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Title: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 19, 2004, 11:01 AM
Are you like me?  Are you an iPod virgin?

Alright--I was kind of toying with getting one of these, anyway, and then over the weekend, I saw that Apple was rolling out a new model:

(http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/1760101566609655.JPG?0.8748787726048417)

20GB: 5000 Songs
$299.99 (down from $399.99 last year)

40GB: 10,000 Songs
$399.99 (down from $499.99 last year)

Evidently, the new, fourth-generation (4G) models are smaller, cheaper, and have 50% more battery life, as well.

They've gotten rid of their 15GB models, and they still have the iPod Minis, too (4GB, $249.99).

So apparently, these things are already for sale over at Apple's site ( www.apple.com ), so while I'm not quite ready to pull the trigger, I am loading the bullets.

But (and there's always a big but, isn't there, Pee-wee?), while surfing around for info, I found out that my computer may be a little out of date for the iPod.  I'm not computer savvy at all, but my computer's almost five years old, and may lack some of the hookups (like Firewire and what-not) that are recommended for transferring music from the computer to the iPod.  What's more, I was browsing around Apple's site, and caught something that said that their music system (iTunes) would only work with computers on Windows 2000 and XP--I've got Windows 98.  No good.

So I'm wanting to order one of these, but I'm a little concerned that I wouldn't be able to do anything with it once it got here, thanks to my dinosaur of a computer. 

I'm thinking I should probably worry about upgrading my computer first, and then do the iPod--but somehow I'm more excited about spending $400 on something I may not even be able to use, than $1500 or so on a new computer.

What about you guys?  Anyone have an iPod, or a similar portable musical hard-drive thing, like an iRiver?  Anyone going to upgrade to the new 4G iPod?

(By the way, while researching this weekend, I found a nice iPod site which has a pretty slick buyer's guide (which I guess has just been outdated, effective today):  www.ipodlounge.com )
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on July 19, 2004, 11:23 AM
OK...I'm an idiot when it comes to iPods in general...two simple questions.

#1 How easy is it to download your CD's to the 'Pod
#2 How do you play the thing in the car?  Is it some sort of weird contraption that was available when portable CD players were ahead of the in car stereos (mid 90's)

I'm a total virgin on this bad boy and something I've wanted to get for a while.  I may wait a while and have my wife buy me one for a Christmas/Birthday sort of thing.  I'd love to get rid of some CD's its to the point where they are spilling all over the place as there is no more room in our Entertainment center :-\
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 19, 2004, 11:38 AM
#1 How easy is it to download your CD's to the 'Pod

Well, according to the Beginner's Guide at that site I linked to, it's really easy (that site's running really slow for me right now, or I'd provide a link).  I think it's just a matter of using the software (which I believe is included).  That site makes it out to be a snap--you might see if that site works better for you than it does me.

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#2 How do you play the thing in the car?  Is it some sort of weird contraption that was available when portable CD players were ahead of the in car stereos (mid 90's)

It's some cable, yeah.  A techno-geek buddy of mine's got one hooked up in his truck.  There's also this new thing for BMW's which integrates an iPod into the sound system on recent models.  And I read some stuff this weekend that Alpine is (are?) coming out with decks which are supposed to be geared toward iPods.

(Again, I'd try that site I linked to, if it works okay for you--I'm sure they have all kinds of stuff about using the iPod in the car.)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on July 19, 2004, 11:59 AM
I've been looking into iPods for a while now, and just recently decided to start saving up for the 15GB model  :-\

So, now that the 15GB is no more, I guess I'll go for the 20GB at the $300 price....

The two issues I have/had with the iPod which kept me from buying were:
1.  The battery life (up to 8 hours, usually more lke 6-7) didn't seem like enough for long trips
2.  The battery is not replacable without sending it to Apple or taking it to an Apple store for repairs/replacement (http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/service/battery.html)

It seems that the 1st item has been taken care of with the increased battery life, but I wtill wonder if the longer life (12hrs) will reduce the overall life of the battery.  Currently, most iPod rechargable batteries wear out after 1-2 years depending on use, and cost $100 to replace!

As for the car issue, most people I know have the iPod FM transmitter (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/71407/wo/zG5DCH6MH4gX2DA6dsQkeddwooc/5.4.0.6.10.11.12.1.13.0).  You just plug this into your iPod and it transmits to FM frequency which you tune in on your car stereo.  Only $20 and works very well.

It is amazing what you can do with your iPod.  With the right software and accessories, you can store pictures, files and just about anything on the iPod using it as an extra 20 GB of memory.  No to mention that the 20GB i Pod holds about 10,000 songs, or about 1000 CDs, or about 87lb of CDs.   And it all fits in the palm of your hand...

Jeff
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 19, 2004, 12:18 PM
I've been looking into iPods for a while now, and just recently decided to start saving up for the 15GB model  :-\

So, now that the 15GB is no more, I guess I'll go for the 20GB at the $300 price....

You're getting 5GB more for the same price that you would have paid for the 15GB--isn't that a good thing?

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The two issues I have/had with the iPod which kept me from buying were:
1.  The battery life (up to 8 hours, usually more lke 6-7) didn't seem like enough for long trips
2.  The battery is not replacable without sending it to Apple or taking it to an Apple store for repairs/replacement (http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/service/battery.html)

Ouch!  Didn't know that.  And I guess the only way to charge these things up is by hooking it up to your computer?  Or is there a separate AC (or DC) adapter that's available?

(Pre-emptive edit:  Looks like there are extended batteries and car adapters available for the iPods:

http://www.apple.com/ipod/accessories.html )
 
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Currently, most iPod rechargable batteries wear out after 1-2 years depending on use, and cost $100 to replace!

Double ouch!  Of course, if your battery dies two years from now, you could spend the hundred bucks on a replacement, or you could take that hundred bucks and buy a fifth-or-sixth-generation iPod instead.  I'd probably rather do that than buy a new battery for an outdated model.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on July 19, 2004, 01:36 PM
You're getting 5GB more for the same price that you would have paid for the 15GB--isn't that a good thing?

Yes and No.  It's good to get 5GB more at the same price, but I was hoping that they'd have kept the 15GB version and dropped it's price too!  I know why they didn't, because at $200-250 it would have competed directly with the smaller iPod mini.  So, I'm sure that's why they ditched it.  :(

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Ouch!  Didn't know that.  And I guess the only way to charge these things up is by hooking it up to your computer?  Or is there a separate AC (or DC) adapter that's available?

(Pre-emptive edit:  Looks like there are extended batteries and car adapters available for the iPods: http://www.apple.com/ipod/accessories.html )

Yeah, most of the guys I know with iPods all have the car adaptor so they don't use batteries while in the car, which I'm sure helps with the batteries.  Oh yeah, and there are extra AC adaptors so you can recharge in the docking station OR just with a regular outlet (for travel).
 
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Double ouch!  Of course, if your battery dies two years from now, you could spend the hundred bucks on a replacement, or you could take that hundred bucks and buy a fifth-or-sixth-generation iPod instead.  I'd probably rather do that than buy a new battery for an outdated model.replace!

That's a good point.  Two years from now, I'm sure the iPod tech will be even better... even more reason for me to pull the trigger... in fact, I'm "loading the bullets" as well!

I've already got the iTunes software on my PC at home and everytime I log on, I throw a CD in the PC and download it to the iTunes jukebox so they will be ready ASAP when I do get my iPod ;)).  It's very easy and fast.  You pop in the CD, click the format you'd like to use (mp3, .aac, WimAmp) and the CD is burned to your HD.  

In fact, the iTunes jukebox is on-line, so it inserts the CD into a folder structure following the artist name and albyum name to group your CDs together, in essence creating the folder structure you'll use when you upload to iPod!  Very user-friendly.

Just an FYI, here are some other random complaints I've heard about iPods:

1. - can't upload or download to ANY PC but yours.  Your iPod is keyed into a specific software copy.  In other words, you can't upload music from your friends docking station and PC.   I have heard that if the music comes from a CD you personally uploaded, you may be able to trasnfer files...

2. - can't upload a song unless you have the music "key" on your PC.  In other words, not all music you download off the internet can be uploaded to your iPod.  ONLY music you uploaded from a CD/CD-ROM and/or purchased from a valid on-line music store (Apple, Real, Sony, etc, Napster).

3. - Fragile cases.  I've read a lot of stories where the iPod was basically wrecked after dropping it off a counter, falling only a few feet.  


I'm not sure how accurate all these are, not having an iPod yet to test all cases, but these complaints seem to come up at most review places I've read (amazon, cnet, etc).

Jeff
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 19, 2004, 02:12 PM
1. - can't upload or download to ANY PC but yours.  Your iPod is keyed into a specific software copy.  In other words, you can't upload music from your friends docking station and PC.

Well, that kinda blows my whole "buy one now, and use a friend's (good) computer to transfer music to it until I get a good computer" plan outta the water. . .

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2. - can't upload a song unless you have the music "key" on your PC.  In other words, not all music you download off the internet can be uploaded to your iPod.  ONLY music you uploaded from a CD/CD-ROM and/or purchased from a valid on-line music store (Apple, Real, Sony, etc, Napster).

Hmmm--I'm not too big on downloading stuff over the Internet, anyway.  I think most of the stuff I would use would come from my own personal CD collection--and I certainly wouldn't mind paying the 99 cents for random tracks through iTunes.  Not a big deal for me.

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3. - Fragile cases.  I've read a lot of stories where the iPod was basically wrecked after dropping it off a counter, falling only a few feet.
 

I would imagine this could be a problem.  I wonder if Apple offers any kind of an extended warranty or insurance for things like this, or if any other retailers would offer something similar in case of damage.  (And I think I read something, too, where a guy was quoted a repair of $250 for his iPod--that's ridiculous.  If they're that expensive to fix, well, it's kind of like the battery--wouldn't it be wiser just to take that money and put it toward a brand new unit?)

Anyone here actually have one of these things?  I know JoshEEE's a techno-geek. . .
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 19, 2004, 02:21 PM
It's good to get 5GB more at the same price, but I was hoping that they'd have kept the 15GB version and dropped it's price too!  I know why they didn't, because at $200-250 it would have competed directly with the smaller iPod mini.  So, I'm sure that's why they ditched it.  :(

Just thought of something--what's the market for these things like on eBay?  I would think that, with a new model coming out, that we'll see a flood of the older models there, as people upgrade.  That might be a good chance to get a 15GB model fairly inexpensively, if you don't mind buying used.  But then again, if what you say is true, and they're difficult to use between one person's computer and another's, then maybe that's not an option.

And also, maybe we'll see sort of a clearance on the old 3G units as retailers make room for the new ones.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on July 19, 2004, 02:30 PM
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing too... might have to check Target to see what they do with the old 15GB units.

...

Just did a quick check and...

Amazon.com -  it looks like the 15GB units that are left at Amazon are down to $250 (from $300).  Not too bad.  Same price as the 4GB mini, but 4times the music storage for the slightly larger/heavier size of the 15GB version.

Target.com - seems to still have the 15GB at $300, but with free shipping.

BestBuy.com - sold out of 15GB version

Also, I found the following nugget at cnet.com (http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_iPod__15GB_/4505-6490_7-30733456-4.html?tag=top):

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Some people want to use the iPod to share music between multiple computers. You can, but it's not easy. Syncing to iTunes is possible with only one machine. But there is an unattractive alternative. We were able to copy MP3 files from the iPod to a second computer's hard drive in Windows by turning on "View hidden files and folders" and browsing the iPod's internal directories in My Computer until we found the music. Mac users can do the same thing if they install ResEdit. However, when we reconnected the iPod to the primary machine, the device wouldn't mount as a drive until we reset it.

Sounds like you can do it, but it takes a bit of effort to share music across 2 PCs...

Jeff
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt Carroll on July 19, 2004, 05:09 PM
OK...I'm an idiot when it comes to iPods in general...two simple questions.


#1 How easy is it to download your CD's to the 'Pod
#2 How do you play the thing in the car?  Is it some sort of weird contraption that was available when portable CD players were ahead of the in car stereos (mid 90's)



I have the 15GB iPod. It's a breeze to import CD's, using iTunes. You put in the CD, it searches the database to find which CD it is, lists the tracks and artists for you, then you hit an "Import" button. It copies the CD into compressed files that can then be loaded onto your iPod. You have the choice to automatically import any new songs in your library to your iPod anytime it is connected to your computer or to manage the music files manually. However, downloading through iTunes saves them as .m4a, which aren't playable on Windows Media Player or other audio programs. You can use WMP or Musicmatch or whatever else to import them as .mp3's, but the compression ratio isn't as good as the .m4a's.

Right now, you have the choice of a cassette adaptor or FM modulator for listening in the car- both of which are "extras" and not included in the iPod package. I know a few people who have RCA jacks on their car stereo, and you can use a standard headphone jack-RCA plugs adaptor to make the connection in that case. I have the cassette adaptor, along with the lighter adaptor for power. The FM modulators that I've seen are battery powered and I don't know what the battery life is on those things.


The battery for the iPod was my concern when I picked mine up last year. I ended up purchasing mine at Best Buy, where I ensured that if/when the battery needs replacing during my extended warranty period,  they would cover the cost of that. It's the first time I've ever gone for the extended warranty option on electronics. I bought 4 years of coverage at either $40 or $50.

I haven't tried to bring files over to a different computer using the iPod, so I can't comment on how easy it is to do.

It's really a sweet machine and I'm very glad I picked one up. I don't know how much music everyone has, but I've loaded pretty much every CD I own and a number of songs purchased from Apple/iTunes and have space to spare. I'm at 2,987 songs (around 8.3 days worth of music) right now at just a touch over 11 GB (including the base software on the iPod). Not too shabby! :)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 19, 2004, 06:11 PM
The battery for the iPod was my concern when I picked mine up last year. I ended up purchasing mine at Best Buy, where I ensured that if/when the battery needs replacing during my extended warranty period,  they would cover the cost of that. It's the first time I've ever gone for the extended warranty option on electronics. I bought 4 years of coverage at either $40 or $50.

Interesting--this might actually be one of those rare situations where an extended warranty is actually worth it (and this is coming from somone who sold them at Best Buy for several years).  

And, depending on if they could actually service iPods or not (I'm betting not), they would probably just give you credit--for whatever you initially spent--to replace the old iPod with a new one.  And your, say, $300 that you spent on a player today is going to get you a lot better player a couple of years from now.

Might be something to consider when Best Buy gets the new 4Gs in stock.

Thanks for responding, Matt--it's always good to hear from people that actually have and use the stuff in question.

And also--heard some rumblings today that HP will be introducing their HP-branded iPods later this year--and there's also the fact that Toshiba announced that they're doing 60GB drives for Apple, too.  All Apple has now are the Minis, the 20GB, and the 40GB--maybe they've got the new 60GB unit coming out to fill that $499 hole, that the 40GB model used to fill. . .

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: DSJ™ on July 19, 2004, 09:46 PM
Apple unveils new-generation iPod New high- and low-capacity players with longer battery life nearly $100 cheaper than current models.
 (http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/19/technology/apple_ipod.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 20, 2004, 03:26 AM
Apple unveils new-generation iPod New high- and low-capacity players with longer battery life nearly $100 cheaper than current models.
 (http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/19/technology/apple_ipod.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes)

Mmmm. . .  fascinating.

George Lucas to Direct Again (http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,213,00.html)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: jjks on July 20, 2004, 04:08 AM

Mmmm. . .  fascinating.

George Lucas to Direct Again (http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,213,00.html)

What the 'ell, that's old news!  >:(
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 22, 2004, 10:42 AM
Dammit.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 22, 2004, 10:43 AM
What the 'ell, that's old news!  >:(

Oh.

 :-\

How's this?

Duke to Provide Freshmen With iPods (http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2004/07/21/ap1462666.html)

Freshmen showing up at Duke University this year will get their own Apple iPod, part of an experiment by the school to see if the popular portable music player can double as a learning tool.

In a first-of-its-kind deal for Apple Computer Inc., the university will distribute 1,650 iPods for the pilot program. Duke would not say how much it will pay for each 20-gigabyte iPod, but said it will receive a discount from the retail price of $299.

The program fits into university plans to use more technology in teaching, said Tracy Futhey, Duke's vice president for information technology.

Since its introduction in 2001, the iPod has taken off as the trendiest gadget for storing and playing digital music. IPods can store other kinds of data as well, and Duke students will receive models stocked with school-related information, including freshman orientation details, the academic calendar, campus tours and even the school's fight song.

The university also will create a Web site modeled on the Apple iTunes online music site from which students can download songs and course content from faculty, including language lessons, lectures and audio books.

Lisa Merschel's Spanish class will use the iPods to listen to textbook exercises and Spanish songs. Sally Schauman plans to have students record field interviews on the ethics and science of urban water conservation.

The university will spend $500,000 on the project, which also includes hiring an extra technology specialist, giving grants to faculty, and studying the outcome. The program is a one-year experiment, but could be renewed.

While it might sound like an extravagant gift for incoming students, Duke students pay a premium - about $39,240 a year for tuition, fees, room and board.

Schauman isn't worried that students will start listening to music in class.

"If you're in a class so boring you need to do that, then I encourage you to do so," Schauman said. "Or if your need to learn is so low, you shouldn't be here in the first place."
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 27, 2004, 06:58 PM
For as proud as I am of my flip-flop thread, I'm equally as disappointed that this thread--about the latest and greatest technology--has stagnated.

So, with that said, the more I've read about these damn things, the closer I've come to ordering one--even though it may be weeks (or even months) before I have the rest of the necessary equipment.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 30, 2004, 07:43 PM
I'm still wrestling with this thing.  

The more I look at them, the cooler they become, and the more I want one.

However, there's still that whole "computer from the Dark Ages" thing going on.  I just know that if I put down the $400+, I wouldn't be able to use it until I upgraded my hardware, and that would just be pointless, not to mention incredibly frustrating.  It would be kind of like buying Halo 2 or something without an XBox to play it on.

One thing that I have learned, though, while researching, is that these things rarely (if ever) go on sale.  So the $399 I spend on an iPod today is probably going to be the same $399 if I buy one six months from now.

This comes into play because right now, Amazon has a deal where if you spend $250 buying electronics, you'll get a $50 gift certificate.  Not a bad deal, especially since I'll easily be buying $50 worth of other junk from them in the next couple of months, anyway.

Of course, there's a catch (well, not really a "catch", but you know):  

The $50 gift certificate deal expires this weekend.

So who knows what'll happen after this GC expires.  Maybe they'll have a similar deal in the coming months, and maybe they won't.  

I don't know what to do.

Signed,

Insecure Technology-buying Man

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on July 31, 2004, 12:07 AM
I, unlike my esteemed colleague Virex, pulled the trigger on a 20GB iPod at Best Buy tonight.

I almost bought a 15GB version at Target for $250, but decided in the end that the extra 4hrs of battery life, the extra 5GB of space, and the $35-value free gift pack from Best Buy  (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1087340762170&skuId=6641654&type=product) easily made up for the $50 price difference, so I grabbed a 20GB iPod for $300 tonight.

It's charging as we speak, and I'm off to download some music so I can cram my iPod full before I leave for Boston on Sunday.  Didn't buy any accessories yet, I'm gonna try it out first to see what I need, then when I get back, I'm gonna pick up a few other things to go with it (case, battery pack, etc).

Look for a full review of how my iPod worked out when I get back from Boston... after all, I wouldn't write a review for flip-flops if I hadn't broken them in first, right?  Same thing here  :P

Jeff
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2004, 12:21 AM
So this is one of the new 4G models, yeah?  And not a leftover 3G unit?  

That's the first I've heard of any non-Apple Store retailer that had the new models in.  

I was at a Target today and they still had all of the old signage and stuff up, and they're supposed to be official iPod resellers.

Hope you enjoy the iPod and I look forward to seeing what you think of it.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on July 31, 2004, 12:53 AM

So this is one of the new 4G models, yeah?  And not a leftover 3G unit?
 
That's the first I've heard of any non-Apple Store retailer that had the new models in.

I was at a Target today and they still had all of the old signage and stuff up, and they're supposed to be official iPod resellers.

Hope you enjoy the iPod and I look forward to seeing what you think of it.

Yep.  The Target I went to still only had 3G left-over 15GB and Mini iPods, but Best Buy near my house had both the 20GB and 40GB 4G in stock (w/ the new clicky wheel, longer battery life, etc.).  

Just a quick run-down on what I got in my package from Best Buy:
20GB 4th Generation iPod
USB 2.0 cable
Firewire cable
Earphones
AC Power adapter/charger
iTunes Software

And in the Digital Music Starter Kit:
2 months FREE Napster subscription service
10 FREE Napster downloads
Dumbass Napster sticker (for my skateboard I guess?  ::))
10-pak TDK CD-R
$100 in coupons (10% off CD-R, $20 off iPod speakers, $25 off inMotion iPod Stereo, $5 off CD label kit, 15% headphones, 10% any CD, 10% off DVD player, 10% digital music accessories, 10% off car stereo deck).

More to come...

Jeff
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on July 31, 2004, 10:39 AM
Well, not to be outdone, I just ordered the 40Gb 4G model from Amazon.  Exactly $399 with free shipping.  They said that the estimated ship date wasn't gonna be until early October, but given the fact that if I bought it locally, I'd be paying about $35 just in tax, plus that nice $50 Amazon coupon, more than makes up for the difference.  In addition, that'll give me enough time to get the necessary computer hardware.  And it's been my experience that Amazon is usual more liberal with their shipping dates--a lot of times, I'll have things at my house before their estimated ship date.

Anyway, I'm excited.  
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on August 1, 2004, 10:47 PM
Went to the Mall of America today and hopped into the Apple store...I fondled a couple of 'Pods and I about plunked down the dough right then and there for one

I didn't though, it sure was a neat little gadget
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on August 9, 2004, 10:29 AM
Look for a full review of how my iPod worked out when I get back from Boston... after all, I wouldn't write a review for flip-flops if I hadn't broken them in first, right?  Same thing here  :P

So,

I'm back from Boston, and my iPod performed marvelously.


Music Uploading:
I bought it on Friday before I left, and I had a chance to load 49 CDs onto my PC before I left last Sunday, amounting to 619 songs (2.2 GB).   It took about 2-4 minutes per CDs to upload to my PC.  The older the CD the longer it took, which I am assuming is due to changes/advances in music encoding on earlier CDs from the way they are processed now.  

It may seem like a long time, (50CDs x 4 mintues - 200 minutes), but I'd drop in a CD, clicky the upload button and walk away, so it really didn't seem all that long to me.  I let the PC do all the work and checked in occasionally to start a new one.  I'll get around to adding the other ~150 CDs this week and next to get all my CDs on there.

So, in summary, I've got 49 CDs (619 songs) on my iPod and am only using 2.2 GB.  I figure if I put the rest of my CDs on it this week, that's another 150 CDs (or so), which might get my iPod to about 40% full.  Yep, 200 CDs and my 20GB iPod is only 40% full.  :o


Music Performance:
I have listened to my little iPod while sitting, walking, and jogging and have never experienced a musical interruption.  No jumps/skips/scratches/etc in my favorite songs.  The quality is VERY good for a portable MP3 system, much better than any I've heard before.  The earphones they include with the iPod also work very well, sounding nearly as good as my "fancy" headphones.  

Overall, I am extremely satisfied with the music quality.  


iPod Performance:
It took about 3 hours to charge the iPod upon initial purchase.  Off that initial charge, I got nearly 10 hours of constant playing with my iPod before I decided to recharge.  Upon the second charge of the iPod, within 2 hours, it was back up to 80% charge (just like they said it would be).  It took another 2 hours to charge it to max capacity.  After using it again, my little iPod made it to 12 hours of use before I had to recharge again.  I noticed that if you select "shuffle songs" to shuffle all of your CDs at once and play a random song, it seems to use more battery life than just simply playing album after album in order.

Overall, I am extremely satisfied with the battery life.  It was much closer to the 12 hours than I thought it might be and most impressively, as the batter gets lower and lower, there is no noticable decline in music quality (like when your batteries are dying in your old walkman radio).


Other Impressions:
I love my iPod.  As I wandered the streets of Boston, it boggled my mind that I was carrying nearly FIFTY of my CDs in my pocket.  To be able to carry around ALL of my CDs will be even more remarkable.  Technology kicks ass.  PLUS, it was like I had a little soundtrack for my life, walking the streets with music playing, especially with the "shuffle songs" turned on.  Each song is a surprise when it starts playing, yet somehow each song felt "right".


Overall Grade = A
If you love music and technology and have money to burn, buy one and you won't be disappointed.  As a fan of music it is SOOOOOO nice to be able to carry around 40 lbs. of CDs in your pocket.  Have you ever gone on a road trip and wished you had a certain CD with you, yet you didn't have room in your 25 CD case to bring the CD along?  Then the iPod is for you...

Jeff
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on August 9, 2004, 10:51 AM
Very good review, Jeff--glad to hear you're liking your iPod so much.  

Went through my albums a couple weeks ago--have around 6,700 songs, so I figured that the 40GB (up to 10,000 songs) will be perfect for me.  I could put every CD I've got on there, and have plenty of room for future additions.

Thanks again for the real-world review!
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Famine on August 23, 2004, 10:37 AM
www.freeipods.com

A couple of friends of mine saw it on CNN, got their pods...It's some big promo. I ordered mine and chose one of the promotions paid 6.95 for shipping, and I'll be shipping it back to them to get my refund and I get to keep my iPod. Yay.


Kevin
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Famine on August 23, 2004, 10:46 AM
http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=Ann_Downes@juno.com


If any of you decide to do that.

Please use my link that way I'm special.

Kevin
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: JediMAC on October 12, 2004, 01:31 PM
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/TECH/ptech/10/12/tech.apple.reut/story.ipod.jpg)

Possible new iPod causing buzz (http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/10/12/tech.apple.reut/index.html) - Alleged new model may have more memory, color...

I'm getting more and more interested in potentially looking into buying one of these too, but will probably wait to see what's in store with this new model first...
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on October 13, 2004, 04:01 PM
http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=Ann_Downes@juno.com


If any of you decide to do that.

Please use my link that way I'm special.

Kevin

Kev, did you get your Ipod from this offer?  It still seems to be valid.  I'd be happy to buy Jim a 12 week Sunday only subscription for the Ipod that would be delivered to his place. :-*
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Famine on October 13, 2004, 05:00 PM
Well it works like this.

If you click the link and register, you add a credit toward me getting 1. I have 2 credits right now. It works like that for everyone.

My friend Larry did it, and got his. I've seen it. It's a real iPod. No sham. No fake crap.

It's a good thing. If you have alot of friends, you'll get yours sooner than later.

Kevin
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on October 13, 2004, 08:00 PM
Ah, I see.  Essentially it's a pyramid scheme.  I understand now. 

Ok, I'll see who I can get interested in this and if I go ahead, I'll use your link.
Title: Technology is Great!! But it sucks ass too...
Post by: jokabofe on January 1, 2005, 10:03 PM
So, I got this awesome 40GB iPod last week for Christmas. And it's great, I love it. Really. Honest. But, for the past week, I've been loading CD after CD after CD into my PC and importing tracks, and - well, goddamn it, I'm tired of doing this ****!! This sucks.
Title: Re: Technology is Great!! But it sucks ass too...
Post by: Rob on January 1, 2005, 11:31 PM
There are websites that will charge you like 50 bucks plus shipping - you mail them your CD's, they rip them all and load them onto your IPOD and mail it all back to you.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Brian on January 12, 2005, 11:24 AM
Speaking of ipods, I see Apple has a new version (http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/), the ipod "shuffle", and man is it wee.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on January 18, 2005, 12:53 PM
Getting close to finally having all of my main CD's on the iPod.  I'm at 8 GB with lots or room for more.  My hard drive can't take a lot more though...maybe 5 more Gigs

What I have left is about 100 Pearl Jam concerts as well as my wife's stuff which I'll probably add on there too because I'm not sure I can add 5 gigs more of stuff I want
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: jokabofe on January 18, 2005, 07:08 PM
Getting close to finally having all of my main CD's on the iPod.  I'm at 8 GB with lots or room for more.  My hard drive can't take a lot more though...maybe 5 more Gigs

LOL.

I'm at about 32 GB now, and have barely touched my collection. Of course, I'm encoding at 256 instead of the recommended 128, but that's just me. It just sounds better to me, especially if I have it hooked up to me car or home stereo. 128 just doesn't cut it when you're playing it on anything outside of the earphones. Or earPods or whatever.

Also, I picked up this little Altec Lansing portable speaker system for like $150 in Best Buy, and this thing kicks serious ass. Four small little 1" speakers shouldn't sound this good.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: jokabofe on January 18, 2005, 07:22 PM
My hard drive can't take a lot more though...maybe 5 more Gigs

You do know that you can erase them off your hard drive once they are in your iPod, right? Just make sure the iPod isn't connected to your pc and clear them from your library in iTunes. It should ask you if you want to permanently delete them from your hard drive, click yes.

Also IMPORTANT!!! Make sure you don't have your preferences setup to automatically update your iPod every time it's connected, otherwise it will erase all your tracks next you connect to your computer.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on January 18, 2005, 11:30 PM
I've read enough stories of tons of songs being wiped out to not resort to manual mode yet :)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on March 3, 2005, 05:01 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/ep3ipodcoverlg.jpg)


Episode 3 iPod Case at SWShop.com (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=1838&ReferrerID=CJADBN-00001)

Anyone going to pick up this little item for their iPod?

For $30, I think I'll pass.  Besides, I like my black cushioned sport case a bit better anyway.  ;)

Jeff

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on March 3, 2005, 05:15 PM
Pass...$10...yeah....$30...no
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: jokabofe on March 3, 2005, 11:18 PM
I think I'm gonna have to buy one of those... I've been looking for an iPod case that I like, and the ones we have at work are about $30 anyway.

Yeah, I'm a sucker... so what?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2005, 11:47 AM
An Update...

My iPod is now well over a year old and I can't remember how I ever got along without it.  It still amazes me that I can carry my entire 250+ CD collection around with me where ever I go! :)

As a result of me using my iPod pretty much daily for a year, my wife is now considering picking up her own iPod to use while walking/working/travelling/etc.  She's leaning towards the newest guy in the Apple family... iPod Nano. 

Anyone have any reviews on the iPod Nano? 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jayson on September 20, 2005, 11:53 AM
Here's a link to a Apple news site I frequent…

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/comments/apple-computer-ipod-nano-2gb-4gb-ipod/
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Commander Cody on September 20, 2005, 06:22 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-05/ep3ipodcoverlg.jpg)


Episode 3 iPod Case at SWShop.com (http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=1838&ReferrerID=CJADBN-00001)

Anyone going to pick up this little item for their iPod?

For $30, I think I'll pass.  Besides, I like my black cushioned sport case a bit better anyway.  ;)

Jeff




Not to get too teenage here, but that thing's gay. ::)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Diddly on September 20, 2005, 06:30 PM
I'm considering getting one of those new iPod Nanos... even though I have a Rio MP3 Player that serves me well, I like the smallness of the Nano. It holds a lot of songs for it's size too.
Title: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 1, 2005, 01:15 PM
Ok, help a guy out.  I've been left behind by the mp3 revolution and need to know the best way to listen to my tunes. 

Do I go for the Mac's iPod, or is there another brand/type that someone would recommend?

Ideally, I'd like something with a ton of storage so I can keep all of my songs in one spot.
Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: Jeff on December 1, 2005, 01:24 PM
I have a 20GB iPod (4th Gen).

I've had it for over a year now and I love it.  It goes with me almost any pace I go - work, the gym, in the car, airplanes, vacations, etc.  It's small and easy to navigate.  The 20GB holds about 5000 songs which is more than enough for my 350+ CD collection.  Since mine is older, it doesn't do the fancy color screen stuff that the new ones can do, but I only wanted it for music so it doesn't bother me.

My love for my iPod has finally worn off on my wife.  She got her very own iPod Mini in the fall (good timing too, she grabbed it just as Best Buy was clearancing them out to make room for the new Nano).


As for anything else, well, I've only ever had my iPod so I know nothing about any of the Sony or other model mp3 players...  :-\
Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 1, 2005, 01:27 PM
Hmmm.  I must be misinformed, I thought the iPod could only play music that was downloaded from their iTunes website.  So you can rip CDs from your computer to your iPod?  That would be a big factor in my decision.
Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: Jeff on December 1, 2005, 01:38 PM
Hmmm.  I must be misinformed,

Yes indeed you are.  You can upload CDs into iTunes to use on your iPod with the click of a simple "import" button.

Check out our iPod thread for more info on how cool us iPod dudes are...  :P  8)

iPod Racing (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10321.msg71442#msg71442)

I put detailed info in there on how easy it was for me to upload my CDs and import them into iTunes and more warm-fuzzies about iPod in general.

Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: Morgbug on December 1, 2005, 01:49 PM
I still want an Ipod, but I'm a bit of a heretic in the Ipod world.  I have a Sony mini-disc player instead.  I've had it for several years and I actually like it.  It's like an old (but smaller and lighter) cassette walkman with interchangeable mini-discs.  Each disc holds about three hours of music, so it's not nearly so complete as an Ipod.  But I leave it at the gym and don't worry about not having it.  At work I play CD's, have a stereo in the car and at home, so it's not much of a big deal.  And they're dirt cheap, under $100 CAD too.  But I still want an Ipod.
Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 1, 2005, 03:27 PM
I've had at least half a dozen MP3 players over the years.  Currently I have 2 or 3, but my favorite one is the Creative Muvo.  Besides playing MP3s and WMAs (which most of my music is ripped into)....it's also good for bringing files back and forth.  It is no bigger than a bic lighter, and though it's "only" 1GB, it costs less than 100 buck and is incredibly durable.  Plus 1GB of songs is plenty long enough for any plane trip, car ride or day at the gym you'll have.  You don't need connection cables, because the thing itself is USB, so you just plug it right into your PC.

(http://images.creative.com/iss/images/products/headers/prod10919_hdr_1_6_1.jpg)


I might jump on the Ipod bandwagon someday for the cool factor, but for now this thing is the best little player I've ever had.  Compare it to the Ipod Nano as far as features and price go.
Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 1, 2005, 05:37 PM
I've had at least half a dozen MP3 players over the years.  Currently I have 2 or 3, but my favorite one is the Creative Muvo.  Besides playing MP3s and WMAs (which most of my music is ripped into)....it's also good for bringing files back and forth.  It is no bigger than a bic lighter, and though it's "only" 1GB, it costs less than 100 buck and is incredibly durable.  Plus 1GB of songs is plenty long enough for any plane trip, car ride or day at the gym you'll have.  You don't need connection cables, because the thing itself is USB, so you just plug it right into your PC.

(http://images.creative.com/iss/images/products/headers/prod10919_hdr_1_6_1.jpg)


I might jump on the Ipod bandwagon someday for the cool factor, but for now this thing is the best little player I've ever had.  Compare it to the Ipod Nano as far as features and price go.


The iPod equivalent is the iPod Shuffle.  Wife has one, and it is the size of a 5-sticks gum pack.  Holds about 120+ songs, and costs about $100.  It is a Flash memory stick in essence, but has great sound quality

I have the now-outdated iPod Mini Blue (replaced by the iPod Nano).  It is has a 4GB memory, which holds about 1,000 songs (I only got 950 songs).  It has a few scracthes and dents, but works perfectly!  I get an easy 10+ hours of play between charges. 

Upload your CDs, download "illegal" songs, or buy direct from iTunes or WalMart.com.  All the MP3 songs will work.  The iPod will organize the songs by artist, album, or genre.

The most popular feature with iPods is the ease of use.  Either the way to load songs or the simple controls, which is all done with the "wheel"

If you can find a iPod Mini for less $200, buy it!  Otherwise, be cool and get the iPod Nano!

Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: Ryan on December 1, 2005, 07:05 PM
I personally use a 15GB Dell DJ and I like it much better than any iPods. It can use MP3s or WMAs. And also holds data files. Mine is a generation 1 so it has a voice recorder built in. The quality is pretty good actually and it can record long bits of sound so it is good for meetings and such. I think you need to buy an attachment for the newer models though.

I really don't like iTunes or any Mac software interfaces for that matter so I got this partially so I didn't have to use iTunes. A really big advantage to the DJ in my mind is you can use almost any media player software on your computer. I use Windows Media Player, because I like that best, but you can also use REAL, WinMX(i believe), MusicMatch(Dell's version of iTunes, which also sucks IMO), and probably a few others.
Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: Deanpaul on December 1, 2005, 07:59 PM
Why has no one mentioned you can watch VIDEO on the new iPods? And not just the crappy U2 videos shown on the Apple website.

Holy mother of God buy an iPod!

I can record programs on my dvr, access them from my computer and transfer them to my iPod. There are utilities that allow you to put whole DVD's onto your iPod. You can also download some shows (more on the way) from iTunes for $2.

Get a freaking iPod video today.
Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: jokabofe on December 1, 2005, 08:17 PM
Go for the iPod. It's the greatest invention since sliced bread. I don't know how I was able to live without one before I got one last year. I don't think a single day has passed that I have not used my iPod. I take it with me when I go out, when I'm in my car, when I'm at home... it's the best.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Reid on December 2, 2005, 10:37 PM
I just got an iPod Nano for my B-Day, which was today.

A question, will burned CDs work just the same as regular CDs when you import them?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Killer185 on December 3, 2005, 07:30 PM
Apple unveils new-generation iPod New high- and low-capacity players with longer battery life nearly $100 cheaper than current models.
 (http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/19/technology/apple_ipod.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes)

Mmmm. . .  fascinating.

George Lucas to Direct Again (http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,213,00.html)
Whoa he is?! I haven't even heard of the "Prequels?" wtf...





 ;D
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Deanpaul on December 4, 2005, 02:04 AM
I just got an iPod Nano for my B-Day, which was today.

A question, will burned CDs work just the same as regular CDs when you import them?

Yup - you can import burned cd's onto your iPod through iTunes just like a regular cd.

There is one draw back though - When you use iTunes it connects to the internet to pull down the name of the artist, album and songs. This feature works with original cd's but not burned copies. You can go into iTunes and manually enter in all of this info, which isn't too bad. You can select all of the songs and change artist and album name at once, then label the song names one at a time.

If any of the burned songs were bought online (by someone other than you) they may be protected/locked. They'll play fine on your stereo, but not you computer or iTunes. This is a draw back for me around iTunes. I can buy music easily, but I can't jsut make a mix cd that will play on "unauthorized" computers. ITunes lets you authorize up to five computers for your music, and the iPod doesn't count as one, but it's still a draw back.

Good luck - I've heard the Nano is really scratch prone. You might look into those Playstation plastic adhesive covers to protect it. I've read about people cutting those down to fit their Nano.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Reid on December 4, 2005, 01:19 PM
One of my accesories I got for my B-day was a really good, high quality Nano case so I don't have to worry about scratching.  :)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: IndianaVader on December 8, 2005, 04:20 AM
I had the 4th gen iPod for the longest time.  Then about 2 weeks ago, I upgraded.  My mom was wanting one so she got the video, but she had no use for the video feature so I traded her so I could use the Pod to its fullest capabilities.  I must say it is pretty cool.

But the video features... right now, I'm going to be honest, it's a pretty overrated feature (unless you're buying it simply for music videos).  But it is cool just have some extra video on the iPod (some music videos, short films and video podcasts).  The problem is it sucks the life out of it to keep the video backlight on while it plays.  The battery only last a few hours if you do that.

Definately an upgrade, but I think it will be worth the money once iTunes utilizes the feature to the fullest.  Some more TV shows would be nice or even teaming up with ifilm or Atomfilms.

_Max
Title: Should I buy an iPod?
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 30, 2005, 02:25 PM
I was hoping some of you could help me out here.

I've been thinking about buying an iPod (or similar item) for a long time, but for the price, I'm really weary about doing so. I suppose I've heard so many good things about iPod's, that I'm curious to know the downsides of owning one, too.

Durability is my main concern. I've heard that people have accidentally snapped their iPods in half! Cracked screens, just by pulling it out of the box? I'm usually a really gentle person, hell, my SEGA Game Gear doesn't have a scratch on it, but we're talking about a pencil-thin instrument that would be used at the gym and on jogs, right? Have you guys experienced any major problems with this? Will a cover/case solve the problem?

Sound Quality - Perfect, great, good, mediocre? I'm very picky about the sound and that it be full ranged... If this thing doesn't have a deep bass, I don't want it. I can't allow myself to listen to Pink Floyd without it.

How is the interface? I want to have the freedom to play albums at a time without being bothered to click anything, but when I do have to use a menu, is it overly complicated? Can you change the fonts and colors? Is there any room for customizing?

I love the idea of having a slideshow of my favorite photos while listening to music - does anyone use this feature? How do you like it? With the screen being so small, I was wondering if you could really so much to it.

Hopefully someone can help me out.

 :-*


Title: Re: Should I buy an iPod?
Post by: Jeff on December 30, 2005, 02:28 PM
Hopefully someone can help me out.

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10321.0


Or, more specifically -

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10321.msg71442#msg71442

-or-

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10321.msg182293#msg182293
Title: Re: iPod or Other mp3 Player?
Post by: Vator on December 30, 2005, 03:55 PM
The iPod equivalent is the iPod Shuffle.  Wife has one, and it is the size of a 5-sticks gum pack.  Holds about 120+ songs, and costs about $100.  It is a Flash memory stick in essence, but has great sound quality

Ha! She should have gone with the Sony Bean...695 songs (1GB), excellent sound quality, cute shape, and all for about $140.  :)
Title: Re: Should I buy an iPod?
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on December 30, 2005, 05:14 PM
Buy an iPod mini (or the new Nano).  You won't regret it.

The deep bass is going to be produced by your headphones.  Get the big ear-muff kind, or buy the snap-on adaptors that provide a better fit and deeper bass sound.

Bought a Mini in June, have not regreted it.  NO problems so far, and mine has a couple of scratches from dropping the thing.  Still works perfectly fine.

Only downside:  Cost (about $200-250 for 1,000 songs) and the size.  By size, I mean it is so compact you may forget your have it in your pocket and damage it accidently.  Have a case or clip it on to your belt, to correct this minor problem.

PM me specific questions.  My wife has an iPod Shuffle (120 songs for $100)
Title: Re: Should I buy an iPod?
Post by: Reid on December 30, 2005, 07:08 PM
Buy a Nano. It's relatively cheap, for 500 songs its $199, for 1000 songs its $249. The sound even on the pack-in earphones is great, and buying a case for it would make it much more durable. Other Nano features:
-Color Screen
-Easy-To-Use Click Wheel
-Photo Capabilities (Slideshow too, but I never used it)
-Backlight
I would strongly recommend buying a Nano. You can PM me more specific questions about the Nano too.

And yes, you can play albums from start to finish without clicking.
Title: Re: Should I buy an iPod?
Post by: Deanpaul on December 30, 2005, 07:25 PM
Whatever you end up buying, buy an iPod and buy one that does video.

Also, make sure you buy these headphones: (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/7200507/wo/RKFYO4Y28Qr12XgIYv39ztHf5af/13.SLID?mco=7612A515&nplm=M9394G%2FA)

(http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/lm_altview_m9394ga.jpg)

They'll adjust perfectly to fit your ear and can seal out the sound of a crying baby on airplanes.

Don't even think about pm'ing me any questions. I've been perfectly clear in my post here, and if you need more information you're **** out off luck.  :-*
Title: An urgent question
Post by: Reid on January 7, 2006, 01:47 PM
I have a really urgent question. I was going to listen to some 'tunes on my Nano but it woudn't turn on. I pressed all the buttons, woudn't turn on. Charged it two times for the full three hours, still doesn't turn on. An answer would be appreciated.
Title: Re: An urgent question
Post by: Deanpaul on January 7, 2006, 04:44 PM
I have a really urgent question. I was going to listen to some 'tunes on my Nano but it woudn't turn on. I pressed all the buttons, woudn't turn on. Charged it two times for the full three hours, still doesn't turn on. An answer would be appreciated.

Is it locked?

Or - lock it and then unlock it, place it on a flat surface and hold down the middle button and the play/pause button at the same time. Hold them without touching any other button for about 30 seconds or until it revives. This is a reset feature, but you won't loose any data doing it.

What's so urgent about your Nano not turning on?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on January 7, 2006, 11:56 PM
Did I ever say how much I fondle my little white buddy?  Far too often, I know :-*
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 8, 2006, 12:48 AM
Did I ever say how much I fondle my little white buddy?  Far too often, I know :-*

Don't ever say that again.  Please.   ;D

It's not quite on topic, but still very much music-player related: anyone out there have a portable XM satellite radio player?  I bought my wife the car version for Christmas and she raves about it everyday since there's such a good variety of music.  The portable version can be carried around like the iPod, or used in the car or house stereo with it's FM transmitter. 

(http://shop.xmradio.com/Images/10294/products/detail/XM2GOTAO_xm2go-78_200.jpg)

I'm just wondering how the music quality compares to the iPod.


Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on February 1, 2006, 04:25 PM
QUESTION REGARDING THE IPOD SHUFFLE:

My niece got an iPod Shuffle for Christmas.  I set her iPod up on my home computer, since she was not allowed to build a library of music on her home computer.  My wife has a Shuffle and I have a iPod Mini.  We are able to load music on our own iPods by using the same iTunes on our home computer.  So I figured one more Shuffle would be no problem.

First, I had to update iTunes b/c my niece's version had to use the version packed with her player.  So I upgraded our iTunes on my home computer. 

Next, I created a new folder under her name for her specific iPod.  I then loaded about 80 songs onto her iPod from our iTunes library.  When I disconnected it and reconnected, iTunes showed the 80 songs on her iPod.

The problem is the Shuffle will not play!  I tried the various settings (Off, Play, Shuffle) and nothing.  I tried the volume, and nothing.  I tried skipping songs, and still nothing.

I told my niece to plug the Shuffle into her own computer and allow it to charge for several hours, since it was brand new.  She was still unable to play any of the songs after 5 hours of charging.

Is there anything else I can try?  My niece's parent are going to return the Shuffle since they believe it is defective.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: name on February 1, 2006, 04:46 PM
Have you tried screaming swear words at it?

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Deanpaul on February 1, 2006, 05:05 PM
QUESTION REGARDING THE IPOD SHUFFLE:

My niece got an iPod Shuffle for Christmas.  I set her iPod up on my home computer, since she was not allowed to build a library of music on her home computer.  My wife has a Shuffle and I have a iPod Mini.  We are able to load music on our own iPods by using the same iTunes on our home computer.  So I figured one more Shuffle would be no problem.

First, I had to update iTunes b/c my niece's version had to use the version packed with her player.  So I upgraded our iTunes on my home computer. 

Next, I created a new folder under her name for her specific iPod.  I then loaded about 80 songs onto her iPod from our iTunes library.  When I disconnected it and reconnected, iTunes showed the 80 songs on her iPod.

The problem is the Shuffle will not play!  I tried the various settings (Off, Play, Shuffle) and nothing.  I tried the volume, and nothing.  I tried skipping songs, and still nothing.

I told my niece to plug the Shuffle into her own computer and allow it to charge for several hours, since it was brand new.  She was still unable to play any of the songs after 5 hours of charging.

Is there anything else I can try?  My niece's parent are going to return the Shuffle since they believe it is defective.

Any suggestions?

Sorry. I could help you out, but since you didn't say it was a "really urgent question" like Hunter of the Pegs above I'm not going to help you. At least not until we get an update of how things went with his "insanely urgent now I'm going to just ******* disappear" bull****.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 1, 2006, 05:18 PM
I'm still trying to decide on which iPod is best for me... I really like the idea of being able to play video, but being on dialup, I don't see that I'll be downloading video's very frequently... I don't listen to that many artists who have music videos, either. Is there any way to import, say, a Family Guy episode straight from one of my DVDs? Or would I have to download them (and pay for the same episodes twice)?

One feature that I do think I'd definately take advantage of, though, is the ability to view photos.

In iTunes, I custom-sized all of my albums' artwork so that they'd look uniform... my concert recordings even have the concert poster for the 'Album Art'... Does the iTunes 'album art' feature exist in an iPod? So that when I'm playing a particular song on the iPod, the appropriate album art is on the screen?

With that in mind, my iTunes is extremelly organized, I've gone to great lengths to make sure all of my concerts have a uniform date fixed to the album title, for example. Will iTunes import all of this information into the iPod?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on February 1, 2006, 06:08 PM

Sorry. I could help you out, but since you didn't say it was a "really urgent question" like Hunter of the Pegs above I'm not going to help you. At least not until we get an update of how things went with his "insanely urgent now I'm going to just ******* disappear" bull****.

URGENT! URGENT!  (Don't want to re-program another iPod shuffle)  ;)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Reid on February 1, 2006, 07:31 PM
QUESTION REGARDING THE IPOD SHUFFLE:

My niece got an iPod Shuffle for Christmas.  I set her iPod up on my home computer, since she was not allowed to build a library of music on her home computer.  My wife has a Shuffle and I have a iPod Mini.  We are able to load music on our own iPods by using the same iTunes on our home computer.  So I figured one more Shuffle would be no problem.

First, I had to update iTunes b/c my niece's version had to use the version packed with her player.  So I upgraded our iTunes on my home computer. 

Next, I created a new folder under her name for her specific iPod.  I then loaded about 80 songs onto her iPod from our iTunes library.  When I disconnected it and reconnected, iTunes showed the 80 songs on her iPod.

The problem is the Shuffle will not play!  I tried the various settings (Off, Play, Shuffle) and nothing.  I tried the volume, and nothing.  I tried skipping songs, and still nothing.

I told my niece to plug the Shuffle into her own computer and allow it to charge for several hours, since it was brand new.  She was still unable to play any of the songs after 5 hours of charging.

Is there anything else I can try?  My niece's parent are going to return the Shuffle since they believe it is defective.

Any suggestions?

Sorry. I could help you out, but since you didn't say it was a "really urgent question" like Hunter of the Pegs above I'm not going to help you. At least not until we get an update of how things went with his "insanely urgent now I'm going to just ******* disappear" bull****.

Sorry about not replying, but the reset-strategy worked. And I never said I was going to "******* Disappear".
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 2, 2006, 01:08 PM
I'm still trying to decide on which iPod is best for me... I really like the idea of being able to play video, but being on dialup, I don't see that I'll be downloading video's very frequently... I don't listen to that many artists who have music videos, either. Is there any way to import, say, a Family Guy episode straight from one of my DVDs? Or would I have to download them (and pay for the same episodes twice)?

One feature that I do think I'd definately take advantage of, though, is the ability to view photos.

In iTunes, I custom-sized all of my albums' artwork so that they'd look uniform... my concert recordings even have the concert poster for the 'Album Art'... Does the iTunes 'album art' feature exist in an iPod? So that when I'm playing a particular song on the iPod, the appropriate album art is on the screen?

With that in mind, my iTunes is extremelly organized, I've gone to great lengths to make sure all of my concerts have a uniform date fixed to the album title, for example. Will iTunes import all of this information into the iPod?


It's, uh... kinda urgent, people.

 ::)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 2, 2006, 02:32 PM
I can only answer this:

With that in mind, my iTunes is extremelly organized, I've gone to great lengths to make sure all of my concerts have a uniform date fixed to the album title, for example. Will iTunes import all of this information into the iPod?

In a word, yes.  Whatever your songs/albums/artists are listed as in iTunes, that will all carry over to the 'Pod.  I've put somewhere around 15 full shows into my 'Pod, and I set them all up to have the same album title convention (which was a bitch, because the CDDB info was all over the place, so I had to rename prety much all of them).

For example:

Artist:  Guns N' Roses
Album:  1992-04-06 Oklahoma City

Artist:  Pearl Jam
Album:  2000-05-30 London

Artist:  Wilco
Album:  2005-04-25 Oklahoma City

The year-month-day-city thing was just my personal preference--there's probably dozens of different ways to do it.  Just whatever you prefer.  But that's how I set mine up.  That's what they look like in iTunes, and that's what they look like on my iPod.

Hope that's what you were looking for.

And also, http://www.ilounge.com is a great, great site for iPod owners.  They've got all kinds of things to help you get the most out of your 'Pod.  I've found some of their "Beginner's Guide to iPod 101/201" articles invaluable when trying to learn how to do stuff.  They've also got a bunch of different FAQs, and an "ask iLounge" section, along with some pretty extensive message boards.  So check them out if you don't find the information here.

http://www.ilounge.com
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 2, 2006, 03:14 PM
That answers my question, thanks! I'm relieved to hear it, too... I spent a long time reworking the dates on the concerts, since Archive.Org's layout is really goofy looking to me...

Regarding the dates, I prefer 04.06.92, for some reason.


*Looking forward to buying an iPod + Chinese Democracy*



Thanks for the URL, too... I'm browsing the site now!
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 2, 2006, 03:43 PM
Regarding the dates, I prefer 04.06.92, for some reason.

Normally, I like it that way, too, but I found that listing them that way really screwed with the chronology in iTunes.  So it'd be like this, if viewing the albums alphabetically:

04.06.92 Oklahoma City
04.25.05 Oklahoma City
05.30.00 London

Extrapolate that out to several dozen live shows, and it would be a hassle trying to find something.  For me, anyway.  I like seeing all the shows listed, by date, in order, from 19xx to 2005.

Plus, that whole "two digits for the year" thing--shades of Y2K all over again.  And I don't know about you, but I plan on enjoying my iPod well into the 22nd century.

Quote
*Looking forward to buying an iPod + Chinese Democracy*

"People will hear music this year."

Yes, Axl, just not any of yours.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Famine on February 2, 2006, 07:10 PM
Didn't a song leak onto the internet from Chinese Democracy, under the same name?

Kevin
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 2, 2006, 10:36 PM
Is this an urgent question, Kevin?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Reid on February 4, 2006, 06:36 PM
My Nano is acting up again. The screen is always on the front screen, no backlight, I can't move around or click on anything, I can't turn it off, I've tried the reset thing, and I've tried charging it. Is there a warranty or something, 'cause I don't think I can get this thing to work.

EDIT: Thanks for the fast and informative advice.  ::)

I got it to work just by leaving it alone for a while.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 5, 2006, 02:26 PM
User error?

 ???
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 5, 2006, 02:59 PM
EDIT: Thanks for the fast and informative advice.  ::)

Eh!Eh! Bladda. Blehda bleh, bladda bleh bleble. Bleh? Bleh? BLADDA BLADDA BLADDA! Blehhe niounnn. 18 bleh bla blee. Eh...
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Deanpaul on February 5, 2006, 03:36 PM
EDIT: Thanks for the fast and informative advice.  ::)

Service is slower on the weekends here. And, you didn't say it was urgent.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on February 6, 2006, 10:00 AM
Many thanx BILL COSBY.  The ilounge.com provided the answers I needed to correct my iPod Shuffle problem!  ;D
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 6, 2006, 10:14 AM
Many thanx BILL COSBY.  The ilounge.com provided the answers I needed to correct my iPod Shuffle problem!  ;D

If I had known that my post was going to help out a Texas fan, I never would have put it up in the first place.

(winking smiley?)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on March 16, 2006, 09:59 AM
I've finally gotten into the world of MP3's, i-tunes and high speed internet and I'm having some problems...

All of my music files on my PC are MPEG4 files downloaded from i-tunes or brought in from a CD.

When I try to store them on my MP3 player it won't recognize them because of the format. 

My question is this - what software program do you guys recommend that easily converts music files to MP3 or .wav?

I-tunes can't do it nor the cheesy software that came with my MP3 player.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on March 16, 2006, 11:28 AM
Hmmmm... I didn't have any mpeg4 stuff but iTunes converted all of my wma's into mp3's when I first tried to import it all.  But I had to set it up to do that before I tried importing anything...  I'm sure a quick google search for mpeg4 converter or something like that would net a few programs that you could use.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on March 17, 2006, 03:15 AM
Wait a second, an iPod won't play MP4 format songs?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on March 17, 2006, 09:39 AM
No, an i-Pod can but the cheap MP3 player I bought won't.

After checking the i-tunes website I now find out that AAC is the only downloadable format.

And after googling for AAC converters, I find out that nothing works in regards to converting i-tunes songs (AAC/MPEG4) to MP3...

It's really a crock of **** because I paid for the songs - I own them in the true sense of the word yet I am limited as to how I can play them - (CD or i-pod only)!

 >:(
Title: Re: Should I buy an iPod?
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on March 17, 2006, 09:55 AM
Also, make sure you buy these headphones: (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/7200507/wo/RKFYO4Y28Qr12XgIYv39ztHf5af/13.SLID?mco=7612A515&nplm=M9394G%2FA)

(http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/lm_altview_m9394ga.jpg)

Are these still available to purchase anywhere???
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on March 17, 2006, 10:07 AM
Uhhhh. . . (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=M9394G/A)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 17, 2006, 07:37 PM
I just bought a 30GB video the other day.  I love it!  Are those Apple ear buds the best kind to get at that price range?  I know my store has some noise cancelling Phillips headphones (the kind that fit behind your head as opposed to over it) for $50.  I'm just trying to find a great set of headphones/ear buds at a decent price range.

Anyone own the Bost Quiet Comfort or Triport headphones?  I'm reading reviews on the QC2 and they sound amazing, just pricey.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on March 29, 2006, 09:34 AM
Thanx, COSBY.  I thought those headphones were one solid unit, versus interchangable ear buds.  They are not that different than the ones I currently use:


(http://www.griffintechnology.com/images/products/prod_earjams_main.jpg)

Here is the Griffin Ear Jams (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/earjams/)


iPOD/iTUNES QUESTION:  Last night I downloaded the "Radio Mix" of Battle of Heroes from StarWars.SonyClassical.com (http://starwars.sonyclassical.com).  This is version of Battle of Heroes with all the vocal tracks that you hear in the music video.  However, when I attempted to add this song/file to my iTunes to place it on my iPod Mini, iTunes told me that is could not import the song b/c it was a "Protected WMA file."

I know this has something to do with all of that Copyright / Piracy Protection crap, but is there anyway to add this "Radio Mix" version to my iPod???  This is not an "illegal" downloaded song since it was compliments of buying the official soundtrack at Target, but I should be able to hear this song in any format I choose, including listening to it on my iPod.

Any suggestions????

EDIT:   After researching iLounge.com for a while, the only easy solution I found was to burn the Protected WMA file onto a CD, then upload the song into iTunes from the CD.  Hate to waste a CD for one song.  Damn these various music files!  >:(
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on May 1, 2006, 10:46 AM
This may have been covered somewhere in this thread, but I've got a question.

More and Less
The new iPod boasts up to 20 hours of battery life(5), five hours more than before.
 (http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipod.html)

What's the deal?  I'm lucky if the fully charged battery on mine lasts an hour and a half.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on May 1, 2006, 10:57 AM
My iPod (20GB 4th Generation iPod) is now almost 2 years old and I still get about 6-7 hours of battery life (if it's fully charged).  That's just listening to music though - if I switch on the backlight or do a lot of wheel-clicking, the battery is eaten up really quickly.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on May 1, 2006, 11:03 AM
Hmmm... it might be time to run some controlled experiments and then bring it back to the Apple store.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on May 1, 2006, 02:35 PM
My iPod Mini lasts a good 10 hours, buy my best estimate.  The more wheel-clicking or backlight using I do, the faster the power is drained.  And the power is drained really quick with the iTrip FM transmitter.

Let the your iPod play all your songs in order non-stop, to determine how long the battery lasts. 

Another question:  How long is the battery's life before they need replacement?  I've heard that is over $100 to replace the battery, and only possible by sending the iPod to Apple.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: R5Don4 on May 1, 2006, 09:04 PM
I just got an Ipod for me and my wife yesterday.  I'm currently loading it.  We went with the 30gb video version so I wouldn't have to load it all the time.  I can just load my 300 or so cd collection into it and enjoy it.
This thing is a little bit on the crazy side.  I can hook it up to a tv and play a movie on it.  It's smaller than most of the calculators I've owned.
Technology is getting crazy.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: R5Don4 on May 5, 2006, 12:57 AM
Well I haven't even had it week yet or even put my entire cd collection in it yet and I am just blown away by it.

It's just so small, yet so full of music.  Amazing, I can't believe how amazed I am by this stupid thing.

It has gotten me thinking about all my previous technological attempts at portable music.

The casette walkman, always needed to carry around a bunch of tapes with me or listen to the same maximum 90 minutes of music over and over.  Blank tapes were good as was copying tapes.  Sound quality was crap.

Next came the disc man.  Don't try walking with this thing, just stay perfectly still.  Again you needed to carry a bunch of discs around with you or you just listen to a very finite amount of music again and again.  I'm going to go toss my old now with a clear conscience as it is clearly an obsolete piece of crap that could be replaced for twenty bucks if I was ever so inclined to replace it.

Next came the cordless headphones.  Only good around the transmitter, with a one hundred feet you weren't going far, but it was okay for around the house.  Sound quality was quite crap.
Never really caught on, wonder why?

Now I've got something with endless variety, that is smaller than my wallet and I can access any song instantly.  It must be the year 2000.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jediknight760071 on May 5, 2006, 01:19 AM
It must be the year 2000.

God, I wish.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Diddly on May 5, 2006, 08:59 PM
Ok, I need some conformation on something. I want to get an iPod, but I heard that you HAVE to use iTunes to get songs and put songs onto the iPod, and that you can't load songs that are already on your computer. I don't have nor want iTunes, and I don't want to buy songs that I already have. If this is true, I'll stick with my Rio I currently use. If not, I'll jump to the dark side.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Joe on May 5, 2006, 10:25 PM
well..I'm not sure that you HAVE to use it, though I think you do, but you can just upload your songs to itunes...you don't have to BUY songs to get em' on iTunes.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on May 8, 2006, 12:50 PM
Ok, I need some conformation on something. I want to get an iPod, but I heard that you HAVE to use iTunes to get songs and put songs onto the iPod, and that you can't load songs that are already on your computer. I don't have nor want iTunes, and I don't want to buy songs that I already have. If this is true, I'll stick with my Rio I currently use. If not, I'll jump to the dark side.

iTunes is the program used to program your iPod.  You can buy music from the iTune store, you can upload your CDs by importing them into your iTunes Library, or you can upload songs already existing on your computer.  The program is not bad at all.  The store is limited in my opinion.

The only problem I had was the compatibility with certain music files.  I wrote about a problem I had a few pages back when I tried to load the "Battle of Heroes - Radio Mix" onto my iPod.  I got an error about iTunes unable to convert the files from a WMA file to a iTunes file.  Same thing happened when I got a free download of Shakira's "Hips Don't Lie" from her website.  iTunes would not upload the files.

However, after browsing iLounge.com (http://www.ilounge.com), I learned that I had to burn those songs onto a CD, and then upload the songs into iTunes directly off the CD.  So now, I can listen to "Hips Don't Lie" and "Battle of Heroes - Radio Mix" on my iPod!!!  Hoorraayyy!!!
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on May 10, 2006, 03:07 PM
I guess it was going to happen eventually... my iPod died.  :'(

I was sitting at work yesterday mindlessly droning through the corporate day, when my iPod starting acting "quirky".  I was listening to my music in shuffle mode when suddenly, in the middle of "Personal Jesus", my iPod skipped ahead to the next song.  I thought it was strange, but just figured it was a mis-fire.

In the middle of the next song, "Dust in the Wind", the same thing happened - about 30 second into the song we jumped ahead.  Then, the third song, "indifference" stopped after 15 seconds...

The songs got shorter and shorter until my iPod was randomly shuffling songs after playing only 1 second of music.   ???

So now my iPod is stuck in an endless loop playing only 1 second of music and then skippnig ahead - powering off doesn't work, plugging in the power cord to recharge doesn't work, so finally I do the old "hard reset".  That causes my iPod to enter an endless "start-shutdown" cycle.   ::)

So, again, I go with the "menu&select" buttons to reset the iPod.  The iPod restarts this time without automatically shutting down.  I'm thinking I finally have it until I see this moster pop up:

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/51/610031142535203/www.info.apple.com/images/kbase/61003/61003_1.gif)
www.apple.com/support/iPod

And then it powers down.  Every time I turn it on, I get this little screen of death with the folder pic and that web address.  So, I waited until I got home from work last night and then jumped into the apple site to see if I could repair my little 'Pod.

I tried just about everything they recommended on the 5 Rs page (http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/five_rs/)- reset the iPod, restarting the iPod, retrying the iPod on USB instead of fire-wire, re-installed the iPod software, restored the iPod factory settings.

Finally, the full re-installation of the iPod software and the full factory restore seemed to work.  I turned my iPod on and it worked!  On comes the main menu and... no music.

Yep, all the music had been deleted from my iPod.  Ugh.  So, I go to reload all 2750+ songs back onto my iPod when I am greeted with this little image:

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/51/617711142535844/www.info.apple.com/images/kbase/93936/93936_4.gif)

And nothing.  I tried manually forcing my iPod nto disk mode and then going through the FULL reinstall of the iPod software and the FULL restore three more times, and every time I get to the stage where I try to upload the music to my iPod and it crashes all over again... with some error message that I do not have permission to write to that drive popping up on my PC.

 :'(
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Reid on May 10, 2006, 05:17 PM
I guess it was going to happen eventually... my iPod died.  :'(

I was sitting at work yesterday mindlessly droning through the corporate day, when my iPod starting acting "quirky".  I was listening to my music in shuffle mode when suddenly, in the middle of "Personal Jesus", my iPod skipped ahead to the next song.  I thought it was strange, but just figured it was a mis-fire.

In the middle of the next song, "Dust in the Wind", the same thing happened - about 30 second into the song we jumped ahead.  Then, the third song, "indifference" stopped after 15 seconds...

The songs got shorter and shorter until my iPod was randomly shuffling songs after playing only 1 second of music.   ???

So now my iPod is stuck in an endless loop playing only 1 second of music and then skippnig ahead - powering off doesn't work, plugging in the power cord to recharge doesn't work, so finally I do the old "hard reset".  That causes my iPod to enter an endless "start-shutdown" cycle.   ::)

So, again, I go with the "menu&select" buttons to reset the iPod.  The iPod restarts this time without automatically shutting down.  I'm thinking I finally have it until I see this moster pop up:

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/51/610031142535203/www.info.apple.com/images/kbase/61003/61003_1.gif)
www.apple.com/support/iPod

And then it powers down.  Every time I turn it on, I get this little screen of death with the folder pic and that web address.  So, I waited until I got home from work last night and then jumped into the apple site to see if I could repair my little 'Pod.

I tried just about everything they recommended on the 5 Rs page (http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/five_rs/)- reset the iPod, restarting the iPod, retrying the iPod on USB instead of fire-wire, re-installed the iPod software, restored the iPod factory settings.

Finally, the full re-installation of the iPod software and the full factory restore seemed to work.  I turned my iPod on and it worked!  On comes the main menu and... no music.

Yep, all the music had been deleted from my iPod.  Ugh.  So, I go to reload all 2750+ songs back onto my iPod when I am greeted with this little image:

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/51/617711142535844/www.info.apple.com/images/kbase/93936/93936_4.gif)

And nothing.  I tried manually forcing my iPod nto disk mode and then going through the FULL reinstall of the iPod software and the FULL restore three more times, and every time I get to the stage where I try to upload the music to my iPod and it crashes all over again... with some error message that I do not have permission to write to that drive popping up on my PC.

 :'(

Sorry to hear that. Do you still have all your songs in your library on iTunes intact? How long have you had your iPod?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on May 10, 2006, 05:45 PM
Yeah, all of my iTunes music is still stored on my PC at home (and backed-up to my old PC that is now just being used as a fancy extra drive).

I bought my iPod in July of 2004 (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10741.msg70036#msg70036), so I've had it for almost 2 years now.  In those 2 years, it has been used constantly - 4-6 hours every weekday at a minimum.   ;)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on May 11, 2006, 10:44 AM
Yeah, all of my iTunes music is still stored on my PC at home (and backed-up to my old PC that is now just being used as a fancy extra drive).

I bought my iPod in July of 2004 (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=10741.msg70036#msg70036), so I've had it for almost 2 years now.  In those 2 years, it has been used constantly - 4-6 hours every weekday at a minimum.   ;)

I fear the day this happens.... ;)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Famine on July 30, 2006, 11:58 PM
Two days ago I joined the ranks of the iPod owners of the world. I got a 1 gig nano, in black, and it suits my purposes well, so far. I work in a kitchen, and I don't always like the music (read: crap) that they play, so now I can listen to my own, provided it doesn't interfere with my work. So far it hasn't. If anything it motivates me to work faster.

The audio quality is fantastic, and I can have all the music I need, right with me.

I purchased a sports arm band to hold the iPod while I work. So far, so good. I solved the problem of having the wire in my way with running it up the sleeve of my uniform.

What I cant figure out is iTunes.

Anyone have a link that ISN'T an apple sponsered how to?

Kevin
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Brian on August 1, 2006, 11:18 AM
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but we've never owned an iPod so I'm a bit of a novice.  Anyways, my wife's birthday is coming up in about 2 months, and I've thought about getting her an iPod.  As much as I wish I could get the spiffy video version, its probably a bit too pricey and I'm leaning towards the more affordable Nano.  Anyways, I've seen a couple of different kits where you can use the iPod in your vehicle (via tape or over the radio frequency I believe).  Can you use this with any iPod, regardless of size (meaning, do you have to have the larger "regular" version)?  Also, do these work at all?  It would be nice to be able to take it on the road with us that way too.  Just curious if anyone had any advice on this.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 1, 2006, 01:36 PM
Brian,

I have one of these (there are several versions) and mine works great!  The one that I have plugs right into the cigarette lighter and the iPod attaches to the top, that way the iPod charges while you're driving.  It also came with a bunch of different adapters so it will hold any iPod.  Just shop around to make sure you get a good price.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Brian on August 1, 2006, 01:39 PM
Thanks for the info Matt.  I was curious, is one version better than another (or brand?).  Do the cassette tape versions work better than say the FM Tuner version, or does it make any difference?  Just curious, thanks again for the advice.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Stim on August 1, 2006, 03:22 PM
I've got the TRANSPOD by DLO.  Works really, really well...highly recommended.  Works with Nanos or iPod Videos.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Famine on August 2, 2006, 12:19 AM
Thanks for the info Matt.  I was curious, is one version better than another (or brand?).  Do the cassette tape versions work better than say the FM Tuner version, or does it make any difference?  Just curious, thanks again for the advice.

I read a few times that the tuner drains the battery faster than the tape deck hookup.

Kevin
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 2, 2006, 11:17 AM
It depends...I do occaisionally have to change the station on my FM tuner if there's a radio station broadcasting on the same frequency I'm currently using...not a huge deal.

Obviously, the cassette adapter won't have that problem.

As far as the power drain...I have the iTrip and have noticed no problems.  If you decide to get this one I advise shopping around...I got mine at Linen & Things for $60 and it was $100 at Best Buy.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Stim on August 2, 2006, 03:53 PM
The Transpod also powers the iPod, so no worries on power drain...
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: name on August 3, 2006, 08:48 AM
If you decide to get this one I advise shopping around...I got mine at Linen & Things for $60 and it was $100 at Best Buy.


For $40.00 you wouldn't have had to admit to shopping at Linens & Things.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on August 10, 2006, 04:44 PM
Well I'm working at my desk just now and my iPod shuts off... I pick it up, and it's practically on fire.  Almost too hot to tough.

The battery went dead despite being plugged in, and any time I turn it on (it wouldn't turn on at first) it instantly starts to heat up...

Anyone had anything similar happen?

The damn thing is only 7 months old and I'm insanely gentle with it.   ::)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 10, 2006, 09:44 PM
   Are you sure you're not doing aerobics with it like in your avatar. ;) I have never heard of that ever happening, send it back to apple and see what htey can do, If its still on warranty, (I don't remeber how long mine lasts) than hurray. If not It may be cheaper to buy a new one.  :-\
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on August 10, 2006, 10:23 PM
A friend of mine at work said the same thing happened to his... something caused the little drive motor to just get stuck in the on position, so it spins and spins and runs the battery down almost instantly while overheating.

I got it for Christmas, so it's still inside 1-year.

I'm taking it into the Apple store Saturday...
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Famine on August 10, 2006, 10:53 PM
Rob, let me know how the Customer Service is there. We have an Apple store in Crossgates Mall, and being as I didn't own any Apple products untill now, I never ventured too far in, or dealt with their CS.

Kevin
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on August 12, 2006, 01:41 AM
Well, the customer service was fine... my story went like this.

I went in, it was 7:33, my appointment once I signed up for the genius-bar was 7:40.

It was 8:10 before they were ready for me - whatever, I understand things like that can get backed up.

I tell the guy what happened... that it was working fine, then it shut off, and when I picked it up it was scalding hot, and that it wouldn't turn on unless it was plugged into the computer, and the minute you did that, it heated right back up, very quickly, regardless of which computer I plugged it into.

He then told me, that he was pretty sure that it was because I hadn't updated the software on it since I loaded it up in February or March.

Smelling a line that they'd tell to some computer-illiterate dolt, I increduously asked him if he was really telling me that my iPod could light itself on fire because I hadn't updated the software, despite it working fine for the last 6 months.

He said, oh yeah, the software regulates the power and the machine might not know what to do with the extra charge from the USB cable and blah blah.

I was confident that he was completely full of ****, but I said okee-dokee.

He took it in the back to do a software-restart (that's what he called it...) saying that he's seen this before and updated software and a reboot would fix it...


Then, predictably, 10 minutes later he came out with a new one telling me that it got too hot too fast to even work with to try his methods and that he was just going to give me a new one.

So, end of story is that they replaced it after a few minutes of B.S'ing with no questions asked.  It's a refurbished one, but it looks like new, and works fine.  The guy insisted that the refurbs are new cases, new hard-drives, and new motors and that the only thing that's ever possibly not new about them is 'sometimes' the LCD's are refurbished.   Given his B.S. before, I don't know if I believe him - but either way, it's the best they were willing to offer me and I didn't have much of a choice otherwise.

I'll probably be going back to pay the $59.99 to extend the warranty for another year given how easily this crap happened (after all the horror stories from my friends too about their broken iPods...).

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 13, 2006, 03:40 PM
I would've called bull**** the second he tried to give me a refurbished iPod.  I could understand if you were out of your warranty or something...but if you're in the original warranty and it breaks...you get a new one or complain until they agree.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on August 13, 2006, 07:34 PM
I would, but I don't think their policy makes room for that.  I don't know of anyone who's been given one straight out of a new box when going in for a replacement, warranty or not.

If anyone here can tell me definitively that this is not the case, I'll go back in and give em' hell.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: DSJ™ on August 17, 2006, 12:18 AM
You should get the new iPod flea (http://gprime.net/video.php/ipodflea) Rob, it's the new rave!  :D
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on August 17, 2006, 10:52 AM
Well my iPod Mini is 1 year & 2 months old.  And as predicted, the battery began running down real fast last month.  I tried using the iPod Installer, resetting it, updating my iTunes software, and charging with my AC Adaptor.

NO matter, the iPod would charge forever without fully charging.  And when I used it, the iPod would only play for about 1 to 2 hours.  Usually it would just show the "low battery" icon.

So, following info at iLounge.com, I figured the battery was no good anymore.  So, instead of shipping my iPod to Apple for 3-4 weeks and have them replace the battery for $65, I cracked my Ipod open myself.  After following some detailed directions off of iLounge, I was able to remove the lion rechargable battery.  The hard part was actually trying to find a store that would sell me an iPod battery.  Best Buy, Circuit City, radio Shack, and the Apple store all said to send the Ipod to Apple.  (Strangely, Canadians can order an iPod replacemetn battery from the Best Buy Canadian site, but no luck in the US).

I eventually contacted a local store specializing in batteries.  And I was able to order a battery thru them.  I should receive it in a couple of days.  I'll post an update to let you guys know how it worked out.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Brian on August 18, 2006, 09:01 AM
I was hoping to pick up an iPod nano for my wife for her birthday, but it sure sounds like a lot of you have had problems with your iPods.  Do you still recommend them?  Are these isolated incidents or is it pretty common to have problems with them?  This would be a fairly big purchase for us (we usually keep birthdays on the cheap side), so I'd hate to spend the money if its going to crap out in a year.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on August 18, 2006, 10:51 AM
I was hoping to pick up an iPod nano for my wife for her birthday, but it sure sounds like a lot of you have had problems with your iPods.  Do you still recommend them?  Are these isolated incidents or is it pretty common to have problems with them?  This would be a fairly big purchase for us (we usually keep birthdays on the cheap side), so I'd hate to spend the money if its going to crap out in a year.

I don't have a Nano, but I will buy one if I can't change my battery in my Mini.  The iPod is definitely worth it.  I didn't I needed or wanted one for a long time.  MY wife "made" me buy one, and now I am suffering thru iPod withdraw.

As for my problem, any electronic device that uses a rechargable battery will eventually force you to get a new battery.  The problem with the iPod is that Apple prefers you to send it in, versus going to a local store.  Why Best Buy and Circuit City doesn't service them for you is beyond me.  I recently purchased a new rechargable battery for my digital camera, which is 3 years old.  But I used my iPod 5 to 6 times a week for a year, so the battery ran down much faster.  I still prefer the iPod battery versus buying batteries everytime.

The other minor computer issues I experienced were easily resolved by using the included iTunes software.  You and your wife would be very happy with a iPod Nano, which is much smaller than my Mini.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on August 19, 2006, 06:48 PM
i haven't had my ipod nano for long enough to have any trouble with it, but i would recommend getting one of larger hard drive ones.  i have the 2 gig and that requires me to be very selective with what makes the cut and what doesn't.   i think the 4 gig would have gotten me alot closer to where i would like to be. 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 19, 2006, 08:00 PM
I love my iPod as well.  I have one of the 60 GB versions and have almost 8 days worth of music loaded on it....and still have another 50 GB to work with!

Just remember, these are mechanical devices, eventually there will be parts that break and rechargeable batteries will eventually war out.  The only downside I can think of is that Apple is very strict with their proprietary titles....it's the main reason I'm typing this on an HP laptop instead of a Mac.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on August 21, 2006, 12:25 PM
Well I replaced my iPod mini battery.  Instead of paying Apple $60+ to replace it and going thru iPod withdrawl for another 3-4 weeks, I purchased a replacement battery from a specialized battery store locally.  Paid $28 wth tax, and then followed the instructions on this website (http://www.ipodbattery.com/ipodminiinstall.html).  The instrucations that came with the battery were the exact same instructions but in black & white.

My iPod mini is now back to working properly.  Fully charged in about 4 hours as normal, and seems to be keeping it's charge better than the original Sanyo battery.  I've read other people saying their new battery lasts longer than the original.  I hope so!

 8)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on September 12, 2006, 12:56 PM
A big announcement out of the Apple camp is just moments away.  Rumor has it that the announcement will include:

Quote
a couple new sizes of iPod Nano, along w/ a more durable material.

6g iPod that will be widescreen, touchscreen

iTunes will start selling movies

The Nano and iTunes stuff, I don't care as much about, but I'm looking forward to seeing what the new full-size iPods look like. . .
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on September 12, 2006, 01:14 PM
A big announcement out of the Apple camp is just moments away.

And how!

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10:12 am   iLounge: Nano is now, as rumored, Aluminum and in colors
10:12 am   iLounge: 249 and 349 with 60GB and 80GB capacity
10:10 am   iLounge: games will work on 5G ipods
10:09 am   iLounge: games for sale off iTunes for $4.99
10:08 am   iLounge: new iPod software features: instant searching, new games (Bejeweled, Cubis 2, Mahjong, Mini golf, pac man, tetris, texas holdem, vortex, and zuma)
10:07 am   iLounge: iPod is getting enhanced today. 60% brighter with brighness control, 3.5 hours video playback (up from 2 hrs... big version goes to 6.5 hours), new headphones, gapless playback

80GB iPod for $350?!  Holy geez.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on September 12, 2006, 02:22 PM
The Apple website has been updated with the new stuff:

http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipod.html

(Disjointed) Summary from today's press conference:

iPod:

*$249 and $349 with 60GB and 80GB capacity
*games will work on 5G ipods
*games for sale off iTunes for $4.99
*new iPod software features: instant searching, new games (Bejeweled, Cubis 2, Mahjong, Mini golf, pac man, tetris, texas holdem, vortex, and zuma)
*iPod is getting enhanced today. 60% brighter with brighness control, 3.5 hours video playback (up from 2 hrs... big version goes to 6.5 hours), new headphones, gapless playback

Nano:

*correction: it appears as though the nano's packaging is 52% smaller, not the nano itself.
*$149 2GB ipod is aluminum only, $199 4GB has colors, $249 8GB is black only
*All models are 52% smaller in volume than previous nano. new charger, new armband, new lanyard
*8GB is $249 in all colors
*4GB is $199 in all colors but black
*2GB is $149 in silver only
*3 models, but with double storage capacity at each model (and varying colors available)
*New software just like standard iPod
*24 hour battery life
*Green silver black blue pink
*Nano is now, as rumored, Aluminum and in colors

Shuffle:

*metal body, 1 model (1GB), $79, ships in october.
*iPod Shuffle is now 2nd generationl size of iPod Radio Remote

iTunes:

*So: Movies
*near DVD image quality
*Dolby surround audio
*Same day as DVD
*Pre-order with one click
*Usage rights = same as TV shows
*Parental controls extended to include MPAA ratings
*International in 2007
*iTunes 7 is available today as a free download from apple.com
*iPod boxes now show Pirates of the Carribbean
*U.S. now, International in 2007.
*Dolby surround audio in videos
*Same encoding as TV shows at 640x480. If you have a 5mb/s broadband connection, it will take approximately 30 minutes to download a movie
*most titles will be $9.99
*New releases $12.99 preorders and first week, after that up to $14.99
*75 films online today, more every week and month
*Today, films from Walt Disney, Pixar, Touchstone, Miramax. (all Disney owned)
*Tv shows - started with 1 network, 5 shows.
*movies
*"one more thing..."
*Video on screen now markedly higher resolution
*Now, all of this video is encoded with the best encoding in the world, H.264. We've been distributing it at 320x240. Today, we're going to take that up a notch to 640x480. That's 4x the resolution. iTunes 7 also has seamless playback for video.
*you can now sync between multiple computers using an iPod, as long as both are authorized on the same account
*Today we're introducing the biggest single enhancement: iTunes 7
You say "it looks the same," but it isn't
[the left nav is more cleanly organized without being radically different]
We've added a View switch, a 3-position switch. we've added a 2nd view called album view, so you can scroll through your music library and look at it by album. what if you ripped your CDs and don't have the covers? Today we're announcing free missing album cover art for all the music in your library if you have an itune acct. itunes will automatically download it for free
but there's something even better. that's the third view. it's called Cover Flow view. [LOOKS LIKE FLIPPLING THROUGH YOUR CD RACK]
*TV shows are now encoded at 640x480 (h264), up from 320x240
*iPod updater appears to be now integrated into iTunes
*3 different views of iTunes, list view, album view (with art and tracks), then "cover flow view" lets you rapidly find what you want by album cover
*iTunes will give you cover art for free if you are missing cover art (thanks Steve)
*Store now has own section, devices have their own sections, playlists too
*Source list now includes library with sep libraries for all forms of media
*iTunes 7 today

New TV set-top box:

*works with iTunes on PC or Mac. price will be $299
*[Steve finds and plays The Incredibles. it's not 640x480, it's HDTV]
*iTV lets you get access to trailers and itunes store selected content from internet
*The software features 3D animated graphics with a menu on the right and graphics on the left. Jobs demonstrated it, going into the Movies menu and scrolling through floating artwork on the left-hand side.
*Video looks very close to DVD quality even on a huge theater sized projector
*Video access is instantaneous, looks like watching a DVD
*It looks like this {a flatter Mini} it's called iTV. That's a codeword. we need to come up with a better name.
*Interface is like next gen front row
*1/2 size of Mac Mini, built-in power supply, USB, Ethernet, 802.11 "wireless component video", optical audio and HDMI ports, plus old RCA stereo audio ports. Works with Apple Remote
*Like a Mac Mini... iTV is its name (not final).
*Apple is releasing its long-rumored set-top box in Q1 2007. It will be Wireless
*You can take content to computer or iPod, but now... TV
*Q1 2007 "Completes the story"
*One last thing, an unusual sneak peek
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on September 12, 2006, 02:53 PM
 :o

Figures.  I knew, like all technology, the second I buy it, it will be out of date. 

80 GB sounds pretty sweet and the price is nice too.  Wonder if I can sell mine off :P

Thanks for the news.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on September 12, 2006, 03:05 PM
I've been trying like crazy to get the new iTunes 7 update, but keep getting the "server could not be contacted" message.  They're either getting hammered, or the update's just not available yet.  Probably both.

Looks like the widescreen thing didn't pan out, which is unfortunate, given how much emphasis they're gonna be putting on movies.  Oh well--I'm not really interested in watching movies on an iPod, anyway.

Some really nice updates today, for the 6G iPod, and especially the Nano--they're all aluminum now, which should take care of most of the "they're too fragile" complaints.  And with the new colors--they're basically like flash Minis.

And the Shuffle is still the red-headed stepchild of the iPod family--but man, that 1GB model is tiny! 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 20, 2006, 11:40 PM
Just ordered an 80 gig!
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 23, 2006, 06:31 PM
Once I get my iPod, I'll be wanting to toss a few of my favorite movies and TV shows onto it... Is there a program that will let you pop a DVD into your PC and downsize/convert it into a filetype to watch on an iPod?

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Diddly on September 23, 2006, 09:13 PM
Did anyone else's iPod crash after upgrading iTunes? My iTunes froze after upgrading, and my iPod Nano was plugged in charging, and it corrupted the data. I had to reset my Nano back to factory settings. It's fine now, but I'm wondering if anyone else had this happen.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 26, 2006, 11:26 AM
I had no problems with iTunes, but I have not hooked up my iPod to the computer for a while...I haven't added anything to the library.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 27, 2006, 06:47 PM
I need help...

So FedEx gets my package to me a few days later than expected, and the box is literally ripped in half... I've never seen anything like this before. Despite there only being a small ball of paper in as cushion, somehow my iPod survived the ride... the box to my iSkin was bent in half. What the ****?

So I boot up the iPod, browse the menus, and decide to go ahead and plug it into my PC and put some music on it...

I plug the iPod into the PC, the PC recognizes it as an iPod... but my iTunes (the latest version) doesn't realize I have an iPod... the iPod is blinking "DO NOT DISCONNECT" and appears to be recharging, despite the fact the battery was full... and the Apple Guide says "try connecting it into another outlet"... So which command do I follow? What the ****?

Help, plz.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Nicklab on September 27, 2006, 06:56 PM
Try closing iTunes and re-open it.  If iTunes still doesn't recognize the iPod, then I would reboot the PC.  However if it does, you should be able to eject the iPod from your connection.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 27, 2006, 07:01 PM
I've tried closing iTunes a couple of times, and it doesn't know there's an iPod here... The 'Setup Assistant' never showed up for me, either...

Should I eject it while it's saying 'Do not disconnect'?



Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 28, 2006, 12:29 PM
It shouldn't hurt the iPo since you are not updating it.

Hope you haven't been waiting all this time!  :-[
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 28, 2006, 01:33 PM
After 2 or 3 hours waiting around, I finally just ejected the iPod, opened iTunes, then put the iPod into a different USB port... it worked immediately...

Lame.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Famine on October 3, 2006, 12:48 PM
After a desperte search, I found my iPod today, in a pair of shorts that hadn't yet been run through the dryer. Against all hopes, I tried to see if it would work and it would not.

Time to go to the apple store.  :-\

Kevin
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 3, 2006, 01:24 PM
Yeah... that's not good.

My iPod has been acting kinda funky, at times, when I try to turn it on. It'll refuse to turn on, and then after a few button presses, it'll beep and I see an Apple Logo... and then it starts working. Very weird.
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: Famine on October 3, 2006, 01:39 PM
I had that problem before the wash accident. On a whim I took my iPod into my gym wehre my iPod docking stereo is, and hooked it up, and it works fine.

Must be a USB problem(?).

Kevin
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: ruiner on October 3, 2006, 01:56 PM
Oh, that hurts.

Do you have one of those extended warranties I always think are a joke?   ;)

I don't have an i-pod yet, but with a business trip looming in a couple weeks, I sure would like to get one...especially one with video (at one time I thought Arrested Development ((the show)) was available).

Is there a way to take a DVD and download it to your i-pod?  Something tells me no.

Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: jadesfire on October 3, 2006, 02:10 PM
Help!!

I need someone to guide me to the correct iPod.  All I want is to have one to download music that I have saved to my computer or songs I find online.  I'd say 40 cd's altogether.  I only need it for long trips on the back of the Harley but needs to fit into my jacket pocket or pants pocket. 

To be able to put a cool jacket/cover (or whatever the hell they are called) on it would sweet.  Obviously, I'd like a Star Wars one but have no idea if it is possible.  Hello Kitty or Barbie would work also - think pink.

Thanks in advance!!


PS:  Dumb question of the month but I assume I can download songs from my computer even if it not an Apple.
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 3, 2006, 02:23 PM
Beth,

For what you're looking for, I would suggest an iPod Mini or Nano.  Actually, any iPod would be good for what you want.  I have the 60 GB one and it fits easily into a jacket pocket.

You also do not need to use a Mac with an iPod.  The iTunes software works very well on a PC.

Speaking of which, I finally updated my iPod with the latest software and it's even better.  Now there is no short pause between songs so when I play albums with seamless transitions (Tool or Pink Floyd are notorious for these types of transitions) they albums sound perfect!
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: Nathan on October 3, 2006, 02:29 PM
To be able to put a cool jacket/cover (or whatever the hell they are called) on it would sweet.  Obviously, I'd like a Star Wars one but have no idea if it is possible.

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/category.xml?category_id=409
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 3, 2006, 02:40 PM
My cover/case is a big bulky iSkin... it covers up the nice streamlined design of the iPod, and makes it look more like an old gameboy... but my hope is that it just does its job well, and protects it from any tumbles the way a more attractive cover may not.
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: Matt on October 3, 2006, 04:29 PM
Help!!

I need someone to guide me to the correct iPod.  All I want is to have one to download music that I have saved to my computer or songs I find online.  I'd say 40 cd's altogether.  I only need it for long trips on the back of the Harley but needs to fit into my jacket pocket or pants pocket. 

To be able to put a cool jacket/cover (or whatever the hell they are called) on it would sweet.  Obviously, I'd like a Star Wars one but have no idea if it is possible.  Hello Kitty or Barbie would work also - think pink.

Sounds like one of the new Nanos would be perfect for you.  With only 40 CDs, you wouldn't need anything bigger.  They've got a silver 2GB model which holds around 500 songs for $150, but for $50 more, you can get a 4GB model, which holds 1000 songs--and the 4GB models come not only in silver, but also in green, blue, and even pink.  They've also got a black 8GB model (2000 songs--black is always bigger) for $250, but that sounds like it may be more than you need.

Here's Apple's Nano page (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=iPodnano).

(There are Star Wars iPod covers available, as someone else posted, but those were around before the new iPods were introduced a few weeks ago and I'm not certain if they would fit, as I believe the dimensions have changed somewhat.)

Anyway, from what you've said, I'd recommend giving that pink 4GB Nano a whirl.
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: jadesfire on October 3, 2006, 07:25 PM
Thanks everyone!  I knew I could count on you guys to help me with this.  Now that I have a better idea of what will work for me, I like the pink nano one so now I just have to find the best price.

Thanks again!!
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2006, 10:13 PM
I'm all set for now with the 30 gig, but I'm waiting for the 300 gig iPod 'Grande' - it'll be the size of your average maxtor external HD - but with a 4 inch wide click wheel and a color screen.

Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: john todd on October 4, 2006, 05:08 PM
Thanks everyone!  I knew I could count on you guys to help me with this.  Now that I have a better idea of what will work for me, I like the pink nano one so now I just have to find the best price.

Thanks again!!

i think apple controls the price on ipods, so the price will be the same everywhere.
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: EdSolo on October 5, 2006, 07:18 AM
I know I may be a little late here, but I would recommend the nano as well.  I have one of the older 4 GB models and I'm up to 830 songs on mine.  I own ~100 CD's, but do not put every song from every CD on it.  I have also downloaded ~150 songs as well.  I have had it for 10 months and still have room for ~170 songs.  Really I am only waiting for a few groups to be available on line (like the Beatles since I have all their stuff on record which isn't the easiest to get on an ipod).  The real nice thing about the nano is the size.  I just stick it in my front shirt pocket at work.
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: jadesfire on October 5, 2006, 06:52 PM
i think apple controls the price on ipods, so the price will be the same everywhere.

Yah, it looks that way.  I haven't seen any difference yet (or heard of any as my kids were scoping them out for me also).  My son was gracious enough to offer to "give" me his and he'd just get a new one.  I think he conveniently forgot I pay for his credit card still. ::).
Anyhow - I should be able to go to Columbus this weekend and buy my pink nano.  I'm pretty excited since I haven't had anything fun like this for awhile (besides the new color changing mouse I just got).

Thanks once again everyone!!
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: Morgbug on October 6, 2006, 01:32 PM
80 GB iPod advertised in the local electronics store flyer for the same price I paid for my 30 GB about five months ago.  Gotta love electronics and the disposable era.  I'd be upset if I didn't still have 20 GB of empty space. 
Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: ruiner on October 6, 2006, 03:47 PM
$279.99?

Title: Re: iPod-washing
Post by: john todd on October 23, 2006, 06:17 PM
i apologize in advance if it has already been covered, but is there any way to even out the volume on all the tracks on your ipod?   i have alot of the old cd's that the volume is way too low on.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Sprry75 on October 23, 2006, 09:27 PM
jadesfire - if it's not too late, hit a Costco.  All of the iPods are about $10 cheaper there than at other stores.  It's about the only way you'll catch any kind of retail break.

john - in the settings, there is an option called "sound check."  Turn it "on," and it generally equalizes the volume for all of your tracks.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on October 25, 2006, 05:34 PM
thanks... even if i had seen that setting i probably would not have guessed what it was for.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on November 14, 2006, 09:30 AM
Today sees the release of the much-ballyhooed Microsoft Zune (http://www.zune.net/en-US/).

(http://blogs.zdnet.com/images/zune_triple_1.jpg)

30GB for $250 - same as iPod 30GB

Main selling points over iPod are the bigger screen, FM tuner, and WiFi capability




Anyone care? 

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Diddly on November 14, 2006, 10:49 PM
"Much-Ballyhooed"? I didn't even know about it until I read your post.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on November 14, 2006, 11:36 PM
Today sees the release of the much-ballyhooed Microsoft Zune (http://www.zune.net/en-US/).

(http://blogs.zdnet.com/images/zune_triple_1.jpg)

30GB for $250 - same as iPod 30GB

Main selling points over iPod are the bigger screen, FM tuner, and WiFi capability




Anyone care? 



Not me.

Just last week I sold my 30 gig to a co-worker, and bought a brand new 80 Gig.

Then just today, I bought the new Shuffle.  That thing is so ******* small, how can I not buy one for when I go running...

The best part is all of this only cost me about $200 out of pocket, not bad for a brand new iPod with 50 extra gigs, and the shuffle.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: BrentS on November 15, 2006, 10:40 AM
My old 20gb iPod crapped out on me (hard drive).  I had the service plan so Best Buy had it fixed.  I was kind of hoping they couldn't fix it though and I could get a new color one instead. 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jayson on November 15, 2006, 10:48 AM
Anyone care? 

Microsoft drops the ball again: Zune incompatible with Vista (http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2237)

I'll stick with all of my Apple products, thank you.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on November 15, 2006, 05:12 PM
Just another (late) 'me too' attempt by Microsoft.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on November 15, 2006, 10:47 PM
I finally got around to updating to the new iTunes so I could get the new Shuffle up and running.


Greatest.  Invention.  Ever.

I can't wait to try it out at the track tomorrow.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on November 21, 2006, 05:16 PM
how much space do movies take up?   i could only fill about 15 gig if i put every cd i own on it(good, bad or completely crappy).

unless movies are huge and you have lots of free time riding the bus or something i am not sure i understand the purpose of 80 gigs.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on November 21, 2006, 11:29 PM
My 80g iPod has a few movies... Monty Python's Holy Grail is about 300 MB, while Family Guy episodes are roughly 60 MB or so. Unfortunately the battery life is too weak to really use the video, unless you've got it plugged into a charger.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on December 7, 2006, 03:24 PM
Wow, 40,000,000 ipods sold... in the past 12 months!

Zune and Ipod Battle (ha!) (http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/ptech/12/07/microsoft.zune.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on December 7, 2006, 11:23 PM
How much play time (music) are people getting from their Ipods?  I have a 30 GB vid and the battery only lasts maybe 5-6 hours at best.  Is this normal?  Good?  Poor?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 8, 2006, 10:32 AM
Brent, my iPod MIGHT last 10 hours. Backlight off and minimal scrolling.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on January 11, 2007, 11:55 AM
So who's excited about the new i-phone?

Apple Introduces i-phone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/)

If the HD options were larger (say 80GB or so) I might be interested.

Nonetheless, it looks to be very cool and easy to use.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 11, 2007, 05:47 PM
Unfortunately, there isn't a phone service to match the product's quality. I hate Cingular.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 11, 2007, 06:17 PM
Typical Apple...make a great product, but limit it to a cell phone plan that few people use.

You'd think Verizon would've jumped at this one.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on February 5, 2007, 01:11 PM
Question for those with Video iPods:

Considering buying the 30GB Video iPod. The 30GB will hold 7,000 songs, but how do I add videos to the iPod? Specifically, similar to CDs, can I "upload" a my DVD movies (like Star Wars) to the video iPod so i can watch it on the video iPod? Or do I have to buy the movie again from iTunes to have an official iPod version?

Thanx in advance!
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 5, 2007, 01:39 PM
can I "upload" a my DVD movies (like Star Wars) to the video iPod so i can watch it on the video iPod?

Yes.  A friend of mine has several gigs' worth of movies and hardcore pornography on his video iPod--none of which is "officially" available at the iTunes store.

As usual, iLounge.com is your friend:

Video-to-iPod Conversion for Windows PCs, Part 1 (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/video-to-ipod-conversion-for-windows-pcs-part-1/)

Video-to-iPod Conversion for Windows PCs, Parts 2-3 (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/video-to-ipod-conversion-for-windows-pcs-parts-2-3/)

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on February 5, 2007, 01:50 PM
You don't need to go through all those steps...just google (or ebay) 'ipod converter.'  There are tons of cheap programs that will make your life a whole lot easier than the steps Matt linked to.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 5, 2007, 01:57 PM
 >:(
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on February 5, 2007, 02:06 PM
Just trying to save the brother some time (and work).

Have you personally converted DVD's to an ipod compatible format?

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 5, 2007, 02:35 PM
Just trying to save the brother some time (and work).

Just funnin' with ya.  I did notice those articles were written over a year ago, and considered that they very well could have been out-of-date.  If there's an easier/quicker way to do it, then by all means, I agree--go for it.

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Have you personally converted DVD's to an ipod compatible format?

I have not, which is why I mentioned my friend with his hardcore pornography and what-nots.  My iPod is over two years old--an antique by today's standards--it's monochrome, and doesn't do photos, much less video.  Hopefully it'll last until this fall, when the new models come out.


Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on February 5, 2007, 03:19 PM

Just funnin' with ya. 

I can never tell.

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  Hopefully it'll last until this fall, when the new models come out.




Are you referring to the iphone or a new model to replace the current video line up?  I just bought my 80 gig....

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Nathan on February 5, 2007, 03:25 PM
A friend of mine has several gigs' worth of movies and hardcore pornography on his video iPod

For when he wants to rub one out during the morning commute? (http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/20.gif)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 5, 2007, 03:41 PM
Are you referring to the iphone or a new model to replace the current video line up?  I just bought my 80 gig....

Not referring to the iPhone [too small for me (twss)] - referring instead to the (presumable) 6G iPods which, if the past few years are any indication, should be announced and released in the late summer/early fall.

For when he wants to rub one out during the morning commute? (http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/20.gif)

You know, come to think of it, he has always driven automatic-transmission cars. . .

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on February 5, 2007, 03:58 PM
Are you referring to the iphone or a new model to replace the current video line up?  I just bought my 80 gig....

Not referring to the iPhone [too small for me (twss)] - referring instead to the (presumable) 6G iPods which, if the past few years are any indication, should be announced and released in the late summer/early fall.


What kind of 6 GB iPods?  Nanos?

How is it that a 30GB Video iPod costs $250 at Target, but a 4 GB Nano also costs $250??  The Video iPod holds 7,000 songs and is bigger than a Nano, but how can they both cost the same?

Here is a link I found for Videora (http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/iPod/), which claims to be Freeware and is a free program to convert the files into iPod files.  Apple sells refurbished video iPods with a 1-year warranty for $179 + free shipping.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 5, 2007, 04:17 PM
What kind of 6 GB iPods?  Nanos?

Not 6GB - 6G, as in sixth generation.  The current HD models are commonly-referred to as 5.5G.  I'm presuming that sometime around August, they'll announce the new models, which will feature bigger capacity at price comparable to the current models, and with new features. 

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How is it that a 30GB Video iPod costs $250 at Target, but a 4 GB Nano also costs $250??  The Video iPod holds 7,000 songs and is bigger than a Nano, but how can they both cost the same?

Someone else can probably answer this better than me, but the Nanos are Flash-memory-based, as opposed to the HD-based larger models, and Flash-memory is much-more expensive (but also much-less prone to failure).
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 5, 2007, 08:08 PM
Yes.  A friend of mine has several gigs' worth of movies and hardcore pornography on his video iPod--none of which is "officially" available at the iTunes store.

Ever notice it's always a "Friend" that has a ton of hard core porn?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on February 5, 2007, 10:57 PM
Ever notice it's always a "Friend" that has a ton of hard core porn?

No, a "friend" is someone who has fantasy dreams involving himself, Richard Mulligan, and Robert Guillaume. 

I have no qualms admitting that I own (and frequently enjoy) the hardcore pornography.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on February 12, 2007, 09:59 AM
So, in regards to the 30 GB video iPod, could I hypothectically load all 6 SW films on the iPod and still have a decent amount of memory for music?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on February 12, 2007, 10:21 AM
Yes.  Plenty of room left for music.


Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on February 12, 2007, 12:25 PM
Yes.  Plenty of room left for music.




Rough estimate, how many songs??
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Cory Chaos on February 12, 2007, 04:55 PM
People watch full length movies on a 2" screen with 1 channel audio?

Cue R.E.M.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on February 12, 2007, 07:38 PM
Yes.  Plenty of room left for music.




Rough estimate, how many songs??

I've got five hours of video which takes up 3 GB.  Then I've got 3K songs that take up 15.50 GB.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on June 20, 2007, 05:30 PM
So I'm thinking about buying an ipod dock stereo and I'm leaning towards the Bose:

Bose Ipod Stereo (http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=sounddock_multimedia_index&ck=0&intcmp=USE01015&ck=0)

But I'm open to cheaper alternatives that have excellent sound quality.  Does anyone own or have experience with the Bose (or other brands)?

If so, I'd love to hear your insights.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on June 20, 2007, 05:36 PM
No highs, no lows. . .
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on June 21, 2007, 09:33 AM
So I'm thinking about buying an ipod dock stereo and I'm leaning towards the Bose:

Bose Ipod Stereo (http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=sounddock_multimedia_index&ck=0&intcmp=USE01015&ck=0)

But I'm open to cheaper alternatives that have excellent sound quality.  Does anyone own or have experience with the Bose (or other brands)?

If so, I'd love to hear your insights.

Well, Bose is usually considered the best.  There are so many stereo/iPod docks it's insane.  Any time I have an iPod question, I usually check out iLounge.com (http://www.ilounge.com).  They have reviews of iPod accessories.  I've always wanted the iHome, tho.

I wanted a AM/FM/CD/Radio/iPod compatibale unit for my desk at work.  After deciding I didn't want to spend $100+ for a radio at work, I went with the simple alarm clock.  Most alarm radio clocks have input jacks for MP3/iPods.  The speakers are, of course, basic, but the sound is good enough for my office.  I don't need to rattle everybody's desk at work with my speakers anyway... ;)

(http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/04/43/19/50/0004431950372_215X215.jpg)

My other diliemna is trying find a way to hear my iPod in my car.  I got a free (after mainl-in rebate) Belkin FM transmitter, but it stinks.  I've read that the FM transmitters are weaker now than a couple of years ago b/c of some new FCC regulations.  I want to install a simple plug-in jack into my car, but the dealership has quoted me $250-300.

On a sidenote, I finally got my 30gb 5th Gen Video iPod.  I am very impressed with quality of photos on the screen.  I have also been able to rip the Star Wars PT onto my iPod.  The sound is alo very good considering the iPod's capabilities.  The sound effects sound great with my regular in-ear headphones and especially with some better quality behind the ear headphoens.  Still need to add the OT now...
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on June 22, 2007, 09:10 PM
My other diliemna is trying find a way to hear my iPod in my car.  I got a free (after mainl-in rebate) Belkin FM transmitter, but it stinks.  I've read that the FM transmitters are weaker now than a couple of years ago b/c of some new FCC regulations.  I want to install a simple plug-in jack into my car, but the dealership has quoted me $250-300.

if you have an aftermarket stereo in your car you might read thru your manual and see if there is any option for a line in.  my alpine had an option where i can use the cd changer output for an aux.  i think the cord cost  $18.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on June 23, 2007, 10:24 PM
So I'm thinking about buying an ipod dock stereo and I'm leaning towards the Bose:

Bose Ipod Stereo (http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=sounddock_multimedia_index&ck=0&intcmp=USE01015&ck=0)

But I'm open to cheaper alternatives that have excellent sound quality.  Does anyone own or have experience with the Bose (or other brands)?

If so, I'd love to hear your insights.

I picked up a small Altec Lansing unit on clearance for under $100.  It sounds pretty good, but I wanted a cheap one I could use at work and not be devastated if it got stolen there.  I'd be happy using CDs at work, but the drive on my computer is so noisy that I basically irritate the hell out of everyone else by playing the music loud enough to hear over the drive noise.  Now it's better plus I'm not leaving 100+ CDs sitting at work, because those are more likely to disappear.  Plus the variety of all those tunes on the iPod. 

No highs, no lows. . .

This refers to the Bose dock, I presume?  When I get the basement finished, my plan was to go with a Bose dock for that room but you're saying the sound is rather flat, correct?  There's a neat Harmon Kardon out there as well at the same price point...
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on June 24, 2007, 12:14 AM
This refers to the Bose dock, I presume?  When I get the basement finished, my plan was to go with a Bose dock for that room but you're saying the sound is rather flat, correct?  There's a neat Harmon Kardon out there as well at the same price point...

Nah--I don't have an opinion on the Bose dock stereo, or any other dock stereos, for that matter.  Just referencing that old audiophile joke:  "No highs, no lows, must be Bose."
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on June 24, 2007, 12:51 AM
Got it, thanks for the clarification. 

My only real experience with Bose was in my wife's Pathfinder that had a Bose system.  Nothing really spectacular but it really still was just a factory installed system. 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Deanpaul on June 24, 2007, 02:04 AM
Brent,

I don't have a Bose but I use have the Harmon Kardon iSub+Sound Sticks in one room of the house and the JBL Creature speakers in the office.  The Harmon Kardon product is great, while the JBL leaves a lot to be desired.  Not sure what you're going for (size and sound wise), but try out the iSub+Sound Sticks and see what you think.  Our friends are consistently surprised by the sound quality of them.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Sprry75 on June 26, 2007, 12:04 AM
Usually I advise everyone to disregard Deanpaul's boasting, as he just makes stuff up in order to blow smoke up his own ass, but I can vouch for him this time.  His computerized sound system sounds really good.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on July 2, 2007, 11:13 AM
Dallas woman tries to buy $100,000.00 worth of iPhones to sell on eBay:

Link (http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=66434CA6FE6500D6A04B9F946D779145?contentId=3641729&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1)

HA
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Deanpaul on July 2, 2007, 01:39 PM
What a stupid bitch!

I love that no one told her she could only buy 1 (or 2 at the Apple Store).  Not even the news team who did a good job staying out of the story.  100,000 would buy about 150 of the 8GB iPhones - most AT&T stores only received between 50 and 100 iPhones period.  What a vapid waste of a human, I bet she scalps McQuarrie figures as well.

Even if she could find 150 iPhones, they're only clearing $750 on eBay.  That could be a potential $15,000 profit for her, if her extra 150 phones hitting eBay didn't drive the price down.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on July 2, 2007, 01:56 PM
There are better ways to invest $100K.  Or $800 for that matter.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on July 2, 2007, 02:23 PM
What a stupid bitch!

I love that no one told her she could only buy 1 (or 2 at the Apple Store).  Not even the news team who did a good job staying out of the story.  100,000 would buy about 150 of the 8GB iPhones - most AT&T stores only received between 50 and 100 iPhones period.  What a vapid waste of a human, I bet she scalps McQuarrie figures as well.

Even if she could find 150 iPhones, they're only clearing $750 on eBay.  That could be a potential $15,000 profit for her, if her extra 150 phones hitting eBay didn't drive the price down.

My favorite part was the smug "I'm first" that she uttered as she walked through the door.

In the end, the dumb wench got her iPhone for $1400, and that kid got his for free.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on July 4, 2007, 01:09 PM
More brilliance, from me this time.

I ran my Shuffle through the wash (gym shorts pocket), TWICE.



And after a night to air dry (caught it before it went into the dryer) it works.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on July 6, 2007, 12:29 PM
More brilliance, from me this time.

I ran my Shuffle through the wash (gym shorts pocket), TWICE.

And after a night to air dry (caught it before it went into the dryer) it works.

The Shuffle (old style and new style) are fantastic innovation, but I wonder how many new versions will end up in the trash, washing machine, or dropped without their owners knowing about it!?

I'm very happy with my new 30GB 5th Gen Video iPod.  I have all 6 SW films on there, as well as some basic music videos.  Also was able download some YouTube videos (which look a lot better on the iPod than the computer).  I have even added the Clone Wars animated series.  I have about 20 photos on there as well, and over 1500+ songs.

I just purchased one final FM transmitter:

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/412VRQBDVCL._AA280_.jpg)

iLounge.com recommended this as the premier FM transmitter.  I've tried other trasnmitters with varying success, but if this doesn't work, then I'll have to look into replacing the car stereoes in both of my vehicles.  :-\
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on July 6, 2007, 12:50 PM
Let me know how that one works.  That's the next piece I'm after for is the FM transmitter to hook into the car.  I need to upgrade the speakers in the car as well, so maybe upgrading the deck isn't such a bad idea either, but I'd rather put the money into the speakers if I can get a decent FM transmitter. 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Rob on July 6, 2007, 12:51 PM
I tried a handful of FM transmitters before I found one that worked.  Could be the city jamming up the frequencies, but iRiver was the only one I had any luck with.

Whatever you do, don't bother with ones that don't plug into a cigarette lighter - the ones trying to get their power from the iPod never work well (for me anyway).

 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on July 8, 2007, 12:14 PM

iLounge.com recommended this as the premier FM transmitter.  I've tried other trasnmitters with varying success, but if this doesn't work, then I'll have to look into replacing the car stereoes in both of my vehicles.  :-\

i had the white version of that one for years. it worked perfectly, but the cord eventually started to get loose and cause static in the connection. i bought this one at a discount club to replace it:

(http://www.halfords.com/wcsstore/HalfordsConsumerDirect/images/catalog/400-627224.jpg)

it's the Belkin version and it sucks. most of the time i have to put my hand on it just to boost the signal, which isn't very convenient when driving, for obvious reasons. i should have just bought another of the Kensingtons.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on July 10, 2007, 10:24 AM
Let me know how that one works.  That's the next piece I'm after for is the FM transmitter to hook into the car.  I need to upgrade the speakers in the car as well, so maybe upgrading the deck isn't such a bad idea either, but I'd rather put the money into the speakers if I can get a decent FM transmitter. 

Hey MORGBUG, I've finally got my Kensington FM Transmitter.  My first impression is that it is very good.  I had a Belkin transmitter for my video iPod (a piece of crap) and a Griffin iTrip for my iPod Mini (not bad, but not great either), but this Kensington model is terrific.  I like the fact that it plugs into 12v adaptor, drawing power from there instead of the iPod, which is what the iTrip and Belkin models do.  I had to find an empty station that gave the best quality, but I was impressed with the clarity and volume.  The digital tuner also allows for easier programming, and it allows up to three preset settings in case the sound isn't the best on the default station.

These are just my first impressions, so I'll post more as I spend more time with it.  Overall impression is favorable.  This transmitter may prevent me from spending the big bucks to replace two car stereos.

EDIT 8/3/2007 - I'll just edit my last post since I was the last person to post here.  in short, I've have the transmitter for a while now, and it is exactly what I would hope for.  No need to buy a new stereo with an input jack, since this transmitter works perfectly.  The sound is clear and I can blast my speakers without any static.  For some reason the transmitter does not tune to any FM frequency of 87 FM.  These stations are ideal in most area.  However, I read online that there is an "easter egg" in tuning that frequency.  I haven't had to use the 87 FM freq yet, but it's good info to know for trips and such.  HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS PRODUCT!  It will work with any iPod that uses the bottom input female plug, like the mini, Nano, and Video iPods.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Greg on August 25, 2007, 08:09 PM
Okay, are there any iPod users that can help me out with a problem? My iPod just froze after I plugged it into my PC for charging. It doesn't sync to Itunes, and iTunes says that it is "corrupted". I've tried restoring it, but iTunes said software cannot be downloaded to restore the iPod. If anyone can offer advice on how to fix this problem, I'd appreciate it. Lastly, the iPod is a Nano in case you need to know.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: S_A_Longhorn on August 27, 2007, 10:18 AM
There is a way to completely rest your iPod (pressing the middle button in combination with the Menu button?).  This resets your iPod and will delete everyting on your hard drive, which allows you then to re-install your Itunes library.

There is also an iPod Installer program that does this for you too.  Check out the iTunes website to download the program.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on August 27, 2007, 02:13 PM
How to Reset an Ipod (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61705)

This should work.  It's happened to me before - usually when I leave the hold switch 'on' when connecting it to a PC.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Greg on August 27, 2007, 03:15 PM
Hey guys! Thanks for the advice! I fixed my problem the following day by just letting the battery die, so I didn't have to delete/replace my music. I'll keep the iPod reset pages/downloads in mind next time this happens to me.
   ruiner, I believe I had the hold switch in the on position, so that might have caused the problem.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on August 29, 2007, 04:21 PM
(http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1761/applebeateventrf7.jpg)

Apple announces Sept. 5 Special Event (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/apple-announces-sept-5-special-event/11296/P25/)

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With a Cover Flow-themed widescreen graphic for its invitation, Apple has invited selected members of the media to a September 5, 2007 “Special Event” in San Francisco, California. The graphic, titled “The beat goes on.”, shows a silhouetted iTunes dancer holding a fifth-generation iPod in hand alongside six album covers. As with other major iPod- and iTunes-themed events, the Moscone Center has been selected as the venue, suggesting the need for greater seating capacity than the smaller Mac- and iPod accessory events Apple has staged in months and years past. iLounge editors will be on site to cover the Event live.

Rumors abound that this may be the official introduction of the new sixth-generation iPods, (finally) featuring a wide- and touch-screen display, much like the iPhone.

Either that, or the announcement that The Beatles' catalog will finally be made available on iTunes.

Or maybe both. 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on August 29, 2007, 04:36 PM
(http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1761/applebeateventrf7.jpg)

Apple announces Sept. 5 Special Event (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/apple-announces-sept-5-special-event/11296/P25/)

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Either that, or the announcement that The Beatles' catalog will finally be made available on iTunes.

Or maybe both. 
I'd say both.  McCartney, Lennon and now Ringo have all recently been added to iTunes...
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: efranks on August 29, 2007, 04:45 PM
If they add the iPhone interface to the iPod I may be getting in line to buy my first iPod.  I don't have an iPhone but after seeing what they've done with it from a technology standpoint, I find it to be incredibly interesting.

    E...
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jayson on August 29, 2007, 05:25 PM
Rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/28/the-beat-goes-on-nano-touch-beatles-wireless/) are wi-fi functionality as well.

Possible new iPod Nano

(http://images.macrumors.com/article/2007/08/28/nano_150.png)

Possible new iPod "Touch"

(http://images.macrumors.com/article/2007/08/28/touch.png)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on September 4, 2007, 01:51 PM
Think Secret: Touch-screen iPod to take center stage (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0709preipod.html)

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September 4, 2007 - Apple will at last unveil a touch-screen iPod with a 3.5-inch display at its media event Wednesday, sources have confirmed, some 20 months after Think Secret first broke word of the device's development.

The new iPod will feature similar dimensions to Apple's iPhone with which it will share the same display, but sources except the iPod to continue to sport a hard drive in place of Flash memory. Solid state media commands a roughly 15-fold price premium per gigabyte over a 1.8-inch hard drive, which is now available in substantial quantities at capacities up to 120GB.

The rumormill has been ripe with other feature speculation surrounding the new iPod, some more far-fetched than others. While it is possible the new iPod will be the first to pack some sort of wireless capability, suggestions of digital radio playback should be taken with a grain of salt.

Apple's new iPod nano, meanwhile, will gain much of the same functionality as Apple's current 5.5G iPod, including video playback and a higher resolution 320x240 pixel display. The nano will remain Flash-based, with capacities expected to top out at 12GB or 16GB, in keeping with rival product offerings.

The iPod nano is also expected to feature the first substantial improvement to the iPod's traditional interface. Rumored to have been in development for nearly two years, the click-wheel based interface will pack plenty of animation and other visual flair, including CoverFlow browsing if leaked videos of the interface--screenshots of which are offered below--are true to the final form.


Apple may take advantage of tomorrow's media event to make other announcements, including new iPod accessories. Think Secret sources recently said they believe the iPod Hi-Fi speaker system will be eliminated from Apple's product line-up in the near future.

In addition, rumors that Apple will make an announcement regarding the Beatles catalog have circulated for some time and may come to a head tomorrow. The rumors have been partially fueled by content selections in the leaked iPod interface videos and also by the recent addition of John Lennon's solo work to iTunes.

The supposed "leaked screenshots" of the new interface are up at the link. . .
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on September 4, 2007, 02:57 PM
Anyone wanna buy a 80GB current gen model?

Not even one year old...

 :-\
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on September 5, 2007, 02:06 PM
Maybe not.  According to MacWorld the new ipod 'touch' is only available in 8 ($299) and 16GB ($399) sizes.  Good news is that it has WiFi connectivity. 

Big question is why not go with the standard HD that the 'classic' ipod uses? 

New Ipod Lineup (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/09/04/livecoverage/index.php)

(http://edge.macworld.com/2007/09/images/content/appleevent11.jpg)

Very disappointing for those of us who wanted to upgrade their 'primary' ipod... :-\

Good news is the introduction of an ipod nano with video capabilities and the new 'classic' ipod with a tweaked exterior and great storage capacity.

(http://edge.macworld.com/2007/09/images/content/appleevent6.jpg)

Base model has 80GB while the deluxe has, get ready, 160GB.  $249 and $349 respectively.  Shame on me for buying my 80GB last X-Mas...

(http://edge.macworld.com/2007/09/images/content/appleevent8.jpg)



Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Nathan on September 5, 2007, 02:37 PM
160 GB ... **** me. That's 20 more than my laptop drive and Seagate external put together.

Personally, it's taken me a year and a half to fill about 20 GB of my 30 GB iPod. It looks like the 160 would be more intended for video--I mean who has 40,000 songs anyway?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Diddly on September 5, 2007, 05:16 PM
Eh, I'll stick with my original Nano. Still works fine and I've only filled about 1.3 gigs with songs and pictures.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on September 5, 2007, 05:40 PM
It looks like the 160 would be more intended for video--I mean who has 40,000 songs anyway?

i have to agree there... even the most hard core music guys i know only have 25-30 gb.  still, 160 gb seems huge... maybe enough for almost the whole dvd collection and cd collection.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 6, 2007, 12:10 AM
I guess I'm a hardcore music guy... I've got 53 gigs of music and 16 gigs of video. My 80 gig iPod only has 4 gigs of free space left. I won't be upgrading to a 160 gig anytime soon, though. I'm happy with what I've got.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on October 11, 2007, 05:43 PM
What do you guys do when iTunes won't recognize a legitimate CD that you're trying to import? 

I just bought Foo Fighter's There is Nothing Left to Lose and the database that iTunes uses won't recognize it...is that odd or what?  Usually the big name artists aren't a problem.

Just curious.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Nathan on October 11, 2007, 07:33 PM
I assume you've tried ejecting and re-inserting the disc, and/or restarting iTunes? Sometimes that fixes it for me.

Otherwise, you have to do it manually. (P.S. To do a bunch of tracks at once (i.e. album info) highlight them and go to Get Info by either right-clicking or under File.)

When you're done naming them all, go to the Advanced menu and select Submit CD Track Names, which in theory means they should go into the database for the next guy.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on October 11, 2007, 10:14 PM
Are the batteries on the new iPods better than they were?  With 160 gigs of memory, realistically you'd have to put movies on there to fill it.  IIRC my 30 GB won't last long enough to play a full movie.  The only place I'd likely watch a movie on an iPod is on an airplane but if the battery won't last, why not just use my laptop which is with me anyway?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Reid on December 2, 2007, 01:54 PM
I just got a 80g iPod Classic for my birthday (my 4g Nano was filled to capacity) and so far I love it. I have one question though. Because of the new cover flow feature, I want to add album covers to my songs that I got from a CD. Is there a way to highlight a particular album and copy an album cover to all of the songs?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Nathan on December 2, 2007, 03:03 PM
Highlight the ones you want to change, right-click, select the first option which is "Get Info", it will ask you if you want to change info for multiple items and once and you click "Yes", then go to the little box that says "Artwork", right-click, and paste.

To change cover art on individual tracks (like if you want to give the specific cover art to singles off an album), you can either right-click-paste to the blank box in the lower left of the main screen which says "Drag Album Artwork Here" when the track is playing--or you can right-click the track, hit "Get Info", go to the "Artwork" tab, and then right-click-paste or click "Add" to browse to a file.

It sounds more complicated than it actually is.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 2, 2007, 10:44 PM
even easier: highlight the songs you want, then drag the image file of the artwork to the album cover box in the lower left. it will put it there all at once.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on December 2, 2007, 11:52 PM
is there any way to watch the videos stored on an ipod on a larger screen?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Reid on December 5, 2007, 04:14 PM
Well, only three days of using my iPod Classic and it's already acting up. I'm listening to it earlier today, and as I'm switching to a new song, I find that it's on pause. I unpause it, though it's still paused. I repeat this process dozens of times. So, I go to settings to reset it. Click on a song, any my iPod completely freezes. Can't turn it off, backlight is always on, can't play the song, can't go forward in the song- anyone have advice?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Nathan on December 5, 2007, 04:44 PM
I'm assuming you already tried this but I gotta say it just for thoroughness....

Usually this sort of thing will be solved by simply rebooting it (Pause and the center button at the same time). But when it's completely frozen, just let it sit out for a couple hours until the battery dies. At this point it will reboot itself and you should be golden.

If you already did that and everything just started over, then I couldn't say what else to do other than call tech support or go to your local Apple store.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on December 5, 2007, 04:58 PM
Return it.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Reid on December 5, 2007, 09:25 PM
I'm assuming you already tried this but I gotta say it just for thoroughness....

Usually this sort of thing will be solved by simply rebooting it (Pause and the center button at the same time).

I tried that, and no dice. However, upon discovering the user manual, the instructions were to first switch the "hold" button on and off, then press the center and menu button at the same time. After that, it worked like a charm.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 7, 2007, 10:08 PM
My iPod does that, on occasion... ******* the hold on and off works, usually. As a last resort, rebooting works 90% of the time, too. When even that doesn't work, I just leave it alone for a while and before long it drains the batter down and returns to the main menu.

My 80 gig is at max capacity, even with only 3 movies and a few Office and Heroes episodes.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: I Am Sith on January 2, 2008, 04:38 PM
I'm a total iPod virgin.  I got my first one for Christmas from my wife and have been ldownloading music for the past week.  I'm only about a third of the way through my CD's and I've got 1615 songs in my music list.  Can't wait to see where my total ends up when I'm done...

I haven't had any issues with the iPod yet, but I've been having problems with iTunes while I'm downloading off my CD's.  As I'm going through the songs to choose which ones to download, every fourth or fifth CD will lock up iTunes and I need to close down the program.  It's pretty frustrating since I have so many disks, but it's more frustrating when the Microsoft error message states that I need to download the latest version of iTunes in order to remedy the problem.  Since I just got this for Christmas, I have the latest version of iTunes...

Anyone else have this happen?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: I Am Sith on January 29, 2008, 10:24 PM
So I ripped my first movie for my ipod.  I was pretty pissed that they didn't have Star Wars in iTunes, so I took matters into my own hands.  I now have A New Hope downloaded and am in the process of ripping The Empire Strikes Back.  I plan on putting all 6 Star Wars movies, The Matrix trilogy, and The Lord Of The Rings trilogy on my iPod eventually.

Big thanks need to go out to BrentS who hooked me up with the programs.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: name on January 29, 2008, 10:40 PM
My wife got a 4 gig nano for her birthday a few weeks ago, bringing us into the I-world for the first time.  I spent from Friday to Sunday importing about 3100 songs from our CD collection.  Big drag doing that, but now that it's done I'm happy to have everything squared away and organized so neatly.

My biggest frustration is on some albums with multiple artists, the way it organizes them sucks.  For example, My album of the Chieftans with a different guest artist on every track?  Created a separate file folder for every artist, so instead of one Chieftans folder, I get Mick Jagger and the Chieftans, Sting and the Chieftans, etc...which royally screws up the otherwise awesome Coverflow view.  Plus, it takes some Best Of albums and puts them under the regular artist's folder, and others it puts into compilations.  Billy Joel...two disc best of set...one disc is under Billy Joel, the other under compilations....again screwing with coverflow.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 30, 2008, 08:57 PM
I usually rip my CD's in RealPlayer, fix the folder up the way I want it, then drop it into My Music.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: name on January 31, 2008, 09:05 AM
that's what i did, basically...i ripped the music to an external drive on someone else's computer, reorganized the folders the way I wanted them and then imported the folders to my Itunes at home, but it reorganized them all over again.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Reid on May 23, 2008, 06:56 PM
Not surprisingly, my iPod classic has run into more problems. This time, if I click on a song, it'll have the play arrow in the top right, but it won't be playing the song. It's like it's automatically paused at the beginning of a song. Tried reseting, tried switching the hold on and off- no dice. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Tracy on June 9, 2008, 11:56 AM
I want to get my husband an iPod for a combo Father's Day/Birthday gift.  He got me a Shuffle for Christmas and I love it.  I'm trying to decide between the 8g Nano and the 80g Classic.  We don't have an extremely large library of music to transfer to it and he most likely won't be storing movies on it.   I would think that he'd watch movies on his laptop when he travelled.  Does anyone have the latest generation Nano and are they happy with it?  He's borrowed the 80g Classic from a friend and loves the fact that you can set the music my artist/genre, etc, but the Nano has that capability too, doesn't it?

My wife got a 4 gig nano for her birthday a few weeks ago, bringing us into the I-world for the first time.  I spent from Friday to Sunday importing about 3100 songs from our CD collection. 

Wow -- so they are holding quite a bit?  The standard description says the 4g holds roughly 1,000 songs and the 8g holds roughly 2,000 -- is anybody else finding that they hold quite a bit more?  If so, then the 8g Nano sounds like it would be the way to go.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on June 9, 2008, 12:52 PM
I'll leave definitive answers to the more iPod edumucated folks around here but I'd be surprised if any iPods are regularly exceeding the suggested capacity without compressing the music somehow.  My wife's 4 GB nano holds exactly what it is supposed to and not a bit more. 

I'd suggest your husband decide based on something that will hold all your music and a little more based on what the specs are for each model (I'd suggest buying one level up in capacity over whatever he decides).  You never know whether you might find other sources of music from friends, downloads, iTunes store, etc. 

Then decide which physical style he likes and is comfortable with.  I know some more delicate types that don't like running with a classic because it's "too big" ( ::)) so sacrificed capacity for the smaller nano because it was "lighter". 

The nano's, at least the older generation, could do all the settings the classic can.  So setting by artist, genre etc is in there.  I'd think the new stuff would do that better or in more ways if anything. 

I'm guessing you'll end up buying another within five years too, so don't get wrapped up in "this will be the only one".  Obsolescence is inevitable.   ;)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Diddly on June 9, 2008, 01:33 PM
I have the original 4GB iPod Nano (released in late 2005, bought in early 2006) and I'm currently at 2.7 GB full, however 2.1 GB is music, and the rest are Podcasts and pictures. iTunes says that I have 508 songs on there which would make sense considering it can hold a max of 1000. I am thinking about upgrading to one of the classic iPods soon, however, after I buy a new HDTV.

Tracy, I think what name is talking about is that he was importing all of his CD's to iTunes. When you install iTunes to your PC, you can put your CD's in your disc drive, iTunes will load them and ask if you'd like to import them, which basically means you can open iTunes at any time and play songs, no CD required.

My Nano can also play songs by artist, album, or in alphabetical order. Even randomly just like the Shuffle.

So I'd go with the 8 GB Nano, but it's really whichever one you'd like. I like the Nano simply because it's portable and easy to carry around.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: name on June 10, 2008, 02:33 PM
What he said.

I did import all of our CD's onto our portable hard drive and into Itunes, but the 4gig nano won't hold close to that.  I just wanted to get all of the CD's done and over with.  My wife can then make her playlists and pick and choose what songs to load onto the Ipod.

I'd go with either the 8gig nano or the 80 gig classic.  4 gigs seems a a little cramped to me.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Tracy on June 12, 2008, 12:48 PM
After debating between the 80g Classic and the 8g Nano I decided on the Nano.  When I went to Target today to get it, the 80g came with a $25 iTunes card -- so I decided for essentially $25.00 more, I would go ahead and get him the Classic, which is what I suspect he really wanted all along. 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Chris on June 12, 2008, 03:40 PM
PURCHASE A ZUNE!
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Diddly on September 26, 2008, 04:48 PM
Well, after about 2 and 1/4 years of reliable service, my Nano appears to be about to bite the dust. I've been having battery issues for a while, but now it's getting to where I lose 25% of my battery power after about 10-15 minutes of listening to music. Not cool, especially since my iPod is a necessity walking around campus. I'll probably pick up one of the new Nanos, unless someone can persuade me into buying one of the 80GB+ models (considering I only put music and pics on my iPod and my 4GB nano is only over half full).
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on December 13, 2008, 04:24 PM
i got one of the new ipod nano's recently and now my old nano isn't recognized by itunes.  in the past i have been able to use multiple ipods... what is different now and what do i need to do to fix it?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 13, 2008, 04:39 PM
Check your preferences when it comes to iPods John.  I'm not 100% sure where it is, but there is a selection for iTunes to only connect to a specific iPod.

I'll play around with iTunes and see if I can get a more specific answer for you.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on December 13, 2008, 07:13 PM
thanks for the quick reply.  the ole' reset-a-roonie did the trick. 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: iFett on December 26, 2008, 01:21 PM
I finally got an iPod after all these years (8GB touch) and I have a question about transferring my music that's on my PC.  Do I have to sit and baby this thing with each album or can you set it just to download your entire library?  Also - does everything  have to be done from the iTunes site - transferring/purchases, etc..?....and what's the best FM modulator thingamagigy to get for your vehicle? 

Not looking forward to dropping this puppy.   :-\
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: knashdx on December 26, 2008, 01:58 PM
I finally got an iPod after all these years (8GB touch) and I have a question about transferring my music that's on my PC.  Do I have to sit and baby this thing with each album or can you set it just to download your entire library?  Also - does everything  have to be done from the iTunes site - transferring/purchases, etc..?....and what's the best FM modulator thingamagigy to get for your vehicle? 

Not looking forward to dropping this puppy.   :-\



Mikey -


You will load ITunes onto your computer. Then any MP3's you have on your computer the system will/should auto pick up. When you are ready to start copying CD you put each one in your disk drive and iTunes will find the CD. You can either download all the music from the CD or specific songs. Depending on speed of your computer the down load time varries. Depending on how much you are downloading off each disk you can walk away while it is downloading.

When you are done downloading all your music highlight all your music and right click. Scroll down to the section that says "Find Album artwork" and click that. Once that is all done you can sync it to your iPod. First sync will take the longest so once you start have something else to do as this WILL take awhile.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: iFett on December 26, 2008, 02:27 PM
I already have iTunes on my PC - so I have to use that program for everything then?  Also, are you saying that I need to re-rip all of my CDs over again through iTunes? 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: knashdx on December 26, 2008, 03:30 PM
If you already have your CD's through Itunes for an older ipod, then all you have to do is update your device history and then sync it all onto the new ipod.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: iFett on December 28, 2008, 12:47 AM
Never owned an iPod and this thing came with pretty much no instructions.  It has a padlock on the display and only shows the usb cable connecting to iTunes on the screen before it shuts off after a few seconds so I can't even access any features of the device.  Lame.  Can't even figure out how to mass transport my music files to iTunes either.  I'm usually on the uppity-up on tech stuff, but I'm baffled on this one.  Meh....Will probably just return the POS.   >:(
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Diddly on December 28, 2008, 03:21 AM
Ok so I'm assuming you already have a folder/program full of music files that you've already put on your PC. What you should be able to do is open up iTunes, click File, then click "Add Folder to Library" and you should be able to select said folder full of music and add it to iTunes. If that doesn't work try "Add File to Library" where you can select individual files and add them (or highlight and add multiple files). Try that, hopefully it gets your music onto iTunes.

As for the padlock on the screen, it sounds like your iPod is locked. There should be a switch somewhere on the device to unlock it (I'm unfamiliar with the Touches so if it's like any other iPod check for a red/orange mark next to a switch and slide it to where the red/orange isn't showing). Again, try that and report back to see if that solves the problem.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: iFett on December 29, 2008, 03:19 PM
Looks like I had iTunes v4 so I had to update to v8 which only took 6 hours over my dial up connection.  It then allowed me to unlock my iPod and sync it.  Now I'm updating to another version of the iTouch software so it'll be a few more hours here.  Never really needed high speed internet at home, but it looks like it may be time to upgrade.   :-\

**K - I was able to mass transfer my entire library over to iTunes and it's converting them all right now, but what's up with some of the album artwork?  Nothing for Aerosmith (greatest hits) Blue Oyster Cult (On Flame w Rock n Roll) and quite a few of my singles so far.  Is there a way to import album artwork from another source?  Obviously this seems important to me as you identify albums by picture with the itouch...I didn't have this problem with several of the other music players that came preloaded with my PC.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Deanpaul on December 30, 2008, 01:16 PM
Do yourself a favor and return the iPod like you said you would two days ago.  You're too stupid and bitchy to own one.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: iFett on December 30, 2008, 01:31 PM
Do yourself a favor and return the iPod like you said you would two days ago.  You're too stupid and bitchy to own one.

Behavior like this makes me think twice about this site nowadays.  Totally uncalled for and I'm not reducing myself to third grade level retaliations like I had to do several months back.

PM me Deanpaul if you want to take this personal - for whatever reason.   :-* 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Deanpaul on December 30, 2008, 01:49 PM
Just sayin'.  All I hear is bitching about one of the simplest music players on the planet.  All your problems with the iPod are because it didn't come with much instruction.  Which you seem to have not bothered reading.  Little details such as minimum system requirements.  But no, it's the iPod's fault.  It's a POS as you say.  Sure.  But you're running an out of date, four year old version of iTunes and wondering why it takes hours to install a major software update over dial up.

Take the iPod back and continue to live in 2004.  You'll be much happier.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: knashdx on December 30, 2008, 03:31 PM
Just sayin'.  All I hear is bitching about one of the simplest music players on the planet.  All your problems with the iPod are because it didn't come with much instruction.  Which you seem to have not bothered reading.  Little details such as minimum system requirements.  But no, it's the iPod's fault.  It's a POS as you say.  Sure.  But you're running an out of date, four year old version of iTunes and wondering why it takes hours to install a major software update over dial up.

Take the iPod back and continue to live in 2004.  You'll be much happier.

Instead why not go to Apple.com (http://support.apple.com/manuals/#ipod) and you can pull up a manual for your I-Touch. Once you pull it up save it to your computer as it is in a .pdf format and it will give you all the answers you need, and if not bookmark support as you can ask them questions and they will e-mail answers to you.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: iFett on December 30, 2008, 04:17 PM
Take the iPod back and continue to live in 2004.  You'll be much happier.

Thank you for the civilized response Deanpaul.

Instead why not go to Apple.com (http://support.apple.com/manuals/#ipod)

Thanks Ryan.  Apparently I misplaced the tiny instruction booklet.


Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 30, 2008, 04:54 PM
If you're still having problems getting album artwork, one way to do it would be to find the album on Amazon, copy the picture then paste it into iTunes.  It could be a bit tedious, but it works.   :D
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: knashdx on December 31, 2008, 08:19 AM
Instead why not go to Apple.com (http://support.apple.com/manuals/#ipod)

Thanks Ryan.  Apparently I misplaced the tiny instruction booklet.





No problem. I actually went there and got my booklet when I was having problems with my iPod. It comes in handy to have once in awhile.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Jeff on December 31, 2008, 01:41 PM
PURCHASE A ZUNE!

Zune 30 Bugging Out Everywhere (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/692103/Zune_30_Bugging_Out_Everywhere.html)

Crazy...  lots or reports of Zune music players locking up today.  Rumors out there are saying it's a hidden virus in the software or maybe the work of some disgruntled Microsoft employees, I've even read a few apple conspiracy theories out there.   ::)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on December 31, 2008, 02:31 PM
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Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Sprry75 on December 31, 2008, 03:44 PM
Wow.  I bet the eighteen people that own Zunes are pissed.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Theo Zissou on December 31, 2008, 07:29 PM
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1453/zunekhanyy7.jpg)

lol :P Well i happen to have a zune 30. I use it everyday in my car, and have been really happy with it, no problem until today. It was miserable today listening to the radio again :( pretty much how i remember it. all commercials.  So i guess they didn't program it to handle leap years and the internal clock didn't understand today. It will fix on it's own when tomorrow hits. crazy stuff. No denying Ipod controls the mp3 market, but I've always preferred zune. I'm sure this press doesn't help.  IT was one of the top story's on cnn today. calling it "Z2k". :P
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Chris on January 1, 2009, 01:33 PM
Wow.  I bet the eighteen people that own Zunes are pissed.

Hey, I'm the nineteenth. :P Lucky for me, I don't buy the hard drive versions of MP3 players so I wasn't affected.

I hate Apple/Mac and while I see some good in the newer IPOD products, I will never infect my PC with the software known as ITunes.

What is so wrong with making the device have a drive letter and letting me drag and drop my files to that drive? Have a little piece of software that let's you organize and make playlists. Past that, you need nothing else. No conversions. No DRM. No tie to one computer.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: JangoTat on January 1, 2009, 02:01 PM
so is there a way to fix the album art covers on Itunes? I was putting some older cds on itunes and when i hit the get album art covers button it was giving me art work for some of their newer albums or art work for completly other bands. example being the first three days grace cd....it gave me some artwork for a group called 3 graced or soemthing...its not the same cover at all. help please. oh and do you HAVE to keep all your songs on your computer or can you just delete them to save space? this itunes thing is a lot more complicated that the last program I used for my Dell jukebox aka The Brick. (mp3)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: JediMAC on January 1, 2009, 03:30 PM
so is there a way to fix the album art covers on Itunes?

This happens often, as you'll soon discover.  There'll also be many album covers iTunes can't find at all, so the following "fix" will help you fill in those glaring holes too.

First, just delete the cover that Itunes automatically stuck in there by right-clicking on the album cover and selecting "Clear Downloaded Artwork" from the drop down list.  You may be able to skip this step altogether, and just do the subsequent stuff, but I've never bothered to find out.

There's lots of ways to stick the appropriate album cover in there, but the easiest is probably to just go to Amazon.com's music section, and search for your album.  Once you have that page, just right-click on the album cover shown (or pick one of the other versions the "Amazon users" have included below it), and select "Copy" from the drop down list.  No need to save it, "copy" works just fine.

Lastly, go back into your iTunes album page, and right-click on the album you're adding the cover art for, and select "Get Info" from list (first item).  If you get a pop-up with a question after that, just click "Yes".  Then you have your album profile up, and you just go over to the Artwork square in the lower right corner, right-click inside of it, and select "Paste".  That should stick the cover you copied from Amazon in there.  Then just click "OK" at the bottom, and wallah, you should be good to go!  Good luck...

I finally joined the 21st century and got my ass into iTunes not too long ago, and this was one of the first fixes I needed assistance with too, so enjoy my helpful New Year mood.  :P

- M
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: JangoTat on January 1, 2009, 03:52 PM
Sweet Thanks a lot! ;D
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: JediMAC on January 1, 2009, 05:10 PM
My pleasure.

Though as I scroll back a few posts now, I see that Fury already mentioned the same thing.  Just in slightly less (verbose) detail...  :P
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on January 1, 2009, 05:40 PM
I remember a guy named JediMac, but he wasn't really helpful, so who's this new 'thing'?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: JediMAC on January 1, 2009, 08:51 PM
I remember a guy named JediMac, but he wasn't really helpful, so who's this new 'thing'?

 ::)

Also, if someone could pass along to Jared (and the rest of the Coman-bashers) that it only took me 1.97 years to finally take my (5G-late '96) iPod out of the box and start using it, I'd appreciate it...  I want to keep my technological reputation intact.

Great X-mas gift, albeit nearly 2 years late.  ::)

God, I feel like I'm in high school again, making my bitchin' mix-tapes!  :-X
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on January 1, 2009, 10:10 PM
Are you typing this on your new 3 year old computer?

Oh...I got a new iPod Touch...I love it
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 2, 2009, 07:39 PM
I've finally joined 2001 and gotten an iPod too.  Can anyone recommend a good FM transmitter to play it in my vehicle?  My Ford Escape (2003) doesn't have an ipod jack, so I need to improvise.  Do you need to spend $100 for one, or will a much cheaper one work just fine?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on January 2, 2009, 08:03 PM
Jesse,
I don't know what your stereo is in the Escape, but I'd suggest for about $100 more than just the transmitter you can get a new after market deck with iPod controls on it.  Future Shop/Best Buy/Visions all run sales almost every week for decks with iPod controllers that are probably better than your factory unit.  I've yet to hear anyone really satisfied with their FM transmitter in terms of sound quality (comes out sounding like an FM station, go figure) and there can sometimes be hazy connections, or so I've heard.  Yeah, it's $200 but you do get a new deck out of it as well.  Convince the missus you need new speakers too, else you won't be able to fully appreciate the iPod. :-X
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 3, 2009, 03:08 AM
Yeah, it's $200 but you do get a new deck out of it as well.  Convince the missus you need new speakers too, else you won't be able to fully appreciate the iPod. :-X

Well you know, those back speakers are getting a little worn, especially the sub.  I like the way you think.  ;)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: iFett on January 3, 2009, 01:46 PM
I've been debating on updating the head unit/CD player in my Explorer, but it looks to need a major overhaul in terms of putting an aftermarket deck in so I'm probably just going for one of those $30-$40 transmitters at Target.  Might not sound the greatest, but I'm done with subs/amps/etc in my vehicles.

This is my first year with an iPod and I'm still cleaning up everything in iTunes.  It split up all of my soundtracks and some of my other albums, but I'm getting closer.   :)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: BrentS on January 3, 2009, 02:23 PM
I have the Belkin  version FM transmitter (comes with little cup holder things to store the iPod on).  I don't like it.  It seems to cut out a lot, but perhaps that's a function of being near Chicago where its very difficult to get open FM frequencies.  My parents have the Griffin version (iTrip I think its called) which was around $80 I think.  Their's seems to work flawlessly.  If I decide to get a new one, that's the version I'm buying.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on January 3, 2009, 02:35 PM
If anyone had a tape player in their vehicle...buy a $8 tape w/ jack which plugs in to your iPod.  It is decent sound quality, no having to fiddle w/ FM stations and it is dang cheap
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on January 3, 2009, 07:29 PM
I've been debating on updating the head unit/CD player in my Explorer, but it looks to need a major overhaul in terms of putting an aftermarket deck in so I'm probably just going for one of those $30-$40 transmitters at Target.  Might not sound the greatest, but I'm done with subs/amps/etc in my vehicles.

This is my first year with an iPod and I'm still cleaning up everything in iTunes.  It split up all of my soundtracks and some of my other albums, but I'm getting closer.   :)

you might check and see if your car factory stereo already has a changer jack in the back.  i bought one of these for my new truck and it is much nicer than the POS fm transmitter that i have.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400019009969&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem=
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: iFett on January 3, 2009, 08:52 PM
you might check and see if your car factory stereo already has a changer jack in the back.  i bought one of these for my new truck and it is much nicer than the POS fm transmitter that i have.

Interesting.  Will definately check out.  Thanks for the tip!  Also thanks to both Matt(s) on  the Amazon trick.  Works like a charm!   ;D
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on February 19, 2009, 10:40 PM
i may be in the market for a new ipod.   i did a quick search and didn't see anything new coming out soon, but ipod always seems to have something right around the corner.  if i buy a new nano now am i gonna be pissed in 2 months when they release a 32gb?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt on March 11, 2009, 12:23 PM
(http://images.apple.com/ipodshuffle/gallery/images/ipodshuffle_image1_20090311.jpg)

The new iPod Shuffle. (http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/)

(It talks to you!)   :o
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Sprry75 on March 12, 2009, 06:17 AM
(It talks to you!)   :o

Now all that unholy thing needs is a red eye:

(http://flowstate.homestead.com/files/hal9000.gif)

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on March 12, 2009, 04:57 PM
(http://images.apple.com/ipodshuffle/gallery/images/ipodshuffle_image1_20090311.jpg)

The new iPod Shuffle. (http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/)

(It talks to you!)   :o

Cool.  But the bad news is it won't work with third party earphones.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Morgbug on March 12, 2009, 06:51 PM
Cool.  But the bad news is it won't work with third party earphones.

Awesome.  I wonder if they recall how that proprietary stuff worked for them back in the eighties.  Guessing the answer is no. 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Nathan on March 25, 2009, 10:25 PM
Why the iPod is doomed | MSN Money (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/why-the-ipod-is-doomed.aspx)

"What Apple does best is make beautiful hardware," says Dalton Caldwell, chief of internet music service Imeem. "If we live in this universe where hardware matters less, Apple will be in a poor position in the market."
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Nathan on March 29, 2009, 09:30 PM
Orson Scott Card on the new Shuffle (http://hatrack.com/osc/reviews/everything/2009-03-15.shtml)

"I mean, if I have to use their earphones in order to control the Shuffle, and I can't keep them in my ears, then who am I playing the songs for, passing insects?

Isn't this how things always go? They get a goal in mind ("Smaller! No, smaller than that!") and they lose track of the possibility that they might have already achieved the goal and that to go farther will be destructive.

It's as if they were trying to build the world's smallest car, and they did it, but then they kept on going and now the car is so small that you can't actually fit the steering wheel or pedals inside -- or a person, either, for that matter -- so now you have to stand on the rear bumper and control it with a remote.

So you haven't invented the world's smallest car, you've invented the world's most cumbersome scooter."
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 29, 2009, 11:47 PM
The chief reason why I won't get one.  I hate using headphones that go inside the ear.  They hurt after a while.

I can't say enough good things about my Bose QC3 headphones!
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: iFett on March 30, 2009, 11:35 AM
The chief reason why I won't get one.  I hate using headphones that go inside the ear.  They hurt after a while.

Is that where they go?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on March 31, 2009, 07:16 PM
Why the iPod is doomed | MSN Money (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/why-the-ipod-is-doomed.aspx)

"What Apple does best is make beautiful hardware," says Dalton Caldwell, chief of internet music service Imeem. "If we live in this universe where hardware matters less, Apple will be in a poor position in the market."

i am not sure i really understand this.  you still have to have something to play your digital music right? 
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Nathan on March 31, 2009, 08:16 PM
True, but as online/wireless music becomes more prolific (the theory goes), the hardware itself is no longer a snazzy storage device but simply a means to access stuff that is already out there. Specialization will be less important as long as it has a good connection. We're already seeing this to an extent with the phones that can also stream music, a function which the iPhone itself is assimilating. Not to mention using the web to listen on home computers, e.g. Pandora, Last.fm.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: I Am Sith on May 7, 2009, 11:04 AM
So I know that Matt_Fury uses Bose QC3 over-ear headphones with his iPod, but what does everyone else use?  I just bought a pair of Sennheiser CX-400 headphones and think they are great.  I'd recommend them to anyone that uses in-ear headphones.  Anyone else have headphone recommendations?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: MistaBinks on May 10, 2009, 12:38 PM
Quick question as I am a total i-pod newb. I have never owned one but I am ready to take the plunge. As a first time i-pod buyer, is the Touch a good purchase for me? Also, I see that the median price for the 16gb Touch is $295. Should I buy now or is there a price break in the near future? Thanks to anyone who replies. I am pretty lost when it comes to this area.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on May 10, 2009, 06:56 PM
Quick question as I am a total i-pod newb. I have never owned one but I am ready to take the plunge. As a first time i-pod buyer, is the Touch a good purchase for me? Also, I see that the median price for the 16gb Touch is $295. Should I buy now or is there a price break in the near future? Thanks to anyone who replies. I am pretty lost when it comes to this area.

this question reminds me... my wife just got a 16gb iphone which to me looks alot like the touch, but the refurb only cost $150.  are there any real advantages to getting the touch over the iphone?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Chris M on May 10, 2009, 09:52 PM
So I know that Matt_Fury uses Bose QC3 over-ear headphones with his iPod, but what does everyone else use?  I just bought a pair of Sennheiser CX-400 headphones and think they are great.  I'd recommend them to anyone that uses in-ear headphones.  Anyone else have headphone recommendations?

I use Phillips behind the ear sport headphones.  I can't stand stuff in my ears and these are perfect for running/lifting as I can just run the cord up through my shirt or wrap the excess cord around my arm band.  Oh yeah, and my iPod is the 8GB nanochormatic in black.  I haven't yet convinced myself I really need an iPhone.  I just can't justify the expense.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Scott on May 11, 2009, 01:15 AM
I have a 32GB touch and I love it.  My only real gripe is not being able to connect everywhere ala a phone/blackberry etc.  It sucks to have all of the apps and stuff an iPhone has but not the connectivity unless you can steal WiFi somwhere.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: ruiner on May 12, 2009, 06:45 PM
Still waiting for the 150GB iphone.

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: john todd on May 13, 2009, 06:22 PM
my 1st gen nano stopped working the other day.  it will charge and reset and the lock button will make the light go on, but i can't make it play at all.  is it just busted?

 i know i should probably just give it up... i already have a new one, but it was nice to just hook up in the car and leave in the glove box.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: I Am Sith on September 16, 2009, 12:00 AM
I guess I'm the latest victim of an iPod crapping out.

My 80G Classic gave me the big red 'x' but I was able to get it to reset finally.  Then I received the message 'Use iTunes to restore'.  When I try to reformat it, nothing is happening.  I get a window on my computer that comes up and says 'Autoplay' and then I get another window that says my iPod needs to be reformatted using iTunes.  When iTunes opens, nothing happens.  Am I missing something that I'm supposed to be doing because there are no additional on-screen instructions that come up after iTunes opens (per the owners manual, I'm supposed to follow the on-screen instructions...)?

I'm assuming that I'm going to need to bring it in for service or get a new one, but wanted to know if any of you have had the same thing happen and what did you do about it.  Can you let me know?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: I Am Sith on September 16, 2009, 10:36 PM
Yep, spoke with Apple today and the hard drive is fried.  This thing is less than 2 years old and it's already fried.  What a load of crap.

So now I can pay $140 to get it repaired, or I can spend $250 for a new 160G Classic.  I definitely don't need that much capacity, but I also don't have the $ to get a 64G Touch.  That would be the perfect capacity for my needs and it would give me the bigger screen to watch movies.  But I just can't justify the 4 bills they are charging for it.  4 bills is a lot of Kubricks that I could buy instead...

Advice?
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Diddly on September 17, 2009, 12:46 AM
Something similar happened to me last year, I ended up getting a 8GB Nano. It was only around $150 and is perfect since I don't deal with movies and my music library isn't that big (at least what I put on my iPod). I think 16GB are around $200-250, but it all depends on the model/size you want really.

I actually think they just released a new generation of iPods with built in video cameras... at least that was something I briefly noticed in an Apple email before I deleted it.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Master_Phruby on September 17, 2009, 10:35 AM
Why not just get a Zune HD? It's the same as an iPod Touch but with HD radio, HD compatible video, XBox360 compatibilty, better interface and multitouch OLED screen. It costs less and the best part is it's not made by Apple. It's made by the other great Satan, Microsoft.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31PxMUF9S-L._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/Zune-Video-MP3-Player-Black/dp/B002JPITXY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1253194366&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Zune-Video-MP3-Player-Black/dp/B002JPITXY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1253194366&sr=8-1)
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: name on October 9, 2009, 06:04 PM
The university where I work had a contest to promote their podcast site/facebook fan page.  They've been running a game for months centered around the idea of space aliens, and they asked for the photographic evidence of an alien on campus.  I photoshopped up this picture of our university President shaking hands with a visiting faculty member:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/name7574/7318_184097996080_110563151080_4101.jpg)

I won the contest, and I'm now the proud owner of a alien green, 16gig, 5th gen Ipod Nano. 

Great way to end the week.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: I Am Sith on October 9, 2009, 11:59 PM
That's hysterical!  Congratulations!
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Master_Phruby on September 1, 2010, 04:26 PM
At Apple's music event press conference, Apple annoced a new iPod Touch. It's basically an iPhone 4 without the phone.
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/09/500x_image1_20100901_01.jpg)

They also replaced the iPod Nano with a 2" screen version.

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/09/500x_overview_gallery_silver20100901.jpg)

Apple TV gets updated to a smaller streaming only version with no Hdd for $99.
(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/09/340x_atv6.jpg)

They also updated the iTunes logo and came out with a music social site called Ping. Now you can Bing Ping!

It also sounds like the iPod Classic is RIP.

All the Cool New Stuff From Apple Today (http://gizmodo.com/5627368/all-the-cool-new-stuff-from-apple-today)

Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: EdSolo on September 2, 2010, 06:59 AM
Not sure if killing the iPod classic was a good idea...not everyone has an iPhone and not everyone wants an iPad.  My 8 GB nano has reached full capacity so I may have to check out the new nanos.  Not sure if I like the idea of a touch screen version or not.  I am hoping the power adapter connector is the same size so I won't have to buy a new car stereo interface.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: Master_Phruby on May 30, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apple released a 16gb ipod touch without a front facing camera for $229. This replaces the remaining "cheap" 4th generation 16gb model. Not sure why anyone would want this considering a Nexus 7 is $199 and does much more.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/30/apple-unveils-new-ipod-touch/

Also 100 million iPods have been sold since 2007.
Title: Re: iPod-racing
Post by: EdSolo on May 30, 2013, 03:19 PM
I ditched my ipod nano and got a 64 GB iPhone 5.  I wonder if the ipod is on the way out with things like the ipad and touch.  Considering the nano hasn't gone past 16 GB, it doesn't really seem that viable anymore.