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Title: Do You Tip?
Post by: Scott on July 27, 2006, 04:20 PM
Do you tip at a Chinese Buffet?

(I have a bunch of other ones to ask...stay tuned)
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Morgbug on July 27, 2006, 04:28 PM
Nope.  Aside from being seated, the direct service is minimal.  I assume they factor that into the price I'm being charged for the buffet.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 27, 2006, 04:32 PM
I do, but I usually get alot of entertainment out of the waitresses... Totally worth it, and after I leave I'm sure they feel they've well deserved it. It amuses me when they constantly refill my drink, to the point of overflowing onto the table, even if I'm obviously not drinking it in the first place. They'll practically pour it into your lap, it's kinda suspensful.


Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Matt on July 27, 2006, 04:36 PM
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Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: john todd on July 27, 2006, 04:42 PM
yes, but only like 10%.  as mentioned before really the only service you are getting from the waitstaff is drink refills.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2006, 05:00 PM
I was actually going to start a thread like this but hadn't gotten around to it yet...

I am a tipper, who isn't.  But I never tiped for take-out... if I pick the pizza up myself, buffets stuff like that.

But two of my friends who I was out with a few weeks ago gave me absolute hell for not tipping the take-out people...

I was never doing it to stiff anyone, just because I hadn't gotten service so I didn't think you were supposed to tip?  My girlfriend and other people I know thought that was perfectly normal and reasonable, but these guys made me feel like a real ******* for not tipping all these people.

They said that if there is a tip line on the credit card reciept, you're supposed to tip.

B.S. or not?



Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Scott on July 27, 2006, 05:01 PM
Take out was my next one.

Places like Outback that have curbside service or Chinese/Pizza places where you go in and get it...
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Darth Jaxx on July 27, 2006, 05:03 PM
Yes I tip at a buffet, but not as generously as I do at a restaraunt.
Besides refilling my drink, they do take away the plates & utinsels when you get up for seconds and also replenish the buffet as needed.
Also, the place I frequent the most has a very friendly wait staff.

As for take-out... I only use 1 pizza joint and 1 Chinese joint. They know me and take care of me so, yes, I tip there too. But again, not as generously as at a restaraunt.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Mikey D on July 27, 2006, 05:11 PM
Sit down it's at least 20%. Cute chicks might get a bit more, but that's because I'm a perv. If it's bad service, then the waitstaff still gets something but very little to show I've haven't just forgotten about the tip. 

Take out and buffets, I'll usually throw them a few bucks.  Curbside brings your food to you, so that merits something.  Especially in the winter when I don't have to get out of the vehicle and freeze my ass off.  And like others have mentioned, buffet places do fill your glasses up and replace your plates when you go back for seconds, so that's deserving of something extra IMO.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Tracy on July 27, 2006, 05:19 PM
It honestly never occured to me to tip when I pick something up myself.  I'm not trying to stiff anyone -- but how does ordering a pizza, me driving to get it, waiting around for them to finish it and then paying for it merit a tip for them?  What's difference between that and me walking up to the counter at any other food joint and ordering a salad/sandwich/pizza and having someone prepare it for me?   Must I tip everyone? ???
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: john todd on July 27, 2006, 05:24 PM
i kinda think the whole world has gone tip crazy.  every time i order at quiznos i notice the tip line on my reciept.  i always think i should write something like "a sandwich shouldn't cost $8", or "every taco bell combo gets a large cup".  but, i just scratch thru it.  i can't imagine tipping for something like that.  

actually, until my little brother became a pizza guy and i found out that like 2/3 of their income comes from tips, i never tipped them either.  i never really thought (and still don't) driving around passing out pizzas was worth more than minimum wage.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Tracy on July 27, 2006, 05:29 PM
A couple of months ago I had a girl's night out.  We had a few drinks and appetizers.  When our checks came, I noticed there was a line on the receipt that said "tip" -- then there was another line that said "additional tip".  So -- having a few Swamp Things in me, I filled in the appropriate tip, under "additional tip" I wrote -- "Avoid the Clap -- Jimmy Duggan" :P

Pissed me off, really. >:(
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Morgbug on July 27, 2006, 05:30 PM
I'm pretty much in the same boat as Tracy.  And I worked in the restaurant industry as a bartender and waiter for nine years.  My rules are thus:

Tip for service when it's due, not when it's expected.  If someone does a good job, give what is expected - whatever the standard in your area is.  But be wary, often those standards are suggested by the very people serving you and working in the service industry.  If someone does an exceptional job, tip them better than you normally would.  If someone does a really crappy job, leave them nothing.  Don't leave a few coins thinking you'll insult them, leave them nothing.  Why?  They'll get the picture much more clearly and won't just think you're a cheap idiot.  

Most restaurants pay their employees minimum wage and the difference they make is based on incentives or tips, as we call them.  Otherwise they starve, but you know what?  If you're crappy at serving, you shouldn't get more just because you show up.  

I can see merit in tipping at a buffet, initially I was thinking of a buffet where you walk in, pay and get pretty much everything yourself (we have those here) including your beverage which is non-alcoholic.  But I think Scott is referring to a different type of restaurant than I was initially thinking and we do indeed tip there, because we order booze with the meal and they bring water and refill it, etc.  

As for tipping at a pizza place when I pick up?  It has merit, but again, it's based on merit.  We often order from the "usual" place, so I tend to know the guys pretty well on a familiarity basis.  Do I tip them?  Yup, if stuffs ready when they say it is.  It pays dividends in that we tend to get better prepared pizza because they remember the name and that we tip.  We'll get extra toppings and have received larger pizzas for nothing in return.  But I won't tip if you tell me 30 minutes, I show up in 35 and wait 20 more.  I'll also tell you why though.  

I much prefer places where the tip is factored into the meal price and the staff are reasonably compensated.  I loathe serving staff that feel they deserve a tip though and I used to work with a lot of them.  You earn it, not deserve it.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: john todd on July 27, 2006, 05:35 PM
As for tipping at a pizza place when I pick up?  It has merit, but again, it's based on merit.  We often order from the "usual" place, so I tend to know the guys pretty well on a familiarity basis.  Do I tip them?  Yup, if stuffs ready when they say it is.  It pays dividends in that we tend to get better prepared pizza because they remember the name and that we tip.  We'll get extra toppings and have received larger pizzas for nothing in return.  

for this exact reason when i go to my usual bar i will tip a little every time i get something, but anywhere else, i never tip at a bar.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: JayDouble on July 27, 2006, 05:40 PM
I normally tip a dollar per person at a buffet.

Eating at a restaurant I usually double the tax which is around 8%.  I'll give more if the waiter/ess is good according to my standards.  

Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: JohnH on July 27, 2006, 05:54 PM
I'll tip at a Chinese buffet, unless the service really sucks.  The one I generally go to costs me $6.50 so I usually just leave $8. 

For carry out?  No way.  I'm not going to tip the cashier at Target for ringing up my underwear, nor will I tip the Pizza Shoppe guy that rung up my tasty pie.  I'm coming to them to purchase their product, they're not bringing it to me.

John
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: name on July 27, 2006, 05:56 PM
Our Chinese Buffet is like what the old man is describing...waitress seats us, keeps the glasses filled, table bussed, and is also busy stocking the buffet.  Usually 15%

Sit down restaurant, 20% in general.  For exceptional service....maybe a little more, but usually rather than beyond the 20% I'll ask the server to speak to their manager and then praise the excellent service.  This way the server gets the message that I appreciated them, AND scores points with the supervisor.  If wife and I both just drank water then I'll up the 20% too since they still had to work to keep it filled, and it's not fair that they not get a return on that.

Poorer service? Poorer tip.

No way in hell am I going to tip for take out, but I see what you guys are saying about taking care of your regular mom and pop joints.

Seldom tip at the Bar...usually all I'm ordering is a beer or a scotch, so tipping there would be like tipping for takeout...if I ordered a Martini, yes...a buck maybe two.  If the bartender recommended a good single malt (I usually have to tell them what's single and what's blended) then yes.  If the bar is really really busy and the tender didn't make me wait or paid attention to me then yeah.  If it's obviously a college student who's busting his ass or if she has big boobs...then yes.

Ok...I guess I do tip at that bar....

The one on my mind is the Pizza Delivery guy.  I tip a buck out of a sense of obligation, but I resent it.  Delivery is the service I purchased from the company...he wasn't doing me any favors.  It seems to me like tipping the UPS driver.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Tracy on July 27, 2006, 05:57 PM
Who's to say that the teeny-booper smacking gum behind the register is even going to share the tip with the guys in the back making your pizza?
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: name on July 27, 2006, 06:03 PM
On the additional tip.....if the restuarant includes gratuity...hell no.  They usually make that 18%, but if they would have just let me tip them I would given 20.  I figure at that point, though, their charging me a surcharge for wait staff so **** them.

Side story - some co-workers and I took our boss to a dinner...about 20 or so in our party.  Dinner probably was close to 5 or 600 bucks.  One coworker put everything on her card, including a 20% tip.  She asked me the next day to divide up the bill and email everyone what they owed her, and when i did that for her I noticed that place had already added a 20% tip to the bill!

She called, and they had noticed her mistake held the charge...didn't run it through thinking she would probably be back.  That was nice of them...
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: john todd on July 27, 2006, 06:35 PM
there was a comic strip a while back where a high school class was being tested and the question was something like "if a group of 10 go to a restaurant and the bill is $275 plus 8% tax and with a 15% gratuity what does each person owe?".   and one of the students was like "awww come on when are we ever going to need this".

at the time it seems like i had been to a dozen lunches where no one could figure out how much to pay, so i thought it was freakin' hilarious.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: JohnH on July 27, 2006, 06:51 PM
I used to tip even better for delivery, especially in crappy weather.  The guy's allowing me to sit on my ass and bringing dinner to me, so I'd generally give 20-25%.  But now that most places charge an extra $1-1.50 for delivery I tend to tip a little less. 

John
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: jadesfire on July 27, 2006, 08:45 PM
Now, I have a question:

If your bill is $42.56, do you just add $8.00 (around 20%) or do you do what my husband does....$8.44?  He absolutely refuses to not round to the nearest dollar.  He has traveled so much with my son, that now Jeff does that!  I don't know why, but it drives me insane.  Jay will look at me like " hey what do I add to .36 cents?? "  I know what he wants but I ignore him in hopes that he just rounds the tip, not his receipt.

Now, onto the original question.  I tip around 20% unless he's cute and I am sloshed...then it's much higher.  Jay is the same way.  I read his slip from Hooters a few weeks ago and the bill was 24.76 (or something like that) and he rounded that sucker up to $40.00.  He said he must of added wrong... ::)
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Mikey D on July 27, 2006, 09:39 PM
Wow, I thought everyone tipped at a bar.  I always leave at least a dollar a drink plus whatever the spare change is.  And again, more if the bartender has boobies.  Tips always lead to faster service for me, so I'm more than happy to do it.  It gets me drunk faster.

Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Morgbug on July 27, 2006, 09:41 PM


Now, onto the original question.  I tip around 20% unless he's cute and I am sloshed...then it's much higher. 


I gotta get back in the service industry.  Where do you live again? ;)
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Tracy on July 27, 2006, 09:48 PM
do you do what my husband does....$8.44?  He absolutely refuses to not round to the nearest dollar. 

My husband does that

Quote from: jadesfire
I tip around 20% unless he's cute and I am sloshed...then it's much higher.

I do that ;)

Quote from: jadesfire
Jay is the same way.  I read his slip from Hooters a few weeks ago and the bill was 24.76 (or something like that) and he rounded that sucker up to $40.00.  He said he must of added wrong... ::)


My husband does that ;)
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Deanpaul on July 27, 2006, 10:17 PM
I'm with Rob.

Just because it's on the receipt doesn't mean they get a tip - that's lame. I'm trying to remember the exact circumstances, but there was one particular place I went that was especially forward about the on reciept tip line. I always put a slash through it because I didn't trust wherever it was to not write their own in should I choose to ignore it.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2006, 10:36 PM
I figured that these two friends who were telling me that you always tip everyone (unless they really really were horrible) were only feeling this way because they both worked in restaurants.

The same way that I always take my shopping cart to the return because when I was 17 I worked at a grocery store and had to bring carts in...

But it's a little odd that one of the guys who was telling me this was the one who I picked up a technique from that is about what you do Deanpaul, I circle the printed total, and then draw a line down through the tip line.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Famine on July 27, 2006, 10:57 PM
If the waitress is polite, or cordial, and does a good job, I always leave 20%. If I think the food is exceptional, I make sure I send a manager or greeter into the kitchen and tip the cooks.

I also make a point to ask if they pool their tips. If they pool their tips, I refuse to tip. Imagine if one girl works all night and busts her ass, and the other doesn't, she still makes half the money.

Kevin
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Ben on July 27, 2006, 11:23 PM
I tip in the following situations: bar, sit-down restaurant, haircut, and the pizza delivery dude. I usually don't go to buffets, but if I did, I'd tip just because they keep drinks full.

But, if I wait too long for anything, the tip isn't as big as it could be. And I can't see how baristas have the nerve to have a tip jar on the counter when I've driven to their palace of beans and waited for a beverage that they aren't offering free refills on.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Ben on July 27, 2006, 11:25 PM
Wow, I thought everyone tipped at a bar.  I always leave at least a dollar a drink plus whatever the spare change is.  And again, more if the bartender has boobies.  Tips always lead to faster service for me, so I'm more than happy to do it.  It gets me drunk faster.



I'm with you. Cute, flirty, and fast waitresses always get more from me.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Scott on July 27, 2006, 11:46 PM
How about haircuts?
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: R5Don4 on July 27, 2006, 11:53 PM
Okay, would you tip in this situation... you order a pizza from a place that offers in 30 minutes or free.  The delivery guy takes 31 minutes.  When you point it out to him he looks like he's going to cry.  Oh man, this happened to me one time, my girlfriend at the time had the place on the phone when he got there, she gave him the phone and his face just dropped and he ran out of our apartment before we could give him anything.  Man I felt like such a tool, but it's their policy not mine.  I don't know, I now make it a point of not getting pizza from places with policies like that.

Oh and I don't eat at buffets. :-X
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Famine on July 28, 2006, 12:04 AM
How about haircuts?

Depends on the haircut, I'd say.

Kevin
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Deanpaul on July 28, 2006, 12:08 AM
How about haircuts?

Yeah, I tip haircuts. In Minnesota I went to a place where the owner cut my hair, and I tipped him because I considered him a friend more than becuase it was customary.  I think I was tipping 3-5 dollars on a 15 dollar haircut.

In Utah, a woman (also a friend) cuts our hair and I tip her because I know she's having a hard time right now and because I feel her prices are a little low.  She's charging either 15 or 17 or 18, I honestly don't know because I've just been writing the check for 20 or 25 since we moved here in 2001. She worked with one other person when we first moved here, now she works out of her basement.

What about at the holidays?  Do you guys tip more for regular services (haircuts vs. eating out)?  Do you somehow acknowledge that it's more because of the holiday?  What about city workers, newspaper delivery or postal carriers?  I wish I did more at the holidays, but I'm not sure what is appropriate.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 28, 2006, 12:20 AM
What about scoring drugs? I'd say not tipping the lady who cut your hair is probably more dangerous than not tipping your pusher, though... I've always tipped about $5 for all of my haircuts, even the not-so-good ones.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Matt on July 28, 2006, 12:32 AM
How about haircuts?

Yeah, how about 'em?

As I mentioned here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12883.0), I've been shaving my head lately, so there's nobody for me to tip.

Instead, to show myself how much I appreciate what a good job I did, I'll usually just curl up with a good nudie mag and rub a couple out. 

Save myself a lot of money that way.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: efranks on July 28, 2006, 12:59 AM
If I'm in a restaurant I tip 20%, at a buffet it's usually a $1 or $2 depending. 

Bar?  I always tip the bartender.  You order a beer, toss and extra Washington his way and you're first up on the refill next time you hit the hardwood.  After that it's every couple beers and every mixed drink.

Pizza delivery guys always get a tip but I don't tip if I go and pick it up.  I usually tip for a haircut and that's definitely one where the tip is directly impacted by the job they do...more so than for a waiter/waitress or bartender or whatever.

That's about it.  I don't tip for anything else.  Beyond those situations it's just ridiculous.  I work in a "tech services" department and if I spend an hour on the phone fixing a broken network or 2 minutes telling someone to reboot I get paid the same, there's no tip for my service.  Most things, you do the job and you get paid.  If you aren't making enough, get a better job, don't ask me for extra money.

   E...
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Rob on July 28, 2006, 01:01 AM
I've always tipped for haircuts too - when I'm actually going to a barber or salon.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Tracy on July 28, 2006, 06:42 AM
How about haircuts?

Yeah, I tip haircuts. In Minnesota I went to a place where the owner cut my hair, and I tipped him because I considered him a friend more than becuase it was customary.  I think I was tipping 3-5 dollars on a 15 dollar haircut.


I tip haircuts too.  I read somewhere once that you tip for a haircut, unless its the owner, then you don't tip.  I never understood why, I still tip no matter who cuts my hair.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on July 28, 2006, 08:15 AM
It honestly never occured to me to tip when I pick something up myself.  I'm not trying to stiff anyone -- but how does ordering a pizza, me driving to get it, waiting around for them to finish it and then paying for it merit a tip for them?  What's difference between that and me walking up to the counter at any other food joint and ordering a salad/sandwich/pizza and having someone prepare it for me?   Must I tip everyone? ???

I'm with you here.  The tip line is on the reciept because it is on ALL reciepts.  A tip is for service.  Ringing me up is not a service.  If I sit in, I tip at least 20% and more for good service, and less for bad.  As long as a wait person makes sure my drink is full and that I have napkins, I am happy.  I don't see you during the meal at all? Your tip drops.  I hate it when people don't tip (when the service is good).  Wait people make a lower wage which is supplemented by tips.

As far as buffets go, I usually tip $1 per head.  They do very little service.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Deanpaul on July 28, 2006, 10:08 AM
It honestly never occured to me to tip when I pick something up myself.  I'm not trying to stiff anyone -- but how does ordering a pizza, me driving to get it, waiting around for them to finish it and then paying for it merit a tip for them?  What's difference between that and me walking up to the counter at any other food joint and ordering a salad/sandwich/pizza and having someone prepare it for me?   Must I tip everyone? ???

Are you saying you don't tip the cashier at the grocery store? Wow, that's just low. You obviously don't appreciate the service they're giving you.  >:(  Yeah, I'm with you.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Scott on July 28, 2006, 10:16 AM
The buffets I am thinking of are the ones that are totally self service where they only come and remove your dirty plates.  I usually don't tip those places

Haircuts is usually a buck

Takeout I don't tip

Curbside delivery I usually do a couple bucks

Here's another new one:

When I used to travel for my old job me and my coworker got in a big debate about tipping the cleanining person in your hotel room.  This would be if you stay more than 1 night at a spot

The other is the bus services that shuttle you back and forth to the airport

Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Xander on July 28, 2006, 10:41 AM
So here's my two cents  :-\

I'm with Morbug, I worked in a lot of restaurants while I was in school and after, and as a consequence I tend to tip pretty well. But I feel they need to earn it too, and don't automatically deserve it. I'm just pretty easy to please in that regard.

Sit down dinner it always 20% unless the service was bad (not the food), if there was attitude, etc.

Take out is a case by case basis. I usually throw in a buck. I know a fare share of restaurant workers/managers, and I feel compelled to tip just because I know what its like, and I'm picking up some slack for someone who didn't tip earlier when they should have. I don't expect everyone to, nor do I think its required in most cases. I can see why people have tip jars for take out. Some guy who splits the tip is still putting together a to-go order in place of an order of someone who may be sitting down for full service. Sure restaurants are set up for both take-out/sit down, but some people are doing the same work for either one. Again, I don't this is a requirement though. Maybe just a little token of appreciation if someone was prompt, helpful, etc, because we know how rare that can be.

I usually tip a buck even for a cup of coffee, if I sit down in the place.

Not all receipts have a tip line. It just depends.

Of course there are good reasons for not tipping.  I really can't stand attitude, so that right is the deciding factor.

Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Famine on July 28, 2006, 10:56 AM
How about gas station atendants? At full servce statuions?

Kevin
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 28, 2006, 01:13 PM
When I used to travel for my old job me and my coworker got in a big debate about tipping the cleanining person in your hotel room.  This would be if you stay more than 1 night at a spot

Meh. Here lately, anytime I go to a hotel they're real serious dicks about not giving me any fresh towels... I'm not reusing my ******* towels so that they can save a few dimes by not doing laundry. It's bad enough that I have to be suspicious of the sheets, now I have to worry about the towels?
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Deanpaul on July 28, 2006, 01:18 PM
Of course there are good reasons for not tipping.  I really can't stand attitude, so that right is the deciding factor.

How do you let them know their service / attitude / whatever was the reason for not leaving a tip?  If you're making a point, how do you know they get it?

I wonder about that sometimes.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: stormie on July 28, 2006, 01:51 PM
I usually do 15% tip at sit-down, full-service restaurants (I should do 20% because it's easier math, but I'm an old dog and that's a new trick), but places like buffets (like FreshChoice) where there is no service, I don't leave anything. Delivery gets a small tip; haircuts, too, but a little larger. Pickup and coffee/beverage places don't get a tip from me because I feel I'm doing all the work. Bartenders ALWAYS get a tip of at least a buck. There's no better way to assure good, fast drinks than to keep your bartender/cocktail waitstaff happy. Plus, a few pops in me makes me pretty loose with the bills.

The trouble I have with tipping is in circumstances where I'm not paying for anything. We recently went to a one-year-old's b-day party and there was a clown (Sparkles). She made simple balloon animals and did some minimal face painting. I had to ask the host if we were supposed to tip her because I really had no clue (nor did I have any cash). The answer was a firm "no," because the clown was being paid $200 for the party (1 1/2 hours of "work"--I'm in the wrong field). But If I hadn't asked the host, I might have been inclined to slip Sparkles a twenty. I wonder what kind of balloon animals we would've gotten with a twenty...

And what about the baggers at grocery stores that help you push your cart to your car? I never have them help me, but my wife has occasionally needed their help when she has both kids and a ton of groceries. She'd never tip, but put in the same position, I might be inclined to tip a buck or two.

And how much for simple, free valet service? I say a buck.

Or at a parking garage where they're already reaming you for parking your car for an hour? Depends on my mood, but mostly it's a no. 
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 28, 2006, 02:04 PM
Of course there are good reasons for not tipping.  I really can't stand attitude, so that right is the deciding factor.

How do you let them know their service / attitude / whatever was the reason for not leaving a tip?  If you're making a point, how do you know they get it?

I wonder about that sometimes.

Well I definately just tell them they suck when they do...how else will folks learn then from hearing it? I' ve done my time in this business and know what it takes to 'earn' extra cash. People willing to put forth the effort deserve more/ there's also being too attentitive and annoying-in this case I'll tip sparely but mention the 'flaw' to the person stating how 'if I could carry on a conversation without you interrupting me every minute Ect...you could have gotten more tip'.

Haircuts- 1$ to 5$ depending on how much 'repair' I have to do at home if any
Take out, no
Grocery Store-they bag it and take it to my car/truck-- 1$ to 3$ depending on how much grocery. If I get one or 2 items = no tip ::)
Pizza guy? he drives 2 blocks to my place= .50 to 1.50$
Dining Out? Tax + extra depending on service of course

It's kind harsh/hard to judge a person on his/her tipping habits isn't it? There's so much variance in here. Some folks would rather have someone coming to them every minute asking them something(the attention is good for them?), I'm the opposite.

Gas station attendant? ::) :P
I can pump my own ******* gas and I don't have a maid at home either.(= never use, so no tip)

How about a tip for the newspaper guy? Same thing here tips are low or absent when papers are delivered questionably close to neighbors' yard(so he can steal it, and the bastard does) in water ect. Tell them(paper boy) they suck then tell them how they can not suck/make tip money if need be.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 28, 2006, 02:13 PM
That's a good point about the grocery stores Bob. On my military installation at the 'commissary' there's a gang of kids ready to push your grocery carts to your car--they work for tips only :-\. I rarely see folks pushing their own carts even when they have there own kids/spouses with them. Sure we all could do it but I'd like see my own kids working there someday soon so I'm all about paying some money for the kids to push to my car. How much? Depends on how far away I parked/how much grocery to push. 
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on July 28, 2006, 02:53 PM
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And what about the baggers at grocery stores that help you push your cart to your car? I never have them help me, but my wife has occasionally needed their help when she has both kids and a ton of groceries. She'd never tip, but put in the same position, I might be inclined to tip a buck or two.



My companies policy on getting tips from customers is to not accept them and if for whatever reason they leave you a tip the money belongs to the company and not you.  Not sure what other companies out there allow their employeesas far as taking tips for helping people out with their grociers, I know my company says how good we get paid and helping people out is part of the wages baggers make, which sucks since its about $6.75 then  7.40 after 9 months and most of them only work 20 or so hours a week.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Tracy on July 28, 2006, 03:02 PM
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And what about the baggers at grocery stores that help you push your cart to your car? I never have them help me, but my wife has occasionally needed their help when she has both kids and a ton of groceries. She'd never tip, but put in the same position, I might be inclined to tip a buck or two.



My companies policy on getting tips from customers is to not accept them and if for whatever reason they leave you a tip the money belongs to the company and not you.  Not sure what other companies out there allow their employeesas far as taking tips for helping people out with their grociers, I know my company says how good we get paid and helping people out is part of the wages baggers make, which sucks since its about $6.75 then  7.40 after 9 months and most of them only work 20 or so hours a week.

I asked at a couple of our grocery chains -- we were told the same thing by the guys who bag the groceries and take them out.  I rarely accept their offer of help anyway.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: nitro on July 28, 2006, 03:42 PM
That whole grocery store thing is just a blatant PR move on behalf of the big wigs at supermarket chains. When I got my first job at a supermarket when I turned 16, I was told by management on day 1 that tips from customers were not allowed and we were trained to politely refrain from excepting tips. When I moved into a different department (bakery), customers would leave tips on the counter (we had no tip cups). We'd use the tips the customers would leave on buying some drinks like a soda or water for our department. I never understood the mentality of telling your employees (especially those making minimum wage) that they could not accept money for providing an extra service. I guess they don't want the tipping to get out of hand so customers feel obligated to tip, but tell that to someone back in the day where minimum wage was $5.50 an hour.

Here's what I tip:
Restaurants: 20%. I never had any problems with service (knock on wood) but even still I would never screw someone else who has a cut in the tip because of one person.

Barber: $5 each time I go (usually every 3 weeks)...haircuts cost $12 but you have to realize that your haircut is an extension of your appearance...you get what you pay for and your barber remembers you for it.

Also, I tip maybe a dollar or two if my car gets valeted at a local eatery or at the greyhound park. Other than that, I think it's about it...

Take out service and "do it yourself" buffets, I never tip...
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 28, 2006, 06:06 PM
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And what about the baggers at grocery stores that help you push your cart to your car? I never have them help me, but my wife has occasionally needed their help when she has both kids and a ton of groceries. She'd never tip, but put in the same position, I might be inclined to tip a buck or two.



My companies policy on getting tips from customers is to not accept them and if for whatever reason they leave you a tip the money belongs to the company and not you.  Not sure what other companies out there allow their employeesas far as taking tips for helping people out with their grociers, I know my company says how good we get paid and helping people out is part of the wages baggers make, which sucks since its about $6.75 then  7.40 after 9 months and most of them only work 20 or so hours a week.

I asked at a couple of our grocery chains -- we were told the same thing by the guys who bag the groceries and take them out.  I rarely accept their offer of help anyway.

That's interesting information..and BAD >:(. At least here on the government installation, kids get to work for their tips since they don't get paid any other money.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Deanpaul on July 28, 2006, 11:29 PM
I never understood the mentality of telling your employees (especially those making minimum wage) that they could not accept money for providing an extra service. I guess they don't want the tipping to get out of hand so customers feel obligated to tip, but tell that to someone back in the day where minimum wage was $5.50 an hour.

I'd guess that companies feel if customers are paying money as a tip to their employees it leaves less money for the customer to spend on products. May not seem like a big deal, but it would add up over time.

I think you're right about a corporate culture of employees soliciting tips possibly making customers feel uncomfortable in the long run.

Talk about extortion tipping, the taxi cab companies excel at that. I don't mind tipping, but the cabbies I've had lately have left a lot to be desired. Yet, they behave as if the tip is expected as their pay separate from their attention or level of service. I've had some great cab drivers in the past, but the recent bad ones have been stereotypical drivers in NYC and Las Vegas.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 29, 2006, 01:16 AM
I've had some great cab drivers in the past, but the recent bad ones have been stereotypical drivers in NYC and Las Vegas.

So...did you tip these cabs as well?
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: DrunkJedi on July 29, 2006, 10:51 AM
Take out and buffet I usually never tip. If I'm at a buffet and the waitress is really cute, I will tip.

Restaurants I always leave a tip.

How much I tip depends on service, waitress' attitude and her looks  ;) Largest tip I ever gave was $50. The restaurant I was in at the time, the spot they had the debit machine set up was not visible by customers and the waitress decided to flash me while we were back there. I figured a $50 tip was the least I could do. To bad I didn't live in that city or else I woulda tried to get her phone number.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: name on July 30, 2006, 10:53 PM
When I used to travel for my old job me and my coworker got in a big debate about tipping the cleanining person in your hotel room.  This would be if you stay more than 1 night at a spot

The other is the bus services that shuttle you back and forth to the airport



Airport shuttle - a buck or two.  Maybe more if the bus was really loaded.  They're usually very helpful guys...

Bellhop at the hotel - buck per bag if I needed his help.  Just a buck or two if all I need was for him to store/retrieve my luggage when the conference ran past checkout.

Housekeeping - a dollar per night.


I didn't know that bagboys still pushed your cart to the car anymore. 
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Tracy on July 31, 2006, 06:18 AM
I didn't know that bagboys still pushed your cart to the car anymore. 

They do if you're cute, flirt a lot and show 'em some cleavage ;)
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Neal on July 31, 2006, 08:22 AM
They do if you're cute, flirt a lot and show 'em some cleavage ;)

Yeah ... that doesn't work for me.
 ;)
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: name on July 31, 2006, 09:26 AM
I didn't know that bagboys still pushed your cart to the car anymore. 

They do if you're cute, flirt a lot and show 'em some cleavage ;)

do that for me and I might push your groceries to that car....
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: john todd on August 1, 2006, 03:16 PM
i might put my bicycle in her trunk too.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 03:34 PM
I always tip where it's expected because I spent a large part of my youth working for tips and it really sucks when someone stiffs you.

Restaurants:  At least 15%, but 20 or more for great service.  If they really went out of their way, I think it has to be at least 20%, especially if you're in a group and they still were awesome.  When they tack on that automatic 18%, if they were really great, I still chip in more.

Delivery guys:  I've been a pizza guy so I ALWAYS tip, even if they aren't fast. If you're a regular pizza orderer from that place, it'll mean everything from your house becoming known as "one that tips" (some drivers will bring your pie before other homes sometimes) and if you're a longtime regular, sometimes it even gets you better pizza.

Cabbies:  I'm not a big fan of tipping them a ton (I actually had one tell me I wasn't tipping him enough once)...but I do. The only time they get a great tip is if they drive how I ask them to (like..."go fast").

Bartenders:  Of course.  It's stupid not to if you want a good drink or fast service.

Drink girls in Vegas:  They're bringing you a free drink, you have to.

Blackjack Dealers:  Only if I'm winning though.  I guess that's wrong.

Tour Guides:  I climbed Mt. Rainier a few years ago and found out at the end that I was expected to tip the guy I had just paid 600 bucks to guide me up the mountain.  I mailed it to him, but that one shocked me.  I've decided my stance is if I got a lot of personal attention on the tour (like a van tour) I'll tip, but if I was on a bus with 40 people...nah.

Hotel maids:  I dated one in high school and she told me it's really nice when you leave a tip in the room.  The weird thing is when to leave it.  She says daily, so I always leave some out for the maid.  In Vegas, they only take it half the time (I think because everyone leaves cash in the rooms there) but in other cities, it's always taken.


Here's who I don't tip:

Skycab:  I see these guys like doormen, but I recently found out you can only use them IF you tip them.  Since Sept. 11th, they stopped saving me time (too much security), so I never accept their help anymore.

Doormen:  I almost never tip that guy at a hotel (especially the vegas ones) that opens the cab door for you. That is a retarded expectation. Unless I'm drunk.  If I actually ASK for their help (like, here...help me with my suitcase) then I'll tip them, but if they take it or something, I don't want their help and I won't pay for it.

Hotel front desk clerks:  I've heard you can get a better room if you tip them.  It's never worked, so I don't do it anymore.

Restaurant Hosts:  Again, I'm not a high roller I guess, but tipping these guys is not something I do.

Fast food workers who put a cup on the counter.  Sorry.  Unless you brought me my food, you didn't perform an extra service.  I'm not putting something in the cup just because you rang up my burger.

Starbucks employees:  Same deal as fast food.  I used to tip when I was a regular at the little mom and pop shacks, but I don't tip Starbucks counter people these days when I occasionally buy coffee.   I used to, but I stopped when I stopped being a regular because I don't see the point anymore.

Bums:  I know it's not tipping, but I'm not fond of giving out money to beggars or the "Will Work for food" guys.  I rarely do it and when I do, it's because of a special circumstance (like a really funny sign, or a genuniely needy looking person).

Strippers:  Yes, this is a funny one...but some strippers actually expect you to tip em.  Not a chance.  The only time I'll give them extra money is if I'm in that front row, and that's because a dollar bill is an incentive to bring them over my way.

Street Performers:  Only if I stop to watch the show for a few minutes.






Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Darth Slothus on August 2, 2006, 03:45 PM
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Fast food workers who put a cup on the counter.  Sorry.  Unless you brought me my food, you didn't perform an extra service.  I'm not putting something in the cup just because you rang up my burger.




Yes...A real joke? Seeing that tip jar on the counter at Subway's ::)
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 2, 2006, 05:13 PM
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Yes...A real joke? Seeing that tip jar on the counter at Subway's

True dat.  I mean, it's not like they are going to make your sandwich better for you if you tip.  The two things I really like (meat and cheese) cost extra, and I get the same amount with or without the tip.

Assembly line food prep like that isn't really above and beyond.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on August 3, 2006, 08:48 AM

Strippers:  Yes, this is a funny one...but some strippers actually expect you to tip em.  Not a chance.  The only time I'll give them extra money is if I'm in that front row, and that's because a dollar bill is an incentive to bring them over my way.


I don't frequent strip clubs, in fact I haven't been in close to ten years.  Last time I went was a bachelor party, and one of the other party goers who was a "regular" at the club chastised a friend and me for having bad "ettiquitte" for just sitting back and having a few drinks and watching from a distance.  I don't need to pay a woman a buck to act like she likes me.  It was laughable.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on August 3, 2006, 08:50 AM
ESPECIALLY at Subway.  The cuts are pre-divided into serving sizes for each sandwich.  I do tip at this pizza/grinder restaurant I go to because once you get a rep, then your grinders are loaded.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Jeff on August 3, 2006, 09:46 AM
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Me and Mr. Pink, we're a lot alike...

"I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job. "
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: Phrubruh on August 3, 2006, 10:13 AM
So what do you tip at a Koren bar-b-que? Here you have to get your food and cook it yourself! I guess drinks are the only thing they bring.

I know whenever I get crappy service, I put down on the tip line one cent. The manager sees all credit card receipts and really notices someone got bad service when they only leave one cent as a tip.
Title: Re: Do You Tip?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 3, 2006, 12:17 PM
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I don't frequent strip clubs, in fact I haven't been in close to ten years.  Last time I went was a bachelor party, and one of the other party goers who was a "regular" at the club chastised a friend and me for having bad "ettiquitte" for just sitting back and having a few drinks and watching from a distance.  I don't need to pay a woman a buck to act like she likes me.  It was laughable.

My friends and I tend to go whenever we go to Vegas, so I've been quite a few times.  The dollar bills don't really bother me, because if you're sitting in that front row and you have a buck, you'll get a little bit better show for that dollar.

However, when some stripper sits down next to you to start talking and the waitress comes around to say "Would you like to buy her a drink?", I never say yes.  They all drink for free, so when you buy them one.....it's just paying them to talk to you.  That's stupid, because if you're going to pay them, it's not to talk to you.

Generally when I go I like to sit back and watch the show, and it's actually fun to say "no" to a bunch of a pretty girls all night long.  I figure over the years, I've totally made up for high school.  ;)


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I know whenever I get crappy service, I put down on the tip line one cent. The manager sees all credit card receipts and really notices someone got bad service when they only leave one cent as a tip.

I almost never do this, unless it's absolutely the server's fault.  If the food is late, but they told me why, etc, etc....I still tip.

The worst tip I ever left in my life was at one of the most expensive restaurants I've ever eaten at.  My friends and I went to the top of the Stratosphere in Vegas (we had a reservation) and weren't dressed to the nines.  They wanted to sit us by the inside, we had reserved a window table and wanted to wait for one.  They weren't busy at all, but our waitress clearly did not want to seat us on the outside table.

When they finally did....we waited forever for her to finally take our order, and when she did, we didn't see her again with coffee or water until dinner came.  She didn't have a lot of tables, she was just angry at us.  Between the three of us, we ordered 300 dollars worth of food, and she came back with the bill in the middle of dinner.  We said "We're going to want dessert too", and she disappeared after that.

We never saw her again, so the busboy had to take our order for dessert and bring our bill.  I tipped him separately, but I wrote on the check "Denny's tip for Denny's service" and left 5 bucks.