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Title: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on September 8, 2006, 12:26 AM
Time to update the thread title!

(And, for a non-dickhead thing to add:  Does anyone else confuse that San Diego defensive guy's name for "Utapau?")
Title: Re: NFL OffSeason 2006
Post by: Jesse James on September 8, 2006, 02:10 AM
Go Steelers!  :D  Batch played well, was a great game...  Good start to the season.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 11, 2006, 01:31 PM
Deion Branch got shipped to the Seahawks for a draft pick. 

I never thought he was a good fit for the Patriots anyway.  Like no other quarterback, Brady really spreads the ball around.  He throws TD passes to everybody.  I don't have the statistics handy, but just from what I've observed I'd venture to say the Patriots had more players that caught a TD pass last season than any other team.  Players like Branch who want to be Terrell Owens don't fit in well with Brady, because almost nobody catches more than 3-4 balls a game in that offense.

It's also noteworthy that Brady handed off the ball 36 times yesterday to Dillon, Maroney, and Faulk in comparison to just 12 completed passes.  That's a run heavy offense.

I also like what this means for Ben Watson, but I'll save that for the fantasy thread.  :D
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 11, 2006, 02:48 PM
I checked my facts about my suspicion of Brady distributing TD passes all over the place.  Last season the Patriots threw TD passes to 12 different players.

All other teams in the NFL ranged from 2 players to 8 players who caught TD passes, with the 49ers having just Brandon Lloyd and Arnaz Battle catching TD passes, and several teams having as many as 8 players who entered the end zone via airmail.

So the Patriots throw TD passes to about twice as many different players than the average team.

That didn't make Branch happy, he's a "me" guy.

I wonder how he's gonna like Hasselbeck throwing to D-Jack, Engram, Burleson, and Stevens.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 12, 2006, 10:01 PM
Dressel Rebel's Week 1 Recap:

Steelers over the Dolphins:

I did think that Pittsburgh was gonna lose this one with Roethlisberger out.  Willie Parker looked good, and he's probably in for a fairly monster year without Bettis vulturing goal line carries.  But for me the two biggest surprises of this game were how bad C-Pep looked after a great preseason, and how ineffective Chris Chambers was considering the ball was thrown to him 14 times.  The passing game was totally shut down by Pittsburgh.  I do not like the Dolphins at all anyway.  But Ronnie Brown looked good and effective at the goal line, but the running game was more or less shut down by Pitt as well despite Brown's 2 scores.  I guess it's not all that big of a surprise if you consider Polamalu and Joey Porter leading that defense.


Falcons over the Panthers:

The Panthers are just totally impotent without Steve Smith.  The offense is basically Steve Smith.  On top of that, the Panthers just can't stop the run.  The Falcons rushed almost 50 times.  There's just not much more to say here except the Panthers better hope Steve Smith and his 2 pulled hamstrings heal soon.  And that the Falcons are pretty well rounded.  Everyone was involved from Dunn to Norwood to Vick to Crumpler to Jenkins.


Ravens over the Bucs:

Wait is Cadillac Williams still a Buc?  Or did the Bucs just hand him the ball 8 times as a special guest?  The guy should be carrying the ball 30 times a game, end of story.  I'm gonna give the Bucs the benefit of the doubt here because they faced a tough Ravens defense who went ape**** on them, and the Bucs were good last year.  I didn't think Jamal Lewis would be such a big factor.  I thought he was busted.  I guess he's back.  Surprise.  I was kind of hoping Matt Stover would issue another public apology to the city of Baltimore, but it's a long season.  Also, Jamal Lewis is really a big strong man, holy crap, 5' 11" and 245 lbs with a jail block attitude:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/a6/full.getty-71465258ms001_bucs_ravs_2_48_03_pm.jpg)


Patriots over the Bills:

The Bills suck and the Patriots are good.  That's pretty much the whole shootin' match right there.  Tom Brady will invite people off the street and out of the stands onto the field and pass the ball to them if he's already passed to everyone on the roster 3 times, and I don't think Branch leaving means a damn thing to this team.  It's not Brady's game to have a Terrell Owens wannabe on the field, and the Dillon/Maroney 2 headed monster looked good.


Bengals over the Chiefs:

No surprise here, a lot of people are picking the Bengals to go to the Super Bowl, and they might have done it last year if Carson Palmer didn't get jacked up early in the playoffs.  The Bengals are just star studded at QB, RB, WR with a decent defense.  Trent Green got his head smacked off his shoulders, then into the ground.  Larry Johnson was a monster as usual but didn't find the endzone for a change.  Wouldn't shock me if he ran/received for another 140+ yards next week but got into the endzone 3 times this time.  Larry Johnson, much like Jamal Lewis, is a big strong man as well:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/2c/full.getty-71465260bb025_cincinnati_be_6_58_50_pm.jpg)


Rams over the Broncos:

The Broncos should have won this game but Jake Plummer threw 3 interceptions, got sacked 4 times, and his O-line let him die.  Jeff Wilkins made 6 field goals.  That's it.


Saints over the Browns:

The Saints are going to be good this year.  Reggie Bush, Deuce McAllister, Joe Horn, Drew Brees and Marques Colston (I'm having a vision of Antonio Gates crossbred with Plaxico Burress).  Oh my God how bad do the Texans look right now?  Yeah Mario Williams is good, but Reggie Bush is whatever team he is on, and for good reason.  At any rate, the Browns stink and the Saints are dramatically improved.  Reggie Bush's first game goes down as a huge success:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/fc/full.getty-71465262al002_new_orleans_s_6_41_39_pm.jpg)


Jets over the Titans:

The Jets stink.  The Titans stink.  The Jets win this one in the Loser Bowl, and if this is the Jets best game of the season it wouldn't surprise me at all.  Pennington and his receivers did look good though.  But neither of these teams are going anywhere, that's for sure.


Eagles over the Texans:

McNabb and all 3 of his top offensive weapons Stallworth, Westbrook, and Brown all looked great.  The Texans belong above in the Loser Bowl with the Jets and Titans, but 3 way matchups haven't been established in the NFL as of yet.  I do think Mario Williams is good and I stuck up for the Texans before, but they should have taken Reggie Bush.  They really ****** up.  And the Eagles are back!!  And Donte' Stallworth is really really fast:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060910/capt.f47a7b3503e948b2beee260c1cbb8645.eagles_texans_football_htt108.jpg)


Seahawks over the Lions:

The correct team won, but by 30 points less than they should have.  Seahawks over the Lions by 9-6 is pathetic.  The Seahawks deserved to lose and they should have, they really got away with one here.  They were totally ineffective.  And Lions are supposed to suck, but I don't understand what happened to Kevin Jones.  The Lions defense actually wasn't bad.

Bears over the Packers:

Green Bay is finished with a capital "F".  Ahman Green is the lone bright spot.  The Bears looked pretty good all around rushing, passing, and defense, and they are a total lock for the playoffs.  Nobody in the NFC North is capable of winning that division except them, even if the Bears weren't such a hot team.


Jaguars over the Cowboys:

This one may not be considered an upset to most, but it was to me.  Drew Bledsoe was just awful.  Terrell Owens had a nice game but I wonder how long he's going to keep his mouth shut if the Cowboys lose a couple more games in September.  The FOX TV camera was on him just about every play, even when his team was on D and he was on the sidelines.  You wanna become a celebrity in America?  Just say a bunch of stupid **** or act like an idiot, you'll have press all over you.  Still and all, TO played well.  There's so much talent on this team with a great D, Owens, Glenn, Julius Jones, Barber, Witten, that even as a Giants fan I have to admit they are probably going to win the NFC East.  I don't like Jacksonville much but Leftwich really had the passing game going and they do have 3 very good receivers.

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060910/capt.b6a4f404510e43bb9d790d1177aa8256.cowboys_jaguars_football_flpc207.jpg)


Cardinals over the 49ers:

The Cardinals don't suck anymore.  The 49ers do suck, but they scored 27 points and that might be the highlight of their season right there.  Okay I guess Frank Gore is good.  But the Cardinals have 2 of the best 10 receivers in football, an average QB and Edgerrin James, that's good for at least .500 right there.


Colts over the Giants:

The Giants made a lot of mistakes.  Just from what I saw, they dropped 3 interceptions and in the final 2 minutes when they were out of time outs the players couldn't even remember to step out of bounds to stop the clock.  Too many mistakes.  Even with that, Tiki Barber looked great and Brandon Jacobs looked even better than that.  He had 54 yards and a TD on 8 rushes but what the box score won't show you is another 25 yard run that was called back for holding nowhere near the play and the fact that Jacobs ran over the entire Colts defense before he was tackled.  Now THIS is a big strong man (you guys can probably tell I like big strong men as running backs).  Brandon Jacobs is 6' 4" and 264 lbs.  If Tiki should suffer an injury this season, I don't think the Giants will even miss a beat.  Jacobs has a bright future.  Oh yeah I almost forgot the Colts won.  What else is new.  Peyton thew a ton of deep passes successfully because the Giants have people off the street playing in their defensive secondary.  But the Colts can't run their way out of a paper bag.  I think Rhodes and Addai were picking up about 2 yards average per rush and they looked even worse than that.  They'll miss Edge.  Okay Brandon Jacobs tribute time:

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060911/capt.149e301c688a42978d8ac11f1414ae14.colts_giants_football_eru110.jpg)


Vikings over the Redskins:

This was an upset and I don't like it when any team from Minnesota wins a game.  The Redskins have a lot of pieces like Portis and Moss, but Mark Brunell is not going to get it done as quarterback.  The Vikings aren't worth discussing because they suck.


Chargers over the Raiders:

Shawne Merriman is a bad man.  6 tackles and 3 sacks and the Chargers just stomped the Raiders silly.  The Raiders suck because Aaron Brooks sucks.  Randy Moss is miserable.  He should call the Dolphins and ask if he can rejoin his offensive coordinator and quarterback so he can be good again.  LaDainian Tomlinson is not a human being, he's a supernatural.  He must have touched the ball close to 35 times last night and didn't even play much of the 4th quarter.  Sure, I watched 4 Week 1 NFL games already yesterday but I needed to stay up until 1 AM until I was sure LaDainian handled the ball for the last time.  The Chargers are officially my 2nd favorite football team.  And I love Gates.  I leave you with this.  Touchdown.

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060912/capt.399bc54f24a3415e8fdd90779aa3b7c0.chargers_raiders_football_cabs104.jpg)

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060912/capt.c956d925192b444d979573331d533e9f.chargers_raiders_football_caps104.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jeff on September 12, 2006, 11:37 PM
I don't like it when any team from Minnesota wins a game. 

 >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 13, 2006, 08:27 AM
Don't get too mad Jeff, you are only half the reason why.  Scott is the other half.

 :D
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on September 13, 2006, 09:47 AM
Man, the Raiders suck ass.  I just hope their schedule gets a little easier. 

As for Minnesota, hey, nice surprise, naturally being a fan I picked them to lose.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on September 13, 2006, 10:45 AM
Don't get too mad Jeff, you are only half the reason why.  Scott is the other half.

 :D
::)

I didn't get a chance to watch the game but my great football mind was able to digest the highlights and declare that the Vikes should have won in a blowout
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on September 13, 2006, 10:48 AM
Here's (http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/) a pretty cool website that shows what games you get each week.

Week 2 games:

CBS Doubleheader
Game #1
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/02-CBS-E.gif)

Game #2
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/02-CBS-L.gif)

Fox Single Game
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/02-FOX.gif)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on September 13, 2006, 10:48 AM
Ravens over the Bucs:

Wait is Cadillac Williams still a Buc?  Or did the Bucs just hand him the ball 8 times as a special guest?  The guy should be carrying the ball 30 times a game, end of story.  I'm gonna give the Bucs the benefit of the doubt here because they faced a tough Ravens defense who went ape**** on them, and the Bucs were good last year.  I didn't think Jamal Lewis would be such a big factor.  I thought he was busted.  I guess he's back.  Surprise.  I was kind of hoping Matt Stover would issue another public apology to the city of Baltimore, but it's a long season.  Also, Jamal Lewis is really a big strong man, holy crap, 5' 11" and 245 lbs with a jail block attitude:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/a6/full.getty-71465258ms001_bucs_ravs_2_48_03_pm.jpg)

I was as disappointed as anyone to see Cadillac not get the ball.  I'm guessing Gruden didn't think they'd be successful running against the Ravens and abandoned it for the most part - being down 14-0 real quick doesn't help either since you start passing to try to catch up.  He'll get it against the Falcons - probably 25 times unless the Bucs fall into a quick hole again.  I think the Bucs should also get the benefit of the doubt for week 1 and maybe another week because in the preseason they barely played their starters at all - they used almost the entire 4 games to evaluate players from rookies to free agents since there were so many guys they liked in camp and there were lots of tough calls as to who makes the team.

As for Jamal - I really really hope you're right.  That he did that against the Bucs defense was encouraging - he won't be on my bench this week, so hopefully he can do it again.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 13, 2006, 12:03 PM
my great football mind

LOL!  Yeah I can tell from your fantasy performance.

 :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Ryan on September 13, 2006, 01:28 PM
Here's (http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/) a pretty cool website that shows what games you get each week.

That's a pretty cool website you found there Mikey. I wonder how they decide what areas get what? Some of those maps look like they have been tie dyed. There are some area that just don't make sense really. Like for the Fox Single Game there is an area in Western NY and NorthWest PA that gets the ARZ and SEA game over the NYG and PHI, that doesn't make too much sense to me. For that second game of the CBS double header, there are a few tiny little specks of red over in the blue area.

EDIT: Nevermind. I was just reading the site and found the answers to my questions.

Quote
How come these tiny specks in Nebraska are getting a different game?
One of two reasons: Sometimes a popular player is from a certain area, so the local station there likes to show as many games of his team as possible. This is especially true in college towns. The other reason has to do with the Fox network. Since it's a newer, smaller network, it doesn't have as many affiliates as CBS, ABC or NBC. So there is a national satellite feed called FoxNet that is distributed to cable companies in the smallest markets and other remote areas, which usually carries Fox's national game. I've tried to show as many areas that carry FoxNet as I can on the maps. Update: Effective Sept. 13, 2006, FoxNet has been discontinued. So I can’t use that excuse anymore.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on September 13, 2006, 01:33 PM
From the FAQ at the link:

How come these tiny specks in Nebraska are getting a different game?
One of two reasons: Sometimes a popular player is from a certain area, so the local station there likes to show as many games of his team as possible. This is especially true in college towns. The other reason has to do with the Fox network. Since it's a newer, smaller network, it doesn't have as many affiliates as CBS, ABC or NBC. So there is a national satellite feed called FoxNet that is distributed to cable companies in the smallest markets and other remote areas, which usually carries Fox's national game. I've tried to show as many areas that carry FoxNet as I can on the maps. Update: Effective Sept. 13, 2006, FoxNet has been discontinued. So I can’t use that excuse anymore.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 13, 2006, 11:47 PM
Here's (http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/) a pretty cool website that shows what games you get each week.


This is a handy schedule that will help me plan when, how long, and what channels will aid me in being a lazy lard ass on Sundays.  Thank you sir.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 17, 2006, 07:59 PM
I was just watching Bill Romanowski on 60 Minutes.  I thought Terrell Owens was an *******.  Owens can't hold a candle to Romanowski.  Not only is Romanowski the biggest ******* I know of in the NFL (past or present), he's one of the biggest ******** on the planet.  Man oh man.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 18, 2006, 01:22 PM
Go niners! Man they really have to improve that red zone offense the score should have been 35-13...oh well a win is a win....6 sacks..yes!.. but it's the Lambs I guess :-\(3 in a row)(it doesn't guage our team really).

Update: Raiders STILL suck

TO update... glad to see I was right about him, I expected a fantasy bust by route of injury or off/on field incident. Glad to see it happened. Nothing sicker than seeing dilluted kid fans holding up TO signs in Dallas for me. Hey TO! Get your bike helmet back on..LOL!

Nice comeback by the Giants, typical conservative play-not-to-lose offensive game plan in the second half by Philly ::). I guess they can take it out on my team next week.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2006, 01:50 AM
Steelers ate it tonight against the Jags...  Though, to the Steelers credit they were holding them defensively MOST of the game, but Roethlisberger (and I bitched about this all week to people, and my worst fears came true) had no business playing this week, especially when Batch had proven he's a capable back-up.  I think the blame this week lies squarely on 2 people;  Ben for insisting he could play hurt, and Cowher for letting him.

Pisses me off to no end, but that's the way the peanut rolls, so it's time to look forward to next week...  God dammit though.   >:(
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2006, 06:21 AM
Steelers ate it tonight against the Jags...  Roethlisberger (and I bitched about this all week to people, and my worst fears came true) had no business playing this week, especially when Batch had proven he's a capable back-up.  I think the blame this week lies squarely on 2 people;  Ben for insisting he could play hurt, and Cowher for letting him.


Not only recovering from an appendectomy, but also had a 104 degree fever at kickoff.

 :o

Batch should have played.  I can't even move when I have a fever like that, and I don't even think I've had one quite that high.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2006, 09:58 AM
TO is going to lay down in an oxygen chamber Michael Jackson style for 2-3 weeks so that he can play against the Eagles.  There's something very funny about that.

"I'll bounce back," said Owens, adding he'll use his healing-inducing oxygen chamber to speed his recovery. "I'll pretty much be in there throughout the clock."

 :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 19, 2006, 10:25 AM
I'll wager he'll(Owens) get injured again or lose game-playing time for pissing off Parcels before THIS year is over to piss off and dissapoint the cowboy fans to no end. I remember in SF how he didn't cater well to double coverage when teams did it to him then dropping alot of easy in-the-hands-balls. I've played with a busted finger before, was still able to catch passes...rocket line drive type ones too. He's actually dropped quite a few balls in his career so far right along side some difficult ones caught. I always laugh when I hear the announcers talking about his great hands ::). See his carreer in a gradual downwards spiral, I do.

I don't know Jesse. Even with CB in, I still think the Jags could have won, though. However, I think Pittsburgh would have scored at least :P. The Jags staunch D looked good in pass coverage for the full game from my eyes.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2006, 11:42 AM
I'll wager he'll(Owens) get injured again or lose game-playing time for pissing off Parcels before THIS year is over to piss off and dissapoint the cowboy fans to no end.

I'm not sure how you can predict or wager an injury is going to happen, that makes you unique. 

I do not think he will be benched for pissing off Parcells.

I remember in SF how he didn't cater well to double coverage when teams did it to him then dropping alot of easy in-the-hands-balls.

I remember him catching a lot of balls too, to the tune of 6th best in the entire history of the National Football League, behind only Jerry Rice, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Steve Largent, and Don Hutson.  That's some good company.


I've played with a busted finger before, was still able to catch passes...rocket line drive type ones too.

Clearly the broken bone was exactly the same, and you were on the receiving end of NFL-type passes thrown by Donovan McNabb, Drew Bledsoe, and Steve Young.

And he does not cry about injuries.  He broke his leg last year and was back 7 weeks later for the Super Bowl, 9 catches 122 yards.


He's actually dropped quite a few balls in his career so far right along side some difficult ones caught.

A lot of wide receivers speak of this experience  ???


See his carreer in a gradual downwards spiral, I do.

Well, he'll be 33 this year and he's in his 12th NFL season.  This isn't exactly a newsflash.

But aside from the tip top elite receivers in the NFL today, and I'm talking Chad Johnson, Torry Holt, Steve Smith, Marvin Harrison, and Hines Ward, I want Terrell Owens on my team on Super Bowl Sunday.


 :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 19, 2006, 01:02 PM
-I want all those other receivers on my team before Owens.

-I never said he'd cry about an injury..but his fans will be sad(NS).

-I thought he would get hurt or get in trouble for something before the season   
 started and here we are..and, I don't think it's over yet. He's a fantasy risk,
 he's been consistently injury prone the last 4 years.

-I had a neighbor in Texas who was a big Fantasy/Eagles fan while I was a 49er
 guy..anyway when the 49ers finally 'dumped' him (good riddance)
 and the Eagles took him. He was like 'we got TO, we got TO--we're gonna win a SB now!'..I told him BS that he'll fight with the Qb.. watch and see. He said that there was no way they would fight ..that McNabb had the kind of arm strength that would keep TO happy ::). Anyway, no SB, fights and new team again now ;).   

-TO's career has been pretty predictable. at times he's having bad games dropping passes(because he's looking to make a play before looking the ball in) then the next game he goes out and gets 160 yards 2 or 3 TD's. He will predictably get in trouble with his mouth (as planned the media will get ahold of it), He'll predictably make 'ME,ME' TD antics, injury prone last 4-5 years--but a predictable 'hey guys look at ME, notice ME, I'm a quick healer'. A noticeable chip on his shoulder- it's always the coach or quarterback's fault, never his right? and ..lastly.. never will win the SB? I hope so please let that become true as well.

-There are many that are fooled by his Jeckyll/Hide persona--I am not. He tries to be the 'new Terrell' in media lately all smiles and what not(=BS)--actually alot of naive folks are fooled by that, but then you see how he gets pissed when he's wide open with the QB missing him deep(the QB had 3 6'7 lineman arms up in his face and had to throw high). It's coming again another meltdown...and I can't wait.

-Jerry tried to teach him how to be right he was just too stupid and egotystical to listen
--I hate him
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2006, 02:51 PM
The Steelers staunch D held the Jags scoreless most of the game, and a lot of what they finally got on us came on flubbed plays by Roethlisberger who clearly was in massive pain, doubling over after almost every throw in the 2nd half (when he finally fell apart)...

I think it's tough to say then that the Jags would've STILL won...  I think Batch is/was in a groove and we'd have had a more competitive 2nd half since the D was still playing pretty top form for us throughout despite getting no offensive help in the matter.  I think we had as good a shot to win if we'd have done the logical thing and sat Ben down and made him deal with the situation as it was instead of letting him make the call himself.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on September 19, 2006, 05:07 PM


Not only recovering from an appendectomy, but also had a 104 degree fever at kickoff.


Any chance that was something like 101.4 rather than 104?  I have to think that the team doctor wouldn't have let him play with a 104, considering he probably should have been hospitalized at that temp.  My guess is the media is inflating it.

Regardless, I'd personally like to thank him and the team for being stupid.  Batch would have been adequate and would probably have generated some more offense and any little bit would have helped during that game. 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 19, 2006, 05:12 PM
I agree it's tough to say..so that's when I use my own instincts.
It should be mentioned that with Batch in at least it would have given Pittsburgh a chance to win. Had Batch been in and Pitt scoring I feel Jags would have mirrored with more scoring. I think it's fair to mention the Jags were not aggressive offensively since they didn't have to be. Had there been a score or even some ball movement then I think their hand would have been forced. A tough loss indeed :(
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2006, 05:15 PM


Not only recovering from an appendectomy, but also had a 104 degree fever at kickoff.


Any chance that was something like 101.4 rather than 104?  I have to think that the team doctor wouldn't have let him play with a 104, considering he probably should have been hospitalized at that temp.  My guess is the media is inflating it.

Regardless, I'd personally like to thank him and the team for being stupid.  Batch would have been adequate and would probably have generated some more offense and any little bit would have helped during that game. 

I did read that it was 104 degrees, but that seems really high to me.  Maybe the media is misreporting it, but here's where I read it:

"First, he nearly dies in a motorcycle accident.

Then, there was the emergency appendectomy.

Now, 15 days after undergoing that appendectomy, Ben Roethlisberger is going to start at quarterback for the defending Super Bowl champions in a crucial early-season tilt with the Jaguars all while reportedly running a 104-degree fever."

source (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5978638)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 19, 2006, 05:29 PM

Now, 15 days after undergoing that appendectomy, Ben Roethlisberger is going to start at quarterback for the defending Super Bowl champions in a crucial early-season tilt with the Jaguars all while reportedly running a 104-degree fever."


I agree with Brent..a 104 fever is pretty close enough to death, usually requires hospital attention. I think it's 'media inflated' to make some kind of heroic storyline ::)(that backfired). Now it just looks stupid that he went out there. I feel the team could have saved some respect by pulling him at the half though I feel since the score was 0-0 there must have been some 'he can still save us..' ego's at play preventing this.

I don't like it when the media uses 'reportedly' . You never see them quoting anyone on it either, it's like a vague way to get around real facts and freely exaggerate. It's like legal gossip-- 'reportedly' makes it OK to start rumors. His twin brother? -- Allegedly.

I actually feel sorry for Cincinnati this weekend, I fear some folks are gonna be hurt by some frustrated steelers.

 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 19, 2006, 08:16 PM
Just out of curiosity Slothus, who's your NFL team and favorite players?
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2006, 12:40 AM
I already mentioned it(team) if you were really reading ;)

SF49ers
(that's it)(since 1980)

current favorite players are Frank Gore, Bryant Young, Tony Parrish, Derek Smith, Jeff Ulbrich

Past favorites are Ken Norton, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Roger Craig, Wendell Tyler, Keena Turner, Merton Hanks, Ronnie Lott, Brent Jones, John Taylor,
Garrison Hearst...Ect (too many more to mention here)

If you're asking to start ripping, them I'm ready

The DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on September 20, 2006, 01:30 AM
It was 104 supposedly...  I don't see much reason to doubt it honestly, I think Roethlisberger's said he felt well enough to play, and in the first half he seemed ok, then the 3rd qtr there was definite signs of fatigue, and the 4th he fell apart...

I think the excuse they didn't HAVE to put pressure on is bull though Slothus, they were passing when they supposedly didn't need to, and I think they knew all it would take it some connections and bam they'd be under by a point.  Bearing in mind the game went 6-0 right down to the wire and the 9-0 score didn't happen till the very end of the game...  I'm not sure of the Jags Coach and his style, but if I'm up only by 2 field goals on a team like the Steelers that DO have an offense that can open up on you at any point, then I'm playing aggressively offensively...  They seemingly had to from my POV, it wasn't like they had a real cushion or anything till the very last minutes of the game.

I bitched about Roethlisberger starting, I bitched even harder about Roethlisberger coming out in the 2nd half though.  I'm a HUGE fan of Ben's no doubt, but I think you have back-ups for this stuff, and you have to rely on them,a nd Batch has proven he's reliable enough...  It's a shame they f'd it up, and it's a double shame that Cowher today tried saying it wasn't "only Ben's fault", which I agree it was also Cowher's for letting him play, but he's saying it was other parts of the team (Ward was obviously off his game, Santonio wasn't playing up to his expectations, the O-Line collapsed around Ben a couple times, etc.). 

These are PROBLEMS, but I think the two that should share 40% each of the blame are Ben for saying he's up to it ALL week, and Cowher for allowing it to happen.

Signed:  A Frustrated Steeler Faithful  (Though I still love this team and this game, irregardless...  I was there in the Brister years, I can take anything! :) )
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 20, 2006, 06:05 AM
Nope, no ripping.  Just gonna bank that info and run with it.

 :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 20, 2006, 07:35 AM
Cowher did correct the media last night and said the temperature was "100.4" not "104".
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on September 20, 2006, 08:19 AM
Week 3's games

CBS Single game
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/03-CBS.gif)

Fox Double header
Game 1
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Game 2
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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on September 20, 2006, 10:23 AM
Cowher did correct the media last night and said the temperature was "100.4" not "104".

Heh.

100.4 is workable and I can see why he'd start then.  Still, an early game in the season, post minor surgery (I wonder if my doctor would recommend me playing contact sports a week or so after an appendectomy?) and Batch coming off a good performance.  Oops.  But thanks, I appreciate my fantasy D getting that shutout. 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2006, 11:37 AM
I think the excuse they didn't HAVE to put pressure on is bull though Slothus, they were passing when they supposedly didn't need to, and I think they knew all it would take it some connections and bam they'd be under by a point.  Bearing in mind the game went 6-0 right down to the wire and the 9-0 score didn't happen till the very end of the game...  I'm not sure of the Jags Coach and his style, but if I'm up only by 2 field goals on a team like the Steelers that DO have an offense that can open up on you at any point, then I'm playing aggressively offensively...  They seemingly had to from my POV, it wasn't like they had a real cushion or anything till the very last minutes of the game.


So, am I reading this right? You're saying that what you think I'm saying is bull however then you say you're not sure of the Jags coach and his coaching style? Which is it? I'm BSing or you're not sure? Well, I can assure you I'm not intentionally BSing--I just write it as I see it. What I've seen from the Jags the last couple of years is that they're pretty confident in their D, they don't get intimidated by 'explosive offenses'(see Colts,Steelers) and have proven they don't mind kicking field goals in games with those teams. I've actually seen quite a few low scoring games involving Jacksonville VS Pittsburgh , Indianapolis. They seem quite adept at getting those opponents to play into their gameplan.

How many times have you seen an NFL game where it's 0-0 through 2 quarters or 1.5 quarters then, from then on there's an offensive explosion? It's like 1 team scores and the other team is now more motivated to score too. All I'm saying is the Jags don't mind kicking field goals as long as their defense is working and they don't have too(not as motivated) score a TD. If they were losing by a score or more then suddenly they're motivated to do more, see?

I'll say this about Jacksonville... If they have a game on TV and I have a choice I'll not watch their game. Thanks to their defense and IMO not-an-exciting offense causes this.

PS:Bubby Brister, heh
I'm still pissed Neil O'donnel got scared and blew the SB versus Dallas.
-I really hate Dallas.. since ever, if my team is not on TV I watch Dallas games just to root against them. I really felt Pitt was owning the second half versus Dallas and had all the momentum when the 'hot dog eater' directed his team to start blitzing every down. I remember Neil's eyes getting bigger and bigger and him throwing the ball short when he still had time to loft a deep ball to burn the blitz but he choked. Dallas' defensive backs knew he would do this(throw short) and completely turned around and stopped waiting for a tasty INT while the receivers ran downfield waiting for the pass that never came..that COULD have came. Especially when Pitts line was picking up those blitzes too ::). I was PISSED.. no amount of shouting at the TV can do anything. They could have 6 SB's at this point if they played it right, oh well >:(.

Did you like 'slash' Jesse?

Sincerely,
The DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 20, 2006, 11:49 AM
I'm with Jesse.  Batch looked quite capable in Game 1 throwing 3 TD passes.  Roethlisberger looked afraid to take a hit, was doubling over after some plays, plus he was running the fever, whatever temperature it was. 

I tend to think the Steelers would have scored more than 9 points if Roethlisberger was healthy, they always do.

It's all hypothetical though, nobody can prove it one way or the other.

Bottom line is the Jaguars won.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2006, 12:03 PM
I do agree that Batch should have been used, I don't think he's gonna throw 3 TD's against Jag defense but I think the Pitt could have gotten at least 13 points with him in there and we'll never know if it would have been enough because I'm sure Jags would have played differently as well (better or worse) is Batch was in.

good point ..we'll never know (let's be clear I wasn't trying to BS anyone though)

The DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on September 20, 2006, 09:53 PM
I didn't say you were full of it or anything Jon, not sure what you meant by that, I'm just saying that the D's I think would've played equally to the game they played, and with Batch in I personally think the scoring for the Steelers would've clicked. 

Ward was blaming himself at times, however I think the plays he blamed himself were more Ben's "off" night than Ward's rustiness, and that had Batch been throwing we'd have seen a vastly different game score-wise...  My $ would've still been with the Steelers either way.  It's all hypothetical though, and means nothing...  Same as the BS last year when every game the Steelers went into everyone said, "well if ____ was in", or "if ____ had not been hurt", the Steelers supposedly wouldn't have won and moved on in the playoffs...  It was just people "thinking out loud" about the moment, but meant jack & **** towards the outcome or how the game is played.

To me, the Steelers made the wrong calls, and they lost the game because of it...  I think Ben out, Batch in (even part of the game) would've meant a different outcome...  The D's played equal and I don't think they'd have shown anything different had a different QB stepped in for Pittsburgh though.  I just think the Steelers O would've produced more and the Jags would've played the same, as it was their style and they played hard.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on September 21, 2006, 11:23 AM
Rothlisberger isn't going to get his legs back under him by the Steelers playing batch.

He'll be fine - and starting him was the right move even if the result wasn't good for the Steelers.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on September 21, 2006, 02:52 PM
True Rob, but playing him that soon after surgery was such an obvious mistake, I mean you have to admit it...  He was doubled over after every throw from about the 3rd quarter on.  Where I do agree with you though is I think he played a more decent first half and that he had it going better, but with his fever and the obvious distress he was in in the 2nd half I think he ate it hard and he should've been pulled for Batch in the 2nd half...  I'm on the fence if I'd started Batch but I think I'd at least have played him only half a game and Ben the first half.  I still feel it was the wrong call and cost them.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 22, 2006, 11:17 AM
I'd agree with Rob if it wasn't a conference game. Since it was a conference game though I agree with Jesse and feel it could come back to bite the Steelers in the ass. You can be sure the media will be talking about it too if conference ranking is an issue where the Steelers are concerned come December- They'll point to this decision made on quaterbacking in this game.

-J 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 24, 2006, 05:33 PM
I know this isn't as detailed as my NFL posts normally are, but let me just say that at the half in the Giants/Seahawks game, there isn't a big enough jar of Vaseline to soothe the Giants in this one.  Manning has thrown 3 picks, Burress is fumbling and bumbling all over the field.  Whew.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2006, 01:59 AM
Steelers had me mother f'ing the screen today...  I couldn't have been much more annoyed at the way they played.  I will say though that I think Roethlisberger actually bounced back compared to last week, and that a lot of the things that reflected poorly on him weren't his fault...

So many dropped passes it wasn't funny, especially with how accurately thrown many of them were.  And the turnovers...  If one thing could be cited today as why they lost, it simply is turnovers...  Just atrocious. 

The D looked fantastic even against Cincy who are a great offensive team, so that was promising...  Despite some issues with pass coverage, which wasn't bad all day it just had some ups and downs, the D looked great.  But my god, the asinine turnovers just killed it, and the Steelers once again blew the game instead of losing because they were the worse team on the field I completely believe.  Onto next week it goes I guess...  Just frustrating as all hell.

Oh and my gf's kids both lost hearbreakers to a team that blew them out earlier in the season, which didn't add much to my weekend.  I was irked all around when it comes to football I guess.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on September 25, 2006, 08:38 AM
I know this isn't as detailed as my NFL posts normally are, but let me just say that at the half in the Giants/Seahawks game, there isn't a big enough jar of Vaseline to soothe the Giants in this one.  Manning has thrown 3 picks, Burress is fumbling and bumbling all over the field.  Whew.

Yeah ... that was rather ugly.  The Giants managed to drop 27 points on the Seahawks in the 4th quarter, but by that time, it didn't really matter.  If they could find a way to play every quarter of a game the way they play in the 4th quarter, they'd win the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on September 25, 2006, 10:29 AM
Bucs... oh Bucs...  My lament:

Finally score some points, finally play some defense... manage a 1 point lead with under 2:00 left...

3rd and about 5 - the Panthers have used all their time outs...  a 1st down wins the game...

Deep to Galloway!?

WTF?

I'm as big a Gruden fan as there is, but the people in Tampa calling for his head got some serious ammunition on that one...  maybe Galloway was just supposed to draw double coverage off of the underneath guys and Simms threw it to him anyway... who knows.

Next thing you know we're punting - and Kasay (great for my fantasy team...) seemed to have a lock on fieldgoals over 50 yards.  a little over a minute later it's over.


And Chris Simms is out for probably 2 months... ruptured spleen (removed last night), happened during the game... and the kid kept playing.  Wow.

0-3.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 25, 2006, 11:00 AM
Bucs... oh Bucs...  My lament:

Finally score some points, finally play some defense... manage a 1 point lead with under 2:00 left...

3rd and about 5 - the Panthers have used all their time outs...  a 1st down wins the game...

Deep to Galloway!?

WTF?

I'm as big a Gruden fan as there is, but the people in Tampa calling for his head got some serious ammunition on that one...  maybe Galloway was just supposed to draw double coverage off of the underneath guys and Simms threw it to him anyway... who knows.

Next thing you know we're punting - and Kasay (great for my fantasy team...) seemed to have a lock on fieldgoals over 50 yards.  a little over a minute later it's over.


And Chris Simms is out for probably 2 months... ruptured spleen (removed last night), happened during the game... and the kid kept playing.  Wow.

0-3.

Oh geez yeah, the fork has already been stuck in the Bucs.  0-3 and they have a tough schedule:

 1 Sun, Sep 10 Baltimore  LOSS
 2 Sun, Sep 17 at Atlanta  LOSS
 3 Sun, Sep 24 Carolina  LOSS
 4 -- bye -- -- --
 5 Sun, Oct 8 at New Orleans  Poor odds
 6 Sun, Oct 15 Cincinnati  Very poor odds
 7 Sun, Oct 22 Philadelphia  Very poor odds
 8 Sun, Oct 29 at NY Giants  Poor odds
 9 Sun, Nov 5 New Orleans  Poor odds
 10 Mon, Nov 13 at Carolina  Poor odds
 11 Sun, Nov 19 Washington  Decent odds
 12 Thu, Nov 23 at Dallas  Very poor odds
 13 Sun, Dec 3 at Pittsburgh  Very poor odds
 14 Sun, Dec 10 Atlanta  Very poor odds
 15 Sun, Dec 17 at Chicago  Very poor odds
 16 Sun, Dec 24 at Cleveland Decent odds
 17 Sun, Dec 31 Seattle  Very poor odds


Looking at their schedule, let's assume their going to beat the Redskins and Browns, and let's say they surprise 2 good teams at most.

With that, I project a 4-12 season.

 :-\


Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2006, 10:59 PM
On Tuesday, the Cowboys also practiced without tight end Jason Witten, whose wife was having a baby. Terry Glenn practiced, albeit with several stitches in his thumb.

"He was trying to cut some tape off his uniform," Parcells said. "He had his hand down in his pants and he missed. Fortunately he cut his hand."

 :o
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on September 26, 2006, 11:04 PM
Yep.  The Bucs schedule is absolutely brutal.  I was optimistic about a 9-7 or 10-6 type season, but I was also expecting them to be 2-1 or so by this point.

I was encouraged that they were at least competative this week and had a shot to win it in the last 2 minutes... but losing Simms for at least two months is probably the end of the season.

Unless the defense starts playing lights out and Gradkowski steps in and has a Rothlisberger type season (highly unlikely but the team is really high on the kid), I think 4 wins is probably being generous.

As much as I want them to win every game, I'm wondering if they wouldn't be better off getting a really high draft pick and trying to get Brady Quinn.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on September 27, 2006, 12:30 AM
On Tuesday, the Cowboys also practiced without tight end Jason Witten, whose wife was having a baby. Terry Glenn practiced, albeit with several stitches in his thumb.

"He was trying to cut some tape off his uniform," Parcells said. "He had his hand down in his pants and he missed. Fortunately he cut his hand."

 :o


Riiiiiiight, let's put Glenn on the bench for this week then, pending psychiatric evaluation for overwhelming stupidity.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 27, 2006, 01:08 AM
What the ****?  Did someone poison Owens tonight?


DALLAS -- Terrell Owens was taken to the emergency room for an undisclosed reason Tuesday night, and doctors treating the Dallas Cowboys receiver were trying to induce vomiting, according to a television report.


Owens was brought by a fire rescue crew to Baylor Medical Center, Dallas-Fort Worth television station KTVT reported, citing sources the television station did not identify. A reporter for the station later said she saw Owens being wheeled down the hall.


Calls from The Associated Press to Owens' agent, his publicist and the Cowboys were not immediately returned Tuesday night. The hospital told the AP that they do not have a patient registered by Owens' name.


KTVT said a Dallas police spokesperson was en route to the hospital to talk about a "high profile case."
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on September 27, 2006, 08:10 AM
It looks like he had an adverse reaction to painkillers:

Source: T.O. hospitalized after reaction to medicine (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2604395)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on September 27, 2006, 08:26 AM
Week 4 TV maps

CBS Doubleheader
Game 1
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Game 2
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Fox single game
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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on September 27, 2006, 10:14 AM
TO attempted suicide (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2604395) :o
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on September 27, 2006, 10:21 AM
:o

More T.O. drama!  Shocking!

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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on September 27, 2006, 10:27 AM
Yikes.  I take it back about him playing against the Titans or the Eagles.

It was only a matter of time before something happened with this guy.  I admit I didn't think it would be something like this, but now I'm even more glad I passed on him in the draft.

Oh yeah, and get well soon T.O., I'm going to be hosting a candle light vigil until you're all better.

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 27, 2006, 10:35 AM
I cannot ******* believe this.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on September 27, 2006, 10:43 AM
I don't follow the pros the way you guys do--was he supposed to be able to play this week, with his hand injury?  Or was he already out for the week?
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 27, 2006, 10:43 AM
I don't follow the pros the way you guys do--was he supposed to be able to play this week, with his hand injury?  Or was he already out for the week?

He was questionable for this Sunday vs. the Titans and definite for week 5 vs. the Eagles.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on September 27, 2006, 10:55 AM
He was questionable for this Sunday vs. the Titans and definite for week 5 vs. the Eagles.

Oh, okay.  Thanks.  I was wondering if it was a situation where he knew he wouldn't be playing this week, so this was a publicity stunt to keep his name out there anyway.  This also makes the Eagles game even more of a soap opera than it already was gonna be. . .
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 27, 2006, 11:00 AM
Well I don't see how he's going to go from depressed and possibly suicidal to playing again this season.  Chances are he's done for the year, but I'm rooting for him.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on September 27, 2006, 11:08 AM
Well I don't see how he's going to go from depressed and possibly suicidal to playing again this season.  Chances are he's done for the year, but I'm rooting for him.

Assuming this isn't just one big publicity stunt, of course.  And we all know that T.O. would never, ever do anything like that.  That's something prima donnas do.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on September 27, 2006, 11:18 AM
I think it's more of a cry for help (obviously) and attention.  When you really want to kill yourself, you don't overdose on pills.  It leaves too much of a chance for you to be discovered and eventually saved.  Is he messed up?  Of course.  Does he really want to die?  I don't think so.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on September 27, 2006, 11:41 AM
I think it's more of a cry for help (obviously) and attention.

(http://pr0n.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/1/12/O_RLY.jpg)

Say it ain't so!

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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 27, 2006, 12:15 PM
The friend mentioned in the report is Owens' publicist, Kim Etheridge, according to reports. She told The Fort Worth Star-Telegram and The Dallas Morning News that that reports of an attempted suicide were false.

Etheridge told the Star-Telegram that Owens was "fine."

Etheridge said she called 911 because Owens was groggy and lethargic. After taking some supplements "it kicked in a reaction" with the painkillers, she told the Star-Telegram.

"Here's a person whose body is so clean, it really had a negative reaction to the medication and supplements he was taking," Etheredge told The Morning News. "Thank goodness someone was there to call an ambulance."

Etheridge told The Morning News that Owens has been released from the hospital.

-------------------------------------------------

If this were really a suicide attempt, I doubt he'd be home already.  I've seen this plenty of times, these people are tied up in the hospital and a rubber room for days after suicide attempts.

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on September 27, 2006, 12:21 PM
I want to hear it from someone other than his publicist.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on September 27, 2006, 12:36 PM
I want to hear it from someone other than his publicist.

How 'bout his agent?

"Next question."
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 27, 2006, 01:14 PM
As soon as I heard that he was already released from the hospital, at home, and holding a press conference at 2:30 PM, I knew he didn't try to take his life last night.

EDIT:  This from Dallascowboys.com:

Multiple people with knowledge of this sort of incident and these types of investigations maintain that if this indeed was determined to be a suicide attempt the DPD would not be allowing Owens to leave Baylor Medical Center, as he already has, and that it would subject Owens to a 72-hour psychological investigation.

Owens will be holding a 2:30 PM EST press conference outside of his residence.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on September 27, 2006, 02:35 PM
****, Baylor is a block from here.  I should have run over earlier to try to get the real story.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: john todd on September 27, 2006, 04:57 PM
today has been freakin' hilarious.   first no one knew, then suicide, then skepticism, and finally TO Owens denies everything.

all day long the sports stations have been interviewing suicide specialists, and speculating on if TO will ever play again, and he will probably play sunday.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on September 27, 2006, 04:59 PM
It was all just a big, silly, misunderstanding (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/09/27/sports/s124051D10.DTL).

Whew.

Random thoughts from a cynic:

* T.O. said he's gonna practice tomorrow, and will be able to play this weekend.  I say he'll wind up sitting this week out, just "to be safe," and that--hey, look at this!--his first game back will be against the Eagles up in Philadelphia.  Ratings bo-nan-za.

* T.O. would never kill himself, because then he wouldn't be able to sit back and enjoy the fuss that everybody was making about him.

* If this was anyone else in the world, I wouldn't be being such an ******* about an attempted suicide--but this is T.O. we're talking about.  The man is a walking media circus and the biggest attention whore in all of sports.  He's eating this **** up with a spoon.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 28, 2006, 11:32 AM
Look on the bright side, at least we didn't have to see Drew Rosenhaus through all this.

Owens might even play this Sunday vs. the Titans.

I'll wrap up my thoughts on this subject with some of the more memorable T.O. appearances where he loves to be....

In front of a wall of cameras:

(http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/2000/0925/photo/a_owens_i.jpg)

(http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/nfl/2002/1215/photo/s_owens_i.jpg)

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(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9htfR4c6RtFRhMALs6jzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBsdmIydTZhBHNlYwNwcm9mBHZ0aWQDSTAwMV83MA--/SIG=12n8s69dg/EXP=1159543452/**http%3a//enrico.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/terrell_owens_star.jpg)

(http://refernet.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/terrell_owens_with_nicollette_sheridan.jpg)

(http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20050812/mcnabb1_47747.jpg)

(http://video.download.com/i/dl/vdl/media/image/53/17/1753_320x240.jpg)

(http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/08/10/PH2005081002404.jpg)

(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4Hw6BtFzkEBgMOjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBsdmIydTZhBHNlYwNwcm9mBHZ0aWQDSTAwMV83MA--/SIG=132f4dsor/EXP=1159543408/**http%3a//i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/pete_mcentegart/08/24/ten.spot/p1_owens.jpg)

(http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nfl/2005/1108/photo/a_owens_195.jpg)

(http://images.radcity.net/4183/1362190.jpg)

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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on October 2, 2006, 11:46 AM
That ass-kicking the Bears dropped on the Seahawks last night was a thing of beauty.  I love watching their defense play.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on October 2, 2006, 01:02 PM
The best part about this weekend was that the Bucs didn't lose.

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Broem on October 2, 2006, 09:37 PM
That ass-kicking the Bears dropped on the Seahawks last night was a thing of beauty.  I love watching their defense play.

I sure hope the Bears keep it up!  I can not believe how good the defense AND the offense looks so far.  Da Bears!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on October 9, 2006, 12:32 AM
Oh my god the Steelers tonight just looked like crap...  Everyone's still on the kick that they need to just get in a groove, get over this hump and all click together, but part of me really wonders if it's just a deeper issue with the team.  The secondary ate it ALL night...  once again too Townsend's height became an issue with his ability to defend.

I'm just disappointed right now...  1 and 3 to start the season is just attrocious.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on October 9, 2006, 12:42 AM
Less atrocious than 0-4 - which is what the Bucs are.

Although it was fun waching Gradkowski take over - he was pretty impressive for a guy getting his first start - 2 TD's, 0 INT's and a 108 QB Rating.

Unfortunately, special teams gave Reggie Bush the late Punt Return TD so instead of all the headlines being about the impressive rookie QB, they're about New Orleans and Reggie Bush...

This team needs youth on defense and they need it badly.  Hopefully if they end up picking in the top 5 again in next year's draft, they'll spend their first 3 or 4 picks on defense.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 10, 2006, 02:39 PM
A most excellent weekend for sports

first my team wins... yeah niners! ;D

next TO gets punked in Philly; 2 good results here 1. cowboys lose ;D 2. TO sucked...even better, through 4 games she's( ;)) playing it out pretty well to my preseason prediction of being a bust this year. ;D

Topping it off, Yankees get punked out of playoffs yet again, horay! ;D

 8)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 12, 2006, 10:15 AM
Mikey? 

Where's your weekly channel game coverage overlay? :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on October 12, 2006, 11:07 AM
I figured people could just check the link I posted each week, but I could do the maps if it's easier for everyone.

CBS Doubleheader
Game 1
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/06-CBS-E.gif)

Game 2
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/06-CBS-L.gif)

Fox single game
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/06-FOX.gif)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 12, 2006, 01:52 PM
Ahh right! A San Fran game on TV 2 weeks in a row! ;D
Thx Mikey!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 15, 2006, 04:03 PM
A most excellent weekend for sports

first my team wins... yeah niners! ;D

next TO gets punked in Philly; 2 good results here 1. cowboys lose ;D 2. TO sucked...even better, through 4 games she's( ;)) playing it out pretty well to my preseason prediction of being a bust this year. ;D

Topping it off, Yankees get punked out of playoffs yet again, horay! ;D

 8)

Hey I'm just wondering if you have anything cute to say now, after the Cowboys game today.

I'll give you a hint here:

Good things come in 3's.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on October 17, 2006, 12:08 AM
What a crazy ******* game, ******* Bears got lucky again...they should have lost to the Vikes and tonight and got the breaks in both.  THeir D is phenomenal I give you that but the O is not as good as being hyped
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on October 17, 2006, 01:57 AM
Steelers stepped it up Sunday...  Things clicked finally, it was a much needed win.  I just hope they realize there are plenty of tough(er) opponents on the menu too and that they've got to get it together even more... 

BTW the take-down of Polamalu on the turn-over by his hair was fantastic.  :)  Don't see that every day.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on October 17, 2006, 09:12 AM
What a crazy ******* game, ******* Bears got lucky again...they should have lost to the Vikes and tonight and got the breaks in both. THeir D is phenomenal I give you that but the O is not as good as being hyped

The Bears are really the only team I keep track of - with that said, that was probably the best (and worst) pro football game I've ever seen.

Great comeback (on behalf of the defense) - horrible performance by the offense.  Grossman played  like he was being paid to throw the game.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on October 17, 2006, 09:40 AM
There was a game a few years ago (Bucs vs Colts) that was the craziest game I've ever seen, this one is a close second.  I still can't believe the Bears won that game.  Anyone see Green's news conference?  Classic...
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on October 17, 2006, 12:51 PM
  Anyone see Green's news conference?  Classic...

That was great.  I feel sorry for the guy, his team, and all of the fans ..... but his meltdown had me cracking up.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on October 17, 2006, 02:56 PM
Warning, he swears a couple of times...Here it is (http://www.kare11.com/video/player.aspx?aid=35800&bw=)

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 17, 2006, 05:38 PM
Ooookay then coach!

Nobody thought they had a chance to beat the Bears anyhow.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 17, 2006, 08:14 PM
A most excellent weekend for sports

first my team wins... yeah niners! ;D

next TO gets punked in Philly; 2 good results here 1. cowboys lose ;D 2. TO sucked...even better, through 4 games she's( ;)) playing it out pretty well to my preseason prediction of being a bust this year. ;D

Topping it off, Yankees get punked out of playoffs yet again, horay! ;D

 8)

Hey I'm just wondering if you have anything cute to say now, after the Cowboys game today.

I'll give you a hint here:

Good things come in 3's.

Well, I ?guess? you are talking about TO's 3 TD :-\ ::). I still believe TO is a fansasy bust still so far..I challenge you to argue it...? My position is that in week 1 he had an 'average' TO week..something you'd expect him to get every week in a normal year and what since then?
So, he gave owners 3 TD's this week ::)...and so that gives up 2 decent weeks out of 5 ..which for a short fantasy season (for most good leagues have playoffs a couple weeks before the end of the season because star's rest) that equals a bust in a short season..and hopefully a lot of weekly losses for those who didn't see it coming and made him a early round pick ;). So, I predicted all this before the season, that he would bust for fantasy, that he would fight injury ect ..so, whatever. Can some fantasy owner come in here and tell me they were not frustrated with TO's production after 4 weeks?...crickets?

Could you be talking about the Plowboys 3 wins so far or their score at halftime to a sad team? If it's about the win, I don't care..I only savior losses by that team and not wins so it matters little to me. Win or lose I still hate them.

In other news....Coach Green made me laugh last nite. That response was hillarious. The last I saw a game like that the team came back with a return and D TD to win, and even that was a while ago, however..I've never personally seen a game where the team made up 3 non-offense TD's to win..Crazy! What is it with those Cardinals-- they've been letting teams back into games every week by their defense falling apart then this week the D looks better and this time their offense and special teams give it up= same result :(. Even in their only win they let the opponent back in with a chance to tie it up ::).

--My 49ers ate it bad but at least they scored more points against San Diego than anyone :-\. We'll get mostly D players in next years' draft.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 17, 2006, 08:47 PM
A most excellent weekend for sports

first my team wins... yeah niners! ;D

next TO gets punked in Philly; 2 good results here 1. cowboys lose ;D 2. TO sucked...even better, through 4 games she's( ;)) playing it out pretty well to my preseason prediction of being a bust this year. ;D

Topping it off, Yankees get punked out of playoffs yet again, horay! ;D

 8)

Hey I'm just wondering if you have anything cute to say now, after the Cowboys game today.

I'll give you a hint here:

Good things come in 3's.

Well, I ?guess? you are talking about TO's 3 TD :-\ ::). I still believe TO is a fansasy bust still so far..I challenge you to argue it...? My position is that in week 1 he had an 'average' TO week..something you'd expect him to get every week in a normal year and what since then?
So, he gave owners 3 TD's this week ::)...and so that gives up 2 decent weeks out of 5 ..

Week 1 - healthy, good yards and a TD
Week 2 - broke hand in 1st quarter
Week 3 - bye
Week 4 - 5 rec, 88 yards including a 46 yard catch
Week 5 - only bad week, targeted 13 times, caught 3.  Philadelphia game.
Week 6 - 3 TDs

If you eliminate the broken hand game, he has had 1 bad game and has been pretty good.  It all depends where in the draft you got him.  If he's your #2 WR like on my team, he's been great.  It depends what he does from here on out.

My beef is that you refuse to acknowledge that he is one of the Top 10 receivers of all time.  He's ranked 4th in history in multiple TD games and in the top 10 in all time TD's and yards.

The other thing is that he is tough.  He comes back from injuries twice as fast as everyone else.  And he's hard to tackle, he specializes in yards after the catch.

If you're relying on him as your #1 WR, then you might be a little disappointed with him so far despite the 4 TDs due to the Week 2 broken hand and bad Week 5 game, but if he's your 2nd or 3rd best receiver on your team like he is on mine with Torry Holt, Donte' Stallworth and even Marques Colston (WR/TE 400 yards, 4 TDs), then believe me you're not complaining.  But almost nobody drafted TO as their #1 WR this year with the hamstring in the preseason (yet another injury he totally healed from, and quickly).

Go ahead and ask the people in my league who is eager to face my squad.  TO is one of many reasons.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on October 18, 2006, 08:33 AM
Week 7 maps

CBS single game
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/07-CBS.gif)

Fox double header
Game 1
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/07-FOX-E.gif)

Game 2
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/07-FOX-L.gif)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Ryan on October 18, 2006, 06:22 PM
That second Fox game is pretty funny. The people in Oakland don't even get the Oakland game. :D
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on October 18, 2006, 06:24 PM
That second Fox game is pretty funny. The people in Oakland don't even get the Oakland game. :D
Probably because they know it will not be sold out
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Broem on October 18, 2006, 07:57 PM
I'm a little bit late with the MNF comments.  Anyway, I could not believe the Bears got that one.  Maybe it's because I'm a Bears fan but for some reason I kept thinking the entire game that "the Bears still got a chance....they still got a chance...." I thought that was really strange that they actually won it though.  I was jumping around the house and screaming like a mad man that last 5 minutes.  LOL.   

Anyway, there went any thoughts of 16-0 for me though.  I am not even that sure they can win a playoff game if Grossman has more turd games like that.  Nevertheless I think the Bears are going to have a crazy good season.  It won't be dull.   
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 22, 2006, 09:20 AM
Boy, this week for me being in a section of the NE on the map, may be the first time I really have no interest in any of these games.  Browns and Broncos - nope, Jets and Lions - nope, Colts and Redskins maybe a little bit but barely.

Plus no Sunday night game due to the World Series that I'm also not watching  :-X

Guess I'm kinda uninspired until Giants/Cowboys on MNF
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on October 22, 2006, 07:26 PM
Steelers game was heartbreaking...   :-\  Fun to watch but a frustrating loss and really starts putting the Steelers feet into the fire here.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 22, 2006, 10:48 PM
I disagree Jesse. I think if they lose 2 more we can say it then.

My take on this week

--The Bucs/Eagles game had a lot of similarities between the
   bears/cardinals game last week :o ::) :P That kick was 
   something though, I bet it pissed off a lot of football poolers
--I can't believe/didn't expect so many points scored in a Steelers
  /Falcons game. With those defenses?..Wow :o
  Hines Ward..Now THAT is a Good WR weekend 3 TD's AND ALOT
  of yards...it was just..shoeless! Too bad the Steeres line had to dumb it up with the game on the line and a FS! ::). Considering how much I dislike M. Vick I was dissapointed Pittsburgh lost :(.
--Pleased with the seahawks loss or.. er, ah.. potential QB loss?
--ALOT of upsets this weekend
--Pleased with the Cardinal loss too..I wonder if the Raiders 
   were who C. Green thought they were? LOL. Yay, for 2 weeks my team is not last in their division! :D

Brought to you by the DS ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 22, 2006, 10:56 PM


--The Bucs/Eagles game had a lot of similarities between the
   bears/cardinals game last week :o ::) :P That kick was 
   something though

The Eagles rallied from being down all game with offense, then lost on a 62 yard freak FG.  The Cardinals on MNF had the game totally in hand and then lost to the Bears on special teams and turnovers.  Where is the similarity there?  In one case the Eagles rallied with offense but still lost, in the other the Cardinals had the game stripped from them on freak defensive plays.



  Hines Ward..Now THAT is a Good WR weekend 3 TD's AND ALOT
  of yards...it was just..shoeless!

I'll take that as another shot at Terrell Owens.  Hines Ward won't be anywhere near Owens in any of the all time categories when the dust settles.  You still didn't reply to my last post.




--Pleased with the seahawks loss or.. er, ah.. potential QB loss?


Pleased that another human being is injured?  Nice.  But having read your take on Steve Irwin, I can't say that I'm surprised.


 ???
 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 23, 2006, 11:44 AM


--The Bucs/Eagles game had a lot of similarities between the
   bears/cardinals game last week :o ::) :P That kick was 
   something though

The Eagles rallied from being down all game with offense, then lost on a 62 yard freak FG.  The Cardinals on MNF had the game totally in hand and then lost to the Bears on special teams and turnovers.  Where is the similarity there?  In one case the Eagles rallied with offense but still lost, in the other the Cardinals had the game stripped from them on freak defensive plays.
[

In the game? I'll tell you -- Another huge mismatch in statistics, another game where the defensive makes up the majority of the scoring for the winning team, another game where the team with high offensive stats loses to the team with hardly any, another game where a rare skill play (yes, a 62 yard field goals are as rare as kick returns-- actually more rare) decides the win. The flow of the game WAS different but there was still much similarity between the 2 games. Bet I could find more similarities if you're feeling deep today Dressel?

"Hines Ward won't be anywhere near Owens in any of the all time categories when the dust settles."

'Super bowl wins a part of' HW- 1    TO- 0 and...justifiably, who will have more fans OR who will be more hated in the end regardless of stats?

On another note, I watched Marvin Harrison score a couple more TD's yesterday - no fancy end zone celebration as usual(ala JR)..he doesn't have to draw attention or respect to himself, he's earned it by his play. Really classy and modest..I like it. Some veterans in the league after several years still feel they need to do this...Q: 'what's he gonna do next?(in the end zone)' A: I don't give a **** ::).

--I also noticed the league is starting to crack down on excessive TD celebrations in the end zone this year. The call against Randel Ell(did I spell it wrong Jesse?) was like the 3rd or 4th one I've seen this year already..and those guys are doing things that I've seen for years. 'unsportsman-like conduct in the end zone' are they gonna rename the rule after players?--  can think of 4 or 5. but really 2 who don't get enough attention at home.

"You still didn't reply to my last post."

 :'(I didn't know it was required :'(..sorry to neglect you for that ::) but there were no Q's in there..and, I didn't feel baited either so = no reply.

Yes, I am pleased he is hurt..I know it is recoverable. I also know alot of folks who smile or have a sigh of relief when the the 'other' teams important guy gets(not critically) hurt(potentially helping their team to win)..actually, you can see it at stadiums ect in all team sports. The difference between me and them is that I will say it and admit it. You can paint it how you want I could care less.
People get hurt all the time in a contact sport like football. Just because someone gets hit hard and doesn't break a bone doesn't mean it didn't hurt like hell for them..and..yet amazingly, Dressel, folks cheer when their favorites defensive players makes a huge hit. People get hit hard and fans cheer--what an amazing point you have discovered Dressel!It's the business of it. Football is a rough game and there are fans of offense and defense.
The offensive fans never point out a punishing block do they ::)? Now, when a player kicks a player in the head or otherwise cheats (see Sapp's career changing face mask on Jerry Rice) I don't condone that--most folks would not of course.

I guess what I'm, saying is that, yeah if I only watched football to see great, no contact, walking into the end zone untouched-type-plays then I would be a like-to-see-no-one-hurt-type of Fan. I don't think that exists if you truly love football..unless you like FLAG football ::).

The DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 23, 2006, 10:27 PM


Yes, I am pleased he is hurt..I will say it and admit it. You can paint it how you want I could care less.

The DS

You're not going to find anyone else to agree with you there, and you're not gonna find anyone to take your side in the Irwin thread either.

All I can say is that your thought process is disturbing, at a minimum.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on October 23, 2006, 11:19 PM
Out of all the sports fans I've talked to in sports bars and at various message boards, it's generally considered one of the most classless things you can do to wish injury on or celebrate the injury of a player.

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on October 23, 2006, 11:58 PM
I think it's Randle El, but I could very well be wrong on that...  I know the El part is right though...  1 L, not 2.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 24, 2006, 12:47 AM
Ok, thanks Jesse
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 24, 2006, 10:10 PM
Weekly Terrell Owens Update:

Week 1 - 6 rec, 80 yards, 1 TD
Week 2 - broke hand in 1st quarter
Week 3 - bye
Week 4 - 5 rec, 88 yards, 0 TD
Week 5 - 3 rec, 45 yards, 0 TD
Week 6 - 5 rec, 45 yards, 3 TD
Week 7 - 6 rec, 98 yards, 1 TD
--------------------------------------------------
Totals (5.25 games): 28 rec, 375 yards, 5 TD

Average game: 5.3 rec, 71 yards, 0.95 TD

League Avg. WR game: 29 yards, 0.15 TD
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on October 24, 2006, 11:15 PM
(http://ideaspot.net/nfl/NFC_North/small/novikes-sm.gif) ???

What do you have against the Vikings? (other than they will be one of 6 teams in the NFC Playoffs making it harder for the Giants to get a spot)

Shouldn't you be hating the Eagles, Redskins or Cowboys instead?
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 24, 2006, 11:49 PM
Oddly enough I really like the entire NFC East, especially the Giants and Eagles.  Like watching the Cowboys too.  Skins are alright.

Well, if I could have found a flag that says "Jeff Scott" rather than the Vikings one, I'd have gone with that instead.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on October 24, 2006, 11:51 PM
Weekly Terrell Owens Update:

Week 1 - 6 rec, 80 yards, 1 TD
Week 2 - broke hand in 1st quarter
Week 3 - bye
Week 4 - 5 rec, 88 yards, 0 TD
Week 5 - 3 rec, 45 yards, 0 TD
Week 6 - 5 rec, 45 yards, 3 TD
Week 7 - 6 rec, 98 yards, 1 TD
--------------------------------------------------
Totals (5.25 games): 28 rec, 375 yards, 5 TD

Average game: 5.3 rec, 71 yards, 0.95 TD

League Avg. WR game: 29 yards, 0.15 TD

And Romo seems to have a fair crush on him, so it should only get better. 

Until he blows up. 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 25, 2006, 12:37 AM
And what do you have against the niners? And..since they are/have been a ****** team at best the last 3 years and counting what really is there to hate about them? I certainly hope it isn't something entirely shallow like because I like them or anything :-\. If there's a real reason..what is it?

Brent..I think if when the Plowboyz lose 3 more games then I think you likely see a TO blowup. You won't however see a TO blowover when he makes a game-critical, 20-yards-open 4th down drop. What's with all the slips? The announcer says it's because he's so tall :P. Saw some good hits on him this week...I don't care how fast he gets up..I love it. Hopefully he'll blow it again this year, and have a blow-up. If this happens and the 'Pokes had some kind of protective clause then I hope they release him and he is never signed by anyone again for more than 1 year term.

Watched the game, was pleased with the result. Felt that TO had a usual week..the kind of week I've learned to expect from a TO(at least 100 and at least 1 TD). Well, we've now seen close to that 3 out of 6 weeks..and the team Owner himself even claimed he was a little dissapointed in Owen's production thus far. I'd be willing to bet that alot of scoring only leagues were pissed after the first third of the year on their pick of him.   

Owens' touchdown celeb? I usually don't care but..what was he swinging at?! Was he punching away the demons that made him turn his head to make a play before looking in the ball on the 4th down pass? Was that it?..?
Oh, he was punching away his critics and doubters like me. I see.. that ole' chip on the shoulder is acting up again.

Update: There is NO PERFECT lasting Qb match with Owens
No matter how many times Analysts ask " is this the match for TO?"
 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on October 25, 2006, 08:24 AM
Update: There is NO PERFECT lasting Qb match with Owens
No matter how many times Analysts ask " is this the match for TO?"
 

I think there are a couple of good matches out there.  Brett Favre definitely wouldn't take TO's ****.  And to a lesser extent, neither would Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on October 25, 2006, 08:37 AM
This week's maps

CBS Doubleheader
Game 1
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/08-CBS-E.gif)

Game 2
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/08-CBS-L.gif)

Fox single game
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/08-FOX.gif)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 25, 2006, 02:09 PM
So, folks without an NFL package get no game if their area is white? That sucks :(
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 25, 2006, 02:10 PM
Yeah I did get nutted on that CBS 1:00 game.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 25, 2006, 02:31 PM
I can't believe the networks do that...what are they airing on TV instead :-\?

Definately something I miss from living in Texas; I could get up later to watch the early games--the disadvantage being staying up late on Mondays watching the game..and if it went to OT...a red-eyed tues. morn ::).

kinda crappy now, though ..when I finally turn on the games the first Quarters are almost over :(. I can't imagine not having a game though..that would suck.   
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on October 30, 2006, 01:52 AM
Pittsburgh put every shooting and other major story down tonight for the Steelers...  Good lord that was hard to watch.  They really earned another loss though, and got what they deserved.  You'd think after the 3rd interception someone might just guess he's not seeing clearly, maybe suffering from the previous week's injury yet, and throw Batch in to get the game won that you NEED won, while it's still in reach.  blah

There were some really good plays around the NFL today though in general so at least there were some good highlights to catch and stuff. 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 30, 2006, 11:13 PM
Holy Smokes! Has anyone else noticed the career game Tom Brady is having right now against the supposed staunch Vikings defense? The vikes have to be taking their worst beating this year right now! Brady nearly 360 yards and 4 TD's and almost a whole 4th qtr remaining....I would really hate to be the fantasy opponent of whoever picked up Brady tonite-they're in for some trouble! :o

The DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2006, 12:12 PM
Holy Smokes! Has anyone else noticed the career game Tom Brady is having right now against the supposed staunch Vikings defense? The vikes have to be taking their worst beating this year right now! Brady nearly 360 yards and 4 TD's and almost a whole 4th qtr remaining....I would really hate to be the fantasy opponent of whoever picked up Brady tonite-they're in for some trouble! :o

The DS

Yeah apparently the Pats decided they were not going to run at all on the Vikings.  Throw throw throw.  Dillon and Maroney combined for 11 touches total. 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 1, 2006, 12:23 PM
More negative news for Terrell Owens

Apparently, he didn't fare to well on this years' Most Overrated Player national poll

LB Brian Urlacher was 2nd!? :o
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on November 1, 2006, 01:16 PM
LB Brian Urlacher was 2nd!? :o

Yeah ... I didn't understand that one.  There aren't enough good things that can be said about that guy.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 1, 2006, 01:57 PM
LB Brian Urlacher was 2nd!? :o

Yeah ... I didn't understand that one.  There aren't enough good things that can be said about that guy.

Agreed, I get the others though.

The DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2006, 02:06 PM
About Owens and Urlacher at the top of the "Most Overrated Player" poll...

The media may as well rename the poll "Players that all the other NFL players are most jealous of" poll.

That's how I read the results.

If I remember correctly, Jeter was near the top of the baseball one a couple years ago.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 1, 2006, 02:38 PM
Yes, you remembered it correctly..I thought about it too. There is something to your renaming of it as well. When was this poll completed?

about TO-- I would agree here solely based on his lower touchdowns this year to this point.
Urlacher-disagree
Vick- agree IF this poll was completed prior to the last 2 games where he finally started to look like a passing QB.
Manning Bros- disagree mostly unless players are trying to say they're not afraid of Peyton because of his postseason history-and that's if you buy in that the teams' losses are only Peyton's fault-and I don't
Keyshawn Johnson-I agree-though I do wonder if the players picked him because they hate him and his mouth?
Warren Sapp- totally agree-in fact I feel he should have been alot higher-replacing those I disagreed with
Woodson Totally agree, like Sapp, I feel he should be higher
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on November 1, 2006, 03:07 PM
Week 9 TV games

CBS Doubleheader
Game 1
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/09-CBS-E.gif)

Game 2
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/09-CBS-L.gif)

Fox single game
(http://www.gribblenation.net/nflmaps/09-FOX.gif)

Of course, don't forget the Sunday Night Game - Colts at Patriots ;D

And one more thing, CBS really needs to switch to HD for all their games. It sucks to watch games in standard def after you've been used to HD.  Luckily every game I've gotten this year has been in HD and I hope it stays that way.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 1, 2006, 03:37 PM
Yes, you remembered it correctly..I thought about it too. There is something to your renaming of it as well. When was this poll completed?

about TO-- I would agree here solely based on his lower touchdowns this year to this point.


You and I are gonna argue about this to the end.  But, I still gotta disagree with you there.  Only 3 players in all of the NFL have more receiving touchdowns than Terrell Owens.  That is Torry Holt (7), Darrell Jackson (6) and Marques Colston (6).  The season is still young, and if at the halfway point you are tied for 4th in the NFL among wide receivers in scores, well, you're doing pretty well.  Owens could easily be in the lead by Week 10.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jeff on November 1, 2006, 03:54 PM
I think TO is a self-centered loudmouth and often the cause of many team distractions, but as a Wide Receiver on the football field, he definitely isn't overrated.

When he is healthy and focused, he can be one of the most dangerous receivers out there.  Same goes for Randy Moss.  I think they suffer from distractions (self-caused by ego), but they are still great receivers.

When I think over-rated, I tend to think about guys like Rick Mirer or Ryan Leaf.  Those guys were overrated...  :P
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on November 1, 2006, 04:26 PM
One thing's for sure - Urlacher is one of the hardest working players in the league.  Remember Monday's game from a few weeks back?


The guy plays every down like it's his last.

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 1, 2006, 08:15 PM
agreed ..Urlacher doesn't need to be in there, TO however to me, from what I know...isn't putting up TO-like touchdown numbers at this point in the season-I don't care about injury excuses either-- guys with a super workout regimen aren't supposed to be injured all the time right(ala Jerry Rice)? There should be no one tied with him or above him at this point..oh well I guess I just disagree with you guys here   :-\.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on November 1, 2006, 10:31 PM
In TO's defense, he really hasn't had the best QB situation so far this season.  To score TDs, a receiver needs a QB to get him the ball.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 2, 2006, 10:45 AM
According to him though, his last 2 QB's weren't good enough to do that to his liking(ala Keyshawn Johson?)--which is really BS if you look at those QB's and ratings/abilities/stats those years ::). I get fed up with all the wide-open critical drops he does throughout his years in the league..it's one thing I notice from what I consider 'elite' receivers over the last 9 years don't do..they don't drop the ball when they're wide open because they look to make a play too soon. That something great players have to shake off in their early years..I got to watch TO many years in San Fran--was always crying about not getting the ball enough (even though often he was thrown to more than 50% of the time in games) then they would throw him an easy one and he would look for a play and drop it ::).

Then TO cries about a QB not having a strong enough arm..ect. These complaints don't happen soon or early but they do come eventually. This is my argument for why there is no matching permanent fit for TO. Eventually he's gonna piss the relationship away. I noticed him walking to the sideline on one of Jones' 4th quarter TDs (he didn't congratulate him either) and TO's face looked plain...not smiling like when your team is up by alot(gonna win) and just scored. Just give him the damn ball already ::) :'(.

the DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Broem on November 5, 2006, 05:04 PM
I about threw up watching  the Bears play today.  Yuck.  I don't really care that they lost to the Dolphins but I hate seeing them turn the ball over 6 times.  I did not really think they could do that again like they did in AZ.  But they did and that's 2 out of the last 3 games.  Sigh.  I'm kind of falling off the Super Bowl mentality and just hope they make the playoffs  ???
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 5, 2006, 07:15 PM
Today was quite tasty!

First, my fav team wins-who cares how ugly, a W is a W in this league. --GO NINERS

Second my most hated NFL team lost... And all the announcers  and analysts could mention was how TO blew it by dropping a TD/critical play....again. On the postgame show I think Bradshaw had said TO leads the league(WRs) in passes dropped--he might be right. Actually, they were all talking **** about TO( and I don't think they were jealous) about his stupid flag after his sleeping TD dance..ect. I guess someone forgot to tell TO that the game was still on/work wasn't over and not time to go to sleep yet ;D
I wonder if anything will come of him yelling at Parcells on the sideline...one can hope ::).
Yea! Compokes lose!

The Bears lost the way they have been winning; by turnovers setting up scores. It was kind of weird to hear the anouncement of the game being switched(you usually only hear that this year when the Bears are blowing out their opponent/not the other way around :-\

Now, just waiting for what I expect to be an awesome Sun. night matchup...we'll see!

The DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 5, 2006, 11:42 PM
On the Sunday night game...

A good showing..I felt the Colts would win, that the game would be within a TD.

What I never expected....

TB to throw 4 pics :o
A. Vinatierri to miss 2 kicks..was he paid off? He sure didn't look like the greatest kicker in the league out there tonite ::).
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on November 6, 2006, 02:54 AM
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but I hate seeing them turn the ball over 6 times.

Boy...  Don't I know THAT feeling this year.  ::)

The Steelers have outplayed most of their opponents this year, and I believe the same could be said for today's game pretty much, but they hand the win over to them by handing them the ball quite literally...  And it's just frustrating beyond belief.  Granted though, at least this week more than Ben gave the ball to the Broncos...  Seemed like a real team effort to just give the W to someone else this week.  I guess that at least shows teamwork going on, on some totally screwed up level.

Oh and if I see Cowher acting like an indignant prick again on TV, I might just bail on watching the rest of the season (not likely, but I'm pissed).  The man has no right to be bitchy when he's asked really legitimate questions about why they eat so much ass this year.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 6, 2006, 10:52 AM
Jesse, how do you feel about them throwing in the rest of the season for a good draft?
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on November 6, 2006, 03:52 PM
I about threw up watching the Bears play today. Yuck. I don't really care that they lost to the Dolphins but I hate seeing them turn the ball over 6 times. I did not really think they could do that again like they did in AZ. But they did and that's 2 out of the last 3 games. Sigh. I'm kind of falling off the Super Bowl mentality and just hope they make the playoffs ???

What's the story with the Bears?  Losing to Miami and almost to Arizona? 

All of Miami's points (all 28 of 'em) were off of Chicago turnovers. 

Their offense is overrated - not Urlacher.  Time for a new QB.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 6, 2006, 04:03 PM
All of Miami's points (all 28 of 'em) were off of Chicago turnovers.


It's a taste of their own medicine actually....I looked at alot of Chicago's blowout wins and most of their points came off turnovers created by the D. This time a team reversed fortune on them for once. I agree though..that QB throwing off his back leg didn't  look good.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on November 6, 2006, 04:06 PM
Time to find a new favorite team!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on November 6, 2006, 10:15 PM
Hmmm, I don't know what the plan is...  I guess we'll see how they flub it up or step it up, but at this point I'm focused on hockey and football's just getting a passing glance from me...  I don't mind the losses, honestly.  I of course hate to see them lose but at the end of the day I realize I spent up all my nerves last season and they went to the superbowl and won it...  I'm not going to worry about it now. :)  Even if they pull off some miracle and manage wins the rest of the way, I really don't even care. 

The Pens are doing well, the Steelers suck.  I guess we just can't have two teams going well at one time around here. :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 7, 2006, 10:57 AM
Time to find a new favorite team!

Just curious....Are you thinking out loud to yourself? I thought you didn't have a favorite team initially? So, are you finding a new favorite team or an initial favorite team? Well, who did you pick for a team?


Hmmm, I don't know what the plan is... I guess we'll see how they flub it up or step it up, but at this point I'm focused on hockey and football's just getting a passing glance from me... I don't mind the losses, honestly. I of course hate to see them lose but at the end of the day I realize I spent up all my nerves last season and they went to the superbowl and won it... I'm not going to worry about it now. :) Even if they pull off some miracle and manage wins the rest of the way, I really don't even care.

I like your attitude towards it, that's a good eway to look at it..GJ Jesse!


On the Mon night game--

It really SUCKED, on further review- the raiders SUCK STILL.
Seeing that the Raiders have failed to score in their last 2 Mon night games and how bad they suck...I just wonder..since their mystique is gone, how do they keep getting Mon football berths? I thought teams were awarded Mon football berths by them being good teams or special storylines, division rivalries, brother vs brother ect. I saw no story or excitement for this game whatsoever..and rightfully(thankfully?) so it sucked. Perhaps if enough Monday night games are sucking this year and they start losing ratings then maybe the decision making process for picking teams to play in it will change? That would be nice from my point of view, literally.

I don't buy into the argument that the Raiders have alot of fans either and that teams with alot of fan following continue to get Mon night berths regardless of how bad they suck. My team has alot of nationwide fans AND they suck but no berths?! That excuse falls into the doesn't-follow-fallacy so I don't buy it. I think the football schedulers should..choose more wisely.

THE DS   
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Ryan on November 7, 2006, 03:48 PM
I thought teams were awarded Mon football berths by them being good teams or special storylines, division rivalries, brother vs brother ect. I saw no story or excitement for this game whatsoever..and rightfully(thankfully?) so it sucked.

Well they were former division rivals, but I think it is fair to say that no longer really matters. Most of the players from those days are gone, so any real rivalry between the two has gone out the window.

I do rather enjoy seeing the Raiders suck so much though. :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 7, 2006, 04:40 PM
I have to admit ...years ago I actually liked them...the Plunkett, Stabler years..then, they moved to LA developed more of a attitude and I hated them ever since..EVEN when they moved back to the bay area. It was easier for me When they moved to LA(I started disliking them) since I was young and was occasionally finding it difficult to follow both San Fran
AND Oakland.

OPINION

Have to admit though LA area fans for football overall have to suck (for not doing more to keep their teams/owners here and happy). There appears to be more Raiders fan following down here than anywhere I've been in the US. Maybe I'm missing something..but where were all their voices when Al Davis asked for their support?! Why was there so much silence by the city when Al decided to take his team back north? Or, more legitimately a Q..how can a metro area of multimillions in population suck so bad as to not have(or keep ::)) even 1 NFL team?

I guess what I think is a joke is all the Rams/Raiders fans left behind here that didn't dump there teams when they left. I guess I just don't understand it. I CAN get staying by your original hometown team and continuing to be said fan(me) wherever you move but not when a team does-- don't get that at all especially over the years when all the players, coaches have gone..there's no continuity except maybe an owner that took 'your' team away from you. At least
a team that never moved is still THERE and you have something; never had to change a city name or anything like that.

*and I don't consider anybody who discovers a new team to be a 'bandwagoner' if their prior team moved away either.

OPINION 

The DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on November 8, 2006, 08:44 AM
Week 10 maps

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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Ryan on November 9, 2006, 07:25 PM
It appears that the San Fransicso 49ers are being relocated, granted it is only to Santa Clara, but they have been moved nevertheless.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 10, 2006, 04:10 AM
It's also several years away ::)

..and only a matter of minutes down the freeway

On a radio show today they talked about keeping their name San Francisco still as well.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on November 10, 2006, 07:43 AM

On a radio show today they talked about keeping their name San Francisco still as well.

Nah, it'll be The San Francisco 49ers of Santa Clara.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 10, 2006, 12:47 PM
 :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 12, 2006, 06:12 PM
Alright Niners..we actually have a winning streak this season  ;D!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on November 13, 2006, 01:47 AM
Steelers won, Pens are on a skid...  I swear we're not allowed by god or someone to have 2 winning teams in this city at the same time.  It's insane.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Broem on November 15, 2006, 02:15 PM
I was pretty happy with the Bears win on Sunday against the Giants.  They definitely have the inside track to homefield advantage.  That is unless they start losing to teams like the Jets and Packers.  Which would not suprise me really.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on November 15, 2006, 02:38 PM
Week 11 maps

CBS Doubleheader
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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on November 15, 2006, 03:11 PM
I can't remember where my Fox feed comes from, LOL.  I should probably want to see the Viqueens, but I have two running backs from fantasy in that Detroit-Arizona game.  Even then I've got a nagging feeling it's a New York feed. 

To be honest, I can't even remember where the CBS feed comes from, Minneapolis or Detroit.  I guess it doesn't matter for the second game. ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jeff on November 15, 2006, 03:21 PM
The local CBS Sports guy (Mark Rosen) was on our local sports radio channel this AM talking up the SD/Denver game they had scheduled for CBS on Sunday afternoon and how he was looking forward to it...  I guess he didn't get "flex-schedule" memo last week.  :-X

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 19, 2006, 12:22 PM
It just occured to me here in Week 11 that I live in NY, and just with the combination of CBS, NBC, FOX and ESPN I have seen all but 1 Cowboys game.

Pretty nifty for me as a Terrell Owens fan.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on November 19, 2006, 04:08 PM
Pittsburgh can consider itself lucky this week :o  What an end.  I'd picked Cleveland for the upset. :-\
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2006, 01:03 AM
Come on though, you have to give credit to the Steelers for playing fan-frickin'-tastic Defense all day, and I think calling it luck is shorting Roethlisberger for rebounding in the 2nd half after giving the f'n ball up again...  Not all the gives were his fault too, but it was frustrating beyond belief for me to see them dig a hole like that on turnovers.

I think the Steelers played a great game in the 2nd half though and earned the win...  Cleveland just didn't put together the gives they got like they needed to, and the Steelers got their **** together for the win.  It was a freakin' trainwreck to watch as a Steelers fan though and the kind of game you yell at an inanimate object over.  Turnovers once again almost handed a game to another team like we've done all year.  Statistically the Steelers have dominated some of the games they've been in but handed it to the other guys on turnovers.  It's been painful to say the least.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 21, 2006, 01:10 AM
Come on though, you have to give credit to the Steelers for playing fan-frickin'-tastic Defense all day, and I think calling it luck is shorting Roethlisberger for rebounding in the 2nd half after giving the f'n ball up again...  Not all the gives were his fault too, but it was frustrating beyond belief for me to see them dig a hole like that on turnovers.

I think the Steelers played a great game in the 2nd half though and earned the win...  Cleveland just didn't put together the gives they got like they needed to, and the Steelers got their **** together for the win.  It was a freakin' trainwreck to watch as a Steelers fan though and the kind of game you yell at an inanimate object over.  Turnovers once again almost handed a game to another team like we've done all year.  Statistically the Steelers have dominated some of the games they've been in but handed it to the other guys on turnovers.  It's been painful to say the least.

I'll give you Eli for Ben straight up!   :D
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2006, 07:02 AM
I saw you Giants folks were feeling our pain down here.  Nothing like interceptions to make you randomly swear at your television like it made a difference...   :'(
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 21, 2006, 10:15 AM
I saw you Giants folks were feeling our pain down here.  Nothing like interceptions to make you randomly swear at your television like it made a difference...   :'(

Oh if it were just random swearing, my throat wouldn't feel this way today.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on November 27, 2006, 09:52 AM
****** Grossman.  He's been accountable for what, 90% of the Bear's turnovers this year?

The Bears have NO chance of winning a Super Bowl (or even making it past the playoffs) with Grossman at the helm.

If the Bears had a decent QB, there'd be no stopping them.  Why Lovie sticks with this guy is beyond me...
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 27, 2006, 01:30 PM
****** Grossman.  He's been accountable for what, 90% of the Bear's turnovers this year?

The Bears have NO chance of winning a Super Bowl (or even making it past the playoffs) with Grossman at the helm.


Well, you're gonna make the playoffs.  No doubt.

And I feel your pain.  Eli Manning anyone?  At least your Bears are gonna make it, my Giants aren't going to get past the Cowboys with Manning throwing 4th quarter interceptions up by 21 points.  Here's an idea that works, put the ******* ball in Brandon Jacob's hands and run out the clock.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on November 27, 2006, 07:45 PM
Yeah, you could be in the Steelers camp right now. :) A-friggin'-trocious.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on November 30, 2006, 08:28 AM
Week 13 maps

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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on December 4, 2006, 09:20 AM
Well, Grossman does it again.  Three interceptions and 34 yards, once again the defense and STU win the game for the Bears (scoring 16 of the 23 points).
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on December 6, 2006, 11:13 AM
Week 14 maps

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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2006, 01:50 AM
Pitt game tonight was fantastic...   ;D  Nothing makes a Steelers fan smile more than watching the Mistake by the Lake go home with a loss...  and this one was especially sweet because it evened the all-time series with the Brownies, plus it also sent the loud-mouths home after they bitched and moaned that they should've won our last meeting...  Guess not! :)

Even if we lost every other game this season, beating the Browns is just something I ask for every time.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 10, 2006, 10:44 PM
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By Jokabofe « Reply #60 on: November 7, 2005, 12:04 AM » 

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You know what makes me laugh? The friggin' media is sucking Ladanian Tomlinson's dick so hard right now... but I don't think he's the best RB in the game. They are making a big deal out of the fact that he has 15 TD's after his 4 today. Big deal. Shaun Alexander has 14, just 1 less. And he's got more rushing yards. He plays on the NFL's #1 offense. And he's playing on a team that's 6-2 and in first place. Why does he always get ignored? What makes Tomlinson so much better? Because he throws a few TD passes? Guess what? That's what the QB is for.

Debate over.  Tomlinson is the single season TD king.

And Larry Johnson is better than Alexander too.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on December 10, 2006, 10:50 PM
I wouldn't say that. If Priest Holmes was healthy he'd be starting ahead of Larry if that says anything...he plays in an awesome system with an awesome O-line

I still think Shaun is #2, this year is a wash but watch out next year
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on December 10, 2006, 11:06 PM
LDT's numbers this year are just sick.  What is even more impressive is that he's scored 26 of his 29 TDs over the last 9 games!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on December 13, 2006, 09:53 AM
Have I ever told you guys how much I love Rex Grossman?

 ;)

How about Devin Hester?  Man, that guy is fast!

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on December 13, 2006, 10:12 AM
How about Devin Hester?  Man, that guy is fast!



Damn right he is.  I think he should get serious consideration for Rookie of the Year.  With all due respect to Vince Young, has any other rookie had as big of an impact on his team's success as Hester?

So ... the Bears have clinched a first round bye, and seeing that their next three opponents have a combined 9 wins, they should be able to win out.  The NFC Playoffs will go through the Windy City.  Say what you want to about Grossman and how the Bears are vulnerable, but I wouldn't want to play against that defense in Chicago in the middle of winter.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on December 14, 2006, 01:07 PM
Week 15 maps

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I think this is the first non-HD Pats game this year.  Doesn't matter much to me as I'm going to the game this weekend  ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 14, 2006, 01:41 PM
Oakland residents don't even get to see their team on TV yet again
I've seen that many times before; pathetic
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 19, 2006, 05:05 PM
Terrell Owens spit away his pro bowl shot? Such an awesome receiver didn't make it :P? I'm not surprised in the least (and..update: voters are not jealous of him, in the least-being on 'America's team' alone should have generated enough votes..and it didn't= saying alot) ::).

I do think Larry Allen got snubbed for being a starter though, even missing the games he did, he STILL should be starting ..oh well, I guess if he spit on somebody while voting was being undertaken he wouldn't have even been selected as an alternate even.

DS   
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 19, 2006, 07:50 PM
Terrell Owens spit away his pro bowl shot? Such an awesome receiver didn't make it :P?
DS   

Terrell Owens leads the National Football League in receiving touchdowns, and has already gone over 1,000 yards with 2 games left to go.

Did he deserve to go to the Pro Bowl?  Yup, #1 in receiver TDs with 1,000+ yds to boot.

If you're going by the numbers, you have no argument Slothus.

Furthermore, if you're not simply evaluating a player's Pro Bowl merit based on their performance and numbers, it's more than a little hypocritical for Shawne Merriman to be elected to the Pro Bowl team and not TO, with Merriman serving a 4 game suspension for injecting himself with steroids that are both illegal in the United States of America as well as the National Football League.

Anyhow, same bull**** as always with these All Star Game/Pro Bowl selections.  Happens every year.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 19, 2006, 07:51 PM
Oakland residents don't even get to see their team on TV yet again
I've seen that many times before; pathetic

The blank screen was equally exciting, sad as that may be.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on December 20, 2006, 10:31 AM
Week 16 maps

CBS Doubleheader
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Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 20, 2006, 10:37 AM
Terrell Owens spit away his pro bowl shot? Such an awesome receiver didn't make it :P?
DS   

Terrell Owens leads the National Football League in receiving touchdowns, and has already gone over 1,000 yards with 2 games left to go.

Did he deserve to go to the Pro Bowl?  Yup, #1 in receiver TDs with 1,000+ yds to boot.

If you're going by the numbers, you have no argument Slothus.

I'm not denying his 'numbers' and I'm glad you put the IF in there Dress...maybe you should reread my post to see the sarcasm.
I'm glad he didn't make it. He wasn't voted in because he is an idiot-it's that simple-and enough other folks didn't want to see him in there either. Yes, I understand the annual ridiculousness of pro bowl selections..I don't need a reminder of that..in this case though I'm pleased by the result on TO's part. This year's 'gaffe' truly was one of the most largest I can remember in recent memory further illustrating how silly the voting results are...I mean, even RIVERS and S.SMITH made it in ?!?

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on January 2, 2007, 05:15 PM
Even as a disappointed Steelers fan, the season couldn't have ended better than it did given the circumstances.  Two years in a row and screwing up the Bengal's season...  That's fun.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on January 2, 2007, 07:53 PM
I'm no fan of the Colts, but man they got the worst possible match up for them in the first round.  Larry Johnson is going to run all over them.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 2, 2007, 10:23 PM
I'm no fan of the Colts, but man they got the worst possible match up for them in the first round.  Larry Johnson is going to run all over them.

He's going to start carrying the ball when he gets off the team bus.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: JayDouble on January 4, 2007, 08:55 PM
Cowher expected to resign at news conference Friday (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AqWR1U0pQ3r.MFGUsJwZtxg5nYcB?slug=ap-steelers-cowhersdecision&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on January 4, 2007, 09:05 PM
Yeah, the end of an era for sure but I think the Steelers wouldn't have won the super bowl last year without Ken Whisenhunt anyway so I'm expecting him to take over personally...  I think he's the top pick right now, but you never know. 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jayson on January 5, 2007, 02:24 PM
Cowher expected to resign at news conference Friday (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AqWR1U0pQ3r.MFGUsJwZtxg5nYcB?slug=ap-steelers-cowhersdecision&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Yep...  he done.

Cowher resigns after 15 years (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16430040/from/RS.3/)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2007, 02:32 AM
I think Grimm's gonna be gone too and he's really a great O-Line coach given what he was putting together every year here, even this year when things were bleak at times.  The guy I think is gonna take over is Whisenhunt...  Even looks like a young Cowher. :)

There's been a lot of speculation about why he's wanting to leave, considering he grew up in Pittsburgh and everything...  He lived in a nice community out sorta my way, very upper scale (of course, what else would he do I guess?), and a lot of people have the same theory that it was his wife's pressure actually to leave the city...  I agree with that.   Pittsburgh's a town that, if you can't deal with the atmosphere around here, you can't be happy living here...  They were separated for a time, and then when they were back together it seemed like that was when the whole negotiation on extensions and things were dead in the water...  Then of course the house down South, and his family up and moving for the Carolina's while he was here coaching the Steelers...  Seems like he wants to coach still in the NFL, and his relationship with the Steelers is outstanding by all accounts too, so I can't see any reason to leave except maybe some pressure to get out of this town...

If you can't take ****** ugly winters, and a smaller city atmosphere, it's a tough place to live I guess.  I dunno, that's just speculation of course.  If Whisenhunt's the coach, I'd be happy considering if it weren't for him I don't think they would've won the Super Bowl last season.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 6, 2007, 08:53 AM
Might as well take a crack at Round 1 here:

Chiefs over Colts

Cowboys over Seahawks

Patriots over Jets

Giants over Eagles

 :)

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on January 6, 2007, 01:17 PM
Might as well take a crack at Round 1 here:

Chiefs over Colts

Cowboys over Seahawks

Patriots over Jets

Giants over Eagles

 :)





Chiefs over Colts

Seahawks over Cowboys

Patriots over Jets

Eagles over Giants
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on January 6, 2007, 01:29 PM

Chiefs over Colts

Seahawks over Cowboys

Patriots over Jets

Eagles over Giants

Bingo.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on January 6, 2007, 03:44 PM
Colts
Patriots
Eagles
Cowboys
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on January 6, 2007, 04:52 PM
5 minutes into the Indy game I'm changing my mind.  The Colts look like they came to shut everyone up about their run defense.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 6, 2007, 07:08 PM
Well, that's a real hoot.  One of the worst run defenses stops one of the top running backs.

This is why I don't bet money.

EDIT:  Game over.  Chiefs are done.  Larry Johnson: 13 carries for 32 yards  :o  That was about the least likely thing that could have happened.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on January 6, 2007, 08:36 PM
Why?  Road teams in Domes in the Playoffs rarely win.  Indy has been there the last 5-6 years and probably knows how to prepare a little better than the Chiefs did...

Peyton Manning though...what the **** happens to him in the playoffs?  Wow, he just sucks ass.  Should be fun watching him play the Ravens D ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 6, 2007, 08:50 PM
Why? 

Because they haven't been able to stop an opposing team's running back all year.  The Colts gave up an average of 5 yards per carry which I believe was worst in the league or close to it.  The Colts made Ron Dayne and Travis Henry look like LT.

Everyone thought LJ was going to run wild.  That's why it was an odd outcome.  Even if the Colts were to win, I'd still have expected him to have 150 yards and 2 scores.  Apparently Dungy and his team figured out how to stop a running back just in time.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on January 6, 2007, 09:03 PM
Yeah I guess...but again, playoffs are totally different than regular season.  Its not like the D has been horrible for years and years, they have actually been decent the past few years.  What has killed them the past 2-3 years has been Manning...that is what I'd be worried about right now (until I play LT)

I was hoping they'd lose though, because Dungy is being whispered as a possible Gophers coach
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 6, 2007, 09:18 PM
Well, you picked the right team.  However you figured it out, or even if it was dumb luck, you pegged it.  The Colts had the ball for almost 3 quarters to the Chiefs one quarter, so all in all the whole Chiefs offense collapsed with all of their 3 'n' outs.  LJ only got 13 carries as opposed to his usual 30+ (set a NFL record this year with season carries).  In a vacuum, had LJ gotten his 30 carries, it may have been a different outcome.  But Green couldn't keep his squad on the field.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on January 6, 2007, 10:20 PM
The Colts' run defense wasn't just bad ... they were historically bad.  They gave up an average of 177 yards per game (or something close to that) on the ground.  Not once this year did they hold the opposing team to under 100 yards rushing, and I believe that the Jaguars rushed for 384 yards against them the last time they played.  So ... they play against the second-best back in the league, and they hold him to 32 yards rushing, and the team to 44 yards.  Who would've thunk it?  I have to agree with Matt that it's shocking as all hell the way they stopped LJ.  Is it that shocking that the Colts won?  Not really ... but the way they went about doing it completely blew me away.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 6, 2007, 10:27 PM
Yup, everything Neal said, plus if I see that Wendy's commercial with the guy eating the microscopic $2.99 value meal one more time I'm going to rip my ******* hair out.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on January 6, 2007, 10:33 PM
Yup, everything Neal said, plus if I see that Wendy's commercial with the guy eating the microscopic $2.99 value meal one more time I'm going to rip my ******* hair out.

It's no worse than the "this is our country" commercials for Chevy.  Is it possible to have one ******* commercial break during an NFL game without that?  Please?  Come on ... I don't ask for much .....
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 6, 2007, 10:34 PM
Oh yeah.  The new Superbowl commercials will be most welcome...
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 6, 2007, 11:42 PM
Whoa boy.  Romo won't be forgetting that fumbled snap anytime soon.  Watching Gramatica skip through that fumbled hold and then try to block someone like 3 times his size while Romo tried to scamper off with the rock was somewhat amusing though.

Today, zero predictions right.  Tomorrow, twice as many! ( 0 x 2 =  ;) )
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on January 7, 2007, 02:45 AM
Last year to gear up for the COlts the Steelers practiced in their practice facility with giant speakers blaring music.  You could hear it pretty well outside the building actually if you were driving by...  It is definitely something you have to consider and the Steelers had some experience with it in the regular season that they carried over into their prep for the Colts then.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 7, 2007, 05:38 PM
Peyton Manning though...what the **** happens to him in the playoffs?  Wow, he just sucks ass.  Should be fun watching him play the Ravens D ::)

Yeah, that should be fun..considering the colts won the last three meetings..against ravens teams with similar defenses...and the colts had their same QB and offense basically.

On that note, surprises from day one is why I still watch pro football. Was delighted to see the colts stuff the run then have a huge game on the ground themselves- that's all players need -to be sick of hearing being downplayed that their defense sucks against the run..ect..was fun to see how they responded, how embarassing for Larry, I loved it.

I also relished TO's only 2 catches too, that was a stuff as well. Especially liked his critical drop of a third down pass right in his hands-sums up the year for that jerk--as I've said before he's dropped passes all along in his year..What?, So this year the media blames his finger?Pfft ::). As many times as Dallas passed to him this year could  just imagine how many (Ooohh) TD's he could have scored without the drops ::). I noticed TO jawing at his QB(no surprise) to not put so much air under the ball after a lobbed pass by Romo to TO was caught up to and knocked away by a defender on another third down attempt.

Anyway, I figured the Dallas/Seattle game would be close considering the 2 teams struggles lately-just glad Dallas blew it since I hate them ;D-trust it made my day. I'll be shocked if Tuna AND TO are on Dallas next year, we'll see. While I have no love loss for seattle as well...I will now be rooting against them too.

I was overall impressed by my teams' year. No, they didn't make the playoffs but they made the division leaders look like chumps and won more games than the prior two years combined :). While they lost twice to the lowly Cardinals the last 2 years, the cardinals fired they're coach so we should be ready for them next year now.

To pick who I want in the super bowl I want New Orleans in and anyone but San Diego in--though it would be nice to watch a classic Marty blunder in the Superbowl
and lose, that would be fun.

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 8, 2007, 12:22 AM
Owens latest controversy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OW-F0cr88Q)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on January 8, 2007, 12:27 AM
Whoa boy.  Romo won't be forgetting that fumbled snap anytime soon.  Watching Gramatica skip through that fumbled hold and then try to block someone like 3 times his size while Romo tried to scamper off with the rock was somewhat amusing though.

Today, zero predictions right.  Tomorrow, twice as many! ( 0 x 2 =  ;) )

3.5 out of 4 for me.

(I'm claiming half a point for changing my Colts pick 4 minutes into the first quarter). :)

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on January 8, 2007, 01:40 PM
Is it too early to make predictions for next weekend?

If not, here are my picks:

Ravens
Eagles
Bears (only out of loyalty) (Grossman will start, Griese will play 2nd half)   :P
Chargers

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 8, 2007, 02:21 PM
Is it too early to make predictions for next weekend?

If not, here are my picks:

Ravens
Eagles
Bears (only out of loyalty) (Grossman will start, Griese will play 2nd half)   :P
Chargers



Wow, you think grossman's on a short leash too?

mine--

Saints
Bears--really the Grossman factor makes it close in my mind-but I'll go with the Bears defense/ST advantage
Colts--will it be 4 in a row over Ravens--it's my take(Ravens look good-but, until they beat Colts it's my pick)
Chargers

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on January 8, 2007, 02:51 PM
Oh hell, I'll play along.  Unless I get all four games wrong, I won't fare any worse than Matt did last week.
 ;D

Bears over Seahawks
Saints over Eagles
Chargers over Patriots
Colts over Ravens
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on January 8, 2007, 03:17 PM
Ravens
Chargers
Saints

That Bears game scares me...I'll pick the Seahawks in an upset :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 8, 2007, 03:22 PM
Honestly, I felt both the NFC games were a tough pick(the eagles have been hot) but I had to pick nonetheless.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on January 8, 2007, 03:46 PM
Ravens
Bears
Saints
Pats (total homer pick)

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 8, 2007, 10:34 PM
Well, I'm sure there will be an upset, and I don't know which game it's going to be, so I gotta pick the 4 bye week teams:

Chargers
Ravens
Saints
Bears
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on January 8, 2007, 10:51 PM
Something to consider on the Ravens Jon, they really still manhandled the Steelers in their last game, and the Steelers were playing as well as any team at that point.  Looking past the lack of a playoff run, they were really playing great for their last games and the Ravens still tore them up so I think you're underestimating them from my personal perspective.  I'm definitely going with the Ravens this week.

I'm picking:

SD
Philly
Chicago
Baltimore

I'm horrible at this though, so I maybe just jinxed everyone... 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on January 8, 2007, 11:27 PM
What the hell, this should be an o-fer:

Seahawks
Saints
Chargers
Colts
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 8, 2007, 11:36 PM
Something to consider on the Ravens Jon, they really still manhandled the Steelers in their last game, and the Steelers were playing as well as any team at that point.  Looking past the lack of a playoff run, they were really playing great for their last games and the Ravens still tore them up so I think you're underestimating them from my personal perspective.  I'm definitely going with the Ravens this week.

I agree with you Jesse and I feel I'm not underestimating them, just feel that I have to pick a team and until the ravens beat them I'll go with the colts. Two things making it interesting...

-If manning has another game like the last one they're out of the playoffs
-The ravens are this far for a reason and, they're good; certainly McNair makes them
  better a team than in the past VS Colts too.

The last year I played 'Fantasy playoffs' I had McNair on my team and he made it to the super bowl..I only finished second out of 16 teams though and won a little more than my money back :-\
DS
 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 9, 2007, 12:33 AM
I've been seeing Scott and Slothus here talking about how bad Manning was, but I feel compelled to remind you guys that Peyton was 30 for 38 passing (79%) 268 yards and a TD.  He did throw 3 INTs.  That's rare, and his team still killed the Chiefs.  I hardly think completing 30 passes for almost 300 yards qualifies as such a terrible performance.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on January 9, 2007, 12:56 AM
Tell that to the Romo haters. ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on January 9, 2007, 08:42 AM
I've been seeing Scott and Slothus here talking about how bad Manning was, but I feel compelled to remind you guys that Peyton was 30 for 38 passing (79%) 268 yards and a TD.  He did throw 3 INTs.  That's rare, and his team still killed the Chiefs.  I hardly think completing 30 passes for almost 300 yards qualifies as such a terrible performance.

I was about to say the same thing.  If you take the interceptions out, his stats were pretty damn good.  I realize that you can't just ignore the interceptions, but seeing that they really didn't cost the team anything (except perhaps more points), they weren't a huge deal.  For some reason, Ty Law OWNS Peyton Manning, and he continued to show that in the game.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 9, 2007, 10:52 AM
Yep, nobody gives a **** about the INT's because nothing happened out of them. Which is why it's not adviseable against the higher echelon teams--they're not as likely to be forcing 3 INTs AND resulting in nothing.

Well aware of the comp. percentage and yards--but I don't look at the 'IF' factor ...like 'IF he didn't throw the INT's'...well he did, and you just can't do that to a better team and expect to get away with it is my point is all. It was a tough pick but I did pick the Colts mind you as did many others..it seems like the matchup with the most division in picks.

I see this alot..the 'IF' factor. I could imagine how this factor could be worth a **** if we could use them.
IF the cardinals didn't have all those late fumbles against the Bears...
IF Romo didn't fumble...
IF so and so wasn't hurt and then they played each other...
IF Owens didn't hurt his finger...
IF Seattle RB Alexander didn't get hurt early for FF this year... ::)

ect ect.

So then, who agrees with me that the Colts would make it a lot harder for themselves to win if they threw 3 INT's against any of the teams left in the playoffs minus the nfc of course ? Which was my statement earlier said a different way ;)

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 9, 2007, 11:46 AM
Yep, nobody gives a **** about the INT's because nothing happened out of them. Which is why it's not adviseable against the higher echelon teams--they're not as likely to be forcing 3 INTs AND resulting in nothing.

Well aware of the comp. percentage and yards--but I don't look at the 'IF' factor ...like 'IF he didn't throw the INT's'...well he did, and you just can't do that to a better team and expect to get away with it is my point is all. It was a tough pick but I did pick the Colts mind you as did many others..it seems like the matchup with the most division in picks.

I see this alot..the 'IF' factor. I could imagine how this factor could be worth a **** if we could use them.
IF the cardinals didn't have all those late fumbles against the Bears...
IF Romo didn't fumble...
IF so and so wasn't hurt and then they played each other...
IF Owens didn't hurt his finger...
IF Seattle RB Alexander didn't get hurt early for FF this year... ::)

ect ect.


etc. etc.



So then, who agrees with me that the Colts would make it a lot harder for themselves to win if they threw 3 INT's against any of the teams left in the playoffs minus the nfc of course ? Which was my statement earlier said a different way ;)

DS

Of course it would be harder for the Colts if Manning threw 3 INTs against the Ravens.  But that last game against the Chiefs was the outlier, for some reason Ty Law just happens to own Peyton Manning and intercepted him twice in the same game.  Ty Law has a history of this against Manning in particular.  However, Manning threw a total of 9 interceptions in 16 games all year.  He is the best quarterback in football right now for sure.  But obviously if you throw 3 interceptions against any team in the playoffs, especially as you get deeper into the rounds, you're probably gonna lose.  Is Manning gonna throw 3 INTs again?  Probably not.  Does that mean the Colts are going to win the Super Bowl?  No, they'll probably lose or not make it that far in some other fashion.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 9, 2007, 03:19 PM
Of course it would be harder for the Colts if Manning threw 3 INTs against the Ravens.  But that last game against the Chiefs was the outlier, for some reason Ty Law just happens to own Peyton Manning and intercepted him twice in the same game.  Ty Law has a history of this against Manning in particular.  However, Manning threw a total of 9 interceptions in 16 games all year.  He is the best quarterback in football right now for sure.  But obviously if you throw 3 interceptions against any team in the playoffs, especially as you get deeper into the rounds, you're probably gonna lose.  Is Manning gonna throw 3 INTs again?  Probably not.  Does that mean the Colts are going to win the Super Bowl?  No, they'll probably lose or not make it that far in some other fashion.

Ect Ect

Yes, I agree Manning is one of the best. Like to compare him to D. Marino in that ..yeah, stats are great but SB=0.
I guess year in year out that's the only thing preventing me giving him the best title alone. Until he wins the 'big game'
to even get him to the big game or win that...I just can't crown him yet. Actually, when it comes to P. Manning alot of folks say this too...." Stats, yeah...but big game...?". So, I feel there are other factors besides stats that make a 'best' QB in my eye.   

Honestly, I don't know where the assumptions came in that I didn't think he was good. I simply mentioned if he threw another game like that(3 int's-no IFS here he threw 3!) his season is over(which is a no given statement that folks looked into too much?). Never denied he's a good QB-I even like his commercials ;).

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on January 11, 2007, 11:49 AM
-I even like his commercials ;).


You're crazy.

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 13, 2007, 07:43 PM
Yes, I got at least one pick right the first day this weekend! ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 13, 2007, 11:20 PM
Phew, Saints over Eagles..one of 2 games I was worried about of my picks.
I wonder if TO knew his supposed/accused, former 'weak-armed' QB just broke a team record for longest TD postseason pass. Even longer than Donavan could throw... :). J. Garcia threw it 55 in the air..loved it, I like watching him do well.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on January 14, 2007, 05:13 PM
SHould be a good game next week in the Saint vs Bears.  Bears are lucky to have won that game.  I hate seeing them win.  I also am annoyed by the "New America's Team" talk for the Saints.  Does anyone really cheer more for them because of the ******* hurricane?  Come on ::)  I guess I'll be rooting for the AFC team...and out of the Chargers, Pats and Colts I generally like all three.  I'll be rooting for the Colts but could care less really
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Nicklab on January 14, 2007, 05:31 PM
I like the Saints for a few reasons.  I wouldn't call them the new America's team by any stretch.  But I think that people want good things for New Orleans since things are still so messed up in NOLA as well as the rest of the Gulf region.  The storm was devastating, and if the Saints can give those people SOMETHING to keep their spirits high, then I'm all for it.

As for the team itself, I think they did some good things for themselves in the offseason.  Getting Drew Brees was big.  He's a good QB who makes the right decisions.  Deuce McAllister coming back after his ACL injury has been great.  Marques Colston is probably the best rookie WR this year.  Sean Payton has been doing really well in his first season as a head coach.  Oh, and did I mention Reggie Bush?  He got off to a slow start, but he looks like he's going to be a great pro.  So they're comparable with a lot of teams as far as their skill positions go.  But I'm still puzzled about why the Redskins were able to manhandle them.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on January 14, 2007, 06:23 PM
I wouldn't call them the new America's team by any stretch.

You might not, Nick...but the press sure has (http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2003-51,GGLD:en&q=america's%20team%20saints&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Nicklab on January 14, 2007, 07:19 PM
That's sports writers.  I have zero respect for sports writers.  Those guys are all about selling papers and finding something to write about in their columns and that's it.  It would be nice if they would actually look at just how much the Saints were overhauled during the offseason.  I think the only reason they're throwing around the America's team thing is because a number of people around the country are genuinely pulling for them after the tragedy of Hurricane Katrina and the team being displaced for a year.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on January 14, 2007, 08:04 PM
I was just glad to see Seattle lose...  Disappointed in the Colts win in one way, kind of happy on the other hand.  I was happy to see Chicago move on though and thought the game was pretty hard fought on both ends.  I was pulling for them this week ultimately...

I am almost in a mode where I don't care...  Being the pats loather that I am, I'm sitting here hoping they botch this. 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 14, 2007, 08:22 PM
Damn, 3-1 this weekend. I thought next week I would pick against Marty..at least until he wins...I guess it should have been earlier :(.

The San Diego..'not so super' Chargers...a regular season team only as long as Marty is coach? I love it.

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Broem on January 14, 2007, 10:13 PM
SHould be a good game next week in the Saint vs Bears.  Bears are lucky to have won that game.  I hate seeing them win.  I also am annoyed by the "New America's Team" talk for the Saints.  Does anyone really cheer more for them because of the ******* hurricane?  Come on ::)  I guess I'll be rooting for the AFC team...and out of the Chargers, Pats and Colts I generally like all three.  I'll be rooting for the Colts but could care less really

Actually I kind of thought Seatle was lucky to get that game into OT.  The Bears have the worst offensive coordinator I swear.  They pass when they should run most of the time.  If Berrian would have caught that pass at the 5 and ran it in there would be no problems.  Moose could not catch a ball right at him either.  Plus, Hester had his punt return TD called back for that block in the back.  Grossman of course let the Seahawks right back into the game with his lame fumble in the first half.  I just thought the Bears outplayed Seatle for most of the game and was kind of surprised the Bears just did not blow them away at some point but never did obviously.  Oh well I'm happy since they finally won a playoff game.  But the media will be all over their asses because they did not win by 50 and Rex had a fumble.  Freaking Brady throws 3 INTS today but will be crowned as perfect in the papers I'm sure since the "best team in football" could not put away the Pats at home.  Those experts really have it all figured out don't they?  Same as the Colts having no D.  LOL! 

Yeah, I'm tired of the whole Saints/ Hurricane Katrina thing.  It's just slammed down our throats IMO.  I also get tired of hearing about how crappy the Bears are as they roll to a 14-3 record, win their division, and get the nmbr 1 seed.  All the teams left are practically the same team.  Nobody is head and shoulders above the rest really.  Anyone could beat the other.  None of them are perfection...not even New England.   

But we must put the predictions in and here are mine. 

Bears vs the Patriots.  As odd as the Bears are I think they will get it done in Chicago.  The Patriots just seem to always get a win.  No matter how good or not Brady does.

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 15, 2007, 04:19 AM
I find it odd that the AFC championship features 2 QB's that threw 5 INT's in wins...

It seems to me thatthe Colts the last few times have figured out how to beat the pats, ..finally. I know the Pats will have a ready gameplan though..but I still pick the colts.

I honestly think the Bears are a bubble waiting to burst...and I think the saints are gonna burst it next week

Colts Vs Saints


Like was mentioned with so many of these 2007 playoffs being close games and all.. I could care less if I was wrong.

 I think the Chargers are going to look at Marty's track record in the playoffs, wonder how a team with SO much talent cannot be ready to play in a playoff game, then look at the coach-- who looks bored with no headset on- trusting a young gun to call plays out there( despite his own playoff coaching record) and then they fire him. OR, if he doesn't win the SB next year he'll be fired, surely. Owners just don't want just awesome regular season teams, they want rings. Marty was lucky to win his last playoff game-- because he had Capt. comeback-General Joe at his reigns. To me..the low battery chargers looked like an arrogant, too full of themselves team out there that really didn't respond well to New England putting up a fight. Seeing as how New England's track record with their current coach and QB, it seemed like the team(chargers) was not prepared well for that--dropped passes, fumblitis, uncharacterisitic defensive breakdowns, stupid personal fouls-- I would blame squarely on the coach. I know he doesn't play the game ..but he's not even communicating with headsets.. how does that look? It's his job to get the team ready and with few exceptions, I don't think he did.

It really seemed like even Brady was thinking ..down 3-14, that, hey, we got them right where we want them...I could see the chargers high fiving each other and over celebrating too much.

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: I Am Sith on January 15, 2007, 08:54 AM
Being a Bears fan, it was really hard to watch that game yesterday.  The Seahawks threw all over the secondary and it seemed like Alexander was getting 5+ every time he got the ball.  The receives for the Bears couldn't catch a thing in the red zone and Rex was very close to having a melt-down (fumble and interception).  But in spite of that, they still held on and won.  I think that this was an eye opener for the Bears and they are going to be ready for next week and the Saints.  Personally, I don't think that the Saints are going to do well in the 10-20 degree weather that will be in Chicago next weekend, and they definitely won't have the fans behind them!

As far as the AFC goes, I really don't know who's going to show up for either team.  Honestly, it's going to be a matter of how the defenses perform in that game.  With both offenses being as mediocre as they were this past weekend, I think it comes down to whoever screws up less wins.

My prediction, Bears vs. Patriots.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on January 15, 2007, 08:58 AM
God, I hope you're right.  After that game, you have more faith than I do in the Bears.  The offense shows up but then the defense gives up twenty four points.

Needless to say, I was on pins and needles the second half.

And I went 1-3 on my predictions.  Shows what I know!

 ;D
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: P-Siddy on January 15, 2007, 10:47 AM
I figured with all the hype my Eagles would get crushed by the Saints, but they held it close. They had a great year. Hopefully they can build on it and get back into the big game.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on January 15, 2007, 11:15 AM
I'll go with Colts vs Bears.  I agree on the Saints not being able to handle the cold.  Either AFC will crush either NFC team though IMO
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on January 15, 2007, 03:19 PM
Oh, Colts vs. Bears is a wet dream.

To see Manning lose to the Bears would be icing on the cake and the perfect ending to one of the craziest Chicago seasons...
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 15, 2007, 07:55 PM
I'll go with Colts vs Bears.  I agree on the Saints not being able to handle the cold.  Either AFC will crush either NFC team though IMO

They may not be able to handle the cold, but they can definitely handle the high wind  ;)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on January 15, 2007, 09:57 PM
I'll go with Colts vs Bears.  I agree on the Saints not being able to handle the cold.  Either AFC will crush either NFC team though IMO

They may not be able to handle the cold, but they can definitely handle the high wind  ;)
Ba da bump bump :P
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Broem on January 21, 2007, 11:16 AM
Well it's suppose to snow in Chicago today with temps near 30.  That is not to bad really.  If it was in the teens that would be more ideal for the Bears.  I am still going with the Bears since I am incredibly biased being a fan of theirs :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 21, 2007, 11:52 AM
I'm gonna go New England and New Orleans for the Super Bowl, not that these things can be predicted, but I'm secretly hoping the Bears kick the Saints' ass.  I won't be able to stand hearing about the Saints Cinderella story and overcoming Katrina and all this bull**** for a week after the Super Bowl if they win.

Go Bears.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on January 21, 2007, 01:59 PM
I'm going Colts/Saints.

But my confidence on those picks is about 5%

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on January 21, 2007, 02:05 PM
Last week during the divisionals, after NO beat Philly and the Pats haven't played yet, I mentioned to my sister it was going to be a Pats - Saints Super Bowl.  I'll stand by that guess (although the more I think about it, the Bears could win and the Pats-Colts game scares me).
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Nicklab on January 21, 2007, 06:20 PM
Who would've thought that the Bears would wind up turning this into a blowout?  Could this be a rematch of Bears-Pats at long last?  If it is, I think things might wind up a little more interesting this time around.

But I still wouldn't count the Colts out just yet.  They were able to beat a great defensive team in Baltimore last week.  And now they're playing at home.  But as always, they have to play the game and then we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Broem on January 21, 2007, 08:32 PM
DAAAAAAA BEARZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!  WOOOOHOOOO!!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: I Am Sith on January 21, 2007, 08:36 PM
I think that this was an eye opener for the Bears and they are going to be ready for next week and the Saints.  Personally, I don't think that the Saints are going to do well in the 10-20 degree weather that will be in Chicago next weekend, and they definitely won't have the fans behind them!

My prediction, Bears vs. Patriots.

Half right so far...  And considering that it's 21-6 Patriots at the half, the other half of my prediction is looking good too.

BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: I Am Sith on January 21, 2007, 10:19 PM
I think that this was an eye opener for the Bears and they are going to be ready for next week and the Saints.  Personally, I don't think that the Saints are going to do well in the 10-20 degree weather that will be in Chicago next weekend, and they definitely won't have the fans behind them!

My prediction, Bears vs. Patriots.

Half right so far...  And considering that it's 21-6 Patriots at the half, the other half of my prediction is looking good too.

BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, that was short lived...  I should have kept my mouth shut!  Congratulations to the Colts and their fans.  It's been a long wait.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 21, 2007, 10:22 PM
Thank-you, thank-you COLTS!!!

I'm so glad I don't have to see the ******* Patriots in the SB again, yes!
Gonrats to Peyton too.

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on January 21, 2007, 10:22 PM
Gonrats Payton!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on January 21, 2007, 10:34 PM
Gonrats to the Colts.  Boo to the Bears...but I wanted the NFC game to end in a 0-0 tie

Super Bowl Prediction Colts 56 Bears 3
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Rob on January 21, 2007, 10:44 PM
There should be a lot of interesting debate over who has the edge at QB.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Nicklab on January 21, 2007, 10:52 PM
Damn, what a comeback!  At least we got one good game today.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 21, 2007, 10:54 PM
There should be a lot of interesting debate over who has the edge at QB.

After 2 weeks of pundits we will find someone to say that Rex is better than Peyton, don't  you worry.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: jjks on January 21, 2007, 11:26 PM
Gongrats Colts fans, wish the Saints could have made it to.

 Co Indy!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on January 22, 2007, 01:28 AM
I called the bears in the SB from the start so I was pleased with that...  The Colts/Pats game I could've given a **** about but I really thought the Pats were going to win.  That was a really hard-fought victory for the colts, and I'm probably slightly happier they're in...

I was just happy to see Seattle ousted again this year.  After that it was mostly all downhill for me...  The Bears game I really thought would be closer, and I have to admit I was rooting against the Saints because I was sick of the BS about them...  I'm disappointed in the AFC finalists in general, but Manning deserved it this year I think, more than seeing the Pats yet again, so it worked out...  Should make for an interesting super bowl after the surprising blowout by the Bears...  I'll take the Bears over the Colts, but close.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on January 22, 2007, 09:26 AM
Oh, Colts vs. Bears is a wet dream.

To see Manning lose to the Bears would be icing on the cake and the perfect ending to one of the craziest Chicago seasons...


Had to change my boxers this morning.

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 22, 2007, 10:52 AM
Oh, Colts vs. Bears is a wet dream.

To see Manning lose to the Bears would be icing on the cake and the perfect ending to one of the craziest Chicago seasons...


Had to change my boxers this morning.


That's a good start.  Now continue the trend, and change them tomorrow morning too, and then muster enough courage to change them the day after that.  Before long, you'll be conducting daily underwear changes like the rest of us.

 ;)

Congrats on the Bears.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 22, 2007, 01:00 PM
Damn, what a comeback!  At least we got one good game today.

I'd call it 1 and 3 quarters of a good games. ;)

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 22, 2007, 01:01 PM
Gonrats Payton!

Who?! Walter?......Why?

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 22, 2007, 01:39 PM
Bill Parcells retires. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvStb18T2JXd1BPv46EsgZw5nYcB?slug=ap-parcellsretires&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 22, 2007, 04:54 PM
Bill Parcells retires. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvStb18T2JXd1BPv46EsgZw5nYcB?slug=ap-parcellsretires&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Not really surprising at all.

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=13742.msg276311#msg276311

Though I really dislike the cowboys, I hate Terrell Owens..to the extent that I wish it were him gone of the two. I can respect a coach like parcells; not respect a "player?" like Owens. Somehow the bonehead Jerry Jones , oops cowboys organization puts value in **** like that. I could realistically could have seen the team going for a better record next year and further in the playoffs were Parcells still the coach and Owens gone. I'll wager that the ownership being committed to Owens was an additional negative factor for Parcells to consider for staying on :P. I'm sure the coach didn't want to babysit...caretake for the whiner another year... GOOD FOR HIM!


DS     
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 22, 2007, 07:40 PM
Oh yeah Jerry Jones must hate having the NFL leader in receiving touchdowns on his team who also happens to put fans in the seats and have people nationwide tuning into games that they ordinarily wouldn't care about just to see him.

Yeah, can't imagine what the Cowboys see in Owens.

 ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 23, 2007, 01:32 AM
Yeah, me either..like the cowboys organization EVER had problems putting fans in seats even when they were winning 1 or 2 games in the early 90's when they could only beat Washington ::). Like, the plowboys were in real threat of having primetime games stripped of them or losing Thanksgiving games altogether--Oh, you know they were about to lose that too, good thing ole' TO came along to right the ship and save that from happening. ::)

I actually personally know quite a few Cowboys fans and I'd say more than half can't stand Owens, didn't want him in the first place, and he's the first one they point at when things are going wrong there. Oh, and ah ..he's NOT the first one they point at when things went right for their team this year.


Yeah, people nationwide never tuned into all the annually televised Cowboys games until Owens showed up--thank goodness he did, phew man, that was alot of wasted TV programming.  :D :D ;D ::)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 23, 2007, 09:28 AM
You can hate him as much as you want, but you can't change his statistics.  Numbers are numbers, and he's one of the top 10 wide receivers in history, and borderline top 5.

Nothing else you're talking about really matters once the ball is snapped.  And once the ball is snapped, he receives for lots of yards and lots of touchdowns, and did it better than everybody in history with the exception of a very select few ultra talented players.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 23, 2007, 11:39 AM
Ah, so you're a numbers, stats guy. So, do you only like him for that only then?

Marvin Harrison's got nice numbers and stats, comparable to Owens except he's a lot less selfful, is classful and modest. So I guess the difference between the two is one's a premadonna.

So you're an Owens fan based on the numbers alone or do you like him for, ah.. other reasons?




So anyway, my point has been made that Jerry Jones and his organization did not require Owens' numbers/stats to help fill their seats with fans(it has never been a problem) it didn't enhance their team's primetime appearances or viewers of those either(they never had a problem with that before being dubbed "Americas Team" and all- they were never going to lose Thanksgiving games or other primetime games).

I'll agree that, for the folks that hated Jerry Jones and the cowboys and Owens...that now they dislike them even more when Owens was signed. ;D

Nobody's trying to change anything, and most won't deny his 'numbers' either. Gee, could you imagine how many fans he would have if numbers were all folks/potential fans cared about ::)? Wow, that would be a lot of shallow folks if that were true :(.


DS
   
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 23, 2007, 03:07 PM


So you're an Owens fan based on the numbers alone or do you like him for, ah.. other reasons?

   

Or course not, don't be foolish.  I thought it was obvious that I admired his teeth and his biceps as well.





Nobody's trying to change anything, and most won't deny his 'numbers' either. Gee, could you imagine how many fans he would have if numbers were all folks/potential fans cared about ? Wow, that would be a lot of shallow folks if that were true.



It's all about the numbers man, all about the production.  Nobody likes the players with ****** stats.  Are you saying you want a bunch of players on your team that don't produce?  Maybe I shouldn't be asking a 49ers fan.

 :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Paul on January 23, 2007, 03:39 PM
Yeah, me either..like the cowboys organization EVER had problems putting fans in seats even when they were winning 1 or 2 games in the early 90's when they could only beat Washington ::).

I think you mean late 90's.

Early 90's looked like

91 Wilcard Playoff win,  loss in Division

92 Super Bowl Win
93 Super Bowl Win
94 Loss in NFC Championship Game to Superbowl Winners San Francisco
95 Super Bowl win....

It was 96 that the bottom fell out and it has sucked for the last decade.

I am a die Hard Cowboys fan.  I am glad Parcells is gone.  I would not be upset if TO was gone too.  But during the whole Over Dose thing, I got sucked in to being a fan of his.  Anybody who is hated by the Media that much, has to be alright.

For those not here in Dallas every year, I can tell you why I think Jerry Jones got TO, it wasn't to pack the seats or get primetime games, Jerry is living with a decision he made to not take Randy Moss.  Everytime Randy Moss made a touchdown for the Vikings or Raiders Jerry was told by the idiots here on the Radio that he missed on a GREAT receiver and his off the field problems should not be held against him and the fact he is locker room cancer is over blown.  Ever since then, every head case or criminal reciever (or both) has been given a shot here.  And we as Cowboy fans are suffering because of hindsight.  Again, my personal opinion.

We missed out on drafting a Quarter back the last 3 years because we had to get Testeverde and Bledsoe.  I was afraid if he stayed one more year we would get Phil Simms or Frank Reich as starting QB.

The best thing about Parcells being gone is that we won't have an off season and draft filled with signing every Free Agent who played for the "Glorified Gym Teacher" on another team or is the kid of a former player.  That was getting old. 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 23, 2007, 10:39 PM
No, I meant the early 90's...actually I was off by 1-2 years only...88- 3-13 record, and 89 1-15 record. That's an interesting opinion of why you believe Jerry bought the Owens product- haven't heard it put that way yet.

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on February 1, 2007, 05:25 PM
So, I'm curious to hear everyone's picks for the big game...

After proving the 'experts' wrong on the Saints game, I gotta stick with the Bears on this one - Grossman sure as hell doesn't deserve a ring, but the defense does.

And Lovie is just ****** cool.




Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on February 1, 2007, 05:45 PM
Rooting for the Bears (they've been my favorite team all my life), but picking the Colts, by thirteen.

However, looking forward to this more than anything:

(http://www.jamiestarr.net/musicology%20tour%20pic%20prince%20on%20purple%20guitar%20II.jpg)

He's gonna tear that **** up.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 1, 2007, 07:56 PM
So, I'm curious to hear everyone's picks for the big game...

After proving the 'experts' wrong on the Saints game, I gotta stick with the Bears on this one - Grossman sure as hell doesn't deserve a ring, but the defense does.

And Lovie is just ****** cool.


These things can't be predicted, anything can happen.  But the Colts will likely win.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on February 1, 2007, 08:00 PM
Bears here too.  I predicted they'd get here and so I'm sticking with them now.  I didn't think the Colts would make it but they're not a team I really dislike for any particular reason.  Glad to see the Seahawks done for another season though, that and screwing the Bengals season (again) were the highlights of the playoffs (and the race up to them) for me. :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: I Am Sith on February 1, 2007, 08:58 PM
I'm rooting for the Bears all the way but their output will really depend on which Rex shows up.  I'm praying that it's 'Don't do anything that will hurt the team' Rex.  If he shows up then I think that the Bears have a better chance than most people are giving them.

I would also love to see 'Peanut' Tillman run back a bad Peyton throw, and not to mention Hester rip up a return or two.

In the end I think that it's going to be a really good game, and if the Colts do end up winning, at least we won't have to hear every media outlet talking about how Manning can't win the big game...  Enough already!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Paul on February 1, 2007, 09:14 PM
I am going to say Colts.

However, if the Bears win, it will be because Hester runs back a couple for TD's or the Bears Defense outscores their offense.

However, if the Colts do win, imagine how many MORE commercials with Peyton Manning there will be...instead of every other commercial it will be every 2 out of 3.  He may not be able to win the big game, but his agent is on fire.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on February 1, 2007, 09:31 PM
The cool thing about this Super Bowl is that if my team doesn't win, I'm okay with it.  I don't hate the Colts (or Manning for that matter) - it would be nice to see a great quarterback finally win the 'big one.'

But I still want them to lose.  Big time.  To the Bears.

 :-*
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 1, 2007, 09:53 PM
I think the Bears are going to tear the Colts apart.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on February 1, 2007, 11:04 PM
I want to see the Bears win, but Peyton's a pretty stand-up guy, and I wouldn't mind seeing him finally get a ring either.  I'm still going with the Bears though.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Mikey D on February 2, 2007, 10:43 AM
**** Peyton Manning and the Colts.  I'm rooting for the Bears.  Will they win?  Probably not, but I'm hoping.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on February 2, 2007, 10:51 AM
Since I can't cheer for any team in my favorite team's division...Go Colts!  I really think the Bears are lucky to be where they are, really...they played an easy schedule (easiest in the league!) and lost to the Patriots and almost lost to the Vikings (twice!), Bucs and Cards.  I think if the Colts contain Hester and the O-Line doesn't give up a lot of sacks, its going to be a rout.  My real prediction: Colts 38 Bears 13
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 2, 2007, 12:00 PM
**** Peyton Manning and the Colts.  I'm rooting for the Bears.  Will they win?  Probably not, but I'm hoping.

Pats fan.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on February 2, 2007, 01:25 PM
Favre Will Be Back...with the Bears! (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/02/02/bc.fbn.packers.favre.ap/index.html)













j/k   :P
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on February 2, 2007, 02:35 PM
I'm thinking the Colts will win but a lot of people around here are cheering for the Bears because of Israel Idonje (sp?) who went to the University of Manitoba and grew up two hours west of us.  Lots of old Bears fans in these parts too from the old Ditka days. 
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Morgbug on February 4, 2007, 07:57 PM
You know what's lame?  Having Canadian signals take over during the superbowl, but only during the commercials ::)  I so hate that. 

Colts 16-14 Bears at the half, like you're not watching.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: DSJ™ on February 4, 2007, 08:13 PM
like you're not watching.

Just for... (http://www.didyouknow.cd/music/graphics/princelogo.gif)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Ghost of QG on February 4, 2007, 10:03 PM
The forces of pure evil were defeated tonight in Miami by the men in white and blue. The right team won. Congrats Colts and their fans!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on February 4, 2007, 10:06 PM
Gonrats to the Colts!!!  It was a lot closer than it should have been...blame the rain I guess.  Colts didn't keep the foot on the neck as much as I'd of liked to have seen...all I know is like 4-LOSW, I am the Warlord of Sports Betting.  I bet a coworker the winner brings in a Banana Cream Pie...I'll be eating good on Tuesday :)
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Neal on February 4, 2007, 10:17 PM
Way to prove your critics right, Rex.  If you take away Hester's kick return and Jones' 52-yard run, the Bears did NOTHING when they had the ball.  Oh well.

Congrats to the Colts and their fans.  Peyton finally has his ring.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on February 4, 2007, 10:26 PM
all I know is like 4-LOSW, I am the Warlord of Sports Betting.

Ahem.

My real prediction: Colts 38 Bears 13

picking the Colts, by thirteen.

Final score: Colts 29, Bears 17 - Colts win by twelve

Who's the Warlord of Sports Betting now, bitch?

Quote
However, looking forward to this more than anything:

(http://www.jamiestarr.net/musicology%20tour%20pic%20prince%20on%20purple%20guitar%20II.jpg)

He's gonna tear that **** up.

Correct again!

But yeah, gonrats to Indy--as a die-hard Colts fan, I've been waiting for this day for my whole life!  Been a long time coming, but my team finally did it!
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Scott on February 4, 2007, 10:27 PM
you usually this much of an ass?
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Nicklab on February 4, 2007, 10:31 PM
**** Peyton Manning and the Colts.  I'm rooting for the Bears.  Will they win?  Probably not, but I'm hoping.

I guess getting knocked out in the AFC championship game smarts more than the Bears totally embarassing the Pats in 1985, huh?


Congrats to the Colts. It was a tight game in the first half, and after that the Colts came out firing and Rex Grossman showed his true nature.  He wasn't even an effective "game manager" like the illustrious Trent Dilfer of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens.  And surprisingly the Colts D was really pumped up tonight and was stopping the run.  And then factor in just how much losing Cedric Benson hurt the Bears gameplan.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on February 4, 2007, 10:36 PM
you usually this much of an ass?

You know you wouldn't want it any other way.

 :-X
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 5, 2007, 01:20 AM
I was surprised at how bad the Bears D ended up being. I really thought they'd keep the Colts in better check, maybe even sack a few times. I'm thinking the Bears might need a new QB.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Jesse James on February 5, 2007, 01:29 AM
Well I'm just proud I called the Bears making it to the super bowl...  I called them winning it too but I guess I didn't care either, so yippee!

My buddy bet on Prince's opening song and won a lot...  Good for him.  I didn't get his report on what he bet on the coin toss though.

The game was ugly all night...  Not so much because of the weather.  I have a hard time accepting that excuse for all the sloppy playing on BOTH sides of the ball tonight.  Ugly super bowl, but they're all fun so it was cool.  The first half really left the game open...  I thought the Bears could've come out in the 2nd and taken it.  Not because of the score so much as the fact that the Colts weren't dominating by any means and the Bears D had been keeping them in it up till that point...  Then it all went to hell in the 2nd half and that was that.

I wasn't intensely rooting for either team which made this probably the calmest super bowl ever for me.

On my way home this evening there were cops EVERYWHERE nabbing people on their way back from SB parties I guess.  Just tons of them.  I decided to check out the scanner when I got back in and man that thing's been popping since about 11 when I walked in.  The local cop followed me out to my house from the end of the road too...  I didn't see this many police on New Year's Eve even.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Broem on February 5, 2007, 08:01 AM
Well the result was disappointing but not that unexpected really.  The funny thing is the Bears really did not play all that well - mainly the offense - and still had a solid chance to win it.  But Rex threw the interception and back it came for a TD and that was it.  It was far from the slaughter many had thought it would be.   Congrats to the Colts they were the better team obviously but the Bears proved IMO that they belonged there.   I think New England would have probably beat the Bears  but probably not Baltimore and San Diego.   
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: I Am Sith on February 5, 2007, 09:01 AM
I was surprised at how bad the Bears D ended up being. I really thought they'd keep the Colts in better check, maybe even sack a few times. I'm thinking the Bears might need a new QB.

I think that the telling factor of why the Bears D performed as bad as they did was when they showed the total Indy plays at 64 and the total Bears plays at 24...  When your defense is on the field for that long, you can't expect them to do very well, especially late.  I agree though, I thought that they were going to have a much easier time stopping the run than they did.  I'm looking forward to next year when they get Tommy Harris and Mike Brown back.  They also need to make sure that they keep Briggs next to Urlacher for a long time...

As far as Rex is concerned, I take him for what he 'technically' was this season, a rookie quarterback with a lot more to learn.  This was his first full season at the helm and he was able to help get them to the Superbowl.  If he can work on his weaknesses in the off-season and work with Ron Turner to develop a more diverse offensive attack, I think that they will be in good shape again next year.

Congrats to the Colts, and Tony Dungee.  It's been a long time coming.
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on February 5, 2007, 09:24 AM
Can't say that I'm surprised at the Bears loss...Manning and the Colts are a great team and the better team won.

I've been busting Grossman's chops all year and I think it might be time to give someone else a chance.  I know he's a rookie and all, but sometimes you just can't change a person's attitude...or decision making processes.

It's true, you can't win a Super Bowl without a great QB.

Maybe next year...
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 5, 2007, 02:37 PM
I found it interesting that when talk all week about the bears surrounded a redundant 'defense wins championships'(it was really ground in, too). Then it came true when thankfully the Colts D won the game.
I did predict them to win and I'm glad for Peyton to get his ring finally. I was really sick of this defense talk for weeks before the game...defense is needed sure, but, you got to be able to move the ball yourself too ::) to win. I also felt the Colts D had really jelled together in these playoffs and looked great.

Their (COLTS)defense gave up 10 points only, not many first downs and, after special teams gave up a stupid penalty on a kickoff, allowed a short field field goal. Actually if you look into it, the defense only allowed 1 good touchdown drive while STs gave up basically 10 points.

I feel like Grossman is done. I could expect a SB return for the Bears if they get a new, talented QB. They've already got the talent surrounding the position it seems. Desmond Clark had a decent SB showing he could be proud of too.

So, they said that the first ever SB commercial 'winner' would be announced during the 2 minute warning. I watched during commercial time and saw nothing...anyone know who won that?

DS
Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: ruiner on February 6, 2007, 11:40 AM
Rooting for the Bears (they've been my favorite team all my life), but picking the Colts, by thirteen.



Quote
But yeah, gonrats to Indy--as a die-hard Colts fan, I've been waiting for this day for my whole life!  Been a long time coming, but my team finally did it!

Are you mocking someone specifically, or just the thread in general?

Title: Re: NFL 2006-07
Post by: Matt on February 6, 2007, 11:48 AM
Are you mocking someone specifically, or just the thread in general?

Yes.