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Title: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Hung Solow on June 2, 2003, 10:49 AM
Do you think I should send a egreeting to Philip and the mods, if I get banned.  I just let them know that threatening to ban me is like pissing in the wind.  I own 3 computers, and have access to many modems, plus I work for Time Warner.  I despise idle threats.  I come and go as I please.  If I get tired of them, I simply won't visit any longer.  They should consider themselves lucky that they have me, rather than give me flack.  While I may annoy some, I like to think that I add my own unique flavor.  Would this be too much???  I'm not going to give an official "I'm leaving" statement.  It's lame, and would probably get deleted anyways.   ::)  I don't blame the Nazis for what they did.  Hitler was in control.   I try not to have their mods.  Like Neil Young said... "It'd better to burn out, than fade away".  If anyone wants to add their name, LMK.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: dustrho on June 2, 2003, 11:02 AM
"You must do what you feel is right." ------ Ben Kenobi
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 2, 2003, 12:25 PM
Yea, Phil threatened to ban me because I refused to remove my signature... It was a WW2 Northern Aviation Poster quote, and just happened to say, "japs" and "Nazis" in it... Phil decided that "japs" was offensive, and said I had an attitude.

I can't say I'm too fond of some of the staff at Rebelscum, so I hardly ever post there anymore.

Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Morgbug on June 2, 2003, 12:33 PM
What benefit would it have if you did?  Would you get some satisfaction out of it?  Would there be a point other than you can?  

The deal is that Philip is responsible for the site and as such, legally responsible for the content.  I do not agree with lots of what RS is doing right now, but the content that may be deemed offensive, whether you think so or not, is Philip's responsibility.  That the words "Japs" and "Nazis" are deemed contextually offensive or a liability risk is not at all unusual.  Is it correct?  Nope, not necessarily, but hey, run your own site, make your own rules.  When the Japanese veterans society lawyer sends you a letter regarding the "harmful content" of your site, you can take the risk associated with your decision.  Similarly when the Jewish community gets up in arms (or the non-Nazi German community is offended) you can bear the brunt of their anger.  

Are those events happening?  Nope, I seriously doubt it, but in the litigenous US they easily could.  The point is not what you find offensive, it's what the site owner finds offensive.  Try the same stunts at boards you remain fond of and see how long your behaviour is tolerated.  

That said, I'm not much of a fan of RS and haven't been for quite a while.  It's been far too juvenile for this old man for too long.  It's sad, but I've never seen the point of pouring gasoline on an open flame.  
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JediMAC on June 2, 2003, 01:44 PM
I say you just let it go David.  They've gotten the point now from a number of different members and former members there now.  It probably won't do any good to just keep harrassing them or fanning the flames (this suggestion goes for everyone here really).  Not to mention it wouldn't reflect terribly well on us here at JediDefender, since you've become an active member over here now.

While we generally don't agree with some of the rules and changes that have been put in place recently at RS, or how they don't seem to care about their forum community there, we don't want to start a "site war" between us and them.

I say we all just let 'em be, and concentrate on continuing to enjoy the great atmosphere, more lenient classifieds, friendly community, and more caring and helpful staff here at JD.   8)

My $.02
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 2, 2003, 02:26 PM
I agree with Matt just let it go.  I'm going to slowly stop posting over there and fade away once I see if they come up and start answering people's questions but after that I'm going to stop posting over there for the near future.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Reconsgt on June 2, 2003, 02:43 PM
I personally would just aviod that site if you feel that way. Nothing will come out of sending " hate " mail to Philip. Everyone may not like his rules or choice of mods, or other things he chooses to do with his site but in the end it is his decision to make on how he wants to run RS. It is everyone else's choice to participate in his or any other site. In the end I can't see any good comming out of emailing negative things to RS staff. Anyway that type of thing usually justifies their reasoning for banning people or implementing other changes, it certainly won't make them rethink their actions it will only cause your opinions to be quickly dismissed.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Sith Lord Cosmo on June 2, 2003, 04:50 PM
Let it go.  Its not worth it.  Just stop posting there, as I've done
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Boba Binks on June 2, 2003, 05:41 PM
I have to agree with the rest of the group here. I say just leave. It is very childish over there and people seem to want all the glory.

The mods here do their best to keep the peace and keep the trolls out of here. This is a very respected place. You will like it here.

Keep up the good work everyone.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darby on June 3, 2003, 05:20 AM
I have to agree with the group.  I'd let it go.  I don't think engaging them in the way you suggest will be positive.  We have a nice little community here, and I'd be glad just for that.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: DSJ™ on June 3, 2003, 09:22 AM
I see no sense creating a disturbance in the Force. Just leave & let it go.  
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: TopJedi on June 3, 2003, 09:38 AM
Hung, I say just forget about it also........It's not worth the hassle......and it's obvious the admins don't respect the members enough to answer some very important questions which have arisen from thier new set of rules.....to me this is a slap in the face to the forum members......they are there long enough to post new rules....yet can't take the time to answer questions about the rules.....

I have already started to slack off posting at RS........That place is going downhill faster than an avalanche.......but I don't blame all of the mods.....I've met Bryan in person and have found him to be a really reasonable and likeable guy.......and I don't feel as if he's part of the problem there.

I did change my sig line at RS.....and from what I've found it is complaint with every current standing rule.......so they can't tell me to remove it based on a rule violation.

Here's my new sig line:

"Are you looking for a place where Star Wars and other toylines can be freely discussed,bought,sold or traded? Then Check out JediDefender.com"


I figured why not show people the other option...without raising hell about it............but I wouldn't go so far as to waste my time sending an e-mail to Phillip or any other staff members.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 3, 2003, 12:58 PM
I'm with you Brian.  Good idea.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: hansloroll on June 4, 2003, 02:24 AM
Just stop going there.It isn't worth the aggravations.I hate their recent implementations but oh well.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 4, 2003, 02:44 PM
My posting severely dropped off over since these new rules started coming into effect.

I thought about posting an "I'm leaving" thread, or something asking what's the deal with the sudden influx of all the new (and harsh) rules....but I don't see what good it would do.

I've just stopped posting there almost completely, which is no small feat considering I spent all day at work there most every day for a LOOOOOONG time.

Instead,  I've just found other ways to screw around during the day when I'm bored.


Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: MisterPL on June 4, 2003, 04:11 PM
Yes, if you're going to screw around at work, do it here.

As I understand it, this is about circumventing the profanity filter, is it not? If so, this is a rule that's been in place for some time, Philip's just now getting around to enforcing it. I wouldn't bother raising a stink. Star Wars could use a nice G-rated collecting forum outside the Official Site. If Philip thinks Rebelscum should be it, so be it.

The rule regarding Star Wars-only trades sounds a little fishy to me. I can't help but wonder if Philip's tidying the place up for guests in the wake of Paul Ens' warning in TF.N's Hyperspace Q&A that "there aren't many Lucasfilm 'police', so I imagine they will be keeping their most careful watch on the busiest street-corners," Rebelscum being one of them.

Are Philip and TheForce.net simply vying to become THE free Star Wars fanboy destination on the web?  ::)
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 4, 2003, 06:13 PM
Nah. I really don't care about the profanity thing. I am specifically referring to the trading rules, as they really affect this Simpsons Collector. They also affect me because I've bought a few things that weren't Star Wars from other folks there.

They've refused to talk about it anymore, and they ban people who make a stink (like Jango Fettish).

That to me is not cool.

It seems like a lot of people I liked chatting with are absent, or over here, so I don't see why I should hang out there.

As for what I'm doing with all that spare time, well, work has been a little busier, but I've also taken up playing Joust on Shockwave.com a bit.

I bet I'm better than all y'alls.   ;D
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: TopJedi on June 4, 2003, 06:49 PM
Josh I agree man....RS has lost it's pizazz that it originally had ....at least over the last few months.

I used to love the fact that I could pick up a Simpsons,MOTU,TMNT,GI Joe or other random figure as well as the Star Wars figure that I might be looking for......instead they slap us collectors in the perverbial face......and refuse to discuss the situation.......fine,so be it.

I refuse to bow to Phillip's crappy ideas any longer......so I'm now a PROUD JD member!
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Morgbug on June 4, 2003, 08:22 PM
Not that anyone is particularly concerned with what I think but I really do see it as a poor choice.  Hasbro's distribution sucks lately, probably even more than usual as lots of folks are having a terrible time finding stuff all over the US, never mind Canada.  Being collector's, there's a bit of an addiction thing going on and we need to hunt, to buy, and possibly to trade.  No new SW toys?  Grab another line or lines.  Simpsons, MOTU, LOTR, McFarlane whatever.  

I'll grant you, I've seen trade lists at RS without any SW content, but not many and usually from people with other SW trade lists.  I really don't get it.  Overall the place is dominated with SW content.  90% of the forums are SW only, Wuhers and the trade/classifieds were basically the only ones not.  

Weird decision, but not mine to say why.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 6, 2003, 02:11 PM
I checked over there today and there was a "rebelscum survey" post in Wuher's, which I responded to with a few of my general grievances and my reason for not being around so much anymore.

It seems that a lot of people are disenchanted with that place lately, and I thought the "survey" post was a good place to get it out there.
Maybe the mods will read the constructive criticism and take note, but somehow....I doubt it.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 6, 2003, 02:25 PM
I checked over there today and there was a "rebelscum survey" post in Wuher's, which I responded to with a few of my general grievances and my reason for not being around so much anymore.

It seems that a lot of people are disenchanted with that place lately, and I thought the "survey" post was a good place to get it out there.
Maybe the mods will read the constructive criticism and take note, but somehow....I doubt it.

Thats why I started it so that people can say what the feel and so that the mods/admins can see what the feeling of the community is.  I had to do the V2.0 since they was another Survey which was moved to they feedback section and after a few more repilies there it disappeared so I figure I will start this one.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 6, 2003, 02:33 PM
Well, it was a good idea, and I have now posted TWO replies to it. I'm anxious to see what people say as it gets rolling.

Before it gets deleted or moved...
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Diddly on June 6, 2003, 02:43 PM
Yeah, I'm going to slowly fade away also. This forum is really nice, so it will be the place where I drop the most posts from now on. The only reason left for me to hang around RS is the Austin Look What I Found thread. It has a nice group of people. Other than that, I'm pretty much through with RS.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 6, 2003, 02:51 PM
Well, it was a good idea, and I have now posted TWO replies to it. I'm anxious to see what people say as it gets rolling.

Before it gets deleted or moved...

Like I stated in that thread if it get lost I will just replace it and I just saved everysingle comment so far on it so the history of this one will conutine on the next one. ;)
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 6, 2003, 02:54 PM
Shane has a lot of nerve to say what he did. Either he's in denial, or just wants to ignore the fact that RS is in dire straits.

"Heck, i'm a mod and i belong to other boards but i've seen exodus's before and when it comes right down to it they never work out. "

Really. Well, I think I have 20 people, that joined JD in 2 weeks after defecting from Rebelscum that can prove that wrong.

How naive.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 6, 2003, 05:48 PM
Well, I think it's going to be a constructive thread....so far it hasn't deteriorated. I think I've kept my end of it very civil.....

BTW...Cory, are you still banned?
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 6, 2003, 06:16 PM
Just want to ask people that have been to RS and seen the thread if I'm being civil or not.  Just want to make sure and see what people think of what I'm saying.  I will take in comments bad or good, hopefully good. ;D
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 6, 2003, 06:17 PM
Shane has a lot of nerve to say what he did. Either he's in denial, or just wants to ignore the fact that RS is in dire straits.

"Heck, i'm a mod and i belong to other boards but i've seen exodus's before and when it comes right down to it they never work out. "

Really. Well, I think I have 20 people, that joined JD in 2 weeks after defecting from Rebelscum that can prove that wrong.

How naive.
I've honestly tried to find a place in my heart for Shane, but it seem like he's in total denial!  We've had our in's and out's, but he's spewing drivel.  I've gotten the same responce from a few of their mods.  What is going on over there!?!?!  Something is up, and they are not saying.  I like how they got all offended about the Hitler reference, but yet no one took the time to look at the similarities.  I guess they were too wrapped up in being offended.  Oh well, I'm not Superman, and I have no interest in saving the world.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 6, 2003, 06:58 PM
Totally civil. Alls you are doing is posing a question, no harm in that. Thing is, a few of the mods are "coming to the defense" of RS.

Shane, I dunno, he just doesn't get it.

Whats funny is that Apokolips chimed in with "You people are under a strange notion that this forum is a democracy."

It's never been a democracy, and Philip has never bothered polling his LOYAL (not anymore) forum members as to what they want to see or what they think will better improve the environment HE provides.

Oh well, not sweating it anymore. But if they continue to ignore forum members, and deny that there are better, more professional sites out there, that rude awakening will just be looking even ruder.

Oh, and say Hello to Rebelscum defector 21 in less than 3 weeks, DarthRaider.  :-*

Josh, I am very much eternally banished from RS.
Title: Re:RS,the joke that it has become.
Post by: CyberScout on June 6, 2003, 07:19 PM
Josh and Angry Ewok,my hats off to you guys for your comments over there.My feelings are the same on the matter.I'm not sure if Shane is in denial but I think he totally is missing the points being brought up.Cory I'll be glad when the day comes when your ban is up.You seemed to have gotten under their skin and that I do appreciate.

Personally I have my own problems with a certain mod over there and I will go down fighting to the very end if thats what it takes.Pointless? probably.At this point and time I just dont care anymore.

Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JediMAC on June 6, 2003, 07:20 PM
Just want to ask people that have been to RS and seen the thread if I'm being civil or not.  Just want to make sure and see what people think of what I'm saying.  I will take in comments bad or good, hopefully good. ;D

I think it's civil enough Tom.  But it's probably a good idea if we just keep the comments and opinions about RS over at RS for the most part.  That's where they'll do the most good, I'd imagine.  I realize that a lot of people here don't like some of the recent changes and actions (or lack thereof) over at 'Scum, and we've discussed them a fair amount already here now, but we really don't want to start up some kind of site war between us and them.  We're all still a part of the greater whole - the online Star Wars collecting community, and that's not something I personally want to see torn apart...

Hopefully folks can just check out both sites, or any others, and decide what's the best fit for them personally, and enjoy spending their time there.  Sometimes even a combination of the different forums works well for some people...  But we'd like to think of ourselves here at JD as a community that just wants to enjoy the positive, knowledgeable, and friendly vibe that we've carefully developed here, rather than talking down about any of our online neighbors, as fun or therapeutic as it may be.  Hopefully that's the style we can shoot for anyways.  I know that can be hard sometimes, especially at a time like this, and it's something that we all should work on as part of the JediDefender collecting family...

Anyways, that's just my thoughts on the matter...   :-*
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 6, 2003, 07:33 PM
Thanks for the words, Mike. If I do become reinstated at RS, it'll be out of mercy, I'm afraid. it's not like they are going to read my e-mails (the constructive criticism ones) and have an epiphany..then "un-ban" good ol' JF.

Not that I want to go back there anyway  :P

Anywho, I think Matt hit the nail on the head. Lets worry about Jedi Defender and how to make US better! I had asked Chris Berry about a potential image bank, lo and behold, he already spoke to Matt about it! We're on our way up.

Keep the professional, friendly attitude that people have come and WILL come to associate with JediDefender.com, then people we see how a member-driven, "Cheers" like forum conducts themselves!
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: CyberScout on June 6, 2003, 07:42 PM
Youre right Cory,both you and Matt.This topic really has no business being here and for that I apologize.I'm going to step down and wipe my hands clean of it.My main concern from this point forward is collecting and to try to be a helpful and positive member of the JediDefender collecting family.
Title: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: Vator on June 7, 2003, 12:23 AM
So who has left RS for this place.Don't be shy,also by leave I mean not post as much or flat out quit.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Batman on June 7, 2003, 12:28 AM
I just signed up with this place about 2 minutes ago and I see no difference in this place and rebelscum ::), but I guess I will be a commoner here too :).  
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Hung Solow on June 7, 2003, 12:28 AM
I think at last count, it was like 23 regulars.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on June 7, 2003, 12:47 AM
I think at last count, it was like 23 regulars.

Actually, probably about 80% - 90% of us here at JD were Rebelscum regulars at one point.  But many of us left in part or whole a long time ago, way before the Classifieds rule change ever came about there.  There was a whole "different group" there before many of you ever even joined, that perhaps you didn't know so well...

I'm guessing that D_C_F is actually trying to figure out how many just recently came over after their Classifieds rule change...  If you really want to know though, you can just scroll through the last page or two of our Member List to find out.  It's probably a lot easier and quicker than having a roll call here.   :-\

But like I've already mentioned in another thread, hopefully people will kindly refrain from doing any RS bashing here since that's not what JD is all about.  Just enjoy the friendly, knowledgeable, and most of all respectful vibe that we've already had going on here for quite a while, and everyone will be more than happy!   8)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: hansloroll on June 7, 2003, 02:10 AM
I dig your grokspeak.I'm here though I still check in but it has nothing to do with something as trivial as closing the trading restrictions but moreso directly related to finding the lost members of my tribe.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 7, 2003, 02:42 AM
Chris recruited me back when we (JediDefender.com) were known as JediChris.net... Ever since the URL change I've spent more and more time here and less time at RS...

As Batman says, there's not much a difference - except, for me at least, I feel like this is a closer community.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darby on June 7, 2003, 06:02 AM
I'm so glad you're here, hansloroll.  The tribe welcomes you home.   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: obi_robz on June 7, 2003, 06:09 AM
I don’t know if I count as a RS “regular” because I only started last December. But I have reduced my posting there by at least 50%, at least for the moment. The new rules didn’t bother me too much, it was more the fact that a lot of the true “regulars” started disappearing – I looked down the list of threads and didn’t see too many names I recognised.

There’s another big difference between the 2 boards, but I’m wondering if I’m just imagining it. Is Angry Ewok not very angry over here? I’ve not been here long enough to really judge, but he doesn’t seem to get so ratty at JD. Over at RS, he’s always snapping at people :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: TopJedi on June 7, 2003, 08:53 AM
I'm not going to bash RS here.....but I'm one that has left RS for the most part due to the classified rules...and other reasones stemming from admin and mod problems there.

I check in on RS to check my local collector thread there.....and browse over the vintage section to keep abreast of scam artists ;)

I am making JD my Star Wars home site.......and that's saying alot for me.

Keep up the superb work JD staff members!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 7, 2003, 10:23 AM
I just signed up with this place about 2 minutes ago and I see no difference in this place and rebelscum ::), but I guess I will be a commoner here too :).  

You're kidding, right? Of course, you've only been here for 2 minutes so you have no clue what kind of exact opposite JD is from RS.  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: sp00ky on June 7, 2003, 10:52 AM
RS was my first internet SW home.  I do like the smaller feel here though, only been here a few days though :)

I didn't really have a problem with the rules change at RS, because mainly I don't do a lot of trading through there.

I like it here, because its small, like a discussion between a group of friends.  

: insert sappy music here :

Scott
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Diddly on June 7, 2003, 01:31 PM
Yeah, I'll still frequent RS, but not as much. This will be my new main SW Internet Home.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 7, 2003, 01:38 PM
I still go there,but I'm really considering moving here.Nice to see everyone again,I was wondering what happend to some of you.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Morgbug on June 7, 2003, 02:08 PM
There’s another big difference between the 2 boards, but I’m wondering if I’m just imagining it. Is Angry Ewok not very angry over here? I’ve not been here long enough to really judge, but he doesn’t seem to get so ratty at JD. Over at RS, he’s always snapping at people :)


Oh don't you worry, Grumpy Ewok still snaps at people.  It just happens to be certain people. ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 7, 2003, 02:12 PM
Yea Yea, so I'm not so angry sounding....  :D... The folks here just don't give me a reason to be snappy, so far, at least.  ;)... Not to mention I'm a moderator and so I sorta represent the site, so I've got to be toned down a tad.  :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: ponda barfly on June 7, 2003, 03:06 PM
i pretty much just check here now, it wasnt so much the new rule over there more that it had been getting worse and worse all the time, i probaly will still check over there now and again, it was my forst home on the internet and loyality is very important, however by the time i check there again i probaly wont know any of the members there!


barfly
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Morgbug on June 7, 2003, 03:59 PM
Damn, you're all so sweet :'(  *sniff* :-* :P ;D
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: TopJedi on June 7, 2003, 05:49 PM
I just posted in that thread at RS for what it's worth.

I'm all for making JediDefender THE Premiere place for the friendly faces to hang out....LONG LIVE JD! ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Batman on June 7, 2003, 07:44 PM
I just signed up with this place about 2 minutes ago and I see no difference in this place and rebelscum ::), but I guess I will be a commoner here too :).  

You're kidding, right? Of course, you've only been here for 2 minutes so you have no clue what kind of exact opposite JD is from RS.  :P

I'm just saying it "looks" exactly the same as rebelscum.  I wasn't dissing the site or anything.  I am looking to switch to frequenting here more often because I like smaller communities better :).  Your right I have not been here long enough to judge this place, sorry :'(.  Jeez :-[.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on June 7, 2003, 07:55 PM
I'm just saying it "looks" exactly the same as rebelscum.  I wasn't dissing the site or anything.  I am looking to switch to frequenting here more often because I like smaller communities better :).  Your right I have not been here long enough to judge this place, sorry :'(.  Jeez :-[.

Cory's just teasin' you a little Batman!   ;)  2 minutes is just a little quick to pass judgement on a place, but we know that we're very different than RS here at JD, so we didn't take any offense to your comment.  I'm sure you'll enjoy the smaller, friendly and personal community that we've got goin' on here.  Glad you decided to be a part of it!
- Matt
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: Scott on June 7, 2003, 09:59 PM
Someone must not have seen SSG almost go down in flames in May 2000 to know what a mass forum exodus is...and he still has never recovered from his blunders there

We appreciate you all coming here and what we have always wanted to do is create a community and broad based multi cultural, ethnic, age group of people who share a love for a movie with giant walking carpets and laser swords.  

We invited a lot of you and some of you have come on your own and we welcome you all here and want to continue to strive to make this the best place on the net for all of our members. :-*

And I think Matt said it all above, we at JD have no personal grudge against RS and most of us still do post there (at least the non banned staff do :-*) and it has been my home for a long time as well.  When Chris asked me to join the staff here I was skeptical because I didn't want to give up my posting on other forums and gradually over the last year we have made this site better and better each week to the point where a lot of us have made this our home and the other places our summer cottages and the like.  

The point that we are all geeks at heart and we can all get along is also very salient, I can go talk movies at RS, Music at GH and toys here and have a good time doing it...

Enough rambling, thanks one and all for making this place more and more special  :-*

Scott
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 7, 2003, 10:28 PM
Matt,the lady said no!Wait,wrong thread,anyway I think when he said it looked similar he meant that the recent post thing made it look similar,but other than that it is completly different,look around,RS is bright colors and JD is darker colors.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on June 7, 2003, 11:37 PM
I was never a forum member at RS, I actually have only joined forums here, at a tron site the bothan spy cuase a friend runs it. But I enjoy visiting many SW fans sites dedicated to toy news and general SW info.
I'm glad to be here, if it weren't for meeting Dale, I wouldnt have my clone trooper helmet ;)
thanks again to dale for making that a pleasant transaction.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: BushiFox on June 8, 2003, 07:57 AM
Hello.  I've used Rebelscum mainly for trading, so the new classified thing was a bit of a knife to the heart for me.  But, I think the big issue was the unwillingness to compromise.

Ah well.  If you guys don't watch out, you won't be able to tout your "small" group status.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 8, 2003, 10:26 AM
Not too worried about that. Our moderator crew is solid and know how to pick out the bad seeds if they come along.  >:(

Batman, I didn't mean anything negative by what I said, bro. It's just that there is no comparison between Jedi Defender and Rebelscum, aesthetically or quality wise.

Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: blimpyboy on June 8, 2003, 10:51 AM
Hey everyone, I just registered here.  It's nice to see some old timers who I hadn't seen in a good while.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jango Fettish on June 8, 2003, 10:56 AM
Another Matt! That makes 1,001!  :o

Blimpy, fly so high over to our "newbies" section (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=29) so you can get a proper introduction!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 8, 2003, 11:57 AM
I hope this place will always stay as cool.
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: paploo on June 9, 2003, 08:03 AM
Hopefully folks can just check out both sites, or any others, and decide what's the best fit for them personally, and enjoy spending their time there.  Sometimes even a combination of the different forums works well for some people...  But we'd like to think of ourselves here at JD as a community that just wants to enjoy the positive, knowledgeable, and friendly vibe that we've carefully developed here, rather than talking down about any of our online neighbors, as fun or therapeutic as it may be.  Hopefully that's the style we can shoot for anyways.  I know that can be hard sometimes, especially at a time like this, and it's something that we all should work on as part of the JediDefender collecting family...

Anyways, that's just my thoughts on the matter...   :-*


you should go into politics
Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: BushiFox on June 9, 2003, 08:59 AM
To:  Big Bosses of JediDefender

From:  BushiFox, Rebelscum LeaverPerson.

Subject:  Griping about Rebelscum.

It is natural for us that have gripes with another place to want to get said gripes off of our chest.  So, I do apologize that we are griping on your boards about another board, but, when our gripes at the other board are A.  Locked, B.  Deleted, C.  Banned, D.  fall on deaf ears, we feel we need to get our gripes out somewhere.

I'm sure you understand.  Its therapeutic if you will.  

So, please bear with us as we make the transistion from one place to another and we will try to get all of our griping out of the way in an orderly fashion.  Thanks.  :)

P.S.  Josheeeeeeeeeeeee, please point me to some good things to do on the internet while sitting at work with little else to do.  I'm running out of stuff to do!

Some suggestions from me:  www.pvponline.com  Read it from the beginning of the archives.  That is like, 3 years worth of comic strips to read.  Good stuff.  

www.userfriendly.org  is another good one.  They also have some links to some other good web comics, life of riley and nodstrom being two that I can think of right off hand.    Then there is www.snopes.com  Reading about urban legends.  Ummm, I'm going to play star wars galaxies, so I like to play on those forums.  www.comics.com for lots of newspaper comic strips.  www.neopets.com may seem like a kiddy site, but, they have a lot of games, and most of them are based on older atari style games.    Ok, thats it.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Hung Solow on June 9, 2003, 10:35 AM
don't go getting all mushy on us Cory. ;D ;) :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Broem on June 9, 2003, 11:32 AM
I am so happy that I was invited to JD.  Those people over there at Rebelscum were meanies.  That's right they were meanies <sniff, sniff wipes tears from face>!  But now that I've found JD my sad frown has turned upside down!  I am happy!  So happy and free :)  

Just joking around a bit.  I like Rebelscum but for whatever reason it started turning into a fight fest and this place does not seem to have that undercurrent.  Not yet anyway.  So, I'm sticking around here for the majority of my Star Wars pleasure time.  
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Diddly on June 9, 2003, 01:55 PM
I was over at RS oday, and it sounds like people are starting to rebel against GNT. That place is just turning into a war zone. ::)

One of the main reasons I'm leaving is the politics. For example, we can be talking about movies or something, and somebody will crack a political joke. Another member will take that joke seriously, and we'll have a political debate in a soon to be locked thread. I alsoheard about the trading rule. It doesn't affect me since I don't trade, but I think it is kinda unfair also.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 9, 2003, 02:53 PM
I know,as soon as we all jumped boat,the war really started.I see why the CSW people went to GH(I did too).
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on June 9, 2003, 03:09 PM
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I was over at RS oday, and it sounds like people are starting to rebel against GNT

Oooh. Now, you just gave me a reason to visit that site today.

J/K....maybe....  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Virex on June 9, 2003, 03:29 PM
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I was over at RS oday, and it sounds like people are starting to rebel against GNT

Oooh. Now, you just gave me a reason to visit that site today.

J/K....maybe....  ;D

Hell, dude, weren't you the one campaigning for GNT to be a mod?
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on June 9, 2003, 04:22 PM
I think GNT was a natural choice for mod. The dude spends nearly 24 hours a day online at that site.

I was only implying by my post that it would be a funny thread to go see (A rebellion against GNT) but I went there and it wasn't much.

I've never really had a problem with the guy. He's rather neutral across all lines I'd say.

Title: Re: Should I...
Post by: JoshEEE on June 9, 2003, 04:34 PM
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P.S.  Josheeeeeeeeeeeee, please point me to some good things to do on the internet while sitting at work with little else to do.  I'm running out of stuff to do!

Lately, my website of choice, is shockwave.com....where I like to play 80's arcade classics. Particularly, Joust.

My high score is 212000, and I challenge anyone here to top that.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Mandalorian Madman on June 9, 2003, 11:52 PM
just made the migration. woot!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Ghidorah on June 9, 2003, 11:55 PM
It is good to see familiar faces.

(RS rant deleted)


Edit by JediMAC:
Venting a few RS frustrations is fine - to a limited degree, but some of this stuff is going a little overboard and is dragging JD's friendly and positive vibe way down.  Let's try to keep the RS criticisms at least somewhat decent and constructive, if they must be made at all.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 9, 2003, 11:58 PM
I am so happy that I was invited to JD.  Those people over there at Rebelscum were meanies.  That's right they were meanies <sniff, sniff wipes tears from face>!  But now that I've found JD my sad frown has turned upside down!  I am happy!  So happy and free :)  

Just joking around a bit.  I like Rebelscum but for whatever reason it started turning into a fight fest and this place does not seem to have that undercurrent.  Not yet anyway.  So, I'm sticking around here for the majority of my Star Wars pleasure time.  

I notice a particularly strong resolve here to keep this place clean with respect all around at all times.

That is the reason why I'm here, to avoid flames, concentrate on Star Wars, and for the fresh start.

This place will stay clean as long as we want it to.  RS is too far gone right now to enjoy.  Unless you want to stay there for the Jerry Springer atmosphere.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: SnowtrooperHoth on June 10, 2003, 12:27 AM
I dont know, im only here because someone said this place was cool. But im still sticking with RS. Ive made a lot of friends there and met up with some really cool people from my area from those boards. But im always up for doing 2 message boards at once :D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Nicklab on June 10, 2003, 01:41 PM
just made the migration. woot!

Dude, has anyone ever commented that your username is kind of tasteless?  For those who don't know, Sonderkommando's were the Jews in concentration camps that the Nazi's and SS impressed to work the crematoriums.  I hate to take this whole thing off-topic, but the word is frankly kind of offensive.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on June 10, 2003, 01:54 PM
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For those who don't know, Sonderkommando's were the Jews in concentration camps that the Nazi's and SS impressed to work the crematoriums.  I hate to take this whole thing off-topic, but the word is frankly kind of offensive.

Wow....I suppose you DO learn something new everyday.

Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Nicklab on June 10, 2003, 02:02 PM
It seemed signifigant enough to bring it out into the open.  For further clarification on the subject, refer to this page: http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t072/t07216.html (http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t072/t07216.html).
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on June 10, 2003, 02:06 PM
The situation is being dealt with, I appreciate your bringing it to our attention. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on June 10, 2003, 02:23 PM
Thanks,because it was bothering me(Some of my family was wiped out during the genocides,but my grandfather did help smuggle jews out of europe :))
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: amarsella on June 11, 2003, 01:37 AM
I just came over from Rebelscum at the invitation of JediMac. Thanks Matt.

I hardly ever posted there. It seems like it's mostly kids and egomaniacs. A lot of flaming and bashing and lots of the same threads posted over and over again. I was a regular and a staffer for a bit at CSW until they merged with Rebelscum. I tried to get into posting at GH but it seems like days between posts sometimes. It definitely seems like a better vibe here and I'm sure I be sticking around.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2003, 02:33 AM
I just came over from Rebelscum at the invitation of JediMac. Thanks Matt.

My pleasure Anthony!  We're glad to have you here at JD.  I'm sure you'll enjoy the very friendly and personal vibe we've got goin' on here, not to mention having some of the most knowledgeable and helpful collectors on the net here as well.  Feel free to drop any of the staff a line if you've got any questions, comments or suggestions about anything.  And if you feel like it, you can always stop by the Newbie Forum and introduce yourself there if you really want to get a proper reception!   ;)  Enjoy the site...
Title: This is rich...
Post by: Hung Solow on June 11, 2003, 11:38 PM
I found this as a closed thread on the other site.  I found it humorous.  BTW.  They were refered to as the "Fourth Reich".  Do you think they are getting the message???


"The thread in question was moved to the admin section and as per numerous requests, we are attempting to explain why threads simply dissapear.

We reserve the right to remove any content we deem unfit to our viewers as a whole.

This thread with it's numerous references comparing our moderation team to the third reich is simply uncalled for and will not be tolerated.

--------------------
Dustin L Roberts
Rebelscum.com
Always looking to add R2-D2 items to my collection"
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Morgbug on June 11, 2003, 11:57 PM
Yep, happy to have mr. ship seller amarsella over here.  Not sure if you recall, but I bought a fair bit of stuff from you last year.  Great deals and a big help to me. Happy to have you here too.  
Title: Re: This is rich...
Post by: Chris on June 12, 2003, 12:01 AM
I'm sorry to do this David, but this thread has to be closed. While we understand you have frustrations with that site, we just can't have the constant bashing. Because of the recent posts and comments members having been making here at JediDefender, we have instituted an "anti-bashing" policy for the time being until all of these site issues settle down. I truly hope you understand where I am coming from, we are just trying to keep the peace. Feel free to shoot me an e-mail or PM to talk about this. Thanks!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Diddly on August 8, 2003, 12:26 PM
I just felt like bumping this to see what everybody thinks about the latest flaming and the return of "Post Padding".
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 8, 2003, 01:27 PM
I just felt like bumping this to see what everybody thinks about the latest flaming and the return of "Post Padding".

Understood, but in the same token, we don't like bad mouthing other sites here at JD, so let's try to follow the old addage: "If you don't have anything nice to say, please don't say anything at all..."

Thanks!   :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Famine on August 8, 2003, 03:54 PM
I left, for, well, the kindest way to say this is:

If your not somebody there, your a nobody. Thats it. I noticed Unless you have 32849384242.2 billion posts, your a nobody.

And when I posted about the Gay Bishop in the Homosexual marrige thread, the mod was all over me like white on rice covered in maggots in the middle of alaska in a blizzard durring the night. (that was a mouthfull)

Kevin


Some of the members there are nice, but the community...isnt. Thats why they are called Scum I guess. ;-)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 8, 2003, 04:41 PM
I left, for, well, the kindest way to say this is:

If your not somebody there, your a nobody. Thats it. I noticed Unless you have 32849384242.2 billion posts, your a nobody.

Fortunately, everybody's a somebody here at JD Kev!  After all, this is the Cheers of the online collecting community!   8)

Doesn't matter if you've got 10 posts or 1,000 here...  Quality over quantity any day, in my books!  Ranks right up there with being friendly and civil, and getting to actuallly know your collecting comrades here!  SW collecting doesn't have to just be about the figures themselves, it can be about making some good buddies online as well!  That's why a lot of us have chosen to take up shop right here at JD...

Granted, we generally do prefer to leave the political/sexual/potentially combustible conversations elsewhere though...   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Dimetrodon on August 8, 2003, 08:03 PM
i've quit rebelscum... but go back if a friend links me...
thats about it..
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: BobaShek on August 8, 2003, 08:06 PM
I think there's a fraction of a hope that the Rebelscum forums can be turned back into the place we knew and loved (or something close to it), so I'll be visiting there regularly (for the time being). :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: MetalJedi on August 8, 2003, 09:24 PM
Maybe one day that will happen. When they get rid of all the politics and constant bickering.

I still go back for the customs discussion. Thats about it.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 8, 2003, 09:27 PM
I look at it as one good moderator (bib) out of all the ones they have...sad so sad. :'(
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: roguestormtrooper on August 8, 2003, 11:25 PM
Even though I still post over at RS,  It really is alot more personal over here and I enjoy the time I spend here.  There are some really good conversations that take place over here and hope that it continues.  As far as all the bickering and other things taking place lately,  I just stay out of it...  It's not worth getting into.

Chris   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 9, 2003, 01:04 PM
I'm still over there all the time (as you guys probably know) just due to the speed of responses.

I like this place a lot better, and I always think to myself it would be my first and only stop if it were only more populated......

BUT THEN I think, hey...if it was more populated, it might just turn into another 'Scum.

So....this place is my cool down joint, and that place is the mosh pit.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Matt Carroll on August 9, 2003, 01:34 PM

Understood, but in the same token, we don't like bad mouthing other sites here at JD, so let's try to follow the old addage: "If you don't have anything nice to say, please don't say anything at all..."

Thanks!   :-*

Awww nuts!  :P ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: jjks on August 9, 2003, 01:54 PM
I just wanted to stop over here and applaud OCB's work on the RS forums last night. Definitely sent a message!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 9, 2003, 03:16 PM
Well now that your over here ya might as well make yourself comfortable...  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 9, 2003, 03:24 PM
Awww nuts!  :P ;)

But we're willing to make special exceptions for VIPs, such as Galactic Hunter admins...   ;)

So please, feel free to unload Matt!

I like this place a lot better, and I always think to myself it would be my first and only stop if it were only more populated......

BUT THEN I think, hey...if it was more populated, it might just turn into another 'Scum.

Not a chance.  We have a WAY more proactive approach to overseeing our forums, it's members, and it's content.  We actually CARE about our boards here, and would NEVER let any of that CRAP fly here.  I'm still wanting to vomit right now from the nonsensical things going on over there - especially in the last 24 hours - and I'm not referring to what Scott did - but the response(s) thereto, and the specific incident that led to said rampage.

I just wanted to stop over here and applaud OCB's work on the RS forums last night. Definitely sent a message!

I definitely applaud the work, and agree that it sent a message.  BUT, I don't think that message is going to be heard in the slightest bit.  Now all the kids over there just think that Scott's a giant "post padder", which is one of the most laughable and ludicrous things I've ever heard.  People making 2300 posts in 3 months calling SCOTT a "post padder"...???   ::)  Like the rest of us, Scott could absolutely care less what the hell his stupid post count is!  It's beyond pathetic there right now...

Whoops!  Did I say don't say anything if you have nothing nice to say?  Damn.  I hate it when I'm a hypocrite!   :P  I would've kept my trap shut, if not for a certain mod running around locking and deleting random posts and threads at his own discretion over there if they said anything about him...   :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 9, 2003, 04:55 PM
I don't know what it's going to take over there to get someone to listen. I think sometimes it's like they HAVE to see the place literally burn to the ground before they react, and make a change or two.

However....regarding Matt's comments about this place in comparison, I would like to see what would happen if JD finally got that kind of traffic.

I mean the front page of Wattos Junk Yard has less than 10 active topics in the last 2 days....whereas over there Wuher's has 10 active topics in the last hour, and (partially thanks to Scott) probably 10 times that amount in the last two days.

What if some of the mods of this site volunteered for double duty?   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: obi_robz on August 9, 2003, 05:39 PM
It would be great to have a few more people here…the lack of traffic has been the only downside for me, and has kept me at RS like it did when I first started posting there.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Force Guy on August 9, 2003, 05:48 PM
Quality over quantity any day, in my books!  Ranks right up there with being friendly and civil, and getting to actuallly know your collecting comrades here!  

I agree Matt.  However, if conversations are limited to a "non-politcal" nature, how can you really get to know someone?  I mean, it's nice to know what someone's favorite color is, or which movie they really like, etc., but to really know someone, you will eventually have to touch on "political" subjects at some point.  Personally, I prefer to make "friends" with someone based on moral principles rather than one based on which figures we really like.  ;)  Don't worry, as long as I'm here, I'll "play nice," but I just thought I'd make a point.  
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Membraneman on August 9, 2003, 07:17 PM

But we're willing to make special exceptions for VIPs, such as Galactic Hunter admins...   ;)



Hey, does that apply to me too?? :D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 9, 2003, 08:02 PM


However....regarding Matt's comments about this place in comparison, I would like to see what would happen if JD finally got that kind of traffic.


I would assume that Chris Berry and the other Adims here will start a search to find more mods  and get people who actually moderate they repespected areas and take action against people who repeatly break rules.  
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Dimetrodon on August 9, 2003, 08:25 PM
I think there's a fraction of a hope that the Rebelscum forums can be turned back into the place we knew and loved (or something close to it), so I'll be visiting there regularly (for the time being). :)

 hope for what? a better scum?
with a name like that... it can't stay good forever.

plus why bother have hope for them when the better palce is the here and now?
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 9, 2003, 08:37 PM
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plus why bother have hope for them when the better palce is the here and now?

Because as nice and friendly as this place is, there are only a handful of posts every day to look at.

I'd love to see either Rebelscum settle down, or this place liven up.....but neither one is the optimal hangout in it's current condition (unless you only like to stop by once a day.)   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Dimetrodon on August 9, 2003, 08:50 PM
much truth to what you say, but even then... if we all invited people then it will liven up.
even recently i brought on two new people, every bit helps this place.

but thats a story for another time and off the topic.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 10, 2003, 05:26 AM
...if conversations are limited to a "non-politcal" nature, how can you really get to know someone?  I mean, it's nice to know what someone's favorite color is, or which movie they really like, etc., but to really know someone, you will eventually have to touch on "political" subjects at some point.  Personally, I prefer to make "friends" with someone based on moral principles rather than one based on which figures we really like.  ;)  Don't worry, as long as I'm here, I'll "play nice," but I just thought I'd make a point.

Fair enough, but I think it's different for different people.  Politics doesn't play such a big part in my life or a lot of other people here for that matter, and I could honestly care less what most people think about it really.  Same goes for several other "hot topics", such as religion or sexual orientation.  That doesn't mean I don't know what people here think about it though, just that we generally don't discuss it right out in the open is all...

There's a LOT of ways to get to know folks other than "bickering" over certain issues in the middle of the forums.  A lot of us here exchange numerous (personal) e-mails and PMs, and many of us chat quite frequently in either the JD chat, or via our AIM accounts.  Throw in the fact that we do a lot of trading with eachother, a number of us talk on the phone, and even more of us get together with other members here in person.  It really all adds up to most of us knowing eachother pretty well here.

I'd also add that we have a lot more substantive threads here than just "favorite color" and such (I know that was just an extreme example you used to make your point there).  We've discussed people's families, jobs, hobbies, goals, houses, feelings, health issues, etc, etc.  So just 'cause we don't touch on a couple potentially explosive issues doesn't mean we don't know a helluva lot about eachother in most other respects.  Plus, like I already mentioned, outside of the forums we often will discuss some of the other hotter and more personal topics.

Just the fact that most of us even know eachother by (real) name puts us way ahead of other forums on a personal level.  Beyond that, many of us could probably tell you the names and ages of many members wives, husbands, girlfriends, boyfriends, children, pets, what kind of car they drive, what they do, where they live...  It goes on and on really.  Heck, some of us are even talking about getting some vacation plans together just to all hang out for a while and have some real fun!

So just send some e-mails or PMs, or hop in the chat or on AIM from time to time, and you'd be surprised at just how quickly you can get to know your fellow JD'ers personally.  I've always said that JD is much more than just a forum to discuss your thoughts on SW stuff.  It's also a place to make friends, which is what I think really makes this place special...   8)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 10, 2003, 01:07 PM
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Just the fact that most of us even know eachother by (real) name puts us way ahead of other forums on a personal level.  Beyond that, many of us could probably tell you the names and ages of many members wives, husbands, girlfriends, boyfriends, children, pets, what kind of car they drive, what they do, where they live...  It goes on and on really.

OK, that's just scary to me. Does that mean you guys actually listen when I divulge stuff like that?   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 10, 2003, 11:50 PM
I have a lot to say on this but will keep it short for now to on one point...

Matt Carroll and Bob and other old school CSWers Chris, Jamie, Matt, Matt, Matt and Matt...oh and Matt)can attest...RS traffic is no different than what CSW traffic was, there weren't flame wars, 13 year old trolls and if there were, they were dealt with accordingly.  Something I pointed out to you many time this past spring Josh and my biggest beef with what happens there in general is a total and utter lack of respect for anyone...and a lot of that I cannot explain.  It is like ******* Junior High School, partly because the owners of said site I firmly believe are more interested in the revenues generated from the forums than the people who generate that revenue...the other being imcompetent staff and arrogant as hell admins.

There is a tie to our brethern at GH (all good guys ;)) who I want to mention as well but no time right now...I have some thinking to do and want to make sure I have time to say it right ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on August 11, 2003, 12:48 AM
I am going to jump in here. I have been around since the CSW days, and I loved that site. The forums were just so much fun to take part in, read, etc. IMO, that was and IS still the best. Period.

I started my angelfire page 2 years ago for fun. A personal page of mine, for the collection, etc. Well, it turned into a bit of news reporting. Then forums. I then decided I wanted a CSW. Being very ignorant and having no clue what this would involve, I opened up JediChris.net thinking that I would just magically open and have a large community and site. I was dead wrong, dead wrong. JediChris.net had it's "up's and down's" but I always had that dream of having a great community like CSW.

When CSW and RS merged, I was not too happy, but with the CSW crew still in charge along with the RS gang, I thought things would be ok, and they were. Towards the "end" of the CSW/BHC boards great rule, things started getting bad.

I had been preparing something over the summer, that I would debut in the fall. This site would fulfull my dream. It was the perfect opportunity. The BHC boards had failed (as they still do, very much so, even more these days) and I now had the perfect chance. I would bring back the community of the hobby. I have such a passion for JediDefender, and want to share it with everyone. We have the best modern collectors from all of the sites here now, I can guarantee that and will let no one dispute it. The best Star Wars toy conversation is here, at JediDefender. They realize our goals and feel comfortable here.

We now need to get the "butt's in the forums".

Please tell your online friends or anyone that you come in contact with to come to JediDefender! To get more people here in the forum, we need your help. For the site to come full circle, I am relying on our members. We have the first aspect of the BHC down, which is extreme quality, the next phase is the number of people. The staff will continue to work our hardest to maintain excellence but we ask that you show your support for the site by doing the tasks above.

I am very proud to lead this site and the great people that visit, contribute, and make the hobby a blast for me. Thank You!

Best Regards,
Chris Berry
Administrator and Editor
JediDefender.com
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Matt Carroll on August 11, 2003, 01:22 AM
I've come to the realization that me telling my perspective and story on the whole RS/CSW merger and the BHC/'Scum forums from that point to now isn't going to do anyone any good at all. :-X

After the GH split, I realized that the spirit of what was the BHC was no longer present at 'Scum's forums - they had turned into something else completely and  had a different feel. I hadn't visited Wuher's in the longest time until someone emailed me and told me to check out Scott's "work" from the other night.  I'm really at  RS anymore only to read the vintage forums and was really caught off-guard to the extent that things had changed over there. Heck, I think 90% of the people in there would treat me as a newbie if I started posting in the Cantina again, which is a very weird feeling, since that place felt like home for 2 years.

I've been asked if I'm disappointed with the state of the GH forums and I have to say, I'm not in the least. IMO, the most important part of a good, fun community is a solid base, which I think both GH and JD have (especially since a good portion of the bases for each site are comprised of the same people). I'm around the people with whom I've discussed Star Wars and life in general for the last 5 years; people that I've helped out with items or those that have helped me out; people that I've spent a good portion of the day with at C2 - people that I've come to know and respect as friends. Even though I haven't been around these forums as much as I'd like to, I get the exact same vibes about the community that is beginning to blossom here.  Numbers should never be the quantifying measure of the success or failure of a forum, but rather the quality of the people and the posts.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: jadesfire on August 11, 2003, 04:45 PM
Well....I had no intentions of even reading this thread but I hit it by accident and I was sucked in.

I've been at the other forums (much like everyone else) and have watched the decay of one of my favorite places, that being the Rebeslcum forums.  I only posted in CSW when i first joined the "online" community about 4 years ago.  I lurked at SSG but that's all and enrolled under a different name at theforce.net (jadesfire was taken).  I enjoyed the "talk" and began to build trading/selling friendships with several board members.  Then, when RS and CSW merged, I started posting a little bit less.  Part of it was me and part of it was that the site just started to take off and there was a lot more threads to read.  And then Mike left.  I joined GH and never looked back.  

I still post in the prop section at RS, it's a great community and for the most part, you don't have the teenage babble since they can't really afford the line.  I know, I know....I'm taking a direct stab at a certain group but it's the truth.   I'll read the 12" section but it's always so blasted negative it's hard to go in there.

As for GH, I still pop in and read daily, just don't post a whole lot.  I like it there and I think it will be around for a long time....it's just that many of the people I've gotten to know are here, which is why I am here.  I also think the age level here (and at GH) is more mature than RS and is the main reason I've really come to call this place "home".  

Chris (Berry), I think you have a great site and I think the personal approach (I like it that others actually know and remember my name, where I live, what I like) is what makes this site stand out.  You also have great mods.  They are always here to answer questions, point you in the right direction and what not.  I hope you achieve that level you are looking for and thanks again!!

Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 11, 2003, 08:51 PM
I think RS will have a couple of more pages of threads tonight relating to the action of the Mods over there and they action of removing threads relating to a moderator over there who has issues of control, me thinks.  Here is one of them:Whats going on here (http://http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000487)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on August 11, 2003, 10:00 PM
I want to thank Matt Carroll, Beth (jadesfire), and Tom (Darth Kenobi) for each reply you left for me. I really appreciate hearing these things and it shows me that we are doing this right.

I feel I should clarify a statement I made in my previous post.

"The BHC boards had failed (as they still do, very much so, even more these days)"

This comment was not directed toward the current Galactic Hunter forums, but towards to original, now RebelScum forums.

We will all keep plugging away. Thanks!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 11, 2003, 10:11 PM
I feel I should clarify a statement I made in my previous post.

"The BHC boards had failed (as they still do, very much so, even more these days)"

This comment was not directed toward the current Galactic Hunter forums, but towards the original, now RebelScum forums.

Thanks for clarifying that boss, as I assumed that was what you were getting at.  But just so there's no confusion here - the BHC forum title was one of the few things that Mike got to keep when he split from RS and re-emerged as GH.  So the GH forums are still called the BHC.  The RS forums are not.  I think they're just called "The Three-Ringed Circus" now...   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Diddly on August 11, 2003, 10:20 PM
I see that Darth Kenobi's Invasion has begun.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 11, 2003, 10:22 PM
I see that Darth Kenobi's Invasion has begun.

It has ended for  a little bit ( I think) ;D.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: TribesJedi on August 12, 2003, 12:49 AM
I joined Rebelscum a few months ago, and started posting a bit, to find that most people just ignored me most of the time, and a lot of the threads and replys there consisted of insults and one word replys, and other things. I went through a period where I stopped posting for a while, and just lurked there, but after all of the choas and flaming, and dissappearing thread of the last couple days, I decided to click the link to here that is in several rebelscum member's signatures. Just from reading this topic I can see how different the community here must be compared to Rebelscum. I hope to stay here for a while.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 12, 2003, 12:53 AM
TribesJedi welcome to the fourms.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: roguestormtrooper on August 12, 2003, 01:06 AM
Welcome TribesJedi! ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 12, 2003, 02:59 AM
I decided to click the link to here that is in several rebelscum member's signatures. Just from reading this topic I can see how different the community here must be compared to Rebelscum. I hope to stay here for a while.

Welcome to JediDefender TJ!  I'm sure you'll find the friendly and mature atmosphere around here to your liking!  Feel free to stop by our Newbies Forum (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=29) and introduce yourself to the whole gang if you'd like a real proper welcome!   ;)

So kick up your feet, relax, and enjoy!  Give us a shout if you've got any comments or questions about anything here at JD as well.  Looking forward to seeing you around the boards here...

- Matt

P.S.  Boy, Tom...  You really let 'em have it over there at RS tonight, didn't ya'?!  I wonder if Scott's started a new trend - Flash Thread Starting...   :P  Feel free to start a thread or two here as well!   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 12, 2003, 03:21 AM

P.S.  Boy, Tom...  You really let 'em have it over there at RS tonight, didn't ya'?!  I wonder if Scott's started a new trend - Flash Thread Starting...   :P  Feel free to start a thread or two here as well!   ;)

I will tomrrow once I get some sleep and see if I'm in trouble at the Scum of the Star Wars collecting community.  I think its funny that almost all of my threads are useless and post padding threads which are still open even through GNT is up and he hasn't closed any of them down except 2 and another 3 were closed by others out of 21 compare to Scott's post that were locked which were so much better then mine since I was in a rush to post them.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jimmy on August 12, 2003, 10:29 AM
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I prefer to make "friends" with someone based on moral principles rather than one based on which figures we really like

I have to truly agree w/ FG on this...
It's cool we all like the same toys but it's obvious we have that common ground w/ each other... or why the heck would even be here.

I know outside of the "SW" circle I choose friends based on their morals and beliefs. I make sure to disassociate myself w/ people that still have their caveman beliefs.
Granted I do have some "associates" that I know still think the "man in charge" is a great one, and that gays have no place on this planet... but again they are what I call close friends at all.

I have no tolerance for intolerant people. What's the saying... Ignorance is bliss...

I don't go out of my way to make friends... though anyone that knows me and is a friend knows I can be a great one (not pinning medals on my chest either). Some people are all about numbers...

Like Matt said above "quality or quantity"... Heed those words in all aspects of life... You (not anyone in particular) can keep your 100+ "friends"... I'll stick w/ my handful...

I think JD is a great place and do not think they should be driven into the ground like RS, but I think some stuff should be allowed to a ceratin extent.

I have always said religion, politics, and sports aren't supposed to be brought to the dinner table... but at the same time these are some things that show ones true colors in the end.

It's cool that I can be friends w/ the next guy based on our like for the new Hoth Luke, but if deep down inside he's some hateful bigot... then sorry I need not consider him a "friend"...


People try to wash my face w/ the fact I'm not "well" liked by people... but is that not quite obvious to him, her, and I?

I don't go out of my way to p*ss people off... I just stay Jimmy no matter who likes it or not. If I'm so bad for thinking and believing what I do... then so be it.
The day I have to conform in order to be liked by all is the day you might as well close the casket and say bye bye...

JD is a great place and I enjoy the talk and company of most here... but as newer people hop not sure I want to call them a "friend" based on the simple fact we both buy SW toys...
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: DrunkJedi on August 12, 2003, 10:36 AM
I joined RS not long ago, and now I'm here thanks to JediMAC  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 12, 2003, 11:52 AM
I joined RS not long ago, and now I'm here thanks to JediMAC  :)
Good to see ya.  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 12, 2003, 12:47 PM
I went by RS as usual last night, just to see what was going on, and I thought that whole "demonstration" was pretty lame. Once was kinda funny, twice was overkill.

I understand that a lot of people over here have ill-will towards RS, and I understand that a lot of you have ill-will towards certain moderators over there.

My question is....why keep going back? Why turn it into "Site wars"?

It sheds a bad light on THIS site IMHO.  See it through the eyes of someone who has never been over here. They'll think JD is just some tiny site with a beef against RS, and that's not the image you guys want, is it?

You guys are all really cool over here, so why go over there and start up and post in 85 different threads just for the sake of proving a point that the site needs better moderation. I think they know that. Or at least, I hope they do.

To me, this is like seeing one of my friends stalking his ex-girlfriend. Throwing eggs at her house because they broke up, and constantly talking trash about her.....and me still being friends with her.

You guys used to call that place home, and some of us (I for one) still enjoy hanging around there. I'd even like to see it improve, and maybe if they take action it will someday. I don't want to see them crash and burn just out of spite.

Still, if you guys are going around setting fires all over the place and then shouting "BOY, this place is burning down!!" it really doesn't make you any better than the people who are making it suck in the first place.


Sorry if this comes off as a lecture, but I just thought that was kind of lame to do that twice in a week.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jango Fettish on August 12, 2003, 12:56 PM
Well, Tom doesn't represent Jedi Defender's staff. He's a forum member,  so we should not and will not be held accountable for his actions elsewhere.

I think that what Scott did was a little extreme, but at the same time proves a damn good point. Their moderating blows, and it's just a brothel for post whores, not to mention grammar policemen. Hell, alot of Scott's threads were fine, and alot of fun to post in! I'd say his GNT trap worked, he got GNT to close threads that were merited in some way, for no reason, only to open some back again. GNT took the bait.

Then GNT is the one that dragged Jedi Defenders name into the whole thing, by accusing Brad and others of dishonest recruitment practices.
Besides, members at forums aren't exclusive property of RS.

Their moderating staff seems to be extremely incompetent, lazy, and a few of them have their occassional power trips, blaming the state of the forums on their own members which is straight up WRONG. Had they been doing their job, it wouldn't have deteriorated to what it is today.

It's a shame. CSW cared about their forum members. Guess we're just picking up where they were ran out.

..and trust me, no matter what anyone from any other website does, it doesn't make Rebelscum any worse than it already is.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on August 12, 2003, 01:06 PM
Josh, as I said at RebelScum, the recent problems have nothing to do with JediDefender. Darth Kenobi, doing what he did last night, did not represent JD in any way. He and I stated that in one of his threads.

When Old Cocky (OCB, Scott) posted his threads, it was to make an original point. Being around as long as he has at Scum, he has a right to do that type of thing because he is upset with everything that RebelScum has done to transform those once great forums into total crap.

Once again, this had nothing to do with JediDefender.

"They'll think JD is just some tiny site with a beef against RS"

I don't think this statement will be a problem with anyone, not to sound arrogant, but JD is not a tiny site by any means. Remember, not everyone who visits the site, visits the forums. We have many news breaks along with features that people come to the site for.

We hold our own ground against Scum and I am to the point where I feel, let people do what they want over there. The RebelScum administration has showed time and time again, they could care less about the forums, so if that is the case, do what you want over there. To prove a point, to be a post padder, whatever. They no longer concern me, my focus is to make THIS site better. I have given up on RebelScum and the OLD BHC forums. JediDefender.com is my focus and my site.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 12, 2003, 01:07 PM
I agree in general with what you said there Josh.  But like Chris, Cory (and Tom/Darth Kenobi) have already said - that was in individual acting on his own, and it wasn't a move that was endorsed by the crew here at JD at all.  I'd like to see things settle down between "us and them" as well, though I do feel that at least an official explanation or two is in order for some of the "unusual" occurrences over there of late (disappearing posts/threads).  I wound up wasting a lot of personal post typing time of my own over there...   :-\

But yeah, hopefully it all fizzles out soon and we can just get back to business here - talkin' Star Wars!
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: blimpyboy on August 12, 2003, 01:08 PM
All the moderating issues aside, I like these forums for the simple reason that the orange text on the blue background is much easier for me to see.  Sometimes, it's the little things in life.  

But Rebelscum really needs a big reformation, mainly by repremanding moronic/inciting members, and by better moderating policies.  Doing that would go a long way, but if it's not done soon, they're going to lose a lot more people - permanantly.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JediMAC on August 12, 2003, 01:27 PM
I joined RS not long ago, and now I'm here thanks to JediMAC  :)

Hey DJ, thanks for stopping by to check us out!  Normally, things are nice and mellow, but as you've already seen - we have a little bit of "drama" happening right now.  We hope to soon return you to your regularly scheduled JediDefender programming!   ;)

Hope you enjoy the site, and please give us a shout if you've got any questions, comments or concerns about ye' olde JD.  Looking forward to seeing you around the boards here...

- Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Vator on August 12, 2003, 01:32 PM
Rebelscum is still a cool site,and I have no beef against it.That said,the moderation for that place could be better,i.e. warnings to stay on topic or the thread will be closed.That is why JD is such a cool place,moderation on moderation.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 12, 2003, 01:39 PM
OK, time to explain my actions so people don't need to keep saying what I was trying to do...In case you didn't get to read it at RS

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

First my beef with GNT...

SNIP
Since previous threads about this subject were closed, Let this serve as my official complaint about the moderating habits of Gregg the Wonder Mod

#1  One of my posts calling out Gregg for leaving me off of his buddy list after I had done the same to him was deleted.  Gone from sight...no reason was given to me, no PM sent, no e-mail explaining why.  I assume this was done by Wonder Mod.  This is a cardinal sin of moderating, especially since no explanation was given to me as to why this was done.

#2 If any of you were around the boards last Friday night you would have saw me post 35 threads in around an hours worth of time.  Many of these were locked because they were deemed to be "Post-padding" or "Spamming" by Wonder Mod.  

From the Rebelscum Forum Rules:

 
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Spamming: Refrain from posting the same thread over and over (even under slightly different names, or in different forums), from posting the same reply again and again, or even posting multiple times in a row on a thread.
I do not see a time limit as to where and when you can make posts.  Every post I made in that time frame was of substance, asking serious questions.  I see nothing wrong which violates the rules that the powers that be have laid out here.  I believe because of some personal vendetta against me, these threads were locked...and again no reason was ever given for as to why other than "Spamming" which as I just pointed out is not true and "post-padding" which again because they weren't one line questions or roll-eyes emoticons were not of the sort either

#3  Seems to me there is a double standard here as officially licensed threads by Gregg the Wonder Mod are allowed to continue...

Guees What It Is (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=005864)
Guess Who It Is (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=007932)
Rebelscum Survivor (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=008658;p=39)

Where Wonder Mod can profoundly say..."Still Time to Vote" or "Not quite Right" 100 times a thread are allowed to continue...I guess as long as you are a moderator and it is a "game" it is OK to post pad to find out what CD a person just bought or why Bon Jovi is popular is not.

#4  Any threads or complaints put on this message board against the Wonder Mod are mysteriously deleted as was the case last Friday as was revealed to me by several people...
I would hope this thread will be left open for people to make their complaints known.  I am around the SW collecting community quite a lot and Wonder Mod's activites are not as peachy keen as you made them out to be here Jeremy...and I am not sure why you did not allow this discussion to continue

 http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=008658;p=39


Finally,

There either to be wholesale changes made to correct these issues or you will continue to lose members due to inadequate and improper moderating

I have been a member of this community pretty much since day one and have never seen it as bad as it has been in the last few months.  The site needs to take a long hard look at what is going on here and why many of the most long time members have left this site for other places.  It is a cess pool of bickering and pointless fighting which is a total reflection that shows what management here thinks or cares about the community they inherited by mistake.

Thanks for letting me state my case and I hope others are able to lodge their complaints as well before you lock this thread to see that there actually are more beefs with Gregg than what was given the other night.  And if that is not the case then so be it, I will accept your ruling and go on my way shaking my head in disgust

SNIP

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Second, I never in the farthest reaches of my mind thought this had anything at all to do with JediDefender.  If you notice I still am a member here, there and Galactic Hunter and generally like most of the people at all three places very much.  Like Josh says, if I was intent on bringing down the place I would be going about it a lot differently.  I do not want that impression at all and I think the staff will back me up and say again that this was not a site vs site sort of thing.  We all are all members there as well, we really do care about the place.

Third, my actions were my own and I have not orchestrated some conspiracy to do anything. The reasons are many: showing how inept Gregg is at moderating, bitch slapping the movement of posting drivel (this thread will be locked in, posting stupid pictures,commenting on every single topic with nothing, posting just :rolleyes:, GNT's sanctioned "games", pointing out how woefully understaffed they actually are, protesting the pointless threads that have been allowed to go on for months now, also having some fun with my rights as a poster there.  I hate what the place has become, and it has gotten worse, a lot worse in the past few weeks...this was my little wake up call to that effect, to the management, the moderation team and everyone else who posts there that there needs to be some house cleaning...moderators, members, attitudes in general

There are certain parts of the forums there I still care about, otherwise I would not go back.  I love taking part in toy discussions there because it is fun to help others out with information, get opinions on new things and since most everyone at all 3 sites I go to still interact there, it really is a melting pot of the SW community.

My suggestions...

Remove or Reprimand Dead Weight Moderators
Suspend indefinitely some of the more blatent rule busters and trolls
Hire more competent Moderators (I mean 2 times as many)
Show some respect for the members that are already there

It is a total mess right now and maybe one that will never change since I really don't think the powers that be really do care about the community at all.  Just my opinion like it or not.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on August 12, 2003, 01:52 PM
The only ties that I have to Jedi Defender is that I'm a member, I'm not staff or a moderator here and after last night I doubt I will.  I have been on those fourms a while now and have even welcomed people like Matt#1 (JediMAC), Chris Berry, and others who are on these fourms.  I was one of the originally members but lost my password and, eventually had to re-resisgter thus why I my member number is 768, I was lurking over at SSG when the great ISP cirisiss happened and followed a link by someone who lead to CSW.  Those fourms where the first online community that I have posted in and was my farovite place to go.  
What I did yesterday was something that I started out of stuipidity and angry that threads have disappered and other issues that have occoured over there since RS offically took over the fourms.  They (RS staff) have a antipost padding policy yet they encouraged GNT to post pad so that he can have 20,000 post and they created the Emperor postion for his "great" accomlishment.  If you were around in the old days you would see how great his post where exspecially the ones in the EZ Cheses thread where he eventually went to a mnod because someone posted 156 times in under a hour almost de thrown GNT for the top spot in that thread.  Then they made him a moderator after people said he would make a good one since he has so many post but he  has been taken over by the power he has closing people threads down (and keeping his open), being mean to members (Reloaded thread jumps to my mind) and the fact that threads against him have disappered from sight without a reason giving.
I have stated it before and will stated it again for the last time no one here at JD (beside me alonely fourm member) had anything to do with what happened last night.  I have been giving a warning and I'm on propation over at RS for the events of last night.  If I offened anyone here then I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Virex on August 12, 2003, 02:03 PM
A lot of you guys have already laid it down pretty well, and I don't want to be repetitive, so, if I could channel Jim Morrison for a bit, here's my philosophy:

"I don't know about you, man, but I want to get my kicks before this whole ****house goes up in flames."

I love you, Jim.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: DrunkJedi on August 12, 2003, 02:09 PM
I joined RS not long ago, and now I'm here thanks to JediMAC  :)

Hey DJ, thanks for stopping by to check us out!  Normally, things are nice and mellow, but as you've already seen - we have a little bit of "drama" happening right now.  We hope to soon return you to your regularly scheduled JediDefender programming!   ;)

Hope you enjoy the site, and please give us a shout if you've got any questions, comments or concerns about ye' olde JD.  Looking forward to seeing you around the boards here...

- Matt

Thanx for the welcome guys.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: JoshEEE on August 12, 2003, 02:27 PM
Well, I appreciate everyone's replies to what I said, and believe it or not, I share a lot of the same views about the current state of the site over there.

The difference is....I want to try to do something to help it, rather than keep tearing it down.  Sure, I could spend my day causing trouble for the one or two mods they have left over there.....but that wouldn't really be productive.

So, I've just reporting posts like crazy, doing the best I can as a member to try and help clean it up.

My advice is if you aren't please with the place, try and be part of the solution by doing that.....not part of the problem by doing things to make it worse.

And when I called JD a "tiny site", I didn't mean it in a bad way. The fact that this place is cozy is one of the cool things about it.  It's just not really well known yet. Someday it will be, and when it gets to the point of being as big as RS or any of the others....I hope that it doesn't have to go through all this stuff too.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 12, 2003, 02:38 PM
Wow! I never knew we could say "****house"!  :o

Here's my piece...

First of all, thanks to Chris for giving us this oasis from trolls. I truly feel at home here, and I'm glad to be able to freely discuss collecting with you guys. You're a great bunch. Thanks to Scott for inviting me to JD. I think if you hadn't, I would have just stopped posting altogether.

I don't go to rebelscum anymore because not only do the boards take an eon to load for some reason, but it really has become a GiaNT crap-sandwich. I don't like dealing with people who don't have an ounce of respect, and people who make their post-count the defining factor of their life (cough...GNT...cough). I used to really like 'scum for a while after the BHC/'Scum merger. But it seemed like around Episode 2, it just started to slide.

Before that I belonged to the BHC forums and the old Yakface forums. Neither place felt as alien to me as the 'Scum forums have in the past six months or so. To be honest, I almost prefer the slower pace here, and there are hardly any transients, trolls or scam artists to deal with.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jimmy on August 12, 2003, 02:41 PM
It's been a sad state there for a long time...
Though the best thing to do is watch it crumble... and it will. I know some may feel an attachment to the forums being old CSW members... but I think some take it too personal. It's something many were a part but over time things eiter get better or fall apart... we obviously know what happened in this case. If they do fall apart though you pick up and move on... beating a dead horse is just that.


Unless you co-owned the forums w/ Mr. Sullenger then really it was just a place (like JD is) to hang out...
I know many won't go there but I'm not known to be Mr. Quiet... Mike is a big part of "CSW and the old school days" turning into the garbage it has. Michael had big dreams that his little merge would've really been for the best... even after some of us told him otherwise at Toy Fair 2002. But hey it was his thing to do as he wanted...
It just sucks that now he's gone off to do yet another thing and had to leave back a community which is now in shambles... To take it so personally though is really not worth it...


I was always amazed by the Scum zombies when I was there... Anyone that remembers my thread w/ Curto knows what I mean. For some people Rebelscum can do no wrong whatsoever... and that just amazes me.


I was banned twice for my opinions basically... yes I had my things w/ some members and even a mod there... but in the end it was because of my opinions (trolling to them) I was banned.


I've been in this game for quite some time now.I have been a member of the Trade Fed (once SWCU) for a good 5 years. There was a time we had people on the list that would take any leads and run w/ them on their own. I remember countless times where news I reported on on the mailing list would turn up on SGG, Scum, etc sometimes just mere hours later. Stuff like this has been happening for years but most people never knew...
It seems to be more in your face now though w/ the forums, etc. Beyond the forums the whole site thing is about more politics than any average reader would think... or believe. It's a cut throat world out there...
My point of all this is that there are "far more" important things to worry about for some than "some forums"...
Working the next big scoop or stabbing the next mans back is a much more important time consuming activity.


Though on the flip side the forums run array and they lose the loyal readship base... but hey who cares right?
At least we got the newest scoop ou there...


I do remember a time when Scum was a respectable site and one held in higher regard... I think that unless you have the zombie fever that is far from the case now.
I have heard many people discredit them and this thread shows a lot of resentment itself in their letting the forums disintegrate into thin air...

Really there's not much left you can do... You voiced your opinion and still it goes on... I think moving on is just the best anyone can do.


Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Nicklab on August 12, 2003, 03:21 PM
I've been going there for some time, but I've had it with the place.  I don't find it conducive to collecting to spend any time at the RS forums.  I can't remember when I found something worthwile there in helping me collect.  Oh, wait, it might've been a lin

Some of the folks there are just downright rude, or don't have any point to make whatsoever.  That, or some of the discussions get too involved and too heated.  Especially when some members there start seeking personal information about the people they're having discussions, arguments, or disagreements with.  That kind of activity is not only uncalled for, but troubling as well.  It's happened in my case, and should I hear of more of such activities, I will be forced to take some measure of action.  However, I've yet to see their mods do much of anything.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Famine on August 12, 2003, 07:26 PM
It was the Episode 2-bies that ruined forums.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 12, 2003, 08:56 PM
It was the Episode 2-bies that ruined forums.

Kevin
Well, the older members said that about the Episode 1-bies, as well. I remember it because I was one. I think it's unfair to throw everyone into a barrel like that, but I have to admit - it's somewhat true.

The problem with Rebelscum lies mainly in the fact that the moderators have no respect for anyone.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: MisterPL on August 13, 2003, 05:06 PM
I gotta get this off my chest.

Anyone with "JediDefender.com" in their signature is representing JediDefender, the site, and its forums, especially if you're including the word "Administrator." Think otherwise and you're kidding yourselves. Perception is reality, and the perception is that JD.com is sending its "troops" over to RS to stir things up.

You don't like Rebelscum, don't go there. The hypocrisy of a troll-free site whose staffers regularly insult another site's moderating team on their own turf is more than I can take.

I'm pretty sure that if a RS staffer started spamming Watto's Junk Yard with 30 or 40 new threads, knocking our established threads to the second or third page, some wouldn't be too thrilled about it. (Especially if he had "Visit Rebelscum.com!" in his sig.)

On the inside, this is a warm, cozy little place, a censored safe haven free from troll-friendly hot topics. On the outside it's a bunker, pitted from shots regularly traded back and forth between staff members and forumites. It's looking less like "Cheers" and more like a high school cafeteria. Like it or not, you're wearing the same varsity jackets, fellas. You're representing our school.

I'm not happy with the way the RS forums have deteriorated either. GNT aside, the moderating crew seems part-time at best, especially at Wuher's it would seem. Perhaps if a more seasoned crew were to offer their services, order could be restored. But then it's easier to be part of the problem than the solution.

I've tried to ignore this, but after spending some time reading what's being posted by those associated with JediDefender.com, I had to say my peace. The behavior of those affiliated with this site reflects poorly on ALL of us. We should be setting the bar, leading by example.

This forum needs to rise above itself before it dares compete with any others.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 13, 2003, 05:22 PM
John

Extremely well said, I took Jimmy's advice to heart and have left RS behind...It's not worth it to me to get worked up about and there are better ways to spend my time.  I've seen the light and your words ring all to true.  Thanks...

Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Chris on August 13, 2003, 05:29 PM
I'm now going to say my piece.

I am going to speak for myself, and only myself right now. I express my feelings at RebelScum in a "less than conventional" manner these days, because they can't seem to get it through their heads that they have many problems, and do nothing to correct them. We have GNT running around doing whatever he wishes, newbies flooding the forums with worthless posts, some of the newer "regulars" post padding like there is no tommorrow. Does anything happen? Nope.

I feel a certain attachment to that board, for what it used to be at Collect Star Wars. IMO, the older members have a right to express their displeasure with the site and the administration, and this has already been done in the proper way. I suppose some would say, it was time to prove a point, and that point was proven.

Now, though I am over this, as I have stated in previous posts in this thread, and that I will no longer try to get the administration to see the light because JediDefender is what my focus is/should be. If RebelScum can't cut it, JediDefender will. I hate to see that board go down, but it has, and I can't do anything about it.

Up until recently, I have been very much against any of my staff doing some of the things that have taken place recently. A large number of my staff have been around for a long time, and as I said, I feel that it is acceptable for the older members to express their views in more extreme ways, if needed. Now that I look back at what has occured, yes, I do regret some things that took place, but I feel that it proved a point, if nothing else.

This fiasco is now over with the JediDefender team, our grievances have been vented, points proven. We can not salvage the old BHC forums. It is time to completely move on, 100%, JediDefender is the total focus.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Jesse James on August 13, 2003, 06:07 PM
I pretty much act the same at Scum now as I have in the past...  Just in a lesser capacity.  I don't post nearly like I used to...  Topics I've seen posted, reposted, and reposted yet again just don't interest me anymore.

I mostly hit up Saga or the Customs to just check things out...  And of course I post a snippit and link of my reviews as they crop up here at JD.com to each of the "Major" sites as I see them (Scum, and GH.com).  I did work for Scum in the past, it's an ok staff to talk to...  Especially Mark and Dan.  Dan's actually someone I consider a "friend" and if you know me, you know I don't keep many friends around here.  Partly because Dan works for FFURG.com where I'm also a staff member.  He's a nice guy, and his intentions for the site are of the best nature.  He just offended some.

Scum's not what it once was in the forums though.  They let certain members post over and over about the same things.  Making fun of the handicapped and people they consider "beneath" them seems to be an AOK behavior over at Scum that I just simply feel is disgusting.  How can you be allowed to actually say a whole group of people (Oh, like say retail employees) are beneath you and are scum of the Earth, and NOT get banned?  Then to repeat it over and over (Or OTHER things about OTHER groups of people), and STILL not get banned just shows a lack of caring about your site and the content/people who are visiting or posted within.

Am I bashing Scum?  Maybe...  But to me it's a simple task of better moderation.  I remember Dax being the most level-headed guy, and cracking down on people (Even me) to "break it up".  He was always civil, and even would privately let me know his personal feelings on the "flame war" that he was separating...  I just wish that before the split they maybe would've done some cleaning house at the forums because a lot of the trouble makers weren't new.

Sure a few are...  Many weren't though.  

Scum is alright, and I still stop by daily, but I just don't have the desire to be involved in many of the topics, or to associate with many of the people.  And again it boils down to the lack of policing of the boards over there.

Around here it's not as necessary right now, as more show up I'm sure it will become more necessary.  

GH.com I hop into once in a while too, and it's pretty tame...  A couple people there who I regularly agree with and like to read their posts.  Oddly, Shabbyblue was a guy I USED to not always agree with, but now I find I do tend to have a similar opinion which is odd.  How things change and all...

Anyway, Scum's alright...  The traffic is it's greatest asset though, and their customs forums are the adopted FFURG.com forums, so I do like the traffic there and try to look in and see who's doing what.  That's a big part of my hobby though...

When I want to talk collecting though, I'm finding I like to read the posts here first and foremost.  And the general topics section here is definitely more tame and I feel it's 100% better to either GH.com or Scum at this point, and I hold GH.com in pretty high regard.
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Famine on August 13, 2003, 07:55 PM
Online forums go bad. It cant be helped.

Take ol' InGenNet for instance...for you JP collectors, you'll know what I mean, and for those who dont try and follow along. InGenNet was THE place to be in the JP community, it had it all, collecting, movie discussion, artwork, all that grand stuff. Then the staff started to slack, and it went to hell. Its closed to this day, altho some one DID try and resurect it. I still have the dead link in my favorites as a memory.

Consider the Scum as you knew it the Golden Age of The Republic, and now its becoming...a must old narsty cantina...or...not.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscumians?
Post by: Scott on August 14, 2003, 02:23 PM
We have decided everything is out in the air, this thread is breeding no good will and pretty much everything has been said.  Point taken...hope things change over there for the better :)  And maybe I'll come back someday with a new outlook

So locked ;)
Title: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: HWR on February 21, 2004, 03:23 AM
This (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=013860) thread really deserves a link, this is great humor by Kneel Before Zod.

If anyone reaches it great then I'm proud of you, some achievement. Theres more important things to talk about other then post counts like "Tha Shizzolator" or "American Idol Reject Earns Instant Fame" instead of turning this thread and site into a "mine is bigger then yours" contest between members.
-quote GNT in a Rebel Scum thread.

-Henrik
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 21, 2004, 04:19 AM
Fortunately, we never joke (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=1952;start=msg38629#msg38629) about Greg(g), or his member, over here...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 21, 2004, 12:55 PM
or his member

I dont think anyone here wants to thing about GNT's "member". :-X

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 21, 2004, 01:01 PM
Greg(g) was banned from GalacticHunter, was he not?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 21, 2004, 01:33 PM
That's a suprise,really,what for?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 21, 2004, 01:34 PM
GNT posted the following in the thread at 'scum:
Quote
Ok ok you've all had your fun.  

All I can do is roll my eyes like so...  since someone actually read something I posted and decided to make a thread about it  Woohoo!  

But seriously was there a need to actually start a thread on what was said? Surely you can all giggle and laugh in private without resorting to starting a thread on it. I think it's best to leave it at that and move on.

Oh and for the record I don't think a ruler or even a tape measure is big enough for my large post count


Then, Gregg decided his panties were in a bunch over the post and locked it down.

I must be neato to be able to lock a thread out of personal interest although members and mods both are having good clean fun with it.

Oh, to be a such legend!
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 21, 2004, 01:49 PM
That's a suprise, really, what for?

I would guess a few too many of these:


.



That's a really miniature tumbleweed, of course, or an armadillo - depending on who you ask...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 21, 2004, 02:03 PM
"I'm God, so live with it."[/size]-Greg(g), GNT
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-04/GNTSistine.jpg)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 21, 2004, 02:09 PM
LOL! ;D ;D ;D ;D

THAT IS SOOOO FUNNY!

Props to you and your Photoshop skills!
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 21, 2004, 02:12 PM
Poor GNT  :'(

Perhaps I'll delete all the evidence.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 21, 2004, 07:01 PM
Poor GNT  :'(

Perhaps I'll delete all the evidence.

I don't get it. What do you mean Rob? Why would you do that?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 21, 2004, 07:30 PM
Poor GNT  :'(

Perhaps I'll delete all the evidence.

Gregg brings it on himself Rob, so don't feel bad...  Besides, he's proven to be more than capable when it comes to deleting any evidence about anything that he's not a big fan of...   ;)

Nice work Brad.   8)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 21, 2004, 08:43 PM
I keep forgetting the “ ;)” in my posts…I don’t really feel too sorry for Gregg :)

But being a fellow Mod over there, I can’t make fun as much of GNT’s pun as other members have. I tried to strike the right balance in the reply I posted in KBZ’s thread.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 21, 2004, 10:59 PM
I keep forgetting the “ ;)” in my posts…I don’t really feel too sorry for Gregg :)

But being a fellow Mod over there, I can’t make fun as much of GNT’s pun as other members have. I tried to strike the right balance in the reply I posted in KBZ’s thread.

That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the clarification.

There are a lot of threads over there that get locked way before they've gone astray. I find it frustrating to be unable to add to or question a thread in a discussion forum[/b]. Similar to a strict household, there are a lot of things that just aren't available for discussion.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: HWR on February 22, 2004, 02:21 AM
Fortunately, we never joke (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=1952;start=msg38629#msg38629) about Greg(g), or his member, over here...

Hey, I wasn't joking about  GNT in that thread, I just posted pictures of the two cousins Gregg and Greg.

-Henrik
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Diddly on February 22, 2004, 02:28 AM
GNT is such a wuss. There was no need to lock that thread. We were laughing with him, not at him.

Wait...

Were we? :-\
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 22, 2004, 05:24 AM
Greg(g) Wrote:

Quote
Ok ok you've all had your fun.  

All I can do is roll my eyes like so...  since someone actually read something I posted and decided to make a thread about it  Woohoo!  

But seriously was there a need to actually start a thread on what was said? Surely you can all giggle and laugh in private without resorting to starting a thread on it. I think it's best to leave it at that and move on.

Oh and for the record I don't think a ruler or even a tape measure is big enough for my large post count

Wow, what a way to close that topic...

Everyone was LAUGHING, and having fun.  They were taking something he said, and the way he said it, and making a joke.

Yes, everyone can laugh in private, but what the hell's the point of laughing in private if you're not gonna share it with your friends?

Someone needs to get a grip over there...  I understand Philip wanting to stand by his staff.  It's admirable, and it's loyalty that can keep friendships tight as well, but even the other mods and admin there are making fun of him here and there now.

The bigger person would've participated and laughed in the thread too.  He doesn't even acknowledge the sexual overtones when he locks it.  He simply locked it because it was, for lack of any more fitting terms, was hurting his feelings.  He was quietly stewing that the topic was even going on for a while.  

I mean, he could've LEGITIMATELY closed the topic because the discussion matter goes against the stringent rules at Scum, so why not at least lie to save some face?  Instead he just closes it like a hall monitor that just caught his feared bullies skipping class.  

How sad.

EDIT:

By the way, he even overuses the graemlins and especially the "roll eyes" one in his rebuttle, in the absolute truest GNT overexaggerated fashion.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 22, 2004, 07:36 AM
I see that KBZ now has it (the pun) in his RS signature :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 22, 2004, 12:18 PM
Ill laugh when Gregg goes on a tyrannical banning spree.

:-*

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: P'dubs on February 22, 2004, 01:00 PM
I banned them, banned them all like animals, and not just the men, but the women and children too.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Sems Fir on February 22, 2004, 02:00 PM
(http://collectibles.echostation.com/prototypes/proof/GNTb.jpg)


Robert
NOOMIVARR SECTOR
BLACK S. U. N.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 22, 2004, 05:13 PM
I'm surprised he isn't passing that off as the next hot collectible, or maybe a new E3 character.  :)

Maybe it's a set piece from a film studio he raided even?  Perhaps a Tumbleweed even?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 22, 2004, 06:27 PM
You guys are ALL going to get sued.

 ;D
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 22, 2004, 06:38 PM
Because that's really his long lost Uncle Greagg,who appeared on the unaired CBS surviovor Texas.That picture is the property of CBS,and he'll see you in court!
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 22, 2004, 07:03 PM
Not only that, but editing a picture that someone has posted on the internet for the whole world to see has GOT to be a law.

At least in Australia.  :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Durge on February 22, 2004, 07:12 PM
Finally, a place where we can speak our minds about GNT and not get the thread locked! I wonder if he's seen this yet.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 22, 2004, 07:23 PM
Quote
Posted by: Durge  Posted:
Finally, a place where we can speak our minds about GNT and not get the thread locked! I wonder if he's seen this yet.  

He probally has seen it but can't do a thing about it since he has  no control over here to lock or move topics like he does at RS.  I have to wonder who removed your topic asking him why he did that whole stuipid thing with the "." over a GH that you posted over at the Scum and what the reasoning behind it being removed since from what I saw of it was just asking a simple question on his action.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 22, 2004, 07:31 PM
Quote
Posted by: Durge  Posted:
Finally, a place where we can speak our minds about GNT and not get the thread locked! I wonder if he's seen this yet.  

He probally has seen it but can't do a thing about it since he has  no control over here to lock or move topics like he does at RS.  I have to wonder who removed your topic asking him why he did that whole stuipid thing with the "." over a GH that you posted over at the Scum and what the reasoning behind it being removed since from what I saw of it was just asking a simple question on his action.

Amen.

With as much time as Gregg spends at 'scum I believe he spends a fair amount reading other sites as well. He certainly quotes and acknowledges GH enough that I'm sure he is over there a bit.

Further, I he's makin' a list, and checkin' it twice - he's gonna find out who's naughty and nice... And then lock out those who don't tow his line.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 22, 2004, 07:43 PM
Quote
Finally, a place where we can speak our minds about GNT and not get the thread locked! I wonder if he's seen this yet.

Well folks, it's an interesting topic, but it should be noted that when Gregg was upset about his picture being up over here at JD, the staff here did take it down for him. I'm sure if this thread continues to get nastier, I would assume that the staff here would probably not let it get out of control either. Fun is one thing, but mean-spirit is another.

A thread making fun of or "calling out" GNT or any other member is going to get locked over there, unless that person is ok with it and wants it left alone, which I dont' think was the case.

I'm sure if most of you had a thread started about you for something stupid you did, and a bunch of people piling on, you'd want it locked up too.

 :)

As much fun as it is to poke some fun at the guy from time to time, he definitely gets more than his share. For post padding, for the whole "Gregg vs. Greg" incident and the pictures he tried so hard to explain away, I'd say he's probably had enough teasing for 10 members put together.

I'm not saying he doesn't bring a lot of it on himself, and I know I've teased him many a time myself in the spirit of fun.

I'm just saying that he gets a lot of crap, and deserves protection from threads about him as much as anyone else does.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 22, 2004, 09:00 PM
Well,that does bring up a good point.

GNT,while an inept mod,in my experience has been pretty kind.Sure,he does bring on a certain amount of things apon himself,he dosen't deserve to be hated.

However,I have to wonder if there is something I've missed,so action taken by gregg to make him so hated other than post padding or being the worst mod ever.

FYI,a GNT is registered at this site.So he is wachting.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 22, 2004, 09:03 PM
I agree, and I actually had no problem with GNT up till he started to annoy even myself with thread locking, thread moving, etc...  That's been just within the last few months really that I've "had my fill", so to speak.

Things won't get too out of hand here, but there are two keys here that I see.

1) "He brings it on himself".  That he does...  I was willing to let him prove himself, and sadly he did, but he proved that he wasn't going to shy away from his past too much.  Even if he were a 50/50 mod over with you guys Josh, I'd be more forgiving personally.  Sadly, he's a below 50/50 mod at best I think.  To most of us who DO frequent over there, that's disconcerting that he's still a mod at all.

2) His actual level of power there allows any criticism to be curbed immediately.  Criticism he deserves, and MAYBE could learn from as someone in authority, but criticism he chooses to simply cease because he doesn't like to be crossed.

That's pretty BS to me...  I think that's why people are venting here and not much is being said otherwise.  I mean, even some of your staff see the same issue we do, so there's a problem I think.

And on a side note regarding Scum, Josh, and myself:   I apologize for you having to step in on that thread about Editing over there Josh, but I think my words ring true there.  I think you agree with me even.  Hell, GNT agreed with me on the topic too I believe...  His point was pretty valid too.  That topic went off-topic from the start though, sadly, when nobody would answer Durge seriously, but just sarcastically with one-line posts and a  ::) graemlin.  Typical.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Durge on February 22, 2004, 09:15 PM
 That topic went off-topic from the start though, sadly, when nobody would answer Durge seriously, but just sarcastically with one-line posts and a  ::) graemlin.  Typical.


Sad, but true.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Deanpaul on February 22, 2004, 09:17 PM

And on a side note regarding Scum, Josh, and myself:   I apologize for you having to step in on that thread about Editing over there Josh, but I think my words ring true there.  I think you agree with me even.  Hell, GNT agreed with me on the topic too I believe...  His point was pretty valid too.  That topic went off-topic from the start though, sadly, when nobody would answer Durge seriously, but just sarcastically with one-line posts and a  ::) graemlin.  Typical.

I thought I answered Durge seriously in that thread.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 22, 2004, 09:23 PM
He dosen't mean every reply.

Though,I did say who cares.Just I justified it by explaining.Durge,you did get some awnser to your question,right?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 22, 2004, 10:53 PM
Yeah, you did Dean...  A couple did actually, including myself, Josh, GNT, you, Vator...  

A TON of others turned it into a series of "Who cares?" posts and "I'll second that", "I'll third that", etc...

Now, some of the people who posted weren't BAD posters in general over there by any stretch.  KBZ was one who said that I believe, and KBZ generally is a productive person.  I think Dressel maybe said "Who cares" or something like that and he tends to not post wastefully.

Sadly though, some of the participants were people who DON'T participate, and I think posting "who cares" is silly because obviously Durge did, and obviously so did a few others.  It was a valid topic.

My remarks were, mostly, aimed at those who habitually post uselessly.  IE: Kids, idiots, etc...  The point struck a nerve with one particular 14 year old over there, and subsequently got him on me to the point Josh had to step in (This is all for the people oblivious to what I'm talking about).

And I see Josh closed the topic down actually now...

I don't want this to go off-topic, I just saw Josh participating here and wanted to make sure he knew I was sorry.

The topic was even one GNT posted in responsibly actually!  :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 22, 2004, 11:07 PM
Special thanks to Henrik for keeping the thread/joke alive - the minute I posted that I knew GNT would bring down the Iron Fist of moderation as soon as he saw it....too bad the guy can't take a frickin' joke...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 23, 2004, 12:52 AM
Boy, good thing I didn't say anything deragatory about Greg(g) in that thread...   :P
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 23, 2004, 01:30 AM
He's gonna hate you as much as Scott in another two or three posts. :)

Let him though.  He needs to accept that his behavior's gonna breed contempt from many.  That's the one thing I disagree with when posts critcizing him are canned.  He's not LEARNING anything from those posts, just simply closing them and playing it off like it never happened.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 23, 2004, 10:12 AM
Well, as sure as the sun does shine, I just recieved this message from Gregg:



Kneel Before Zod,

Joke or no joke I don't wish to have what I said posted from that thread in your signature any longer, while not as bad as previous quotes used I don't wish to have what I posted used as signature fodder. I'd rather contact you first to change it rather then having your signature blocked altogether which I don't want to do. So if you could remove the quote that would be very appreciated.


quote:
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Signatures may not make fun of other forum members. Examples of this would include quoting a member, including something somebody said about a member, or linking to a forum thread or post that may not have been a members most proud moment.

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So the quote has been added to my signiture here - I hope that doesn't break any rules.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 23, 2004, 10:22 AM
My signature a while back was mysteriously altered by the powers that be there, Greg(g) told me once that all I do is go into threads and complain and then leave, ZING!

My two biggest beefs with him is the fact that any little thing is said against him and he tattles and locks or deletes threads

The other is the fact that people can only post in threads that he starts on a given subject, any new thread is locked and you are forced to talk in his.  However, if you start a thread and duplicates start popping up they are allowed to continue.  Especially when your truly is the thread starter.  I found that starting said threads was an effective way to keep him strangely silent.  Which in my book is a good thing :P
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 23, 2004, 10:34 AM
Does he ever come around here?  Or does he avoid it because these posts aren't linked to his RS post count?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 23, 2004, 10:37 AM
He's registered here, he read the original picture thread and threatened legal action

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=viewprofile;user=GNT

Because most of his favorite people post here he has wisely avoided posting, I will say that a large part of our community was actually built on that fact alone :P
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 23, 2004, 11:49 AM
I will say that a large part of our community was actually built on that fact alone :P

It's what has me here today.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 23, 2004, 11:53 AM
Yeah, I recall his pics being what drug him here and made him finally say something.  It was amusing unto itself to see him come out of the shadows to speak only to say "Stop it or I'll sue you".

Here's a funny post over at Scum from a guy that works with me over at FFURG doing chat moderator stuff...  

http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=000676

Justin (Jediraven) is generally in a sullen mood, kind of how Brad would pee on everyone's thread, but I think Justin's generally this angry.  :)  Gotta love the guy sometimes just because he's so blunt.

"Thanks, God!" pretty much made me laugh out loud when I read it.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 23, 2004, 03:52 PM
Well, as sure as the sun does shine, I just recieved this message from Gregg:



Kneel Before Zod,

Joke or no joke I don't wish to have what I said posted from that thread in your signature any longer, while not as bad as previous quotes used I don't wish to have what I posted used as signature fodder. I'd rather contact you first to change it rather then having your signature blocked altogether which I don't want to do. So if you could remove the quote that would be very appreciated.


quote:
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Signatures may not make fun of other forum members. Examples of this would include quoting a member, including something somebody said about a member, or linking to a forum thread or post that may not have been a members most proud moment.

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So the quote has been added to my signiture here - I hope that doesn't break any rules.

I find it funny that he complins when it is his qoute in the sig line but, as far as I know doesn't do anything to those sig lines of others on the board that qoute other members.  I been in the WandP thread from time to time and have seen it there where both sides use each other's qoutes on their sig lines.  I can't find alot of it now but know a few people have qoutes about other members at the fourms there.  Once again we see that Greg(g) is god. ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 23, 2004, 04:14 PM
a large part of our community was actually built on that fact alone :P
True,but it wasn't just GNT.It was the entire meltdown of 'Scum last summer.I'd say it was about four or five ''pioneers'' that advertised JD as being the utopian site.And that's what drew me here,away from the ''Third Riech of Rebelscum'',even though they showed more Stalinistic tactics than anything.
GNT,however,along with Philip and some other mods were the main culprtus of the degeneration.You know now that I think about it it was alot like a authoritarian take over.Lets look at it:
Social upheaval:EP2 influx,GH exodus,numerous trolls,and a down fall in overall quality.
Result:RS became a police state,with numerous mods and spies for mods.Unknowing(or uncaring)masses followed these new rules.Posts were censored and therefore the mods began to control thought.Many were banned,many were threatend.
So,if RS was indeed a authoritarian goverment(lets just say the USSR for reference,even thouugh the preamble was not the same for Stalins rise),GNT would be the equvalent of the NEP(that was the secrect police in Stalinist Russia?)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 23, 2004, 04:53 PM
I find it funny that he complins when it is his qoute in the sig line but, as far as I know doesn't do anything to those sig lines of others on the board that qoute other members.  I been in the WandP thread from time to time and have seen it there where both sides use each other's qoutes on their sig lines.  I can't find alot of it now but know a few people have qoutes about other members at the fourms there.  Once again we see that Greg(g) is god. ::)

Yep, because most of the people in WAP know how to take a joke.  Gregg just brings it down harder on himself with his constant whining and moderating...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: jjks on February 23, 2004, 06:03 PM
Phillip sent me a rather nasty email threatening toban me back when I had  a GNT quote as my sig. If he is lacking in common sense to make comments like he does, I don't understand why we can't make light of it in our sigs. Perks of being the all knowing Mod I suppose.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darby on February 23, 2004, 07:29 PM
I know the general nonsense revolving around 'Scum last year is what sent me here, and I'm glad, because here you have intelligent conversation.  You rarely do there.  It's sort of like a classroom run by one of the kids.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 23, 2004, 08:34 PM
Isnt there a petition to have him de-modded?

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 23, 2004, 11:33 PM
Isnt there a petition to have him de-modded?

Kevin
    I don't know of any petition to have him de-modded over there.  If there was one I would defently sign it in a heartbeat.  I think that it would be hard to get such an petition on the site since alot of people who are there now don't know the GNT of a few years ago (the old CSW days of the fourms).  At that time he was a post padder who ended up getting a thread closed, EZ Cheese (which lead to the EZ CHeese icon at the Scum), because another fourm member had posted in that thread about 250 times in a 1/2 hour time period.  This gived this person the chance to de-thrown GNT (who setup a game in the thread of giving different titles to people who post most in this thread).  GNT was of course King but he felt threaten by this other poster and went and complined to a Mod about the other poster's actions, even through GNT did the samething but in a different time period.
    There are many other things that he has done since he became Emperor (a truibite to his post padding, which I thought wasn't something to be celebrated at Scum) and then becuase of his high post count the younger people wanted him to be a mod since he had a lot of time on his hand it seemed.  Many of us seen him take this power of being a Mod to close threads which came after his thread which is just a copy of a news article, give stuipid comments like the coins and the Cloud Car Pilot, and many more examples of his ego.  
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 24, 2004, 01:23 AM
CorranHorn (Jason) Just brought it to my attention too, about that thread I'd mentioned earlier about "Edit Etiquette".

The guy who was "fighting" with me in t hat thread (Dutch Cattle) decided to quote me in his signature.  He didn't really even make much sense of his use of my words.  It isn't insulting to me that I can tell, as I think the quote was funny personally, but he did it to spite me nonetheless because he simply doesn't like me.

Now, no mods are stepping up to my defense on that signature...  Not that I mind even.  I don't care.  It's not a big deal...  But Jason made a good point that if GNT is gonna cry about being quoted then why aren't I being defended from "attack" by such idiots over there?  

It's obvious that it's deemed not important enough by the mods to bother with (against the rules or not) and that's fine since it doesn't bother me, but it just reinforces the point that GNT really was just CRYING to KBZ when he made him remove his signature quoting ole Greg over there.

That's so silly and juvenile...  I'm dealing with it, and so could GNT.  I'll be damned if I'd go crying to some schmuck who decided to quote me in his sig, and give them the satisfaction of knowing they actually WERE bothersome to me.  
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2004, 01:44 AM
You guys are almost acting as if this "GNT throws a hissy about being quoted in someone's sig" thing is some kind of new phenomenon.

No--this same type of sh!t happened last summer/fall, when at least three other people (myself, jjks, and OCB) had (mostly) harmless Gregggggg quotes in their sigs.  

Of course, since he spends more time posting than actually reading, it took him a while to catch on, but as soon as he did, the PM's and threats of "total signature removal" started.

Just like the GH thing with him--he feels like he's getting picked on (which he is, but which he also deserves), but rather than being cool about it and playing along, he chooses to take his ball and go home.  Which, of course, is just a feeding frenzy.

Personally, I have no problem with someone else quoting me in their sigs (and vice versa), but it's more than obvious that Greggggggg is incredibly sensitive about anything said about him--you get the feeling that he knows he sucks, but just doesn't want anyone else to "know" it.

It'll never happen, but he should really take a break from the internet for a year or two to grow up--drink some beer, bang some guys girls, and get into some trouble, like the 18-year-olds are supposed to do.  Like I said, no chance of that happening--no chance of him maturing or becoming "cool" or anything--but he should.

In related news, I got an e-mail from his mom, and even she doesn't like him.

But I love him.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 01:56 AM
In related news, I got an e-mail from his mom, and even she doesn't like him.

You know Vicki too?!   8)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2004, 02:07 AM
In related news, I got an e-mail from his mom, and even she doesn't like him.

You know Vicki too?!   8)

Know her?  

Let's just say. . .  I'm her baby daddy.

(http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/images/smilies/naughty.gif)

Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darby on February 24, 2004, 02:24 AM
 :o
 ;)

You can see some Greg stylin' going on over in the Fan's Choice #6 poll at Scum right now.  Good lord.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: CorranHorn on February 24, 2004, 02:36 AM
GNT's biggest problem that I've seen is he often types before realizing what he's about to type. He's had many instances where he's clearly said something that he obviously had no clue about and when he's been corrected in a calm manner by someone else, he doesn't retract his previous statements, he will most times just ignore the correction and continue on talking as if what he said is the gospel. This has often translated to the many situations where he will lock threads cause he's been outted as being wrong. I think he just needs to accept that he can be wrong and just let it all wash over in a non-confrontive manner, if he does he'll be a better mod and a better person for it. If not, he's going to keep getting the same hassles he constantly gets because he deserves them....
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: MisterPL on February 24, 2004, 11:04 AM
The bottom line seems to be that Gregg is ineffective as a moderator, if only because he comes off as a hypocrite and therefore commands little if any respect from the membership.

I supported GNT's nomination as a mod mostly because of his even temper and his omnipresence on the board; two things RS was in dire need of at the time.

Now it is clear that he can only influence members through force rather than true leadership. It's time for a recall. I just hope that when Gregg does leave his mod position, he doesn't run around editing his old posts with "." like he did at GH.

The boy's got some growin' up to do.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 11:14 AM
:o
 ;)

You can see some Greg stylin' going on over in the Fan's Choice #6 poll at Scum right now.  Good lord.

The best thing about that thread is where Pickles slams him over telling people not to post the scores more than once per page.

Which is even funnier, because Greg's warning came about 9 posts after I requested the same thing - I guess his word carries more weight... ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jesse James on February 24, 2004, 11:22 AM
Of course...  He's God and all.

The best you can hope for's Jesus at this point, and to merely speak for the omnipotent one only as an amplifier.  Spreading the gospel of ignorance.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 11:51 AM

It's time for a recall.

I second that.

 I wonder how one would go about asking for a Mod to step down and what amount of the general members you would need to support this effort.  I know people asked for Kidd to be dropped as a Moderator when his power trip started to happen a year or two back and the staff removed him or he stepped down.  Maybe someone should start a petition asking to have the staff to remove him or for Greg(g) to step down and give up his powers.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 12:03 PM
Phillip sent me a rather nasty email threatening toban me back when I had  a GNT quote as my sig.

Scott and I both got our warnings of being banned this morning from Philip as well, for harrassing the little clown Greg(g)...   ::)

Know her?  

Let's just say. . .  I'm her baby daddy.

You're her baby's daddy?!?   :o  You're GNT's dad?!?  Holy $h!t!!!   :o  Why would you claim responsibility for that, ya' big dumbass?!   :-X
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: MisterPL on February 24, 2004, 12:09 PM
Kidd was going WAY over the line from the start. Gregg seems to ebb and flow with his power trips.

Still, if a substantial number of members call for his removal and give good reasons behind it, the administration has to take note. It certainly wouldn't be the first time.

Maybe someone should start a thread in the Feedback forum calling for members fed up with Gregg to address their concerns there as well as by e-mailing Philip.

Call it a vote of no confidence.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 12:13 PM
Phillip sent me a rather nasty email threatening toban me back when I had  a GNT quote as my sig.

Scott and I both got our warnings of being banned this morning from Philip as well, for harrassing the little clown Greg(g)...   ::)


What does Greg(g) have on Phillip to control him over there.  If you talk about Greg(g) then you are harrasing you but he can do whatever he wants and doesn't lose any of his moderation rights.  I'm about ready to type up that petition asking for Greg(g) to either be removed or step down.  All I need now is specific examples of his abuse of powers and people who would be supportive to this move and sign without fearing they will be banned at RS.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: smileyfaceguy on February 24, 2004, 12:31 PM
 8)(http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/thumbup.gif)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 01:09 PM
Phillip sent me a rather nasty email threatening toban me back when I had  a GNT quote as my sig.

Scott and I both got our warnings of being banned this morning from Philip as well, for harrassing the little clown Greg(g)...   ::)


What does Greg(g) have on Phillip to control him over there.  If you talk about Greg(g) then you are harrasing you but he can do whatever he wants and doesn't lose any of his moderation rights.  I'm about ready to type up that petition asking for Greg(g) to either be removed or step down.  All I need now is specific examples of his abuse of powers and people who would be supportive to this move and sign without fearing they will be banned at RS.

Do it!

And post it in the suggestions and feeback forum...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 01:31 PM
Petition is up for now. Petition (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=013898)
If you want to add you name and don't live in fear of being ban sign it. :)
Let's see how long it last.  I'm going to check it out once I get back from school.  I figure its going to be closed by the time I get home.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 24, 2004, 02:00 PM
You should have gotten an actual petition, not simply a thread saying 'Post here'... First off, you've already gotten a bunch of random comments from people who aren't interested in 'saving' RS; secondly, a lot of us have already been banned from RS, thus we're unable to post our 'signatures'.

I don't really care what happens to RS. Philip Wise doesn't give a damn about RS either, it seems.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Mikey D on February 24, 2004, 02:29 PM
And its already closed.

I particularly like Greg(g)'s creative use of  acronyms   ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 24, 2004, 02:44 PM
Actually it’s only been moved the Suggestions section.

I would STRONGLY advise reading the post by Josh before adding anything to the thread.

This is all pretty lame…hounding out an unpaid person. Who’s going to want the job in future after all this?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 24, 2004, 02:52 PM
Do you get hounded on Rob, does any other mod get hounded on, his ineptitude is costing RS members I don't see why people don't see that over there
Title: Who moderates the moderators?
Post by: MisterPL on February 24, 2004, 03:08 PM
This is all pretty lame…hounding out an unpaid person.

Are you referring to GNT or us?

Gregg's taking things way too seriously over there. From what I can tell, it's a classic example of a power trip; following the letter of the law rather than its spirit.

It's a discussion board for toys, not a debate club. Gregg's acting like a hall monitor, not a moderator. It was a mistake to put someone who's life obviously revolves around the board in a position of power. He's taking everything personally and refuses to admit when he's made mistakes.

Honestly, if he does get ousted, I hope Philip's got a good backup. I certainly wouldn't put it past Gregg to start editing his old threads out of spite. He's done it before.

On one hand, I feel sorry for him if only because he's just not mature enough to handle the responsibility. Unfortunately, he's never commanded the kind of respect other mods have PRIOR to taking on their positions. At most, he was a board mascot.

Gregg needs to hone his socialization skills a lot more, as well as put his money where his mouth is when it comes to post counts. If post counts REALLY aren't such an issue at RS, then Philip should just get rid of them altogether. If that's not possible, Gregg should retire "Bounty Hunter GNT" and start fresh under a new name and post count.

But that would be setting an example, that would show leadership. So far the only lasting examples he's left behind are a padded post count,  several petty thread closings, and a demonstrated inability to be the slightest bit humble.

Gregg's the one that needs moderation. Still.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 24, 2004, 03:12 PM
Do you get hounded on Rob, does any other mod get hounded on,
Not at the moment, but if I start making a few mistakes, of Heaven forbid, expressing a few opinions, who knows? If I were Philip, I might feel a bit backed into a corner over all this.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 03:19 PM
You should have gotten an actual petition, not simply a thread saying 'Post here'... First off, you've already gotten a bunch of random comments from people who aren't interested in 'saving' RS; secondly, a lot of us have already been banned from RS, thus we're unable to post our 'signatures'.

I don't really care what happens to RS. Philip Wise doesn't give a damn about RS either, it seems.

Sorry about that I was in a rush at the time.  If anyone has a good petition site LMK so I can start one up and paste it in the thead.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 03:19 PM
Petition is up for now. Petition (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=013898)
If you want to add you name and don't live in fear of being ban sign it. :)
Let's see how long it last.

About as long as I expected.  Don't live in fear of being banned?  I know I would've the moment I typed the letter "M" in that thread.  Several threads I'm interested in commenting on over there, but if I did, it'd likely be my last comment there.

..a lot of us have already been banned from RS, thus we're unable to post our 'signatures'.

Or soon will be.  I'm just curious if the other 100+ RS members that are also currently bashing the crap out of GNT over there have gotten banning notices from Philip too, or if it was just Scott and I...  Pretty sure I already know the answer to that though.

I particularly like Greg(g)'s creative use of  acronyms

What, you mean this "BOTC" (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=008459;p=1#000001) nonsense?!   ::)  What a clown.  I'm sure he's trying to get another saying of his to become "the norm" - like Thoughts?  Hopefully he realizes that most of the time people write Thoughts? it's just to mock him.   :P  Actually, what Greg(g)'s doing there is just trying to keep the two lines straight in his head, since he was having some serious confusion (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000624;p=1#000003) about them before.  Even Dustin had to holler at him (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000624;p=1#000007) that he was flat-out wrong about it and to stop his yappin'...   8)

Greg(g), I know that you're reading this thread (and that it's driving you insane that you can't edit/delete/hide it).  You have an open account (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=;action=viewprofile;user=GNT) here at JD, so please feel free to defend yourself if you'd like.  Please, let us know your...

Thoughts?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 03:21 PM
This is all pretty lame…hounding out an unpaid person. Who’s going to want the job in future after all this?

Rob, the point is that none of the other mods there are getting hounded like this.  Just Greg(g) for the most part, and there's a very obvious reason for that, and the big problem is that that reason is being completely overlooked...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 24, 2004, 03:25 PM
Quote
Do you get hounded on Rob, does any other mod get hounded on, his ineptitude is costing RS members I don't see why people don't see that over there

I do. All the time. Some people say I'm a "horrible mod" for this or that. I mean, granted....I don't think a topic about me would sustain 5 or 10 pages of interested replies....but I definitely have my "haters".  I think the big difference is, I respond to those critics and even encourage them to work it out with me in PM. I REALLY don't want to let a stupid title on a Star Wars board make me an a-hole to anyone.


I appealed to Rob to move that to the feedback section (where it belongs) and I also asked that people post REASONS in there...rather than just "GNT should burn in hell" kind of posts. Maybe he's overzealous in some ways, but doesn't everyone deserve the chance to know WHY they're hated?  


I also find it odd that we're all RS members discussing this RS topic over here, but I guess if this is where it's happening, so be it.   ;D
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Mikey D on February 24, 2004, 03:29 PM
Exactly, Matt.  I only glanced at the "confusion" link you provided but after one or two Gregg posts, I knew I couldn't take the rambling and just closed it.  The whole OTC thing isn't that hard to figure out, its not quantum physics for Christ sakes.

I'm sure once he wakes up, which should be soon as its 6:30 am down under, he'll have some well thought out rebuttal.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 03:32 PM
Petition is up for now. Petition (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=013898)
If you want to add you name and don't live in fear of being ban sign it. :)
Let's see how long it last.

About as long as I expected.  Don't live in fear of being banned?  I know I would've the moment I typed the letter "M" in that thread.  Several threads I'm interested in commenting on over there, but if I did, it'd likely be my last comment there.


I have a feeling that this will be another nail in my coffin over there since I posted all of those threads a few months ago which got me a warning from Jermey.  As for the thread I will try to get examples of Greg(g)'s problems (so if any of you guys have any let me know  ;)) and post them in there to let others know.  
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 03:32 PM
I'm sure once he wakes up, which should be soon as its 6:30 am down under, he'll have some well thought out rebuttal.

Yes, but it will most likely be made to Philip, and not posted in that thread.   ;)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 24, 2004, 03:36 PM
I think both of you guys do excellent jobs being a moderator and I give much more kudos than you think, I realize the immensity of the site and its traffic make it an impossible job.  This is something we don't have to deal with at all, that is either a testament to our members or the fact that our site is rather homey in nature.  The problem with the site IMO is that things have festered for so long that it is just complete and total anarchy right now.  Does Phil really think by banning Matt and me that his problems will be solved and he'll have a better community because of it, that is complete and utter BS.  People hated Sonic Death (RIP), in fact people cheered when he was banned, I think more people hate GNT...and to reiterate since I cannot publicly criticize him anymore, my Thoughts on his poor moderating are clearly laid out on page three of this thread
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Mikey D on February 24, 2004, 03:37 PM
I'm sure once he wakes up, which should be soon as its 6:30 am down under, he'll have some well thought out rebuttal.

Yes, but it will most likely be made to Philip, and not posted in that thread.   ;)

Then I guess I can expect a warning to be forthcoming.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 04:15 PM
The drama's a heatin' up eh?

Even if he isn't de-modded, which he probably won't be - At very least maybe GNT will take all this trashing to heart and try to tone it down a bit - or ideally, tone it down a lot.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JoshEEE on February 24, 2004, 04:19 PM
Quote
Even if he isn't de-modded, which he probably won't be - At very least maybe GNT will take all this trashing to heart and try to tone it down a bit - or ideally, tone it down a lot.  

If it were a thread about me, I would.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: smileyfaceguy on February 24, 2004, 04:20 PM
whatever happens, i think this is the most successful thread henrik wulff rasmussen ever started.

 :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 24, 2004, 04:32 PM
whatever happens, i think this is the most successful thread henrik wulff rasmussen ever started.

 :)
Bzzzzzt (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=009166)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 24, 2004, 04:43 PM
Best...S.F.G....post...ever  :)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: jadesfire on February 24, 2004, 05:05 PM
All I can say is (besides that I have a lot of time on my hands right now) is that I am EXTREMELY happy that none of this stuff happens (and not much gets locked down) in the props forum at RS because it's the only place left (I think) that actually can hold decent conversations in threads about the actual catagory.  

That was extremely long sentence...whew.

I also don't think much will change with the problem of Greg/Gregg/GNT/God (or whatever his name is at RS ) because the membership has changed so much and he seems to truly believe that what he bans/locks/deletes is in the best interest of the forums.
Every once in a blue moon I surf all the forums and many of the threads at RS and thank our own CB that he created this place and that I can find all the answers to questions I have and the commradery of good friends.

I wonder if the bar is still open...after this long winded speech, I need a drink.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2004, 05:11 PM
Hey look, some one took my idea and is calling for the fall of GNT.

Im game. For too long have I lurked there and seen his underhanded police moderating.

"I'm God, so deal with it."


Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Jeff on February 24, 2004, 05:31 PM
Wow.

What a thread!

I, too, dislike GNT.  

His style, his attitude, his "stay on topic every 5 posts" posts, his blatant re-posting news from other sites where he basically starts a thread on every news item then locks all other threads on the subject.

The thing that bugs me most though is when he pulls something out of his @$$ (Ewok Mom w/Woklings, etc), passes it off as fact/truth (usually going so far as to claim another non-scum site said it first when usually site B never said it) then ignores any critisism when he is wrong.

There are countless examples of times he states something as true when he has NO factual basis for it.  Then, when he is proven wrong (OTC) or told he has things backwards, often his tactic is to delete the post that proved him wrong and edit his original post so it looks like he was right all along, thus ignoring the whole thing as JesseJames stated earlier.

ADMIT IT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG, MAN!

If you pull things out of your @$$, you are gonna get it wrong.  At least be a man and say "Geez, I guess I was wrong: OTC and vOTC are different lines".  Unfortunately, all we ever get are "Whatever, it's all still Saga anyway" answers at best.

Between him and Curto's "Look at this new Figure!  Oops!  It's a custom. Gotcha!" crap, I barely look at 'scum anymore, only to compare big things like ToyFair or the Convention coverages, then I check out all the big sites.

Jeff
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 06:03 PM
His style, his attitude, his "stay on topic every 5 posts"

This is one of my biggest gripes too.   I can understand if a conversation has gone totally off track, but he won't let a conversation evolve or let you make a joke without giving you crap for it.

One time, I believe it was Old Cocky, was talking about this uncle Jesse

(http://pages.sbcglobal.net/awhale/uncle_jesse/images/pyle.jpg)

So I post an image of this uncle jesse:

(http://www.wwujd.com/contactunclejesse_files/Uncle-Jesse-2.jpg)

I come back an hour later - GNT has deleted my post, without warning or anything.  He didn't edit it - he frickin' deleted it.

Blah.  It's not like I called him a douche bag or anything....
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Diddly on February 24, 2004, 06:09 PM
Too late to join the discussion, but I will say that I'm fed up with Greg(g), and I'm glad someone started a removal petition (Although he'll just close the thread and move it to his "Secret Spot").

JoshEEE, you could move those threads back to the public, right?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 06:20 PM
The thing that bugs me most though is when he pulls something out of his @$$ (Ewok Mom w/Woklings, etc), passes it off as fact/truth (usually going so far as to claim another non-scum site said it first when usually site B never said it) then ignores any critisism when he is wrong.

There are countless examples of times he states something as true when he has NO factual basis for it.  Then, when he is proven wrong (OTC) or told he has things backwards, often his tactic is to delete the post that proved him wrong and edit his original post so it looks like he was right all along, thus ignoring the whole thing as JesseJames stated earlier.

ADMIT IT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG, MAN!

If you pull things out of your @$$, you are gonna get it wrong.  At least be a man and say "Geez, I guess I was wrong: OTC and vOTC are different lines".  Unfortunately, all we ever get are "Whatever, it's all still Saga anyway" answers at best.

As I've similarly stated elsewhere - that's exactly my biggest beef with him right now Jeff.  You nailed it on the head.  Yeah, his heavy handed and oft hypocritical moderating is pathetic, but it's his frequent outright denials that he was wrong about xyz, and adamant refusal to say "I goofed" about anything that's really bothering me now, and is what finally made me start speaking up about him over there.  Up until about a week ago, I've generally ignored most of his $h!tty moderating.  But when he started misinforming and confusing the hell out of all the RS members about things lately, turning their Saga forums into a state of mass confusion with a hundred posts about "wait, what's this line vs. that one?", it was the final straw.

BTW Jeff, you can actually say "ass" here if you'd like...   ;)  Yeah, I know.  We're cool like that!   :P

I also don't know why he thinks he can just randomly start saying that he KNOWS about such and such figure as being confirmed, when not a single collecting site on the net has any such confirmation.  It's as if he thinks people will believe anything he says now just because he says it...   ::)  That whole "Coin" vs. "Medallion" thing, and the prototype arguement, were absolutely classic as well!  I think he really does think he's God now...   :-\

Then I guess I can expect a warning to be forthcoming.

Nah, you and the rest of the other GNT bashers over at RS are perfectly fine Mikey.  It's just Scott and I that are apparently on Philip's $h!tlist, for whatever reason.  Persistence, I'd guess.   8)

In closing, I'd just like to acknowledge Gregg's cousin Greg, aka "The Master", once more...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob L on February 24, 2004, 06:25 PM
JoshEEE, you could move those threads back to the public, right?
GNT can't move it out of the current area - it's not one of his sections.

Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 24, 2004, 06:45 PM
Well I added to the scum post. Not much but I do support it for various reasons. I used to frequent scum and have been a member there for a lenght of time longer than here. The reason I have basically stopped being a part of most threads at scum is the lack of respect both on a member and mod level. I have had my differnces with Philip in the past and in my mind have some unresolved issues with him but o well. I will admit I never really cared for GNT and his attitude and as of late it is worse.
 I don't really care about post counts but I will say mine are more than twice as much here than there(scum) .  The whole reason behind that is the fact I like the people here and like to interact with them. Why. I consider quite a lot of people here friends and I like that everyone usually treats others well. Forms rounded discussions and helps each other with out the air of being superior.
 GNT is just the tip of the iceberg at scum but if he is demoted it is a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Matt on February 24, 2004, 07:00 PM
You're her baby's daddy?!?   :o  You're GNT's dad?!?  Holy $h!t!!!   :o  Why would you claim responsibility for that, ya' big dumbass?!   :-X

Dude, what other comeback did I have to "You know Vicki too?!?!"

You're lucky you already cashed the check, man.

-----

As far as Gregggggg goes, again, the other mods don't catch the sh!t that he does is because, simply put, they're not anywhere near his level of suck.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 24, 2004, 07:13 PM
As a form of civil resistance I've dropped out of survivor,I don't think the game can go on with two players gone,or can it?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2004, 07:57 PM
And Phillip the Wise closed it.


Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 07:58 PM
And Phillip the Wise closed it.


Kevin

You beat me to it...

Man he sure brought the hammer down:

Quote
This is not how moderators come and go in this forum

Sounds like GNT really is God.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: P'dubs on February 24, 2004, 08:02 PM
Damn I give you info Kev and you mis use it. I wanted to be the one to break the news. OH well.

Seeing that the tides had turned in there seeing that everyone was suddenly against Durge (which is really weird) it was about time to close it. Too many of the Mods were getting pissed.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 08:10 PM
Sounds like GNT really is God.

Indeed.


I'll never understand it...   ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Sems Fir on February 24, 2004, 08:14 PM
JediMac wrote:

"That whole "Coin" vs. "Medallion" thing, and the prototype arguement, were absolutely classic as well!"

Since I was one of the main culprits for proving GNT wrong in the Xizor thread I will state that I personally, don't have it out for GNT (despite my picture with comment added that I posted earlier in this thread).  Yes, he made himself look completely foolish in yet another one of his classic performances.  Gregg was doing his best to save his pride / ego but he ran into a couple of individuals who take the time to research about this hobby that we all share, and we could back up what was stated, while he knew he could not and his best effort was speculation.  If you notice Gregg disappeared once the Naboo fighter first shot images were posted as he had no defense against tangible evidence.  Plus, I knew that he did not know anyone of the employees who worked on either the Xizor figure or the Naboo fighter.  He did dance around many questions (that still are / went unanswered) as Gregg knew that he couldn't respond to them.  The now classic sig line "I'm God, so live with it" was such a poor comment to make, considering it showed how uneducated he proved himself to be in the hobby, and it also showcased his lack of intelligence when debating a topic, in particular a topic he knows nothing about.

I have great respect for JoshEEE for leaving the thread open.  I would've expected GNT to close the thread himself (if he could have, after taking some final shots) or for GNT to email a moderator of that section of the forums to close the thread, but JoshEEE let the storm ride until the end.

Gregg provides good entertainment (at least for me).  His posts are quite amusing, especially when he types drivel that clearly shows he has no idea what he's talking about.  I completely understand the frustration that everyone is feeling as to why he is still a moderator.  I still respect the position that he has as moderator.  I know it's an extremely difficult time consuming position.  Thanks again to everyone who posted to the Xizor thread in my defense.  I really appreciated it.

Best regards to the staff at Jedidefender!

Robert
NOOMIVARR SECTOR
BLACK S. U. N.

Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 08:17 PM
As a form of civil resistance I've dropped out of survivor,I don't think the game can go on with two players gone,or can it?

And right on schedule, GNT has locked the thread.

http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=010315;p=4
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: P'dubs on February 24, 2004, 08:22 PM
That needed to be closed, it was too heated between them.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 24, 2004, 08:23 PM
Yep.
I say we all formaly resign from RS since GNT is still a moderator.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on February 24, 2004, 08:24 PM
I've mostly ignored all the goings on with GNT, I try to pretend he doesn't exist...

That said, is the science fair geek pictured above really GNT, or just another Optimus Prime that someone found and decided to label GNT?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 24, 2004, 08:26 PM
WE MAY BE ON THE VERGE OF A BREAKTHROUGH!

Listen to this reply from GNT in PM.

"However,have you considered steping down from being a moderator?"

since I don't know where my response will end up I'll just say "no".

Sounds like he's thinking about it!
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 08:35 PM
That said, is the science fair geek pictured above really GNT, or just another Optimus Prime that someone found and decided to label GNT?

Where the hell have you been Adam?!?    :P  Yes, that's most definitely Gregg there!

Although GNT claims it's just a picture of his cousin Greg...   ::)   ;D
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: P'dubs on February 24, 2004, 08:37 PM
WE MAY BE ON THE VERGE OF A BREAKTHROUGH!

Listen to this reply from GNT in PM.

"However,have you considered steping down from being a moderator?"

since I don't know where my response will end up I'll just say "no".

Sounds like he's thinking about it!
It's probly all the peer pressure of everyone hating him.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 24, 2004, 08:40 PM
I started a petition page that neither Philip or Greg(g) can close. Lets see how may actually sign up.

http://www.petitiononline.com/scum04/petition.html


I am adding it to my RS sig. Feel free to do so as well
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 24, 2004, 08:44 PM
I started a petition page that neither Philip or Greg(g) can close. Lets see how may actually sign up.

http://www.petitiononline.com/scum04/petition.html


I am adding it to my RS sig. Feel free to do so as well

I guarantee that anyone linking that in their sig will be asked to remove it and given a warning.   And Phillip obviously doesn't respond to that sort of stuff...  That being said, I'll sign it and add it to my signature.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 24, 2004, 08:45 PM
I am adding it to my RS sig. Feel free to do so as well

Just what I was going to say.  They'll make you remove it in a heartbeat Sarge!  But we can always advertise it elsewhere...   :P  Kind of a grass roots kinda thing?   8)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2004, 08:45 PM
If I wasnt so slow, I would figure out how to get to my SIG on RS.

How do I get to my sig, guys?

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 24, 2004, 08:49 PM
Philip can ask me to remove it all he likes I won't. He will have to take away my sig all together. Either way no skin off my ass.


I am curious as to how many will sign it. This way at least you can voice an opinion with out a flame war.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: jokabofe on February 24, 2004, 09:12 PM
I say we all formaly resign from RS since GNT is still a moderator.

well, i kinda informally resigned from there about 6 weeks ago or so...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on February 24, 2004, 09:19 PM
We need to bring over some of the Props and Other Collectibles people from 'Scum (except Mini Rock...). I stay over theree for those two forums, otherwise I'd be over here all the time
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 24, 2004, 09:40 PM
Ok update,and I think you guys will finds this particularly intersting:

My reply to him from earlier was:I really think you should,dude,it would make alot of people happy.

He replied:At this moment my answer is still "no", most of the people complaining have mostly moved on to another star wars site and have always been on my tail before being a mod.

I replied:You mean Jedidefender? I moved over there too.
You know its not just Scott and Matt and Durge,it is about 90% of the people here.Honestly.

He replied and confirmed our suspicions with:
I'm sure whatever I post in this PM will no doubt be posted in JD forums....

It doesn't bother me where you or anyone posts - it's a free world, if people wish to move to another site say JD for example then please go for it, perhaps with some members gone RS will become a much better place without people complaining about me every second...Just make sure that when you all move please move on for good.

And I replied:Well,that's a bit unfriendly. And I see you DO visit the JD fourms and since I have your blessing...

Well,there you have it.Sounds like he is indeed watching us and he is going to reamin a RS mod.That is bad news.

EDIT:Hello GNT! Since you put me on your ignore list I thought I'd still convey this message to you!Threatening a member isn't very becoming of a moderator is it?
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2004, 10:26 PM
Philip Modded my sig.

I shall repair it.

I wont be ignored.

Kevin
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 24, 2004, 11:13 PM
I started a petition page that neither Philip or Greg(g) can close. Lets see how may actually sign up.

http://www.petitiononline.com/scum04/petition.html


I am adding it to my RS sig. Feel free to do so as well
I would do it but it seems my profile has been locked.  I also got an email from Philip saying that he has changed my sig (without a reason).  I had "I'm god so live with it" without anyone's name attach to it.  So I could of been talking that I was god.

EDIT:Hello GNT! Since you put me on your ignore list I thought I'd still convey this message to you!Threatening a member isn't very becoming of a moderator is it?

IF he threatened you through a PM forward it to Phillip since thats against fourm rules and not the way of a moderator.  This would be one ways to have him get remove since it seems that he won't get removed anyother way.  

As for the petition 15 people signed so far, hopefully more will soon.  I may post it over at GH since some members there post at Scum as well.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 08:53 AM
So far Philip as not altered my sig or Pm'd m e so It still stays.
 Line 17 on the petition is interesting if its really him.

 
For me its not personal more than the fact that members opinions and voices should be taken into consideration. I can see standing by your staff but if changes need to be made you also need to listen objectionably.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 25, 2004, 09:51 AM
I've tried numerous times to sign the petition, but it keeps saying my signature does not originate from the Petition Online thing.  ??? Could someone sign for me?

Name :
Brad "AngryEwok" Smith

E-Mail  *public* :
bsoldato@jedidefender.com

Comment :
"I want to see you out of the job, bro. No hard feelings, but you are doing a terrible service to RS." - AngryEwok (8/9/03)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 09:56 AM
Edit,.

 Brad you have been added
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: HWR on February 25, 2004, 01:59 PM
whatever happens, i think this is the most successful thread henrik wulff rasmussen ever started.

 :)
Bzzzzzt (http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=009166)

Hey Scott, no need to pick anymore on Ivar, let him R.I.P.

Regarding your comments on how people hated "Sonic Death" and cheered when he was banned, don't forget alot of "Rebel Scumbags" were sad to see him go too.

Personally I think it was very harsh to ban him, and close both his accounts "Sonic Death" and "Virex" (well these were the names he used most of the time) . A minor temporary suspension might have been on it's place, cause he DID cross too many peoples lines one time too many, but not enough to get him permanently banned.

But then againg, I'm just a "freeky European who have a man-crush on him, and it is something fierce".  ;)

-Henrik
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 25, 2004, 02:22 PM
I'm just a "freeky European who have a man-crush on him, and it is something fierce".  ;)

-Henrik

 >:(
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 25, 2004, 04:09 PM
Yes,however,since it was more of a general threat to JD than anything else,I can't do anything.

His threat: He'll start posting more often here.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 05:09 PM
Yes,however,since it was more of a general threat to JD than anything else,I can't do anything.

His threat: He'll start posting more often here.

Or scary   ::)

He wouldn't be giving the chance to pull the crap that he does at Rebelscum here and will probally be banned before he hits 100 post.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Diddly on February 25, 2004, 06:04 PM
JUST TAKEN FROM THE RS CHAT!!!!!!!!!!!

"You children are a part of what contaminates the Rebelscum forums." - GNT to myself and FYI_Vator

EDIT: I've added this to my RS sig. Let's see how long it takes Greg(g) to lock my profile...
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 25, 2004, 06:06 PM
Tell him...real big coming from an 18 year old
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 25, 2004, 06:11 PM
I'm still not interly sure that was him,but he did seems a lot like GNT.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: D-Miles23 on February 25, 2004, 06:13 PM
I'm still not interly sure that was him,but he did seems a lot like GNT.

He did talk like him but he didn't answer the first question you gave him, so I don't know
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 25, 2004, 06:23 PM
JUST TAKEN FROM THE RS CHAT!!!!!!!!!!!

"You children are a part of what contaminates the Rebelscum forums." - GNT to myself and FYI_Vator

If that was indeed Greg(g), that's completely hypocritical of him to make that statement for two reasons:

1)  He's only 18 years old himself.   ::)

2)  He's a big part of what contaminates the Rebelscum forums.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 06:44 PM
I wonder if it would be any good if I pm Phillip and talk about GNT over moderation.  I'm not sure what good it will do since GNT hasn't done anything bad to me except general stuff like the over moderation.
 
Edit: I just PM Gregg asking him to answer the concerns that were bought up in that thread in the public view.  Lets see what happens with it.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Sith Lord Cosmo on February 25, 2004, 06:58 PM
Quote
16.  HomeSkooledFan  Remove GNT AND Phillip Wise. Both are arrogant and unpleasant people.
I think this was my favorite signature off the petition

 >:(
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: FX-7 on February 25, 2004, 07:05 PM
I stopped going to Rebelcrap when they made that dude a moderator.  He's been a tool since he was at Sir Steve's Guide where I stopped going because he was a tool
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 07:39 PM
first off can a mod at Rs lock a profile or does that come from Philip?

 2 philip has yet to adress me in PM or mail reguarding a few mod items. 1 Jeremy and a few actions from him and 2 a comment on my petition.

 Come on guys spread the word on the petition since Phil knows it up. :)

 I told him to use it as constructive not negative.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 07:46 PM
first off can a mod at Rs lock a profile or does that come from Philip?

 2 philip has yet to adress me in PM or mail reguarding a few mod items. 1 Jeremy and a few actions from him and 2 a comment on my petition.

 Come on guys spread the word on the petition since Phil knows it up. :)

 I told him to use it as constructive not negative.
I have it in my GH sig line but the only way I can spread it over at RS is to post it since my profile is still locked.  I think if I start spamming the board with the address I may get in big touble but I may post it in Wuhers anyway. ;D
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Ook on February 25, 2004, 07:53 PM
I signed. GNT stinks.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 25, 2004, 08:08 PM
Well, I got a little overly excited this afternoon when I noticed that Jeremy posted this asinine nonsense when he closed one of those two GNT related Feedback Forum threads (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000630):

Quote
I'm talking about when antagonists make personal attacks against mods and members in their attempt to get rid of them. I'm thinking of the time some members used a picture they believed was Gregg to try and embaress him.

I really hope that he's not being serious there, and suggesting that Scott and I made that stuff up, and that the picture of Greg(g) isn't really him...  That's ludicrous.  I'm actually really close to posting the entire irrefutable trail of evidence that led us directly to the doorsteps of GNT's high school Yahoo News Groups page, with several of his pictures in their art section, like the now infamous one that the whole world has seen.

Apparently Greg(g)'s still telling folks that we just made the whole thing up.  In fact, it sounds like he's even denying now that he said that the picture is actually of "his cousin Greg", who is also nicknamed "The Master", just like Gregg/GNT is...  Boy, the family reunions there must be terribly confusing!   ::)

In fact, I was pretty much fine with Greg(g) for the most part, right up until the point he started adamantly denying the fact that we'd discovered his true (18 year old Pat Benatar with a goatee lookalike) identity.  When he started screaming and crying like a frightened little school girl, and hastily editing the name under his pictures from "Gregg" and "The Master" to just "Greg", before finally just locking access to his high school's page, I lost all respect for him...  Plus, the whole "I'm going to sue you guys" thing was just downright hilarious!   :P

I really feel sorry for anyone that's too damned frightened to admit to themselves and others who they really are, and who has to flat out LIE to the community that they participate in, in order to feel accepted (Gregg claims to be 33).  That's just sad.  Since Gregg is definitely a liar (on many occassions), I'm pretty sure that disqualifies him from being "God", as he's also claimed right here. (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=48;t=000441;p=2)

What a turd.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 08:14 PM
Well, I got a little overly excited this afternoon when I noticed that Jeremy posted this asinine nonsense when he closed one of those two GNT related Feedback Forum threads (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000630):

Quote
I'm talking about when antagonists make personal attacks against mods and members in their attempt to get rid of them. I'm thinking of the time some members used a picture they believed was Gregg to try and embaress him.

I really hope that he's not being serious there, and suggesting that Scott and I made that stuff up, and that the picture of Greg(g) isn't really him...  That's ludicrous.  I'm actually really close to posting the entire irrefutable trail of evidence that led us directly to the doorsteps of GNT's high school Yahoo News Groups page, with several of his pictures in their art section, like the now infamous one that the whole world has seen.

Apparently Greg(g)'s still telling folks that we just made the whole thing up.  In fact, it sounds like he's even denying now that he said that the picture is actually of "his cousin Greg", who is also nicknamed "The Master", just like Gregg/GNT is...  Boy, the family reunions there must be terribly confusing!   ::)

In fact, I was pretty much fine with Greg(g) for the most part, right up until the point he started adamantly denying the fact that we'd discovered his true (18 year old Pat Benatar with a goatee lookalike) identity.  When he started screaming and crying like a frightened little school girl, and hastily editing the name under his pictures from "Gregg" and "The Master" to just "Greg", before finally just locking access to his high school's page, I lost all respect for him...  Plus, the whole "I'm going to sue you guys" thing was just downright hilarious!   :P

I really feel sorry for anyone that's too damned frightened to admit to themselves and others who they really are, and who has to flat out LIE to the community that they participate in, in order to feel accepted (Gregg claims to be 33).  That's just sad.  Since Gregg is definitely a liar (on many occassions), I'm pretty sure that disqualifies him from being "God", as he's also claimed right here. (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=48;t=000441;p=2)

What a turd.

I was reading that as will and can't belive that they think you guys are making it up.  I posted the thread over there since my Profile is still denied to me and wanted to give more people the chance to sign it.  It's going to be interesting to see if its up in a few hours or not.  If they lock it I will repost it and ask them why they FEAR their members voicing they concerns about a moderator.  Hopefully I don't have to do it.

EDIT:  I guess I have to do it since they just moved it or deleted it.  Why do you guys at RS fear your community so much.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 08:17 PM
Matt,
  Jeremy has rubbed me the wrong way as of the past few days. The biggest thing that pisses me off with the whole GNT thing is that no one is allowed to have an opinion if it is public. It seems to be only allowed in private. Hence Jeremy's responce. He pretty much proved my point by locking the thread. I am sure Kenobis thread will follow soon enough but I had to add to that one as well.  I am eagrly awaiting a responce from philip although it will get me no where buy further on the **** list.
 It really makes you wonder where the members opinions really stand in their world?\\



 edit addition
  Wow that didn't take long to get your thread closed Tom. I even responded in it to allow free speach. Guess the lords over ruled that silly notion.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Rob on February 25, 2004, 08:20 PM
I've managed to have the petition remain in my sig line by just hyperlinking it with the text:

Check out this petition!


Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: jokabofe on February 25, 2004, 08:32 PM
I've managed to have the petition remain in my sig line by just hyperlinking it with the text:

Check out this petition!

well, that'll end as soon as someone reads this thread  ;)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 08:37 PM
Lets see how long this post last at rebel scum.Why Fear Us? (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000632)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: JediMAC on February 25, 2004, 08:41 PM
The biggest thing that pisses me off with the whole GNT thing is that no one is allowed to have an opinion if it is public. It seems to be only allowed in private.

That's definitely the root of the problem Wayne.  None of their members are allowed to discuss it there, hence this gigantic snowballing "GNT Appreciation Thread" right here.  It's sad that we have to be the site to host the discussion about their moderator's ineffective abilities, instead of RS themselves.  It's because of this thread, that certain people are now incorrectly making this out to be some kind of huge site war between RS and JD, which couldn't be further from the truth...

The truth is just that most everyone thinks that Gregg should have his moderating title revoked.  That's pretty much all this issue really boils down to.  It's not JD vs. RS, or Matt and Scott vs. Greg(g).  It's just about doing the right thing.  It's about listening to your community and what they have to say - not turning a deaf ear to them and shunning them off to discuss said issue elsewhere.

Greg(g) has finally developed his "holier than thou" attitude, even to the point that he's referring to himself as God there, and it's really quite obnoxious - yet no one can say a word to or about him over there.  He's untouchable, and that's indeed a very sad testament to the current state of affairs at RS in my opinion...   :-\

BTW Tom, I'd probably just lay off trying to start new threads up over there on the matter.  Not really worth it.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 08:48 PM
Matt-
 This thread summs up what I feel
http://forums.rebelscum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=013919

 I am sure it will get closed but I used an angle I hate to use. But after a half a dozen Jack and Cokes I loosen up.
 I agree what bothers me the most is no one is allowed to have a public opinion. For the life of me I just don't understand what that type of discussion is so feared?   I will say my RS days are numbered now but I really could care less. There is a reason I am here. All I can say is thanks to all the other members who make this place special
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 08:48 PM

BTW Tom, I'd probably just lay off trying to start new threads up over there on the matter.  Not really worth it.

That is my last post I will start over there about it anyways.  I just wish others will see it and maybe rasie questions about why we can't speak up when a moderator abuses his power.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 09:00 PM
Well all my threads at RS have since gone away. Even though they were civil and contained no ill remarks they are gone.  I love oppression ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 09:02 PM
Well all my threads at RS have since gone away. Even though they were civil and contained no ill remarks they are gone.  I love oppression ::)

I know how you feel.  I'm now waiting to get PM or emailed my banning letter because I spoke out on an issue that wasn't what the police state wanted to hear. ::)
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Reconsgt on February 25, 2004, 09:05 PM
well I got my PM


 
Philip Wise
 
Member # 1624   posted 02-25-2004 08:02 PM          
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wayne,

I have already stated this but I'll do it again for you.

How I manage the forum and moderators is not open to public discussion in this forum.

People will either like it or not and stay or not.

You can have all the discussion about it in public if you like, but not in a forum I provide.

Take your crusade elsewhere.
 
 
 
 Well that about summs up his openess to his members
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2004, 09:15 PM
well I got my PM


 
Philip Wise
 
Member # 1624   posted 02-25-2004 08:02 PM          
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wayne,

I have already stated this but I'll do it again for you.

How I manage the forum and moderators is not open to public discussion in this forum.

People will either like it or not and stay or not.

You can have all the discussion about it in public if you like, but not in a forum I provide.

Take your crusade elsewhere.
 
 
 
 Well that about summs up his openess to his members

Thats a shame on the way he run those fourms.  I can remember when Mike (Bananapunk) use to own those fourms.  He wouldn't talk to a concern member in that way and was always open to people talking to him and other moderators if there was problem any time any where on the fourm.  
I still haven't gotten a PM so I guess he writting a very long one for me.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Vator on February 25, 2004, 09:48 PM
I just resigned,for the time being.I'll bet I get banned. :-*
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on February 25, 2004, 10:07 PM
Well, Im not a GNT fan, I've hated him since well before he became a moderator. That said, I think all of this crusading against him has gone out of control.

Nothing is going to be done. Publicly bitching about it is obviously not going to change a damn thing. Unfortunately, all it's really succeeding in is making us all look like a bunch of ********.

Jedi Defender is an awesome place, I came over to join the true hardcore fans and collectors, the polite, professional collectors. Now its starting to degrade into GNT this, GNT that.

Honestly, do you think GNT is phased? Hell, the little punk is probably happy as a pig in **** that we've gone this nuts over him. It's making him infamous. If everyone just started ignoring him and pretending he wasn't a member of the board, so far as not even acknowledging his threads, perhaps he'd tone down, or just leave altogether.

I think one of the big reasons he's being kept on at 'Scum is because its only going to set a precedent for mods to come. People are going to think they can overthrow every mod they deam unworthy, etc. It would be like Philip throwing in the towel and saying "Fine, you guys win. Take the board, its yours".

If you really want GNT gone, I suggest you write a polite, professional letter to Philip showing evidence of why GNT is causing a problem for RS.
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Scott on February 25, 2004, 10:09 PM
Agreed...

GNT doesn't post here remember, this is Rebelscum without GNT.  
Title: Re: KBZ jokes on GNT at scum
Post by: Chris on February 25, 2004, 10:17 PM
Quite well put Adam, and with that, the discussion is over. I do suggest that polite letters be sent to Philip, and only to Philip. This is between GNT, yourself, and Philip Wise. A third party is not needed. If you wish to discuss it to others, please do so through private messages or e-mail.

We have established that not many here like GNT, take it for what it is worth and deal with it in a professional manner. Worry about finding that new figure or checking out the new Episode 3 spoilers that are currently online at JD, not GNT. Everyone gets caught up in the chaos and this is just another case. Anyone wanting to express their opinions about the JD administration and this thread, please do so in our feedback forum.
Title: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: DeakStarkiller on February 29, 2004, 01:32 PM
Philip Wise, owner of Rebelscum.com and majority owner of theforce.net, has become the most hated man in Star Wars fandom almost overnight.  To regular Rebelscummers, you may want to jump ship to over here(if you already haven't!;D), a fair community run by fans, NOT profiteers.  The following links tell the story, but to summarize:

Wise demanded that TF.n Jedi Council forum moderators transmit their real names and addresses to him--basically, for two reasons-1.to be able to hold them liable in case LFL sues for spoiler postings-and 2. to make them available to their "affiliate sites" for "marketing purposes".  

Many moderators refused for security reasons; Wise demoted all who didn't comply. I'm paraphrasing, and you can find the info at the links below, but basically, Wise said he would shut the forums down if they caused him trouble.  No matter how chilidish the JC forums at TF.n can get, they're inarguably the heart of on-line SW fandom.  

Basically, Wise plans to overhaul theforce.net to make it more of a "business" entity, so he can make more money off of it. Fine--this is a capitalist society. The problem lies in the fact that FAN communities are about something else that Wise obviously (in light of this, and the GNT issues at Scum), and by his own admission, holds in low regard. Do you really want to post at a site owned by this guy? The worm has turned, friends.

Also, I'm well aware that RS is a private forum owned by Wise.

The logical conclusion one can come to is that ALL Wise's sites will soon require registration--which means that your personal info will be on computers that can be (and have been, just yesterday) hacked, AND, that you'll be the subject of revenue-producing spam for Philip Wise.  "Collect to Collect" my ass.  You are not fellow fans to this guy anymore, you are a revenue stream.  I would have posted this at RS, but we all have seen this week how that would be dealt with...Read on!

Wise's statement at the JC:
http://boards.theforce.net/Communications/b10006/15063626/?816

A summary :
http://boards.theforce.net/Communications/b10006/15061378/?4

Reaction from millenniumfalcon.com:
http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=324

http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=325













Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 01:46 PM
It's odd to me, that at the same time he's fiercely loyal and protective of a dumbass, divisive mod at his Rebelscum forums, he's "firing" mods who have been attributes to the TF.N boards for years, simply because they won't cave into his demands.  

Very odd, especially when you consider that the size of the TF.N boards dwarves all of these other boards (RS, JD, SSG, GH) put together.  Mods are more necessary over there.

That man has no sense of community, or history.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Famine on February 29, 2004, 02:14 PM
That man has no sense of community, or history.

And I bet he has a small penis too.

Kevin
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2004, 02:16 PM
And I bet he has a small penis too.

Kevin

Yes, he does.

 :-\

(No questions, please.)
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ben on February 29, 2004, 02:31 PM
I've only had about ten posts at RS in the last month.

I fear if that place is shut down, all the twits and trolls will find their way here.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Vator on February 29, 2004, 02:39 PM
Philip should order some Enzyte, maybe that would stop his compensation wrath?

Seriously though, this is disgusting, and could very well lead to the down fall of TFN.  Would you want that to happen? Dosen't he realise that he is pissing off 90% of the Internet fanbase?

Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: SilverZ on February 29, 2004, 03:35 PM
Thanks for the story and links Deak. I'd heard a good summary from a friend last night and it's a shame how its degenerating.

My personal opinion is that this is entirely a financial decision on the part of the owner. Like all successful things, a hobby/fan interest grew out of a need for a service, and transitioned to mass-consumption and new opportunities for the owner. In this case, the owner has several successful peripheral financial ventures associated with the community, one specifically which is an official Lucasfilm sanctioned one - C2 Ventures, and surely C3 Ventures, which, in the owner's interest, must be a prominent presence next year in Indianapolis. Recent events  certainly put into question the owners ability to do so. So some of the actions that have taken are understandable.

Understandable, yes. Right for the community or fair to the people that helped bring success to those involved? Certainly not. The good thing is, regardless of what happens with both sites, it is still a fan community. There are plenty of other outlets that offer the same, and most times better, content and boards. Ones not concerned about loss of revenue from official sources tied to the subject they are trying to cover.  It's the contributers that make the sites worth visiting and other sites will take up the slack. Hopefully these spiritual successors will opt for the fan community's side rather than personal financial goals when managing the site's direction.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 29, 2004, 03:53 PM
The day that I have to register personal information with Philip Wise is the day I tell him to kiss my ass.

I like the idea of JD, but I still post at scum because things are a little slow around here at times.  That's not to say I like scum better, there's just more to respond to.

I see myself being more and more involved with you guys here at JD than scum as time goes on.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Boba Binks on February 29, 2004, 04:24 PM
I will admit that I have never liked the TFN forums or the RebelScum Forums. I was only on TFN forums because that was the only forum for the Indy Knights group when I belonged to that group. Other than that there was only RebelScum at the time. It seemed all other forums that came were soon gone.

I have never liked either of those places. The people who post there (fans as they may be) are Rude, Disrespectful, and downright Arrogant. People would flame for the sake of fun and many were hurt by it. I know I was. The people over there are just childish. They have to have it their way or else and the “or else” was something that happened often.

When JD opened up I jump over here because I know that Chris and crew will not put up with such garbage or have any such demands. This place is Eden compared to the other forums that are out there.

Weather or not the parties involved are correct in doing what was done, how it was taken care of, or not it was their decision. All things come round in a circle. Maybe it is time for those to get what is coming to them. I do not know. It is nothing but a big mess.

I think the battle is just beginning and I want no part of it.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Vator on February 29, 2004, 04:56 PM
Well, BB, I suppose we'll all have courtside seats for this battle, eh?

Though I doubt very much that this will be the end of those sites.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: JediMAC on February 29, 2004, 05:01 PM
Well, I've been biting my tongue on this issue since having several people point it out to me a couple days ago.  It's quite honestly completely disgusting what's going on over there.  I've spent several hours reading through the two big JC threads (they're 61 and 35 pages respectively, in just 2 days each), and it's mindboggling to me how much Philip can piss so many people off at both of his sites, and in such opposite ways, and absolutely care less about it.

In my opinion, and I hate to say this, Philip is all business man now, and not a Star Wars fan any more.  He owns the two biggest (non official) Star Wars sites on the web, and in the past week has made it abundantly clear that he could give a rat's ass for either of the massive forum communities that have developed therein.  This is what he tells his community and his staff: If you don't like it, then get the hell out - I don't care!  I was surprised enough that he made that blanket statement to all of his Rebelscum forum members during the GNT fiasco, but to say that to all of his hard working, volunteer moderators that keep his site running smoothly over at TFn just shows you how truly heartless this man has become...

And Deak, you forgot to point out the thread that started it all:

Show of Moderator solidarity against Philip (http://boards.theforce.net/Communications/b10006/15043366/?50) (61 pages long, in just two days!  :o)

What I find truly bizarre is how differently Philip's handling the two situations.  At RS, where so many people are demanding the demotion of a current crappy moderator (GNT), Philip defends and supports Greg(g) to the death, refusing to listen to his community, and deletes/hides any threads stating opposition to that issue within a matter of minutes.

Whereas over at TFn, Philip is doing just the opposite - he's firing GOOD moderators that their community completely likes and respects, for no other reason than they'd like to keep their personal information private, and not put it on a site that's already been hacked into several times.  Even more unbelievable is that Philip is actually allowing discussion on the topic over at TFn, with those two main threads coming in at 61 and 35 pages respectively (and growing).  Why allow people to discuss the situation at one site, and not the other?  Weird.  Very weird...

Two different situations.  Same heartless owner.  Same horrid (wrong) result...   ::)  It's an absolute shame what he's doing to the Star Wars community as a whole.  It's a shame that someone who doesn't care about Star Wars fans and the communities that he's developed at his two SW sites, is the very person that holds the keys to such a large chunk of the net's Star Wars discussion.  Scary.   :-\

But in the paraphrased words of Philip:  Deal with it, or get the hell out!
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Famine on February 29, 2004, 05:19 PM
The day that I have to register personal information with Philip Wise is the day I tell him to kiss my ass.

I say that to him all the time. He continues to ignore my question of why he locked my profile. The big jerk.

I wouldnt give HIM my personal information. If LucasFilm wanted it, I would gladly give it to THEM.

Kevin
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: paploo on February 29, 2004, 06:21 PM
what is the gnt fiasco?
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ben on February 29, 2004, 06:29 PM
what is the gnt fiasco?

The guy locks threads for the sake of locking them, and doesn't take well to criticism.

The RS community wanted him removed from his mod post, but Philip won't go for it.

If Phil is handling Celebration 3, then I think I won't go. **** that guy, the putz.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Famine on February 29, 2004, 06:38 PM
Phillip handeled Celebration 2??!

Kevin
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ben on February 29, 2004, 07:06 PM
I guess. Didn't C2 Ventures handle it?

Hell, I can't remember. There's a post in this thread about it.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Angry Ewok on February 29, 2004, 07:12 PM
All I care to say is an echo of what has already been stated, that is that Philip Wise is a business man - not a Star Wars fan.

To be completely honest - and I may get flak for saying this - I'm thrilled that Philip Wise is showing everyone what an ass many of us already knew he is... Now people won't think I feel this way simply just because I work for JD and was banned from RS.


Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 29, 2004, 07:26 PM
WOTC ran C2 but I think C2 venutres ran the autographs.  Its sad that Philip is acting the way he is because as a result of these two fiascos people are going or already left.  Since the GNT thing I have seen more people joining here some of whom left for that reason some other may of wanted to see those pictures of EP3.  
Now I need to read those threads at TFN.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: OrionSlaveLotion on February 29, 2004, 07:44 PM
What a cad! If he pulls this stunt at RS it's not going to be pretty; it’s boxing glove central there as it is.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on February 29, 2004, 09:24 PM
Phil owns C2 Ventures too...I have thoughts on this but I want to think a little bit more about it before I put in my 2 bits/12.5
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Rob on February 29, 2004, 10:34 PM
No suprises here...

It's turning into the Gestapo over there....
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: SilverZ on March 1, 2004, 02:03 AM
Yeah, he owns C2 Ventures - which ran the autograph section at the convention, and continues to pimp them through the TFN autograph store. You can imagine the stress something like leaked images through either of his sites would put on that business, and any future officially sanctioned Lucas/Star Wars/Convention merchandise he has on tap.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ook on March 1, 2004, 04:31 AM
Who's Philip Wise?

 ???
Apparently, a complete (http://www.gamevolution.it/yabbse/smilies/no.gif)

Please do not circumvent the language filter!
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Muftak on March 1, 2004, 07:40 AM
As far as the spark for the whole debate, when I hired in as a moderator over at Rebelscum, Philip asked for my "real-world" contact information. I sent it to him and never gave it a second thought. What's the big deal with that?

As far as the further developments go, I'm sad but I'm not too surprised. I naven't had a problem with Philip on a personal level but he definitely has a different take on how to run message boards than I would.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Ook on March 1, 2004, 07:54 AM
Please do not circumvent the language filter!

Circumvent? You better check your settings. All I did was type the word. I was actually surprised because I thought you guys censored here...


EDIT: I just tried some choice words in a preview post. You guys have it set to catch dirty words if they're exact, but not variations. For example, if you had "crap" censored, "crapweasel" still gets through. You need to set it so it comes up "****weasel".
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 09:17 AM
;)  Don't worry too much on the language filter thing, the biggies are not really recommended for daily use and if we see them, we'll edit them.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: MisterPL on March 1, 2004, 10:47 AM
Philip told me once the forums were at the bottom of his list of concerns. He just doesn't seem to care about the community he hosts.

If that's still true, I wouldn't be surprised if he shut down the Jedi Council and Rebelscum forums, especially if they are quite literally more trouble than they are worth. They'll just go back to being news sites.

What a businessman. Nice collection, too.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: delvec on March 1, 2004, 10:59 AM
You guys see this as some kinda shock-
he never cared about forums and the only reason they actually had forums came from the CSW merger.
It was a no brainer who's forums were getting used for that one. If he actually cared what people think dont ya think RS would have a chatroom too- not one created by a mod not even hosted by scum? Its not a server issue if he has 6 dedicated servers for Toy Fair coverage.

Actually for him, its a brilliant move. Its already not his major concern (hes too busy looking for the next site to buy) and if the forums would die- you guys would still go there for news, which really pays his bills in the first place.

And really the required info for his MODS really shouldnt be too farfetched. If the leaking spoiler info gets outta control, its his tail Lucas is going after and he's making sure these people may take some accountability if GL lays the hammer down.

Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: MisterPL on March 1, 2004, 11:12 AM
So let me get this straight:

A mod at Rebelscum hosts a chat room.

During a recent chat, stolen Episode III images are shared.

The images get leaked to JediDefender.

JediDefender gets a slap on the wrist from Lucasfilm who starts tracking the images back to the source.

Philip (who's got a good thing going) is suddenly feeling the heat when it's learned that these stolen images came from one of his forum mods.

Consequently - like any good manager - he insists on having the personal contact info for everyone who works with him.

Am I missing anything? It seems like Philip's just covering his own ass, just like any of us might.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 11:19 AM
Well, I thought that too at first but it seems this demand was made before any of the JD stuff happened...seems like TFN is in a little hot water based from LFL for their Spoiler Policy

Also, he's gotta make sure someone besides him is going to take the fall for owning forums of such size...hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil

Also like Bobb said, this has been standard practice at RS for a while, he's just making it a corporate mandate
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: delvec on March 1, 2004, 11:45 AM
So let me get this straight:

A mod at Rebelscum hosts a chat room.

During a recent chat, stolen Episode III images are shared.

The images get leaked to JediDefender.

JediDefender gets a slap on the wrist from Lucasfilm who starts tracking the images back to the source.

Philip (who's got a good thing going) is suddenly feeling the heat when it's learned that these stolen images came from one of his forum mods.

Consequently - like any good manager - he insists on having the personal contact info for everyone who works with him.

Am I missing anything? It seems like Philip's just covering his own ass, just like any of us might.
And speaking of those leaked pictures- ya might wanna see take a trip across the pond at TPU and see what they uncovered- anything catch your eye?
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Reconsgt on March 1, 2004, 01:51 PM
Maybe someone can answer this for me. Its a question I had for a while.


 1.) Is a forum that is open to the public-( no membership fee or a listed policy you agree to before entering in.) covered under free speach? Or is that site allowed to censor statements, comments or pictures that are not either swearing or unappropriate due to age related legalities ( nude pics).   Is it a private domain?

just curious.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 02:02 PM
It's been said repeatedly (On both sides) that Phil didn't buy CSW, I believe that because I don't see what BP had to gain in selling...
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: delvec on March 1, 2004, 02:28 PM
He wouldnt have to deal with the headaches involved on the admin end and get a nice lil chunk change for his content- thats doesnt mean he did buy but that looks like a good reason
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 03:15 PM
I really don't know either besides what was said at the time of the merger...and its not really right to speculate on said matter of what might have happened behind the scenes because we don't know ??? :-\  

I am glad Mike decided to start GH, a lot of my online friends hang out there and the guys who work there are great and consider a lot of them friends too.  People rail on them for having such a small community but as they have repeatedly said that doesn't really bother them (and is the exact same thing we say)  Its the quality of said members (many of which we share) that make forums a place people want to come, not the over use of smilies and one line answers.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Jeff on March 1, 2004, 03:28 PM
I really don't know either besides what was said at the time of the merger...and its not really right to speculate on said matter of what might have happened behind the scenes because we don't know ??? :-\  

Agreed.  Only Mike and Phillip will ever really know the facts, the rest of us are just left to speculate, and you know what happens then, you just make a "spec" out of u and late... wait?  Is that right?

Jeff
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: FX-7 on March 1, 2004, 03:54 PM
I stopped going to that **** site a long time ago, not sure why people even post there...especially when you got places like here
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: JediMAC on March 1, 2004, 04:10 PM
There appears to have definitely been some kind of new ownership issues that allowed Philip to somehow swindle the forums AND THE PICTURE ARCHIVES (and CSW name) away from Mike.  Philip screwed him, as far as I can tell...

As for the moderators having to give out their personal info, if you read through those two giant threads over at TFn, you'll see that the issue is much larger than just that.  They didn't have a problem with the request so much, as they had a problem with the way that Philip went about the whole thing.  He basically wrote their "Mod Squad" and told them to enter their personal information through a non-secure web site, that says it will be public information and could be shared, and if they didn't hand over the personal info, they'd be fired on the spot.

This includes single females, as well as underage individuals.  Philip didn't ask people to send HIM the info for his files.  That wasn't an option.  Only entering it onto this website.  Another thing that they found troubling is that many of them had been there for years and had never been asked for this information before.  It seems that there's a large "troll" issue over there, and many of the mods don't want these trolls showing up at their doorsteps, since their address could easily be obtained.

Further compounding the situation was that Philip originally wouldn't even tell them why he all of the sudden needed the info after all these years, aside from some vague reference to depositions.  Since they're all volunteer moderators, they have little interest in getting sued, or even deposed, for something related to Philip's site.

They all tried to ask Philip some more questions to try to better understand the situation, but he's refused any and all correspondence with them.  These people didn't even know who the hell Philip was until last Thursday, when he placed this demand on them.  He only has 13 posts at TFn for the history of that board, and none in almost a year.  For whatever reason, the other (minority) co-owner of TFn (Josh Griffin, I think) is refusing to chime in on the situation, despite being the guy that most of these mods consider the owner there.  Makes you wonder if he disagrees with Philip's heavy handed actions there.

So Philip refuses to speak to any of these people from what I've read, and has fired many of them now, without even listening to their side of the issue, and without so much as a thank you for their services rendered to him and his site over the years.  Completely heartless.

I haven't caught up on the threads in the past day, so maybe some things have changed during that time, but I doubt it.  Anyway, like I said, it's a lot bigger issue than just asking for their contact info.  It's about total lack of respect, communication, and appreciation for his hard-working and dedicated staff at TFn...
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Diddly on March 1, 2004, 05:50 PM
The day that I have to register personal information with Philip Wise is the day I tell him to kiss my ass.

I like the idea of JD, but I still post at scum because things are a little slow around here at times.  That's not to say I like scum better, there's just more to respond to.

I see myself being more and more involved with you guys here at JD than scum as time goes on.

Same here. The only personal info I give out is my email address. If he wants my personal info, then he'll lose my services.
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Mike Sullenger on March 1, 2004, 07:23 PM
I really don't know either besides what was said at the time of the merger...and its not really right to speculate on said matter of what might have happened behind the scenes because we don't know ??? :-\  

Agreed.  Only Mike and Phillip will ever really know the facts, the rest of us are just left to speculate, and you know what happens then, you just make a "spec" out of u and late... wait?  Is that right?

Jeff

Let’s have the speculation end. ;) Thanks to you know who for pointing this thread out.

Money was never a factor when I decided to join Rebelscum as co-owner and combine CollectStarWars.com content with theirs. I have never asked nor received any compensation from Philip Wise because this was never a business transaction. It stemmed from a more demanding work schedule during that period of time as well as a desire to create a better site by joining the two entities.

I decided to set off on my own and run my own website again, because I had a vision that I wanted to follow which differed somewhat from Rebelscum’s. I also decided that it was probably in the best interests of both parties and the community at large that I leave the forums and archives where they were, and start off fresh. As an additional gesture of goodwill, I gave the moderators the option of staying with Rebelscum or joining me at Galactic Hunter. All this in the hopes that there would be no hard feelings between Scum and myself, because in all honesty, this is just a hobby for me, and it’s not worth all the b.s. and strife that comes with web politics.

I hope that this clears everything up about the CSW/RS/GH issue. I’m very proud of what Team Galactic Hunter has accomplished during only two years of being online, and I refuse to diminish that accomplishment by dwelling on this issue.  

We have a lot to look forward to these next two years as a fan community, let’s focus on having fun with what time we have left rather than being engrossed with ugly web politics. I’m not going to comment too much on the current TFN controversy, but I will say this, Philip has invested a lot of time and money with both sites. What he decides to do with it is his discretion as a webmaster and businessman, because he’s accountable from both a legal and financial standpoint. You can disagree with what actions he decides to take, and have the ultimate freedom of choice to visit the sites you want to visit.

On a closing note, CollectStarWars.com has always belonged to me, and I alone own the domain. The URL currently redirects to Galactic Hunter.

Mike Sullenger
GalacticHunter.com
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: DeakStarkiller on March 1, 2004, 11:03 PM
You can disagree with what actions he decides to take, and have the ultimate freedom of choice to visit the sites you want to visit.


Exactly.  And the honorable choice to make is to visit sites run by fans , like jedidefender.com and galactichunter.com, among others.  Undoubtedly, Philip Wise puts alot of time and money into his sites--to *make* money off of all of us.  And there's nothing wrong with that--Lucasfilm makes plenty of money off of us; however, we all knew upfront that LFL was a business.  Philip is a corporate wolf in fan's clothing, and just because you're a collector, does not make you a fan .
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Scott on March 1, 2004, 11:14 PM
Mike, thanks much for your words...you're site is one of the best around and we're all better for what you and your staff bring to the table (especially the Swami!)

Sooo...not sure if our mod friends at RS have been following the thread at the TF.N or not but I'm curious if they've thought about what is being said at all...
Here's a Hypothetical

#1 Someone leaks pics on the Rebelscum forums of Episode 3 Figures
#2 Rebelscum is sent a Cease and Desist...they remove all of them, ban the perp and move on
#3 2 weeks later, RS's forums leak more pics, already suffering from the last blow, LFL and Hasbro sue Rebelscum and its owner for repeated discretion
#4 Phil, blames the Section moderator and passes said buck to the sorry sap who was working or sleeping at the time, saying it was this guy or gals fault for not catching the spoilers and doing their job.  Oh and by the way, here's their address

Now, I think that is really farfetched, the relationship between the two entities is pretty solid and they would have to blatently and chronically disobey the rules but I can see what the Mods at TF.N are saying.

They are never going to require Users to send in any info...you're doing stuff you're not supposed to be, they'll contact your ISP and set the record straight
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Jeff on March 1, 2004, 11:32 PM
Let’s have the speculation end. ;) Thanks to you know who for pointing this thread out.

Thanks for clearing that up.  I guess I was just mis-understood on the whole thing (after hearing so many net-rumors I didn't really know what to believe).  I feel a little better hearing the truth of the matter for once and for all.

CSW.com was a lot of fun and I was a bit saddened when it merged with scum.  The forums have never seemed quite the same after that...  gh.com is great though.  You have a crack team over there and gh.com and jd.com are my two preferred sites for "getting it on" in the world of SW toys!

Jeff
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Playgirl on March 2, 2004, 02:15 AM

Quote

 gh.com and jd.com are my two preferred sites for "getting it on" in the world of SW toys!

Jeff

Quote
agreed  ;)
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Rob L on March 2, 2004, 08:31 AM
Sooo...not sure if our mod friends at RS have been following the thread at the TF.N or not but I'm curious if they've thought about what is being said at all...
Here's a Hypothetical

#1 Someone leaks pics on the Rebelscum forums of Episode 3 Figures
#2 Rebelscum is sent a Cease and Desist...they remove all of
them, ban the perp and move on
#3 2 weeks later, RS's forums leak more pics, already suffering from the last blow, LFL and Hasbro sue Rebelscum and its owner for repeated discretion
#4 Phil, blames the Section moderator and passes said buck to the sorry sap who was working or sleeping at the time, saying it was this guy or gals fault for not catching the spoilers and doing their job.  Oh and by the way, here's their address
Can LF take legal action against non-US citizens? Will I be extradited to stand trial in your country?
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: MisterPL on March 2, 2004, 09:53 AM
Can LF take legal action against non-US citizens?

Yes they can and yes they have.

Will I be extradited to stand trial in your country?

That might depend on the charge. I doubt they'll put you up in The Ranch, though.  ;D
Title: Re: A sign of things to come at RS?
Post by: Deanpaul on March 2, 2004, 09:56 AM
Can LF take legal action against non-US citizens? Will I be extradited to stand trial in your country?

Rob,

That would be one way to get earlier access to the latest Hasbro offerings. :P
Title: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: E.Z. on March 2, 2004, 11:41 AM
Anyone else having problems going to RS? I tried getting in from my bookmark and search links and haven't been able to for the past 24 hours.  ???
Title: Re: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: FX-7 on March 2, 2004, 11:44 AM
Works fine for me...same old **** different day
Title: Re: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: E.Z. on March 2, 2004, 11:44 AM
P.S,

When you get a chance Matt, could you change my feedback name to reflect my user name?.  ;)
Title: Re: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: E.Z. on March 2, 2004, 11:45 AM
Works fine for me...same old **** different day

Really. What on earth is going wrong on my end? Every other site works fine except RS.  ???
Title: Re: Can't get into Rebelscum?
Post by: Scott on March 2, 2004, 11:52 AM
Clear your Temp Internet File folder and Cookies...

Fixed your feedback title too, and I'm going to lock this one ;)
Title: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 10:36 AM
So Rebelscum changed their forums overnight - looks like I'll be doing more of my posting over here...

Because their new forum won't let me post in it.  I get this message:

"The host you are trying to send the input from is not a valid host."

Phillip says:

"I think it has to do with an option about the HTTP Referrer and designed to help make your surfing safe from harmful ads. Which may be true, but it casts such a wide net it gets many valid applications as well."

Anyone know anything about this?  I've got Norton on all my computers - and I don't plan on taking it off any time soon.

Anyone else having problems with their site and it's upgrades?
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Morgbug on April 28, 2004, 11:10 AM
No big difference for me.  Thanks for pointing it out though.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 11:29 AM
I got in with no problem. Right now I'm finding it a little slow right now & I can't find were to update the post indicators. You can now see how many are viewing in the sections & the post counts are back!  ::)  

Very hard on the eyes, to bright.  
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Morgbug on April 28, 2004, 11:31 AM
Yeah, I noted post counts were back too.  Oh well.  

The strangest thing was my pm box had 72 messages in it.  Going back quite a way, some names I don't even recognize, but I traded with them at some point, LOL.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 11:35 AM
It’s a bit slow at the moment :(

Not sure I like the default colours either, but at least  the forum is now skinable.

I got all my old PMs back too…along with about 150 new admin-related ones!
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 11:36 AM
Holy Crap! You can see who's online!  :o
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Deanpaul on April 28, 2004, 11:38 AM
Yucky ducky. I have a feeling more than the threads will be recieving bodily fluids/solids deposits over there.

The slowness of it was most disappointing. Which is alright, because I mostly go there to pick fights... remember what it was like to be in junior high... Heck, I'm not sure why I go there....
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 12:24 PM
So no one else is having any Norton-related problems?  

I can view and manuever around the boards just fine - but when I try to post - nothing works.

Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 12:41 PM
I have Norton and will have to leave  ;) ...can't have a Mod without the ability to post and there's no way I'm turning Norton off :(

Edit: smilies entered in the appropriate places.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 12:48 PM
I have Norton and will have to leave...can't have a Mod without the ability to post and there's no way I'm turning Norton off:(

Did you try posting?  Or are you just going on what I said.

If you tried and it didn't work for you as well, it's safe to say that's probably what it is.

Maybe you could bring it up to phillip or maybe someone here could post a link to this thread in the feedback and suggestions page - because I can't even post to let them know I'm having an issue - the only info I have is from an email to Phillip.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 12:51 PM
Yes, I've actually tried posting...works fine when Norton is disabled.

Edit: can't get into the site at all now - I'll try it out with my other (Non-Norton) machine.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 01:04 PM
I haven't posted yet but refreshing the main forum page, I am getting errors!  

I made a post in the vinty section, had a hell of a time as I previewed my post, my sig was messed up so I had to change it. Took me awhile to do as the page was stalled & sometimes timed out.

I too have been having problems getting into areas the odd times.

I have no Norton related problems though. My is on.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Ook on April 28, 2004, 01:11 PM
Wow, no wonder no ones posting. Looks like no one can, ha! I don't use NIS, and haven't had any probs. Except the slowness.

You know, all those trade feedback threads we have with links to all our feedback are gonna have to be edited with new URLs.......
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 01:19 PM
My in PM's are there but my out going are gone!  (http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/YaBBImages/huh.gif)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: JediMAC on April 28, 2004, 01:19 PM
Good God, it looks horrible.   :o  That was the one thing that I still really liked about RS before, was the color scheme and layout.  Looks like crap now.

I also gained about 100 additional incoming PMs that I had long since deleted, which is extremely strange...  If I deleted them over a year and a half ago, how the hell could they have been resurrected, and from where?  Unfortunately, I lost all my saved outgoing PMs though...   :-\

Everything I clicked on was extremely slow too.  Up to almost a minute (on my cable modem at work) for most things.  But on the bright side, I did move up in the world there - from Member #2875 to #1760.  Did they purge a bunch of the inactive folks, I wonder...  Or did things just go that wonky with the switch?

Well, I only wander over there occasionally for trading or store finds, so I guess the eyesore of a new look won't affect me too much...
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Angry Ewok on April 28, 2004, 01:20 PM
I'm pretty sure the forums will still say I'm banned, so,  ;D.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Xander on April 28, 2004, 01:26 PM
Its cluttered and the colors are off and the smiley things look ugly.  And why is it sized so that its smushed in the center of the screen?  I guess it that's normal, but the whole thing looks off.  I guess I'll have to get used to it if I want to enjoy hunting down elusively worthwhile or fun posts.

I can't find any problems I've had with security incompatibilities.  All of my outgoing PMs are gone.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 28, 2004, 01:28 PM
I have to agree with Matt on the look thing it sucks.  I hope they can get it to move faster since its taking a long time for me and I'm on a DSL modem.  A few other things that I don't like about it right now:

You can't edit your post (same thing happen at GH but was eventually fix) (I wonder what Greg(g) is going to do for all of his lists).

All of my sent pms are gone while I got alot of my other older pms back from the deleted file grave.

Also ranks are gone and Post counts are back. ::)

I'm sure there is a lot more once everything starts working.

One thing I like is that I'm now in the top 500 members but one of my old accounts was probally deleted (Old member number 25)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 01:30 PM
Seriously, I can only post with my old PC here. I can no longer use my XP machine OR post from work (which is the majority of occasions).

[edit] woops  :-[
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 28, 2004, 01:32 PM
They must have purged something, I'm now member #1477.  

Are you sure Brad!  ;)  

I just checked out Scotts old posts & low & behold, he has an avatar!

Look familiar!  (http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/greggy.jpg)  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rofl.gif)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Logray2776 on April 28, 2004, 01:36 PM
I dont like it that much, it takes forever for it to load for me, and im on dsl.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 01:38 PM
My biggest problem with it (besides it being ugly, the constant errors, and the fact that I can't post there at all) would be the lack of information per page.

They show like 9 topics per page - and threads go to the next page after what seem slike a very small number of posts - the WAP thread (your stance on it aside) went from an already outrageous 315 pages to over 1100.

Even with the search tool it's pretty much impossible to navigate.

Although I doubt anything will change, if anyone with access could bring up the problems maybe in the feedback section - I'd appreciate it.

Phillip didn't seemed to be concerned at all by the idea that Norton would keep people from being able to get into the forums.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 28, 2004, 01:44 PM
They show like 9 topics per page - and threads go to the next page after what seem slike a very small number of posts - the WAP thread (your stance on it aside) went from an already outrageous 315 pages to over 1100.



You can set topics / replies per page in you profile.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 01:51 PM
They show like 9 topics per page - and threads go to the next page after what seem slike a very small number of posts - the WAP thread (your stance on it aside) went from an already outrageous 315 pages to over 1100.



You can set topics / replies per page in you profile.

I was pretty sure you could set topics, but I didn't know you could do replies per page.  good to know - now, if I could just somehow be allowed to actually post...
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Scott on April 28, 2004, 01:53 PM
I believe they have finally moved to the same software GH has been using for over 2 years...I do like that stuff better than the old because I can reduce the number of sections, edit the number of posts on the screen, see who is online etc...that is cool.  Why they are going to a copycat system and not something all new is a little baffling.  
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Angry Ewok on April 28, 2004, 02:04 PM
Update - Apparently I'm unbanned...

You might wanna fix that, I haven't apoligized yet for "making fun of other members... especially making fun of moderators," as Philip Wise put it.

And I won't be apoligizing to Greg(g)/GNT/God, ever.  :-*
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Matt Carroll on April 28, 2004, 02:35 PM
But on the bright side, I did move up in the world there - from Member #2875 to #1760.  Did they purge a bunch of the inactive folks, I wonder...  Or did things just go that wonky with the switch?

I went from Member #3 to Member #7.  :(

Rob, I was playing around and having Norton running on my Win XP system didn't cause any problems with posting for me.

After using this software over at GH for a while now, it's not that big of a deal for me. Hopefully the errors and slowness are only temporary.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jeff on April 28, 2004, 02:41 PM
I logged in just to check and I dropped all the way to member #823 from #1404 (or something like that).

I can't say that I love the color sceme though.  I agree with the others who thought it was too bright.

Jeff
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2004, 02:47 PM
Color me unimpressed personally...

-First the look is horrific.  I felt like I was looking at an atomic bomb detonation.  Very hurtful to the eyes, difficult to read, etc...

-Doesn't fit my screen totally so I now have a horozontal scroll bar that I didn't have before.

-The whole PM thing is frustrating to say the least, as some of us might have been SAVING PM's in our sent box for a specific reason and weren't alerted to this.  

-Did I mention it looks pretty terrible?  

-It's horrifically slow.  I have a great cable connection, and it's literally taking minutes to open pages for me.  This should change I'd hope, but if it doesn't I can safely say my time there will be finished...  I think others will agree with that.


The only thing I can say is that they can change it likely, and they probably will before it's all said and done, but the colors I doubt they bther changing at all.  And those are the biggest eyesore....  

I was expecting something really special actually, but color me unimpressed.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Chris on April 28, 2004, 02:48 PM
I think the look is pretty rough looking, but I am sure they are just getting things set up. I can tell you it was surely a large task upgrading the forum and their will always be bugs to start.

I guess with the announcing of Scum's new forum software and look, I could announce that JediDefender will quite possibly be getting a total site revamp as well as a forum upgrade when the version is released out of Beta. I will start a thread to see what everyone thinks.

Linky (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=4286)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: SilverZ on April 28, 2004, 02:49 PM
Well, it doesn't actually bother me too much, visually. Smilies are rubbish though. Maybe those post counts reappearing will reinvigorate "core members" of the forum there. ::)

I drudged up my account to see if I was even still there, and sure enough, I am. #1709 and haven't posted since 9/17/02.  8) I guess that's the day I graduated.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: SiteC on April 28, 2004, 03:31 PM
Can't say I like it.

Like others have said, its slow, looks bad, and pages arent loading right for me.  Oh well.  Thats just too bad.

Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: BillCable on April 28, 2004, 06:03 PM
Can anybody actually get it right now?  I'm clicking the link on the RS front page and it says I'm not authorized to view the page.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2004, 06:10 PM
About an hour ago I got a message about UBBClassic or something like that.

Sounds like they're working on some more modifications.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: hansolo_506 on April 28, 2004, 06:34 PM
Only one thing to say.............

(http://animatedtv.about.com/library/graphics/cbg.jpg)
WORST WEBPAGE RECONSTRUCTION EVER!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2004, 06:49 PM
I'm getting the same message you are right now Bill.

I can safely say that if some of the MAJOR things aren't worked out (the horozontal scrolling, page load time, etc.) then I'm dumping Scum from my visitation list all together.  The conversation has been on the downward slope since Saga started really...  I rather enjoyed their previous look better, so I'm torn.  The graphics I can stomach, and smilies aren't important to me anyway, but the load time and side-scroll are obnoxious to me.  
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 28, 2004, 08:04 PM
I was just there...It's fine for me...

Pages loading quick...

Tweeked my options to make it all like the Old RS...save the colors...they're a bit bright, but I haven't run into any bugs yet. You know me though...they're coming down the pike.

EDIT: Ran into a bug....Lost all my sent PMs. >:( A couple trades just went flying out the window! >:(

Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Diddly on April 28, 2004, 10:55 PM
Ugh, reminds me of GH. It's the exact same software. I'll repost my complaints since I'm too lazy to rewrite evreything...

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Reminds me a lot of Galactic Hunter... Wait, this is the exact same layout as them!

I think it will take some getting used to, especially with the many paged threads.

Anyone checked the Who's Online thing? Holy cow, no wonder the forums are slow sometimes.

We definately need the old post icons back.

Like I said, it'll just take some getting used to. I'll give it about a week.

Huh? I can't even edit my last post!

And what's with the server time? It's like 7 minutes off of my PC time (I set in to +2, and it says "7:58" while my PC says "7:51". That's gonna drive me insane like it did on another forum I post at...

I just noticed the Member Number changes. I feel so... dirty with a smaller number. Is that going to be fixed?

That being said, I want the time fixed, the original member numbers back, and the Edit feature returned! >:(

All of my old PM's returned as well. WTF???

Quick loads for me...

That's about all I have to say. GO BACK TO THE OLD 'SCUM!!!!!
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Darby on April 28, 2004, 11:21 PM
I don't like it at all.

It's just one more reason not to go there.  The quality of discussion there has been going downhill for a long, long time, but that's not news.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 28, 2004, 11:29 PM
I'll be nice.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jesse James on April 29, 2004, 02:22 AM
I hopped in there before bed hoping they'd at least fixed the side-scroll that a lot of us are experiencing...  The end of every topic's cut off for me still and I have to scroll to see the thread in its entirety (like someone posted a damn large pic, but in EVERY thread)...

That's not fixed then, so now I wonder if they're going to bother or if this is how they want it?  I'm done there if that's the case.  I'm not pissing with scrolling in every topic I read for every reply I read.  Might fit some screens but not mine so F it.

Things are slow there too...  I think it's turning a LOT of the people that do participate away right now.

It's at least loading fast now...  Still, I wonder if the fixes are done, and this is it, or what?
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Mikey D on April 29, 2004, 07:16 AM
Not that I post there much anymore, but I checked it out this morning.  Tried to log in and it tells me my password is incorrect.  I logged in again thinking I mistyped and the same thing happened.  My password is either one of two things on all my accounts and since RS is one of the first places I registered, my password is definitely the first one.  I didn't start using the second one until last year.  And you know what, I really don't care.  I could email them and tell them, but I don't see the point.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 29, 2004, 08:23 AM
Somewhere along the line, Rebelscum just stopped being fun.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Scott on April 29, 2004, 11:11 AM
I dropped from 156 to 143...I noticed P Diddy Wise is now Member #2 ::)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 29, 2004, 11:18 AM
I dropped from 156 to 143...I noticed P Diddy Wise is now Member #2 ::)

Steve Sansweet is member #1 !!
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob L on April 29, 2004, 11:37 AM
Great to see that the forum now fits my 800x600 screen :)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 29, 2004, 12:28 PM
After all the problems yesterday - it seems like many of them have been worked out (although several still remain).

Also, it wasn't Norton but Symantec running on my work machine - and without changing anything on my end, I'm able to post from work again...so...whatever...
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: JediMAC on April 29, 2004, 02:21 PM
Can't even get in now.  I'm on a cable modem here at the office, and I can't even get their main forum page to load.  No biggie, just entertaining really.

On another note, looks like GH has followed suit and redone their forums as of this morning as well.  Maybe it'll just take some getting used to there, but I liked the old design a little better.  The colors are easier on the eyes now, but I don't think the overall layout/design is as "classy" as it was before.  I'm sure Mike will be tweaking it a little more, so I should probably wait to pass final judgement 'til it's all finished.

Not to mention we're looking into redesigning ours soon (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=4286) too.  Always in motion is the future...of SW collecting forums.   :P
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: DSJ™ on April 29, 2004, 02:36 PM
Can't even get in now.  I'm on a cable modem here at the office, and I can't even get their main forum page to load.  No biggie, just entertaining really.

On another note, looks like GH has followed suit and redone their forums as of this morning as well.  Maybe it'll just take some getting used to there, but I liked the old design a little better.  The colors are easier on the eyes now, but I don't think the overall layout/design is as "classy" as it was before.  I'm sure Mike will be tweaking it a little more, so I should probably wait to pass final judgement 'til it's all finished.

RS has been on & off for awhile this morning.

Ya might want to check out this announcement over at GH Matt.  :-*

New Color Scheme and OTC Forums (http://www.galactichunter.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ANN&Number=65443&Main=65425#Post65443)

I changed mine back to the old way.  ;)  Better on the eyes.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jesse James on April 29, 2004, 03:35 PM
I visited now, and thankfully they did away with the scrolling...

Now I just despise the color scheme, and I'm somewhat peeved at the purging of the member #'s.  Not that it's a HUGE deal by any means, but it's insulting to do away with members who just aren't active and bump people up who AREN'T people who "were there" in the olden CSW days.

I was #1214 I think, and now i'm like in the 600's...  There's something wrong with taking the place of someone who WAS there before me, should he/she decide to return.  Then again, it may have been a necessity to clear out things there so benefit of the doubt and all.  Nonetheless, there's members there didn't deserve bumping up ahead of guys like Dax, Burn, etc...  Maybe just nostalgia on my part, and remembering when the site was a lot more fun because of the people who MADE things fun.

Just my three fiddy...
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on April 29, 2004, 04:06 PM

Now I just despise the color scheme, and I'm somewhat peeved at the purging of the member #'s.  

I actually think there are lots of options for other color schemes you can personalize your settings to use.

It's back up and running and I'm slowly getting used to it... my two peeves now are that the thread most recently posted in doesn't go to the top of the page - and the WAP thread that everyone hates refuses to load - it just times out all the time.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on April 29, 2004, 05:29 PM
I can't stand it. The W&P thread is freaking useless now, and I don't like the little add-ons. It has an ignore feature that doesn't work, and a laundry list too numerous to take the effort and post.

I posted that I'll give  them a week to work out the bugs before I start posting over there again (not that I'm sure they give a flying phuck). It IS difficult so go through such a massive change like that and NOT have problems.

A friend of mine owns a local board here in Dallas, and his upgrade was a nightmare. I had to help with it, and it was headache after headache. We lost 3 days of posts, which pissed everybody off, too.

So, I feel their pain. Upgrading board software is a hard earned way
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: hasek3993 on April 29, 2004, 05:36 PM
thats one of the smaller reasons i came over here, it looks terrible and its real hard to see ANYTHING. oh well  no biggie, ill still check there for trades and props , but  not much else.
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 29, 2004, 10:40 PM
The W&P thread is freaking useless now

Truer words were never spoken!

 :)
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Jediknight760071 on April 30, 2004, 11:32 PM
Wow..WAP isn't opening and now I'm getting timed out logging in.

Also...It says "The forum is being moved to another server. Back soon."


So...What's your take on this?
Title: Re: The Scum's New Look
Post by: Rob on May 1, 2004, 12:17 AM
Wow..WAP isn't opening and now I'm getting timed out logging in.

Also...It says "The forum is being moved to another server. Back soon."


So...What's your take on this?

The WAP thread has been having some trouble - but was working fine for me today.

As for the new server thing - I assume it means just that - they're changing servers - probably as part of working out the bugs.

Title: Everything Rebelscum
Post by: hansolo_506 on June 11, 2004, 05:44 PM
I don't know why, but I started a thread at Rebelscum on a new topic related to a very old thread.  I felt it was a good enough subject to warrant it's own thread, but one of the mods, who seems to enjoy his post, deemed my thread crap and gave the old standard "use the other thread" line.

I guess I wouldn't have been as ticked off about it, but to me it was a viable topic.  You would think there would be some system in line to have a mod email the person that started the thread and have them give reasons why it should or shouldn't be closed.

I guess I wouldn't have been as ticked off about it, but this same mod starts all these absolutely inane threads in other parts of the Scum forum.

Am I the only one that is really starting to get tired with how Scum seems to be going to someplace warmer in a container carried by hand?

Is that why we are all over here at JD?

(Jumping off my soapbox now.. someone else can jump on)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2004, 05:49 PM
Is that why we are all over here at JD?

Um...  BINGO!   ;)  And most of us have been for quite some time.  Not that we don't all love Greg(g) dearly though.   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 11, 2004, 06:03 PM
Frankly... Rebelscum sucks.

I'm honored to say I'm banned from their site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SilverZ on June 11, 2004, 06:18 PM
RS is like a bad memory of my Freshman year of High School - nothing I need to experience again.

I'm glad you brought this up because I was thinking of starting a similar thread about people's division of time posting on all the major boards. I'm curious how people divide their time - do folks here still post at all at RS? At GH? Do you guys find yourselves having the same conversations twice if posting at more than one place, or are there differences that keep you in those communities?

I haven't posted at RS since GH opened - the maturity level scared me away even before the rule of GNT, and now I don't post at GH simply because I feel I get my fill here. I don't even cruise and lurk like I used to, with the exception of checking the local area reports. That's just how I manage to focus my attention - GH has always been cool.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2004, 06:26 PM
I'm glad you brought this up because I was thinking of starting a similar thread about people's division of time posting on all the major boards.

Other boards (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=1341).   ;)

(feel free to give it a bump, if you'd like)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SilverZ on June 11, 2004, 06:37 PM
(feel free to give it a bump, if you'd like)

Looks like it's been done to death, so I'll take a pass.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jokabofe on June 11, 2004, 06:37 PM
since i found this place, i rarely post over at rs, and i never signed up at gh (at least i don't think i did. if i did, i may have posted once or twice.).

the only sections i even check at rs anymore are the classifieds.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 11, 2004, 06:45 PM
I think that is one of the stuipid things about RS.  There is no set rule on how long an old topic should stay un-bump and a new topic started (except now with the 500 post limits).  I have't posted a lot on Scum lately for a number of reasons some of them being Greg(g) and Greg(g) Jr but I enjoy the stuipdity of they fights they have.  I also have posted alot over at GH since the War and politics thread was moved there and the whole mess of people went over there.  I'm just glad JD has said no politics allowed with some exceptions to help ensure nothing gets out of hand before anything starts.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 11, 2004, 06:59 PM
I'll ocassionaly post at Rebelscum, but not much. I have something in mind though for this summer. Go out with a bang (shout out to Greg(g) who is no doubt reading this) I think. That place is going to be a mad house come the DVD influx anyway.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Darby on June 11, 2004, 07:29 PM
I don't post there much anymore.  I don't post here as much as I used to, only because I've been so dang busy lately.  But RS hasn't been a fun environment for a long while, which is why I migrated happily over here.   :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 11, 2004, 07:40 PM
Isn't there already a 'scum-bashing thread around here? Let's close this one. :P

I have't posted a lot on Scum lately for a number of reasons some of them being Greg(g) and Greg(g) Jr but I enjoy the stuipdity of they fights they have.

Okay, who's "Greg(g) Jr?"

I haven't been to the RS forums in quite some time. Before I left I instigated some of the rules there but didn't care for the way they were (or weren't) being enforced. Too many absentee mods for my taste and powermad vigilantes who don't understand the rules they do have enough to adhere to them themselves.

I guess that's why I like JD; the consistency in moderation. It's really friendly, by design, by reputation, and by example.

GH is a different animal altogether. The BHC is like a favorite shirt; worn but comfortable. If I had to compare the three boards I'd do it like this:

BHC = VH1 (mostly the stuph I grew up with)
JD = MTV (the beat of the modern collector)
RS = Nickelodeon (juvenile content, mostly a place for kids)

(Or maybe the BHC is my sit-down diner, JD is my favorite fastfood drive thru, and RS is frickin' Chuck E. Cheese's. I don't know...)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 11, 2004, 07:47 PM
RS is frickin' Chuck E. Cheese's. I don't know...)

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rofl.gif)  Sorry, this one got me in tears!  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2004, 08:29 PM
Isn't there already a 'scum-bashing thread around here? Let's close this one.  :P

Yeah, there might be "a few" floating around here...   :P

But I should point out that when a pretty identical topic pops up here at JD that we've already had before, a couple of us mods with a good memory may be inclined to hit the ol' (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/merge.gif) button (which RS doesn't have), and just slap it right onto the end of the prior one.  We certainly don't expect folks to go looking for the older topics though, and it definitely doesn't bother us in the slightest to merge them, since it's quite simple really, as long as it's cool with the new thread's author, which we'll usually verify.   ;)

That said, I won't be merging this one with any of the older RS "constructive criticism" threads.  Maybe someday down the road I'll create a master "The Official Rebelscum Appreciation Society", and just merge 'em ALL in there.  How'd that be, eh?   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 11, 2004, 09:15 PM
How'd that be, eh?

Almost sound like your a Canadian Eh! Good day. Eh!  :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jadesfire on June 11, 2004, 10:07 PM
 The prop forum at RS is actually pretty good.  There are a few pissing contests between a few members but the mod (I think it's JOSHEE, but I'm not sure) keeps it under control.  Mostly everyone respects each other’s opinions and it's just a more mature atmosphere.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Morgbug on June 11, 2004, 10:33 PM
I poke my head into the vintage forums at RS.  Use it for the buy/sell/trade aspect and post when I'm feeling contentious, but that's not terribly often or unless someone is being really dumb about something I know a lot about.  

GH is cool, but I just never really got into it that much.  I like it.  A lot.  But...

I like JD better mostly because I know more people here and it is like Cheers.  It's cliquey as all hell, but that's ok, cuz I'm at least part way in.  

Snowtroopers eats up a fair bit of my time too, but second to JD.  It gained a bit of a younger edge with the switch and Koda seemed to get bored/tired so I spend more time here.  Still loyal to it though.  

Face it, I'm old.  I like adult conversation and don't feel any need to be threatened by a pissant 13 year old on daddy's computer ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 11, 2004, 11:38 PM
...cuz I'm at least part way in.

Exactly what makes you think that?!   ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Ben on June 11, 2004, 11:48 PM
I go to RS mostly for the Area Reports (as if there was much to report here) and sometimes I'll stick my head in Wuher's, but it's like a grade school cafeteria sometimes.

I forgot my password for GH, and haven't been to the forums since my computer had a little 'accident'. The e-mail I signed up with there is no longer active, and I don't feel like a reregister.

I like this place. You guys put up with my lameass wit. I appreciate that. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2004, 12:10 AM
I haven't cared much for Rebelscum since last November, when I was permanently banned.  (Henrik, Obi-Rat, Gregggggg, and Phil--you guys can suck my ass.)

I still miss posting over there sometimes, though.  The sheer amount of morons that continue to do their business over there deserve a good beating every so often, but unfortunately, there's not too many people left at Rebelscum to dole out the punishment.

As for Galactic Hunter, well, I think that most of the people over there suck (both mods and members), so I kind of stopped posting over there, too, about the same time last year

JD has pretty much been the only Star Wars-based forum I've posted at in months (with the exception of my ultra lame-ass, Oklahoma City-based "collector's club", Jedi OKC (http://www.jediokc.com)).

I think (and I mean this in all honesty) that if Mr. Pearson wasn't involved with JD, that I'd give up posting on Star Wars sites altogether.  

It's just not fun like it used to be.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 12, 2004, 12:45 AM
Don't make me love you :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Morgbug on June 12, 2004, 12:53 AM
...cuz I'm at least part way in.

Exactly what makes you think that?!   ::)

Pr*ck.

Enough people still talk to me.  You don't count :-*

I think Virex speaking of pricks is just sad because Mainland hasn't been around to kick lately.  Tell me I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 12, 2004, 12:56 AM
Actually, I think I'm the only 'youngin' to make the cross over and stay. Maybe that's why I feel so alienated  :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2004, 12:58 AM
Rebelscum is a ghost town nowadays...

but you all already knew that...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2004, 01:00 AM
Actually, Mainland0 Calrissian getting a job at McDonald's is right up there with Duthro stepping down as a mod, and Fanboy stepping down entirely, as one of the best things that's ever happened to this forum, in my opinion.

I'm lovin' it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Morgbug on June 12, 2004, 01:06 AM
Nice segue-ish thing going there.  Place of employment plus the catch phrase.  Very nice.  

Ok.  I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2004, 01:22 AM
Nice segue-ish thing going there.  Place of employment plus the catch phrase.  Very nice.

You like that?  I kinda like that, myself.  

Thanks.  

Quote
Ok.  I'm wrong.

Well, you are probably a little bit right.

Maybe it's kind of like when the old family cat that you love to torment the hell out of for not using the litterbox dies --  on one hand, you're glad the house doesn't smell like cat piss anymore, but on the other hand, you kind of miss kicking him around afterwards.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jesse James on June 12, 2004, 01:47 AM
Rebelscum's better than a lot of places...  That much I can say for them, and they do have some good staff and good mods there, they're just not filled with them, and my #1 issue would be...

They don't handle ANY actual problems they have.

It's cool they hired GNT to "give him a try" but to say his work there is anything above unacceptable is to give him entirely too much credit/sympathy.  And this is coming from someone who doesn't actually despise him as a hypocrite...  I try giving the benefit of the doubt.

I just see him as NOT being good at his "job" as it were.  You can't be with his personality...  Same can be said for a lot of people deemed moderator at a TON of sites.  Some people don't have the right personality for it because it requires you to bite your tongue in public a LOT.  To me, moderators aren't people you hire based on their activity in a forum, but their quality of posts...  You gotta ask "how often does this guy cause friction or reply to friction?", and understandably (myself included) a lot of people get into debates/arguments at forums.  It's the nature of people.

That said, I still go to Scum...  I've always obeyed their rules (the few times I've been "reprimanded" by staff there were out of line IMO, and not by their best staff), and I enjoy parts of their forums...  They're nothing of what they were when I started at CSW though.  They're a shell of that level of quality by far.

I go to GH.com too of course, but it's not what CSW was.  That's sad too because I was really hoping it would be.  I used to not go to GH.com much at all because I had dial-up and their site loads slowly even on Cablenet for me...  Dial-up then was attrocious.

Good guys there though for the most part, and even disagreements are usually handled tactfully.  

Of course, this is my home and I've found it to have the most interesting activity and the most interesting people.  We don't have too many conflicts, and when we do the staff's able to talk about them openly to get a resolution to it.  God knows we've had that problem in the past (not recently, knock on wood).  

Scum's got good people at it though, for all its negative attention right now...  With a swift kick in the collective ass of their admin (no offense), it could be better, but I don't foresee this so I'm happily away from there as my SW "home" permanently.  Still fun to stop in, and like Virex said there's definitely some people there that need shaken up once in a while.  For every great member there there are 2 or 3 bad members that just have terrible opinions.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 12, 2004, 02:35 AM
Oh AngryEwok...I miss you so...
Still have my sig line down there.

I haven't 'Made the Cross' here, but I do drop in from time to time...I like RS, mainly because of the Look What I found Section...I also like the EU sections, and Wuhers has a couple nice threads...occasionally.

RS has changed since I joined though...It was nice being a newb. I never noticed so much baiting, trolling and flaming...Must be hard running and Internet forum, photo Archive, collection engine, and news website all at once though. I don't blame Philip, or any Admin for getting pissy.

I haven't had any run-ins with mods...at least none I can remember, so I really don't have any reason to dislike them. Which is nice...Cause I can space myself from all this Anti-GNT, anti Obi-robz, anti-JoshEEE stuff.

It is getting annoying there though...so many people are too proud of their posting, and it's a shame they read with the attitude they do...I often think RS would be a much greater community if there were better ways to convey emotion in posts.

And the new members are getting annoying...I can think of a few, and a few oldies that are getting weird lately....

Trade Forums are nice though...same as area reports...Customizing section is busy too...Nice to see customs...but when there is a bad one, even constructive criticism is frowned upon...weird. You've got to say 'Great job!' or 'Looking nice' even if the figure looks like crap.

But I'm afraid ,that with my luck, when I decide to come over here for the majority, most Scummers wil decide that too, and these boards will get warped too. Shame...I'll probably just stop posting a bit after I reach Grand Moff... There's not much to talk about now...

And I'll probably come around for Ep3, but it'll be a newbie frenzy and that'll make it a sucky time.


I know you guys, at least most of you, hate me because of my childish rants, and useless posts, but maybe I'm not so bad after all.

No hard feelings? Wow...It's been awhile since I've seen AngryEwok PM me that.  :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SiteC on June 12, 2004, 03:29 AM
I just don't post all that much anymore, anywhere.  I actually have a job now which eats alot of my time.  And when I do get online, i don't want to waste my time posting things that nobody gives a **** about.  I've found unless you are part of the 'in' clique at 'Scum, most of your posts and comments go largely ignored.  So why contribute at all?

The problem I have with members over there is the fact everyone is so damn negative all the time about everything.  Of course then we have GNT with his 10 trillion post count, which is just...scary.  The site is good for news and thats about it.  And even then GH beats them most of the time, plus has better photo archives and what not.

so whatever.  I don't really care much.  I do give Scum credit though, at least their forums are not as horrid as TFN boards.  I cannot even stand that site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 12, 2004, 03:54 AM
Ah, heck.  No hard feelings Justin.  And I don't think anyone hates you.  I'm sure some folks think you're a bit "nutty" at times, but that's no big deal.  Probably the thing that would irritate folks is the comment about reaching Grand Moff, since nobody here really cares about post counts/rankings.  But it's been fun watching you youngin's "grow" over the past year or two.  Seems like some pretty good improvements from a number of you guys since back when you first started.  More content and quality in the posts, and I'm not just speaking about you.  Keep at it, and someday you may just be mentioned in the same breath as studs like Jesse James, mosnab, Morgbug, Tydirium, and even OCB!   8)

Anyway, that's all we really look for here at JD - quality and content.  So don't get too down on yourself.  Just have fun on the boards, and enjoy your collecting, and you should be just fine.  JD will always be here, and feel free to drop in to our SoCal thread from time to time too!  I'm always interested in what's hanging around in my old stomping grounds of OC, and a few of us still make pretty frequent trips down there.

And if there is a pretty big Ep. 3 bum rush on the forums, including here at JD, we'll be ready for it.  We've got some of the best mods in the business here, so I think we'll be able to handle it and keep things running smoothly here at Cheers...   ;)

But some people have brought up some valid points about RS here.  There are still a few mature and/or worthwhile sections over at RS, that are good for a look and some decent conversation and helpful information IMO.  Most notably the Vintage, Customs, and Props forums comes to mind, which not-so-coincidentally are the boards that have the "older" collectors participating in them.  Then of course, with the sheer multitude of people over there, the Store Reports and Classifieds can be helpful too.

Of course, they still have Greg(g) there, so he kinda offsets some of those positives...   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Darth Kenobi on June 12, 2004, 11:42 AM
Isn't there already a 'scum-bashing thread around here? Let's close this one. :P

I have't posted a lot on Scum lately for a number of reasons some of them being Greg(g) and Greg(g) Jr but I enjoy the stuipdity of they fights they have.

Okay, who's "Greg(g) Jr?"



Durge, he seems to be going for the rank of emperor now and has gotten this whole thing were he thinks he is a mod or something over there.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2004, 01:18 PM
Isn't there already a 'scum-bashing thread around here? Let's close this one. :P

I have't posted a lot on Scum lately for a number of reasons some of them being Greg(g) and Greg(g) Jr but I enjoy the stuipdity of they fights they have.

Okay, who's "Greg(g) Jr?"



Durge, he seems to be going for the rank of emperor now and has gotten this whole thing were he thinks he is a mod or something over there.  

Truer words have yet to be spoken...the dude chimes in on every single topic that doesn't interest him with something along the lines of "this doesn't interest me very much one way or the other" - end post.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 12, 2004, 03:23 PM
WTF? That is not true at all. This threads does not interest me... Bye.


 ;D


I am beginning to hate RS because of GNT. He is by far the biggest jackass I have ever come into contact with. At least I have interest in the things I post. He lives in Australia and posts in threads about Weekends or Celebration 3.

I do nothing wrong. There are just a few ******* who seem to think that since I have a "high" post count, I'm just screwing with everyone and I don't actually have interest in what I post. Listen up you **** heads!

 ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 12, 2004, 03:25 PM
Oh and about the mod accusation... I don't want to be moderator, I just believe that if someone does something wrong and they are not reprimanded, then their peers should step in and let them know.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 12, 2004, 03:48 PM
 But it's been fun watching you youngin's "grow" over the past year or two.  Seems like some pretty good improvements from a number of you guys since back when you first started.  More content and quality in the posts, and I'm not just speaking about you.  Keep at it, and someday you may just be mentioned in the same breath as studs like Jesse James, mosnab, Morgbug, Tydirium, and even OCB!   8)


I doubt we (the young ones) will ever be able to occupy the same space as you guys. Ya'll are legends.

Now something I fear for the coming year is a large amount of trolling, stupid threads, and an increased number of people. I suppose a slight touch of isolationism could hypotheticaly come into play next year, but, really the ideas at JD are shared so many places it wouldn't work.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Dark_Kanos on June 12, 2004, 03:57 PM
Lets see I belong to Jedi Defender's forums and Rebelscum's! Rebelscum has been great except for a few dumb people! Replies are very good very and updated a lot and here it seems like when every I post people just ignore it and I feel awful by posting it!  8) Just my words!  8)  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 12, 2004, 04:04 PM
Well Ben I'm sorry you feel ignored but keep in mind you haven't even posted 10 times yet.  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2004, 05:13 PM
here it seems like when every I post people just ignore it and I feel awful by posting it!

I feel awful by you posting it.

One forum just isn't enough to sh!t on--let's all come over to Jedi Defender and sh!t all over their forums, too.  My idocy shouldn't be limited just to one forum!
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jediknight760071 on June 12, 2004, 06:06 PM
here it seems like when every I post people just ignore it and I feel awful by posting it!

I feel awful by you posting it.

One forum just isn't enough to sh!t on--let's all come over to Jedi Defender and sh!t all over their forums, too.  My idocy shouldn't be limited just to one forum!
I'm beginning to see why people like you.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Muftak on June 12, 2004, 06:45 PM
I enjoy their diorama section. A lot of nice (not to mention talented) fellows in there.

Otherwise, meh...I like the atmosphere here.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 12, 2004, 07:35 PM
The only things about RS that I find to be "better" than JD are:

-Vintage Community
-Other Collectibles Community
-Prop Community
-Customizing Communtiy
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2004, 10:36 PM
The only things about RS that I find to be "better" than JD are:

-Vintage Community
-Other Collectibles Community
-Prop Community
-Customizing Communtiy

I'm pretty sure blasphemy such as this is grounds for dismissal under the Jedi Defender Superiority Decree.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on June 12, 2004, 10:57 PM
JD could definitely use a more dedicated prop crowd, as well as other collectibles. Should we start recruiting? Let's start by NOT recruiting a certain little stone.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 12, 2004, 11:10 PM
The only things about RS that I find to be "better" than JD are:

-Vintage Community
-Other Collectibles Community
-Prop Community
-Customizing Communtiy

I'm pretty sure blasphemy such as this is grounds for dismissal under the Jedi Defender Superiority Decree.


"Uh-oh!"
-Peter Griffin (Wish Upon a Weinstein)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DoctorPadawan on June 13, 2004, 11:24 AM
This pretty much sums up my feelings on the RS forums: I registered for the RS forums before the CSW absorption took place, and reregistered there when that occurred.  In the five years or so I was registered there, I made about 45-50 posts total.  By way of comparison, since I've been on JD's boards, I've made almost that many posts in the last six months.  I'm a veteran of the old Usenet rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting* newsgroups, and to say that Usenet was much more friendly and mature than RS's boards is really saying something.

I just didn't get any feeling of community with RS's boards.  It all seemed like one big pissing contest with nobody being all that willing to help others out.  On RASSC, we pretty much all knew each other on some level (or at least knew of each other), it was very communal, and even if we didn't care for a particular person, there was still a mutual respect.  I made some lasting friendships from RASSC, but when the great newsgroup split proposal failed in 1999, I made my exit.  I still keep in touch with many of those people, but the newsgroup as a community pretty much died.

With RS, as I said, it's more about "my dad can beat up your dad", if that makes any sense.  It's all about "RS just put up photos of something a guy in Timbuktu found in a yard sale...f**k you, other SW toy sites!"  Or, in more recent cases, and not a direct quote, "JD has had a report about who an exclusive figure is for the last week, but since they're not a 'reputable' website, we're going to ignore it and act like it's news only when *we* post about it!"  As someone else in the thread said earlier, it does have the feel of a cafeteria in high school, with people doing everything in the world to undercut everyone else. To quote the films, and cement my nerd status, "there is no civility, only politics."

(at this point I made some rather inflammatory comments about certain moderators whose name ends in one or two "G"'s, but to avoid any problems, I have deleted that portion of the original post)

As for moderators and site admins, that's another reason I don't go to RS anymore.  After the mess with the TFN boards (how did that work out, by the way?), I'm done patronizing Philip Wise's sites at all.  I went over a few minutes ago to see what had happened to the RS forums (I hadn't seen the changes that had been made) and just started laughing.  I still remember Wiseacres.com, Philip; way to sell out the entire fan community you claimed to love so much.   :P

As for other sites, I take my hat off to the fine folks at JD, Yakface, and GH.com.  You're all doing fine work, and you should be proud.  RS, may you fade into obscurity and be forgotten completely.


Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 13, 2004, 03:29 PM
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Oh and about the mod accusation... I don't want to be moderator,

I've found in life that it's very easy for one to say that one does not "want" a job after one "applies" for it and is rejected.  ;)


Sorry, but blatant dishonesty bugs me a bit.


Anyhoo.....I've read through this thread (as I always do) and suppose my response is the same as it always is. I really like this place a lot, and I like that place a lot too. I obviously balance the majority of my posting over there....but I do visit here quite often.

As far as collecting goes, RS still benefits me the most because of the traffic it gets to the classifieds, look what I found and trading sections. It's just unreal how fast you can get responses to certain requests.....and tons of Seattle-area collectors help each other out over there. I've tried to start Seattle threads on other boards, but for some reason....we're just all based at RS.

As for the off topic chat sections, yeah...I totally agree there is a much more mature theme over here, and that's why I pop by and just read even if I'm not posting all the time.

Sure, there are a lot of silly topics and discussions that run themselves into the ground, but that's going to happen at bigger places. It would definitely be nice to have a higher active moderator to member ratio (especially so I don't have to be the dick that closes every lame thread down when it gets reported), but ultimately that's not up to me.


That....and I still love the fact you can say "ass" here.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 13, 2004, 03:43 PM
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Oh and about the mod accusation... I don't want to be moderator,

I've found in life that it's very easy for one to say that one does not "want" a job after one "applies" for it and is rejected.  ;)

Uh....when was this?! ???
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 13, 2004, 04:45 PM
To be fair, I think that was back in January.....and I'm sure a lot could have changed since then.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Chris on June 13, 2004, 04:52 PM
Durge, you have made a few comments that I find to be pretty inaccurate. If you are going to bash GNT, make sure it is intelligent. Saying that he is the "biggest jackass" because he never posted in the religious and political threads is just stupid. If you want to stay out of a flame war (in most cases), you're a jackass?

Your coming over to this site thinking you are some in house name is somewhat annoying with the backup of not-so-intelligent posts that you have already made. A little bit more respect in your posts would make more sense.

Josh, thanks for coming and stating your thoughts, always nice to have someone who can balance and not be a fool. I do want to comment though, I think it is a cop out to say because Scum is a large(r) forum that it is too hard to moderate at times. Scum fails in the forum dept. as a whole (IMO) because the adminstrators can't make solid decisions and implement them.

Thanks ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2004, 05:05 PM
Here! Here!
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Diddly on June 13, 2004, 05:07 PM
I only visit RS for the main page news and the photo archives. I no longer post in the forums because the members act like babies, and for just about every reason listed already. Plus, I HATE the new look.

JD is the only SW forum I post at now. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 13, 2004, 05:33 PM
Durge, you have made a few comments that I find to be pretty inaccurate. If you are going to bash GNT, make sure it is intelligent. Saying that he is the "biggest jackass" because he never posted in the religious and political threads is just stupid. If you want to stay out of a flame war (in most cases), you're a jackass?

You're coming over to this site thinking you are some in house name is somewhat annoying with the backup of not-so-intelligent posts that you have already made. A little bit more respect in your posts would make more sense.

Josh, thanks for coming and stating your thoughts, always nice to have someone who can balance and not be a fool. I do want to comment though, I think it is a cop out to say because Scum is a large(r) forum that it is too hard to moderate at times. Scum fails in the forum dept. as a whole (IMO) because the adminstrators can't make solid decisions and implement them.

Thanks ;D

Yeah, I thought the same thing so I deleted the post. No need to be rude about it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SWcollectorDUDE on June 13, 2004, 06:27 PM
Well I think scum is kinda cool, but lets be honest most of them are just jerks.  I mean who runs the place a 60yr old rich guy.  I mean he cares about nothing but hsi money.  Most forums care about losing a member even just one, but they enjoy banning their members.  It's not just you but it's also annoying when you go to make a post, and thre is only posts from each day.  With such a large community it is a pain in the ass to search for a thread you made under a week ago.  I honeslty don't post too much, but I do have another forum over this one.  I just joined I hope people here are nicer then scum, and not to cause trouble but galactichunter has a lot of mean people who start flames.  Sometimes not funny just immature.  I go to another forum but I won't even post a link here I don't want to take members away from this site.  Not that it would most site just don't tolerate any links.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: SWcollectorDUDE on June 13, 2004, 06:31 PM
To be fair, I think that was back in January.....and I'm sure a lot could have changed since then.  :)
Scum has been up since 95 so 9 years and only changes since january?
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Chris on June 13, 2004, 07:15 PM
Durge, you have made a few comments that I find to be pretty inaccurate. If you are going to bash GNT, make sure it is intelligent. Saying that he is the "biggest jackass" because he never posted in the religious and political threads is just stupid. If you want to stay out of a flame war (in most cases), you're a jackass?

You're coming over to this site thinking you are some in house name is somewhat annoying with the backup of not-so-intelligent posts that you have already made. A little bit more respect in your posts would make more sense.

Josh, thanks for coming and stating your thoughts, always nice to have someone who can balance and not be a fool. I do want to comment though, I think it is a cop out to say because Scum is a large(r) forum that it is too hard to moderate at times. Scum fails in the forum dept. as a whole (IMO) because the adminstrators can't make solid decisions and implement them.

Thanks ;D

Yeah, I thought the same thing so I deleted the post. No need to be rude about it.

Not rude, just frank.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2004, 09:32 PM
Not rude, just frank.  :)

I don't think Durge is going to be around to respond, Chris Berry--sadly, he's deleted his account.  :(

How are the rest of us supposed to continue?

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 13, 2004, 09:39 PM
Durge is gone? No. No you're all lying...

I can't talk right now.  :'(
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 13, 2004, 09:42 PM
I noticed he deleted his account too.  :(
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2004, 09:52 PM
Durge is gone? No. No you're all lying...

I can't talk right now.  :'(

Dude, it took me two hours just to compose my above reply.

My tears briefly shorted out my keyboard.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 13, 2004, 10:54 PM
 This is Jangofettish all over again!

I feel so dirty for even posting in this thread! :'(
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2004, 10:59 PM
Might as well close the whole site down now... I'm sure 80% of the members here will follow Durge right back over to the scum...  :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2004, 11:11 PM
I'm sure 80% of the members here will follow Durge right back over to the scum...  :-\

The Durge is my shepherd; I shall not want.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Chris on June 13, 2004, 11:11 PM
Note to self: Follow Durge.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 04:17 AM
He's gone already? Man that was fast. Is he banned here too?  ;D

Either way....Durge sent me this PM but because he was gone, I couldn't reply to his message. Apparently, I hit the wrong reply button (above his) and BDW got a nice suprise from me this evening and wondered if HE'D been banned from RS.  :)

THEN...to make matters worse I attempted to reply to one of the hundreds of posts Durge has reported in his previous days at scum that I still had in email, but forgot that the new system over there sends the reply to the admins instead of the person who reported the post.

So now about a half dozen people have seen the same stupid message I tried to send to Durge.

Because of this fiasco, I have now decided that Durge is the center of all evil in the universe....and I shall never reply to him again on ANY site.

Or maybe I'll just get some sleep because it's 1am out here, and my judgement is a little impaired.  ;)

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jkno on June 14, 2004, 05:14 AM
I only visit RS for the main page news and the photo archives. I no longer post in the forums because the members act like babies, and for just about every reason listed already. Plus, I HATE the new look.

JD is the only SW forum I post at now. :)

not all memebers are childish. :) I still go there to watch the Action fleet section, trade and classifieds sections and somketimes Wuher. And recently Trade Feedback section.

I sort of like the new look, especially the Favorite threads option. That is COOL!!
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jesse James on June 14, 2004, 05:42 AM
If Durge is to read this, for whatever reason (I don't believe he is banned here Josh...  Not yet anyway, unless Chris did so without mentioning it or it showing up on his name there), I figured I'd make a post so he doesn't feel so harshly treated.

Like Chris said, it was more brutal honesty than harshness.

I've watched Durge and GNT go back and forth at each other, and while a lot of people give you props for not "taking it" from GNT (which nobody should have to), they also don't respect the WAY either of you post.

I'm not saying myself here...  I was indifferent, and part of me liked seeing GNT get pissed off at, more or less, looking in a mirror.

But by that very statement, it's not a complement on your posting habits Durge.  Unfortunately you weren't there before GNT became a mod, if I'm correct, and it's your posting habits now that are the reason a LOT of people don't respect GNT in the first place.

He basically did (and often still does) the same things you were.  Reporting posts when it isn't his job to "police" people posting...  posting no matter when/where to seemingly just have one more post (quantity over quality for short).

Again, I ignored GNT's behavior as just the type of guy he was...  I only clashed with him when he clashed with me directly, which wasn't terribly often.  Others though, disliked GNT because he simply wasn't someone whose opinion really struck you as "great".  You didn't look forward to his latest reply.  It was filler most of the time.

You were becoming similar to a lot of people.  I know this only because I've heard the same rumblings arise towards you as towards GNT in his early days.

The rumblings towards GNT now are of a different nature...  They more directly annoy people than before.  They're worse, admittedly.

With that said...

I think it's laughable for Scum to ban Durge and not GNT.  Their decision, but when you ban one who acts one way, you're obligated to ban the other who baited or reacted right alongside the one you banned.  That would be GNT to me.

I'm not saying either should've been banned, but I hold to the fact GNT should be de-modded and they BOTH should be made settle down or face being kicked out.

It's just Durge at GNT's throat over there though.  That little feud worked the opposite direction every thread I ever saw.

It's important to stand by your staff, but it's more important to hire the right people in the first place I think.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 14, 2004, 01:37 PM
I had brown rice for the first time last night and I'm never going back.  The new experience contributed to me missing the RS Durge showdown.  Hell.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 03:19 PM
Hi guys...Meesa back. I feel I need to clear the air about certain things. I might as well just keep this account as I know there will be some backlash. This place isn't so bad. ;) So the deal over at RS is that I've been banned for 30 days. I'm not sure if the reason should be discussed over here, but I can tell you that it had nothing to do with my posting habits, "moderating", etc. There was no "episode" in which I created a thread to flame a certain member that was locked, or something like that. It was a quiet "inside" kind of thing.

I guess I might as well post here until the sentence has drawn out. Who knows? Maybe this place will grow on me. Everyone else seems to really like it here. :)

-Durge :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 04:18 PM
Thirty days? That's steep. Must've really pissed someone off. Well done.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 14, 2004, 04:34 PM
I guess I might as well post here until the sentence has drawn out.

Smart move, Philip - give him to us for thirty days... That'll teach us to post pics of you in your fishing attire.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 04:40 PM
Imagine the trouble THIS image could generate:

(http://www.wiseacres.com/pwoffice1.jpg)

I'm thinking that board in the back should have a list of the banned, suspended, and otherWISE disenfranchised.  ;D

(Or maybe a priority list of some kind, with the forums coming in dead last.)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 14, 2004, 04:43 PM
I'd be interested in seeing a list of the members (specifically those of us here at JD) who have been banned from Rebelscum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 04:49 PM
Thirty days? That's steep. Must've really pissed someone off. Well done.  :)

Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

Angry Ewok, you should ask GNT to make a list. He's good at making lists. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=815861&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#815861) ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 04:51 PM
Might as well close the whole site down now... I'm sure 80% of the members here will follow Durge right back over to the scum...  :-\

Aww, that's nice. It's good to know you're loved. :'( <---Tears of joy.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 04:54 PM
Thirty days? That's steep. Must've really pissed someone off. Well done.  :)

Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

Angry Ewok, you should ask GNT to make a list. He's good at making lists. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=815861&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#815861) ::)
Just don't dare to make your own list (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB36&Number=753626&Forum=f36&Words=checklist&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=753626&Search=true&where=sub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post753626)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 04:54 PM
Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

With sincere admiration. I'd love to know what instigated the ban, but that's your business.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 04:56 PM
I'd be interested in seeing a list of the members (specifically those of us here at JD) who have been banned from Rebelscum.

I haven't (yet)!   ;D  I've only been warned once so far by Philip, for correcting Greg(g)'s dumb ass one too many times...   ::)

It's most amusing how much that little butt turd gets protected over there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 05:00 PM
I've been threatened thrice but never banned...also been told off by Dave and Jeremy a couple of times :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 05:00 PM
Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

John's never sarcastic.  Nor is he ever an instigator.  Hell, he's not even at large right now...   8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 05:04 PM
Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

With sincere admiration. I'd love to know what instigated the ban, but that's your business.


Lies, deceit, and the creation of mistrust. ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 05:05 PM
Just don't dare to make your own list (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB36&Number=753626&Forum=f36&Words=checklist&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=753626&Search=true&where=sub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post753626)

Did Greg's cousing Gregg ever actually lock that checklist Scott?  You should just keep updating it to annoy him, if not.   8)

Your list was up first, anyway!
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2004, 05:05 PM
Thirty days? That's steep. Must've really pissed someone off. Well done.  :)

Are you saying "Well done" in a positive way or a sarcastic way?

Angry Ewok, you should ask GNT to make a list. He's good at making lists. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=815861&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#815861) ::)
Just don't dare to make your own list (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB36&Number=753626&Forum=f36&Words=checklist&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=753626&Search=true&where=sub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post753626)

This post is nolonger needed, the forum has a GNT post which contains all the crap released in the JD.com line, it can be found here (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=28;action=display;threadid=3152)

Remember, please post ONLY in the ONE AND ONLY ONE "approved" thread, started by me in the middle of the night.

God.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 05:07 PM
Just don't dare to make your own list (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB36&Number=753626&Forum=f36&Words=checklist&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=753626&Search=true&where=sub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post753626)

Did Greg's cousing Gregg ever actually lock that checklist Scott?  You should just keep updating it to annoy him, if not.   8)

Your list was up first, anyway!
Yeah he locked it...KBZ and I were plotting at the time to post it before he could get it up.  He came in like a month or two later and locked because he had to have the official one
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 05:08 PM
Lies, deceit, and the creation of mistrust. ;)

Oo, I love it.  :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 05:10 PM
You know what's spooky about that Picture of Gregg's cousin Greg...all evidence that led us to him has been erased from existence...the last place finish in the race, his mom looking for long lost relatives, his fellow Aussie High school chum's message boards, its all gone.  Its like he never existed :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 05:11 PM
Come on guys. Greg only does it to help the collectors. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to see his name at the top of every page.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2004, 05:19 PM
Come on guys. Greg only does it to help the collectors. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to see his name at the top of every page.

(http://members.aol.com/browrob549/emo/happy001.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 14, 2004, 05:23 PM
Come on guys. Greg only does it to help the collectors. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to see his name at the top of every page.

Nice.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jadesfire on June 14, 2004, 05:23 PM
Its like he never existed :o

Who???? 8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 05:24 PM
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Come on guys. Greg only does it to help the collectors. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to see his name at the top of every page.

Now now Pot, let's not go insulting the Kettle again. I can't remember a day in recent history I could go over there and NOT see your name up on the top of just about every single subject on the boards. Aside from maybe Australian Collectors, which I think you've let GNT have to himself for some reason.  ;)

The only difference between you and GNT as far as your posting habits go is that he comes right out and admits that he thinks he's God and I think you're still in denial about your complex.

That and believe it or not, he actually has a sense of humor about people making fun of his post padding. Of course, he's got a few more years practice than you do. ;D


God has spoken.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: MisterPL on June 14, 2004, 05:33 PM
It would seem the biggest difference between Durge and Gregg is that the latter has the power to enforce his own rules.

Gregg used to be a cute little mascot until he started running things his way. He'd be better off owning his own message board if he feels compelled to be a "god."
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 05:46 PM
He'd be better off owning his own message board if he feels compelled to be a "god."

Not a god, John...

The God.

Quote
I'm God, so live with it!
  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 05:53 PM
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It would seem the biggest difference between Durge and Gregg is that the latter has the power to enforce his own rules.

Hehe. You may have a point there.....although to continue to play the Gregg's advocate, after being turned down for the job....Durge had sort of appointed himself a vigilante moderator in the past, so one could argue that the similarities stem even further than you might think.

One in the same? No. But as similar as Greg and Gregg.....maybe.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 05:59 PM
One in the same? No. But as similar as Greg and Gregg.....maybe.  :)

That'd be pretty damned funny if Durge was actually Greg(g)'s alias, and he's been arguing with himself all over the RS boards...   :P

Or maybe Durge is really Greg(g)'s cousin Greg, and they're just having a bit of a family spat...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:31 PM
Getting warmer... ;)

But seriously folks, I think there are many significants differences between Greggypoo and I.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Force Guy on June 14, 2004, 06:36 PM
I think there are many significants differences between Greggypoo and I.

Like?
Title: Aww...Them fellers down at the scum miss me already...
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:37 PM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=848950&Main=848823#Post848950

 :'( <--- Tears of sadness.

28 more days... :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:39 PM
I collect Star Wars stuff...
I have in interest in what I post...
I live in the good 'ol U-S-of-A...

More?...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 06:40 PM
Sorry Durge, but we're just gonna keep the RS/Durge conversation isolated here in this one thread.  No need to start an all-new "Rebelscum misses me" thread, so I merged your new thread here with this old thread (as you can see 2 posts up from here).  The topics are basically one and the same at this point anyway.  So carry on now...   :-*

- Greg(g) Matt

P.S.  Can you imagine what Greg(g) would do if he had access to a cool "Merge" feature, like we do here at JD?!?  (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/merge.gif)   :o
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:43 PM
Okay:


Lookit! Them fellers over at the scum miss me already!

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=848950&Main=848823#Post848950


 :'( <---- Tears of sadness.


28 more days until I can come back... :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:44 PM
Sorry Durge, but we're just gonna keep the RS/Durge conversation isolated here in this one thread.  No need to start an all-new "Rebelscum misses me" thread, so I merged your post here with this thread (2 posts up from here).  That's already part of the topic here in this one.  So carry on now...

- Greg(g) Matt

P.S.  Can you imagine what Greg(g) would do if he had access to a cool "Merge" feature, like we do here at JD?!?  (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/merge.gif)   :o

Cool, you merged them. I didn't even notice so that's why I posted it again. I'm not post-padding or something like that.

Nice site... :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 06:45 PM
You obviously didn't look 3 posts up from here.  I already merged it in here, so there's no need to post it again.  Like I said, handy-dandy "Merge" feature here at JD, that Greg(g) would have an absolute field day with...   :P

Nevermind.  Looks like you're finally catching on...   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:51 PM
So which admin on JD also post on RS and by what name do you go? I know "I Love Koby Bryant" is Old_Cocky...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 06:54 PM
We're all the same names over there, except for Scott (Old Cocky), who's just professing his undying love for the Slayer of the Wolves over here for a little while!   8)

We just rarely ever post over there any more, but we were all quite the regulars before your day, Durge...
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 06:55 PM
JediMac... Why doesn't your name ring a bell? What section do you post in most on RS?
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 07:01 PM
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JediMac... Why doesn't your name ring a bell? What section do you post in most on RS?

This is a perfect advertisement of why people should stop and actually read a few posts in a thread before replying to everything for the sake of replying.

But I've never heard of this "I love Kobe Bryant" jackass, so I think I'll have to heed my own advice and go do some research to find out just who that wacky character could be.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 07:07 PM
Like I said - before your time.  I've pretty much retired from RS for the most part now.  Been pretty much gone for almost 2 years now, like most of the older guys have since the GH split in late '02.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 14, 2004, 07:08 PM
Ugh, you know after reading through some threads there it has just afirmed my utter dislike for Wuhers Cantina. Veery few real conversations there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 07:09 PM
But I've never heard of this "I love Kobe Bryant" jackass, so I think I'll have to heed my own advice and go do some research to find out just who that wacky character could be.

 ;D  Jackass indeed.  Or as we like to call him around here: Princess.   ;)

Still surprised we actually let this clown moderate some of our forums though...   ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 07:13 PM
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JediMac... Why doesn't your name ring a bell? What section do you post in most on RS?

This is a perfect advertisement of why people should stop and actually read a few posts in a thread before replying to everything for the sake of replying.

But I've never heard of this "I love Kobe Bryant" jackass, so I think I'll have to heed my own advice and go do some research to find out just who that wacky character could be.


Nice try, but he just said he doesn't post much at RS any more. :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 07:17 PM
I actually posted in a couple of the same threads you did over there this week.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JoshEEE on June 14, 2004, 07:20 PM
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Nice try, but he just said he doesn't post much at RS any more.

That's true. You've posted more here today than he has there in the last month or so.

Sad state of affairs when people don't know who JediMac is....or why his wife had to spend the night in a crate on the way to my house.

 ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 14, 2004, 07:26 PM
Hm. Creepy.

Care to share?
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: jadesfire on June 14, 2004, 07:31 PM

Sad state of affairs when people don't know who JediMac is....or why his wife had to spend the night in a crate on the way to my house.

 ;D

Now that you've posted that, come on...spill it.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 14, 2004, 07:42 PM
....or why his wife had to spend the night in a crate on the way to my house.
 ;D

Just a trade gone horribly wrong...   :-\  I think I was trying to trade Patty to Josh for the ultra-rare Silver R2 with corrected legs variant.  Or something to that effect.  I recall a pretty serious bidding war over her, so I can't really remember who won.  I think Morgbug may have been involved at some point too...  But somehow, she managed to get lost in the Seattle area for a good month or two, stuck in a large box, with just a few airholes.  At one point, she was feared lost and/or dead, but then she was miraculously discovered and revived, at the very last minute.

Josh, you gonna do the honors, and dig that old thread up at RS, or shall I...?!   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 08:26 PM
 ;D I was just lurking around when I noticed that Durge is spending time over here while his 30 day suspension for chronic indecency is occuring. I just wanted to say that RS is soooooooo much nicer with Durge gone. From reading some of his posts in this thread it appears that Durge thinks that the members over at RS miss him. The truth is, we don't.

Durge, please stay over here and drive these guys crazy for a few years. Let the RS members live in peace.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 14, 2004, 08:38 PM
We don't 'cept yer kind round here! j/k

Please don't come here to flame Durge, do that at Rebelscum.  
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Scott on June 14, 2004, 08:41 PM
I agree with Andrew except maybe we should all tone down the flaming in general, unless its toward JediMAC :-*
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 08:49 PM
Hi guys...Meesa back. I feel I need to clear the air about certain things. I might as well just keep this account as I know there will be some backlash. This place isn't so bad. ;) So the deal over at RS is that I've been banned for 30 days. I'm not sure if the reason should be discussed over here, but I can tell you that it had nothing to do with my posting habits, "moderating", etc. There was no "episode" in which I created a thread to flame a certain member that was locked, or something like that. It was a quiet "inside" kind of thing.

I guess I might as well post here until the sentence has drawn out. Who knows? Maybe this place will grow on me. Everyone else seems to really like it here. :)

-Durge :P


 ;D Funny!

Actually, Durge was suspended for, to put it bluntly, being a a giant bunghole. He runs all over RS doing whatever the heck he wants, regardless of what the forum rules are. Whenever someone (mods, other members) tell him to knock it off, he whines like a little girl about how everyone is picking on him. He thinks that he is popular over at RS, but the reality is that most of the members cannot stand him and the mods are fed up with him.

Another member recently pointed out that he posts almost 600 times per month, which is unbelievable. Why on earth does he need to be on RS that much? I would really love to know why Durge is so obsessed with RS.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 08:51 PM
We don't 'cept yer kind round here! j/k

Please don't come here to flame Durge, do that at Rebelscum.  


Sorry, I just wanted to set the record straight so Durge cannot get away with lying to you guys.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 08:53 PM
And who the hell are you? ??? ::)


Let's see if we can get a nice pattern going:  ??? ::)  8) ::) ??? <--- beautiful
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 08:58 PM
And who the hell are you? ??? ::)



Just an RS member that is sharing the truth with the fine people of www.jedidefender.com.

By the way Durge, I see your posting habits haven't changed. You are well on your way to 600 posts per month on this site as well.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:01 PM
And who the hell are you? ??? ::)



Just an RS member that is sharing the truth with the fine people of www.jedidefender.com.


The truth? You have no damn reason as to why I was suspended. It's really has little to do with anything I wrote for the public to see in the forum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Vator on June 14, 2004, 09:04 PM
Ok Droid Noid, we're all aware of the happenings at Rebelscum, most of us are/were members there.

The staff at JD generally is a little swifter in punishment, so if both of ya'll want to stay out of trouble you should stop, or just tone it down. Just a humble warning form a 'neutral' party.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:09 PM
Hey Vator. Nice to see you here. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:13 PM
Ok Droid Noid, we're all aware of the happenings at Rebelscum, most of us are/were members there.

The staff at JD generally is a little swifter in punishment, so if both of ya'll want to stay out of trouble you should stop, or just tone it down. Just a humble warning form a 'neutral' party.


I get what you are saying. I usually do not like to post messages like I have here. It just bothers me that Durge can cause so many problems on RS and get suspended, but then just come over here and start up the same chaos.

All I ask is that you be doubtful of anything that he says.


Durge, I know exactly what the reasons were for your suspension because I have talked to the people that suspended you.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:19 PM
WTF? What chaos?! I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the forums. :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:21 PM
WTF? What chaos?! I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the forums. :-\

That is what you would like all of us to believe. Thankfully, we are smarter than that.

Someone else in this thread suggested that Durge and  another member might be the same person. Durge has several IDs on RS that he uses for various purposes, so I would not be surprised if he actually has several IDs here as well.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:23 PM
WTF? What chaos?! I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the forums. :-\

That is what you would like all of us to believe. Thankfully, we are smarter than that.


 ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:29 PM
"I wish the banning had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."


What the heck kind of signature is that?

Quit acting like you are some kind of a victim. Someday, I hope that you grow up enough to realize that you cannot do what you have without suffering some kind of consequences.

Your suspension was your own fault. Stop whining.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: BigDumbWookiee on June 14, 2004, 09:34 PM
Droid Noid, thanks for the PSA.  ::) If you're coming over here just to "warn" us about Durge, then just do us all a favor and go back to RS. Seriously, following someone over to another board to flame them under the ruse that you are trying to "protect" the rest of the board against his "lies" is so absolutely ridiculous and childish. Really this whole thread is a big crapfest anyway, and it really more or less makes the JediDefenders look like a bunch of whiny bitches.

JediDefender is not a boarding house for those tired of Rebelscum. If you just want to come over here to bitch about how crappy Rebelscum has become, then go back to RS and bitch about it in Wuhers.

Unless Rebelscum was responsible for feeding your baby to dingos, murdering your parents, or burning your house down, most of us over here simply dont give a ****.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Durge on June 14, 2004, 09:39 PM
"I wish the banning had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."




It's a play on the line from LOTR where Frodo says "I wish the ring had never come to me..." I cannot be held accountable if you are slow witted.

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:40 PM
Seriously, following someone over to another board to flame them under the ruse that you are trying to "protect" the rest of the board against his "lies" is so absolutely ridiculous and childish.

I did not follow Durge over here. As stated in my first post, I was lurking around here. I drop by a few times a week to see what topics are of interest to me. When I came here today I noticed that Durge was here and I just wanted to try to put a stop to whatever he is trying to start on this forum.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Droid Noid on June 14, 2004, 09:44 PM
"I wish the banning had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."




It's a play on the line from LOTR where Frodo says "I wish the ring had never come to me..." I cannot be held accountable if you are slow witted.





I am quite aware of what the line is from.

What I find sickening is that you would alter it and use it as some kind of whining declaration of your innocence.



Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 14, 2004, 09:50 PM
Durge, discontinue the postpadding or you'll be suspended from another forum. You're irritating me and I'm sure everyone else here as well, and when people irritate me they usually disapear. Pretend to be mature, or take your **** somewhere else.

Edit - and by the way I've locked this thread. If one of the guys decides to unlock it - fine by me, but I this is a forum, not a chat room.
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 15, 2004, 03:10 AM
Durge, discontinue the postpadding or you'll be suspended from another forum. You're irritating me and I'm sure everyone else here as well, and when people irritate me they usually disapear. Pretend to be mature, or take your **** somewhere else.

And the same goes for Droid Noid, whoever's alias that may be.  We understand that Durge may not be everyone's favorite forum member, but Adam's right, this crap don't fly here at JD, so knock it off.  Some mild ribbing here and there is tolerable, but the all-out assault on him here isn't cool.  Had I been around at all this evening, this thread would've been shut down after DN's first or second post here.  DN, if you've really been lurking here at JD for a while, is this honestly the only thread that you've found worthy enough to participate in so far?  Some how I highly doubt it...   ::)

We also don't allow members to use our boards as a personal chatroom (which we have elsewhere), so that's got to stop as well - unless you're incredibly witty (like me), in which case we'll let it slide just a bit.

Finally, the JD staff here is well aware of any "situations", as well as the various member conflicts, at other forums, and we closely observe said activity when it occasionally moves over here to JD.  We know the personalities of certain people from other boards (especially RS) and the problems they've had elsewhere and may potentially bring over here, and we are also quite capable of doing further research on our own to investigate new JD members (including searching their RS posts and tracking their IPs), to decide how closely we'll monitor their activity here.  So just as everyone's pointed out that Durge shouldn't be trying to moderate at RS (or here), Droid Noid shouldn't be trying to assist in our moderating duties here at JD either.

We're on top of it.  Thanks.

- Matt
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 15, 2004, 04:38 AM
I haven't (yet)!   ;D  I've only been warned once so far by Philip, for correcting Greg(g)'s dumb ass one too many times...   ::)

Whoops. (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB2&Number=849265&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=152343&Search=true&where=&Name=1760&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post849265)  My bad.  That's probably gonna cost me another warning from Greg(g)'s bodyguard.   ::)

Hate it when that happens...   :P

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 15, 2004, 04:42 AM
Lock, unlock, lock, unlock. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/tongue.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: JediMAC on June 15, 2004, 04:50 AM
Just abusing my moderating powers and trying to get in the last word.  Something I learned from Greg(g).   :P

Actually, us mods don't even have to unlock it to reply to it...   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 15, 2004, 05:11 AM
Just thought you wanted to get your post count up to over 4900. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/tongue.gif)

Actually, us mods don't even have to unlock it to reply to it...   ;)

Work PC's suck at time's!  (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/angry.gif)

Just abusing my moderating powers and trying to get in the last word.  Something I learned from Greg(g).   :P

OK  (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/YaBBImages/wink.gif)

Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 15, 2004, 08:08 AM
You bastards. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum.. is it just me??
Post by: DSJ™ on June 15, 2004, 08:26 AM
You bastards. ::)

Sorry!  :P
Title: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 27, 2004, 01:47 AM
What the hell is going on? First they lose Josheee and then obi-robz? Why can't GNT go? >:(
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 27, 2004, 01:54 AM
Yeah...  GNT...

What else is there to say really...  The only people who can stand GNT are the other people that I can't stand...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 27, 2004, 01:56 AM
I think you scared 'em off over there!   :P


Yeah, bummer to see a couple of their top guys stepping down.  Wonder why, and I really wonder who's gonna be replacing them.  I shudder to think of it...  Maybe Philip asked them for their addresses and personal information again, like the big shakedown that happened at TFn last year, when Philip fired half their mods for not giving him their personal, private contact info.


Well, should be interesting anyway...


Hopefully Josh and Rob will stop by JD a little more often now.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2004, 02:39 AM
Weird, but purging the forums there has happened before... 

I could think of a list of people Scum wuld give the mod-nod to given their track record.  Gen. Windu and "Peep Admiral/Yoda Boi" come to mind as people who've had a precedent set for their becoming a mod.

Josh was probably their most active mod there...  I'd imagine they'll attempt a replacement soon.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 27, 2004, 03:44 AM
GNT is the most active mod. In a negative way of course. ::)

Asking for personal information is such a fu$%ed up thing to do.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 27, 2004, 03:55 AM
...is such a fu$%ed up thing to do.

Ya' know, you can say that here.  People will see the word, or not, depending on whether they've got their language filter in their profile turned on or off...   ;)

I wouldn't say that asking for personal info is ****** up...  But demanding it sure is.  And then firing those who won't provide it really is!

So, you gonna apply for the mod spot Vader?  You know you want to!  I just wonder what Greg(g) would do if you got it...   :P
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jkno on August 27, 2004, 04:23 AM
Weird, but purging the forums there has happened before... 

I could think of a list of people Scum wuld give the mod-nod to given their track record.  Gen. Windu and "Peep Admiral/Yoda Boi" come to mind as people who've had a precedent set for their becoming a mod.

Josh was probably their most active mod there...  I'd imagine they'll attempt a replacement soon.

JoshEEE was a good mod. RS needs something to happen there, GNT is tooooo much...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: MetalJedi on August 27, 2004, 05:53 AM
GNT is tooooo much...

You can say that again. And its been like that for too long. Thats why I hardly post over there.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 27, 2004, 07:19 AM
JD is where it's at.

I gave up on 'scum a long time ago.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on August 27, 2004, 10:46 AM
There mere fact that everyone of oyu dwell on GNt gives him satisfaction. I'm sure he lurkes here and everwhere else. stop mentioning him ignore him and he will go away.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Holographic Elvis on August 27, 2004, 02:21 PM
There mere fact that everyone of oyu dwell on GNt gives him satisfaction. I'm sure he lurkes here and everwhere else. stop mentioning him ignore him and he will go away.

That never works.  They never go away.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 27, 2004, 02:51 PM
There mere fact that everyone of oyu dwell on GNt gives him satisfaction.

I doubt it, Gary.  Some of us drive him inveritably insane, believe me.  Don't think he was too pleased about having his picture posted all over the net last year.  No satisfaction for him there, that's for sure...  He's still bitching and moaning about that.  As far as all of us "dwelling" on him, well, that's a bit overboard dontchya' think?  He's certainly an interesting and entertaining topic to discuss from time to time.  No harm in that...

Quote
I'm sure he lurkes here and everwhere else.

He most definitely does.  He often throws a **** fit over stuff posted here.

Quote
stop mentioning him ignore him and he will go away.

Fat chance.  He wouldn't go away in a million years.  Under any circumstances...  Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 27, 2004, 03:25 PM
He needs to find a sexual partner. Other than his hand of course... ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: SilverZ on August 27, 2004, 04:13 PM

Fat chance.  He wouldn't go away in a million years.  Under any circumstances...  Unfortunately.

If the world is ever ravaged by nuclear war, two things will survive:

The cockroaches and GNT.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Bob Crane on August 27, 2004, 04:29 PM
He needs to find a sexual partner. Other than his hand of course... ::)

 Hey, don't knock masturbation. GNT's a knob, but for many other reasons, none of which are his vaseline antics.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: IndianaVader on August 27, 2004, 04:40 PM
Holy cow!  I didn't notice this.  JoshEEE even has the Emperor rank... I've never seen on in person. :P

_Max
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 27, 2004, 05:17 PM
I get it in another 180 posts or so... :P
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on August 27, 2004, 05:19 PM
So it'll be the Josho-Zodgarian Empire?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on August 27, 2004, 05:45 PM
I say "Meh" to the whole thing, but I shudder since I have a feeling who will become the new mods. Durge...... General Windu........ Mushimarumushu...........

Utter crap. Durge and GNT would probably try and ban each other though, which could make for some interesting posts. ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 27, 2004, 05:52 PM
I say "Meh" to the whole thing, but I shudder since I have a feeling who will become the new mods. Durge...... General Windu........ Mushimarumushu...........

Durge and GNT would probably try and ban each other
No, that doesn’t work. I know because I tried to ban Josh several times, but to no avail :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 27, 2004, 05:54 PM
Why did you leave Rob?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on August 27, 2004, 05:56 PM
GNT go away?

I believe that's what some would call a "Turd that won't flush".  :)

Ultimately, some names listed are likely in the running for mod-nod, honestly.  Durge too I'd think.  They keep letting him back so they obviously like him to some extent...  I dunno if Philip likes him personally or what...  He gets back in though, and we all know Scum's not keen on letting banned folks back in routinely.

There's a reason there...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 27, 2004, 06:04 PM
Why did you leave Rob?

Unfortunately I can’t say because it could get a couple of people (including myself) in trouble and I’d still like to be able to post there occasionally :)

I left on good terms with the Admins, but I would have actually preferred to have stayed in the job.  I wasn’t forced out, but under the circumstances (which I can’t talk about ;)) I just felt I had to give it up.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Snively Bandar on August 27, 2004, 07:18 PM
What the hell's Rebelscum?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: BobaShek on August 27, 2004, 10:17 PM
Sarcastic or not, that's the funniest thing I've read all day. ;D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on August 28, 2004, 12:09 AM
And GNT locked the thread about Robz...  Kinda funny unto itself.   :D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Scott on August 28, 2004, 12:11 AM
I wish both of the guys luck in their return to private life...

Illigitimum Non Carborundum
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on August 28, 2004, 12:49 AM
Matt,
Trite and oportunisitc people are a  lot like termites once the woods dead the throw up all over themselves and make a big mess for the rest of the colony.

Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 28, 2004, 06:23 AM
And GNT locked the thread about Robz...  Kinda funny unto itself.   :D

True, but I probably would have locked it too  ;)....very rarely have I seen a thread go so OT.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 30, 2004, 01:10 PM
****.

Holy ****! We can say it!  :o

Why wasn't I aware of this? When did it happen?

Now I can finally say **** Rebelscum!
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 30, 2004, 04:53 PM
You can even say Gregg is a *****.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Scott on August 30, 2004, 04:59 PM
The latest forum upgrade (3 weeks ago) allow the language filter to be turned on and off
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 30, 2004, 05:29 PM
That is sweet! I mean, in the long run its not really important, but having the option makes me giddy like a schoolgirl!

Are we the only SW forum of JD, GH and RS that's doing this?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2004, 05:38 PM
Are we the only SW forum of JD, GH and RS that's doing this?

Most definitely.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 30, 2004, 05:39 PM
Well...I liked JoshEEE and Obi Robz better as regular members.

I liked Gasgano Never Talked as a regular member too.

And I'll be damned if they turn Lady Jaye and Kneel Before Zod into squares like the rest of them.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 05:40 PM
Who, me?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 30, 2004, 05:43 PM
Who, me?

Yes. If they can Reform the worst of the post padders...I fear the day you accept a Moderator position.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 05:56 PM
If they make me a mod, I'll try cleaning that place up.  I'm your best friend as far as that stuff goes - imagine if they make General Windu or Mushamisishsa a mod instead.  It might be an impossible task but who knows...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on August 30, 2004, 06:14 PM
Zod's signature reminded me of this:

Why couldn't they have gotten rid of Darth Bryan?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2004, 06:23 PM
If they make me a mod, I'll try cleaning that place up.

You doin' a 180 on us now Rob?  You said over at RS last week there was no way you'd be applying...   ???

So, you and Durge, filling in for Josh and Rob?  Hmmm...   :P
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2004, 06:23 PM
You can even say Gregg is a *****.

We'd rather not state the obvious though...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 06:26 PM
Well, I'm not going ao apply, but when I saw the far less exciting names that were being thrown around and a bunch of people thought I should do it, I decided I'd better withdraw my earlier statements and take it if offered.  It won't change my love of the JD one bit though. 

Now if only I could get the power to un-ban people...   8)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 30, 2004, 06:30 PM
Ooh, I got into trouble for saying things like I’m going to un-ban certain JD members :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 30, 2004, 06:37 PM
There really are no good candidates for moderator at rebel scum. Zod would probably be the best choice, but I cannot think of anyone else who would be a good moderator. Some of the people asking for the job are pathetic. Killer185 ::), YodaBoi ::), General Windu ::). God help you all.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob L on August 30, 2004, 06:41 PM
Best choice would be Zod or failing that, myself or Josh.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 07:51 PM
Ooh, I got into trouble for saying things like I’m going to un-ban certain JD members :)

Well, techinically I didn't say I would un-ban anyone.   8)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 30, 2004, 08:00 PM
Darth Vader is right....

The other people trying to weasel their way in are rather unsatisfying....If they do get it, I'm sorr to say that JediDefender will be seeing a lot more of me.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on August 30, 2004, 08:11 PM
The other people trying to weasel their way in are rather unsatisfying....If they do get it, I'm sorr to say that JediDefender will be seeing a lot more of me.

and i think i speak for everyone involved when i say i'm sorry to hear that.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on August 30, 2004, 08:35 PM
Okay, so I've been extremely busy latley...is Zod a mod now?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 08:45 PM
I am not.  But several people are floating my name around it would seem...  The options are getting pretty limited over there...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 30, 2004, 08:56 PM
The thing about RS is that most of the posters these days are immature kids. JD is better in the sense that most of the regulars in the community are adults. Immature adults, but adults nonetheless. ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 30, 2004, 09:21 PM
The thing about RS is that most of the posters these days are immature kids. JD is better in the sense that most of the regulars in the community are adults. Immature adults, but adults nonetheless. ;)

Good point...Maybe I'll just leave the internet until I'm 30 then. :-*
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on August 30, 2004, 09:38 PM
I'm only 14...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 09:41 PM
That's enough to make me feel old as hell - and I'm just about to turn 24.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Bob Crane on August 30, 2004, 09:56 PM
I am not.  But several people are floating my name around it would seem...  The options are getting pretty limited over there...

Don't do it, man... for Godsakes- DON'T DO IT.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Rob on August 30, 2004, 10:06 PM
Why not?  The reason I'm considering it is because if I don't, they'll end up with some chode like General Windu...  What would be the negatives? 

But again, no one's offered me anything and I'm non-committal at best right now...  I really haven't given it any thought until today...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on August 30, 2004, 10:26 PM
That's enough to make me feel old as hell - and I'm just about to turn 24.

but you're still a youngin' compared with a lot of these old jd guys here.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 30, 2004, 10:33 PM
Why not?  The reason I'm considering it is because if I don't, they'll end up with some chode like General Windu...  What would be the negatives? 

But again, no one's offered me anything and I'm non-committal at best right now...  I really haven't given it any thought until today...


General Windu has no chance. A hair on my ass has more intelligence and common sense than him. If he really is 18... boy do I feel bad for his parents.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on August 30, 2004, 10:52 PM
What would be the negatives?

I dunno...  Maybe you should ask Josh or Rob that.   ;)

Of course, one negative that immediately comes to mind, would be the wonderful opportunity of working with God The Master Greg(g) GNT.

Thoughts?


P.S.  I didn't mean doin' a 180 on us here at JD, Rob.  I just meant that regarding your comments over at RS in general, was all...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jjks on August 30, 2004, 11:35 PM
I would so make a great mod over there...or Homeschooled I suppose...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Revenge on August 31, 2004, 12:16 AM
What would be the negatives? 


There are not many small negatives, it's more like one big one. You would have to work with one of the biggest morons on and off the internet.

I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

If you liked this post, please check out:

My Moronic Post in the Saga Section (http://www.yoururl.com)
My Moronic Post in the OTC Section (http://www.yoururl.com)
My Moronic Post in the POTF2 Section (http://www.yoururl.com)


Thoughts?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 31, 2004, 03:40 AM
My thought would be that all 3 of those links are no good. Awesome!
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: CorranHorn on August 31, 2004, 05:04 AM
What would be the negatives? 


There are not many small negatives, it's more like one big one. You would have to work with one of the biggest morons on and off the internet.

I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

If you liked this post, please check out:

My Moronic Post in the Saga Section (http://www.yoururl.com)
My Moronic Post in the OTC Section (http://www.yoururl.com)
My Moronic Post in the POTF2 Section (http://www.yoururl.com)


Thoughts?

Thoughts....

1.) See AE's thoughts
2.) You seem more overly obsessed with scum's antics than anyone else
3.) You seem more overly obsessed with GNT's antics than anyone else
4.) As such, #2 and #3 make you sound like one of GNT's close personal "friends" from scum. Hmmm I wonder who that could be, could it be.... Satan! Nah that's not it, Satan know's how to work links.
5.) Being able to swear without worrying that the kiddies will go crying to mommy and daddy...... ******* priceless!
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Force Guy on August 31, 2004, 11:06 AM
More GNT bashing.  How surprising.  Not that I would invite GNT over for dinner or anything, but really, hasn't the whole GNT-bashing trend evolved into an obssession?  I know it's "cool" to bash GNT over here at Jedi Basher Jedi Defender, but seriously, isn't it getting old? 
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jeff on August 31, 2004, 12:15 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

I'm not sure what "level" you are putting him on that is "pathetic"...  :-\

Would that "pathetic level" be Star Wars Fansite Forum Moderator or Uber-Post-Padder at a Star Wars Fansite?  Or neither?  At least there is a tiny bit of respect for most Fansite Forum Moderators, unlike Uber-Post-Padders at Fansites.   Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 31, 2004, 02:26 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

 Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.

Jeff

Hey...Watch it buddy. 8)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Angry Ewok on August 31, 2004, 03:42 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.
Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.
Jeff
Hey...Watch it buddy. 8)

No worries, Jediknigbhjei14123423, I think Jeff was, in a subliminal sort of way, saying that "Darth Vader" is a hipocrite to ever speak poorly of GNT's posting habbits. That's just what I think, I could be wrong.  ???

More GNT bashing. How surprising. Not that I would invite GNT over for dinner or anything, but really, hasn't the whole GNT-bashing trend evolved into an obssession? I know it's "cool" to bash GNT over here at Jedi Basher Jedi Defender, but seriously, isn't it getting old?

Yes, it is very old.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on August 31, 2004, 04:54 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.
Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.
Jeff
Hey...Watch it buddy. 8)

No worries, Jediknigbhjei14123423, I think Jeff was, in a subliminal sort of way, saying that "Darth Vader" is a hipocrite to ever speak poorly of GNT's posting habbits. That's just what I think, I could be wrong.  ???

More GNT bashing. How surprising. Not that I would invite GNT over for dinner or anything, but really, hasn't the whole GNT-bashing trend evolved into an obssession? I know it's "cool" to bash GNT over here at Jedi Basher Jedi Defender, but seriously, isn't it getting old?

Yes, it is very old.

Oh. *SHAME*

Nice to see you again AE. :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Scott on August 31, 2004, 05:02 PM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.
Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.
Jeff
Hey...Watch it buddy. 8)

No worries, Jediknigbhjei14123423, I think Jeff was, in a subliminal sort of way, saying that "Darth Vader" is a hipocrite to ever speak poorly of GNT's posting habbits. That's just what I think, I could be wrong.  ???

More GNT bashing. How surprising. Not that I would invite GNT over for dinner or anything, but really, hasn't the whole GNT-bashing trend evolved into an obssession? I know it's "cool" to bash GNT over here at Jedi Basher Jedi Defender, but seriously, isn't it getting old?

Yes, it is very old.

Oh. *SHAME*

Nice to see you again AE. :)
AE makes Yub Yub sound like a battle cry
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on August 31, 2004, 05:08 PM
Yeah, it's old to an extent...  Warranted...  Sorta fun still.  Old though.  I think it's more that people here have their reasons to KNOW he's viewing it, and that's why it continues more than anything else.

God knows you can't call him a ******bag at Scum when he does something you dn't like.  You can't even have a voice to constructively criticize really.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: CorranHorn on September 1, 2004, 12:33 AM
I'm not saying you would always be directly working hand in hand, but just being on the same pathetic level as that guy is degrading.

I'm not sure what "level" you are putting him on that is "pathetic"...  :-\

Would that "pathetic level" be Star Wars Fansite Forum Moderator or Uber-Post-Padder at a Star Wars Fansite?  Or neither?  At least there is a tiny bit of respect for most Fansite Forum Moderators, unlike Uber-Post-Padders at Fansites.   Those Uber-Post-Padders at Scum are pretty pathetic IMHO.

Jeff

I think the pathetic level comes from his more times than not holier than thou attitude where he thinks he knows what he is talking about but when he is shown to be wrong he doesn't change his tune.

Then again the pathetic level could be all about one person trying to be someone else and bashing on people he claims not to know.
Title: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Revenge on September 6, 2004, 10:27 PM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=307006&page=215&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#307006

Quote
I would like to honor GNT as well. But I would prefer to give him my own award of distinction:

Most Improved Poster

For anyone who's followed my history over the past year with Mr. Emperor GNT, you'll know that this is a most surprising bit of adulation on my part, as I have often been quick to jump on him for many of his previously well documented one-liners followed by the obligatory  . GNT might even suggest that I've been his arch nemesis around the boards over the past year. In fact, that's my quote about him being a Computer Posting Program that he's got in his signature line there! 

But I would like to point out that over the past 2-3 months, I have seen a significant improvement in the overall quality of GNT's posts. Far fewer pointless one-liners and smiley faces, and much better, longer, more thought out and helpful posts that contribute to, rather than annoy, the whole of the community. I don't know if this has been a conscious effort on GNT's part, but it certainly shows. Not to mention his always excellent checklists and knack at breaking the vast majority of news scoops here on the boards.

I think I'm even starting to see some of his real personality coming through in a few of his recent posts. Heck, I've even seen him talking $h!t to several other members of late. And trying to run over his own grandmother with a car?! Now just try to tell me that this cat isn't starting to let go of the reigns just a little here... 

So kudos to The Emperor for turning things around so drastically of late! Well done.

In closing:
GNT's first 12,500 posts... 
GNT's last 1,000+ posts... 

Keep it up GNT, I'm diggin' it...




Good lord. Why the hell did you praise GNT? :o
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Rob on September 6, 2004, 10:40 PM
Well, JediMac gave GNT's first 12,500 posts a  >:( 

And his 'last' 1,000 posts a  ;D

I wonder what he would give him for the 16,000 posts since.
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: jokabofe on September 6, 2004, 10:44 PM
wtf? dude, that post is like almost 2 years old. nothing better to do with your free time than dig through the archives at rebelscum?
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Revenge on September 6, 2004, 10:46 PM
wtf? dude, that post is like almost 2 years old. nothing better to do with your free time than dig through the archives at rebelscum?


Nope. :'(  Actually it's only because of labor day.

2 years old or not, he still said it. I hope he comes to the thread and officially takes it back.
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: JediMAC on September 6, 2004, 11:24 PM
Good Lord.  Great stuff there Steven.  Ya' dumb jackass...   ::)

Considering Greg(g)'s first 12,500 posts were nothing but one word and a smiley face, he started improving dramatically shortly thereafter.  He added a lot more content (and news) into his posts, so yes, he was greatly improved, and not a complete waste of forum posting space anymore, IMO.  He still posts 100x better than he did in his earlier days.  If you had been around back then, you would likely know that.

BUT, the reason I don't care for GNT now, is because of his 'Holier than thou', "I am God", arrogant attitude, as if he's the greatest **** in the history of Star Wars forums, which couldn't be any further from the truth.

So my gripe with him used to be based on quality, now it's just personal.  So, no, I'm not a fraud.

Careful, or you'll wind up on my ****list as well "Darth Vader".  Talk about frauds...   :-*
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: CorranHorn on September 7, 2004, 12:27 AM
Matt's somewhat right, sure he goes overboard with his modding ways, but GNT has settled down his post-padding ways and only talks out of his ass half the time now.  Not like other guys on scum. Darth Vader, yoU seem to have an enoRmous amount of disGust for evEryone's not-so favorite scum mod Greg(g). You should relax man, it's not like anyone has confused you for him, right....
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: jjks on September 7, 2004, 12:38 AM
I always knew that JediMAC guy was a tool...now i have the proof I've been craving

 >:(

And on that note, here's some toes
(http://www.batmo.com/pix/toes.jpg)
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Rob on September 7, 2004, 01:00 AM
DURGE

Well done.
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Angry Ewok on September 7, 2004, 01:07 AM
Careful, or you'll wind up on my ****list as well "Darth Vader".  Talk about frauds...   :-*

Oh that was good!

Durge Darth Vader, no matter how many name changes you go through, you'll never be able to hide that unhealthy obsession you've got with Greg(g). Pitiful.

Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Revenge on September 7, 2004, 01:10 AM
Good Lord.  Great stuff there Steven.  Ya' dumb jackass...   ::)

Considering Greg(g)'s first 12,500 posts were nothing but one word and a smiley face, he started improving dramatically shortly thereafter.  He added a lot more content (and news) into his posts, so yes, he was greatly improved, and not a complete waste of forum posting space anymore, IMO.  He still posts 100x better than he did in his earlier days.  If you had been around back then, you would likely know that.

BUT, the reason I don't care for GNT now, is because of his 'Holier than thou', "I am God", arrogant attitude, as if he's the greatest **** in the history of Star Wars forums, which couldn't be any further from the truth.

So my gripe with him used to be based on quality, now it's just personal.  So, no, I'm not a fraud.

Careful, or you'll wind up on my ****list as well "Darth Vader".  Talk about frauds...   :-*


It was a joke. :'(
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: JediMAC on September 7, 2004, 02:26 AM
I always knew that JediMAC guy was a tool...now i have the proof I've been craving

 >:(

I thought my yakking all over the bathroom wall of Wildcats right in front of you was proof enough Jamie...  No?

Damn.  I'll try to do better next time then...   :-\


It was a joke. :'(

Ah.  I see.  Funny.  Kinda.  Well, not really...
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Vator on September 7, 2004, 10:20 AM
This was so worth the read!
Title: Re: JEDIMAC IS A FRAUD!
Post by: Scott on September 7, 2004, 11:30 AM
JediMAC has always had a soft spot for Greg(g), never could figure that one out.  And, I'm starting to agree with ForceGuy, the Greg(g) bashing is getting a little stale, so I'll lock this and please feel free to bump any of the other 20000 threads we have about him here.  Thanks :-*
Title: The Scum continues it's downward spiral...
Post by: jjks on October 12, 2004, 09:59 PM
Anyone else witnessing what's going on at Rebelscum right now? Whoever Christopher Reeve is has really taken over Wuhers, and General Windu is right behind with lame ass responses to EVERY single thread the dude has started.

Hates 'em I do!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 12, 2004, 10:02 PM
That post a new topic so you get the whole front page of Wuhers to your self is the lamest thing I've ever seen ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 12, 2004, 10:05 PM
Although, his topics seems to be a lot more "colorful"

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Famine on October 12, 2004, 10:06 PM
You see why I don't go there anymore?


NOW DO YA SEE?!

Kevin
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jjks on October 12, 2004, 10:09 PM
There are some very "colorful" topics posted that I never thought I'd see on a Star Wars message board!

People that post just to take up the entire page suck! Attention seekers!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 12, 2004, 10:13 PM
Someone needs to bump The Punky Brewster Appreciation Society Thread...stat!

Oh wait, Gregggggg locked that one :'(
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 12, 2004, 10:15 PM
No big suprises here.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 12, 2004, 10:16 PM
ya know what's funny, people are calling for a mod to stop this, when the first posts started happening i noticed an admin on their boards at the time. he obviously missed it, but where's GNT, doesn't he live there?
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Diddly on October 12, 2004, 10:18 PM
RS still exists?  ???
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 12, 2004, 10:35 PM
Ha.  Amusing.  I only got to pop in for a minute there before Phil and GNT finally showed up, so I didn't get to read through most of it all.  But I'm pretty sure I got the jist of it.

I remember one late night on RS several years back when just Dale (DSJ) and I were online and a guy just like this showed up, but who was FAR worse as far as the stuff he wrote.  He went off on Dale (and Dale's mom) something fierce.  Good times!  Remember D?   :P
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: General Grievous on October 12, 2004, 10:37 PM
Sad thing is that this can happen every day and it would take forever for someone to take charge.

They need more mods and they need to get rid of GNT. He is a waste of bandwidth with his 200000000000 posts. ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: DSJ™ on October 12, 2004, 10:46 PM
I remember one late night on RS several years back when just Dale (DSJ) and I were online and a guy just like this showed up, but who was FAR worse as far as the stuff he wrote.  He went off on Dale (and Dale's mom) something fierce.  Good times!  Remember D?   :P

How can I ever forget!   ::)  Best night of my life there, ahh, the memories!  ;D 

Troll's, why did it have to be Troll's!  (http://www.snowtroopers.ca/forum/YaBBImages/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Diddly on October 12, 2004, 10:53 PM
So I wonder what banned member that was.

And Durge PMed me while I was visiting the chaos...... They STILL don't know who my alter ego is, despite having Diddly Squat in my name and sig!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 12, 2004, 11:03 PM
So I wonder what banned member that was.

And Durge PMed me while I was visiting the chaos...... They STILL don't know who my alter ego is, despite having Diddly Squat in my name and sig!

Well that explains that, I saw the posts on scum and your subsequent post in this thread, but didn't want to out ya. don't worry about Durge, he's a moron anyways looking to find any chance to stick one to GNT.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Famine on October 12, 2004, 11:11 PM
Oh wait, Gregggggg locked that one :'(


Hahaha. When you said that, all I could think of is Puppet Kim Jon Il or whoever he is from Team America saying "Gregggggg...your busing my balls."


Classic man!

Kevin
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Ben on October 12, 2004, 11:45 PM
I just noticed this today... every news item Philip posts has something to do with merchandise.

Gee, I think he's getting some kind of kickback.



No wonder I got a C- in Economics.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: General Grievous on October 13, 2004, 12:03 AM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/images/luke_slideshow-1.gif) = $$$ for (http://www.wiseacres.com/pwoffice1.jpg)


 ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 13, 2004, 12:30 AM
Yeah.   I saw all that for about 2 seconds - then I went back to watching the Yankees game.

I'm all for a little excitement every now and then but that was pretty damn absurd - even for a troll.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 13, 2004, 01:53 AM
Yeah.   I saw all that for about 2 seconds - then I went back to watching the Yankees game.

I'm all for a little excitement every now and then but that was pretty damn absurd - even for a troll.

it was funny to watch while i wasted away at work. funny not for what he was doing, some of the **** he said was quite offensive actually, but what was funny was the reactions he was getting. some of it was priceless and some of it leads me to believe  that one of the people responding was the same guy
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 13, 2004, 03:24 AM
some of it leads me to believe  that one of the people responding was the same guy

But that would mean...

 :o
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 13, 2004, 10:29 AM
It was someone who was around long enough to remember the thread where Lionell Richie and Rob Zombie were doing a duet.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Xander on October 13, 2004, 10:45 AM
Yeah, I never know what's going on there.  Why people hate certain people, who's coming back to flood, why certain people are mods and others aren't...
Too much drama for me.  I already have a backlog of TV I need to catch up on, so the Rebelscum opera sits on the back burner.

Oh yeah, there's a lot more picture of Philip in the waybackmachine (http://www.archive.org/).  Search engine seems to be down at the moment.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JoshEEE on October 13, 2004, 02:43 PM
This is far from the first time something like that has happened over there.

They just don't have enough mods to catch it anymore.  ;)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Diddly on October 13, 2004, 05:37 PM
It was someone who was around long enough to remember the thread where Lionell Richie and Rob Zombie were doing a duet.

In that case, I would blame it all on Virex.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 13, 2004, 06:36 PM
but virex died.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 13, 2004, 08:11 PM
A virex haunting? 
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 13, 2004, 09:03 PM
Actually, I was thinking it was some knucklehead who goes by the name of General Windu. He tends to make an ass of himself over there and he just so happened to be replying to almost every thread this spammer was creating/posting in within seconds of the spammer's post.

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jjks on October 13, 2004, 09:05 PM
I was thinking the same thing about the good General, but then again I already can't stand the kid and am sooo glad he's not over here.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 15, 2004, 12:13 AM
What the hell happened there over the summer?
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Jesse James on October 15, 2004, 12:17 AM
Only one season being blamed for a spiral that rivals that of a flushing toilet? :)  I think that's lenient.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 15, 2004, 12:23 AM
For old time's sake, let's pull out that old GNT photo. What do you say, fellas? :D
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: General Grievous on October 15, 2004, 02:41 AM
This one:

http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg

 ???
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Xander on October 15, 2004, 07:18 AM
Guys, sometimes I have hard time sorting out myth from reality in these forums.
Is that the REAL GNT?  :o
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 15, 2004, 09:19 AM
Is that the REAL GNT?  :o

I believe this is how the story goes...

According to Gregg (God/GNT), that is not him, but his cousin Greg (who also calls himself God).

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 15, 2004, 09:20 AM
That is Greg(g) 100% positive its him...why threaten to sue me if it wasn't?  And now that his secret identity was exposed I'm wondering what he's been doing with his life
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 15, 2004, 09:25 AM
They both go by the nickname of The Master, too. I forgot that.


"I'm God, so live with it."[/size]-Greg(g), GNT
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-04/GNTSistine.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 15, 2004, 11:06 AM
That is Greg(g) 100% positive its him...why threaten to sue me if it wasn't?  And now that his secret identity was exposed I'm wondering what he's been doing with his life
Old Country Buffet, unless you live in Australia, Gregg can't touch you. He's banging kangaroos or something down under.  :-X
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on October 15, 2004, 12:36 PM
I just went over to the 'scum forums for the first time in a while...what a **** hole that place has turned into! One guy (the infamous General Windu) is bitching about the Dannik Jeriko figure and cursing out Hasbro over and over. what the hell is wrong with the Dannik figure? The worst thing is that he's not the exception over there.

Then you've got Gregg and his jackass useless comments every few posts. How long will it be until he is the only person posting on those forums?

Glad to have the JD forums.  8)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 15, 2004, 01:06 PM
This one:

http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/GNT.jpg

 ???

I'm still proud of this one:


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 15, 2004, 01:09 PM
You should be, its a work of art, high art
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: General Grievous on October 15, 2004, 01:54 PM
And now that his secret identity was exposed I'm wondering what he's been doing with his life


He stays in his basement day in - day out. You can see it for yourself. He sleeps from 10 AM (est) 'till 6 PM (est) then he posts from 6:01 PM 'till 9:59 AM (est).
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 15, 2004, 02:26 PM
That definitely was a brilliant piece of work there Rob.  One of my alltime favorites...   8)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 15, 2004, 02:52 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)


so wait, what's the history on this pic?
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Jeff on October 15, 2004, 02:55 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)


so wait, what's the history on this pic?

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=4895.0
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 15, 2004, 03:18 PM
ah, fantastic. i should hang around here more often.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 15, 2004, 06:33 PM
You should be, its a work of art, high art

it sure is, the first time i saw that pic, i found myself laughing so loud at the office, people from across the hall were checking to see if i was ok.

it sure was DelightfUl of the newest jd membeR Star Wars to draG that original picturE of gnt up. it's a historical pic for sure.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 15, 2004, 08:51 PM
I don’t know what you people are meaning by “going down the toilet”, RS has never been better… I only wish Albert would come back somehow- BTW anyone catch that thread about SLT that Durge started and was quickly erased all together? It was rather scandalous to say the least.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 15, 2004, 09:09 PM
SLT?

Share the Love?
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 15, 2004, 09:20 PM
SLT?

Share the Love?

He's referring to everyone's anxiety-laced vintage AFA figure collector SithLordToys. Got banned I believe from the Scum for going off on several people, then attempted on several occassions to come back into the scum vintage section with different nicknames, only to be outted everytime. He may have even stopped by here a time or two, though certainly not known around these parts for the kind of stuff he did on scum, that belongs to someone else.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 15, 2004, 09:42 PM
Yes, that’s correct- Sith Lord Toys, and you know, I can’t help but think that the incredibly caustic nature of RS only helped deteriorate Albert further, it's queer how most people pin-point Wuher’s as the root of evil there, I feel that the hallowed vintage section is by far the most distraught, RS would be a lot better off without half the bizarre personalities that hang in there- “tight knight community” my ass.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 15, 2004, 10:03 PM
it's queer how most people pin-point Wuher’s as the root of evil there, I feel that the hallowed vintage section is by far the most distraught, RS would be a lot better off without half the bizarre personalities that hang in there- “tight knight community” my ass.

Agreed.

I collect vintage, but I haven't gone near that forum more than once in almost 2 years.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 15, 2004, 10:30 PM
Damn, guess that should have been "knit" not "knight"  :-X

Ps. Yah, I especially enjoy it when boners make O.T. threads there and start them off as, “I suppose I could have posted this in Wuher’s, but those people are really just much too childish to give me a meaningful opinion…”- what-ev-rrrr! ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 15, 2004, 11:08 PM
While the vintage crew at RS can be caustic at times (I've certainly called them out on it several times), they are no way near as bad as the majority of the ****** morons that populate Wuhers. Assclowns there do nothing more than purposely make posts just to anger someone, cause a riot, or just grab attention for themselves. The majority of the people who post on Wuher's have nothing to contribute whatsoever not only to the threads in Wuher's or the collecting sections, but to life itself. That's why I stick solely to the Wrestling Trivia thread there cause I'm just owning people there, and do all my "OT" posting here on JD.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Sems Fir on October 15, 2004, 11:19 PM
Bob Crane wrote:

"it's queer how most people pin-point Wuher’s as the root of evil there, I feel that the hallowed vintage section is by far the most distraught, RS would be a lot better off without half the bizarre personalities that hang in there- “tight knight community” my ass."

SemsFir writes:

The readers that post in the vintage forum at RS can in a way be considered more cautious due to events that unfold from time to time in the vintage section (such as the Albert soap opera for example).  While you feel that a segment of the vintage community is made up of "bizarre personalities" the same can be stated for every public forum on the world wide web.  Is the vintage community tight - knit?  I'd have to answer yes.  While disagreements do happen amongst the vintage community, the vintage community watches out for each other (for example to help prevent fellow collectors from getting scammed), and when new information comes forward about a particular subject, knowledge is generally shared.  So, yes the vintage community is tight - knit.

Bob Crane wrote:

"those people are really just much too childish to give me a meaningful opinion"

SemsFir writes:

If you have a question about collecting Star Wars especially action figures and toys created by Kenner and Hasbro there are numerous knowledgeable collectors that post in the vintage forum section of RS, and in some cases their knowledge is very meaningful.  In certain situations I'd rather have a meaningful opinion from a knowledgeable collector of a particular subject, then fly blindly into the storm.  

Robert
www.behindthetoys.com (http://www.behindthetoys.com)
Lead Editor
BLACK S. U. N.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 15, 2004, 11:31 PM
Yah, yah... sure, sure.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 15, 2004, 11:38 PM
Well, 'Scums vintage forum can be a little intimidating to a lot of folks.  I tend to think the "inner circle" of guys (the TRG/Archive crowd) are definitely tight-knit and obviously the most knowledgeable in the world on the subject matter.  I think most of them are pretty good guys too.

But there's also a lot of other folks who collect the vintage line, but just on a more casual basis - like just the regular figures.  But their knowledge, and sometimes questions/thoughts, are rather elementary compared to the stuff the diehards get into.  So you've got two rather distinct subsets within the vintage realm, which really aren't meant to blend together so much.  It's like trying to merge an advanced calculus class full of students with a pre-algebra class.  Rather tricky.

I kinda think of the serious vintage guys as the Varsity team, while most of the rest of us more casual vintage collectors are on the freshman/sophmore team.  I'm sure if a freshman got stuck with the varsity guys, he might come off as rather annoying, untalented, incapable, uninformed, uncoached.  But hopefully with a little patience, the varsity guys can usually do some general coaching of the youngin' to get him into better vintage collecting shape.

Anyway, enough of the analogies.  There should just be two different vintage forums over there:  Basic Vintage ("Vintage for Dummies"), and Avid Vintage (the professionals).   ;)

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 15, 2004, 11:44 PM
Gotcha

You okeoke Abdyr inoarticykar do noot seem to adnit the don't know how long I have had some of then in my collectuion what I oaid fir
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 16, 2004, 12:04 AM
Even though I've got a half-decent vintage collection, I never posted a single time (that I can remember) in Rebelscum's Vintage boards... I was definately intimidated. I even keep my mouth shut in JD's Vintage board, for the most part.

 :-\
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 17, 2004, 05:39 AM
ah, fantastic. i should hang around here more often.
Same story here.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Deanpaul on October 21, 2004, 12:07 AM
I just went over to the 'scum forums for the first time in a while...what a **** hole that place has turned into! One guy (the infamous General Windu) is bitching about the Dannik Jeriko figure and cursing out Hasbro over and over. what the hell is wrong with the Dannik figure? The worst thing is that he's not the exception over there.

Then you've got Gregg and his jackass useless comments every few posts. How long will it be until he is the only person posting on those forums?

Glad to have the JD forums.  8)

This link takes you to a page that illustrates the futility of trying to follow/contribute at RS.

I found the part where other people snipe your letters while you work the most amusing. I quickly turned to the dark side of taking other peoples letters because it was sooooo much more fun. Actually laughed out loud while doing it for about 15 minutes, then left.

Just like RS. ;)

http://www.flashcomguru.com/apps/letters/
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 21, 2004, 12:40 AM
Speaking of the downward spiral...they're calling my name again for the Mod thing...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 21, 2004, 12:53 AM
I just went over to the 'scum forums for the first time in a while...what a **** hole that place has turned into! One guy (the infamous General Windu) is bitching about the Dannik Jeriko figure and cursing out Hasbro over and over. what the hell is wrong with the Dannik figure? The worst thing is that he's not the exception over there.

Then you've got Gregg and his jackass useless comments every few posts. How long will it be until he is the only person posting on those forums?

Glad to have the JD forums.  8)

This link takes you to a page that illustrates the futility of trying to follow/contribute at RS.

I found the part where other people snipe your letters while you work the most amusing. I quickly turned to the dark side of taking other peoples letters because it was sooooo much more fun. Actually laughed out loud while doing it for about 15 minutes, then left.

Just like RS. ;)

http://www.flashcomguru.com/apps/letters/


hahaha that site was fun to mess with, and its a great description of the futility of having an mature conversation at most parts of the scum

kbz: become a mod just so you can  ban all the other mods one nite and cause chaos by posting **** all over the place :)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 21, 2004, 01:03 AM
kbz: become a mod just so you can  ban all the other mods one nite and cause chaos by posting **** all over the place :)

Isn't that what already happens over there though, Jas?   :P


Just seems like the current mods over there haven't been paying much attention of late.  Place has gone to **** (even moreso than usual) since Josh and Rob stepped down...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 21, 2004, 01:17 AM
kbz: become a mod just so you can  ban all the other mods one nite and cause chaos by posting **** all over the place :)

Isn't that what already happens over there though, Jas?   :P

Just seems like the current mods over there haven't been paying much attention of late.  Place has gone to **** (even moreso than usual) since Josh and Rob stepped down...

Matt yeah exactly, but it happening from the inside is pure comedic gold dontcha think? :)

If as of late you mean the situation that started this thread with that cockknocker going all nutty on wuhers, i can see how that can get by the mods, they dont necessarily have to live there, though GNT surely once did. If its the other ****, like the whining, bitching, moaning, fighting, well that **** has been that way ever since the original BHC mods left when GH was formed, and nothing is ever going to change that.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 21, 2004, 10:24 AM
I'm kinda feeling like I should do it.  I've been over there for almost 3 years now - it might be time to chip in....  I'm at a computer during the day time and can at least keep an eye on things...  Besides, they're all calling my name... I'd love to be able to tell Rocket Fett that he's got to knock it off from a position of message board authority when he comes trolling every fourth or fifth month...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jjks on October 21, 2004, 11:44 AM
I think you should go for it Rob. There isn't anyone else over there right now that I think is worthy besides you, and Lord knows they need all the help they can get.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 21, 2004, 12:33 PM
Yeah - I'm thinking I'll give it a try...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 21, 2004, 12:38 PM
Good luck with that. It looks pretty thankless, but you should do a good job.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: stormie on October 21, 2004, 12:38 PM
I tend to think RS is much more entertaining without more moderators. It's kind of one big freak fest of spastic posting sometimes. It's quite funny to read, especially without a mod locking down threads or insulting people because he thinks they may post too much or whatever. It always seems like the moderators are above and beyond the most opinionated of all. Really, the only times I haven't enjoyed reading RS are when some of the mods (and ex-mods) have come into a thread and become serious and belligerent. Kind of like when "Dad" comes home from work in a foul mood--all the fun is over.  :P  
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 21, 2004, 01:57 PM
I'd love to be able to tell Rocket Fett that he's got to knock it off from a position of message board authority when he comes trolling every fourth or fifth month...

that alone would make it worth it.

you're gonna have to bite your metaphorical tounge quite a bit, though. be sure you wanna make the leap.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Bob Crane on October 21, 2004, 04:46 PM
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RS is... one big freak fest of spastic posting

I like that.  :)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Vote for Chewbacca the Wookiee on October 21, 2004, 11:49 PM
Go the distance, Rob! ;D
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 21, 2004, 11:56 PM
My personal opinion, I'd let the water continue to swirl around the bowl and wave bye-bye instead of jumping in and joining the rest of the ****, but that's just me ;)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: proudfather2 on October 22, 2004, 10:25 AM
My personal opinion, I'd let the water continue to swirl around the bowl and wave bye-bye instead of jumping in and joining the rest of the ****, but that's just me ;)

Ya see though OCB, the waters been swirling for so long now that I 've accepted the fact that it's one of those damn toilets that never really flushes all the way. You know what I mean? I think there's always gonna be just enough good over there to keep the whole thing from tanking. Speaking only for my self, I know I can't keep away, something keeps pulling me back in. Sure my posts are few and far between, but I always go back. It probably has a lot to do with the fact that I've been there since the great migration (I came over then), and have been witness to the spin-offs, mergers and all the other ****. Lord there's been lots of ****!

Again, speaking only for myself, I think KBZ should try to go clean RS up a bit. Couldn't hurt the place.

Hey! How come I can't say **** anymore? ??? Guess I need to haunt this place a bit more frequently.



Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jadesfire on October 22, 2004, 04:24 PM

Hey! How come I can't say **** anymore? ??? Guess I need to haunt this place a bit more frequently.

I think you have to turn your language filter to "on", or something like that. 

As for RS, I have no idea what goes on beyond props (which is a great section).  I pop in on other sections now and then (usually C3 and MI finds) so I didn't know there was a major meltdown.  Oh well, as long as the trolls leave the prop section alone - I'm happy.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Ben on October 22, 2004, 08:55 PM
I've seen a crazier/worse place than RS.

It's the Red Mosquito board. OCB/Scott might know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, there's always someplace worse is the point. Spastic posting can be fun, if not overdone.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 22, 2004, 11:01 PM
hahah so i just got asked by this one guy who ive was just basically arguing with in wuher's in the wrestling trivia thread if i could be a reference for him in his quest to become a mod. initially i thought no, i don't know you and i dont really care what the hell happens to the scum boards. but then i started thinking, ya know why not be a reference for him, if he became a mod he it would help lead towards the further deterioation of the scum. dilemmas, dilemmas, what do you all think i should do?  ::)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Diddly on October 23, 2004, 12:52 AM
I wonder if my alter ego could become a mod...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob L on October 23, 2004, 05:13 AM
I wonder if my alter ego could become a mod...

Probably ;D

My reference went to Rob.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 23, 2004, 10:31 AM
Scum definitely isn't the worst board ever. You guys should check out some of the music boards out there. The friendliest board is the HELLBLAZER comic forum. It's badass and other than arguments about how sucky the "Constantine" film will be (starring Canoe Reams), there's hardly a harsh word ever spoken.

Scum's problem is letting children and neanderthals post frequently. It's the same problem with any board really that caters to children. I think message boards should decide who their target audience is and toe the line. Some kids are mature enough to handle posting in an adult forum, but the majority of them just aren't.

If you want a forum predominantly inhabited by children, then you must expect the kind of drama you get at Scum.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 23, 2004, 02:27 PM
ok, i see the points that most of you are making about RS (and wuher's mainly), but isn't it a bit, i dunno, redundant to have an entire thread here complaining about it? i know some people here have stopped posting there (some by choice, some not), but the majority of people here are still regular over at RS. isn't the constant sarcasm and satire most of us dish out over there enough? i don't get the point of complaining about it at an entirely seperate forum that seems to exist solely as a refuge for part time defectors from RS because it has a good-sized population of halfwitted kids with overused keyboards. i still hang around there because i think there are still some worthwhile things going on from time to time. i think wuher's has lost a lot of charm; i've done my part to try to make things interesting over there, but i'm about done with all that. it's not worth the time to me. regardless, i still take part in some discussions that i think are interesting enough to warrant returning. and i know a lot of you here do, as well.
 
if you want to complain about how bad it's gotten there, why not try to start something interesting there? start some threads to make it what you want it to be. otherwise, why complain about it while still participating? i guess i just think complaining about forum boards (particularly star wars toy collecting open topic forums) is pretty silly, especially if you're doing it in ANOTHER star wars toy collecting open topic forum. maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: stormtripper on October 23, 2004, 03:22 PM
I was happy in my Internet bubble for about a year before I even realized that there were forums and discussions going on and sales and trades etc. I still can't say how I stumbled upon the forums in the first place. I don't really come from a strong computer background! I have been using the same used computer that I bought 5 years ago off my wife's friend. Anyway R S was really good to me, I made tons of trades, bought and sold toys without a hitch for well over a year. Then everything started to unravel, the mods were becoming "the police", I had 3 - 4 trades go to the ***** because of deadbeat traders and sellers. I called the mods nazi's, in the sense of their world police, militant rules etc. I was then schooled about the nazi holocahast and booted off the boards for a week or 2, they even wanted me to watch shindlers list as part of my "rehab" ;D Can you believe that? What a f'n joke. R S has gone down hill so fast it should consider entering the giant slalom at the next winter Olympics. I still check it once in a while to see what news they have “borrowed” off other sites as well as make some trades.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Jesse James on October 23, 2004, 04:32 PM
I didn't know you'd pulled the Nazi card and gotten banned too Tripper.

That's kinda funny...  There is over-sensitivity there on many issues, by a vast majority of people.  Tack onto that all the liars, all the completely arrogant people, all the "kids" (not all kids are bad, but the "kids" are guys like Gen Windu, yodaboi, etc. who are considered above and beyond annoying), and all the condescending attitudes.

There's a lotta Comic-Book-Guy syndromes over there...  Especially towards new people (old or young) and it transcends sections of that site.  Vintage has them, Modern areas have them, the film sections have them, and Wuhers has them by the truckload.

Also, there's guys there that simply aren't respectable...  The kind that fight just to fight, argue a point when they're wrong (Some even being proven they were arguing the opposite way in other threads), and won't back down at all...  These are people that simply like hearing themselves talk, and making sure everyone else has eyes on them.  Little attention from their parents, so they crave it on internet forums.

Then there's the political BS...  There's still guys there that think making a point politically is what every post should be about, even when against the rules of the site...  It's one of the few rules Scum tries hard to enforce.

I mean, there's names there that really should've been banned LONG ago, even when it was a half-decent forum, but they still are trolling around...  Some of them are people let back in that were rightfully kicked out in the first place even. 

Yet someone makes a Nazi "joke" because of the over-policing on some issues, and that whole site is up in arms on it.  I'll never get that way of running things.  That's what doesn't make sense, and I think it's the reason for the downhill days.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 23, 2004, 08:28 PM
Also, there's guys there that simply aren't respectable...  The kind that fight just to fight, argue a point when they're wrong (Some even being proven they were arguing the opposite way in other threads), and won't back down at all...  These are people that simply like hearing themselves talk, and making sure everyone else has eyes on them.  Little attention from their parents, so they crave it on internet forums.

Jesse, I think I know who you might be talking about. Hmmm. Anyway.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Famine on October 23, 2004, 09:09 PM
 ;D

I'd go there and sign up again, get as much info about nazi's as I could, and then when they try and hit me with how I don't know what a nazi is, BLAST THEM with my knowledge.

Kevin
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: CorranHorn on October 24, 2004, 02:34 AM
Also, there's guys there that simply aren't respectable...  The kind that fight just to fight, argue a point when they're wrong (Some even being proven they were arguing the opposite way in other threads), and won't back down at all...  These are people that simply like hearing themselves talk, and making sure everyone else has eyes on them.  Little attention from their parents, so they crave it on internet forums.

Jesse, I think I know who you might be talking about. Hmmm. Anyway.

Gimmick Infringement!!!!!!  ;D

Carpeteria: As a response to your last post, I think why most people here are complaining about scum has to do with how those board for the most part have been raped and pillaged from what we knew when it was the BHC. The diluted, watered down, annoying bull**** that goes on there is bothersome. It's hard to find decent conversations there that does not end with some assclown either making a spectacle of themselves or bitching out someone else for disagreeing with them. Plus it's all not about complaining here, we're also entertained by the hypocrisy that goes down there. People who are the worst of the worst, being welcomed back with open arms and literally treated like gods, people claiming they 're "smart" and when proven wrong, huddle in their little corner only to pop back up later on espousing their superior knowledge as if nothing happened. It's some funny stuff there sometimes.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: C on October 24, 2004, 01:31 PM
Carpeteria: As a response to your last post, I think why most people here are complaining about scum has to do with how those board for the most part have been raped and pillaged from what we knew when it was the BHC. The diluted, watered down, annoying bull**** that goes on there is bothersome. It's hard to find decent conversations there that does not end with some assclown either making a spectacle of themselves or bitching out someone else for disagreeing with them. Plus it's all not about complaining here, we're also entertained by the hypocrisy that goes down there. People who are the worst of the worst, being welcomed back with open arms and literally treated like gods, people claiming they 're "smart" and when proven wrong, huddle in their little corner only to pop back up later on espousing their superior knowledge as if nothing happened. It's some funny stuff there sometimes.

no, i totally understand. i see it just as much as everyone else here. i just think that coming here and even discussing blatant hypocrisy seems a little odd. it seems obvious that even those who don't post over there still lurk and read up on all the drama. i just think it's better to choose from either trying to make an effort over there to change things (which i weakly did myself for awhile), just leaving it behind, or just coming to terms with whatever bull**** is going on there and participating when wanted. that's about where i am - i'll throw in the occasional sarcasm where i think it might be needed, but otherwise, i'll just be there to be there. otherwise it seems redundant to come here and say "RS is falling apart as we speak" - of course it is. isn't that why most people here are posting at JD instead? it's like going to a metallica is the best band ever forum and starting a thread called "metallica is the best band ever."

at least to me.

i'm cool with everyone here, but it seems like there is a lot of unchecked bitterness about RS sifting around.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: SPIDERLEGS on October 25, 2004, 02:05 PM
A bunch of us were pissed when they shut down the political thread. I really thought that was unnecessary.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 25, 2004, 02:21 PM
I think the reason bitch about RS here is because they can do so without fear of godlike people zapping them into the great beyond.  I think RS bashing is old though, I quit posting there because its not worth the effort, most of the people I like post here and I want to make an effort to make JD the premier site on the web.

The fact they ban people left and right and there are more kids than adults there is enough for me to turn my back and not look back.  I still read when I can and I cruise the trade boards but to me the BHC died a long time ago and while I still love GH it still pales in comparison to what was.  An large group of adults with a common interest.  When Mike combined with RS and then left again it fractured the community too much and its still sorting itself out.   Why people stayed with RS is a head scratcher, they were helped by the April 23rd surge of 2002 but I would think the lack of community would have driven people away

The most ironic thing of the whole situation to me is that Phil Wise thinks he built the RS boards from the ground up and the traffic and the membership is all his doing.  He seems to forget what he had before Mike gave him the BHC.  I give them credit for keeping interest high, but I also know for a FACT that membership and posting has eroded severely over the last year (swirl baby swirl!)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: HWR on October 28, 2004, 11:21 AM
I thibk you're very rigt about that Scott. I too miss the days of BHC.

Things have actually become better in the vintage section resently, and people trade newcommers more friendly. Sure there are stll some jackasses thre, but also friendly  and helpfull people such as eg. Chris Georgoulias and Michael Mensinger to mention a few.

The vintage trading and vintage clasified sectors are also great and free of hostility.

So all in all RS isn't so bad as some of you guys make it, well exept for Wuhers that is. I don't post in Wuhers anymore exept for the Wrestling and Wrestling  Trivia threads, now that they are sending WWE on tv here in Denmark again.
 
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JoshEEE on October 28, 2004, 03:27 PM
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Why people stayed with RS is a head scratcher, they were helped by the April 23rd surge of 2002 but I would think the lack of community would have driven people away

A community aspect is definitely nice. I do like dropping by here where there's only a handful of active posters and everyone knows everyone else. It's definitely the model for what a community SHOULD be in a perfect world. But it's also probably only a tenth of the size of RS or the bigger sites, and that's why it doesn't have the problems they have.

If someone shows up here and being a jackass....there are like 8 active mods to that one guy who will pounce on him and squelch the problem before it becomes one.  If RS had the same level of moderation, they'd be in the same boat. But the moderators aren't as plentiful, and the decisions about who to ban and who to let continue to wreak havoc are not always their own.


For me, it's the collecting aspect of Rebelscum and the traffic it gets that helps to make it the best collecting site on the web. Find me another site where I can get more responses to a classifed ad, get more local collectors from my area doing store reports and find more answers to my questions faster and I'll gladly go there instead. The local collectors in my area all hang out there or at GH....and that's how I get in touch with them. And none of them are affected by the Wuher's drama or any site policies. Most of them ONLY post to let others know what's at the local Target.

GH is kind of close as far as that whole thing goes, but it's the only one that's even a contender as far as Star Wars collecting is concerned. I find it to be a mirror of RS, so I just stick with RS.

Why go there for chat? Eh....no reason. The chat stuff is just an offshoot of me being there all the time. I'll see (and reply to) a topic in Wuher's because I'm over there checking out my local "Look what I found" thread.

Sure, there are a lot of kids there....and a lot of bickering back and forth, but that's because it's one of the first places people check for Star Wars stuff. TFN refers people there.....and as a Star Wars newbie, that's where you head.

Scum isn't in a "Downward spiral" as this thread title might imply. It's just business as usual in a non-movie year. They could use more moderators. They should empower those moderators to take care of the people that drag the site down, but ultimately, there's still not another collecting site on the web that can touch it as far as what it offers, so that's why I keep going back.

Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Scott on October 28, 2004, 03:40 PM
Again Josh, I have hard core numbers to say that posting at Rebelscum is down big time over the last year (30-40%).  A similar drop off has not occurred at any other site, in fact most show gains.

As far as their news...what was the last major story they broke?  I see their news page as nothing more than posting what other sites have already posted as well as promoting things that are internal to the site such as the Image Archive or sponsor issues

As far as TFN...Phil owns both of them and so the cross promotion is intentional.
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 03:59 PM
Eh, who cares.  Just go where you enjoy it.

I hang out in the forums to have fun with my online buddies, and gain a little insight on all things SW.  I've just never gotten any kind of "personal" vibe from RS at all, so it never really "took" with me, and I rarely stop in there anymore.  Most all of my buddies are here.

Yeah, RS is still more active (though declining dramatically) and they've got a lot more members, but that doesn't necessarily equate to better quality.  Some good store reports for some areas though, so that's understandable.

And yeah, Philip got those forums handed to him on a silver platter by Mike.  There'd probably still be a completely empty "Rebel Lounge" over at RS if Mike never made the mistake of (briefly) merging with them.

Lotsa kids at RS.  Lotsa spamming.  Lotsa drama.  Lotsa meaningless drivle.  A few trolls.  But whatever.  It can be entertaining still.  And there's obviously still a few sections there that are helpful.  But whatever.  To each their own.

Maybe this thread's title should've just been "The former BHC continues it's downward spiral", 'cause that spiral really started shortly after the merge a few years ago, and was pretty much cemented after the "un-merge".  A shame really.

But unless you're one of the "old-timers" who was around back in the CSW days (or earlier), you likely won't even notice the decline...
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 04:28 PM
I should add, that as for the trading and classifieds sections go, you don't necessarily always get "safety in numbers".  Yeah, you may get quicker and more responses, but you're also gonna get a lot more deadbeats, scam artists, and dumbasses over there.  I've seen a lot of crap happening in those sections over the past year or two, so I don't venture in there nearly as often as I used to.  I love swapping loot with the JD'ers (and I think most others here would agree with this sentiment), simply because I KNOW them all.

I have no fear whatsoever of having any of my buddies or even just casual acquaintances here not coming through with an arranged transaction.  In fact, being the guy who regularly updates the feedback here, I don't think we've ever even had any BAD feedback posted here for a JD member, just warnings on people who have scammed folks at other sites.  So I'm more than happy to rely on the gang here for my occasional needs.  Never had a problem not being able to find something that I was looking for either, despite the "more limited" resources we have over here.  Just a more personal and safer buying/selling/trading environment here, I think...

Works for me, I know that much.   8)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Dimetrodon on October 28, 2004, 04:28 PM

But unless you're one of the "old-timers" who was around back in the CSW days (or earlier), you likely won't even notice the decline...

Dark times. But at least he left and made a better site. As far as Rebelscum having more members... most fo them are jsut a number statistic who don't post. Or remmnant statistics of people like me, who used to post, and have found better places.

Generally I'm not a forum or site basher, But Ihave a pretty big distaste for RS
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 04:30 PM
Sheesh, your avatar is totally messing with my head Andy!  I'm sitting here reviewing the post I just made, and looking at the last one above and thinking, WTF?!?  I didn't just write that!  I was completely confused as to how that go in there...

Duh.  Thought I was going crazy there for a second...  Phew!   :P
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Dimetrodon on October 28, 2004, 04:34 PM
It was the coolest one I could pick. For some reason, I couldn't put up my own...

and to keep this on topic...

Rebelscum = yesterdays news
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JoshEEE on October 28, 2004, 04:52 PM
I think you may have hit the nail on the head there, Matt. I think maybe you have to be someone who was part of the BHC, or even RS 3 or 4 years ago to understand that it's gotten worse.

I joined up 2 or 3 years ago....so RS is what it was then.  I've never really seen a "decline". I've seen ups and downs, but it's always had it's merits that balance it out.

And I've never been screwed (or screwed anyone else) via the classifieds. You just have to be very careful who you deal with and enforce your trading rules.

It also helps if you take about a year to do deals like we did with those Star Tours figures and blasters.   BTW Matt, KBZ and I are about to break our record for the longest trade ever. I've had a couple of clone 3 packs for him for over a year now that we STILL haven't made the deal on.  ;D
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 05:04 PM
It also helps if you take about a year to do deals like we did with those Star Tours figures and blasters.

Hey!  Not fair!  Not my fault!   :P  I mentioned to you that Disneyland had those Stormtrooper Blasters for quite a while, but by the time you finally got your slow butt around to deciding that you really wanted them, they had all mysteriously disappeared from the Star Traders shop.  So I searched, and I searched, and I searched, and finally like 9 months later, the things FINALLY reappeared there!  I think during that time I was holding on to that stupid little Bird Droid for you too, but that was it.

And technically, that wasn't even a "trade", since I hadn't gotten anything on my end.  Just a really long search to pimp your ass some stuff!   ;)

So there!   :-*
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2004, 05:05 PM
Either way, this one is going down in history!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 05:07 PM
Hey Rob, I think I've still got a couple extra Clone 3-packs floating around somewhere.  So if Josh has been dragging your deal down the toilet for a year, feel free to drop me a line and we can cut him out of the equation and finally get you some Clones!   ;)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JoshEEE on October 28, 2004, 05:54 PM
Hey now, the first half of the delay was Rob not having any money at the time I had all the clones. To be fair though, the bigger chunk of time was caused by me packing up all my figures in the move and then not finding them until about a month ago.

It's just like my situation with you Matt. We're just equally lazy.  ;D

But if you have clones too, I think he's still looking for some colors that I'm missing, so you two are welcome to cut me out of the deal if needed. Although I'd miss claiming the new record for longest deal ever,  my armies could always use a few more recruits anyway. ;)

Oops, we're going off topic.

Ahem----eh, Rebelscum sucks! Yeah, that's the ticket.

There, now I fit in again.  :P
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2004, 06:18 PM
Hey now, the first half of the delay was Rob not having any money at the time I had all the clones. To be fair though, the bigger chunk of time was caused by me packing up all my figures in the move and then not finding them until about a month ago.

It's just like my situation with you Matt. We're just equally lazy.  ;D

But if you have clones too, I think he's still looking for some colors that I'm missing, so you two are welcome to cut me out of the deal if needed. Although I'd miss claiming the new record for longest deal ever,  my armies could always use a few more recruits anyway. ;)

Oops, we're going off topic.

Ahem----eh, Rebelscum sucks! Yeah, that's the ticket.

There, now I fit in again.  :P

Yeah, money was tight once upon a time - but now it's no big deal at all.  I think originally I just wanted to wait a week or three so it could be put on the next credit card statement or something like that.   Still, you moving and then not being able to find them, and then not having your room unpacked, and then not sending the pictures accounts for 95% of the delay (don't take that the wrong way, I'm amused and totally happy with the whole thing so far).
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 06:28 PM
Still, you moving and then not being able to find them, and then not having your room unpacked...

Now that is something I'm quite familiar with!   :-\

BTW, I've only got a Lemon flavored 3-pack left.  Sounds like Rob needs Cherry (and Josh's MIA Blueberry)...

Anyone got an extra Red for the man?!
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 06:53 PM
 >:( Stay on topic or I'll make their newest mod Dark Kanos come over and shut this bitch down  >:(
Title: Re: Rob's search for Cherry flavored Clones...
Post by: JediMAC on October 28, 2004, 06:56 PM
>:( Stay on topic or I'll make their newest mod Dark Kanos come over and shut this bitch down  >:(

You need to settle the hell down Jamie.  Check the thread title dude.  We're absolutely ON TOPIC.  Dumbass!   ::)

- Mat(t)
Title: Re: Rob's search for Cherry flavored Clones...
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2004, 07:53 PM
This is my new favorite thread ever.
Title: Re: Rob's search for Cherry flavored Clones...
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 08:30 PM
Words can't express how pissed I am right now, hijackers!  >:(
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Vator on October 28, 2004, 09:04 PM
This is just great!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 09:08 PM
I demand justice, Matt's cousin Mat is doing an awful moderating job today.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Scott on October 28, 2004, 09:15 PM
I've banned the following users

JediMAC

That is all...continue
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2004, 09:17 PM
R.I.P.  :'(
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 09:19 PM
Sweet mother of justice, I am eternally gratefull Mr. OCB.  He should go offer his services at the 'Scum, perhaps they would give him a second chance...
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Scott on October 28, 2004, 09:20 PM
My work here is finished, time to go power sand my toe nails.  Cheers!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on October 28, 2004, 09:23 PM
Good Luck  :-\

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Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Angry Ewok on October 28, 2004, 09:52 PM
 >:(
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Holographic Elvis on October 29, 2004, 03:32 PM
Good thread.  Should have jumped on it sooner.

RS.com has definitely lost everything it had when it was CSW.com.  That site was fun.  RS seems to have no humanity to it.  It's kind of a joke now and for all the reasons already stated.  I'm glad Jamie and Matt turned me onto this site.  I never knew it existed til ComicCon, but then again, most of my "chatting" time was done over at the Spawn Sports Board because SportsPicks are my main hobby now.  This site kicks ass for the simple fact that it's mainly a bunch of clowns here, my kind of people.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JediMAC on October 29, 2004, 05:29 PM
This site kicks ass for the simple fact that it's mainly a bunch of clowns here...

What'd you call me?!?   >:(

Or were you just referring to the rest of the clowns around here?  Yeah, that must've been the case.   8)


And #1 clown Scot(t) better watch his ass, or he's really going to get banned...   ::)

- Mat(t)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 12:11 PM
Pretending that this is still the "Scum continues it's downward spiral" Thread, I'll post this here:



It's officially over! 

They apparently didn't choose me to be a mod.

Instead - going with the superior choice of....

Darth Big Boy.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Scott on November 16, 2004, 12:12 PM
I rarely laugh out loud, but I just did
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 16, 2004, 12:16 PM
wow, is that... really? ok.

well, did you really want it that bad, zod?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 12:17 PM
The end is nigh.

What's next?  Cinemaddiction as a mod?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: DSJ™ on November 16, 2004, 12:19 PM
They apparently didn't choose me to be a mod.

Instead - going with the superior choice of....

Darth Big Boy.

I rarely laugh out loud, but I just did

I just followed Scott's lead!  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rotfl.gif)

Quote
Today we promoted Darth_Big_Boy to moderator in the Wuhers forum.

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rofl.gif)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Deanpaul on November 16, 2004, 12:23 PM
Pretending that this is still the "Scum continues it's downward spiral" Thread, I'll post this here:



It's officially over! 

They apparently didn't choose me to be a mod.


I’m pretty certain “the Eye of Philip” surveyed this thread. I would be naďve to think the things said here go unnoticed at ‘scum.

They’re making a list, they’re checking it twice.

I'd offer my condolences, but I honestly think you've come out ahead on this one. Being a mod a RS seems to be a no win, statistically speaking.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Deanpaul on November 16, 2004, 12:25 PM
I'd offer my condolences, but I honestly think you've come out ahead on this one. Being a mod a RS seems to be a no win, statistically speaking.

Damn! See that? I just blew my chances of ever modding over there.

Oh wait, I don't even post there anymore. Maybe that fact alone makes me an ideal mod?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 12:27 PM
Given the fact that they'd pick DBB I think you're right DP.

Of course, if they came over here and read that I had reservations about it, I'd hardly be the frontrunner for the job.  But it's a little insulting regardless given the choice they made.   At least I seemed to be the popular choice among the proletariats...
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Jeff on November 16, 2004, 01:16 PM
I heartily support the decision!  I would also encourage Scum to add General Windu, YodaBoi, and Dark Kanos next.  That trio would be able to keep Scum safe for illiterate posters everywhere banning all those who mock their inability to use the grammar correctly.

Imagine...

'I saw thet a guy who wuz the forums tryed to post a politcol thred and I baned him!"

 ::)

Jeff
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 01:20 PM
Haha.

I'm starting to wonder if they might have not been done deciding on if they wanted more (because they left the thread in the forum feedback section open) and I'm shooting myself in the foot for consideration from here on out.

So be it.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 16, 2004, 01:24 PM
that avatar of his is all the more interesting, now.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Diddly on November 16, 2004, 05:59 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/3429.gif)

Too bad he didn't use a picture of himself. That would have made the avatar MUCH better! :D

I'm starting to wonder if there is any hope in reviving the Scum.

----------

I may go over there and do some spamming sometime. You know, some DBB quality threads (just a link). My excuse can be: "But the mods do it... why can't I?" ;D
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob L on November 16, 2004, 06:25 PM
Hopefully there will be more mods to come…

…I thought when an ex-mod (i.e. myself ;D) voted for someone, then that would score highly with the big PW.  But apparently not  :-[
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2004, 06:33 PM
Saw it just a while ago...  Pretty interesting.  As much as I know DBB's popularity, he's not a bad person at least...  In that regard, they could've DEFINITELY made worse choices...

Jeff's, to be exact.

But, yeah, it does have to be somewhat of an insult to you KBZ, considering... 

He's got the qualities they want.  He's there 24/7 it seems, he is generally indifferent from what I've seen, and GNT seems to have set the tone for post padding being somewhat of a plus as well.

So be it...

The horsemen of the RS apocalypse are Jeff's picks though.  *shudder*

They're a kindergarten class run amock.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Vator on November 16, 2004, 08:57 PM
Appereantly Lady Jaye is also a moderator there.

LJ, if you're even still allowed to post here, please tell us you'll advance some reforms on RS!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Diddly on November 16, 2004, 09:42 PM
Lady Jaye bringing decency to the Scum? I SERIOUSLY doubt it. She's probably one of the WORST padders there, only behind GNT.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 16, 2004, 10:23 PM
Lady Jaye bringing decency to the Scum? I SERIOUSLY doubt it. She's probably one of the WORST padders there, only behind GNT.

Not only is she terrible when it comes to that, but she's been on haitus for months now.  She's going to just be granted moderator status after that?

Given the types of people they want as mods over there, I'm officially eternally grateful to have NOT been chosen.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: General Grievous on November 16, 2004, 10:31 PM
LJ a mod? That place is becoming even ********. KBZ is the only one who deserves the position.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 16, 2004, 10:32 PM
What the ****, I thought this thread died out long ago, and I turn around and it's still alive! Now I know why I got that cryptic message from Angry Ewok a while back! :P

So yeah scum as usual brings in some ****** up choices for mods, but then again they're mods for wuher's so you might as well let the morons mod each other. Isn't that how GNT got modded?

If it wasn't for that wrestling trivia thread (of which I 0wned all who block my path), I'd never stop into Wuher's. It's just that thread and just the vintage section I visit there now, and sometimes seeing the same posts about scams and not so scams on ebay can be a bit boring. Hell I don't even want to go into the customs section, especially with all the ass-kissing going on in there (JJ: I swear if that happens on the FForums I'm going to blow it up!  >:() So to recap, Scum = teh suck, JD = teh not suck!  :D
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Diddly on November 16, 2004, 11:14 PM
LJ a mod? That place is becoming even ********. KBZ is the only one who deserves the position.

Damn, Durge, isn't this your millionth name here?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 16, 2004, 11:18 PM
LJ a mod? That place is becoming even ********. KBZ is the only one who deserves the position.

Damn, Durge, isn't this your millionth name here?

It's a millionth and one me thinks. I don't get what purpose it serves, too bad they won't let him back in on scum, then he wouldn't be fouling up this place.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 17, 2004, 12:39 AM
wait durge - what's the deal with the invisible hand guy? is that you?
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: General Grievous on November 17, 2004, 12:41 AM
I am not ivisiblehand. I read YodaBoi's thread and got a pretty good laugh out of it. I hope they ban him (invisible hand, not yodaboi, however yodaboi would be good too). That would prove that the admin there are clueless.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: DSJ™ on November 17, 2004, 08:34 AM
Lady Jaye = 42 posts since she became a Mod!  ::)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 17, 2004, 10:17 AM
Lady Jaye = 42 posts since she became a Mod!  ::)

I'd be willing to bet that less than 1 of them had any degree of substance whatsoever.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on November 17, 2004, 11:21 AM
I'm both shocked and amazed that the good "Lady" is a mod now.  I really don't know what else to say about it, other than at this point I really hope they make someone like General Windu or Yoda Boi a mod as well so the transformation into hell can be complete.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: stormie on November 17, 2004, 12:45 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the problem many of you have with LJ? Yeah, she posts a lot and her spelling, syntax and grammar are sometimes atrocious, but everything I've read from her has been pretty straight forward and respectful of others. Since when did posting a lot be a "bad" thing? And as far as "substance," I don't think you should actually expect to find much of it on any toy-collecting forums. Like I said before, RS is pretty entertaining because of its geek-fest posting, and if they could get rid of the disrespectful dimwits that post there, it'd be even more so.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Xander on November 17, 2004, 12:54 PM
Ok, back to Zod.  I must have missed - did we vote or something over there?  Cuz I was all set to send in this letter of recommendation on my company's letterhead and everything.  Forged endorsements from foreign heads of state too. I would have at least PM'd the approriate head guy there. 

"Oh man, we spaced on the election day - it was yesterday!"
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 17, 2004, 12:59 PM

I'd be willing to bet that less than 1 of them had any degree of substance whatsoever.

but... only zero is less than one... ohhhhhhh.

anyone notice how many threads DBB has started since his knighthood? it's kinda cute.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Bob Crane on November 17, 2004, 01:01 PM
I really hope they make someone like General Windu or Yoda Boi a mod as well so the transformation into hell can be complete.

Ahhhhh, that would be so awesome!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 17, 2004, 01:47 PM
And as far as "substance," I don't think you should actually expect to find much of it on any toy-collecting forums. Like I said before, RS is pretty entertaining because of its geek-fest posting, and if they could get rid of the disrespectful dimwits that post there, it'd be even more so.

There's lack of substance, then there's lack of substance.  We're not talking about a dissertation on nuclear physics versus a tirade about the price of the VOTC.  We're talking about the difference between a thread on the Incredibles or some generic movie and what you liked about it versus a bunch of posts soley comprised of :) 's and !!!!!!!!'s. 

Some people treat it like a chat room where anything that flutters into your head must be posted. 
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2004, 04:33 PM
I've always gotten along with LJ, but I have to admit that what's being said is true.  She's a post-count/padding champion.  She always has been, and it's cost her respect from a vast majority.

I don't mind DBB as a person either...  I think LJ and DBB are probably good people.  The same can't be said for my opinion of the other monkeys in the cage, like Yoda Boi, General Windu, etc...  Those guys irk the **** out of me because their personalities are in the toilet along with their habits at the site. 

That said though, DBB and LJ tend to not represent ideals in behavior, especially from a site that bitches about post-padding like Scum does.  They hired GNT though, so the tone has been set.  What can you really say about it at this point?

Anything's fair game I guess.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 17, 2004, 06:34 PM
Yeah pretty much what JJ and KBZ have said is the truth, you have these people who clearly don't have the concept of how a message board is to be used now becoming moderators and only setting bad examples for the other members many of which themselves have no clue. The thing to remember though is that these kind of people gravitate towards scum, first it was GNT, then it was banky and sithlordtoys, then it was durge and lady jaye, now its people like general windu and yoda boi. It's not something the scum can escape from, but it sure does make for some entertaining spectacles.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Logray2776 on November 17, 2004, 09:29 PM
Wow rebelscum has become quite entertaining as of late, hasn't it? I do have one question though, why is it that defender only needs a few mods, and scum likes to have 10 or more in the catina?

Sorry if it is a stupid question, but i very rarely post over that way any more.


                                             Claude
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 17, 2004, 09:38 PM
Wow rebelscum has become quite entertaining as of late, hasn't it? I do have one question though, why is it that defender only needs a few mods, and scum likes to have 10 or more in the catina?

Sorry if it is a stupid question, but i very rarely post over that way any more.


                                             Claude

Well Logray I'm sure there are several valid reasons for why JD only needs a couple of mods as opposed to a dozen at Scum for their "Off Topic" section. One reason would be that the amount of people going thru scum is higher and  as such more idiots go thru there than here at JD. Another reason of course would be that the mods here are you know, competent.

Rock rock on!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 17, 2004, 09:57 PM
Age is probably a huge factor too.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JoshEEE on November 18, 2004, 02:34 AM
I must admit to being blown away when I stopped by the scum earlier today. I'm gone only a few days and it goes to hell.

DBB is a good choice for mod (he's there all the time and generally level headed) but passing KBZ over for the queen of extra punctuation marks?

Did they feel there was a shortage of smiley faces or something?

Christ.


BTW.....someone apparently finally "outed" Lady Jaye by posting a picture of her in a thread tonight, which was quickly removed.

"Lady Jaye" herself said that this girl had the same name, but that the picture wasn't her (is this another Gregg/Greg situation?). Did I miss some detective work over the last few days?  ;D


(http://www.yesprep.org/Photo_Album/Class_of_2002/Bertha.jpg)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Jesse James on November 18, 2004, 02:48 AM
Greg(g) thing is exactly what I thought...  Good eye to get it before removed.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Xander on November 18, 2004, 07:57 AM
So its Bertha, is it?  The picture is back up at Scum, so it was quickly removed, then denied, then put back up? Hmmm.

I guess we could ask those people that she listed, if we wanted to.

I've been put off by some of Lady Jaye's shenannigans, like the posting of "provocative" pictures of racists just to instigate fights, and the the majority of posts I don't even read as they just seem to fill out threads with punctuation. I always liked discussing certain things with her though.  Still, she ain't exactly mod material.

Too much fun!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: stormie on November 18, 2004, 09:17 AM
There's lack of substance, then there's lack of substance.  We're not talking about a dissertation on nuclear physics versus a tirade about the price of the VOTC.  We're talking about the difference between a thread on the Incredibles or some generic movie and what you liked about it versus a bunch of posts soley comprised of :) 's and !!!!!!!!'s. 

Some people treat it like a chat room where anything that flutters into your head must be posted. 

I guess I've never really understood the whole post-padding problem and why it has to be a problem. Everyone has been guilty at one time or another of posting a pointless or obvious (often rude) remark. I guess lack of substance is subjective...which I think is the root of the whole problem.

Overall, though, LJ and DBB seem to me to have always been respectful of others, and even if it means more overall posts, that's a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 18, 2004, 10:25 AM
Overall, though, LJ and DBB seem to me to have always been respectful of others, and even if it means more overall posts, that's a step in the right direction.

DBB sure, but time and time again LJ has inched dangerously close to blatant racism in her remarks - and been called out for it.

BTW - the consensus is roughly 99% sure that the picture IS her.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Famine on November 18, 2004, 11:47 AM
I don't get it. I plaster my ugly mug all over the internet and TV with no problem. These guys get found out, and WHAM, "No, it's my cousin, The Master." etc. Your rouse of mysteriousness has been lifted. Get over it and move on.

Oh well, it's just more fuel for the fire.

Kevin
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: stormie on November 18, 2004, 12:42 PM
LJ has inched dangerously close to blatant racism in her remarks - and been called out for it.

Hmmm. Haven't seen any evidence of this myself. I do remember a big hubbub about her use of an ambiguous Hitler quote or something at her school, but, to me that was all about stirring the pot at her school, the ethics, the moral dilemmas, etc. (the usual stuff you go through in college), and not hatred. However, everyone and anyone can be offended easily by anything or everything, so that thread seemed to devolve quickly. I think if she were really showing and posting her hatred, I don't think she'd still be around. I think the easily-offended PC crowd is the minority.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: C on November 18, 2004, 12:45 PM
BTW - the consensus is roughly 99% sure that the picture IS her.

as stupid as it is to be scrutinizing this, the link for the picture takes you to a Houston area prep school, and the picture "bertha" is from the class of 2002. i don't really know anything about her, but isn't she from around that area? and didn't she just start college? seems about right.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: jjks on November 18, 2004, 01:28 PM
I'm fairly certain it's her cousin berthaa
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Famine on November 18, 2004, 01:37 PM
I'm fairly certain it's her cousin berthaa

You rock.

Kevin(n)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: Rob on November 18, 2004, 01:42 PM
LJ has inched dangerously close to blatant racism in her remarks - and been called out for it.

Hmmm. Haven't seen any evidence of this myself. I do remember a big hubbub about her use of an ambiguous Hitler quote or something at her school, but, to me that was all about stirring the pot at her school, the ethics, the moral dilemmas, etc. (the usual stuff you go through in college), and not hatred. However, everyone and anyone can be offended easily by anything or everything, so that thread seemed to devolve quickly. I think if she were really showing and posting her hatred, I don't think she'd still be around. I think the easily-offended PC crowd is the minority.

Yeah - but that wasn't the first time.

Despite my repuation, I'm not a guy who cares what people say or and I'm not really into all that PC stuff that much, and I'm certainly not easily-offended.  But defending anything said by Hitler because it could be good in another context was a bit much IMO.  Either way, it probably won't come up again. 
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JediMAC on November 19, 2004, 08:27 PM
Good God, I can't believe I haven't checked this thread yet since my return from MN!

Excellent!

So who deserves the credit for solving another of the World's Greatest Mysteries?!

Bertha(a), indeed.  Exactly what I thought when I perused her (self-congratulating) thread over at RS.

And I've never seen another RS member discuss their post count anywhere close to as much as Bertha has.  Not even Greg(g).  She'd always make a comment like "Hey, I'm almost a Grand Moff, not that I actually care about post counts, or anything..."  Yeah right.  I think only close to half of her posts over there mentioned it in some form or another...   ::)

Moderator?  Shocking.  Really.  But it shouldn't be, after Greg(g)'s appointment a while back...

But at least she proved all you naysayers wrong though, and finally showed you that she was indeed a chick (I think).   ;)
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JediMAC on November 19, 2004, 09:10 PM
Boy, Bertha sure ain't too happy with her newfound fame and fortune of being an RS mod, it looks like.  Sounds like maybe she should contact Greg(g)'s lawyer to figure out how best to proceed...

What's ironic, is that she's getting all pissy about anyone having her personal information, yet Phillip fired half of his moderators over at TheForce.net earlier this year for NOT giving him all of their personal information.  Weird.   :P
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: DSJ™ on November 19, 2004, 09:11 PM
One big soap opera to me, better than Digital Cable!  ;D
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: JediMAC on November 19, 2004, 09:12 PM
Maybe.  That depends on what channels you've got.
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: DSJ™ on November 19, 2004, 09:15 PM
 :P
Title: Re: Jamie Can't Take The Heat...Stays Out Of The Kitchen
Post by: CorranHorn on November 19, 2004, 09:15 PM
Ok so let me get this straight. Lady Jaye had her pic available on the net and is freaked out someone found it? Why have your pic on the net then? On the other hand, someone has no other goal in life but to look for a pic of a moderator of a low-class section of a star wars collecting forum? All sorts of ****edupness there.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Ben on November 19, 2004, 10:12 PM
RS sucks.

I still post there and use the Look What I Found section often, but they've lost sight of the reason they're there in the first place.

And their topics in the collecting areas just....suck.

And you can't say '****' there either.



*snobbiest JD post ever.*
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Darth Kenobi on November 19, 2004, 10:40 PM
Thank god that I have GH and JD to hang out in most of the time.   The promotion of DDB and Lady Jaye just shows how much respect Phillip has for his community.  DDB to me is okay but wouldn't be my first choice for the spot.  Lady Jaye is up there with Greeg(g) as far as lack of qualfiications to watch over the fourms.  It also funny reading Jaye's reply to her picture being posted online and all of the stuff she has to say about it.  I would think she would be happy since it means she has proof that she is actually a Lady and not a man.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Vator on November 19, 2004, 11:28 PM
Happy times have returned to rebelscum it seems.
New mods for the new Year.
perhaps there has been a Famine of intellegence in those forums for years.

Anyway, I remember when me and DS made our attack. Sadly it was short lived and reconstruction was already underway by the time everyone could see it.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Famine on November 19, 2004, 11:30 PM
Someday there will be somthing of legend to ring in a new begining, and maybe, just MAYBE, RS wont suck so bad.

Kevin
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 12:11 AM
Man... I saw this thread's new title and was gonna come in here and ask what everyone thought of Valor Vs. Venom...  >:(
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JediMAC on November 20, 2004, 01:08 AM
Hah.  Sorry for the confusion Rob.  Here ya' go:

GI Joe Toys Thread (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=2481.0)

Knock yourself out.   ;)

Or, you can talk about GI Joe in here too, since it's somewhat on topic now...   :P
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2004, 01:26 AM
I had to drop by because I heard this thread was back up. Am I nuts, or was it removed earlier in the day?  Maybe the title was just changed....but I swear this thread was gone altogether.


Anyway....my congratulations to whomever discovered the identity of "Lady" Jaye and posted that pic. 

I haven't seen someone this foolishly indignant about information they voluntarily gave out over the internet since that Grandmother on the news who gave her Credit Card number to an authentic Paypal website hoping Bill Gates was going to send her 5 million dollars.


I love how I'm the current whipping boy even though I had nothing to do with this whole thing.  For all the blame being thrown my way, I would love to at least be able to point and say "Yeah, I did that".

Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Bob Crane on November 20, 2004, 01:33 AM
If possible, could some kind soul post a link to LJ's picture? I can't check the RS forum, but I'm so goshdarned surprised that LJ is actually a woman, that I feel compelled to have a lookey at the previously uber-mysterious visage.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JediMAC on November 20, 2004, 01:45 AM
Just check the prior page of this thread.   ;)

I had to drop by because I heard this thread was back up. Am I nuts, or was it removed earlier in the day?  Maybe the title was just changed....but I swear this thread was gone altogether.

Nope, it's been here all along Josh.  I came right in here when I saw that first JD mention earlier today, and it was sitting several threads down.  The title change didn't happen until later this afternoon though...
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2004, 02:06 AM
Ok....I'm smoking crack then. Sorry, I should lay off that shiznit before bedtime.

So, I noticed that LJ edited the closed thread yet again with yet another denial saying that picture isn't her.

The funniest thing is it SO eerily close to Gregg's "That's my cousin" defense (claiming to be much older than the person in the picture) that it made me wonder if that's the standard defense when one is "discovered" nowadays.

BTW...I'd like to say that I'm really 50, and not the 30 that people accused me of being in the birthday thread a few days ago here.

How else could I have been in College with George Lucas when he came up with the idea for Star Wars?????
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 02:20 AM
Wait Josh, I thought you told me that it was you that came up with the idea for Star Wars and Lucas stole it.

Hence the crappy prequels.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2004, 02:34 AM
Hey, don't blame the prequels on me.
After he made all the money with the whole Star Wars thing, it kind of changed him. When I knew him in college, we were all about making a classic with models and puppets.

Unfortunately, I think all the glue fumes got to him.  ;D

Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: CorranHorn on November 20, 2004, 02:38 AM
well I saw the thread on scum that started this tangent and man she is sure paranoid about the whole situation. though at the same time i actually do agree with her that private info given to someone shouldnt be shared by that someone,

with that said I thought John Hamm's posts were down right hilarious  ;D
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 02:41 AM
with that said I thought John Hamm's posts were down right hilarious  ;D

They pretty much always are!
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: JoshEEE on November 20, 2004, 03:10 AM
Quote
well I saw the thread on scum that started this tangent and man she is sure paranoid about the whole situation. though at the same time i actually do agree with her that private info given to someone shouldnt be shared by that someone,

I agree with you there too. If I had cared enough to find out that info myself when I had "The power"....I wouldn't have posted it or anything. While it might have been funny, that's just not my thing.

However, when someone finally let the cat of the bag (and posted a picture no less) I figured it's fair game. Once the secret is out, I feel it's free information and she should have just rolled with it. No one would have cared.

Her desperate attempts at a cover up was as stupid as Ashley Simpson blaming her band for her lip synching and "Doing a hoe down".  It just makes her look dumb, and that's why I have no sympathy.

That and the fact she called me a bunch of names for simply repeating something that someone else already discovered.

Bleh. Who needs the drama?
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2004, 03:14 AM
Scum's been as interesting as ever.  Seriously.

That's such a sad, sad statement of affairs there.  The place is a train wreck.  It was before, but now it's just 10 x worse. 

It's funny to watch from afar though.  Incase I need to find something new to be thankful for, it is having a place separate of that clusterf of stupidity.

I honestly don't mind DBB and LJ as people, but neither one is fit to mod there.  I don't know that anyone can manage that 3-ring fiasco, plus the sideshow too.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: CorranHorn on November 20, 2004, 03:17 AM
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well I saw the thread on scum that started this tangent and man she is sure paranoid about the whole situation. though at the same time i actually do agree with her that private info given to someone shouldnt be shared by that someone,

I agree with you there too. If I had cared enough to find out that info myself when I had "The power"....I wouldn't have posted it or anything. While it might have been funny, that's just not my thing.

However, when someone finally let the cat of the bag (and posted a picture no less) I figured it's fair game. Once the secret is out, I feel it's free information and she should have just rolled with it. No one would have cared.

Her desperate attempts at a cover up was as stupid as Ashley Simpson blaming her band for her lip synching and "Doing a hoe down".  It just makes her look dumb, and that's why I have no sympathy.

That and the fact she called me a bunch of names for simply repeating something that someone else already discovered.

Bleh. Who needs the drama?

yeah it's her defense of saying its not her that is going against her, not whether or not it is her.  from what i can tell the picture/link was deleted by her, i think that's what screwed her over. if she leaves it be and just says hey it isnt me, then that's that, people can think all they want, but she pressed on and on about it. but yeah it's all just drama, but that's all that the scum is good for, well that and owning in wrestling trivia  ;D
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 11:41 AM
Hey, don't blame the prequels on me.
After he made all the money with the whole Star Wars thing, it kind of changed him. When I knew him in college, we were all about making a classic with models and puppets.

Unfortunately, I think all the glue fumes got to him.  ;D



(The joke was that you weren't around anymore to steal ideas from so he had to think of the prequels on his own - which is why they aren't very good)   ;)
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Rob on November 20, 2004, 11:43 AM
I honestly don't mind DBB and LJ as people, but neither one is fit to mod there.  I don't know that anyone can manage that 3-ring fiasco, plus the sideshow too.

That's a more fair assessment.  I don't think anyone around here is honestly disliking people for who they are (except maybe one or two...) but saying that time and time again the wrong people are picked to run the show over there.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: hansolo_506 on November 20, 2004, 12:14 PM
Rebelscum, courtesy of Wuhrers, is continuing a steady decent into hell.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2004, 04:32 PM
Yeah, the people everyone generally DOES dislike have their own threads.  Like GNT, the "kids" club, etc.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Diddly on November 20, 2004, 11:43 PM
I have never witnessed YodaBoi's wrath of stupidity until tonight.

We need 50cc's of intelligence, stat!
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2004, 12:12 AM
My personal favorite moment of brilliance for him, at this moment anyway, is the fact he's single-handedly getting a thread going for EVERY figure in the recent E3 figure list, and giving them their OWN topics one at a time.

Very classy, and smart.    :-X  Brilliance.

I don't have the foggiest clue what motivates these people.  Why they have to see their words typed out in public.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Scott on November 21, 2004, 12:14 AM
That's **** Greg(g) started back in the OTC section.  Someone used to start a thread by wave, but, being the paranoid freakazoid he is, he'd start his own thread on each damn figure
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: CorranHorn on November 21, 2004, 12:39 AM
I have never witnessed YodaBoi's wrath of stupidity until tonight.

We need 50cc's of intelligence, stat!

you should follow the wrestling trivia thread more often then. i've called him out 4 times on giving false answers to his own questions or not being able to back up his answers. he's also quite fond of jumping the gun and ignoring what others are currently doing in the thread. i enjoy putting him in his place on a regular basis in that thread
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Diddly on November 21, 2004, 01:02 AM
Yeah, that's where I interacted with him. He kept giving the STUPIDEST answers ever. For example, I would ask who wrestled in a certain match at a certain event, and he would respond with EVERY wrestler who wrestled at said event. It's crazy.

EDIT: I see that Angry Ewok's "friend" JediKnight567865827658619 has returned... should be interesting to see what he does.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: CorranHorn on November 21, 2004, 01:27 AM
Yeah, that's where I interacted with him. He kept giving the STUPIDEST answers ever. For example, I would ask who wrestled in a certain match at a certain event, and he would respond with EVERY wrestler who wrestled at said event. It's crazy.

EDIT: I see that Angry Ewok's "friend" JediKnight567865827658619 has returned... should be interesting to see what he does.

yeah he does the same **** to me all the time, it reallly pisses me off. perhaps we shuld do a wrestling trivia thread here instead if there's enough interest :)

oh gawd that jediknight9021023129042317452 guy is another pain in the ass
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Diddly on November 21, 2004, 02:16 AM
I doubt there would be any interest here unless it was old school stuff from the 80's, but you never know. :)

Looks like the [edit]  is really on the ball with his knowledge of JD's relationship with Durge... ::)


Edit by AE:
Shame on you.
Title: Re: The G.I. Joe Appreciation Society!
Post by: Famine on November 21, 2004, 01:43 PM
I'd be game for a Wrestling Trivia thread.

Kevin
Title: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jjks on November 21, 2004, 11:33 PM
I see you sometimes listed on the active users list, but you never seem to post here. That makes me kind of sad. Holla at your boy girlfriend!



Rats...she left without saying hello  >:(


I think I have BM in my pants  :-[
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 21, 2004, 11:48 PM
I just came cause I heard all the **** you guys have been saying about me. Just wanted to see if it was true or not. I mean I expect this kind of sh1t from an atangonistic bastards like JoshEEE, but not from guys I used to be cool with. Oh well, I guess live and learn, no matter how nice you are, you get talked about anyway.

Hey Stormie, thanks for trying to stick up for me, I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!
Post by: jjks on November 21, 2004, 11:50 PM
I just came cause I heard all the **** you guys have been saying about me. Just wanted to see if it was true or not. I mean I expect this kind of sh1t from an atangonistic bastards like JoshEEE, but not from guys I used to be cool with. Oh well, I guess live and learn, no matter how nice you are, you get talked about anyway.

Hey Stormie, thanks for trying to stick up for me, I appreciate it.

This board lets you say ****, you don't have to hide it.

Cool huh?
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 21, 2004, 11:54 PM
You know with all this talk about useless posts and post padding and what not, what does it really matter?? I mean in the end, are we all just a bunch of adults talking about a freaking toy line here??? I mean how serious can these conversations get??? Shouldn't we be concerned about about just having fun, and escaping the real world for a bit, instead of bitching and moaning about a site you don't come to anymore, or a site you talk about when you're not there!!! Anyhow anything else you want to say to me JJKS????
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jjks on November 21, 2004, 11:56 PM
umm...welcome back?
 
 :o

 :o

 :o

 :o
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 12:39 AM
Is that it?? No jokes, no put downs?? Where's the rest of my fan club, just waiting to make fun of me.  I mean is this what has become of what was once the great collectstarwars.com communtiy , a bunch of hatefull, spitefull, persons that spit in the face of one your own, one that has never said a bad thing about any of you. Someone that has been with you guys since back in '01??

The GI JOE appreciation thread is a real class act fellas. Nice to see you guys have fun at our expense!!!
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: CorranHorn on November 22, 2004, 12:49 AM
Is that it?? No jokes, no put downs?? Where's the rest of my fan club, just waiting to make fun of me.  I mean is this what has become of what was once the great collectstarwars.com communtiy , a bunch of hatefull, spitefull, persons that spit in the face of one your own, one that has never said a bad thing about any of you. Someone that has been with you guys since back in '01??

The GI JOE appreciation thread is a real class act fellas. Nice to see you guys have fun at our expense!!!

actually what has become of the once great csw community is directly linked to the decay of the rebelscum forums, most notably wuher's cantina. add to that the splitting of peoples do to the formation of galactichunter and other sites and csw community, aka the bounty hunter's collective is sadly extinct

that thread actually speaks many truths about the actions going on. there are certainly some less than savory comments made, as i can't speak for others i won't  try to explain them, however I know that much of what is said is from the true experiences that go on most notably in wuhers.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Rob on November 22, 2004, 12:52 AM
Being as that was a direct reference to me, I can only say what I already said to you.

A)  Anything I posted here was not an attempt to talk about you behind your back - it was on the internet and in the public domain.   The conversation is here and I assumed rebelscum folks would see it one way or another.  Tons of people who don't post here pop on in and read along.  Simple as that.  

B)  I'm glad I wasn't picked to be a mod over there.  Simple as that.

C)  I know you don't believe me, but again, I didn't give out your name.   Someone else gave it out or someone found it in a profile or you told someone you're not recalling or so on and so forth.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:03 AM
So yeah scum as usual brings in some ****** up choices for mods, but then again they're mods for wuher's so you might as well let the morons mod each other. Isn't that how GNT got modded?

Like I said Corran Horn I have never said a bad thing about most of you guys. And yet you come over here and instead of trying to help, you just sit there and degrade us.

I mean people like JediMac, DSJ, and the other mods, whom I've never said a bad thing about, are over here just talking all sorts of ****!!! Thanks guys, you keep the collectstarwars memory glowing!!!
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jokabofe on November 22, 2004, 01:06 AM
Alright, that's enough of this nonsense. If you guys have a problem, take it to pm. Or take it back to Rebelscum where it belongs.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Rob on November 22, 2004, 01:07 AM
You're missing the point.  I don't want to moderate the 12 year olds who do the majority of the posting over there.  I passed on applying in the past and it was a mistake to apply this time around. 

And since I've told you 5 times now that I didn't give out your name, and you haven't once responded.  I'll say it again.

I didn't give out your name.  I didn't even remember it until all this crap with your picture unfolded.

I'm not into message board drama so I'll leave it at that.  I'm not going to beg to be believed.  But if you're going to pin that one on me, you're looking in the wrong place.

Goodnight.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:10 AM
Alright, that's enough of this nonsense. If you guys have a problem, take it to pm. Or take it back to Rebelscum where it belongs.

But I thought what with the GI JOE appreciation thread, that this was a perfect place to let the former scummers get shots in on my expense??? Or is it just that I am not supposed to fight back, and just sit here and take all the slaps in the face comments and what not, from people I have never said a bad thing about!!!! Oh yeah, real mature guys around here, real mature!!!

I mean forgive me for raining on your parade of insults and jokes aimed at my expense.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jokabofe on November 22, 2004, 01:14 AM
All I'm saying is this: when one of "our guys" starts stuff like this over at Rebelscum, we get emails from Philip telling us to stop doing it, and respect his forums. I'm sure he's going to love seeing one of his own moderators coming over here and starting trouble. And before you say it, yes, I know you did not start this thread, but that isn't the point. The point of this thread was jjks wondering why you were popping in and out without making a post.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:16 AM
Look I'm sorry for doing this, but it hurts seeing people you thought were at least cool with, come over here and just talk trash to no end, behind your back. But wouldn't you want to face the people talking about you?? And this has nothing to do with the scum, it's between people that have made fun of or insulted me!!
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jokabofe on November 22, 2004, 01:17 AM
And once again - and for the last time - if you have a problem with someone here, talk/argue/bitch/whatever with that person through a personal message, not on the forum.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:19 AM
Fine, no problem, but I would ask that if people start talking bad about me that you would put a stop to it immediatley. I mean I know this is not the kind of legacy collectstarwars.com would want.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jjks on November 22, 2004, 01:22 AM
Not to speak on behalf on the actual staff here, but this site doesn't have a thing to do with (what once was) CollectStarWars.

I believe you have them confused with Galactic Hunter...
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: jokabofe on November 22, 2004, 01:25 AM
You beat me to it... why do you (LJ) keep mention collectstarwars.com? What does that have to do with anything? Like Jamie said, we have never had anything to do with collectstarwars.com with the exception that some of our members were once members over there. Other than that, there's no connection. Or at least as far as I know.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: CorranHorn on November 22, 2004, 01:37 AM
So yeah scum as usual brings in some ****** up choices for mods, but then again they're mods for wuher's so you might as well let the morons mod each other. Isn't that how GNT got modded?

Like I said Corran Horn I have never said a bad thing about most of you guys. And yet you come over here and instead of trying to help, you just sit there and degrade us.

I mean people like JediMac, DSJ, and the other mods, whom I've never said a bad thing about, are over here just talking all sorts of ****!!! Thanks guys, you keep the collectstarwars memory glowing!!!

ya know you're right, probably not the nicest thing to be said, however as i said in my previous post, whatever has been said was based on true experiences as well as observations. the post you quoted from me was my own opinion based on the actions of yourself and the other new wuher mod, immediately following your modness being granted as well as my observations of the crapitude that is wuhers which has spread to much of the rebelscum forums (there's your answer for what happened to the csw community). i'm not going to take back all of what i said above as it's already been stated, but i will say sorry for inferring to you solely as a moron if you took it as such. however keep in mind that people will form their own opinions on others based on the actions of those others. the opinion you can form of me right now is that I'm an *******, which is sometimes the case, but not always. that goes for all people. a word of advice though, in the end try not to let the opinions of others bug you so much, it will only drive you nuts.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 01:42 AM
And like I said, it is an attack on me and my abilities, without giving me a chance first. And from someone that has never said a bad thing about you!!! That's the most important part.

But anyhow I will not argue with anyone per jokabofe's request. If you want we can continue this via PM.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Angry Ewok on November 22, 2004, 01:55 AM
Our staff shouldn't have to ask more than once for it to be taken to PM.

Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: JediMAC on November 22, 2004, 02:58 AM
Boy, looks like I missed all the drama tonight!  Speaking of "mod powers", I'm going to abuse mine right now, and reply to this already locked thread, just to get my 2 cents in, so LJ can understand where I (and others) are coming from...

I mean people like JediMac, DSJ, and the other mods, whom I've never said a bad thing about, are over here just talking all sorts of ****!!!

I wouldn't say I'm talking all kinds of **** about you Bertha.  I just said that I've never seen anyone (aside from maybe Gregg) who was so concerned with their post counts and rankings.  You mentioned it ALL THE TIME over there, and it just gets annoying after awhile - especially when you keep trying to suggest that you really don't care about the post counts (not at all true).  I also don't think you're a very good choice for the mod gig there, just as I didn't think Gregg was a good choice.  Just 'cause someone posts a million times, often with little quality or significance, does not mean they're the best person to "moderate" your forums.  IMO, it sets a poor example for the other members, and a bad precedent for the community as a whole.

But Rebelscum is different in that respect though, since Phillip has made it blatantly obvious that he prefers quantity over quality.  That's his prerogative of course, and choosing mods such as Gregg and yourself are perfect examples of what he's truly striving for over there.  On the flipside of that however, are sites like us and GH, where we'd much rather have some "quality" discussions, and not just a bunch of random drivel.  That's all.  And I'm by no means suggesting this is something limited to just you there.  It's vastly widespread, which is why many of us here at JD don't enjoy hanging out much at RS anymore.  Just a preference...

Anyway, like most people mentioned in the other thread (which has had it's title changed numerous times), none of us think that you're a "bad" person.  We just think you post pad a bit, and weren't the best candidate for the moderator job (which was actually Rob, but that's a separate issue).  Besides, it's a little weird for someone to have a self-imposed banning from a website, only to come back several months later out of nowhere to become a mod.  Rather bizarre.

But anyway, I think you're taking all of this stuff way too personal, including the fits you've been throwing over your picture and real name.  Like I told Gregg last year when we dug up his mug, just go with it, don't make a fuss, and it'll all die down soon enough.  Well, he chose to do the exact opposite, and because of that, it's been a huge running topic and joke ever since.  Unfortunately, you've chosen to follow the same path.  The more you get all excited about this stuff, the more it gets discussed, and the dumber it all looks - on everyone's sides.  So I say just let it go, and hopefully after awhile it'll just die off, and you can enjoy your "hard-earned" new position over at 'Scum to it's fullest...

- Matt
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: JediMAC on November 22, 2004, 03:03 AM
I'm also going to unlock this for a few more minutes, in case LJ wants to add anything else in following my post.  Not fair for me to toss my 2 cents in without giving Bertha an opportunity to reply...


EDIT:  Nevermind.  Looks like she's logged off.

B, if you'd like to add another reply in, LMK and I'll unlock it for you once more...
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: JediMAC on November 22, 2004, 03:21 AM
One last thing I'd like to add, is that I don't think any of us were discussing this matter over here at JD "behind your back", Bertha.  We're just discussing it where we CAN discuss it, that's all.  This conversation wouldn't last more than a few posts over at RS.  Most 'Scummers know about our forum here, and are usually made aware of any "RS drama" going down over here, so it's not like we didn't think anyone would notice this topic.

Most of us were also very well aware that you still had an active account over here at JD, and I've fully expected that you may want to stop by to chime in on the matter, which was going to be perfectly fine with me/us.

And lastly, as you're probably aware, we go on a first name basis most of the time around here at JD, so don't take my using your real name as some kind of insult.  If you don't like your own name, I'm sorry.  Feel free to give us any other name you go by in "real life" then, and I'd be happy to use that instead.  Besides, it's not like you had any say in the matter with your name, right?  That's your parents doing, and I think most of us understand that...

- M
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 03:29 AM
Well since I can respond again, let me do that.

Hmm where to beging. Let me start with the Post Counts. When I was at collectstarwars and then rebelscum, I never cared about the Post Counts and actually got into it with GNT and others who did care. But then I said, to hell with it, you can't beat em, join em. But really what does it matter what I or others do, as long as I am not insulting or degrading another, it shouldn't matter. I mean seriously, JMac, what kind of freakin mensa conversations can you have on a Star Wars board??? Let's not take ourselves too seriously here folks. Like I've said a hundred times, we are all adults, talking about a toy line, mostly based on a movie from 1977. How serious can we take ourselves????

I won't discuss the scum, I'm not here as mod, but as a person who has been made fun of and mocked of in the past. Like I said, let me demonstrate how I handle things over there, give me a shot before you start to degrade without just cuase.

And as far as my "pic" is concerned. I thought by squelching it, It would prevent people from saying it was me, but I was wrong. If you guys think a girl that graduated in 2000 is me, so be it. I can't help it if you guys can't see how illogical that is. You're right, I am letting it die, if it's me, then so be it. But let's use our brains and see if it can really be me???

And while I do have an account here, I barely have time to come due to school and what not. So it isn't out of the question that most scummers don't know what is being said about them. I barely found out tonight!!!

And like I said, you all know my real name, but my main deal is how that guy got that pic. I've typed in my first name, and then added my last name. And the only way to get to that specific pic, is by typing both my first and last name. I think that is a real invasion of privacy, especially if former mods or others gave that info out without my permission!! I mean if he can get that info, what else can he get???

And just call me Lady Jaye, LJ. I mean it's what I like!!! Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Was Hi, now Bye Lady Jaye!!(back to hi again)
Post by: JediMAC on November 22, 2004, 03:40 AM
OK, we've all said our final peace now, so I'll go ahead and lock this back up (and merge it together with the other RS thread as well, just for tidiness  ;))...

But then I said, to hell with it, you can't beat em, join em. But really what does it matter what I or others do, as long as I am not insulting or degrading another, it shouldn't matter. I mean seriously, JMac, what kind of freakin mensa conversations can you have on a Star Wars board???

Well, like we've said numerous times over here, we often pride ourselves and our conversation here at JD (as they similarly do at GH) with "quality" over "quantity", and that just can't be said for the vast majority of discussions at RS.  Sure, we're just talkin' toys, and various other topics, but we'd still prefer it to be a somewhat intelligent, articulate conversation.  Nothing wrong with that really.  Just a difference in styles between our sites.

Anyway, any other further thoughts on this topic between folks can happen via PM now, I suppose.

- Matt

P.S.  You do recall what you said in your very first post over here at JD, right LJ?   ;)
Title: Re: The Scum continues it's downward spiral...
Post by: Lady Jaye on November 22, 2004, 03:46 AM
I think we all believe that as well, but sometimes we shouldn't get too full of ourselves. After all this is Star Wars, not oceanography or stellar astronomy!!!
Title: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 10, 2004, 09:12 PM
Since other 'scum thought threads are a bit off track and not that well titled, thought I would start a new string.

Anyone else getting tired of the ever-diminishing IQ and maturity level in Wuhers over at the 'scum?  I don't know why I keep walking in there these days, although I have a theory it is the same reason you want to stare at a car crash.

I mean, other threads are good, and I still get good tips from the customizing and diorama threads, but.. gosh all heck, Mr. Wizard..Wuhers is a different animal all together.

Your thoughts?  ???
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Bob Crane on December 10, 2004, 09:49 PM
My thoughts? It's difficultm to say, I'm sure boston terriers are pretty smart and all...
(http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0RwDvAkoW6TXxvRBIi5eKM81HXk0Lus6wR8NOp9CPm7oSH9crmvcS4ICvtWI04BGlV7wNVgfJCmyiBCbwl4C6IMidSfD7WTKNIxoa4Y9w0!k/dantedoggie.jpg?dc=4675501094682729052)

...but are they also clairvoyant?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Ook on December 10, 2004, 10:25 PM
It's a dungheap. Wouldn't be so bad if the dungposts were confined to Wuher's, but a couple kids insist on spamming all the figure sections with 2 or 3-word posts ever 30 seconds. It gets to be unreadable. I got myself banned for calling the lead retard, Yoda_Boi, a piece of ****.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 10:38 PM
More imporantly, how did my dog get involved in this?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 10:40 PM
It's a dungheap. Wouldn't be so bad if the dungposts were confined to Wuher's, but a couple kids insist on spamming all the figure sections with 2 or 3-word posts ever 30 seconds. It gets to be unreadable. I got myself banned for calling the lead retard, Yoda_Boi, a piece of ****.

They banned you too eh?

I'm apparently on thin ice now...  so I'm being nice.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 10, 2004, 10:44 PM
Seems to me that there are a number of "well, they hate me under that name so here's a new name" types in there too.  Anyone else pick up on those idiots?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Ook on December 10, 2004, 10:49 PM
Seems to me that there are a number of "well, they hate me under that name so here's a new name" types in there too.  Anyone else pick up on those idiots?
What...?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 10:49 PM
Seems to me that there are a number of "well, they hate me under that name so here's a new name" types in there too.  Anyone else pick up on those idiots?

When you mentioned Dante were you specifically talking about my dog or were you talking about everyone's favorite poet Dante Alighieri?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Ook on December 10, 2004, 10:51 PM
That's a good lookin' mutt. :)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 10:54 PM
Thanks!

I'm still a little confused as to whether or not this thread referenced him directly, or if someone else just happened to connect him to a mention of the poet - and why someone would be using the little guy's picture - beyond the obvious fact that he's adorable.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: The Collector on December 10, 2004, 11:07 PM
It's a dungheap. Wouldn't be so bad if the dungposts were confined to Wuher's, but a couple kids insist on spamming all the figure sections with 2 or 3-word posts ever 30 seconds. It gets to be unreadable. I got myself banned for calling the lead retard, Yoda_Boi, a piece of ****.

They banned you too eh?

I'm apparently on thin ice now...  so I'm being nice.

I thought you were a mod there. What did you do?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 11:09 PM
I was never a mod. 
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: The Collector on December 10, 2004, 11:12 PM
But what did you do to get on the **** list?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Diddly on December 10, 2004, 11:14 PM
We know what you did, Collector... ::)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 10, 2004, 11:16 PM
Probably badmouth Rebelscum over here.

Also, there was a running joke for 20 minutes that I was Carpeteria's dad - in a nonsense thread I made to make fun of two other nonsense threads.

All in all - not very much.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Chris on December 10, 2004, 11:21 PM
But what did you do to get on the **** list?

No bad words.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 10, 2004, 11:27 PM
The string title was a veiled reference to the seven planes of Hell as detailed in the inferno..

Not saying the Wuhers reminds of that...
..or maybe it does..

but all in all..he looks like a nice doggy.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 11, 2004, 01:24 AM
Okay, so now the question is am I gonna get some royalties for use of my dog's image.   8)

Dante Alighieri did infact predict Wuher's -Canto 80 something.  It was somewhere in the 8th circle between the Evil Counselors and the Sowers of Dischord I think.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 11, 2004, 03:39 AM
I gotta dig, but I find a good thread now and again.  I try to be helpful in the customizing area for new people asking Q's too, but that becomes increasingly harder as more of the "kiddies" come in.

Why go?  Eh, good question if it's one you've posed to yourself...  There's better places.  *cough cough*
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 11, 2004, 11:37 AM
Yeah, some guy named JesseJames helped me with some questions regarding knee joints this past week.  He seems like a helpful, nice guy.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 11, 2004, 01:06 PM
Ah yes, the umpteenth "Wuher's is deteriorating" thread.  I've grown used to seeing these about once a month.  Personally, I don't think it's deteriorating.  It's just not getting any better.  It was for awhile, but now it's kind of settling back into the groove.

Someone bumped THIS (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=342458&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#342458)  thread the other day, and before it was locked.....I thought it was pretty funny. It basically complains about the same stuff going on today, but was floating around over a year ago. I can see that I was feeling pretty annoyed by the place and all the post padding.  These days, I just ignore that aspect of it (to the best of my abilities).

I've tried to just sit back and enjoy the ride. I still really like that site, it's still a great place to hang out. I can deal with the occasional speed bump (or a certain new moderator who'd love nothing more than to see me gone). In the end, those few bad things don't outweigh the good.

It's sort of like going downtown.  Sure, you have to put up with the occasional criminal or degenerate who might try to ruin your evening.....but for the most part, all the best stuff is still downtown.  ;D

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Bob Crane on December 11, 2004, 01:17 PM
Okay, so now the question is am I gonna get some royalties for use of my dog's image.   8)


Have you paid your dues Jack?

(http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0QwCz*6cURMVnFKk9dyMAJGeXZBC*d8Y2McSK4mfTeTzp7HyQvsFEicbNU4nOw5wLtKXiDVzVRgwBh4*a1iWJIV8*J*Rnuh*2sycsncL2sFQ/bobbuck.jpg?dc=4675501182114323643)

. . . Yes sir,
the check is in the mail.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 11, 2004, 06:02 PM
I'll let you know when it gets here.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 11, 2004, 06:12 PM

Also, there was a running joke for 20 minutes that I was Carpeteria's dad - in a nonsense thread I made to make fun of two other nonsense threads.


indeed; word to the wise (though it should be painfully obvious): don't start or contribute to any threads in which you attempt to accept parentage of another board member. it is likely you will be considered more trouble than you are worth. nasty letters all around. beware.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Diddly on December 12, 2004, 04:37 PM
Looks like someone bumped up a bunch of 2 year old threads that Virex started.

Hmm.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 12, 2004, 06:55 PM
The latest additions to the asylum..anewman and evilsand..are a parent's wet dream.  They are either highly stupid or members that have been banned. Either way, they only add to the downward spiral. :P
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Diddly on December 12, 2004, 06:57 PM
HOLY CRAP! You're right 506..... those two are something else.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on December 12, 2004, 07:05 PM
Yeah those two people are something else.  I like how everyone jumps on everyone else right now for either bumping up those old threads or jumping on new members who there think are old/banned members of those fourms. 
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 12, 2004, 09:05 PM
In memorium:


Your account has been banned or locked havoc in wuhers 


Race to the finish boys....race to the finish  :'(

Vator

BNT

Eparg

Rotav

anewman


Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: [DSS]Pedr0 on December 12, 2004, 11:56 PM
Now that is pretty lame....  ::)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: The Collector on December 13, 2004, 02:37 AM
Now that is pretty lame....  ::)


I agree. You're not really hurting the administration when you do that. You are annoying the posters and viewers.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: CorranHorn on December 13, 2004, 03:58 AM
Now that is pretty lame....  ::)


I agree. You're not really hurting the administration when you do that. You are annoying the posters and viewers.

thats quite true, but i dont think jedidefender needs to see this kind of stuff occuring here
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 13, 2004, 07:11 AM
Actually, it was a follow up to an expirement I have done there befour. The question again was how would the memebership act towards a newbie with obvious problems, much like the Bangs incident last year.

My hypothesis was that I would be flammed for 'grammer', be called an old memeber, and banned within the day. The expiriment went rather well, in my opinion. I got everything I wanted to know out of it, and it aleviated some boredom.

The Results?
It is conclusive to me that infact Wuhers is unexcepting, paranoid and largley populated and modded by the Extended Learning Time crowd.

My question for an RS moderator is this, had I been a new member, would you really have banned this new member for 'havoc in wuhers'. If so, what justification did you have? I don't think the TOS were violated by the 'new' kid, were they? If so, then wouldn't that just prove that you run a crooked administration?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jeff on December 13, 2004, 10:01 AM
So, were you ALL of those guys that were acting crazy (anewman, evilsith, MrSparkie, yodaboi) or were you just anewman and the rest were actually other people acting crazy?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 13, 2004, 10:12 AM
My hypothesis was that I would be flammed for 'grammer', be called an old memeber, and banned within the day. The expiriment went rather well, in my opinion. I got everything I wanted to know out of it, and it aleviated some boredom.

But you ARE an old member.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 13, 2004, 02:16 PM


I don't think harassing the staff over there is cool, even if you're doing it "for an experiment".  I know I personally had to ban a couple of your accounts at some point and it's a shame to see that all this time later you still think it's funny to start up fake accounts just to go aggravate the staff and members of a site you've been banned from.

It seems sort of petty and childish to me.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 13, 2004, 03:46 PM
I was just anewman, the other people I don't know about.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 13, 2004, 04:22 PM


I don't think harassing the staff over there is cool, even if you're doing it "for an experiment".  I know I personally had to ban a couple of your accounts at some point and it's a shame to see that all this time later you still think it's funny to start up fake accounts just to go aggravate the staff and members of a site you've been banned from.

It seems sort of petty and childish to me.



What he said.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 12:50 AM
i agree as well. i can't believe anyone has the kind of time to do something like that. i certainly wouldn't - i wouldn't want to get tossed off. i shudder to think what could be worse than watto's and wuher's.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 14, 2004, 03:47 PM
I really wouldn't say it was a big time consumer...it wasn't. Only about 20 minuets in all.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 04:28 PM
i agree as well. i can't believe anyone has the kind of time to do something like that. i certainly wouldn't - i wouldn't want to get tossed off. i shudder to think what could be worse than watto's and wuher's.

Agreed - I'm afraid to even think about it.  Lord knows it's probably nothing but trouble.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 14, 2004, 04:49 PM
Something worse than Watto's and Wuher's? No way.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 14, 2004, 05:22 PM
This is suddenly quite funny.   :P
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 14, 2004, 05:27 PM
Any idea on who RS member "Redhawk" is?  And why he seems like such a moron?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 06:02 PM
i assumed redhawk was just another brilliant RS user like windu or yodaboi. i don't get why everyone is all over the new people lately (except for anewman, for obvious reasons).
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 06:11 PM
I can't imagine what will happen when we get really close to E3 and there are 500 new highschool kids signing up - that place will implode.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 14, 2004, 06:35 PM
You mean something like this????

http://www.redlipstick.net/knotroom/implosion.html
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 07:32 PM
hmmm... perhaps...
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 09:11 PM
You mean something like this????

http://www.redlipstick.net/knotroom/implosion.html

Precisely.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 14, 2004, 09:28 PM
I can't imagine what will happen when we get really close to E3 and there are 500 new highschool kids signing up - that place will implode.

We'll just send a bunch of them over here!!!!!!!!  :P :o ;D
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 14, 2004, 09:37 PM
I'm going to clear up some apparant misconceptions where people totally misinterpreted what I said. (Surprise, surprise!)

* Not once did I blame this site for Redhawk's actions. NOT ONCE! I asked, which was an open invite for JD to clear their name, if Redhawk was another one of their known members, conducting some assinine "test" on the Rebelscum moderators.

Automatically, you people assumed I SAID it was you, when I didn't, again, I only asked for a straight forward response.

* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

Anyone wish to claim responsibility for that? Zack's avatar, before being deleted, was of KBZ's "Party Monster" avatar of Wilson Cruz, with GNT's face superimposed on it, and I know photoshopping Greg's face on images is an immature passtime here. Again, I am only asking. NOBODY is laying blame. There's just a few outstanding circumstances that make the accusations all the more suspect.

So, as I said before, nobody is blaming anyone. I merely asked, and you took it wrong. I appreciate the apology for Andrews actions, and I think one is in order to ME for misintepreting what I merely ASKED and not IMPLIED.

Complain about the state of Rebelscum's forums, revel in your "Cheers" atmosphere, but in the future, keep a tighter leash on your problem members, so they don't drag your name through the mud.


P.S. Matt, if you ever address me again, I'd appreciate it if you didn't do it in 2nd person. I was in the thread, and the way I was referred to, I felt, was quite condescending.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 09:44 PM
of KBZ's "Party Monster" avatar of Wilson Cruz, with GNT's face superimposed on it, and I know photoshopping Greg's face on images is an immature passtime here.

That picture doesn't contain one single solitary pixel of Greg(g)'s face.  Not a one.

I can't decide whether it's an insult, or a great compliment that you thought it did.

Man, message board drama cracks me up though...
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 14, 2004, 09:48 PM
Oh oh, here we go again.

Let's get it on!!!!
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 14, 2004, 09:56 PM

That picture doesn't contain one single solitary pixel of Greg(g)'s face.  Not a one.

No,  Rob. "Zack Attack" had an avatar for all of 5 minutes before taking it down after his post in Darth_Darth's "I'm Sorry" thread.
It was an altered version of your avatar.

I can also tell you it was painted all black around both sides of the hat, and Gregg's face was on it. It was hosted by a remote image hosting site, www.imgbucket.com.

Personally, all I want is for there not to be any reason to speculate, and I appreciate everyone here actually being opposed to Vator's experiments.

Vator, your "tests" only re-stated the obvious. By way of being an banned Rebelscum member, and supposed faithful JD supporter, you are more or less representing this site as a whole. Don't force the staff to clean up after you for something so trivial as the moderation on a board, especially on a Sunday night, when most people are getting ready for work the next day.

I'm not apologizing, as I haven't done anything wrong, but I am sorry that people mistook my questions for direct accusations. It's the story of my life, being misunderstood, so I'm used to it by now.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Chris on December 14, 2004, 10:16 PM
I'm annoyed by this thread. People who whine are annoying, and this thread has some whining. Because a member of my site posts something at another site, it does nothing in regards to this websites name. They are not endorsed by JediDefender so it is not an issue. Wuhers is a stupid mess, we all know that. Oh well. Don't like it- don't go there. We don't "test" or care to "test" the moderators at Scum, their actions speak for themselves, and it is not even like I or even "we" CARE. It is a different site and it doesn't affect what goes on here. They do plenty right and that is why they are still around. We do quite a bit right as well and people choose to come here. It all comes down to a personal preference. I don't mind if you point out something specific from Wuhers that is especially stupid or laughworthy, but to just whine on and on.... enough is enough guys...

I don't feel like locking this, you can finish out the "battle" and then let it go. I expect this thread to die down on its own after a while, don't make a moderator lock it.  :-*
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 14, 2004, 10:20 PM
Cine,

I in no way represent Jedidefender and do not wish to have my personal actions linked to the site. If they are viewed as such there is nothing I can do to help that. If so I would like to apologise to the site. It was never my intention to do so.


and to the rest of the Rebelscum memebers,

It would seem asthough my actions have lead to suspicion of others at this site in a small degree. While I do know of other people who have flammed RS who are memebers here, know this, it is not on the behalf of JD but on the behalf of the idividual.

To the rest,

Please except my sincerest apologies. It will not happen again, and I apologise for any inter-fourm animosity that may have been renewed as a result of my actions.



Edit: As Chris said. I did what I did on my own, and did not seek credit for it. While I can understand how my 'In memorium' could have been seen as credit seeking it was not. It was a joke and nothing more.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Scott on December 14, 2004, 10:24 PM
Don't worry about it Andrew
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 10:25 PM
i think you've maybe watched one too many detective movies, man. you also claimed that darth darth is virex, right?

you also say that the staff has to "clean up" after whatever these people are doing - why? why do they have to clean up anything? hitting the lock button is difficult? it looked like the threads that got "attacked" were pretty stupid in the first place and would have headed towards the lock eventually. are these people threatening anyone? harassing them? i don't get it.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 14, 2004, 10:26 PM
Quote
* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.


I still think it's irrelevant.  So what if Redhawk is a banned RS member that JD allows to be a member over here?  Should JD refuse ALL banned RS members?  Although I'm tempted to say yes, I realize that these days it's a lot easier to get banned from that site.....and someday I could find myself in that same boat for nothing more than a simple joke.

So does JD itself need to feel responsible because one of their several hundred members is posting with socks on over at RS? I don't think so.  If that person had a thread over here saying "Hey, watch me F with Rebelscum" that would be one thing.....but there is no such thread.  The stupidity this guy is creating is not "Endorsed' By JD as far as I can tell.


Here's where JD's responsiblity for this whole thing lies.  If "Redhawk" were posting that kind of garbage over here and the mods were leaving him alone, I could see JD's name getting soiled a bit.  But that's not happening here.

After all, this is supposed to be a more "mature" community. In many ways, it is.....although I attribute a lot of that to the size of this place.

If JD ever gets the membership RS has, it'll be intersting to see how this site will deal with the Durges, Yoda Bois and other post whoring clowns who spend all day typing senselesss replies to everything because they enjoy nothing more than seeing their name at the top of every topic.  

I wonder....would this site entertain people that like to post a sentence and a smiley face if a sudden massive influx of them came pouring in? Or would they be quickly excommunicated one by one? COULD they?

What about the folks like Redhawk who post silly threads simply to see what kind of a little **** storm they can start on the boards?  What should be done about them?

While I have more respect for the latter than the former.....they're both just the same stereotypical characters you meet on any message board. There's always going to be some 12 year old post whore, there's always going to be some person who thinks they're witty when they post threads mocking the board they're members of......and there are always going to be guys like me who complain about the other guys.

Luckily, this is a smaller community, so the problems are easier to spot....but over at RS, it's up to the members to point out clowns like Redhawk....so the mods can keep an eye on them in case they ever decide to become more of a problem than just posting an annoying topic or two.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 14, 2004, 10:34 PM

you also say that the staff has to "clean up" after whatever these people are doing - why?

I didn't say they had to? Boy, you guys are on a roll. JediMAC was literally forced to take the blame for Vator. That's what I was implying, not that my implications ever come across as they do to everyone else.

You know, whatever guys. Redhawk isn't with JD, and Vator made a bad decision.

It's just a little suspicious, given the recent flurry of activity that points right back here, and the anti-RS sentiment that gets it's own thread every week here.

Apology accepted.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 14, 2004, 10:36 PM
Can I flip the script (as the kids say) for a second?

If a Rebelscum (current or banned) member does or says something on this site that isn't appropriate....is Rebelscum somehow responsible for that person too?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 14, 2004, 10:43 PM
It's just a little suspicious, given the recent flurry of activity that points right back here

Yeah - but it's not like this is some type of secret meeting ground where disgruntled RS members get together to wage war on Wuher's.  That would just be silly.  This is as public a forum as Rebelscum is. 

Trolls are trolls - odds are they're on their own.  If they're organized somehow, I'm impressed - but unless they're doing it through PM, it's got very little to do with Jedi Defender - aside from the fact that some people here probably share the sentiment. 
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 10:45 PM
Don't force the staff to clean up after you for something so trivial as the moderation on a board, especially on a Sunday night, when most people are getting ready for work the next day.

yeah, i don't know why i would think you said that about cleaning things up.

Quote
If they're organized somehow, I'm impressed.

i'd be impressed, too.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 14, 2004, 10:52 PM
Well given the fact that three of them appeared in a one week period, something has to be going on. But that is their own deal, nothing really affiliated with JD
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Vator on December 14, 2004, 10:54 PM
Well the last 'organised' thing that I've seen happened over the summer. Whether something is going on now or not is unknown.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Stim on December 14, 2004, 11:18 PM
Remember when we all got along and collected Jango Fett memorabilia?  Man, those were the days.

Oh, wait.  We never all got along.  And only one of us ever really collected Jango Fett memorabilia.

Still.  Good times, eh?

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 14, 2004, 11:37 PM
Hey...I collect Jango Fett stuff (as I believe do the majority of collectors out there).

I just don't collect it EXCLUSIVELY.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 14, 2004, 11:43 PM

you also say that the staff has to "clean up" after whatever these people are doing - why?

Don't force the staff to clean up after you for something so trivial as the moderation on a board, especially on a Sunday night, when most people are getting ready for work the next day.

yeah, i don't know why i would think you said that about cleaning things up.


I did, but I didn't say they HAD to. You implied I did, making it a requirement. Actually, I said "forced", because Vator made it a non-obligational apology, see "necessarily issued on his behalf".

There's a big difference.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: C on December 14, 2004, 11:47 PM
ok, nice work, mr. semantics. my point was in asking WHY anyone should have to "CLEAN UP" anything. i wasn't accusing you of anything directly, it was a general question in reference to your statement that "SOMETHING" had to be "CLEANED UP." i wondered why a cleaning was necessary. that's it.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: jokabofe on December 15, 2004, 12:16 AM
Complain about the state of Rebelscum's forums, revel in your "Cheers" atmosphere, but in the future, keep a tighter leash on your problem members, so they don't drag your name through the mud.

And which Rebelscum administrator/moderator are you?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: jjks on December 15, 2004, 12:55 AM
Crap like this really makes me miss Virex. He'd be having a field day with all this drama.  :-[
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2004, 01:09 AM
What did happen to the ol charmer Virex?????
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 01:20 AM
And which Rebelscum administrator/moderator are you?

That would be Cory/Jango Fettish/Junkyard Junkie/Cinemaddiction, etc.

So Cory, pray tell, who besides Andrew are you guys having an issue with?  We've already been accused of unleashing "Durge" on you, which is obviously ridiculous, since he's an RS member, and has been banned here each and every time he's signed up.

As for Virex, he left a while ago.  I think he died, or something.  So anyone accusing us us of that association is wrong as well.  But please, keep trying...  Anyone else?   ::)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 01:23 AM
* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

Cory, for the last time, Darth_Darth has nothing to do with JD, so shut the **** up about that bull****.  Seriously.  YOU ARE WRONG.  Now let it go.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: CorranHorn on December 15, 2004, 01:24 AM
it's been quite entertaining to read this ****** mess of a soap opera, and I was going to keep quiet on it, because really there wasn't anything particular that caused this to start unlike other scum-related threads here at JD. but I did want to point out something.....

Well given the fact that three of them appeared in a one week period, something has to be going on. But that is their own deal, nothing really affiliated with JD

hasn't that kind of stuff happened a lot on scum over the years? a couple of assclowns posting ridiculous ****, trying to get noticed or just making a nuisance of themselves? clearly what occured isn't an isolated incident and has happened often since scum's forums went up approx. 3 years ago, yet doesn't seem to occur at any of the other major message boards (with the exceptions liekly being SSG and TFN but then again only tards go there  :P) such as the original BHC at CSW, GH, JD, DSP, Jawa, etc. as much as one should ask why these people feel its necessary to waste their time doing such stupid ****, it should be considered what has rebelscum done or allowed to be done that lends itself to such stupid **** happening there.

some food for thought.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 01:29 AM
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P.S. Matt, if you ever address me again, I'd appreciate it if you didn't do it in 2nd person. I was in the thread, and the way I was referred to, I felt, was quite condescending.

WHAT?!  Since when are there rules about how we're to address people in threads?  So I should've just been saying "you" in that whole thread, so no one knew who the hell I was talking about?!  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense...

And I was addressing you specifically, but others there generally, so forgive me if I typed your freaking name out there.  That's ridiculous.

Also, you keep throwing KBZ's name around.  Is Rob not also a member of RS?  Why does something to do with Rob equate to having something to do with JD?  You don't think there's people at RS who are unhappy with RS?  ****.  Get real, man.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 01:44 AM
One last thing, since I'm so fired up about this crap right now...

Vator, KBZ, Virex, and any other number of members who may be on your suspicious list are all also members of Galactic Hunter.  So how 'bout you go over there and blame them.

Just 'cause we have an RS bashing thread pop up here every month or two, does NOT mean we're all over at RS as trolling, spamming socks.  RS has more than enough of those on their own.

As I've already mentioned to several folks, JD is the only place where RS can be discussed.  You definitely can't discuss RS at RS, if you want to stick around there.  So people come here to discuss their "issues" with it.

And I'd bet you a million freaking dollars that's what cost Rob the moderator gig over there, unfortunately.  He would've been a good one, but 'cause he made mention of a few things here, he got the shaft.  That's my educated opinion anyway.  There's really no other potential reason for him not getting the gig.

We were all at RS at one point or another, so it's pretty much equivalent to keeping tabs on and talking about an ex-girlfriend or something.  You're always still interested in knowing what's going on with them.  So we talk about it here.  Big freakin' deal.  People need to vent sometimes...

Like I'm doing right now.   :-X

- M
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Ook on December 15, 2004, 01:56 AM
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Title: Are the RS forums down?
Post by: The Collector on December 15, 2004, 02:00 AM
Or is it just my browser?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 02:01 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Furious-George/ShutUp.jpg)

This one's for a couple of ya...

More soon when I can formulate something a little more clear and maybe even a substantial bit more blunt.
Title: Re: Are the RS forums down?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 02:01 AM
They're down...  It's a JD.com conspiracy from what I heard.  ::)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2004, 02:03 AM
You go ahead and vent JediMac, let it all out!!! ;D

Oh and that was funny Jesse James!!!
Title: Re: Are the RS forums down?
Post by: Lady Jaye on December 15, 2004, 02:04 AM
A C.O.N. Spiracy!!! I tell youse!!!
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 02:12 AM
Since we've already got an RS thread going here, I'm merging the "Are their forums down?" thread in here.

Yes, they were down for a bit.  But now they're back up.

Scratch that.  They're still down.  They just got their main page back up, was all.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 15, 2004, 02:12 AM
ok, nice work, mr. semantics. my point was in asking WHY anyone should have to "CLEAN UP" anything. i wasn't accusing you of anything directly, it was a general question in reference to your statement that "SOMETHING" had to be "CLEANED UP." i wondered why a cleaning was necessary. that's it.

Ask Matt. He felt compelled to apologize. The smart thing would to have not "conducted" this little experiment to begin with. Did you, or anyone else for that matter, current Scummers included, really need a "test" to show that the moderators are lax at times?


And which Rebelscum administrator/moderator are you?
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I'm not any moderator, just someone who's looking out for this sites best interests, and feels as if that piece of advice is worth heeding, if you want to keep your squeaky clean image.

Is that so wrong? I don't have a hidden agenda.


So Cory, pray tell, who besides Andrew are you guys having an issue with?  We've already been accused of unleashing "Durge" on you, which is obviously ridiculous, since he's an RS member, and has been banned here each and every time he's signed up.


Just Andrew. I didn't pin any other potential saboteurs to this site. Why nobody is fessing up to "Zack Attack" from either here or Rebelscum is beyond me. Anonymity is a great cloak for cowards.

* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

Cory, for the last time, Darth_Darth has nothing to do with JD, so shut the **** up about that ********.  Seriously.  YOU ARE WRONG.  Now let it go.

Had I ever claimed that "Darth Darth" originated from Jedi Defender, we'd have something worth discussing. That said, "Zack Attack", bearing an avatar that A) was modified from KBZ's JD avatar, B) Had Gregg's face superimposed on it, and C) was conveniently hosted on a untraceable image server just all kind of leans towards someone from this site.  Maybe it was a Rebelscum user out to sabotage Jedi Defender! I don't know? Nobody has bothered going into it, much less acknowledging the situation aside from me.

Am I so wrong? Have you guys not superimposed Gregg's face on photos numerous times? Does' KBZ's avatar not feature Wilson Cruz from "Party Monster". I wish I would have saved the avatar, but, it dissappearing as soon as it was posted just adds to the mystique of "Zack Attack".


WHAT?!  Since when are there rules about how we're to address people in threads?  So I should've just been saying "you" in that whole thread, so no one knew who the hell I was talking about?!  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense...

Also, you keep throwing KBZ's name around.  Is Rob not also a member of RS?  Why does something to do with Rob equate to having something to do with JD?  You don't think there's people at RS who are unhappy with RS?  ****.  Get real, man.

Use the quotes to address me directly. You came off as if you were fingering me out of some flippin' police line-up, as if *I* did something wrong, and *I* was the one who's suspect.

I use Rob's name, again, because it was his avatar that was modified and used by "Zack Attack", bearing GNT's likeness.

I could raise a stink about a post about a user in the Rebelscum DVD Thread that attack my movie tastes about 3 weeks ago by the name of NEXT_SEASON, which just so happens to be Rob's AOL E-Mail address, save a few X's. I'm not going to, because I know him better than that for one, and two, it's not plausible, just coincidental.

You people need to stop and listen to what I have to say. It's ludicrous that I have to go through every post calling me out to clarify what is incredibly apparent. It's nothing new. It's as if were back at RS. Nobody bothered to try and understand me then, either.

Just..STOP! Don't make stupid decisions.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JoshEEE on December 15, 2004, 02:24 AM
Man, there's enough drama now in this thread for an entire sorority meeting.


I;d like to fuel the conspiracy/argument/bitchfest/witch hunting fire by confessing that tonight I created 14 fake accounts on JD. Over the next several weeks, I plan to unleash a "Rebelscum" test of the moderation here, by posting such wonderful topics as:

Spa or Hot Tub: What do YOU call it?

Best ways to get rid of dandruff?

I found a nickel on the ground today!

Who was the Hottest "Facts of Life" girl?

I farted at my office holiday party. Suggestions for Monday?

What should I buy the "Will work for food" guy at the end of my freeway on-ramp for Christmas?

Cheerios are Good

Which Ninja Turtles movie did you like best?

And of course:

Visit my new website about Starr Wars figurs.


Of course, that would be an incredibly lame idea (on any site) so I'll probably refrain from doing any of what I just said.  ;D
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 02:34 AM
Sounds like you should just have a discussion with Rob then, Cory.  Can I say your name like that?  You've got me all confused now on how I'm supposed to address you.  Sir?  Does that work better?  Whatever the hell you want to be called, just LMK.  All this grammatical, quotes, second person bull**** is way over my head, man.

As for photoshopping Gregg's noggin anywhere, the JD staff here absolutely SUCKS at that stuff.  We can't photoshop **** to save our ass.  Seriously.  So that bull**** has nothing to do with us either.  Scott painted a mustache, very primatively, on GNT's face once - that much I remember.

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* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

To me, this very much suggests you're affiliating Darth Darth with us.  I don't even know who the **** Zack Attack is, but that's not a JD thing either, Mr. Detective.  Sir.  And I "can't go into something" that I know nothing about.  So if you're expecting some kind of admission from someone here that they're Darth, or Zack, or Kanos, or YodaBoi, or Killer, or Windu, or Redhawk, or any other number of stupid ***** over there, I highly doubt you're gonna get it.

As for someone attacking you in the DVD thread, well ****, something like that is an absolute no-brainer really.  EVERYONE attacks your movie tastes.  Openly.  RS members, JD members, etc.  If someone says some **** to you there about your movie tastes, that very well could be an RS member, so get over yourself, Sir.

Or are you now suggesting there's a JD/Cory conspiracy in addition to the supposed JD/RS one?!  ****.  Please.


- Sorority President out.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 02:50 AM
The only one who would've lead anything remotely close to that is sadly gone...  Like jjks said though, he'd probably be having the most fun in this thead right now.

The short of it is (and I'm keeping my comments much more brief than I'd originally planned on, for many of you), there's no conspiracy that has anything REMOTELY to do with JD.com as an entity.

If it's members from here, the site and its staff don't have a clue about it...  If they do, I say they need to just come here and be constructive than go there and jerk off RS's staff or generally piss you off Cory, but that's me...  They either A) Don't like you, or B) don't like Rebelscum, or C) don't like either of you...  I'd say that doesn't equate to JACK **** with Jedi Defender as far as responsibility goes though...  Our name shouldn't be uttered then.

There's no brilliant revelations coming from this thread, other than there's a LOT of people here who left (or were forced away) from Rebelscum...  Some want payback maybe?  I don't know, and honestly I don't care, but it's got nothing to do with this site since we'd not allow it or condone it.

My parting words are that if it's that big a deal, handle your business at your site (This is addressed to any Scum Mods who ARE here) and not out in OUR public forum.  And if it's a personal beef at another site, then take it up with their staff at their site...

We've got nothing to do with it, so drop it.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: jjks on December 15, 2004, 04:07 AM
I like how you can only be associated with one site, regardless of how many you may belong to and are active at. I guess it's kind of like racial profiling, only star wars board profiling. "This guy's a dick that said mean things about me, so he's gotta be from JD".

Where do I fit in Cory? I'm as old school as they come, does that mean I'm really a Scum guy visiting JD, or am I a JD guy that stops in at Scum to view the trainwreck and learn what movies to avoid. Or wait, I post at GH too, and used to be big at SSG, what the hell am I???

 I'm still confused with where to group you in at: first you were on the 'Scum, then there was some suspension, then you were putting out the Jargon here, then you left here, then you went back to 'Scum, then I think you left again, somewhere in there you sold all your ****, then you came back with a renewed love for cinema, then you left again because you were "misunderstood", then you dropped a bunch of lbs and came back again (but only in the DVD thread), now you're totally back and playing moderator.


I'm so confused....should we not question your commitment to 'Scum? Seems like you bail on them a whole lot  :'(
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 04:19 AM
Exactly Jamie, and that's exactly part of the point I was trying to make (though you said it better).  How are all these "suspicious members" becoming the sole, exclusive property of JD, when in actuality, they're members of ALL the different SW collecting boards.  I keep seeing Rob's name thrown around, since Cory's obsessed with some avatar he saw, or something.  Wasn't Rob just up for a mod job at RS?  Since he didn't get it, does that mean he's been banished from over there, so there's gotta be an unscrupulous JD connection with him now, of some sort?

What if Rob DID get the mod job over there last month?  Then how would these accusations be going?  Still directed at JD?  And I'm not laying any blame on Rob for anything of course, just using him as an example since he's a member at both sites, and apparently had some brief avatar similarity with some Zack dude.

Jamie, I think if you piss anyone off at RS, then you'd qualify as a JD insurgent.  Otherwise, you're just another regular disgruntled member over there, I guess...
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: CorranHorn on December 15, 2004, 04:38 AM
the thing I don't get Matt, which I mentioned in my last post, but probably didn't get notice, is how can anyone believe this kind of stuff is all new to scum? this kind of stuff has been happening for a long long time, yet because some JD members happen to overtly exclaim their distaste for the scum, it must be some damn conspiracy of epic proportions.

it would behoove the people at scum to look into ways to improve their forums, especially coming into the time of Episode 3 when they will surely be getting an influx of new members (good and bad), so the problems they do have disappear and that may lead to less occurrences of the situation(s) that occurred in the last couple of days. if they did that instead of worrying about what is being said at JD, they would surely be better off. then again there's always some idiot out there just waiting to waste away time on spamming and causing ****.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 04:42 AM
Where do I fit?  I go to Scum still to stay active in threads that aren't cluttered with severe internet retardation...  They're few and far between, but I try seeking them out.

:)  

I know, I know...  I work here...  I gotta be a JD Terrorist.

Nonetheless though, I think the point's been made, as solid as my last bowel movement, that there's just a LOT of folks who've been PO'd at Scum for one reason or another...  Many of them wind up here, and I'd like to point out that they behave here too mostly (so as not to tarnish them like they're uncontrollable little kids like Lady Jaye seemed to imply with her "send them here" remark)...  This isn't the castaways or something.  Vator's a good, active participant here...

Was he at Scum?  They felt not, but he is here...  He just hates it over there I guess.  They gotta go somewhere though, and that doesn't mean that this site's supporting an "assault" on Scum...  It's a place they can vent if they want since it's likely their venting that got them banned there.  

If they wanna do stuff to Scum, as I said, that's Scum's problem to deal with at THEIR site, not here...  No conspiracy, no great investigation.  

This thread, when I got to read it after being out this evening, truly is one of the dumbest things I've read in ages...  What it's degenerated into is a level of nerdiness unsurpassed in the history of dorkdome.

Be proud folks.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 04:47 AM
...if they did that instead of worrying about what is being said at JD, they would surely be better off.

Hell, if they just read the stuff that was being said about them here at JD, they'd probably be able to fix the problems that are happening over there.  We give them all kinds of tips on it all the time.  It's instand feedback, but they tend to ignore us as much as Hasbro does!   ::)

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then again there's always some idiot out there just waiting to waste away time on spamming and causing ****.

Don't call Cory an idiot, Jason.  He's just highly inquisitive, that's all.   :P

As for your original point there, yeah, I agree with that as well.  Just fealt that was even more obvious than what Jamie was getting at.  Odd that they don't seem to notice it though, until Andrew announces he just ran over there to goof around a bit with their mods...  There's been all kinds of goofs jumping on their boards this year, and in years past.  Nothing new in the slightest...   :-\
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 04:47 AM
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how can anyone believe this kind of stuff is all new to scum? this kind of stuff has been happening for a long long time, yet because some JD members happen to overtly exclaim their distaste for the scum, it must be some damn conspiracy of epic proportions.

Exactly...

And it's not like there aren't means to deal with it.  But this isn't the harbor with which these ideas are launched.  Like I said, Vator's a good member here, so that's all that is to be said.

If he's got a beef, he's got a beef...  Like it or hate it, it has nothing to do with here.  And I'm sure he's one of only many who feel they were treated like crap at Scum while there's tons of "problems" there wandering around, posting freely every day...

To me, I go there and ignore them...  I've made a crack now and then, but nothing anyone even reacts to, and nothing insulting.  Otherwise I go watch/participate in what I want, just as I do over here at JD.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Xander on December 15, 2004, 08:55 AM
This thread...  a level of nerdiness unsurpassed in the history of dorkdome.

Be proud folks.

I know, and I can't stop reading!

I will say that I've been around long enough to know that none of this is new.  There's always been a rash of spam over there, and usually it's been a lot worse than the most recent case.  Crazy threads popping up for no reason.  Only it used to seem like people had more of a sense of humor about it.  They could laugh and roll their eyes at some, and then ignore them. Some were locked. Ignore the trolls and they go away.  There was a less fierce outcry and exaggerated consternation and more of a realization that trolls will be trolls.

The way all this is handled is what separates the two sites.  I'm glad here everyone can actually talk, and provide much entertainment.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2004, 10:14 AM
3 mouse clicks and anyone who wants to can save my avatar.

Beyond that, in some thread around here is the entire image, which I repost here because it is a masterpiece:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Misc/Wings_Gregg.jpg)

In any event.  It had nothing to do with me beyond my original photoshop job - and that's the absolute frickin' end of it.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 15, 2004, 12:14 PM

In any event.  It had nothing to do with me beyond my original photoshop job - and that's the absolute frickin' end of it.

Your involvement isn't in question, Rob. It never was, if anything, you were victimized. Which reminds me, the name of the image used was "greggg.jpg", with three G's. Anyone here spell his name, in light, like so?

As for photoshopping Gregg's noggin anywhere, the JD staff here absolutely SUCKS at that stuff.  We can't photoshop **** to save our ass.  Seriously.  So that ******** has nothing to do with us either.

I never claimed it was a staff member. However, smileyfaceguy, the same smileyfaceguy who openly admitted that he was going to start a "Philip Wise is Dead" thread to see how it would "go over" did infact make this, no?

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/268293/teamgnt.jpg)

So, not only did Vator "test" us, you've got Smileyfaceguy who was/is a problem member here too, who was either banned or deleted himself, doing the same thing, looking to get a rise out of Rebelscum.

I have yet to blame Jedi Defender for these ridiculous "tests", it's that you're knowingly harbouring members that are obviously troubled, and are making you look bad. You keeping them registered here is up to you.

I guess it's just absolute sheer coincidence that Smiley came right out with his intentions to start what was obviously a problematic thread, knowing the consequences, Vator followed suit, a user pops up to clear the name of a poster who was obviously spamming the boards, bearing a modified avatar from this site, while we're dealing with Redhawk and Durge flip-flopping.

See where it gets frustrating?

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* While Josh claims that Redhawk's possible orientation here was irrelevant, it isn't, especially in the wake of Vator's actions, and the "Darth_Darth"/"Zack Attack" conundrum.

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I don't even know who the **** Zack Attack is, but that's not a JD thing either, Mr. Detective.  Sir.  And I "can't go into something" that I know nothing about.

If you don't know anything about it, then you have no basis on which to claim it being the work of a JD member or not? Do you? Signs, being the avatar, which nobody but myself saw, being the last person to post in that thread before it's closure,point right back here. Weither it did originate from here or not is pure speculation, with which I have the upper hand being an eyewitness.

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As for someone attacking you in the DVD thread, well ****, something like that is an absolute no-brainer really.  EVERYONE attacks your movie tastes.  Openly.  RS members, JD members, etc.  If someone says some **** to you there about your movie tastes, that very well could be an RS member, so get over yourself, Sir.

..and those people are a bunch of goddamn immature nits that can't grasp the concept of personal subjectivity, much less respect. It has nothing to do with "conceit", as there's nothing to "get over". You've been surprisingly unprofessional, not to mention increasingly immature in this subject.

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Or are you now suggesting there's a JD/Cory conspiracy in addition to the supposed JD/RS one?!  ****.  Please.

Nope. Are you?

I like how you can only be associated with one site, regardless of how many you may belong to and are active at. I guess it's kind of like racial profiling, only star wars board profiling. "This guy's a dick that said mean things about me, so he's gotta be from JD".

Are you ignoring the circumstances under which I made the ASSUMPTION, not association.

* Smileyfaceguy's open intention to smear RS.

* Vator's open intention to "test" RS.

* Zack Attack's GNT/KBZ altered avatar.

* The "angry" ex-communicated RS members coming over here, and how they gave even YOU people trouble?

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Where do I fit in Cory? I'm as old school as they come, does that mean I'm really a Scum guy visiting JD, or am I a JD guy that stops in at Scum to view the trainwreck and learn what movies to avoid. Or wait, I post at GH too, and used to be big at SSG, what the hell am I???

Goes right back to the avatar, and the fact that users here's intentions were made public and you let it happen. If you say there's no grudge, why not let Philip know it was going to happen? If you're going to whine and bitch about the state of the RS forums, why allow your members to openly "test" RS? The irony of the whole situation is so sweet, given all the ass-sore ex-scummers that gripe about the forums all the time.

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I'm still confused with where to group you in at: first you were on the 'Scum, then there was some suspension, then you were putting out the Jargon here, then you left here, then you went back to 'Scum, then I think you left again, somewhere in there you sold all your ****, then you came back with a renewed love for cinema, then you left again because you were "misunderstood", then you dropped a bunch of lbs and came back again (but only in the DVD thread), now you're totally back and playing moderator.

I joined Rebelscum in 11/01, I'm a Rebelscum member through and through. I joined JediDefender under the pretense I'd be a contributing writer. I did, I was, I quit collecting, I wrote a little bit after collecting, I got disrespected by the staff even as a staff member, and users, and left. I've been back here trying to enjoy myself a few times, but the problem areas still remained until now, not that I'd consider posting here after this fracas.

You don't have to quote misunderstood either because it is what it is, and this entire thread is a prime example of people misinterpreting what I say, twisting the words that subsequently get put back in my mouth, all for the sake of hating me, and for what reason?

It's the same for the movies/DVD threads. "Cory didn't like it, so I know I'll love it." It's bull****. You people, and you know who the **** you are never even bother looking for our similarities, because it's too much fun being different, giving you a whole 'nother reason to dislike me. More things to hold over my head when you feel the need to stroke your ego. Superior movie tastes? Please. If we do share something in common, it's like the apocalypse to you? It's a SURPRISE because you NEVER bothered venturing into similarities. Why you actively seek out reasons to dislike me is on you. I've always been open with my feelings, opinions, likes, and dislikes. It won't ever stop.

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I'm so confused....should we not question your commitment to 'Scum? Seems like you bail on them a whole lot  :'(

I've never asked for my username to be deleted from Rebelscum. I took time off for personal reasons, granted.

You guys keep asking what the connection is, read what I have been saying and then tell me if I'm not right in my speculation? Again, I have yet to lay blame. Only assume, given some overwhelming cicrumstances.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 12:51 PM
Cory, here's an idea:  Shut the **** up.

You're making a fool of yourself (as am I at this point, for letting your psychobabble annoy me so much), and 3/4ths of the **** you're saying makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever.  Just go watch some more crime dramas from your DVD collection, and stop trying to re-enact them here in the forums.

Damn.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: hansolo_506 on December 15, 2004, 12:56 PM
Joshee... sounds like a lot of time and effort.. here...I will save you some trouble by posting my replies here:::

Spa or Hot Tub: What do YOU call it?
         HOT TUB

Best ways to get rid of dandruff?
         BACK WHEN I HAD IT, I USED TEGRIN..HAS NEVER RETURNED.

I found a nickel on the ground today!
         CONGRATS. WAS IT FACE UP?

Who was the Hottest "Facts of Life" girl?
         TWO POSSIBILITIES - EITHER OLDER TOOTIE OR THIN BLAIR.

I farted at my office holiday party. Suggestions for Monday?
         TAKE YOUR DOG TO THE OFFICE ON MONDAY AND BLAME IT ON HIM.

What should I buy the "Will work for food" guy at the end of my freeway on-ramp for Christmas?
         WARM GLOVES AND A NEW COAT.

Cheerios are Good
         CLICHE FG REFERENCE ADDED HERE : "PETER, THOSE ARE CHEERIOS."

Which Ninja Turtles movie did you like best?
         MICHAELANGELO, OF COURSE..DUH.

And of course:

Visit my new website about Starr Wars figurs.
         NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE CHEAP PRICES ON EARLY RUN CANTINA FIGURES.


You're welcome.

Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 15, 2004, 01:04 PM
I'm annoyed by this thread. People who whine are annoying, and this thread has some whining. Because a member of my site posts something at another site, it does nothing in regards to this websites name. They are not endorsed by JediDefender so it is not an issue. Wuhers is a stupid mess, we all know that. Oh well. Don't like it- don't go there. We don't "test" or care to "test" the moderators at Scum, their actions speak for themselves, and it is not even like I or even "we" CARE. It is a different site and it doesn't affect what goes on here. They do plenty right and that is why they are still around. We do quite a bit right as well and people choose to come here. It all comes down to a personal preference. I don't mind if you point out something specific from Wuhers that is especially stupid or laughworthy, but to just whine on and on.... enough is enough guys...

I don't feel like locking this, you can finish out the "battle" and then let it go. I expect this thread to die down on its own after a while, don't make a moderator lock it.  :-*

I concur, enough is enough!  So it will be done! 

If anyone has anything to say, I suggest taking it to an email or a PM. I'm all ears!

On that note, this thread is locked! 
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 15, 2004, 01:18 PM
Stupid...

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Cory:
Not once did I blame this site for Redhawk's actions. NOT ONCE! I asked, which was an open invite for JD to clear their name, if Redhawk was another one of their known members, conducting some assinine "test" on the Rebelscum moderators.

Why should JediDefender have to clear its name to you? If you weren't blaming the site for someone's actions, or implying such, then why was it necesarry for you to call the site out in the first place?

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Cory:
Automatically, you people assumed I SAID it was you, when I didn't, again, I only asked for a straight forward response.

Since leaving JD, you've been nothing but bitter towards this site and everyone in it (the staff and the members). Several times you've said things over at RS about JD, that were brough to my attention, that really put me off. You and I never butted heads about anything, and yet still, you hate 'us people' as a whole for some reason.

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So, as I said before, nobody is blaming anyone. I merely asked, and you took it wrong.

Since you've got nothing but bitter things to say about 'us people', why don't you just keep your mouth shut about JD, instead?

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Complain about the state of Rebelscum's forums, revel in your "Cheers" atmosphere, but in the future, keep a tighter leash on your problem members, so they don't drag your name through the mud.

Andrew (Vator) has never been a 'problem member' at JediDefender. He made a mistake, did something pretty stupid, and in doing so made himself look bad - but at least he's not so stubborn like so many people in this community (cough) where he cannot see where he was wrong. As far as I'm concerned, Andrew is in the clear now, he's apoligized, and I know he won't do that again.

Even if Andrew was a problem member, or anyone else was over here, how exactly do we 'keep a leash' on our problem members, who are also members at other forums, participating in other forums, anyway? Maybe Philip could un-ban me and give me a moderator position just so I can moderate 'my people' for you?

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Josh:
Best ways to get rid of dandruff?

I've had a rough time with dandruff lately, but it seems to have slacked off a little thankfully - so far all of the dandruff shampoo's seem to just worsen it. My advice is don't wear any dark shirts for a while.

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Idiot:
As for photoshopping Gregg's noggin anywhere, the JD staff here absolutely SUCKS at that stuff.  We can't photoshop **** to save our ass.  Seriously.

Thanks! I'm glad I haven't mailed off my Secret Santa yet.  :P

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Cory:
I'm not any moderator, just someone who's looking out for this sites best interests, and feels as if that piece of advice is worth heeding, if you want to keep your squeaky clean image.

Is that so wrong? I don't have a hidden agenda.

Somehow I doubt that you're looking out for JD's best interest.

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Cory:
So, not only did Vator "test" us, you've got Smileyfaceguy who was/is a problem member here too, who was either banned or deleted himself, doing the same thing, looking to get a rise out of Rebelscum.

Again... SFG is far from a problem member at JD - that is, unless you don't have a sense of humor. Oh.

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Cory:
I've been back here trying to enjoy myself a few times, but the problem areas still remained until now, not that I'd consider posting here after this fracas.

You've never been good at staying away, Cory - and you while you may not come back here this time, I'm sure you won't keep our names out of your mouth over at RS, will you?
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 15, 2004, 01:21 PM
Didn't see that this was locked! Oops.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 15, 2004, 01:33 PM
(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/tap.gif)   No soup for you!   (http://www.cheesebuerger.net/images/smilie/frech/a015.gif)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 02:43 PM
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Idiot:
As for photoshopping Gregg's noggin anywhere, the JD staff here absolutely SUCKS at that stuff.  We can't photoshop **** to save our ass.  Seriously.

Thanks! I'm glad I haven't mailed off my Secret Santa yet.  :P

Sorry Brad!  You're the JD art and graphics guy, so you don't count!  I was speaking about the rest of our photoshop challenged staff here...   ;)
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 15, 2004, 02:49 PM
Oh, you mean 'you people', nevermind.
Title: Smileyfaceguy's Exoneration
Post by: Cory Chaos on December 15, 2004, 05:09 PM
This is just a note to serve as Smileyfaceguy's exoneration pertaining to the supposed pre-meditated gag post about Philip's death at Rebelscum. I mistakenly claimed that he had pre-meditated such a post, as I had some crossed some information I gathered.

I apologize for wrongfully accusing SFG of any wrongdoing.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: JediMAC on December 15, 2004, 05:20 PM
I'm merging your post in with the rest of this crap, Cory.  I was going to comment on the inaccuracies of your sfg insinuations earlier, but I decided your wild accusations weren't worth dealing with refuting anymore.

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I apologize for wrongfully accusing SFG of any wrongdoing.

Then you should apologize to 99% of the JD community for essentially doing the same thing to them...

- M
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Rob on December 15, 2004, 05:22 PM
Even if he did do it, I don't think anyone cares.

Not even a little bit.
Title: Re: Did Dante predict Rebelscum (Wuhers)?
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2004, 08:55 PM
Wow...

OK, even though this is locked, I'm adding some things to it since I just got to read what started this at Scum.

The short of it is that everything you said at Scum was baseless Cory, and I frankly do think you owe JD.com overall (and its members) an apology for insinuating what you did.  Matt apologized for Vator only out of kindness, not because he ever had to.

The whole thing's silly, and this topic is dead...  Well, dead after I'm done anyway. :)

Cory, you're not gonna have any friends here if you keep it up...  Scum's problems, even if they're GOOD members here (and Vator, KBZ, and anyone else you implicated openly) are their problems...  So DBB and Lady Jaye simply have their work cut out.

We get our problems too, and we're left to deal with them and not establishing asinine "theories" about other sites.

I hope nothing this stupid shows up here again, or at Rebelscum, because this really was one of the dumbest things I've read in a LONG time.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Killer185 on January 4, 2005, 12:49 AM
There really are no good candidates for moderator at rebel scum. Zod would probably be the best choice, but I cannot think of anyone else who would be a good moderator. Some of the people asking for the job are pathetic. Killer185 ::), YodaBoi ::), General Windu ::). God help you all.
Thats actually pretty funny because I was the one to suggest there be new mods instated.  And no I was not asking to be one by any means.... ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: JediMAC on January 4, 2005, 12:53 AM
You're just a little over 4 months late with your response there, Killer.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Killer185 on January 4, 2005, 01:01 AM
Indeed... did not come on here till recently just to see what fun this site is! Much more fun than scum at times always good for a good laugh! ;D Then I figured why not uncover what **** you guys have been saying on me! Search came up with that as the only thing really.  :P Meh.  :-*

But I must say the funniest thing yet is the drama between these sites!  Really guys its just online fourms!  ;D :P But then again its always good for a great laugh! (Got to love the GNT threads here! ;D)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Mikey D on January 4, 2005, 07:43 AM
Then I figured why not uncover what **** you guys have been saying on me!

Psss - we're allowed to say **** here
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 4, 2005, 08:44 AM
RS's currently getting a butt pounding by a spammer...  Lots of great free items though!!!  :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 4, 2005, 10:50 AM
Indeed... did not come on here till recently just to see what fun this site is! Much more fun than scum at times always good for a good laugh! ;D Then I figured why not uncover what **** you guys have been saying on me! Search came up with that as the only thing really.  :P Meh.  :-*

But I must say the funniest thing yet is the drama between these sites!  Really guys its just online fourms!  ;D :P But then again its always good for a great laugh! (Got to love the GNT threads here! ;D)

You're an *******. I don't like ********. Stop.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on January 4, 2005, 03:40 PM
Indeed... did not come on here till recently just to see what fun this site is! Much more fun than scum at times always good for a good laugh! ;D Then I figured why not uncover what **** you guys have been saying on me! Search came up with that as the only thing really.  :P Meh.  :-*

But I must say the funniest thing yet is the drama between these sites!  Really guys its just online fourms!  ;D :P But then again its always good for a great laugh! (Got to love the GNT threads here! ;D)

Well aren't we a European Cigarette?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Killer185 on January 4, 2005, 04:30 PM
Well aren't we the having a ******* grand time?! Quite clever I must say Vator.    :P 

Must say I love this site even more and yes I know Mikey D we are allowed to say **** here alllll the more fun indeed! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on January 4, 2005, 05:42 PM
Let's just lock this now. It'll eventually be locked anyway when all the Scum retards pop over and flame us. ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 4, 2005, 05:59 PM
Well aren't we the having a ******* grand time?! Quite clever I must say Vator.    :P 

Must say I love this site even more and yes I know Mikey D we are allowed to say **** here alllll the more fun indeed! ;D ;)

N00bs can't say the "f word". Leave the arrogance to me. :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Ben on January 5, 2005, 03:52 AM
Killer
Say
****.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2005, 04:15 AM
Like putting cheese on the trap...
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on January 5, 2005, 06:32 PM
If we're making fun of RS, let me show you this post in the Kenney Baker arrested thread:

"HEY AM I missing something here, because Kenny Baker (the guy who played R2D2) is a midget, and every body knows that midgets cant drive cars. Therefour, this story is a liar."

 ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Ben on January 5, 2005, 06:42 PM
Is there a bigger gathering of less-informed ******** on the internet than RS?

If there is, I don't wanna know about it. :D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: C on January 5, 2005, 09:24 PM
If we're making fun of RS, let me show you this post in the Kenney Baker arrested thread:

"HEY AM I missing something here, because Kenny Baker (the guy who played R2D2) is a midget, and every body knows that midgets cant drive cars. Therefour, this story is a liar."

 ::)

yeah, darth darth is a gem. wasn't someone saying awhile back that he was virex?  ::)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2005, 10:56 PM
After that comment, it could either be comedic genius from Virex or genuine stupidity from someone more likely to be DD, but that's my take. :)

As far as a bigger place of the ill-informed, I can think of a COUPLE forums that are packed with ignorance beyond Scum...  Yes, I said it.

The Massassi Temple (a Jedi Knight Series game editing site) is pretty damned ignorant as a general description of the members there.  I mean, it really is sad to read through at times.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Diddly on January 6, 2005, 12:02 AM
AllSith.com was run by Bangs. But their members kicked him out, and they're even worse than him...

GameFAQS has the dumbest people online. Ever.

So there are worse places than RS.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2005, 12:05 AM
Wait...

Bangs made Allsith.com, and his MEMBERS there kicked him out?

Chris you better watch your back man.  :)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 6, 2005, 12:24 AM
I would be honored if you kicked me out.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on January 6, 2005, 12:30 AM
AllSith.com was run by Bangs. But their members kicked him out

Oh, that is just classic. It doesn't get any better than that.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 6, 2005, 12:33 AM
BTW, how do you get kicked out of your own site?

Or dare I ask?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2005, 12:33 AM
I wonder if Bangs realized he is the one who didn't have to leave.   :D
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jediknight760071 on January 6, 2005, 12:34 AM
I wonder if Bangs realized he is the one who didn't have to leave.   :D

Huh?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: CorranHorn on January 6, 2005, 12:53 AM
AllSith.com was run by Bangs. But their members kicked him out

Oh, that is just classic. It doesn't get any better than that.

ohh yeah that is just priceless! bangs was the epitome of message board morons and he couldn't even stay at his own board. HAH!
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Vator on January 6, 2005, 07:07 AM
Bangs dame Kris Van De Sande the administrator from the begining...and then there was some kind of contest for something, Customs I think, where the prize was a Vader Bust. Bangs, being the genius that he is gave it to one of his friends, rather than the winner. He got thrown out/left and has not returned to the SW Collecting Community since.

Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Angry Ewok on January 6, 2005, 01:04 PM
Bangs dame Kris Van De Sande the administrator from the begining...

How many sites does Kris work with? I know there's AllSith, BeJedi, and wasn't he also some sort of moderator janitor for Rebelscum once?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2005, 06:15 PM
He mods customs there.  As a matter of fact he PM'd me about something I was selling, showing interest, and never got back to me...  I hate when people do **** like that.

 >:(
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on January 6, 2005, 09:53 PM
As a matter of fact he PM'd me about something I was selling, showing interest, and never got back to me...  I hate when people do **** like that.

 >:(

 :-[

Sorry Jesse
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Killer185 on January 8, 2005, 12:35 AM
I do not represent nor "defend" rebelscum... I personally could care less.  For bloody crying out loud guys it just forums! This whole rival forum is just really silly!  ::)

No I am not a scum member trying to flame bloody JD members, just because you were kicked from Rebelscum or do not like scum does not mean everyone who registers from there is out to get you.

Oh and by the way... **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****! There I said it love, sorry "n00bs" can say that.   :-* :P 8) ;)
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Redhawk on January 8, 2005, 01:49 AM
that was a funny post killer, im glad your here to! I like it here just as much as i like it at rebelscum, but the moderators here are funnier than bobsbigboy and lady jaye.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 8, 2005, 04:15 AM
As a matter of fact he PM'd me about something I was selling, showing interest, and never got back to me...  I hate when people do **** like that.

 >:(

 :-[

Sorry Jesse

For what Dave?   ???  You didn't do something did you?
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Chris on January 8, 2005, 11:11 AM
I do not represent nor "defend" rebelscum... I personally could care less.  For bloody crying out loud guys it just forums! This whole rival forum is just really silly!  ::)

No I am not a scum member trying to flame bloody JD members, just because you were kicked from Rebelscum or do not like scum does not mean everyone who registers from there is out to get you.

Oh and by the way... **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****! There I said it love, sorry "n00bs" can say that.   :-* :P 8) ;)

Next time you post something stupid, I'm locking your account. Please stop.
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: jokabofe on January 8, 2005, 11:26 AM
As a matter of fact he PM'd me about something I was selling, showing interest, and never got back to me...  I hate when people do **** like that.

 >:(

 :-[

Sorry Jesse

For what Dave?   ???  You didn't do something did you?

Yeah, I was asking you about those 12" figures you had for sale and then kinda forgot about it   :-\
Title: Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
Post by: Jesse James on January 8, 2005, 06:32 PM
I knew where we stood Dave, no worries. :)
Title: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Scott on February 24, 2005, 10:35 PM
I know site politics are pretty moronic and the wars between sites can be beyond stupid.  But, being I'm sort of out the game now, I think I can say this story over at Rebelscum is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read in the 10 years of SW Collecting Site history

http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=89831

Places like GH and Sandtroopers have had these pics up for 2-3 weeks now.  I see no benefit in asking for this and it makes your site look like a bunch of whiney kids who can't get the latest goods.  Wow ::)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Famine on February 24, 2005, 10:59 PM
I saw that earlyer today, and I thought "Yeah, cause I'm gonna be in the store, finding toys that some people would give an arm for, and think "Gee, I bet Rebelscum could sure use these."

So sad.

Kevin
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Diddly on February 24, 2005, 11:08 PM
Here's a novel idea - WAIT FOR APRIL 2ND!

Wait, isn't Phil registering for wedding gifts with Greg(g) that day?

Words cannot describe how stupid this is. ::)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 24, 2005, 11:09 PM
Not to get off on another RS/Wise-bashing tangent, as he's never done anything to me personally, but RS has always come across as the "company shill" on the majority of stuff Hasbro does.  I can't remember the last time that they haven't bent over backwards to say how great Hasbro is and how every single product is "wonderful" or "long awaited" and how Hasbro is "really listening to the collectors."

There were two really telling occurrences recently though that finally drove the nail into RS.com's coffin as far as I was concerned:

1-A few weeks ago, there was an article on some website (I'm sure someone here can point it out) that talked about the relationship between LFL and the SW fansite community, and how other franchises (most notably Peter Jackson's LOTR camp) had embraced fan sites while LFL seemed to keep them at arm's length.  T'Bone from starwarz.com was great as always, and was eloquent in his commentary on the relationship (or lack thereof) between LFL and fansites.  Then they bring in our buddy Philip, who said (and I'm paraphrasing):

"I guess we picked the wrong franchise to back (referring to SW over LOTR, I guess).  TheOneRing.net took their design and aesthetic from TFN."

Wise also made allusions to being "important" and how he should be treated as such and not dismissed by LFL.  Basically, his comments came across as "I should be treated as a god, even though I am basing my fandom on how important I am perceived rather than actual actions, and I'm jealous of the other sites that do things a lot better than I do."  At least that's how I read them.

2-Notice how RS.com hasn't really mentioned the Clone Trooper 4 packs from EE since they were first announced?  I wonder if that has to do with the fact that another site was partially behind getting the set made and certain site owners were jealous that they didn't have a hand in this?  And it's like that with everything: RS swore up and down that they would not post leaked photos from ROTS toys and whatnot, but when JD.com, GH.com, Sandtroopers, TheJawa, Yakface, etc started showing them and leaving RS in the dust, what do they do?  They crank them out faster than you can say "I'm only in it for the money!"

I'm not a big fan of people who think that because they run a website (and don't even have a hand in the updating of said site unless they need to get their personal point across), they are somehow "more important" or a "bigger fan" than other people.  We're all fans (or we are all supposedly fans), and we should do things to help each other out; not use their sites to shill for companies so they can make a buck off the fans (as in PW's autograph group he started up a few years ago).  His little "Backed the wrong franchise" comment just reinforces the fact that he is not a true SW fan (there I go judging again) and is, truly, only in it for the money and his own inflated ego.

Mods, feel free to delete this post if it's too inflammatory.  The last thing I want is to play a part in starting a war on the internet.  :-\
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Scott on February 25, 2005, 01:19 PM
Do What I Say, Not What I Do (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=967784&Forum=,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=9&Limit=25&Main=966527&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post967784)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Famine on February 25, 2005, 01:42 PM
What do they mean "If you get one for traid bait, it's considered scalping." No, I get one for traid bait to help myself and others out.

Good lord.

Is Philip gonna be at the Convention? I'd honestly like to discuss his logic behind that.

Kevin
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 25, 2005, 02:44 PM
I take that comment on scalping as very funny, considering the man is charging other "fans" exhorbitant prices to have one of the actors write their names on something, and then only if it's something that he authorizes them to sign.   ::)

Here I was under the impression that the Celebration(s) were all about the fan community and having fun, but apparently, it's still all about the almighty dollar to Mr. Wise.  Famine, if you do see him, be sure to ask him about this, as (at least personally) I find charging money for people's autographs to be a form of scalping in its own way.  Certainly more of a "scalping" action than buying two of something for trade bait.
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: JediMAC on February 25, 2005, 02:59 PM
Do What I Say, Not What I Do (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=967784&Forum=,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=9&Limit=25&Main=966527&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post967784)

From Philip:
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Actually, if you bought one of these just for trade bait, we call that scalping around these parts.

Just because you move the currency from money to the bust, doesn't make it any less scalping than selling it for more than you paid for it right now.

The whole point behind trying to reduce scalping is to not buy something unless it's for your collection. Any other purpose potentially drives the price up for somebody else because you stole his ability to buy it for the same price you did.

I found this response in that thread to be the best of the bunch.  No idea why...   ;)

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Wow.

So Philip, when my friends up in Canada, or elsewhere around the country/world, ask me to find a few figures at retail for them since they've never been available in their area, you're telling me by doing so I'm aiding the scalping market? Not helping fellow Star Wars collectors, but rather just helping scalpers? That's certainly an interesting, and skewed, perspective. I can guarantee you that A LOT of Star Wars collectors around the world do NOT share your point of view there... If I don't help fellow collectors out with figures at retail cost, won't they have to resort to scalpers? Man, I'm confused. I must've had it backwards all these years.

Essentially, you're now of the opinion that we can't HELP eachother out, since buying stuff for your buddies collections (and not your own) "potentially drives the price up for somebody else because you stole his ability to buy it for the same price you did.". I guess you better shut down your trading and classifieds boards here then. They're obviously a wretched hive of scalper assisting villainy.

Mind boggling, seriously.

And now they're pulling a complete 180 there at RS, and asking their "community" to go out and buy up any ROTS extras they can get their hands on, and send it in to RS?!?  ******' ridiculous...
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Darth Kenobi on February 25, 2005, 07:39 PM
Like most of you I think that is stuipid especially when Phillip has complined in the past about taking extras for trade or sale in the future.  As someone else mention Philip also is one to talk about sale stuff when its his company that is going to run the Auto's at C3 (I wonder if he will change its name to C3 Ventures).
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Jediknight760071 on February 25, 2005, 08:47 PM
I'm sure some of you think of me as the RS ambassador here on JD, and I will admit that when I read the story I thought it was a good idea.....



But now that I've thought about it...I think you are all right...What a dumb idea.

Imagine yourself at the store....by some miracle, you've got Episode 3 figures in front of you (a 5 dollar bill in your unarmed wallet) and your thinking Coruscant Guard and Bail Organa, or Philip Wise.


Ehhhhhhhhhh.......You choose.


 :)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: CHEWIE on February 25, 2005, 10:51 PM
If I find something early, I'll open them and post pics here.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Ben on February 26, 2005, 12:22 AM
I just think Phil's panties are in a bunch because nobody wants to trade with him.
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on February 26, 2005, 12:07 PM



I'm certainly not an fan and have had my share of encounter so I'm not the most unbiased person to speak. The reason why I visit JD and GH is because of the community these site have built.  There are many here who beyond talking about sci fi hotties and society &  politics threads offer a wealth of knowledge in the collecting community.

RS over the years has seemed to turn from a collective community one that I had turned to for it's host of great talent,  filled with a number of indivduals with a wealth of knowledge to a deviant subculture in the starwars universe. It is the premier example of people who lose focus. I understand that it is costly to run a website for fans I would hope through hit counts and advertisers they make some money to  cover the expenses,but to profit off of me and then ask me to do the work you once vigiantly and feverishly did  to bring me, the collector, the latest news, I find tremendously pathetic. 

If I were an adminstrator of a website I would be asking myself why I'm not being sent information maybe this is a larger by product of what the community thinks of me and my site. Maybe the reason I'm on top is because it's reallly only in my mind and nowhere else.


I have some really good collecting buddies who choose to stay with rebelscum I suppose mainly because we live in and around the Big D. The only reason I'm there is to chat with them in that forum.
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Jediknight760071 on February 26, 2005, 10:36 PM
Do What I Say, Not What I Do (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=967784&Forum=,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=9&Limit=25&Main=966527&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post967784)

I think RS needs to have a Council of Trent.....I'm getting mixed signals:

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1070120&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post10701951070120
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Famine on February 26, 2005, 10:43 PM
What they need is to be digitaly euthanized. :P Hard.

Kevin
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 26, 2005, 11:25 PM
I had a big rant in this space that several of you may have already seen, but in the interest of not starting an "OMG INTARWEB LOL" war, I deleted it all.  Basically, the entire post could be summed up in one brief group of statements:

As Harry Tuttle told Sam in "Brazil," "We're all in it together, kid."  No collector is better than any other collector and we are all equals.  We need to worry more about helping each other as people and friends and fans and less time worrying about how others will perceive us if we don't have ROTS photos two months early. 

I'm going to stop hugging the tree now.   8)
Title: Re: This...This is Stupid
Post by: Nicklab on February 26, 2005, 11:55 PM
I think the situation is kind of ridiculous.  Why the hell are they offering to buy product from people who find it early?  I can understand wanting to get things early in order to offer the images to their readers.  Perhaps they're trying to make up for their half-assed Q&A efforts at Toy Fair?

Fact is that GH has pretty well scooped every other collecting site when it comes to new figure images.  I can say this with some degree of objectivity AND perspective since I've worked as a Star Wars collecting site reporter for the past 4 years or so.  This just looks like RS is trying to play catchup now.
Title: Give me a medal
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 11, 2005, 12:57 AM
I've never had this happen before...slow connection + impatience = Double post record.....

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1063949&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=6&vc=1


I thought the problem was solved and there were no more double posts......


That's really embarassing, yet after a minute of looking at it, I laughed hysterically at my desk.

I'm Always talking about post padding like it's so fun, and I've been joking around about it for a long time, but now I'm afraid everyone's gonna take me seriously.


Oh crap...The admins are gonna fry me. :-[ :-\ :)
Title: Re: Give me a medal
Post by: Chris on March 11, 2005, 01:02 AM
Interesting.
Title: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 27, 2005, 10:37 PM
Since when did I agree to be solicited for crap I don't give to ***** about?  Especially since my account was banned for any type of use 3 months ago.  I think someones head continues to balloon to more and more epic proportions.

http://www.rebelscum.com/privacy.asp

I don't see anything in their privacy policy stating that I want to get Junk Mail from them.  Bastards >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Chris on March 27, 2005, 10:43 PM
Yes, I received that as well and was quite disgusted.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 10:45 PM
I got a TRU Ad from Philip Wise himself, about midnight madness. Is that what you guys are complaining about? I too was annoyed at this.



HOLD THE PHONE:

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We may offer a free electronic newsletter to users. Rebelscum.com gathers the email addresses of users who voluntarily subscribe. Users may remove themselves from this mailing list by following the link provided in every newsletter that points users to the subscription management page. Users can also subscribe to the newsletters at the time of registration.

What about Ad's ya bunch of Jackasses...I just looked this ad up and down and over and side to side and there isnt a sodding unsubscribe feature...Liars.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2005, 10:46 PM
The first thing I did was reply to sender about that ad...

Thanks, but no thanks.   >:(

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 27, 2005, 10:53 PM
If you are going to ban me (which I have no idea why I was banned BTW) have the decency of removing my e-mail address from your damned Spam Listings ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 10:55 PM
You know this doesn't suprise me.


It really doesn't, and it just hit me. Here is why:

They got some figures from Hasbro for 'free' to photograph and reveiw...nothing in life is free. I'm betting they shelled out some email adresses and they got around, or they are getting stuff in exchange for distributing spam.

Jesus.

Happy Easter every one. :P

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2005, 11:01 PM
If you are going to ban me (which I have no idea why I was banned BTW) have the decency of removing my e-mail address from your damned Spam Listings ::)

Here's whay Phil had to say...

PW comment #1 (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB12&Number=1100913&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1100792&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1100913)

PW comment #2 (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB12&Number=1101272&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1100792&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1101272)


"If you do not wish to receive it, you are encouraged to stop using it and notify me such so I may remove your accounts."

- what about those whose accounts you CLOSED/BANNED, yet you STILL spammed them.   ::)

Lame.

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 11:06 PM
I just put my account on the line and asked him.

If he strikes me down now I will become more powerful than he could ever imagine.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Vator on March 27, 2005, 11:07 PM
Uhhh, why the **** am I getting RS spam? I've been banned there for months. Friggen' Phaag that Phil is.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 11:37 PM
OWNED BY MS. STEWART!

Check that last post out. It's a beauty.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Deanpaul on March 27, 2005, 11:48 PM
OWNED BY MS. STEWART!

Check that last post out. It's a beauty.

Kevin

Ms. Stewart is a beauty, or the post?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 27, 2005, 11:52 PM
Both.

I need to make an I <3 Martha Stewart Tee for C3.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 28, 2005, 12:16 AM
The first thing I did was reply to sender about that ad...

Thanks, but no thanks.   >:(

Jeff

I think we should all reply to sender again and again.  I think that its funny that some of the banned members are getting this email from him since you have no accounts over there.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 28, 2005, 12:25 AM
 "I don't like Spam!" (http://members.fortunecity.com/wavjunky/swl-d/dontspam.wav)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2005, 12:56 AM
I too thought this thing was in poor taste.

It certainly looks like everyone's trying to cash in for this last Star Wars flick, and I'll be glad when it's over and I can leave this nonsense behind. (Read my blog for more.)

I only use RS for the Area Reports forum, and think I'll just let him remove my account since I'm not going to let that ******* sell my email address to TRU. (I'm not sure, but I think that's the case here.)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 28, 2005, 01:02 AM
Nooo! Another one bites the dust. :(

You guys are dropping like flies.

Oh well.

Check you PM's HMI.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2005, 01:18 AM
As I mentioned in the rebelscum thread just now - I receieved this spam mail at my WORK email address, which is not the address I put into my rebelscum profile.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on March 28, 2005, 02:04 AM
yeah not a cool thing, that's why I started the thread on scum in the first place. we'll see now if phil clears things up after my most recent post. and hopefully in a way that doesn't come off as belligerent.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 28, 2005, 04:01 AM
Well, I wouldn't count on anything being handled in a manner that says "Hey, sorry, I was wrong", that's for sure.

I think many people here can be quite assured that no matter what you don't like about Rebelscum, the answer there is and always will be, "Well we can just cancel your account to this forum".  I've never seen anyone not give two ***** about other collector's opinions so much. 

I think this whole matter is really quite sad, and nobody should be subjected to spam unwarranted.  It's basically been proven that Scum's being abusive of the emails they have, and I'm curious to see how this turns out.

I also love how people who seem to have a "need" of sucking up to the admin over there are quick to Rebelscum's defense too!  That's really classic...   ;D  First to run up and cup the administration's balls while they scold anyone who complains about the spam they got.  God forbid we ever voice a complaint against something they did...  OOOOooo  :) 

I guess certain folks just need that forum, and to be in its good graces. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 28, 2005, 05:06 AM
I don't know why I even bothered making a post in that thread...nothing's gonna change.

at leas it didn't get locked within the day like usual. :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on March 28, 2005, 12:06 PM
So others got that message too? I was wondering why a banned member like me was getting ads from TRU and Philip Wise. Lame.

But wait, doesn't Phil make $$$ off of those adds? Which is why all of the "news" items are plugs for stores? ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on March 28, 2005, 02:06 PM
eh go figure, the reply he Phil made had the same old belligerent undertones to it. not even an attempt to say something like "hey, it is in our policy and we're sorry that it bothers you. the only way to get out of the list is cancel your account here, but we hope that you would consider staying and being part of our community. thank you"

instead he went off on a rant about pointing fingers at him, so sad....
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 28, 2005, 02:11 PM
**** this game. The only reason my presense is felt at Rebelscum is because their custom section has more active posters. I think I have posted a total of 4 times elsewere. He still wont unlock my signature editing feature, because of the petition against GNT I mentioned that took off. I stuck it, and a link here in my signature and he slapped the lock on it so quick it made my head spin. I think he also said he wanted an apology, wich he will NOT get from me.

First it will be one a year...then we will get another, and another. >:(

I cant wait till that reverse spam program comes out.

I certainly hope that he and I meet at C3 so I can give him a piece of my mind, and ask him a few questions. >:(

Kevin

At least he fessed up to getting money from them for it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 28, 2005, 02:12 PM
Its amazing that people still continue to support the biggest dickhole in the community.

Its easy people, stop posting there and he'll go away and his empire from which he is leeching thousands of dollars off of will also crumble.  TFN and Rebelscum are far from "Fan Friendly" its all business and always will be all business.  Its disgusting
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 28, 2005, 02:17 PM
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What I don't understand is how it's possible this email really bothered any of you. You think you're going to trip me up and point a finger at me? Get a life and move along. We have tens of thousands of users who were delighted to receive the emails, hope we continue the site, and support everything we do on it. I'll waste no further time on this issue with you.

Oh man...I just love how the Forum suggestions section is working out...what a service. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 28, 2005, 02:26 PM
Its amazing that people still continue to support the biggest dickhole in the community.

Its easy people, stop posting there and he'll go away and his empire from which he is leeching thousands of dollars off of will also crumble.  TFN and Rebelscum are far from "Fan Friendly" its all business and always will be all business.  Its disgusting

Not to mention a liar.

Tens of Thousands who were "delighted"? LMFAO. I guarentee you NO ONE was "delighted" to get an advertising email. At all. Hands down.

I need to lie down.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: CorranHorn on March 28, 2005, 02:36 PM
Scott: I hear ya, but unfortunately I'm a victim of supporting the scum forums in a twisted way in that I still goto the vintage and Chicago sections, something which no other site can top. The rest of the place is useless to me though and I find superior talk here for stuff like modern toys and general OT. And yes Scum is treated like a business, which means as such there should be some basic customer service which is certainly not given.

Famine: I don't think most people even realized the e-mail came from Scum, they just saw it as Spam and until it was pointed out where it came from they were unaware what it was. So as you've already said, I'm sure not many were delighted to get the message. And oh yeah, having more active posters, doesn't necessarily relate to having more meaningul posts. think about that for a bit wont you?

JK: read back to my customer service remark above. pretty much it's like they get an actual complaint and then get overly defensive without completely answering the complaint. sounds an awful lot like the cable company :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 28, 2005, 02:53 PM
A great way to talk to your members...

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Get a life and move along.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 28, 2005, 03:06 PM
It's too bad the Customizing section is great there....If only I lived a little north I could post more effectively in the Mission logs here, rather than in the Orange County section at RS.

Ugh..I can't believe I'm still torn after being told to get a life.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 28, 2005, 03:07 PM
Here's a hint, why not start those same threads here and invite people to come on over ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 28, 2005, 03:29 PM
As for Philip, I think his comments, especially this one particular paragraph, much better convey anything that I could possibly say regarding how they feel about their members...

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Philip:
What I don't understand is how it's possible this email really bothered any of you.  You think you're going to trip me up and point a finger at me? Get a life and move along.  We have tens of thousands of users who were delighted to receive the emails, hope we continue the site, and support everything we do on it.  I'll waste no further time on this issue with you.

Kinda scary really.   :-\

Nice to see Jimmy_ come to the rescue as always though, mixing in the usual trolling that goes along with most of his posts as well.  What a tool.  Ironic, since he used to tear Philip apart even worse than anyone before he got banned (the first time) over at RS a couple years ago.  Nice little "arrangement" he and Philip must have now...   ;)

...If only I lived a little north I could post more effectively in the Mission logs here, rather than in the Orange County section at RS.

Justin, our SoCal thread here is for both OC and L.A.  We don't necessarily have to hit the exact same stores as eachother in order for our store reports to be useful.  Just knowing the retail chain where things are showing up and the day they're hitting is usually all we need to know to go find the stuff ourselves, since most stores get/stock their inventories similar between our two neighboring counties.  Not to mention, a lot of us actually go back and forth between the two in our toy hunts.  So knowing what hits the RSM stores, or TMP is still quite helpful to the L.A. guys, as should our reports be helpful to you guys in OC.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 28, 2005, 03:32 PM
Man, I'm feeling left out.  Not only have I never been banned from RS, I've actually won something over there and I still didn't get the email.   :'(  Geez, don't I rate?

I guess it could be because I haven't posted there much in the last couple of years, but I'm still registered.  I think.  I'd have to actually log in to check, but I was a couple of months ago.  

Gotta admit though, his replies are rather, um, insensitive.  I mean really, who defends that kind of ****?  Ah well.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 28, 2005, 03:45 PM
As for Philip, I think his comments, especially this one particular paragraph, much better convey anything that I could possibly say regarding how they feel about their members...

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Philip:
What I don't understand is how it's possible this email really bothered any of you.  You think you're going to trip me up and point a finger at me? Get a life and move along.  We have tens of thousands of users who were delighted to receive the emails, hope we continue the site, and support everything we do on it.  I'll waste no further time on this issue with you.

Kinda scary really.   :-\

"Get a life and move along. "

What a positive way to run a SW Forum.   ::)

He still didn't address why he sent the spam to those who DID "get a life and move along" after having their accounts locked/banned.

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 28, 2005, 03:49 PM
I like how he then added what I can only assume to be a response to my work email address being added (unsolicited) to his spam list by saying that they also use email addresses given in give-away entry forms.

I've been a member there for over 3 years and have not ONCE seen them do a give-away.

And the real irony is that while my WORK email address is getting his spam, I'm not getting it at my hotmail account - which is the address I gave in my profile and registration.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 28, 2005, 03:49 PM
Nothing to see here, "get a life and move along". 

I can see a Photoshop opportunity of Shanter and PW's face.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 28, 2005, 03:49 PM
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Justin, our SoCal thread here is for both OC and L.A.  We don't necessarily have to hit the exact same stores as eachother in order for our store reports to be useful.  Just knowing the retail chain where things are showing up and the day they're hitting is usually all we need to know to go find the stuff ourselves, since most stores get/stock their inventories similar between our two neighboring counties.  Not to mention, a lot of us actually go back and forth between the two in our toy hunts.  So knowing what hits the RSM stores, or TMP is still quite helpful to the L.A. guys, as should our reports be helpful to you guys in OC.    
Ohhhhhh, but Matt....That means I have to work ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 28, 2005, 03:58 PM
I've been a member there for over 3 years and have not ONCE seen them do a give-away.

They quit doing their giveaways years ago.  Last few items I remember them giving out were the POTF2 Walmart figure posters and the Target Y-Wings.  Somewhere on the site is a list of contest winners - just check the last date to see how long it's actually been since they had one.  Probably before the (unfortunate) CSW merge.

I also think it's lame that Philip is apparently contradicting himself, saying that if you don't want the e-mails, you'll have to close your account there.  Yet, at the same time, all of the banned members are still getting them.  Phil doesn't seem to want to address that particular issue, I guess...   :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 28, 2005, 04:03 PM
Oh, wow.  Hadn't checked RS's front page in a while.  NOW I see why Philip's defending that e-mail so vigilently...

Man, they've got THREE big, flashing TRU Midnight Madness ads all over the front of their site.  No wonder...   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 28, 2005, 07:59 PM
Oh, wow.  Hadn't checked RS's front page in a while.  NOW I see why Philip's defending that e-mail so vigilently...

Man, they've got THREE big, flashing TRU Midnight Madness ads all over the front of their site.  No wonder...   ;)

Isn't that the whole point of the front page?  Run a bunch of ads and put up some collectors pictures (collections, of course) to justify the ads?  Oh, and question Mark shows up once in a while.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: SilverZ on March 28, 2005, 08:05 PM
Don't forget some Walmart exclusive mis-information.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 28, 2005, 08:07 PM
Some? :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Shannon (Princess) on March 28, 2005, 10:03 PM
I like how he then added what I can only assume to be a response to my work email address being added (unsolicited) to his spam list by saying that they also use email addresses given in give-away entry forms.

Perhaps you filled it out somewhere at one of the local Cons?
I'm sure he's spamming those on that mailing list as well...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 28, 2005, 10:04 PM
Well, what'd I tell ya?  Not a word of "Well, sorry..." or anything.  Just a big "Go **** yourself" to the crowd.  :)

I don't mind Philip, never have and he and I have always been cordial with each other, but the way he runs that forum is like a site I used to visit for a video game...  It was run by kids, and kids would always run their mouths at the members of the forum, and never showed a sign of appreciation.

The whole thing is a mess though...  They have no business sending Spam...  Nobody needs it to operate except Spammers.  If TRU is giving you the choice of spamming your members or not using their service then call me nutty but I'd not use their service.  That seems just like you're backdooring them by handing out their private information like that.

And for guys like Rob, that's just downright sleezy activity.  No business doing something like that, especially when it can mean a reprimand by the person's employer.  No excuse for that, whatsoever.

And the banned people getting the mail is just proof that they don't have this whole situation as well thought-out as they claim.  If you're banned, it should be your right to NEVER be contacted by the site.  It's almost borderline harassment by the site administration at that point.

Matt, you nailed it on the "boy who cried obsession" too...  Never seen someone so needy for attention as that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 28, 2005, 11:47 PM
Some one just nailed him on his tens of thousands post. Way to go!

I truly wonder what will come of this.

I just put my rant down.

Lets see where this goes...

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2005, 12:48 AM
Add Sir Steves Guide to the list of whores sites out there spamming their members.

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From :  staff@sirstevesguide.com <staff@sirstevesguide.com>
Sent :  Monday, March 28, 2005 9:15 PM
To :  <removed>
Subject :  Toys "R" Us Midnight Madness Store Locator


Actually I didn't get one from Scum, just SSG...  Neither should be doing this, it's simply pathetic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 01:02 AM
I like how he then added what I can only assume to be a response to my work email address being added (unsolicited) to his spam list by saying that they also use email addresses given in give-away entry forms.

Perhaps you filled it out somewhere at one of the local Cons?
I'm sure he's spamming those on that mailing list as well...


Nope, never met him him person and never signed up for anything at a convention.  I'm usually in and out of the Dallas Sci Fi expo in under an hour.

Like I mentioned in the rebelscum thread, the only place I can think of where he'd have gotten it from, was from a personal email I sent him...  A few months back he had free passes to at 6:30 sneak preview showing of Sky Captain for anyone interested who lived in the DFW area.  I emailed him (I was still at work) asking if I could have some.  He obliged.  It was very nice of him.  The movie was great.  And here we are.  To the best of my memory I've never used that address in any Rebelscum profiles or any freebies or anything like that.  I've used it in trades...but only because it's open all day, and it is only given out like that in PMs. 

Beats me...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Logray2776 on March 29, 2005, 02:23 AM
Hi fellas, hows everyone been? Well I noticed this in my e-mail as well, and decided to post in the thread over yonder at RS, and took care of my problem.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 29, 2005, 02:57 AM
That's the way...I wanna see how it goes before I commit.... :)I'm hoping it can get wrapped up so we benifit...I just don't want SPAM, that's all.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 29, 2005, 04:00 AM
I truly wonder what will come of this.

Nothing at all, actually.  Philip could care less.  He's said so time and again.  This is far from the first time he's told any of his members who've had an issue with him or his site that they can just take a walk, 'cause he's got plenty more members where they came from.

It's just business for him over there.  Nothing personal.  If you don't like the fact that he doesn't give a **** about you, or any of his other members, that doesn't bother him one bit.  And it all trickles down...

I just find it totally bizarre that Darth Big Boy got fired from his mod position for saying a thread was stupid, yet Philip, owner of the site, can tell a good number of his members expressing a concern in a feedback forum to "Get a life" just because they don't care for spam e-mails.  That's just sad.

He should be embarrassed.  Unfortunately, he's not.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 29, 2005, 04:57 AM
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'cause he's got plenty more members where they came from

Unfortunately it's usually quality members that leave/ get banned and the replacements are kids. One's like me.... Except worse.


Imagine that. ;)

EDIT: *Sigh* There goes Dustin, sweeping both issues under the carpet. I think I used to like him.

KBZ...Please LMK if you get the expanation they owe you. I'm very disturbed they locked the thread when it wasn't nearly finished...and without explanation too.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2005, 07:00 AM
That was probably at someone higher's orders.  I'm sure behind-the-scenes it was discussed, and the conclusion was to simply lock it down and punish anyone who brings it up in the future.

To each their own...  If that's how they wanna run the show there, they're welcome to do so.  It's a real shame because to me you build a community by actually being a part of it.  Ruling it without concern for the people there is one major blight on Star Wars collecting though.  I'm really rather shocked on some level that no effort was made to ammend this though.  It's just "my way or no way" for those that the illicit emails actually effected though.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 10:25 AM
Yeah, we'll I'm going to ask again.

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1103973&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1103973
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 10:33 AM
And my new thread has been locked already...

And they wonder why all the adults leave their site.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 29, 2005, 10:34 AM
Wow, that was fast.

Hey Dale, where's that "sweeping it under the rug" smilie?

 ::)

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 10:57 AM
I was told to email Phillip - which I did.  No reply as of yet.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 29, 2005, 10:58 AM
As good as it will get.  :-\

 (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/haushalt/f010.gif)    (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/haushalt/f045.gif)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: D_B_B on March 29, 2005, 11:18 AM
I was told to email Phillip - which I did.  No reply as of yet.

That comment from Dustin was funny to me as isn't emailing Philip what got you in this situation to begin with :).
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 11:36 AM
Pretty much, yep.  The reply was funny to me because it was so dismissive and rude and contradictory to the idea of a forum.  Much like everything else that's going on over there nowadays.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2005, 11:39 AM
Emailing philip is all a ploy to get more emails.  It's a scam I tells ya!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 11:42 AM
At least I was smart enough to not use a third email address to send this email - I sent it from the work address that I know is already on his list, so it'd be really easy for him to know which one to take off of the list.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on March 29, 2005, 11:47 AM
You ever wonder what Dustin gets out of being Phillips bitch? He needs to grow a sack and call his boss out on this one.

DBB - care to fill us in on what happened over there with you?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: D_B_B on March 29, 2005, 12:23 PM
You ever wonder what Dustin gets out of being Phillips bitch? He needs to grow a sack and call his boss out on this one.

DBB - care to fill us in on what happened over there with you?

OK......here's the deal.

I was told that my moderator duties were stripped and was told "not to take it the wrong way".  When I asked for an explanation, I was told that posting habits had been observed and it was felt that I should no longer be moderator.....and that was all that was going to be said about it.

I got no further explanation on the matter....which is pretty sad.  Being told "not to take it the wrong way" but yet I can't get the common respect of being told exactly why I was "let go" is pretty lame and not professional ( if you can even call something like this that ).  It's BS.  There's so many other members there that deserve to be disciplined but they get off without even a warning.

There's more to it that led up to the whole thing but I won't get into it here because unlike those involved I have the common courtesy not to disrespect others even if they deserve it.

From what I've been told by some is that I was liked as a member and a moderator.  Way better them some there.  Oh well....what can I say.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 01:05 PM
If you ask me, you're better off without the job - it's thankless and you have to work with a bunch of little kids and a-holes.  At one point I applied and all, but I'm honestly quite happy that I wasn't offered it.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 29, 2005, 01:11 PM
Oh look at that. A lock.

The only reason I ever visit there is because I host CHEWIE's diorama and custom work, and I like to see peoples replies and reactions and such, because well, I had a small part in it. I also like to put my two cents in.


Bastards...

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 29, 2005, 03:16 PM
Looks like I missed some fun at the Scum last night.  I immediately popped over here because (sadly enough) I know this is still the only place you can come to discuss current events happening at Rebelscum freely these days.


Personally, the email itself didn't bother me.  I don't like spam, but this was a targeted advertisement about an event I plan to attend. That kind of "junk" mail doesn't really annoy me anymore than Google ads on sites I like to frequent.

Now, if Philip had sent us all penis enlargement pill emails, that would be another story.

I don't remember whether or not I ever had the opportunity to "opt out" of whatever mailing list I found myself a part of, but I don't think it makes me Philip's bitch if I am not really bothered by an email about a Star Wars sale I'm going to on Friday night.   

So he made a couple of bucks from TRU. Rebelscum has given me more than enough free entertainment in return for that ONE email. On the other hand, was I delighted?  Nah.  I just wasn't pissed like so many others were.  One junk email from a site I've been a member of for 3 years or so is really not that bad.

As for how it was handled after the fact, I thought THAT was the true insult.  The email itself didn't bug me, but the "**** you, leave if you don't like it" did.

That was surprising to see.

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 29, 2005, 03:23 PM
As for how it was handled after the fact, I thought THAT was the true insult.  The email itself didn't bug me, but the "**** you, leave if you don't like it" did.

Please don't forget the "Get a life" comment there Josh...   ;)

Yeah, the spam e-mail didn't bother me all that much.  I get plenty of them on a daily basis.  Heck, I originally thought that was directly from TRU when I saw it in there.  Didn't realize otherwise until the ****storm started brewing.

But it was the response from Philip that I found to be in completely poor taste.  God, it's infuriating watching how he treats his forum members there sometimes.  He should be embarrassed for the stuff he said, which was far worse IMO than Tommy calling a thread stupid, which essentially got him fired from the moderator gig.  Ironic that.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 29, 2005, 03:30 PM
Why the hell do they close every feedback thread? No one was attacking Philip and he started acting like such a little bitch. What's the deal lately. The mods haven't closed a single thread unless it is a feedback thread or one where DBB was a big contributor (the DVD and "What Movie Did you watch today" threads) There are countless duplicate threads being posted in the Toy sections and the Mods don't even care. In the last 2 weeks they have destroyed their reputation, pissed a lot of people off, all with out an explaination. >:(
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 03:44 PM
Not to mention the now 30 hours of silence to my legitimate question...

No email reply as of yet.  I'm going to have to contact TRU about this crap if I don't hear from him soon.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 29, 2005, 04:03 PM
The thread was closed with no answer for you or an expalination and then when you start a new thread re-asking it they just tell you to mail Philip. Make sure you use an E-mail address where you don't mind spam. ::) He'll probably find a way to steal your address book too.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 29, 2005, 04:37 PM
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Please don't forget the "Get a life" comment there Josh...

Don't worry, I didn't.

Look, I'm not the Rebelscum apologist or anything. I didn't post here to defend Philip.  All I was saying is that the email really didn't bother me, and it's a very small price to have to pay after years of membership.

But yes, the way he handled the reaction by the users was "rude" at best, and I can see why those of you who were directly called out are angry.  As for all the locked threads, at least they weren't deleted. That IMHO, is even worse.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 29, 2005, 05:19 PM
How about this... Stop clicking on the little links on his site! Whenever I shop online, I use a link on a quality site like GalacticHunter or something of the like. Also, when at C3, don't buy any autographs. They will be cheaper online anyway! If you want to meet the actor, stick by them and eventually you might be able to have a small chat.

Stop helping this dickhole!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 29, 2005, 05:31 PM
Who needs Rebelscum when you have JD?  Urge a fellow scummer to come over here.  After all, 'scum is just a dumb website.  You'd think who the hell Phillip is.  He's nobody.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Broem on March 29, 2005, 07:07 PM
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Please don't forget the "Get a life" comment there Josh...

Don't worry, I didn't.

Look, I'm not the Rebelscum apologist or anything. I didn't post here to defend Philip.  All I was saying is that the email really didn't bother me, and it's a very small price to have to pay after years of membership.

But yes, the way he handled the reaction by the users was "rude" at best, and I can see why those of you who were directly called out are angry.  As for all the locked threads, at least they weren't deleted. That IMHO, is even worse.  ;D

I totally agree. I thought the email was kind of odd since I never got any from RS.  It took me a minute to figure our what was going on there.  But he was incredibly rude wiht his comments. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ryan on March 29, 2005, 07:35 PM
His comments pissed me off much more than the spam. I can deal with that but telling us to get a life? Without us, Phil is out of business... not the smartest move on his part.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 29, 2005, 08:16 PM
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Who needs Rebelscum when you have JD?  Urge a fellow scummer to come over here.  After all, 'scum is just a dumb website.  You'd think who the hell Phillip is.  He's nobody.

Who needs it?  I for one do.  The people who have populated a 5 page thread about it apparently do.


Look...let's call a spade a spade.

if everyone from RS migrated over here, that would be one thing.  But as it stands, this site has like....1/10th (at best) of the active population of Rebelscum.  I like the cozy atmosphere here at JD, but it's just not fun to post in a random topic and wait three days for a reply.  Call it A.D.D, but I like my forum conversations to move a little faster than that.

The only time I see a topic with 5 pages in a one day period over here is (Drum roll) when it's about RS.

As fun as it is to gripe when the admins over there fly off the handle, promote or ban a moderator, or lock a post......it doesn't make me want to give up the daily interaction with my fellow fans to come over here and listen to the crickets chirping.

RS has Wuher's.  They have constant news and conversation in every collecting section I care about.  They have the Seattle community (whose closest and only rival resides at GH).  On top of all that, they have more news than any other site out there with very few exceptions.

If it takes a spam mail or two every once in awhile, or I have to watch while GNT or Lady Jaye locks a thread for post padding (and chuckle at the irony)....I can deal with it.


Everything I just said aside, I like JD. There are a lot of websites I enjoy and this is one of them. It's a fun place, where more than a few people I enjoy talking to hang out.  And you know what?  Someday, if JD ever gets big and interesting enough to be a "daily hangout", I'll be happy to switch my allegiances and never look back. 

Today is unfortunately not that day.  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2005, 08:27 PM
Yeah but for the most part the 'fellow fans' over at Rebelscum are 9 year olds.   Meanwhile, it's been almost 36 hours and I've gotten no response as to why my work email is on their spam list and when it is going to be removed.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Chris on March 29, 2005, 09:05 PM
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Who needs Rebelscum when you have JD?  Urge a fellow scummer to come over here.  After all, 'scum is just a dumb website.  You'd think who the hell Phillip is.  He's nobody.

Who needs it?  I for one do.  The people who have populated a 5 page thread about it apparently do.


Look...let's call a spade a spade.

if everyone from RS migrated over here, that would be one thing.  But as it stands, this site has like....1/10th (at best) of the active population of Rebelscum.  I like the cozy atmosphere here at JD, but it's just not fun to post in a random topic and wait three days for a reply.  Call it A.D.D, but I like my forum conversations to move a little faster than that.

The only time I see a topic with 5 pages in a one day period over here is (Drum roll) when it's about RS.

As fun as it is to gripe when the admins over there fly off the handle, promote or ban a moderator, or lock a post......it doesn't make me want to give up the daily interaction with my fellow fans to come over here and listen to the crickets chirping.

RS has Wuher's.  They have constant news and conversation in every collecting section I care about.  They have the Seattle community (whose closest and only rival resides at GH).  On top of all that, they have more news than any other site out there with very few exceptions.

If it takes a spam mail or two every once in awhile, or I have to watch while GNT or Lady Jaye locks a thread for post padding (and chuckle at the irony)....I can deal with it.


Everything I just said aside, I like JD. There are a lot of websites I enjoy and this is one of them. It's a fun place, where more than a few people I enjoy talking to hang out.  And you know what?  Someday, if JD ever gets big and interesting enough to be a "daily hangout", I'll be happy to switch my allegiances and never look back. 

Today is unfortunately not that day.  ;D

I have to jump in here, sorry Josh. RebelScum news? I won't comment there as it would be rude on my part, but when you say they have constant news and updates in the forums? Have you seen Wuher's? It is 90% bull****. ROTS forum? Kids bickering at one another. Saga, OTC, same thing. The ONLY thing I will give you is their Vintage section which is great, as are their store reports section. I'm going to defend (no pun intended) my site when I say you do not wait days for a reply and all replies here (with natural exceptions here and there) are of the highest adult quality. You have not and will not get that at RebelScum. I HOPE that this site NEVER becomes like RebelScum, and as long as I work here, it will not. If and most likely when our traffic is that of theirs, it will be pruned of the ignorance and child-like qualities. I promise that however much traffic is ever here, even that of 10x RebelScum, we will not have their problems. Period.

I want to say in public that I often have disagreed with Josh in these matters but have no hard feelings- that would be child-like and ridiculous. I enjoy reading Josh's posts and believe he is a worthwhile member of Star Wars collecting. We have competition and always will. I am obviously for the site that I work for and will defend it within reason. Josh is 100% correct when he says we do not have the amounts of traffic in the forums that Scum has. It would be great if we had more traffic, every site on the web can say that. I believe our content and quality is better than RebelScum. That is for our readers to decide though. We simply do the best we can.

With that said, you all need to get a life.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 29, 2005, 10:13 PM
I'll be happy to switch my allegiances and never look back. 

Today is unfortunately not that day.  ;D

Thank God for small favors  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 29, 2005, 10:50 PM
I usually am the one instigating these conversations,but I have held back until now. The only reason I go to scum is because the Dallas collectors all seem to congregate there. These guys are some of the best collector I have the priveldge of knowing, genereous ,helpful, all around good people. So I will continue to go there until a more suitable nest is made.

 I think everyone knows I had my fall outs publicly with Phillip and not so publicly.  I visit regularly here at and of course GH. I posted tonight(over at scum), ironically, the reason why I come to these two sights(JD and GH). First the news content can be counted on and reliable. The content  doesn't change two or threee day after it first is dropped. THese guys are more focused on getting the news accurate rather than being first.  I would be extremely embaraassed as a webmaster if the one of the important facets of my website constantly failed its audience. If I focused on News I would rather the news be right than first. but I guess that just me I suppose I wold rather error on the side of caution.

I'm glad I part of the broader community of starwars and when I cross the street to change scenery I'm just as welcomed here as I am at GH thanks to this community.     
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: D_B_B on March 29, 2005, 10:56 PM
I think it's funny they can't find the time to address KZB's problem but Dustin has time to start stupid threads about Coke commercials.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 29, 2005, 11:17 PM
With that said, you all need to get a life.

 ;D



Good one, boss.   ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on March 29, 2005, 11:49 PM
Does Dallas have a collecting club?  Of all the forums I frequent, nothing comes close to the content and comraderie I get from PSWCS (http://www.pswcs.com).  We have about 220 members now, and have an E-mail list where people post stuff all day long.  I get immediate store sightings to my inbox, along with great conversation.  And that's not even mentioning the monthly meetings where we swap stories and toys.

Anyway, if you're not in a collecting club, you should be!
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 29, 2005, 11:52 PM
Anyway, if you're not in a collecting club, you should be!

What the hell do you think JediDefender is, Bill?!   ;)

Yeah, we're a little more spread out than your average "local" collecting club, but still...  At least we get to hold our Collecting Club meetings all over the country, from MN to TN to CA...   8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 29, 2005, 11:57 PM
I'll state this again, if you are unhappy with management at said **** hole, start a Finds Thread here.  Your actions in doing so means you are hitting Pappy Wise where it really hurts, his pocket book

The way he has run TheForce.net and the former BHC in the ground should be reason enough to give him the collective finger

All that man sees is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and as others have said, I'm not at all jealous that he can make a buck off of us, but I think any other site leader out there is 1000000 times the person Philip Wise is and will ever be, this is just further proof of the fact that he cares nothing for the fans and only about the money and to me, that is disgusting
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 12:12 AM
I wish there was a way for someone to get into the "freeze@Rebelscum.com" e-mail account, and send out another mass/spamming e-mail to all of their members, with Philip's "Get a life" blurb included in it...  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on March 30, 2005, 12:21 AM
Anyway, if you're not in a collecting club, you should be!

What the hell do you think JediDefender is, Bill?!   ;)

Yeah, we're a little more spread out than your average "local" collecting club, but still...  At least we get to hold our Collecting Club meetings all over the country, from MN to TN to CA...   8)

Well... yeah... I guess.   I should have said "regional collecting club" or something.   :P

If you guys ever hold a Pennsylvania JD meeting, be sure to give me a holler.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 30, 2005, 01:26 AM
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As fun as it is to gripe when the admins over there fly off the handle, promote or ban a moderator, or lock a post......it doesn't make me want to give up the daily interaction with my fellow fans to come over here and listen to the crickets chirping.

Really? After almost 3 years there, I'm tired of being treated like ****. I find it hard to stay loyal and peppy at a site where whenever someone has a suggestion, no case is made, because they monitor and close those threads lightning fast. I'm tired of it...I really don't think I have to deal with it anymore.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 02:11 AM
I just punched out of that ****hole. If I get any form of spam on my email after my public request, I will raise such hell, it will be unfathomable.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2005, 02:32 AM
******' A.

I think I'll compose the most profanity-laced email ever and send it to Phil because I feel like it and don't have a life.  ;)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 30, 2005, 03:07 AM
I finally got some balls and decided to get out of there too...Thanks for giving me some confidence Kevin. :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 03:12 AM
Hey, thats why my personal slogan is "When balls just aren't enough..."

But seriously, thanks for jumping ship too. If I went it alone I'd have a bit of egg on my face after my moving speech. ;)

I'm so glad sites like this exist.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JoshEEE on March 30, 2005, 03:25 AM
This is mainly in reply to Chris, as when I wrote my last reply I was speaking mainly to our good friend Dressel Rebel who said "Who needs RS?" and I said "I do".

Just because I sometimes point out the obvious when people start bashing RS (that it's bigger, and that's reason for a lot of it's problems) doesn't mean I don't like this place. I hope that Chris (and everyone else here) knows that.  

But come on.  As Chris practically said himself, we still need Rebelscum (or a site like it) for a lot of reasons that JD can't currently fulfill.

I mean, if I used JD's thread (which I started) for my Seattle collecting needs:

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=1538.0


I'd be a little short on store reports.

If you take a look at the classified ads, there are still posts from February on the 1st page. Not exactly the best place to find the most deals from fellow collectors on the net.

A quick trip to the front page of Wattos Junkyard reveals topics as old as the middle of the month. Not exactly the best place for the latest random chit chat with Star Wars fans.

I'm not saying JD doesn't have quality stuff here, it just doesn't have traffic to sustain that quality at the same rate as the bigger sites. That's the only reason I don't hit the site every few hours like I do RS.  I still make it point to stop by at least weekly....and that's usually enough to catch up on what's been going on.

After the few years I've been here, I'll still maintain that you don't have to choose "one or the other", as both sites have their merits. It's just like anything else in life. Some days I feel like getting my news from a big site like CNN, and other days I just want to read someone's blog.

Hopefully this post will help smooth over any feathers I may have ruffled with my last one, which again....was not my intent.  My real intent was to point out that RS can't be all bad, or we wouldn't have a 6 page thread still discussing it today. That's all.  ;D


Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jesse James on March 30, 2005, 04:00 AM
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If you guys ever hold a Pennsylvania JD meeting, be sure to give me a holler.

I think that'd ammount to myself, Bob, and you Bill....  ;)  I just don't run into PA guys much.  I think they do consider PSWCS their home.  I don't personally, but only because I can't abide email servers anymore...  I stick with Pittsburgh's local forum since it's the best for the local guys, and that's generally enough PA stuff for me.

I do like to think of myself as a pseudo-PSWCS member though since I did try it briefly, and since the meetings are always on my priority list.

Anyway, as far as content though, I have to agree with Chris that while there's some things Scum has that fulfill a need, I can't say that they're dominant in any way. 

I look through the customs area there, however it has degenerated in the past year +, and I think FFURG.com does a better service to the customizing hobby.  Rebelscum is generally filled with people looking for praise.

Rebelscum's vintage area has taken a nosedive.  While there are still many of the knowledgeable folks there, many have also headed off for greener fields as well, and the truly knowledgeable there don't always speak up anymore.  I can't blame them either considering some of the people they've had invade that area.

The older collection areas (POTF2,E1, etc.) are more often than not just BAD conversation...  People asking for prices, value, etc.  I can't exactly look at that as quality. 

Newer collecting areas (OTC, ROTS, etc.) are more often than not filled with A) the condescending, arrogant, ego-manaical pricks who (if they were here) would be (or some even are) banned...  B) the "newbies" who come in with the intent of running the show there...  C) the kids who are what they are...  D) the odd person trying to make conversation good.  I stress that D is the minority.

Other Collectibles, Lego, and their film/EU areas tend to have more traffic.  More people with more questions and such, but also these areas (especially the film/EU areas where I do go often still) are more and more filling up with what the newer collecting areas have.  A lotta jerks, a lotta kids, and a handful of people that it's fun to talk to.

Trading...  More people is good and bad.  We don't have the issues with bad traders they do, and I have to say that we act more swiftly on any situation that would arise.  For instance, Matkatnadam's blatant scalping of the Lava Vader would have garnered him at the very least a suspension here I would think.  His beligerence on the subject would've been banishment.  Simple as that.  Yet there he is at Scum (What the hell happened to "Collect to Collect" and all that ****?)...  Is that good?  I dunno if that's who I want to converse with personally.

EDIT: BTW, maybe I just don't trade much, but I think I've done 99% of my trading here and 1% at Scum.  More people is ok, but it doesn't necessarilly mean you won't get the job done here either.  Usually when I need something someone here's willing to help first.  AND, the few times I have traded at Scum I've gotten **** from the other end because it's often some new guy with no established record who wants things his way...  Again, is that quality?  Seems riskier than Ebay to me.

Wuher's is a joke compared to here IMO...  Not even a comparison.  I'll take less one-liner responses, good moderating, and generally good mature conversation over that.  Wuher's offers you some good posts, but you have to find them among the sludge that is 80% to 90% of Wuher's conversation.  From entire topics right down to single responses. 

Basically what I'm saying is I don't really want to dig through a 12 page topic to see what the conversation between JoshEEE and JohnH was, when I have to weed through blight's, "Hey that is cool", Yodaboi's, "Sahdut upa you mron!!", or several  ::) ,  :P , or  >:(  ;D  :D 's... 

Oh yeah, and the ever present "Me too!"/"I agree!", of course.

Smaller?  Less traffic?  Maybe...  but I think when I break Rebelscum's traffic down to what I ACTUALLY read, it perhaps evens out, and I'd actually say there's more here I'm actively reading and find interesting.

That's my take...  I started looking this way when Matt pointed my eyes this way...  Long before I even considered a job offer.  This was just better.  This was where the names I knew and appreciated had gone. 

Some stuck by Scum.  Some went to GalacticHunter (more than are at Scum by a longshot in and of itself), and the vast majority came here.  And more have come over since, so I'll never look at Scum's traffic as anything more than clutter I am labored to pick through to actually read the INTERESTING post.  And they sure as **** are rare these days.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Hemish on March 30, 2005, 06:58 AM
I actually never recevied that email , i have to admit that the only things i goto scum for are the Aussie updates, unfortunately try as i have the guys don't really seem to wanna come over here, hey thats cool.
This has got me a little perplexed, when the merge from CSW to the scum forums happened we wouldnt have has that agreement about the emails would we ? because we didn't sign up for those forums but for the CSW one?
I dont pop into wuhers at all , the only other place i do pop into occasionally is their prop forum.
As for traffic at this site i was here when Chris started out at the old jedichris site and was impressed by what he started, and after leaving the internet for 2 years and then coming back on to find JC had becom JD and the site it was i was very happy, Give me quality traffic over quantity of traffic any day.
So when do i become a mod? ;)
Is spamming illegal in the US? cause it is here.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Vator on March 30, 2005, 07:10 AM
But does this entire afair suprise anyone? From all the experiances so many of us have had there, is it any wonder that Phillip would pull something like this? Kinda like what he did to his moderators at TFN last year, or back when we had mass bannings at RS.

That said, I am glad to see some people finally moving on. If Natural Selection is true, then your survival is looking much more probable  :P.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 10:30 AM
Let the record show that we're approaching 48 hours - that's two solid days, and I have no response to my question.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 30, 2005, 10:59 AM
Let the record show that we're approaching 48 hours - that's two solid days, and I have no response to my question.
Granted Phil is most likely a busy person like everyone else here but you would think that since your question was asked in the orignal thred that he could of replied to your comment Zod in this 48 hours.  I would of thought he would of told you an answer before the orignal thread was lock since it was one of the more valid concerns with this issue.

I will end up like alot of you here in opt out of the Scum since it seems the Webmaster of the site doesn't give a damn about his members, since we need to get a life.  This along with the hypcoise of the rules where certain mods can start flame wars with members and other things while another moderator can be demoted for calling a thread stupid.  The only reason I'm waiting is I'm in the middle of a trade once I finsih it I'm gone from there for good, won't be fair for the other member I trading with to just leave. 

Over the past few years that I have trade over at Scum I have had alot of people who have said they were interested but never get back to me usually after I tell other interested parties that these items are no longer avilable because I have a buyer/trader for them.  By the time I decide to see if the orignal person wants it thhose other people that were interested are no longer interested or have already found another one.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:01 AM
In the past when I've emailed him I've always heard back within a few hours.   I'm willing to wait longer, but if I don't hear anything in the next day or two - I'm going to start calling TRU's corporate offices to figure out who the appropriate person to complain to would be.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 30, 2005, 11:07 AM
I'm going to start calling TRU's corporate offices to figure out who the appropriate person to complain to would be.

Why do I get that feeling they will give you this answer:

Please email Philip Wise ( philip@rebelscum.com )
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 30, 2005, 11:20 AM
Quantity or quality.  I made my choice.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:20 AM
I'm going to start calling TRU's corporate offices to figure out who the appropriate person to complain to would be.

Why do I get that feeling they will give you this answer:

Please email Philip Wise ( philip@rebelscum.com )

Only if Dustin works there.



In other news - for those wondering if they are exempt because they originally signed up for CSW and not Rebelscum - I don't think that works:

http://www.rebelscum.com/privacy.asp

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YOUR CONSENT
By using this site, you consent to the collection and use of this information by Rebelscum.com. If we decide to change our privacy policy, we will post those changes on this page so that you are always aware of what information we collect, how we use it, and under what circumstances we disclose it.

Unless they added that very recently to cover their own asses.


Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 30, 2005, 11:36 AM
http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1104922&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post11056481104922

Wise locked that thread because the site in question is not a sponser. What a douche.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 11:51 AM
Wise locked that thread because the site in question is not a sponser. What a douche.

I was watching Philip stare at that thread for quite a while in the "Who's Online" area, and was fully suspecting that was exactly what he was about to do.  Pretty sad that you can no longer discuss any great deals/sites over there for picking up SW collectibles unless Phil stands to profit off of it.

Certainly predictable they are though, I'll give them that much...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Broem on March 30, 2005, 12:21 PM
RS has helped me plenty over the years for information.  Both from the front page to the members inside.   There is a lot of bickering and such but that comes from it being so large.  The only website where I actually dropped off from was SirStevesGuide.com.  I just could not stand that place for some reason.  I think because it was incredibly rude from the members up to the guys running their site. 

I do enjoy coming to JD the most though.  I think it is because people here seem to be more mature.  Even if I am not. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 12:59 PM
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Dear Famine,
 
Your account at Rebelscum Forums has been deleted as per your request.

Sincerely,
Dustin Roberts
www.rebelscum.com

Now, did anyones questions get answered? No.

Kevin

What a mornon I am, I put image tags. :-[
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 30, 2005, 01:51 PM
Does Dallas have a collecting club?  Of all the forums I frequent, nothing comes close to the content and comraderie I get from PSWCS (http://www.pswcs.com).  We have about 220 members now, and have an E-mail list where people post stuff all day long.  I get immediate store sightings to my inbox, along with great conversation.  And that's not even mentioning the monthly meetings where we swap stories and toys.

Anyway, if you're not in a collecting club, you should be!

Bill why must you self promote everything you do.?There something to be said for content over the  bells and whistles. Let things happen naturally, it will for you.  I think your an incredible talented artist as a matter of fact You have more artistic talent in your  finger than I do in my whole body, but  you gotta have some shame somewhere.  ;D. Just tone down the self promoting advertisements it will come to bite you  in the butt sooner or later. It certainly reveals character.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on March 30, 2005, 03:15 PM
Hey now... I was promoting http://PSWCS.com in that message.  That's a collecting club I belong to... and really has nothing to do with my art.

Now if I was plugging http://CreatureCantina.com (which, BTW, has a FANTASTICALLY funny update this week including a story about this whole spamming episode), then you would have a point.   ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 03:20 PM
Shameless Bill, shameless.  Nicely done.  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DSJ™ on March 30, 2005, 03:20 PM
Shameless plug Bill?   :D 

RebelSpam!  (http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/rofl.gif)  Thanks for the laugh Bill, that report is Priceless!  ;D
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 30, 2005, 03:38 PM
[sarcasm]I'm just glad you proved to me there's no truth in my comments. I can admit when I'm wrong.  I'm sure that day will come. [/sarcasm]

 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 03:54 PM
...(which, BTW, has a FANTASTICALLY funny update this week including a story about this whole spamming episode)...

Indeed!  That sucked as much as any suck could possibly suck.  Well done Bill.  8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: D_B_B on March 30, 2005, 03:58 PM
Hey now... I was promoting http://PSWCS.com in that message.  That's a collecting club I belong to... and really has nothing to do with my art.

Now if I was plugging http://CreatureCantina.com (which, BTW, has a FANTASTICALLY funny update this week including a story about this whole spamming episode), then you would have a point.   ;D

HaHa!  I wish someone would post that over at RS...even though it would be closed in record time.  Too bad they can't take care of member problems ( KBZ ) in record time.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 04:29 PM
Apparently two and a half days with 3 posted inquiries and one direct email to the webmaster isn't enough either.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: sfg on March 30, 2005, 05:02 PM
Have fun (http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=bomb&destruction=massive&control=on&url=http://threads.rebelscum.com/ubbthreads.php).

:)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 05:06 PM
Have fun (http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=bomb&destruction=massive&control=on&url=http://threads.rebelscum.com/ubbthreads.php).

Indeed!  If only it were real.  Fun nonetheless...  Thanks!

 :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 05:09 PM
I love you sfg. :-*

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: BillCable on March 30, 2005, 05:24 PM
Shameless Bill, shameless.  Nicely done.  :)

Hey... I have a reputation to maintain.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: ruiner on March 30, 2005, 06:02 PM
Ahhh, my fellow comrades all together...Cable, Zod and the guy that can't spell.   :P

I, too, received that TRU email at work and I am still wondering how the hell that thing got through our spamware and how RS even got it!!

I tell ya, that Wise character is making money hand over fist off of us - he's whoring us out!!

 8)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 07:31 PM
My work is re-locating to a new building starting today and finishing on Monday - until then, the email address in question will be offline - so even if Phillip bothers to write me back, I won't be able to get it.

Time to send a PM I suppose...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: MetalJedi on March 30, 2005, 08:22 PM
Where's the Rebelscum/Hitler logo that Jango Fettish made when you need it?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 30, 2005, 08:56 PM
Looks like S_L_C is squaring off with the administration.


Good luck man.Hope you can bring some more attention to this... (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1106787&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1106787)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 09:07 PM
I cant check their threads out anymore because my account was banned. Not DELETED like I requested.

Just when I think I'm free they found a new way to shank me...

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 09:17 PM
Looks like S_L_C is squaring off with the administration.

I was going to respond to it with the exact response he was going to get, but decided it was probably best not to stir the pot over there any more right now, considering the hoopla I raised over Matkatnadam scalping his Lava Vader on eBay, and over Jimbo being a flaming ******* like usual.

But my bet is the next post in SLC's thread will look something like this:


Thanks for your concern.  The administration will take it under consideration.  If you have any specific questions, feel free to e-mail Philip directly at Philip@Rebelscum.com, so he can then proceed to not read it and ignore you, while you continue to wonder in the ensuing weeks if anyone here gives two ***** about you (we don't).  Please also use a different e-mail account than the one listed in your profile here (preferably your work one), so that we can add it to our mailing list as well.  Thanks.

- Dustin ('cause Phil would never respond to this bull**** nonsense anymore, unless it was to tell you pathetic idiots to "Get a life")

 :P
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on March 30, 2005, 09:23 PM
I cant check their threads out anymore because my account was banned. Not DELETED like I requested.

Just when I think I'm free they found a new way to shank me...

Kevin

Delete the cookies. It's how I got around my ban.

And I don't think it's possible to delete accounts. Another false statement made by Wise.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 30, 2005, 09:42 PM
Wow. Dustin is almost as big an ass as Philip. Is he paid?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 09:51 PM
I was going to respond to it with the exact response he was going to get, but decided it was probably best not to stir the pot over there any more right now, considering the hoopla I raised over Matkatnadam scalping his Lava Vader on eBay, and over Jimbo being a flaming ******* like usual.

But my bet is the next post in SLC's thread will look something like this:


Thanks for your concern.  The administration will take it under consideration.  If you have any specific questions, feel free to e-mail Philip directly at Philip@Rebelscum.com, so he can then proceed to not read it and ignore you, while you continue to wonder in the ensuing weeks if anyone here gives two ***** about you (we don't).  Please also use a different e-mail account than the one listed in your profile here (preferably your work one), so that we can add it to our mailing list as well.  Thanks.

- Dustin ('cause Phil would never respond to this bull**** nonsense anymore, unless it was to tell you pathetic idiots to "Get a life")

 :P

Interesting.  A few minutes after I posted this, I got banned from Rebelscum.  I guess Philip and Dustin are actually reading this thread...   :P

I wonder if everyone else who's posted "not nice" things in here about them is going to get banned as well, or if I'm just getting special attention over there, as usual...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 30, 2005, 10:00 PM
Yep.  Just special attention for me.  Dustin didn't like my post a few minutes ago.  Funny, but I don't recall reading anything in their Forum Rules that says you can't talk **** about them at other forums...

I guess the truth hurts.

This also confirms why Rob/Kneel Before Zod didn't get the moderator position over there a few months back, and also why Scott/OCB got inexplicably banned over there too.  Philip apparently enjoys perusing these RS threads over here at JD when they pop up on occasion, and if you talk too much **** here, there's gonna be hell to pay over there.  Well, at least Phil can get a little more constructive criticism on his ****** up forums when he does so.  As if he gives a ****...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 30, 2005, 10:25 PM
Deleted my cookies.

Got in.

Read the occouring chaos. Impresive. Most impresive.

I like how my thread was deleted.

Kevin
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: DoctorPadawan on March 30, 2005, 10:52 PM
Just a quick thought to those of you who still have a RS forums account and can do so (but only with his blessing, of course):

Why doesn't someone post an open thread asking about KBZ's ignored emails and PMs regarding Wise using his personal email address for private correspondence for his own spam mailing list?  If Wise won't answer it in private, maybe someone needs to make that public information as well.

Like I said, I wouldn't do this without KBZ's permission, as given the RS forum's level of maturity, they're liable to call him a "poo poo head" or something equally damaging, but it's obvious that Wise is avoiding the issue and sending his lapdog to lock down the forums so that nothing can get through, so maybe it's time this was taken public.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Diddly on March 30, 2005, 10:57 PM
^^ I think someone tried that already, but the thread was deleted by Philip's new bitch Dustin.

And for some reason, I can't help but laugh at JediMAC being banned. Something about Philip telling everyone to get a life, then reading threads about his site on other forums. ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:11 PM
Phillip responded to the PM - said (somewhat ironically) that his spam filter probably kept him from getting the email and then asked me for the email address in question.

I'm assuming it's being removed.  I do find it a bit ridiculous that you can get banned over there for posting over here - but then again, what can you do...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Logray2776 on March 30, 2005, 11:13 PM
Damn, I am glad i told them to delete my account from there they are gettin downright retarded over there.


Whats the problem with those guys anyway?
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:18 PM
The problem is that no matter how many people get pissed off and leave, they'll always have plenty of little kids signing up en masse in great enough quantities to continue bringing in the advertising dollars.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 30, 2005, 11:19 PM
http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=90821

Wow. It's such a coincidence that Philip is the one who posted that little news nugget...
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Logray2776 on March 30, 2005, 11:22 PM
Thats a very valid point there KBZ, but on the bright side i wont have to worry with them anymore.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Scott on March 30, 2005, 11:23 PM
Spuffy has the right idea (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=6820.new#new)

There is no reason why the same conversations and finds and trades can't be happening here instead of that cess pool.  I'm not exactly sure why this isn't sinking in.  All you need to do to convince people to abandon ship is point out this...

Get a life and move along.  (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB12&Number=1102372&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1100792&Search=true&where=&Name=2&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1102372)

Tell Phil Wise to shove it and come on over here, like I said, hit him where it count$ the mo$t  He obviously cares two ***** about his community, he only care$ about the revenue it bring$ in
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 30, 2005, 11:32 PM
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I'm not sure what you need answers to but if it is the thread about Philip and the so called spam, he clearly stated he was done discussing it.
I think this sums up everyone's thoughts/expectations about how their Feedback and Suggestions section works...they have no idea they're being bitches, do they? ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Rob on March 30, 2005, 11:43 PM
Ahhh, my fellow comrades all together...Cable, Zod and the guy that can't spell.   :P

I, too, received that TRU email at work and I am still wondering how the hell that thing got through our spamware and how RS even got it!!

I tell ya, that Wise character is making money hand over fist off of us - he's whoring us out!!

 8)

Good decision!

Welcome aboard - and tell all your friends.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on March 30, 2005, 11:58 PM
Ahhh, my fellow comrades all together...Cable, Zod and the guy that can't spell.   :P

I, too, received that TRU email at work and I am still wondering how the hell that thing got through our spamware and how RS even got it!!

I tell ya, that Wise character is making money hand over fist off of us - he's whoring us out!!

 8)

Dude! Glad to see you here!
I went by Balki at RS until recently. Spuffy started up a Iowa finds thread, so please, join us!  :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 12:06 AM
I guess this ends my Rebelscum era of posting.   Get a Life (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107096&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107096)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 31, 2005, 12:08 AM
I guess this ends my Rebelscum era of posting.   Get a Life (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107096&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107096)

I don't think Depmode likes you. ;)

I'm glad I'm not the only one making the switch.

BTW...DId I ever trade with you....maybe a year ago? Or was that another Darth ________? :)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Darth Kenobi on March 31, 2005, 12:11 AM
I guess this ends my Rebelscum era of posting.   Get a Life (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1107096&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1107096)

I don't think Depmode likes you. ;)

I'm glad I'm not the only one making the switch.

BTW...DId I ever trade with you....maybe a year ago? Or was that another Darth ________? :)

I don't care what kids think of me over there.    Most of the people that I know like are either here or GH.   
I'm not sure if we traded before I think it was probally another Darth over there.

EDIT: 
If any Rebelscum admins are reading this (IE Philip and Dustin) you guys are a bunch of idiots.   You run your site like a certain movie character which meet a very long fall. 
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Famine on March 31, 2005, 12:26 AM
They police Wuhers and the Feedback thread like a military state, but when it comes to the customs section, or the movie area, you can have 2 or 3 of the same threads, asking the same question, and thats alright.

I wonder when the Fuhrer will finnaly lose.

I doubt he will because he'll always have the latest 11 year olds swearing and talking l33t to feed his marketing gods.

Kevin

Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ook on March 31, 2005, 12:27 AM
I got that e-mail the other day. I don't even remember what it was about; I deleted it as soon as I got it. Funny thing is I had a bogus e-mail listed, and just changed it to my real one, then got the mailing. Anyway, I hadn't noticed the uproar until tonight's "Get A Life..." thread at RS. Guess I'll put another bogus address in. I just read Wise's response to the the subject on his forum. He sure is a ****sucker.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 31, 2005, 12:37 AM
Hey Famine....don't forget the EU Figures Section that's really just a place for people to post "Hey! I Have No Idea What I'm Doing Here! Isn't The CW Cartoon Cool?!"

Ugh. They really need to get their act together.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 12:43 AM
**DON'T FORGET TO $TOP BY TRU FOR MIDNIGHT MADNE$$!**
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: The Collector on March 31, 2005, 12:47 AM
You can't post what movies you watched today, but you can post pictures of Star Wars potatoes. ::)

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1106897&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post11070941106897

And by Dustin no less. I wouldn't be surprised if this was made a sticky topic.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Ben on March 31, 2005, 03:12 AM
That tool Dustin made a post regarding the Early Bird set. It was about an online auction, and it actually had the figure pictures with it.

Well, he didn't link to it, and I searched ebay high and low, and didn't find it, so I say he's full of **** and talking out his ass.

To misquote the movie Rain Man, "Dude, RS sucks."
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: JediMAC on March 31, 2005, 04:02 AM
I always thought that Dustin was one of the few cool/decent guys over at RS, and never really had much of a problem with him before.  Though I knew he was Philip's right hand man, I was always under the assumption that Dustin was still his own man however.

But apparently you guys have been right all along.  He's very much 50 feet up Philip's ass, and will continue to play his bitch for a long time to come I think, since Philip doesn't seem too interested in addressing most issues over there anymore.  I feel rather sorry for Dustin actually, since I'm sure he knows deep down that he's working for a total prick, who's completely screwed over much of the collecting community, and could care less about them outside of what they can contribute to his pocketbook...

And it's still total bull**** that Philip even has those forums in the first place, since they got handed to him on a silver platter by Mike at GH when they merged several years ago.  Prior to that, RS had the "Rebel Lounge", which had all of about 20 or so members in it, and now look what a post whore machine it's turned into...  ::)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jediknight760071 on March 31, 2005, 05:09 AM
Speaking of kids....What a great time for this thread... (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1106108&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1106108) :-\

EDIT: Nice try Darth Kenobi, but your thread was.........DELETED. :-X
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Vator on March 31, 2005, 07:20 AM
Now see, that kid's a dumbass. As are all the RS suck up members (even though I sorta was one when I was..uh, 12).

And welcome to all those that have finally left RS. You're that much better for it.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Xander on March 31, 2005, 08:25 AM
Well this whole situation has been rather eye-opening.  (More so than GNT's annoying (http://threads.rebelscum.com/images/icons/eek.gif) that's posted for every little thing.)

"Get a life" - that's the turning point for me.  And all these bannings?  How long before Martha Stewart's gone?  I detected some thoughtfulness in those posts, so it looks like curtains for him(her). Geez, ROTS is really bringing out the best in everybody.  Wuher's has dwindled down to nothing. I can't get any good info in the ROTS section from all the speculation. What else is there?  Vintage always has good info from the hardcore crowd, but they might as well be their own forum anyway.

I'll say this, I read JD a lot more than I post here. (I don't want to bring the place down.)
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jjks on March 31, 2005, 10:32 AM
Dustin's over here as we speak, more than likely reading this very thread. How about you take this opportunity to prove you aren't just Phil's puppet as so many people think and admit he was dead wrong with how he's been treating his members.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 31, 2005, 11:03 AM
Dustin's over here as we speak, more than likely reading this very thread. How about you take this opportunity to prove you aren't just Phil's puppet as so many people think and admit he was dead wrong with how he's been treating his members.

Can't do that, the honorable Mr. Wise might read it too. :-\
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2005, 11:11 AM
It would be hilarious (and painfully obvious what would happen) for Dustin to speak his mind here.  It'd no doubt cost him his gig over there so there is no way he'd say anything here.

It is fun to watch all the traffic here though... quite a few of RS's mods/admins have been over here for a look-see and no doubt are discussing this ****-storm over in their secret admin forums.

I still think that the SPAM mail sucked, but I understand it was a part of the "business" side of RS.  I get that - money is the end reason for actions over at RS now, not the users.  It's a hobby that became a business.

I just think it was pretty crappy to tell off his forum members the way he did with a "if you don't like it you can go home" attitude.  Very un-professional, but I guess if I had to deal with all the dumbasses over there on a regular basis like he does, my patience would be worn thin too.   :P

Jeff
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: jokabofe on March 31, 2005, 11:42 AM
It is fun to watch all the traffic here though... quite a few of RS's mods/admins have been over here for a look-see and no doubt are discussing this ****-storm over in their secret admin forums.

Which is kinda funny, 'cause I tried to access their forums to see what all the hoopla was about, I was able to get in last night and read a few threads, but this morning I tried to go back and finish up my reading and my account has been locked or deleted.

Huh?

I haven't posted there in months, hell I've barely posted here in months (and I'm a staff member here) - but suddenly my account has been locked.

Oh well, **** 'em.
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Morgbug on March 31, 2005, 11:56 AM
This is rich (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1106787&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1106787)

What a silly way to handle things.  I can only hope those guys aren't parents, because their kids are going to grow up and be pretty darn weird.  I'm sorry, but a feedback and suggestion forum needs discussion, not a single opinion on what constitutes a valid answer. ::) 

I really don't spend much time there and I admit I followed this thread, but never really went to see the hoopla.  It's unfortunate I did, it reminds me why I visit only the vintage and BST sections over there.  Yikes. 

Has ruling with an iron fist ever proven productive (or constructive, for that matter) in history?  I suppose for a short period of time, but all Empires run that way crumble in time.  I guess it's fairly critical right now to maintain order though, this may be the last, big run at bringing in corporate dollars.  If Scott's assessment is correct, and I suspect it is at least to a certain degree, RS will probably shut it's doors within a year simply because of lost financial opportunities.  This is the last movie, so you gotta make what you can while you can.  Fans are fickle and clearly the hardcore, long term fans are not terribly important.  More malleable minds bring in more dollars, one would suppose.

tick.....tick.....tick....
Title: Re: Rebelscum Spam Mail? WTF???
Post by: Infamy Of Crete on March 31, 2005, 12:31 PM
Morgbug-

I stated the samething over at GH Star wars will never be hotter than it is right now and continue for about 6 months after the releaase of the film. Slowly the influx of newbies to fansites will die and those of us who are in it for the long haul will still  remain. I find it strange the some how  a collective of fans get's this notion yet a "Webmaster" of a uh hum, "Fan Based" site doesn't get it . I've worked next to him at toyfairs and I've even jumped news  on him when I was working for