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Title: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Scott on July 27, 2007, 03:47 PM
Qui Gon, Bultarr Swan and Luke!
Darth Bane, Darth Nhilus, Darth Maul
Mandalore, Jango Fett, Boba Fett

The last one has me wet
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2007, 03:48 PM
I was just reading that too, great news that these are coming back.  It was a great concept that was too short lived previously, and the sets planned sound pretty good.  The fact that we're getting Qui-Gon is cool enough on its own :).
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 27, 2007, 04:07 PM
Agreed but not so sure I like the choices...  Where's the Rebel Trooper set?  Bah, and the Jedi set's different, but why not Obi-Wan E1, QGJ, and then fill the 3rd slot with whatever?  Curious choices there...

The Sith one's inclusion of Maul's odd too I think...  Whatever though.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 27, 2007, 04:08 PM
Ahhh! no love for Obi-wan EP I & II
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2007, 04:12 PM
Fett is just in too many products- I know he sells, but seriously, we should start a thread to find out how many Boba Fetts some of us have after 12 years of modern collecting. I bet I have 12 or more, and I haven't even been trying.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2007, 04:15 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping the fact that these sets are even coming back will open the doors to some of the sets we've really wanted to see like an Obi-Wan set, a Padme set, a Rebel Trooper set, and others.  I am glad that we can hopefully get a nice SA Qui-Gon and Jango out of these though.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Scott on July 27, 2007, 04:19 PM
A new ESB decoed SA Boba Fett is the last Fett I hope to ever buy...I still want one though

A SA Jango is also sorely needed...I agree I'd of liked to have seen an Obi-Wan or Padme set though too
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Morgbug on July 27, 2007, 04:21 PM
Fett is just in too many products- I know he sells, but seriously, we should start a thread to find out how many Boba Fetts some of us have after 12 years of modern collecting. I bet I have 12 or more, and I haven't even been trying.

Funny, I'm just about the opposite.  I've gone through my loose collection in its entirety over the last couple of days and you know what?  I have maybe 4 Boba Fett figures (not including baby Boba).  

VOTC
Pit of Carkoon
UGH (which is POC with a silver base)
POTF2

Where the heck the rest went, I've no idea, but missing all those figures is the least of my concerns but it sure reminds me there's a box of figures hidden somewhere in this house :-\

I like the Evo packs in general.  Not sure if I'll actually buy any of those, none has me particularly excited.  Once I see them I'll probably cave in.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on July 27, 2007, 04:31 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/SDCC07/Hasbropanel/IMG_3206.JPG)

Not bad, but also not the best choices of figures I don't think.

The Mandalorian set though is gonna be HOT.

 :P
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 27, 2007, 04:38 PM
Funny that Luke & Bultar are the almost identical in size and shape.  Definately buying lots of those.  We need female Jedi in traditional robes.  The other I'd say only 1 of each.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Matt on July 27, 2007, 04:45 PM
To me, it's unfortunate that the new Qui-Gon's being released in a $20-25 set, with a couple of Exhausted Universe characters that I couldn't care less about, instead of in the basic line.

They first mentioned the new Qui-Gon a long time ago in the Q & A's, and then he kind of fell off the radar--I wonder if he wasn't originally slated for the basic line, and then they decided to move him into the new Evolutions line instead. . .

EDIT:  Maybe Bultar Swan's not an EU character after all, I don't know, but she may as well be.  Still couldn't care less about her.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 27, 2007, 04:48 PM
What's up with Boba's head he either has no hair or white hair.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Matt on July 27, 2007, 04:49 PM
I think he's wearing a hooded body-suit type thing.  It's just covering up his hair.

Here's a better shot from SSG:

(http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/5416/SCC_3371_resize.JPG)

Couldn't care less about the Mandolorian, but--good Christ--the Fetts look good. . .
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on July 27, 2007, 05:02 PM
I agree with that it sucks to see the only way to get what appears to be a good Qui Gon is in this set.  I'm glad to get the Bultar Swan though and am glad she's getting attention from Hasbro all of a sudden.  As for Luke, while I'm not totally excited about, will be fun to have a NJO figure of.
 
Now the Sith is really disappointing to me, in terms of character selection - Darth Bane, to me has always looked very stupid.

(http://images3.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/3/3f/Darthbane.jpg/375px-Darthbane.jpg)

What a lame design, he really looks like some sort of He-Man design or something.  I'll use it only for custom parts, if even that.  It's not Hasbro's fault that he's such a stupid design but I'm surprised they went with him given how non-Star Wars he looks.

Darth Nihilus, on the other hand is VERY welcome to the line.  Evil looking and personifies the feel of the Sith. 

As for Darth Maul, I hate the shirtless design almost as much as Darth Bane.  I'd rather see something like a ROTJ version of Palpatine.

The Fett set looks amazing!  I'm so glad they are doing this.  Look at Mandalore!!  wow he looks great!  Ultimate custom fodder here plus it's just cool looking as is!  Boba is fine but look at Jango!  Whoo hoo, this is such a great set, count me in for a few!

 :P
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Ryan on July 27, 2007, 05:08 PM
That's pretty cool they include the pilot headset there for Jango... Bultar Swan and Bane I really could do without, but the rest I'm really excited for. I hope that this line lives past these three sets. Evolutions is perhaps my favorite subline, beating out VOTC due to the better price.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: brian_peppers on July 27, 2007, 05:10 PM
oh i wish that this was out now i want the jedi and sith evolutions sets soooo much and it comes with nihilus and bultar swan
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Diddly on July 27, 2007, 05:28 PM
I'm only interested in the Qui-Gon and the Fetts but damn these sets look good. Evolutions was terrific in 2005 and I'm very glad to see them returning. The only one I'll pass on is the Sith set.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Artoo on July 27, 2007, 05:59 PM
Finally! A Super-Articulated, Qui-Gon, ESB Boba & Jango! Thank you Hasbro! Thank you!

The Sith set isn't that interesting.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 27, 2007, 06:30 PM
This is probably the most welcome surprise in a while from Hasbro.  The Evolutions sets were my favorite figures from the ROTS-era line, and to see them continue is just great.  I could do without the second Sith set and the NJO Luke, but that Fett set is pure gold, and Qui-Gon looks to be amazing.  I've been really rough on the upcoming 30AC Poncho Jango just because I wanted a total SA version, but it looks like we'll be getting it sooner rather than later. 

Here's to hoping that we get that Episode I/II/IV Obi-Wan Evolutions set soon, too. :)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Artoo on July 27, 2007, 06:57 PM
Yeah an Obi set should happen. So should Luke (Farmboy, Hoth Pilot & DS II), Padme (Servant Disguise, Arena & Buns) & Leia (Buns, Hoth & Slave).
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: evenflow on July 27, 2007, 06:59 PM
I am really liking the sith and mandalorian set. I am also excited for a new qui-gon. I guess i like them all.  :P
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Rune Haako on July 27, 2007, 07:29 PM
(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/2007_SDCC/Hasbro_Panel/Picture17__scaled_600.jpg)

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/2007_SDCC/Hasbro_Panel/Picture18__scaled_600.jpg)

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/2007_SDCC/Hasbro_Panel/Picture19__scaled_600.jpg)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: JangoTat on July 27, 2007, 08:35 PM
ill get one of each..but qui gon doesnt look so great  :-\
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on July 27, 2007, 09:02 PM
AWESOME NEWS!  I like the character choices, too!  The only picking points?

-SITH - I might have gone with Vader (Order 66 / pre-Mustafar duel) for this set, with angry face, Sith eyes, etc over another shirtless Darth Maul.  But that POTJ figure did have some serious issues.

-JEDI - NJO Luke, huh?  When I first saw the character listing I was hoping for a Death Star 2 Luke.  Other than that I think it's a really cool set.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: BrentS on July 27, 2007, 09:07 PM
I'm all over these sets.  I love just about everything in them.  Thank you Hasbro for bringing the Evolutions back!!
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darby on July 27, 2007, 09:16 PM
LOVE the Evolutions.  Really glad Hasbro is going back to it.  Not so thrilled with the choices either, but the SA Qui Gon, Jango, Boba, and Bultarr are all very welcome and exciting.  Here's hoping for lots more.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Famine on July 27, 2007, 09:21 PM
That Mando set is breathtaking. I wanna be on it.

Kevin

Fake Edit:

No troop builder set?
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 09:36 PM
I'm not too into EU - but I like all three of these.  I'm cool with EU stuff if it's high quality, new stuff.

I like the Sith set most. 
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: evenflow on July 27, 2007, 09:37 PM
The Sith set even looks even better in that pic. I cannot wait for it.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on July 27, 2007, 09:40 PM
I like all 3 of them.  Finding them will be an adventure...as usual.  That Darth Nihilus (sp?) looks very nice.  Yeah, finally an SA Jinn and Jango.  Of course it was only a matter of time before we got a removeable helmet Fett.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Matt R. on July 27, 2007, 10:31 PM
Yes, on the return of the evolutions. I am not getting the Sith one but Jedi, and Maldos, Hell yeah. Finally an SA ESB Colors Boba Fett and SA Jango Fett.  ;D
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 27, 2007, 11:32 PM
I dig all three sets. They all have their pros and cons.

Jedi: Finally an SA Qui-gon. Glad to have an accurate Bultar Swan. (But that now makes me on the fence for teh comic 2-pack with her in it.) NJO Luke is "meh" to me.

Sith: Nihlus!!! YES! Maul looks to be an big improvement over the previous shirtless one, so I'll bite. Bane is odd looking, but nt too bad for me.

Mandos: SA JANGO! Mandalore is ok. Different and doesn't quite feel SW enough. Removable Helmet Boba! Awesome. I don't at all mind the white latex hoody on him. This looks to be the same head as the TAC Stormtrooper, now with white instead of black.

All in all decent sets. I want several Qui-gons, so I knw I'm going to have extra Lukes and Bultars, but those make for good custom fodder.

Thankfully there is only a need for one set of the Sith.

Now the Mandos...Dang, I want several Jangos (5-8) and 3 Bobas. I don't need more than 1 Mandolore. So it looks like I'll have some extra there. I'll prolly trade those extra Mandos off.

Good marks to Hasbro for tehse 3 sets. Not quite an A+. I'd give the total of the 3 sets a B+ to an A-.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Diddly on July 28, 2007, 01:02 AM
I've changed my tune on that Sith set. I may switch Maul's head with the original Evolution Maul.

Dammit, I want these now!
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: efranks on July 28, 2007, 02:36 PM
I'm all in favor of all the figures that are making these sets but I wish they'd leave the Evolutions name alone and do these as single-pack or comic 2-pack figure sets. 

They don't make sense as an evolution IMO, not like a set of Obi-Wan or the Anakin and Trooper sets from 2005 did.  I'd rather have the option of picking and choosing.  I like the Nihilus figure but don't care for Maul or Bane.  The rest are all pretty decent with the Jango and Fett looking really nice.

I just think it looks like Hasbro caved to the collector's desire for Evo sets even though I don't think they make sense.

   E...
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on July 28, 2007, 07:13 PM
I'm all in favor of all the figures that are making these sets but I wish they'd leave the Evolutions name alone and do these as single-pack or comic 2-pack figure sets. 

They don't make sense as an evolution IMO, not like a set of Obi-Wan or the Anakin and Trooper sets from 2005 did.  I'd rather have the option of picking and choosing.  I like the Nihilus figure but don't care for Maul or Bane.  The rest are all pretty decent with the Jango and Fett looking really nice.

I just think it looks like Hasbro caved to the collector's desire for Evo sets even though I don't think they make sense.

   E...

I think I understand where you're coming from.  But I think that there's been a significant level of demand for a few of these figures individually like Qui-Gon, Jango Fett, Boba Fett and to a lesser degree Darth Bane and Darth Nihilus. 

I think there's a bit of a wrinkle in the situation by virtue of the way Hasbro is trying to theme the waves, and that it may prove difficult to generate an entire wave that's suited to those characters.  And I think that becomes an even bigger consideration when Hasbro has already stated that the second half of 2008 is going to be devoted to Clone Wars.  So it looks like space in the 2008 line is at a premium, and perhaps an EU wave which might hold NJO Luke & Darth Bane got ruled out in favor of an OT wave.  Where to put them?  How about Evolutions?!

As for the actual Evolution process?  I think that the figures were photographed out of an evolutionary order just so they would make for nicer pictures.  Hence Mandalore flanked by both Boba Fett and then Jango Fett.  Obviously the order there should be Mandalore, then Jango and finally Boba Fett.  As for the Jedi set?  Qui-Gon is significantly taller than Luke or Bultar Swan, so he's in the middle of that photo for that reason.  But the order there should be Qui-Gon Jinn > Bultar Swan > Luke Skywalker.  And by that same token you'll probably see the Sith set packaged with Darth Nihilus > Darth Bane > Darth Maul in the historic progression of the Sith.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 28, 2007, 08:29 PM
I want that Boba.  I'll trade or sell off the other 2 Mandalores to you guys just so I can get that Fett!
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: commandernarra on July 28, 2007, 11:03 PM
The differences in the evolutions set this time around could be killer for those that don't enjoy the EU.
I could conceivably see sets based around themes like "heroines of the galaxy" which could have nomi sunrider, hoth leia, and jaina solo. Maybe the "solo clan" with Han bespin, leia organa solo, and jacen solo,
rather than just padme sets, obi wan sets etc. Hasbro is all out for the EU now, and also wants to work in novel characters, older versions of core characters etc, and this could be their forum.
I'm all over this idea, and just sitting typing could think of so many more.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 29, 2007, 04:14 AM
Darth Nihilius! Whoo! I must say, all three of these sets are very impressive and of everything shown, these are probably what i will be most looking forward to. Mandalore is a welcome addition as well, now I'll have someone to lead all those new Mandalorian warriors from that EE set.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Reid on July 29, 2007, 02:12 PM
Sweet! Awesomeness overload! I love the Sith one... Nice to see more KOTOR.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: ctonra on July 29, 2007, 09:41 PM
I love them all, I want them all i wish they were out now,   they all look sweet,  great for customs    ;D
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: starwax137 on July 29, 2007, 11:53 PM
I'm thinking I would be a lot more excited about Bane if they made him from before he got his funky orbalisk armor. Something more like this:

(http://images2.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/09/Bane_sabre.jpg)

If someone wants to resize that image, that'd be great. I'm afraid my picture-posting skills are somewhat limited.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 30, 2007, 10:03 AM
I'm excited about the Qui-Gon and the Fetts. Everyone else I can leave.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: David on July 31, 2007, 12:27 AM
Out of these sets, the two figures that I am most thrilled about are definitely Bultar and Nihilus! Theyre incredible. Jango looks pretty great, too. I am very excited to pick these up! Viva Evolutions!!!
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on July 31, 2007, 01:13 AM
The only one Im not really interested in is Darth Bane. But I'll probably keep him if that orbalisk helmet can come off.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on July 31, 2007, 01:16 AM
Anyone else think Maul's shoulders proves Barry Bonds is on steroids?

 :P
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 31, 2007, 01:41 AM
If Maul played ball I guess. :)

I'm kind of geeked at the randomness of the new packs, and I was pestering Hasbro right off the bat on the Q&A's about Evolutions making a return.  I thought that was the best concept of 2005 that they so quickly just bailed on.  Did anyone honestly see Evolutions in bulk anywhere, much less on sale or something?  $20 for 3 SA figures with lots of crap is a pretty cool deal to me, so I'm really excited at the prospect of the line coming back.  Plus JediMAC said Hasbro told him the line would continue past these 3 new sets as well.  Kickass.

Not wild about some of the character choices, but at least 2 out of 3 in each set is great, and 1 is so-so, so I'm down for these sets.  I do hope they go back to some traditional looks though for characters like Obi-Wan (E1, E2, and E4 would be my 3 choices), Padme (Not sure which 3 you do here honestly), Luke (Tatooine, Hoth, Jedi Duel), and Rebels (Fleet, Hoth, Endor).  Throwing in the EU curveballs is odd.

I'm loving the Fett set though, outstanding...  The Mandalore's cool if you're into the whole Mandalorian thing, the Jango's just simply outstanding (and makes me appreciate the apartment Jango much more), and the Boba is great too with the little hood.  Real cool stuff.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Artoo on July 31, 2007, 05:57 PM
The Maul was a dumb choice, rather of saw another KOTOR sith or maybe Senate Duel Palpatine.

The Jedi chick is a weird choice, good figure but weird. They should of had the ultimate Yoda or soemthing.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: commandernarra on August 3, 2007, 07:37 AM
From everything hasbro has said tin their past QnA's I can't not see future sets containing EU characters.
They Know the demand is their for certain characters, they don't seem to want book characters in the basic line, so we'll likely see sets with padme, leia and jaina, Ep1 obi, luke, and jacen, rather than just padme or obi-wan sets. JMHO.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: I Am Sith on August 3, 2007, 09:10 PM
Although I loved the original Evolutions sets, I'm just ok with these.  I think that the Jedi set is my least favorite and the Sith and Mando sets are tied.  I'll more than likely get all three just because I'm a completist on certain lines (to a fault), but I would have much rather had the SA Qui-Gon and SA Jango as single carded figures.  Or I guess in Jango's case, in the EE 14 Pack that I already ordered  :P
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jesse James on August 4, 2007, 02:13 AM
The big picture to look at is this though...  They're doing NEW Evolutions sets.  The idea was one of the soundest ones Hasbro ever had, and it was one of their best selling ideas ever.  The price is about right, the figures are great, and so long as distribution holds up, they'll be easy to collect.

The thing is, to me anyway, that the idea is there again and Hasbro's trying something new...  So while you maybe get a "wha?" figure in these 3 new sets, you're getting some great figures along with the "stinker"...  And there's the hope of some of the sets we want (Obi-Wan, Padme, Rebel Troopers, etc.) is there now, where a year ago this was a dead line Hasbro wasn't bringing back.

I made it a point we asked about Evolutions almost immediately when the Q&A's started, and Hasbro vehemently denied them coming back...  Seems the idea must've been real sound. :)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on August 4, 2007, 02:43 AM
Now that they've done a 180 on their stance on Evolution sets, next up is Playsets!!!!   ;D

Anyways, it's great they're doing these.  But I do hope they do well enought to keep Hasbro interested in more waves of these.  If the Jedi set warms bad, and it very well could - that's gonna hurt the line.  I also thing the Sith set might sit more than the ROTS one did.  At least we know the Fett set will be hot...

I wish they had done something new with trooper builders though.  It's great to get the repacked Stormtrooper set, but how about something like this too -

SA KOTOR Sith Trooper
SA ROTS Coruscant Gray Clone Trooper
SA Legacy Era Stormtrooper

 :P
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Smartypants1635 on August 4, 2007, 11:30 AM
I'm getting about 3 of the jedi and sith sets, Great for Jedi and Sith Customs. The lower body of sith2 maul looks better than the original Evo Maul, So I'm gonna be Switching out the lower half to get a better maul.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Reid on August 4, 2007, 11:55 AM
Now that they're mixing EU into the Evo packs, here are some of my ideas...

Troopers
NEW Sith Trooper (KOTOR) w/ Blaster Rifle, Vibrolance, and Removable Helmet
REPACK Stormtrooper (Based On 30AC) w/ New Head Sculpt, E-11, And Mouse Droid
NEW Stormtrooper (Legacy) w/ Blaster Rifle

Bounty Hunters
NEW Calo Nord (KOTOR) w/ Heavy Blasters, Removable Cap, And Detonator
NEW Zuckuss w/ Heavy Blaster Rifle
NEW Jodo Kast w/ Blaster Rifle

Heroes
NEW Carth Onasi (KOTOR) w/ Blaster
NEW Han Solo (Yavin Ceremony) w/ Medal & DL-44
NEW Kyle Katarn (Jedi Academy) w/ Blaster, Detonator Gun, And Lightsaber
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Artoo on August 4, 2007, 11:43 PM
Luke Skywalker-
Farmboy- Lightsaber, Sniper Rifle, Grappling Hook
Hoth Pilot- Lightsaber, Rebel Pistol, Grappling Hook (Different than the ANH version, suction cup)
Death Star II- Lightsaber, Removable Flap

Princess Leia-
Buns- Pistol
Slave- Chain
Pregnant- Blaster

Troopers Version 2-
Sith Trooper
Coruscant Clone Trooper (SA re-paint)
Legacy Era Female Storm Trooper (Is there a difference between the regular Legacy stromie & the OT stormie?)

Padme Amdiala-
Naboo Battle- Pistol
Arena- Removable Chain, Battle Droid Blaster
Buns

Obi-Wan Kenobi-
TPM- Lightsaver, Re-breather, Qui-Gon Lightsaber, Robe
AOTC- Lightsaber, Robe
Ben- Lightsaber, Robe

Droid Sidekick-
HK-47- Blaster Rifle
T3-M4
R2-D2 (R4-G9 re-paint)

C-3PO-
TPM
AOTC- Battle Droid Blaster
OT (Super-Articulated_
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Matt R. on August 7, 2007, 08:06 PM
I see them doing an Obi-Wan Set but not Luke, Padme, or Leia because

1. Luke is the Main Character in all of Star Wars, They would NEVER put 3 SA versions of him in one pack. That would be dumb on Hasbro's part. It would be awesome but stupid. 

2. Padme and Leia are poison in the retailers eyes, because they are girls, not alot of kids (boys) would not never pay 20 dollars for three figures that did not have any guys characters in it. 

But I would like to see an Evolutions Rebel set that comes with the SA Tanive IV Trooper. SA Hoth Soldier (This Figure needs to come out), and SA Endor Commando.

Also does anybody knows if the 2nd Clone Evolution Set from 2005 is also coming back out ?
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: JangoTat on August 7, 2007, 09:29 PM
Quote
Luke is the Main Character in all of Star Wars,

I don't know..after all didn't the story revolve around Ani/Vader. after all Ani, Obi, R2 and 3PO were the only ones (that i can think of at the moment) that have been in all the movies.

Think about it  ;)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on August 7, 2007, 10:39 PM
The Maul was a dumb choice, rather of saw another KOTOR sith or maybe Senate Duel Palpatine.

The Jedi chick is a weird choice, good figure but weird. They should of had the ultimate Yoda or soemthing.

Ah yes, Senate Duel Palpatine! Excellent idea.

I don't mind Bultar Swan. It's confounding why she gets two figures in a year though. I much prefer the movie version. Now I'm rethinking buying the comic pack. I dn't really need it. However it may make for good custom fodder.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on August 7, 2007, 10:40 PM
Now that they've done a 180 on their stance on Evolution sets, next up is Playsets!!!!   ;D

Anyways, it's great they're doing these.  But I do hope they do well enought to keep Hasbro interested in more waves of these.  If the Jedi set warms bad, and it very well could - that's gonna hurt the line.  I also thing the Sith set might sit more than the ROTS one did.  At least we know the Fett set will be hot...

I wish they had done something new with trooper builders though.  It's great to get the repacked Stormtrooper set, but how about something like this too -

SA KOTOR Sith Trooper
SA ROTS Coruscant Gray Clone Trooper
SA Legacy Era Stormtrooper

 :P

Now that is a set I'd get MANY of! Good call.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on August 7, 2007, 10:41 PM
Now that they're mixing EU into the Evo packs, here are some of my ideas...

Troopers
NEW Sith Trooper (KOTOR) w/ Blaster Rifle, Vibrolance, and Removable Helmet
REPACK Stormtrooper (Based On 30AC) w/ New Head Sculpt, E-11, And Mouse Droid
NEW Stormtrooper (Legacy) w/ Blaster Rifle

Bounty Hunters
NEW Calo Nord (KOTOR) w/ Heavy Blasters, Removable Cap, And Detonator
NEW Zuckuss w/ Heavy Blaster Rifle
NEW Jodo Kast w/ Blaster Rifle

Heroes
NEW Carth Onasi (KOTOR) w/ Blaster
NEW Han Solo (Yavin Ceremony) w/ Medal & DL-44
NEW Kyle Katarn (Jedi Academy) w/ Blaster, Detonator Gun, And Lightsaber

Some decent ideas there. I like the idea of getting Calo Nord and carth Onassi.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on August 7, 2007, 10:42 PM
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Luke is the Main Character in all of Star Wars,

I don't know..after all didn't the story revolve around Ani/Vader. after all Ani, Obi, R2 and 3PO were the only ones (that i can think of at the moment) that have been in all the movies.

Think about it  ;)

True dat.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 8, 2007, 12:23 PM
Holy ****...I'm so excited to see the evo sets return! I'm excited for all three of them, because I think there are needed figures across the board. The only figures I'm not too excited about are Darth Bane (unless that helmet is removeable) and shirtless Maul (but he could turn out better).

Here's my hopes for future sets...

Bounty Hunters
• Mira (KOTOR 2)
• Zam Wessel (ultimate)
• Zuckuss (ultimate)

Troops 1
• Sith Trooper (KOTOR)
• 501st Trooper (ultimate)
• Stormtrooper

Troops 2
• Rebel Trooper (ANH, ultimate)
• Rebel Trooper (Hoth, ultimate)
• Rebel Trooper (Endor, ultimate)

Jedi
• Bastilla Shan (KOTOR)
• Yoda (ultimate)
• Luke Skywalker (ROTJ, ultimate)

I have to say, I'm psyched to see Hasbro creating characters from KOTOR series, which I really feel has some of the most "star wars" feel of the EU.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jayson on October 16, 2007, 06:46 PM
StarWarsShop.com has the Sith and Anakin to Vader sets up for sale and a glimpse of the new packaging:

(http://www.yakface.com/2007/evo1lg.jpg) (http://www.yakface.com/2007/evo2lg.jpg)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: BrentS on October 16, 2007, 07:01 PM
I don't think I realized they were re-releasing these older sets.  Interesting.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: I Am Sith on October 16, 2007, 09:07 PM
Man, this really makes me wish I wouldn't have tried so hard to find the old Anakin Evo set...  I like this packaging a lot better than the ROTS era version.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: mr director on October 17, 2007, 08:13 AM
I missed out on the original ones, the package on this one looks better from what I've seen.  Can't wait to get 'em!
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 17, 2007, 09:11 AM
The angled packaging on these work much better than on the basic cards.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 6, 2007, 12:54 PM
There are images of the three new Evolutions sets in the latest edition of Lee's Toy Review.  The pics of the Jedi don't really show anything new.  The images of the Mandalorians are pretty good, and show off a good deal more detail than the images from Comic Con.  And the Sith Lords made the cover.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jesse James on December 13, 2007, 08:01 PM
Curto's reporting over at Scum about more Evolution sets, and some interesting ones for sure...

OCB ought to be interested in the Padme set...  I am too because it may give that definitive Battle Amidala I've hoped for, and some of the obscure outfits she wears in 2 and 3 then. 

Wedge Antilles fans may get a dream come true with a Rebel Pilot set...  I'm interested in this, but really do the pilots "evolve" per se?  As an army builder, I think it could be a fantastic set though with 3 unique and hopefully fairly generic pilots...  My hope/wish I guess would be Wedge (ANH), Dak Snowspeeder (ESB), and a Human B-Wing Pilot.  Those would be my ideals at least.  Better, to me anyway, than a Rogue Squad pilot set.  The film pilots haven't been done right yet afterall!

And lastly, and this was odd I thought, was the Imperial Pilot set...  Personally I'm not sure what to expect.  I suppose it could be pilots from film vehicles instead of all TIE Fighter pilots, but at the same time Curto mentioned Baron Fel, and I wouldn't mind a new (better) version of him.  That comic figure is, well, comical looking in a way.  And Fel's come up in Q&A's this past go-round too as getting future figures.

I dunno though...  The idea of a Biggs in Imperial Pilot outfit with the open mask is sort of dumb to me.  The open masks were only to identify who the pilots were in the comic, and really wasn't intended to be a pilot uniform variation or anything according to what I've read somewhere.

Anyway, the Rebel Pilot one is the most interesting to me, but I'm really hopeful for less EU in it.  Doubting I get my wish on that though, at least based on the other new Evo sets.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nathan on December 13, 2007, 08:23 PM
Imperial Pilot set ... maybe V-wing pilot, TIE Pilot, and TIE Predator pilot from the Legacy comic series?
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jesse James on December 13, 2007, 09:12 PM
That's a possibility...  The V-Winger's long overdue since he's got a ship out, and he is really the evolutionary step to TIE pilots visually.  A SA TIE Pilot from the classics will be nice.  The OTC pilot's nice looking, but lacks some poseability for certain.  Don't know on the EU Pilot you mentioned...  I'd much prefer a Fel actually, but that's me...  It ties to the classics more, so I think that's what I'd wish for anyway.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 13, 2007, 10:30 PM
Hmmm.  This is where the speculation begins!  What would I like to see?

PADME
-Post Senate gown - EPISODE I
-Arena Battle - Super posable, softgoods - EPISODE II
-Buns hairdo - Episode III


REBEL PILOTS
-Garven Dreis - Red Leader - Episode IV
-Wedge Antilles - Rogue 3 - Episode V
-Arvel Crynyd - Green Leader - Episode VI


IMPERIAL PILOTS
-V-Wing Pilot - Episode III
-Black Squadron Pilot with grey helmet markings - Episode IV
And for the last slot, I'm tied between some of these choices:
-Han Solo - Imperial Pilot
-TIE Bomber Pilot with clear face shield (seen in the Ultimate Cross Sections book)
-Imperial Shuttle Pilot - ROTJ
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darby on December 13, 2007, 11:05 PM
I'm just stoked we're getting a new Wedge (finally) and my theory about him coming in the Evo line was right.  If this pans out.  Let the speculation run rampant:

Hero Pilots

Naboo Fighter Pilot - Episode I (w/ overcoat)
Wedge Antilles (Snowspeeder Pilot) though I will be happy w/ the X-Wing version of course.
Any Rogue Squadron Pilot from the comics, which is where I think they're leaning.

Imperial Pilots
V-Wing Pilot
TIE Pilot
Baron Fel (better) or some other Imperial EU pilot - the Legacy pilot probably.

Padme

Pre-Senate Gown Episode I
Arena Battle Episode II
Peacock Dress Episode III

and also what I think is liable to happen:

Obi-Wan

Episode I Obi Wan
Clone Armor Obi
ANH Obi

Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Force Guy on December 13, 2007, 11:07 PM
Personally, I'd be mega-pumped to see an Evolutions Bartender set, if it included the following:

- Wuher (ANH)
- Ackmena (Bea Arthur, Holiday Special)
- R2 w/ serving tray (ROTJ)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on December 13, 2007, 11:30 PM
Imperial Pilot set ... maybe V-wing pilot, TIE Pilot, and TIE Predator pilot from the Legacy comic series?

Yeah!  That sounds fantastic... a V-Wing pilot would be most welcome... and a new TIE Pilot?  Count me in.  I like the SAGA/OTC version, but one with more articulation and a removable helmet would be fantastic.

Now... the 3rd figure?  Who should it be?  I'd personally like a surprise McQuarrie Concept TIE Pilot... but I don't know if there's an image of the front of him... all I remember seeing ever is this -

(http://pnerves.com/tieview.jpg)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jeff on December 13, 2007, 11:31 PM
Any Rogue Squadron Pilot from the comics, which is where I think they're leaning.

Yeah, based on the choices in the first sets in 2008 (NJO Luke, Bane, Nihilus, Mandalore, etc), I could definitely see them tossing more EU figures in there.

I'd be thrilled with an ANH Pilot / ESB Pilot / RotJ Pilot pack, but I'd be willing to sub any one of those slots for a Rogue Squadron Pilot.  :)

Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nathan on December 14, 2007, 01:01 AM
Don't know on the EU Pilot you mentioned...  I'd much prefer a Fel actually, but that's me...

I don't actually know what the Predator pilot looks like, or if there even is a depiction yet. I do know there's a new TIE (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Predator-class_fighter) in the Legacy comics and if a pilot hasn't been shown yet, there will be one sooner or later.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 14, 2007, 09:02 AM
Rebel Pilots sound fantastic, but with my luck it'll be:

E1 Pilot
E2 Pilot
E4/6 Pilot
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on December 14, 2007, 02:01 PM
Rebel pilots could be nice, but really there's already so many good rebel pilot bodies now that I don't know how necessary that is... how about Rebel Troopers instead!

- Rebel Fleet Trooper
- Hoth Rebel Trooper
- Mon Calamari Officer
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Matt R. on December 14, 2007, 02:20 PM
I hoping it is the Rebel Pilots for evoutions because I am an nut for pilots.  But it is probaby going to be another jedi set, 3po, and padme.  I want  this to be wave 3

Rebel Pilots

SA Naboo Pilot w/ Overcoat (I)
SA Luke - Snowspeeder Pilot (V)
SA Wedge - X-Wing Pilot (VI)

Obi-Wan

SA EP1 Obi-wan
SA CW Obi-Wan (Clone Armor)
SA EP4 Obi-Wan (Please :)) The VOTC doesn't cut it.

Padme

Pre-Senate Padme (I) - I prefer if they do the Handmaiden Version
SA Arena Padme (II) - This will happen
Peacock Dress Padme (III) - Saving Buns Padme for Card

More Future Evoultions ideas

C-3PO Set (I-IV)
Imperial Set (?)
Bounty Hunter Set (Zuckuss, Dengar?)
Smugglers Set (Kyle Katarn)
More Clone Sets (pretty postive there going to be more)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Ryan on December 14, 2007, 04:16 PM
Rebel pilots could be nice, but really there's already so many good rebel pilot bodies now that I don't know how necessary that is... how about Rebel Troopers instead!

- Rebel Fleet Trooper
- Hoth Rebel Trooper
- Mon Calamari Officer

I disagree with you there Justin... Tycho is the only really good Rebel pilot we have. Luke is good for Luke, but he is way too short to be anyone else, the Dutch sculpt is a fairly good and all but the arm articulation leaves something to be desired and he is a behemouth. But I'd definitely be down for a Rebel Troopers set. Though I think I'd swap out the Mon Cal for an Endor Trooper or Endor Commando and save the Mon Cal for a single card.

I think my ideal Rebel Pilot set would loook something like this:

  -EP IV Wedge Antilles X-Wing Pilot - I'd really like to see Wedge get the SA figure he deserves. The body could easily be re-used on any generic X-Winger
  -EP V Snowspeeder Pilot (I don't really even care who it is, Dak, Wedge, Luke, Janson, or even just some generic guy, would all be perfectly acceptable to me. Again the body could easily be re-used for other pilots)
  -EP VI Nien Numb or a B-Wing Pilot

I really prefer a straight OT set, but based off all the other Evolutions I kind of doubt that it would happen that way. An Imperial Pilot set would be cool too though I don't know what all they'd include. A V-Winger and TIE pilot would be obvious choices I would think, maybe the Fel like some of you suggest for the third?  I wouldn't mind a resculpt even though it would be so soon after the first one came out.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on December 14, 2007, 05:07 PM
I see what you're saying too Ryan... and I agree Tycho is better than any other pilots out there.  But, I'd have to say that Rebel pilots as a whole have gotten better treatment than the listed types of Rebel soldiers over the past few years...

Pilots -

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TAC44awingLS-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TAC14biggspilotLS-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/TSCsnowspeederloose-m.jpg)
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/tscVlukexwingloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC/otc05wedgeloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/sw0413goldleaderloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TACcomic12LS-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2neinnunbloose-m.jpg)

Soldiers -

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/TSC008derlinloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/sw0415captantillesloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/sw0401hothtrooperloose-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/toys/potjrebeltrooperkneelrtfront-m.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/potj/potjmoncalamariofficerfrontnohelmet-m.jpg)


Other than Nien Nunb, I think the Rebel Pilots are pretty much ok... sure, a better Snowspeeder Luke than the one that's in the Hoth Pack should be made... but all of these have pretty good sculpts, and articulated knees... look at the difference in quality between the X-Wing pilots and the Rebel troopers... the troopers don't even have knee articualation, except for the Fleet Trooper - but that sculpt is so outdated...

Plus - the main problem I have with the X-Wing pilot really being resculpted (other than Porkins) is that we've been bombarded with the Dutch Vander sculpt, which is pretty dang good (though a bit tall) - so far from that sculpt we've gotten Dutch, Wedge, Biggs and Hobbie... and two of those were this year.  Do we really want to have to start our X-Wing armies all over again so soon?  I say give it a few years at least on the X-Wing pilots... make Nien Nunb a regular carded figure, and same for the B-Wing pilot...

Not that I don't like Rebel pilots - I do... but I'd rather see a Rebel set of troopers, which I think would be  a stronger seller because:

1) Most army builders will probably want to have more generic troopers than pilots

2) The Rebel Fleet Trooper and Hoth Trooper are in desperate need of resculpts

Maybe make a set with a Rebel Fleet Trooper, a Hoth Trooper and a B-Wing pilot.  Or something.   ;)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jayson on December 14, 2007, 05:08 PM
Yuck... look at all that blue  :P
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Muftak on December 14, 2007, 08:08 PM
I remember reading a Hasbro QnA response in which they said they really want to do a pilot Corran Horn figure but lamented that he never actually appeared as a Rogue Squadron pilot in the comics to qualify for a comic 2 pack. My gut says he will fill out one of the slots. As a green-outfitted X-Wing pilot, he would certainly be unique looking, plus would go along with the 08 Evo trend of including one EU figure.

The names "Rebel Pilots" and "Imperial Pilots" kind of exclude the possibility of prequel figures, though, don't they? (In fairness, I suppose a Padme' set excludes the original trilogy.)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on December 14, 2007, 10:47 PM
Green X-Wing Pilot... that could be cool.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2007, 01:35 AM
Considering there isn't even a human B-Winger yet, in the proper red, with the proper helmet, I don't entirely agree that we don't "need" a new one of that...  Also, and it's maybe nitpicky, but the "Dutch" sculpt has never sat well with me as the definitive one to re-use.  Knees are great, but so is arm articulation...  The A-Winger puts them to shame at this point.

Not to mention Dutch is an oddly tall figure compared to, well, anyone.

And I'd then say the middle figure needed is a Hoth pilot...  The cobbled together Zev is visually ok, but not as cool as it could be, just like "Dutch" is.

That's not to say I don't agree about a Fleet Trooper or Hoth Rebel Trooper, or even the Endor Trooper...  All 3 pretty much suck equally.  And I think all 3 would sell better than any pilot.  That's where a pilot 3-pack makes sense though too.  It sells through less units in general than a basic figure can...  I still can't find Honor Guards around me, and that was a background Rebel and sort of bland...  Sold real quick though.  So I have no doubts other Rebels done in similar quality will sell through well at the basic level.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Artoo on December 15, 2007, 09:57 AM
If those are true, I'll probably save some money & skip the Sith set.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedipurge on December 19, 2007, 01:07 PM
Here's a pic of the TIE pilots from the Legacy series, there some TIE's hanging in the background of the hanger.  These could definately be a part of the Evo series with an SA OT TIE pilot and a V-Winger.

 www.darkhorse.com/profile/preview.php?theid=14-435&p=1
www.darkhorse.com/profile/preview.php?theid=14-435&p=2
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Rune Haako on December 19, 2007, 02:11 PM
The Force Unleashed Evolutions Set

http://www.brianstoys.com/store/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=S8MBBFORCEDUNLEASHEDC9
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 19, 2007, 02:33 PM
Looks like the order sheets went out to the major accounts.  I'd say that's a verification right there.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 19, 2007, 03:56 PM
Here's a pic of the TIE pilots from the Legacy series, there some TIE's hanging in the background of the hanger.  These could definately be a part of the Evo series with an SA OT TIE pilot and a V-Winger.

 www.darkhorse.com/profile/preview.php?theid=14-435&p=1
www.darkhorse.com/profile/preview.php?theid=14-435&p=2

Okay those look cool.

And I like the Legacy Officers as well. That could easily be another EVO pack: Republic Officer, Imperial Officer and Legacy Officer (all SA and the greenish color-with NO main characters to allow for easy troop building).
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 19, 2007, 04:14 PM
Is it me or does anyone else feel that C3P0 does not need to be redone? I am pretty happy with the C3P0 Ewok deity as the definitive protocol droid. The SL AOTC is good enough for me and the EP1 still holds up well in my book, one of the very few from that era. I see this as a wasted slot I hope this is not true.

To me the Legacy Tie pilots are not very interesting, I would rather see a OT style first. Wedge is the SDCC exclusive as it sounds right now so he will not be part of the pilot pack.

My 6 wishes for Evo packs would be:(I know they won't happen but....)

Obi-Wan
SA EP1 Obi-wan
SA EP2 Obi-Wan
SA EP4 Obi-Wan (Please Smiley) The VOTC doesn't cut it.

Imperial Leaders
Grand Moff Tarkin
The Emporer
Ronin Fel

Rebel Fighters
Fleet Trooper
Hoth Rebel Trooper
Mon Calamari Officer

Rebel Pilots

SA Naboo Pilot w/ Overcoat (I)
SA Luke - Snowspeeder Pilot (V)
SA Nien Numb

Jedi warriors
Bastilla Shan
K'Kruk
Kol Skywalker

Scrubs of the Galaxy
Ackmena
ICMG Willrow Hood
Fozec or Captain Doallyn








Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 20, 2007, 05:25 AM
Is it me or does anyone else feel that C3P0 does not need to be redone? I am pretty happy with the C3P0 Ewok deity as the definitive protocol droid.


Nah, I think 4-LOM proves they can take 3PO further. But that's me.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jesse James on December 20, 2007, 06:00 AM
I kind of agree with Anthony, but I also have no desire to see a C-3PO Evolutions type set at all...

You put out a definitive C-3PO in gold, you re-release it at some point with a silver leg, and you paint him Episode 2 style, and I'd be pretty content on C-3PO's at that point.

Deity 3PO is neat though, but I'd take better (ala 4-LOM) if offered at some point...

At the same time, none of these are high on my list either.  I've got a lot more figures I'd rather see done first...  I'm just saying I wouldn't turn my nose up at these if they were done spread out over time. ;)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 20, 2007, 09:43 AM
Good point guys on the 4-Lom articulation but there is one problem - the chrome. They would not be able to joint the chrome because it would fleck off. It would have to be painted like the gold knee joint, I'm sure they can do it but I do not think it's Evo worthy.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jayson on December 20, 2007, 09:55 AM
But, should C-3PO or 4-LOM even have articulated elbows?
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on December 20, 2007, 12:28 PM
I could go for a final definitive version of 3PO... and I think that somehow they should be able to make the paint look realistic to where it works fine with joints.  If not, I'd be ok with them not doing a chrome finish.

Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: JohnH on December 20, 2007, 05:14 PM
We've got a pic of the "Fett Legacy" Evolution set.  Pretty sweet Mandalore figure.  :)

http://www.toytraderz.com/News/article/sid=1263.html

John
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 20, 2007, 05:27 PM
All 3 of those figures look perfect.  I want multiples of this one for sure.

(http://www.toytraderz.com/newsimages/20071219fettLarge.jpg)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 20, 2007, 07:24 PM
I saw that image in either Lee's or Tomarts.  The figures look really sweet.  But why would you watermark an image that was scanned from a print publication that's been on newstands for at least a couple of weeks?
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on December 20, 2007, 10:46 PM
Dressel, I just want the Boba from that set, so when I buy it you can have the other 2 if you want them.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedipurge on December 21, 2007, 03:43 PM
Why didn't they just use the holsters from the Jango apartment fig?  The Evo set doesn't have the thigh straps.  But look at that ball waist artic.  :o
The only thing with the Mandalore Warrior is the arms look like little %*@! arms.  If I have a warrior I at least want him to look like he can use that hulking axe.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 21, 2007, 04:07 PM
I just realized something about the Fett Legacy 3-pack....we're getting another figure that's related to KOTOR.  Mandalore has shown up in the Dark Horse KOTOR comic series.  And Darth Nihilus is from KOTOR II.  So I have to wonder if we've got a serious shot at some more KOTOR era figures.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Artoo on December 21, 2007, 08:49 PM
I really like this set. Best Evoulutions set yet!
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: JediMAC on December 23, 2007, 07:18 AM
I found a couple of the "new" Evo sets at my WM tonight ($19.76 each), including one Sith set, and a boatload of the Clone to Stormie sets.  Not sure if there were any others prior to my arrival, but at least they're finally trickling out there now.  Would someone refresh my memory if there's any changes to the figures in either of the aforementioned sets, or are they straight rehashes from the last go 'round?  Hopefully the latter, so I only have to get one set of each...
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 23, 2007, 10:10 AM
Straight rehashes, new packaging.

That Fett set does look sweet. It's going to be very popular.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on December 23, 2007, 10:33 AM
Now are they going to re-release the "grey" clonetrooper to stormtroopers set as well?  Or is it just going to be the yellow version?
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 24, 2007, 10:17 AM
I've read that only one version of the clone set is getting released.

Here's my question - Are these considered '07 or '08?
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jesse James on December 24, 2007, 02:30 PM
I think only the grey pack has been pictured so far.  I don't recall seeing the yellow one, though I actually think I prefer it overall.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Ryan on December 24, 2007, 02:46 PM
I saw the re-released sets at my local Wally World last night as well. For those still wondering it is definitely the grey version and like Anthony I think I read it is the only one being release. I was thinking of maybe grabbing another Sith Set but I ended up passing. Maul's face looked HORRIBLE on the both sets the store had. The eyes were all blotchy and far too big and there seemed to be a fair amount of detail omitted from his tattoos. Hopefully it was just from a bad bath or something, because they did do a really nice jo the first time around. I didn't see the Anakin/Vader or I might have picked up one more of those.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 25, 2007, 12:43 AM
Maul's face looked HORRIBLE on the both sets the store had. The eyes were all blotchy and far too big...

Did it come with a little 3 3/4" scale Sith bong, and Travis Henry accessory?
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on December 25, 2007, 09:51 PM
On the rehashes, I'll grab a Sith set or two, but not the others.

 ;)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Ice on December 29, 2007, 07:21 PM
On the rehashes, I'll grab a Sith set or two, but not the others.

 ;)
I say bring on the new packs! Enough with this repack stuff!  ;D :o
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 29, 2007, 10:05 PM
Saw two of the reissue sets tonight.  It was the Sith set and the Clone to Stormtrooper set.  And those were all the grey variants.  Strange.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Rune Haako on December 31, 2007, 04:01 PM
Vader's Secret Apprentice set.

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/1497/medium/evofulse.jpg)

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/1497/medium/evofu.jpg)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: evenflow on December 31, 2007, 04:19 PM
The Sith Lord looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 31, 2007, 06:23 PM
This is a great set. I'm very pleased with what Hasbro has done here.

This is the best way they could handle the Secret Apprentice as a figure.

I also like the designs for the Sith Lord and Jedi Knight versions - they are unique but fit in well with the rest of Star Wars.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Reid on December 31, 2007, 06:24 PM
Wow, so I'm guessing these are the different paths you can take in the game, ala KOTOR? Very cool. May pick this set up.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on December 31, 2007, 07:03 PM
I'll be picking up a couple of these.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: speedermike on December 31, 2007, 08:28 PM
Is it just me, or is Hasbro taking a huge chance by only releasing the "Hero" of the game in a 20.00 + set?  Wouldn't it have made sense to have these carded, so kids could actually choose the one they wanted?  Not ony that, but with Hasbro's poor scheduling, I bet that this set, and the carded figures hit at very different times.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 1, 2008, 11:05 AM
Is it just me, or is Hasbro taking a huge chance by only releasing the "Hero" of the game in a 20.00 + set?  Wouldn't it have made sense to have these carded, so kids could actually choose the one they wanted?  Not ony that, but with Hasbro's poor scheduling, I bet that this set, and the carded figures hit at very different times.

I think that an Evolutions set was the only way they could give us all three in-game versions of the Apprentice.

If they had individually carded the Apprentice character there was no way that they could have put all three versions into the assortment.

The big problem here is that the Force Unleashed project was postponned from 2007. If it had come out as planned then sure, perhaps carding the Apprentice would have been okay, but with The Clone Wars cartoon and toy-line on the horizon. Hasbro has a very small window with which to strike with Force Unleashed merchandise. If we didn't get the Jedi Knight version of the apprentice now, there's a chance we'd never get him.

Also, think about it - there's no way that the Sith Lord outcome will be the canon ending that is presented in the comics and the book. Clearly the Sith Lord outcome is as a result of either killing Vader or helping Vader kill the Emperor or even possibly killing them both - and since the game pre-dates ANH, we all know that doesn't happen.

What IS more likely is that the love between Juno and the Apprentice pushes him to the light-side, he squares off against Vader and is put into a situation where he ends up dead or in hiding. In fact almost as a tongue-in-cheek type result, I could see them working something into the game where Vader is almost like "damn, I wish I hadn't killed Padme, she could have birthed a son who could have been my apprentice and surely my son wouldn't have turned on me! blah blah blah..."

Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: speedermike on January 1, 2008, 12:19 PM
Interesting ideas, Pete.  Maybe they had been planned to be carded.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 1, 2008, 12:27 PM
Interesting ideas, Pete.  Maybe they had been planned to be carded.

Well - I think Hasbro had always intended on putting out the Secret Apprentice in a box set like this. If I recall, shortly after Toy Fair, in one of their Q&A sessions when asked why the Secret Apprentice wasn't part of the Force Unleashed assortment, the response Hasbro came back with was "we have something special planned for the Apprentice character" - to me this three figure set is definitely something special.

It gives me great hope for this game - more than anything else, this figure set confirms that the game itself will work in a manner similar to KOTOR and KOTOR II - that was the best part of those games in my opinion, the ability to play the game differently and affect your character, your companion characters and the end result of the game.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Roton7 on January 1, 2008, 09:58 PM
I think the standard apprentice should've been carded, and the Evo set should be Vader, Sith apprentice, and Jedi apprentice.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 2, 2008, 09:41 AM
They look well done, but at this point, they don't interest me.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 2, 2008, 03:55 PM
I'm very, very interested in TFU Evolutions.  Chewie is gonna be spending a lot of dough on this stuff.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth Vorax on January 2, 2008, 09:10 PM
Looks like a nice set and all, but the Apprentice and Sith Lord look far too kit bashed and to derivative of other characters(Revan, Anakin, Bousche, Mandalore and such)..

He just doesnt seem Imperial nor Sith Lord in quality , looks like a glorified Gothic punk rocker reject.

*If anything he should be dressed more like an Imperial officer(Lord Jerec) or like Cade Skywalker/Imperial Knights.

Anyway I like his vehicle the most.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jesse James on January 3, 2008, 01:22 AM
I'm pretty stoked...  The Jedi looks like the character from Assassin's Creed actually, which is a pretty cool get-up.  The Apprentice looks very "average guy" kind of feel, which I appreciate...  The Sith Lord version has a mask reminiscent of Revan, but the rest is freakish.  It's like Palpatine if he were young and wore less clothes...  The pale skin, the sort of "twisted" look from the dark side...  Seemingly a little damage and cyborg-ish stuff going on too, but not too much...  Just enough to make him look like a fighter.

I dig it...  I dig most anything Evolutions though.  This is one of the most anticipated sets for me now though.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth Vorax on January 3, 2008, 01:46 AM
Think also his outfit is rather close to those punk-like costumes the Sith were wearing in the comic "Jedi vs Sith".
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 4, 2008, 12:42 PM
The Sith Lord version has a mask reminiscent of Revan, but the rest is freakish.

It also has some design ques from Boussh's helmet. I like the average look too. I wonder if you can kill Vader in the game and restore the Jedi order in a else worlds ending, that would be very cool. I loved that aspect in the ROTS game that you can kill Obi-Wan and then Palps.

You said it Jess, anything Evolutions is dug by all.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 4, 2008, 02:46 PM
Ok, I'm guessing that you can't appear as BOTH the Sith Lord AND the Jedi in the game.  Now the pale skin makes sense for me - if you end up turning into a full blown Sith, that's the appearance of the character.  If you're redeemed, the appearance is that of a traditional Jedi.

I dig it.  A lot.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: ctonra on January 4, 2008, 04:07 PM
This set looks awsume, I can not wait to get this game and these toys.   it looks like it will play just like KOTOR & KOTOR II.   I can't wait to play it on the Wii.   
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: ctonra on January 4, 2008, 04:18 PM
Hey all 4-inches
has pic of all four set loose and boxed they look great

http://www.4-inches.de/inhalt/news/2008/01/080104_ev3.jpg
http://www.4-inches.de/inhalt/news/2008/01/080104_ev4.jpg
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on January 4, 2008, 04:21 PM
How about these instead:


(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/in/large/HAS14721.jpg)

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS14721.jpg)


(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/in/large/HAS14718.jpg)

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS14718.jpg)


(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/in/large/HAS14719.jpg)

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS14719.jpg)


(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/in/large/HAS14720.jpg)

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS14720.jpg)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 4, 2008, 05:06 PM
Is it just me or does it look like the packaged version of the NJO Luke is MUCH IMPROVED over the loose figure shot.

Looks like the hair is more combed than wild, it also looks like the head it sitting better on the neck post. In the loose shot the giraffe-neck effect is in full-force.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth Vorax on January 4, 2008, 07:49 PM
The idiots should made Exar Kun, not another freaking Maul  or Fett.  ::)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Nicklab on January 4, 2008, 07:58 PM
The idiots should made Exar Kun, not another freaking Maul  or Fett.  ::)

I hear you on wanting an important EU character like Exar Kun.  But I think you need to try shifting your perception of figures like Darth Maul or Boba Fett in this case.  Try to regard them as the anchor pieces in the sets. 

In the SITH LEGACY, it's Darth Maul that's featured on the packaging.  He's the mainstream draw in that particular set.  While a good deal of more hardcore fans might know Darth Bane and Darth Nihilus, the mainstream people probably don't.  Also, this Maul is a good update on the POTJ figure that came out with the training droid.

And with the FETT LEGACY, again Boba Fett acts as the mainstream draw.  Plus this version gives as a super-articulated version of Boba Fett as he appeared in Empire.  Oh, and they threw in that cool removable helmet, too.  Now the flipside is what would you offer in place of Boba Fett?  That would make Jango Fett the anchor in the set, but who would you make the third Mandalorian in the set?  Canderous Ordo?  You can pick any one of a number of Mandalorians, but the OT would no longer be represented in this set.  And that's still a big selling point for some collectors.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 4, 2008, 08:40 PM
I disagree with that Maul being put in.  He's in two Evolution sets at one time, and this version looks terrible.

There's plenty of other options to put in there instead, including an all new Emperor.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth Vorax on January 4, 2008, 09:46 PM
How about these instead:


(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/in/large/HAS14721.jpg)

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS14721.jpg)

Also the apprentice looks nothing like the art.
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/9/93/SecretApprentice.jpg)

*Even this man's custom clothing looks  nice and accurate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/irms/964818519/
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on January 5, 2008, 08:21 AM
Yeah, have to agree with Chewie and others.  Maul should not be in that set.  I don't think anyone was asking for another shirtless Maul.  He's already in the re-released Sith set.  Let him be Hasbro.    I agree Exar Kun would have been a nice addition. 

I am interested in the Fett, Jedi, and the new Sith set.   I may not buy the Unleashed one though.  It's a cool set but at $20 for a character from a video game.  I just don't know.  Maybe later?  I can see why they put him in a set though.  I highly doubt all 3 carded seperately would have sold particularly well.  If you are going to pick up Sith Apprentice most likely you would want all 3.  Might as well get it over with in one release. 
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on January 8, 2008, 01:48 AM
Here's a loose pic of the Sith version of Vader's Apprentice. From a overseas eBay seller.

(http://i17.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/d0/bd/c253_1.JPG)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 8, 2008, 08:32 AM
Hmm I don't like the scuff on his arms.

However I do like the collection of lightsabers he has on his belt.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 8, 2008, 09:00 AM
Cool looking figure, just don't know much about the character.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Reid on January 8, 2008, 06:09 PM
Also the apprentice looks nothing like the art.
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/9/93/SecretApprentice.jpg)

*Even this man's custom clothing looks  nice and accurate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/irms/964818519/

It could be just an alternative/battle damaged custome, or that picture could be just concept art and not what'll be in the game.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth Vorax on January 8, 2008, 07:40 PM
Here's a loose pic of the Sith version of Vader's Apprentice. From a overseas eBay seller.

(http://i17.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/d0/bd/c253_1.JPG)

Thanks for the pic.

Long and thin arms and body..you know it really looks too much like heroine addict or something..dont like it.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Diddly on January 9, 2008, 03:00 AM
Anyone interested in army building the Mandolorian from the Fett set? I only want the Fetts from the set, no interest in the Mando Warrior.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jayson on January 9, 2008, 06:37 AM
With all the leather and gimp hood it looks like something from Hellraiser.

(http://img.verycd.com/posts/0509/post-316704-1126021639.jpg)

Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 9, 2008, 09:06 AM
gawd, you're right....

So the Apprentice is a Cenobite!
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 9, 2008, 02:05 PM
Anyone interested in army building the Mandolorian from the Fett set? I only want the Fetts from the set, no interest in the Mando Warrior.

I'll take if off your hands if you end up having one available.   :)
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: ctonra on January 9, 2008, 04:16 PM
Diddy
if Chewie for some chance doesn't want the mando, I'll take it.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 10, 2008, 09:09 AM
Conversely, if someone buys multiples of the Fett set and doesn't want the Boba, let me know!  I'd rather do that than sell off the other 2 if I buy a set.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: ctonra on January 10, 2008, 02:27 PM
Daigo.
        I'll keep you in mind, I am planning on getting tow sets if i can find them.   I f by change you do pick up a set I'll buy the other two from you.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 10, 2008, 02:45 PM
Thanks!  We've got a partnership then  ;D
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Brian on January 16, 2008, 09:48 AM
Nothing we haven't seen before really, but WIZARD/ToyFare (http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/toyfare/007148289.cfm) has a look at the next batch of Evolution sets (Secret Apprentice, Fetts, Jedi, Sith).
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Jayson on January 16, 2008, 10:47 AM
Also the apprentice looks nothing like the art.
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/9/93/SecretApprentice.jpg)

*Even this man's custom clothing looks  nice and accurate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/irms/964818519/

It could be just an alternative/battle damaged custome, or that picture could be just concept art and not what'll be in the game.

Looks like the hooded apprentice art shown above will be an unlockable "alternate skin" in the game...

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2008/100_3445.jpg)

Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 16, 2008, 03:40 PM
That's kind of a lame payoff for a cheat code, a hood skin? I know it's "free" but that does not entice me too much to even bother entering. I guess it's cool if you are really die hard about the game. I would rather them include a extra gun. But thats just me.....but still better than nothing.

Thanks for the great pics!
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 16, 2008, 04:59 PM
All the codes will be posted shortly. So no need to buy these if you haven't already planned on it. I wasn't going to buy the mini Unleashed of these before, and I'm still not convinced.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 17, 2008, 09:00 AM
I'm not that much of a gamer, but that "cheat" seems really lame unless it's a magical hood of invincibility.
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 17, 2008, 10:51 AM
I agree, a +5 Magical Cloak of invincibility would be ideal. Break out the 20 sided dice and Mountain Dew!
Title: Re: New Evolution Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on January 17, 2008, 11:36 AM
Cheats are for suckers anyway.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 17, 2008, 12:03 PM
You can get the Jango on ebay right now for about $10 plus shipping...

(http://www.cobrarmy.com/tung/tevojango1.jpg)

Not sure if links are allowed or not... if they are, I'll be happy to share a link.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 17, 2008, 12:46 PM
Damn, that is one fine figure. 

Man crushin' on Jango.

Wouldn't mind me an unaltered clone for myself!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 17, 2008, 05:52 PM
I'm really looking forward to the Fett set. I need some extra Jangos and a couple Bobas. If anyone is getting these and doesn't want Jango or Boba, shoot me a PM and let's make a deal.

-Sal
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on January 17, 2008, 06:49 PM
that doesnt even look like hasbros work...its way too good looking....damn thing is going to be hell to find.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 18, 2008, 08:59 AM
that doesnt even look like hasbros work...

Well said. That's the most impressive image I've seen yet.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 18, 2008, 09:26 AM
That really is an incredible looking figure- the paintjob on the pouches and holsters looks like the material it's supposed to be!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt on January 18, 2008, 03:09 PM
I'm having a bitch of a time trying to get that Jango pic to load (how many servers does cobrarmy.com have, anyway?), so I'm rehosting it and putting it at the top of the new page.

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7112/tevojango1ue3.jpg)

It's worth it--it really is a phenomenal figure.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 18, 2008, 03:27 PM
Yeah it was taking forever to load for me now too... thanks for rehosting it.

If the seller I paid ships according to my past transactions with him, I think I'll have it in about a week.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on January 18, 2008, 03:33 PM
It because the photo's file size is over 700k (when rendered)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: ruiner on January 18, 2008, 03:34 PM
Patience Chewie...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/somber77/tevojango2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 18, 2008, 03:55 PM
I was hoping to be able to score Mandalore early instead actually... but this will do... hee hee

It's kind of hard to believe that they waited this long to make a great looking Jango figure... and the TAC version with the poncho is pretty damn nice too.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 18, 2008, 05:23 PM
Wait, I was just about to give this figure high praises when I noticed one thing...

The shoulder RINGS!!! The damn things are purple! WHY??

They should be silver or gray at least. Ack, what should have been the best Jango to date, while still maybe holding that title, isn't prefect.  To me that shoulder ring is a major flaw. It's something that's plagued several of the clones as well. I don't look at my action figure's armpits, so I could care less if the ring matches the color underneath. It HAS to match the color on top.

Yeah yeah, I know I could paint it. But why? Id have to seal the paint and it could still scrape of. Hasbro should have fixed this. Gawd, I hope this is a proto and is correct on the actual figure.

Sorry for the rant, but I was looking to ditch all of my previous Jango's for this one. Now it looks like I may have to hold up on that.


Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 18, 2008, 05:57 PM
Oh, I still like it.   :)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Artoo on January 18, 2008, 06:22 PM
Wow, can't wait until that's released.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on January 18, 2008, 09:43 PM
Oh, I still like it.   :)

Yeah, it's a tiny figure meant to represent Jango Fett.  I think it holds to it pretty damn well myself. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 18, 2008, 10:28 PM
Please dont' get me wrong, it IS an amazing figure. It's just one of those "J/C how could they miss that" kind of things to me. I'll still get it, but I'm probably not going to get the several extras I was planning on getting. I guess I'm still on the fence about it, though leaning towards not getting extras.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: speedermike on January 23, 2008, 10:34 PM
Y'know, after 12 years of buying Hasbro product, I would hope to be able to figure out their logic when relaseing toys.  I saw all 3 re-released Evolutions sets tonight in 3 differnt stores.  Now, I own the original releases, and I don't buy packaging changes, so there was nothing new for me to buy.  Now, if they had put out the Jedi, Mando and Sith set, I would have spent close to 75 bucks.

The issue here is that I think these sets are going to shelfwarm because most of us have these, and the new ones, the ones that we WANT, are going to be tough to find...I just don't get it.  How does this benefit Hasbro?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on January 23, 2008, 10:42 PM
Collectors might have passed over them the first time so they re-introduce them to the market. The sales generated from new customers and those completists that do collect packaging changes help to offset the development costs of the new sets. Plus, it keeps the prices of these sets down overall.

So, ultimately it benefits Hasbro and us.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 24, 2008, 02:24 AM
Well in my neck of the woods, the only set that isn't selling that well is the Clone to Stormtrooper set... and why is that?  Because TAC had so many clone repacks in it, that the Evolution set of them just doesn't seem all that special.  Still nice figures, but I don't need any more of those.

I have picked up two Sith sets, bringing my total of them including the ROTS version to eight... probably will get one or two more... I just can't help it, I love all three figures for custom fodder.

The Anakin set, while awesome, I don't need more of.  I got four of the original version, that's all I need.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 24, 2008, 09:01 AM
All I know is that these sets have been moving fairly slowly since they were reintroduced. What Jaybird is saying makes perfect sense, but I can't say we won't end up with Speedermike's results. :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 24, 2008, 09:51 AM
They should have put out the waves like this:

Wave 1
Sith evo set 2
Anakin evo
Fett evo

Wave 2
Sith evo set 1
Jedi evo set
Secret Apprentice evo set

Wave 3
Clone evo set w/paint op change
Rebel Pilots evo
Obi-wan evo (it's rumored right?)

Etc...

That would have spread things out, still accomplished the deferring of costs Hasbro needed and helped prevent massive self warming.

I'm still convinced that Hasbro wanted planogram committment from Target and WalMart and to meet the deadline of the "after-the-holidays" aisle resets they rushed the repacks to the market - regardless of the negative impact on the sub-line.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 24, 2008, 11:47 AM
Definitely good ideas to me there Pete.

I just don't get reintroducing old stuff with no new stuff to help move it along. I'm not seeing any of the new stuff. Now the old stuff isn't clogging TOO bad, but their certainly not flying off the shelves.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on January 24, 2008, 12:02 PM
I agree, it would have been nice to see them break up the older sets with the newer stuff.  Target is the only place that has really gotten these here, but they do seem to be sitting a bit.  When I stopped by Target yesterday, there was 4 Anakin sets, and 1 each of the Sith and Trooper set.  Hopefully shelf-warming won't be a problem, because this is a really great line (especially with no VOTC this year), and I'd like to see it continue.

I have been half tempted to pick up another set of Anakin or the Sith sets, just to have extras of the "ultimate" versions of Anakin and Darth Maul.  I figure it would be cheaper to get the Wave 1 Anakin, and hope/wait for a single carded release of AOTC Anakin and the Maul figure.  Plus, we're getting a better decoed Palps in the Order 66 packs later this year.  Definitely looking forward to the new sets though, and hope to see more of them at Toy Fair.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 24, 2008, 12:10 PM
I agree that it would have been great to see the repacked ones more sporadic, but at least in my area, the repacked ones are moving fairly well.  Especially the Sith set.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 24, 2008, 06:37 PM
I agree that it would have been great to see the repacked ones more sporadic, but at least in my area, the repacked ones are moving fairly well.  Especially the Sith set.

Yeah - the Sith Set is definitely the hardest to find in my area as well.

The Clone Set seems to be the one with the longest shelf life. Oh how things have changed!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on January 24, 2008, 07:40 PM
I'm experiencing the same thing as CHEWIE is...  I see Clone sets now and then, but only ever see Anakin/Sith sets if I'm there when a new case was out.  And the Clone sets seem to sell eventually even, regardless, especially at Wal-Mart where, at least in my area, some WM stores are down to about 3 total basic figures... 

I gotta take a pic of my nearest WM to share...  It's pathetic.  The SW section is as nekked as it gets.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on January 24, 2008, 07:57 PM
I'm experiencing the same thing as CHEWIE is...  I see Clone sets now and then, but only ever see Anakin/Sith sets if I'm there when a new case was out.  And the Clone sets seem to sell eventually even, regardless, especially at Wal-Mart where, at least in my area, some WM stores are down to about 3 total basic figures... 

I gotta take a pic of my nearest WM to share...  It's pathetic.  The SW section is as nekked as it gets.

I'm right there with you Jesse. I went into the Wally up here in Fort Collins for the first time since being back at school. The pegs were overflowing with Comic Packs, including two of the three exclusive ones. There were tons of lightsabers. And they had a bunch of the Galactic Hero Cantina sets and the Jabba's Palace sets on clearance. There were a few Clone Evo sets on the clearance endcap too. They oddly enough had a tag marking them as clearance, but the price was the same as it always has been.

Even with all that overflow there were a whopping 4 basic figures, 1 AOTC Clone, and 3 DSTs I believe. Most Wallys around here are in a similar situation. I was kind of considering picking up another Anakin set but i haven't seen one yet. I've seen the Sith several times, and the clones are fairly easy to find. Though they luckily don't seem to be in such abundance around here that they will clog the shelves preventing the new ones from being stocked.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 25, 2008, 10:34 AM
I've noticed the TRU stores in my area are getting in a lot of the Anakin set... but no clones to be seen.  I'm thinking there are different case ratios being sent to different retailers.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on January 25, 2008, 11:11 AM
I've seen all three sets so far at TRU, Target & WalMart.  The Anakin set has seen the least shelf time out of the three, but it's catching up with the Sith and Clone sets.  It's also surprising that we're getting the grey/white Clone>Sandtrooper set and not the yellow/orange set we were told about in the Q&A's.  But whatever.  I'm not buying the reissue sets.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 25, 2008, 11:20 AM
I haven't seen the repacked Anakin set at all. The clone set is pegging in my area and the Sith set isn't far behind. And they are unfortunately getting worse. I'd MUCH rather see the new sets or at the least a mix of the two on shelves at the same time.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on January 25, 2008, 11:38 AM
Y'know, after 12 years of buying Hasbro product, I would hope to be able to figure out their logic when relaseing toys.  I saw all 3 re-released Evolutions sets tonight in 3 differnt stores.  Now, I own the original releases, and I don't buy packaging changes, so there was nothing new for me to buy.  Now, if they had put out the Jedi, Mando and Sith set, I would have spent close to 75 bucks.

The issue here is that I think these sets are going to shelfwarm because most of us have these, and the new ones, the ones that we WANT, are going to be tough to find...I just don't get it.  How does this benefit Hasbro?

Actually, I had a good conversation with one of the Hasbro folks on a very similar topic at one of the shows they were at.  And it was regarding the 2002 Action Fleet offerings.

If you're familiar with that line, the Action Fleet line had been cancelled for a year or so following the EPISODE I line.  Hasbro was looking to re-launch if for the EPISODE II line.  But the problem was that they didn't have the new ship/vehicle sculpts ready in time for the retail resets for the EPISODE II line.  But, Hasbro really wanted to get the line out there, so they decided to produce some of the more iconic vehicles in the Action Fleet line.  Why?  Mainly, to hold the space in the retail planogram until they could get the new ships produced and shipped.

Long story short, that plan backfired, and the core Action Fleet collectors left the X-Wings, Falcons and Vader TIE's behind.  They were out for the new vehicles.  But that backstock of the first wave, which were all reissues helped to put the last nail in the coffin of Action Fleet.

Now strategically, it seems like Hasbro is doing the same thing here.  I'm under the impression that the first new sets of Evolutions figures were not ready to ship in time for the new retail planograms.  And if you've been to a store in the past few weeks, you'll notice that almost all of the retailers have done a post holiday reset.  And that reset locks down which items/assortments go where on the shelves and pegs.  It seems pretty clear that Hasbro might be trying to reserve the space for Evolutions by using the existing molds they had so that product could be on shelf for those resets.

So how could things be different with this situation?  The 3.75" figure system is a much better seller than Action Fleet ever was.  It's got a 30 year history and a much broader fan base.  Plus you do have some potential clientele here:  the package variant collectors;  the completists; people who missed these the first time around; army builders (for the Clone set); and people who weren't in the hobby in 2005.  I think these Evolutions sets will sell through, albeit slowly.  I think based on the fact that we're seeing images of loose figures from Asia, the new sets will probably be in stores within a month or so.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on January 25, 2008, 12:43 PM
I've only seen these at Target so far. Most of the ones I see are Anakin sets and once in a while, a couple Sith sets will show up. Still no clones yet. I'm strongly considering picking up a boxed set, these just look really nice.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rune Haako on January 28, 2008, 01:14 AM
Padme

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2886439

Rebel Pilots

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2886417
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on January 28, 2008, 06:10 AM
hmm ships out next month too.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on January 28, 2008, 06:16 AM
I don't think that is right. We haven't even seen pictures of them yet, besides the first wave of new ones has yet to hit stores. Perhaps that is when TRU is supposed to get the first wave in?

I'm pretty excited to see some confirmation on these sets. It will be nice to get a few new Padme outfits all at once. I'm really excited for the Rebel Pilot set. I really hope it is OT only and they don't have any Naboo pilots or anything, since they technically aren't Rebel. I could see that beeing a very expensive set for me. Depending on the figures included I think I can go for at least 5.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 28, 2008, 08:57 AM
This wouldn't be the first time that TRU.com listed something with an erroneous ship date.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: P-Siddy on January 28, 2008, 04:12 PM
It will be nice to get a few new Padme outfits all at once.

I am stoked about this and I hope this set will have 3 all new outfits.

I'm interested in see who the Rebels will be. I can only guess one would be Wedge since he's a high-demand figure.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on January 28, 2008, 04:19 PM

I'm pretty excited to see some confirmation on these sets. It will be nice to get a few new Padme outfits all at once.

I'm looking forward to adding the figures to my collection.  But realistically, how are these going to sell?  I saw that fireside Padme on a lot of wishlists for a long time, and they're already pegwarming in a serious way.  Maybe if these Padme's are more action oriented (unlike fireside Padme), and they don't ship in high quantities, we'll be okay.  But I saw A LOT of fireside Padmes at a number of stores the past few days.  That certainly doesn't serve as a strong indicator of widespread love for Padme.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on January 28, 2008, 04:20 PM
I won't be surprised if the set actually ends up being a Padme-Leia-Jaina set. The set is called "Padme Legacy" and technically, Leia & Jaina are Padme's legacy. ;)

The Padme/Leia/Jaina set also better fits the pattern of mixing an EU figure in there like the other sets seem to be doing...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 28, 2008, 04:23 PM
I won't be surprised if the set actually ends up being a Padme-Leia-Jaina set. The set is called "Padme Legacy" and technically, Leia & Jaina are Padme's legacy. ;)

The Padme/Leia/Jaina set also better fits the pattern of mixing an EU figure in there like the other sets seem to be doing...

SA SLave Leia!!! Well....one can hope, can't one, lol.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on January 28, 2008, 04:24 PM
I'd actually dig a Jaina Solo figure but I'm thinking this will be a figure from each prequel.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 28, 2008, 04:31 PM
I won't be surprised if the set actually ends up being a Padme-Leia-Jaina set. The set is called "Padme Legacy" and technically, Leia & Jaina are Padme's legacy. ;)

The Padme/Leia/Jaina set also better fits the pattern of mixing an EU figure in there like the other sets seem to be doing...

That's the first I've heard of someone suggesting that... and I like it.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on January 28, 2008, 04:35 PM
well didnt hasbro say they were trying to slot in another NJO figure in for this year? maybe jaina is said figure  :o
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 28, 2008, 05:25 PM
I was always guessing this set would include:
Padme Naberrie
Padme arena
Padme Buns

While I would love the 3 above figures any trio of Padme does seem to be destined to be a dog on shelf like the Fireside Padme. Jeff's suggestion of Padme, Leia & Jaina makes more sense....

Maybe:
Padme Arena
Slave Leia (with hip articulation to lay down)
Jaina

That would be a cool set with more potential at shelf. Good specualtion Jeff!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jadesfire on January 28, 2008, 09:12 PM
Padme Evolution??!!  Padme!!??  Oh, thank you Gods-of-Star-Wars-Action-Figures!!!  All I want is a picnic Padme....can it please be Padme in any senate gown with the painted face, then PICNIC PADME and then Padme in any of her long pregnancy gowns?? - Please Gods-of-Hasbro...don't fail me now!!!!

*lights candles and sacrifices vinly cape jawa*
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: DSJ™ on January 28, 2008, 09:16 PM
*lights candles and sacrifices vinly cape jawa*

Ouch!  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on January 28, 2008, 09:29 PM
For the Evo Padme, I'd like

EI Senate Address Padme
(http://padme-amidala.navajo.cz/padme-amidala-5.jpg)

EII Picnic Padme
(http://www.cassiusblue.com/padme2.jpg)

EIII Burial Gown Padme
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/5/53/PadmeFuneral.JPG/350px-PadmeFuneral.JPG)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: P-Siddy on January 28, 2008, 10:25 PM
I hope it's an all-Padme set and not Padme, Leia, and Jaina, but I'm sure Hasbro would go that route.

I like your ideas, Jay, but for TPM I'd like this:
(http://www.cswu.cz/prequels/postavy/amidala/images/img0023.jpg)
If not funeral Padme, then this one:
(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/star_wars__episode_iii__revenge_of_the_sith/natalie_portman/wars.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on January 29, 2008, 08:03 AM
New Evo Breakdowns: (http://www.jedinews.co.uk/news/news.aspx?newsID=863)


Padme Amidala Legacy
Set of three collectible action figures based on characters from the Star Wars films includes Queen Amidala, Senator of Naboo and Mother of Legends figures.

Imperial Pilots Legacy
Set of three collectible action figures based on Imperial pilot characters from the Star Wars films includes Clone Pilot (Attack of the Clones), Clone Pilot (Revenge of the Sith) and Biggs Darklighter figures.

Rebellion Pilots Legacy #1
Set of three collectible action figures based on Rebellion pilot characters from the Star Wars films includes Dorovio Bold, Wes Janson and Ten Numb figures.

Rebellion Pilots Legacy #2
Set of three collectible action figures based on Rebel pilot characters from the Star Wars films includes Cesi “Doc” Eirriss, “Keyan “Lucky” Farlander, and Desin Ommis figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on January 29, 2008, 08:51 AM
Dorovio Bold=female X-wing pilot from unused RotJ footage

Cesi “Doc” Eirriss=female Twilek X-wing pilot from an early Rogue Squadron comic set before ANH, in which she died

Desin Ommis=Hobbie's gunner in ESB

Wes Janson=Wedge's gunner in ESB

Ten Nunb=Sullustan B-Wing pilot

Keyan Farlander=player character from X-Wing games, he flew the Y-Wing that survived the attack on the Death Star

My guess is Keyan will actually be in B-Wing gear, since these others are all obvious headswap pairs.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 29, 2008, 09:05 AM
Wow, good to have a credible idea on exactly which figures are to come. Too bad most to the pilot ones arn't ideal.

Imperial Pilots, I thought we already had an evo ATOC pilot and do we really need a SA ROTS one? The Biggs I can handle especially if he's in the TIE pilot outfit with removable helmet.

Rebs #1, Wes - yes, Bold - maybe, sounds good on paper, ten Numb, do we really need a third even if it's SA?

Bers #2, Doc - who? (yes I saw Muftak's post) Desin - yes, Lucky - as long as he's human, he'll be okay in my book.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 29, 2008, 10:14 AM
Wow if those are the breakdowns of the EVO sets, I'm not impressed.

There are still way to many MOVIE figures of these to be done.

I don't know most of these.

There's several from the trench run that haven't been done. As well with the attack on the second Death Star.

The Imp pilot set is blah. Biggs or no, I'm not buying the set for just him.

Still can't tell which Padme's are being used. I'm going to bank on these being all OLD sculpts. Hasbro will say they haven't been on the market for awhile and they wanted to get them into NEW hands. Then if that set sells well, they'll consider more Padme figures later either carded or as another EVO set. Most of us do not need those figures again. The set will pegwarm and Hasbro will claim there isn't an interest in Padme figures. That's not it, it's that there isn't an interest in OLD figures. Granted Hasbro could us the excuse of the new Fireside Padme. But to that, I'd say that is a case of too many in an assortment. Put ONE in a case and the figure sells better. It might still peg, but not as badly. Also don't put her in future assortments. Knowing she will only be available for a very limited time would urge we collectors to buy her now or pay higher priced on eBay later (a likely scenario).

In a way I'm kinda glad of how these packs are being planned. It's quite possible I'll pass on the Imp and 2 Reb pilot sets. I'll go to eBay for the one fig from each set I want, or hold out in hopes for a carded figure down the line.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on January 29, 2008, 10:32 AM
If these breakdowns are correct, I'm a little bit disappointed as well.  I guess I was looking forward to seeing what the Rebel/Imperial sets would have to offer (especially with not much OT news yet this year), and although these figures might turn out to be great, I will admit some of these characters are a bit unfamiliar to me.  I was sort of hoping for an all-new (super articulated, non Dutch Vander body) Wedge, or maybe a new SA Snowspeeder Luke, or something along those lines from the Rebel sets (and maybe the red suited B-Wing Pilot - which maybe we'll see in some form).

With the Imperial pilot sets, we already got an pretty spiffy AOTC clone pilot, and the ROTS pilot was a fine figure to me too (unless these are different in some way).  I guess we'll have to wait and see (probably at Toy Fair), but I guess the makeup of the sets is a little different than I expected.  I have high hopes for the Padme set as well, and these other sets could turn out great too.  I'm sure the figures will be quite nice (all the Evolutions figures so far have been), but the characters were a little surprising to me (if true).  That being said, I'm always happy with more Rebel pilots from the OT - so they are still welcome.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on January 29, 2008, 10:49 AM
When they says "ROTS Pilot", I wondering they are referring to the ARC-170 Pilot (maybe with new removable helmet) or possibly a V-Wing Pilot.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on January 29, 2008, 10:52 AM
When they says "ROTS Pilot", I wondering they are referring to the ARC-170 Pilot (maybe with new removable helmet) or possibly a V-Wing Pilot.

maybe a V-wing pilot...they DID just release the ship...

im kinda excited for these sets. Im a sucker for rebel pilots so both of those have me hooked already and the imp set is a given. i want to see the padme figures though...cause i dont really know what they could be,
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on January 29, 2008, 10:55 AM
I think the ROTS one is gonna be a V-Wing Pilot, though I wouldn't mind a complete resculpt of the 2005 one. As for the AOTC one, hasn't the ARC Pilot from the cartoon been rumored for a while?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 29, 2008, 12:50 PM
I agree with your thinking RQ on the V-Wing pilot.
If the sets are true, why is Hasbro even bothering calling this the "imperial pilot legacy" when you have 2 prequel clones and a Biggs? Do we really need more prequel clones? Not much imperialism to me. OK, time for my negative rant!

I do not know about the rest of you but I do not get the fascination with Biggs the Brawny guy. We got two of him last year, I was not really yearning for another figure of this background bum sporting his Magnum PI stache.(Although Tom Selleck is one of the few men in the world who can pull off a mustache and still be taken seriously) Biggs has had his time in the spotlight, lets move on from him.

I would hope for this compromise (not that it will happen):
Set 1: V-Wing Pilot - SA Tie Pilot - SA AT-ST Driver/ Imperial Scanner Gear
Set 2: EP2 Clone Pilot - SA Tie with Biggs likeness - SA Star Destroyer officer (AT-ST driver Molded in black)

The Pilot sets sound interesting but the character choices are a bit off. Luke SA Hoth Pilot anyone?
Jaina would have made more sense than the ROTJ chic they have in ther now. At least the new female pilot body will be cool and a welcome edition to the universe. Ten Numb should have been Nien Nunb if they really wanted to get the Sullestian pilot thing right. I am sure this is the Tycho body molded in white with new head/helmet.

 I really doubt Hasbro will reuse any old EP1 Padme's, this should be a nice set. I hope a really good arena Padme is included with tear away clothes. ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: evenflow on January 29, 2008, 02:38 PM
These dont sound exciting at all. I dont think i have ever heard anyone request most of those.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on January 29, 2008, 02:44 PM
My high hopes for the pilots are dashed.  Wes is okay though.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 29, 2008, 02:45 PM
I dont think i have ever heard anyone request most of those.

WORD!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 29, 2008, 02:49 PM
I think we'll have to wait until we actually see pics of all of these before making a determination. 

Cesi sounds pretty cool -

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/6/61/Doc.jpg)

I'm sure she'll share the same body sculpt as Dorovio -

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/c/ca/Dorovio_Bold.jpg)

Looks like we'll also be getting a couple more Snowspeeder pilots, sounds good to me... but what I don't get is all the love for pilots... how about some nice Rebel troopers? 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on January 29, 2008, 04:30 PM
I'm not totally disappointed...

Keyan Farlander is easilly my favorite X-Winger of all time...  I'm shocked he's even in consideration.  There's no record that I'm aware of for him flying a B-Wing so I'm gonna say he'll be in his XW outfit considering that's his real claim to fame...  he was in NJO, but he's a force-adept pilot trainer to the Jedi, and I believe is pictured in (again) X-Wing gear for that...  Which I'm 100% fine with, as that's his "iconic" outfit.  Bring him on!

The female pilots are welcome as they're there...  Would've liked a female B-Winger and male B-Winger listed though (not Ten Numb).

The Imperial set is eh...  The AOTC pilot was unnecessary at best, the ROTS pilot could be a V-Winger (I'd say it more likely IS a V-Winger over an ARC pilot actually, due to the design), and Biggs as an Imp could be interesting I think.  But I'm almost sure Biggs will have the open-faced helmet design seen in his comic where he wears the pilot uniform, and it's dumb.  Not very Imperial.  If you get a closed-face helmet, that'll be a nice figure actually.  The open-face was just so readers could tell who the pilots were, and it wasn't actually intended to be the "true" representation of the outfit they had on...  So thus, if it's open-faced I'm disappointed, but the figure itself should be nice overall.

The other pilots are eh...  I'm interested in the gunners because I'm wagering we're getting SA Hoth Pilot bodies with those now, which will be nice.  Something neutral and poseable is needed for that body so we can get a new Dak figure, and hopefully a new Wedge.  Like I said, I like the female X-Winger too, from cut footage.

The Twi'Lek's not high on my list but I'll take it.

For $20, the Evolutions sets are nice I think, so I'm down with these.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jadesfire on January 29, 2008, 05:43 PM
No Picnic Padme then..... :'( :'( :'( 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on January 29, 2008, 07:46 PM
Yeah, they are okay.  I was just hoping for something like Snowspeeder Pilot Luke and Wedge (either X - Snowspeeder Pilot), Naboo Pilot with coat, black ROTJ pilot (don't know his name), maybe even Dack.  You know more stuff from the movies.  When you see Twi-lek and Ten Nunb (yet again), and a female from the deleted scenes.  Well it's kind of a letdown.  But yeah, they will probably be nice looking figures. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 29, 2008, 08:43 PM
I'm wanting a nice Snowspeeder Luke too... hopefully these aren't just Zev bodies with new heads.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on January 29, 2008, 09:08 PM
well so far all the evo packs we have gotten have been new sculpts for the figures. (except for maybe this new boba) so i think its pretty safe to say there will not be any repacks.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 29, 2008, 11:07 PM
Characters like the Twi'Lek rebel pilot are the main reasons I don't like EU (well, besides the fact that they're not OT canon  :P).  Just because something COULD happen (like a female Twi'Lek pilot) doesn't mean it should.  Everything shown so far suggests that Twi'Lek women are not rebel sympathizers, or even have much purpose other than as dancers  ;D.  It's like the Rancor with rider- interesting idea, but just not something the OT has demonstrated as probable.  To my mind, the Rancor is a caged beast, not a war mount, just as female Twi'Leks are scenery, not warriors.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: speedermike on January 29, 2008, 11:46 PM
I kind of agree.  I like the sexism in the OT.   I don't AGREE with it, but it made the "dark times" darker.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 30, 2008, 08:48 AM
Taking the OT on its own, sure I can understand that point of view.

But when you look at the PT - you've got Twi'Lek females as senators, slaves & servants in EP1 and then in EP2 and EP3, Twi'Leks show up also as Jedi.

I think basing the fact that in the OT, one Twi'Lek female was a slave dancer and then in the OT Special Edition another Twi'Lek female was a performer/dancer - doesn't mean that ALL Twi'Lek females are slaves/erotic dancers. Considering that the context we saw them in was Jabba's palace, I think it's safe to say that the sexist nature of their roles was due entirely to the crime lord himself.

So the net-net is that I think that the only reason we didn't see more varied races fighting in the Rebelion was because GL didn't really have the money or resources. If you think about it, the briefing room scene in ANH is attended by all white British actors - why? 'Cause that's what GL had available.

By the time we got to ROTJ - in that very short scene on the Rebel Command Ship we see pilots and commandos of a variety of different races. I think if he had the ability to do so, GL would love to go back and vary the race/species of the pilots in ANH, the Hoth Speeder pilots in ESB and add even more races to the briefing room in ROTJ.

As far as figures go, I'm all for anything that gets us a new sculpt - the idea of getting a female Rebel Pilot body, is great IMHO.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 30, 2008, 09:05 AM
I'm wanting a nice Snowspeeder Luke too... hopefully these aren't just Zev bodies with new heads.

You really thing they could be? I doubt it. Evolutions is a brand name. They've got me for an extra set at least on these to make an "evo" snowspeeder Luke.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt R. on January 30, 2008, 09:52 AM
This can't be it, I think would an least one main character in each of the pilots sets.  And didn't hasbro say that a new Wedge is coming in one way or another (but not Basic) ?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 30, 2008, 10:38 AM
I'm wanting a nice Snowspeeder Luke too... hopefully these aren't just Zev bodies with new heads.

You really thing they could be? I doubt it. Evolutions is a brand name. They've got me for an extra set at least on these to make an "evo" snowspeeder Luke.

The key phrase I meant was, "... hopefully these aren't just Zev bodies with new heads."

I doubt we'd see such a blatant cheap move by Hasbro on these sets.  Though I'm really wondering why there would be two Rebel pilot sets, seems to be a bit Rebel pilot overkill.

As for Twi'lek pilots, I have no problem with it.  Just because you don't see them in ROTJ doesn't mean they weren't there, and as the Rebellion continued to inflict damage on the Empire, more and more alien races joined in the fight.

Plus, we all know that Twi'lek women can be a force to be reckoned with.   ;)

(http://www.fotosps3.com/cache/star-wars/starwarsforce5.jpg_w400.jpg)

Not to mention hotter than sin.

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on January 30, 2008, 10:45 AM
Though I'm really wondering why there would be two Rebel pilot sets, seems to be a bit Rebel pilot overkill.

Well, we were practically begging them to do something like this - there were piles of "head swap" pilot questions sent into the Q&As last year and it's something that is constantly mentioned in the forums.  ;)

If they need to do instant repaint sets like this to balance out the cost of new molds (like they did with the Clone Evo set last time), then I am fine with it.  Let's hope they sell well and then they can do the same for the basic Rebel Troops (RFT, Hoth, Endor).

Plus, we all know that Twi'lek women can be a force to be reckoned with.   ;)

Except that Shaak Ti isn't Twi'lek - she's Togruta.   :-X
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 30, 2008, 11:02 AM
Well, we were practically begging them to do something like this - there were piles of "head swap" pilot questions sent into the Q&As last year and it's something that is constantly mentioned in the forums.  ;)

I know some people were... but I never was.  I've been piloted to death... I think I'd be fine without a Rebel pilot for another 2-3 years... they're just not that interesting to me...

Except that Shaak Ti isn't Twi'lek - she's Togruta.   :-X

Close enough.   ;)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/AaylaSecura.jpg/260px-AaylaSecura.jpg)

...better?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Scott on January 30, 2008, 11:13 AM

Well, we were practically begging them to do something like this - there were piles of "head swap" pilot questions sent into the Q&As last year and it's something that is constantly mentioned in the forums.  ;)

I am totally for this...but I view these a premium way to get movie figures...not EU Crapola.  The local Targets and Wallys are plugged full of Kofi Annan 2 packs.  Not sure why they think a bunch of EU pilots will sell better than something like mixing in a Red Leader, Snowspeeder Luke or Wedge.  I like the concept but hate the finished idea.  Leave the EU stuff out of these packs IMO
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 30, 2008, 11:31 AM
I think I agree Scott... the Comic Packs seem to be a great format for introducing EU characters into the line.  I'm not saying that Evolutions will flop because of this, but I'd rather see it stick to movie characters.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on January 30, 2008, 11:41 AM
Quote
I am totally for this...but I view these a premium way to get movie figures...not EU Crapola.  The local Targets and Wallys are plugged full of Kofi Annan 2 packs.  Not sure why they think a bunch of EU pilots will sell better than something like mixing in a Red Leader, Snowspeeder Luke or Wedge.  I like the concept but hate the finished idea.  Leave the EU stuff out of these packs IMO

I agree with you Scott.  I kind of look at the Evolutions packs as the alternative to the VOTC/VTSC (and I think Hasbro has sort of said as much as well), and I kind of hope to get "movie" figures in these packs - at least the majority of them.  The Comic Packs have proved to be a good avenue for EU stuff, and I'd be fine if it (for the most part) stayed there for now.  I'd rather see a new Wedge, Snowspeeder Luke, and others than the EU characters (in this line).  Plus, in the Imperial packs, although the SAGA version was nice, I wouldn't mind seeing a new, SA TIE Pilot (or something along those lines as well).  Of course, we haven't seen pics of any of these yet, but I like your point about leaving the EU out of these packs.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on January 30, 2008, 11:54 AM
I think I'd be fine without a Rebel pilot for another 2-3 years... they're just not that interesting to me...

Well, I am one of those who would like to see every Rogue Squadron pilot out there (A-Wing, B-Wing, X-Wing, Y-Wing, E-Wing, etc) get a figure.  I love the books and the comics, so I would love figures for (most of) the characters.

Some people may prefer, oh I don't know, new playsets instead of these rebel pilot packs, but that's the way it is.  You can't please everyone all the time.  Some people get what they want, others have to keep waiting for what they want.   ;)


but I view these a premium way to get movie figures...not EU Crapola. 

Unfortunately, I think EU Crapola is the way of the future for the whole line...  :-X

I really don't have a problem with EU in these sets.  In fact, I think I'd rather see the "big name" EU characters in the Evo sets to have them done right then be in the Comic Packs and listen to everyone bitch about how they got them wrong (re: Vos and Fel) only to end up having to see them again (re: Vos and Fel).   :P

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on January 30, 2008, 11:59 AM
Hmmm... the more I think about it, I'm contradicting myself with what I want out of the Evolution sets.  I say I don't want EU stuff, but I love seeing the KOTOR Sith in a set.  And Mandalore.

I guess I'm just not that excited about pilots.   :-\

Snowspeeder Luke though?  Yes please.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: ctonra on January 30, 2008, 02:25 PM
For me I view these rebel pilot sets as a great way for hasbro to have the bodies to put out some SA figures in the coming years.  new head = SA Hoth Luke,  New SA Wedge and YES BIGGS too - long live biggs (or until he dies a firey death in his x-wing in the Death Star Trench.)   Yes it would be great to get these figs first and then have the bodies reused for EU ones.  But we are getting some love for the rebellion. If you don't like them here is where you can save some green for that mammoth AT-TE we all know is not officially coming.   Now if these rebs all come with Jango heads then we have a problem. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 30, 2008, 09:17 PM
I agree - I think these sets give Hasbro an excellent way to deliver some more SA rebel pilot bodies that can then be used to generate other rebel pilots in the future.

I have no doubt that the SA Wes Janson figure will one day be turned into SA Snowspeeder Pilot versions of Luke, Dak and Wedge.

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 31, 2008, 12:49 AM
If you think about it, the briefing room scene in ANH is attended by all white British actors - why? 'Cause that's what GL had available.


That point right there Pete is how I feel about GL as a creator.  Despite different sensibilities in the late 70s and early 80s (which I prefer to the "kewl" contemporary sensibilities  :D), I think Lucas' best work is when he is limited.  If he's given full freedom, IMO he gets out of control and introduces concepts that don't feel like the SW we've brought into our consciousness after 30 years.  Just a few of the things that bother me about post-SE, PT, and EU: CGI droids that defy the laws of physics, too many aliens with lightsabers, and inventing things like rancor battle mounts and female Imperial officers.  I feel that the OT established rules for anything considered SW in the future, and those rules have been violated by so many, including Lucas himself!

Anyway, sorry for the rant- back to the regularly scheduled discussion of Evolutions!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on January 31, 2008, 01:29 AM
Wow...  This thread is taking off.

Me, I'm all for it...  Like Jeff said, EU's the way of the future...  I just mentioned this in another thread, but the fact is that you can only squeeze out so much film **** with creativity to it before you have to dip into the other incarnations of characters.  That'll include film heroes in EU forms, recognizeable aliens people like in EU outfits like X-Wing pilot duds...  It's inevitable I think, for the line's longevity.

And at the end of the day, I think it's important to consider this; The 3-pack gets you some film though it maybe costs you something in an EU figure to get it.  You get your SA Qui-Gon Jinn, and a background Jedi from AOTC, but you're gonna put up with NJO Luke that some want to get that...  I honestly don't want NJO Luke too much, but I'll take him...  He's sorta neat looking, not from EU I like though, so I could live without him and woudl've much preferred an Obi-Wan or some other Jedi or something.  I'll take an EU Luke though.

I think it's really just the way of things... 

And likewise...  Red marking Stormtroopers, blue marking stormtroopers...  If it means we get a Stormtrooper resculpt with ball/socket hips and wrists some year, and super accurate sculpting...  Hey, I guess I'll stomach that other stuff.  I feel it can get worse of course...  I'm not to the point I am looking at some of this stuff and thinking it's A) Unbelievable, or B) "offensive" to my sensibilities as a fan...  I maybe am not wild about it, but it's not reached some breaking point with me.  But that's me.

I personally am loving the rumors on the Evolutions sets...  If it means we're getting a super articulated TIE Pilot body, great!  If it means we get a NEUTRAL size X-Winger super articulated?  Hell yeah because that means we can get a great Wedge figure!  Same with the Snowspeeder pilot...  Hopefully the same on a Y-Wing pilot, and I love the female X-Winger too as she was supposed to be there.  All great stuff...

So if I gotta take a Twi'Lek pilot?  Cool...  I actually like that, but even if I didn't, I guess I'm just saying I'd be real happy we're getting cut-footage female X-Winger, and a good X-Wing figure, and a good Snowspeeder figure...  It all is just going good to me...

And I really do dislike a lot of EU.  I thought I read a rumored Vong figure...  They're easily one of the lamest, ripped off, EU characters ever.  Upon seeing the figure though, like Pre-Cyborg Grievious is to me, I bet I find it to be fairly cool and worth buying. 

EU's pretty solidly rooted at this point IMO...  No getting past that I'm afraid, and I think it's something Hasbro is really looking at to keep the line "fresh" for future movie-less years.  How it is packaged/delivered to us (be it basic figures, multi-packs, or Evolutions), is pretty pointless to me.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 31, 2008, 09:04 AM
I like how everyone is in the same mind set - use the bodies to make even more pilots. ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 31, 2008, 02:59 PM
Haha- I'd better qualify my statements because I don't want to come off snarky or snide with my OT purist rants  ;D.  I'm actually thrilled that Hasbro has been devoting so many resources to EU because you guys, my collecting brethren, want them- and what's good for the continued production of SW is good for any niche fan (it's funny how OT-only can be considered niche; that was ALL there was up until the early 90s!).  I like discussing how I would have done things differently, but you can't deny Lucas was a marketing genius and has probably made more money since the OT, than because of it. 

About the pilot set- I'm excited if the Ten Nunb rumor is true, because imagine the alternative: a human B-Wing pilot in a multi-figure set.  I'd want multiples but would have to get multiples of other less iconic characters.  This way, we're bound to get a super-articulated version of the Sullustan to replace the admittedly good POTF2 version.  Hopefully there will be a red and white variant too!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on January 31, 2008, 04:27 PM
I can't help but bring up that Ten Nunb thing again...these are all headswaps. One female X-Wing Pilot per set, one Snowspeeder gunner, one B-Wing pilot.

I still swear Farlander is going to wind up being a B-Wing Pilot, it's the only way it works out. Nunb can't be in X-Wing pilot gear, if they wanted to do that there are bona fide EU Sullustan X-wing pilots to name it after.

Then again, a QnA recently said there would be no vintage remakes this year, which ought to exclude a B-Wing human male pilot...unless they are going with the white outfit again, even though Ten was in the red gear in the film. Or unless they were mistaken or only counted carded figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on January 31, 2008, 05:59 PM
Quote
I still swear Farlander is going to wind up being a B-Wing Pilot

I'm going against this only because Farlander never ONCE appeared as a B-Wing pilot at any time in his EU lore...  He flew B-Wings in the game of course, but never has been listed as a B-Winger or wearing that outfit.

The other thing is, and this is what bugs me on the Ten Numb figure, that Sullustan's are noticeably shorter than humans.  So I don't view it as quite as good a swappable body if that's what we end up with.  Don't get me wrong, I'd love a new Ten Numb figure, especially in red (since we have white), but I'd much prefer a human of average size.

That said, I really think Farlander's gonna be a basic X-Winger...  Hell, his EU background is from, none other than, X-Wing. :)  If that's where the guy starts and his figure is in a B-Wing outfit, that's sorta goofy to me.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 1, 2008, 10:41 AM
Yeah, JJ, it's kind of a shame that we have to suggest ways for Hasbro to be able to afford to make what we want  :P.  Really, they should make a red-suited and articulated Ten Nunb for the set, then later in the year sculpt an entirely new B-Wing pilot human body for the regular line that can either come with variant heads or be ball-jointed so we can swap heads.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 6, 2008, 11:49 AM
Here's a couple pics of my Jango -

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/020608jango1.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/020608jango2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on February 6, 2008, 12:16 PM
hmm head looks wierd but besides that it is perfect. do you know if the snowtrooper head fits on the evo jango chew?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on February 7, 2008, 01:19 AM
Got my shipping notice from New Force on the Evo Wave 2 set today.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 7, 2008, 08:37 AM
I'm kind of surprised these are a little more expensive at NFC, otherwise I would have bought a set.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on February 7, 2008, 08:40 AM
Eh, I figured with gas and tax it would be the same.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 7, 2008, 10:54 AM
Eh, I figured with gas and tax it would be the same.

Same here. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on February 7, 2008, 11:04 AM
Wow. That is a great looking figure, may be one of the best PT figures of all time.

I have no interest whatsoever in 2/3 figures from each of these new packs, so I'll probably resort to eBay to get Jango and the two others I like from this wave (Bultar, Nihilus).
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on February 7, 2008, 11:05 AM
Thanks for the pics CHEWIE.  I agree, this looks like one of Hasbro's best efforts yet, and one of the best prequel figures overall.  We were overdue for the "ultimate" Jango, so its nice to see this one on the way.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 7, 2008, 11:20 AM
Yep, great figure... also, got my email from NF... should have all four new Evolution sets tomorrow.   :o
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on February 7, 2008, 06:42 PM
:jealous: You must be right by them. I have to wait till Wednesday.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on February 7, 2008, 09:10 PM
Yep, great figure... also, got my email from NF... should have all four new Evolution sets tomorrow.   :o

(http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/gallery_Napoleon_Dynamite_1.jpg)

LUCKY!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: manglord on February 7, 2008, 11:36 PM
Looks awesome!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 8, 2008, 09:04 AM
Eh, I figured with gas and tax it would be the same.

Same here. 

That was a consideration for me, but I'm out looking for other stuff anyway...  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on February 8, 2008, 03:41 PM
CHEWIE!

do you know if any other clone trooper heads fit on the new evo jango? preferably the snowtroopers?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 8, 2008, 04:27 PM
CHEWIE!

do you know if any other clone trooper heads fit on the new evo jango? preferably the snowtroopers?

I'll try and check tonight.  I know that the TAC Jango's head fits on it fine - so I assume that any head that fits on the TAC Jango would fit.

In regards to the Evolution sets... I hope they are here today... my email notice came a LOT earlier than expected.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 8, 2008, 04:56 PM
Just checked - UPS has rescheduled the delivery date for Monday.  I knew it was too good to be true!!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth Gamboa on February 9, 2008, 03:00 AM
The LAW and I found them tonite! 4 cases to split between us from the wal-marts here in the AV in SoCAL.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2008, 03:25 AM
Nice find DG, very nice!  All 4 sets were there?  I think the FU set is my favorite of this wave, though Fett's looks nice too.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 9, 2008, 10:43 AM
Wow- can't believe they're out!  If anyone wants to get rid of a multiple Boba Fett, please let me know as he's the only one I want from that set.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on February 9, 2008, 12:07 PM
This is cool news! Expensive, but good!

And Daigo-Bah, I only want the Jango from that set so maybe once I find it we can work something out.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Ice on February 9, 2008, 01:48 PM
Found the Fetts and Jedi Evo packs, passed on the Jedi.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 9, 2008, 02:00 PM
Hey Daigo and Robo - if you guys want a third to join, I'll be happy to pay a 1/3 and take the extra Mandalore. LMK
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 10, 2008, 09:06 AM
I never in a million year thought a three-way would get worked out. Awesome for you guys!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Ice on February 10, 2008, 04:09 PM
Found the New Evo packs at my local Target in Socal. They only had Sith,Jedi,and Fetts. I picked up the Sith,since I got the Fetts yeasterday at Walmart.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Artoo on February 10, 2008, 09:03 PM
I'm going to have to keep an eye out for the Mando & FU packs.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Scott on February 10, 2008, 09:18 PM
Anyone else speculating this on the FU set:

The Jedi and Sith included with the Secret Apprentice are actually two of the possible endings to the game.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on February 10, 2008, 11:14 PM
I thought that had been regarded as a given.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on February 11, 2008, 01:43 AM
Yeah Scott, I think that's the guess...  News on the game has implied a "path choosing" option similar (but probably nowhere near as complex) as in Knights of the Old Republic...  Two distinc paths that lead to two distinct endings.

It's not unheard of in much older SW games as well.  Jedi Knight, which is quite old (but still cool) now, had the option to choose a light or dark path for Kyle Katarn...  It kind of nicely tied things up too, so that either path fit with the continuity into Mysteries of the Sith and such. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 12, 2008, 09:06 AM
Cracked open all but the TFU sets last night. Without going into detail, these are some of the best figure Hasbro's ever done. The Fetts are pretty definitive as well as the Jedi. I can gripe about Qui-gon's head and neck, but compared to the outstanding body, it's hardly worth mentioning. Everyone should be extremely pleased.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Artoo on February 12, 2008, 10:15 PM
I really hope these aren't hard to find. If they are the Fett pack will be one pain in the a** to find.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Ice on February 12, 2008, 10:38 PM
glad I got mine! I could have had two since I ran across one at target also on Sunday! They have the Jango in an awesome pose. Looking hard for the Sith Appreantice, no luck so far.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 13, 2008, 01:04 AM
My case from Newforce came Monday, but I wasn't able to get pics until tonight -

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev18.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev17.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev16.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev15.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev14.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev13.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev12.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev11.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev10.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev9.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev8.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev7.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev6.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev5.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev4.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev3.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev2.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/021308ev1.jpg)

And I already had taken these of the Jango I got off of ebay last week -

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/020608jango1.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/020608jango2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on February 13, 2008, 02:04 AM
Nice pics Chewie. That shirtless Maul looks pretty good for a Visionaires Maul custom. That Qui-Gon looks awesome too.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 13, 2008, 03:51 PM
I really like the Mandalorians and the Darth Nihilus!  Also glad that Darth Bane's ultra-gay armor is removable.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 14, 2008, 08:59 AM
That armor reminds me of one of the Micronauts Sub-lines.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 14, 2008, 12:08 PM
I really like the Mandalorians and the Darth Nihilus!  Also glad that Darth Bane's ultra-gay armor is removable.

Ultra-Gay is an understatement.
These sets overall blew me away, especially the Boba and Jango. The head/helmet proportions look great and the Boba colors are 100% movie accurate. He make the VOTC Boba look like a POTF2 figure. I found Mandolore to be quite useless as is Bane. While sporting a great head sculpt & cool saber, Bane's outfit, is a little too reminiscent of Playmates 90's Skeleton Warriors line.

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/Grimskull1.jpg)

Nihilus and Maul are awesome and the TFU set is perfect all around. I am really glad I ordered another case, the customs potentials are endless with these.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on February 15, 2008, 08:13 AM
After getting my case from New Force I definately want extras of the Jedi set and the Sith set. Maybe the TFU set as well.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 15, 2008, 02:35 PM
I picked up a Jedi set today at Walmart, for customs.

Jack - if you don't want your Mandalore figure(s) please shoot me a PM...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on February 15, 2008, 09:49 PM
Found all 4 of the new sets at a TRU store today.  Price was $19.99.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 16, 2008, 12:32 PM
Found all 4 of the new sets at a TRU store today.  Price was $19.99.

Sweet. I got an excellent deal then. I ordered a case for $77 and am getting all four.
Title: Padme Amidala Evolutions
Post by: Scott on February 16, 2008, 01:48 PM
Pics coming soon!

TPM Pre Senate
AOTC Droid Factory/Geonosis
ROTS Nightgown
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on February 16, 2008, 03:27 PM
Saw these over at Yakface.

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1562/evopadme3.jpg)

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1562/evopadme2.jpg)

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1562/evopadme1.jpg)

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1562/evopadme.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on February 16, 2008, 03:41 PM
Good peek at the Rebel Pilots pack with Ten Nunb (incorrectly in white, again!) there too.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 16, 2008, 03:48 PM
Sweet!
Nice find they look great. I cannot wait to see up close shots of the pilots. At least the "real" line is looking really good. I love Hasbro's reply to the animated look: "They are not cartoonish but have the CGI look" WTF??????
It's sucks so much tooling is now wasted on the CGI cartoon looking figures. :(
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: evenflow on February 16, 2008, 04:01 PM
These look good as well. Looks to be another good year.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2008, 04:04 PM
Outstanding Evolutions sets, as always. 

Is that Illum Padme there, or no? 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on February 16, 2008, 04:08 PM
The basic figure line could almost go away and as long as they still made Evolution sets I don't think I'd complain. These are fantastic looking figures from what I can tell. Count me in for at least one of each. Proabably more of that Rebel pilot set. :)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on February 16, 2008, 04:09 PM
Outstanding Evolutions sets, as always. 

Is that Illum Padme there, or no? 

Geonosis Arena. The hood portion was from a deleted scene.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2008, 04:11 PM
Ah, ok, thanks Jayson...  It seemed like her wrists had something on them poofy, but whatever.  I'm happy with the set even though I'm not a huge Padme fan in general.  Would prefer Rebel Troopers in a set, but hey, maybe next series!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on February 16, 2008, 04:12 PM
Outstanding Evolutions sets, as always. 

Is that Illum Padme there, or no? 

Geonsis Arena

It is supposed to be Geonosis but that head wrapping accessory looks to me like the one she wore on Ilum in the CW, IIRC... I think the costume was almost identical otherwise. Perhaps this is something akin to the first Clone Trooper/Pilot set where the figure can be used as either the Geonosis or the Ilum figure?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on February 16, 2008, 04:14 PM
The poofy things on the wrist are actually handcuffs. Kinky!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ben on February 16, 2008, 04:21 PM
Can't wait for the Padme set. Looks like I'll finally get a Droid Factory Padme I don't hate.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jadesfire on February 16, 2008, 04:28 PM
That's a great Padme set!!  Though not the figures I initially wanted, I will take it...I might even buy one and not open it  ;).
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on February 16, 2008, 04:37 PM
the last padme looks to be missing an arm :-X :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darby on February 16, 2008, 06:10 PM
Pre-Senate Padme!!   ;D  Snowspeeder Wedge?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on February 16, 2008, 06:24 PM
Pre-Senate Padme is nice!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on February 16, 2008, 08:31 PM
Snowspeeder Wedge?

Not Wedge, but Janson.  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 16, 2008, 09:00 PM
Good Padme set. I'll definitely buy one of these. Not sure about teh Rebel Pilot set. I don't want another Ten Nuib (or however you spell it).

EVO sets are pretty good this year. Value is holding at $20 sets so that's excellent.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 16, 2008, 09:03 PM
Is it just me or does Ten Nuib look a little tall? Something tells me that we're going to get this exact same body with a human head and a smaller helmet packed in with the B-Wing vehicle that's exclusive to TRU.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Scott on February 16, 2008, 09:05 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2008/Hasbro_Star_Wars/Official_Hasbro_Images/Evolutions/EvolutionRebellionPilots.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2008/Hasbro_Star_Wars/Official_Hasbro_Images/Evolutions/EvolutionPadme.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 16, 2008, 09:11 PM
The winner in the Padme set is the AOTC outfit that she wore during the back-half of the movie. We've needed a really good version of that outfit for some time and I'm glad we're getting it as part of the Evolutions set.

I am kinda disappointed by the other two though - I had hoped that whatever they did for TPM or ROTS, the outer "gowns" would be soft-goods to allow the figures to sit. I have a throne that is part of the Queen's Starship that has remained EMPTY for almost ten years now because they refuse to give us a version of Queen Amidala which is anything but a salt-shaker with some arms. So the Pre-Senate Gown Amidala is a bit of a let-down.

The night-gown Padme has thrown me completely, the scene where she has the bun-hairdo was what I was sure they were going to put in this set. I guess the night-gown scene was pretty important too, but again, since they couldn't sculpt a naked Padme and then make the night-gown soft-goods, I really don't feel that this figure is up-to-snuff when it comes to Evolutions/Vintage quality.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 16, 2008, 09:22 PM
Wow, I just went from ZERO to Flip-flop in 2 seconds flat.

First glance of the Padme set I saw had me liking the set. And not liking the Rebel Pilot set.

Now I'm disappointed with the Padme set. I do like the AOTC version, but not so much the other two.

Yet I'm digging the female RebPilot and Janson.  The Fem Pilot gives us hopes for a Jaina Solo Reb Pilot.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rune Haako on February 16, 2008, 09:50 PM
Anu info on any other Evolution sets besides these?

Maybe a Confederacy Droids one? ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on February 16, 2008, 09:52 PM
Anu info on any other Evolution sets besides these?

Nope, only the Padme and Rebel Pilots #1 were confirmed.  They did say there were two more coming, but would not confirm the rumored Imp Pilot or second Rebel Pilot sets.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2008/Hasbro_Star_Wars/DSCF7987.JPG)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 16, 2008, 10:55 PM
Wow, that rebel pilots set is gorgeous!  Ten Nunb is colored like the outfit version seen in ROTJ production stills, but yeah, the one in the briefing scene standing near Wedge and Lando is red.  Still, he looks fantastic.  The female pilot looks to use VTSC Luke's body, and the headsculpt could be a man just the same, so I'm happy to throw her into a diorama too!

Also- just reminding anyone who wants to sell a Boba from the Fett pack, I'll take him!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on February 16, 2008, 11:08 PM
Just like McDonald's, I'm loving it. The Padme set is fantastic, but I think they could have picked a better outfit for the ROTS version. Not complaining though since it's somewhat SA. The Rebel Pilots set is another winner, and it looks like we finally have an SA Snowspeeder pilot body, so start pumping out those Hoth pilots Hasbro! My one complaint about that set is that the X-Wing pilot's face looks kind of cartoonish.

Also, if it's supposed to be female, it doesn't look like much of one to me. Transvestite X-Wing Pilot? :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on February 16, 2008, 11:18 PM
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The female pilot looks to use VTSC Luke's body, and the headsculpt could be a man just the same, so I'm happy to throw her into a diorama too!

i dont remeber the VTSC luke to have miny knockers ::)

but yeah i thinks its just the same sculpt with a new torso. the set looks wicked and i defienatly cant wait to add it to my collection.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on February 17, 2008, 01:44 AM
Hasbro thinking smart there with a more modular design...  Just change up the upper torso for one with boobies and they're set due to Luke's smaller frame overall.  I like it...  I like the snowspeeder pilot too, despite not getting a new torso himself.  I can accept that.  It's vastly superior to the pack-in we got of Zev.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on February 17, 2008, 06:08 AM
Hasbro thinking smart there with a more modular design...  Just change up the upper torso for one with boobies and they're set due to Luke's smaller frame overall.  I like it...  I like the snowspeeder pilot too, despite not getting a new torso himself.  I can accept that.  It's vastly superior to the pack-in we got of Zev.

Janson looks to have a new ball-jointed torso to me... Look at the official shot of him in the diorama. Unless it is from the VTSC luke with and added collar, it is definitely new. I'm going to be down for a few of the Rebel Pilot sets. The heads almost look slightly animated to me, but they still appear to be great figures. I'm really looking forward to these ones.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Toy_Fair_2008/Hasbro_Star_Wars/Official_Hasbro_Images/Evolutions/EvolutionRebellionPilots.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 17, 2008, 09:31 AM
It looks to me that Ten Nuib uses the base TAC A-Wing pilot body (which is probably the reason why he is so tall compared to others of his species).

I had a feeling that they were going to do something like this with the B-Wing pilot since they put so much detail into the Tycho figure, it only made sense.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on February 17, 2008, 11:44 AM
It looks to me that Ten Nuib uses the base TAC A-Wing pilot body (which is probably the reason why he is so tall compared to others of his species).

I had a feeling that they were going to do something like this with the B-Wing pilot since they put so much detail into the Tycho figure, it only made sense.

i dont know man his torso seems a lot different. i think they just re-used tychos legs.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: P-Siddy on February 17, 2008, 01:46 PM
One Padme set for me! I like it.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on February 17, 2008, 03:17 PM
AOTC Padme is a vast improvement, but her torso articulation looks really poorly executed (like Trenchcoat Han) from that pic. That may be a problem.

The pilots, meh. I see it as some good Sullustan custom fodder, but that's about it. Who's the pilot with the boobs?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 17, 2008, 04:25 PM
i dont know man his torso seems a lot different. i think they just re-used tychos legs.

You're right - sorry, I think Ten Nuib shares the same legs, harness straps, crotch and arms as Tycho, the only new pieces for the figure are the Torso, Head, Helmet and hose.

That's fine if you ask me, but it's also a valid explanation as to why Ten's a bit taller this go-around.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on February 17, 2008, 04:51 PM
i dont know man his torso seems a lot different. i think they just re-used tychos legs.

You're right - sorry, I think Ten Nuib shares the same legs, harness straps, crotch and arms as Tycho, the only new pieces for the figure are the Torso, Head, Helmet and hose.

That's fine if you ask me, but it's also a valid explanation as to why Ten's a bit taller this go-around.

lol im really not trying to be an ass or anything but i think those are new arms as well. Tychos gloves are shorter and the ball joint on the shoulders  are not that visible. and after looking even more closely on ten nuibs legs they are different from tycho. This looks to be an entirely new figure. even the strap is different as the leg pieces are not connected together.

you can also tell its different legs because tycho has what looks like dress shoes/boots on while Niub has shoe laces.

either way this only makes me want this set even more.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 17, 2008, 10:04 PM
It's an all new figure. Look at this comparison:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/2272657657_65c60311c7.jpg?v=0)

Nothing about them are the same.
Besides deco being different the following are different:
gloves-note the wrinkles are different
boots-note the laces vs no laces
shoulders-"10" has no rounded areas for the republic symbol like Tycho does
The belts around their waists are completely different
straps are clearly different
chest panels are VASTLY different.
collar is open on 10 and closed on Tycho
helmets are of course different.

So this is an ALL NEW figure.

-Sal
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 17, 2008, 10:24 PM
Nice job Sal! Good eye indeed!
(I love the photoshop gradient background, classic. I mean that in a nice way to!)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 17, 2008, 11:43 PM
Nice job Sal! Good eye indeed!
(I love the photoshop gradient background, classic. I mean that in a nice way to!)

Thanks. I just wanted to throw in a quick background. It's the figures that are the main focal point of the graphic.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 17, 2008, 11:47 PM
We can try this to take out the background:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2375/2272889795_67c0a715e0.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 17, 2008, 11:54 PM
Ok - the comparison really helps.

If it's a completely new body then great! I'm all for it.

However, there is the bigger problem (no pun intended) - that Ten's a bit too tall for his race. But that's minor if it means we're going to get a red version of him with a human head at some point down the line.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on February 18, 2008, 02:37 AM
Given that this'll be my 3rd Sullustan pilot, and that the taller height (if it holds true with the final product) is a good translation to a human B-Winger in red that's average height, I'm ok with him being a little tall for his species. ;)

And hey, he'll have two now non-descript squad-mates on my shelf without making them look too different.

It's a decent figure, I just want a human already, in red...  Sheesh!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on February 18, 2008, 09:38 AM
I just see Ten as the Yao Ming of his race. ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 18, 2008, 09:39 AM
We can try this to take out the background:

NOOOO! Keep the gradient! It brings me back I loved it!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 24, 2008, 10:29 AM
These detailed shots of the pilots are fantastic, I'm really psyched for this set.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 24, 2008, 05:24 PM
I have no use for this pilot... why not a new Nien Nunb instead?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 24, 2008, 06:55 PM
These detailed shots of the pilots are fantastic, I'm really psyched for this set.

Me too!  I think Hasbro went a little photoshop-shading-crazy with that official image, but it's easy to see the beauty of the sculpting.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on February 24, 2008, 07:21 PM
I have no use for this pilot... why not a new Nien Nunb instead?

Yeah, I would've preferred a new Nien Nunb as well.  :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on February 24, 2008, 09:51 PM
why not a new Nien Nunb instead?

Probably simply because Nien Numb is iconic enough for an eventual single card release again whereas Ten Nunb here isn't...   
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Scott on February 24, 2008, 10:05 PM
I just wish they would make him in the correct Jump Suit for once
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 25, 2008, 12:01 AM
why not a new Nien Nunb instead?

Probably simply because Nien Numb is iconic enough for an eventual single card release again whereas Ten Nunb here isn't...   

Maybe that's the case, but I think it's about time we got a new version of him... the one from 11 years ago is looking really outdated -

(http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2neinnunbloose-m.jpg)

Since then we've had Ten Nunb or something pretty similar several times...

Cinema Scene (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/toys/potftennumbfront.jpg)

B-Wing Pack-In (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/potj/POTJbwingpilotfrmask.jpg)

Legacy Evolutions (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Conventions/Toy_Fair_2008/Hasbro_Star_Wars&image=DSCF7987.JPG&img=48&tt=)

I just would rather see a character that has a speaking line in the movie finally get a non-POTF2 sculpt.  Whether it's a carded figure, in an Evolutions set or whatever.  Guess in a few years if they don't update him I'll just customize my own.

The whole pilot set really is disappointing outside of the Snowspeeder pilot... don't really see a need for the female pilot (why not a character in the film, like a new fat Porkins?).  I'm thinking this set will easily be the biggest Evolutions pegwarmer yet.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Scott on February 25, 2008, 12:18 AM
don't really see a need for the female pilot (why not a character in the film, like a new fat Porkins?)

I think this is Dorovio in the attached picture
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on February 25, 2008, 01:18 AM
I didn't think the old fat Porkins was a bad figure actually...  No separate leggings sculpt, but since this is a female pilot who had some cut footage (and maybe in the briefing anyway), I'm all for her.  Plus, the sculpt opens up the door for Hasbro to go down the road of female EU pilots...  Much like Ten Numb, while maybe a tad redundant, seemingly is a solid base for a human B-Winger, with hopefully the proper helmet.  Seems to be their route with these...

That's been what I've been saying they NEED to do for years.  They need the one definitive sculpt, and move on from there...  New heads, helmets, whatnot.  They're doing that with the A-Winger to give us the proper Arvel Crynyd, and gave us a briefing scene A-Winger with Tycho (and two headgear types to boot, so they covered all briefing bases).  I'm guessing the female X-Winger body will see some re-use as maybe a Jaina Solo or one of the Rogue Squadron pilots, and same with Ten and others... 

If I gotta re-buy Ten to get a bunch of other pilots I want though, I'm happy to do that actually.  Same with the Snowspeeder pilot hopefully churning out a decent Dak or Wedge Snowspeeder...  I just hope they take their time to do a proper Luke Snowspeeder figure up for us, and not an overly tall kitbash.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 25, 2008, 09:09 AM
I just wish they would make him in the correct Jump Suit for once

That's what a second set and some paint is for. ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 25, 2008, 11:00 AM
I guess this female pilot to me is just lame, but Jaina Solo - I'd go for that.

Fat Porkins, I think is so outdated that it's not even funny... not only does he have the old straps, but his sculpt has very little detail on the outfit, and his articulation is lacking.  He's basically a POTF2 figure.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CorranHorn on February 25, 2008, 12:25 PM
I'm surprised no one has really brought up the fact that Hasbro sculpted on a headwrap for Janson. As a fan of the Rogue Squadron stories, I would really have preferred a full head sculpt for Janson. Wearing the helmet  it doesn't matter if the figure has a headwrap, so go all out and give me a full head for Janson. Then they could re-use that head to make a Janson X-Wing Pilot later - it's all about making a figure you can re-use since Hasbro is all about that nowadays. But with this headsculpt, a X-Wing Pilot Janson would look as odd as the Comic Pack Hobbie. :(
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on February 25, 2008, 12:29 PM
Fat Porkins, I think is so outdated that it's not even funny... not only does he have the old straps, but his sculpt has very little detail on the outfit, and his articulation is lacking.  He's basically a POTF2 figure.

Porkins is my favorite X-Wing Pilot so I really wish Hasbro would update him. However, I remember them joking about doing this in a QnA before (couldn't find a link).  :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 25, 2008, 02:16 PM
But with this headsculpt, a X-Wing Pilot Janson would look as odd as the Comic Pack Hobbie. :(

I agree the Hobbie is strange because he has a Snowspeeder-style headsculpt but an X-Wing body; but I personally am so glad for the Janson the way he is.  The head wrap is accurate to Echo base briefing scenes without the helmet, or with for Snowspeeder displaying.  Besides, if they make a Rogue Squadron version, they have to use a different body anyway, so a new headsculpt shouldn't be too hard to make.  I am surprised though how many collectors are more interested in getting EU styling or characters over film ones; it wasn't that long ago that a perfect version of a Snowspeeder pilot (like this Janson) was always first priority over an EU novel character (not to pick on that example, Corran, just making an observation  :-*)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on February 25, 2008, 02:29 PM
Anyone know which figures get the extra accessories in the new sets?  Specifically the staff that came with the Sith set and the electricity things that came with the apprentice set?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on February 25, 2008, 02:59 PM
The staff is from the Fett Legacy set.  That goes with Mandalore.  And the electricity goes with the Secret Apprentice (apprentice version).  If you check out the package back you'll see where those should go.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 25, 2008, 03:44 PM
The staff is pretty cool, but the electro pieces are kind of lame... I threw them away on both of my Apprentice sets.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 26, 2008, 12:20 PM
Just another gentle reminder for anyone who has an extra Boba Evolutions- I'll take him!  I'm not sure if we're doing a 3-way split or not, but I haven't seen this set anywhere yet.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CorranHorn on February 26, 2008, 04:50 PM
But with this headsculpt, a X-Wing Pilot Janson would look as odd as the Comic Pack Hobbie. :(

I agree the Hobbie is strange because he has a Snowspeeder-style headsculpt but an X-Wing body; but I personally am so glad for the Janson the way he is.  The head wrap is accurate to Echo base briefing scenes without the helmet, or with for Snowspeeder displaying.  Besides, if they make a Rogue Squadron version, they have to use a different body anyway, so a new headsculpt shouldn't be too hard to make.  I am surprised though how many collectors are more interested in getting EU styling or characters over film ones; it wasn't that long ago that a perfect version of a Snowspeeder pilot (like this Janson) was always first priority over an EU novel character (not to pick on that example, Corran, just making an observation  :-*)

No worries Daigo-bah. I just happen to think that for Hasbro to get the most bang for its buck (and ours) a fully sculpted head for Janson would have been the best move. If you think about it, we don't even see Janson without his helmet on in ESB so why bother with the headwrap, just give the guy a full head of hair and whatnot.

As for getting EU-styled characters over film ones, to me it depends on the importance. This Evolutions pack is a great example. Ten Nunb and the female pilot aren't important at all to the overall saga, hell Hasbro can't get Ten Nunb's uniform colored properly and the female was pretty much cut from the movie. Meanwhile, important characters to the overall Star Wars Universe like Corran Horn (come on you knew I had to throw that out there  :P), the Yuuzhan Vong, K'Khruk, etc aren't being made. Now had the Evolutions set come with pilots who had at least some dialogue or were seen for more than a brief glimpse in the background then that would be superb. This won't stop me from getting the set, the more pilots the better, just a little better thinking on what should be included is all I ask.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on February 26, 2008, 10:29 PM
The staff is from the Fett Legacy set.  That goes with Mandalore.  And the electricity goes with the Secret Apprentice (apprentice version).  If you check out the package back you'll see where those should go.

You sure about that?  The Mandalore has a big ax shaped thing and a shield, and while I could be mistaken I could have sworn this staff came with the sith set...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Force Guy on February 26, 2008, 10:35 PM
The Mandalore has a big ax shaped thing and a shield, and while I could be mistaken I could have sworn this staff came with the sith set...

Um, no.  The staff goes with the Mandalore, along with the shield and ax.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on February 26, 2008, 10:51 PM
The Mandalore has a big ax shaped thing and a shield, and while I could be mistaken I could have sworn this staff came with the sith set...

Um, no.  The staff goes with the Mandalore, along with the shield and ax.

Correct.

The only accessories that come with the Sith set are the lightsabers for each Sith Lord plus the orbalisk armor pieces for Darth Bane.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on February 26, 2008, 11:44 PM
Gotten two of each set... the staff is definitely Mandalore's.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on February 27, 2008, 11:29 AM
I got a chance to open up the two Evolution sets I got over the weekend (Fett and Jedi), and I have to say that I'm pretty impressed.  If this is Hasbro's way of getting "VOTC quality" prequel figures (without putting them on "vintage style cards"), I think its a good idea.  I know a lot of us weren't fans of the idea of putting prequel figures on VOTC cards, and the Evo sets offer a good opportunity to get some nice prequel figures out there.  Anyways, the Qui-Gon and Jango are two top notch figures (not to mention Bultar Swan and Boba), and even the lesser talked about figures like Luke and Mandalore are well done.  I'd really like to see this Qui-Gon and Jango released on basic cards some day, and hopefully we'll see that happen eventually.  Although I'm may be more of an OT fan overall, its really nice to see some "ultimate" style resculpts of prequel figures long overdue like Qui-Gon and Jango, and hopefully some TPM/AOTC Obi, ROTS Grievous, and others are on the way in the future.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on March 1, 2008, 01:53 PM
based on one of the videos i have seen for TFU and the T-visor helmet on the sith lord im guessing the character has something to do with Mando's. If thats the case i might just buy this set...still on the fence with it though.

The Jedi set is wicked though..loving that Luke figure, favourite one from the set by far.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Force Guy on March 2, 2008, 01:48 AM
The Jedi set is wicked though..loving that Luke figure, favourite one from the set by far.

Luke really doesn't have any competition, though, does he?  The head sculpt with Qui-Gon blows and Bultar is pretty bland. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on March 2, 2008, 11:43 PM
I don't think the Qui Gon's bad at all actually, though his neck is a little long.  Easy fix though.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Phrubruh on March 3, 2008, 04:00 PM
The body is ok. I'm just not a fan of the head. I think some of the older quigon heads were better.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Deanna Rash on March 3, 2008, 04:10 PM
Yeah,like the jedi traning gear one.That's the best head sculpt of Qui-gon,and no funky hair :o
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on March 4, 2008, 08:48 PM
just opened the Fett Legacy set and it is just short of perfect but still extremely good. My only gripe about each figure is:

Mando dude: head is almost impossable because of the tubes, and wide leg stance.
Boba: the insignia on his chest plate missing, too long of a cape.
Jango: the wires on his gauntets make his elbows hard to pose.

besides that its perfect.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Morgbug on March 5, 2008, 12:04 PM
I got a chance to open up the two Evolution sets I got over the weekend (Fett and Jedi), and I have to say that I'm pretty impressed.  If this is Hasbro's way of getting "VOTC quality" prequel figures (without putting them on "vintage style cards"), I think its a good idea.  I know a lot of us weren't fans of the idea of putting prequel figures on VOTC cards, and the Evo sets offer a good opportunity to get some nice prequel figures out there.  Anyways, the Qui-Gon and Jango are two top notch figures (not to mention Bultar Swan and Boba), and even the lesser talked about figures like Luke and Mandalore are well done.  I'd really like to see this Qui-Gon and Jango released on basic cards some day, and hopefully we'll see that happen eventually.  Although I'm may be more of an OT fan overall, its really nice to see some "ultimate" style resculpts of prequel figures long overdue like Qui-Gon and Jango, and hopefully some TPM/AOTC Obi, ROTS Grievous, and others are on the way in the future.

I'd read this and was anxiously awaiting these things arriving and they finally did today.  Naturally, the $29.99 Canadian price point is attrocious, but when you consider our basic figures are an appallilng $10 a pop, it's not a horrible price here.  But it certainly factors into my decisions on what to purchase. 

I opted only to pick up the Sith Legacy set and leave the rest behind. 

I didn't really like the Qui-Gon sculpt, to be honest.  I don't know if it was that sculpt in particular, or the newer sculpting of human characters I'm not such a fan of, or if it was just the particular figure that had bad paint apps or something different.  The Bultar Swan figure was fine, but I just didn't like the paint on that head so I couldn't justify that either.  And I'm not a big fan of the new Luke head either.  I didn't really like it too much on the Tatooine version last year or the Jedi version.  I guess it's the future head for a while, but meh. 

Tempted by the Fett set, and I might get it down the line, but I'm not dying for Mandalore and still haven't purchased the EE Mandalorian stuff.  I did get a good look at Boba and Jango and they look like really nice figures too, so a good set by my estimation. 

I couldn't bring myself to justify the FU set either.  All the figures looked nice and I might end up liking the game, but I might never play it and thus these are just random EU pieces to me right now. 

So only the Sith set came home and I just about burst out laughing when I opened it up to see the plethora of accessories with it.  Uh, hello, cheap out much.  Are you telling me you couldn't just have put Bane's accessories on Bane and left it at that?  Big boo on the non-effort there.  Pointless waste of cardboard and plastic to package these like that.  Are the other sets that craptastic with minimal accessories?  I like the figures, they are well done and mine have very nice paint apps.  But c'mon, I lose more plastic than that nearly every day.  Sheesh.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 5, 2008, 12:10 PM
Quote
So only the Sith set came home and I just about burst out laughing when I opened it up to see the plethora of accessories with it.  Uh, hello, cheap out much.  Are you telling me you couldn't just have put Bane's accessories on Bane and left it at that?  Big boo on the non-effort there.  Pointless waste of cardboard and plastic to package these like that.  Are the other sets that craptastic with minimal accessories?  I like the figures, they are well done and mine have very nice paint apps.  But c'mon, I lose more plastic than that nearly every day.  Sheesh.

Yeah, it doesn't seem - at least so far - that we're getting nearly the accessories that the Evolutions sets seemed to come with the first time around.  I thought it was funny as well, opening the Jedi set, to see that the accessory area contained only a robe for Qui-Gon.  Granted, I don't know what else this particular set needed, but all of the new ones so far seem a little sparse in that area.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Morgbug on March 5, 2008, 12:43 PM
Yeah, sparse about sums it up.  I can't/haven't seen into the other sets, so if that's all that's in there it's a fairly weak effort.  Again, great figures, but couldn't they have modified the packaging for a 2008 Evolutions look and saved on the space/plastic/cardboard simply by putting the 1-4 accessories on the figure they were meant for?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on March 5, 2008, 02:40 PM
  Granted, I don't know what else this particular set needed, but all of the new ones so far seem a little sparse in that area.

Two more robes...  :(  3 lightsaber hilts for the Jedi's belts...

I'd have given Qui-Gon his communicator thing and a rebreather too, but that's me.  All things Hasbro should have sculpts available for too.  A little disappointing but Hasbro said the new sets wouldn't have as many accessories.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 5, 2008, 02:51 PM
Great ideas Jesse, and like you said, pretty simple for Hasbro to include you would think.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Paul on March 5, 2008, 05:17 PM
Saw all the new Evo sets today (Fetts, Sith, Jedi, Unleashed) and passed on all of them..I think the lackluster showings at toy fair and the PT/EU direction the line has taken appears to have helped me get that completionist monkey off my back...

I really want only the Boba Fett out of all of those anyway, and knowing hasbro he'll be a "Legendary Legends of Lore" repack next year.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on March 5, 2008, 09:27 PM
Yeah, I have been thinking that about some of these sets.  I just want Qui-Gon from his set.  I really only want Jango.  I only want Darth Nihilus.  I only want Wes Janson.   I do want the entire Padme set.  So, I just don't know if I should plunk down $20 for only 1 figure I want in most sets?  Undoubtedly some would come in repacks at some point.  I may breakdown for the Fett set as I REALLY want Jango and Boba may not be bad to have an extra.   

Plus, I want some single pack figures yet like Jango Poncho, Roron Corob, Wolfman Jedi, etc that I have not found as of yet. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 5, 2008, 10:49 PM
Saw all the new Evo sets today (Fetts, Sith, Jedi, Unleashed) and passed on all of them..I think the lackluster showings at toy fair and the PT/EU direction the line has taken appears to have helped me get that completionist monkey off my back...

That is really something.  Man, if I could pass on all 4 of these sets, I'd have thought that I not only got the completionist monkey off my back, I'd have gotten the entire hobby off my back.

I was able to pass on the Force Unleashed evo, and barely at that.  And I am not a completionist by any stretch.  I usually buy about 70% of Hasbro's 3 3/4" offerings.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Paul on March 6, 2008, 08:04 AM
I was just as shocked (and a little saddened)

Conditions were perfect for a purchase, I had it in the budget, I haven't bought a new SW figure for myself in months, Boba Fett was in one of the packs, new parts (heads mostly) for fodder.

This very well may be the end of the modern collecting period for me.  We will know for sure if I am able to pass on OT (non EU based) Army Builders.

I am looking forward to the Rebel Pilots set that is coming, so maybe all hope is not lost.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 6, 2008, 09:01 AM
I'm still on the fence about the TFU set. It's still sitting un-opened in my SW area. I've also been seeing all the sets on the shelves lately, nice to see them getting out there.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: ruiner on March 6, 2008, 10:26 AM
I saw a few of the new ones today - TFU and the Jedi Set.  Easy passes, but if I ever see the Fett set, I'd like to pick it up.


Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on March 6, 2008, 01:30 PM
I think that's the crappy thing about these new Evolutions sets... none of the sets have that "MUST BUY!" appeal with all 3 of the figures. I mean, look back at the original sets. Both Clone sets had "ultimate" Clones (not to mention that it was the first time an AOTC Clone had been available at retail in several years) and a decent Sandtrooper too. The Sith set had our first ever SA Maul and Palpatine and a decent Dooku. And the Anakin set, well that was just awesome as we got first ever SA figs of AOTC AND ROTS Anakin and a first ever SA removable helmet Vader.

But then you look at these new sets and you can tell there was some half assing in order to get us the "ultimate" figures. There's at least one stinker in each set, IMO. For example, I only want the Qui-Gon from the Jedi set, why couldn't we get him in a regular release sometime this year? Oh, right, because Hasbro hates making TPM figures because they bomb at retail (wouldn't happen if they made better choices...). No interest in the EU rainbow Luke or chick Jedi. And the Fett set, we should have gotten that Jango as a single card, perhaps even the Boba (I've been quite happy with the VOTC Fett for 4 years now). That Mandolorian just looks stupid to me. The Sith set flat out sucks (though shirtless Maul is kinda cool) and I'm still on the fence about the TFU set.

I still say Hasbro should have made some better character choices like they did with the upcoming Padme set. Instead of giving us a crappy Mando Warrior we could have gotten an SA AOTC Boba. That would have made it an actual Fett Legacy...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: ruiner on March 6, 2008, 01:43 PM
Instead of giving us a crappy Mando Warrior we could have gotten an SA AOTC Boba.

You serious, Clark?  I was with you until that part...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on March 6, 2008, 01:56 PM
I only want the Qui-Gon from the Jedi set, why couldn't we get him in a regular release sometime this year?

we should have gotten that Jango as a single card, perhaps even the Boba

Just wait then...  out of the first 3 Evo sets, how many of the figures have been re-released in other sets and/or carded?  Just about all of them.

Deep down, we all know that at the very least the movie figures (Qui-Gon, Bultar, Jango, Boba) will all end up someplace else in the future.  Be it a Battle Pack, a Legends line, Box set, whatever...  you know we're going to see them again!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Morgbug on March 6, 2008, 02:30 PM
Deep down, we all know that at the very least the movie figures (Qui-Gon, Bultar, Jango, Boba) will all end up someplace else in the future.  Be it a Battle Pack, a Legends line, Box set, whatever...  you know we're going to see them again!

That's pretty much the approach I've been taking and will continue to take.  They made the mold, the figure is sculpted, we'll see it again.  I got burned on the blackhole stormies, not going to happen again.  Nothing is urgent, especially once they stopped including a plethora of accessories. 

I think these may be priced worse for the US shoppers than us up north, even though ours are much more expensive.  Our regular figures are $9.xx up here anyway, so a $30 set is reasonable price even if it is stupidly high compared to the US retail.  For you guys these are rounding out at near $7 a pop, which is a price you still really aren't that used to even if it might represent the future.  I didn't mind getting the Sith set because I liked the Maul (I still really like the character and it was one of the few non-annoying things in TPM, until the end) and the other two Sith figures were interesting enough to warrant the purchase.  I expect all three will likely make it to individual retail in time, but I won't care at that point.  All the other sets I couldn't justify one or two of the figures, so a pass they got. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: evenflow on March 6, 2008, 02:32 PM
Instead of giving us a crappy Mando Warrior we could have gotten an SA AOTC Boba.

You serious, Clark? 

HAHAHA NICE! I use "are you serious Clark?" all the time.

Anyway, I personally enjoy the Mando Warrior.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 6, 2008, 02:41 PM
I agree, I'd like to see a lot of these single carded down the road as well, and hopefully we will.  When we get SA, "ultimate" versions of the main characters - whether it is in the VTSC, Evolutions or even basic line - I sometimes like to pick up an extra, so I've been on the fence with what to do with these recent Evolutions sets.  I'll probably pick up another Fett set if/when I see it, because I like the Boba and Jango (and the Mando figure is actually a pretty nice figure), and I'll wait on the Qui-Gon.

I've said it before, but I wish figures like this is what they would release in a Saga Legends assortment.  They are fine in the basic line as well, but if they really want to have the main characters out there all the time, I wouldn't mind seeing a lineup of some of these:

VOTC Han Solo
EB Chewbacca
VOTC/Evo Boba Fett
VOTC Stormtrooper/Snowtrooper/Biker Scout
Evo Darth Maul
Evo Emperor Palpatine (maybe like the upcoming Order 66 paint apps)
Evo Anakin (AOTC/ROTS)
Evo Jango Fett
ROTS Obi-Wan
Evo Qui Gon
VTSC Luke (X-Wing/Bespin)
Evo Vader
R2-D2 (R4-G9 repaint)
Saga Legends/Clone Wars AOTC Clonetrooper
etc., etc., etc.

Obviously, there are others as well, but just a few off the top of my head.  Like I said, they could just have them in regular assortments as well for all I care, but I'd just like to see these figures available in the basic line.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on March 6, 2008, 03:01 PM
Diddly, I think you have a valid point... I really don't care for the Luke at all... I don't agree with the example of Mandalore (I'm not sure what else would really fit in this set... to me it's VERY refreshing to see a Mando that's not in the typical Fett type helmet)...

There's really only one figure that I think sucks out of these new ones, and that's the Maul (Luke being a close second)... but at least they make good custom fodder.

Also, if you get a Fett set and don't want Mandalore, I'll trade you a Qui Gon for him.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on March 6, 2008, 03:15 PM
I actually agree with Diddly, at least on the Mandalore (Not so much Luke, who I enjoy as a figure of a main hero's progression)...  But Diddly already supplied a pretty good replacement "fit" for the set, over the mandalore...  SA AOTC Boba Fett.  Why overlook a figure who was A) in a movie (quite a bit), and B) who has a pretty sad current basic figure... 

It may have left a little extra room for accessories too, since it would be a smaller figure.  For that, I could stand getting a nice new Boba from AOTC.  The Mandalore's a nice figure for what it is, but it doesn't really fit with anything in the collection so it's not my favorite of the series by far.

As far as the pricing goes, figures are $6.99 here Brent, so the Evolutions sets really aren't sticker shock to US collectors.  At least they weren't to me. 

Actually, the Evo sets are a hair under what you'd pay for 3 figures at retail here, after tax and all.  It's a matter of cents though, and if you're buying them at $6.99 each.  WM's $6.63, but everyone else is $6.99 or more.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on March 6, 2008, 03:39 PM
Eh, I'd say save an AOTC Boba brat for a regular carded release.  But, either way I wouldn't care as long as Mandalore was available in some fashion.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on March 6, 2008, 03:41 PM
As far as the pricing goes, figures are $6.99 here Brent, so the Evolutions sets really aren't sticker shock to US collectors.  At least they weren't to me. 

The Walmarts in my area are all $6.63, except for one which is around $5.88 still.  Target and TRU are higher though as usual.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Morgbug on March 6, 2008, 03:57 PM
Ugh, another baby Boba?  Yeah, I agree that the two previous releases leave something to be desired.  No, I don't agree we need another figure of that incarnation of Boba.  Ever. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: ruiner on March 6, 2008, 04:10 PM
Agreed.  I can't see a majority of the collectors / kids wanting Boba Brat over a cool looking EU guy.

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on March 6, 2008, 04:12 PM
they will probably just make a Teen boba for the new TV show...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Force Guy on March 6, 2008, 10:55 PM
I can't see a majority of the collectors / kids wanting Boba Brat over a cool looking EU guy.

Exactly.  The prospect of having a SA baby Boba figure is about as exciting as having a SA TPM Annie figure.  Of course, down the line, maybe Hasbro will make a Bratty Kid Evolutions set with both of those figs included.

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on March 6, 2008, 11:29 PM
As far as the pricing goes, figures are $6.99 here Brent, so the Evolutions sets really aren't sticker shock to US collectors.  At least they weren't to me. 

The Walmarts in my area are all $6.63, except for one which is around $5.88 still.  Target and TRU are higher though as usual.

Actually, the Evo sets are a hair under what you'd pay for 3 figures at retail here, after tax and all.  It's a matter of cents though, and if you're buying them at $6.99 each.  WM's $6.63, but everyone else is $6.99 or more.

Am I missing how I neglected to point that out, and that it's a matter of cents?  I guess if the $.36/figure difference can constitute "sticker shock" than my post was completely off-base...  but, really, was it?

As far as Boba Brat goes...

I wasn't really whoring an idea for Hasbro as much as I was saying what I felt made more sense and was more appealing to me personally.  Did the Mandalore really tickle that many people's fancy that the set was made or broken by that figure's inclusion?  I'm not an EU fanatic to know even who he was, so I personally would've preferred a Boba Brat with maybe some extra accessories packed in to make up the difference was all...  Maybe a new Jetpack with removable rockets for Jango (the original pack he uses), perhaps the extra effort for moving range-finders.  Either way, Hasbro could've included some pretty lame piece in that set and still sold it based on the two Fett's in it.

To me the little Boba and Mandalore have about equal "interesting" factor, but that's me.  I would've taken a film figure that needed a resculpt (but would be pegwarming fodder on its own) in the set then.  The Mandalore's not a bad figure mind you, it's just nothing I'd want myself as much as I'd like a decent Boba Fett since that wide-legged figure looks a little silly to me.  Not to mention the base wouldn't be bad for Clone Youth figures...  Which again I wouldn't mind another one of those if there was a way Hasbro could put two out in a pack together or something.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on March 6, 2008, 11:40 PM
I just had a thought, it would be kinda cool  to have an evo set of the Solo kids, Jacen, Jaina and Anakin.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on March 7, 2008, 12:39 AM
To me the little Boba and Mandalore have about equal "interesting" factor, but that's me.  I would've taken a film figure that needed a resculpt (but would be pegwarming fodder on its own) in the set then.

This is what I was getting at in my earlier post. I follow selected EU (SOTE, KOTOR 1, Thrawn Trilogy and Clone Wars cartoon, if you must know) so of course I'd rather have a movie figure instead of something I'm not familiar with. The Mando doesn't look like a bad figure, but yeah, if given the choice I'd take Boba Brat over him any day of the week.

And CHEWIE, thanks for the trade offer, but when I find both sets I've decided I'll keep all the figures. The Jedi are good enough to keep, and I'll just throw the Mando in somewhere on my shelf.

I can't see a majority of the collectors / kids wanting Boba Brat over a cool looking EU guy.

Exactly.  The prospect of having a SA baby Boba figure is about as exciting as having a SA TPM Annie figure.  Of course, down the line, maybe Hasbro will make a Bratty Kid Evolutions set with both of those figs included.

Heh, I actually want a SA TPM Annie. :-X
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on March 7, 2008, 12:47 AM
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The Mando doesn't look like a bad figure,

As figure's go, it's pretty outstanding...  :)  But as my interests go, it's pretty low on that list.  Equally I would say Darth Bane isn't high on my list.  I don't really care to have him, and I easily could've replaced Bane with a lot of other Sithy figures I'd probably have liked more.

And I'm with you on Anakin...  Like him or hate him, he is Anakin, and he is from a movie...  I kinda wouldn't mind a definitive one.  But like Kitster and Wald, he'd be better in some kind of 2-pack.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 7, 2008, 08:50 AM
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I wasn't really whoring an idea for Hasbro as much as I was saying what I felt made more sense and was more appealing to me personally.  Did the Mandalore really tickle that many people's fancy that the set was made or broken by that figure's inclusion?  I'm not an EU fanatic to know even who he was, so I personally would've preferred a Boba Brat with maybe some extra accessories packed in to make up the difference was all...  Maybe a new Jetpack with removable rockets for Jango (the original pack he uses), perhaps the extra effort for moving range-finders.  Either way, Hasbro could've included some pretty lame piece in that set and still sold it based on the two Fett's in it.

To me the little Boba and Mandalore have about equal "interesting" factor, but that's me.  I would've taken a film figure that needed a resculpt (but would be pegwarming fodder on its own) in the set then.  The Mandalore's not a bad figure mind you, it's just nothing I'd want myself as much as I'd like a decent Boba Fett since that wide-legged figure looks a little silly to me.  Not to mention the base wouldn't be bad for Clone Youth figures...  Which again I wouldn't mind another one of those if there was a way Hasbro could put two out in a pack together or something.

I agree with you Jesse.  For me personally, I'd just as soon have had an all-new SA Boba Brat as well.  The Mandalore is a nice figure, and actually pretty spiffy, but for me personally - I would rather see all new movie-based figures than EU stuff.  Like you said, Jango and adult Boba are really the selling points of this pack for most collectors/buyers, so the third slot probably could have been filled by almost anyone.  Plus, with so many people down on "little Annie" and Boba Brat, an Evo pack might be the best place to put out figures like this, since it sounds like they would sit on the pegs as singled carded figures - judging by people's opinions here.  Like you said, the Mandalore is a really nice figure.  I was surprised at how nice it was when I opened that set up, its just not a character I know anything about.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on March 7, 2008, 10:27 AM
And CHEWIE, thanks for the trade offer, but when I find both sets I've decided I'll keep all the figures. The Jedi are good enough to keep, and I'll just throw the Mando in somewhere on my shelf.

No worries, Mandalore is a really good figure in person I think... you might end up really liking him!   :)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ook on March 7, 2008, 07:07 PM
Anyone catch this?

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1230/evo_boba_pistol.jpg)

Boba's missing chest logo is sculpted onto the handle of his pistol. WTF?! :o
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 8, 2008, 09:29 AM
All I noticed is that I had to make the hole bigger in my Boba's holster in order to get the gun in there. :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on March 8, 2008, 06:38 PM
And CHEWIE, thanks for the trade offer, but when I find both sets I've decided I'll keep all the figures. The Jedi are good enough to keep, and I'll just throw the Mando in somewhere on my shelf.

No worries, Mandalore is a really good figure in person I think... you might end up really liking him!   :)

You're right. I found all four new sets today, finally, and picked up Fett and Jedi. I've only opened the Fett set so far but the figures rule. I was also impressed with the Sith and TFU sets. I planned on getting the TFU set eventually, but the Sith set I might just get solely for the Maul. I like the headsculpt, does anyone know if it'll fit on the Maul from the original Sith Evolutions set?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darby on March 8, 2008, 06:58 PM
It won't fit.   :(   I think the real reason, for me anyways, to buy the Sith set is Nihlus. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 8, 2008, 08:51 PM
Anyone catch this?

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1230/evo_boba_pistol.jpg)

Boba's missing chest logo is sculpted onto the handle of his pistol. WTF?! :o

That's queer.  The pistol in my set is black.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ook on March 8, 2008, 09:28 PM
That's queer.  The pistol in my set is black.

Mine's black too. That's a really close shot with the plastic completely drowned in flash.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on March 9, 2008, 12:05 AM
I got the Fett today as well and all three are winners in my book. Mandalore is much better in person that I had thought he'd be. Jango and Boba are awesome.  :D
Only real question I have is what's up with Boba's coloring? It's a paler green and his wrist gauntlets are pale green too instead of red like on the legends and my VOTC one. Plus he has a holster on the back of his right leg for that little jango style blaster (haven't checked to see that logo) and the back of Boba's helmet has black on it. But the articulation on both Jango and Boba is far better than any before. Plus their helmets come off and Boba has the head cap thingy like the y-wing pilot does.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JediJman on March 9, 2008, 12:40 AM
I have two Fett Legacy Evo sets and noticed a running change on the package.  My earlier one has a sticker under Fett designating that he is from Empire Strikes Back.  The later one I have just has ESB printed instead of the sticker.   ???
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on March 9, 2008, 12:57 AM
Only real question I have is what's up with Boba's coloring? It's a paler green and his wrist gauntlets are pale green too instead of red like on the legends and my VOTC one. Plus he has a holster on the back of his right leg for that little jango style blaster (haven't checked to see that logo) and the back of Boba's helmet has black on it. But the articulation on both Jango and Boba is far better than any before. Plus their helmets come off and Boba has the head cap thingy like the y-wing pilot does.

The Evolutions Boba Fett is supposed to be a TESB version.  The VOTC version was his ROTJ costume.  As for the white skull cap, that was part of the original Boba Fett costume.  If you look for some behind the scenes images of Jeremy Bulloch on the set of ROTJ, you'll see that he has that white skull cap on while in costume.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 9, 2008, 10:07 AM
I have two Fett Legacy Evo sets and noticed a running change on the package.  My earlier one has a sticker under Fett designating that he is from Empire Strikes Back.  The later one I have just has ESB printed instead of the sticker.   ???

I had one with the sticker too.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on March 9, 2008, 04:34 PM
Only real question I have is what's up with Boba's coloring? It's a paler green and his wrist gauntlets are pale green too instead of red like on the legends and my VOTC one. Plus he has a holster on the back of his right leg for that little jango style blaster (haven't checked to see that logo) and the back of Boba's helmet has black on it. But the articulation on both Jango and Boba is far better than any before. Plus their helmets come off and Boba has the head cap thingy like the y-wing pilot does.

The Evolutions Boba Fett is supposed to be a TESB version.  The VOTC version was his ROTJ costume.  As for the white skull cap, that was part of the original Boba Fett costume.  If you look for some behind the scenes images of Jeremy Bulloch on the set of ROTJ, you'll see that he has that white skull cap on while in costume.


thanks niklab, that's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure. That makes sense to me though. I haven't seen those behind the scenes photos of JB in boba outfit without the helmet. I just checked the box - my son wanted to keep it, and it does say for Boba - ESB directly printed on the package.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on March 9, 2008, 06:28 PM
Um, no.  The staff goes with the Mandalore, along with the shield and ax.

The only accessories that come with the Sith set are the lightsabers for each Sith Lord plus the orbalisk armor pieces for Darth Bane.

Gotten two of each set... the staff is definitely Mandalore's.

A week and a half later... thanks gentlemen.

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on March 10, 2008, 11:20 AM
And CHEWIE, thanks for the trade offer, but when I find both sets I've decided I'll keep all the figures. The Jedi are good enough to keep, and I'll just throw the Mando in somewhere on my shelf.

No worries, Mandalore is a really good figure in person I think... you might end up really liking him!   :)

You're right. I found all four new sets today, finally, and picked up Fett and Jedi. I've only opened the Fett set so far but the figures rule. I was also impressed with the Sith and TFU sets. I planned on getting the TFU set eventually, but the Sith set I might just get solely for the Maul. I like the headsculpt, does anyone know if it'll fit on the Maul from the original Sith Evolutions set?

I think I'm going to get another set of the Sith, but really don't need the Maul... I'll shoot to you a PM if I get another set to see if you want him.  But the head doesn't fit on the other Maul, like Anton said.  It might be able to fit though with some epoxy or something.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rune Haako on March 12, 2008, 07:01 PM
Hasbro confirms 2nd Rebel Pilots Evolutions set, Keyan Farlander is one of the figures in it. (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_49th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_112881.asp)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 12, 2008, 09:13 PM
There was some great info in that Q and A: a red suited Sullustan B-Wing pilot is definitely coming, the second pilots set will have a human red-suited B-Wing pilot and different helmet!  I can't wait to see what the other 2 pilots will be  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on March 12, 2008, 10:32 PM
There was some great info in that Q and A: a red suited Sullustan B-Wing pilot is definitely coming

I read that much more as there might be a new Nien Nunb on the way.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darby on March 12, 2008, 11:48 PM
I would love to see Snowspeeder Wedge in the second set.  Of course, that won't happen, but that never stooped me before.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on March 13, 2008, 01:15 AM
I said it before, and happily say it again, that I'm really excited to get a Keyan Farlander figure...  X-Wing was one of the most innovative and well-received Star Wars games ever, and on PC at that.  To get a figure of the pilot you play, but never see, is really outstanding. ;)

I'm not sure what uniform style they're going with as he really was never described in an OT storyline...  Maybe a post-OT showing, but regardless I'm quite happy to get a figure of him at all.  Now they need to do a complimentary set of Marrek Steele from TIE Fighter, and "Ace" Azzameen from X-Wing: Alliance.  That would friggin' rock balls.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 13, 2008, 09:17 AM
There was some great info in that Q and A: a red suited Sullustan B-Wing pilot is definitely coming

I read that much more as there might be a new Nien Nunb on the way.

I really hope you're right.  I've really been hoping we'd see some spiffy resculpts of figures like Nunb, Ackbar, and the Gamorrean Guard.  I really think that Hasbro has done some nice looking alien figures the past few years, and I'd like to see what they could do with characters like this now.  I've been holding off grabbing the POTF2 versions of some of these (I missed them the earlier time around), hoping that we'd get new versions soon.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 13, 2008, 09:24 AM
Regardless of the character, a red suited B-Wing pilot is loooong over due. Question is, what does different helmet mean? Same one just sculpted to his head size, or a different style all together?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on March 13, 2008, 02:06 PM
The Evolutions Boba Fett is supposed to be a TESB version.  The VOTC version was his ROTJ costume.  As for the white skull cap, that was part of the original Boba Fett costume.  If you look for some behind the scenes images of Jeremy Bulloch on the set of ROTJ, you'll see that he has that white skull cap on while in costume.

Here an interesting bit I found at Creature Cantina (http://www.creaturecantina.com/). Boba Fett's head is just a repaint of the TAC Stormtrooper head. Those sneaky Hasbro folks.  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 13, 2008, 05:09 PM
Holy crap, I missed that one.
Eh, whatever. I leave the helmet on at all times anyway. Nice find.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 13, 2008, 11:43 PM
Just checking again to see if anybody has an extra Boba from the Evolutions set to sell- I have paypal!  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 14, 2008, 09:19 AM
The Evolutions Boba Fett is supposed to be a TESB version.  The VOTC version was his ROTJ costume.  As for the white skull cap, that was part of the original Boba Fett costume.  If you look for some behind the scenes images of Jeremy Bulloch on the set of ROTJ, you'll see that he has that white skull cap on while in costume.

Here an interesting bit I found at Creature Cantina (http://www.creaturecantina.com/). Boba Fett's head is just a repaint of the TAC Stormtrooper head. Those sneaky Hasbro folks.  :P

I thought the head looked familiar....
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on March 15, 2008, 02:36 PM
I never picked up the TAC stormie so the helmet head deal was a surprise to me. But in the end, I still like the evo boba though my  son likes the saga legends one more because he looks like the RotJ boba. But the evo boba has WAY better articulation so tha'ts my reason.I don't take his helmet off too often either so it really doesn't matter to me. they're just toys and my son loves to play with them.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 16, 2008, 06:10 PM
For anyone that's interested, it looks like the Evolutions sets are finally popping up at HTS.  Last I checked, they had the Force Unleashed, Fett Legacy, Jedi Legacy, Sith Legacy, and Anakin to Vader sets all in stock.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 17, 2008, 09:02 AM
I've been seeing all of these in the stores more and more lately. Still no definitive shelf warmer yet.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 17, 2008, 01:52 PM
I've been seeing all of these in the stores more and more lately. Still no definitive shelf warmer yet.

Here it's the Qui-Gon/Bultar Swan/Luke set.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 17, 2008, 02:29 PM
I've yet to see the Fett Legacy on shelves here, but I've seen the others now.  The Force Unleashed I've only seen one time (this weekend), and there have been Jedi Legacy sets sitting at Target and TRU for a little bit now.  Otherwise, its nothing but the Anakin set everywhere.  I actually haven't seen either of the Sith sets on shelves here either lately.  The "new" one I've never seen, and the repackaged one I only saw once - the first time these were stocked again at Target.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on March 17, 2008, 02:41 PM
I've been seeing all of these in the stores more and more lately. Still no definitive shelf warmer yet.

Here it's the Qui-Gon/Bultar Swan/Luke set.

Not that it's a shelfwarmer here yet, but I do see the Jedi set more than the other two.  I'd like a second Sith set and still need a Fett set for a gift, but they're less common.  I will say I've seen the Fett's more than the Sith though.  Even the first Sith set seems to move more than the Clone and Anakin sets...  I think had the first series released the original Yellow Clone set, it would've moved better.  It's my preferred set personally since all 3 are movie Troopers while I find the grey one to be a little on the obscure side with the grey commander and all.  Plus a SA Clone Pilot's always a plus in that yellow set, at least to me.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Reid on March 18, 2008, 12:02 AM
Picked up the Force Unleashed set yesterday... Great pack of figures. The Jedi is very cool, looks like a cross between a CW Jedi and Obi-Wan's ANH robes. The spot for his lightsaber in his belt is pretty neat too. The Secret Apprentice's force lightning bracelets are interesting. Are they restraints commisioned by Vader to make sure he doesn't run away? Or could they just be him getting force electrocuted by Palps? Nice figure anyways. The only one I'm not a huge fan of is the Sith lord, he seems too much like a fan-fic design. Can't wait til the game's released.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: MetalJedi on March 18, 2008, 12:39 AM
Around here the sets that sit around long than most are the Jedi Legacy and the Fett Legacy.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 21, 2008, 10:11 AM
According to Jedi Insider's (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=10982) Q and A, it doesn't sound like Han or Luke Evolution sets are coming anytime soon:

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JI: Will we see more Evolution sets centered around original triology characters, for example Luke (Tatooine, Bespin, Jedi) or Han (ANH, Bespin, Endor)?

Hasbro: We do not have any plans for Luke or Han Evolution sets for this year, since many of those figures were recently done or will be upcoming in basic figures in the next couple of years. In general, on Evolutions, our tendency is to cover a theme with multiple characters (like Legacy of the Sith, Legacy of the Jedi, Legacy of the Fetts, upcoming Rebellion and Imperial pilots) or a single character we are not likely to do in basic figures for a long, long time (Secret Apprentice, Padme).

This goes in line with the news this week that an Obi-Wan evolutions set was scrapped so that the individual figures could be used to anchor waves.  I guess I can understand this thinking, and I don't really mind as long as we can get figures like "ultimate", SA versions of Bespin Han, Hoth Luke, etc. in the regular (or vintage, if it continues) line.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 21, 2008, 10:51 AM
Another Q and A stated that the Fett set will continue shipping through Summer, and will have a fixed Boba with insignia.  I haven't yet seen this set, and just want the Boba, so I guess I'll wait for the corrected version later.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 24, 2008, 09:59 AM
I know its not the most popular (or hard to find) set, but I see that BBTS has the Jedi Legacy set on "clearance" for $16.99.  A few bucks off if you're ordering something anyways, so I just thought I'd pass it along to anyone who might be interested.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 24, 2008, 06:23 PM
Another Q and A stated that the Fett set will continue shipping through Summer, and will have a fixed Boba with insignia.  I haven't yet seen this set, and just want the Boba, so I guess I'll wait for the corrected version later.

I wonder if this means that the Fett Legacy set will be reshipped in the White Legacy Collection style packaging?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on March 24, 2008, 07:32 PM
Hasbro said at Toy Fair that the 4 new Evolutions sets that are currently shipping will be reissued in the new, white Legacy packaging.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on March 25, 2008, 10:30 AM
The Sith set is selling great in my area.  I've only seen that one at retail three times, as compared to the Fett/Unleashed set I see on almost every toy run, and the Jedi sets are very common.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on March 25, 2008, 10:37 AM
Yeah, I've never seen that 2nd Sith set on the shelves around here at all (or the Fett one, for that matter).  The Anakin and Jedi sets seem to be the ones on the shelves most often.

On a side note, is anyone still seeing the original (repacked) Sith set around?  I thought about picking another one up, mainly to get another one of those Mauls (but the other two are fine too), and haven't seen them around.  No biggie, just curious if more might be making it to the shelves.  I like the Dooku and Palps fine too, but I guess I don't know if I should buy a whole extra set just for Darth Maul.  I kind of like the looks of the upcoming repainted Palpy coming in the Order 66 sets anyways.  Sorry, getting off topic, but just curious if this set was around anymore at all - it seems to be sold out at many online sources I've checked recently.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Phrubruh on March 25, 2008, 10:56 AM
Around here I've seen all of the sets. The jedi legacy one is the one that sits the most. I've been collecting these figures a la cart instead of buying the full set. All I've really wanted was the mando warrior, darth bane and NJO Luke.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on March 25, 2008, 11:11 AM
Yeah, I've never seen that 2nd Sith set on the shelves around here at all (or the Fett one, for that matter).  The Anakin and Jedi sets seem to be the ones on the shelves most often.

On a side note, is anyone still seeing the original (repacked) Sith set around?  I thought about picking another one up, mainly to get another one of those Mauls (but the other two are fine too), and haven't seen them around.  No biggie, just curious if more might be making it to the shelves.  I like the Dooku and Palps fine too, but I guess I don't know if I should buy a whole extra set just for Darth Maul.  I kind of like the looks of the upcoming repainted Palpy coming in the Order 66 sets anyways.  Sorry, getting off topic, but just curious if this set was around anymore at all - it seems to be sold out at many online sources I've checked recently.

Haven't been seeing that set anymore at all... which is a shame because it's an awesome set, and my favorite out of all the Evolution sets.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: IshiTib on March 25, 2008, 12:16 PM
i went to a toys'r'us two times last week, the second time i wanted to buy the jedi legacy set, but there it was sold out, but these sets look great, mostly the sith and jedi set
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JediJman on March 25, 2008, 12:50 PM
I have extra of all the sets except the Sith, so if anyone needs the TFU, Jedi Legacy, or Fett Legacy sets, I'd be willing to trade them or sell for cost + shipping.  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: 77Skywalker on March 30, 2008, 01:27 AM
I picked up the Jedi Legacy evolution set at my Toys R Us in Ridgefield CT a couple of weeks ago.  I don't know if any of you had noticed this but apparently, they gave Luke the wrong lightsaber.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on March 30, 2008, 07:25 AM
I picked up the Jedi Legacy evolution set at my Toys R Us in Ridgefield CT a couple of weeks ago.  I don't know if any of you had noticed this but apparently, they gave Luke the wrong lightsaber.

I'm pretty sure he had built a new one by the time NJO rolled around. IIRC it was supposed to be based of Anakin's but the blade was green instead of blue. If that is the case, he has the right one.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: 77Skywalker on March 30, 2008, 10:30 AM
I thought Luke was really supposed to have his lightsaber from Return of the Jedi.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Scott on March 30, 2008, 04:00 PM
I bought all 4 and just returned the Sith and the FU one...I'm more excited for the next few than these last 4 although I really dig the Fett one, even with the funky colors and missing tamper.  Qui Gon is really good and I actually sort of like Luke.  I agree that the lack of accessories suck but meh :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 31, 2008, 01:05 AM
I thought Luke was really supposed to have his lightsaber from Return of the Jedi.

My understanding from the books is that Luke's saber after ROTJ looked just like his ROTJ saber (if it wasn't the same one).

In Vision of the Future, he and Mara discuss how different the grips are between Anakin's and his lightsaber since she was using Anakin's lightsaber since the end of the Thrawn trilogy.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Reid on April 4, 2008, 10:24 PM
Picked up the new Sith set at TRU. Fantastic figures, but Nihilus is by far my favorite of the set. The tattered robe looks great with his molded cloak and the little details like his dreadlocks are neat. Maul is pretty cool, although I would've liked for a soft goods outer robe to be included, to make him a bit more versatile. Bane is my least favorite, the armor justs looks stupid and distracting.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: IshiTib on April 6, 2008, 03:08 PM
i ordered the jedi legacy set now, i am really excited

i haven't got a luke yet, and i think, this one is the best alternative
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on April 7, 2008, 02:39 PM
I totally missed the news about the human red B-Wing pilot.  Nice! 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 8, 2008, 09:38 AM
I have to say, none of the 30Av sets are sitting around, even the Jedi one.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on April 8, 2008, 10:21 AM
Agreed, they're selling great around here too.  I think part of it has to do with lack of new product in terms of basic figures, but either way these are doing very well it seems, which hopefully will convince Hasbro to continue this format beyond the Legacy collection (though I think the pilots set has pegwarmer written all over it).
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on April 8, 2008, 10:27 AM
I've noticed these have started selling through around here as well.  Our Wal-Marts don't seem to carry them for some reason, but Target had a pile of the Anakin sets for the longest time, and those are sold out now.  Same with TRU.  They had tons of the Anakin set out, but now just a couple remain (and a couple of the Jedi Legacy as well).  Aside from those two sets, I don't remember the last time I saw most of the others at retail at all around here.  Luckily, the "new" sets have been consistently in stock at HTS for anyone missing them.  I really like this line, and if for some reason the VOTC can't continue, I hope these do.  It will be interesting to see how the Fall sets (Pilots and Padme) do at retail, although I know I'm really looking forward to them.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on April 8, 2008, 11:12 AM
I'm definitely excited about the Padme set... I'm probably just bitter about the pilot set because I think a regular Rebel Trooper set is more appropriate (we've been getting good pilots since Dutch Vander, but haven't gotten an all new Rebel sculpt in years - Fleet Trooper, Endor Trooper or Hoth Trooper...)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 16, 2008, 09:11 AM
Per the new photo on the front page, first time I noticed a holster.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on April 16, 2008, 10:48 AM
Damn, I really don't like this... could be the first Evolutions set that I boycott.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on April 16, 2008, 11:29 AM
I'll definately need a 2 of her, gotta have a Leia pilot.  With her father's mad pilot skills she's had to have flown in something besides the Falcon.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2008, 03:50 PM
I might buy 3 sets...  To me it's as good as an army builder really.  Same for the second set.  Lots of good pilot stuff there.  I'm hoping you can swap a Juno Eclipse head onto the pilot body with some ease too. 

I have a personal gut feeling this figure will see re-use as a Jaina Solo figure for some reason.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 16, 2008, 05:08 PM
Yeah, I'm in for at least 2 pilot sets.  The holster thing is weird, but I suppose it was possible since this character was never shown in the scene.  I don't love the idea of female pilots (not sexist or anything, it's just that the OT never suggested that females were pilots, oh, and I hate the idea of female Imperial officers) but I think this figure is androgynous enough to be a teenage boy or even head-swapped with a male head.  The mammaries are small enough to be considered flight suit wrinkles  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on April 16, 2008, 05:10 PM
I have a personal gut feeling this figure will see re-use as a Jaina Solo figure for some reason.

Agreed.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2008, 05:19 PM
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(not sexist or anything, it's just that the OT never suggested that females were pilots, oh, and I hate the idea of female Imperial officers)

One female Rebel Pilot's in Home One's briefing sequence and this pilot may be as well...  There's definitely a female B-Winger (I think it's B-Winger anyway) in the background if you look close though.  This one's sequences just got cut for some reason but she had cockpit footage filmed because there are stills of her.

As for the female Imp's...  I dunno.  I still hold that females in the Empire probably pull support duty and things.  They're not likely to get the higher ranks or front line duty, but I guess it just makes sense to me to see women doing some kind of military work just like in our own Earth militaries throughout history.  :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on April 16, 2008, 05:38 PM
There is a female X-Winger in the Home One briefing scene. She can be seen during Han and Lando's dialogue before the briefing begins.

Scott actually has a picture of her listed as "Dorovio Bold" in his Who Is Left Master List (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=14572.0).

Only problem...this Dorovio is a blonde.   :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2008, 05:47 PM
Actually I think this is who Scott has listed in the Master Archive as Dorovio Bold (http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/endor/doroviobold.jpg)  Which I think is right by the helmet markings.

The other X-Winger from Home One with blonde hair is...  (http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/endor/kinkian.jpg) Kin Kian or something.

So there's two X-Wingers and I coulda sworn a woman in red flight suit is standing way in the back too with the B-Wingers.  It's so heavily shadowed though it's tough to tell that one.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on April 16, 2008, 06:01 PM
Oops, I stand corrected. I didn't even see the other female in there. (Man, Scott really needs to number those pictures or something...) :-[

Anyways, I'd wager they are the same actress judgung by the photos side-by-side like that.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2008, 06:03 PM
I can't really tell...  I wonder if the helmets are the same.  Wish I could see below the pic there to see what helmet she has to know if it's to be the same character.

The only thing that makes me think they're different (besides the name listings I guess) is that other than Wedge there isn't an identical character in the Home ONe scene that is at the battle (and filmed) I don't believe.  At least I've never noticed the same actors in the Home ONe scenes as in the cockpit footage scenes.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on April 16, 2008, 09:02 PM
Well, other than the extreme die hards who study the films frame by frame, I'm sure most people are going to wonder where female pilots fit into the Rebellion.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2008, 09:28 PM
Do people, besides us, really analyze the toys that much?  Not to mention the Evolutions sets aren't seemingly aimed square at the casual audience at $20 a pop...  Seems to make sense then that Hasbro would look for some obscurity from the films for us, like Bultar Swann, a female Rebel Pilot, or perhaps an EU design nobody knows like say the Mandalorian.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 17, 2008, 09:18 AM
I'm in for two sets as well, but it might be of the second one with the human B-Wing pilot. I'm mainly after the Snowspeeder pilot bodies.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on April 17, 2008, 11:54 AM
Do people, besides us, really analyze the toys that much?  Not to mention the Evolutions sets aren't seemingly aimed square at the casual audience at $20 a pop...  Seems to make sense then that Hasbro would look for some obscurity from the films for us, like Bultar Swann, a female Rebel Pilot, or perhaps an EU design nobody knows like say the Mandalorian.

Obscurity can be a good thing for sure.  I just happen to think that this female Rebel is as lame as it gets (Mandalore is a lot more appealing it seems, and maybe Bultar Swan too since we see a fair share of female Jedi in the films).  But this chick?  Nah. 

I'd be in favor of them giving us another alien pilot or something instead; perhaps a Mon Calamari as seen in the X-Wing series.  Or, perhaps a Naboo pilot with jacket... heck, I would have been ok with the female Naboo pilot that we actually see have a line in TPM be made instead... just my two cents.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 17, 2008, 03:32 PM
Do people, besides us, really analyze the toys that much?  Not to mention the Evolutions sets aren't seemingly aimed square at the casual audience at $20 a pop...  Seems to make sense then that Hasbro would look for some obscurity from the films for us, like Bultar Swann, a female Rebel Pilot, or perhaps an EU design nobody knows like say the Mandalorian.

Obscurity can be a good thing for sure.  I just happen to think that this female Rebel is as lame as it gets (Mandalore is a lot more appealing it seems, and maybe Bultar Swan too since we see a fair share of female Jedi in the films).  But this chick?  Nah. 

I'd be in favor of them giving us another alien pilot or something instead; perhaps a Mon Calamari as seen in the X-Wing series.  Or, perhaps a Naboo pilot with jacket... heck, I would have been ok with the female Naboo pilot that we actually see have a line in TPM be made instead... just my two cents.


Yeah, I have to agree with Chewie here. I think there were far and away many better choices than a human female X-wing pilot. The only reason I see them doing this is for a future Jaina Solo X-wing pilot. Then maybe some female alien pilots.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on April 17, 2008, 04:18 PM
Wow never seen so many guys not wanting to see a woman before  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 17, 2008, 04:28 PM
I think it's a neat idea, and it's nice to see something original.  The sculpts look pretty good too.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on April 17, 2008, 04:32 PM
What sucks is that with the Evolution sets, if there's a figure that you don't like, and you want a few of the others, you kind of get stuck with several of one figure that you don't want. 

This is the second time this has happened to me - the new Sith set has two figures I don't care for - the shirtless Maul and the Bane figure.  That one sells really good though because it's Sith figures it seems (plus I could swear they don't have as many of these per case as the others, but I'm probably wrong).

I have no problem with there being an X-Wing chick though, but I'd rather have seen her in a Comic Pack than in this format.  It seems more suitable in my book.

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on April 17, 2008, 04:39 PM
I have no problem with there being an X-Wing chick though, but I'd rather have seen her in a Comic Pack than in this format.  It seems more suitable in my book.

I can buy that arguement.  There are plenty of female pilots in the Rogue Squadron series and it does seem like it might have made a better fit over there... though the same could be said for Mandalor and NJO Luke too.

I too would have preferred a more recognizable X-Wing pilot that we all would have loved (new Wedge, Red Leader, etc), but I will gladly take Dorovio as well. :)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 17, 2008, 05:13 PM
Well, other than the extreme die hards who study the films frame by frame, I'm sure most people are going to wonder where female pilots fit into the Rebellion.

Yep, that's my thing.  My collection is all about scenes that spark nostalgia with recognizable characters and environments, with a little obscurity thrown in for good measure.  I wouldn't have known there was a female pilot in the ROTJ scene unless somebody showed me, but the fact that there is one is enough for me to accept this character (plus you can rationalize there may have been some female pilots, since ROTJ is where the rebellion goes from all-human to mixed races anyway).  But if for some reason she doesn't look right sitting in my briefing diorama, the body sculpt is ambiguous enough to head swap into a believable male.  Now for the female Imperial officer: just to qualify my earlier statement, I have no problem with Hasbro making EU stuff for you guys that like it.  Since I collect OT only, I'm not buying those anyway.  But thinking objectively about it, I don't believe there would ever have been hot female Imperial officers based on what the films suggest.  I think anybody can come up with rationale for what would be "cool" to see in the SW universe (like primitives riding painted rancors and hot bared-midriff female jedi), but for the most part just about any EU concept I've seen doesn't "feel" right to me.  A few of the vehicle designs do, and a couple characters, but by and large they feel "SWINO" to me (Star Wars In Name Only).  Sorry for the mini-rant  :-*
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: ruiner on April 17, 2008, 05:23 PM
There's only one reason why EU exists.

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on April 17, 2008, 05:31 PM
Well, other than the extreme die hards who study the films frame by frame, I'm sure most people are going to wonder where female pilots fit into the Rebellion.

Yep, that's my thing.  My collection is all about scenes that spark nostalgia with recognizable characters and environments, with a little obscurity thrown in for good measure.  I wouldn't have known there was a female pilot in the ROTJ scene unless somebody showed me, but the fact that there is one is enough for me to accept this character (plus you can rationalize there may have been some female pilots, since ROTJ is where the rebellion goes from all-human to mixed races anyway).  But if for some reason she doesn't look right sitting in my briefing diorama, the body sculpt is ambiguous enough to head swap into a believable male.  Now for the female Imperial officer: just to qualify my earlier statement, I have no problem with Hasbro making EU stuff for you guys that like it.  Since I collect OT only, I'm not buying those anyway.  But thinking objectively about it, I don't believe there would ever have been hot female Imperial officers based on what the films suggest.  I think anybody can come up with rationale for what would be "cool" to see in the SW universe (like primitives riding painted rancors and hot bared-midriff female jedi), but for the most part just about any EU concept I've seen doesn't "feel" right to me.  A few of the vehicle designs do, and a couple characters, but by and large they feel "SWINO" to me (Star Wars In Name Only).  Sorry for the mini-rant  :-*

I see what you mean.

Do you also feel that way about most PT stuff too?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Phrubruh on April 17, 2008, 06:07 PM
But thinking objectively about it, I don't believe there would ever have been hot female Imperial officers based on what the films suggest. 

Why don't you believe there were any hot looking female Imperial Officers based on the film? Is it because all the Imperials are played by old ugly union british actors? Why couldn't the imperial bridge have people that looked like the ones on the bridge of Battlestar Galactica or Firefly?  Where does Admiral Daala fit in to this view?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 17, 2008, 09:33 PM
I guess I figure if it's believable that a 100 different species of aliens could be pilots, why not a female human?  I can certainly understand that she's not a recognizable pilot, but she's definitely a believable character in my mind.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JediJman on April 17, 2008, 10:47 PM
Why don't you believe there were any hot looking female Imperial Officers based on the film? Is it because all the Imperials are played by old ugly union british actors? Why couldn't the imperial bridge have people that looked like the ones on the bridge of Battlestar Galactica or Firefly?  Where does Admiral Daala fit in to this view?

Personally, I'm a little torn on this.  The problem is that Lucas didn't have the forethought to include more alien rebels and women in ANH.  They eventually got around to more aliens by ROTJ and I think it makes sense that there are imperial women and rebel pilots, but it does feel a bit off because we don't see any in the films.  The female rebel pilot is a little more pallatable for me than the female imperial officer, however.  Maybe its just me, but I've gotten the sense from both the movies and EU that the Empire was intended to have a little bit of the "Master Race" thing going on. That seems to also exclude women and non-caucasions.  Based on the lack of women in the Empire (Daala and Mara are the only two I can think of off hand), it feels like this was pretty much an old boy's club of white guys.  If not, why not make a black male imperial officer, like they've done with so many of the Rebels and other factions?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 17, 2008, 11:45 PM
But thinking objectively about it, I don't believe there would ever have been hot female Imperial officers based on what the films suggest. 

Why don't you believe there were any hot looking female Imperial Officers based on the film? Is it because all the Imperials are played by old ugly union british actors? Why couldn't the imperial bridge have people that looked like the ones on the bridge of Battlestar Galactica or Firefly?  Where does Admiral Daala fit in to this view?

I think you just answered your own question.  EXACTLY because all the imperials are played by old English men.  The lack of female Imperials in the trilogy had nothing to do with budget concerns, and everything to do with Lucas' vision of an oppressive regime that didn't have room for "emotional" women.  Also, I think it's precisely why SW is so different from the shows you mentioned, and even Trek: there's no equality in the Empire.  Frankly, I think adding EU characters like Daala and the TFU one reduces SW to the tactics of comic book trends such as the "bad girl" craze.  I LOVE looking at hot women like the next guy, I just don't like when it's inserted into the mythos of the OT, which is better than the fanboy tactics, I think.  CHEWIE asked if I feel that way about the prequels, and I have to admit I do.  To use a hot female example again, it really irked me to see Aayla Secura in the films.  Don't get me wrong, she's got a fantastic bod, but I refuse to believe the Ben Kenobi we "met" in 1977 was part of an organization that had barely dressed alien women in it.  We were shown that Jedi were speculative, contemplative, formally dressed beings not concerned with sensuality.  Then you have this Twi'Lek jedi created in comics (where the bad girl trend began) placed into the film for the sake of enticing guys.  Strong-willed female characters like Leia and Mon Mothma are great, but recent EU and prequel females that are off-model from what we know in the films, added for the sake of hotness just bothers me a bit.  I'd rather get my fix from Maxim magazine than Star Wars  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on April 18, 2008, 12:03 AM
I do have to agree with what you are saying Daigo-Bah regarding the female aspect.  Lucas had a vision of the Empire that was very much inspired by post-WWI Germany.  And what we've seen (for better or for worse) since Star Wars began to surface again over the past 13 years is "evolution" around today's culture. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on April 18, 2008, 01:26 AM
I think there's too much focus on the FILMS here though...

To argue your point that it doesn't feel Star Warsy because of what you see DB, I can see the angle you're coming from, but my angle is that you see 1/1,000,000,000 of what's happening in the galaxy...  You see a couple Destroyer bridges...  Maybe they're relegated to male-only?  You see the Death Star(s)...  Maybe they're also relegated to men only in these positions.  We see the crew of one Imperial Shuttlecraft.  We see no garrisons, or outposts...

What I'm saying is, we see NOTHING of this galaxy by the movies.  The only real diversity you even see is in ANH and ROTJ...   And they're in seedy clubs or gangster fortresses.  Not really a broad view of the galaxy then. 

So to me a female shuttle pilot tasked with hauling some guy back and forth because some higher-up demands it seems plausible...  Just a woman today may be flying a med-evac chopper into and out of military areas, but she's not getting an automatic weapon thrust in her arms and told to go clear out that suspected insurgent house. 

Not to sound sexist, but that's sort of how our military is today...  The women serve in a greater capacity than ever in history, but they're by no means on equal terms yet.

As the X-WInger goes...  It's from the movies, so that's 100% all I need to hear to make me want the figure.  That's above recognizeable EU characters (for the most part), and whatnot.  Not to say I don't want EU at all, but I also recognize a desire for movie OT figures in me that 99% of the time overrides my EU wishes.

The female Imperial...  Like I say, maybe they're working in engineering?  Maybe they're performing other tasks.  Ultimately we see the bridge and hangar bay (and those briefly) of Destroyers, and we see the Death Stars which I can buy the idea that the DS's are considered very "elite" postings and the Empire would overlook (or possibly 100% ignore) posting women...  And for all we know there coudl be women there too...  How much of the Death Star do we really see?

It's a fraction, and to me it fits well enough with our own history...  The Empire's based somewhat in the German Military of World War 2...  There were women in uniform for Germany during the war, so I can buy it basically.  I find that characters like Admiral Daala and Ysanne Isard are pushing the envelope of what I believe though...  So I do have my limits too. 

A shuttle pilot with basically a ****** job?  I'm ok with that.

The rebels I look at as largely mixed with races and sexes from the get-go.  If you went by the supposed vision of the movies, the budding Rebellion was an all-whites club because there isn't a black face in that crowd on Yavin.  I think Lucas was limited to what was available, and you have to suspend disbelief and imagine some Mon Cal's, Sullustan's, Twi'Lek, and other species are around there too...

But then again I also am in the mindset that the Alliance has multiple fleets and they're "small" only by comparison to the Empire.  Meaning that they're still a large, organized, and functional military body...  They're only relatively small and rag-tag compared to an almost limitless Empire.  It's a completely different way of looking at the original trilogy ultimately.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on April 18, 2008, 02:34 AM
I don't think this would even be a discussion if they had put her in a comic pack instead.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on April 18, 2008, 02:58 AM
Because it wouldn't be the same character and wouldn't be from the film then?  Or would the conversation then be, "boy I wish I had gotten (Random alien or human male Rogue Squad Pilot) instead of (Random female Rogue Squad pilot)".

My opinion is Hasbro's got definitive pilot bodies coming...  That means half of what everyone's saying they want or would rather is likely to happen now.  Or at least the opportunity is certainly presenting itself in a very positive way.

At the same time, we're getting a Rebel Pilot set with a pilot that is obscure from Return of the Jedi...  I'm all for a Red Leader, or new Wedge figure for certain, but does a female X-Winger in the Evolutions set mean that won't happen?  Not likely...  If anything, we get her this way because she'd probably not be quite as popular as a basic figure.  Red Leader (and his droid), Wedge, or some of the other more prominent pilots are likely to sell better at retail.

Also, like I said before...  Jaina Solo and the like are presenting themselves a much more feasible figure now since Hasbro has this "body" available to just churn out with new headsculpts.  The Rogue Squad females as well.  So it's not like they're doomed to never happen in the comic 2-pack form either.

So I'm stickin' with being happy to see this figure...  It's obscure, it's from the films, and it seems at least possible that we'll see more female Rebel Pilots from the EU (and maybe film?) after this because the body is available and definitive.  That just seems like good news heeped on more good news to me...  I dunno.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 18, 2008, 09:51 AM
Yeah, I think this set needed to have an obscure X-Winger as you say, JJ, because it would be less likely to sell as an individual figure due to its obscurity.  A character with prominent screen time like Red Leader or Wedge would be much better candidates for single cards.  I don't know if Dorovio was in comics or not, but I could see her showing up there instead too, Chewie.  It really doesn't bother me at all that she's in this set, especially knowing she's in the background of the film (even if she's not prominent).  If she HAD come out on an individual card, I'd be much less certain if I'd buy her though.  Here it's like she's bonus!

About the broader view of the Empire and the rebellion... your rationale is perfectly logical, JJ.  My own comprehension of the vastness of a galaxy as an adult is nothing like my perception of the films as a kid, where there was just a handful of systems and I thought they were relatively near to each other.  Also, there is the budget constraints GL had durting ANH and even later.  But using just the films as rationale (which I like to do, even though they're hardly a complete view of what might be logical), GL showed us how things operated in his story.  He showed us in ANH that the core of the rebellion were former senators and military men along with young male pilots and soldiers.  The audience of the Yavin ceremony appeared to be several hundred men and just Leia.  I like to think that the people in that temple represented the vast majority of the rebellion at that time.  Then, in ESB we see female console operators in Echo base, and all male Hoth soldiers and pilots.  By the time of ROTJ, many alien races had joined in the struggle, and likely a few women operated as pilots (but we do see a few female techs in the meeting room too).  As for the Empire, there isn't any evidence that women are a part of it at all, and I think that fits in with Lucas' view that the Empire is a non-just tyrannical regime with no place for women.  In the trilogy, women were portrayed either as strong-willed princesses, simple good women like Beru, or they were shady objects of desire like Oola, the Tonnika sisters and so forth.  By today's standards that's probably sexist, but it's part of the formula of SW I think.  I like to think that in the films we saw the majority of each side's numbers, but I realize that it may be way underestimated by most people's standards.  A lot of people think that there were multiple thousands of Star Destroyers in the galaxy, but I feel there were only several dozen!  I know logically that wouldn't make sense, in order to patrol/govern a galaxy, but still I like to extrapolate based on what we saw, and I think the Empire would have the majority of its force present at Endor to finally crush their biggest resistance.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 18, 2008, 11:05 AM
Well if anything, I can now make a Pink 5 custom...
http://www.trudang.com/pinkfive/
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rune Haako on May 3, 2008, 10:03 PM

(http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/ee/56/7196_1.JPG)(http://i22.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/ee/56/584d_1.JPG)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 4, 2008, 09:31 AM
Where did that come from?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on May 4, 2008, 03:32 PM
Looks like that's from the ePay.  Behold Doc, everyone.  I wonder if they managed to make a helmet for her.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 5, 2008, 09:07 AM
I was wondering the same thing about the helmet since I don't know her in the comics
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on May 5, 2008, 11:52 AM
While I'm glad to be getting more pilots, is it just me or is anybody else not liking the fact that Hasbro is sculptig the skull cap, what is that thing called anyway?, to them.  While I understand somewhat with this Twi'lek there not being a removable version because of her head tails, what about with Janson.  Why not just include the cap fron Tycho?  It just seems to limit them to only being in their pilot gear, and not being able to use them for other custom heads.  I'm sure there not walking around Echo base or whatever Capital ship they might be stationed on with those things on their heads all the time right, and they must have a uniform besides pilot gear.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on May 5, 2008, 12:12 PM
If they have the cap... might as well make TWO heads for each one.  That would solve a lot of problems.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on May 5, 2008, 03:01 PM
(http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/ee/56/7196_1.JPG)

While I'm glad to be getting more pilots, is it just me or is anybody else not liking the fact that Hasbro is sculptig the skull cap, what is that thing called anyway?

I agree, it looks like she's wearing tighty-whities on her head  ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on May 5, 2008, 03:32 PM
Still better than the female human pilot.  At least in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on May 5, 2008, 03:52 PM
Still better than the female human pilot.  At least in my opinion.

its the same figure...besides the head.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on May 5, 2008, 04:40 PM
Still better than the female human pilot.  At least in my opinion.

its the same figure...besides the head.

I realize that... hence, why I like it better than the human one.   :)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 5, 2008, 05:08 PM
Still better than the female human pilot.  At least in my opinion.

its the same figure...besides the head.

The same "Man" figure except the upper torso as VOTC Luke. That's a MAN baby!!!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on May 5, 2008, 05:56 PM
(http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_movies_actors/film_images/Austin_Danger_Powers_Mike_Myers.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on May 5, 2008, 06:00 PM
(http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/ee/56/7196_1.JPG)

While I'm glad to be getting more pilots, is it just me or is anybody else not liking the fact that Hasbro is sculptig the skull cap, what is that thing called anyway?

I agree, it looks like she's wearing tighty-whities on her head  ::)

Does remind me a bit of the movie Wierd Science now that you mention it.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on May 5, 2008, 06:37 PM
We've known who and what this figure was going to be for quite a while now...I'm surprised by all the negativity. It's exactly what I thought it would be.

I think I'm looking forward more to this second pilots set than the first one.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on May 5, 2008, 07:10 PM
I'm digging both...  Super articulated Rebel Pilots?  Who cares what they are, they're great figures... 

I get where guys are coming from on the helmet liners, and wish it was like Tycho as well.  I'm digging them as they are though.  I'm anxious to see this chick's helmet too.  Twi'Lek helmets in the comics are funky to say the least.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on May 5, 2008, 07:18 PM
I must be in the minority that really didn't care for Tycho's enormous hat, then....
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on May 5, 2008, 10:56 PM
If this was what was in the first set, I don't think I'd be complaining at all.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on May 6, 2008, 12:09 AM
I must be in the minority that really didn't care for Tycho's enormous hat, then....

The only thing is that Tycho's hat is just for his briefing look and the helmet's for his flight look so it's as though Hasbro actually gave you the best of both worlds...  The hat was almost a secondary accessory to me then.  I'm thinking of giving them to some future customs just to get the pile of them into the hands of someone who can use them.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on May 6, 2008, 11:26 AM
I must be in the minority that really didn't care for Tycho's enormous hat, then....

Me either but at least his is removable.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: clonebuyer111 on May 14, 2008, 04:03 PM
the female Twi'lek pilot looks cool
i will buy that set for her
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rune Haako on June 12, 2008, 09:04 PM
(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/Hasbro/Legacy_Collection/Evolutions/Imperial_Pilots/Imperial_Pilot_Legacy_01__scaled_600.jpg)

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/Hasbro/Legacy_Collection/Evolutions/Imperial_Pilots/Imperial_Pilot_Legacy_02__scaled_600.jpg)

(http://jediinsider.net/g/albums/Hasbro/Legacy_Collection/Evolutions/Imperial_Pilots_Set/Imperial_Pilot_Legacy_03.jpg)


Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on June 12, 2008, 09:12 PM
Well I wasn't gonna believe the red B-Wing pilot until I saw him, but YAY! close enough I guess.

Wonder if Biggs's body isn't just a Death Star Gunner...pictures aren't clear enough to tell. I don't need the clone pilots (though that is certainly an upgrade from the POTF2-styled ROTS pilot...just wish they would have tagged him as "Oddball") so I probably won't be picking this set up, but Biggs as an all-new sculpt would be enticing.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Reid on June 12, 2008, 09:13 PM
Wow! That set looks nice. I'd never thought they'd do a Biggs in his TIE Fighter outfit. Is the AOTC pilot supposed to be the ARC Pilot from the CW series? Cool if it is, although he's missing the rangefinder.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on June 12, 2008, 09:56 PM
It looks like it may be the open-faced helmet on Biggs, and on that end I'm disappointed, but otherwise it's nice and I'm hoping we get this pilot with the full-face helmet at some point in the basic line.  I'll army build that thing till I'm nauseus.

The Clone Pilot...  Eh whatever on the AOTC style one...  It's different so I'll take 'em, but the ROTS one is OUTSTANDING looking.  :)  And doesn't smash the original to the point that you won't want the army you've already got...  This is a good set.

The next Rebel pilot set looks great too from what you can see there, and I really do hope Evolutions are more heavily stocked.  The other sets were a bitch to find here, the 2005 sets were a bitch to find, and I've simply been disappointed at the distribution of these overall.  May be something I need to pre-order this year online and hope my order goes through.

I know I only saw the Sith and FU set 2 times total and bought them both times I saw them...  That's some crummy distribution there, so I hope the new sets in new boxes get better distribution than that.  :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on June 12, 2008, 10:14 PM
Hmmm... I like this set for the most part. Biggs and the ROTS Pilot are great but I'm not that thrilled with the ARC-170 Elite Squad-esque Pilot. I would have preferred a V-Wing pilot. Oh well, it'll round out that TAC battle pack nicely.

I didn't follow the comics, but was Biggs' face able to be seen through the helmet like that? I think in the Legacy comics, the TIE Predator pilots have more of an open face design. Maybe this tooling will be used down the road for those.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on June 12, 2008, 10:21 PM
Yeah, Biggs and his squad mates had the open-faced helmets so you could tell who was speaking dialogue, etc.  It's lame to me though.   :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on June 12, 2008, 10:45 PM
I am so, SO glad they're updating the ROTS Pilot. I never thought they'd get around to that so soon. I personally hate the one from the ROTS line with a burning passion. >:(

Other than that, nothing overly exciting here. Heck, I'd say the most exciting thing here is the red human B-Wing Pilot being confirmed. :D
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on June 13, 2008, 12:13 AM
I didn't follow the comics, but was Biggs' face able to be seen through the helmet like that? I think in the Legacy comics, the TIE Predator pilots have more of an open face design. Maybe this tooling will be used down the road for those.

The clear faceplate shows up in those comics as well as DK's THE COMPLETE CROSS SECTIONS.  The TIE Bomber pilot has the clear faceplate in that artwork.

Pretty cool selections for the Clones.  It's nice to see that ARC Pilot from the space whale Gunship get made.  And the ROTS Pilot with removable helmet is very welcome, too.  Biggs is just gravy to me.

I'd definitely be into getting a second Imperial Pilots set.  Maybe a V-Wing pilot, black squadron pilot w/ helmet markings and maybe Han Solo as an Imperial Pilot.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 13, 2008, 09:19 AM
Wasn't quite expecting that. For the most part, they look great, but I'm disappointed with the open face Biggs helmet. The best part is, I'm not going to need to army build this set.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on June 13, 2008, 09:24 AM
Looks like a pretty nice set, and the confirmation of the red suited B-Wing pilot is great as well.  The Evolutions line has pretty much been a home run thus far in my eyes, and like Jesse, I'd like to see the distribution on these improve a bit.  Heck, with the prices of the basic/comic pack lines, if these stay at $19.99, they're a decent deal as well.  Hopefully this line will continue into 2009 as well.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 13, 2008, 09:30 AM
Well I wasn't gonna believe the red B-Wing pilot until I saw him, but YAY! close enough I guess.

Wonder if Biggs's body isn't just a Death Star Gunner...pictures aren't clear enough to tell. I don't need the clone pilots (though that is certainly an upgrade from the POTF2-styled ROTS pilot...just wish they would have tagged him as "Oddball") so I probably won't be picking this set up, but Biggs as an all-new sculpt would be enticing.

I'm actually pretty cool with this set. I'll prolly get two sets in fact. (Need two pilots for the Shark Gunship). I'll be glad to have the removable helmet ROTS Pilot. That was a custom I had wanted to do for a long time now and Hasbro has saved me that trouble. AND I've actually wanted that Biggs TIE Pilot. By the looks of it, the "visor" is up (or retracted) on his helmet so you can see his face. That's only mildy disappointing if that's the case. (But true to the comic)

Since I'll be buying two of that set, I may be trading/selling the extra Biggs. So if anyone is interested, LMK. Muftak, since you mention liking the Biggs fig, if you want first dibs on the extra one I'll have, post here and/or PM me.

-Sal
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 13, 2008, 09:31 AM
Man, I feel like I'm getting more bitter in recent years, but I'm not happy  :-X.  That set shouldn't be called Imperial, other than the Biggs; I was sure we were going to get 3 OT style pilot types.  THRILLED to get a red B-Winger (see my post signature) but why in an Evolutions set?  He needs to be individually carded to army-build, like Tycho!  I'm going to end up with a few dumb female Lekku head pilots...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: ctonra on June 13, 2008, 09:37 AM
Sal,
     If Muftak passes on Bigg, I would be willing to trade/buy him from you,
Chris
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 13, 2008, 11:19 AM
Sal,
     If Muftak passes on Bigg, I would be willing to trade/buy him from you,
Chris

Okay cool. For now I'm only looking for Kashyyyk troopers. Though when wave 2 Legacy hits I'll be looking for a few multiples there.

Consider the Biggs on hold for you, if Muftak passes. If I don't hear from Muftak by the end of the day, then the trade will default to you.

I'll let you know.
-Sal
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on June 13, 2008, 11:57 AM
I'll take 3 please.  3 ROTS'rs for the ARC-170, 3 Biggs' and holo out the 3 OTC TIE Pilot helmets I already have, 2 for the ARC Gunship, & trade/sell the extra.


But who's the other Hoth rebel pilot on the back of the box?  They alt the heads on the female, and the paint/head on the Bwinger, could we be getting Wedge?  If so he better not have that damn skull cap.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on June 13, 2008, 12:10 PM
But who's the other Hoth rebel pilot on the back of the box? 

According to the rumors from a while back, the third pilot in that 2nd Pilot set should be "Desin Ommis" or something like that... 


Imperial Pilots Legacy
Set of three collectible action figures based on Imperial pilot characters from the Star Wars films includes Clone Pilot (Attack of the Clones), Clone Pilot (Revenge of the Sith) and Biggs Darklighter figures.

Rebellion Pilots Legacy #1
Set of three collectible action figures based on Rebellion pilot characters from the Star Wars films includes Dorovio Bold, Wes Janson and Ten Numb figures.

Rebellion Pilots Legacy #2
Set of three collectible action figures based on Rebel pilot characters from the Star Wars films includes Cesi “Doc” Eirriss, “Keyan “Lucky” Farlander, and Desin Ommis figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Scott on June 13, 2008, 12:20 PM
Kesin Ommiss is Hobbie's gunner I believe

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on June 13, 2008, 02:24 PM
Sal,
     If Muftak passes on Bigg, I would be willing to trade/buy him from you,
Chris

Okay cool. For now I'm only looking for Kashyyyk troopers. Though when wave 2 Legacy hits I'll be looking for a few multiples there.

Consider the Biggs on hold for you, if Muftak passes. If I don't hear from Muftak by the end of the day, then the trade will default to you.

I'll let you know.
-Sal

He's all yours, ctrona. Thanks for the offer, Sal. I appreciate the gesture.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on June 13, 2008, 03:08 PM
But who's the other Hoth rebel pilot on the back of the box? 

According to the rumors from a while back, the third pilot in that 2nd Pilot set should be "Desin Ommis" or something like that... 


Imperial Pilots Legacy
Set of three collectible action figures based on Imperial pilot characters from the Star Wars films includes Clone Pilot (Attack of the Clones), Clone Pilot (Revenge of the Sith) and Biggs Darklighter figures.

Rebellion Pilots Legacy #1
Set of three collectible action figures based on Rebellion pilot characters from the Star Wars films includes Dorovio Bold, Wes Janson and Ten Numb figures.

Rebellion Pilots Legacy #2
Set of three collectible action figures based on Rebel pilot characters from the Star Wars films includes Cesi “Doc” Eirriss, “Keyan “Lucky” Farlander, and Desin Ommis figures.

Why I've no idea who they are, which seems weird why'd they make Janson and not Wedge it's just a head sculpt and paint apps on a helmet.  Oh well I guess we keep waiting.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth Broem on June 13, 2008, 11:53 PM
I actually like  Biggs.  Yeah, the open face kind of sucks but I would probably keep the helmet off of him in a pose anyway.  I am really not all that excited about the other 2 pilots.  I guess is is nice that they updated the ROTS pilot.  It seems like an odd choice to make that blue pilot.  I would have thought they would have gone with a V-Wing pilot especially since they released it as a vehicle.  Then again they would not want 2 pilots from the same film in this set.  Oh well. 

I am happy to see the red B-Wing pilot.  I will probably get that set for certain. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 14, 2008, 07:28 AM
Sal,
     If Muftak passes on Bigg, I would be willing to trade/buy him from you,
Chris

Okay cool. For now I'm only looking for Kashyyyk troopers. Though when wave 2 Legacy hits I'll be looking for a few multiples there.

Consider the Biggs on hold for you, if Muftak passes. If I don't hear from Muftak by the end of the day, then the trade will default to you.

I'll let you know.
-Sal

He's all yours, ctrona. Thanks for the offer, Sal. I appreciate the gesture.

Sure Muftak.

Okay ctrona, it's yours. Keep in mind my trade wants when this comes around.
-Sal
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 14, 2008, 10:21 AM
It occurred to me that perhaps a second TIE helmet, non see through, comes with the set (you know, as an accessory.)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2008, 10:56 AM
Given that they already have a nice TIE helmet sculpt laying around (from the Comic Pack Baron Fel figure), it would be nice if they tossed it in there as an accessory...  I guess we can all hold out hope it's in there!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 15, 2008, 02:13 AM
So we've seen the Imperial Pilot set:

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/Hasbro/Legacy_Collection/Evolutions/Imperial_Pilots/Imperial_Pilot_Legacy_01__scaled_600.jpg)


And now the first Rebel Pilot set:

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/Hasbro/Legacy_Collection/Evolutions/Rebel_Pilots/Rebel_Pilots_01__scaled_600.jpg)


But I really want to see the second Rebel Pilot set! (in closer detail than the pic on the back:)

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/Hasbro/Legacy_Collection/Evolutions/Imperial_Pilots_Set/Imperial_Pilot_Legacy_02__scaled_600.jpg)

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 15, 2008, 03:04 PM
What is it with Hasbro and the white B-wing flightsuit?  Did they even watch the movies?

On a more positive note, I like the other two pilots in the set.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Scott on June 15, 2008, 11:52 PM
What is it with Hasbro and the white B-wing flightsuit?  Did they even watch the movies?

On a more positive note, I like the other two pilots in the set.
Usually those color and likeness type things are dictated by LFL
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 16, 2008, 09:08 AM
It is pretty amazing that it's taken about 7 years since the first b-wing pilot to get any in a red outfit.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt R. on June 17, 2008, 08:57 AM
I will buy the Imperial pilots set and take Baron Fel's Helmet,and Clone Head and put it on Biggs to make him and SA TIE Pilot .

Is the CW Pilot the ARC Pilot ? 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 17, 2008, 09:12 AM

Is the CW Pilot the ARC Pilot ? 

Why not?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on June 17, 2008, 11:12 AM
It occurred to me that perhaps a second TIE helmet, non see through, comes with the set (you know, as an accessory.)

I'm hoping for this as well, but not counting on it.  After all they already have a remvable helmet mold, and doubt that Biggs' head is bigger then Fel's melon so I'd assume it'll fit.  But if they give Biggs an extra helmet I'd love it even more if they included the ROTS pilot with the CW "enclosed" helmet nontoony version of course.


Hmmm... Wouldn't be cool if the EE exclu was a bunch of ROTS Pilots w/their different helmet insignias?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 18, 2008, 09:12 AM

Hmmm... Wouldn't be cool if the EE exclu was a bunch of ROTS Pilots w/their different helmet insignias?

No.

Please don't hurt me...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on June 18, 2008, 05:27 PM

Hmmm... Wouldn't be cool if the EE exclu was a bunch of ROTS Pilots w/their different helmet insignias?

No.

Please don't hurt me...
Just thinking that's the only way to get ROTS pilots with various painted hemets.  You know they might rerelease him on a card or maybe a battlepack so I'm betting we might get at the least 3 different helmet apps down the line.  You can tell Lucas and team was going that direction to tie in with ANH.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: manglord on June 18, 2008, 09:21 PM
I wanna see Biggs helmet... Looks like a conversion is in order. Fun!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt R. on June 21, 2008, 03:00 AM

Is the CW Pilot the ARC Pilot ? 

Why not?

I meant is the CW Pilot the ARC Trooper Pilot of Vol. 2 of Clone wars? sorry if I meant the ARC ship.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on June 21, 2008, 04:47 AM
I was thinking it was the pilot from the "Shark Mouth" Gunship that transported the ARC Troopers on Muunilist in the cartoon (at least I think that was the planet).  I thought they had unique paintjobs, and they're noticeably missing then from their gunship.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on June 21, 2008, 10:13 AM
Sounds like the V-Wing Pilot is coming in 2009 (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=44187#44187) in a second Imperial Pilots pack according to the latest Yak Q&A.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 21, 2008, 10:18 AM
A second Imp pilot set? Cool.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 21, 2008, 11:11 AM
Any signs yet of the re-release Fett set with Boba's emblem in place?  Or is it another July 26 thing?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: EpicGon on July 2, 2008, 01:22 PM
Han, Leia and Luke Trilogy evolutions, SA, full detail


this is for fun ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 2, 2008, 01:39 PM
We had a story about that The Fett Legacy set on the front page Daigo-Bah.  Check it out, it was towards the end of June.

7th Story down.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 2, 2008, 04:38 PM
I'm in for two sets as well, but it might be of the second one with the human B-Wing pilot. I'm mainly after the Snowspeeder pilot bodies.
might have a trade for you there Anton, I'll keep heads but I don't want the Hoth pilots at all.  Didn't make sense to me if the suits are supposed to be survivable in space why the extra "cold gear" when on Hoth.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 2, 2008, 05:00 PM
Actually I think this is who Scott has listed in the Master Archive as Dorovio Bold (http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/endor/doroviobold.jpg)  Which I think is right by the helmet markings.

The other X-Winger from Home One with blonde hair is...  (http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/endor/kinkian.jpg) Kin Kian or something.

So there's two X-Wingers and I coulda sworn a woman in red flight suit is standing way in the back too with the B-Wingers.  It's so heavily shadowed though it's tough to tell that one.

Sorry jesse but Kin is a guy, check Wookiepedia.  It does look like a pony tail in that pic but if you watch the whole of the briefing scene very carefully and look @ the other pic on wookie he's sportin a shaved head.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 2, 2008, 05:56 PM
I went over ROTJ and saw in the briefing the Red pilot-Bwinger, Grey pilot-Ywinger, Orange-Xwinger, & Green-Awinger.  Where are the guys in white, are they in the actual battle?

I think it was in this forum where everyone was going back and forth between the roles of women in the rebel alliance, there are about 6 female officers/tech in the khaki uniform during the briefing.
Back me up Daigobah w/that badass dio of yours I'm sure you've watched that scene over and over again.

Wondering what helmet we'll get for the human b-winger, there are pilots in the red outfit walking around the hanger when Han/Lando are talking about taking the Falcon, some of them had red "x-wing" helmets on.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 2, 2008, 07:29 PM
Back me up Daigobah w/that badass dio of yours I'm sure you've watched that scene over and over again.


LOL- yeah, there were both women and men wearing the khaki tech outfits with the caps that had an eye design on them.  I made a couple male versions here:

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/rotjmeettechs1.jpg)

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/rotjmeettechs5.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 2, 2008, 11:46 PM
There is indeed B and A-Wing pilots with X-Wing style helmets on...  Not to say they aren't X-Wingers, or some other pilot, but I've always argued those guys in the past.  They're noticeable as Han/Lando say their goodbyes on Home One's hangar floor.

Ultimately I think the whole "color = pilot duties" is stupid...  Same with the helmets.  The helmets are probably handed out to various squads, and you get what's available.  One may be a Rebel manufactured, or several may come from sympathetic manufacturers, and some may just be stolen/found/donated.  Considering Han has a helmet in his ship that is identical in every way to the ANH pilot helmets, I'm guessing it's just a popular helmet.

In the briefing scene, A-Wingers are seen with the "Tycho" style helmet and the cloth liners on...  Yet we see A-Wingers with a totally unique helmet (The upcoming Arvel Crynyd has this helmet on) in the movie's combat scenes. 

And you're right, that is a dude jedipurge...  Weird.  I had no idea who that person was actually but thanks.  So one female pilot...  Good to know.

If it's of any interest to anyone, the original X-Wing game actually had a "randomized" thing that put a picture, supposedly of your character, up on the screen.  You'd change the name and you'd get a different look.  it included everything from Mon Calamari pilots cobbled together from film pilot images and the Mon Cal officer images, to all kinds of pilots and uniform colors with helmet combos to match.  Basically, any pilot could have on any gear at any time, and it didn't really matter.

The white suited pilots never made it tot he film for one reason or another, but the only white suited pilot ever pictured (as far as I know) is Ten Numb.  And ultimately he makes it to the film, but in red, during the Ewok celebration.  I've heard people refer to him as Nein Numb also, but I think there's a shot of Nein at the party in his Falcon get-up, and Ten is seen in full B-Winger gear, but all in red.

Somewhere I read the B-Winger's suit was dyed red at a later time just on a Lucas whim too...  Forget where but I know it was a making-of type book.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 3, 2008, 09:46 AM
Wow, cool techncians Daigo-Bah. Now Hasbro has to make some.

Purge, we shall certain chat about a trade when the time comes.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 3, 2008, 11:32 AM
Thanks Jesse, so does make the white suited b-winger EU  :P.  I also kinda figured the same thing as far as the different colored uniforms/helmets go as well, you take what you can get.  But I was just mostly wondering what I should buy whn these sets hit.  Probably get one w/the white and get more of the red and all my Hoth pilots can go to Anton  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 3, 2008, 01:52 PM
Quote
so does make the white suited b-winger EU

Technically yes...  Anything not in the movies is EU, so that'd count I guess.  I just put the white suited Sullustan(s) I have in with all the other pilots.  Just another schmuck in a jumpsuit.  If they did someone in a blue one, they'd just get mixed in somewhere.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on July 3, 2008, 02:03 PM
Woh! Kin Kian's a guy!!!! You really do learn something new everyday! :o
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 4, 2008, 12:35 PM
I'd heard something about a picture floating around of the Fett Evolutions set in the Legacy packaging without the right emblem on Boba Fett...  I'll post it again here but we have a shot of the item with the emblem on it.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Legacy_EvoFettsBobaCloseup_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Legacy_EvoFettsBobaCloseup_Full.jpg)

You can see pretty clearly the logo in place there...  I'd guess the other image of the Fett Legacy set is actually a mock-up and we will be getting the emblem in place.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on July 8, 2008, 03:50 PM
It looks like someone has found the new Evolution sets (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/New_Evolutions_Found_115907.asp) including Rebel Pilots I and II, and the Imperial Pilots (with pictures of all the new ones) - so it looks like they could be there for the 26th release.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 8, 2008, 04:58 PM
I love the stash on the second Hoth pilot, very shoe salesman. these look great! I am so excited to spend even more money than I already was on 7/26! Keep it coming, it grows on trees ya' know.

All jokes aside, I am glad to see these will hit very soon.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on July 8, 2008, 07:33 PM
In a way I was not happy to see these will be coming on July 26 simply because I really want to buy them but they did not fit in my budget. So now in order to pick up the imp and rebel v2 sets I have to skip on buying the At-Te   :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 8, 2008, 11:43 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2008/EVORebel2.jpg)

Just look at that gorgeous set!  How am I going to get the 4 or so B-Wingers I need for my diorama?  The Hoth pilot looks excellent as well, and the Twi'Lek will be easy enough to behead and replace with a human head  :D

Edit: now I can change my post signature to reflect getting the human B-Wing pilot  :-*
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 9, 2008, 12:54 AM
Now put a damn Fleet Trooper in there. :)

Yeah, great set(s) to me...  I'm down for many of these if I can find many of these.  It's an army building dream, a set like this.  The Twi'Lek hopefully will accept the Marion/Russian chick head too.  Make some customs...  Other heads are available out there too, so I look forward to much customizing and army building with all the Evo sets but Padme.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on July 9, 2008, 01:01 AM
The only annoying this with customizing this set will be finding spare helmets to fit human female heads. That is such a  minor gripe though I'm excited they made a helmet to fit the twi'lek, hopefully it will fit some of the male aline X-Wingers I've made. I'm in for quite a few of this set. I could use a bunch of Red B-Wingers and some more Snowspeeder pilots. I'll probably rebuy the Fett set as well. That was probably my favorite Evolution set out of the last batch and I could use another Boba and Jango somewhere around the collection room. I may end up getting two of the Imperial Pilot set. If that faceplate on the Biggs had been closed it would have been a whole lot more. I probably won't grab as amany of the first Rebel variant but I'll get one or two for sure. And count me in for one Padme set as well. Damn this is going to be expensive... :-X
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 9, 2008, 09:23 AM
I was thinking that the female pilot helmet might be the same size as the vintage Luke helmet, which is smaller than all the other helmets (Vander, Zev, Biggs.) I guess we'll see when we can get them side by side.

But, yeah, great to see the Pilots II set and know that it'll be out on the 26th.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt R. on July 10, 2008, 07:42 AM
Great, I will be buying 2 of each. I am definely making my own Y-Wing Pilot and the correct Ten Nunb (taking Nunb's head and Human B-Winger's head and switch it about and boom instantly 2 new pilots)

note:  I know Y-Wing pilots are Grey, but white is close to grey in an way.

also making my own Snowspeeder Luke (an Luke head popping on
Wes and some how get an Han Holdster belt on him & Boom SA Snowspeeder Luke)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 10, 2008, 12:02 PM
Great, I will be buying 2 of each. I am definely making my own Y-Wing Pilot and the correct Ten Nunb (taking Nunb's head and Human B-Winger's head and switch it about and boom instantly 2 new pilots)

note:  I know Y-Wing pilots are Grey, but white is close to grey in an way.

also making my own Snowspeeder Luke (an Luke head popping on
Wes and some how get an Han Holdster belt on him & Boom SA Snowspeeder Luke)
what about the VTAC Bespin Luke.  I thought about the same thing with the white pilots using them for gret but I wasn't sure how close these b-wingers are to the y-wingers.  My luck they'll come out with the ROTJ y-winger in some wave a couple months down the line.  so I think i'll stick to buying/building V2 of the set and just get 1 V1.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 11, 2008, 10:34 AM
Upon closer look at the Snowspeeder pilot, looks like the stance is too wide. Disappointing.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 14, 2008, 12:00 AM
A Y-Winger is fairly different in the torso details than a B-Winger.  I made a couple customs by using the head and torso of the POTF2 version from the cinema scene with the arms and legs of a modern X-Wing pilot.  Their suits are grey as well.

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/ywingpilot1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 14, 2008, 09:16 AM
Grey? I never noticed. I'll have to pay attention next time I watch Jedi.

As always, nice custom.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 14, 2008, 12:44 PM
Thanks Anton- yeah, in fact it is a solid, sort of pale grey.  Mine is a bit darker because I covered him in black then drybrushed in the grey.  They are seated in the top row of the bleachers on the leftmost side, more left than the X-Wing pilots.  The A-Wing pilots sit below them on the first row.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 28, 2008, 09:58 AM
Cracked open the rebel pilot sets - love 'em. Well done. I'm a tad disappointed that the B-Wing pilots have different neck sizes, kind of ruins my head swap custom plans.  :P It's also odd that Ten-Numb's neck color is human flesh colored. But, still, strong sets.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on July 28, 2008, 11:38 AM
Had to go to three different Targets to find all 4 sets, but I got them.

Padme Amidala x 2
Imperial pilots x 2
Rebel pilots 1 x 1
Rebel pilots 2 x 1

Gotta say, that Padme set might be the best Evolutions set to date.  What beauty!

The Rebels are a lot better in person that I envisioned, especially the Twi'lek set.  Might actually get a second of that.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 28, 2008, 12:27 PM
I just started cracking open rebel set 1 last night (hope to find set 2 today).  Wonderful!  I really love Janson's helmet decor and Ten Nunb's sculpting.  I'm going to paint him red even though I like the white color scheme (unless I can find a white version somewhere in the background of the movie  :P)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Reid on July 28, 2008, 02:03 PM
Picked up the second Rebel Pilots set at Midnight Madness.

Cesi Eirriss- Favorite figure from this set, bar none. I love that we're finally starting to get alien Rogue Squadron pilots, and this one is a good one. I dig her holster, and her helmet is amazing.

Kesin Omnis- Least favorite figure, if only because he's a little bland. Just another human snowspeeder pilot for me. Still, he's a pretty good figure, and I hope we see a new Snowspeeder Luke with this mold.

Keyan Farlander- Right up there with Eirriss as one of my favorite figures from this set. This figure rocks, plain and simple. You get a vintage resculpt and a EU figure in one. What's not to love?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on July 28, 2008, 02:34 PM
Finding them for $15 at Walmart... wow.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Keonobi on July 28, 2008, 02:38 PM
http://jediinsider.net/g/index.php?mode=view&album=2008_SDCC%2FHasbro&pic=129.jpg&dispsize=800&start=0

Per this picture from Jedi Insider and what Chewie said, I think they are seriously overpriced around albany, I'm seeing them for $20-$25.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on July 28, 2008, 03:33 PM
$13.50?  Whoa... I hadn't seen that before.

In my area, Target and TRU has them for $19.99... I'm guessing that Walmart's odd $15.00 price point is a computer error, as that's what they clearanced the previous Evolutions at.  If their price was really supposed to be around that, it seems like it would be $14.96 or something like that.

Another reason I think this is an error on their part is due to some people including myself finding the Mon Calamari wave for $5.00 at Walmart... the same Walmart that clearanced their TAC figures for $5.00.  Looks like someone entered them in the system wrong, at least at a few stores.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Keonobi on July 28, 2008, 04:11 PM
Yeah, $13.50.  All the other pictures that show prices seem to be pretty accurate to what we see in stores $7.99 for basic figs, $20 for battle packs, etc.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 29, 2008, 09:35 AM
Opened the Imperial Pilots yesterday. Decent set, but Hasbro did loose some army building sets from me with the Biggs.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 29, 2008, 11:34 AM
Opened the Imperial Pilots yesterday. Decent set, but Hasbro did loose some army building sets from me with the Biggs.

Was it the Helmet or the head?
If it's the hemet I'd say it's time to contact Mangalord, Anton and send him the Baron Fel helmet  ;)
I was kinda thinking about using the Biggs helmet for some sort of Imperial ground gunner or something.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on July 29, 2008, 12:19 PM
Since I've bought a few of the Fel Comic Packs, I'm just swapping those helmets out.  The hoses still fit, just a bit tight.

The Biggs helmet actually looks pretty sweet on the Fel head.  I'm thinking though that the Biggs helmet would be ideal for some Mobile Artillery Driver customs.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on July 29, 2008, 01:59 PM
Since I've bought a few of the Fel Comic Packs, I'm just swapping those helmets out.  The hoses still fit, just a bit tight.

The Biggs helmet actually looks pretty sweet on the Fel head.  I'm thinking though that the Biggs helmet would be ideal for some Mobile Artillery Driver customs.

what did you do with all those figs?  :-\ can't imagine what kind of custom fodder they'd make.  They both kinda sucked in my opinion.
kinda what i was figuring with the Biggs helmet there has to be something there for it, especially since H cheaped out and didn't even give it a "glass" faceplate
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on July 29, 2008, 02:30 PM
The four Hobbie pilots (I think that's the X-Wing pilot, right?) are just hanging out in rebel hangar scenes, the Fels are just chopped up for later use.   :D
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 29, 2008, 06:17 PM
Chew- if you "need" to get rid of a Hobbie head, let me know, as I might have a droid piece or something to trade for it!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on July 30, 2008, 12:46 AM
The only new Evolution set I've found (and bought) is the Padme one. No sign of any pilots, or corrected Boba sets for that matter.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on July 30, 2008, 01:13 AM
OK, apparently I'm not enough of a Star Wars nerd to know how to put my Evo Pilots together...   :-[

Can someone please help me with where the B-Wing pilot hoses go?  I know one end is supposed to be plugged into the chest box (duh), but does the other side go into the right-hand side of the chest box (like the white pilot in the pic) or the left-hand side on the belt (like the red pilot)? 

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-08/evopilot_q.jpg)

Both sort of look right to me... is there supposed to be a "correct" way to hook them up? ???
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 30, 2008, 01:21 AM
I think it can be either/or Jeff.

Other pilots have them hanging inside pockets, belts, etc.  I don't think either is really right or wrong.  I think the one of the right looks better though...  If that's any consolation.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on July 30, 2008, 01:57 AM
Thanks, JJ.  I guess I'll just leave them mixed up like that for variety then... :)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JediMAC on July 30, 2008, 02:21 AM
Finding them for $15 at Walmart... wow.

When I was buying a few extra Evo sets at our 24-hour WM at Midnight Madness (following the TRU binge), I noticed all the Evo sets were ringing up at $15 for me as well.  I threw the several that I bought in the car, and jammed back in to the store to buy a bunch more, and Target will now be getting all of their $20 sets back, despite my disgust for supporting the disgustingly repulsive WM franchise.

The only set at WM that wasn't $15 was the Fett set, which was the regular $20 price.  I'm sure WM will catch this error soon enough, and adjust their prices accordingly, so get 'em while they're hot!

Considering the prior Evo sets were the only items I was NEVER able to find on clearance at Target, this is a pretty good deal now in my books...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 30, 2008, 09:34 AM
Since I've bought a few of the Fel Comic Packs, I'm just swapping those helmets out.  The hoses still fit, just a bit tight.


I have one extra, but darned if I can't get the hoses in.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on July 30, 2008, 10:17 AM
On those hoses... I was trying to figure it out the other day so I referenced the most (un)helpful picture on the box, which showed one hose going from the chest box to one side of his stomach, and the other one coming out of the other side of his stomach and neatly tucked behind his leg.

It made no sense.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on July 30, 2008, 10:56 AM
Since I've bought a few of the Fel Comic Packs, I'm just swapping those helmets out.  The hoses still fit, just a bit tight.


I have one extra, but darned if I can't get the hoses in.

I ended up having to squeeze the tips of the hoses with my teeth actually, then the hoses fit.   :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 31, 2008, 12:17 AM
I got the First Pilots set today and just twisted the hosed into place.

Hope that helps....I'm not sure if they're in the right place or not.   ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 31, 2008, 12:26 AM
Still no sign of any Evolutions sets at 3 Wal-Marts within my work driving area.  My closest Target had several Rebel Pilot 1 sets for at least a few days in a row, so it's clear there never was a set 2 there.  Matter of time, I guess...
As for set 1, I love it.  I didn't realize Dorovio was a unique sculpt; she is considerably thinner and smaller than the VTSC Luke pilot (which is where I thought the sculpt came from), and the holster looks surprisingly cool and not really out of place.  Janson is a great sculpt overall, though the stance is pretty wide and he has a simple and goofy face sculpt.  An interesting note is that Snowspeeder pilots may not have the wrapped snow boots at all, like what we see Luke wear.  In the briefing scene in the hangar when Leia instructs them, they're all wearing black X-Wing boots.  As for Ten Nunb, great B-Winger sculpt, but he is super tall compared to the old POTF2 cinema scene version.  I'll be painting him red soon too.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 31, 2008, 09:53 AM
I'll be curious as to which red paint matches the best. I'll be wanting to do a red Nein Numb myself.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 31, 2008, 11:03 AM
Why not just swap with the V2 Red body when you get it, not painting involved......and no flaking. It's the same body.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on July 31, 2008, 11:14 AM
Same body... different neck posts though.  The "head ball" on Ten's white suit is bigger then the ball on Keyan's red suit. :(

It's still do-able if you use some sculpty or something to build up the red suit's neck post to fit Ten's head, but it's not just a simple head swap...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 31, 2008, 07:22 PM
An interesting note is that Snowspeeder pilots may not have the wrapped snow boots at all, like what we see Luke wear.  In the briefing scene in the hangar when Leia instructs them, they're all wearing black X-Wing boots. 

I always thought those guys were not part of Rouge Squadron so they just went to their X-wings and escorted the transports.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Siths Herald on July 31, 2008, 09:27 PM
On the Padme set, what are the head wrap and white gown that come as extra gear from?  Are they from some scene I don't remember?  The only head of the three that the head wrap fits on is the Geonosis one.  The gown looks like it is from Sentorial Leia.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 31, 2008, 10:07 PM
An interesting note is that Snowspeeder pilots may not have the wrapped snow boots at all, like what we see Luke wear.  In the briefing scene in the hangar when Leia instructs them, they're all wearing black X-Wing boots. 

I always thought those guys were not part of Rouge Squadron so they just went to their X-wings and escorted the transports.

Hmmm, I never thought of that!  Although, Hobbie's in that briefing (and Kesin Ommis too) and Luke calls to Hobbie after he's been hit...
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on August 1, 2008, 12:04 AM
On the Padme set, what are the head wrap and white gown that come as extra gear from?  Are they from some scene I don't remember?  The only head of the three that the head wrap fits on is the Geonosis one.  The gown looks like it is from Sentorial Leia.

The headwrap is definitely for Geonosis Padme.  And if you've seen some footage from Clone Wars there are some shots of Padme where she's wearing some kind of a headwrap.

As for the white gown?  My guess is that it's supposed to be the birthing gown for Padme in ROTS.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: commandernarra on August 1, 2008, 07:45 AM
I've always asumed it was the rogues at the meeting, and have always thought that the 'latecommers' to it were Wedge and Janson. We know Hobbie's there, and in an old interview with Denis Lawson he said the biggest film set he had worked on was the echo base hanger, so could be. Empire's filled with little details and the black haired pilot certainly looks like Lawson? Anyone else thought this? Its always bugged me.
About the snowspeeder pilots, the figures are great but lack accuracy with the leg straps. They should come out from under the flight jacket and not from the chestbox. Small nitpick :D
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on August 1, 2008, 08:59 AM
On the Padme set, what are the head wrap and white gown that come as extra gear from?  Are they from some scene I don't remember?  The only head of the three that the head wrap fits on is the Geonosis one.  The gown looks like it is from Sentorial Leia.

The headwrap is definitely for Geonosis Padme.  And if you've seen some footage from Clone Wars there are some shots of Padme where she's wearing some kind of a headwrap.

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/379.jpg)

Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 1, 2008, 09:36 AM

As for the white gown?  My guess is that it's supposed to be the birthing gown for Padme in ROTS.

Yes, it is. Takes a little work, but it does fit.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on August 1, 2008, 09:42 AM
I noticed that HTS appears to have the Rebel Pilots 2 set in stock right now, for those interested.  I know those haven't made it to retail around here yet anyways.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on August 7, 2008, 11:30 PM
Ok, I picked up the First version of the Rebel Evolutions set today (the one with Wes Jansen, Sullustian B-Wing pilot and the human female pilot) and the Imperial Pilots evolution set. Here are my thoughts:

AOTC/CW Clone - Same as before, except more EU. I'll put it with my 06 Clone Wars Gunship since the blues match.

ROTS Clone - Overall letdown. The legs are the same as the 05 ROTS Clone Pilot (which I don't own but I noticed it still had the 2004 copyright, lame!) and it still has the oversized crotch. Upper body is good, but the helmet is too small and to get the visor to cover the eyes you have to pull the helmet down way too far.

Biggs - The main reason for me buying the set. Lower body is rehashed from the 2004 TIE pilot, which is good but still lacks ankle articulation. Upper body is great though. I don't mind the open helmet, as it's actually to scale and reminds me of "real life" jet fighter pilot helmets. We now have a PERFECT TIE Pilot sculpt and I expect a rerelease soon with a new head and closed helmet. The winner of the set.

Imperial Overall Thoughts - LAME. Pretty much everything is a rehash, with the only new sculpts being the upper bodies of Biggs and the ROTS Pilot. Must have been pretty cheap for Hasbro to produce, but I could have easily done without it, even though I like the Biggs figure. Thumbs down, if you want it bad enough, get the Biggs off eBay and wait for the eventual rerelease of the ROTS pilot.

Female Pilot (Dorivio Bold) - Eh, she's alright, basically reuses a bunch of VTSC Pilot Luke parts. Like the Imp set her lower body is a rehash but the upper body is all new. They sculpted small boobs and smaller arms but from far away I can't tell the difference from the VTSC Luke. I also would have preferred her to have a ponytail or something. Do all pilots have to have short hair?

Wes Jansen - Awesome, we finally have a SA Hoth pilot sculpt! The height seems average too, as he's slightly taller than Bold. So pump out those repaints Hasbro! Figure is just about perfect, as they even sculpted Jansen's grin from when he harpooned the AT-AT. My only gripe is that the head looks too big but that's minor.

Ten Numb - My favorite from the Rebel pilot set, barely beating out Jansen. They can even salvage the arms/legs and use them to create a perfect non-Hoth Rebel Pilot. My one complaint is that the tubes are hard to connect and I can't tell which ones go where.

Rebel Overall Thoughts - A much better buy than the Imperial set, with the female pilot being the only dud of the set. Jansen and Numb alone are worth the $20. I can't wait to find Version 2. This set gets my full recommendation, whatever that's worth to you.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 8, 2008, 12:43 AM
I've always asumed it was the rogues at the meeting

I had another look at the film, and there's one scene where you can see the boots of the Snowspeeder pilots: right when Luke is climbing in and Dack asks him if he's feeling alright, you can see 2 rebels climbing into another Snowspeeder with black boots, not snow shoes.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on August 8, 2008, 01:25 AM
I still have yet to find the Imperial Pilot set or the Rebel Pilot set #2.

I hate distribution on Evolutions because all the repacked crap clogs the shelves up at this point while the new items are just a bitch to track down.  I've yet to find Evolutions sets as anything more than frustrating to look for.  Out here they've yet to restock them too, making this all the worse, mostly because the old repacks are still lingering (as is Padme's set here and there)...

And the kicker is these pilots sets are maybe going to be my favorite items this year.  God this is annoying.

Then again they're hardly restocking basic figures here either and I'm still without Sae Sae Tinn and the Ewok pack.   >:(
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on August 8, 2008, 02:16 AM
Yeah Jesse, you should have seen the shelf at TRU. 2 Padme sets, 2 Rebel Pilot sets, 2 Imperial sets, 2 Fett sets, maybe 20 TFU Apprentice sets. Evolutions have been sparse around here, as they always have been, but I've at least seen a steady amount of everything. What made it funny is that I haven't seen the Apprentice set since March (it was the first set to go when the sets first hit) and now here it is clogging pegs. These Evolutions sets are a funny beast.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on August 8, 2008, 02:22 AM
And I'm nothing short of frustrated...  I mean, Keyan Farlander is as important to me as a RFT...  Seriously.  He's one of my favorite EU characters, and because of **** distribution I've been assured that getting this figure that's insanely important (to me) will be a pain in my ass...  And now I'm busy from basically 4 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. every night so I can't even get to stores easily in the evenigns like I used to.

I've not felt this annoyed at finding something in a long time.  It's slightly early panic I guess, but all I know is the last 2008 sets were impossible finds, and 2005 sets were impossible finds...  And now these new sets, are just as impossible to track them all down for me.  Bah!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on August 8, 2008, 09:33 AM
The Evolution sets have always been really spotty around here too, and always seem to sell quickly.  I've been surprised that the Target endcap (which was full of the Fett and Padme sets on 7/26) is now sold down to only four sets total.  Honestly, although everything "new" and "Star Wars" seems to go quickly these past few years - the Evolutions sets and the GH Cinema Scenes are the ones that I always grab when/if I see them now, because they always seem to be the first to go.

I haven't seen the Rebel Pilots 2 or Imperial Pilots sets at retail here either, but ordered both at HTS.  I think the Rebel Pilots set is still in stock (I just got shipping notice today), if anyone else is having troubles finding these.  I'm really looking forward to the Keyan Farlander figure as well.  I have a lot of nostalgia for the red suited B-Wing pilot, because it was the first "mail away" I did as a kid, and I just thought that was so cool (and still do :P).
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 8, 2008, 09:41 AM
You're preaching to the Choir Jesse. For some reason, Hasbro always does that, put the less than stellar stuff in the first wave, and the cool stuff after.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 11, 2008, 12:39 AM
Why not just swap with the V2 Red body when you get it, not painting involved......and no flaking. It's the same body.

I forgot to add that it wasn't so much the issue with the ball joint as it was that I want multiples of the human B-Wingers but only one Ten Nunb.  So to swap bodies would mean I'm losing the more desirable of the two.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 11, 2008, 09:19 AM
Why not just swap with the V2 Red body when you get it, not painting involved......and no flaking. It's the same body.

I forgot to add that it wasn't so much the issue with the ball joint as it was that I want multiples of the human B-Wingers but only one Ten Nunb.  So to swap bodies would mean I'm losing the more desirable of the two.

Understood. I tried that very swap this weekend and the neck ball joints are different sizes o you cannot even do the head swap anyway. Guess we will have to wait for a single carded version......
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 11, 2008, 09:26 AM
I was pretty bummed to find that the ball joints were different sizes. I had planned on doing the same head swap.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 12, 2008, 09:14 AM
I'll take a better pic today of the repaint Ten Nunb and show it here (have a rushed version in the customs section).  One thing interesting to those of us looking for rebel set 2 is that the Hasbro slideshow shows a shelf date of 8/15 for that one (even though several people have already found it).  So perhaps some stores were late getting them or asked to hold them in the back for some reason.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on August 12, 2008, 03:21 PM
I received the Rebel Pilots II set from HTS today.  I think that the Keyan Farlander figure might be one of my favorites of the year.  Just something nice about seeing that red flight suit again.  Is this it for the Evolutions sets until Spring now?  I didn't think we had heard of anything else (other than the Imperial Pilots Set variants coming next year).
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on August 12, 2008, 03:36 PM
I received the Rebel Pilots II set from HTS today.  I think that the Keyan Farlander figure might be one of my favorites of the year.  Just something nice about seeing that red flight suit again.  Is this it for the Evolutions sets until Spring now?  I didn't think we had heard of anything else (other than the Imperial Pilots Set variants coming next year).

Isnt there supposed to be a c3po set aswell?

On the side note I have still yet to see rebel v2 however my sister left for Disney world today and she said she will try to find it for me there :)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 12, 2008, 04:05 PM
What was the Imperial repaint set suppose to consist of? I remember hear that and the C-3P0 too, I would think that they would have been shown/mentioned at SDCC if it was for this year.

This would make a great Q&A question!
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on August 12, 2008, 11:30 PM
As promised, here are a couple pics of Ten Nunb that I repainted.  I also used a Nein Nunb head drilled out to become a ball/socket, since in the film scenes Ten has the skullcap on also.

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/tennew1.jpg)

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1451/tennew2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on August 13, 2008, 03:09 PM
Got the Rebel Pilots 2 set yesterday. Very happy with the whole thing. Ecstatic about the Keyan Farlander figure--when I was a kid I loved my B-Wing and pilot, and gave him a whole backstory and name ("Champ") and patterned him basically after myself. So that was always a big hole in my modern stuff.

Happy with the Snowspeeder pilot too, even though his helmet doesn't fit his head right(too tight,) nor does his head fit the neck post(too loose.) Glad that the VOTC Luke head pops on easily...that should be a rehash soon down the pipeline form Hasbro.

Also really happy with the selection of weapons. Very true to the vintage era with SW, ESB< and ROTJ blasters all represented.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ben on August 23, 2008, 12:08 AM
In an odd twist, I found some Evolutions sets at an out-of-town WM, of all places. They had Rebel Pilots I, Jedi, Imperial Pilots, and the Padme set, IIRC. They were $19.96.

So I guess certain WMs are getting into the Evo game.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on August 24, 2008, 11:27 PM
WM's been in it since 7/26, they're just NOW seemingly starting to replenish them...  My WM got more of the same in (Reb set 1, and lots of repacks).  I got a 2nd Reb 1 set for army building purposes, but that's it.  Bummer...

Still not a single Reb Pilots 2, or Imp Pilot set to be found by me...   Blah.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ben on August 25, 2008, 12:51 AM
Oh. I guess the local WMs are a little behind then, since none of them have had the Evo sets until now.  :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on August 25, 2008, 01:20 AM
Oh. I guess the local WMs are a little behind then, since none of them have had the Evo sets until now.  :-\

I guess I'm in the same boat. None of the Wal-Marts around here have ever had any, nor the shelf space for them. I luckily found two fo the Rebel Pilot set #2 at Target a while back, I only ever saw the set that one time and still haven't seen the Imperial pilots.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on August 25, 2008, 02:22 AM
It's pure horse pucky too...  The Red B-Winger is probably one of the best modern figures IMO.  Bias aside, the sculpt, articulation, and paintjob are all outstanding on that one...  It's a pretty incredible figure and even surpasses Tycho Celchu which I thought was pretty damn perfect.  I've inspected the red B-Winger up close and man it just looks incredible.  Making it incredibly annoying that a lot of us can't seem to find it.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on August 25, 2008, 09:41 AM
We've been in pretty much the same boat around here as well, I haven't seen any of the Evolutions sets at our WM stores either - and I'm pretty sure they don't have the space for them even.  Its lucky if they get the starfighter vehicles or battle packs on the shelves, since that space is so crammed full of lightsabers.  Man, WM loves that role play stuff (which I guess sells like crazy, from what we've been told before).

Also, on Jesse's point, I agree.  The red B-Wing pilot is one of my favorite figures of the year as well.  I was just putting that set into a display case this weekend, and was looking the figures over again.  I'd really like to have another extra of that figure (or a few), and really hope it gets released on a basic card at some point (possibly in Legends, a la Zev Senesca?).  I just can't afford to pick up more $20 sets for basically that figure, not that I've seen it at retail anyways (I got mine via HTS).  Anyways, excellent figure.  I always have fond memories of the B-Wing figure since I remember mailing away from one as a kid.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 25, 2008, 09:50 AM
I'm confident things will change in regards to Reb set #2. There should be more on the way and as long as Evolutions is scheduled to ship though the Holiday's, everyone should be able to get as many as they want.

Hey, that might be a good Hasbro question - How long are they planning to keep evolutions on the shelves?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 25, 2008, 12:24 PM
Isn't there also supposed to be an update of the Imperial Pilots evolution set?

My guess is that we're going to see cases of Rebel Pilots #2 and a new Imperial Pilots #2 at some point in the future.

I have one of the Rebel Pilots #2 set. It's the only "launch" item I'm still looking for to have an opener of. At this point, I'm more concerned with the influx of Comic packs, exclusive battle packs and Legacy Collection Wave 3 than I am with scoring another one of those Evolution sets.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 26, 2008, 09:29 AM
I'd like to see what a second Imperial Pilots set would look like, but I think it was just a rumor.  :(
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on August 26, 2008, 09:42 AM
Imp Pilots v2 is not a rumor, it was confirmed for Spring 2009... 

Sounds like the V-Wing Pilot is coming in 2009 (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=44187#44187) in a second Imperial Pilots pack according to the latest Yak Q&A.

For those too lazy to follow the link to read the whole thing, here is the Hasbro Q&A quote:

"We did not have reference for a V-Wing pilot to do this set, but there will be a V-Wing pilot coming in Spring 2009 in a second Evolution pilots pack. Stay tuned!"
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on August 26, 2008, 09:50 AM
I've been wondering if we'll get another Imperial turned Rebel in the next Imperial Pilots set.  My own guess on that being Han Solo.  Hobbie is already on the way in his Imperial Pilot gear with the Pirate TIE.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 27, 2008, 09:57 AM
So many rumors, it's hard to keep track.  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on August 27, 2008, 03:19 PM
So many rumors, it's hard to keep track.  :P

Agreed. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Morgbug on August 27, 2008, 05:15 PM
This looks to be another weird distribution issue, kinda like wave 5 of TAC last year.  There is no shortage of pilot evo sets up here in Canada.  The $29.95 price tag and 12% tax are probably helping that, but I've been able to find all three sets in relative abundance locally.  I'm really not inclined to purchase them at that price though.  I did pick up the Imperial set just in case I can't find it on a trip to the US in September, but it is staying in the box with the receipt in case I can find a cheaper duplicate and just return this version.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on August 28, 2008, 03:52 PM
Finally got my Rebel Pilots 2 EVO set.  VERY NICE! 

"Doc" is cooler than expected.  The helmet is nicely done.  And the articulation is good.

Farlander is the star of this set for me.  I've been waiting for a red uni B-Wing pilot for a while, and this fits the bill very nicely.  Great articulation.  The harness straps are well done...I've actually been using it as a makeshift leg holster for the blaster.

Kesin Ommis comes up a little short.  The overall sculpt is good.  But the head sculpt is a little weird.  The balljoint is tight and won't swivel as well as most.  And the head is swimming inside of that helmet.  I think the Janson headsculpt was much better in this respect.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Morgbug on August 28, 2008, 03:57 PM
Doesn't anyone find the helmet a little odd on Farlander?  Or is it removeable or at least poseable to some degree?  Cuz the ones that I have seen are a little goofy looking. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on August 28, 2008, 04:01 PM
The helmet comes off...  Not sure what you mean by odd though, Brent? 

The "leather" type helmets didn't fit really well in that they sort of exposed a lot of face/forehead on the character.  Is that what you're talking about?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on August 28, 2008, 04:06 PM
Doesn't anyone find the helmet a little odd on Farlander?  Or is it removeable or at least poseable to some degree?  Cuz the ones that I have seen are a little goofy looking. 

It does look like that old-timey kind of leather football helmet. ;D  Still, I think it's very well done.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Morgbug on August 28, 2008, 04:58 PM
I just meant it kind of sits really high up on the head.  If it comes off, that means it can probably be snugged down a bit too.  I'm not too concerned about the large amount of face/head showing, just looked like putting a ball cap on top of your head and letting it sit there without pulling it down at all.  That compounded with the bit around the chin made it look like a conehead without the cone on top. 

Reading it can either come off or be snugged on is good news because that was preventing me from buying it.  Now I'm interested, so thanks for the info guys. :)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 29, 2008, 09:49 AM
I just meant it kind of sits really high up on the head.  If it comes off, that means it can probably be snugged down a bit too. 

There is some play, but certainly you can position it to give him as high a forehead as you like. If you're not happy with the helmet being the slightest bit loose, you can stick a piece of toilet paper in the helmet to make it really snug. No kidding.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 4, 2008, 04:39 AM
Jayson hooked me up with the Imperial Pilot Evolutions set recently (Thanks man!)...

After finally getting to look the figures over, it's a mixed bag...  The Episode 2 style Clone is pretty cool and a new paintjob.  I liked that figure the first time and was always glad to get more...  The "special" paintjob on this one makes it less appealing ot me than a movie deco, but still it's a good figure overall to me.

The Episode 3 style Clone is interesting...  I am disappointed Hasbro didn't cast the chest box and hoses out of a more solid plastic, but instead they painted transluscent orange just like the helmet.  It looks bad as the paint's thin and you can see the orange plastic underneath.  I'm a bit disappointed in that aspect, but the removable helmet is nice and super thin due to the style it is.  That makes it surprisingly accurate too, if not a little fragile.  The pilot maybe re-uses the lower body of the ROTS figure which lacks ankle joints, but overall this figure's very nice and the highlight of the set to me.  It's a movie Clone afterall, and one we didn't have.

Lastly, there's Biggs in Imp. Pilot uniform...  I'm disappointed in this though.  On various levels too...

First, Hasbro clearly re-used the Saga Pilot's legs for this TIE Pilot, and that was dumb.  First it's dumb because Biggs wasn't "short" and that pilot clearly is short.  Second, it's dumb because those legs are a tad awkward to pose for some reason.  It's like they're too close together or something. 

Next though, the gun is ridiculous...  Hasbro resculpted the "Imperial Pistol" for absolutely no reason.  They have a perfectly scaled version of this gun which was sculpted for Bo Shek, so why not use that?  It fits in the holster better, and shows the true size of the blaster which Hasbro just completely botched.  The new pistol is 2 or 3 times the size it should be, making it comically oversized and dumb looking in the holster.  Moreover though, why would Hasbro put the money into a new mold for a gun when one exists that's superior?  Dumb, dumb, dumb...

Likewise though, and third on the list of suck, is the open-faced helmet...  I knew I wasn't going to like this, and Hasbro was sculpting a helmet for accuracy when the comic book artists themselves admitted that the open-faced helmets were just so you could tell who was talking, and that it wasn't meant to be some new kind of helmet...  IE: basically they wanted/intended the helmets to be closed faced the whole time.  In EU, TIE Fighters do NOT have atmosphere inside them, and the suit is a necessity for pilots to survive, so I really dislike the open mask.  And beyond that the helmet is goofy big I think, as they insisted on Biggs' hair looking all nice and wavy instead of being "flat" for the helmet's sake.

The sculpt of the figure overall is nice, though those legs are a letdown, and no ankle articulation sucks as well.  The body, holster belt, and all that is great though, and the Biggs likeness is spot-on so that's cool...  I just wish those legs were a tad more normal height and a slightly broader stance on them.

Overall, $20 for 3 figures isn't horrible these days so I'm digging the set and I'll get another one of them if I can ever find one in the wild myself, but this set is by far and away not without flaws.  It's not on par with the Rebel sets by a longshot, which make smart re-use of parts overall, and resculpts where appropriate.  It's superior to the Padme set though, but only because army builders always beat Padme figures...  Then again, so do Senators, droids, aliens...  OK yeah, Padme sorta sucks.  I don't get why you guys dig Padme so much. :)  I always wind up feeling jipped by her figures.

Anyway though, yeah, I'm ok with the Imp Pilots set but Hasbro could've done miles better with it.  2008 is becoming truly the year Hasbro shows it can cut corners everywhere...  And it's becoming a glaring issue with lots of figures and things.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: iFett on September 4, 2008, 11:02 AM
Are the Imperial and Rebel Pilot #2 sets even shipping anymore?  I haven't seen either of them since 07/26.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CHEWIE on September 4, 2008, 01:12 PM
Yeah, they're shipping still, and should continue to do so.  I only saw them on 7/26 at Target, but since then Target doesn't seem to have gotten anything in except the comic packs.  Wal-Mart and TRU have been getting in the Evolutions sets in bulk, and keep restocking.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on September 4, 2008, 02:48 PM
I actually saw a couple of the Imperial Pilots set at TRU yesterday, but I've never seen the Rebel Pilots II set at retail (got one via HTS).  The others seem to sit a fair amount, although still seem to sell through eventually.  Actually, now that I think about it, I think TRU is the only store in our town that has any in stock.  WM here hasn't had them at all yet, and Target had them on an endcap, but they've long since sold through.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 4, 2008, 02:49 PM
Sad and I wish we had those same problems...  I'd like another Imp set honestly, but I don't want to trapes all over for it either. T RU's a bit of a hike for me...  Maybe tonight I'll take a trip.  I'm taking a coaching break this evening for my sanity and may decide to make a toy run, something I've not done in several months.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on September 4, 2008, 06:39 PM
You gotta love how the rarity of toys in Canada is backwards compared to the states. My local Zellers for example is filled with about 15-18 evo packs half of them being the Imp set and Reb II set. Besides those there are only 2 padmes and a couple of fetts. I have been seeing the Imp set everywhere I go (except for WM) The Reb II set is a little harder to find but all the stores I have been to have atleast one of them on the shelves.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 4, 2008, 11:02 PM
If someone were to need Padme or Fett sets, I'd gladly look for them for you...  I've seen both, but the Fett set goes down her fairly quickly, and the one with the emblem especially moves at a steady rate.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Morgbug on September 5, 2008, 03:08 PM
If someone were to need Padme or Fett sets, I'd gladly look for them for you...  I've seen both, but the Fett set goes down her fairly quickly, and the one with the emblem especially moves at a steady rate.

 :o

These things actually move quickly stateside?  All our stores carrying these are crammed with both sets.  Only the pilots move at all.  The extra $10 probably doeesn't help  ::) but they really don't move much at all. 
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on September 5, 2008, 03:27 PM
If someone were to need Padme or Fett sets, I'd gladly look for them for you...  I've seen both, but the Fett set goes down her fairly quickly, and the one with the emblem especially moves at a steady rate.

These two sets have been shelfwarmers by me.  As much love as Padme gets in the forums, the love at retail seems to be lacking.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 5, 2008, 05:06 PM
Yeah there's not a ton to be had here, though I did notice TRU had most of them.  The Fett set with emblem though, that's long gone here.

The pilots though, are non-existant unless you're at a TRU that has Imps in sparse numbers and the first Rebel set, which I've now seen several times at retail...  The Reb 2 set is impossible to find.

Padme though, around here only Target had seemingly got much in and they're gone now.  I did see some Fetts without emblems but who wants those?
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 7, 2008, 05:03 PM
Seems like places are starting to get their second wind of evolutions. I've been seeing more of the Reb Pilots 2 set.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on September 7, 2008, 06:01 PM
What stores actually are carrying Evolutions have the shelves clogged with Jedi/Force Unleashed sets, and maybe 2 Rebel I and Imperial Pilot sets. Most stores either haven't restocked (*cough*Target*cough*) or just have no room for them. I've still yet to see Rebel Pilots II or the Fett Emblem set in person.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 8, 2008, 01:08 AM
I found 2 Reb2 sets out tonight at WM and scarfed them up and ran off like a moron.

I'm so ecstatic to have this set though.  It's perfection to me. :)  Love that Farlander figure too...  Too cool.  And I'm now actually seeing Imp sets too.  I may nab another one here if there's some around to the end of the month.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 8, 2008, 09:19 AM
What stores actually are carrying Evolutions have the shelves clogged with Jedi/Force Unleashed sets,

Haven't seen the re-released force unleashed set yet, but one of my TRU's is clogged with the Jedi set.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on September 8, 2008, 09:53 AM
I am yet to see the Rebel Pilots II set, but the Imperial Pilots set is almost a shelfwarmer around here. I haven't picked it up yet because other than the ROTS guy, the set really doesn't interest me at all.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Muftak on September 8, 2008, 11:08 AM
I am yet to see the Rebel Pilots II set, but the Imperial Pilots set is almost a shelfwarmer around here. I haven't picked it up yet because other than the ROTS guy, the set really doesn't interest me at all.

Same here, except I would only be interested in the EU Biggs.

(Okay, anybody want the AOTC Pilot so we can divvy this set up?)

I have passed on the Rebel Pilots I set everytime, just because I really don't like the looks of that ugly Ten Nunb...he's way too tall, his head always seems to be painted horribly, and of course he is in the wrong color flight suit. I wouldn't mind the Dorovio Bold figure, and I actively want the Wes Janson figure, but I'm having trouble justifying the 20 bucks for one-and-a-half figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 8, 2008, 02:15 PM
I am yet to see the Rebel Pilots II set, but the Imperial Pilots set is almost a shelfwarmer around here. I haven't picked it up yet because other than the ROTS guy, the set really doesn't interest me at all.

Same here, except I would only be interested in the EU Biggs.

(Okay, anybody want the AOTC Pilot so we can divvy this set up?)

If you're serious, I'd be in for the AOTC Pilot, as it's the only figure from the set that I want another one of.  Just PM me. :)
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on September 9, 2008, 09:41 AM
Guys, please PM me if that means there's an extra ROTS Pilot up for grabs. :)

Thanks,
-David
Title: Re: 2008 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on September 27, 2008, 12:17 AM
Imp Pilots v2 is not a rumor, it was confirmed for Spring 2009... 

Sounds like the V-Wing Pilot is coming in 2009 (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=44187#44187) in a second Imperial Pilots pack according to the latest Yak Q&A.

For those too lazy to follow the link to read the whole thing, here is the Hasbro Q&A quote:

"We did not have reference for a V-Wing pilot to do this set, but there will be a V-Wing pilot coming in Spring 2009 in a second Evolution pilots pack. Stay tuned!"

Looks like the gang at Yakface was able to get an update on the Imp Pilot v2 pack (http://www.yakfaceforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=51559#51559):

"The three pilots are a "V-Wing" repaint of the Clone Wars-era pilot, a black version of the EpIII pilot, and a generic version of the TIE using the Biggs TIE body but with a new closed helmet."

Very glad to hear that we're getting a regular SA Imperial TIE pilot in this set and not another Rebel with an open-face helmet.  Not so glad to hear that we're getting another "shadow" pilot... I would have prefered seeing that sculpt with a new deco (501st, Shock, etc).
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 27, 2008, 01:25 AM
I'm kinda curious what a "Clone Wars Era V-Wing" Pilot is...
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on September 27, 2008, 01:30 AM
I'm kinda curious what a "Clone Wars Era V-Wing" Pilot is...

It's either Hasbro speak for a kitbash/repaint/EU/BS figure or it's the question answerer confusing the V-wing Pilot with the Clone Wars V-19 pilot.  ::)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on September 27, 2008, 01:39 AM
I guess this design got tossed out the window

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/a/ae/Vwing_ICS.jpg/662px-Vwing_ICS.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 27, 2008, 01:44 AM
Yeah, Nick's pic was what I was expecting, but I'm thinking this isn't going to be that nice right now.  :-\
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on September 27, 2008, 02:04 AM
Generic TIE Pilot? Crap, that's at least 2 sets for me...
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 27, 2008, 02:45 AM
Agreed on the TIE Pilot...  And honestly I'll be ok with whatever else we get, but the TIE Pilot will certainly encourage a couple purchases of this set for me as well.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 27, 2008, 09:48 AM
Generic TIE Pilot? Crap, that's at least 2 sets for me...

Might be more for me.  :P

Set sounds better that the first one though.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on September 28, 2008, 02:22 PM
Finally got to crack open the one Rebel Pilots II set I found, and I agree it's stellar!  I'm going to need 2-3 more for the B-Wingers and Hoth pilot variations.  Speaking of which, I love the fact that Ommis has some differences in paint like his boots, gloves, hoses, and vest.  There was a good bit of variation in the briefing scene outfits, and these figures reflect that!  I don't need the Twi' Lek pilot's head and helmet that I have, so if you're interested, shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on September 28, 2008, 11:45 PM
Found my first Rebel Pilots v.2 set today. The Snowspeeder Pilot's kind of a turd, but the rest of the set is fabulous. It's kinda sad though that the red B-Wing Pilot (and Rebel Honor Guard) are the best Rebel army builders in the line at this point. :-\
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 29, 2008, 09:04 AM
I think you can add A-Wing pilot to that list.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on September 30, 2008, 06:41 PM
Indeed, I forgot about that one.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 30, 2008, 07:11 PM
I think the snowspeeder pilots are excellent...  Why's everyone down on those guys?  I'll take 'em if you don't want 'em. :)  There were tons in the base, so it's one I'd definitely like more of.  I could've done without the mustache on the one guy but it adds some diversity.  They should've given us a black guy instead IMO, but whatever.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on September 30, 2008, 07:35 PM
Why's everyone down on those guys? I'll take 'em if you don't want 'em. :)

They're not terrible by any means, they just have a couple annoying problems like the wide leg stance. Also, on my mustache guy, his head pops off very easily and got stuck in the helmet when I tried to take it off. I dunno, it's a decent figure but not nearly as good as the other pilot figures in the two sets. :-\

You still can't have mine. :) I'm actually really enjoying the growing sea of orange (and red and white in smaller amounts) in my collection.

If/when I buy more Rebel Pilots sets, I will probably sell/trade my extra snowspeeder pilots and Twi'Leks.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 30, 2008, 07:56 PM
Keep me in mind if you do...  I can always use more if I've got the extra scratch for them.

I have the same head pop-off problem on Hobbie and the mustache guy both...  I've had that on several figures actually, including some Clones and the guy in black from the Mandalorian sets...  That Mando's head is so damn big his helmet doesn't fit him and it always pops his head off trying to remove it if you force it on.  Very ****** designing on Hasbro's part there.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on October 1, 2008, 07:32 PM
Uh, Jesse, don't you know that Hasbro ALWAYS designs everything perfectly? It's the Chinese laborers who screw everything up. They've said so in their Q&A's multiple times, so it has to be true! ::)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on October 2, 2008, 01:04 AM
Hmmmm...

No.  :)

Seriously though, I love removable helmets but Hasbro does make them a frustrating aspect to figures from time to time.  Fortunately it's fewer than greater, but it still is annoying.  The worst is that Mandalorian in the Black armor from the EE Mando sets...  That guy's hair is just a big pain, and I have no idea how they didn't think that would be an issue.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on October 2, 2008, 12:52 PM
I love the Hoth pilots; except for the red B-Winger, those are my favorites from the set.  There is the issue of accuracy concerning the boots: apparently, only Luke wore the strapped snow boots (probably because they were from his Tauntaun riding outfit earlier in the film).  The pilots in the Echo base briefing with Leia are wearing the standard black pilot boots, and the snowspeeder boarding scene shows pilots climbing in their speeders (back behind Luke as he's boarding his own) with black boots as well.  Otherwise, they're great!  I like the fact that some wear the skullcap and others don't, in the briefing.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darby on October 2, 2008, 01:44 PM
I love the snowspeeder pilots, too.  They're some of my favorite figures in the line.  Hopefully they crank some out on the single card, because I'd buy tons.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedipurge on October 2, 2008, 01:49 PM
PM'd you Daigo.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 27, 2008, 04:47 PM
I FINALLY found the Evolutions Rebel Pilots II pack today.  Granted, I haven't been out there searching every single day for it, but was glad to find it.

Three great figures!  I like them all.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: iFett on October 27, 2008, 06:55 PM
I FINALLY found the Evolutions Rebel Pilots II pack today.  Granted, I haven't been out there searching every single day for it, but was glad to find it.

That was one tough puppy to find.  Granted I'm seeing the set a lot more now, but I think I only saw it once during the first two months of its release.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on October 27, 2008, 07:58 PM
Yeah It's one I've been looking for a few more of but haven't had any luck finding. I've seen it once, back in July when I found two at the same store. That's been it for me so far. I did pick up another Red B-Wing pilot on the bay fro $8 including shipping and I may end up going that route for a few more. I sure hope that this figures gets an individual recard at some point in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Reid on October 27, 2008, 09:44 PM
I FINALLY found the Evolutions Rebel Pilots II pack today.  Granted, I haven't been out there searching every single day for it, but was glad to find it.

That was one tough puppy to find.  Granted I'm seeing the set a lot more now, but I think I only saw it once during the first two months of its release.

Really? It was that hard to find? I found and purchased my set at Midnight Madness.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on October 27, 2008, 09:52 PM
The Rebel Set II (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/TLC/evolutions/evo_rebelpilots2.html) was a pain in the ass to find here in MN until recently. I finally started seeing this set (along with the Imperial Pilot set) regularly at TRU, and never at Target, over the last month.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on October 27, 2008, 10:16 PM
Yep, same here. :-\
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 28, 2008, 05:15 AM
The Rebel Set II (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/TLC/evolutions/evo_rebelpilots2.html) was a pain in the ass to find here in MN until recently. I finally started seeing this set (along with the Imperial Pilot set) regularly at TRU, and never at Target, over the last month.

Yeah - same experience for me as well. On launch day I scored one of these at a Target. Never saw this set again at a Target. Never saw it at a WM, but then all of a sudden back in the beginning of September, this set started to show up in good quantities (along with the Imperial set) in TRU.

IMHO it's the best set out of the four new ones. The helmet on Cesi is fantastic how perfectly it fits and Farlander is a figure I've been wanting for quite some time.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 28, 2008, 09:20 AM
Good to hear Reb Pilots II is more readily accessible. I had the same experience as everybody else, a little tough to find at first, but now, not so much.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: knashdx on October 29, 2008, 01:38 PM
The Rebel Set II (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/TLC/evolutions/evo_rebelpilots2.html) was a pain in the ass to find here in MN until recently. I finally started seeing this set (along with the Imperial Pilot set) regularly at TRU, and never at Target, over the last month.

Granted I haven't been seraching for since I got mine, but I snagged this set on 7/26 at one of my 5 stops that day.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on November 2, 2008, 11:34 AM
Has anyone bought an extra Mandalorian set and doesn't want their Jango figure? If so, I'm interested in buying one. PM me!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on November 2, 2008, 01:24 PM
Oh my God, I totally forgot about the Rebel Pilots II set. I haven't seen any Evolutions sets since August. ???
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on December 5, 2008, 09:35 PM
From RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_64th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_119107.asp):

Good News:
Rebel Pilots #3 = John D. Brannon (Red 4, Battle of Yavin), Jake Farrell (as Green Squadron Commander, Battle of Endor), and Shira Brie (EU Pilot, ?).

Bad News:
Due to delays, this last wave of EVO packs won't be available everywhere (aka they will probably be exclusives).  :-\


I think it's cool to see Red 4/John D make the list.  If the Wedge rumors hold out for 2009 also, we'll have had new figures for Red Leader, Red 2, Red 3, Red 4, and Red 5 in the past 3 years.  Does that mean Porkin's will be next?  :D
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 5, 2008, 10:13 PM
From RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_64th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_119107.asp):

Good News:
Rebel Pilots #3 = John D. Brannon (Red 4, Battle of Yavin), Jake Farrell (as Green Squadron Commander, Battle of Endor), and Shira Brie (EU Pilot, ?).


Shira Brie actually threw me for a loop until I looked up the name on Wookieepedia.  Apparently that's Lumiya's name (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lumiya) before she fell to the Dark Side.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jeff on December 5, 2008, 10:30 PM
Huh, interesting - I had no idea who that was...  well, that's sure to upset a lot of the OT purists then.   :P
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 5, 2008, 10:35 PM
I guess Hasbro doesn't want to make all of the Snowspeeder pilots just yet.  There's really not that many that have either lines or screen time.  But John D and Jake Farrell are both cool choices. 
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 6, 2008, 10:06 AM
Cool, sounds like new sculpts too.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on December 6, 2008, 02:46 PM
Exclusive Evolution sets? Lame. Either Target gets them and charges $40 each or Wal-Mart gets them and nobody can find them. Awesome Hasbro, just awesome.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JangoTat on December 6, 2008, 04:38 PM
Exclusive Evolution sets? Lame. Either Target gets them and charges $40 each or Wal-Mart gets them and nobody can find them. Awesome Hasbro, just awesome.

hopefully TRU gets them...atleast they will have them in stock.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 6, 2008, 04:54 PM
hopefully TRU gets them...atleast they will have them in stock.

If I had to pick a retailer, I'd go with TRU as well. But it will probably be Target and start the trend that Evolution sets can be $30 each.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 6, 2008, 06:16 PM
I don't know if I read that as exclusive.  But since retailers are kind of tight with how they allocate shelf space this could be problematic.  But TRU is probably the best option.  They've got the most shelf space to spare and they're good about stocking exclusives.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on December 8, 2008, 10:02 AM
Kind of disappointing that these will be an exclusive of some sort, but getting more pilots is cool.  I don't know which retailer is best, I suppose it depends on the area.  WM has overall probably been the worst around here, some we get a good amount of - some we never see at all.  Target is usually pretty good around here, although some sell through rather quickly.  The Order 66 packs weren't a big problem to find, but things like vehicles (or these Evolution packs) tend to go a bit quicker.  TRU wouldn't be a bad choice I guess, if they can find room among the stuff from three years ago that's still there ;).
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Keonobi on December 8, 2008, 10:35 AM
I have the perfect solution.  KMart.  They never have it in stock, you can't find it mixed in with all the other toys, its more than anywhere else and to top it off, its not like they have other stuff on the shelf, so you can still be happy you got something for your trip to the store.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on December 8, 2008, 10:40 AM
I have the perfect solution.  KMart.  They never have it in stock, you can't find it mixed in with all the other toys, its more than anywhere else and to top it off, its not like they have other stuff on the shelf, so you can still be happy you got something for your trip to the store.

Plus, if you're like me, you don't have one shorter than an hour away ;).
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on December 8, 2008, 10:50 AM
Plus, if you're like me, you don't have one shorter than an hour away ;).

That close?  Lucky you.

I have no idea where the nearest K-Mart is to Dallas, but it's a long way.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on December 8, 2008, 10:53 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is one that close, although I guess I don't really know for sure.  It could be worse, I know.  Granted, I don't know that there would be any exclusive that would get me to go to K-Mart, it would have to be pretty darn spiffy.  Even then I'd be more likely to look for online help instead ;).
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JediJman on December 8, 2008, 10:55 AM
Plus, if you're like me, you don't have one shorter than an hour away ;).

That close?  Lucky you.

I have no idea where the nearest K-Mart is to Dallas, but it's a long way.

There's one in Longview and one in Killeen.   ;)

http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/StoreLocatorView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10104&langId=-1&adCell=AF&adCell=AF
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2008, 12:00 PM
K-Mart, besides the outrageous inflated prices, would be actually good for me...  They're pretty prominent in Pittsburgh yet.  I've got two within 20 minutes.  KM is actually the ONLY "normal" department store I can just "pop" into in 5 minutes with ours up on the hill.  WM is a minimum of 20-25 minutes away for me, but I have like 4 of them in different directions that are that distance away...  Target's are further, closer to a half hour or 40 minutes, and TRU's are 45 to an hour away.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on December 8, 2008, 05:50 PM
I think I would drive all the way out to Pawtuckett and leave a falming bag of poo on Hasbro's door step if these ended up a K-Mart exclsuive.

I really hope these new sets will be fairly easy to get a hold of, I have really enjoyed the pilot sets thus far. I'm looking forward to getting a few more of the Arvyl Crynyd style helmets if Green leader does in fact come with one. John D. should be nice. I always really liked his red helmet, and hopefully they go all out and it is a new SA pilot body, not just a rehash/kitbash of VOTC Luke.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on February 14, 2009, 08:18 PM
A look at (http://www.rebelscum.com/TF2009/Hasbropresentation/image63.asp) the upcoming Evo sets in the presentation slides over at RS.  Look pretty nice.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on February 14, 2009, 08:28 PM
The Rebel Pilots set is awesome. It also looks like they've given the Republic Commando knee and ankle articulation.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on February 14, 2009, 09:38 PM
Looks like I'm not looking for OTC TIE Pilots anymore.   :)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on February 14, 2009, 09:42 PM
I just hope there are enough people interested in buying extras of those two Clone Pilots... I'll be down for one or two of them, but I want at least 9 TIE Pilots.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: P-Siddy on February 14, 2009, 10:11 PM
The Rebel Pilots set is awesome.

Okay, but is there info on who they are?
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on February 14, 2009, 10:15 PM
The Rebel Pilots set is awesome.

Okay, but is there info on who they are?

From RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_64th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_119107.asp):

Good News:
Rebel Pilots #3 = John D. Brannon (Red 4, Battle of Yavin), Jake Farrell (as Green Squadron Commander, Battle of Endor), and Shira Brie (EU Pilot, ?).

Bad News:
Due to delays, this last wave of EVO packs won't be available everywhere (aka they will probably be exclusives).  :-\


I think it's cool to see Red 4/John D make the list.  If the Wedge rumors hold out for 2009 also, we'll have had new figures for Red Leader, Red 2, Red 3, Red 4, and Red 5 in the past 3 years.  Does that mean Porkin's will be next?  :D

 :)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ghost of QG on February 14, 2009, 10:29 PM
Ryan we may be able to help each other. I'm getting 10 of those Pilots packs and don't need the TIE Pilots. They are yours if you like. And I'll only charge you 1/3 of the pack cost. We'lltalk when theyco out.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on February 14, 2009, 10:34 PM
Sounds good. :)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: P-Siddy on February 14, 2009, 10:59 PM
The Rebel Pilots set is awesome.

Okay, but is there info on who they are?

From RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbros_64th_STAR_WARS_QA_The_Answers_119107.asp):

Good News:
Rebel Pilots #3 = John D. Brannon (Red 4, Battle of Yavin), Jake Farrell (as Green Squadron Commander, Battle of Endor), and Shira Brie (EU Pilot, ?).

Bad News:
Due to delays, this last wave of EVO packs won't be available everywhere (aka they will probably be exclusives).  :-\


I think it's cool to see Red 4/John D make the list.  If the Wedge rumors hold out for 2009 also, we'll have had new figures for Red Leader, Red 2, Red 3, Red 4, and Red 5 in the past 3 years.  Does that mean Porkin's will be next?  :D

 :)

Thanks for the recap, Ryan! John D! Whoohoo!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on February 14, 2009, 11:20 PM
The Evo sets look really good.  A little bit bummed that they are WM exclusives, which tend to be hit or miss around here.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on February 14, 2009, 11:34 PM
I'll probably only pick up the Rebel set. I'm on the fence about the Imperial Pilots set. The 08 set sucked but that TIE pilot is damn cool. Of course I'll probably end up breaking and getting all 3. ::)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on February 15, 2009, 12:01 AM
Ryan we may be able to help each other. I'm getting 10 of those Pilots packs and don't need the TIE Pilots. They are yours if you like. And I'll only charge you 1/3 of the pack cost. We'lltalk when theyco out.

If you get more than Ryan needs, and/or anyone else is selling TIE Pilots for 1/3rd of the set, please contact me.  I'm in the same boat as him, but I'm probably looking for about 24 of them.

Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 15, 2009, 10:17 AM
I'm in the same boat as Ryan and Rob, but I'l only picking up about 9.

Love the sets though. Too bad they're WM exclusives.

Will only get two sets of the Rebel Pilots, but might pick up 9 of each of the others. That Imperial Commando looks pretty interesting.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: knashdx on February 16, 2009, 02:21 PM
I'm in the same boat as Ryan and Rob, but I'l only picking up about 9.

Love the sets though. Too bad they're WM exclusives.

Will only get two sets of the Rebel Pilots, but might pick up 9 of each of the others. That Imperial Commando looks pretty interesting.


Thankfully I am only interseted in getting 1 of the Rebel Pilot EVO sets so my dip from the available pool of toys will be very small.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 16, 2009, 03:47 PM
I'll get a set of each of these. Decent sets and the value is there, IMO.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 16, 2009, 03:51 PM
Love the sets though. Too bad they're WM exclusives.

I know WM, exclusives are a real bitch to get. although I had zero problems with the Gunship and A-Wing.
I am down for x3 Rebels, x2 Clones and x2 Imperials. WM has some sweet exclusives this year!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on February 16, 2009, 03:59 PM
WM exclusives are really spotty here as well.  Some things (Droid Factory sets) are easy to find, and some (A-Wing) never show up - and everything in between.  As long as these are as plentiful as their droid factory packs, I'll be happy.  I'll just get one each of the Rebels and Commandos, but I'd like to get several of the TIE Pilots so I might get more of that set if possible.
Title: Evolution Packs: Commandos etc.
Post by: Theta 288 on February 16, 2009, 09:46 PM
 
 
Evo Commandos
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TF2009/Hasbropresentation/35EvoCommandos.jpg)


Evo Pilots
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TF2009/Hasbropresentation/35EvoImpPilots2.jpg)

Evo Rebel Pilots
(http://www.rebelscum.com/TF2009/Hasbropresentation/35EvoRebelPilots3.jpg)



Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Theta 288 on February 16, 2009, 10:05 PM
Oh Yeah!
My Boys!

Niner (Omega), Ordo (Null) and Imperial Commando!.... Welcome to my RC Army!!! :o

Finally a RC with articulated legs  8) but I have to check his strange Sev's like gear, dunno if its accurate, I thought it was totally like Boss. 

I like the 3 evo packs its a must.

 
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on February 16, 2009, 10:12 PM
According to Hasbro presentation info the Rep. Commando is Fi Skirata and the Phase I Clone is Alpha-17
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Theta 288 on February 16, 2009, 10:19 PM
According to Hasbro presentation info the Rep. Commando is Fi Skirata and the Phase I Clone is Alpha-17

that explain his Sev's like gear, but the Color?, I have to check the RC forum, cuz we RC fans are cofused by this, we also asked the Artist of the Art Cover for Omega Targets, he even dont know much about it wich adds the confusion.  :-\

But I think things has been clarified more now, I just dont remember.

Thanks again Jason!  ;)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Theta 288 on February 17, 2009, 04:03 AM
Ok Jayson, here was the answer by Robert, the illustrator of Omega in Targets etc.,basicly Niner was the Purple but at this point it doesn't matter if Hasbro say its Fi.  :)


Robert:

The short answer to your question is I don't know. Now I'll give you the long answer. The Commando pointing/purple blue paint scheme is Niner and that is something that Lucasfilm wanted to be clear about. When I began work on the illustrations there was confusion as to which characters would have what coloring or distinguishable marks. The understanding was that the color schemes weren't addressed at the time for specific characters so they let me paint them and printed them as is. We didn't nessiceraly say this character is this and that character is that. They just wanted Niner to be clear to the audience. Because the paint scheme issue came up with us at the time it's something that Karen Traviss, the author of the novels and short stories wanted to clear up. So in the second novel Karen specifically made mention of their new color schemes which are black. This can also be seen in the second Commando short story that I also did the illustrations for in Star Wars Insider #87 "ODDS". On the title page the Commando is Atin seen in his black scheme. So currently my belief is that black is the official color scheme of Omega Squad.

I know this didn't exactly answer your question but hopefully it gives you a little insight as to why I can't say exactly who the other characters are. If you'd like to ask any other questions on the artwork that I've done on the Republic Commando stories I would happily try to answer. Thanks and take care.

-Robert
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/f/fd/Omega_Squad-_Targets.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 17, 2009, 09:17 AM
Can one of the clone experts out there tell me the difference between the Red Clone Commando and his Order 66 counterpart?
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Theta 288 on February 17, 2009, 10:25 AM
Can one of the clone experts out there tell me the difference between the Red Clone Commando and his Order 66 counterpart?

Not sure the details that u want, but I know the diference between the two since I have the O-66 red one, and Arc's variants.

Evo Arc Alpha 17:

a) Head is a new sculp of old Jango
b) legs straps are painted red
c) dots rank on the chest
d) Kama from black arc mandalorian pack- no holdsters for pistols
e) arm comunicator unwired or unattached to pauldron
f) new radio aparatus or scanner
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Arc-order66_Evo.jpg)(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/0/05/74AlphaOnKaminoFinal.jpg/250px-74AlphaOnKaminoFinal.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on February 17, 2009, 06:36 PM
Why WalMart?  WHY?!?!?!

WalMart is The Suck when it comes to exclusives.  And Hasbro goes and gives the center of all suckdom in the retail universe one of the coolest series of multi-packs in the Hasbro Star Wars line.  I personally would have preferred TRU to have gotten the Evolutions 3-packs if they had to go the exclusive route.  TRU exclusives tend to be infinitely easier to acquire than any WalMart exclusive.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 17, 2009, 08:07 PM
Nick,

I have had luck around here with Wal-Mart exclusives.  If you have trouble when these are released, and if my luck holds, I'll help you out.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on February 17, 2009, 08:34 PM
I've eventually been able to track down most WalMart exclusives.  But I certainly appreciate the offer, so thank you Matt.

My post is more of an indictment of the inconsistency with which WalMart exclusives seem to be distributed.  I suppose that's indicative of the numerous store grades that WalMart operates, and that the larger stores wind up with more stock than some of the smaller stores.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 18, 2009, 12:35 AM
I understand the frustration, just know the offer stands.  What are friends for?
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 18, 2009, 09:22 AM
Thanks Theta. I think I got it. A couple small new parts then, but mainly a re-paint.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: knashdx on February 19, 2009, 09:05 AM
Why WalMart?  WHY?!?!?!

WalMart is The Suck when it comes to exclusives.  And Hasbro goes and gives the center of all suckdom in the retail universe one of the coolest series of multi-packs in the Hasbro Star Wars line.  I personally would have preferred TRU to have gotten the Evolutions 3-packs if they had to go the exclusive route.  TRU exclusives tend to be infinitely easier to acquire than any WalMart exclusive.



Simply because they are the largest retail chain in the world. They are also the craptacularist at screwing all collectors over because their distribution of these great items blows as bad as tornado in a Texas Trailer park.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CaptainYoda on February 19, 2009, 11:36 AM
I will definitely be picking up the Rebel Pilots set particularly for Shira Brie. Gotta support the Marvel Characters as much as possible so they keep making more. This one, and the Lumiya comic pack are awesome!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: GrandMoffNick on February 19, 2009, 11:40 AM
I will definitely be picking up the Rebel Pilots set particularly for Shira Brie. Gotta support the Marvel Characters as much as possible so they keep making more. This one, and the Lumiya comic pack are awesome!

I am so glad by the end of the year we will have both "versions" of Shira. I'm very excited about that, but certainly am not looking forward to hunting the wastelands/garbage dump that most WMs are for the EVOs.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Theta 288 on February 26, 2009, 02:11 PM
Thanks Theta. I think I got it. A couple small new parts then, but mainly a re-paint.

U welcome Darthy.

 
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on May 22, 2009, 03:41 AM
Some new images of Shira Brie from the Wal-Mart exclusive Rebel Pilot Evolutions set turned up...  Look for this hot mama before too long.  No clue where she's from, but I was told she's Lumiya before Lumiya is Lumiya...  Who knew huh? :)  Not me.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ShiraBriePilotLoose1_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ShiraBriePilotLoose2_Full.jpg)

Helmet on and off...  I could use a lot of this set I'm thinking due to the A-Wing and X-Wing pilot.  Shira's a nice figure too.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 22, 2009, 08:17 AM
She's from the 80s comics. She's one of Luke's "pals".
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 22, 2009, 05:51 PM
I wish the male pilots had the holster for their sidearms.  I think it's a cool feature.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on May 22, 2009, 06:02 PM
I agree Matt.  It'd be neat to see some of them wearing a sidearm, if for no other reason than real-world pilots tend to do the same thing.  It'd be neat if Hasbro mixed it up too, giving one maybe an ankle holster, one a hip holster, etc.  Would fans care if Wedge had one on? 

I think it makes them more exciting as a toy, to have that feature, but I also can see the "accuracy" argument against it for any film pilots... 
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 23, 2009, 11:17 AM
I feel the same exact way, would love to see holsters, but am aware of the potential controversy.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 23, 2009, 12:07 PM
I think there would be controversey no matter what.  Whatever Hasbro does with SW they're going to offend someone.

Sometimes it seems like they're trying to piss everyone off though!   :D

I just think it would be nice if not most the male pilots in my Hangar "Diorama" were either not waving their sidearms around, or have a pile of blasers in the corner!  Although the transport sled from the Yavin BP does have a decent holding area in it!

Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on June 23, 2009, 08:25 PM
JediInsider (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=11916) has some boxed and loose pics up of the WM exclusive sets coming this fall.  Looking forward to these, it is too bad this line is going by the wayside.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 24, 2009, 07:52 AM
JediInsider (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=11916) has some boxed and loose pics up of the WM exclusive sets coming this fall.  Looking forward to these, it is too bad this line is going by the wayside.

Seriously, this has been some of the best, if not the best stuff Hasbro has done.

I'm sure we'll see Tatooine Luke like 20 more times though, that'll be almost as good  ::)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 24, 2009, 11:32 AM
Cool. It's going to be an expensive month when these hit the shelves.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: iFett on June 24, 2009, 11:35 AM
Are these standard $21.99 or whatever or $29.99 since it's 2009 and everything is crazy?
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 24, 2009, 11:39 AM
I think WM has been pretty good about keep exclusive prices about the same as their non-exclusive counterparts.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Keonobi on June 24, 2009, 11:47 AM
Those look awesome. 

One thing, the contrast between the black clone pilot and tie pilot is very noticable.  Does the much wider crotch on the clone inhibit movement compared to the tie?  (Thank the owners there isn't still the out of context thread  ;))
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: David on June 24, 2009, 02:08 PM
Hopefully I can get a few of those TIE Fighter Pilots, it really looks like an outstanding figure.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on June 24, 2009, 07:59 PM
Does that guy in Singapore or whatever still sell the individual army builder figures on eBay? Because I wouldn't mind buying a few TIE Pilots from him so I can skip that set altogether.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on June 24, 2009, 09:22 PM
Hopefully I can get a few of those TIE Fighter Pilots, it really looks like an outstanding figure.

Agreed.  And I have to think that it will only be a matter of time before the new TIE Pilot figure makes it's way into either Saga Legends or whatever the basic figure line is called a year or two from now.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JediJman on June 24, 2009, 10:37 PM
These are really nice sets - all three of them.  Definitely looking forward to the Rebels the most, but it will be hard to pass on extras of all these.  That is if I can find them at Wal-Mart of course.   ::)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on June 25, 2009, 02:38 AM
Does that guy in Singapore or whatever still sell the individual army builder figures on eBay? Because I wouldn't mind buying a few TIE Pilots from him so I can skip that set altogether.

You and me both, and probably a few hundred other collectors.  I bet he'd be able to sell thousands of them.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 25, 2009, 11:28 AM
Does that guy in Singapore or whatever still sell the individual army builder figures on eBay? Because I wouldn't mind buying a few TIE Pilots from him so I can skip that set altogether.

You and me both, and probably a few hundred other collectors.  I bet he'd be able to sell thousands of them.

He's certainly not consistent about which figures from a particular set he can offer. Often it seems like he can only get one figure out of a set of three to offer.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on June 25, 2009, 03:05 PM
Nice touch on TIE Pilot having the widow's tears on the helmet from ANH.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 25, 2009, 04:18 PM
These look cool overall for repaints/refreshes. My only beef with the Tie Pilot is the crappy 2004 Legs that they are using. They have that Steven Segal bone break bend forward action. I am down with 4 sets of these although I only want x4 Tie Pilots and x2 V-Wing Pilots.

I am most excited about the pilot pack. I already have the Shire Brie figure, it has a nice head sculpt. I hope they give Red 4 his big schnoz. Is it me ore does Jake Farrell look a little too young from the actual actor?It's hard to tell from the pic.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 26, 2009, 10:49 AM
Nice touch on TIE Pilot having the widow's tears on the helmet from ANH.

Good catch, that's awesome. Makes me want to re-think how many I need. In stead of a squad of nine, perhaps only four to act as squad leaders.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Greg on June 27, 2009, 01:59 PM
If anyone is looking to army build pilots, I'm going to say avoid the sets and maybe even getting them individually via Ebay or forums. If the Ep.III Clone Pilot from the last set was any indication, I'd say that the TIE pilots will be available individually next year at the latest.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on June 28, 2009, 04:52 AM
We got some nice boxed (front and back) shots of the upcoming WM Evolutions sets, which, unfortunately, spell the end for this line...  For now anyway.

Evolutions is always one of my favorites so I'm disappointed to see it end as exclusive to someone.  The sets are always so well done. :(

Anywhoo...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WMEVoCommando4_TN.JPG)  (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WMEvoImpPilot4_TN.JPG)  (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WMEvoRebPilot4_TN.JPG)

Commandoes and Imperials and Rebels!  Oh my!

Head on out to the front page to check the images out...  There's 4 for each figure, and you can read the box back and stuff.  Yay.  :D

To be honest, I want 3 of each set, at least...  Assuming these aren't coming in at some ball-busting price like $30 or something.  I'm hoping they'll be the $20-ish price they've been most places, and look forward to getting multiple sets.

That said, if any of you guys are looking to break up sets because you want more of one over another, hit me up.  Come time, I may take the extra figures you don't want depending on what they are.  I too, of course, want a TIE Pilot army, but I don't mind extra Clones and stuff either...  I really, REALLY am wanting to build an Imp. Commando army, actually, so if any of you guys wanted red ARC Troopers or Rep Commandoes, let me know.  I'd like the Impy in that set in some abundance.

It was featured in one of the X-Wing games (for the Gamecube, not the PC ones), and was originally a West End Games RPG design, which Hasbro appears to have been faithful to.  That gives me the giddies since I always like WEG designs.  It's far superior to the SDCC one on the bike they cranked out.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 28, 2009, 11:10 AM
With all the picture breaking, it makes it seem like these are going to hit any day.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darby on June 28, 2009, 12:44 PM
These are tough, because I'd really like some from each set, but not all.  I may go the ebay route for my wants.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 28, 2009, 01:06 PM
They all look great, but I'm only going to pick up the Rebel set for my Alliance Hangar dio table.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on June 28, 2009, 05:01 PM
With all the picture breaking, it makes it seem like these are going to hit any day.

It'll be some time yet Anton.  They just showed up in Asia recently, so there's usually a gap there yet for them to arrive.  Plus exclusives sometimes are held onto for some reason or another (resets and stuff), so I think these will be on track for a little later in either the Summer or early Fall.  I forget what their Toy Fair date said they'd be released?  ???
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on June 28, 2009, 05:12 PM
I forget what their Toy Fair date said they'd be released?  ???

September (if the schedule holds)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on June 28, 2009, 05:28 PM
Thanks Jayson.  That makes sense then...  June/early July we see pics from overseas and Hasbro's images...  August they ship to US, September release.  Seem on target then.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 6, 2009, 04:15 AM
John D. Brannon, aka Red 4 from the Battle of Yavin, is chilling out on the front page...

Head on out to check him out with and without his helmet on.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoRed10Loose1_TN.jpg)

That pilot sculpt looks pretty sharp.  I'm excited to add him to the Yavin briefing set-up.  Power Team Elite made these slick folding chairs I've got some of, and the pilots look extra nifty in them gearing up for the battle.

Head on out and check him out though, he's a pretty neat looking figure IMO.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 6, 2009, 11:17 AM

That pilot sculpt looks pretty sharp. 

Absolutely. And I'm very happy with this body. I just wonder how many pilots Hasbro can get away with using it for before we're all sick of it?  :P
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 6, 2009, 12:00 PM
I'm already sick of it.

Same Body, same helmet-just a repaint. So all that is really new is the head.

Someone tell me why these are $8 each then?

They should be in battle packs or evolution style packs and be much more affordable. Like $18 for a set of three different pilots. That at least is fair seeing as how Hasbro doesn't need to put in the research and development for 90% of these rebel pilot figures.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 6, 2009, 03:11 PM
I'm digging the rebel pilot set myself, loved the first two. Shame I'll probably never see these at retail.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 7, 2009, 12:50 AM
John D. Brannon, aka Red 4 from the Battle of Yavin, is chilling out on the front page...

Head on out to check him out with and without his helmet on.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoRed10Loose1_TN.jpg)

That pilot sculpt looks pretty sharp.  I'm excited to add him to the Yavin briefing set-up.  Power Team Elite made these slick folding chairs I've got some of, and the pilots look extra nifty in them gearing up for the battle.

Head on out and check him out though, he's a pretty neat looking figure IMO.

Hell, I want to see pictures of that diorama your setting up.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 7, 2009, 11:59 AM
I'm already sick of it.

Same Body,

It's a newish kitbash. We've only had that body on Vakil so far.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 7, 2009, 12:26 PM
If they are going to keep giving us new pilot characters we've never had before It's hard to complain about it being a reused body in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: P-Siddy on July 7, 2009, 01:03 PM
If they are going to keep giving us new pilot characters we've never had before It's hard to complain about it being a reused body in my opinion.

I agree, Nick. I am all for new pilots (especially from the movies), and if they use existing sculpts for background pilots, I'm fine with that. I'm not a huge stickler for movie-correct detailed or lack of articulation figures for background characters
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 7, 2009, 08:42 PM
Thirded...

That sculpt's pretty perfect.  I'll take about a dozen more using it...  I'd take:

-Keyan Farlander...  X-wing/Y-Wing pilot uniform from the games since his "B-Wing" outfit is basically an oddity.  Slap the Farlander head on it, give us a unique helmet deco, and I'm as giddy as a pig in slop.

-Biggs Darklighter...  A normal height Biggs would be nice.  He's actually not much taller than Luke in the movie, but he's not goon height of the Dutch body.  I'd take a new Biggs.

-"Generic" Yavin Pilot...  Blue emblems, black visor, clean helmet.  Give me 24 of that figure alone!  A couple unique headsculpts, maybe different ethnicities, would be great.  They were pretty abundant getting into the ships at Yavin though, and I'd love to see a generic one done because of that sequence of the pilots jumping into the cockpits and the crews handing them their helmets.

-Any random screen accurate Yavin Pilot who isn't done...  I'm for.

-Black Guy "She's Gonna Blow" from Endor...  Let's get him!

-Rogues...  I'll take what we can get of Rogues, Wraiths, etc.

-Red suited X-Winger, Endor...  Seen briefly in the hangar, but I'd buy him.  He's got a red jumpsuit on, but sports an X-Wing helmet.  Cna't make out his chest box, so I'd take him as just an X-Winger in red instead of orange.

And so on...

I'm all about them milking the hell out of this mold.  It's perfect to me.

Same goes for Snowspeeder pilots as well.  Any from movie guys to Dash Rendar, I'd take.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on July 9, 2009, 02:33 AM
This next (hopefully not last) wave is really looking good. I'll pick up at least 5 of that Rebel set. If Hasbro keeps churning out Rebel pilots on these good bodies, I'll keep buying them too.

I noticed that Target (at least the ones around me) have started to clearance off their Evolution sets. They were marked down to $15 around here. That's a pretty good deal considering how much figures cost these days.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 9, 2009, 04:27 PM
I am looking forward to getting a few of these, I am very close to ordering a couple from Tunghori (If only he had Wedge in stock....). Making a SA Biggs may be easy if the Academy Version or Evo Bigs head fits the new Body. The Ball joint on Red & Wedge seems smaller than Squiddy so these could be a very easy mod.

As far as X-Wing Pilots go outside of Porkins/Chicks I am fine with 2 body styles like the Ewoks. Tall & Short, what else do you really need. I wish they would make X-Wings like Jedi Starfighters in 20+ repaints so all of them have a ride. I am in for x2 Wedge fighters to bulk up the fleet.

I want Grizz Frix next!!!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 9, 2009, 05:35 PM
JOT,

Let me know if you would want an extra Wedge XW without the pilot because I'm gonna have to be shopping one around so I can get the figure (all I want).  PM me and let me know!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: commandernarra on July 9, 2009, 10:09 PM
I got a few Wedges' off Tunghori, and the ball socket is very small, and completely orange, no flesh colored paint at all.  The headsculpt isn't as good as the comic pack, but passable. Helmet is nifty. I found it easier to custom Biggs, Keyan and some others on the Nrin body, by cutting down the socket aqnd adding gloves. However, I'll grab some John D's and see if it has a better socket. Corran too, when he's available.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2009, 04:09 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoImpAOTCPilot1_TN.jpg)

We got a spiffy new image of the AOTC era Clone Pilot from the Evolutions set...  The "V-Wing" Pilot, sorta.  :)

Love the helmet.  Head on out to the front page to check out the nifty shots.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Greg on July 10, 2009, 04:12 PM
The Gunship pilot is probably my favorite figure from the new set. It's nice to have a Hasbro EU clone that is actually cool looking.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 10, 2009, 04:13 PM
The helmet on that figure is awesome. I can't wait to HUNT for these at WMs.  :-\
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Keonobi on July 10, 2009, 05:17 PM
That helmet looks awesome!  The green shoulder pads look wonky, but that's just my take.  IMO it'd been cool if they carried some of the red striping down onto the figure.  I'm leaning more towards getting this one now.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on July 10, 2009, 07:35 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoImpAOTCPilot1_TN.jpg)

We got a spiffy new image of the AOTC era Clone Pilot from the Evolutions set...  The "V-Wing" Pilot, sorta.  :)

Love the helmet.  Head on out to the front page to check out the nifty shots.

Something about this pilot makes me want to take that helmet and put it on a ROTS Clone Pilot, and make that MY V-Wing pilot.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 12, 2009, 11:11 AM
I agree. That combo would have made a much better V-Wing pilot.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 13, 2009, 01:47 AM
JOT,

Let me know if you would want an extra Wedge XW without the pilot because I'm gonna have to be shopping one around so I can get the figure (all I want).  PM me and let me know!

JJ- if you sell the 2 ladders separately, I'd take them!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2009, 02:49 AM
I'll let you know.  I'd probably keep them if JOT didn't want them though.  I'm more interested in the figure though, ultimately.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 14, 2009, 03:58 PM
Though he's already been pictured a couple times, there's a couple nice new shots of Jake Farrel out that look pretty sharp, with and without his helmet.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoAWingPilot1_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoAWingPilot2_Full.jpg)

I like the figure overall but he does appear a tad younger than I imagined.  
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 15, 2009, 11:07 AM
If they were going for Dennis Quaid, the could have just reused his Gi-Joe sculpt.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 15, 2009, 11:43 AM
This Rebel pilot set looks great! I already have Shire Brie from this set and she is very nice. The only set I am not too jazzed on is the Troopers. I am going to buy it for the V-Wingers but the Commando looks horrible.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2009, 02:24 AM
Some new pictures of army builders from the upcoming Wal-Mart Evolutions sets turned up over the weekend, and I figured I'd post for everyone to check them out...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoARCTrooperLoose1_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoStormComLoose1_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoShadowClonePilotLoose1_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_EvoTIEPilotLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1248070707,70244,)
Clicky the heads to check out the story!

Personally, I'm geeked on the Imperial Storm Commando from the Evolution of the Commandos set...  The ARC Trooper Alpha is nice (they aged the headsculpt nicely), and I'm digging a super articulated Clone Commando, but that Storm Commando I've wanted done right for eons.  The Shadow Scout didn't cut it.

These were a West End Games design from many moons ago, and then was slipped into the Rogue Squadron video games on the Gamecube, actually.  This figure is VERY accurate to that design...  And if any of you don't want your Storm Commando, contact me!  I'll take it, as that's the one figure I think I truly would like a lot of...  though they're all looking great. 

Needless to say, I think I'll miss the Evolutions assortments a lot when they go away again.  I'm hopeful Wal-Mart makes these easily available to the masses, as they're really fantastic looking sets.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: commandernarra on July 20, 2009, 06:06 AM
Got A few John D's from the same seller, good to see the neck post is painted flesh, unlike the X-wing Wedge. And why is it that these minor characters (thinking back to the death star briefing set) are getting such awesome headsculpts, while the main characters, Luke, Mace etc are still so off. This is the perfect X-wing Pilot.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 20, 2009, 12:47 PM
I wasn't planning on getting the clone pilots set, but I might just have to to upgrade my V-wing pilot.  He looks awesome!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Greg on July 20, 2009, 03:03 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Matt... I dig those black clone pilots. This is the Imperial pilot set I've been waiting for, as last years set didn't cut it for me. The Commando set is cool as well, but I wish it had a generic ARC and RC instead in order to be more army builer friendly.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on July 20, 2009, 04:12 PM
I know this isn't the place, but if anyone needs extras of the Episode II style Tiger-striped Clone Pilot please let me know.  I've got 9 extras that I need to find a home for.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: EpicGon on July 21, 2009, 04:02 PM
I hope Hasbro could release the imperial storm commando in a single blister. It is a really well depicted figure.
Hasbro must present imperial evo sets based on OT, one for anh, esb, rotj or expanded universe.
Probably it will be a profitable idea for Hasbro: to launch a set based on EU imperial forces such as darktrooper, shadow stormtrooper, imperial storm commando, hoth biker scout, etc.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on July 21, 2009, 05:27 PM
What's with the grey stripes on the TIE pilots helmet? Is that supposed to be a unit designation? I had always thought that they were just light coming in from the top windows, but I looked at the screenshot closer and now they do actually look like stripes to me.

(http://tatooine.fortunecity.com/swampthing/97/tie-pilot-anh.jpg)

Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 22, 2009, 10:33 AM
What's with the grey stripes on the TIE pilots helmet? Is that supposed to be a unit designation? I had always thought that they were just light coming in from the top windows, but I looked at the screenshot closer and now they do actually look like stripes to me.


I always thought it was a light thing until I got an HDTV.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 22, 2009, 01:03 PM
If you're talking about the grey "tear" stripes coming from the pilots helmet eyes, those denote that that specific TIE pilot is an ACE pilot. Meaning at least 3 kills as a pilot.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ghost of QG on September 1, 2009, 12:27 AM
Someone from anotheR Site found these, so I guess the hunt begins....
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 1, 2009, 10:58 AM
He also said he had to do some finagling to get them to bring them out of the back and to sell them to them.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 1, 2009, 11:28 AM
Anyone know what the price is on these?
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on September 1, 2009, 11:57 AM
Anyone know what the price is on these?

Probably about $49.99 each.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 1, 2009, 12:03 PM
Anyone know what the price is on these?

Probably about $49.99 each.

Personally I'm not paying $.01 more than $27, because even that is $9 per figure and that is the absolute tipping point for me, then I'm out of this game.

I will however apply a clone cash coupon to get it down to my cutoff level if need be.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 1, 2009, 12:37 PM
I bought the Pilot pack a few months ago, the heads sculpts are really nice with a lot of detail. As I mentioned in another thread the taller x-wing body can accommodate the EVO Biggs head to make an accurate scale SA Biggs. I will post the pic tonight. I plan on picking up two sets of each but will be trading off a few.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 1, 2009, 09:58 PM
Anyone know what the price is on these?

$21.76, so they're not really any more expensive than the regular Evolutions sets have been over the last few years.  Given how the Droid Factory two packs went up to 17 bucks, I was fully expecting to pay 30 for them.   :-\
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 1, 2009, 11:24 PM
FYI -If anyone buys an extra Pilot set you can make the perfect SA X-Wing Biggs. Just get the TAC Biggs Helmet, Evo Biggs Head and Red 13 (or Wedges body). No drilling or paint needed, just a straight head pop:

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/LANDO1.jpg)

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/LANDO2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on September 2, 2009, 03:34 AM

WALMART EMPLOYEES ARE MORONS.

I feel very secure in that statement.  Why?  Because I made the late night run up to a 24 hour super center tonight.  And sure enough, there was a bunch of SW freight ready to go out.    Including the Clone Wars figure 2-packs with Thire & Rys and Yoda & Jek.  Those rang up at $12.96 each.  I also spied a few cases of the new Evolutions 3-packs.  BTW, those pack out as follows:

$24.96 each
12 pieces per case
4 of each set (Rebel Pilots, Imperial Pilots & Commandos)

But guess what?  They weren't in the store's computer system.  I had heard that had happened at some other stores.  So I actually checked the tag on the box and figured out the unit price...just in case.

So the front end manager went to check out the situation.  And she came back telling me this insane story that "Oh, these shouldn't have been put out.  They're not supposed to go out before November 11th".  I saw that one coming.  Because Hasbro is now putting a label on their cases saying "Produced after November 11th, 2008" in response to all of the toy manufacture safety regulations.  When I told her that, she didn't budge.  And neither did the other manager who came over to team up on this potentially escalating incident.

So I wound up leaving with the Clone Wars 2-packs but no Evolutions.  And I'll probably go back tomorrow to find these out on the shelves.  Because the night crew at WalMart is full of lazy morons who don't know how to look up a UPC.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 2, 2009, 10:46 AM
I picked up these today. Had the same problem Nick did, but I got them to ring me up for what I thought the price of them were (I thought they were $21.96 each, not $24.96, oh well!)

They were out on the shelves, so as far as I was concerned they were fair game, shame on WalMart for not putting them into their computer system!

Kinda makes up for the $17/set raping I got on the WM Droid Factory sets I guess...
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Paul on September 2, 2009, 03:47 PM
I guess I'll hit WM on the way home. 

Anybody with the Imperial Pilot set know if the Body of the Tie Pilot is different than the Biggs Tie Pilot body?
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: McMetal on September 2, 2009, 04:10 PM
Completely agree on the WM employees. I had a long, painful phone call with one of their drones this morning, trying to check stock using the UPC code for the Y-Wing. I had to read it 3 times and she still could never find it.

Why do I get the feeling their stockroom is like that warehouse at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, filled with fabulous treasures locked away for all eternity from the eyes of man? (Due to moronic incompetence and sloth)

Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 2, 2009, 04:36 PM
Picked these up from Wally today after a prolonged 20 minute debate as to whether they can be sold and what the price was.

Most of the cases were on a pallet but 1 was opened and placed on the shelf over a "Clone Wars Blaster $21.76" sticker, and I picked up all 3 sets for that price, $21.76 each.

They did not know what the actual price was supposed to be and nobody could figure it out.

At any rate, only opened up the Imperial pilots so far and they're cool figures.  Only complaint is that the V-Wing pilot helmet does not seat completely, the visor does not cover his eyeballs.  Slightly annoying, but not as annoying as buying these from Walmart this AM.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on September 2, 2009, 04:48 PM
Great... more wal-mart exclusives.  It takes me 25 minutes now to get to the nearest one.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 2, 2009, 07:01 PM
Anybody with the Imperial Pilot set know if the Body of the Tie Pilot is different than the Biggs Tie Pilot body?

Nope, same body; the only difference is in the coloring, as this version has a grayish bodysuit, as opposed to the total black bodysuit on Biggs.  The second belt (the one underneath the belt accessory) is also painted on the new TIE Pilot, so it looks like he has two silver belt buckles. :)

Is there anyone who has found these yet who hasn't had a major ordeal with the WM employees?  I won't go into details on my own experience trying to buy these, but long story short, it took me 30 minutes total across two trips, dealing with six different employees, a manager who refused to come out of his office to enter the UPC on either occasion, and some amazing evidence that the concept of evolution is fact, and it happened to pass over this particular Wal-Mart entirely.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 2, 2009, 10:04 PM
Anyone know what the small gray/silver accessory is that comes with the Clone Commando set?
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on September 2, 2009, 10:07 PM
Went back to the same store 12 hours later.  And the Evolutions packs were out on the shelves.  Only the imperial pilots were in the system, so it still took a while to check out.

I understand that working for WalMart has to suck.  But it's the never-ending level of either stupidity or apathy from their employees that makes me want to shop elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: iFett on September 3, 2009, 11:31 AM
I understand that working for WalMart has to suck.  But it's the never-ending level of either stupidity or apathy from their employees that makes me want to shop elsewhere.

I couldn't agree with you anymore on that.

WM sucks.  Not looking forward to trying to round up all of their exclusives.   ::)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Keonobi on September 3, 2009, 12:19 PM
Anyone know what the small gray/silver accessory is that comes with the Clone Commando set?

I think its supposed to be either a scanner or a communicator for the ARC Trooper.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 3, 2009, 02:05 PM
Now that WM's toy section is smaller it's even harder than before. I am at the point that I am actually OK with paying reasonable premium on ebay instead of the constant hunts, empty sections, stockroom idiots and the clientele. I never had too much trouble before but with the mega drought and hungry collectors it may get tricky. Seeing how quick the DF sets went make me reluctant on energy/enthusiasm to make 5 trips a week until I find what I want.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on September 3, 2009, 06:21 PM
I'm a little concerned about the WM exclusive stuff this year as well.  Our local store underwent the "revamping" of the toy section as well, and it is smaller than before now too.  The WM exclusive stuff has always been hit or miss here anyways, so I'm guessing this won't help.  Plus, it seems like WM got the best of the exclusive offerings for the most part this year - at least what I am interested in (comic packs, Dewback, AT-ST, Evolutions, etc.)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 4, 2009, 10:43 AM
I cracked all three sets open last night. Great figures, every one. I'm so happy to finally get a properly scaled and articulated Rebel pilot.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Theta 288 on September 4, 2009, 12:01 PM
I found a pallet with a box set of evos, 4 of each inside... but wasn't scanned at all, & tryed hard to convince them to sell it ( only one guy got away with it)... next morning the pallet was not to be found, cuz no room for new stuff.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 4, 2009, 10:10 PM
I posted my receipt and story in the recent purchase thread but I picked up 6 sets for $17 a pop thanks to another local collector who somehow was able to get the stock person to enter these in the system for $17.

I am tearing them open right now......
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: iFett on September 5, 2009, 05:01 PM
I got mine for $17 as well...after 5 minutes.  Price matched to the DF sets.  Would have thought it would have taken longer and thought I'd have my WM headache, but other than the wait - not bad.  $40 savings if these are in fact supposed to be $25 a whack.  No more eVo sets for me if that's going to be the norm.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: CorranHorn on September 5, 2009, 05:51 PM
So I just came back from a run trying to get these and found that at the store closest to my house some ******* had returned four EVO sets with figures swapped out. There were several employees in the aisle so I let them know and they appeared very grateful. But then when I asked if they could check to see if they had any in stock that weren't swapped returns they wouldn't do it. WTF?!?! I try to be helpful and that's the thanks I get? I bet the next time I go into that store, I'm going to find those sets back on the floor. UGH! One day I'd like to find the guy who has been returning all these swapped items over the years in this area and give him a piece of my mind.

On the plus side though I just got word that Rob hooked me up with the Rebel set I need. So big props to Rob for that, YDM!

Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on September 5, 2009, 07:17 PM
No problem.  I'm guessing that I went to the same Walmart that Michael went to because they were all $17.00 each.  

There weren't any by the SW aisle, but there were two or three shippers worth down a few aisles.  I only spotted them because I thought it would be worth the trouble to go look for droid factory stuff on the back end caps.  

I managed to get the pilots for both of us, one set of the commandos (left a bunch behind) and 7 sets of imperial pilots that I'm going to selfishly keep to myself.   :)


Are either of the two clone pilots from the films at all?  They say Gunship and V-wing pilot but do we every actually see them fly those in the prequels?
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 6, 2009, 10:37 AM

Are either of the two clone pilots from the films at all?  They say Gunship and V-wing pilot but do we every actually see them fly those in the prequels?

Nope.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 6, 2009, 01:27 PM
Holy crap I went back to pick up more Tie Pilots and all they had left was 4 Commando sets. There were 4 full pallets, pretty much sold out in a day. Maybe it was not a good idea to advertise ;)
The Tie Pilot really grew on me. Even If I pay normal retail I am very happy to have save a lot of loot. See to all the WM haters who call their employees stupid their stupidity has paid off.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on September 6, 2009, 02:22 PM
Holy crap I went back to pick up more Tie Pilots and all they had left was 4 Commando sets. There were 4 full pallets, pretty much sold out in a day. Maybe it was not a good idea to advertise ;)

I saw your post about finding them cheap but never looked into which place it was that this was happening at.  I literally only went to that wal-mart because there was a Target near by and the girlfriend and I were trying to figure out which big-box stores were most easily accessible from where we live.  I was completely surprised to find the $17.00 ones.


Are either of the two clone pilots from the films at all?  They say Gunship and V-wing pilot but do we every actually see them fly those in the prequels?

Nope.

That's disappointing.  I really like both of those figures (the commandos not so much) and was thinking about doing a dozen of each.  But if they're full blown EU I'd be breaking my rules to keep more than one each.  Looks like I might have to sell them off and just keep the TIE pilots.

Speaking of which, I've still got 9 extra Tiger striped EII-style clones from when I army-built the ROTS clone.  If anyone needs more of those.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 6, 2009, 03:02 PM
Rob, I am glad you found them and your new hunting grounds are going well. The city is crawling with collectors, the burbs is where the finds are at. It was nice to have them ring up for $17, I will use that to price match when I find more.

Also of note on my run today at that WM I spotted several repacked figures on single cards. Repacked with old figures and "droid part" (a literally ripped a part EP2 Saga C-3P0, that was the one that did not come apart mind you). Repacks were old Owen for Young Owen.Order 66 2 head, ROTS hood in place of the ESB Palps and Captain Panaka in place for Typho.

No signs of the Y-Wing anywhere just overstock of the Imperial ARC. I want that ARC I am not paying $65 for it. I will wait for clearance.LMK if any of the Chicago cats find one, if you can pick it up I would be happy to pay and hook you up.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on September 6, 2009, 07:48 PM
Rob, I am glad you found them and your new hunting grounds are going well. The city is crawling with collectors, the burbs is where the finds are at. It was nice to have them ring up for $17, I will use that to price match when I find more.

Thanks. :)

I guess I have a decision to make about all the extras now.  I still want 12 TIE Pilots, but I think I'll probably part with the gunship pilots, and maybe the v-wing pilots.  
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darby on September 6, 2009, 09:56 PM
Does anyone buying multiple sets of these want to make a deal with me?  I really only want a TIE Pilot, the X-Wing Pilot from the Rebel set, and possibly the V-Wing Pilot.  Willing to buy or trade.

PM me if any takers.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jim on September 6, 2009, 11:28 PM
For people seeking multiples of the Tie Pilots, I am sure that he will be re-released in some sort of Legends line.

If anyone has a Gunship Pilot and wants to sell please PM.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: P-Siddy on September 8, 2009, 01:12 AM
PMs sent to Darby and Jim!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on September 10, 2009, 10:38 PM
Still have yet to find these, but I have a funny story that relates to the pain you guys are dealing with in trying to buy these sets. Anyway, I was at WM earlier and snagged the Colossus and a Wolverine from the X-Men line. Colossus wasn't ringing up at the self checkout so two black female employees come over to check it out. They just tell me to scan the Wolverine twice and I was on my way. As I'm paying they stand there talking about how "it be that stupid **** toy department again" and how "jacked up the toy section be lately". I laughed. So apparently the computer issues aren't limited to the Evolutions sets.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 11, 2009, 10:35 AM
I wonder what quantity were produced? WM will almost certainly take a huge hit for not having their act together in time for these to hit the shelves.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ook on September 11, 2009, 02:49 PM
Anyone ditching a couple Ep III pilots (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/TLC/Evolutions/ImpPilots1/TLC-2161.jpg)? I could use two.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Ryan on September 17, 2009, 01:09 AM
These only hit my local Wally last week, but I think that the new $24.98 price may cause these to sit for a while. This store has had the same 10-15 sitting out for the last week, it doesn't look like they have sold any. I'll probably return two of the ones I bought too. I'd have loved for this assortment to continue, it has been one of my favorite sub-lines Hasbro has ever done, but $25 is just asking too much, especially considering some of the last few waves have been using existing parts/figures.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 17, 2009, 01:12 AM
Agreed on the price hike...

$19.99 is ideal for 3 figures, considering these didn't include the tons of gear the originals did.  I like what they've done, I think it was a good way to get some things out to retail, and I'm disappointed they're discontinuing the assortment.

Locally there's lots of these as well, at lots of stores, which makes me hope to get some on clearance.  I already got a number for $17 a pop, kinda "stocked up" at that point.  I got an extra Rebels at full price because I really think they're the best of the 3 (though if ANY of you odn't want your Imperial Commando, please contact me!  I'd love more of him!).

Alas, at least if there's less evolutions stuff, there's less cost in general to pay out to the line next year.  Evo's cost me probably $500 alone this year.  Seriously.  :-\
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on September 17, 2009, 10:43 AM
Good to hear these are showing up in good numbers at some places now.  There still hasn't been any sign of these locally, so I'm hoping they are still on the way.  I'd at least like to get the Rebel/Imperial Pilots sets, and I'm on the fence about the Commando one (although it does look nifty).  I had originally thought about getting several of the Imperial set for the TIE Fighter Pilots, but I'll probably just hope that gets re-released on a basic card down the road.  Just too pricey to army build that way otherwise.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 17, 2009, 09:18 PM
Brian,

You might want to check end caps...these were not in the SW section of my Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: iFett on September 17, 2009, 09:57 PM
You might want to check end caps...these were not in the SW section of my Wal-Mart.

Yuppers.  There were three of us last night combing every aisle last night after our meeting until we found double endcaps full of exclusives ...far ....far away from the regular stuff.  At least it was still confined to the toy area and not in the tool section or automotive.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Rob on September 18, 2009, 12:08 AM
Same here... I acutally found shippers of them on a miscellaneous toy aisle of sorts over near the electronics section.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 18, 2009, 10:00 AM
It doesn't seem like any of my WM's have restocked, but they certainly have gotten the whole price thing straightened out.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Brian on September 18, 2009, 04:18 PM
I found these at an "across town" Wal-Mart today, and picked up the Rebel and Imperial Pilot sets.  I couldn't really afford all three, and I really just want the "Storm Commando" or whatever it is called (black biker scout looking one) from the Commando set.  After pay day, I might head back to see if they are still there.  They rang up at just under $25 each.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Keonobi on September 18, 2009, 04:21 PM
Picked up the commando set last night.  Pretty cool.  Looking forward to getting the Rebel Pilot set.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: rishakra on September 19, 2009, 08:52 PM
Picked up the Imperial Pilot set in Seekonk Mass today.  Newport RI Wal-Mart hasn't had anything new for over a month!  Thought I missed them at first as the main SW section had only the Commando set but I kept looking and found the whole WM Exclusive section on an end-cap.  $24 is steep but worth it on this one.  Don't like the other sets as much as I've always thought the TIE Pilot with the stripes on the helmet was the coolest thing in SW. :)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 23, 2009, 01:54 AM
I'm surprised Hasbro goofed up with the Walmart Commando set - Alpha is a blue ARC trooper! The box art depicts him with red colors ... ok, Hasbro?  ??? I like the set, though. And you can just make up a different name for that "Alpha."
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 23, 2009, 03:15 AM
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/0/05/74AlphaOnKaminoFinal.jpg) <--- Alpha.

I think he ups in rank...  "Alpha" as a name is I believe applied to this one particular ARC, but "Alpha ARCS" are the first series...  and they have a variety of ranks I guess, if I've read things right, and this one apparantly ranks up to "Captain" eventually, after his combat days, and is tasked to train Clone Commanders.  I'm guessing his blue duds are his look for most of the war that he's active in combat, and his red is when he's promoted to Captain and kept at Kamino.

EDIT:  Reading the rest of his Wiki article actually, that seems pretty much on other than he is in one last battle before he's wounded and disappears with Assajj Ventress after the war's pretty much winding down near (I assume) Order 66...  Seems though that blue is just what they're all sporting, not just "Alpha" or "Alpha-17" as this Clone in particular is known...  at least till they rank up to Captain or perhaps squad leader (Reds are also called "Sergeant" in the CW2D cartoon, which makes me think blue covers all the non-com ranks except for Sergeant, and from Sergeant up to at least Captain you're sporting red...  No clue where the Yellow decoed ARC's from EU come into that unless they're above Captain).
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on September 23, 2009, 07:26 AM
ARC ranks (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Advanced_Recon_Commando#Rank_system)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Theta 288 on September 23, 2009, 09:31 AM
Quote
ARC sergeant: ARC Sergeants wore green-striped armor. The only known ARC sergeant was the  Null ARC Trooper A'den

Hmmm. then Hasbro need to complete the ARC's by making this guy.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on September 23, 2009, 04:32 PM
The only problem with that is with the CW 2D toons.  There was a red ARC being called "Sergeant" throughout the series, most notably in the Durge storyline.  I also don't recall seeing ARC's in green in the EU anywhere.  It's very mixed up, as most EU tends to be... 
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Theta 288 on September 24, 2009, 09:03 AM
The only problem with that is with the CW 2D toons.  There was a red ARC being called "Sergeant" throughout the series, most notably in the Durge storyline.  I also don't recall seeing ARC's in green in the EU anywhere.  It's very mixed up, as most EU tends to be...  

You are right how EU is, but am glad how SW had been extended for us all these yrs I think if it wasn't for that, SW would be a thing of the past...

I have now the idea to  paint custom one of my Arc troopers (dunno how long wait for an exclusive Null 12) & call it A'den, dough am not a fan of customs,  

But i have to search trough KT books to see if he has some unique feature in his armor etc & see if he is an easy deal.  

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    * Republic Commando: Triple Zero (First appearance) (Appears in flashback(s))
    * Odds (Indirect mention only)
    * Republic Commando: True Colors
    * Order 66: A Republic Commando Novel
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: GrandMoffNick on September 24, 2009, 09:24 AM
Yeah where would Star Wars be if all of us nerds weren't picking at all the little details.  ;)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: King_Maul on November 7, 2009, 01:31 AM
Some of the Legacy Evolutions sets showed up at the local Ross store for $10.99 each.  I saw the Jedi Legacy, Vader Secret Apprentice, Imperial Pilot 1, and Rebel Pilot 1 sets.  Picked up the Jedi Legacy set since I don't have that one.  I don't have the Fett Legacy set either but did not see that one there.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on November 7, 2009, 02:54 AM
Thanks for the tip.  Time to hit up Ross too I guess while I'm out...  Right now, stuff like this is all there is to buy locally.  ::)
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 7, 2009, 10:48 AM
Ughh. Now I'll have to hit them up.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: evilanimation on November 7, 2009, 04:19 PM
Got The Fett Legacy!! anyone need the mandalore figure or jango, I just wanted Boba. I also got the secret apprentice if someone needs it, i just grabbed them before the ebayrs come scalping.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 7, 2009, 10:55 PM
Most of the Evo. sets that were repackaged from early 2008 (Sith Legacy, Fett Legacy, Vader's Apprentice) became shelfwarmers, to my surprise. Especially the Secret Apprentice set. The one repackaged set I have not seen AT ALL, is the Jedi Legacy set. Weird, since that was a slow seller in 2008.    ???
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on December 8, 2009, 04:51 PM
The Rebel Pilot Evolutions Sets are 50% off tomorrow ($10.89 each) at TRU.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2009, 09:03 PM
I'm finding them a LOT at TJ Maxx too, for $12.99, so that's another very fine option.  Lots of variety too though the Fett ones are all gone.  Loads of all the pilot sets though that were non-exclusive.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Darby on December 8, 2009, 09:36 PM
I wouldn't mind grabbing a few of these, but tonight and tomorrow Iowa exists only as a snow dump.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 8, 2009, 11:05 PM
The Rebel Pilot Evolutions Sets are 50% off tomorrow ($10.89 each) at TRU.

Whoa!  I'll be checking that out.  Crazy custom fodder right there.  Nice tip.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on December 9, 2009, 01:27 PM
Upon visiting my local TRU at lunch the sale applies to all Evolutions sets. I scanned the TFU, Imperial Pilots, The Sith and both Rebel Sets at they all came up as 50% off.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 9, 2009, 06:03 PM
Upon visiting my local TRU at lunch the sale applies to all Evolutions sets. I scanned the TFU, Imperial Pilots, The Sith and both Rebel Sets at they all came up as 50% off.

I'm surprised the white/blue Evo sets (http://jedijaybird.home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/evosale.html) are still around! They've been long gone in my area.  :(

Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 22, 2009, 10:26 PM
I found a lone Rebel Pilots set w/ female Twi'ilek at a TJ Maxx for $10.99 - $12.99 at a nearby Ross store. I was shocked to see nothing but Evolutions sets at TJ Max, except all 10+ that were there were either the Padme Legacy or Rebel Pilots sets. I was tempted to buy another Padme Legacy set only because the AOTC version in my set has gorilla eyebrows!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jayson on December 22, 2009, 10:33 PM
You could save a couple bucks and just pick up the basic carded AOTC Padme that is shipping in the ANH wave.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 23, 2009, 09:27 PM
Wow, Rebel Pilots Evolutions is at TJ Maxx?  I'm seriously tempted!
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 23, 2009, 09:37 PM
Wow, Rebel Pilots Evolutions is at TJ Maxx?  I'm seriously tempted!

You can also try your hand at a Ross store. Ross has them for $10.99, TJ Maxx for $12.99.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Nicklab on December 23, 2009, 09:56 PM
TJ Maxx is a lot closer to me than Ross.  It would cost well more than the price difference in gas for me to go to a Ross store than a TJ Maxx.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on December 23, 2009, 10:24 PM
I've found both Reb sets at both Ross and TJ Maxx lately actually.  Also the Imp. Evolutions set #1, Fetts, Padme, and Force Unleashed.  I've been seeing those (plus AT-TE's for $50) for the better part of December so I've been steady in stocking up when I have an extra $20 or $30 to plunk down on a couple sets.

They were a pleasant surprise for that price...  the Reb sets are especially nice, and especially the one with the B-Winger in it.  It's a shame they didn't deliver the normal height X-Winger sooner in a way.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: P-Siddy on December 23, 2009, 10:42 PM
I'd seriously look into another Padme set just to display her with the robe. Wouldn't need the other 2 figures though.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 24, 2009, 01:43 AM
I'd seriously look into another Padme set just to display her with the robe.

So is that white robe that's include with the ROTS Padme her birthing gown?
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: P-Siddy on December 24, 2009, 10:10 AM
I'd seriously look into another Padme set just to display her with the robe.

So is that white robe that's include with the ROTS Padme her birthing gown?

That's my guess.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Jesse James on December 28, 2009, 02:32 AM
Wal-Mart sets on sale for 50% off is a steal, so get thee to WM on these.  I stocked up on Rebs and Imps today...  Hoping to stock up on Commandoes if I can find them.  Ironic they're the set missing right now.
Title: Re: 2008/2009 Evolutions Sets
Post by: Diddly on December 28, 2009, 02:47 AM
Yeah, I had originally been passing on those WM exclusive sets because of the price, but at half off they're a fantastic deal. I haven't seen any Commando sets either, but I might snag one if I see one. I'm definitely going to try and get another Imp Pilot set, it's a lot better than I expected it to be.