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Title: When They Were Funny...
Post by: SilverZ on March 11, 2004, 07:27 PM
For some reason a stupid phrase just popped into my head:

Goonie Googoo.

And I thought to myself, "Man, Eddie Murphy: Delirious was really funny." And I thought about how many quotable lines were in that stand-up movie, and how, even by today's standards, its fresh, topical, adult, and FUNNY. There was so much going for him in about 1982-1986. You had SNL, Delirious, Beverly Hills Cop I, Trading Places, and 48 Hours.

Then I thought "Man, he really sucks now." Haunted Mansion. Pluto Nash? Ugh. What happened to this guy? He turned into the exact same thing he used to make fun of Bill Cosby for in Delirious.

It's happened to a lot of others. "Hey, whhhaaa happened?"  ;)

Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: JediMAC on March 11, 2004, 07:43 PM
Aunt Bunnie!   8)

Doo doo...  Gonna put it oooonnn yoooouuu...   ;D

Too true...  Eddie was like a god back then in the 80's.  I spent several years doing nothing but quoting his first two comedy routines - Eddie Murphy and Comedian.  Those were classic!  Started to go a little wrong when he hit Raw though...   :-\

Same went for his movies.  Loved all that early stuff.  Classic comedy, and totally "real".  Then things just started changing around the time of Boomerang, or thereabouts...

Miss the old Eddie.   :'(  Are either of his first two comedy routines on DVD?  Were they even taped live, I don't remember...  I just had the tape cassettes.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: SilverZ on March 11, 2004, 09:11 PM
Yeah, word is they're outright owned by Eddie, and we may never see them again. Lame.

Dan Akroyd went the same way. Hard to believe that big tub of a man that hasn't done anything in years wrote Blues Brothers and Ghostbusters.  :(
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on March 11, 2004, 09:55 PM
Bill Murray. Not so much a stand up comedian or the like, but it just seems to me that he;s going down hill.

His performance in the overrated comedy movie "Lost in Translation" wasn't so much a performance, but art imitating life. He looks so dejected, and cumbersome in public, like someone ran over his wife and his dog in the same day.

Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Scott on March 11, 2004, 10:51 PM
Blasphemy...I thought his performance was wonderful, I've said it a few times, he makes the people he acts with laugh because 95% of the time he's making **** up as he goes.  He's been in some stinkers for sure the last couple of years but he was perfect in LiT

My pick...Turtle Turtle Turtle

(http://www.extratv.com/images/02/07/31carvey_200.jpg)

You look at Mike Myers who was able to go on and do huge stuff at the movies...and then there's Dana Carvey, man what the hell was I thinking when I thought he was actually funny at one moment in time
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Matt on March 12, 2004, 12:24 AM
Bill Murray. Not so much a stand up comedian or the like, but it just seems to me that he;s going down hill.

His performance in the overrated comedy movie "Lost in Translation" wasn't so much a performance, but art imitating life. He looks so dejected, and cumbersome in public, like someone ran over his wife and his dog in the same day.

That's the idea.

Well, Lost in Translation was certainly no Cat in the Hat, but Bill was great in it regardless.

The only problem with Lost is that they decided to market it as a comedy, instead of the drama it is.

He's done some of the best work of his life over the past few years--see Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums for further proof.  The next Wes Anderson flick, The Life Aquatic, starring Bill as a European oceanographer, should be fantastic.

It'll still suck compared to 2F2F, though, be sure of that. . .
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Jesse James on March 12, 2004, 04:05 AM
I agree that I think Bill Murray's still got it...  The guy's just funny as hell, and is said to be a real genuine fellow in Hollywood.  NOt a snotwad like some turn into...

Speaking of snotwads who were once funny, and probably decent people...  Why hasn't anyone mentioned Chevy Chase?

Short of X-Mas Vacation, I can't think of a remotely modern film that Chase was in that was funny, and on top of it he's a royal prick they say.  Very self-absorbed.

The Dan Akroyd mention was spooky because I was just commenting the other day about how he's gone down hill.  I like him, and I think he CAN be funny, but he's just lost it over the years.

I think Dana Carvey was and IS funny when he wants to be, but he's tried too hard to reinvent himself.  He has too much pride to go back to SNL...  He should though.  They lack the impersonation talent he brought to the table with Phil Hartman.  I think if he returned he could at least be semi-popular again...  Can't hurt him anyway since he appears to have hit bottom.  He's doing a Tostitos commercial now or something I mean, god...  Short of working with ALF on a 10-10-220 commercial, he truly has hit rock bottom.

Doing any work with ALF is the social equivalent to getting on an airplane with Ernest Borgnine...  You're doomed if you do it.  That plane will inevitably crash.

Other unfunny people are...

Jay Leno...  If you saw his stand-up from when he was young, you know what I mean.  He was funny at one time.

Jimmy Kimmel...  Jimmy is funny, but the Manshow was his bread and butter.  His talkshow sucks because he is too "good" on it.  

And Bob Saget...  now, I know what you're thinking...  This guy lost it years ago, and I agree that he did.  He lost it when he got on Full House and/or America's Funniest Home Videos.  But if you saw his early standup, the guy was a foul-mouthed funnyman.  It was hysterical, and he was genuinely good.  He toned himself down for TV though, and he sucked.

Tim Allen...  Same as above.  Home improvement was funny till every other episode was "A very special episode" crap because that woman he co-starred was writing/producing it or something.  She turned it serious, and in turn she turned Tim Allen into a puss.  This was a guy who sold coke for god's sake!  Tim Allen was hardcore stand-up...  Not just foul, but genuinely funny...  Anyone remember the joke about how unattractive guys were naked and bent down working on something like the toilet?  Wife walks in and says "Who let a goat in!?  Good God!"  

That was funny stuff, but he lost it when he got on TV.  :(
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: DSJ™ on March 12, 2004, 09:16 AM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Robin Williams.

(http://www.tripletsandus.com/80s/shows/mork.jpg)

Now back in the old days, Robin was just plain nutso bozo. Started out on Happy Days as Mork then got his own sitcom, Mork & Mindy. His early comedy routines were a laugh a second, always had me in tears.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Scott on March 12, 2004, 09:44 AM
(http://www.dea.gov/pubs/intel/01020/cocainecover.jpg)

Laying off Cocaine does that to people
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: DSJ™ on March 12, 2004, 11:00 AM
Ah yes, Plutonium Nyborg, Devils Dandruff, Peruvian marching powder. They say Robin snorted with John Belushi before his death.  :-\
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Brian on March 12, 2004, 11:23 AM
Good topic, and I agree with most of the people mentioned here.  I remember when I was younger, I thought Dana Carvey was hilarious, but now he just makes me sad.  I agree, I think he probably still is funny...but just in the wrong places now.  He belongs on something like SNL, but unfortunately probably won't ever go back.

Eddie Murphy...good call on that one.  What happened to this guy?  He was very funny, and still can be (I might be stupid, but I get a kick out of him in Shrek)...but in movies where he actually appears...yikes.  He has had some real stinkers over the recent years.

Robin Williams...I'm not sure about him either.  I think he is probably one of the funniest guys around, or at least was.  His old comedy stuff is really good, but anymore when I see him he just seems a little....too much, for me at least.

Bill Murray...I think he still has it.  I always enjoy his movies (haven't seen LiT though), but he was great in the Royal Tenenbaums (under rated movie I think).  I'll still always remember him mostly from SNL, Caddyshack, and Ghostbusters...but he's done some other good movies too.

Chevy Chase is someone I really enjoy, when he was at his best.  Christmas Vacation is one of our all-time favorite movies...and definitely my favorite of his.  The other "vacation" movies aren't too bad either.  Caddyshack, of course, is great too.  Just happened to see him in Funny Farm on TBS a week or so ago, I haven't seen that movie in a long time.  He's got some other movies that aren't bad, I know a lot of people are fans of Fletch, although I don't know if I have ever seen the whole movie.  Its too bad to hear he is a prick in real life, he's one of those guys you hope are nice in real life.  For some reason I still get a kick out of the video for "Call Me Al" with him and Paul Simon, not sure why, just seems funny to me.

Tim Allen...I agree with what everyone has said.  He is a really funny guy, and I used to watch Home Improvement quite a bit when it started and I was younger.  As the show went on, it got un-funny to me.  Some of his movies are not too bad though, no classics mind you...but watchable, at least to me.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Mikey D on March 12, 2004, 11:31 AM
When was the last time Robin Williams actually had a funny movie, Mrs. Doubtfire?  That was almost ten years ago.  I will say this, for some one who is labeled as a comedian, his dramatic work is pretty good.  Dead Poets Society and Good Will Hunting are both excellent flicks.  Insomnia and One Hour Photo weren't as good, but not horrible IMO.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on March 12, 2004, 11:55 AM
That's the idea.

Well, Lost in Translation was certainly no Cat in the Hat, but Bill was great in it regardless.

The only problem with Lost is that they decided to market it as a comedy, instead of the drama it is.

He's done some of the best work of his life over the past few years--see Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums for further proof.  The next Wes Anderson flick, The Life Aquatic, starring Bill as a European oceanographer, should be fantastic.

It'll still suck compared to 2F2F, though, be sure of that. . .

The idea that he's a has been? He's had 2 decent movies of the past 8 roles he's taken on in 6 years, "Rushmore" included. He's just putting the final nail in his coffin with "Garfield", and it's a poor career move after "Osmosis Jones" which everyone seems to be overlooking.

"Lost in Translation" was overrated, pretentious, and bratty.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Scott on March 12, 2004, 12:14 PM
To each there own...

Heard this on the radio this morning Entertainment Weekly that bastion of Comedic Wherewithall named the following as funniest people in America:

#1 Chris Rock
#2 Jon Stewart
#3 Will Ferrell
#4 Larry David
#5 Dave Chappelle
#6 Ellen DeGeneres
#7 Bill Murray (not sure if this counts LiT or not)
#8 Jim Carrey
#9 Jack Black
#10
#11 Dave Letterman

Not listed: Jay Leno

CNN only had these listed (as did the radio) I wonder where Conan ranks
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Brian on March 12, 2004, 12:22 PM
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CNN only had these listed (as did the radio) I wonder where Conan ranks

That's a good point Scott, I think that Conan is one of the funniest guys on TV.  I find myself laughing every time I watch his show, just his little comments and quips that he rattles off quick, and the way he makes fun of himself.  His style of humor is just funny to me I guess.  Interesting list overall though.....
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Matt on March 12, 2004, 12:58 PM
"Lost in Translation" was overrated, pretentious, and bratty.

You're right.  I have seen the light.

Cat in the Hat got dicked-over for the Oscars, and Temeurueuua Morrison would have gotten dicked-over, too--if he did any movies last year at all.  I forgot.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Jesse James on March 12, 2004, 01:48 PM
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#1 Chris Rock
#2 Jon Stewart
#3 Will Ferrell
#4 Larry David
#5 Dave Chappelle
#6 Ellen DeGeneres
#7 Bill Murray (not sure if this counts LiT or not)
#8 Jim Carrey
#9 Jack Black
#10
#11 Dave Letterman

Chris Rock is overrated...  I think he's funny, but not $90 a ticket funny, ya know?  I'd pay $90 to see Lewis Black or Dave Attel, or Dave Chapelle first.  All 3 Comedy Central Vets, and all 3 damn funny comedians.

Jon Stewart I'll go with...  He's a pretty funny guy overall, and definitely a plus on the Daily Show.  Comedy Central has a few shows that I wno't miss ever right now, including the Daily Show, Chapelle, Insomniac...  Good stuff.

Ferrel is funny, but was funnier on SNL.  He was good in Old School, but crap like Elf is going to ruin his career.  He's a guy who needed to stay on SNL.  With him gone, that show's gone off the face of the Earth.  I always picture Lorn Michaels offering to get these comics on SNL hookers and booze if they'll just stay, and them walking out with him on his hands and knees begging.  Usually both end up in the crapper afterward too.

Larry David...  I'd comment if I could tell you who he is.  As I don't have a clue off-hand who he is, and I like to consider myself a comic conneseur of sorts, then I think he's not worthy of that title.  Could be wrong...  He's not that guy with the HBO series is he?

Dave Chappelle...  Damn funny.  He should be higher than that though.  The guy is a riot, and he's just getting started with his show on CC.  "I'm Rick James Bitch!"  

Ellen Degeneres...  Funny before gay.  Show sucked after she came out because it REVOLVED around her gayness (it didn't flop because of anti-gay sentiment, and that's BS when she claims it did).  I've seen her standup since and it's passable but I'd never rate her in the top 10 or whatever...  This was a sympathy "We love Gays" move by that lameass magazine, plain and simple.

Bill Murray...  I like Bill still, but he's hardly a "Comedian" anymore.  This was only listed because of Lost in Translation.  Nothing more, nothing less.  I think he's still funny, no doubt, but he shouldn't even be on this list.

Jim Carrey...  Was he really funny in the first place?  Ok, that's harsh, and he was mildly entertaining on In Living Color...  Beyond that, he's not that funny.  The poor man's Robin Williams.  

Jack Black...  Someone shoot me.  This douche makes it in the top 10 or whatever?  I have a friend who looks and acts just like Jack Black.  Being fat, obnoxious, and unkempt isn't funny.  It's especially not funny when you're out at Chiji's and your Jack Black friend is there with sauce dripping down his shirt right before you're going out.  

Nobody for 10?

David Letterman...  For him to be put ahead of Conan O'Brien is a travesty.  For him to be ahead of Lewis Black is a travesty...  And to even label him a COMIC is a travesty.  His show isn't interesting, just like Leno's, and he isn't particularly interesting as a person either.  I'd have put Howard Stern ahead of him, and Howard's not even a comic either.  They both have pretty much the same job, and Howard does his better.

I'm surprised George Carlin isn't listed...  Carlin still has it when he wants to make the crowd go nuts.  

And where's Colin Quinn?  Or half the regulars on Tough Crowd like Nick DePalo?  

I think a lot of that list is simply ass kissing on the part of who wrote it.  Blah...  It's unfair to REAL comics that are genuinely funny and working hard.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Scott on March 12, 2004, 01:55 PM
They didn't have a #10 on the list at CNN (or on the radio this morning)

Larry David was the head writer on Seinfeld for long time, he's on Curb Your Enthusiasm right now
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Force Guy on March 12, 2004, 02:11 PM
He looks so dejected, and cumbersome in public, like someone ran over his wife and his dog in the same day.

I've never heard anyone use the word cumbersome to describe the way someone looked.  
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Fettish Sez Thanks on March 12, 2004, 04:18 PM
"Lost in Translation" was overrated, pretentious, and bratty.

You're right.  I have seen the light.

Cat in the Hat got dicked-over for the Oscars, and Temeurueuua Morrison would have gotten dicked-over, too--if he did any movies last year at all.  I forgot.

I totally acknowledge and respect that you've played your way into everyone's hearts with your signature ******* routine, but honestly. Not once did I provoke you to attack me and my personal taste. Did a strike a nerve in your indy film loving heart or what?

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I've never heard anyone use the word cumbersome to describe the way someone looked.  

Cumbersome, ponderous. Take your pick.

From JediMAC: Just cleanin' up a little...   ;)
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: JediMAC on March 12, 2004, 04:34 PM
OK, OK...  We know some people aren't other people's biggest fans.  Let's try and play nice pretty please!   :-*

Thank ya'.

On a separate note, my wife actually sort of mocked Chris Rock a couple years ago (in front of him).  We were at the House of Blues in their fancy, private Foundation Room for our company's Holiday Party, and Chris Rock was sitting with a couple people at the very next table.  This was shortly after Dr. Doolittle had come out, where they ran that same ad over, and over, and over where the gerbil (Chris Rock) yells "I have just been violated!" after getting probed by Eddie's finger...   :P

For some reason we always got a kick out of that line, and Patty would often repeat it in her best Chris Rock voice, which was surprisingly pretty spot on.  So of course after downing a few at the party, and with Rock sitting right next to us about 10 feet away, she shouted it pretty loud to see if he would notice.  He did, and cracked a big smile in her direction.  Pretty funny, but I guess you probably had to be there.   :P

I think Chris is definitely one of the funniest guys out there still.  A lot of his stuff reminds me of the old Eddie...
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: SilverZ on March 12, 2004, 05:15 PM
"Alright, how much for jus one rib?"

Yeah, Chris Rock doesn't have a lot of range, but he's still funny to me.

Another sort of sad decline into unfunniness is Mel Brooks. The man that gave us History of the World Part 1, Young Frankenstein, The Producers, and Blazing Saddles! Spaceballs was the last decent movie, and I use that generously, that he did. Sometime during the 80's (I think it was Airplane and Top Secret! that made him compete, poorly) he just ceased being funny. Then we got Life Stinks, Robin Hood: Men in Tights, and Dracula: Dead and Loving It. Yikes.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Matt on March 13, 2004, 12:10 AM
Did a strike a nerve in your indy film loving heart or what?

Yes.  Yes you did.  If, by "indy film loving", you mean this guy:

(http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/tz/top.indiana.jones.afp.jpg)

But I think maybe you meant to say "indie film loving"--which, in that case, you are correct, sir.  You totally struck a nerve in my indie film loving heart.  (Do hearts have nerve endings, anyway?)

My indie-film-loving heart's four favorite movies of all time:  Star Wars, Raiders, E.T., and Die Hard.  Totally indie.  

I only see films that the local art house is showing.  I only watch the IFC, and I've been to Sundance six years in a row.

No, Cory, I just find it odd that a guy who. . .


Owns cinematicrap like 2Fast2Furious(to name a few) was trying to let everyone know that a pretty good actor sucks, as well as the pretty good film that he had starred in.

Yeah, opinions are opinions, Cory, and my opinion is, your opinions regarding movies suck.  How's that grab ya?

So, you've deleted your account now--and that's cool and all, but, until you come back (and you will, shortly). . .  buh-bye.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Jesse James on March 13, 2004, 01:30 AM
Mel Brooks is a good one...  Never would've thought of him.

Martin Short's a very unfunny person.  Was he ever though?

And Steve Martin could be tacked onto that, but he was funny in that movie he made  with Eddie Murphy.  Actually Eddie Murphy wasn't bad in that come to think of it...

Bowfinger it was maybe?

Rosie O'Donnel was funny at one time.  She's just scary now.

I'd say the CURRENT cast of SNL but they sucked from the start.  
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: SilverZ on March 13, 2004, 05:42 PM
Hmmm, yeah, Steve Martin. That's a tough one. I'm always frustrated that he rarely makes his own movies like Roxanne and LA Story, which are both great to me. Most of his movies (apart from the "vintage" ones) are pretty stinky otherwise, deadly unfunny. A lot of people don't find him funny, ever. That's fine, too.

I remember Martin Short's big comedy break-out was going to be Three Amigos. Boy, that panned out. What was that movie where he played a little kid, and his dad was Charles Grodin?  :-\ Mucho Poopy.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: DSJ™ on March 13, 2004, 05:46 PM
That would me the movie Clifford.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Force Guy on March 16, 2004, 12:34 PM
No, Cory, I just find it odd that a guy who. . .

  • calls himself "Cinemaddiction"

Owns cinematicrap like 2Fast2Furious
  • Can't wait to buy The Cat in the Hat
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You're right.  I have seen the light.

Cat in the Hat got dicked-over for the Oscars

I'm afraid our sensitive bounty-hunter-lovin' friend, Cory "Siskel" H., has changed his mind yet again.....

"Well, I've officially decided not to get "Cat in the Hat" after all." - Sanford, 3/15/04



Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: CLH on March 24, 2004, 10:40 PM
I'm coming back for an extremely limited engagement, so long as to just address the issue that drove me away from the site for good.

* I did indeed mean "Indy", Matt. I think the Indiana Jones Trilogy components are 3 of the most over-rated, and boring movies ever made. That's my opinion, which I expect everyone to respect, without going ape**** on me.

* In regards to opinions, I put mine on the table, and it got attacked. You obviously can't respect my opinion because it's just your nature to strike back at anyone, myself in particular, that has extremely eclectic tastes, and extreme opinions.

You didn't respect mine. I went against the grain, and said what so many other people want to say, in that "LiT" was overrated, and that Bill Murray has lost his touch. Is it that I am just too critical, or is everyone else too oblivious to the fact that he hasn't "acted" since maybe "Rushmore"?

That said, you reach deep down into your bag o' sarcasm and pull out an atypical Jango Fett rib. It's old, it's boring, and it's really immature. Why couldn't you have just said what you said the 2nd time around instead?

Why is it that when Jesse James made a remark in regards to Bill Murray "not even belonging on the list", he got away scott free? Is this a double standard? Is he more well respected, does he have special priviledges?

* I do court the nickname "Cinemaddiction" because I am extremely big fan of movies in general. That said, don't expect me to be anything less than vocal about movies that I feel are getting undue credit.

* Not once did I say I was anxiously awaiting the release of the "Cat in the Hat". I said I was patiently looking forward to it, then when the opportunity to buy another movie, one I had more interest in came along, the idea was scrapped, in favor to build my classic Horror library. The novelty of "Cat in the Hat" wore off after renting it. Is that a crime, to retract a statement or throw it on the backburner?

* As for "Schindler's List", I don't remember any instance where I was "on the fence" about it. I've seen it 2 times before, enjoyed it, but initially, I didn't think I would have the funds to snag it. I did, and I did. I was never indecisive, and while I do admit, my opinion is sometimes swayed by popular opinion, this time, it wasn't.

* Yes, I do in fact own both "Fast and the Furious" movies. I also own "Airheads", "Earth Girls are Easy", in addition to "Hackers" and "Judge Dredd". That said, I also own 'Schindler's List", "Silence of the Lambs", and "Almost Famous". Would anyone other than myself ever bother to acknowledge that others on this board and myself have similar tastes? Nope. Why? Because it's more fun to attack what they feel are the weak spots in one's collection.

It's a shame that people look for the indifferences, than the similarities, all for their own pleasure. Breaking others down to build themselves up, in some way or another.

Lastly, Felipe. Well known for getting sloppy seconds when it comes to your unprovoked beef with me, so I will address you accordingly.

The "Sanford" thing doesn't bother me. You can call me"Sanford", you can call me "Watto", you can call me "Bubba". Things such as name calling, aside from going out about the time you reach Middle School, roll right off my back.

It's easy to ignore things such as this when, in order to make a living, all you have to do is spend 12 hours total a month at a salvage yard, and make $2,600 dollars, tax free. So, I implore..no, no..I BESEECH you to keep up with your tact of twisting my words, and the name calling.

HOPEFULLY, one of these days, you find something that will bring you as much happiness as I have been blessed with. Happiness is one thing that is certainly not overrated. Well, atleast to me, there are some that would be so naive as to argue that as well.

It's an honest shame that I was driven out of this site because of the staff's ignorance to address issues that had been brought to them time and time again, all because they didn't see the harm in them, although it was clearly making a once loyal user extremely uncomfortable. That's not the real issue here, though, so I digress.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to listen, and hopefully those of you that were addressed, both directly and indirectly, will take something from this.

That said, drop me a line when the next "Fast and Furious" movie comes out. I'll provide Felipe here with some real quotes, so that he won't have to resort to putting words in my mouth to defame me or entertain himself.

God bless you all, and best of luck in all your future endeavors.

Cory H.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Matt on March 25, 2004, 12:52 AM
Hi Cory!

I'm coming back for an extremely limited engagement, so long as to just address the issue that drove me away from the site for good.

Drove you away from the site "for good", but yet, here you are again, to get the last word in.  I see.  I called it earlier--you'd be back.  And you'll come back again, to reply to this.  It's all good.

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* I did indeed mean "Indy", Matt. I think the Indiana Jones Trilogy components are 3 of the most over-rated, and boring movies ever made. That's my opinion, which I expect everyone to respect, without going ape**** on me.

Actually, yeah, you meant "Indiana Jones-loving heart" when you said "indy film-loving heart".  Because the Indiana Jones Trilogy and Lost in Translation have so much in common.

And yeah, if you think the Indiana Jones films suck, that's your opinion, and thank you for mentioning that, because that's just further proof that your opinions suck ass.  Raiders of the Lost Ark = bad, Cat in the Hat = good.  Gotcha.  

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* In regards to opinions, I put mine on the table, and it got attacked. You obviously can't respect my opinion because it's just your nature to strike back at anyone, myself in particular, that has extremely eclectic tastes, and extreme opinions.

Your tastes are "extremely eclectic"?  How so?  And please, provide some examples of me "striking back at anyone" with "extremely eclectic tastes and/or opinions".  I "strike back" at you, because frankly, you suck.  That's all.  You're a sleazebag.

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You didn't respect mine. I went against the grain, and said what so many other people want to say, in that "LiT" was overrated, and that Bill Murray has lost his touch. Is it that I am just too critical, or is everyone else too oblivious to the fact that he hasn't "acted" since maybe "Rushmore"?

Hey, if someone has to lose his touch to get nominated for Best Actor Oscars, then so be it.  I think the only person that's out of touch here is you.

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That said, you reach deep down into your bag o' sarcasm and pull out an atypical Jango Fett rib. It's old, it's boring, and it's really immature. Why couldn't you have just said what you said the 2nd time around instead?

Because I love mocking the man-crush that you have had (yeah right) on Jango.  It's very funny to me.  Oh, but I know, you're over him.  It's cool.

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Why is it that when Jesse James made a remark in regards to Bill Murray "not even belonging on the list", he got away scott free? Is this a double standard? Is he more well respected, does he have special priviledges?

Absolutely, he's more well-respected than you.  Is that even a question worth answering?  Is that not obvious enough already?  I'll give JJ a pass on that one--because, hell, he's partially right--Bill Murray's not "funny" in the way that most of the other people on that list are.  I don't even understand why LIT's considered a comedy.  I sure didn't consider it a comedy as I watched it.  That's a drama with a few funny moments.  Now, because Bill might not be a funny ha-ha actor like he used to be in the eighties, does that mean that he's washed-up, or that he's "lost his touch"?  Oh hell no.  Things change.  His acting style has changed.  That's fine.

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* I do court the nickname "Cinemaddiction" because I am extremely big fan of movies in general. That said, don't expect me to be anything less than vocal about movies that I feel are getting undue credit.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm glad that you don't get/like/appreciate LIT.  Frankly, with your horrible taste in movies, it wouldn't feel right for you to like the crap you do, along with an instant classic like LIT.  So please, continue your criticism of that terribly overrated film.  It just falls in line with everything else.

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* Not once did I say I was anxiously awaiting the release of the "Cat in the Hat". I said I was patiently looking forward to it, then when the opportunity to buy another movie, one I had more interest in came along, the idea was scrapped, in favor to build my classic Horror library. The novelty of "Cat in the Hat" wore off after renting it. Is that a crime, to retract a statement or throw it on the backburner?

You're not going to make me go drudge up quotes from Rebelscum, are you?  You said you were "patiently looking forward to it".  Give me a break.  Chances are, you probably bought it already, and don't want anyone to know, because of the crap that you've already gotten about it.  Don't know if you've noticed or not, but you have a tendency to change your mind on things at the drop of the hat--or whenever you start to catch sh!t about something.

Jango's Apartment, anyone?

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* As for "Schindler's List", I don't remember any instance where I was "on the fence" about it. I've seen it 2 times before, enjoyed it, but initially, I didn't think I would have the funds to snag it. I did, and I did. I was never indecisive, and while I do admit, my opinion is sometimes swayed by popular opinion, this time, it wasn't.

Were Cat in the Hat and Schindler's List not right around the same price?  You were definitely planning to purchase TCITH, and didn't know about Schindler's, which was out a week before.

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* Yes, I do in fact own both "Fast and the Furious" movies. I also own "Airheads", "Earth Girls are Easy", in addition to "Hackers" and "Judge Dredd". That said, I also own 'Schindler's List", "Silence of the Lambs", and "Almost Famous". Would anyone other than myself ever bother to acknowledge that others on this board and myself have similar tastes? Nope. Why? Because it's more fun to attack what they feel are the weak spots in one's collection.

Your tastes suck balls, dude.  I mean, hello?  You want to bag on great films like Lost in Translation, or Raiders of the Lost Ark, but at the same time, say how great garbage like 2Fast2Furious is.  I have some crappy films too--Showgirls, for one.  Garbage is garbage, and that's fine, but (again), your tastes--they suck.  You're a joke.

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It's a shame that people look for the indifferences, than the similarities, all for their own pleasure. Breaking others down to build themselves up, in some way or another.

Get off your high horse.  I've already said it too many times, so I'm not going to say it again.

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It's an honest shame that I was driven out of this site because of the staff's ignorance to address issues that had been brought to them time and time again, all because they didn't see the harm in them, although it was clearly making a once loyal user extremely uncomfortable. That's not the real issue here, though, so I digress.

*****, please.  You left this site on your own accord.  You don't like the way I (or someone else) responded to your ridiculous comments?  Grow a pair of balls, be a man, and deal with it.  How many times have you deleted your accounts now?  Three?  You're looking for attention.  Nobody else are going to see things your way because you have a twisted worldview.  "Think yourself straight" ring any bells?  You're f--ked up, man.  

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Anyway, thanks for taking the time to listen, and hopefully those of you that were addressed, both directly and indirectly, will take something from this.

Oh, man, it's getting deep.  You should start a seminar tour:  "Life Lessons from Jango Fettish".  

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God bless you all, and best of luck in all your future endeavors.

Cory H.

Thanks.

And. . .  we'll see you back in a few days or weeks to respond to this.  Any ideas on which screen-name you're going to use next time?

Maybe you can take another shower to "cool off" before you come back again. . .
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Jesse James on March 25, 2004, 01:35 AM
Not to perpetuate things, but I didn't want Bill Murray listed on the top comedians list not because I dislike him as an actor, but because that's a comedian's list, not an actors list.

Bill doesn't do standup, and honestly I can't even recall a time after he was on SNL that I'd look at him and say "That's a good comic".  He's funny, and COULD do comedy I suppose since he ad-libs and makes crap up as he goes (or so I've read), but he's not a comic to me.

Dave Chapelle's a comic...  Dave Attel's a comic...  Those guys are comics and deserve on the list of top comics...  Bill Murray's an actor to me.  It's like listing Matthew Perry as a comic...  He's funny on TV (sort of), but he's not a comic, but just an actor.

I just wanted to make sure everyone knew I wasn't meaning to trash Murray because I actually really REALLY like him as an actor and think he's underrated.  He's also pretty ugly and that isn't gonna get him far...  Though Tommy Lee Jones made a career, so anything's possible, so I dunno.
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Scott on June 8, 2004, 12:14 AM
Bill is on Letterman tonight...Classic Stuff, the Dude is Amazing
Title: Re: When They Were Funny...
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 8, 2004, 10:05 AM
I had forgotten how much Cory fascinated me with his... thoughts.