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Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on September 20, 2006, 11:25 AM
I must have missed this last week (posted on Friday the way it looks), but over at the Galactic Hunter Blog (http://www.galactichunter.com/blogger/?p=71#more-71) they have a few rumors about a possible (large) action figure line accompanying the upcoming Clone Wars 3D cartoon.  Grain of salt and all of that, but I just thought I'd pass it along here in case anyone else had missed it like I did.  Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2006, 11:50 AM
There may be something to that especially if AP generated the rumor. :-\
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Nicklab on September 20, 2006, 12:15 PM
The indications from Hasbro at Comic Con are that they would be interested in supporting the new Clone Wars cartoon.  But it seems like we're not going to see the cartoon until either late 2007 or early 2008, and obviously the line will be the same way.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2006, 12:39 PM
Like other years when they had the cartoon I bet it will be April/May, then by Nov, they will release DVD for the cartoon and come out with figures at the same time.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Darth Broem on September 20, 2006, 01:34 PM
Oh my.  Forty figures right off the bat?  Plus 2 preview waves before it?  Better hope the show is actually good!  That just seems like a high number for a new line.  Then again they jam about 80 figures a year at us anyways.   I knew the live action show was not to be ready until the end of the decade (if it truly happens).  But now the animated line is not until 07-08?  That seems like a long time away but I guess it really is not.  No wonder they need the multi-media event next year with the video game and all. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: speedermike on September 20, 2006, 06:39 PM
The amount of toys sounds right for a show that will run for a full season, and then repeat all year long.  I have faith in this show, seeing how well the CW cartoons were done.  It'll be a good way to keep new stuff on the pegs.  The real question is, will they be "real" looking or stylized to match the 3D animation.  From what I've heard, the show will be very stylized and look more like a 3D version of the cartoon, as opposed to trying to make the characters look like their movie counterparts.

Maybe well finally get some non-droid Seperatist armies!
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Rune Haako on September 20, 2006, 07:11 PM
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Maybe well finally get some non-droid Seperatist armies!

Neimoidian Warriors, Skakoan Commandos, Gossam Commandos, and Koorivar Fusiliers.

Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Jesse James on September 21, 2006, 04:32 AM
Interesting rumors for sure, but a 40 figure blitz in a few waves seems incredibly excessive and out of sync with past precedant...  Of course not to say that it would be impossible either...  I suppose without a film they're left latching onto the TV series as their great hope for success...

It's interesting anyway though, something to look forward to I guess.  If it's realistic sculpts I'm pretty game for it either way it goes.  I don't dig animated sculpts.

40 figures though sounds like it would be a rough go on the wallet...  Though I've always bailed on buying in bulk for the midnight madness for the past 2 films...  And it paid off.

Speaking of, I wonder if there could/will be a "big event" to surround the release of these?  I'd assume so but will it draw like the film releases have in the past years?  Eh, just food for thought.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: P-Siddy on September 21, 2006, 08:41 PM
Neimoidian Warriors, Skakoan Commandos, Gossam Commandos, and Koorivar Fusiliers.

Oh, my!!  ;D

Sorry, sounded too much like Wizard of Oz to resist. It'd be interesting to see what comes of this.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Artoo on September 21, 2006, 08:57 PM
When's the show come out. I think it was '08 or was that the live action?  ???
If the show is realistic instead of the first one, I'll probally army build the army builders.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Jediknight760071 on September 22, 2006, 12:52 AM
Looking forward to more Clone Wars. I like the imaginative qualities being separated from the line that's supposed to be accurate.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: speedermike on September 22, 2006, 05:32 PM
Clone Wars 3D is currently scheduled to come on Fall 2007.  They will have the first previews at Celebration 4.  Hopefully, they'll hit the net a few hours later.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Artoo on September 23, 2006, 12:08 AM
I'm looking forward to it! Mainly to keep me intrested in SW more!
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Dan on September 24, 2006, 09:43 AM
If the series is good, count me in for a full set, 40 or no.

But if the series is anything like the phantom menace (the kids wanted to watch that last night, uggg), the toys better rock hard.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: speedermike on September 24, 2006, 11:54 AM
OH NO!  Heaven forbid the KIDS watch Star Wars!
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D Line (Rumors)?
Post by: Artoo on September 24, 2006, 02:36 PM
LOL. :P
Title: Clone Wars Figure Speculation Thread
Post by: David on November 9, 2007, 08:32 PM
Bumping this up for the new Clone Wars line!

Here's some stuff I'd like to see.

Basic Figures:
Obi Wan Kenobi w/Removable Armor (new, SA)
R2-D2, R4-G9 sculpt w/Holographic Dooku (repaint)
Adi Gallia (new, SA)
Bariss Offee (new, SA)
Stass Allie (new, SA) **RUMORED**
Saesee Tiin w/Space Armor (new)
Captain Fordo, Siege on Coroscaunt (new)
Papa Wookiee w/Wookiee Child (new)
Scared Elephants 2-Pack (new)
San Hill (new)
Durge (new, SA)
IG Lancer Droid (new)
Asajj Ventress (new, SA)
Anakin Skywalker, Duel on Yavin (new, SA)
K'Kruhk (new)
Tarr Sierr (new)
Sha'a Gi (new)
Clone SCUBA Trooper (new)
Quarren Commander w/Trident (new)
Padme Amidala, Buns Hairdo (new)
Padme Amidala, Beehive Hairdo w/Anakin's Braid (new)
Nelvaanian Shaman (new)
Nelvaanian Warrior (new)
Nelvaanian Mutant (new)
Techno Union Scientist (new)
MagnaGuard (new, SA)
Paxi Sylo w/Water Cantine and Windmill (new)

Vehicles and Beasts:
Asajj Ventress' Starfighter (new)
Anakin's Modified Starfighter (rerelease)
Geonosian Starfighter (rerelease)
Count Dooku's Solar Sailer (new)
AT-TE (new) **RUMORED**
Big Blue Nelvaan Creature w/Anakin (new w/repack Anakin)
Big Furry White Nelvaan Creature w/Tatooed Anakin (new w/repack Anakin)
Keelkana w/Mon Calamari (new)

Multipacks:
Rattattak Arena Creatures Multipack
Clone Troopers and Speeder Bikes Multipack
IG Lancer Droids and Speeder Bikes Multipack
ARC Troopers Multipack
...I'll probably think of more! ;D

P.S. This thread's name should should probably be changed, removing the 'All-New' and perhaps replacing it with '2008.'
Title: Clone Wars Figure Speculation Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 26, 2007, 09:07 AM
This line will be another turning point for me. It'll be a wait and see thing, but I can't see myself investing heavily in this sub-line.
Title: Clone Wars Figure Speculation Thread
Post by: Nicklab on November 27, 2007, 12:13 PM
I'm just looking through the trailer and making notes...

-Anakin Skywalker
-Yoda
-Clone Trooper
-Padme - Senate gown
-Count Dooku - hooded
-Battle Droid Commander
-Magna Guard (SA w/ softgoods)
-Blue ARC Trooper w/ eyes on helmet
-Battle Droid - Redux, maybe with the EPISODE I style battle droid legs and POTJ torso and arms
-Droideka
-Vulture Droid - blue/grey camo
-Obi-Wan Kenobi w/ armor
-Asajj Ventress - SA w/ softgoods
-Super Battle Droid (30AC reissue would be find by me)
-Plo Koon w/ armor
-Republic Navy bridge officer
-Battle Droid or Anakin Skywalker with STAP
-General Grievous - SA w/ softgoods, proper scale
-C-3PO
-R2-D2
-Padme in white outfit
-Dwarf Spider Droid



VEHICLES
-B-Wing style freighter
-AT-TE
-V-19 Torrent
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Scott on February 5, 2008, 07:02 PM
Also from POTF2 (and Gorkoracing)...list of figures from Chinese source:

Anakin Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Yoda
Federation Battle Droid
R2-D2
Captain Rex
General Grievous
Clone Trooper
Ahsoka with Rotta the Hutt
Count Dooku
Commander Cody
Oddball
Super Battle Droid
Clone Trooper
C-3PO
Kit Fisto
Asajj Ventress
Destroyer Droid
IG-series Assasin Droid
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: evenflow on February 5, 2008, 07:26 PM
I want Rotta the Hutt, so thats cool but for the most part nothing too exciting. Nothing new really. I am sure once i see the figures / show i will change my opinion, but this list of name doesnt excite me much.

I am curious about Oddball though.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 5, 2008, 08:59 PM
Also from POTF2 (and Gorkoracing)...list of figures from Chinese source:

Anakin Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Yoda
Federation Battle Droid
R2-D2
Captain Rex
General Grievous
Clone Trooper
Ahsoka with Rotta the Hutt
Count Dooku
Commander Cody
Oddball
Super Battle Droid
Clone Trooper
C-3PO
Kit Fisto
Asajj Ventress
Destroyer Droid
IG-series Assasin Droid

Okay, let's say these are realistic style (since I'm not buying animated style). The figs I'd get from this list just based on name are:
Captain Rex
General Grievous (if corrected size only)
Ahsoka with Rotta the Hutt
Oddball
IG-series Assasin Droid (if very different from IG-88)

Whew, this would be awesome. Only a few I'd buy and none of them army builders. I might add Battle Droids if they have stiffer plastic and are more articulated. they would be the only army builder in this case and at that I wouldn't need too many of them.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: speedermike on February 5, 2008, 09:50 PM
I really hope the line has some more "new" stuff.  Out of that whole list above, only Ashoka is new.  I hope that Lucas uses the CW3D show to develop more enemies for our heroes to fight.  I want to see some seperatist soldier types...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 6, 2008, 12:15 AM
I really hope the line has some more "new" stuff.  Out of that whole list above, only Ashoka is new.  I hope that Lucas uses the CW3D show to develop more enemies for our heroes to fight.  I want to see some seperatist soldier types...

Well Rex is new, though he'll be a kit bash. Oddball is a never done before fig, but will most likely be an ARC pilot repaint.

I'd like to see alien soldiers instead of just Battle Droids. 
Muun
Quarren (armored, not the one in wv 3)
Wat Tambor's race
etc.

Battle packs would work for these. $20-25 sets. have 1 commander and 3-4 grunts.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 6, 2008, 07:25 AM
Ok - so since I'm in the "worried that the line might be animated camp", I have to say, the huge number of repeat characters in that list definitely has me concerned.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Brian on February 6, 2008, 09:13 AM
That list is fairly close to the "17" number that was in one of Rebelscum's 411 reports earlier, saying that the Clone Wars line would have 17 figures this year, with more to come in the future.  That list is pretty close to that.  The character lineup is pretty standard the way it looks, with just a couple new ones, now the big mystery is whether they are "normal" or "animated".  I have a feeling we'll find out at Toy Fair, and that Clone Wars might be a big part of Hasbro's presentation.  Hopefully we'll find out where this series will be airing as well (and if we'll indeed get the theatrical release, which would be cool).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 6, 2008, 09:19 AM
Ok - so since I'm in the "worried that the line might be animated camp", I have to say, the huge number of repeat characters in that list definitely has me concerned.

Agreed, and part of the reason I listed only those figs. I'll most likely get those.
Again:
Captain Rex
General Grievous (if corrected size only)
Ahsoka with Rotta the Hutt
Oddball
IG-series Assasin Droid (if very different from IG-88)

Simply due to the newness (exception to Greivous).

I just don't need to collect all the characters again and I'm certainly not going to army build animated troops again. Heck even realistic style I'm not much army building, though I still want more battle droids, just not those weak plastic limited articulation pieces of carp we have right now. I sincerely WANT the EPI sculpt/mold with thicker more rigid plastic.

-Sal
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Nicklab on February 6, 2008, 10:21 AM
These are the only ones that I'm genuinely curious about:

Ahsoka with Rotta the Hutt
Oddball
IG-series Assasin Droid

The rest seem somewhat predictable.  I would hope that maybe Oddball will have a removable helmet.  We haven't gotten a ROTS era Clone pilot with a removable helmet.  But I think given the images we've seen of the series so far, it's closer in the timeline to AOTC and the Phase I clones than Phase II.

Ahsoka we've seen.  She's another Togruta.  But Rotta?  A baby/young Hutt is somewhat intriguing.

The IG droid is interesting, too.  If it's built off of the VTAC IG-88 that would be fantastic!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: JangoTat on February 6, 2008, 10:43 AM
These are the only ones that I'm genuinely curious about:

Ahsoka with Rotta the Hutt
Oddball
IG-series Assasin Droid

The rest seem somewhat predictable.  I would hope that maybe Oddball will have a removable helmet.  We haven't gotten a ROTS era Clone pilot with a removable helmet.  But I think given the images we've seen of the series so far, it's closer in the timeline to AOTC and the Phase I clones than Phase II.

Ahsoka we've seen.  She's another Togruta.  But Rotta?  A baby/young Hutt is somewhat intriguing.

The IG droid is interesting, too.  If it's built off of the VTAC IG-88 that would be fantastic!

isnt the IG-assasin droid in wave 3? and oddball might also be in the imp. evo pilot set because i thought that set was to include one AOTC pilot, ROTS pilot and a imp. Biggs.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Nicklab on February 6, 2008, 11:05 AM
That one appears to be the Lancer droid, from the battle of Muunilist.  Perhaps more IG droids, but in Assassin form are part of the new series?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Rune Haako on February 6, 2008, 12:33 PM
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I'd like to see alien soldiers instead of just Battle Droids.
Muun
Quarren (armored, not the one in wv 3)
Wat Tambor's race
etc.

I hope we see these two,

Gossam Commando

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/d7/Gossamcommando.JPG)

Koorivar Fusilier

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/7/7b/Koorivar_Fusilier.JPG)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Scott on February 6, 2008, 02:41 PM
This plays in to my general rant about this whole endeavor...its sort of dumb that there are even new Characters to begin with, let alone people wanting more.  There are three pretty large areas of developed canon here...AOTC, Existing Clone Wars and ROTS. 

Everyone that is not in ROTS either has to die or conveniently not have that big of a role in this series. The idea of Anakin having a Padawan borders on rediculous in my opinion from a canonical point of view. 

So...what do people expect?  I can see new or different species/armies/clones but the main characters are still the main characters and things have to bridge from existing Clone Wars to ROTS
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on February 6, 2008, 02:51 PM
I'd like to see a few new Jedi and maybe even a group of bounty hunters or additional Separatist leaders, etc.  Also more army builders would be outstanding like Rune said.  I'm thinking the best format for things like that are more or less going the 2-pk route.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 6, 2008, 02:52 PM
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I'd like to see alien soldiers instead of just Battle Droids.
Muun
Quarren (armored, not the one in wv 3)
Wat Tambor's race
etc.

I hope we see these two,

Gossam Commando

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/d7/Gossamcommando.JPG)

Koorivar Fusilier

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/7/7b/Koorivar_Fusilier.JPG)

Oh hells yeah. I want those ones to. Wanted them from the first time I saw them several years ago. Here's the site:
http://www.holonetnews.com/56/archives/

Lots of fun stuff there to read. I wish it was back up and running again.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: MetalJedi on February 6, 2008, 03:21 PM
I'd like to see Quinlan Vos in the series and not as a background character.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 6, 2008, 03:41 PM
I'd like to see Quinlan Vos in the series and not as a background character.

That would be cool, but not too much Villie. I like that character, but I think he'd become annoying after awhile.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: ctonra on February 6, 2008, 03:52 PM
I agree with Scott on the whole Anakin getting a padawan.   Isn't he just a padawan himself during the clone wars?  Or is the Jedi order so short handed they have padawans training other padawans?  I guess any new main characters are just red shirts in the episodes any way they have to be gone by the time ROTS hits.

They should be bring in characters we have already seen in the clone wars comics or expanding background characters from ATOC and ROTS.  like Oddball and maybe some of the clone commanders.  but I guess this show will be diven by the new character of the week that can be made into toys.  I can't wait for Shadow Anakin and Obi-wan to go with my shadow At-TE.   
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: ctonra on February 6, 2008, 03:56 PM
Also from POTF2 (and Gorkoracing)...list of figures from Chinese source:

Anakin Skywalker
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Yoda
Federation Battle Droid
R2-D2
Captain Rex
General Grievous
Clone Trooper
Ahsoka with Rotta the Hutt
Count Dooku
Commander Cody
Oddball
Super Battle Droid
Clone Trooper
C-3PO
Kit Fisto
Asajj Ventress
Destroyer Droid
IG-series Assasin Droid

Okay, let's say these are realistic style (since I'm not buying animated style). The figs I'd get from this list just based on name are:
Captain Rex
General Grievous (if corrected size only)
Ahsoka with Rotta the Hutt
Oddball
IG-series Assasin Droid (if very different from IG-88)

Whew, this would be awesome. Only a few I'd buy and none of them army builders. I might add Battle Droids if they have stiffer plastic and are more articulated. they would be the only army builder in this case and at that I wouldn't need too many of them.



Isn't Captain rex going to be the mail away figure they will be shipping through Dec 08?  Are we getting two different Captain Rexs? 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2008, 12:43 AM
Others noted it, but I agree...  That list smacks of "animated style" to me too...  I dunno.

It's a very (seemingly to me) kid-oriented list too...  Not much obscure there really, when you think about it.  Or maybe I'm over-analyzing it, but it just seems like it's almost a "Wave 1, Collection 1" type deal.  I hope I'm wrong, but my wallet hopes I'm right.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: David on February 7, 2008, 11:00 AM
Judging by the packaging design I wouldn't be surprised if they were animated style. If this is the case, I would only buy a few. I'd much rather invest my time and money into the IJ and Heroes lines than a line of kid-oriented cartoon-ified SW characters.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on February 7, 2008, 11:55 AM
If they're animated, I'll be able to pay off more on my credit cards this year, because I won't spend a dime on animated figures. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 7, 2008, 12:31 PM
I'll chime in again and say for me, animated style would help my wallet.

I'll also be collecting some Halo stuff this year, so not buying animated style would free up some money for Halo and other toy lines, like Marvel Legends, Marvel Super Heroes, Movie Transformers.

Thankfully Halo will be limited in what I get and I haven't been getting all of the Marvel Legends figs now. The Marvel Super heroes figs are relatively inexpensive and one-time purchases so those will help keep the budget down. THere really isn't many Transformers left I'd like to see made from the movie. Some changes in class size yes and the Mountain Dew transformer, but that's about it.

So if the Clone Wars figures are animated, I really will be saving a bit. Now that I'm basically not army building anymore either (except the Kashyyyk clone), I won't have a need for all the clones that undoubtedly will be out for this subline.

I'm actually looking forward to having some money for a change.

Can't wait to see the stuff coming out of Toyfair so I can plan for all of this.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 7, 2008, 10:04 PM
I guess I'm one of the few guys that would prefer animated style figures, in terms of sculpt.  However, the animated Clone Wars figures of 2004 were painfully unarticulated, so if they combine the unique look of animation with the articulation of the realistic figures, I'd be VERY interested.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Brian on February 8, 2008, 03:45 PM
I guess I'm one of the few guys that would prefer animated style figures, in terms of sculpt.  However, the animated Clone Wars figures of 2004 were painfully unarticulated, so if they combine the unique look of animation with the articulation of the realistic figures, I'd be VERY interested.

I'm wondering how the majority of collectors really feel about the animated vs. realistic issue.  It seems like more people here would rather have the realistic styling, but just listening to a couple podcasts this week (The Forcecast and IHNRadio in particular), it seems like the majority of the people on there are really hoping for animated style.  Like I said, I kind of lean towards realistic myself, but I imagine I will pick them up either way.  I'm wondering if it will be a sort of "mix" similar to Roron Corobb and the upcoming Obi-Wan in Clone Armor.  They are "realistic", but still have an animated look to them.  At the very least, I kind of doubt we'll see the unarticulated style that we got with the previous Clone Wars line.  And, I guess if we do get this line in an animated style - looking at the rumor list posted earlier, we have most of these characters in "realistic" style already (barring costume changes).  Hopefully we'll know in just over a week or so.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Scott on February 8, 2008, 03:59 PM
Great point Brian!  We already have almost everything on said list in SA form in a realistic style, not sure why they would release more of the same
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 8, 2008, 04:23 PM
That's why, at least for me, when I saw the list it almost put the nail in the coffin that they're going to be animated style...  The only thing that bugs me is that not everything listed is stuff we have, and not every character in the toon trailer seemed EXACTLY like his movie counterpart... 

Clone Armor Obi-Wan should probably get bumped in here for examination, but he's not bad looking to me, and really leans to realistic.  But how will clones turn out?  Will Rex look like any other Clone we have, or will there be some "look" to it?

I dunno...  I just know that, if they're all animated, I'm not buying...  It'll be like a new line to me.  That Clone Armor Obi-Wan looked nice and the headsculpt just looked to me like it wasn't the most accurate was all...  We'll see soon enough and all, but this is easily the item I'm most interested in seeing at this point.

All the other stuff (basic waves for the year, Indy stuff, etc.) is stuff I want to see, but this Clone Wars line is going to really determine how much I'm saving or spending.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on February 8, 2008, 06:15 PM
Bleh.  I hate animated style. 

I could see more of a mix though like how they did Roron Corob.  I'd be ok with that.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: speedermike on February 8, 2008, 10:46 PM
"...and not every character in the toon trailer seemed EXACTLY like his movie counterpart"

Actually, that's the only thing that has me interested.  The costumes in the CW3D are just different enough than the movie costumes to warent buying them.  On a realted note, any time someone b*tches about Lucas creating movies to only sell toys, I point out if that were the truth, Obi-Wan and Anakin would have worn more than one costume in each
 film.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: roron corobb on February 11, 2008, 12:51 AM


I hope they work in the Separatist Commandos into the Clone Wars. I really think they would make some really cool looking figures. Plus the Republic Commandos need some competition. Their story was cool to with the heavy looses from the Republic Commandos the Separatist form them to combat this problem.

The Gossam Commando and Koorivar Fusilier would be a welcome addition too.

roron corobb
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 11, 2008, 08:58 PM
Check out the front page for some Rumors & Rumblings (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1202777523,60620,) that includes some details on the AT-TE, figures, and more you won't want to miss. ;) 

Note the figure news...  Animated, partly, which is waht a lot were expecting... 

Anyone else think it leaves Hasbro wide open to release them with non-animated heads at a point?

Hmmm...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: evenflow on February 11, 2008, 09:06 PM
Well it sounds like what i was expecting, a mix of animated and realistic. I have to see pics before i pass judgement.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: speedermike on February 11, 2008, 09:27 PM
I'm surprised that the heads look animated.  I guess none of us were really right or wrong!  I'm actually glad they might be a bit different, after close to 1000 figures, a change would be nice.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Darth Broem on February 11, 2008, 10:31 PM
Well I am in the same boat.  A change would be welcome but we'll see what they are like this weekend.  Hopefully.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 12, 2008, 12:25 PM
If they are the animated style head and are that stylistic, I'll pass.

Battle droids being mostly animated, not just the heads? What a let down. Clones in this animated style, while looking cool, WON'T fit into the regular line.

I'm with everyone else, I can't wait to see what's in store from the Toy Fair coverage. I'll be blitzing many of the major collecting sites for pics from every angle.

But really, if I get nothing else from Toy Fair, I just want to know everything we can possible know about the AT-TE. Size, Electronics, how many clones, etc. I know these were reported on but I want the official word from Hasbro themselves.

Grr, still 5 days away....gawd, I've NEVER anticipated TF this much before.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 12, 2008, 04:56 PM
Anyone else think it leaves Hasbro wide open to release them with non-animated heads at a point?

Totally!  ::)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Jayson on February 12, 2008, 05:04 PM
After watching the new Clone Wars feature at SW.com, I'm thinking Anakin will include a backpack carrying Rotta
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 12, 2008, 08:28 PM
Battle droids being mostly animated, not just the heads? What a let down. Clones in this animated style, while looking cool, WON'T fit into the regular line.

I shouldn't say they're completely stylized Sal, just according to the sources they were more-so than the other figures seen at the time.  The bodies of the Droids seemed "very Episode-1 looking".

I'll leave the rumor at that.  ;)

With that said, the E1 battledroids weren't perfect but were better than ANY battledroid we have to-date IMO, as far as sturdiness and really articulation as well.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 12, 2008, 11:15 PM
With that said, the E1 battledroids weren't perfect but were better than ANY battledroid we have to-date IMO, as far as sturdiness and really articulation as well.

I agree with that whole-heartedly. I'd MUCH rather have the EPI sculpt than the anorexic BDs we've gotten since.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Rune Haako on February 13, 2008, 12:34 AM
Quote
After watching the new Clone Wars feature at SW.com, I'm thinking Anakin will include a backpack carrying Rotta

Roota's surpose to be coming with Ashoka, if rumors are true.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 13, 2008, 04:35 AM
I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I'm starting to think that the only thing that might be stylized are the character heads.

So for example take Captain Rex - let's say they start with the Evolutions sculpt of the Clonetrooper, trick him out to be an ARC-trooper, make it a stylized Jango Head underneath the helmet, I'm willing to bet the helmet itself will be a regular Phase 1 helmet like we got with the comic 2-pack Alpha figure.

I'm starting to think that Hasbro really has taken the "easy" way out here realistic bodies and armored characters with 3-D animation stylized heads on ball jointed necks can EASILY be reissued with more realistic styled heads down the line. Heck, they could have done the COOL thing and just put two different head sculpts in the packaging with the figure. I mean, look at what they've done with the two Ventress figures:

First version:
(http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery/modern_hasbro/clone_wars/basic_figures/commander_asajj_ventress/cw-asajj_3.jpg)

Second version from the battle pack:
(http://www.mwctoys.com/images/review_sithjedi_13.jpg)

I would consider the second version more "stylized" in terms of the head. So if that's the kind of thing they're going to do with these CW3D figures, I'm okay with that.

Now I'm really excited to see what comes out of Toy Fair this weekend.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Brian on March 7, 2008, 02:37 PM
RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Rumor_List_For_The_Clone_Wars_113013.asp) has a new rumor list up for some Clone Wars stuff found in the Target computers.  Hit the linky for everything, but a few things listed are:

087-06-1871: CLONEWARS UNIVERSE 2 PACK
087-06-2060: STAR WARS CLONE COMMANDER FOX (they say $12 exclusive)
087-06-2066: STAR WARS RANCOR MONSTER (different DCPI than the Force Unleashed Rancor)

More at the link.  Not excited to see the return of Target exclusive figures being $12-$13.  I'd like to see the Force Unleashed Rancor re-done as a Jabba's Palace version, but since this is a Clone Wars item, maybe its something else (maybe the "monster" in the recent announcement trailer/doc).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Jesse James on March 7, 2008, 03:39 PM
It's not listed in the Target computer as a CLone Wars item, so I'm not entirely sure on that one that it is.  Wasn't there a rumor for a new ROTJ Rancor?  Perhaps that is it.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Jesse James on March 8, 2008, 02:36 AM
Also, Scum's report is wrong on Commander Fox's price.  It's $12.99 as per our story on the front page...  Also check the Clone Wars Clone Trooper Helmet listing, as that number has changed for some reason or another... 

I'm not sure that everything between our two number lists is Clone Wars though.  Some seems as though it could be under the Legacy brand.  Time will tell, yada yada yada.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Brian on April 4, 2008, 10:00 AM
Not really a rumor or anything, but the Official Site (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/news20080403.html#hljs) posted a couple of drawings of the precursor to the Y-Wing (also mentioned on JD's front page).  It might make kind of a spiffy toy, if it is featured enough I guess. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedipurge on April 4, 2008, 11:11 AM
Not really a rumor or anything, but the Official Site (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/news20080403.html#hljs) posted a couple of drawings of the precursor to the Y-Wing (also mentioned on JD's front page).  It might make kind of a spiffy toy, if it is featured enough I guess. 

My left nut for a ship like that made into toy.  It's just bad ass and reeks to hell of OT------Awesome.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: ctonra on April 4, 2008, 02:06 PM
Why is it always the left one
no one is ever will to give up the right one.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 4, 2008, 02:27 PM
Not really a rumor or anything, but the Official Site (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/news20080403.html#hljs) posted a couple of drawings of the precursor to the Y-Wing (also mentioned on JD's front page).  It might make kind of a spiffy toy, if it is featured enough I guess. 

This is actually what I was hoping to see in the prequels. Knowing that the Y-wing was the "workhorse" of the Republic/Rebellion, it would have been awesome to see it in its glory with more armor and looking much sleeker.

This would make one hella good custom.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedipurge on April 4, 2008, 04:45 PM
Why is always the left one
no one is ever will to give up the right one.



Saving the right one for a Z-95 Headhunter/concept X-wing  :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on April 4, 2008, 04:49 PM
I had been saving both for a Death Star playset, but I've decided to give them up for a Cloud City playset (Hasbro has a dirty secret that I feel I should share now... ICMG will only be available as a pack-in with the upcoming Bespin playset next year).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Nathan on April 4, 2008, 06:50 PM
Nice ... that fighter is pretty slick looking.

Although I'm not entirely sure we should have seen it in the Clone Wars series though--it seems better suited to the III-IV intertrilogy series. Forgive me for waxing incredibly geekish for a second.... (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/ValinKenobi/Forums/nerdglasses.gif)

*The movies already showed the ARC-170, the V-wing, the Delta-7, the Eta-2
*the original toon introduced the V-19 Torrent
*and in other EU there's the Z-95 and a menagerie of lesser-known ones like the Cord-class, the Crusher-class, the NTB-630 naval bomber, and the PTB-625 planetary bomber.

All are established to have been utilized by the Republic fleet during the Clone Wars. Obviously they each have different roles--interceptor, bomber, short-range, long-range, etc--but introducing an early Y-wing now seems a tad redundant.

Sal, I'm actually with you on the point that it would have been sweet to see some "spiffed-up" Y-wings kicking ass for the Republic, but considering what George did give us, I don't know that it fits anymore. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/ValinKenobi/Forums/thinking.gif)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Nathan on April 4, 2008, 06:52 PM
P.S. Here's an image from Incredible Cross-Sections of an OT-era Y-wing with all its plating on. (Some of its design flaws necessitated constant maintenance, so the mechanics just left off most of the coverings for easy access to the guts.)

The Clone Wars version obviously has even more extensive armor insofar as the entire fuselage/neck/bridge area has been expanded into a single big shape that shows some affinities with the V-wing design. Maybe over the years they learned how to condense the systems into a smaller amount of space.

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/c/ce/Original_Y-wing.jpg)

(http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/img/20080403_2_bg.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Greg on April 4, 2008, 07:00 PM
That Concept Y-Wing is pretty cool looking. My main problem with it, and many other Prequel ships/vehicles are that they make OT ships look like steps backwards instead of technological advances.

My favorite part of the Concept Y-Wing is the gunner's bubble turret. Definitely a nice throwback to McQuarrie designs, plus I'm a sucker for WW 2 Bombers, so when features from those planes are incorporated into Star Wars I am one happy geek.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 4, 2008, 10:43 PM
Man, either of those Y-wings would be sweet, but I like the concept one better.

I smell another Y-wing release!!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: CHEWIE on April 6, 2008, 07:04 PM
I dunno... I really don't like that design too much...

Actually, I think I hate it.   :-X
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: speedermike on April 6, 2008, 08:46 PM
Hate?  Really?  I think it's pretty cool, and a nice extension of an idea that's been around since the designing of ANH.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 6, 2008, 10:28 PM
I think it's kinda cool.

Perhaps it's a good sign that they are showcasing it - it might mean that it's a predominent aspect of the series and if that's the case, then we might get lucky toy-wise.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Nicklab on April 6, 2008, 11:36 PM
I like the new/old look.  I had been wondering if we would see the Y-Wing at some point in the prequels or Clone Wars.  The backstory on the fighter is that it had been in service for a long time before the Rebels started using them.  I think it helps tie things together nicely.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Jesse James on April 7, 2008, 12:56 AM
Hate?  Really?  I think it's pretty cool, and a nice extension of an idea that's been around since the designing of ANH.

I'm personally more annoyed they simply chose to ignore the existing EU design myself...  More typical LFL stuff.  They'll now try cramming the two designs in as "official continuity".  Pick one and go with it...  If it were me, I'd probably pick the new one over the old one as it looks like it makes more sense for a "stripped down fighter".  It was certainly a lot bulkier.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Nathan on April 7, 2008, 12:59 AM
I was thinking along the same lines at first, but I don't think it's really either-or. Chronologically they are two decades apart and the latter can easily be the result of miniaturization and modification over that time.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Nicklab on April 7, 2008, 02:23 AM
I don't have a problem with the body fairings being different.  Sure, we've seen different incarnations of the Y-Wing in concept art, but it's just that:  concept art.  And there's plenty of EU backstory about how the Y-Wing was cobbled together, stripped, rebuilt, etc.  I like the fact that the story of the ship is that it was always a work in progress.  This look seems to be another step in that process.  Plus, the extended lines of the cockpit module flowing back to the engines looks more like what a designer would have in mind.  The first step in the ship's evolution, perhaps.

For me, the coolest difference between this Y-Wing and the OT Y-Wing is the cockpit/turret gun.  This new concept drawing harkens back to an older, McQuarrie concept drawing that had a ball turret in rear of the the Y-Wing's crew compartment.  It makes the Y-Wing seems much more like the WWII torpedo bomber that Lucas thought it should be.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Brian on April 28, 2008, 09:55 AM
It sounds like Peter Mayhew mentioned at a con this weekend that Chewbacca will likely be appearing in the animated series, as a figure of him is already being worked on.  I believe I read this at TF.N if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Rune Haako on April 28, 2008, 09:55 AM
Chewbacca w/ shooting fist action. ;)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Darth Broem on April 30, 2008, 11:08 AM
We can almost bet on a young Han Solo popping up in the series at some point.  I can see that happening since Georgie almost put paired him up with Chewy in ROTS.  The series is aimed more towards kids.  They are probably itching to put in a young kid somewhere.  I know that will piss off a lot of original die-hards.  I will be bracing myself for the inevitable. 

I kind of wonder if they will make the Seperatists like Wat Tambor, San Hill, Nute Gunray, Poggle for this series?  Maybe like one every 3 waves or so? 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 30, 2008, 04:58 PM
...I kind of wonder if they will make the Seperatists like Wat Tambor, San Hill, Nute Gunray, Poggle for this series?  Maybe like one every 3 waves or so? 

Gawd no, by your math that's 12 waves of animated figures. I don't want to see that many waves hitting the stores, choking off room for the realistic stye figures.

I'm just not a fan of this animated figure portion of the line.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: JDH1173 on May 9, 2008, 11:12 PM
Watching the previews and the trailers,  I know that a Gunship release is coming; I wonder if they will add on the forward opening doors on the cargo bay seen in the preview.  I would love the Gunship that drops the AT-TE, but I not going to hold my breath.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: Darth Broem on May 11, 2008, 10:22 AM
...I kind of wonder if they will make the Seperatists like Wat Tambor, San Hill, Nute Gunray, Poggle for this series?  Maybe like one every 3 waves or so? 

Gawd no, by your math that's 12 waves of animated figures. I don't want to see that many waves hitting the stores, choking off room for the realistic stye figures.

I'm just not a fan of this animated figure portion of the line.

Despite everyone's gripes about the animated line we all know it's going to be a hit with kids and some adults out there that don't mind the style.  I can not fathom that this show will not produce wave after wave of figures for a few years at least.  Especially since this is going to be a staple on TV for the next couple of years.  It will go over decently with kids and parents.  Why?  Because it is animated, has clonetroopers, has Jedi, and battles.  There will be plenty to flood the toy market for the next few years.  Twelve waves of these animated figures is an absolute lock unless the show totally and utterly sucks beyond belief to the point that no child watches it.  Remember we are talking a younger age group here.  Not teenagers to 40 year olds. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumor/Speculation Thread
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 12, 2008, 10:05 AM
...I kind of wonder if they will make the Seperatists like Wat Tambor, San Hill, Nute Gunray, Poggle for this series?  Maybe like one every 3 waves or so? 

Gawd no, by your math that's 12 waves of animated figures. I don't want to see that many waves hitting the stores, choking off room for the realistic stye figures.

I'm just not a fan of this animated figure portion of the line.

Despite everyone's gripes about the animated line we all know it's going to be a hit with kids and some adults out there that don't mind the style.  I can not fathom that this show will not produce wave after wave of figures for a few years at least.  Especially since this is going to be a staple on TV for the next couple of years.  It will go over decently with kids and parents.  Why?  Because it is animated, has clonetroopers, has Jedi, and battles.  There will be plenty to flood the toy market for the next few years.  Twelve waves of these animated figures is an absolute lock unless the show totally and utterly sucks beyond belief to the point that no child watches it.  Remember we are talking a younger age group here.  Not teenagers to 40 year olds. 

Oh, I know and I get all of this.

For me it just means that much closer to ending collecting, albeit a little quicker than anticipated. Meh, I had already planned on cutting my budget down in half this year and with me not buying the animated line, I'm able to stick to that. I'm planning on halving the budget again next year, and if the animated line takes off and there isn't much in the way of realistic, it's going to become even easier.

The thing is, I just don't see that many waves of figures. Well, I should say all NEW characters. We're talking about a short time frame here between two live-action movies. Unless there are going to be many new secondary and tertiary characters, there isn't that many heros/villains and troops on both the Republic and CIS sides to warrant 12 waves of figs.

Ah well, like I said, for me it's a chance to save money.


...I'll certainly watch the show though.
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 7, 2008, 03:58 AM
Bringing it to you first again...

A look at the Animated Clone Commander, and Animated Clone Lieutenant...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_YellowClone_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_YellowClone_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_BlueClone_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_BlueClone_Full.jpg)
Clicky thumbnails to check 'em out!
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 7, 2008, 08:17 AM
Cool. I'm not collecting these, but it's good that they have officers.

No stripe down the top front of the helmet though? Must be the way the animation is...
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 7, 2008, 10:33 AM
Are these unique figures or variations that will exist on the regular Clonetrooper figure?
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on June 7, 2008, 11:31 AM
Okay...originally, I hated all of these. Now, I'm down for a small clone army (for the AT-TE), Ahsoka Tano, and the mail-away Rex. That will be all! ::)

(This will be possible because I'm pretty much only interested in [as in 'can't live without'] Yarna and the Clone Wars wave from the Legacy line so far.) :)
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on June 8, 2008, 07:38 PM
This isn't exactly unexpected.  Especially since the series is called THE CLONE WARS.  I'd like to see if Commander Cody gets the phase I treatment as a figure since there seems to be some art showing Cody in the series.
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on June 8, 2008, 10:57 PM
See, I think these look terrible.  The only clones I've seen so far that look alright from this series are the ones with the nice weathering.  Easy pass for me (thank God).
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 10, 2008, 10:52 PM
Got a couple more photos of new Clones to share...  Some unique decoes on these two.  A Clone Commander and Clone Trooper with red Republic emblems on them.  Not decoes I immediately recognize on them as being from any specific set or anything, but very cool looking paintjobs.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_RedSpecialCommander_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_RedSpecialCommander_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_RedSpecialTrooper_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_RedSpecialTrooper_Full.jpg)
Clicky to see larger pictures!
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on June 10, 2008, 11:15 PM
Those are some odd paint schemes.  They do look kind of cool, but not enough to suck me into this line...
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 11, 2008, 12:07 AM
Could the Commander figure be that Commander Fox figure that's in the Target inventory control system?
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on June 11, 2008, 01:12 AM
Even though I get why Hasbro is making everything in the animated style and have no problem with it.  I will admit that the clonetroopers in this style do look crappy.  I can tolerate Rex and the whitetrooper for some reason.  But those colored versions look like anorexic models to me. 
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 11, 2008, 01:25 AM
Commander Fox is a good guess... 

I really think the paintjob is incredible though, on these two Clones.  It's as interesting a CLone deco as I've seen, and I'd like a realistic version of both the trooper and the Commander.
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on June 11, 2008, 02:14 AM
There's a Clone multi-pack that's listed as a potential Target exclusive.  These troops might be from that set.  As for Commander Fox?  We went fishing for an image of him in the JTA Q&A but Hasbro didn't bite.

I do know that the Clone Commander has been shown in some of the Clone Wars clips.  I believe it was in one of the scenes on Tatooine.
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 11, 2008, 09:07 AM
My big fear is that we'll get non-animated versions of these.
Title: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: evenflow on June 11, 2008, 09:33 AM
I really like the paint job on these and hope we get movie versions.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on June 11, 2008, 09:56 AM
Well see now we have to get realistic versions for everyone upset that they are animated form.  There will be no end to the clones now.  Hasbro is salivating. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on June 11, 2008, 10:00 AM
These latest clones appear to be working with Padme in the movie...  here's a shot from one of those SW.com previews:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-08/repclone_1.jpg)

It could be Commander Fox or maybe that Target Battle Pack that Nick mentioned.  Or maybe they are part of the B'omarr Monastery battle pack that we haven't heard much about yet?  Maybe that BP will end up being Padme, 3PO, this commander and a couple of these grunts? 

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on June 11, 2008, 10:14 AM
My big fear is that we'll get non-animated versions of these.

I'd say it's a safe bet that Hasbro will milk each paint scheme for all it's worth since it's such a low investment for them.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: jedipurge on June 11, 2008, 11:56 AM
All I want is the Cody style helmet EP2 version in realistic style.

Definately staying away from this line  ::), I can barely keep up with the regular stuff.  I think I'll only get a 1 or 2  but only for the weapons I do like the pistols and that rocket launcher, and just trade the trooper.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on June 11, 2008, 12:02 PM
These latest clones appear to be working with Padme in the movie...  here's a shot from one of those SW.com previews:

It could be Commander Fox or maybe that Target Battle Pack that Nick mentioned.  Or maybe they are part of the B'omarr Monastery battle pack that we haven't heard much about yet?  Maybe that BP will end up being Padme, 3PO, this commander and a couple of these grunts? 


All those are great theories. What ever the result, I'll be getting them as I really like the deco for these and the look of the CW products in general.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: ctonra on June 11, 2008, 12:38 PM
I am getting sucked into this by the clones, and what kills me is I know in my heart the big H will release these in realistic style as well down the line,  to keep the milking machine rolling.   

maybe just a small squad of each. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on June 11, 2008, 02:09 PM
Definately staying away from this line  ::), I can barely keep up with the regular stuff. 

I can keep up with tracking it all down (if that's what you mean?), but it's the space that I have an issue with... collecting the regular line like I do, along with Indy now and some Joe stuff... no room for anime stuff... or desire really.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on June 11, 2008, 02:56 PM
Upon seeing this commander, I'm going to guess that Mr. Cody will be out by the end of the year.

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commandercody/img/cwmovie_bg.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on June 11, 2008, 03:10 PM
Sweet pic... it's funny how I love the look of the animated characters on screen, but don't care for the figures.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on June 11, 2008, 03:17 PM
I'm about half & half on the animated figures. Some I love, such as the clone Troopers, Yoda, and Anakin, while I really dislike others, such as Greivous and Obi-Wan. My opinions will probably change by July/August, and you'll most likely see the whole animated series in my 2009 Collection Photos.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on June 11, 2008, 05:57 PM
Oh boy, more clone designs. :-\
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: jedipurge on June 11, 2008, 05:58 PM
Definately staying away from this line  ::), I can barely keep up with the regular stuff. 

I can keep up with tracking it all down (if that's what you mean?), but it's the space that I have an issue with... collecting the regular line like I do, along with Indy now and some Joe stuff... no room for anime stuff... or desire really.

Space is in short supply, but so is the money-which is what I have a hard time keep up with.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on June 12, 2008, 12:59 AM
Well the brand new trailer shows Jabba's Sail Barge.  Here's hoping that Hasbro will make it into a toy. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 12, 2008, 02:53 AM
Another day, and yet another Clone...

This time, grey...  OOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_GreyTrooper1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_GreyTrooper1_Full.jpg)
Clicky to check out the picture!

Picture #2 (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_GreyTrooper2_Full.jpg)

Picture #3 (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_GreyTrooper3_Full.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on June 12, 2008, 08:43 AM
Looks to be the clone from the Recon Set

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/Hasbro/Hoth_Recon_Patrol/Speeder_Bike_Recon_01__scaled_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on June 12, 2008, 09:04 AM
Hard to say with 100% certainty, but it sure looks like you are probably right Jayson.  The arm deco and colors seem to fit that Bike set...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on June 12, 2008, 10:38 AM
Well goshdarnit where is the green version at?  We HAVE to get a green one.  I will start a petition.     
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Master_Phruby on June 12, 2008, 03:59 PM
Didn't we already get this set but with better figures?

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/Hasbro/Hoth_Recon_Patrol/Speeder_Bike_Recon_01__scaled_600.jpg)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/tacBPsaleucamiboxfr.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on June 12, 2008, 04:22 PM
You know what's crazy... I like the speederbike deco on the animated version better.  Geeze.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on June 13, 2008, 11:55 PM
We did Master Phurby, if you were lucky enough to find that set from Wal-Mart.  I never did and am still fuming a bit from it  >:(
Title: NEW CHARACTERS/SHIPS w/ PICS!
Post by: speedermike on June 18, 2008, 09:59 PM
I'm soooo glad to finally see some new stuff for the TV show.  All of these would make cool toys!

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery1/19b.jpg)

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery1/21b.jpg)

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery1/22b.jpg)

These are from the new official site update.  There's some new ships there too, but I can't get the links working.
Ah-hah!

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery2/5b.jpg)

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery2/6b.jpg)

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery2/7b.jpg)

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery2/14b.jpg)

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on June 18, 2008, 10:19 PM
What's the blue guys species, or is it a new one? ???
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on June 18, 2008, 11:12 PM
That Republic Shuttle and All-Terrain Mobile Artillery Cannon (AT-MAC) rock!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 18, 2008, 11:57 PM
Remember a Clone Shuttle came up on rumor lists, and everyone assumed it was the V-19?

Makes one wonder if there really isn't a "Clone Shuttle" being him-hawed by Hasbro right now, eh?

And that B-Wing-ish transport would make an insanely cool ship IMO...  There's a customizing project.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on June 19, 2008, 01:25 AM
That Clone Shuttle is definitely pretty damned cool.  I could see something like that fitting into an assortment with the Republic Gunship.  Somewhat scaled down, though.  And considering that Hasbro has confirmed that the Gunship would be coming back into circulation, it could make that shuttle a possibility
Title: Re: NEW CHARACTERS/SHIPS w/ PICS!
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 19, 2008, 09:22 AM
Here's my take on these:

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery1/19b.jpg)
Okay, new alien, but as I'm not getting animated figures, this will be a pass for me. If eventually done in realistic style, I might pick it up.

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery1/21b.jpg)
What? Doesn't anyone else notice this looks like a walking soda pop can with blasters on it? Ridiculous. An easy PASS for me. Come on LFL/Hasbro, show us just a little more ingenuity here, please.

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery1/22b.jpg)
Meh a 3PO repaint. Again, animarted no, realistic, maybe.

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery2/5b.jpg)
whoopiee, yet another Jedi Starfighter repaint. Meh, I'll wait for Target to get it as an exclusive then pick it up for $5-10 when it goes on sale a month after it's release. Otherwise, it's a pass.

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery2/6b.jpg)
Okay this is somewhat interesting. Yes it has B-wing influences. Seems like a lopsided shark to me. It's just interesting enough that I'd get ONE.

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery2/7b.jpg)
YES! Now if THIS is the real clone shuttle, hell's yeah. It looks awesome. Just enough familiarity in this design with the Imperial shuttle and republic gunship, yet it looks like a powerful starfighter all in one. Sign me up for at least one if not more.

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery2/14b.jpg)
Meh, walking cannon. Not really viable in a battlefield as it would be slow and cumbersome and looks like it doesn't hold enough artillery to withstand a prolonged attack run. (still I'd prolly get just one for the heck of it-though price would really be a determining factor)


-Sal
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 19, 2008, 11:02 AM
Add Commander Cody to the list of future animated figures. (If this link is any indication of it by the "standee")

http://www.tfaw.com/Merchandise/Profile/Star-Wars-Clone-Wars-Clone-Trooper-Standup___325928

(http://images.tfaw.com/covers_tfaw/400/JU/JUN085126I.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2008, 11:49 AM
While going through the new Clone Wars stuff at the Official Site, I noticed that it appears R2-KT (or an astro quite similar) might be making an appearance in Clone Wars as well.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 19, 2008, 01:11 PM
While going through the new Clone Wars stuff at the Official Site, I noticed that it appears R2-KT (or an astro quite similar) might be making an appearance in Clone Wars as well.

That's cool. Got a linky??
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on June 19, 2008, 01:15 PM
(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery1/5b.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: ctonra on June 19, 2008, 02:54 PM
I really hope that is R2-KT.   That would be great.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 19, 2008, 03:27 PM
Agreed on R2-KT, that'd really make her a neat figure I think that had more of a "place" on the old shelf too...  Be cool seeing her float into the continuity like that.

Quote
Meh, walking cannon. Not really viable in a battlefield as it would be slow and cumbersome and looks like it doesn't hold enough artillery to withstand a prolonged attack run.

Actually Sal, cannons like that one, just by the looks of it, aren't really frontline duty weapons...  It's more like a self-propelled gun just by looking at it.  I can totally buy the concept then as it's heavy artillery mobile enough to get to a location and do its job, but it's not going to be running in with the AT-TE's.  It looks, to me anyway, like it may be the cannons seen firing on the separatist ships in ROTS actually.  The ones in the broadside exchange.  Or at least similar...

To that end, a self-propelled gun is pretty common.  I believe our modern forces use one called a Paladin...  They're not intended to fight muzzle to muzzle with a tank or whatnot, but rather to put down artillery barages...  In World War 2 context, they usually tried to roll along with the armor/infantry to provide artillery support when the towed howitzers and things couldn't be deployed as quickly.  It reminds me of the big guns rolled up on railroad tracks, more popular in WW1 I think than 2, but still used in both wars.  I dig the idea of taking a ship gun, giving it a "walker" mechanism for mobility, and sending it in to shell the **** out of a fixed target.  That's kinda cool I think, but not action-packed like an AT-TE.
Title: Re: NEW CHARACTERS/SHIPS w/ PICS!
Post by: Jeff on June 19, 2008, 03:52 PM
Hasbro said in the Q&As that the CW3D Jedi Starfighter is coming.  They are re-tooling the Ep2 version to move the droid socket to the middle and to make the socket functional (sort of):

From RS:
While we won't abandon the iconic EpIII version, the focus will be on a new, slightly-modified Delta 2 to match the animation. This new one will be out later this year.

and from Yak:
It will [have] a removable plug that will allow existing Astromechs to plug in. However, like the EpIII Starfighter, it most likely won't be a true-to-scale fit because we want to preserve the aesthetics of the Starfighter proportions first and foremost. We are still noodling and trying to get it as close as possible, though.

I'd expect to see it released in the classic Obi-Wan Red color (like the pic) as well as the Anakin Yellow color (like the LEGO ship).  Plus, I'm sure that eventually we'll probably see more than those two colors released as well after we see more Jedi in the show using one... ;)

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 19, 2008, 03:56 PM
The E3 and E2 ships are surprisingly accurate in scale...  The problem with the droids is that the animators at LFL fudged that up.

Check out the sequence where Anakin comes to see Padme after pwning!!111! the Jedi Temple, and watch closely the Jedi Fighter in the background.  One is CGI animated, the other is a live prop/set piece.  Watch R2 as he magically lifts and sinks into the socket.  Basically the toy's are made right, they just aren't really capable of fitting the droids in them properly.  Lameness, but at least Hasbro gives the socket droid, which I find acceptable personally.  It doesn't help that I think the astromech figures may be a hair on the large side too.

I think they could fudge the underneath so it fit a full droid figure, but it's neither here nor there to me.  So long as the socket is there, I'm sure the toy will be decent.  I hope they do away with the lame blast-off panels is all.  That sucked, never worked right, and couldn't get the panels to stay on tight at all.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on June 19, 2008, 04:01 PM
I've always been a fan of the Jedi starfighters (both AOTC and ROTS models), the repaint issue aside.  I'm glad we're getting this new Clone Wars version, and I think it makes sense to move the astrodroid to the middle of the ship.  Too bad it won't be quite a perfect fit for an astrodroid (according to the info so far at least), but like Jesse, the "plug" is acceptable to me too.  It would be cooler if we could put a whole figure in there though.  I have to say, after seeing these new pics the last day or two from the Official Site, I'm getting more excited about the toy prospects from the animated series.  There could be some pretty nice vehicles coming from this, and with the series likely going on for a few years, there's a lot of time to put some new stuff out.  It does seem like Hasbro is more willing to explore new vehicles now than they ever used to be, they must be selling pretty well the last couple of years.
Title: Re: NEW CHARACTERS/SHIPS w/ PICS!
Post by: jedipurge on June 19, 2008, 05:22 PM

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/gallery/gallery2/5b.jpg)
-Sal

What do you guys wanna bet this is Fisto's, by the color of the droid and it looks similar to the Target version we'd got.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on June 19, 2008, 05:29 PM
The blue guys name is Whorm Loathsom.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Whorm_Loathsom
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on June 19, 2008, 05:34 PM
The blue guys name is Whorm Loathsom.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Whorm_Loathsom

Whorm Loathsom??  ::)

What's next Chik'n Yelowbeli  :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 19, 2008, 09:27 PM
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Chik'n Yelowbeli 

It's actually Chik'n Shi'it, as we know Lucas loves to overuse the '.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: speedermike on June 19, 2008, 09:59 PM
Actually the " ' " is a total EU thing.  I can't think of one MOVIE character that has that! ;)

And you know what, when I was a kid I had no idea that Lucas hadn't made up the word Rancor, or Salacious, and a Wampa wamps Luke pretty hard, and Greedo is kind greedy.  This type of name has been around since 1977.  Get over it.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on June 22, 2008, 03:28 PM
New rumor list from, http://www.rebelscum.com/CH-TCW.asp

Basic Figures
Wave 1
__ No. 1: Anakin Skywalker (Hero of the Republic)
__ No. 2: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Clone Armor)
No. 3: Yoda
__ No. 4: Captain Rex
__ No. 5: Clone Trooper (with gun accessory)
__ No. 6: General Grievous (Attacking Arms)
__ No. 7: Battle Droid
__ No. 8: R2-D2

__ ##: Ahsoka (with Rotta the Hutt) - RUMOR
__ ##: Asajj Ventress (Dark Jedi) - RUMOR
__ ##: C-3PO - RUMOR
__ ##: Clone Trooper (Ultra Articulated) - RUMOR
__ ##: Count Dooku (CIS Leader) - RUMOR
__ ##: Commander Cody (Phase 1 Armor) - RUMOR
__ ##: Destroyer Droid - RUMOR
__ ##: IG-series Assassin Droid - RUMOR
__ ##: Kit Fisto - RUMOR
__ ##: Oddball (Clone Pilot) - RUMOR
__ ##: Super Battle Droid - RUMOR


Rumor List
__ Keep track of the latest TCW rumors in our forums!
__ ##: Ahsoka (Jedi Padawan) - RUMOR
__ ##: ARC Commander (Blue) - RUMOR
__ ##: ARC Trooper (Red) - RUMOR
__ ##: Captain Echo - RUMOR
__ ##: Clone Commander (New Deco) - RUMOR
__ ##: Clone Engineer (Republic Engineer) - RUMOR
__ ##: Clone Trooper (Space Gear) - RUMOR
__ ##: Clone Trooper (Ultra Articulated) - RUMOR
__ ##: Commander Fordo (Phase 2 Armor) - RUMOR
__ ##: Darth Sidious (Hologram w/ Mechno-Chair) - RUMOR
__ ##: Durge - RUMOR
__ ##: General Grievous (Space Destruction) - RUMOR
__ ##: Grievous' Bodyguard - RUMOR
__ ##: Mace Windu (Battle Gear) - RUMOR
__ ##: Mace Windu (Hologram) - RUMOR
__ ##: Padme Amidala (Diplomat) - RUMOR
__ ##: Palpatine (War Plans Meeting) - RUMOR
__ ##: Plo Koon (Battle Gear) - RUMOR
__ ##: Saesee Tiin (Clone Armor) - RUMOR
__ ##: Senator Amidala (War Plans Meeting) - RUMOR
__ ##: Shaak Ti (Jedi Master) - RUMOR

Deluxe Figures
__ Clone Advanced Speeders - RUMOR
__ Dooku's Swoop - RUMOR
__ STAP with Battledroid - RUMOR
__ Vulture Droids - RUMOR

Battle Packs
__ Battle at B'Omarr Monastery
__ Speeder Bike Recon
__ Secret Confession - RUMOR
__ The Confederacy Trap - RUMOR
__ The Duel of the Suns - RUMOR
__ Unknown Danger - RUMOR

Multipacks
__ Wal-Mart Set 1 (Sneak Preview) - RUMOR
__ Wal-Mart Set 2 (Sneak Preview) - RUMOR

Exclusives
__ Captain Rex (Sneak Preview)

Vehicles
__ AT-AP Walker
__ AT-TE
__ Anakin's Starfighter
__ Clone Turbo Tank
__ General Grievous' Starfighter
__ Hailfire Droid
__ Homing Spider Droid
__ V-19 Torrent Starfighter
__ V-Wing Starfighter
__ Advance Spider Droid - RUMOR
__ Azure Angel 2 - RUMOR
__ Republic Gunship - RUMOR
__ Saesee Tiin's Jedi Interceptor - RUMOR
__ Tank Droid - RUMOR
__ Trade Federation Armored Assault Tank (AAT) - RUMOR

Role Play
__ Clone Trooper Helmet
__ Lightsabers
__ Ultimate Lightsaber
__ Weapons Pack


 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JangoTat on June 22, 2008, 08:40 PM
 :o


"Look at the size of that" list!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on June 22, 2008, 10:42 PM
Based on this week's Q&A we can check off both Ahsoka Tano and Plo Koon as confirmed.  It's just a matter of when for those.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on June 22, 2008, 10:57 PM
Regarding the new Jedi Starfighter... moving the droid socket in the center seems to scream blindspot out the viewport. But I'm not a Jedi, am I?  ;)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on June 27, 2008, 07:50 PM
501st Clone Trooper

http://www.blister.jp/item9418.html

I hope it's the one with the Jet Pack.

(http://www.starwars.com/tcw/site/media/planets/gallery1/1.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Reid on June 27, 2008, 08:52 PM
They all have Jet Packs.  :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on June 27, 2008, 10:23 PM
I know. :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JangoTat on June 27, 2008, 10:57 PM
every picture I see just makes me more excited for the movie and the figures! :D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 1, 2008, 12:51 AM
Rebelscum mentioned that this may be a 12" figure?   ???

I'd imagine a 501st repaint is inevitable at some point though, for the 3.75" Clone Wars Clones... 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on July 5, 2008, 11:12 AM
With the latest carded pics of the Wal-Mart 501st Clone Trooper and the Target Commander Fox, I think we've positively ID'd all of the "unknown" clones that have popped up over the last few weeks...

This guy is from the Obi-Wan & 212th Battle Pack (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=17738.0):
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_YellowClone_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_YellowClone_Full.jpg)

This guy is the Wal-Mart Exclusive 501st Legion Clone Trooper (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=17779.0):
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_BlueClone_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_BlueClone_Full.jpg)

This guy is the Target Exclusive Commander Fox (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=17738.0):
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_RedSpecialCommander_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_RedSpecialCommander_Full.jpg)

This guy is from the Yoda & Coruscant Guard Battle Pack (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=17738.0):
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_RedSpecialTrooper_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_RedSpecialTrooper_Full.jpg)

This guy is from the Speeder Bike Recon Battle Pack (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=16881.0):
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_GreyTrooper1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_GreyTrooper1_Full.jpg)


Congrats to all those who speculated/guessed their IDs correctly! :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on July 7, 2008, 02:41 PM
RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Rumor_List_For_The_Clone_Wars_115871.asp) has a new rumor list up for upcoming Clone Wars product.  A lot of it has been seen before, but it is pretty extensive.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: iFett on July 7, 2008, 03:28 PM
Insane...

Not one exclusive Republic Gunship, not two exclusive Republic Gunships, but three exclusive Republic Gunships?

I picked a good year to stop.   ::)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on July 7, 2008, 03:37 PM
Insane...

Not one exclusive Republic Gunship, not two exclusive Republic Gunships, but three exclusive Republic Gunships?

I picked a good year to stop.   ::)

Yeah, if that turns out to be true, that's just nuts.  The past couple years have been pretty heavy with releases, but if all this holds out, this might be what breaks a lot of collectors and start people on reconsidering their collecting habits.  Personally, I picked up the original Gunship and haven't picked up another one since (although Clone Wars was tempting) - so I'll be passing on all three, but I feel for those who like to have at least one of everything.  I mean, we could be spending a small fortune on vehicles alone - BMF, AT-TE, B-Wing(s), Gunship(s), V-19, Spider Droid, A-Wing, not to mention all the other new Clone Wars ships/re-releases (ARC, Jedi Starfighters, Grievous Fighter, etc.)  Yikes.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 7, 2008, 04:01 PM
The second I saw all those other decoes on Gunships in the background of the WM Gunship's box, I knew they were gonna put the others out.  It was inevitable. 

Talk about breaking a mold...  That thing is going to get destroyed.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on July 7, 2008, 06:00 PM
Well to be honest I am very interested in seeing what the repaints look like.  I  like the Gunship quite a bit and would not mind having another one.  If there is a really cool repaint I like I will be tempted to get it.  I probably won't because I NEED to snag the Falcon, AT-TE and Spider Droid first and foremost. 

Besides I think they are aiming these at kids/people that don't have one yet.  These never do stay on the shelves that long that I have noticed.  We may be surprised who does not have one yet.  Parents that scoff at the $100 AT-TE and $150 Falcon may relent and go for the $45 Gunship instead.  Which is a pretty darn cool toy in it's own right. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on August 15, 2008, 09:20 PM
Hasbro confirms General Whorm Loathsom!  ;D


From, http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=192.30 (http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=192.30)

2. Will we be getting a figure of General Whorm Loathsom in the Clone Wars line?

Hasbro - Why yes, yes you will.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: speedermike on August 15, 2008, 09:46 PM
OK-so now we've seen it, what do we want?
 ;)

1. Scout Clones-Very Cool
2. Laothsome (see above) maybe he'll come with that odd little bunny robot.
3. Jabba's Translater droid (3PO repaint, maybe with confirmed CW Jabba?)
4. Spy Droid/Death Star Droid...
5. Soda Can droids
6. Clone in white dress Military outfit
7. Jabba's Gaurds...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on August 15, 2008, 10:04 PM
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2. Laothsome (see above) maybe he'll come with that odd little bunny robot.


That and a cup of "Liquid." :D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on August 15, 2008, 10:22 PM
I have some stuff in mind...


Basic Figures

Wave Idea #1

Mace Windu
Kit Fisto
Chancellor Palpatine
Luminara Unduli
General Whorm Loathsom w/Droid Assistant
Clone Scout Trooper
Twi'Lek Dancer
R2-KT

Wave Idea #2
Admiral Yularen
Clone Officer
Nute Gunray
Ree-Yees
Nikto Palace Guard w/"Returning Bounty Hunters"
Jawa 2-pack
Jabba's Interpreter Droid
Ventress' Spy Droid

Deluxe Figures

Jabba the Hutt
Ziro the Hutt
Battle Droid 2-pack
Spider Droid
Count Dooku w/Speeder Bike
Asajj Ventress w/Vulture Droid

Large Vehicles

Tri-Droid
Republic Cannons
Jabba's Sail Barge


I'm sure I'll think of more. :)


Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on August 15, 2008, 10:33 PM
Wat Tambor
Battle Droid Commander
Geonosis colored Battle Droid
Retail Droid (Sheild Generator Protector Droid)
501st Trooper with Jet Pack.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on August 16, 2008, 01:12 AM
This kinda refers to David's post, but I think the giant Tri-Droid and the Clone Heavy Gun would make excellent $20 vehicles. I have a question for the guys in the toy business... How difficult would it be for Hasbro to up-size a mold? The Tri-Droid figure is pretty detailed now, but I'm wondering if Hasbro could just quadruple its size and package it in the $20 assortment fairly cheaply... or would they have to make an all new mold/droid?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 16, 2008, 11:26 AM
There's a lot that could be done with simple repaints in this line, so I'm fully expecting Hasbro to crank some of them out early next year, if not sooner.  They got the Clone Commander/Clone Pilot/Shocktrooper repaints into the ROTS line pretty quickly after release, so I wouldn't be shocked if some of these started showing up before the end of this year as running changes.

On that train of thought...

-Battle Droid Commander
-Battle Droid Security (from Ziro's)
-IG-series Assassin Droid (from Ziro's)
-Clone Trooper (with jetpack)
-R4-P17
-TC-70 (Jabba's Protocol Droid)

And as far as "new" basic figures...

-Kit Fisto
-Luminara Unduli
-Mace Windu
-General Loathsom and his Bunny Droid
-Clone Scout Trooper
-Holographic Darth Sidious
-Nute Gunray
-Clone AT-TE Gunner

And I would LOVE to have an upscaled Tri Droid in the starfighter assortment, or even as part of an Ultimate Battle Pack.  Heck, if the rumored UBP for this Christmas included an upscaled Tri Droid, the "forward command base", and several Battle Droids and jetpack Clones, I'd be on board in the blink of an eye. 

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on August 16, 2008, 11:51 AM
This kinda refers to David's post, but I think the giant Tri-Droid and the Clone Heavy Gun would make excellent $20 vehicles. I have a question for the guys in the toy business... How difficult would it be for Hasbro to up-size a mold? The Tri-Droid figure is pretty detailed now, but I'm wondering if Hasbro could just quadruple its size and package it in the $20 assortment fairly cheaply... or would they have to make an all new mold/droid?

I've always been told it's easier to downsize a figure than it is to upsize, for a variety of reasons.  I'm sure the safety standards change a little as certain Tri-Droid parts become more (or less) breakable as they get bigger, plus they'd probably want to integrate more (and by more, I mean any) action features in to it.   

I think (can someone back me up?) Hasbro confirmed the fact that the existing Tri-Droid was too small per ROTS and they had no plans to give it another go at a larger scale at this time.  What would be more likely-- and also unlikely-- is one of the knock-off "Made in China" toy companies that sells to Big Lots would bootleg it and upsize it, like they do with a number of Transformers toys.  But I have to say, I honestly don't remember the last time I saw a new bootleg Star Wars figure.  Maybe during Episode I?  If there were Saga or other KOs, I'm totally blanking.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JDH1173 on August 17, 2008, 07:35 PM
Saw the movie this weekend.  I don't know why the big guns are not out already, but I see them coming soon. The funky b-wing type ship could be cool.  I want jump pack troopers, but not the anim format. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Theo Zissou on August 17, 2008, 08:10 PM
those Scout Clones have a really cool design. hopefully those are in the next wave. Mace windu would be on my list. Kit fisto. hopefully when the tv series starts they open it up with more new jedi and dark side warriors.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: iFett on August 18, 2008, 11:26 AM
Me thinks we're going to be getting tons of holo figures if this line holds out based on how many were in the "movie"
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on August 23, 2008, 09:19 AM
I was just looking through the "10 Things to Spot in the Clone Wars" feature at the Official Site, and the first on the list is the "Senate Commandos" seen in the background of the movie.  They have a close up shot available in the feature (http://www.starwars.com/kids/read/cwspotter20080822.html?page=2) as well.  It looks like the Senate guards are ready for action now.  They would make pretty nifty figures though.

(http://www.starwars.com/img/kids/read/cwspotter20080822/senate_command02.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on August 23, 2008, 11:40 AM
I want the medical droid bartender with the bow tie! :D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 23, 2008, 03:19 PM
Those Senate Guards are pretty cool looking. Not quite sure what the significance is of the left shoulder/upper-arm armor piece, but otherwise, it's very clone-like.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on August 29, 2008, 10:17 AM
Dan Curto's rumor list on the podcast this week at www.rebelscum.com

Next Wave: (After the MagnaGuard Wave)
Gree
Yularen
Fisto
Windu
Ahsoka (Different Version)
Whorm Loathsom (Confirmed by hasbro already)

Upcoming:
20 point articulated Clone Trooper
Luminara
Grievous (Different Version)
Aayla
Bly
Jabba
Jawa
Battle Droid Repaints
Palpatine

Possible deluxe wave Includes build a environment pieces!

Upcoming Vehicles:
Magnaguard Fighter (Confirmed by Hasbro already)
Clone Wars AT-AT typle vehicle

Possible Playset in the future:
Forward Base Alpha - Somehow compatible with the AT-TE and Gunship
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on August 29, 2008, 11:15 AM
Anyone think we'll see a repaint of the already release R2-D2 as R2-KT?  A lot of JDers caught a droid that looked an awful lot like the 501st tribute/Make a Wish tribute figure in the Movie.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on August 29, 2008, 02:30 PM
I heard in that same podcast that Curto mentioned rumors of realistic-styled figures of Ahsoka, Anakin and Obi-Wan will be part of a "realistic" Clone Wars wave in 2009.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on August 30, 2008, 12:10 PM
Where was Loathsom confirmed? :D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on August 30, 2008, 02:33 PM
Where was Loathsom confirmed? :D

http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=192.30
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on August 30, 2008, 04:49 PM
Cool, thanks Rune. :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on September 1, 2008, 12:54 PM
More rumors from Curto,

 Rebelscum Forums (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3388727&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=1&fpart=&vc=1&PHPSESSID=)

AT-CT (a new vehicle? this may be the AT-AT-type vehicle I mentioned in the show)
R2-KT (this was inevitable...and a welcome addition)
Nute Gunray (Spongebob!)
TT Trooper (I have no idea what this is)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 1, 2008, 04:00 PM
AT-CT (a new vehicle? this may be the AT-AT-type vehicle I mentioned in the show)

Could this be an official name for the cannons used at the Battle of Christophsis?  With four "legs" on the turret itself, it could qualify as an "All Terrain Cannon Turret" or "All Terrain Clone Turret."  Just speculation on my part, and it would be a welcome addition given their prominence in the film.

Has there been any word on an AT-TE Tank Gunner in the animated style/Phase I armor?  I know that this was a fairly easy custom (I remember seeing it on Yakface a few weeks back), but it would be great if these were released as basic figures around the same time as the cannon (if that pans out, of course).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on September 1, 2008, 04:34 PM
AT-CT (a new vehicle? this may be the AT-AT-type vehicle I mentioned in the show)

Could this be an official name for the cannons used at the Battle of Christophsis?  With four "legs" on the turret itself, it could qualify as an "All Terrain Cannon Turret" or "All Terrain Clone Turret."  Just speculation on my part, and it would be a welcome addition given their prominence in the film.


At first I was thinking All Terrain Commando Transport, but I think you might be on to something. The walking Cannon is one of only several vehicles that I would want to add to my Clone ground force. (TX-130 Tank and a new AT-RT being the others) I enjoyed the role that the vehicle filled in the movie and it would be nice to have a dedicated artillery piece in toy form. I could be mistaken, but in a Clone Wars book currently on shelves these are used to demolish Separatist ships in a Bothawui asteroid ring... So these should be in the series.

Anyway, I hope that this 'AT-CT' doesn't turn out to be a large AT-AT vehicle. That would disappoint me, as I'd rather see a new ESB/Imperial version.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on September 1, 2008, 05:11 PM
Has there been any word on an AT-TE Tank Gunner in the animated style/Phase I armor?  I know that this was a fairly easy custom (I remember seeing it on Yakface a few weeks back), but it would be great if these were released as basic figures around the same time as the cannon (if that pans out, of course).

It was actually on GH (http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=7462&zoneid=2)  ;)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: iFett on October 29, 2008, 06:53 PM
New "rumors" from Scum:

The Clone Wars
There's another obscure Jedi that will be featured in several episodes as part of a longer story arc. Sounds like a good "kid-focused" figure here, although still no word on the identity of said Jedi...

Our spies are reporting that there will be 45 new figures next year! 36 basic figures, and 9 others mixed into battle packs, exclusives, pack-ins...you get the idea. There might be a few more, possibly by way of repaints or kit-bashed figures. At the end of the day, there should be a really good representation of the series as a whole.

Some of the early figures are said to be getting additional attention, by way of new deco changes and added articulation. General Grievous, Anakin Skywalker, and other main characters are said to be revisited with this in mind, although this is still mainly a kid-focused toy line.

While the details are still fuzzy on these next items, it sounds like there might be a Dwarf Spider Droid in the works, as well as a "1138" character?

And do you have all of your Commander Cody variants? Here's a rundown of the various changes for you carded completists out there:

Blue Card, Clean Body, With Scar
Blue Card, Clean Body, No Scar
Blue Card, Dirty Body, With Scar
Black Card, Clean Body, With Scar
Black Card, Clean Body, No Scar
Black Card, Dirty Body, With Scar
Black Card, Dirty Body, No Scar
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on October 31, 2008, 10:24 AM
The 1138 character is no doubt Commander Bacara.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: DoctorPadawan on November 1, 2008, 01:38 PM
The 1138 character is no doubt Commander Bacara.

Just throwing this out there, but there is also mention of a "1138" Battle Droid in The Clone Wars: The Visual Guide (which I'm getting quite a bit of mileage out of today for some reason).  Apparently BD 1138 encounters something that screws his programming up and he has wacky misadventures or something.  I don't know what differentiates him from other BDs, but there you go. :)

So yeah, it's either a Clone Commander or another Battle Droid.   ???
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on November 24, 2008, 05:45 PM
 Super Vulture Droid (This is no doubt the Hyena Droid Bomber.)

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS16474&mode=retail

This is it in Lego form.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/lego/images/f/f3/8016_box_-_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2008, 06:05 PM
$30?  Sounds interesting, and it could be to-scale...  I just got a scale Vulture droid, and they ain't that dinky Hasbro think for sure, but an EU larger "bomber" sounds pretty neat to me.  Makes sense in line with other Sep droids having just larger versions of themselves.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on November 24, 2008, 06:55 PM
I like the nod to the TIE Bomber with the two pods (although they look asymmetrical).  I'm pretty excited how LEGO is fleshing out the armies of the Republic(AT-TE, AT-AP, Fighter Tank) and CIS (Homing Spider droid, IG Tank, Snail Tank, Hyena Bomber).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on November 25, 2008, 04:33 AM
Could be kind of cool, and its nice to see another new ship on the way regardless.  I'm guessing this is likely in the $20-ish starfighter line, as BBTS usually has the "new" ships from that line priced closer to $30, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on November 25, 2008, 11:00 AM
They also have the MagnaGuard Fighter listed, but we already knew about it coming.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS16475&mode=retail

Hopefully pictures will follow soon.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on November 25, 2008, 12:39 PM
http://starwars.lego.com/en-us/Products/clonewars/7673.aspx

LEGO's site has the MagnaGuard fighter.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on November 25, 2008, 01:04 PM
I'm not talking about the Lego one. :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on November 25, 2008, 01:06 PM
I'm not talking about the Lego one. :P

Doh, sorry, I missed that Brian changed the tack a little there... :-[
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on December 2, 2008, 01:20 PM
http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Latest_Reveals_For_TCW_119481.asp

Luminara Unduli
Clone Trooper Pilot (repaint)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (added articulation)
1138 Droid (I guess you were right DoctorPadawan  ;D )
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on December 2, 2008, 06:22 PM
I wonder if that 1138 droid is a Battle Droid or maybe it's the 4 legged gonk?

The others are kind of predictable. 

Luminara is prominently featured in the episode that debuts this friday. 

I imagine that the Clone Pilot might be Matchstick or one of the other Ghost Squadron pilots.

As for Obi-Wan?  Maybe it's a version with softgoods like the Anakin that's in the B'omarr Monastery battle pack.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 3, 2008, 08:34 PM
As for Obi-Wan?  Maybe it's a version with softgoods like the Anakin that's in the B'omarr Monastery battle pack.

I'm hoping for that as well.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on December 5, 2008, 07:25 PM
Hasbro confirms the Droid Commando for next year!

http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=11446 (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=11446)

JI: I just recently watched the Clone Wars episode "Rookies", and was introduced to the new Droid Commandos, I was just wondering if there was the possibility of a Droid Commando figure? I would just like to know, so I have something to look forward to. This question is from JI reader Alpha77.

Hasbro: Yes indeed, you can look forward to a Droid Commando in the Clone Wars figure line-up next year.

SWEET!  ;D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on May 21, 2009, 10:20 PM
It was brought to my attention that (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_RedCmdrLoose_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_RedCmdrLoose_Full.jpg) Clone Trooper Jek is being rumored/rumbled to be in a possible multi-pack with other Troopers from the original episode of the Clone Wars series (Commander Thire's picture has surfaced as well).  Click the thumbnail above there to see a clearer image of Jek, and with his appropriate brain bucket.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on May 22, 2009, 03:23 AM
Here are a couple other upcoming Troopers and Commanders loose...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_CmdrThireLoose1_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_CmdrThireLoose2_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_CmdrThireLoose3_Full.jpg)

First up seems like Commander Thire (but I forget my Clone names so I could be wrong)

&

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_CmdrBlyLoose1_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_CmdrBlyLoose2_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_CmdrBlyLoose3_Full.jpg)

The good Twi'Lek killer, Commander Bly.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 12, 2009, 08:39 PM
We got a nice loose shot of Captain Argyus with and without his helmet.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09CW_ArgyusLoose1_TN.jpg)

Head on out to the front page to check it out.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on July 12, 2009, 09:59 PM
New BP rumors from Yakface...

- Assault on Grievious Lair
- Mace Windu & Clone Troopers

Mace/Troopers makes sense like the Obi/Yoda sets, also matched up with that TRU Commander Ponds figures that surfaced a while back.

Also, that Assault on Grievous lair would be the perfect place for little fishy Nahdar Vebb! :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on July 21, 2009, 10:52 PM
I will totally buy Animated CW Bossk (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/07/21/a-new-merc-and-an-old-bounty-hunter-in-these-exclusive-star-wars-the-clone-wars-season-two-images/) when they get to him... and you just know they will.   :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on July 21, 2009, 11:18 PM
I will totally buy Animated CW Bossk (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/07/21/a-new-merc-and-an-old-bounty-hunter-in-these-exclusive-star-wars-the-clone-wars-season-two-images/) when they get to him... and you just know they will.   :)

Those images really look promising from a character/figure design. I hope that he has a fairly prominent role next season and not just a brief one or two episode arc.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: speedermike on July 21, 2009, 11:56 PM
While I like all of thos clones above, I feel kinds like..."do I own him already?"  ...all too similar to tell apart.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on July 22, 2009, 11:07 AM
Yeah, I'm all in for a CW Bossk as well - if/when they make him.  Like Jayson mentioned, I hope he has a fairly big role and not just a quick cameo.  I'm always in for more OT characters appearing in CW, as long as it makes sense.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: iFett on July 22, 2009, 11:23 AM
I'm pretty much done with the animated figs, but does Bossk even speak?  I must say that I was a little let down when I heard Plo Koon speak.  Just kinda ruined his character for me like if you heard Snake Eyes talk.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on July 22, 2009, 12:11 PM
IIRC doesn't he kind of hiss in ESB?  Hopefully they'll have his language be a derivation on that and then use subtitles.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on July 22, 2009, 12:29 PM
IIRC doesn't he kind of hiss in ESB?  Hopefully they'll have his language be a derivation on that and then use subtitles.

I hope so as well. Bossk is one of my favorite characters and I'd hate to see him ruined by the cartoon. However, Gha Nachkt (the guy who gave R2 to Grievous) was a Trandoshan and he was speaking so I wouldn't be surprised if Bossk suddenly speaks Basic.  :-\
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on July 22, 2009, 12:59 PM
I'd prefer if Bossk spoke in the same "hissing" manner we heard in ESB as well (with subtitles).  Like others have mentioned, it would just be strange if he was all of a sudden speaking basic/English - probably with some sort of an accent :).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 22, 2009, 01:00 PM
IIRC doesn't he kind of hiss in ESB?  Hopefully they'll have his language be a derivation on that and then use subtitles.

The fact that the show is on Cartoon Network and for kids makes me think if he has any quantity of lines he'll speak basic so little 5 year olds don't have to read it. We can all know he doesn't really speak basic and that he's hissing but it was translated for the kiddies. I think I'll still like Bossk and he won't be ruined.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: speedermike on July 22, 2009, 04:46 PM
Why can't he speak basic? I speak English and some Spanish.  My wife speaks Emglish and some Gealic...people, and aliens, have the intelligence to speak more than one language.  Y'know, Sci-fi and fantasy are designed to nurture imagination, not stifle it.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on July 22, 2009, 05:00 PM
I think the point is the imagination aspect of it.  Basically, whether we admit it or not, we've all conceived the Star Wars Universe in our heads based on the movies, books we've read, etc.  That's why when something comes along that doesn't agree with, or seems out of place with, the universe we've individually created, we don't like it.  So George Lucas could decide Bossk has the voice of Duane Chapman (Dog the Bounty Hunter), but that won't necessarily jive for some.  Essentially the further the Star Wars universe is fleshed out in movies, books, comics, games, etc, the less there is to imagine on our own...

So, sure, they could have him speaking basic, which will be fine to a lot of people (as David mentioned there is already a Trandoshan that does).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: speedermike on July 23, 2009, 12:50 AM
These are good points, but we must inderstand that OUR perception is just that.  It's not truth.  The element of preconcieved beliefs was one of the most frustrating things about TPM...so many people were dissapointed with the content of the movie (they didn't show this, it's not how I imagined it, this should be different) that they didn't even give the film a chance.  I think TPM is an interesting, but clunky movie, but the SW content it delivered, straight from the horses mouth, was good.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2009, 02:32 AM
On the Bossk Debate...  it's not unprecedented for characters to convey speech through context of actions or language we dont' understand.  R2's beeps and whistles, Chewbacca's growling.  These are the most obvious examples. 

I always felt EU writers lamed it up by NOT utilizing characters like Chewbacca in their writing properly.  Instead he was often pushed to the wayside.  Comics often used him better for some reason, over novel authors.

I personally feel Bossk could (and should) speak through hisses, with his words being conveyed by the reaction of those he's talking to (IE: Han to Chewbacca in the OT).  I don't think subtitles would kill children either, but I think if Bossk is working within a team, it would be easy for another character to basically interpret for him like Luke does for R2, Han for Chewie, etc.  That's my opinion, but I'm biased as Bossk is without a doubt one of my fav characters from the OT, and I'm geeked to see his "history" as a badass killer being expanded now in CW.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on July 31, 2009, 12:07 AM
As if Clonetrooper variants were not enough get ready for the Mandalorian Warrior variants.  I actually welcome the possibilities  ;D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on August 11, 2009, 12:31 AM
Obi-Wan's droid R4-P17 is coming. (http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=377c2c84dc4ee74d934459b948f5af3e&topic=19566.new#new)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on September 8, 2009, 10:33 AM
I bet this will sit well for all you Jocasta Nu "voters" out there: She has a role in the upcoming CW series, so your fervent demands may be realized after all.  ;)

(http://jedijaybird.home.comcast.net/cwjocasta.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 8, 2009, 10:37 AM
I really wish this line was not animated and done in a realistic style, they are so many great things/characters coming out of the show but I cannot collect cartoons. At least the vehicles are realistic......

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on September 8, 2009, 11:00 AM
Awesome! I hope they eventually put her in the Legacy line, and increased exposure to kids will help....especially if she'll be carrying a lightsaber like anotheR Site reported. We need more old ladies. :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on September 8, 2009, 11:40 AM
I really wish this line was not animated and done in a realistic style, they are so many great things/characters coming out of the show but I cannot collect cartoons. At least the vehicles are realistic......



Yeah, I feel just as passionately on the opposite end of the spectrum. I ONLY want the animated line. And I would LOVE animated versions of some of the "classic" figures but I realize they are separate mediums with unique content and appeal.

I cannot collect that Legacy swag because the quality of the sculpts, representations, etc is, IMHO, abysmally poor compared to the original Vintage Kenner figures. I think Hasbro does a GREAT job at reproducing the animated likenesses though.

Apparently I am part of a very tiny minority of collectors focusing exclusively on the CW line. I wish there were more of us!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 8, 2009, 11:51 AM
We need more old ladies. :)

Yes we do: ACKMENA.

Maybe she will guest star in the CW cartoon as a younger lady before she tended bar.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: therupert on September 8, 2009, 12:28 PM
I really wish this line was not animated and done in a realistic style, they are so many great things/characters coming out of the show but I cannot collect cartoons. At least the vehicles are realistic......



Yeah, I feel just as passionately on the opposite end of the spectrum. I ONLY want the animated line. And I would LOVE animated versions of some of the "classic" figures but I realize they are separate mediums with unique content and appeal.

I cannot collect that Legacy swag because the quality of the sculpts, representations, etc is, IMHO, abysmally poor compared to the original Vintage Kenner figures. I think Hasbro does a GREAT job at reproducing the animated likenesses though.

Apparently I am part of a very tiny minority of collectors focusing exclusively on the CW line. I wish there were more of us!

This is EXACTLY how I feel.  I too, ONLY collect The Clone Wars line.  In my opinion, The Clone Wars stuff is the absolute BEST stuff that Hasbro has ever done...

I knew I liked you McMetal! ;)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 8, 2009, 03:42 PM
I cannot collect that Legacy swag because the quality of the sculpts, representations, etc is, IMHO, abysmally poor compared to the original Vintage Kenner figures.

 ???
I have to respectfully disagree.
Have you looked at the vintage stuff lately? While it was great for the time they look like Fisher Price Little People from back in the day. While I can respect the love for the very kid friendly animated figures the majority are lacking in articulation and value. The Legacy line is Star Wars figures at their best. While there are few undesirables the line's never been better. I have been with it since 91' starting with vintage and have been with the modern line since day 1.

To each his own but I have to defend Legacy which is the core SW line that will live long after the animated line. I will be picking up the animated Aayla Secura and the occasional figure for the accessories. I picked Yularen for the Table, Plo Koon for the sabers, Gren Clon for the Gattling gun but ditched the figures. Gha Nuckeet, Cad, Magna Droids, IG droids and that Death Star looking droid. Droids seem to be the easiest crossovers that pass as realistic enough. Hasbro is doing a good job on everything in my opinion. The only aspects they have been sucking Bantha Balls on is the price & product delivery.

BTW - Welcome to JD!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on September 8, 2009, 03:52 PM
We need more old ladies. :)

Yes we do: ACKMENA.

WORD! :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on September 8, 2009, 05:21 PM

To each his own but I have to defend Legacy which is the core SW line that will live long after the animated line. I will be picking up the animated Aayla Secura and the occasional figure for the accessories. I picked Yularen for the Table, Plo Koon for the sabers, Gren Clon for the Gattling gun but ditched the figures. Gha Nuckeet, Cad, Magna Droids, IG droids and that Death Star looking droid. Droids seem to be the easiest crossovers that pass as realistic enough. Hasbro is doing a good job on everything in my opinion. The only aspects they have been sucking Bantha Balls on is the price & product delivery.

BTW - Welcome to JD!

Fair enough, bro. It takes all types! I always feel similarly obligated to defend the CW line that frankly, is propping up the franchise right now, IMHO. I read A LOT of comments from fans in online forums that are critical of the CW stuff. I just don't get the disdain. This line is aimed every bit as much at collectors as kids, I think.

I have been collecting since the very first figures were release in the 70's, so yes, I have a personal fondness for the Kenner line. But I just think the figures were better quality back then. The same way that I feel that animation was much better before computers came along. (Bugs Bunny still KILLS any of this CGI junk) As a toy designer, I'm sure you're well aware of the production process differences today as opposed to 30 years ago. I really do not think increased articulation is a great enhancement though. To me, it offends the eye seeing all those exposed joints. It destroys the visual continuity and realism of the figure. Kenner had the right idea starting out - 5 points is enough.

I fully agree Hasbro is an utter disgrace when it comes to product delivery. I can't even imagine how much simpler and happier my life would be if they would simply announce a release date and I could walk into a store knowing it would be there on that day to purchase. If they can do it with DVD's, they can absolutely do it with toys.

Thanks for the welcome! This is one of the more robust forums I have joined recently - I love that!

Rupert - great to hear I am not alone! Keep flying the CW flag high!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on September 30, 2009, 05:36 PM
So when are we getting a Tactical Droid?  He's appeared in more than a handful of episodes and if you add up his screen time it probably exceeds some of the Jedi we're getting.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on September 30, 2009, 05:51 PM
Wasn't one shown at SDCC?  I thought it was, but now I'm not so sure on that. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on September 30, 2009, 05:54 PM
So when are we getting a Tactical Droid?  He's appeared in more than a handful of episodes and if you add up his screen time it probably exceeds some of the Jedi we're getting.

I have been wondering the same thing; I am almost positive we will get one this year since this is an ALL NEW droid variety we had never seen before last season. (That I recollect anyway)

There was definitely NOT one pictured at SDCC...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on September 30, 2009, 06:15 PM
In a Q&A session @ GH (http://galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=8033&zoneid=7) this past June, Hasbro said...

"Yes, we will be getting the Tactical Droid out there sometime within the next 12 months."

Since we haven't seen him mentioned for Fall'09, I would guess we will see him in Spring'10 if the current schedule holds... might get a peek at him at Toy Fair '10?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on October 1, 2009, 11:25 AM
Thanks Jeff, I guess I missed that Q&A, or didn't recall that question.  Very excited to get this one.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on November 17, 2009, 09:54 AM
Interesting tidbit from the latest round of Hasbro Q&A (courtesy of swcollector.com):

"A new cold weather Obi-Wan is coming shortly in The Clone Wars figure line."

I know many had surmised as much, but it's great to see it confirmed in writing. Definitely looking forward to this one... (Wave 9 maybe?)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on November 18, 2009, 09:41 AM
Adam P. at 16bit.com (http://www.16bit.com/) confirmed that TODO 360 (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Todo_360) was intended to be included with Cad Bane but was dropped due to costing issues. Fortunately, they are looking to release him/it somehow in 2010.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: iFett on November 18, 2009, 10:13 AM
Costing issues?  From what little CW figs I've managed to open so far - he seems the most skimped on IMO.  Glad to hear todo will see the light of day though...poor guy.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on November 18, 2009, 11:28 AM
Awesome. Seth Green will be thrilled to hear this!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 19, 2009, 12:40 AM
I'm glad he's coming - just hope he's included with someone else! Maybe ... Cato Parasitti?  ;)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on December 11, 2009, 10:01 AM
From the latest round of Hasbro Q&A, they confirmed:

R4-P17 is definitely coming out in 2010. No plans for Wat Tambor, Nute Gunray, OOM-224 or more Gunship pilots.

Damn, I would really love an animated Wat!

I do think we'll see a Poggle though, wish they had asked about that.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 12, 2009, 01:01 AM
I can see Barris Offee and Ki-Adi Mundi coming out soon, giving that they've been prominently featured in the Geonosis episode arc. Agen Kolar should be coming out in the "Grievous Intrigue" episode planned for January 1st. He'd also be a good candidate.  

Please, Hasbro?  :-*
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on December 12, 2009, 01:41 AM
I can see those Flame thrower Clones coming, which I'd easily buy for customizing actually. 

I could see a Zombie Clone or something happening too.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 12, 2009, 11:34 AM
I think we will definitely be getting a Barris figure - they have said that the friendship between Ashoka and Barris will continue to develop, so I don't think Hasbro could ignore the character much longer.

There were a lot of cool looking clones in the Geonosis arc that they'll probably make, but I'd actually prefer them to focus first on the cold weather clones and  the cold weather variation on Captain Rex.

I think they pretty much confirmed more cold-weather gear figures like Obi-Wan and Rex in this week's Q&A so that is definitely welcome news for me.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 12, 2009, 02:54 PM
I can see those Flame thrower Clones coming, which I'd easily buy for customizing actually. 

I could see a Zombie Clone or something happening too.

I like the flame troopers idea.

And as for the Zombie Clones ... yeah, with maybe a brain-control worm that can be plugged into the figure's nose!  ;)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on January 16, 2010, 10:03 PM
Yakface has the following TCW 2010 Vehicle Wave info:

CAD BANE'S STARFIGHTER (XANADU BLOOD)   Wave 1, Asst 5
DROID GUNSHIP (HEAVY MISSILE PLATFORM)   Wave 1, Asst 5
CLONE SWAMP SPEEDER   Wave 2, Asst 5
PLO KOON'S JEDI STARFIGHTER   Wave 2, Asst 5


I cannot, for the life of me, recall WTF a "Droid Gunship" is supposed to look like...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on January 16, 2010, 10:45 PM
I cannot, for the life of me, recall WTF a "Droid Gunship" is supposed to look like...

I am pretty sure they are talking about this (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=19991.0).  ;)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on January 16, 2010, 11:24 PM
Oh yeah, that thing I've NEVER seen on the actual show.

Bad brain!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on January 17, 2010, 11:30 AM
It was in Revenge of the Sith, and I'm sure it'll be showing up in the show soon.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 18, 2010, 01:37 PM
Yakface has the following TCW 2010 Vehicle Wave info:

CAD BANE'S STARFIGHTER (XANADU BLOOD)   Wave 1, Asst 5
DROID GUNSHIP (HEAVY MISSILE PLATFORM)   Wave 1, Asst 5
CLONE SWAMP SPEEDER   Wave 2, Asst 5
PLO KOON'S JEDI STARFIGHTER   Wave 2, Asst 5


Wow - if Hasbro turns out making Plo Koon's starfighter, won't that mean they would have to give the current figure the SA treatment + a soft-good's skirt? That 2008 TCW Plo Koon WILL NOT for the life of it be able to sit in that fighter properly.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 5, 2010, 10:34 AM
over on the RS.com main page there is an image of Cad Bane in Clone gear - yes please.  I am also liking Snow Rex, and I still don't have a Magna Guard so I will possibly grab him too.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on March 5, 2010, 10:45 AM
Interesting... even though he was apparently dropped from Wave 13, if he made it that far (photo on the back of a cardback) I'm sure they'll find a way to get him out at some point.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumors
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 6, 2010, 03:47 AM
Looky looky!

There's (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/2010/DSC01355.jpg) that disguised Bane! I like the undisguised left hand, and the backpack is a nice touch. I'm assuming the figure will include a helmet.

R.I.P. Clone Trooper Denal
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 6, 2010, 07:38 AM
I'm really confused as to why they dropped him from this wave.

I mean, it's not like the wave is already made up of 12 new figures - the wave went from five new figures to four new figures.  >:(

I can't say enough how much I HATE how Hasbro is setting up their cases.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Rumors
Post by: JediJman on March 6, 2010, 07:46 AM
Looky looky!

There's (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/2010/DSC01355.jpg) that disguised Bane! I like the undisguised left hand, and the backpack is a nice touch. I'm assuming the figure will include a helmet.

R.I.P. Clone Trooper Denal

Sweet - that is a nice looking figure.  I do hope it comes with a Helmet though.   :-\
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on March 6, 2010, 02:38 PM
I'm really confused as to why they dropped him from this wave.

Internet scuttlebutt says he was dropped due to some manufacturing issue... but that hasn't been confirmed by Hasbro.  All they said at Toy Fair was that they were pretty sure he wouldn't make Wave 13 but would be released eventually.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on March 6, 2010, 11:05 PM
Yeah, that photo array has me totally confused. Rex is listed as both TCW 50 and TCW 51. Appears to be a mix of cards...

I love the Bane figure, would have liked to have seen that included in the next wave.

How far down the line are they going to stick him though? He was not pictured with Wave 4 either.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 8, 2010, 06:46 PM
I have to wonder if he was snatched up to be a store exclusive somewhere.

Target hasn't had an individually carded figure in a while (I think the last one was Commander Fox) so they could be picking it up for that.

Same goes with WalMart - their last individually carded figure was the 501st Clonetrooper.

Since we already know that TRU is getting the Nikto Guard, I wouldn't be surprised if Target and/or WalMart were looking for a more low-end exclusive to have to coincide with the new "Shadow of the Dark Side" line launch.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 14, 2010, 07:23 PM
I was pleased to see Aurra Sing is getting a figure - I had made a post about wanting her in this thread a while ago! I hope Hasbro really racks up on Jedi characters though: Adi Gallia, Ki-Adi Mundi, Bariss Offee, Agen Kolar... Any others I missed?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on March 14, 2010, 07:43 PM
Adi Gallia, Ki-Adi Mundi, Bariss Offee, Agen Kolar... Any others I missed?

JOCASTA NU!!!1 ;D ;D ;D ;D



sorry. :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on March 15, 2010, 12:29 PM
Roron Corobb, apologies for the spelling.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on March 25, 2010, 12:31 AM
Season 2 Finale SPOILER WARNING - proceed at your own risk.  :-X

Yeah, I'm guessing that this guy (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-03-25-empirestrikes25_CV_N.htm) is a definite figure at some point... wouldn't surprise me if they've already got him slotted in one of the Fall waves.  ;)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 25, 2010, 01:21 AM
Season 2 Finale SPOILER WARNING - proceed at your own risk.  :-X

Yeah, I'm guessing that this guy (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-03-25-empirestrikes25_CV_N.htm) is a definite figure at some point... wouldn't surprise me if they've already got him slotted in one of the Fall waves.  ;)

Well, that explains the helmet and rifle role play toys. I believe it also finally confirms the new bigger, badder Slave One that will be at SDCC this year. Save your money it's going to get expensive......
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 25, 2010, 10:25 AM
Season 2 Finale SPOILER WARNING - proceed at your own risk.  :-X

Yeah, I'm guessing that this guy (http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-03-25-empirestrikes25_CV_N.htm) is a definite figure at some point... wouldn't surprise me if they've already got him slotted in one of the Fall waves.  ;)

Well, that explains the helmet and rifle role play toys. I believe it also finally confirms the new bigger, badder Slave One that will be at SDCC this year. Save your money it's going to get expensive......

my God I hope you are right cuz it makes perfect sense - this is gonna rock!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on March 25, 2010, 10:46 AM
Ugh...spare me. The coolest thing about that character is the mystery. Once you start pulling back the veil, that quality is forever lost.

I don't see how that would make for an even remotely exciting figure either. There is NO WAY that iconic armor is going to fit that little tween punk at his age, so he can't possibly wear it on the show. And what's exciting about a figure of a young human boy?  ::)

What kind of self respecting bounty hunter would take orders from a little kid anyway?

Nope, not on board with this idea...I get it's a shrewd marketing ploy, but it just seems like a cheap, easy grab for some pub at the expense of the original canon.

If they want to flesh out a character with a good backstory, please have a go at Aurra Sing instead.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: iFett on March 25, 2010, 01:31 PM
But (older) fans have been so cranky for so long, it's difficult to figure out how they'll react.

You must fall into that category.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 25, 2010, 02:49 PM
What kind of self respecting bounty hunter would take orders from a little kid anyway?

One that understands the little kid probably has Jango's entire estate at his disposal and wants a piece of it?  One that was hired and paid to be there?  I admit it'll probably be a little goofy but eh, I'll watch it.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on March 25, 2010, 04:25 PM
I was thinking similarly to Adam...  He's got his daddy's ****, so he's probably itching to get some payback during a time of turbulance when the Jedi are making themselves vulnerable by putting themselves into combat.

Not to mention he's probably got a good feel for how to counter Clones.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on March 25, 2010, 04:42 PM
Oh, I'll watch it, believe me, I just shudder at the thought of some bitter little kid making the Jedi look like a bunch of stooges. It's bad enough they keep getting punked by Cad Bane. TCW has really done a lot to chip away at their mystique of awesomeness, it seems to me.

I guess it's not any more implausible than baby Anakin blowing up the Trade Federation ship, but I can't help but long for the days when the SW heroes could actually shave and converse like adults. (Cranky old man rant over)


Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on March 25, 2010, 06:59 PM
Yeah, SPOILER is a total lock for a figure.   :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: speedermike on March 27, 2010, 03:03 PM
Here's my cranky old man rant...but mine comes from a different perspective because as I get older I get mre fed up with how negative and limited people are in their thinking...

Why would Bounty Hunters work for little Fett?  Cash.  Hard and simple.

Is Fett gooing to actually kill Mace?  No.  We know his fate.  Maybe Fett will just cause some havoc and come close.

He's just a kid!  You know what, it's really only been about 100 years that kids were treated like babies until high school grauduation.  Once upon a time an 11 year might have had a job...heck I'm reading 1776 right now, and there's a story about a 10 year old who walks 100's of miles to serve under George Washington.

Lastly, this show has never let me down.  Even the "worst" episodes are at least good.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on March 27, 2010, 03:33 PM
I'm on both sides of this.  The less Fett the better.  However, if the cartoon can do anything to remedy the fact that he went down like a punk in ROTJ, possibly by taking down some Jedi, then I'm all for it. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 28, 2010, 09:21 AM
In Attack of the Clones, Taun We makes a point of telling Obi-Wan that Jango's pay was "considerable".

So Boba Fett is one rich little kid - so I would almost expect him to have a whole team of goons at his disposal - but it would also be neat to see that team fail him and him learn the lesson "if you want something done right, do it yourself".

I think it's great that they're bringing Daniel Logan in to do the voice, it provides a level of continuity that I would have liked to see extended at least to Anakin - what? oh, that's right Hayden is too busy working on "Jumper 2" to voice the cartoon version of the only character he will ever be remembered for - got it!  ::)

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: speedermike on March 28, 2010, 10:27 AM
I prefer quality over continuity.  I never clicked with Hayden, and he was barely emotive in the films, I can't imagne that he would be a very good voice over artist.  I like Ani's voice on the show.  In fact, I relate to the CW Ani better than the movie version.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on March 28, 2010, 10:50 AM
I recall reading an article in which Hayden said he was interested in doing the voice work for the cartoon, but he was never approached for it. I think that was around the time that the Clone Wars movie came out, in which Samuel L. Jackson and Christopher Lee did voice work. So far I've been very happy with the voice work for the show. All of the voice actors match the film actors fairly well.

Anyway, it's cool seeing Boba in animated form. I'm glad they have Logan doing the voice. I'm interested in seeing whether or not he'll be wearing the armor, and if he'll actually do anything cool on his own. It's about time the bounty hunters show up!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on March 28, 2010, 01:53 PM
I wonder if this is a precursor to them continuing to use Logan for the live action show, considering the rumors that it will feature Boba.  If it ever happens, and if those rumors are true.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 1, 2010, 04:23 PM
I'd love an animated Bossk as well...good call.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: 77Skywalker on April 4, 2010, 11:12 AM
I'm just really hoping for an animated version of Barriss Offee.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 4, 2010, 11:54 PM
Oh yeah, whoever the bounty hunter was with the Shaolin hat from Friday night's TCW episode, I want at least 3 of those. COOLEST...NEW...CHARACTER...EVER!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on April 5, 2010, 01:48 AM
I'd buy all of the bounty hunters from Friday night's episode and a few turtle farmers, too. That was probably the best episode of the second season.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 5, 2010, 11:23 AM
Agreed, this was my favorite episode this year so far.

There was a lot of great toy fodder from that episode. I'd love all the bounty hunters, especially Embo (voiced by Dave Filoni apparently).

What would really be slick though, would be that republic ship they flew in on that looked like the B-Wing prototype. Include a collapsible ejection pod and I'm all over it.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: efranks on April 9, 2010, 02:48 AM
I found one of the answers at Mouse Droid (http://www.mousedroid.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5200) to be interesting.  They asked if characters such as Palpatine, Bail and Satine would be coming in the CW line.  Hasbro said no, they're not putting "obscure characters" into the line. 

I don't think any of those three are what I would call "obscure" since all three have been in multiple episodes whereas 4A-7 was only in the film, IIRC, as was Whorm Loathsom.

I also don't see how Hasbro could really use the "aggressive" or "action oriented" arguments against these characters either, at least not Satine, since they did do 4A-7, for example, Jawas, or even Yularen who is just as much of an old-guy-in-a-suit as any Senator.

Don't really care either way, because I wouldn't buy any of the three named above, but I just find Hasbro's answer to not necessarily be consistent with other choices they've made in the line.  Or, maybe it is, in a way, since Yularen, 4A-7 and the Jawas are not really what you would call hot sellers.

   E...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 9, 2010, 03:01 AM
Yularen's in a lot of episodes, so I see how he gets a pass...

Satine, they've really got that thing against female characters, even action-oriented ones, so I think that's biting her in the ass.

Not so sure on Bail.  I thought he was figure-worthy...

The line's pretty squarely aimed at kids though too, so the "rules" they've expressed int he past (Senators = boring, yada yada yada.  Female figures don't sell, yada yada yada.) probably apply doubly for a line that's pretty squarely aimed at kids.  Part of me wonders if some of those, like 4-A7 and Jawas, were an early attempt at a fan wank, and they've realized the core adult collector-base isn't supporting Clone Wars 3D enough to warrant those anymore.  *shrugs*

I have no clue though, just some possible thoughts on it...  I imagine they are extra cautious with Clone Wars, at least in the realm of obscurity and possible peg death.  Yularren's a pretty badass figure, so it's a shame he isn't selling.  If they'd made 50% of his production Yularren, and 50% a Clone head on the same body with the same accessories as some kind of running change, I think they'd have made a bigger impact with that one. :)  Love that holo-table and wish I had 30 more of them.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on April 9, 2010, 09:41 AM
Well, that completely sucks if true about Satine.  I hold out hope - remember, they weren't going to do obscure figures like Nahdar - so we'll see.  But I agree with the point that obscure doesn't really apply to these characters.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: efranks on April 9, 2010, 09:42 AM
I bought Yularen JUST for the table and I think issuing that figure with a clone head would not be a bad idea.  Unfortunately, if you read all of the Q&A this week, Hasbro has nixed all future running changes.  So they'd have to issue that type of figure as a whole new run at this point.

The funny thing with the Clone Wars line is that one of the best selling figures has been Ahsoka.  You rarely find her on the pegs even though they've put out at least 2 versions of her so far, and reissued the first version in one or two additional cases after her initial release.  

I don't find either of the Padme figures clogging up pegs either.  Both of her figures have been harder to find around here compared to pretty much any version of Anakin or Obi-Wan.  I also wouldn't call Ventress a bad seller.  As far as the female characters go, so far, they've been a hit from what I can see.  I think Satine would have been a good figure to do in her more action oriented outfit but, maybe not, since she's only been in that 3 episode run so far.

   E...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 9, 2010, 10:29 AM
Kind of a cop-out if you ask me. If Hasbro doesn't want to make those figures because they don't think they will sell, that's fine, just say that. But to marginalize them as "obscure characters" is insulting and asinine. I could rattle off the names of dozens of figures they have made that had a LOT less screen time than Duchess Satine, and a LOT less speaking lines as well. (Seriously, the Mando guard isn't more obscure than her? Puh-lease)

It's the same tired argument they trot out against making the Twilight too. "It's not an iconic vehicle". AYFKM? How iconic was Plo Koon's starfighter?  ::)

They can make whatever marketing decisions they like, I just want them to admit that they are producing toys solely based on what they think will sell, and there is virtually no correlation to the object/character's actual presence on the show.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on April 9, 2010, 10:31 AM
Four if you count the Senate Murders episode.  ;)

I'm bummed that Hasbro is so dismissive of a figure like Satine as she played a major part in the Mando arc and with having such close ties to Obi-Wan, you'd think she would be a shoo-in.

What I find more surprising is writing off Palpatine. While not the most action oriented of figures, I think he warrants getting his own release which would require little new tooling. The underlying body (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TCW/CW45/lf15.html) could be recycled from Sidious and recast/repainted in reddish tones. The head could be reused as is (with out the hood of course) requiring only that an slip on outer robe be molded.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on April 9, 2010, 11:21 AM
The funny thing with the Clone Wars line is that one of the best selling figures has been Ahsoka.  You rarely find her on the pegs even though they've put out at least 2 versions of her so far, and reissued the first version in one or two additional cases after her initial release.

No joke there.  Our daughter has decided lately that she wants a few Clone Wars figures, and we haven't been able to find an Ahsoka anywhere.  On a side note, and I'm sure it is just an anomaly, but our local stores didn't have the "regular" Anakin or Obi-Wan on the pegs either.  The only Obi I've seen is a single space suit version.  I can see why they repack those types of characters in a line like this, aimed squarely at kids, those should always be available at retail.

On the subject of Bail/Satine/Palps, I don't think it makes a lot of sense either.  Like others have said, we've seen figures more obscure than that in the line already, unless - like Jesse mentioned - those were early "tests" to see if collectors were buying in.  I can understand avoiding to much obscurity (like Senators, etc.), but I think all three of those mentioned are deserving of figures.  Hopefully we'll see them in a battle pack or some form eventually.  I have to admit, I always thought those CW Jawas would be tough to find - but I see them quite often these days (alongside Kit Fisto, Adventure Padme, and the IG Droids).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: efranks on April 9, 2010, 03:29 PM
How iconic was Plo Koon's starfighter?  ::)

Dave Filoni loves Plo Koon and Hasbro has as much as said they're going to do any Plo Koon stuff they can at this point.  Really, why else would Hasbro issue him in the CW line, have an ongoing Legends release of him and then pick him for an update in the ROTS wave for TLC (and repack him in the ESB case)?  Plus, don't forget the Target BP for Christmas.

In an Echo Base Forum answer this week, Hasbro said they were doing one of two characters (Kit Fisto or Plo Koon) from their appearance in the Dark Horse Clone Wars comic.  I can almost guarantee you it'll be Plo Koon.

   E...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on April 9, 2010, 03:41 PM
Plus there is the Koon on Speeder Bike (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Conventions/Toy_Fair_2010/Hasbro_Star_Wars/Collector_Presentation&image=Slide10.JPG&img=&tt=) in the works as well.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2010/Hasbro_Star_Wars/Collector_Presentation/Slide10.JPG)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 9, 2010, 04:07 PM
I just read the Mousedroid Q&A, and basically they said exactly what I was trying to convey...

Clone Wars = line for the kids predominantly, with very little collector interest.  And Legacy = line for both, and many more collector-targeted figures.  Hasbro's doing what they're doing because they don't feel the collector-base is there in Clone Wars to support "obscurity", and in general I think they're right on the adult-market not being there to support things getting too obscure in that line.

I think Satine hits the relatively obscure issue, plus a female character...  Ahsoka's a main character on the show, with whole episodes revolving around her, so I'm not surprised she's selling.  I think Hasbro might be a little shocked at how well since she's not one anyone sees often.  Would Satine come close though?  I see Padmes a bit, and she's more important than Satine as a character in the series (far more appearances and not likely to be done showing up anytime soon), so how would Satine fair then by comparison?  That's assuming Satine's not going to be a regular on the show.

Clone Wars is a weird one...  It's like "Collection 1" from the old days is its own separate line now, while Collection 2 is broken amongst 2 audiences.

I'm just speculating...  There's a lot of stuff to be revealed yet, so who knows.  Maybe Satine or something is a surprise up their sleeves? 

As far as comparing the Twilight and Plo Koon's fighter...  That's apples and oranges.  Different sizes/price points, and not to mention the tooling exists for Plo's fighter in the $25 assortment while a new Twilight would be pretty expensive to tool up in the first place (not that it's a bad idea for a vehicle, it just can't be compared realistically to Plo's fighter)...  repaints are just a fact of life in the hobby, as they fund other things (new things) getting made.  I actually really like Plo's fighter deco, but I won't buy because I can't keep loading Jedi Fighters up around here.  Some kid will probably dig it though, as will some adults, and maybe someday it'll help fund the Twilight.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on April 9, 2010, 04:40 PM
The answer about female characters & Senators is very telling for the Clone Wars line.  We are definitely not the target market.  And it seems that kids would just find characters like this to be boring. 

Case in point: I don't think we'll see the Senator from Orto Plutonia who played a big part in "Trespass" even though we've gotten Thi-Sen, Anakin, Obi-Wan and Rex from that episode.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 9, 2010, 05:04 PM
Good points by all.

I don't want to get drawn into the Twilight argument again, because I know from previous experience I am alone in my feelings on that one, but I will try to make the same point in a more general way.

Pretty much NONE of the vehicles they have made for the TCW line would qualify as iconic by Hasbro's standards. You could make a case for the Turbo Tank, AT-TE, and the Gunship, but outside of that it's a real stretch. I don't see how one could objectively quantify the Y-Wing or Shadow Arc as more iconic than the Twilight within the context of the show. That's all I meant, wasn't trying to diss Plo. I like Meat Curtains.

Again, fine with them not making it, just don't like the implicit disparaging of the thing as an excuse to pass on it. I'd much prefer just hearing that they don't feel the line (or economy)  can support any big sized ships and they don't feel it would be a viable option to get the price down while still featuring all the options and "playability" they would want to include. No problem.

Likewise, I wish they could just say they don't want to make a figure because they don't think it will sell. "Obscurity" is not really the proper term to use for bypassing certain characters. I think "Marketability" is the real issue.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on April 9, 2010, 05:26 PM
Not to side track the conversation, but for some reason that Cad Bane with Pirate Bike looks a lot like a lawntractor.  Are there yard services in Star Wars?  That front repulsor generator (or whatever is where the front wheel would be) just looks like it houses lawnmower blades.

Cad Bane - Killing Jedi and bagging the clippings....    :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 10, 2010, 09:48 AM
LOL...it's funny cause it's true...

That front section would also pass for a good industrial floor vac, or linoleum polisher.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on April 10, 2010, 05:10 PM
Although it is a different world these days in the toy aisle (and with everything being "collectible"), I think the CW line is being run in a similar way to the vintage Star Wars/ESB/ROTJ lines of our childhood (or some of our childhoods anyways).  I mean, we're seeing main characters get re-released throughout the year/line, we aren't getting a lot of real obscure stuff (unless they are an interesting looking alien), and then there is the whole deluxe/mini rig line as well.  That being said, I hope we see all three of the figures being discussed here (Satine, Bail, Palps), but I sort of see where Hasbro is going with things beyond that.  I do think those three are all significant enough to get figures though, but I wouldn't be holding my breath for any/many Senators, etc.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on April 10, 2010, 08:57 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Satine in a BP with a couple of Mando warriors and either an Obi-Wan or one of her bodyguards. She certainly did see a fair bit of action in her story arc. I still can't get over the fact that Hasbro is making the random Mandolorian Guard but they refuse to make Satine.

Though Bail and Palpatine would be nice to have, they aren't high priorities for me. In Hasbro's defense, they were some of the worst selling characters in the ROTS line.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 11, 2010, 12:23 AM
I'm actually pretty happy that Hasbro says (according to their recent Q/A (http://echobase.d2i.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=e2f3a28e3300ff183ca4a934afa37060&topic=338.msg1551#msg1551)) that either Kit Fisto or Plo Koon will be made in their snow gear from the Clone Wars comics In Service to the Republic story arc! For anyone who doesn't know what those outfits look like:

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/45626/878922-star_wars___the_clone_wars__7___page_1_super.jpg)

I'm actually pretty surprised that the character will be based on a comic appearance, as Hasbro had said before that that they were pretty much staying away from these comics. And I'm betting it's Plo Koon that's gonna get the slot, since he's a visually more appealing character (IMO, anyway) and he's sold through better in the line thus far.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on April 28, 2010, 08:37 PM
From RTM this week:

2) While several Clone Wars Mandalorians were shown at Toyfair, the Duchess of Mandalore (Satine Kryze) was very conspicuous by her absence. As the Duchess is the protagonist of that arc and is shown to be a capable woman when she rescues Obi-Wan, would she be considered for a figure in the Clone Wars line or is she just considered not "kid-friendly" enough for inclusion?


Answer: We will not be producing a Duchess Satine figure. Clone Wars is a line that is consumed overwhelmingly by kids, and she is not a figure that they want or care about.

So... is my money something you want or care about?  It seems more and more Hasbro wants to segregate the collector/kid markets completely.  Why I don't know.  Money is money.  This kind of thing, as a collector, doesn't inspire me to buy any of this line.



Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2010, 09:09 PM
Well, they've always segregated the line, just not so visually...  Now CW stands out as not only completely kid-targeted but completely different looking to the realistic line too, at least to us of course.  Soon it'll be packaged completely different too.

Hasbro wants your money too, I'm sure, but to them your (collector) money isn't enough to warrant the tooling for Satine, who they figure the minimums needed to make whatever profit margin they insist on meeting isn't there...  I'm sure you're not alone too, others want her.  To me it's like Padme figures, which I think they consider equally sketchy for the realistic line, and so unless the balance is there, we rarely get the odd Padme in ______ (insert gown type there).

Satine, in a line aimed at the kids 99%, is just a matter of risk vs. reward, and she loses out to basically everyone else in the pool of characters they can make.  :-\

I'm honestly surprised they even came out and have said, "No", with nothing else about it really...  I figured figures like that they'll keep "No" close to their vest and just say, "Maybe if we think she can be slotted in and sell", and just keep collectors in the dark on their actual opinion, to avoid backlash.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 29, 2010, 09:03 AM
Complete and utter rubbish.

What a smug response..."she is not a figure that they want or care about". Really? I'd like to see the market research to back that up, Hasbro. What kind of representative sampling did you perform? Feel comfortable speaking for all kids the whole world over do you?  ::)

Some schmoe in Production probably asked his 10 year old son if he was interested in a Satine figure and he said no so they closed the book.

It's like they're going out of their way to drive collectors out of this line. (What few of us there are)

How f-ing exciting was Admiral Yularen? Were the kids in your test group clamoring for that one? Yeah, his playability quotient was off the charts...guess that's why I see him stacked 6 deep in every store I go to nowadays.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on April 29, 2010, 10:43 AM
Yeah, although I'm not surprised we won't be seeing Satine (and in a way I can understand it in a "kids" line), I thought their response was a little on the snippy side.  We get it is a kids' line, but it is almost like they seem upset when the collector sites even ask about stuff like this (or they are getting tired of this type of question).  I'm one that wouldn't have minded seeing Satine as well, but I do understand it is more of a kid-focused line - plus, in these days it seems like it is tougher and tougher to get a senator/collector-oriented, etc. type figure slotted into the realistic line, let alone the animated one.  I was a little surprised they just came out and said "no way".  I could see this type of figure showing up in an exclusive battle pack or something - I know we all get annoyed with the "one new figures, the rest repacks" scenario with battle packs, but it is better than not getting a figure at all in many cases.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 29, 2010, 03:05 PM
Quote
How f-ing exciting was Admiral Yularen?

How many episodes is Yularren in though, by comparison, to Satine?  That will play a big part in things too.  I think actually, they probably look at Yularren as a big failure though as well, and that may be a reason they're not willing to make a Satine.

I mean, I figured they'd make the Clone Officers using Yularren's mold, but they seem reluctant to even go that route.  The bodies made, they're Clones...  but they are boring Clones I guess.  But still...

I'm curious to see how this line shapes from here out...  Figures like Yularren may be much less likely in the future, and Satine's perhaps getting sucked into that fate because they've got the track record of "those types" to support why it's a bad idea to produce them.

Just some possible rationale they're looking at is all.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on April 29, 2010, 03:50 PM
A quick count shows Yularen in 13-14 episodes including the movie vs. Satine's 4 episode stint.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 29, 2010, 03:59 PM
Pretty big gap.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on April 29, 2010, 05:51 PM
Yularen is a military character who's been involved in *some* action.  Satine?  She's nice to look at, but I can't see the appeal of that figure to kids.

As for the market research?  I think it's highly likely that Hasbro has kids watching episodes of Clone Wars and answering questions.  Questions about which character they would want as an action figure.  On the corporate level Hasbro does a great deal of research, both for safety purposes but also regarding a product's marketability.  Of course Hasbro won't share the info that would come from a focus group like this, but this is almost certainly the method by which Hasbro has come to their focus on Jedi, Clones, Droids and other action oriented characters for the Clone Wars animated line.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 29, 2010, 10:43 PM
I'm surprised why Hasbro so quickly assumes that Dutchess Satine wouldn't sell - the same they do with Jocasta Nu, despite high demand. I bet Jocasta could have won the Fan's Choice and they still would refuse to produce her.

If not willing to make Satine in her throne room dress, then why not in her "adventure" clothes (like the 2009 TCW Padme)? Then she would have an action feel, and could easily be adopted into the action-oriented TCW collection.

Hasbro obviously has a hard time listening to what fans really want. It took them years to decide to make infamous Ice Cream Maker Guy - and he's selling well! Not one store that I have been too have had over-amounts of this figure.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 29, 2010, 11:00 PM
Good discussion.

RE: Yularen, wasn't really trying to single him out, but he's a good example of a non-action character (kids, you can pose him as if he were standing regally on the bridge) that Hasbro has cranked out already that IMHO doesn't really fit their "playability" model. As Jayson notes though, the lackluster sales probably hurt the chances of other figures like this who have had even more screen time, like Palpatine, getting made.

RE: Market research, if they're just grabbing some random kids and making them watch the cartoons and do Q & A, that seems pretty slack, IMO. Maybe kids in Rhode Island don't like the same figures kids in Florida like. (Gross oversimplification, but you get the point) If their research was so spot on, we wouldn't see an ocean of Yarnas or Organas, it seems to me. I know it's a challenge to divine accurately what kids will buy, but that's sort of my point. They seem WAAAY too convinced Satine would be an instant pegwarmer. Maybe she would too, I guess the answer just seemed a bit snippy to me. Maybe they should just tell Dave Filoni to stop putting characters in his stories they can't make figures out of. I wonder what that relationship is like actually, hmmm....
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on May 11, 2010, 09:37 AM
Latest TCW figure rumors, courtesy of RS:

Ki-Adi-Mundi

Flamethrower Clone Trooper

Clone Trooper Pilot

R2-D2 Astromech Droid

R4-P7

Shaak Ti

Boba Fett

Embo

Zombie Geonosian

Commander Jet

Quinlan Vos

Cato Parasiti

R7-A7

Not sure how accurate this stuff is, so I will refrain from any positive or negative freakouts, but most of these sound pretty plausible. Cato, Embo, and Zombie Geonosian sound like sure-fire home runs. I don't know that we really need 3 more astromechs, but they're harmless enough. I also wish we could get a "regular" Geonosian before, or at least along with, the Zombie version, but whatever.

The one that potentially bugs me is that Vos guy though. Keep that non-TCW stuff in the non-TCW lines, please. Kul Teska is a stretch, but this one goes over the line, IMO. Couldn't they have slotted this into one of the many, many comic packs they put out over the years? Why jam him into the animated line? If they're planning on rolling him into Season 3, I'm fine with it, but otherwise it just seems like he is taking a spot that could be better used for another worthy candidate, like Bossk. (Just wondering aloud, not really looking to start an argument here) :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on May 11, 2010, 09:55 AM
Tough to complain about any of those as a majority are on various Defender Wishlists (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=20462.0).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on May 11, 2010, 10:07 AM
That's a nice list. Embo would be an awesome figure, and Shaak Ti might be pretty cool too. And I think more astromech droids are a great thing! We've hardly seen any in this line.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Hobbie on May 11, 2010, 11:00 PM
I'd love me an R7-A7, and an R4 would be great, too.  I wonder if the R2-D2 listing means that these will be an all new astromech sculpt? 

Too bad Mace's droid R8-B7 from the last episode isn't on the list!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on May 11, 2010, 11:27 PM
A Zombie Geonosian before a Geonosian Geonosian?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 12, 2010, 12:03 AM
Being that we saw Shaak Ti in the TWC Season 3 preview, I'm really glad she may be coming.

As for Cato...
YAY! ;D I had my doubts that she would ever be made being that she was only in one episode.

As for Quinlan Vos, he's bound to show up in the series at some point, probably Season 3. I'm surprised Barriss Ofee is not on this list, is it because she's coming in the realistic line?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on May 12, 2010, 09:38 AM
I'd bet anything we are going to get a Barriss Offee.

They just made Shaak-Ti in the realistic style and she was on this list, so I don't think it matters so much to them what's happening with a release in another line. Anyway, I hope not.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: 501ST on May 14, 2010, 04:31 AM
It's not clear to me how the process of selection for characters to be made is done when it's not sequential at all.

Perhaps Hasbro take GL's comment that the Clone Wars is an anthology and not a chronology into account?  ::)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on May 17, 2010, 11:03 AM
More rumors, descriptions and release date info. (http://www.yakface.com/?file=2010/may/rumors.htm) (http://serve.mysmiley.net/characters/character0005.gif)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on May 17, 2010, 08:00 PM
19543 Nikto Robino {sic} Bounty Hunters

Robonino? I am loving the sound of that!  :o

Great stuff. Hard to tell what some of those multipacks might be...re-packs or otherwise.

Don't see getting Jodo next month though, it'd be nice.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 17, 2010, 11:51 PM
Legacy of the Dark Side? Interesting. Hope it's not TCW-line-related.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on May 18, 2010, 09:43 AM
Legacy of the Dark Side? Interesting. Hope it's not TCW-line-related.

Pretty much all that stuff sounded TCW related to me...the more, the better. I'll buy anything they put in that line. Period.   :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 18, 2010, 09:48 PM
I'm hoping that the Legacy of the Dark Side is realistic-line aimed because, that way, Hasbro could pull off so many Dark Side characters without being limited to TCW. Whatever this sub-line contains could do figures like Darth Maul, more Palpatines, maybe even the canceled Darth Nihl?
Title: Re: CW speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 22, 2010, 02:07 AM
Take a nice look at the card packed in with repacked Asajj Ventress (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/2010/TCW-Asajj-2.jpg)... her battle card clearly says Todo 360! So is this a "confirmation" that we're getting him soon?
Title: Re: CW speculation
Post by: Jayson on May 22, 2010, 09:00 AM
Interesting observation. I'd say that is pretty much a certainty with that card. Question is, what else would he include? He seems a little thin as a stand alone figure release.
Title: Re: CW speculation
Post by: Jeff on May 22, 2010, 01:51 PM
Todo 360! So is this a "confirmation" that we're getting him soon?

From a November 2009 Q&A at www.16bit.com:

3. There have been rumblings that the droid TODO 360 was at one point meant to be included with the recently released Cad Bane action figure. Is this true?

A3. It is true, but we had to drop him due to costing. We are finding a way to get him into another pack, hopefully next year.


Between that answer and the card, I think it's safe to say they hope to get him out somehow in 2010...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 22, 2010, 02:25 PM
Hopefully he'll be part of a BP release, or some multipack. Selling him as a stand-alone basic figure would be cheap.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 24, 2010, 11:20 AM
Hopefully he'll be part of a BP release, or some multipack. Selling him as a stand-alone basic figure would be cheap.

That is possible - supposedly the battlepacks will include cards for the figures just like the individually carded releases, so he could definitely be in a battlepack.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 31, 2010, 03:50 PM
Yakface.com posted the following for TCW 2010. The figures in bold are the brand-new ones:

Quote
The Clone Wars Collection Wave 3
1x Captain Rex (98349)
1x Obi Wan Kenobi (98352)
1x Commander Cody (98353)
1x Grievous (battle damage) (97559)
1x Cad Bane (20955)
1x Odd Ball (20956)
1x ARF Trooper (20960)
1x Battle Droid (20961)
1x Ki-Adi Mundi (20803)
1x Flame Thrower Clone (20805)
1x R2-D2 (87664)
1x Pilot/Clone Trooper (20809
)

The Clone Wars Collection Wave 4
1x Count Dooku (98356)
1x Mando Guard (97561)
1x Cad Bane (20955)
1x Super Battle Droid (20958)
1x ARF Trooper (20960)
1x Battle Droid (20961)
1x Ki-Adi Mundi (20803)
1x Mando Trooper (25887)
1x R4-P17 (21467)
1x Shaak Ti (21465)
1x Boba Fett (21466)
1x Embo (21468)


The Clone Wars Collection Wave 5
1x Rex Cold Weather (20954)
1x Cad Bane (20955)
1x R4-P17 (21467)
1x Shaak Ti (21465)
1x Boba Fett (21466)
1x Embo (21468)
1x Hondo Onaka (29778)
1x Zombie Geonosian (25274)
1x Clone Trooper Draa (25275)
1x Clone Commander Jet (25278)
1x Quinlan Vos (25277)
1x Cato Parasiti (25276)

I guess this can be deemed as confirmation of the rumors we heard earlier this month. Cato Parasiti, Ki-Adi Mundi, Zombie Geonosian, Quilan Vos, Shaak Ti, Boba Fett, Flame Thrower trooper and Embo started off on a rumor list. A few new clone troopers have also been added to the list!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on May 31, 2010, 10:19 PM
I read this with great interest too, but came away totally confused. Didn't EE just put up the pre-listing for Wave 3? What about the Camo ARF Trooper, SA Fisto and Windu, etc?

Seems like that Yakface list would be more like Waves 4, 5 and 6, not 3, 4, 5.

Cannot wait for Shaak Ti, Embo, and Cato. Great choices on those!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on June 1, 2010, 01:31 AM
I, too, was confused. Hasbro makes it so confusing sometimes by continuously restarting the same line over and over again.

But I cannot wait for Shaak Ti, either, and I am very interested to see how Quinlan Vos will turn out. I wouldn't be surprised if Boba comes with some of Jango's gear.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 1, 2010, 02:48 AM
I'm 100% getting a flamethrower Clone...  That's one of the only CW3D figures I was really geeked at getting and figured we would.  Very cool choice there.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on June 2, 2010, 02:31 PM
Kul Teska (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-clone-wars-KUL-TESKA-loose-/180514921736?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a07871d08) up on ebay
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Keonobi on June 2, 2010, 02:56 PM
^I count 12 different languages on that card back, wow!  Is that standard for international editions?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2010, 03:17 PM
For Euro/Asian stuff, yes...  Other countries get or have gotten "tri-logo" in only 3 languages (Canada for example, which i think the three are Spanish, English, and French).

Brent or JesseVader or Dale could probably clear that up.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 1, 2010, 08:31 PM
So Yakface has a cool photo with the full assortment of 38 TCW figures for this year, including numbering. Pretty close to what they had leaked previously.

We pretty much knew the first 19, but the remaining are:

Mace Windu   CW20
Commander Gree   CW21
Battle Droid Commander   CW22
Kit Fisto   CW23
ARF Trooper (Teth Camo)   CW24
Ki-Adi-Mundi   CW25
Clone Trooper   CW26
R2-D2   CW27
Clone Pilot Oddball   CW28
Mandalorian Warrior   CW29
R4-P17   CW30
Shaak Ti   CW31
Boba Fett   CW32
Embo   CW33
Undead Geonosian   CW34
Clone Trooper Draa   CW35
Clone Commander Jet   CW36
Quinlan Vos   CW37
Cato Parasitti   CW38

Kudos to them for the info; just wanted to share since I like to keep track of all this stuff. :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on September 15, 2010, 11:41 PM
Man, great news today from YodaNews' QA, regarding the Cad Bane in Clone Disguise figure that was scrapped last year:

"Hasbro: This figure was pulled at the last minute for use in a promotion that ultimately didn't happen. That's the unfortunate part. The good news is that we are close to getting him into a mainline Battle Pack in the back half of 2011. It's a cool figure and we can guarantee that he will come out some day. "

I am really looking forward to this, kind of an offbeat choice but seemed to be well-executed. Will he come with a wearable helmet too? Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 16, 2010, 12:08 AM
Hasbro also revealed Savage Oppress is on tap for May 2011. It is pretty far away, but they're already so far into the TCW line that it makes sense.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on September 27, 2010, 09:45 AM
Gotta love this latest rumor list from RS:

RUMORS:
Aqua Droid
Barriss Offee
Captain Rex with Jetpack
Clone Commander Wolfe
Clone Trooper 7 ARF
Clone Trooper (Stealth Ops)
Clone Trooper with Riot Gear
Echo (Sgt. Bric Armor)
Eeth Koth
El-Les
R4-P17
Red Leader
Saesee Tiin
Savage Oppress
Seripas

No, I don't need 65 more clones, but I'm loving me some Barriss Offee, El-Les, and Seripas!

Echo in Brain-boy's armor? Guess this means ole Bric will be in at least 1 more episode this season.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on September 27, 2010, 10:23 AM
R4-P17 isn't much of a rumor since his photo has been out there for a while and he was shown at CV.  :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 28, 2010, 11:10 PM
Damn I am way more excited for the TCW line now, even though I rank it 2nd after TVC. Savage Oppress and Barriss Offee are my top wants. Not that I particulary wanted El-Les, but I know some people want him. It was a matter of time before we heard Saesee Tiin and Agen Kolar making the cut.   
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: 77Skywalker on November 16, 2010, 11:21 PM
I'm hoping that next year, they release a figure of Barriss Offee.  That is a must.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on November 27, 2010, 01:37 PM
This list supposedly from Wal Mart's computers was posted over at SSG:

Hasbro's Star Wars Clone Wars 2011 Line-up:

(* means they have been previously released)

*Commander Gree
*Rex Cold Weather
*Cad Bane
*Odd Ball
Commander Jett
R7-A7
*Hondo Onaka
*Obi-Wan Kenobi
Heavy in Training Armor
Eeth Koth
Bariss Offe
Red Leader
Clone with Riot Gear
Clone Wolf
El-Les
Aqua Battle Droid
Saesee Tinn
Clone Trooper R7
*Plo Koon
Savage Oppres
Stealth Ops Clone
*Kit Fisto with Gear
Seripas
Rex with Jet Pack

I assume the Bane and Obi are the new versions we've already seen.  I also kind of think Plo Koon and Kit Fisto are probably new in some way.  Not a bad list, especially considering Seripas is on it.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 27, 2010, 02:10 PM
What an impressive list! Wow! The only thing, though, is that Hasbro said Savage isn't coming until May (I think?), which is a disappointment since the episodes centered on him start airing in early January.

I'm curious as to how they'll handle Seripas, since he's such a big guy. But it's nice that they'll be making a figure of him.

Stoked for Barriss and Saesee Tiin, I'm guessing he'll probably make it in May as well, since he's in the Savage episodes.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on November 27, 2010, 08:26 PM
Yeah, that's more or less exactly what I had posted earlier, so no surprises, but good to hear additional confirmation.

They are wrong on Obi-Wan though - that is a new figure, not a repack.

Curious they would have Oppress out before new look Ahsoka and Anakin though. I would think they would show up sometime next year at least.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on November 27, 2010, 08:40 PM
I'm betting this list probably isn't in the order of release so who know who will come in what wave and if all the figures will even make it out. I'm liking the list for sure though.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: David on December 6, 2010, 09:37 PM
*Plo Koon
*Kit Fisto with Gear


Hmmmm....seeing these names show up again makes me think of one of the Q&A sessions we had earlier in the year over at Echo Base (http://www.echobaseforums.com):


Quote
ECHO BASE FORUMS: In the last session you said that although it is unlikely we will see figures of characters from the Clone Wars online comic, you would consider other sources, and you specifically mentioned the Dark Horse Comics Clone Wars series. So we'd like to point out the appearances of Kit Fisto and Plo Koon in the In Service of the Republic story arc, in very cool (no pun intended) cold weather gear. With the popularity of the "Trespass" episode of the TV series among kids and collectors and the recent inclusion in the line of Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Rex in their cold weather gear, would you consider making those unique versions of these two fan-favorite Jedi?

HASBRO: You hit the jackpot.  We are well aware of those issues, a truly classic story that would have been very welcome on the big screen.  At least one of the Jedi will be finding their way to the line based on their appearance in the comic.  It's possible that more characters could show up as well, but right now we only had a slot for one.


I dunno, I guess it's possible we could be seeing one of these Jedi in their cold weather gear from the comics. (I hope it's Kit Fisto)  ;)

Oh, and that Captain Lock figure looks great! Very cool deco!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 12, 2010, 02:23 PM
*Plo Koon
*Kit Fisto with Gear


Hmmmm....seeing these names show up again makes me think of one of the Q&A sessions we had earlier in the year over at Echo Base (http://www.echobaseforums.com):


Quote
ECHO BASE FORUMS: In the last session you said that although it is unlikely we will see figures of characters from the Clone Wars online comic, you would consider other sources, and you specifically mentioned the Dark Horse Comics Clone Wars series. So we'd like to point out the appearances of Kit Fisto and Plo Koon in the In Service of the Republic story arc, in very cool (no pun intended) cold weather gear. With the popularity of the "Trespass" episode of the TV series among kids and collectors and the recent inclusion in the line of Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Rex in their cold weather gear, would you consider making those unique versions of these two fan-favorite Jedi?

HASBRO: You hit the jackpot.  We are well aware of those issues, a truly classic story that would have been very welcome on the big screen.  At least one of the Jedi will be finding their way to the line based on their appearance in the comic.  It's possible that more characters could show up as well, but right now we only had a slot for one.

Wow, I had forgotten about those! I wonder if Hasbro will make both.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on January 12, 2011, 10:16 AM
So RS apparently has pics in their forum section showing the forthcoming TCW Barriss Offee, El-Les, and Captain Lock, who may be a K-Mart exclusive.

Of course I cannot access their forums here at work, so I cannot comment beyond that, but I am super psyched to see these when I get home tonight.

The pre Toy Fair leaks have begun!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: iFett on January 12, 2011, 10:30 AM
(http://img208.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20110112/18/55214677201101121815482267400239567_000.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 12, 2011, 10:45 AM
thanks for the pic ifett!  El Les looks great!  Barriss looks great too, but I think I will just get the main line version of her.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on January 12, 2011, 10:46 AM
Yeah, thanks a lot dude!!! That is awesome.

I spy with my little eye, on the back row, something that begins with "Commander Jet"!  ;D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 12, 2011, 10:56 AM

I spy with my little eye, on the back row, something that begins with "Commander Jet"!  ;D

is he the one with the genosian?

edit:  nm - google images says - yes!

I thought he was supposed to be single carded?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on January 12, 2011, 11:01 AM
Yeah, thanks a lot dude!!! That is awesome.

I spy with my little eye, on the back row, something that begins with "Commander Jet"!  ;D

That's not Jet. It's one of his Special Ops Troopers (http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/hasbro/20101117/target2.html).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on January 12, 2011, 11:17 AM
That's not Jet. It's one of his Special Ops Troopers (http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/hasbro/20101117/target2.html).

Oops, looks like I need to get my glasses checked.

No longer excited.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: speedermike on January 12, 2011, 03:06 PM
Is that Nikto guard part of next year's regular line?

Great figure, but does anyone who really wants him actually need him?  My TRU is still flooded with him.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on January 12, 2011, 03:11 PM
Is that Nikto guard part of next year's regular line?

Great figure, but does anyone who really wants him actually need him?  My TRU is still flooded with him.


No, I believe this person is from China so they might have just picked up the figure along with his "new" figure haul.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on January 12, 2011, 08:32 PM
I'm loving El Les, and will pick that figure up for sure.  The aliens always look like they can be bs'd, sometimes with a little work, to look realistic.  I love that.  In Aurra Sing's case and the Deluxe Bane's they're pretty perfect as-is.

El Les was a cool character too so I'll dig having a figure of him around.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on January 13, 2011, 09:54 AM
Can anyone make out the numbering for Barriss, Ob-Wan, Hevy or El-Les? I can almost squint and see Barriss', but I'm giving myself a migraine.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on January 13, 2011, 10:36 AM
Can anyone make out the numbering for Barriss, Ob-Wan, Hevy or El-Les? I can almost squint and see Barriss', but I'm giving myself a migraine.

-CW40 Obi-Wan Kenobi (updated character model)
-CW41 Clone Trooper Hevy
-CW42 Cad Bane w/TODO-360
-CW43 R7-A7
-CW44 Ahsoka (updated character model)
-CW45 Anakin Skywalker (updated character model)
-CW46 Aqua Droid
-CW47 El-Les
-CW48 Clone Commander Wolffe
-CW49 Riot Contol Clone Trooper
-CW50 Barriss Offee
-CW51 Eeth Koth
-CW52 Clone Commander Colt

Pics over in Sandtroopers (http://www.sandtroopers.com/smf/index.php?topic=14247.msg267807#msg267807) forums
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on January 13, 2011, 07:56 PM
Just awesomeness.

So I'm guessing TCW 44-47 will be Wave 2 and TCW 48-52 will be Wave 3. Nine all new figures, gotta love that.

I'm really digging Barriss, El-Les, and the Aqua Droid. Ahsoka and Lock are looking pretty spiffy too.

I still want Jet though!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on January 13, 2011, 08:04 PM
So I'm guessing TCW 44-47 will be Wave 2 and TCW 48-52 will be Wave 3. Nine all new figures, gotta love that.

It would be nice if they were all bundled into one wave. Four-five figure waves aren't bad, but the larger ones are sometime better. Plus there hasn't been a large Clone Wars wave since July 2009.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: 77Skywalker on January 13, 2011, 08:24 PM
I'm really eyeing that Obi-Wan Kenobi figure and especially that figure of Barriss Offee.  Any idea when those figures pictured above will be released?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 13, 2011, 08:30 PM
Where is Cad Bane in clone gear?   :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 15, 2011, 02:19 PM
Ahsoka actually has ball-jointed elbows! I like this sculpt so much!

I don't like Anakin's head sculpt too much. Hopefully the final outcome will be better - his lips look red in the picture.

Commander Wolffe actually looks pretty cool, and I'm not very big on clone troopers, at all. The silver cybernetic eye makes him very distinctive, and I like how the figure incorporates soft goods.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: 77Skywalker on January 16, 2011, 12:24 PM
I'm anxious to know exactly when those figures will be released.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 7, 2011, 09:39 AM
Some more rumor re-hash from JTA:

•Saesee Tiin
•Savage Opress
•Plo Koon (Deluxe Repack/Repaint)
•Kit Fisto (Cold Weather Gear)
•Seripas (Bounty Hunter)
•Stealth Clone Trooper
•Captain Rex (With Jet Pack)

Pretty much all of these have been previously reported, although we got a few more details on Plo and Kit. I think that makes the third figure for each of those guys in this line. Wish they would focus on getting figures made of ALL the major characters before double and triple dipping like this, but whateves.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 12, 2011, 09:56 PM
Ummm...who is this guy:

http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Conventions/Toy_Fair_2011/Hasbro_Star_Wars&image=TF2011_StarWars_0056.jpg&img=48&tt=


Is that the dude from the new Clone and Scout Speeder Deluxe set? Why is he on Vos' speederboard?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on February 12, 2011, 10:31 PM
The people who set up aren't always up to speed on who goes with what. 

Or it's a surfboard trooper.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 12, 2011, 10:58 PM
He's not the clone that comes with that new speeder design - they are both the same sculpt, but the deluxe set clone has a red visor and the one on the surf-board has a gray visor. So I think he's something else. Maybe they are going to release a clone w/the surf-board thing that originally came with Vos.

If they have him on display though, I'm surprised there's no mention of him in the slides.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on February 12, 2011, 11:11 PM
There was a Clone Trooper R7 (or maybe it was Red Leader?) or something that popped up on a WM price list for CW figures. I'm guessing that's the figure. Looks kinda neat, but the board is an odd accessory choice.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on February 12, 2011, 11:18 PM
I'm wondering if the boards aren't going to turn up in a future episode of Clone Wars where they actually get some use.  Just speculation.  It's not uncommon for Hasbro to get early images of stuff that gets pushed out completely, pushed back, used elsewhere later, or whatnot.  They'd said at one point the Turbo Tank was to play a bigger role and that's why they made it, and then it kind of didn't play a big role in the toon that season.

It's like Ric Olie...  He was to have an expanded role in Episode 1, they got this info and cranked up his production, then poof...  Ric Olie's role was cut to comically short and awkward to a degree.  And we got to watch Ric army build himself at every retailer in the country.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 13, 2011, 11:51 AM
Yep, Clone Trooper 7 ARF is my guess too. Weird that he was not part of the slideshow. I guess he is Wave 4 or beyond?

Wish they had showed at least the next wave out, but I guess we will hear about it before Comic-Con anyway.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 20, 2011, 10:01 PM
Some interesting news out of DewbackPatrol.com:

http://www.dewbackpatrol.com/ToyFairHasbroQA2011.html

"There will be multiple versions of Savage coming out with different outfits.  There will be multiple figures from the last two story arcs [The Night Sisters and The Mortis Trilogy]."

Hell yes.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 21, 2011, 04:31 AM
Hell yes.

I'm with you there, Savage is just such a cool character. It'll be interesting though to see if he gets both the lightsaber and the vibro-axe in the same basic figure release, or if there if each weapon will come with individual sculpts.

He had 2 different outfits in the Nightsisters Trilogy, right? I reckon we'll get a "Dooku's Apprentice" version (w/ armor and lightsaber), and a "Pre-Freakishly Mutated" version.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 21, 2011, 01:47 PM
"There will be multiple versions of Savage coming out with different outfits.  There will be multiple figures from the last two story arcs [The Night Sisters and The Mortis Trilogy]."

Well that seems like a no brainer - especially on the Mortis Trilogy. That trilogy opened the doors for a CW 3D-style version of Qui-Gon Jinn and to some degree Darth Vader. I think the father and his two children would also make great looking figures.

As for the Night Sisters Trilogy, the head Sister (I can't recall her name) and Nightsister "Ninjas" (for lack of a better description) would also make excellent figures, as well as open the door for a unique version of Ventress.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on February 21, 2011, 09:35 PM
Yeah, all of those are a lock.  The Citadel story is figure city, too.  Tarkin, Echo and Five Arc Troopers, Even Piell, and carbonite versions of everybody.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 22, 2011, 01:24 AM
As for the Night Sisters Trilogy, the head Sister (I can't recall her name) and Nightsister "Ninjas" (for lack of a better description) would also make excellent figures, as well as open the door for a unique version of Ventress.

I'm crossing my fingers for new sculpts for both of Asajj's new outfits (revised gray jumpsuit/skirt outfit and Nightsister outfit), but being that she's a female character, I wouldn't be surprised if Hasbro only made the Nightsister outfit, being that she wore it more throughout the arc.

Qui-Gon's also pretty high on my list too, Hasbro can even pull off doing Vader in animated style for a convention exclusive if they choose not to do basic figure format.
 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on February 25, 2011, 01:22 PM
From StarWars.com's story on the 2012 packaging...

Quote
Cheregotis: "There will not be a variant for Clone Wars packaging. We always try to keep one brand look for all segments of the property, and in this case, the use of Maul is especially fitting given the introduction of Savage Opress in The Clone Wars and his quest to find Maul."

Hmm...  so Savage is searching for Maul... and Maul is ending up on the CW 2012 packaging.  Anyone else think that's pretty much a guarantee that Savage is going to be finding Darth Maul in Season 4 of the animated series?  Or an animated series Maul finding his way into the line?  :D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 25, 2011, 03:20 PM
Let him rest in peace, I say.

The sucky thing about this reboot is we will probably be back to at least two of the lines sharing the same packaging look, and we all know how careful big box toy section employees are about differentiating between the various sub-lines.

I've really enjoyed having three separate packaging styles for the three lines. You don't get overflow clutter from other pegwarmers.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 25, 2011, 08:15 PM
It's going to be really weird having Maul as the face of TCW toys - he's not even in the show (not yet, at least). I love his character though, and I would love to see this look carried over to realistic figures once TVC is done with.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on April 4, 2011, 12:41 PM
New rumor list from Jeditemplearchives.com

CW60: Osi Sobeck
CW61: Even Piell
CW62: Captain Keeli
CW63: K2-B4 (Citadel Tactical Droid)
CW64: ARC Trooper Fives
CW65: Citadel Commando Droid
CW66: ARC Trooper Echo
CW67: Adi Gallia
CW68: Captain Wilhuff Tarkin
CW69: OOM-10 (With Reprogrammed Battle Droid)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 4, 2011, 03:50 PM
TWO FULL WAVES FROM THE CITADEL ARC?!! That's craaazy.

Some great figures in there to be sure, but that numbering seems sketchy. I mean, how far off are they going to push Savage Oppress? Not to mention Aayla, Hondo, Commander Jet, etc.

Seems like those waves would put us well beyond SDCC. And the Oppress arc was way before the Citadel.

Good stuff though...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Captain Piet on April 4, 2011, 05:38 PM
TWO FULL WAVES FROM THE CITADEL ARC?!! That's craaazy.

Some great figures in there to be sure, but that numbering seems sketchy. I mean, how far off are they going to push Savage Oppress? Not to mention Aayla, Hondo, Commander Jet, etc.

Seems like those waves would put us well beyond SDCC. And the Oppress arc was way before the Citadel.

Good stuff though...

I don't buy it. It is Wookieepedia, after all.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scott on April 4, 2011, 11:46 PM
Yeah someone posted that list on Wookiepedia last week...I guess that is passing for rumors these days
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on April 5, 2011, 12:45 AM
Wait...  I'm confused here, so pardon my ignorance, but this was on Wookieepedia before it was on a website?  Huh?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on April 5, 2011, 12:22 PM
Seems to straightforward to have that many from that one story. Also, the implied battle droid two-pack (OOM and droid) for Clone Wars sounds too good to be true.

I'd believe Echo, maybe Gallia. Keeli is so so, an easy repaint but they aren't making the characters he was seen with (But then they made Mando cop and Satine, etc, so that's probably irrelevant). Speaking of such, I'd expect Greedo to be made before they got around to Citadel characters, ones that require new tooling, anyway. And the Mortis folks, too...but I'm thinking too much in order of episode aired.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: ysalamir on April 6, 2011, 12:48 PM
Seems to straightforward to have that many from that one story. Also, the implied battle droid two-pack (OOM and droid) for Clone Wars sounds too good to be true.


I dunno, the Clone Wars Battledroid is about the most worthless figure out there. It's a stretch to pay retail for two of them. That's the least they could do to put 2 in there. After all the Legends 2 -pack is a great value with the superior articulated BD that first came out in the Target Order 66 packs. Too bad we can't get them in tan as of yet.
I'm reluctant to buy another CW Battledroid. It needs an up-grade like most CW figures are getting.

I'm looking forward to most of the other rumored figures.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on April 16, 2011, 06:04 PM
Latest rumors from Rebelscum and Jedi Temple Archives
Quote
The Clone Wars
Based on the popular TV show, here are a pair of exclusives from the show:

Commander Blackout Figure

Assassin Spider Droid & Clone

The Vintage Collection...(possibly the "Shadows of the Dark Side")

Video Game 5 Figure Pack

Trench Run Scene Pack

Basic figures:

CW70: Clone Trooper Corporal Comet
CW71: Chewbacca
CW72: Sugi
CW73: ARC Trooper Commander (Yellow)
CW74: Tarfful

Batltlepacks:
Delta Squad (Boss, Fixer, Scorch, Sev)
Maridun Defense (Commander Bly, Lok Durd, Tee Watt Kaa, Wag Too)
Kamino Leaders (Commander Colt, ARC Trooper Commander, ARC Trooper Captain, ARC Trooper Lieutenant)
Vassek Infiltration (Kit Fisto, Commander Fil - other figures unknown)

Batle pack list sounds the most like fanboy daydreaming. Revisit a season one 2-parter with 3 all new figures, and no main characters included?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 16, 2011, 07:04 PM
Commander Jet already! WTF?

Not complaining about any line-up with Sugi though, that is pure awesome-sauce.

Agreed the BP's sound too good to be true.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 24, 2011, 06:49 PM
When is Hasbro putting Savage on a basic figure card? ??? To be honest, I'm surprised we're getting Chewbacca before Savage! Maybe he'll be in some sort of exclusive?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on April 24, 2011, 09:01 PM
When is Hasbro putting Savage on a basic figure card? ??? To be honest, I'm surprised we're getting Chewbacca before Savage! Maybe he'll be in some sort of exclusive?

If previous rumorings were true, Oppress should be out in the wave following the Barriss Offee/Eeth Koth wave. (CW 54)

Would hope to see that wave before SDCC.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 25, 2011, 08:56 PM
Cool, thanks for that bit of info. Hopefully that's true, I want Savage already!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on May 17, 2011, 04:52 PM
Rebelscum has pictures (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Figures_From_The_Clone_Wars_Confirmed_138238.asp) of the Battle Pack Echo (501st) and a cold weather Plo Koon from a cancelled comic pack. I did not know Clone Wars style comic packs were ever planned.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on May 17, 2011, 07:51 PM
That actually makes more sense, I always thought it was weird that they would do CW figures from comics, but if it was actually planned as part of the comic pack line and not some kind of single carded figure, I could see it. Sounds like they would have paired this with cold weather Kit Fisto, who I guess we will also see eventually.

Thinking Echo is from one of those new BP's revealed recently...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 17, 2011, 08:56 PM
Rebelscum has pictures (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Figures_From_The_Clone_Wars_Confirmed_138238.asp) of the Battle Pack Echo (501st) and a cold weather Plo Koon from a cancelled comic pack. I did not know Clone Wars style comic packs were ever planned.

No, I don't think Hasbro ever planned for TCW-themed Comic Packs - this version of Plo Koon is actually from a comic book miniseries for TCW. I'm surprised they even made this figure, especially since it'll be interesting to see what the figure's packaging looks like. Maybe there'll even be an episode using this character model. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on May 18, 2011, 12:37 AM
New rumor list from Jeditemplearchives.com

CW60: Osi Sobeck
CW61: Even Piell
CW62: Captain Keeli
CW63: K2-B4 (Citadel Tactical Droid)
CW64: ARC Trooper Fives
CW65: Citadel Commando Droid
CW66: ARC Trooper Echo
CW67: Adi Gallia
CW68: Captain Wilhuff Tarkin
CW69: OOM-10 (With Reprogrammed Battle Droid)

And with the latest EE listings, we can chalk this list up to "fan fic" aka "weapons grade bolognium".
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on May 18, 2011, 08:30 AM
LOL, well he got one right.  ::)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 18, 2011, 09:31 PM
I'm kinda bummed that Adi Gallia wasn't on the list - I wonder if we'll ever get her. She's been on so many episodes of the show by now, and from the previews she's also set to be in Season 4. I am glad that Saessee Tin and Even Piell made the line-up, though. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Taliax on June 15, 2011, 05:15 PM
I'm kinda bummed that Adi Gallia wasn't on the list - I wonder if we'll ever get her. She's been on so many episodes of the show by now, and from the previews she's also set to be in Season 4. I am glad that Saessee Tin and Even Piell made the line-up, though.

Hasbro has said in the past that female figures don't sell, even though Aayla Secura, Shaak Ti, and others are near impossible to get now. I was lucky to buy 2 of each, and would buy 2 of Adi Gallia as well.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 16, 2011, 08:44 PM
Ok - I didn't want to start a new thread - so I thought I would comment (once again) about this here....

Hasbro's Case Assortments Suck

I was just looking at their Wave 10, 11 & 12 (what we have listed in our checklist as waves 23, 24 & 25) cases that are listed at EE and here is the disturbing break-down...

If you buy one of each case, you'll end up with 19 of the 36 figures being a figure from Wave 9 (our wave 22) or later.

In those 19, you will only get multiples of TWO figures - Rex w/Jet Pack (x2) and Shirtless Savage Opress (x3). So you are only getting 16 "new" figures total.

I'm also including in those "new", Hondo who is a re-release but this is the first time he's come out on a SotDS cardback and the long awaited Commander Jet. The one figure you end up getting from Wave 9 (22) is Clone Commander Colt.

So what about the remaining 17 figures? In that batch you will end up with multiples of FOUR figures - Super Battledroid (x2), Season 3 Anakin (x3), Clone Commander Wolfe (x2) and Yoda (x2). You will also end up with one each of Mace Windu, Battledroid, Cody, El Les, R2-D2, Destroyer Droid and the Aqua Battledroid.



What is the most shocking to me is that you end up with ANY carry-forward figures in duplicate when you don't even end up with doubles of 14 out of the 16 "new" figures in these three waves. Never mind the fact that NONE of the army builders even show up more than once.

Of course the added salt to the wound is that I could walk into a number of local stores in my area and still buy Season 3 Anakin, R2, El Les, a Super Battledoid, a Battledroid, a Destroyer Droid, Yoda and Mace Windu all w/o any effort at all. The only rehases that seem worth-while are Wolfe and the Aqua Battledroid.

When is enough going to be finally enough? Hey Hasbro, how about taking away those extras of Savage Opress or Rex w/Jet Pack and replacing them with the all-white ARF Trooper, we REALLY need more of him out at retail.  ::)

I hope that every collector who is attending SDCC reads DeRetard the riot act.

This line is going to fail under the weight of the carry-forward figures that they seem insistent on putting into every case.

What would be the harm in having more collector oriented case packs that could be sold by EE, BBTS or even HTS?

Instead of this:
1x CW20 Mace Windu
1x CW16 Super Battle Droid
1x CW19 Battle Droid
1x CW38 Clone Commander Jet
1x CW41 Hevy in Training Armor
1x CW47 El-Les
1x CW45 Anakin
1x CW55 Savage Opress (shirtless)
1x CW53 Plo Koon (cold weather gear)
1x CW39 Hondo Onaka (91285/87638)
1x CW56 ARF Trooper (Kamino)
1x CW05 Yoda

Give us this:
3x CW38 Clone Commander Jet
2x CW55 Savage Opress (shirtless)
2x CW53 Plo Koon (cold weather gear)
2x CW39 Hondo Onaka (91285/87638)
3x CW56 ARF Trooper (Kamino)

And instead of this:
1x CW27 R2D2 (87664/87638)
1x CW45 Anakin
1x CW46 Aqua Battle Droid
1x CW48 Clone Commander Wolfe
1x CW55 Savage Opress (shirtless)
1x CW57 Stealth Ops Clone
1x CW54 Saesee Tiin
1x CW60 Kit Fisto (cold weather gear)
1x CW61 Seripas
1x CW62 Rex (jet pack)
1x CW03 Commander Cody
1x CW05 Yoda

Give us this:
1x CW55 Savage Opress (shirtless)
3x CW57 Stealth Ops Clone
2x CW54 Saesee Tiin
2x CW60 Kit Fisto (cold weather gear)
2x CW61 Seripas
2x CW62 Rex (jet pack)

And instead of this:
1x CW16 Super Battle Droid
1x CW45 Anakin
1x CW48 Clone Commander Wolfe
1x CW52 Red Leader ARC Trooper
1x CW55 Savage Opress (shirtless)
1x CW62 Rex (jet pack)
1x CW63 Kashyyyk Warrior
1x CW58 Jedi Even Piell
1x CW59 Savage Opress (armored)
1x CW64 R7-D4 Plo Koon Astromech
1x CW65 Jar Jar (87957/87638)
1x CW04 Destroyer Droid

Give us this:
1x CW52 Red Leader ARC Trooper
1x CW62 Rex (jet pack)
2x CW63 Kashyyyk Warrior
2x CW58 Jedi Even Piell
2x CW59 Savage Opress (armored)
2x CW64 R7-D4 Plo Koon Astromech
2x CW65 Jar Jar (87957/87638)

This isn't rocket science, it's putting your newest product into the hands of people who WANT IT.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on July 16, 2011, 09:09 PM
I agree, and esepcially on figures like the ARF Trooper - who will be on the pegs when the line ends - give us something else.  The issue is that Hasbro, rightly, wants the main/hot characters available all the time for moms and dads and kids.  Absolutely they need to do this.  If a kid goes in looking for Anakin or Obi or Yoda, and only sees El-Les, it's a problem.  The other side of it is that the line is cooling and so is the market for figures - the line does not sell through near what it once did and all those carry forwards are logjamming.  It's a catch 22.  Stores won't order cases of 2X El-Les and 3 other backgrounders, especially when the line isn't so hot. 

Hasbro needs to refigure the cases though.  This goes for both vintage and CW.  Half and half, and rotate things.  Get as much variety as you can, keep it fresh.  Repack all you want to, but have it make sense.

Example:

Case 1:

Yoda
Anakin
Obi Wan
R2D2
Battle Droid
Clone Trooper
New Guy
New Guy
New Guy
New Guy
New Guy
New Guy

Case 2:
Mace Windu
Count Dooku
C-3PO
Super Battle Droid
Ahsoka
General Grievous
New Guy
New Guy
New Guy
New Guy
New Guy
New Guy
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 16, 2011, 09:38 PM
That is specifically why I mentioned that they need assortment ratios meant specifically for selling online to collectors from the likes of Entertainment Earth, Big Bad Toy Store and even Hasbro Toy Shop. They used to do this, I am extremely confused why they don't return to that model again.

I'm not saying that Target, WalMart or even Toys R Us want the case packs I'm advocating - let them have the ridiculous ratios that leave them sitting on 50 Anakins and 1000 ARF Troopers when the line ends.

Supposedly, when the collector-friendly case assortments ended, it was because the big box stores pressured Hasbro to stop offering them so that collectors would be driven back into the stores looking for product.

The only thing that really did was hurt the online folks. I would not be surprised to find out that they order a lot less than they used to because no collector in his/her right mind is going to order a case with only four new figures and eight figures that they could easily pick up at a Clone Wars clogged Target or Toys R Us any day of the week.

Minimally, if you're not going to carry-forward the army builders, at least start putting doubles of them in their wave. 2x Riot Control Clone, 2x Kamino ARF Trooper, and 2x Stealth Ops Clone would all have done well at retail.

I know it appears that interest in Clones/Troopers is waning but if you really take time to look at the figures that are clogging the shelves it's - Rex, Cody and the all-white ARF Trooper (at least in my area). Sometimes you'll see an odd Clone Pilot or Cold Weather Rex, but most of the other clone variants have long since sold out. Most of the time you'll see Clones no more often than you would see Anakin or Obi-Wan (especially the season 3 version of Obi-Wan).

Perhaps they need to have a standing wave that the box stores can order. This would be a 12 figure mix of the core characters that kids are supposedly going to want. Anakin, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Yoda, R2, Rex, Ventress, Battledroid, Super Battledroid, Destroyer Droid, Grievous and Cad Bane. Six good guys, six bad guys, a "play pattern" in a case.

Then every time a store gets new Clone Wars it could be one core-characters case and one "new figures" case. Limit the new characters wave to four figures each and pack them in the cases 3x each. It would appeal to both the collector who shops online AND the collector who likes to go into a store and every once and a while, a kid might actually want one or two of the figures in the "new figures" case.

Another option would be to move the "core" characters to battle-packs and mini-rig releases after the market has received the initial push of that character's figure. So for example, go ahead and put Anakin in a battle-pack or with a deluxe mini vehicle. If a kid wants Anakin badly enough, mommy will either get him the battle-pack OR the deluxe set and that kid who really just wanted a $8 item was just bought a $20 item instead.

The one thing I know for sure - it's a good thing that none of those cases I listed below contain the Season 3 Obi-Wan figure, that figure is EVERYWHERE and never needs to ship again.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on July 16, 2011, 10:02 PM
For real on S3 Obi Wan.  Instant pegwarmer.

I agree with your points on the army builders.  It's silly not to double up on figures you don't go back to in case assortments.  The online trend to buy everything there is probably affecting store sales too, but it can't be too much with SW as you said, the assortments are anti-collector.  I do think moving the core characters out of the assortments to elsewhere wouldn't work - mismanaging this aspect has hurt nearly every line of longevity (best example: Simpsons).

Great points.  Hopefully Hasbro is listening.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 17, 2011, 06:30 PM
The other advantage to those proposed case ratios is that it would GREATLY increase your chances of actually finding the new figures on the pegs. Most stores typically get in ONE case at a time for some reason, so if one person gets there before you they're wiped out and you get nothing. And then God knows how long it will be until the NEXT case shows up.

Having multiples of the new figures helps to insure that they get proper saturation in the marketplace.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on July 17, 2011, 09:45 PM
We think in collector terms. Some main players/standard army builders should reship, but not at 2/3rds of a case more like 1/3. And since new figures are usually one per case, collectors scoop them up, so there's certain characters kids or their parents never see. And that's a shame, too. It doesn't foster a new generation of collectors.

With a new Rex coming, the old mold needs to be completely retired. Cody needs a hiatus, too until he gets a new figure. And there's newer ARF Troopers, as well.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 18, 2011, 07:46 AM
We think in collector terms. Some main players/standard army builders should reship, but not at 2/3rds of a case more like 1/3. And since new figures are usually one per case, collectors scoop them up, so there's certain characters kids or their parents never see. And that's a shame, too. It doesn't foster a new generation of collectors.

The key word in your sentence above is "reship" - the problem is if you look at the case assortments starting with the Riot Control Clone Trooper wave - on top of the fact that the figure is not packed more than once in the case, the figure itself NEVER reships in a future case.

It really shouldn't be both - one shot and out AND 1 per case. The 1 per case model works only if you do something like this:

Wave 1:
8 - "Greatest Hits" Characters
4 - New Figures for Wave 1

Wave 2:
4 - "Greatest Hits" Characters
4 - New Figures from Wave 1 carried into Wave 2
4 - New Figures for Wave 2

Wave 3:
4 - "Greatest Hits" Characters
4 - New Figures from Wave 2 carried into Wave 3
4 - New Figures for Wave 3

Then at least there are at least two shots at getting the new figures. Like McMetal said - if you have a store near you and they get in one case of the Riot Control Clone Trooper wave and a collector beats you to the case, you're done.

With the line going soft like some people are speculating, now really shouldn't be the time for them to start frustrating the few collectors they do have.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 20, 2011, 07:55 PM
Ok so far at SDCC, we got confirmation of what the Mandalorian Gunship will look like, and that's about it as far as anything new. Did I miss something?

Nice to see the Flitknot Speeder again, but that dates back to ToyFair.

Artillery Cannon? Fall Waves 1-3? Good to see some new unpackaged photos, but certainly no surprises.

I think the Vintage collection on display had a little more Zazz again this year. Who saw that Trench run UBP coming?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2011, 07:57 PM
If that trench pack is "Zazz" then I guess I've maybe lost any love for the hobby. :)

Seriously it's nothing I dont' already have 10 x over, so that makes a nice boxed set but nothing I really want.  You're not alone in (so far) feeling a little underwhelmed, but it is only preview night.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 20, 2011, 08:10 PM
I know, I'm sure there is plenty of good stuff yet to come. I guess by "zazz" I mean more of the surprise factor. I hadn't heard any rumblings about a new UBP prior to SDCC so they did a pretty good job keeping that one under wraps.

The Mando Gunship is a cool reveal, but was slightly spoiled as we know about its existence before the actual unveiling. If that had not leaked, I definitely would have been wowed.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 08:23 PM
Overall there's nothing all that surprising to be seen.  But Hasbro always does hold something back for a big reveal at their panel on Friday.  If they fail to have anything worthwhile to show on Friday, THEN I'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on July 20, 2011, 11:31 PM
I know the mantra is supposed to be "females don't sell", but what are the chances that Katee Sackhoff's Female Death Watch Commando (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/07/20/star-wars-clone-wars-katee-sackhoff-exclusive-video/) does end up with a figure?  50/50?  Maybe better odds give she's a mando warrior and not an old librarian? :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on July 20, 2011, 11:35 PM
I know the mantra is supposed to be "females don't sell", but what are the chances that Katee Sackhoff's Female Death Watch Commando (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/07/20/star-wars-clone-wars-katee-sackhoff-exclusive-video/) does end up with a figure?  50/50?  Maybe better odds give she's a mando warrior and not an old librarian? :P

Yep, and that Snow Bunny Ahsoka too.  >:D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on July 20, 2011, 11:37 PM
Hasbro does love their Mando's after all.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 21, 2011, 10:33 AM
I know the mantra is supposed to be "females don't sell", but what are the chances that Katee Sackhoff's Female Death Watch Commando (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/07/20/star-wars-clone-wars-katee-sackhoff-exclusive-video/) does end up with a figure?  50/50?  Maybe better odds give she's a mando warrior and not an old librarian? :P

It sure puts their misogynistic brain trust in a bind. "She's a Mando" "But, she's a GIRL!" "But she's a MANDO GIRL!!" "AARGH, cannot compute!"

They'll probably end up doing it, a a non-removable helmeted version so you can't really tell she is female.  ::)

BTW, great casting idea...let's get Tahmoh Penikett on there too. You know Seth Green has his number!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 22, 2011, 02:43 PM
Per Hasbro, Mother Talzin is "in the parking lot"...

 :-\
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 11, 2011, 02:53 AM
Per Hasbro, Mother Talzin is "in the parking lot"...

 :-\

Well, it's a hecka a lot better than where Jocasta Nu is on their plans... ::)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on September 26, 2011, 07:09 PM
Looks like we'll be getting another member of Domino Squad as Tunghori has listed Clone Trooper "Cutup" (http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-WARS-clone-wars-CUTUP-Training-Kamino-tcw-CW-domino-squad-/260861454803?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbc8de9d3#ht_500wt_1204) for auction.

I guess I can return a few of those extra Hevys that I bought.  :D
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on September 26, 2011, 07:41 PM
You had to figure that this might happen. 

Hasbro has had some affinity for this squad dating back to the "Rookies" episode, and we've been getting some of these troops in dribs and drabs.  Echo, Fives and Hevy have all gotten to us a little bit at a time.  And there's also been the Sgt. Bric mailaway, El-Les and Shaak Ti from the Season 3 premiere.

I get the feeling that this figure might be part of a multipack and not necessarily packaged as a basic figure.  The first look we got at some of the "Brain Invaders" clones was through a similar Tunghori listing, but those are part of those WalMart exclusive 2-packs.  Plus, given the fact that we've already gotten Hevy as a single carded figure, I can't see Hasbro offering an almost identical Clone Trooper on a similar cardback with only a name change.  Maybe he'll get packed with 99?  Even though 99 was only featured in a couple of episodes, the character resonated with fans.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: TheSon on September 26, 2011, 07:50 PM
Based on the recent battle packs I think it is more likey that we see an Anakin, EL les, and Cutup. just new enough to get us to buy it, but not at a major cost to Hasbro.

It would be great though to have a 2 pack with 99 and Cutup.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on September 26, 2011, 08:25 PM
And why would Anakin be packaged in that particular battle pack?  Hasbro hasn't been quite that arbitrary about the figure lineups that they completely disregard the story/episodes that they draw upon for battle pack lineups.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on September 26, 2011, 09:08 PM
If I were to assume TheSon's thinking on that, I could see them doing it too for the sake of slipping in a main character of some sort (maybe not Ani, but someone isntantly recognizable, just to do it).

El makes sense too since he's been relatively difficult to get, and I could see them looking for a way to shoehorn him in somewhere without having to give a slot in the basic line to him.  Good possibility there if it were a multi-pack...

Could be a larger pack too though, than a battlepack, and have a couple others from the squad.  He may be one of several new reveals and little tooling cost.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on September 26, 2011, 10:29 PM
I would love to see them release 99, but it seems like it would make for kind of a creepy toy. Plus they always throw out that whole "we are cutting back on obscure characters who die quickly" stuff whenever they get similar questions in Q&A.

Cut Up looks like a winner though, however he arrives. Really cool to see this because unlike TVC, we literally have NO idea what is in store beyond the waves that are already hitting retail.

Hopefully we get some more sneak peeks at the NY gig.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on September 27, 2011, 01:31 AM
I hope it's in a Battle Pack with 99, and a simulator battle droid. (With the firefighter droids arms, and the seperatist speeder pilot battle droid's legs.)

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//600/Battle_Droid.jpg)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on October 13, 2011, 09:57 PM
Ugh, just spent the past 45 minutes trying to slog through all the new pics at SSG. Looks like at least 2 new TCW figures were on display @NYCC: a big-ass jetpack Cody and what looks to be a new basic clone trooper. Both are slated for JAN 2012. Guessing the will be the first new wave of next year, and possibly the first in the new packaging.

Yeah, the new packaging - S U C K S! They don't even identify the line as Clone Wars anymore on the package! The only way you can tell is by looking at the number on the SIDE of the card, apparently. Yeah, that won't be confusing.  ::)

It does appear that they are restarting the numbering with the packaging reset, as expected.

Both figures look pretty cool, although Cody is clearly top-heavy as hell with all that gear.

Hoping we see something else in terms of BP's, vehicles, or deluxe sets.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on October 13, 2011, 10:09 PM
Hoping we see something else in terms of BP's, vehicles, or deluxe sets.

I hope so too, but I'm not holding my breath. It looks like everything that isn't TPM (especially TCW) is being placed on the back burner.

Also, my eyes might be deceiving me, but the Anakin looks new. So there are possibly three new figures. (Oh joy)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on October 13, 2011, 10:18 PM
Looks like Cody has the same gear as the new Rex, but with a Phase 2 helmet.

http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/hasbro/p40192-star-wars.html (http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/hasbro/p40192-star-wars.html)

Cardbacks promoting the battle card game show CW Magna Guard among the mixed movie hero/CW figures, maybe they are bringing it back.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on October 13, 2011, 11:05 PM
Also, my eyes might be deceiving me, but the Anakin looks new. So there are possibly three new figures. (Oh joy)

Good eye, after looking back over the pics I think you are right. The likeness is a great improvement, IMO.

Apparently there may be a new TCW BP pictured on the back of the Geonosis set called Republic Troopers, with an actual Bomb Squad Clone in it. That would be cool. Kinda like what the Army of the Republic BP SHOULD have been.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on October 14, 2011, 11:29 PM
So here's my final tally of all the big Clone Wars reveals from NYCC:

1 Deluxe set, the STAP with Battle Droid, which they have already released twice before in this line.

1 Battlepack, Republic Troopers, with CutUp, Hardcase, and Bomb Squad Clone. Looks pretty sweet.

The aforementioned 3 new figures, Anakin, Clone Trooper, and Cody w/Jetpack, plus Captain Rex (Phase II?) and Clone Commando Boss were shown in the Hasbro slideshow.

Oh, and Wave 1 hits in January promptly followed by Wave 2 in APRIL.  ::)

No new midsize vehicles shown.

I'm ok with next year being light on TCW product, it'll save me money and space, but I do wish the stuff they were offering was more compelling than more clones and that lame STAP.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on October 15, 2011, 12:15 AM
Considering they always target the kids, they downplay the toys based on a weekly cartoon, in favor of a 12 year old movie.

There's also some confusion,  it was heard there'd be 19 CW figures in 2012. 19 new or 19 total, including repacks?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on October 15, 2011, 02:09 AM
1 Deluxe set, the STAP with Battle Droid, which they have already released twice before in this line.

I'll slim the list for you! This is actually a TPM item, complete with the same battle droid sculpt as the 1998 release.

If you want to get technical on the midsize vehicles, the Fighter Tank looks like a weathered repaint, so maybe you can add that to the list.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on October 15, 2011, 08:55 AM
Thanks, was that confirmed in the slide-show presentation? I know the placard in the display case said Clone Wars but I figure that could easily be wrong. Good, 1 less thing to worry about.

Where did they throw out the 19 figures for 2012 tidbit? Was that during the presentation also? That is really atrocious if true. They are just hurting themselves with this strategy, new TCW figures really fly off the shelves around here, aside from those stinking repacks.

I'm confused about what they're doing with the mid-size vehicles. I saw the Fighter Tank but that struck me as a realistic deco for some reason. Then they showed the v-19 Torrent, the Clone Wars one, in Vintage style packaging. WTF? Confusing to say the least.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on October 15, 2011, 08:06 PM
Where did they throw out the 19 figures for 2012 tidbit? Was that during the presentation also?

It was post on Rebelscum's live feed during the presentation.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on October 15, 2011, 10:49 PM
For some reason the folks at JTA seem convinced that this means 19 figures total for the whole year. That cannot be right. They showed nearly that many in the first 2 waves alone. I think that leaves something like 5 unrevealed figures for the rest of 2012? It just seems too incredible to believe. That's a LOT of money they are leaving on the table for their most successful line.

If you have a good thing going, milk it, don't starve it.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on October 16, 2011, 12:05 PM
For some reason the folks at JTA seem convinced that this means 19 figures total for the whole year. That cannot be right. They showed nearly that many in the first 2 waves alone. I think that leaves something like 5 unrevealed figures for the rest of 2012? It just seems too incredible to believe. That's a LOT of money they are leaving on the table for their most successful line.

If you have a good thing going, milk it, don't starve it.

I find that report highly suspect.  Additionally, I think that the info that got out is questionable since Derryl DePriest wasn't present at the con.  He's the one real source that can be counted on for some solid information.  I'm thinking it's more likely that this is what's meant to hold collectors over until Toy Fair, at which point more will be announced.

Or, something bigger could be in the works.  Such as?  A complete shift towards realistic looking figures.  Witness the new, realistic Anakin Skywalker that was on display at NYCC:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/nicklabatearthlinkdotnet/sw/NY%20COMIC%20CON%202011/DSC_0069.jpg)

This figure might be an indication of things to come.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on October 16, 2011, 12:42 PM
I was told today Darryl was at the show...  at some point anyway, and hinted at a few things actually.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 16, 2011, 05:41 PM
I think with the CW animated line, they could totally get away with only 19 new figures for the year, with the rest of the figures being re-packs of figures from 2008-2011.

I just looked through the CW figure list for 2010 and sure enough, out of the SotDS CW#01 - CW#37, only 20 of those figures were new or existing figure sculpts with new paint aps to make a new/different character.

So I could easily see, based on the slides shown, 38 figures total with a 50/50 split between new figures/characters and straight-up repaints/repacks.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on October 16, 2011, 05:47 PM
There were also several new figures available via battle packs, vehicle pack-ins and deluxe. In my opinion, The Clone Wars won't be suffering for a lack of new product. In fact, I think there will be more than this past year.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 16, 2011, 07:39 PM
There were also several new figures available via battle packs, vehicle pack-ins and deluxe. In my opinion, The Clone Wars won't be suffering for a lack of new product. In fact, I think there will be more than this past year.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, the same quantity of product in 2012 as in 2011, sure, but more? In 2011 there was more new figures than repacks because they continued to use for the second year in a row, the SotDS packaging. Every time the packaging changes, it gives Hasbro the opportunity to re-release product in the new packaging style.

So, as seen in the slides shown at NYCC, there will be a lot of repacks in the first few waves, because Hasbro seems to feel that they can get away with putting older product into new packaging and they want to build up the "library" of figures they can mix in with newer figures as the line progresses.

If you look at the figure list for Clone Wars in 2011 - you get 26 new figures/characters and only TWO repacks in the numbering sequence (Hondo & Jar Jar). Year-on-year, there were actually fewer figures in 2011 than in 2010, but a higher percentage of new figures in the number sequence.

This is one of the reasons why I'd prefer that Hasbro keep a packaging style for as long as a time period as possible. I'm really not looking forward to the next six years where every year, we're going to get a new packaging style to support each of the 3D movie releases and Hasbro will be able to get away with packing the same Cad Bane, Commander Cody, Captain Rex, Count Dooku, Anakin and Obi-Wan figures into new packaging every year.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: DarthPooPoo on October 17, 2011, 01:35 PM
Can we stop calling them Battle Packs?  They ceased being battle packs once they became 3 packs.

And since they are in such a repack/repaint/kitbash mood, it sure would be nice if they would make some Wookiee, Trandoshan, or Talz 3 packs.  They've got the basic sculpts.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 22, 2011, 06:22 PM
I think with the CW animated line, they could totally get away with only 19 new figures for the year, with the rest of the figures being re-packs of figures from 2008-2011.

I dunno, it can't possibly be right that we're only getting 19 new figures for the rest of the year.

Especially with this season, there's a whole crap-load of new figures that Hasbro can make: Darth Maul, Nightsister Asajj Ventress, Nightsisters, Dexter Jettser-type Jedi... etc. If Hasbro resumes making new TCW figures by late 2012 and 2013, it'll be well after the end of Season 4. Maybe the 5 remaining unveiled figures are special ones. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on October 22, 2011, 06:29 PM
Daryl was at the show Saturday morning at least.  I and several others talked to him at length.  19 CW figures for next year - misunderstanding.  The realistic thing though, I think they are experimenting, but I doubt we will see the animated style go away.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on November 11, 2011, 10:29 AM
From the latest Q&A at RS (http://rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_98th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_141300.asp):

"Hasbro: There are 19 total single carded Clone Wars animated figures planned for 2012. There are also 4 Clone Wars themed "mini-rig" figure & vehicle packs and 1 Clone Wars themed Battle pack planned for 2012."

That seems to confirm the "only 19" stuff from NYCC.

So...
- the one Battle Pack is I guess the Republic Troopers set they have already shown (CutUp, Hardcase, Bomb Trooper).
- the four DLX sets based on CW - do we know those yet?  There was the Obi-Wan/Shuttle and BabyFett/SpeederBike sets that never made it out this year, those may be part of the four. 
- The slide show had what, 14 figures?  So that leaves only 5 more to be revealed for all of 2012?  Hard to believe they would cut down to less than 20, but I guess it shows how much they are going to be focusing on TPM next year.  :-\
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on November 11, 2011, 10:36 AM
Hopefully one or 2 of those figures are from this season (I'm looking at you Masster Krell) ::)  :P
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on November 11, 2011, 11:48 AM
I still think it's unclear whether it is 19 NEW figures or 19 figures TOTAL. (edit: NM, I just went over to RS and they do indeed confirm 19 TOTAL figures - UNFNBLVABLE!)

I just don't understand how you can only release 19 figures total over 12 months for a line that is supposedly selling well.

Yes, the BP has to be the Republic Troopers one.

2 of the deluxe sets are no doubt the Boba Fett & Speeder and Obi-Wan and Attack Shuttle. I would assume the other 2 are NOT the long-awaited Walmart exclusives. The other 2 could be those long rumored sets Republic Stun Tank And Mace Windu and BARC Speeder And Luminara Unduli, but those both seem out of place now.

Any mention of midsize vehicles? No big ship either next year I take it?

Honestly, I think that is a real shame and it seems incredibly stupid and short-sighted to me to neglect the line in this way. But on the other hand, you can't find any new stuff in stores any more anyway, so it is that much less to get frustrated about. Overall though, I feel like they are pushing collectors like me and Pete out of the hobby with this nonsense.

I can't even really work up a good rant about this, collecting this line has really not been fun for some time now. Maybe next year will bring some fresh new perspective for me.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on November 11, 2011, 01:47 PM
In a word, disappointing.  Not much to say.  The focus is TPM, but it will never go back; there will be a new movie each winter for the next six years.  The CW line is purely backburner.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on November 11, 2011, 01:54 PM
A casual collector like me has lost most of my interest in CW toys, due to short changing figures on articulation and of course, not being able to find some new figures. Add to that the lack of new characters...

The Citadel arc might see...what Echo and Fives in toy form...MAYBE. What happened to "we have figures planned from the Mortis trilogy"? Where are they? Was it all in our heads like the storyline?

These 2011 battle packs had promise that we'd see some characters in similar packs in 2012...now it's just the one pack? Really? Not even more repaints?

Will any of the Mon Calamari storyline make it to toy form in 2012? Seems unlikely now.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on November 11, 2011, 03:24 PM
Any mention of midsize vehicles? No big ship either next year I take it?

The question only asked about figures, mini-rigs, and battle packs so that's all they answered.  We know they have a few mid-size repacks planned - Republic Tank, Anakin's Starfighter. 

Not sure if they are going to end up putting out a few new ones or not.  And the "big" vehicle (if there is one) will most likely be based on TPM based on their hinting at NYCC.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on November 11, 2011, 09:42 PM
Riff Tamson better be one of the remaining 2012 figures. >:(
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on November 11, 2011, 11:06 PM
I'm a little disappointed too.  You only have so long with the animated series...  Wasn't it only to go for like 100 episodes?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on November 12, 2011, 08:18 AM
Yes, the show was originally planned to run for 5 seasons.

So, if there are really only 5 more as-yet unrevealed figures for 2012, is it too much to hope they will all be new figures and just more stinking repacks?

It's nearly impossible to narrow it down, but here are the ones I would like to see just from last season:

Mother Talzin
Generic Nightsister
Trandoshan Hunter
Son
Daughter

I know, fat chance. They'll probably use those spaces for more ARF repacks, R2's, anakins and obi-wans.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: darth_sidious on November 12, 2011, 09:19 AM
Yes, the show was originally planned to run for 5 seasons.

So, if there are really only 5 more as-yet unrevealed figures for 2012, is it too much to hope they will all be new figures and just more stinking repacks?

It's nearly impossible to narrow it down, but here are the ones I would like to see just from last season:

Mother Talzin
Generic Nightsister
Trandoshan Hunter
Son
Daughter

I know, fat chance. They'll probably use those spaces for more ARF repacks, R2's, anakins and obi-wans.

I agree, those would all be great choices - Hasbro should make them to keep collectors AND kids engaged, they think kids only want core characters and clones, but thats simply not true.  My 5 year old nephew has asked me for a number of characters, most of which Hasbro has ignored.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on November 12, 2011, 11:00 AM
The show always generated too many characters to cover completely, but some would be really unfortunate to miss.  My preferences:

Nightsister Ventress
Mother Talzin
Nightsister
Tarkin
Echo Arc Trooper
Fives Arc Trooper
Trandoshan Hunter
Captain Ackbar
Scuba Everybody
Never happen but Satine
Ditto 99
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 16, 2011, 08:30 AM
I always thought the "19 Clone Wars Figures" referred to the number of NEW Clone Wars figures for 2012.

I'm totally STUNNED that it's only 19 total.

How is that even possible? Could it be because there is SO MUCH Shadows of the Dark Side product in the pipeline still, that they (Hasbro) is not willing to take back, they're going to just let that product float the line for a bit?

I guess anything is possible when out-of-the-blue, WalMarts start to get Pre Vizla/Flamethrower Clone cases over a year after they originally came out.

I originally wasn't thrilled with the Clone Wars animated line, now I really like it, but this totally seems to me that they are trying to kill it.

I almost wish they had just gone with realistic styling from the beginning, at least then there wouldn't be a "end" to the line, they could continue to slot in characters from the 3D Animated CW Series from now until eternity. Almost like how, six year later, we're STILL getting figures based on the 2D Clone Wars series (I'm looking at you Captain Fordo ARC Trooper Commander w/Phase II ammo belt and helmet).

I guess we all knew that the line wasn't going to go on in tandem for ever, I just didn't think it would be until AFTER the five seasons had run their course...  :-\
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scott on November 16, 2011, 10:00 AM
Do sales and turnover at stores seem that out of whack to anyone than they used to be?  It sure doesn't to me...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on November 16, 2011, 10:26 AM
I can't say that I've seen tons of CW piling up around me.  Target is the place I usually shop and I see a lot of turn-over.  Some stuff always sells fast (Anakin, Yoda) and some stuff lingers but ultimately sells (Obi-Wan, Clones).  The fact that they have been having a lot of sales ($6.99) helps too.

Maybe it's just a simple tooling cost deal.  Maybe they only have X dollars to tool new figures in 2012.  Maybe they burned some of their 2012 Clone Wars tooling dollars on the new Movie Heroes line instead of Clone Wars?  Robbing Peter (TCW) to pay Paul (Movie Heroes) as it were?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on November 16, 2011, 06:31 PM
That makes sense Jeff, but isn't the whole idea of movie heroes/legends to simply trawl out old junk and make free money off stuff they've already done? Can the minor tweaks and revisions they are making to those figures really add up to the equivalent of 15-20 all new sculpts in the CW line?

If they are looking for ways to save money on tooling, shoot, just give us repaints that are new. Would it really be that expensive to slap some purple paint on Jabba and call him Ziro? Or use the Yularen body and clone head for a generic deck officer? Or how about a kit-bashed Ima-Gun-Di?

I just feel like they're gotten lazy with the line and aren't even trying to find new ways to keep it invigorated.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2011, 07:51 PM
Around me CW sells through fairly well unless it's obscurity...  Clones, mains...  They seem to do well.  Also droids do alright.  Throw in an alien drill instructor, or human admiral, and they stagnate.  Not terribly different than the realistic line in that regard.  Some do better than others at first, but those types always hit the wall eventually.

Obi seems to really be "around" too, but otherwise they seem to do alright.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on November 17, 2011, 11:01 AM
Obi seems to really be "around" too, but otherwise they seem to do alright.

Is he in the cartoon... they hardly show him.  ;)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2011, 01:29 PM
Yeah he's been shafted on the show for a while.  I miss him and Anakin at this point, haha.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on November 17, 2011, 04:23 PM
And where is Snips? Pole dancing for the Oppress brothers?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 18, 2011, 09:09 AM
And where is Snips? Pole dancing for the Oppress brothers?

Ha! That's as good a reason as any as to why she's not in ROTS!

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on December 6, 2011, 01:31 PM
The QA answer over at RS about the 19 figures today is pretty clear on it being only 19 total figures.  Have we seen most of them, then?  The air has gone completely out of this line.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on December 6, 2011, 02:42 PM
From our JD Q&A:

Quote
2) Wow, just 19 total Clone Wars figures for 2012? You showed 14 figures in the NYCC slides, does that really mean there are just 5 more figures being added into the mix in Fall 2012? Can you re-check those numbers and be sure you didn't mean 19 new figures PLUS an additional amount of repacked figures? Did the new sculpts in the Movie Heroes cannibalize tooling dollars from Clone Wars or something? Or has the Clone Wars market slowed down that dramaitcally that the line is being cut by around 50%?

* There are a total of 19 single carded Clone Wars Figures planned for 2012. With the release of Episode I in 3D our primary focus is shifting back to the movies. Of course we will continue to support The Clone Wars, but more of our tooling dollars, resources, etc. are being put against new movie figures rather than continuing Saga Legends repacks as we did in 2011.

So yeah - sure sounds like the Movie Heroes stuff did indeed cannibalize Clone Wars tooling dollars like some of us were speculating.

So all you Clone Wars fans - be sure to enjoy those "light-up saber" Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon figures and the rest of the new sculpt TPM Movie Heroes figures since they definitely cost you a chance at more CW basic figures! :P



Have we seen most of them, then? 

NYCC showed 14 of the 19 -

 - 8 REPACKS = Topless Savage, Cad Bane, Mace Windu, Yoda, Chewbacca, AquaDroid, Sno-Koon, Aayla Secura

 - 6 NEW (or at least somewhat new) = Phase II Clone Trooper, Republic Commando Boss, Phase II Commander Cody, Phase II Captain Rex, Season 3 Anakin (minor tweak with new launching accessory), Season 3 Obi-Wan (minor tweaks w/new accessory?)

 - 5 Left to be Announced/Revealed
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on December 6, 2011, 03:30 PM
I'm not feeling the love for Movie Heroes, all of a sudden.  >:(

Meh, you can only blame the idiots that run Hasbro...I almost want to see the movie based swag become an utter failure so they are forced to rethink this dubious marketing strategy.

Those movies are old. 3D is not going to reinvent the wheel. There's just not the "wow" factor that they are going to get from kids into the animated line.

And for like the millionth time, just because you can't afford tooling doesn't mean you can't still give us new figures. Repaint, repaint, repaint.

They could blast out Ziro, another Aurra Sing, more astromechs, and Clone Troopers out the wazoo with practically no new tooling needed at all. I could come up with another 19 "new" figures easily that way.

Sad to think this line's best days are behind it now...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on December 6, 2011, 03:55 PM
- 5 Left to be Announced/Revealed

Well, we know one of those has to be Maul. At NYCC, they were tagging this as the year of Maul, and with his return in CW, I would bet he'd have to be one (unless they do a shirtless version of him, too.  :P). We'll see him at ToyFair.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on December 6, 2011, 04:12 PM
Just regular Phase II troopers would be nice, haha.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on December 6, 2011, 05:32 PM
Make that four CW figures left to reveal:

Hasbro Q&A at Echo Base News (http://echobasenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/answers-are-in-for-hasbro-q.html#more)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: iFett on December 6, 2011, 05:49 PM
tremendous = beefy.  I smell exclusive.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on December 6, 2011, 05:50 PM
I woulda thought that shark lookin bad guy would have been a lock.  Maybe not since he is dead.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on December 6, 2011, 07:33 PM
One Q&A reply said  Seperatists are less likely to happen.  Worm Loathsom ruined it for everyone...or whatever excuse.

Krell, Maul is almost guaranteed...

Won't see: Riff Tamson, Adi Gallia, Tarkin or Ackbar (I figure that means no quarren, and no mon calamaris at all).

If season 5 is the last Clone Wars season, I don't expect a turn around in 2013.


Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: TheSon on December 6, 2011, 10:09 PM
I don't think I will be buying any EPI figures after today's release. When the movie flops, after a big initial week and we are stuck with those figures clogging the pegs, it will be a shame Hasbro won't ave as much of my money as they could have.

I am wondering what the fab five left for 2012 are. There are way more than five figures we have already seen in season 4 that I would wan't let alone the twenty or thirty I still am waiting for from seasons 1-3.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on December 7, 2011, 11:43 AM
I still want Sugi and Rumi Paramita to finish off the Bounty Hunter team
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on December 7, 2011, 06:56 PM
I still want Sugi and Rumi Paramita to finish off the Bounty Hunter team

Word. And I want her ship too...that thing is bad-ass.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: TheSon on December 7, 2011, 07:32 PM
Technically if she came with the ship it would not count as a carded release and there would still be five left  ;D

I would still like to see Trench or the son, but I would guess those chances are low.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on December 7, 2011, 10:18 PM
Next year everyone better vote for animated Separatists in the SW:TCW Wishlist so that Hasbro will know we want them in the line.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JediMoses on December 7, 2011, 10:55 PM
I am still very surprised by this development
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scott on December 8, 2011, 08:23 AM
Outside of the Defender Wishlist...what heavy hitting characters do they need to cover?

Krell obviously
Adi Gallia has been in a few episodes
New Versions of the Clones (Wolffe, Fives etc)
Nightsisters
Tarkin

I still think they need to do Satine, Mother T and a few other separatists (Shark Dude, Trench, the guy from the Prison Tarkin arc)

Secondary don't do so hot in this line, which may be another reason for the slow down
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on December 8, 2011, 08:52 AM
They have already claimed there would be figures forthcoming from the Mortis arc in a previous Q&A, so that is the glaring omission in my mind.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: TheSon on December 8, 2011, 07:20 PM
I thought they had said that the Son was in the parking lot, but they were less than definitive about the Father and Daughter. Even if they brought back the mail in exclusive for clone wars that would make a great set.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on December 9, 2011, 10:44 AM
If they aren't gonna make all three Mortis characters, there's no point in making one. It would be like making Ziro's assassin droid but not Ziro.  ;)

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on December 9, 2011, 11:38 AM
I personally think it would be super-cool if they would release the Son and Daughter as Deluxe sets, with their "Beast" counterparts as pack-ins.

Not sure what they could do with the Father, but I suspect he would be very low on their priority list anyway.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: TheSon on December 9, 2011, 03:19 PM
I personally think it would be super-cool if they would release the Son and Daughter as Deluxe sets, with their "Beast" counterparts as pack-ins.


This is an awesome idea. I am sure he may be the exception, but for whatever reason, my 7 year old asks about the figures from this arc every time we are at the store. If they are never made it will be crushing. I would want them in any form, but that bat/beast creature would be too cool to have.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Darby on December 26, 2011, 07:11 PM
Over at RS the rumor is one of the upcoming CW figs is Ahsoka in Scuba Gear (much more interesting than Anakin), which seems to be somewhat validated by Curto.  That would eliminate another open slot out of the 19 next year:

(From Jeff's list):

8 REPACKS = Topless Savage, Cad Bane, Mace Windu, Yoda, Chewbacca, AquaDroid, Sno-Koon, Aayla Secura

6 NEW (or at least somewhat new) = Phase II Clone Trooper, Republic Commando Boss, Phase II Commander Cody, Phase II Captain Rex, Season 3 Anakin (minor tweak with new launching accessory), Season 3 Obi-Wan (minor tweaks w/new accessory?)

5 Left to be Announced/Revealed = heavy rumors on Krell, Scuba Ahsoka, Darth Maul - and 2 TBD. 
       
Not a lot left to learn out there, for the basic line anyway.  I think we will get some nice surprises elsewhere.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Taliax on January 14, 2012, 04:29 PM
Outside of the Defender Wishlist...what heavy hitting characters do they need to cover?

Krell obviously
Adi Gallia has been in a few episodes
New Versions of the Clones (Wolffe, Fives etc)
Nightsisters
Tarkin


Your list is everything I want Hasbro to make, I'd buy them all. Well maybe not the clones.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 2, 2012, 05:03 PM
From RS:


372901860
372931860 SW CW ANAKIN
372941860 SW CW CLONE TROOPER PHASE II
377361860 SW CW SAVAGE OPRESS
384111860 SW CW CAD BANE
384121860 SW CW YODA
373071860 SW CW PLO KOON
373061860 SW CW COMMANDER CODY S4
384131860 SW CW MACE WINDU
384151860 SW CW KASHYYYK WARRIOR (Chewbacca)
373081860 SW CW AQUA BATTLE DROID

372901861
372931860 SW CW ANAKIN
372941860 SW CW CLONE TROOPER PHASE II
377361860 SW CW SAVAGE OPRESS
384111860 SW CW CAD BANE
384121860 SW CW YODA
373071860 SW CW PLO KOON
373061860 SW CW COMMANDER CODY S4
373081860 SW CW AQUA BATTLE DROID
372921860 SW CW REPUBLIC COMMANDO BOSS
373051860 SW CW OBI-WAN S4
372971860 SW CW REX S4
384181860 SW CW AAYLA SECURA

372901862
372931860 SW CW ANAKIN
373071860 SW CW PLO KOON
384131860 SW CW MACE WINDU
384151860 SW CW KASHYYYK WARRIOR (Chewbacca)
373081860 SW CW AQUA BATTLE DROID
372921860 SW CW REPUBLIC COMMANDO BOSS
373051860 SW CW OBI-WAN S4
372971860 SW CW REX S4
384181860 SW CW AAYLA SECURA
377401860 SW CW SCUBA AHSOKA
377421860 SW CW SUPER BATTLE DROID
377411860 SW CW CLONE COMMANDER WOLFFE S4

372901863
384121860 SW CW YODA
384131860 SW CW MACE WINDU
384151860 SW CW KASHYYYK WARRIOR (Chewbacca)
372921860 SW CW REPUBLIC COMMANDO BOSS
373051860 SW CW OBI-WAN S4
372971860 SW CW REX S4
384181860 SW CW AAYLA SECURA
377401860 SW CW SCUBA AHSOKA
377421860 SW CW SUPER BATTLE DROID
377411860 SW CW CLONE COMMANDER WOLFFE S4
384191860 SW CW COMMANDER FOX
384211860 SW CW CYBORG DARTH MAUL

As far as I can tell, the only figure we know FOR SURE that is a new reveal on there is the Cyborg Maul. A lot of people are speculating that Wolffe and Fox are Phase II but Fox is not marked as S4 so it could be a straight re-pack of his previous version.

If Wolffe and Fox are the Phase II versions, there's your figure line-up for 2012. That would fill the last of the open slots.

I'll still believe it when I see it, but if that holds true, major suckitude. I wanted my Umbaran Soldier real bad.  >:(

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 2, 2012, 07:07 PM
Krell is not on those lists - wasn't he confirmed?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 2, 2012, 09:45 PM
Krell is not on those lists - wasn't he confirmed?

Yes, all of those figures only add up to 18, so we are still one short for individually carded releases.

My theory is that Krell is going to come packaged ala Kul Teska as some kind of store exclusive.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JediMoses on February 2, 2012, 09:56 PM
Krell is not on those lists - wasn't he confirmed?

Yes, all of those figures only add up to 18, so we are still one short for individually carded releases.

My theory is that Krell is going to come packaged ala Kul Teska as some kind of store exclusive.



I think it is all nineteen.  I am still amazed at this, but maybe this is to get them until the holiday time.  Gotta hope for some exclusives.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2012, 10:43 PM
Seems like a few newbies making the rounds in deluxe too, which could expand some.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on February 3, 2012, 04:39 AM
The SBD better be a new SA version!

It can be the old sculpt with added knee and ankle articulation at least.

Ball-jointed hips would be a plus.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on February 3, 2012, 08:42 AM
Way to spoil that Maul's a cyborg!  :P

The first Fox was a kitbash that didn't look right, IIRC. So odds are this is a new one.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 3, 2012, 09:07 AM
I think it is all nineteen.  I am still amazed at this, but maybe this is to get them until the holiday time.  Gotta hope for some exclusives.

Anakin Skywalker
Clone Trooper (Phase II)
Savage Opress (shirtless)
Cad Bane w/TODO 360
Yoda
Plo Koon (Cold Weather Gear)
Clone Commander Cody
Mace Windu
Chewbacca
Aqua Droid
CW? Ahsoka Scuba Gear
CW? Aayla Secura
CW? Obi-Wan Kenobi
CW? Clone Commando Boss
CW? Captain Rex
CW? Commander Wolffe (Phase II)
CW? Commander Fox
CW? Cyborg Maul
CW? Super Battle Droid

Yep, you're right...I missed the SBD in my count. That is 19 individually carded figures alright. Krell is totally MIA.

I can't see them throwing him into a BP after all the bad noise they made about no newly tooled figures in those things.

Mailaway?!?!  :D

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on February 3, 2012, 09:30 AM
After Sgt. Brick they said no more CW mail-aways. Even though they had to make more Bricks to satisfy demand.  :P

If we don't get 100,000 forms in the mail within 2 months, it's a flop! I wonder if the current mail-in Fett won't be considered a flop because after they nixed the online version there's so few order forms to be found at a retail for folks to use.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JediMoses on February 6, 2012, 09:51 PM
After watching The Box, I couldn't help but wish for one of those Target Exclusive gift sets designed to look like the Box and containing all of the characters from the episode.  Sure it would run at least $100 but it should would be cool looking.  Too bad Hasbro seems intent on ignoring CW. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on February 11, 2012, 03:01 PM
The Super Battle Droid is new, SWEET!

Edit It's a training simulator Super Battle Droid from the Clone Cadets episode, repaint of the same old sculpt..... no new articulation. :(
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on February 11, 2012, 07:40 PM
Looks like no knee joints on scuba Ahsoka.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 12, 2012, 01:40 AM
The Super Battle Droid is new, SWEET!

Edit It's a training simulator Super Battle Droid from the Clone Cadets episode, repaint of the same old sculpt..... no new articulation. :(

Cool, just saw the pics over at 'Scum...this is fine by me. At least it's not another stinking repack.

Wonder why they didn't show Fox?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 13, 2012, 11:42 PM
The Super Battle Droid is new, SWEET!

Edit It's a training simulator Super Battle Droid from the Clone Cadets episode, repaint of the same old sculpt..... no new articulation. :(

Wait, so Hasbro used up one of the only 19 slots for TCW with a repaint of a crappy SBD...?

Not. Cool.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on February 14, 2012, 08:53 AM
Well, on the bright side, outside of Aayla and possibly Commander Fox, the rest of the figures this year will be all new.

Sigh, I know...it's a stretch.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on February 22, 2012, 03:51 PM
The Super Battle Droid is new, SWEET!

Edit It's a training simulator Super Battle Droid from the Clone Cadets episode, repaint of the same old sculpt..... no new articulation. :(

Wait, so Hasbro used up one of the only 19 slots for TCW with a repaint of a crappy SBD...?

Not. Cool.

Esepcially since they could've stuck it a battle pack with Kamino training armor Droidbait and Fives or whoever. I mean, it's odd to make a training target when the squad isn't done yet.

There's a few easy options for CW battlepacks with little to no new tooling, but they sculpt new Episode 1 and ESB figures for them instead.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on June 21, 2012, 12:51 PM
Packaged photos of the new Commander Fox over at JTA...check 'em out!

Totally re-used tooling from what I can tell, a mash-up of recent Rex and Cody parts, painted up very red.

Despite the presumed lack or articulation, he's not too bad, IMHO. If they would continue to recycle tooling in new and imaginative ways, as I have always said they should, they could afford to put out more than 19 figures a year for this line. 

One new figure in a wave though? Eesh.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: MasterFisto on June 23, 2012, 11:01 AM
Packaged photos of the new Commander Fox...Despite the presumed lack or articulation, he's not too bad, IMHO.

I'm a little disappointed, since I was hoping that Fox would be a repaint of Cody, not Rex.  That way, we could have another SA clone for the collection.  Also, they messed up the paint on the chin of his helmet: there should be a white patch there.

(Sorry to be negative.)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on June 23, 2012, 11:59 AM
Also, they messed up the paint on the chin of his helmet: there should be a white patch there.

Good catch, I hadn't noticed that on first glance.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 11, 2012, 07:42 PM
So...let's talk about all that SDCC Clone Wars love!

(crickets)

Ummm...they showed a red battle droid?

Yes, some doofus probably just stuck the MH figure in the wrong cabinet. Or maybe that is the mysterious 19th carded TCW figure for 2012.

Um, I saw a nice shot of Fox's back?

They brought the Republic Sub too. Woo hoo!

Please post here if anyone comes across anything noteworthy for this line the next few days.

Hey, it could happen!
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 11, 2012, 08:35 PM
General Krell, Spider-body Maul, the rest of Domino Squad, Captain Tarkin, Sugi, Dengar, Duchess Satine, Rako Hardeen & Admiral Trench are all coming by the end of the year!















(just kidding - figure #19 is just a solid block of plastic on a Darth Maul cardback and it's called "Cargo Bay Storage Box")
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on July 11, 2012, 08:46 PM
Seriously?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 12, 2012, 09:42 AM
So...as I speculated, some Hasbro oaf just put the $%^&* Movie Heroes Battle Droid in the Clone Wars section by accident. Christ, even their employees can't tell them apart.

So yeah, we got absolutely nothing to talk about. It's be laughable if it weren't so pathetic. They couldn't even rustle up a Republic Dropship to show off with the Class I stuff. Best they could do was the sub and recon fighter, which I already have 3 of already.  ::)

meh.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 12, 2012, 11:06 AM
They couldn't even rustle up a Republic Dropship to show off with the Class I stuff. Best they could do was the sub and recon fighter, which I already have 3 of already.  ::)

When I was looking through the pics I thought the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 12, 2012, 02:28 PM
To be fair to the Hasbro people at the show, the important people don't set it up...  They have schlubs do it, probably locals who work for the retail stocking aspect of the Hasbro team.  They're as clueless about the line as any other non-fan...  It's happened at Toy Fair too, and other shows.

Well, now it's onto hoping for C6 to have some Clone Wars news I guess.

If nothing, I'd say that line's maybe kaput.  :-\
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: SnTrooper on July 12, 2012, 05:13 PM
Other than things that were put out by accident then quickly pulled back there isn't any new TVC stuff on display either. No need to whine about the lack of CW stuff until after the presentation.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 12, 2012, 05:21 PM
Yeah, I will miss this line, I have already started moving through the 5 stages of Grieving:

1) Denial: "The line's fine...they're just taking a break for a few months...reduced articulation is just a temporary thing"

2) Anger: "Those bastards! They're doing everything thing they can to kill this sweet, innocent line of toys!I'll burn Hasbro to cinders with my telepathic fury!"

3) Bargaining: "If only I had bought that Republic Attack Shuttle at full price instead of waiting for the 75% off clearance! I could have army built those Yularens! I could have done more!"

4) Depression: "I will never love another toy line again...oh, the agony of loss. Never to see Duchess Satine represented in 3 and 3/4 inch form...I am awash in sadness."

5) Acceptance: "Hmm, that new Hobbit line doesn't look half bad."

 ;D
 
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 13, 2012, 03:00 PM
No need to whine about the lack of CW stuff until after the presentation.

So let it be written, so let it be done.   :-*

WTF, Hasbro?

Pete - what did you think? Has the Fat Lady sung on our line?

Have people started immolating themselves at other sites over the apparent cancellation of Krell?

Could those questions at the Q&A have been any lamer? Who were those plants schmoes?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2012, 03:07 PM
I think it was more "playing to your audience".

Seemed like they knew the bulk of the SDCC crowd was more interested in the Vintage/Droid Factory stuff, so they went with that and saved the CW/MH for Celebration 6 maybe?

I don't think the fat lady is singing for your line just yet...  but if the Celebration 6 presentation comes and goes with nothing new for CW shown, then yeah - dead.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2012, 03:12 PM
I'd agree...  A general sense around the show floor was it was done and realistic was more the direction, however I think it'll continue in some form.  Maybe limited, but something.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 13, 2012, 03:15 PM
galactihunter just confirmed spider maul for "later this year"
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on July 13, 2012, 03:26 PM
I bet he replaced Krell.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on July 13, 2012, 04:00 PM
Update: GH Correction no Spider Maul for 2012 - spider version too big.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 13, 2012, 04:10 PM
Hooray/Dang!  :-\

That Spider Maul rumor was shortlived but thrilling.

If this IS the end, it might be the thing that actually gets me into customizing, big-time.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greg on July 13, 2012, 05:02 PM
I think the animated stuff is being phased out, and it makes sense. The show has had a big-time drop in ratings and popularity, and the Clone Wars sub-line as a whole appears to have performed poorly over the last year or so. As much as I have enjoyed collecting the toys based on the cartoon, I will have no complaints if the line is wrapped up. Four years is a very good run, and Hasbro has covered so much from the show. I wouldn't mind getting the occasional battle pack or exclusive figure, but I am more excited about getting the Clone Wars characters in realistic format.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: TheSon on July 13, 2012, 07:19 PM
I am still holding on to my hope that as long as new episodes are coming out, that here will be some type of toy line to follow it. The new season has some great episodes, and even better figure potential. It's too bad the distribution issues have seemingly robbed us from seeing how truly healthy or unhealthy this line is.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2012, 07:59 PM
I have confirmation that CW isn't ending....  Not exactly great news that they're getting anything new, but confirmation it's NOT ending.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on July 13, 2012, 08:04 PM
From GalacticHunter Twitter,

Hasbro knows Pong Krell's popularity with fans. Will find way to get him out there.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 13, 2012, 10:55 PM
I think the animated stuff is being phased out, and it makes sense. The show has had a big-time drop in ratings and popularity, and the Clone Wars sub-line as a whole appears to have performed poorly over the last year or so.

I think this is somewhat of a misnomer.

I don't doubt that the sales have dropped, but that decline has been hastened by the random and erratic shipping of the last few waves of 2011 and the churning out of mostly rehash/repaint waves so far this year off of some very lackluster figure choices. There's been pretty much only one wave on the pegs for six months now.

As someone pointed out over at 'scum,  Hasbro can probably justify it with saying that sales dropped off a cliff, but they seemed to make sure that would happen with their poor decision-making and execution...

Regardless of popularity, the quality of the show last season was resurgent. Would like to see the toy line rebound similarly...certainly there is a wealth of great toy fodder out there now to mine from.

Of all the yearly cons, seems to me SDCC has the highest "kid quotient" so not sure why that would not be considered a receptive audience for discussing the animated line. NYCC is more of an industry type deal and CVI seems like an even harder core vintage focused group than SDCC.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: JediMoses on July 13, 2012, 11:51 PM
I think the animated stuff is being phased out, and it makes sense. The show has had a big-time drop in ratings and popularity, and the Clone Wars sub-line as a whole appears to have performed poorly over the last year or so. As much as I have enjoyed collecting the toys based on the cartoon, I will have no complaints if the line is wrapped up. Four years is a very good run, and Hasbro has covered so much from the show. I wouldn't mind getting the occasional battle pack or exclusive figure, but I am more excited about getting the Clone Wars characters in realistic format.

Ever since Adam at GH started asserting that CW is dying because of the huge drop in ratings, I have tried to actually find the source that proves it.  Yes, the ratings have dropped but not by 25% or anything near that.  On top of that, streaming media is far more prevalent now than it was a four years ago and I have no idea how they would figure ratings for it.  Sure CN can't be terribly happy about the drop but they don't seem to be complaining either.

The last two celebrations have had awesome buzz about the show and DF talks about the show as if it still has a green light to proceed past season 5.  Yes, it will come to an end but I have not seen the hard evidence that suggests the show is in trouble.  Hasbro shifting to focus on the 3d rerelease makes some sense as to the low profile. 

I find the lack of talk about AOTC 3D to be more interesting.  After all, it was SW Day.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on July 14, 2012, 01:16 AM
By all accounts LFL needed a minimum of around 20mil in sales to go with AOTC3D and so on...  I think any lack of discussion there has less to do with it not happening and more to do with it happening in a way not originally planned.

That said, I don't keep up with ratings on TV shows...  If CW has dropped steadily it may have something to do with it though?  Maybe not the overall size of the drop but consistant ratings drops?

I've seen nothing to say for sure CW is dead, and like we reported, CW as a line isn't dead...  It's still continuing as per Hasbro.  They just didn't show anything...  If C6 doesn't deliver anything I'd really be worried.  SDCC is what it is.

I wouldn't say SDCC is a more kid-friendly event.  Actually the opposite.  By most accounts it seems very anti-family, while C6 encourages family.  I think it would make sense to hold CW stuff till then...  Sounds like Deluxe is continuing too.  It'll be interesting to see what C6 delivers though since so much is left on the table yet that didn't get touched on today.  This really felt like a collector-event though.  Realistic, line look changes, exclusives...  And all kind of aimed at that adult market.  No MH, no CW, no Class I and II Vehicles.

It was kind of weird really...  Not bad news, but not really all good news either.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on July 14, 2012, 08:47 AM
If the ratings are good enough for Cartoon Network to keep paying for the show, they're good enough to keep making toys. So I think we can put that argument to bed. Cartoon Network has a little more business savvy then Hasbro I think it's safe to say. They are not in the business of losing money and if anything the TV medium has more of a zero tolerance for any decline than the toy industry. If it's a profitable venture for them, that can translate to the toys as well. You just have to make smart choices.

That said, I'm going to on record as predicting the 20 figures next year will consist of 3 obi-wans, 3 anakins, and 13 repainted clones, plus one figure that never gets made like this year.  ::)
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Captain Piet on July 14, 2012, 10:47 AM
I just cannot understand how, with current media support, Hasbro produces so little for this line.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: MasterFisto on July 14, 2012, 07:00 PM
Ever since Adam at GH started asserting that CW is dying because of the huge drop in ratings, I have tried to actually find the source that proves it.  Yes, the ratings have dropped but not by 25% or anything near that.

As far as I can tell, there is no source.  No offense to Adam, because I love his site, but I think he is prone to exaggeration when he talks about this.  I just roll my eyes when I read it.  There has been a drop in ratings, but is nothing out of the ordinary for a show going into its fifth season.  Here is a breakdown of the ratings over the course of four seasons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_episodes#Season_1:_The_Clone_Wars_.282008.E2.80.932009.29
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 15, 2012, 03:11 AM
I find it somewhat irritating that Hasbro is more invested in their Fighter Pods than the TCW line. >:(
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jayson on July 15, 2012, 05:58 AM
I think with the other properties Hasbro has to juggle, and the fact of rising costs to produce and distribute the figures (insert obligatory distribution jokes here), Hasbro has tied into the ebb and flow of serialized TV. When it's on the air, the toys are popular. When it's in between seasons, there is a dip (a bad "talky" season in the middle didn't help either).

Couple that with a slight decline in viewership and you have our current retail situation. They say they'll be back big with CWS5 merchandise but I'm not sure if that means bigger than 2012 (which wouldn't take much) or bigger like the 2008-2010 number of skus. My guess it'll be somewhere in the middle and hopefully we'll get a nice mix of S4 and S5 characters.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 15, 2012, 08:22 AM
I find it somewhat irritating that Hasbro is more invested in their Fighter Pods than the TCW line. >:(

Me too - I was watching the streaming panel on Friday and when they put up the first Fighter Pods slide, the room did all but groan. There really wasn't any sort of cheering or applause that I could hear.

Why is it that we can see what kind of dud the Fighter Pods sub-line is, but they think it's going great?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Captain Piet on July 15, 2012, 09:13 AM
Yeah, I don't think homeboy understands ALL TV shows lose audience as they go. It's inevitable.
Hasbro better have some good stuff planned for this line at Celebration VI. There's too much good stuff not been done yet.

Ever since Adam at GH started asserting that CW is dying because of the huge drop in ratings, I have tried to actually find the source that proves it.  Yes, the ratings have dropped but not by 25% or anything near that.

As far as I can tell, there is no source.  No offense to Adam, because I love his site, but I think he is prone to exaggeration when he talks about this.  I just roll my eyes when I read it.  There has been a drop in ratings, but is nothing out of the ordinary for a show going into its fifth season.  Here is a breakdown of the ratings over the course of four seasons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_episodes#Season_1:_The_Clone_Wars_.282008.E2.80.932009.29
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: TheSon on July 15, 2012, 09:23 AM
And also with the ratings, the show is on pretty late to pick up new viewers. Remember that the gap between the 7 year olds who started watching the show with all the advertisements and a movie to help launch things are now 12. Most of that audience is now abandoning toys for the chance to brush against a boob somewhere. The current 7 year olds have been exposed to little to no marketing and Cartoon Network has not helped much only rerunning the shows once on Saturday. If I could see the episodes 9 times a week like adventure time, the characters, even the more obscure ones, would be more identifiable on the pegs. "mommy I wan't that" is still going to be the driving force behind Hasbro making money. Saturation is one way to accomplish that, and in par with the ratings slide nothing is being done to replace the viewers "lost to puberty".
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 15, 2012, 09:43 AM
I always wondered that myself - and I apologize to anyone who likes the show and I fully admit that I am judging a "book by its cover" - but whenever I see promos for that "Adventure Time" show, I groan. It looks like the biggest piece of garbage show going and that damn show is on all the time on Cartoon Network.

Maybe they could give up a couple slots of that waste of time to some more re-airings of the Clone Wars.

Why the show isn't airing at like 4pm during the week, I'll never know.

I don't know how TV works - so maybe they have a deal where they have to pay Lucasfilm for the rights to each individual airing as opposed to having the rights to air the show. Does that kind of arrangement exist? And if a show like Adventure Time is Cartoon Network produced/owned, of course they're going to show that more since they own it.

I'm sure if they started the series over from the beginning and aired it every day at 4pm (or some other suitable after-school time), the number of kids interested in it would definitely pick up.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on August 25, 2012, 12:04 AM
So, looks like there is at least one new Class I set for Clone Wars next year after all...SSG has some groovy pics of a 501st AT-RT with Driver and TX-21, all appear to be in the animated style, although this was the one set not shown packaged I believe. I wonder is this maybe started out as the 4th deluxe set for this year originally and got pushed back when they decided to re-do the set configurations.

I still really hope we get that Boba Fett set someday. It would give them an excuse to crank out another Mace Windu as a throw-in, which they seem to love.

I will say, if I am looking on the bright side, the figures they have previewed so far for 2013 at least have better articulation across the board than what we got this year. I didn't see a single unbendable leg in the lot so far.

Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on August 25, 2012, 01:37 AM
Derryl DePriest told Jedi Temple Archives that Hasbro is slowly weaning "us" to accept that these figures will eventually come with only five (5) points of articulation. ::)

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10426
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on August 25, 2012, 07:45 AM
Derryl DePriest told Jedi Temple Archives that Hasbro is slowly weaning "us" to accept that these figures will eventually come with only five (5) points of articulation. ::)

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10426

Ugh, they can't keep kicking us like this when we are down. This was the part I really loved:

"kids get frustrated playing with figures with too much articulation, especially when trying to put weapons in the hands of them"

Are you kidding me!?!? Try putting a rifle into the hands of a figure with no elbow or hand articulation! They can't hold them properly! The Clone Wars figures are so flimsy and the weapons so ridiculously oversized, they can barely even hold them to begin with.

I really wish Hasbro would relinquish the license for Clone Wars and some other company could take it over, like the ones that do the animated Ben 10 or DCU figures. They really just suck badly at managing this potential goldmine.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Scockery on August 25, 2012, 10:26 AM
By kids, they mean kids that should be given the Jedi Force-whatever line and not proper action figures. But the window of kids playing with toys is small, so parents get young spoiled kids toys that they probably aren't ready for yet.

Same with the class 2 reduced scale vehicles. That idea belongs in a Jedi Force line.


Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on August 25, 2012, 11:23 AM
I dunno, less artic doesn't seem like much of an issue when there's nothing new coming out anyway.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 25, 2012, 06:15 PM
I agree on the articulation argument you guys are making...  Wihle I don't think 90 POA are necessary, especially on the kid-targeted lines/figs, I do think it's comical to suggest articulation is frustrating for kids...

A totally good point that it's frustrating for younger kids, who should probably be playing with the line that is catered to them.

When I was little, Star Wars went by the wayside for GI Joe...  Why?  Because GI Joe was cooler to me.  Had better poseability, which looked cooler and was more fun to play with.  If they could've mastered not having thumbs break off at the time, GI Joe would've been nearly perfect.

It's like Hasbro's ignoring its own production in the 80's...  Hell, they even upped the arm articulation on GI Joes because they knew they could do so easily and improve the figure greatly...  Now suddenly kids are not capable of enjoying that, nor are they capable of playing with a toy like that without frustration?

Was I a prodigy and just so advanced at 5 that GI Joes appealed to me while my ape-like peers were still clubbing a femer bone off the ground?

5 POA is pretty rough...  Kid targeted or not.  They really should keep knees and elbows at least.  Maybe try moving wrist joints to the forearm instead of down load?  It works better and is a stronger point of articulation that way...  Or just admit it's because it's too costly and you think you can still sell to kids with lowered articulation counts and save a buck.  :-X
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Brian on August 25, 2012, 09:05 PM
I mentioned this in the C6 thread, but it really does seem like this line is limping into the sunset now.  The "new" figures are just different versions of Anakin, Obi-Wan, Rex, etc. that we see so much already.  They might be nicely done, but it just doesn't interest me.  I was re-watching "Bounty" this week and really wishing they'd get around to making new outfit Boba and Asaaj, Dengar, and the other hunters (not to mention stuff from the rest of the season).  If we starting seeing that, great, but if it is more of these main character re-dos over and over (or "new" 5 POA versions), I doubt I'm picking up much anymore from this line.  Might be a cheap year for SW, if things are as scaled back as it seems - which is ok with me.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 25, 2012, 11:20 PM
Derryl DePriest told Jedi Temple Archives that Hasbro is slowly weaning "us" to accept that these figures will eventually come with only five (5) points of articulation. ::)

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10426

So McMetal - still hoping to see the line continue or are you really looking forward to that General Krell figure with less articulation than the Jar Jar in Carbonite figure?  :P

Wow - that really sucks. I of course, will still buy as long as they make figures for the Clone Wars, but I'll miss the articulation - figures like Scuba Ahsoka really suffer due to the lack of knee, ankle and elbow joints...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on August 26, 2012, 10:59 PM
So McMetal - still hoping to see the line continue or are you really looking forward to that General Krell figure with less articulation than the Jar Jar in Carbonite figure?  :P

Well, I was hoping they would have sculpted that one before they came to that asinine conclusion, but who knows.

I do know I'd still rather have 5 POA in an animated style as a distinct line as opposed to folding them into the main line in a realistic style.

So why is Depriest doing all the debrief anyway? Wasn't he supposed to have been pulled off the line or something?
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 26, 2012, 11:54 PM
I do know I'd still rather have 5 POA in an animated style as a distinct line as opposed to folding them into the main line in a realistic style.

So why is Depriest doing all the debrief anyway? Wasn't he supposed to have been pulled off the line or something?

Well - clearly you didn't get the memo - didn't you know that the Clone Wars line is not for YOU? You're supposed to be collecting the realistic Clone Wars figures that Hasbro is putting out....

LOL...

And yeah - what happened to that Jeff Labowitz guy? I didn't read about his name being mentioned anywhere in the CVI coverage. Scapegoat for the recent problems with the line? I wouldn't mind if that ended up being the case, every time that guy opened his mouth, something stupid flew out.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2012, 03:45 AM
Darryl's still involved a good bit with all the licensed stuff and I'm pretty sure even moreso with Star Wars.

I can appreciate you wanting even a 5POA animated figure McMetal...  I just hope prices reflect the drop in quality for the sake of those collecting it.  $10 would sting for a statue.  At least there's hope that it's not being canned, for the animated fans.

I honestly figured it was on its way out...  I do think they're trying to wean collectors off animated though, and into realistic only, and using the animated line as something of a sales booster for the stuff the majority of the adult share wants to buy...  Which is good for the majority, but sucks for the adults into animated stuff.

And kids don't care I guess...  I disagree, I think it's a little bit of ignoring your own history as an organization, but I also think it's probably true for younger kids...  I think anything 5/6 and up though, and I'm sort of in disagreement on articulation being "frustrating".  I just figure it's easier than saying it's cheaper.
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: McMetal on August 27, 2012, 09:26 AM
Yeah, I agree the price would have to come down if they start selling salt and pepper shaker figures again. The $10 price point would be a tough pill to swallow on top of everything else.

I just don't get the business model. I think they spend a lot of time futzing around with the different lines to prop each other up, and I think that logic is inherently flawed.

Hasbro came right out and said very clearly CLONE WARS OUTSELLS VINTAGE. So why are they trying to run TCW into the ground and dumping all of their tooling $$$ and the quality articulation and character selections into the WORSE-performing line?!?!

Instead of milking that cash cow they are trying to starve it so they can feed the one that ain't giving as much milk. Or something.

To paraphrase Nino Brown, "they running a strange program"...
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on August 27, 2012, 11:25 AM
Good point, McMetal.  I don't get many of the CW figures personally (I like the Bounty Hunters, but since they tend not to make many...)  but if that line's helping to support Vintage, a line that supposedly sucks for selling, then that's odd.  But, I think if Vintage (er, maybe I should say the "Adult line") went, there would be a lot people quitting the job (er, collecting).
Title: Re: Clone Wars Figure Rumors/Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2012, 09:49 PM
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Hasbro came right out and said very clearly CLONE WARS OUTSELLS VINTAGE. So why are they trying to run TCW into the ground and dumping all of their tooling $$$ and the quality articulation and character selections into the WORSE-performing line?!?!

I think this is where things become complex because it's an accounting decision which can get fairly abstract.

The simple explanation, to me, is that TCW outsells vintage...  whether articulation goes down or not.  Vintage maintains a pace, but if things decrease in that line in terms of quality, the backlash from its core target audience is greater than it is with TCW line.

IE: TCW line can take the decrease, thus saving money, the line will still perform to their expectations, and Vintage doesn't see any impact.

I wouldn't be shocked if it's also them looking at TCW as being a finite property while the "main realistic line" as it were is likely to go to the end of the license.  I feel almost sure that's also part of the equation.