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Title: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 19, 2006, 10:35 AM
This is an idea that I've been kicking around for quite some time. The idea is to organize the biggest and most ambitious group project we have ever done. An entire Star Wars WORLD. This project would go on for an entire year and hopefully be displayed at C4 next year (if we can get a sponser). I'll donate space on my new customizing web site for work in progress pictures of everything and display the final results.

The idea is to get multiple customizing forums together to create citizens for this world. All these characters would go into a large diorama complete with buildings, streets and ships of our design. We could do a planet that has been seen on screen before or something totally new.

This thread is designed to get ideas and volunteers and try to organize this huge undertaking. Everybody is welcome to submit suggestions, time† and their work. Let's talk about it here and we can talk about this June 24th at 9pm est in the chat room.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 10:59 AM
It's a fantastic idea... I know that there was a Mos Eisley diorama made before at a Celebration... or at least I think so.

So, in my mind it would be really cool to create something that is not from Tatooine, but instead a Coruscant diorama.† Of course Tatooine is always going to be about the most recognizeable area in Star Wars, and you can make a joint Mos Eisley/Mos Espa area, along with even Jabba's Palace, so maybe that is the way to go.† You could even have a little moisture farm or two out in the corner of it.

This is a big project and it will take a group effort for it to work, but I think there needs to be a clear leader/captain of this project to ensure it goes according to plan - I would suggest something living in the Los Angeles area as that would be most convenient.† After all, you don't want 10 chiefs and only one Indian.

I am pretty sure this is something I won't even be able to attend, but I'd be happy to donate some figures to it and run some updates on the front page at www.yakface.com

We could maybe even make some sort of t-shirts for everyone who participates.

What gets done with the figures afterwards?

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 19, 2006, 11:21 AM
Since I'm in the LA area, I was planning on overseeing the entire thing but have a number of people be over each aspect of the project. I know there are a few others in the area (Darth Delicious, Darth Anton) that could help with organization. Each group leader would over a specific aspect of the project. For example, I need someone to be over the design of the diorama. Another could be over concept and organization. Another could be over figure and ship customs etc. We need to come up with categories and jobs for whoever volunteers.† Here are a few group sections for this project.

Diorama building and design
Figure and ship building
Concept pictures and overall look
Publicity
Logistics, mailing and transportation

I'm sure we can come up with more duties. Besides planet location,† we should come up with a time period. We could even do a planet that has never been seen before allowing us complete freedom on design.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 11:27 AM
Good plan Phruby.  I would like to be part of the publicity for it, as well as assist in the custom figures.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 11:27 AM
I suppose another thing that will need to do is create some sort of schedule so it isn't all done at the last minute.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 19, 2006, 11:52 AM
My mom would never go for this sadly, sending my toys of to people I don't "know". But I will be happy to do publicity over at TSE.net. I'm sorry that that is the only thing I can do but my mom is uber strict. Maybe my sister can send them. I dunno, but I'll try and help with what I can.

Smarty
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 19, 2006, 12:01 PM
Whatever you can help do is very much appreciated Smarty. There are also concept drawings that need to be done as well as scheduling. I could also use some help on web site design and documenting the work in progress shots we get thru out the year. Lots of ways to participate if you can't send something in for display.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 19, 2006, 01:21 PM
I'd love to do whatever I can do to help on this one.† I'd be most interested in the figure and dio building, and maybe even publicity.† If I ever get around to making my website, this project will get a TON of space.† What world were we thinking of doing?† Tatoonie?† Courasaunt?† LMK if I can do anything to help.† Great idea Phurby!
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 19, 2006, 03:28 PM
Well, Im up for just about anything. I can raid my parts box and whip out custom figs too. I wil spread the word on the few message boards I haunt. What ever you need drop me a line Phruby Im on it.

Incidently, I also had another Idea. We could basicly kill a few birds with one stone, and use the Group project and Custom Challenge concepts for making customs for this project as well.

Let me know what you guys think of this, if not Id be happy to run  an additional side project customs thread for this.

What do you think?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 04:07 PM
I like Phruby's idea of it being a new planet... we could create an all† new planet, and make this almost like a Star Wars Galaxies theme...

For time period, I say go with the OT era.† But then we're probably going to need some Stormtroopers in it... I say that NO POTF2 BUFF ARE ALLOWED OR IT WILL RUIN THE PROJECT.† †ESPECIALLY NONE OF BUFF STORMTROOPERS.† ;D

I'll donate a few Commtech Stormies to it, and a customs challenge of "everyday citizens" might be what we need for this to add to the variety where everyone is willing to dontate their submission to it.

Maybe the whole thing could be set up on a ping pong table.

I think it definitely needs to be some sort of city environment, like a Mos Eisley type city on a new world.

 :)

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 19, 2006, 04:23 PM
What about a city on the edge of a jungle or water/swamp area? 
That way we could get some great creatures in there...

If you say a ping pong table is the limit, maybe 1/4th or 1/6th of it be jungle/swamp and the rest city?
Then we could do a "great wall" like in KOTOR. Where once you go outside the walls... its dangerous!!



Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 04:39 PM
I really like that idea of 1/4 (or more) of it being wilderness... very cool.† Aquarium decoration supplies really could work well for that.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 19, 2006, 05:15 PM
FANTASTIC idea Phruby. I'd love to help in whatever way I can. :) Preferably with diorama design/constrution and of course with figure/ship creation.

Niub Niub's Death Star set-up at C3 was pretty cool, but it was all done on the spot and was really only set up the last day. And 95% of it was done by amatuers and it was all the same exact hallway. To get the best results I think we will have to do at least 95% of the construction ahead of time. Which means we will have to have some deadlines set and unlike the monthly challenges we need to actually enforce those to make sure this isn't done entirely at the last minute. We are going to need the help of as many people as possible, so perhaps it would be a good idea to post this at FFURG, and maybe even at Scum if you haven't already. With a bunch of people working we are really going to need a good leadership system like you and Justin have said, with you of course being the Project Leader. Reporting to you would be two asistant managers, one on the the production side and one on the logisitical side. Below them would be team leaders for each of the different "departments." And then below them would be everyone else.

I was bored and made a little flowchart to illustrate this... (http://sithlordchaos.250free.com/Organization.jpg)

As for a topic... Tatooine is great everyone always recognizes it and it is fairly easy to do. But at the same time it has been done before at C2. The Death Star is also a great place to do, but like Tatooine it has already been done at C3. Coruscant could be cool but that would almost guarntee that the pieces would all be rather difficult to transport to the convention, either by mail, or car. My vote goes towards a fan-fiction planet. It would be great to throw all of our minds together and see what we can come up with. I was going to suggest a vegeation type planet as well, but there have been about 7 replies since I started typing. We could eventually run a contest to see what the name will be. Perhaps we could do it at the convention and the winner would get some sort of prize.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 19, 2006, 05:22 PM
BTW I think a ping-pong table may be a little bit small, if we have enough people bigger would be better. :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 19, 2006, 05:44 PM
Nice flowchart, it makes things a little easier to understand.† I think that the size all depends on the number interested, but I do think a ping pone table would be a little small.† And if nobody minds, I'd be happy to post this at 'scum.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 05:45 PM
Maybe two ping pong tables connected together?† I don't know.

Sure post it at Scum, I'd link it to this thread probably... once we get a more firm idea, I'll post it at Yakface.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 19, 2006, 05:57 PM
I'm in. This summer is gonna be busy and next year, well here are my courses:

AP Physics
AP Biology
AP Economics
AP English

ROP Medical/Nursing

*AP = Advanced Placement        *ROP = Class 6-9pm + Internship at Hospital


I'll do whatever I can. Already, I can think of three primary types of planets in the Star Wars Universe

Tatooine / Geonosis Style : Sand, Rock, and lightly inhabited cities. I used this kind of setting for Ezatam IV in my photonovels.

Coruscant / Cloud City / Mygeeto Style: Industrial and metropolitan planets. I'd assume Mygeeto was an ok place before it got torn apart by the Clone Wars.

Yavin IV / Borealis Style: Lush Forests, Temples, and whatnot. Spooky Sith magic and Rebel/Imperial hideaways.


Contrary to CHEWIE's OT idea, I think a Pre-Clone Wars Mygeeto would be a really cool planet to customize. There's an idea with a lot of potential, plus, buildings in the style of Owen would look excellent. Other than that, OT sounds good to me. Sweet idea Phrubes.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 19, 2006, 06:03 PM
Plus, we could have the bridge before it was torn apart, that would be a real defining part of the Dio.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 19, 2006, 06:06 PM
Very cool idea, I like it!
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 19, 2006, 06:10 PM
Nice flowchart, it makes things a little easier to understand.  I think that the size all depends on the number interested, but I do think a ping pone table would be a little small.  And if nobody minds, I'd be happy to post this at 'scum.

I'd say let Phruby post it since it is his idea unless he gives you the ok to do so.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 19, 2006, 06:18 PM
CloneCommander1 go ahead and post it over at scum and stir up some action there. I really don't like to go in that place.† ;)

I'll go talk about it over at FFURG and CC. Can someone take it over to GH?

Great flowchart Ryan. That's the beginning of the organization I would like to see. As for time period how about a new planet like Dantooine. We can have an industrial-city area and some wilderness. The time could be between  ep3 and ep4. That way we can get some cool looking imperial-clone hybrids and some beginnings of the rebel alliance characters.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 19, 2006, 06:24 PM
Dantooine would be really cool, there are some great shots on KOTOR that could be used for reference.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Quazar on June 19, 2006, 06:25 PM
The thing is, Tatooine is the most famous and most iconic planet in SW history.

Coming up with something really obscure, especially if it hasn't even been on-screen, seems like a bad idea. †Just not very accessible or recognizable. †Why create something if no one knows what it is?

Tatooine also feels, frankly, like the easiest idea.

I think the only real drawback is that it's been done before - Niubniub's amazing group Tatooine project from, I think, Celebration II.

He also did a Death Star group project, as well. †Both of those were great successes.

If not Tatooine or Death Star, the next best idea would probably be Hoth. †I can't imagine it would be feasible to do something as complex as Coruscant.

Anyway, †just one man's opinion....
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 19, 2006, 06:28 PM
I like Dantoonie, that seems like the best suggestion so far to me.
The problem to me with Hoth is that there is no real civillian life, and I think that would be a huge drawback to us.
I'll take it over to GH too if no one minds.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 19, 2006, 06:36 PM
I like Dantoonie, that seems like the best suggestion so far to me.
The problem to me with Hoth is that there is no real civillian life, and I think that would be a huge drawback to us.

Agreed. Tatooine would be ideal, but it has already been done. Hoth like you said would be cool but, there is almost no civilian life, and making that much realistic looking snow would sure be a mess. If we decide on a less regonizable world we could post some posters of the concpet art and some planetary background on some posters around the diorama.

We're going to need to have regular "meetings" in a chat room, or something similar, to update Phruby and the assistant Project leads on the progress.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 19, 2006, 06:41 PM
Do you think we need one seperate from the weekly customizing chat?† Or should we set up one only for this project.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Quazar on June 19, 2006, 06:44 PM
well, I committed the big sin of not reading everyone else's post before putting my own.

Ryan already talked about the niubniub stuff.

I also missed the "original planet" idea, which I think is best.  That way, you're not shooting for some arcane EU world, but creating something new that everyone can participate in and feel a part of.

A combination of a town with an Imperial base within it sounds like a solid idea.  Lots of "civlian" and fringe characters, plus loads of imperials.  And maybe the town is in or on the edge of a wilderness, so you can add plants and wildlife and varied terrain.

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: VF/501 on June 19, 2006, 06:53 PM
Count me in on this,  I can submit figures and Ideas.

How about Alderran or Utapau, post rise of the empire?
Both have nature+cities and wild life in close proximity to each other
Plus Alderran was a main palnet in the rebellion leader ship until its demise.

Or we could do Coronet City from Corellia. With Treasure Ship Row.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 19, 2006, 07:05 PM
Do you think we need one seperate from the weekly customizing chat? †Or should we set up one only for this project.

I think a seperate one is in order. That way it is just Phruby, the assistant project leads, and the team leaders.

well, I committed the big sin of not reading everyone else's post before putting my own.

Ryan already talked about the niubniub stuff.

I also missed the "original planet" idea, which I think is best. That way, you're not shooting for some arcane EU world, but creating something new that everyone can participate in and feel a part of.

A combination of a town with an Imperial base within it sounds like a solid idea. Lots of "civlian" and fringe characters, plus loads of imperials. And maybe the town is in or on the edge of a wilderness, so you can add plants and wildlife and varied terrain.



Yeah that was sort of what I was think of as well. That way we've got a nice bit of variety and there can be a bunch of differnt types of figures.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 19, 2006, 07:07 PM
Do you think we need one seperate from the weekly customizing chat?  Or should we set up one only for this project.

Does everyone have Teamspeak? We could find a server to pillage.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Vator on June 19, 2006, 07:27 PM
*Ahem, too excited...

This is an awesome suggestion! I have an idea for this new planet that I think most of ya'll will appreciate.

The customizing community here is lucky to have such a large contingent of customizers who appreciate military design and function. What if we were to create a local, planetary force that acted as suppliment to the Imperial Forces on the planet in terms of maintaining order and managing police activities? I think that the creation of such a force would provide a great oppertunity for those of us who are interested in military customs to have a chance to really 'have at it' and create some creative, original designs for this planet's troopers.

Whaddya think?


Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 19, 2006, 07:39 PM
What's teamspeak?

From what I can see we first need to agree on a time period, location and building zones. Maybe someone could design a map that we can use during discussions. I like Ryan's oranization chart and think we should start with this and refine it as time goes by. Weekly chat sessions would be a great help. Feel free to start spreading the word about this project at different sites and get the discussion flowing. I would like to have in about a month:
 
1: a time period
2: planet location
3: preliminary map of the diorama
4: group leaders assigned and a organization chart (it can change as time goes on)
5: some beginning concept drawings or references posted

I really think this thing should be set in time between ROTS and ANH. This way we can get the most people involved and we have the most fodder. I believe that there should be at least one city and possibily one hidden base. The rest could be jungles or waste lands.

Another suggest for location is the Spice mines of Kessel. We could have a small imperial outpost but have the entire planet ruled by the Black Sun crime synicate. We could have lots seedy looking characters running around. Lots of droids could be working on mining for Spice. Lots of industrial looking buildings. Maybe some rebel spys running around.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 19, 2006, 07:45 PM
A special military police is a great idea. We'll have to keep it in mind as this thing grows and changes.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 07:53 PM
I think that the idea of a fan fic world is the best, having some sort of small town with an Imperial garrison on it would rock... you could even have an alley way with a refugee Jedi getting shot down by Stormtroopers.

Then you could even have wilderness like suggested, with some animals and even an Imperial shuttle with a small group of troops patrolling the area.

Wow... I really like this.  And I agree, between EP3 and EP4 would be the best timeline, and I lean with it closer to the OT era, maybe a few years prior to ANH.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 19, 2006, 08:02 PM
I really like this idea too, maybe have a small rebel guerilla force carrying out small attacks, sort of a precursor to a full-fledged rebellion and civil war.† Maybe a little hidden base out in the wilderness?
Wow, I really like this idea!
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Fritzkrieg on June 19, 2006, 08:10 PM
I'm In!

I'll be happy to contribute. Sign me up for vehicle and Figure Cutoms. My personal favorite time periods would be either durring the Clone Wars or Durring the Rise of the Empire. I would also love to see some Jungle and some ruins. As soon as we nail down the Concept I'll get to work.

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 19, 2006, 08:28 PM
I have an idea you guys may or may not like... I would really like to get Owen D. as a part of this.† As you know he's made numerous Imperial playsets for me.† I am hesitant to send one of these one-of-a-kind masterpieces, but think I have an idea that really might make for a killer centerpiece.† I don't know about you guys, but I haven't seen ANYONE make the kind of buildings he's made.

What if we commission Owen to make some sort of Imperial fortress?† Kind of like this one -

(http://www.owenscustoms.com/base1.JPG)

I haven't mentioned this to Owen yet, but I think he might be interested.† Either Phruby or myself could collect the money, and send to Owen.† He would ship it directly to Phruby.

Afterwards, there would be a random drawing to see who wins it.† For each $10.00 you contribute, you get one entry.† So if you throw in $30.00, you get three chances to win... This way we could potentially raise hundreds of dollars and he could make a kickass playset for it, and one lucky winner can add it to their collection?  I would be willing to add to this and even take my name off the ballot to prove nothing is rigged.

Thoughts?

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 19, 2006, 08:50 PM
Something tells me there might be some expenses to putting on the whole thing. I don't know what booth space would cost. We might be able to find a sponser for that. Shipping items to and from the convention center would have a cost. These are things we can figure out later once we start to see things being made and how big this is going to be.

Could I get everyone that is planning on working on a committee to email me at master.phruby@verizon.net. Please include you real name, handle and what committee your interested in. I want to put together a email mailing list.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Clone Hunter on June 19, 2006, 08:57 PM
I think:

Between ROTS and ANH, good idea.
I think any random world would be kool, but what happened to Naboo during/after the Clone Wars?
I am willing to contribute some kind of figure or vehicle customs, even if they suck.
I am willing to host WIP and completed shots on my page. I can isolate it from my personal stuff.

I like the raffle idea. Count me in.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Quazar on June 19, 2006, 09:11 PM
I think a lot of us are very much on the same page about the kind of planet
we're talking about here.

I agree with the setting, between ROTS & ANH, but closer to ANH.  We could have
stormtroopers and a few older clone types thrown in.

Here are my thoughts -

Just riffing here, but the planet itself is like Tatooine (not in terms of geography), but in the
sense that it's an out of the way place that is home to a lot of criminal activity.

So an Imperial garrison was recently established to stem the rampant illegal activity.

But, meanwhile, a  proto-Rebel cell had already set up shop there, running guns &
equipment for the fledgling Alliance.

This way, we can have Imperials, rebels, criminals, etc.  We have Imperial bases, cantinas,
shops, palace for the local crimelord, a rebel hideout, hangar bays, whatever....

And the town/spaceport can be on the edge of a jungle or woods, so we can add some texture and
terrain.

We should have a contest to name the planet, everyone can submit, say, up to three entries and
everyone votes on them.

I also like the "raffle" idea, but I think we should definitely cap participation at, say, $30.  Don't want
anyone to be able to "buy" the victory by donating absurd amounts of money, especially since we're
not all in the same boat financially.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 19, 2006, 09:12 PM
I like the whole REpublic/Imperial transition period is s great Idea. I say we run with that. About the only good I can do since I am nothing more than a caveman with a keyboard, is to contribute my customs or help organise something to that effect. I wopuldn't be of much use any other way Im afraid. I apparantly missed the charts im going to go back a page or 2 to see if I van help anywhere else.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 19, 2006, 10:11 PM
Phurby has a good point about the cost factor. We need someone to work out the money logistics, first.

talk to nien numb and others who have participated in the previous C's and find out some basics.
I think any money that gets raised/contributed to the project should take care of the big things first.

We need to figure out a definate size to this project. One or Two tables. We should set the Zero level about 10 inchs above the table so we can have low points( pits and valleys)

I think we need a "secretary" to go through and chronical all these ideas that are being thrown in.

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 19, 2006, 10:26 PM
I may want in on this.  Where is C4 taking place and when?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 19, 2006, 11:21 PM
May 24-28, 2007 I belive.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 19, 2006, 11:35 PM
May 24-28, 2007 I belive.

And where?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 19, 2006, 11:38 PM


I think we need a "secretary" to go through and chronical all these ideas that are being thrown in.


I went through and came up with this,
Era between ROTS and ANH
Wilderness on the edge of the city
A wall that divides the wilderness from the city
A town with an imperial outpost/garrision
A local "police force" allied with the empire
An imperial patrol in the wilderness
A guerillia force in the town, sort of a precursor to the full rebellion
A guerilla base in the wilderness
A possible imperial outpost done by Owen
Tatooine style(concerning inhabitants)
Lots of crime
Possible buildings: Catianas, rebel strongholds, crime lord palaces, shops, hangars, spaceport
That's all I saw so far.

EDIT:  Dressel Rebel, C4 is in LA.


Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 20, 2006, 12:21 AM


I think we need a "secretary" to go through and chronical all these ideas that are being thrown in.


I went through and came up with this,
Era between ROTS and ANH
Wilderness on the edge of the city
A wall that divides the wilderness from the city
A town with an imperial outpost/garrision
A local "police force" allied with the empire
An imperial patrol in the wilderness
A guerillia force in the town, sort of a precursor to the full rebellion
A guerilla base in the wilderness
A possible imperial outpost done by Owen
Tatooine style(concerning inhabitants)
Lots of crime
Possible buildings: Catianas, rebel strongholds, crime lord palaces, shops, hangars, spaceport
That's all I saw so far.

EDIT:† Dressel Rebel, C4 is in LA.




Well ****.  If you want to do Planet Dressel with Dresselian guerrillas taking out stormies, we're already 80% there  ;)

However, being in L.A., i'm out. 

Good luck.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 20, 2006, 12:34 AM
What's teamspeak?



Teamspeak is a chat room service via microphone. I use it all the time for online gaming and it works pretty well. I'll email you soon. :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 20, 2006, 12:48 AM
I think it'd be cool if we were to make a few poster boards that have the name or nickname and a picture of everyone who participates that way everybody gets the credit they deserve. :)



I think we need a "secretary" to go through and chronical all these ideas that are being thrown in.


I went through and came up with this,
Era between ROTS and ANH
Wilderness on the edge of the city
A wall that divides the wilderness from the city
A town with an imperial outpost/garrision
A local "police force" allied with the empire
An imperial patrol in the wilderness
A guerillia force in the town, sort of a precursor to the full rebellion
A guerilla base in the wilderness
A possible imperial outpost done by Owen
Tatooine style(concerning inhabitants)
Lots of crime
Possible buildings: Catianas, rebel strongholds, crime lord palaces, shops, hangars, spaceport
That's all I saw so far.

EDIT:  Dressel Rebel, C4 is in LA.




Well ****. If you want to do Planet Dressel with Dresselian guerrillas taking out stormies, we're already 80% there ;)

However, being in L.A., i'm out.

Good luck.

There are still plenty of ways you could help even if you can't go. :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 20, 2006, 01:08 AM
I know it's still early, but one thing I think it would be nice to decide on is what phase of Imperial armor the troops will have... I think it should be consitent...

Should it be Phase 2 as seen in ROTS, or the helmets the Stormtroopers wear in the OT?† I'd love for them to have on OT helmets, but realize getting Phase 2 troopers would be a lot easier.  Plus those are really damn popular.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 20, 2006, 02:00 AM
Really awesome idea. Just had the time to go through the post now. I would love to help in anyway I can.

How about a Jedi purge type time frame after ROTS. Have a band of Jedi chased by the 501st and maybe Vader too? Or somthing like that. I like the town them too. Jedi staged revolt on some back water planet.

This is cool. I can't wait to get some things lock down and see the work.
roron corobb
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: VF/501 on June 20, 2006, 02:08 AM
Quote


I think we need a "secretary" to go through and chronical all these ideas that are being thrown in.


I went through and came up with this,
Era between ROTS and ANH
Wilderness on the edge of the city
A wall that divides the wilderness from the city
A town with an imperial outpost/garrision
A local "police force" allied with the empire
An imperial patrol in the wilderness
A guerillia force in the town, sort of a precursor to the full rebellion
A guerilla base in the wilderness
A possible imperial outpost done by Owen
Tatooine style(concerning inhabitants)
Lots of crime
Possible buildings: Catianas, rebel strongholds, crime lord palaces, shops, hangars, spaceport
That's all I saw so far.

EDIT: Dressel Rebel, C4 is in LA.





In stead of going fanfic there is a city that fits all of these requirements but you can go your own way on alot of it as it is from the novels.

Coronet City on Corellia.

Has an Imperial Endorsed government- Diktat Governor-General/Sector Moff
Has a local police allied with Imps- Corellian Security Force/One CorSec Plaza HQ
Part of the birth of the Rebellion- Corellian Treaty/Garm Bel Iblis
Criminals- Com'n everyone knows about Corellian Smugglers and Moff Firly Vorru's Golden Age
Wilderness- Seaside city and has woods areas around it- Corellian Sand Panther as a possible
creature for someone to design.
Coronet Space Port for the hangars and Space port area.
As for structures you can go pretty much your own way. †But we should make the Treasure Ship Row market place and all of its interesting Characters that would fit a Tatooine feel.
And you can easily make it in the ROTS-ANH era
As for a jedi purge CorSec was used to hunt down fugitive Jedi

The only images of Coronet are in comics but we all know how inaccurate and contradictory they can be i.e. ARC trooper. †So we have a lot of free reign in this one plus it is a recognizable place- Han Solo's home town, (young 9-12 year old Han Solo Figure anyone?).
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 20, 2006, 02:14 AM
Personally I'd love for it to be OT. Clones are good and all but it is the 30th aniversary next year and I think OT would fit the occasion better. I'm sure we could round up enough VOTC Stormtroopers and SAGA2 Sandies or Biker Scouts to make for a sizeable enough Imperial army. Besides it really only needs to be a small outpost not a full battillion of troopers. The more and more I think about it 1 Ping pong table will not be nearly enough space to fit in everything we are talking about making. I think we are going to need around 2 or 3.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 20, 2006, 09:59 AM
I know it's still early, but one thing I think it would be nice to decide on is what phase of Imperial armor the troops will have... I think it should be consitent...

Should it be Phase 2 as seen in ROTS, or the helmets the Stormtroopers wear in the OT?† I'd love for them to have on OT helmets, but realize getting Phase 2 troopers would be a lot easier.† Plus those are really damn popular.

 :)

You did some hybrid troopers, mixing them between the prequel and OT... i think that would work beautifully for this.
That way w arent just repainting clones, we are transitioning them. Any Stormtroopers would be the "first batch" of these new model troopers.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 20, 2006, 10:00 AM
SWEETness... 4 pages already, lol.. I'd love to help on this, I was actually thinking about this last night, one thing I'd like to see done is make sure we have someone incharge of certain things like the certain "armies" or types of "people" we'll have populating the diorama.
One thing I'd hate is for thngs to get started and when people start submit, you get 100 people sending you clone trooeprs with plaint splotches thrown on them...

I say get a couple "Team Leaders", have them incharge of certain factions, and set limits..
I'm not too versed in GAR military procedures and specifications(though, I have a insider somewhere that has some stuff in it)... but I'd like to see a cap on the amount of troops.
I'm all for the time frame between RotS and the OT, and if you think about it, it'd be perfect cause of what they'll have in store for us at C4(the new animated series and the live action series)...
I'd be all for helping out getting things started and sorted out... I'm a stay-at-home-dad, I only work part time on Tuesdays and the weekends... so I'd have the time.


I like Chewies idea about Owens work.. and I'd be all for chipping in a good $50 for it.. but like someone stated, I think there should be a cap on that.

I think before we continue to throw out ideas, we decide on the 2 main things...TIME PERIOD and PLANET.
Once we get those settled, I think we can go from there...
How about a couple polls on the different boards to get that settled and then we can move on?



I know it's still early, but one thing I think it would be nice to decide on is what phase of Imperial armor the troops will have... I think it should be consitent...

Should it be Phase 2 as seen in ROTS, or the helmets the Stormtroopers wear in the OT?† I'd love for them to have on OT helmets, but realize getting Phase 2 troopers would be a lot easier.† Plus those are really damn popular.

 :)

You did some hybrid troopers, mixing them between the prequel and OT... i think that would work beautifully for this.
That way w arent just repainting clones, we are transitioning them. Any Stormtroopers would be the "first batch" of these new model troopers.
I think this could be a good idea.. maybe we could all agree on a set look, that way they look semi-uniform... lol.. amd maybe have a couple stragglers off to the side...
I could see a Jango series, all old and grey sitting in a cantina drinking away his sorrows, lol.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 20, 2006, 10:23 AM
Nice idea!  I can at least contribute a couple figure customs, probably inhabitants.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 20, 2006, 11:07 AM
Hmmmm.... I have some Commtech Stormies that I wasn't sure what to do with, maybe I'll try and customize them a bit to see if you guys like the look I come up with.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 20, 2006, 11:16 AM
I was actually thinking.. what if we did a Stormie helmet on a clone body?
I can see if I can put in a request for an order of say..
20 of these? (http://www.goodtogocustoms.com/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=937)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 20, 2006, 12:49 PM
Maybe Mr. Master Phruby would like to compile a list of ideas for where and time frame and we vote? Do to this being a group project. What to you guys think?
roron corobb
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 20, 2006, 05:21 PM
OK publicity for this project is up, over at www.thesithempire.net so hopefully we'll get a few more people in on this thing.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 20, 2006, 05:27 PM
OK publicity for this project is up, over at www.thesithempire.net so hopefully we'll get a few more people in on this thing.

We should hold off on getting too much more publicity for a little bit until we have more of a concrente plan. It won't do us any good to have a whole bunch of people throwing in all sorts of different ideas unless we have some sort of leadership system in place and a general idea of what type of planet this will look like.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 20, 2006, 05:58 PM
I agree, lets get our "Governors" first of each region... or maybe "Moffs", then when we get that established, we can better spread the word.

How should we break down the different sections that we can have people take charge of?
I was thinking something like:

1. Natural Terrain-Rocks, Caves, Bodies of water, Trees, foliage and other Landscape)
2. Manmade structures- Building, fences, towers, bridges
3. Imperials- Characters that fall under imperials
4. Rebels-Characters that fall under The Rebels
5. Townsfolk-anyone not affiliated with another faction in the "town"
6. Mercenaries/Bounty Hunters- Self explanatory
7. Animals-All types of animals
8. Other World Patrions-Ones that do not fall under any other group
9. Land and air vehicles-small crafts as speeders, speederbikes, swoops
10. Starcrafts /Starships- Larger Space ready crafts

That's all I can think of right now, and I'm sure some of the smaller ones could be combined, and maybe others split up, but I think that's a good start of different groups we could have people in charge of, what do you guys think?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 20, 2006, 06:24 PM
I agree, lets get our "Governors" first of each region... or maybe "Moffs", then when we get that established, we can better spread the word.

How should we break down the different sections that we can have people take charge of?
I was thinking something like:

1. Natural Terrain-Rocks, Caves, Bodies of water, Trees, foliage and other Landscape)
2. Manmade structures- Building, fences, towers, bridges
3. Imperials- Characters that fall under imperials
4. Rebels-Characters that fall under The Rebels
5. Townsfolk-anyone not affiliated with another faction in the "town"
6. Mercenaries/Bounty Hunters- Self explanatory
7. Animals-All types of animals
8. Other World Patrions-Ones that do not fall under any other group
9. Land and air vehicles-small crafts as speeders, speederbikes, swoops
10. Starcrafts /Starships- Larger Space ready crafts

That's all I can think of right now, and I'm sure some of the smaller ones could be combined, and maybe others split up, but I think that's a good start of different groups we could have people in charge of, what do you guys think?

We already kind of have something like that. (http://sithlordchaos.250free.com/Organization.jpg) Most of your categories there would fall under the various Team Leaders' responsibilities, but depending on how they want to divide up the responsiblity in their sections, I'm sure they could add some of those subcategories. The thing is we don't want to divide it all up too much or there isn't going to be as much continuity between the various sections.

Of course that flowchart isn't set in stone so we can always add a few positions, like say a military advisor, a research team, an animal and creature team like you suggested, etc.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 20, 2006, 06:32 PM
Well, we'll all just get this taken care of at 9 pm EST in the chat room.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 20, 2006, 06:36 PM
where's the chat? link please  ;D
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 20, 2006, 06:59 PM
Well, we'll all just get this taken care of at 9 pm EST in the chat room.

Or better yet we get as much done here as we can and then we can talk specifics in the chat.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 20, 2006, 07:04 PM
The chat room Joe, is on the main page, right under the forum link.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Diddly on June 20, 2006, 07:05 PM
I'm interested in doing a small bit of work for this project. However, I more than likely won't be making it to C4. I'll keep you guys posted, and I'm looking forward to the final details.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 21, 2006, 12:09 AM
I am thinking that my personal contribution to this will be -

- 5-10 custom citizens (which I don't need back)
- unknown number of Imperial Troops (might be a good number if we use Commtech/VOTC style Stormtroopers, might want these back)
- one custom landspeeder by Owen (which I'd definitely like back)
- ????

I agree with Ryan that this should be OT era now, I think prior to ANH when the Empire ruled with an iron fist.† It is going to be the 30th Anniversary, like said.

I am thinking we are going to need someone to create some foamcore buildings.† They need to be three-dimensional ones, and should be really cheap to ship.

For the ground on this massive diorama, a mixture of white playsand and regular playsand might be the way to go.† It could be a sandy world (not necessarily a desert) but that would be by far the most practical main terrain to use.† In the city area it could be the cleaner sand and as it gets into the wilderness, a combination of darker sand with fake shrubber that you buy at hobby stores, and some of those large aquarium trees you can buy at pet stores.

I had mentioned the idea of commissioning an item for someone to make too.† I've thought about it some more, and while I love the idea, I can see why others would not.† If one person gets paid, then others might expect to get paid too, or might get their feelings hurt.† Then the whole principal behind this is tarnished.

Whatever is done, I'll try and be a part of it and will offer suggestions to Phruby and everyone else.† But I do suggest that some of the younger members who want to participate, listen to the advice of the adults on most of this.† There are going to be things that are realistic, and others that are not.† This really needs to be planned out well.† Us adults have been there and made mistakes growing up on projects and for something this big, some of the older members probably need to have the last word.†

Hey I'm the project manager for the headquarters of a national market research agency and manage multi-million dollar projects every week - and I know that I can't handle all of the decisions on this on my own.† I'm going to have good ideas and some bad ones.† Chances are, each and every one of will have some ideas that really are not good.† So when that happens, clear your head, don't get upset if others don't agree with you, and let's make this fun.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 21, 2006, 12:29 AM
Couldn't have said it better if I tried.† I am one of those younger members, and am going to try at every moment to listen to the older, more expierienced members.† But I think the most important thing you said is, let's make this fun!

Oh, and by the way, if anyone needs large quantities of foamcore for buildings, LMK, I have tons.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 21, 2006, 12:56 AM
Do you mean "older members" as in actual age, or post count? cause I may be a newbie member here, but I've been customizing for a good 15 years, had 6 years of art, an dwhen I worked full time, I was in charge of handling over 4 million dollars worth of product a year...
just wanted to know what you meant by "older members"  ;D
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Jedi_Assassin on June 21, 2006, 01:00 AM
I'm definatly in. I have all summer. I was thinking that we could have like a five story stackable dio set like owen d.'s death star and have it be like the apartments in kotor, except, in one room, floor, there could be the 501st be storming in on a pre rebel meeting. I could try to conquer that. those characters are a part of my photonovel. a pre anh bail, leia, mothma, all of the delegation of the 2000. I cold do that, maybe. I think that the city should have sections, the wealty, shops/cantina, and slums. that way we could show the people doing everyday things. people getting mugged in the slums, the military police hauling some drunk away in the front of a bar. the rich being escorted by gaurds. i could try to duplicate my terror cell, The Phoenix Reborn, and have them blowing up the sector governor's manor. just my opinion, but it's 1 in the morning. let me know wat i can do.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 21, 2006, 01:04 AM
If anyone needs any scale landscaping advice, count me in. I don't have 4 million dollars. They won't even let me hold the telephone at work.  :(

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 21, 2006, 02:27 AM
Do you mean "older members" as in actual age, or post count? cause I may be a newbie member here, but I've been customizing for a good 15 years, had 6 years of art, an dwhen I worked full time, I was in charge of handling over 4 million dollars worth of product a year...
just wanted to know what you meant by "older members" ;D

Joe, I'm pretty sure CHEWIE meant old in terms of actual age and real-life experience.

Very nice post Justin.

Foamcore is definitely going to be the way to go for buildings, walls, etc. This thing is going to need to be as modular as possible to save everyone on shipping costs, or make it easier to transport via Plane, Train, or Automobile. The more I think about it, we need to do as much prefab as possible, or the whole convetion will be spent setting it all up.

As for the terrain I've got mixed feelings on sand. It should be fairly easy to keep it uniform from part to part, if everyone uses sand. It is fairly easy to work with as well as being inexpensive. But at the same time... "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." If we have people make various terrain pieces without the sand actually on them and try and do it at the convention, it will make one hell of a mess, and I very much doubt the convention staff will like us too much. If it is applied prior to shipping and isn't glued down right, someone will be opening a rather messy box of sand. I've been considering several other options, as I'm sure others have as well, so I'm not too worried about figuring out a good terrain use.

I vote no on the use of any commisioned pieces. We are all customizers, why should one person get paid for his work while the rest of us pay to make our own? Owen's stuff is great and if he'd like to participate he is more than welcome too, if he doesn't want to donate a piece or lend it to us temporarily, we could always auction off whatever he makes at the end of the convention.

Trusting the older/experienced members like you said is going to be key for this to succeed. Already I've seen some ideas that are cool but aren't going to be practical. It may seem frustrating at times to not have your ideas be chosen but like CHEWIE was saying just forget about it and go along with the group, in the end that will be much more fun for everyone.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Quazar on June 21, 2006, 02:34 AM
I agree with Ryan about the problems with sand.

There are all kinds of fake terrains we can get from hobby stores.  Fake sheets of "grass" and ground and so forth.

Add some foam rocks & moutains and all kinds of fake plant life/shrubbery, etc. and we're in business!

And I think we should try to make a few large, major buildings (like the Imperial base) and plenty of smaller ones for the city itself - bars, shops, etc.  If we decide on a uniform kind of architectural style, then those that want to can make their own buildings and we can place them together along the "streets" of the town.

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Nirvana on June 21, 2006, 06:51 AM
I'd love to get in on this...I'm not old, but I could do some concept/design and possibly some figure production...I don't really know yet.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 21, 2006, 07:06 AM
Now that it's been discussed a bit more, I too agree with not having a commissioned piece, I was thinking about it last night before bed and trying to think of a way it'd work, but it doesn't seem possible.

As for sand, I think that might be a rough one.. yeah, it could be easily transported, but it would be messy.. what about textured paint? I think that'd be more od something we could look at.. but first, we have to get settled in.. then all the small details should be discussed.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CommanderKorbra on June 21, 2006, 09:50 AM
I'd like to help out and send a few custom figures once we get this all smoothed out.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 21, 2006, 10:23 AM
I dont think actual sand would be necessary.
Real sand would weigh too much and be a Bit(h to keep contained.
But styrofoam, can be shaped to be wavy and sparay painted and speckeld to
look like sand. 

While its cool we have alot of ideas being tossed about parts and figures, these thing in all reality are the last things to be done.

We should take the flow chart and fill in names as suggestions for who should do what.
Once we get the team leaders in place, then we should make a map, like Lord of the rings map, and mark out the terrortories.
Then get the concept art going for the design of each area.
Then after the areas are designed, then the structures/natural features should be solidified.  Then the inhabitants/vehicles.


Young or old, all sugestions should be considered. Some of us "Older" guys can make bad suggestions too. So dont let your age restirict your ideas.
Speak up if you think its a good one. The team leaders (whomever they end up being) will consider it and implement it or not.

I think we should all be offering help on all aspects. Not just a few figures here or a ship there.
There will be alot of stuff to be done.

Everyone should look at the flow chart and pick 3 areas that they would like to work on. SO when it come time for actual construction we dont have all people wanting to do the same thing and one area that is left to 2 people.
Also use the search feature here, at scum and look through old dios, ships, etc and make suggestions
as to who you think should do what. 
I think everyone should e-mail these to Phruby or his assistant and then we can get a good starting place.

Lets focus on oraganization first, then will get into the detail later.

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 21, 2006, 10:30 AM
Great ideas everyone. I've been laying low listening to suggestions and trying to figure out who would be a good group leader for each position that Ryan laid out. Nothing is set in stone yet but I hope to have something more firm tonight or tomorrow.

Anyway, here is the general layout of the diorama. The time period would be between ep3-4 (probably closer to 4 then 3). We would have an imperial garrison occupying a rather large city. Outside the city we would have wilderness (grass or sand would be cheap). On the other side of the board, we would have a hidden rebel base carved into a mountain. Inside could be a few ships and lots of rebels. I've asked Chewie to draw a very rough sketch of the landscape and layout for us to work off of.

I would like to start a little contest to name the planet. The idea is to name the planet and write a short background story about it. Add as much detail as you would like. Just keep it less than two typed pages. Email or PM the story to me by the end of June. I'll post all of the stories and let everyone vote on the best treatment. No prizes. Just the honor of having it as the official background history.

As far as paying someone for commissions, I think this will ultimately lead to really bad feelings among posters. We should all be treated equal with no special perks.

I'm also gave some thought about shipment of the customs. Basically, you all are responsible for shipping them here to Los Angeles and will provide return postage. Anything that doesn't have this will be considered a donation and posted on ebay for charity.

If you haven't already, please send me you real name and email address so I can get together a mailing list for updates. Also if you have preference tell me what type of committee or project you would like to work on. Great ideas everyone. Keep it up.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 21, 2006, 11:01 AM
I started reading through all the posts, and have mor to catch up on but I like the direction this is going.† For older members, I didn't mean it in terms of how long anyone's been a forum member, but rather how much real world experience and responsibility one has had.† For example, someone that's been on their own for 10 years and has a career probably has more experiene than someone in high school.† It's not a knock on anyone, it just makes more sense.

On the sand thing... if you guys are against it, that's fine.† My theory is that it will be a lot easier to have a uniform terrain that way, and more feasible in terms of budget.† If we were to do that, someone local could pick up 3-4 bags of the stuff, and spread it out evenly over the main baseboard of the diorama.† If the diorama somehow has a built up frame or lip around the sides, the sand won't spill and won't be a mess at all.† At least not in my experience, I've done this with several dioramas and have never had an issue with it.†

I just think if we piece together a terrain, there were will open seams in it, and it will looks like a jigsaw puzzle, and honestly pretty fake.† Some sort of sand would cover it up and have a uniform texture, then we could add additional scenery to it.

Click below for some great reference pics of what was made at C2 -

http://www.niubniubsuniverse.com/C2W/journal/04Diorama/00diorama01.asp

I guess they didn't use sand like I thought.† But they do have a uniform ground design which is what makes this look so good.

(http://www.niubniubsuniverse.com/C2W/journal/04Diorama/01complete.jpg)

But looking at this pic, it looks like some sort of sand was added?

(http://www.niubniubsuniverse.com/C2W/journal/04Diorama/31.jpg)

The more I look at these, for some reason, the more a fan-fic world seems like the way to go.† I would be tempted to make some sort of style like Mos Eisley, but with a more of a gray color tone to it.†

For complete coverage of how they did this, I think this link could be a very useful tool -

http://www.niubniubsuniverse.com/C2W/journal/JournalMENU.asp

It might also be worthwhile to talk to Frank (Niub Niub) about it.†

I'll try doing a rough sketch of what is in my head this week, but feel free to tear it apart!!

I wonder how much of this might need to actually be created on location??

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 21, 2006, 11:05 AM
So then we have decided on a Desert world. I was kinda hoping to do something like Corellia or Coruscant. Oh well. Desert it is.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 21, 2006, 11:11 AM
It doesn't necessarily have to be a desert world at all, that was just my opinion.  I thought with the logistics it would be easier.  If people disagee, no problem!

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: jedistyle on June 21, 2006, 11:50 AM
this seems like a great project and i would love to contribute. i have also just moved back to the southern california area so i'll be around to help, if needed.

the ideas are going a very cool direction. i like the idea of a desert type world, somthing that says dry arid climate and a harsh terrain, but it dosn't have to be typical desert color. we could do a dark brown or orangish color sand with yelloow mixed in or red and black, mabey a cross between tatooine and geonosis, with the idea of greay buildings that would make for some awsome weathering possibilities.

is this going to be an outskirt type town or a metroplois/city thing?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Jedi_Assassin on June 21, 2006, 12:04 PM
i hope that we do something like corellia. it has slums and upscale neighborhoods. i am SOOOO against sand. i think that maybe an untaimed jungle or swamp, maybe a treacherous mountain range where some renegade jedis are hiding. NO SAND! its too messy. i want to lend myself out to helping with customs and dios. most likely dios. my parents don't even let me borrow money from them for fodder. they thimk i waste it. a fomecore dio is different. i can get sheets of it for 2 for a $1.let me know about any building design. i am in 7th grade know and was taking high school drafting classes in the 5th grade, but thats what a 154 I.Q. will get you. i have a small library on building design and construction.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 21, 2006, 12:06 PM
I think some sort of outskirts town would be the easiest, that way with different people making different types of buildings, it would seem feasible that everything wouldn't be uniform in style.  And to me, a fan-fic world like in Galaxies gives us the most freedom.

As soon as I can, I'll make up some sort of rough sketch of what I envision; but again, don't be afraid to let me know if my idea looks silly, too bland, or too hard to do.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 21, 2006, 12:31 PM
I've added a new thread to come with a background history and name for this planet.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 21, 2006, 02:07 PM
Looking at the scale of that dio, and the fact that is just a town...
We are gonna need more pool tables  ::)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 21, 2006, 02:09 PM
Skys the limit right now. We'll see what actually shows up in March and how many tables we need then.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Nirvana on June 21, 2006, 05:55 PM
I'll have to check on some things and make sure I have the time and permission to go along with this project...If my parents aren't too keen on shipping customs out, maybe I can work on logistics and concept design.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: jedistyle on June 21, 2006, 06:18 PM
if a planet is to much then mabey we could do a space station like the one in lance's interactive photonovel! just a thought.....

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 21, 2006, 07:23 PM
Ive seen a lot of the younger guys basicly saying something to the effect of" My parents wont let me send figures". Coming from a family like that myself I can understtand. So your parents wont let you send out YOUR figs.

Heres an idea, maybe some of us could donate parts and what not have you guys custom ise them in the way that you wish and then you send us "OUR" fugures back? It sounds a little far fetched sure, but it could work.

BTW have you even asked your parents about this? Let them read this entire thread to see what it is we are trying to do, aand they may not have a problem with it.

Try it It may work.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Nirvana on June 21, 2006, 07:43 PM
I'm pretty sure I can. My mom is pretty supportive and it's only a custom. In fact, probably the customs I do will just be donations. I'll ask her tomorrow and get back to everyone on the subject. This is a really great idea and I'd love to be part of it.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 22, 2006, 12:49 AM
Hell, I have a ton of fodder I could donate to this... and I mean a lot.†

I spoke with Owen about it, and he went ahead and drew a pic that he thought up.† It's just a rough sketch but pretty fun.† When I get a chance I'll make one too.

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/owendrawing.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Jedi_Assassin on June 22, 2006, 01:08 AM
I was pictureing like a town surrounded by a huge wall. and have an imp. base tower over the city. I wish that i could pm you my background story but i didn't save a copy. its a nice sketch, but there needs to bee more city. my mom and dad r soooo irritating when it comes to customizing. they think i could donate some customs, ill just need them back.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 22, 2006, 03:52 AM
Ok, I stayed up way too late tonight working on this, and need a break from it... but here's what I came up with.

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/groupprojectdesignone.jpg)

Hope you guys like the idea - it has the following -

- Imperial base
- town (where lots of custom citizens would be added)
- small Rebel hideout
- bit of wilderness
- Mountain backdrop

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 22, 2006, 06:57 AM
That's awesome Chewie. I like the lawout of the first one, with maybe awall on the lft side of the town, I think it'd give us a good "border on the one side of the Dio, and the mountian thingie with the base on the other will give us another good border.. maybe if the river ran down adn then cut to the left for another border, then we could use mountain ridges on the top that slowley ran towards the city wall to make the final border. That way we just dont have it end...
My only problem is.. well, building such huge terrains like mountains and such, will that be possible.. and um, portable?

I have some vehicle fodder I could donate, they're GI Joe vehicles, but I'm sure they cn still work.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 22, 2006, 09:38 AM
THat is a great sketch own did. Exactly what i was talking about.
We need more ideas like that, so we can pick and chose the best
features.
Notice its a simple sketch, so dont let " i cant draw"† keep you from
submitting something.

I really like the ideas owens included.† I think there should be some sort of barrier
between the Jungle and the space port/town.† I would flip the jungle and imperial tower
to oposite sides of the river.
If the imps need to enforce something, they gotta travel far through treachurous lands to do it.


Running with that.. Here is a built on version.

(http://home.comcast.net/~glassmandesigns/customs/JuddeLulos.jpg)

THe concept is that, there is a space port bringing people to the city, on the outside of that is the town with the
imperial command center at its center.† Then a barrier from the "uncivilized" areas.
Jungle, a few settlements and natural features ( river mountains)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 22, 2006, 11:10 AM
In regards to the mountains and such, they are quite simple to make, and easy as all get out to transport. If push came to shove, when I go to C4, I could build some on site for the project, if we get a booth, and what not. They take a short time to make.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 22, 2006, 11:45 AM
If we make the town a bit larger, We could make paved like streets like on Naboo, or is this an out skirts town?
There was jungle just outside of the capital on Naboo, So I don't see why we couldn't do that. Ohhh and for beasts of the jungle, check your local target for the Dino warrior things. I got like 3 sets for 17 bucks last night. (@ the greeley for you colorado guys.)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 22, 2006, 11:47 AM
Well I guess nobody liked my depiction!† †;D

I'll try to come up with another one in the next week, maybe fleshing out Owen and Glassman's drawings.† I like the digital ones, just because it's easier for me to visualize that way.  I'm kind of against a river though, I don't see that as being very feasible.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Quazar on June 22, 2006, 12:46 PM
Chewie and Glassman,

GREAT job, guys.  I find it interesting how similar both your concepts are.  I think most of us are really on the same
page about this now.  Excellent ideas and great conceptualizing.  It's really starting to take form in my
own mind thanks to these.

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 22, 2006, 12:51 PM
I like 'em both too.† Right now, glassman's seems most feasible to me.† I think I'll make one today with some new ideas thrown in.† I still like the idea of a Jabba the Hutt-type crime lord palace.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 22, 2006, 12:57 PM
The river could be dried elmers glue with blue dye.
I used to see it done on models. It doenst have to be real water.

I like your 3d image, chiew, i may do mine as a 3d image too to help
those who cant read plan and section clearly.

I do it for work all the time....

Remeber these are just concepts. Nothing is decided, the more there are, the more good ideas there will be to chose from.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 22, 2006, 01:01 PM
Hey guys, I just wanted to throw this out there, this guy's closing his shop up:
http://www.bountyhuntertoys.com/miva/merchant.mvc
It's in Canada, so all prices are in Canadian dollars(so keep that in mind if it seems a bit high), he takes paypal, and id you USE THE PROMO CODE 'MIKE' YOU GET 35% OFF!!!

Thre's not much left, but I thought some people could get some stuff for fodder, I know there's a Ozzel, Cpt. Antillies, and 4 Dutches still there, I had them in my cart, but it was getting pricey, lol...

He also has GI Joes that could be used for fodder..
Just wanted to throw this out there, hope it's not against any rules or anything, if so, I'll remove it :)


Quote
The river could be dried elmers glue with blue dye.
I used to see it done on models. It doenst have to be real water.
They make some stuff they sell in the model train area where you melt and it's like liquid plastic.. I have a bag somewhere, lol.. I'll have to dig it out... I think it'd look better than glue ;)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 22, 2006, 01:32 PM
It's called E-Z water, and it's one of the best products I've seen in my life.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 22, 2006, 01:41 PM
yep, that's the name, I was trying to do a search on it... I never used it before, I just bought a bag(they come in little pellets) one time.. I read a review somewhere that it turns yellow? Is that the older kind, does the newer stuff not yellow? THat'd kinda suck to have yellow water, lol.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 22, 2006, 02:12 PM
I've never seen it turn yellow. The color of the "water" really reflects what is underneith it. If you paint it sky blue, it's going to appear sky blue. If you put a coat of river rock brown beneith it, it will look more realistic. To give it the "water" look, your supposed to tease the top a little with a blow dryer. It's fun.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 22, 2006, 03:38 PM
here are some rough 3d blocks to better explain the concept i was suggesting.

(http://home.comcast.net/~glassmandesigns/customs/groupworld/axon1.jpg)
(http://home.comcast.net/~glassmandesigns/customs/groupworld/pers2.jpg)
(http://home.comcast.net/~glassmandesigns/customs/groupworld/pers3.jpg)
(http://home.comcast.net/~glassmandesigns/customs/groupworld/pers4.jpg)
(http://home.comcast.net/~glassmandesigns/customs/groupworld/fromspaceport.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Quazar on June 22, 2006, 03:47 PM
That looks flippin' sweet, but I am not sure I like the "wall" separting the city from the wilderness.

I think the town should kind of taper off into the woods/jungle.  Maybe with some mountains creeping
in to make a natural border, as seen in Chewie's pic.

But this looks great.  I love the idea of the Imperial tower lording over everything.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 22, 2006, 04:29 PM
I'm liking this new one... I kinda like the wall, If I were an Impeial Higher ranking officer stuck on some remote mudball, I think I'd want a wall seperating me from the wilderness while I sleep at night.

A couple of things I'd like to see is a little less forest... maybe after the wall, we can have some rolling hills plainlands.. then a small forest/swamp(might be easier to do swamp like trees than fll spring time leafy trees anyway).. then the rocks and mountains.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 22, 2006, 04:37 PM
Looks really good Glassman. †I think that if a wilderness scene is created though, the forest would need to be less dense, that way we could include more customs in it, perhaps a Rebel bunker, a landspeeder, etc. †And some sort of creature or two. †I do like the idea of a tall Imperial tower.

As for a swamp, I'll take some pics of something I have that might look really good for trees... here's a sneak peak at what I mean -

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/UG19.jpg)

That's not the best pic in the world, but on the right side of the pic you can kind of see the tree I am referring to, they are from aquariums (can get at Petco).† Kind of pricey, but they look awesome in person.

We can also use real wood too... sorry for another photonovel pic, but here's what I mean... real wood and also that fake shrubbery stuff can look cool on a forest floor -

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/UG33.jpg)

On the idea of dinosaurs... I love dinosaurs, but straight up dinosaurs I think would look out of place. †Not that this is the ideal creature, but for example I think some sort of beasts of burden native to the planet, kind of like this might look good for it -

(http://chewie34.250free.com/062206TrenchBack1.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 22, 2006, 04:46 PM
Great job Glassman!† It looks really good.† I aggree with CHEWIE on the fact that it should be less dense.† For instance, we could have an imperial shuttle in a clearing with a patrol of troops.† Kinda like the jungle that Anakin and the clones land on when searching for Asajj.† Also, good work with the trees and shrubs, I think those would look great as our jungle.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: VF/501 on June 22, 2006, 05:26 PM
Can't contribute much right now but I did design a security/police member.

It uses the OTC Jedi luke torso and arms and the legs, head, helmet, holster and gun of the OTC cloud car pilot.  Paint it to macth the palnetary color scheme and you have a security/police guard.  LMK what u think.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 22, 2006, 05:41 PM
here are some rough 3d blocks to better explain the concept i was suggesting.

(http://home.comcast.net/~glassmandesigns/customs/groupworld/fromspaceport.jpg)

Great job, but if those ships are to scale I think we are going over the top with this poject, ;D lol.
roron corobb
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 22, 2006, 05:59 PM
I'd say maybe 6 pingpong tabels would fit that. :D

Anyway, Glass I really like it, but I think a few buildings should be very tall, but not as tall as the tower, but enough to differentiate the different buildings in the area. A few skyscrapers here, and there :P.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 22, 2006, 06:37 PM
Should our first course of action be to confirm a size for the entire project, and work from there?

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 22, 2006, 08:02 PM

...but if those ships are to scale I think we are going over the top with this poject, ;D lol.
roron corobb

Yeah, i realize that its not to scale, it's just the concept. The ships i just scaled down so they could fit. Maybe big crusiers cant land here. Maybe shuttles are the biggest ship this port cna handle?  That will keep the size down to a more reasonable one.

But again this is just one idea, i'm sure once everyone gets going there will be better and more realistic.  I hope.
Good call on the forest chewie & CC1.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 22, 2006, 08:55 PM
I was thinking about doing some mini mock ups with some trees and such to see what we can come up with.. nothing big maybe a 12"x12" a couple different landscapes.. trees, swamps, grass lands, rocks... anyone wanna help?

I was also wondering if we could post our USERNAME and say, where we're from, maybe if we have a couple people in the same area, they could get together and help eachother out?

If you guys think that's a good Idea.. just Quote mine and add to it ;)

JoeRhyno-Chicago, IL

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 22, 2006, 09:11 PM
CHEWIE - St. Louis, MO

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Jedi_Assassin on June 22, 2006, 09:58 PM
Ross, New Baltimore, MI (near Detroit)

P.S. I love the 3-D, but i think the wall chould be higher.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 22, 2006, 10:04 PM
Adam, Fort collins, But no customizers live in FOCO anymore now that Ryan went back to Denver for summer break. Plus, I don't think my mom would allow me to hang out with "strangers" ::) Maybe we could do something I dunno, we'll see.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 22, 2006, 10:18 PM
If you guys think that's a good Idea.. just Quote mine and add to it ;)

JoeRhyno-Chicago, IL
CHEWIE - St. Louis, MO
Ross, New Baltimore, MI
Adam, Fort collins,??

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 22, 2006, 10:19 PM
I hear ya Sparty panty.. if my son asked me if he could go hang out with a bunch of 20-30something year old guys.. I'd say no too† ;D

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 22, 2006, 10:21 PM

...but if those ships are to scale I think we are going over the top with this poject, ;D lol.
roron corobb

Yeah, i realize that its not to scale, it's just the concept. The ships i just scaled down so they could fit. Maybe big crusiers cant land here. Maybe shuttles are the biggest ship this port cna handle?† That will keep the size down to a more reasonable one.

But again this is just one idea, i'm sure once everyone gets going there will be better and more realistic.† I hope.
Good call on the forest chewie & CC1.

Just playing Glassman, even know I would love to make something that big. My scale Tantive has been placed on hold forever it seems, but one day I'll start it back up and hopefully finish it.

roron corobb - Redding, California
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 22, 2006, 10:29 PM
If you guys think that's a good Idea.. just Quote mine and add to it ;)

JoeRhyno-Chicago, IL
CHEWIE - St. Louis, MO
Ross, New Baltimore, MI
Adam, Fort collins, CO
roron - Redding, CA

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: jedistyle on June 22, 2006, 10:41 PM
If you guys think that's a good Idea.. just Quote mine and add to it ;)

JoeRhyno-Chicago, IL
CHEWIE - St. Louis, MO
Ross, New Baltimore, MI
Adam, Fort collins, CO
roron - Redding, CA
jedistyle - victorville, CA


again, i'd like to participate and help in anyway i can!
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 22, 2006, 11:12 PM
If you guys think that's a good Idea.. just Quote mine and add to it ;)

JoeRhyno-Chicago, IL
CHEWIE - St. Louis, MO
Ross, New Baltimore, MI
Adam, Fort collins, CO
roron - Redding, CA
CC1-Saint Louis, MO

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 22, 2006, 11:31 PM
Should our first course of action be to confirm a size for the entire project, and work from there?

Kevin

That's probably a very good idea, a few rough mock ups before hand wouldn't hurt, but before we really get into the design phase we are going to need to know how big of an area we will have to work with. That way we have a better idea of what sort of features we will actually be able to fit.

Everyone needs to slow down a bit. It's great that everyone is so excited for this project, but we still have almost a year until it needs to be finished. We have plenty of time, there is no sense in getting in so far over our heads now. We need to make sure how we are going to go about all of this. I'm glad there are people who already have figures, we will need them sometime, but we are nowhere near that stage yet, so just hang onto them for awhile.

Until we pick the various teams, team leaders, and the assistant project managers we really can't do very much besides some basic concept art. We need to find out how much booth space costs, actually get a booth, etc. As cool as this is going to be it won't be cheap, we need to get costs and booth space before we can even begin talking about the dimensions of the diorama. There is no sense in building a massive display with no place to put it. We also need to figure out it they have tables or if some of the local guys will have to rent/buy them from elsewhere. Logistics have to come first. There is a bunch to do before we get to the real fun part. And it is something we should do sooner rather than later.

One thing people could start doing is beginning to draw some concept sketches of the architecture the planet may have. These won't be exact blueprints for the buildings so scale isn't too much of an issue. And it doesn't even have to be based on a building that we would use, all we really need is the style. Just get some basic ideas on paper. Since we haven't chosen a style yet just draw whatever comes to mind and we can sort it all out later. It is always better to have too much concept art to choose from rather than not enough.

I know it is hard to hold of on all the diorama/figure planning, Iíve had a bunch of ideas I've had to hold back myself. Everything will run much smoother if we wait though, like Iíve been saying we really need a clear cut plan before we get to the best part.

JoeRhyno- I think eventually we will have to make some sort of terrain samples, so save that idea. Again I donít think we are quite there yet, but if you want to get a head start by yourself so youíve got something to show us later, thatíd be fine.

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 22, 2006, 11:33 PM

If you guys think that's a good Idea.. just Quote mine and add to it ;)

JoeRhyno-Chicago, IL
CHEWIE - St. Louis, MO
Ross, New Baltimore, MI
Adam, Fort collins, CO
roron - Redding, CA
CC1-Saint Louis, MO
Ryan- Fort Collins/Denver, CO

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Glassman6 on June 22, 2006, 11:56 PM
If you guys think that's a good Idea.. just Quote mine and add to it ;)

JoeRhyno-Chicago, IL
CHEWIE - St. Louis, MO
Ross, New Baltimore, MI
Adam, Fort collins, CO
roron - Redding, CA
CC1-Saint Louis, MO
Ryan- Fort Collins/Denver, CO


I dont know if its necessary to do this, Once the team leaders are established, then one of them can compile this list and the people who are close will get the necessary info.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 23, 2006, 12:24 AM
Should our first course of action be to confirm a size for the entire project, and work from there?

Kevin

That's probably a very good idea, a few rough mock ups before hand wouldn't hurt, but before we really get into the design phase we are going to need to know how big of an area we will have to work with. That way we have a better idea of what sort of features we will actually be able to fit.

Everyone needs to slow down a bit. It's great that everyone is so excited for this project, but we still have almost a year until it needs to be finished. We have plenty of time, there is no sense in getting in so far over our heads now. We need to make sure how we are going to go about all of this. I'm glad there are people who already have figures, we will need them sometime, but we are nowhere near that stage yet, so just hang onto them for awhile.

Until we pick the various teams, team leaders, and the assistant project managers we really can't do very much besides some basic concept art. We need to find out how much booth space costs, actually get a booth, etc. As cool as this is going to be it won't be cheap, we need to get costs and booth space before we can even begin talking about the dimensions of the diorama. There is no sense in building a massive display with no place to put it. We also need to figure out it they have tables or if some of the local guys will have to rent/buy them from elsewhere. Logistics have to come first. There is a bunch to do before we get to the real fun part. And it is something we should do sooner rather than later.

One thing people could start doing is beginning to draw some concept sketches of the architecture the planet may have. These won't be exact blueprints for the buildings so scale isn't too much of an issue. And it doesn't even have to be based on a building that we would use, all we really need is the style. Just get some basic ideas on paper. Since we haven't chosen a style yet just draw whatever comes to mind and we can sort it all out later. It is always better to have too much concept art to choose from rather than not enough.

I know it is hard to hold of on all the diorama/figure planning, Iíve had a bunch of to hold back myself. Everything will run much smoother if we wait though, like Iíve been saying we really need a clear cut plan before we get to the best part.

JoeRhyno- I think eventually we will have to make some sort of terrain samples, so save that idea. Again I donít think we are quite there yet, but if you want to get a head start by yourself so youíve got something to show us later, thatíd be fine.



Very good post Ryan.† People do need to slow down, there is a lot of zealousness on this (which is good to see) but we can't get ahead of ourselves.† We need to create a Project Plan for this.

Getting the actual information on tables/booths/price/dimensions really should be the first thing that is set.† It would be foolish to go much beyond that at this point, other than some sketches.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 23, 2006, 12:31 AM
Hrmmmm....Imperial attack and enslavement of Kashyyyk anyone?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 23, 2006, 01:30 AM
I agree with Ryan and Chewie. WE need to start setting the bases for this project. I think the team leader needs to set a game plan and we can go from there.

Also the Kashyyyk idea is cool, but most of that planet is in trees. I don't think many non-Wookiee types would be there too. Could work though.
roron corobb
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 23, 2006, 01:52 AM
Could work, as Dressel has hundreds of Sneak Peak Wookiee Warriors he would donate to this.   ;D

Actually, Dressel I'll shoot you a PM about something similar to what you are thinking, on a smaller project I might have coming up with Owen.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 23, 2006, 09:57 AM
Ok. Sorry for the delay. I've had some technical problems. Here are the project leaders that I would like to have over the various teams.

Assistant Project Leader - Production:   Chewie
Team Leader - Concept Art / overall design :   Glassman6
Team Leader - Diorama design / production : Ryan
Team Leader - Figure and vehicle creation:  Darth_Ennis

I havn't choosen the logistics and planning committee yet. I've been too overwhemed with emails right now and I'm still sorting thru them.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 23, 2006, 11:38 AM
I've been busy too, mostly with work stuff.

I think that the main issue once we determine the actual size/space we can dedicate is making the flooring for it.† How do we do this without it becoming a mess?† Do we build a large frame for it on site?† I just think having people send it various pieces to the flooring of it will be very unorganized and will be nearly impossible for it to flesh out and look seamless.† That's why I was in favor of sand or some sort of sand-like material for the most of it.† I understand most people may be against that, but speaking from experience, it works.† But if the planet isn't a desert world at all, there are also colored sands that could be used for parts of it too.

Still a lot of planning to do obviously... a group discussion is going to be needed.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 23, 2006, 12:06 PM
Agreed. We do have that chat comming up tomorrow night at 9pm est.

This size thing is kind of a chicken and the egg agrument. How do you know how big it is going to be until you know how many entries there will be? We also have to consider the flake factor of people volunteering to work on something and what are the odds of them actually doing it on time. We as group leaders need to be extreemly tough on people that don't meet deadlines or don't respond to email requests for status updates.

My though is to agree on the map design.  Then grid it off into one foot square sections.  Each person, depending on reliablilty, will be given buildings or wilderness areas. Basically, if this person has no history for sticking with a project, they will be given less critical things to work on until they prove themselves. If they are not done on time, someone else will be assigned to take over.

The hard part of leadership will be keeping the flaking level down to a minimum.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 23, 2006, 02:10 PM
I agree with Ryan and Chewie. WE need to start setting the bases for this project. I think the team leader needs to set a game plan and we can go from there.

Also the Kashyyyk idea is cool, but most of that planet is in trees. I don't think many non-Wookiee types would be there too. Could work though.
roron corobb

It could also include a large beach area, so you have water, sand, then trees.  We could include a village.  It also opens up the possibility of an amphibious and ground assault.  And dare I say, aerial?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 23, 2006, 02:22 PM
A beach sounds pretty darn cool actually... I like that a lot.

I've loved the ideas everyone has had so far, and I'm going to try and come up wtih another design idea or two.

I will try and make the chat tomorrow night but I have my niece's birthday party, so it will probably be tough to make.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 23, 2006, 02:29 PM
Y'know, the beach thought gives me an idea.† What about a tropical planet? That would allow us a beach, a semi-dense rainforest as our wilderness, and sand as our base so it dosen't look like a jigsaw puzzle.† What do you think?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 23, 2006, 04:38 PM
Hmmm.... that is kind of cool.

Any of you guys play KOTOR, where there is a tropical planet at the end of the game.  Could be something along those lines.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 23, 2006, 04:39 PM
Kyassykk ( Sp?) sounds cool to me. Maybe we could use some of the settings and such from the Christmas special ( Don't laugh I'm being serious.) as reference material.

Im going to go ahead and post a thread looking for volunteers and for the figure and vehicles part of things. AS well as posting for the ideas that anyone may have.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 23, 2006, 04:45 PM
Hmmm.... that is kind of cool.

Any of you guys play KOTOR, where there is a tropical planet at the end of the game.  Could be something along those lines.

 :)

Yeah Rakata Prime, that was a cool planet. I may have to make a Rakatan. Anyway that kind of planet would be cool with a city and stuff.

Ennis, If my sister can send the figures away for me, I'll gladly join in your group for figure and ship assembly, I also can get large monsters for the jungle too. ;)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 23, 2006, 04:55 PM
Monsters would be extremely cool. Id be glad to have you Smarty. Just hop on over to the UGP Customs thread and drop your name.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 23, 2006, 07:18 PM
Guys,† I am thinking that the base/floor to this will only work if maybe up to three people build the terrain and just have everybody else fill it out with structures, vehicles and figures.† †

We really need to start checking on space, costs, and transportation before we go much further though.† Is there someone we can talk to about this that is in the C4 PR team?† Or a project director/event planner?† After we get something going with them, we can start getting a better idea of how big this thing will be.† I am thinking it will be pretty big, but do not know how feasible it will be to make it as big as some people are thinking.† Especially if we want it to look realistic.

Also possibly we can get some sort of sponsor for this to help us with costs, such as Entertainment Earth.† Just a thought.

Some planetary designs at this stage are a great idea, but really I don't think we should get too involved in making stuff until we have a set theme in mind.

A backstory is a fun idea too, but if its going to be a display at C4 then it might not matter, it might end up being whatever the viewer wants to read into it if it's a fan-fiction world.
 
I do love seeing the enthusiasm in this, but let's not jump ahead of ourselves.  This thing is a long ways off (but it will be here before we know it, LOL).

 :)
 

 
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 23, 2006, 09:56 PM
Ok. Sorry for the delay. I've had some technical problems. Here are the project leaders that I would like to have over the various teams.

Assistant Project Leader - Production: Chewie
Team Leader - Concept Art / overall design : Glassman6
Team Leader - Diorama design / production : Ryan
Team Leader - Figure and vehicle creation: Darth_Ennis

I havn't choosen the logistics and planning committee yet. I've been too overwhemed with emails right now and I'm still sorting thru them.

The flowchart has been updated. (http://sithlordchaos.250free.com/Organization.jpg) :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 23, 2006, 11:19 PM
Excellent! Let Glassman6 know.

Smartypants is going to be our secretary. His job is to record weekly developments in a newsletter, do some recruiting and help us keep track of things.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Fritzkrieg on June 23, 2006, 11:45 PM
I was looking over all the different Ideas for the Diorama and alot of people are talking about making towns or cities, But that would involve alot of Custom Buildings and Considering the talent pool we have here very few customizers make buildings, that would leave the bulk of the work to only a few. I recomend we stick to a more natural setting since Foilage, beaches, rocks, and water are all much easyier to create. I would suggest we make only a couple of structures but really kick but on the ones we make. Some Suggestions that may work: Imperial Bunckers or out post, ruins are always cool, and Villages could be made fairly easy.

Just my 2 cents,
Fritzkrieg
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 24, 2006, 12:20 AM
So were clear, what exactly does a project secretary do? And what happened to older members being in such positions?

Just so we are clear, of course.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CloneCommander1 on June 24, 2006, 12:32 AM
The secretary compiles all the happenings for the week into an e-newsletter, and goes around to other sites looking for new recruits and ideas, and kinda just generally keeps track of ideas.† (Hope you don't mind I posted this Phurby, and sorry if you do)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 24, 2006, 12:53 AM
Interesting choice.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 24, 2006, 03:41 AM
Ok. Sorry for the delay. I've had some technical problems. Here are the project leaders that I would like to have over the various teams.

Assistant Project Leader - Production:† †Chewie
Team Leader - Concept Art / overall design :† †Glassman6
Team Leader - Diorama design / production : Ryan
Team Leader - Figure and vehicle creation:† Darth_Ennis

I havn't choosen the logistics and planning committee yet. I've been too overwhemed with emails right now and I'm still sorting thru them.
My only problem with this is like some have stated already.. shouldent we worry about the logistics and planning first? lol.. I mean, technically, the other guys cant really do anything without those chosen first... I know you said you'd get to them.. but it seems like that should have been done first...
I dont see any problem with smartypants being the secretary... give the kid a chance.. if it becomes too much, or it seems like he's not pulling his end, Phruby can slap him around(not physically)... and get him in gear... Kevin, this is a "group project" we need to work together, tearing the kid down before he gets a chance isn't helping ;)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 24, 2006, 10:33 AM
Don't beat up on clonecommander. That is totally my fault. I asked clonecommander to be secretary first but I had lots of problems getting thru to his email. So after I asked, I changed my mind after talking with a few people. I'm really sorry about that. My screw up. I'm sure it won't be the last. I'm sorry about that.

As for logistics. I've been researching these things myself. There is currently no information about booths, size or cost available for C4. All we know is that it will be at the LA Convention center. I'm researching how to get in contact with the planners.  I do have plans to get the local guys that I know around here to help with transportation and setup and such. But right now, your asking who will setup things a whole year in advance. It seems kind of pointless to ask someone to do a job that far from now.

About the only thing I've decided on now is that what ever is sent my direction better have return postage otherwise it get's ebayed off for charity. Also, no one gets paid for their efforts. There might be a small entry fee depending on piece once we need to start paying for things but that might get taken care of too. Don't worry. I'm working on these things.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 25, 2006, 04:10 PM
How did that chat meeting go? Who was there? I heard there was a cool idea about having a city on the sides of a large crater. There would be a cross section to see inside.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on June 25, 2006, 04:13 PM
How did that chat meeting go? Who was there? I heard there was a cool idea about having a city on the sides of a large crater. There would be a cross section to see inside.

That would be Famine's idea. The list last night was:

Me
Famine
Darth Ennis
Glassman
JediDre
ThePerrenial
Darth Nirvana
Roron Corob
Smarty

I think that was it...
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 25, 2006, 04:22 PM
We had a few problems staying on topic, but it went OK. ASide from some chatters taking potshots at others for whatever reason we actually had some pretty good ideas. Hopefully that trend will continue, without the bickering.

There were a few pics posted but for some reason I couldn't access them. One of the topics that was brought up was it being Nar Shadda hte smugglers moon.
Its a good chioce ( even if it was mine :P) this idea is a small city idea, with forests and such. If I can find some reference pics I'll try to post them.

The one pic I got to see of the concept art was from Narnia. It was a city built in layers. With a little twaeking it could work, the concept is not bad.

I had a very hard 14 hr shift yesterday so I was a little late getting to the chat. They were still discussing things when I logged off for bed.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Nirvana on June 25, 2006, 04:27 PM
I was in and out of the chatroom, I was there at 9-10 then about 1130-1230. Towards the end there wasn't really any topic. Maybe next week will be more organized. It was still fun, though.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 25, 2006, 05:24 PM
Famine was going to post a picture of the idea he had. I believe it is like a Football stadium cut in half type look with the city on the bottom and the forest on top. Famine can correct me if I'm wrong. I liked the idea, but you will have to give the final word on that Master Phruby.

I don't know if the world was picked or not. I know there was talk about Kashyyyk, Coruscant, and Nas Shadda. I think Kashyyyk would work with Famine's U-shape modular display. We could have the supports that hold the levels made into trees and such, but I guess that will be left for the next chat. Or I missed that part of the whole chat.
roron corobb
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 25, 2006, 06:49 PM
I popped my head in, then I had to pick my wife up, and when we got home, she hijacked the computer :(

While I was on the throne earlier, I had a thought.. what if we had sometype of arena or race(swoop)track in the ciry, I thought that'd be kinda cool, different types of swoops or whatnot racing around a course???

Sadly my arthritis has been flaming up big time.. so I know it's still early, but untill this gets better, the only thing I'll be good for is ideas.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 25, 2006, 10:56 PM
I dig the swoop idea. I'm working on two swoops myself. Need to find an engine for one. Anyone have an idea on what i can use. I need somethien round, but will a turbine type look. I have the rest planned out and need to find that part. Thanks
roron corobb
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 25, 2006, 11:04 PM
Yes, that would be my idea.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 25, 2006, 11:09 PM
I dig the swoop idea. I'm working on two swoops myself. Need to find an engine for one. Anyone have an idea on what i can use. I need somethien round, but will a turbine type look. I have the rest planned out and need to find that part. Thanks
roron corobb

Top engine from luke's speeder, it comes off easy and looks great.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 25, 2006, 11:29 PM
I dig the swoop idea. I'm working on two swoops myself. Need to find an engine for one. Anyone have an idea on what i can use. I need somethien round, but will a turbine type look. I have the rest planned out and need to find that part. Thanks
roron corobb

Top engine from luke's speeder, it comes off easy and looks great.

Thanks smarty, but I need to to be bigger. Also I was thinking of something that is opened or exposed with no coverings. Thanks
roron corobb

PS: Famine, did you ever finish the picture (mock-up) you were working on?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on June 26, 2006, 01:15 AM
what about those OCC 1:18th (http://cgi.ebay.com/OCC-Orange-County-Chopper-1-18-JET-BIKE-TRADING-CARDS_W0QQitemZ7043588881QQihZ014QQcategoryZ45348QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) bikes... I remember they looked pretty cool... and were discounted, so I'm sure you could find them for cheap on ebay...

And I think they made a 1:10th scale too ;)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: BrentS on June 26, 2006, 01:24 AM
I just got back from vacation.  I've got over 2 pages of threads to catch up on.... I need to read more about this project to get caught up.  However, I can say now that you can count me in on any capacity that you need.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 26, 2006, 09:43 AM
Coolio, Brent I need you to PM me or send me your full name and e-mail addy to this Address: Smartypants1635@hotmail.com, and I'll make sure to get you on teh mailing list. ;)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 26, 2006, 10:26 AM
I have several email accounts - Smarty if you can update mine to rykrofenloe@yahoo.com for this, I'd appreciate it.

 :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 26, 2006, 11:03 AM
sure thing buddy ;D
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: BrentS on June 26, 2006, 03:36 PM
Well, I've gone through as many of the posts as I can since my vacation.  Clearly I missed a busy week  ;D.

I've already said that I very much want to be a part of this; however, after reading 12 pages on this thread, it seems like we are very much still in the main concept stage.  I know that Phruby has a deadline for the end of the week for a background story/planet name.  Does that mean that the Kashyyyk and Utapau ideas are out?  For the record, I liked the Kashyyyk idea but I see the merits of a fan-fic world.  I really like the design concepts that Chewie and Glassman have sketched out (love the 3D workup from Glassman!).   

As part of the project management - do we have a timetable for when we are going to agree on the concept of the world?  Is that after the various backstories have been written?  Forgive me if this has already been cleared up.  I'm a week behind and after reading 20+pages of threads, my head is still swimming.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: The_Tin_Man on June 26, 2006, 04:30 PM
If we have a town I volunteer for making custom citizens. What era is this going to be? I also like the swoop idea. I will try to make a speeder or two for the planet.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 26, 2006, 05:20 PM
I would like to know if Paul has can up with a timeframe to help us also.

As making stuff, I don't think we have got that far as to start making customs for the world yet. We still need the Okay for Paul about the layout of the display that Famine came up with.

roron corobb
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 26, 2006, 05:45 PM
I havn't seen a draw up of Famine's concept yet. Just a description (among about twenty others). The only map I've is Glassman's 3d drawing. So right now I have nothing to approve of yet.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 26, 2006, 05:51 PM
What we really need to do is get the planning out of the way first. This is the most important part of this project, and we will be doing no good by trying to get ahead of ourselves here.

We wont be doing anything custom wise for this project until then. It will be unneccessary to do any customs without a basic concept to work with. I am going to be working very closely with the other group leaders. Until I get the say-so from them that we are ready to proceed, there is nothing that we can do. For instance, doing villagers in parkas for a desert planet wouldn't make much sense would it. ;)

We can get the ball rolling on this by submitting ideas into the planet concept thread. So far only 4 people have submitted anything. So get those ideas in.
Once the planning is out of the way thats when the real fun will begin. ;D

Ill be the first to admit that patience is not one of my strongest traits. I yell at the microwave for crissake. BUt we have an entire year to do this, lets not rush. We need to take our time and do it right.

PErsonally though I love the concept art that both Chewie and Glassman came up with. Like wise with Famines Horseshoe concept. If we could combine them all I think that that would be perfect.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: The_Tin_Man on June 26, 2006, 08:30 PM
There could also maybe be a Hutt and it's palace. :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 26, 2006, 08:31 PM
I yell at the microwave for crissake.

Line cook. :-*

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 26, 2006, 08:34 PM
I yell at the microwave for crissake.

Line cook. :-*

Kevin

Im not proud of it but thats what I do. ;) There's not a problem with that is there?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Famine on June 27, 2006, 12:40 AM
I do the same thing.

"It's rice! How fuggin' long does it take?!"-Me to Microwave. :)

Kevin
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 27, 2006, 12:53 AM
A minute. ;D
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on June 27, 2006, 01:01 AM
Cool. ;D

But anyway. Famine, where are those cool pics you were showing at the chat. Post them. I want everyone to see them.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on June 27, 2006, 01:49 AM
Yes, please do. Thanks
roron corobb
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Commander_Miseria on June 27, 2006, 01:57 PM
Anyone mind if i submit a story or have you guys decided on everything already  :-X
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 27, 2006, 02:02 PM
You have till the end of the week. :-*
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 27, 2006, 03:24 PM
Send the story to me.

Nothing gets decided until we have more prosed diorama drawings and stories. I've still only seen one drawing.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: aeseven7 on June 28, 2006, 05:35 AM
Jeez, I've missed a LOT!

This project sounds INcredible!  I'd love to make some 'space filler' characters to help out.

I remember seeing pics of the Tatooine diorama at either CI or CII (its late, brain refuses to remember the exact event lol) and i know this would top it for sure.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 28, 2006, 09:35 AM
Knowing you work, those characters will be incredible. Get in contact with Darth_ennis. He is ever figure design. Don't forget we have a year to do this. We are still in the initial planning phases.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 28, 2006, 01:26 PM
I haven't really been up on what's going on with the project or even if/what/where I'm going to contribute, but is there a short list of Planets that we're thinking about?

 :D
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 28, 2006, 03:29 PM
No. Right now it sounds completely fan fiction.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Commander_Miseria on June 28, 2006, 04:19 PM
I know you told me to send it to you phruby, but i also wanted to see what everyone else thought of it, so i posted my background story so i posted in the stories thread. I left some things vague intentionally and i'm not the greatest writer in the world, but hope it at least gives you guys some good ideas.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 30, 2006, 09:57 AM
Let me know if I missed it in the voting thread. It just makes more work for me to find stuff.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on July 3, 2006, 07:55 PM
I've gotten in contact with GenCon. They are the ones running C4 for next year. They say exhibitor information and applications will be available in september. Once we know prices, we can figure out how to pay for this.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on July 4, 2006, 07:36 PM
Well, since this is the main thread I guess Ill post this idea here

As many of you know I would like to see a Cantina in the dio somewhere. But upon further reflection I don't want it to be just any old cantina.

I would like to have it populated with "US". I mean just think about it. Several months ago we did a customs of ourselves group project. I would like to do that again but have the parameters set to the concept of the dio. NO jedi, no sith, that sort of thing. That way we all can "be in " the dio too.

What name would the cantina have you ask? Why well call it the Jedi Defender of course. When we make the sign for the bar though we may have to cross out the Jedi. Seeing as how the jedi are very unpopular in the New Empire.

Its just a brainstorm I had. what does everyone think?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on July 4, 2006, 08:00 PM
Yeah, thats great. I'm already doing a custom of myself as a golfer, goalie, and a jedi and Trooper. I'd probably use the trooper for it but hey that sounds great. :D

You have a PM
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Ryan on July 4, 2006, 10:53 PM
Awesome idea Ennis! I love it!
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on July 5, 2006, 11:13 AM
Adam, make a note of this idea so we don't forgot it.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on July 5, 2006, 11:21 AM
Did everyone recieve the Newsletter?
 If not, let me know if you didn't get it, and I can PM it to you or Re-mail it to you. 

Also If one of you is late in the game, and for some reason, I didn't get your name on the mailing list. Shoot me a PM, with your real name, screen name, and email address.

Adam :-*
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Joerhyno on July 5, 2006, 03:23 PM
I got it, and I have to say, it was well put together and nice to "get to know" the team leaders :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on July 5, 2006, 03:48 PM
Good to hear it. :P
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Nirvana on July 5, 2006, 03:50 PM
I didn't get it, Smarty...
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Jedi_Assassin on July 5, 2006, 03:52 PM
I didn't get it either. Did you E-Mail me mine, because if you did, my AOL is all screwed up. :P
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on July 5, 2006, 03:58 PM
Yeah, It said something about an invallid email addy DN, I asked you yesterday and the email you gave me again  is the exact one I put in. I'll get a copy pulled up and give you a PM.

Dark phoenix, yeah I sent it to you @ your aol address. I'll send it to you in PM from from now on till your AIM isn't screwed up. :P

CC1 also approve me as an Address that can send to you. Till then your Newsletter will not go through.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Darth_Ennis on July 5, 2006, 04:24 PM
Adam, make a note of this idea so we don't forgot it.

Cool, I guess we have at least one more group project lined up. ;D
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on July 5, 2006, 04:38 PM
yep, I have it written in on our next newsletter. Which should come out sunday or monday of next week. Sonner if we get more news. ;)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: BrentS on July 5, 2006, 05:34 PM
I liked the newsletter.  Its nice to hear more about the organizers.  Looking forward to seeing this project take off!
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: roron corobb on July 5, 2006, 05:34 PM
I got mine. Great work on it smarty. Can't what to get more info on the project.
roron corobb
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Nirvana on July 5, 2006, 05:47 PM
I got the newsletter from BrentS (thanks man) and it's very nice.

I liked the feature on the Custom Leaders, that was cool.

Smarty had asked me to do the newsletter the week of the 16th because he'll be on vacation, so I'll be doing one of these.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Master_Phruby on July 6, 2006, 12:31 PM
Sounds good. Good job Adam!  :)
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on July 6, 2006, 01:16 PM
Thanks Paul. :D Thank you aswell Alex for filling in for me. :-*
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CommanderKorbra on July 6, 2006, 02:15 PM
(What newsletter ???)

Was I supossed to sign up to recieve a newsletter?
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on July 6, 2006, 03:20 PM
Yeah, I left a message a few pages back, "Send me your name and email" :-\ I took care of it and sent it to your PM box.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on July 6, 2006, 03:56 PM
Hey guys, today I went to a local hobby shop that I used to go to, and looked at some of the scenery materials.† I know we are looking for the cheapest way to go about things, but I think we will need to also look at getting the quality of this to a good standard or it will look like a joke.

I saw a landscape material by Woodland Scenics (http://www.woodlandscenics.com/) that measured 50" x 100" and was $24.95, called a ReadyGrass Vinyl Mat and is available in four colors: Spring Grass, Green Grass, Forest Grass and Summer Grass.† It is commonly used for model railroading, architectural models, collectible houses, military dioramas, arts and crafts, gaming and more. It is moldable and retains its shape to make hills and mounds. You can scrape off the turf to make a smooth surface for roads, sidewalks, parking lots and water areas.

Here's a pic of it from their website -

(http://www.woodlandscenics.com/images/ReadyGrass.jpg)

Now, 50" x 100" would be a decent size, especially if we use two of those.† Then we can also combine other elements - I am thinking some sort of stone tiles for the streets/pavement of the city area.†

To try and show a better idea of what I am thinking, here is a suggested template based on Glassman's idea, but without buildings/trees or mountains added in yet.† Just the base before any structures are added.† And the grass is more of a yellow like on Dantooine.

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/groupproject070606jc.jpg)

Thoughts?† To me the most important thing is making sure we have a nice base/ground to it that doesn't need to be assembled/made by several people.† The ReadyGrass Vinyl Mat/Stone Tiles should solve that.

 :)

Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CommanderKorbra on July 6, 2006, 04:07 PM
I, for one, think that's a superb idea. Like you say, if the base looks like crap then the whole thing will look sort of screwed. Like using just some green construction paper LOL.

So yea, that'd be really cool CHEWIE.  That's cool that you can scrape off some to make roads aswell.
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: BrentS on July 6, 2006, 05:24 PM
Chewie, I think that is a great idea.  My only concern will be the way the scale looks.  Most train models are much different scale than 1:18.  Will the grass terrain look real enough against a 1:18 scale figure? 
Title: Re: The Ultimate Group Project - a Star Wars WORLD!
Post by: CHEWIE on July 6, 2006, 09:08 PM
CommanderKorbra - Thanks.† I think this will work out pretty well.† Of course, I could be wrong.

Brent - I looked at it today, and to me it looked pretty good.† We can always add in that lichen-shrubbery stuff too.† I'll probably go ahead and buy a roll of this stuff for personal use and take some pics with figures on it and see what you guys think - but it will be a couple weeks before I am able to do that.

 :)
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 14, 2006, 12:07 PM
Just to let everyone know, we have a sister child board dedicated to the UGP over at JD's affiliate YakFace. Feel free to post at either board. We will post news reports from both sets of threads in our weekly newsletter.

If you would like to receive our weekly newsletter, please pm either CloneCommander1 or Smartypants to be put on the list.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 14, 2006, 07:52 PM
We will also paste the actual Newsletters here, so that way if you somehow don't get it, you can always come here (or Yak) and read it on the page. Remember these threads (and the chats) are what CC1 and I will be drawing our info for the Newsletter from, so alert these threads of any new figures, Dio buildings, ideas, etc.

Adam
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 22, 2006, 04:11 PM
When are you going to post the past news articles? When is the next one due?
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 22, 2006, 07:59 PM
Here is numero Uno. As too the next one, I need to talk to CC.  The only piece of news that has happened at this point since the last one is Brents House and the Assignement Ryan handed out, But as soon as that is done which is this weekend, there will be plenty to report. :-\

On Friday, June 30th, Master_phruby put up a vote to decide the design for our world that we would use. This vote ran all weekend, and the poll was ended on June 3rd at 7:00 EST. The Winner was announced later that day, showing Glassmanís design to be victorious, "Judde Lulos".


Our leaders have also been picked over the last few weeks, as some of you know, and I thought it would be appropriate if they told us a bit about themselves. Let's start with our Group Leader, Paul Hruby.


  "My name is Paul Hruby. Age 36. I've been collecting star wars toys since the very beginning. My first two figures were vintage Luke and R2-D2 that my dad bought for me at a Thrifty drug store around Christmas time. These were the only two figures the store had left. Since then, my focus has mostly been figures and Kenner/Hasbro ships and play sets. I'm married and have two kids (boy and girl) and one on the way in December.


I've been customizing figures since 1998 when I painted my first vintage death star droid. After that, I really got in to astromechs and then into EU figures. Over the years, I've gone from simple painting all the way to casting. I've got over two hundred customs but its getting harder to keep pace.


I'm also a complete Disney theme park geek. The kids and I go at least twice a month for a few hours. Its fun to look for things that you've never noticed before and to learn the history of the park and how the magic really works. Disneyland is also a great place to relax when you don't care to go on every ride in the park.


For this group project, I would love to see everyone come together and build something really unique. We've never really attempted something of this scale before. It could really be the star of the show if we play our cards right and not get side tracked.  I've always felt that star wars customizing has been a small nitch of collecting. Hopefully we can inspire others to get into customizing and make some truly creative items. This project is also a great way to advance our skills and make lasting relationships with fellow customizing hobbyist."



  Let's move on to our Customs Leader, Darth Ennis.


  "My name is Scott Rivet, I was born on Sept 30th, and this year will be the 8th anniversary of my 25th birthday."   Ennis made me type it like that =(, confusing, I know


"My other hobbies besides SW customizing are Comic books (D.C. mostly) playing video games, mostly anything Resident Evil, or Final Fantasy or anything Survival horror or RPG related. I've got both the PS2 and a Game Cube.


I am a former Bass player with speed metal and Industrial thrash type of music being my poison of choice.


My favorite bands are NIN, Pearl Jam, Disturbed, Kiss and the Bloodhound Gang.


I started customizing SW figs sometime when I was about 9 or 10. My first custom was a badly repainted Boba Fett that I still have. I mostly customized G.I.Joes until about a year and a half ago when I discovered SW customizing on anotheR Site, and I've been hooked ever since.


I haven't really put much thought into what I want to accomplish with the UGP, other than to make the biggest and best diorama ever. One so cool that the Gods will notice. other than that I just want to customize."


Now onto the Man that designed our World. Glassman6


Greg Glasgow
age 37- March 12, 1969
Besides customs,(My Hobbies are) Art, music(hip hop and go-go(Washington DC thing))


What I hope to accomplish, for the project...
For the group, a decent vision that we can build off of. Hopefully some cool concepts too.
personally, Since I don't usually make vehicles and dios, I would love to show off my
talents in these areas. I just don't have the storage space, or I would do them all the time.


I used to build ships as a kid outta everything(cardboard, Styrofoam) cause we couldn't afford all of Kenners, I had to do with home made.
I built scale building models in architecture school ( my profession) so I know I can do a decent dio...
Just haven't done one yet...


I started customizing as a kid... 9years old? I would hack away at my figures with a utility knife, paint them with model paint  and white out, and seal them with my mom's clear nail polish.
I then got back into it when Hasbro wouldn't release any EU characters in 1998+.
So I started with the solo kids... Then after I got the First version to the official guide to characters... It was non stop since.


Now the Head of our diorama Section. Ryan



Name: Ryan Phipps


Age: 20


Hobbies besides customizing: I love playing hockey and football as well as watching them on TV. I also love playing paintball in the woods with my friends. I really like playing almost any sport for that matter. Besides Star Wars, I'm a real big Stargate SG-1, Stargate Atlantis, Battlestar Glacatica, and Firefly/Serenity fan. I collect Star Wars and Stargate figures, mostly loose but I have some carded and boxed stuff. Other than that when I'm not working or at school, at Colorado State University, I just hang around with my friends.


Customs background: I saw an article in ToyFare magazine probably about 10 years ago or so and it had a bunch of Star Wars customs in it, that was when I first got interested in customizing, but it wasn't until about 2003 that I finally found the online customizing community that I actually did anything about it. I studied up on the techniques by reading all the articles on FFURG and asking some of the more experienced customizers some questions. I invested in a dremmel, the best customizing investment I've ever made, and made my first ever custom, a Corran Horn in X-Wing gear. I've been hooked ever since. I've been working on a rather larger Stargate diorama for awhile now and have learned a lot about diorama building through trial and error. Diorama building has become one of my favorite aspects of customizing.


What you would like to accomplish with this UGP??: I'd really like to create an awesome diorama, something that will rival NiubNiub's Mos Eisley in grandeur. I'd love to create something that people will remember and will go home from the convention and tell their friends about it. AS this is a group project, I'd also love to see this bring the customizing community even closer together and have everybody make some new friends. And I know this sounds clichť but most of all I just want to have fun.


Thanks to all the people who have decided to join in, So far we have over 20 people in on this. Get ready to Rock CIV, and the Customizing world. Have a great 4th of July everyone.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 22, 2006, 08:00 PM
Numero 2

Hey everyone, sorry this one came so late in the evening, My family all went to see POTC2.

Anyway, This week has been pretty eventful. In the customs area Com.Miseria, and Daigo_bah have made some great customs, that may possibly feature in the diorama. They can be viewed in this page. http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12840.0

In the designs area, Darth Phoenix has come up with a bit of a modified version of Glassman's Design, as well as designing a mansion, whether it is an official design yet is to be determined.

Paul, our leader, has also gotten in touch with Gencon, the people running the convention. Applications for booths will be around in September, and we can start our fundraiser for the cost.

We have one more staff member to get to know.

Everyone knows Chewie, who is now vice president of anything customs for this project.

My name is Justin Cook. Age 29, and happily married to the love of my life, Pamela.  No children yet.  Known on the forums as CHEWIE.  My first real memory is seeing The Empire Strikes Back in 1980 and afterwards my parents buying me an R5D4 - I thought it was R2D2.

As a kid I was into Star Wars and then my interest went to GI JOE and Transformers, and eventually - girls.  Once I was in college, Kenner/Hasbro began putting out new figures and I bought the first wave.  Once wave two was out, I realized I was in trouble as I became obsessed with Star Wars.

Now in 2006 I have a collection that has gotten out of hand, but I still can't get enough.  I am also into customizing and work on a photonovel series about a fan-fiction character, Rykrof Enloe.  To date I have customized nearly 1000 figures.  My first customs would have been in the early 1980s, where I used colored toothpicks for Vader and Obi Wan's lightsabers because they looked more realistic I thought.  My interest in Star Wars hasn't wavered at all since 1995 and seems to be getting stronger.

For this group project, I am hoping we can have many of our fellow customizers we chat with come together and build something really unique, and get some new people involved as well.  I feel my role in this is somewhat of a consultant, and to help each "project manager" come up with their plan, and to help everyone realize what is realistic and what isn't in this project.  To help keep focus on how to go about this project, not to jump ahead of ourselves, and to be supportive.

I will personally donate many custom figures to this, and will try to create some foamcore buildings.  I will also donate some money, as much as I can without causing a rift in my bills.  Most likely I will not be in attendance of this great event sadly but will do what I can to help, and also promote at www.yakface.com were I am a staff member of the website.

Looking forward to working with everyone, this will be a fun experience that none of us should ever forget!

Justin


Well, thatís about all that has happened this week, remember, we have an official UGP chat every Thursday night at 9EST. in the JD chat room. I also won't be here from the evening of the 12th to the 22 or 23, so Darth Nirvana will be sending out the newsletter next week.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Master_Phruby on September 13, 2006, 10:12 AM
I'm looking at setting up a new set of parelle threads over at FFURG. I've updated them on our progress.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: patreektherodian on September 15, 2006, 08:47 PM
What is the main industry of our planet. Unless this has not been established I'm thinking refinery/garbarge/recycling.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on September 15, 2006, 10:46 PM
I thought it was mining?  For some reason I thought the Empire was mining the nearby mountains for raw gems or something.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Darth_Ennis on September 16, 2006, 07:51 AM
I beleive it's mentioned in the history thread.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Master_Phruby on October 26, 2006, 09:46 AM
Well tickets go on sale finally for C4 on Oct 30th but there is absolutely no information for exhibitors anywhere on any gencon of LFL site. Still trying to get a hold of someone.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Master_Phruby on October 26, 2006, 11:45 AM
I just got a lead! :D


Hello!  The exhibitor information is just being finalized and should be on the website by next week.  I can also mail you a packet if you send me your address.  Thanks!  There may be fan booths but those will be handled by Mary Franklin. 

I'vd asked for the exhibitor information and emailing Mary Franklin about fan booths. Keep your fingers crossed.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: patreektherodian on December 1, 2006, 07:06 PM
Hey what the heck is up with that naked pic of the asian dude from admin (robert T)? Is that revenge for the fungus plant incident? Did anybody else get that?
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Smartypants1635 on December 1, 2006, 08:16 PM
the entire forum did, Stupid spammer hacked the Forum. Spammed the entire thing. Check out the thread for it in the feedback area
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Smartypants1635 on January 15, 2007, 06:14 PM

First off, Happy Martin Luther King Jr. day!
 I would also like to apologize for not having a regular newsletter for quite sometime. I have lost all contact with CC1, and have been swamped with schoolwork.

Now First things First, for those of you who are really dedicated to this project you should read this thread at JD

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=14422.0

I believe Ryan and Paul said it best, until we get some more support from the people whom had volunteered, we wonít be able to do this.

Now to the good News, a couple weeks ago, Paul sent in our submission packet over to the fan booth admins. So now that that has been sent, we might get a free 10íx10í booth for free to display our diorama. This may be smaller than what we had originally planned on having, but itís much better than having to pay quite a few pretty pennies for a one-time deal.
You can view the thread about that here
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=14525.0


In the Concept art work section, Glassman has come up with some beautiful drawings of what looks like may become our beloved Judde lulos.

The artwork includes
1. A spaceport, complete with Corellian YT-1300ís, an imperial shuttle and a few other smaller ships.
2. A small section of the town where a Larger Tower looms over the fearful denizens, houses, businesses and a cantina.
3. Behind the tower is a wall where an AT-AT walks on patrol, unbeknownst to him there is a rebel attack in its planning stages.

You can view this amazing artwork on this page
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12860.120


Next up the figure and vehicle departments.

Chewie, Fritzkrieg, and Jedistyle have made some amazing Rebels to go into the diorama.
From tanks, to ground forces, to speeders, the rebels have all the things that a ragtag group of soldiers could want!! You can check out the latest figures at this address
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=12840.120

Last but not least, The chat is something that really needs to be taken care of, so reply to this address smartypants1635@hotmail.com with times that will work for you on Saturday and Sunday.

Adam AKA smartypants1635
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Glassman6 on January 16, 2007, 08:57 PM
Thanks for the update Smarty.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Smartypants1635 on January 16, 2007, 10:19 PM
No problem dude, expect an update every week in here aswell as with the Newsletter.
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Smartypants1635 on February 15, 2007, 10:43 PM
Grrr im grounded, sorry. cant get a newsletter out till march :-\ sorry
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Ryan on February 16, 2007, 01:30 AM
(http://www.glenncarr.com/blog/uploaded_images/trump-789041.jpg)

You're Fired
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Master_Phruby on February 17, 2007, 02:27 PM
Don't wory. I'll do a newsletter until you not grounded anymore.  ;)
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: Smartypants1635 on February 17, 2007, 06:34 PM
My mom gave me 5 minutes to check out the sites while I work on my essay for english. Thanks a bunches Paul, I hope to be back in the next 2 weeks if not sooner :) thanks again
Title: Re: UGP - a Star Wars WORLD! - news thread
Post by: CHEWIE on February 18, 2007, 03:23 AM
Don't worry Smarty, just take care of your stuff at home first.  Then hopefully soon you are able to get back involved.  Just stay ungrounded (for the good of the UGP and your freedom).

 :P