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Title: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Rune Haako on February 16, 2008, 01:59 PM
 :o

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1562/vspider2.jpg)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: David on February 16, 2008, 02:50 PM
 :o
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Post by: JangoTat on February 16, 2008, 02:52 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2008, 02:54 PM
I wonder what the scale is on that?  It's next to, I think, an AT-AP...  Hmmm...  Not sure on that one yet myself.  I'd like to hope it's to-scale but that's too tough to call on that one picture.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Rune Haako on February 16, 2008, 02:56 PM

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1562/vspider11.jpg)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: David on February 16, 2008, 02:57 PM
The sculpt and details look incredibly accurate. I'm really looking forward to this!
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: evenflow on February 16, 2008, 04:02 PM
That doesnt seem to be in the animated style, not bad.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2008, 04:06 PM
Vehicles should NOT be in the animated style...  It was something mentioned to us earlier, but it appears to be holding up pretty well that they want the vehicles to appeal to as many as possible I'd think, due to the increases in costs, and I think they're taking a bit of a risk with the figure styles and their pricing, but that's me.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Ryan on February 16, 2008, 04:19 PM
I'll be down for one of these. My AT-TE will need something to fight. I"m glad this one is fiannly getting made, I've been wanting one since AOTC first came out. This looks to be a nice pairing against the At-AP. Now we just need a decent battledroid to run along side the nice vehicles/big droids.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Nathan on February 16, 2008, 05:23 PM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/ValinKenobi/Forums/booyahdance.gif) Oh that's freaking sweet.

Looks like it's about half size, but that's understandable since a correctly scaled one would be like three feet tall.

(Click for really big screenshot)

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/b/bf/Homingspidergeonosis.jpg/180px-Homingspidergeonosis.jpg) (http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/bf/Homingspidergeonosis.jpg)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2008, 05:25 PM
I dunno Nathan, look at the comparison here...

I think it's maybe short, but overall not "underscaled".  It's hard to say beyond that...  Look how close a SBD comes to the ball portion though, and compare the ball portion to a SBD (something we can use as a point of reference).  The ball portion on the toy looks accurate...  The width of the legs looks like it too might be accurate, it's the height of the legs I find curious and maybe "off" in the scale department...

Tough to tell though of course.  A SBD comes real close to that bottom laser though from the looks of the photo you supplied...

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1562/vspider2.jpg)
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/b/bf/Homingspidergeonosis.jpg/800px-Homingspidergeonosis.jpg)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Nathan on February 16, 2008, 05:27 PM
^ Here's a midsize one that's a bit more manageable....
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/b/bf/Homingspidergeonosis.jpg/800px-Homingspidergeonosis.jpg)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2008, 05:31 PM
OK, here's something interesting...  Look at the joint connecting the legs to the ball/body...  It's compressed a bit on the toy, but expanded a bit on the film CGI shot there...  I wonder, if you can "expand" that a bit, would it look more like it's to-scale?  Very interesting...  As with everything like this, if it's not right I just don't buy it, but that one's pretty close if it isn't.  I wouldn't say it's half, it's way more than that just eyeballing it...

Very strange stuff.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Nathan on February 16, 2008, 05:39 PM
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I wouldn't say it's half, it's way more than that just eyeballing it..

(http://threads.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data//1562/vspider11.jpg)

Well, I'm using a "normal-sized" person as a yardstick against the legs. In the toy pic above, it takes about three times the length of a figure to get to the top of a leg. In the movie screenshot, it takes almost three just to get to the sliding "knee" joint, and at least one more on top of that. It definitely isn't easy to tell for sure though.

FWIW, the droid is listed at 7.32 meters which would be 24 feet. Which would be between four and five action figures tall if you reckon each one is a bit under six feet. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/ValinKenobi/Forums/nerdglasses.gif)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2008, 05:47 PM
The measurement you gave, for it to be dead-on 1:18 scale, would need to be 16 inches tall on the droid...

That pic you just posted sort of changes the angles, so yeah, eyeballing it from that angle looks way different.  Now I just don't know...

16 inches is a basic figure on top of a 12" figure or so (obviously), which doesn't look terribly tall to me, but that doesn't look 16" to me in the picture there for sure.  Hmm...  Not sure, and really still up in the air if I'm even buying.  I could save a ton this year the way things are going though, hah.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Nathan on February 16, 2008, 05:51 PM
If the size is too far off, we can just think of it as a previously-unseen variant midway between the dwarf spider droid and that big one, so it's not a big deal to me.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Darth Broem on February 16, 2008, 06:13 PM
Well regardless of the scale the thing looks cool!  I always that since AOTC.  That and the AT-TE will be nice sitting in my home :)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Ryan on February 16, 2008, 07:58 PM
 :)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/ToyFair2008/Star_Wars/Clone_Wars_Vehicles/VehiclesSpiderDroid.jpg)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Rune Haako on February 16, 2008, 08:01 PM
AWESOME, thanks Ryan! ;D
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 16, 2008, 08:36 PM
This is freakin' cool and a VERY welcome addition to my AOTC diorama. The Homing Spider droid was my most wanted CIS droid of what was left to be produced. Thanks Hasbro! I'l get 3-4 of them.

Now my next most wanted CIS droid is the Tank Droid (looks like a snail), then the Droid Gunship.

Oh and anyone notice the Padme EVOLUTIONS set in the background???

One NEW figure in that set for sure, though I can't quite see which one it is. Definitely a Geonosis dressed Padme in that set too.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Rune Haako on February 16, 2008, 08:49 PM
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Now my next most wanted CIS droid is the Tank Droid (looks like a snail), then the Droid Gunship.


Ditto! ;D
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Greg on February 17, 2008, 09:53 AM
Quite an impressive vehicle. When I first saw a picture I thought it was a movie still. I'm in for 2 of these highly detail suckers.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 17, 2008, 11:26 AM
This picture
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/0f/HSD.JPG)
(taken form the movie-a matte painting IIRC) shows a version of the Homing Spider droid that is about the same size as the AATs. So given that, the toy IS very darn near to scale.

I'm cool with the size of this. Yes it could be bigger, not the sphere part, just the legs. Who knows, maybe in 30 years we'll get a large legged Homing spider droid as we did a large winged TIE fighter, heh heh.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Darth Broem on February 17, 2008, 04:09 PM
Now is this thing in the $20 range or close to it?  I assume it is.  Just wondering.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Jesse James on February 17, 2008, 06:15 PM
I'd agree with the picture if that was the intent, however with a matte painting, the AAT could very well be substantially closer in that shot than the Spider Droids...

Don't get me wrong on that Sal, I'm really one to quickly accept the "varying sizes" on droids, so I'm not against your idea, just pointing out that the depth of the image can skew the scale by a margin.  AAT's aren't big though, so I agree that could be pretty close then.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 17, 2008, 08:21 PM
No worries Jesse. I thought of that too. To me it looks like they are just about in the same position. We'd have to ask the artist which were in front...heh heh.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 18, 2008, 09:59 AM
I'm surprised it took this long for hasbro to make this. Looks like it came out well and will be a welcome addition to my federation battle group.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Nicklab on February 18, 2008, 10:28 AM
Now is this thing in the $20 range or close to it?  I assume it is.  Just wondering.

Yes, both the Spider Droid and the V-19 are in the $20 vehicle assortment.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Rune Haako on February 18, 2008, 08:14 PM
Here's size comparisons,

(http://starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/20080215_picview/img/28.jpg)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: David on February 18, 2008, 08:34 PM
Thanks, Mr. Haako, that's a great pic!
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 19, 2008, 12:14 AM
Wow! I knew the Turbo Tank was big, but I didn't realize it was THAT BIG!

Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 19, 2008, 09:08 AM
Seriously.

Love that comparison poster, thanks.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: David on February 19, 2008, 11:28 AM
How expensive do you think a Turbo Tank would be if Hasbro released it? And hasn't it been said that Hasbro was planning on releasing it and had an unfinished sculpt? Now that the AT-TE's coming, everyone's gonna want this, just watch.  ;)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 19, 2008, 12:00 PM
I posted this on another site, but I'll paraphrase it here:

Instead of it being a toy, I contend with what I've been proposing for sometime now that it be a toy chest instead. Now with two cockpits for drivers/gunners and a detachable "crow's nest" on the top. (To make it easy to put toys in
This would fill the desire for the vehicle to a point and also have the added bonus of being useful as a storage unit for toys for kids. AND it could still have wheels to make it easy to move about with toys inside.

In this instance the rolling toy chest could be done affordable as there wouldn't be anywhere near as much tooling for this as there was for the AT-TE.

We're not talking about complete accuracy here either with the toy chest Turbo Tank. But it can be BIG. No electronics, no lights. Limited moving parts. That would help keep costs down.
The toy chest idea has some merit as it's functional as well as a "toy" to a small degree.

-Sal
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: CHEWIE on February 19, 2008, 12:48 PM
I could see them doing a Turbo Tank for around $100.00 too, if the AT-TE does well.  They'd just need to keep the size of it down to make it comparable to the AT-TE.  Anything much bigger than that would just be too big for most people to even find room for (or afford).
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 22, 2008, 12:28 PM
Wow! I knew the Turbo Tank was big, but I didn't realize it was THAT BIG!

Holy Crap that is big, like Death Star Big. I never knew the Sandcrawlers were suppose to be bigger than an AT-AT. I guess it makes sense since they are entire villages of Jawas in there.

Rune, great pic!
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Jesse James on February 22, 2008, 03:24 PM
That picture's not entirely accurate...  It's going off measurements listed that are completely wrong for some of the vehicle's heights.  I can tell just to look at the AT-ST/AT-AT that the AT-AT is wrong, and is going by the inaccurate 15 meter height, where the films show it to be at least 20 meters, a pretty substantial difference.  I believe the Incredible Cross Sections lists the AT-AT at its appropriate height (like 22.4m).

Not sure on the Juggernaught...  Depending on what source you go by, it varies.  The AT-AT and Juggernaught would be pretty close in height (sans crow's nest on the Jug) I believe though.

Look at the AT-ST and AT-AT, then imagine the scene with the AT-ST in ESB, and imagine how small that was compared to the legs of an AT-AT.  That picture doesn't jive unfortunately.

The Sandcrawler is pretty huge though, and actually would come comparably close to the size of an AT-AT...  I've seen scale models of both (same scale) done and they're quite similar in height, but not width.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: speedermike on February 24, 2008, 08:26 PM
I agree Jesse, and the Fedaration Tank Droid looks way to big.  In ROTS, the battle drioids were riding on it, and were almost as tall as it.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Jesse James on February 25, 2008, 01:24 AM
Exactly Mike, I hadn't even looked at that closely...  WAY too big.  Hell, two Wookiee's are on the "drive wheel" portion in the center planting the bomb, and they practically take up 3/4 of the wheel's overall size, and Wookiee's are big, but not that big...  That chart's all over the place and pretty off in general.  The tank droid's pretty small overall, so yeah, that's just not a good gauge.

I think there's a couple types of juggernaughts listed (not sure why, probably covering up the "Juggernaught/Turbo Tank" screw-up in naming), but regardless, there's other vehicles there that just aren't right regardless of what texts say.  Film examination shows AT-AT's were intended to be a LOT bigger, and that even carried over between films so it was pretty intentional.

Snail/Tank Droid must have a big brother if that thing is "accurate", haha.
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Rune Haako on June 16, 2008, 01:42 AM
Who found it? :o

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08CW_HomingSpiderScale_Full.jpg)
Title: Re: Homing Spider Droid!
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 16, 2008, 09:03 AM
Probably some Canadian.  :P   ;D

Anyway, very impressive. We're certainly getting our money's worth.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 16, 2008, 10:26 AM
That's a great shot.

This is pretty close to scale. I had planned on getting 4 before seeing this. Now that is confirmed!

Good job Hasbro!
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: David on June 16, 2008, 05:22 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: nheimbigner on July 7, 2008, 01:31 PM
cool these things are out already! :) :D 8)
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Rune Haako on July 9, 2008, 07:29 PM
It has a cockpit.

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j297/conradmerz/DSCN3434.jpg)
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: JangoTat on July 9, 2008, 08:49 PM
I always thought this thing was a droid in itself with no need of a pilot ???
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Greg on July 9, 2008, 08:54 PM
I think the no pilot/all droid is the way it is in the movie. The sphere kinda lends itself to a cockpit and also adds more play value. I know I prefer the figure interaction with vehicles, especially when overall accuracy is not sacrificed.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 10, 2008, 09:18 AM
Interesting. Smart on Hasbro's part, but yeah, it's really a droid in and of itself.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Jeff on July 10, 2008, 09:40 AM
Yeah, up to this point it was a droid, but who knows how it will be used/shown in the animation?

Perhaps at some point in the animation someone takes one for a ride (like Chewie & the AT-ST in Jedi) and that's why Hasbro put the cockpit in there?
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 10, 2008, 09:50 AM
Even if there is no cockpit in the series, I hope this isn't one of those detail people get all up in arms about. One can elect to just never open the cockpit.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: evenflow on July 10, 2008, 11:06 AM
This sounds really stupid but as a droid i wanted it, as a vehicle i can now pass. Why it makes a difference i dont know but it saves me some money.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2008, 02:41 PM
The cockpit thing is pretty dumb, as I'm pretty sure every established source cites it as not being a piloted "vehicle" but instead simply a droid in and of itself.  The concept sounds completely Hasbro to me, and I'll be annoyed only if it's something the animation tries to pass off.  I hate when EU screws with established EU just because the a-holes can.

It's nothing major on the toy though as it can just be left shut.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: smartsoccerbb on July 10, 2008, 11:56 PM
Yeah, I thought the Spider Droid was just a droid, like the Crab Droid. I'll just ignore the cockpit.
I'm just gonna get one of these, even though they look awesome!
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 11, 2008, 11:09 AM
I don't think it's dumb to include a cockpit.

While I won't be using it myself, look at it this way:
It adds play value which means more sales for Hasbro
It follows the Battlefront Homing Spider droid in that you could get into one of those
The hinge doesn't imped upon the toy should you choose not to utilize it as such

So really, it's kind of moot to complain about it, IMO.

Hasbro did a great job with this toy. It's a little smale for scale, but I'm satisfied with it so far. I can't wait to get my hands on at least two of them, possibly four.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: CHEWIE on July 11, 2008, 11:32 AM
Sal, I don't see why anyone would complain either.  I was able to get one a couple days back at Wal-Mart, and to be honest, it might be my favorite prequel vehicle that I have to this point (soon to be surpassed by the upcoming AT-TE of course) -

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/070908spider1.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/070908spider2.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/070908spider4.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/070908spider3.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/070908spider5.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/070908spider6.jpg)

It's not like this is some sort of action feature that ruins the toy or takes anything away from the appearance...
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Nicklab on July 11, 2008, 12:58 PM
Weird.  But I think it does give it some more play value.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: smartsoccerbb on July 11, 2008, 01:46 PM
I wasn't complaining. I just thought it was a droid itself...
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Jesse James on July 11, 2008, 02:52 PM
It's nothing major on the toy though as it can just be left shut.

Here I'll quote myself so people's panties can become unwadded.  ;)

It's not major on the toy...  It's if it's an EU change, then that is dumb. 

See how that's not complaining about the toy?  Anyone?

No?

OK nevermind.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: CHEWIE on July 11, 2008, 04:19 PM
It's nothing major on the toy though as it can just be left shut.

Here I'll quote myself so people's panties can become unwadded.  ;)

It's not major on the toy...  It's if it's an EU change, then that is dumb. 

See how that's not complaining about the toy?  Anyone?

No?

OK nevermind.

I didn't see anyone pointing a finger at you...?
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 18, 2008, 09:08 AM
Got to open one last night. Very cool toy. What's interesting to note is that the cardboard innards are designed for a 30AV style box with the angled corner. Intended for 30AV or was the original packaging design similar to 30AV?
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Jesse James on July 18, 2008, 01:23 PM
I didn't see anyone pointing a finger at you...?

I guess since Evenflow and I were the only two to actually make the gripe, it just made sense that we were the ones getting replied to.   Especially since "dumb" seemed to get singled out..                                                     
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: CHEWIE on July 18, 2008, 03:04 PM
I go agree that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for what is essentially a droid to open up and have a cockpit.  It's just for play value of course, kind of like how you can get "inside" one in Battlefront 2. 

One thing though that does interest me in the cockpit is I think that might bring about some customizing potential... kind of like that "pod" or whatever the hell it is on Mos Eisley.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys/shespacantinayerba.jpg)

...God, Stephen Hayford's older work is still amazing. 

BTW, I saw another of the Spider Droid today at Target with the other vehicles, but two employees were in the process of frantically taking them and a whole bunch of Legacy figures off the shelf... but, they left the Galactic Hero stuff out, as well as the Commander Fox kid costume... ::)
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: smartsoccerbb on July 31, 2008, 01:21 AM
I want one to be crushed by my AT-TE
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Rune Haako on August 5, 2008, 02:55 PM

(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2861/droidspa2.jpg)
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Rob on September 7, 2008, 12:22 PM
It's been a while since I watched it, does this thing make any significant appearance in Episode III?

I see that it was in Feluccia in the photo back a few pages... Is it in the other battles?
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Greg on September 7, 2008, 04:24 PM
I think it was only in Felucia. Several video games have it on Kashyyyk, so it might've been there as well. I think this monster would fit nicely in a Kashyyyk or Mygeeto diorama, even if it wasn't present in those places in the film.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Jesse James on September 8, 2008, 01:05 AM
Yeah I've never really remembered it anywhere in ROTS in particular, but I'd think it would've fit in anywhere if you don't care for accuracy issues...  It's a really outstanding behemoth as Rune's photo above shows.  It's really impressive.  If anyone were actually interested in making it taller (I think it's actually pretty good as the actual height of them is in some debate), extending it with styrene rods would be SIMPLE.  A little paint matching would be the only major issue to combat.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Keonobi on September 17, 2008, 12:43 PM
Was at the WM near my house last night and they had made a little display under a protective cover with a bunch of star wars toys, never seen that type of thing at a Walmart, Target does it a lot with LEGOs.  Anyway, there was a Chewie and a Vader Mighty Mugg, a couple of the Clone Wars figures and some of the Legacy figures as well (posed at odd angles, i think Han broke both knees, Grevious' body turned at a right angle to the right) and a Clone Trooper was driving the center piece, the Homing Spider Droid.   ???

Not that I expected the old ladys who work at WalMart to be up on star wars, just figured there would be a picture telling them how to set the display up...
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: jedi_master_sal on September 18, 2008, 11:59 AM
This and other $20 vehicles have been marked down to $18.64 at my area's local TRUs. Might be as well with yours. Good time to buy these, before the Christmas shoppers get to them.
Title: Re: CW Homing Spider Droid
Post by: Keonobi on September 19, 2008, 01:09 PM
Was at a different WM near my house and they must've had the companion display to the one I saw earlier this week.  This time they did a better job posing the figures, except they had a Seperatist droid manning the gun on an AT-AP.  My Wife didn't think it was as funny as I did, I guess she thinks most people wouldn't notice that..... Pshhh. ;D