work. THe CGI in King Kong is a step back 15 yearts in technology. How anyone could possibly think that would pass as accpetable is well beyond my realm of comprhension.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Ben on June 28, 2005, 10:38 PM
I'm guessing the CGI isn't done yet.  The movie isn't out until December, so that's plenty of time to finish it up and make it look better.  :)
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Diddly on June 28, 2005, 11:31 PM
Anyone have a link to the trailer?
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Dimetrodon on June 29, 2005, 12:00 AM
I'm guessing the CGI isn't done yet.  The movie isn't out until December, so that's plenty of time to finish it up and make it look better.  :)

Thats always the case with CGI in trailers.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Ben on June 29, 2005, 12:50 AM
Anyone have a link to the trailer?

Volkswagen site. (http://www.kingkongmovie.com/ef239524432ba87f1ca8f70eed4b1fa7/en_splash.html)  :)
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: speedermike on June 30, 2005, 09:56 AM
I saw the Kong trailer on TV as well, and wasn't too impressed with the images.  But I saw it again with War of the Worlds on a big screen, and the CGI looked great.  The NYC shots were amazing.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Diddly on June 30, 2005, 12:48 PM
Yeah, I sawthe trailer with WotW too (and thanks to links from II and Famine ;)). Looks cool, I'm just hoping Jackson isn't planning on making it three hours long.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 30, 2005, 09:12 PM
Everytime I see Jack Black "acting", I think its some sort of minute-long parody on MTV... which is exactly why I'm so depressed after seeing this trailer. It looks like a joke, like it's just a big prank. When the guy is acting serious, he still looks like he's making a parody of a real movie.

Meh. I'll see it, but I'm not so excited now.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Hemish on June 30, 2005, 11:15 PM
Saw the trailer today.
Agree with most thoughts on Jack Black Acting.
He belongs in comedies, he has doen so many its very hard to take him seriously.
The growl from kong the first time was very very cool and i had high hopes till.......................
The dinosaurs , wtf????
they looked crap!!!
and the giant bugs that guy was swatting away wtf ???
Not holding my breath for this one, will be a rental me thinks


Finally all the PJ fanboys will have something to bitch about because i think this is gonna tank.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Dimetrodon on July 1, 2005, 12:37 AM
Jim Carrey was always a nut, probably a bigger one than Jack, but he can pull off a serious role pretty well..

We'll just have to see in December
Title: Re: Official Movie Thread
Post by: Brian on November 4, 2005, 03:52 PM
Looks like King Kong has a new trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/king_kong/hd/) up at Apple now, doesn't look too bad to me.
Title: Re: Official Movie Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on November 4, 2005, 10:41 PM
Whoa! That King Kong trailer rocks!  :o   8)
Title: Re: Official Movie Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 11, 2005, 07:39 PM
Saw King Kong this morning. It was just short of a masterpiece IMO. Minor story problems aside that most people won't notice or care about, everything fell togeather brilliantly. I'm excited to see what other people think, and I'm betting most are going to be blown away. I highly recommend watching the original ('33) before seeing the new one, just so you can appreciate some of the great nods to it.

Also saw Match Point Saturday night and thought it was very good.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Jim on December 12, 2005, 10:40 AM
What was the final cut on the run time Anthony?  2.5 or 3 hours?
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 12, 2005, 12:05 PM
What was the final cut on the run time Anthony?  2.5 or 3 hours?

3 hours. And you don't even hear Kong until 70 minutes in. For a long movie, it moves very well. And I read some of the earlier CGI comments and I think for the most part people will be impressed. The Close-ups are simply flawless, but some of the action shots are hit and miss. Most of the imagery though is simply stunning.
Title: Re: Official Movie Thread
Post by: Reid on December 12, 2005, 02:13 PM
Saw King Kong this morning. 

You already saw it? I thought it comes out on wednesday.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: JediMAC on December 12, 2005, 03:28 PM
That lucky bastard has "industry friends", so he gets to see everything early.  Hell, Anthony saw Narnia over a month ago, IIRC.

And he never even invites me to go with him...  >:(
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 12, 2005, 09:24 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Jesse James on December 12, 2005, 11:39 PM
Looks cool, I've been excited to check this film out, but it's a very depressing movie for me so I'm kinda hating that "down" feeling I know I'm going to have while watching it.

My one prof at school wrote a book about hollywood "villains" and stuff.  He wrote about Kong and how there were metaphores pertaining to blacks being oppressed in the US at the time and things.  Interesting notions and thoughts I felt, but I've not read the book really, just know about it from his discussions with me on it.  Seemed interesting though to me.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Nathan on December 13, 2005, 01:40 AM
Looking forward the new version.

Believe it or not, I've never seen the original '33 version ... although I saw parts (maybe all?) of the '76 version a long time ago. I'm debating whether to watch the original first, or go in completely "clean"....
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: JediMAC on December 14, 2005, 04:33 PM
Tickets to the 7:45pm showing tonight, so I'm getting a little excited!  What's kind of sad is that my wife heard a major spoiler on a talk show the other day, which has essentially ruined the movie for her now.  I'm rather surprised she didn't know the ending of King Kong already, as I thought everyone knew what happened to him.  Glad that TV show spoiled it for her before I inadvertently did!  :P

I also dig the 3 hour running time.  I know some folks don't like longer running times, but I'm of the opinion that the more entertainment you get for your money, the better.  That's of course assuming that the extra time isn't wasted on needless fluff, which I don't think is Peter Jackson's style, so we should be in good shap on this one...

So, has anyone else seen it yet besides Anthony?  If so, what'd you think?
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Ryan on December 14, 2005, 05:06 PM
My roommate went to go see it at 2:45, I really wanted to go, but I have a ******* final at 5:45 tonight.  >:(

I was watching the '76 remake on TV today, It is awful. Amusingly so. I still can't wait to see the new one, hopefully I can go this weekend.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: CHEWIE on December 14, 2005, 05:33 PM
I'll probably see this at the theatre at some point, but not overly excited about it... guess from the previews the city shots in NY look way too animated to me along with how he jumps around.  Could be wrong though... and I absolutely can't stand to even look at Jack Black, so I might pass on this film and wait until it's on DVD.  We'll see though.

 :P
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 14, 2005, 05:39 PM
I watched the '33 version on TCM last night, and caught the new version this morning.  Overall I was pleased.  Even though it is a re-imagining of the 1933 film, there were some great nods to the original film.

Overall I was pleased, but PJ really made the Carl Denham character an ass-hole.  Which he really wasn't in the original film.  Minor gripe since I liked his character in the '33 version, as well as the old Son of Kong movie.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Ben on December 14, 2005, 11:22 PM
This flick is only playing on one screen in one theater here, so it'll be some time before I see it.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Sprry75 on December 15, 2005, 12:58 AM
I'm not going to see it, ever.  I am trying to wean myself from [EDIT], and I think that watching King Kong would give me bad thoughts.

Edit:  Holy crap, I had no idea that was a real site.  Sorry, didn't mean to link to hirsute porn.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2005, 02:20 AM
Just got back.

Holy **** was it awesome.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 15, 2005, 01:13 PM
PJ really made the Carl Denham character an ass-hole.  Which he really wasn't in the original film.  Minor gripe since I liked his character in the '33 version, as well as the old Son of Kong movie.

Was it the same actor in Son of Kong?

It's funny, I think the original character was superficial enough to leave room for interpretation because he came off to me kind of - sees the bottom line as #1 - kind of guy which means a-hole to me. But, you're right, Jack Black's version went deeper and darker. I kind of dug it to a point, but I do think that it's a flaw of the film that he didn't walk away from the expeince too affected.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 15, 2005, 05:53 PM
Yes, it was the same guy.  So was the captain of the Venture as well.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 16, 2005, 04:12 AM
I caught it at a THX Certified Megaplex this evening. In my opinion, it's far from flawless. It was certainly WAY too long, thanks in great part to padded action scenes and jungle chases that were nothing more than a showcase for WETA, which was quite frankly somewhat sloppy at times. My other major gripe was in making King Kong into the Frankenstein monster in the way of compassion and understanding. It was just too heavy handed, the whole "gorillas have feelings, too" message.

To its credit, it was cast accordingly, filmed beautifully, and Naomi Watts certainly held her own in recalling Faye Wray. Had it been condensed, which in turn would have made it more effective, Jackson dropping the predisposition to making LOTR length films, it probably would have kept me more entrigued.

Having said that, it was still a great movie, even if it did feel like a summer blockbuster with an unnecessarily epic run time.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 16, 2005, 09:57 AM
I actually felt that if it was longer it could have been better because what I missed were some character details after they got to the island. If those were added, I would have been happy to sit though another hour. I agree some of the action sequences were too long and quite frankly wore me out, I haven't figure out a good fix for those yet. What I thought was funny about the running time was that King King moved faster for me at 3 hours than The Squid and the Whale did at 1 1/2 (excellent movie BTW.)

I've always felt that the Frankenstein thing was the whole crux of the King King story though. I went in hoping for it. :P

One of my major gripes was that the Captain kept coming to the rescue on the island and the first time wasn't very motivated. I think that's a sticking point just because that's a story flaw I've personaly learned to recognize and correct with my own work. I would have corrected it in Kong by having the first mate rescue the film crew at the tribal thing, he was at least semi-motivated to do it. I think it would have been a greater character moment for the Captain to rescue them at the log scene showing that he's broken down to care what happens to the others. Sure it would have stole a little thunder to the actors momment, but I think they could have shared the moment.

I still LOVED the movie though.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Diddly on December 19, 2005, 12:28 AM
Saw it yesterday, and besides the length and the annoying talkers behind me, I loved it.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Famine on December 19, 2005, 12:41 AM
I saw Kong today, and I was absolutley blown away. I went into the movie with 0 expectations, because I saw that there was a Dinosaur Vs Kong scene, and having seen the T-Rex bite it back in JP3, I'm no longer keen on T-Rex's being in movies. It's just a thing I have.

Anyway, that movie had so many suprising moments in it, I litteraly got so excited I had to pee, three times.

Wow.

What a phenominal movie.

Jack Black pulled off his charachter amazingly. I actually believed him.

Kevin
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 19, 2005, 12:55 AM
I went into the movie with 0 expectations, because I saw that there was a Dinosaur Vs Kong scene, and having seen the T-Rex bite it back in JP3, I'm no longer keen on T-Rex's being in movies. It's just a thing I have.

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Kong did have to take on *A* T-Rex in the original, not the 3 or 4 in PJ's re-invisioning, which was unnecessary, and lent to the whole "blockbuster" cliche battle sequence of "King Kong". So, it was faithful to the original in a good many instances, just not in the one where the 1933 version clocked in at just under 100 minutes.
Title: Re: King Kong
Post by: Famine on December 19, 2005, 09:53 AM
Didn't he have to fight Allosaurus's (or what passed for Allosaurus's back then) in the 1933 picture?

Kevin