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Title: Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: Brian on May 16, 2008, 11:19 AM
While re-arranging shelf set ups this week, I was looking closer at the beasts (the OT ones in particular I guess).  They pretty much have been the same since the POTF2 releases (aside from the SAGA Ultra Wampa), with some changes in paint.  Now there is a rumor of the "Battle Rancor" getting re-done as a ROTJ Rancor later in the year, which would be cool.  Are there any other beasts (Taun Taun, Dewback) that you think need to be re-sculpted, or maybe just newer paint apps?  I know they aren't maybe the most popular segment of the line, but I've always kind of liked the creatures - and wouldn't mind seeing them come back here and there.  I saw the TRU Hoth pack this week, and that's nice, but I just couldn't spend $25 just to get an extra Taun Taun.  Not a bad pack for new collectors and/or kids though.
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Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 16, 2008, 11:41 AM
Admittedly, Brian, I don't think much about beast resculpts.  If anything, I'd like a dewback with the old dinosaur legs before it was given the lizard feet from the special editions.  Ditto that on the Wampa being styled like the original rather than the SE version.  I don't see much wrong with the Bantha (it could potentially be a little "fuller" and not so narrow, especially the horns) and I'd like to see the battle rancor unpainted and compared to the POTF2 version to decide whether it's needed in my collection.  I guess the short answer is there would have to be significant improvements like stellar articulation.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: Brian on May 16, 2008, 11:57 AM
That's a good point Daigo-Bah.  I don't think the sculpts that are out there now are necessarily sub-par, but I guess what caught my eye was looking at the POTF2 Dewback - and, while nice - I thought "I bet they could make or paint this better now".  Nothing specifically wrong with it, but just seeing what is done with the figures these days, I bet there is more potential for the creatures too.  I've always been a big fan of the Taun Taun in particular, and I can't decide if it needs a resculpt or I'd just like to see it at retail again.  I guess the line isn't like the vintage or POTF2 days, where you could get a Taun Taun on its own - or a Taun Taun and Han/Luke two pack :P.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: CHEWIE on May 16, 2008, 01:15 PM
I think the new Rancor we're seeing shows just how great Hasbro can make beasts these days if they want to... so yeah, I'd be up for some new ones.  I think that Star Wars has continued to grow with a younger audience the past several years and the time is ripe for Hasbro to tap back into the beast market with some new sculpts.

I'd like to see a few resculpts, and a few new creatures too.

The Phantom Menace

Eopie - Heck, why not just make a new one with articulated knees?  Give us the Evolutions Qui Gon with it and a new poncho.

Kaadu - Give me a new one with a SA Gungan Warrior, and I'll buy several.



Attack of the Clones

Orray - Or whatever it's called... the alligator things that Geonosians ride.  I want a few of those, like yesterday.. with a Geonosian rider of course.  Or even a cart to pull Anakin in.

Airwha - This is such a cool creature, throw a Kamino rider on it and it would look awesome.


Revenge of the Sith

Mustafar Flea Creature - I'm too tired to look up the name, but those things you briefly see on Mustafar.

Felucia Slug - Not sure of the name of this either, but I want one.  Or two.  With a clone rider.


A New Hope

Dewback - This is just a given... plus we need a Sandtrooper who can actually ride on one.

Ronto - Yeah, I want a new one that's in the $30 or so range that's closer to scale, throw in a Jawa and a Ronto handler.  Very cool.


The Empire Strikes Back

Taun Taun - It's time for a new one... give me three variants - one with Luke, one with Han and one with a Rebel Trooper.

Wampa - I still don't feel like this creature has been done justice yet.  So, how about a new one, but instead of packing it with Luke, how about a Taun Taun carcass.



Return of the Jedi

We're getting TFU Rancor repainted for this, right?  If so, all I really care about is some sort of Sarlacc Pit... hmmm...


Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: evenflow on May 16, 2008, 01:17 PM
I am down with all of those but would add Jabba the Hutt to the ROTJ list. If there is a creature assortment, it would help his chances i assume.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: David on May 16, 2008, 01:33 PM
I want a Shaak. :D
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Post by: Master_Phruby on May 16, 2008, 02:10 PM
I want to see one of these re-released.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/episodeI/EP1fambaaloose-m.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: CHEWIE on May 16, 2008, 02:30 PM
I am down with all of those but would add Jabba the Hutt to the ROTJ list. If there is a creature assortment, it would help his chances i assume.

I can't believe I forgot Jabba...  :-X

I'd actually like to see Gardulla too, and while we're at it, a new TPM Jabba, a Clone Wars Jabba (non animated...) and a new ANH one. 

Mighty Jabba's Bitchin' on the Dais!   :)
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Post by: Nicklab on May 16, 2008, 09:40 PM
I think a re-do on the Eopie, Nexu, Dewback, and Tauntaun might be cool.  At least better articulated versions.  Hasbro was able to articulate the Kybuck to a degree.  But the pessimist in me doesn't hold out hope for this to happen.

The trouble I see with the beast packs is that the only real vehicle for them at this point is the Battle Pack format.  There's currently a Battle Pack out with a Tauntaun, and sure enough it's the old POTF2 sculpt.  I could see a potentially interesting pack with Han Solo, Luke, spirit Obi-Wan and a Tauntaun.  But would it be cost-effective for Hasbro to resculpt a Tauntaun for this?  It seems to go against their current mindset.

What kind of Battle Pack would an Eopie fit in with?  It doesn't seem like a potentially exciting scene.  What would we get?  The Towing the Pod Racer battle pack?  How about the Farting Eopie at the Pod Race battle pack?  Or better yet the Qui-Gon riding to the Queen's ship & talking to Obi-Wan battle pack?  I certainly couldn't see Hasbro revisiting Obi-Wan bringing Luke to the Lars Homestead YET AGAIN in such a small space of time.

The Dewback might have a better shot at making it into a more interesting/sellable scene.  There's the search for the droids along with the Sandtroopers in Mos Eisley.

I think that a new Nexu could be a serious possibility.  It seems small enough that *MAYBE* it can fit on a Basic Figure card.  And I think it might benefit reasonably well from some increased articulation.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: David on May 17, 2008, 10:07 AM
What kind of Battle Pack would an Eopie fit in with?  It doesn't seem like a potentially exciting scene.  What would we get?  The Towing the Pod Racer battle pack?  How about the Farting Eopie at the Pod Race battle pack?  Or better yet the Qui-Gon riding to the Queen's ship & talking to Obi-Wan battle pack?  I certainly couldn't see Hasbro revisiting Obi-Wan bringing Luke to the Lars Homestead YET AGAIN in such a small space of time.

I could see them doing something like this, even though the Eopie wasn't in this scene:

"Qui-Gon in Trouble"
Evolutions Qui-Gon Jinn w/Poncho
Evolutions Darth Maul w/Cloak and Single-Bladed Lightsaber
Eopie
Anakin Skywalker (new?)
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 17, 2008, 10:16 AM
Great topic.

I Donno. I've always thought the beasts were done reasonably well from the very start of POTF2.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: CHEWIE on May 17, 2008, 02:21 PM
What kind of Battle Pack would an Eopie fit in with?  It doesn't seem like a potentially exciting scene.  What would we get?  The Towing the Pod Racer battle pack?  How about the Farting Eopie at the Pod Race battle pack?  Or better yet the Qui-Gon riding to the Queen's ship & talking to Obi-Wan battle pack?  I certainly couldn't see Hasbro revisiting Obi-Wan bringing Luke to the Lars Homestead YET AGAIN in such a small space of time.

I could see them doing something like this, even though the Eopie wasn't in this scene:

"Qui-Gon in Trouble"
Evolutions Qui-Gon Jinn w/Poncho
Evolutions Darth Maul w/Cloak and Single-Bladed Lightsaber
Eopie
Anakin Skywalker (new?)


Very creative idea there to throw an Eopie back into the mix.  I like it.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: David on May 17, 2008, 08:30 PM
I want to see one of these re-released.

(http://www.rebelscum.com/episodeI/EP1fambaaloose-m.jpg)

That's one I'd really like to see re-released, too. Maybe in a 'Battle of Naboo' UBP with a couple of Gungans, a couple of Kaadus (re-released from the OTC multipack), a couple of droidekas, and one of those big head things. I'd buy at least three if they did something like that. :)
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: Nicklab on May 17, 2008, 09:32 PM
What kind of Battle Pack would an Eopie fit in with?  It doesn't seem like a potentially exciting scene.  What would we get?  The Towing the Pod Racer battle pack?  How about the Farting Eopie at the Pod Race battle pack?  Or better yet the Qui-Gon riding to the Queen's ship & talking to Obi-Wan battle pack?  I certainly couldn't see Hasbro revisiting Obi-Wan bringing Luke to the Lars Homestead YET AGAIN in such a small space of time.

I could see them doing something like this, even though the Eopie wasn't in this scene:

"Qui-Gon in Trouble"
Evolutions Qui-Gon Jinn w/Poncho
Evolutions Darth Maul w/Cloak and Single-Bladed Lightsaber
Eopie
Anakin Skywalker (new?)


That might be interesting.  Throw in a new version of Maul's Bloodfin speeder and this could be a cool set.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: Ben on May 18, 2008, 01:27 AM
I'd buy a rereleased Eopie, Fambaa, or Boga.
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Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 18, 2008, 09:09 AM
As nice as the Faamba is, mine's left legs (front and back) are shorter than the right legs, and he leans in that direction unless something is put under his feet to balance him.  It's probably just mine, though.  I can't see buying another one unless they switch the "accessory" on top to be the shield projector rather than the drum, though.

I'd really like to see an updated Dewback.  I like the POTF2 version, but it'd be great to see a totally new version with a Sandtrooper that can sit on it.  Make it a Battle Pack, throw in a couple of Sandtroopers and the Escape Pod from the 2004 Ultra Threepio, give the Sandtroopers a couple of those levitating probe droids from the SE, and call it a day.

Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: David on May 18, 2008, 11:24 AM
How could I have forgotten about Boga? I NEVER found Boga at retail. That's one I definitely think needs to be re-released.
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Post by: Reid on May 18, 2008, 11:58 AM
How could I have forgotten about Boga? I NEVER found Boga at retail.

Are you kidding me? That thing stunk up the pegs for months.
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Post by: CHEWIE on May 18, 2008, 04:09 PM
As nice as the Faamba is, mine's left legs (front and back) are shorter than the right legs, and he leans in that direction unless something is put under his feet to balance him.  It's probably just mine, though. 

Both of mine did that too...
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: Darth Broem on May 18, 2008, 11:10 PM
They still have not made a really good modern Jabba the Hutt.  Maybe after seeing him again in the upcoming Clone Wars series/movie there will be enough interest in the character that maybe, just maybe, Hasbro will go all out and make a nice version from ROTJ finally.  I doubt it but maybe? 
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: Ben on May 19, 2008, 01:40 AM
How could I have forgotten about Boga? I NEVER found Boga at retail.

Are you kidding me? That thing stunk up the pegs for months.

I remember seeing them up until about June 2005. I never did get one, and the few on ebay now tend to go for $30-40. It's the only item I didn't get from the $15 line, figuring it would be around for a while. It wasn't.  :(

I'd rather see them do a new, bigger one with a better Obi-Wan pack-in, but I doubt that would happen and new tooling dollars are better spent on something like a new Dewback.
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Post by: JediJman on May 19, 2008, 08:01 AM
I'm pretty happy with previous releases of all of these.  I'd much rather see mini connectible playsets than any new beasts/creatures.
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Post by: Rob on May 20, 2008, 01:45 AM
I wouldn't mind it if they made an Acklay that could actually stand up.
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Post by: Jesse James on May 20, 2008, 01:50 AM
I wouldn't mind that myself...  If they redid anything, I'd want more articulation for certain, and things like removable saddles...  I'm content with the Taun-Tauns and such, but the Reek, Nexu...  They could use more articulation if they ever got remade.  Honestly though, I'm pretty content with all the beasts we have as they are.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: CHEWIE on May 20, 2008, 11:31 AM
They still have not made a really good modern Jabba the Hutt.  Maybe after seeing him again in the upcoming Clone Wars series/movie there will be enough interest in the character that maybe, just maybe, Hasbro will go all out and make a nice version from ROTJ finally.  I doubt it but maybe? 

I'd be game for that.
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Post by: Nicklab on May 20, 2008, 11:37 AM
Considering Jabba's role in the Clone Wars movie, I think we're most likely to see an animated version first.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: Dan on May 20, 2008, 09:50 PM
I think the dewback could use some more love. The POTF2 version is a letdown in my book- the color is too purple, his head is too low to the ground, and you can't touch it without collapsing the front leg out from under it.
If they show up in the clone wars, a cartoony version might be ok- that would be a little more like the vintage one probably.
But if they don't make a new one, that's ok too- I like the vintage ones with my kubrick sandtroopers
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Post by: bocrebjedi on May 21, 2008, 02:20 PM
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As nice as the Faamba is, mine's left legs (front and back) are shorter than the right legs, and he leans in that direction unless something is put under his feet to balance him.  It's probably just mine, though.

One of mine does the same.  I have some others that stand straight on their own.
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Post by: ctonra on May 21, 2008, 02:41 PM
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As nice as the Faamba is, mine's left legs (front and back) are shorter than the right legs, and he leans in that direction unless something is put under his feet to balance him.  It's probably just mine, though.

One of mine does the same.  I have some others that stand straight on their own.
No I have two that are like that as well,
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Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 24, 2008, 12:33 PM
There was a Q and A at RS asking for a new articulated Tauntaun based on the success of the Indy w/horse.  Hasbro responded with interest and added this:

We will confirm there are some other beasts we are looking at updating first..so if we get to an SA Tauntaun, it may be a little while.  
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Post by: David on May 24, 2008, 03:20 PM
We will confirm there are some other beasts we are looking at updating first.

That's good to hear. They probably mean the Rancor repaint but hey, it's a start. :)
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Post by: CHEWIE on May 24, 2008, 06:07 PM
Cool... other beasts that they want to update first?  I wonder what they could be?  I'd say the Dewback is a good possibilty... maybe Jabba too?
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Post by: evenflow on May 24, 2008, 06:32 PM
They of course mean the rancor, but i could also see them meaning a dewback too.
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Post by: Darth_Anton on May 25, 2008, 09:38 AM
I would think the dewback is on the short list. Don't ask me why.
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Post by: Pete_Fett on May 27, 2008, 07:58 AM
I could see the Dewback being on the short list as well - mostly because of the trooper aspect of the piece. Over the past two years, Hasbro has released a wide variety of Sandtroopers and there hasn't been a Dewback on the shelf in 11 years. Even if it's the same sculpt we got back in 1997 with updated jointed legs, I would be happy with a new version. They could probably also paint it A LOT better than they did 11 years ago and that would be a welcome update.

Personally, I would prefer that they started to show some love to the Rebels on Hoth which should include an all-new Tauntaun, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Star Wars Beasts/Creatures - Do They Need Redos?
Post by: Brian on May 27, 2008, 09:29 AM
I think you guys are right, they are most likely talking about the Rancor - and I for some reason think the Dewback might be on its way as well.  That one fits pretty well into a Battle Pack if they want to go that route.  The Wampa was just updated a few years ago, and I wouldn't think they would be updating prequel beasts already (although you never know).  As we've discussed in this thread, although most of the beasts are pretty well done - they could probably do some pretty spiffy stuff with them these days.  There are a lot of figures that seemed pretty nice until we got new versions, and it was surprising how much better they looked.  The Taun Taun has always been one of my favorites, so I sort of hope we see a new sculpted, more articulated version in the not too distant future.