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Title: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 3, 2008, 12:50 AM
We've got a couple new looks at 2 of the new comic packs slated for the Legacy Collection in 2008.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Comic_AnakinDurge_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Comic_AnakinDurge_Full.jpg)
Clicky to check out Durge & Anakin Skywalker

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Comic_VentrissSkorr_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Comic_VentrissSkorr_Full.jpg)
Clicky to check out Tol Skorr & Assajj Ventriss

Now, personally, I don't think the Clone Wars Durge (realistic style) can be topped short of a new paintjob and maybe a cool new accessory.  I made him his own functional "bola" weapon and it looks smashing (no pun...  well, perhaps a little one).  Anakin...  Eh, I'll take it.  He looks beat up.

Assajj may well be one of the greater figures.  I'm hoping for some improved articulation there.  Skorr, I have no clue who he is as that's a story arc I've not gotten to at all, but he appeared to be a separatist leader of some sort and I dig that.  I'm much more interested in this set then.

Check 'em out... 
Title: Re: 2008 Legacy Comic 2-Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 3, 2008, 09:35 AM
Can't say I'm excited about either of these sets, although they both look pretty sharp.
Title: Re: 2008 Legacy Comic 2-Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 3, 2008, 11:07 AM
The Durge set is Meh to me. The other set just a small notch up from that. I'll get them both, but not before something else I want more.
Title: Re: 2008 Legacy Comic 2-Packs
Post by: jedipurge on July 3, 2008, 11:42 AM
Is it just me or does Anakin look like he just came from seeing Padme, what's up w/the lipstick  :-*  Well I guess the she had to get pregnant at somepoint   ;D 

But the old Durge I thought was pretty darn good.  Maybe they should've just saved the money reissued the old one w/better paint apps and maybe desinged the new head/helmet around the old body.  It's really going to suck if there is no knee articulation. 

Jesse the Tol Skorr is kinda interesting story arc he's an ex-jedi like Sora Bulq and theres like a competion thing going on between Skorr & Vos for favor with Dooku.  I'm just happy to get another Darksider he'll go well with the other Sith that came from the Evo set. 

Don't know if it's just me but Assaj doesn't seem to have the whole holster things for her sabers which seems odd.
Title: Re: 2008 Legacy Comic 2-Packs
Post by: JangoTat on July 3, 2008, 12:07 PM
I will get the Assaj set but the Durge doesnt look right to me. I don't have a Durge figure but I know this is not the one I want, with lack of knee articulation I think I will just wait for a con and try to get the SA one then. Besides skipping this comic pack will give me $17 to spend on something else  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Legacy Comic 2-Packs
Post by: Brian on July 3, 2008, 12:32 PM
I'm kind of excited for both of these sets, as I mentioned the earlier Clone Wars versions of both Durge and Ventress.  With the Clone Wars push on the way, it will be nice to have some realistic versions of the characters to add to the shelves.  The sets don't look too bad overall.  I always wanted to look into that CW Deluxe Durge that Jesse mentioned, as it always seems to get pretty high compliments.
Title: Re: 2008 Legacy Comic 2-Packs
Post by: David on July 3, 2008, 01:50 PM
Durge...eh, no thanks. Pass. Now the Asajj set looks really good. I like how they threw in the little probe thing even though I have no idea what it is. Anyways, cool set. I'll buy it. :)

Did anyone else notice the figures are above and next to the wrong names on the packaging? ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Reid on July 3, 2008, 06:24 PM
Both packs are a snooze for me. Why does Anakin look like a tranny? And who is Tol Skorr? They'll make that guy, but we still haven't seen an Ackmena or Noa Briqualon.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 3, 2008, 07:04 PM
Anakin's face is bruised/beaten I think...  I've not read the story, but I'm guessing it's a ROTS styled Anakin that is like the last comic pack Anakin (with the assassin droid) that has battle damage.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 3, 2008, 09:46 PM
Jedi Insider has pics of these now too, and they also have pics of the Anakin/Assassin droid which is getting repacked into Legacy Collection packaging colors.

Here's the kicker - this repack is set #3 in the Legacy Collection.

This is a dick move by Hasbro - they do **** like this just so packaging completist collectors will feel compelled to make a purchase.

If they're going to repackage sets, why not leave the numbers off the ones thats are repacks? That way, people who already have the set in the TAC packaging can just skip those and still maintain a complete numbered collection of the Legacy Collection sets.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 3, 2008, 09:58 PM
Yeah we also got the Anakin/Assassin Droid set photos but didn't post them since they weren't really anything special.  I'm glad some sets are getting repacked like that one though.  I love that droid and the Anakin's a good figure too.  The Luke/Shan pack would be nice to see again IMO, as it's fairly uncommon here...  I do know we could do without most of the others.

I've still yet to see the WM comic sets though.  No sign of them at all here.  I really wanted a few Wookiee/BARC Troopers, but alas I'll be lucky to get one methinks.  The Droid 2-packs were pretty darn uncommon here too (thus far) only showing at a couple WM's...  Such is the problem with WM exclusives.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 4, 2008, 01:19 AM
I am looking forward to both of these packs I think they look pretty good sans Anakins lipstick. I also agree the repack number system does not make sense at all, glad I am not a MOC collector. I cannot see too many of those guys left, there is just too much and it's getting way too expensive with $8 figures.

Jesse,  I have not come across the WM comic packs or Droid Factory sets in store either. I am glad I bought the Droid factory set online. I passed on the Wookie comic pack for $17 at Wizard World, I think I should have got it. With gas prices I really do not want to make countless trips to come up empty handed. I rather pay the couple extra bucks on ebay, in the end I still save money. The wookie is nice but I am now officially sick of that mold. That's the only one I want but they really need to put a new head on it. It's not a must have.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on July 17, 2008, 04:35 PM
New Pics:

Antares Draco & Ganner Kieg (http://jediinsider.net/g/index.php?mode=view&album=Hasbro%2FComic_Packs%2FClone_Wars&pic=Antares_Draco_Ganner_Krieg.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0)

Darth Talon & Cde Skywalker (http://jediinsider.net/g/index.php?mode=view&album=Hasbro%2FComic_Packs%2FClone_Wars&pic=DarthTalon_Cade_Skywaler.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0)

Fenn Shysha & Dengar (http://jediinsider.net/g/index.php?mode=view&album=Hasbro%2FComic_Packs%2FClone_Wars&pic=Fenn_Shysha_Dengar.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0)

Princess Leia & Tobbi Dala (http://jediinsider.net/g/index.php?mode=view&album=Hasbro%2FComic_Packs%2FClone_Wars&pic=Leia_Tobbi_Dala.jpg&dispsize=600&start=0)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on July 17, 2008, 04:42 PM
I don't follow EU, but I kinda dig the first two sets, but I think Hasbro got a little lazy with the other two.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 17, 2008, 04:50 PM
Agreed.  Making all-new sculpts for the comic packs satisfies even the bitter old purist in me (even if I don't buy them still  :P).  But the use of POTF2 Leia and all of these ridiculous colors of Fett is ballsy.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Spacey on July 17, 2008, 05:08 PM
I'll definately be picking up the first two, although that Cade Skywalker sculpt makes him look like a homeless surfer dude, but w/e. Easy pass on the "retro" ones.

When are these being released?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 17, 2008, 05:17 PM
I love the empty slot for Cade's saber, then did not even bother to redo the blister.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: David on July 17, 2008, 06:58 PM
Yuck. This **** pretty much only makes me more excited for the Thrawn 2-pack in Wave 3.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Reid on July 17, 2008, 10:25 PM
I like the new Marvel packs, nice to see more Mandalorians besides Boba/Jango. The Legacy packs are cool, but I'm not sure if I'll get them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 19, 2008, 10:02 AM
I might try on skipping these, see how it feels to start leaving EU out of my collection.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on July 19, 2008, 03:58 PM
Not really enthused by the Marvel offerings...even if they do have new Mandalorians.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2008, 01:43 AM
So...  looks like new sets at SDCC so far (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc08/Hasbro/comicpacks/image26.asp) are a new Vos with a Kashyyyk gear Commander Faie and a Dark Empire Luke and Clone Emperor set.

I really don't love the wide stance on DE Luke.  I don't hate it really, but he just seems really large there with his wide stance and swooshing cloak.  I like the soft goods on the Clone Emperor though, I think he looks nifty.  :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 24, 2008, 02:09 AM
Vos one is neat, but I am hoping Vos has better articulation than the first Vos figure.  Faie...  Eh.

The DE Luke though sucks to me...  I'm disappointed in that.  The Emperor is miles cooler than the POTF2 figure, but the Luke looks like a major step backwards to pre-posed junk, which I can't stand.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JangoTat on July 24, 2008, 08:51 AM
Vos one is neat, but I am hoping Vos has better articulation than the first Vos figure.  Faie...  Eh.

The DE Luke though sucks to me...  I'm disappointed in that.  The Emperor is miles cooler than the POTF2 figure, but the Luke looks like a major step backwards to pre-posed junk, which I can't stand.


Vos actually just looks like they old one with a new torso :-\
I feel the same about the Luke.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 24, 2008, 08:57 AM
Te DE Luke head sculpt looks great! I agree on the stance, hopefully that will be narrowed in production. It's a little borderline EP2 Saga style.....but the figure still looks good.

The Clone Emperor & Vos are really nice. I am 100% in on the comic packs, nice offerings all around. The production samples of the ones at TF turned out really nice.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on July 24, 2008, 12:29 PM
Wondering if it might be the Evo Emp. under those new robes, I say that just cause the lightning hand but I could totally be wrong.  Luke stance sucks but the rest looks cool, just might do a leg swap.  But not sure anybody noticed but it comes with a FREAKIN' HOLOCRON
www.yakface.com/Features/SDCC2008/hasbro/images3/21.html
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: evenflow on July 24, 2008, 01:41 PM
The Holocron is a nice addition, very cool.  ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on July 24, 2008, 01:59 PM
Wondering if it might be the Evo Emp. under those new robes, I say that just cause the lightning hand but I could totally be wrong.  Luke stance sucks but the rest looks cool, just might do a leg swap.  But not sure anybody noticed but it comes with a FREAKIN' HOLOCRON
www.yakface.com/Features/SDCC2008/hasbro/images3/21.html

Here is a better shot of it:
(http://www.yakface.com/2008/july/sithholocron.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darby on July 24, 2008, 09:12 PM
Why the disco DE Luke?  Hmm.  Anyways, cool.  And I like Vos and Faie, too.  May get them.  The rest are really all over the place for me.  All the Vader's and Leia's and Mando's and not a lot of variety it seems.  For me.  Not a huge EU guy.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on July 25, 2008, 06:32 PM
diggin' the alien pilots, look a little wierd w/out glove though.  I understand the look they're going for here but, really aliens can't wear gloves or boots?
www.rebelscum.com/SDCC08/hasbro/presentation/image53.asp

I think I'll be passing on the other 2 though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Reid on July 25, 2008, 06:57 PM
Those Wal Mart packs look fantastic, I actually like all three packs. Sucks I'll never see them, Wally World excluisves are non-existent in my area since 2004.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 25, 2008, 07:09 PM
Well - it took them some time, but FINALLY it looks like the three WalMart exclusive Comic packs might actually be WORTH getting!

The Rogue Squadron Pilots are a nice addition to the two Evolutions Pilots sets we're already getting.

The Ewok 3-pack is nice since it adds to our little Ewok armies.

The Amanin w/Lt. Sunber is nice too.

These three sets might actually be hard to come by.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Scott on July 25, 2008, 09:04 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/SDCC08/hasbro/presentation/Slide57.JPG)

I like the Ewok and and Amanin pack, the pilots are lamEU IMO
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Reid on July 25, 2008, 09:28 PM
the pilots are lamEU IMO

The Rogue Squadron series is far from lame EU, IMO.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth Broem on July 25, 2008, 09:40 PM
I did not care for the Twi-lek pilot but those 2 look kind of cool to me.  I don't know if I will buy them but they look okay. 

The ewoks set would be great if they did not have the Marvel coloring.  I may still buy them though to add some Ewoks to the collection. 

The Amanin is kind of cool.  Again not sure I will buy it.  I have no idea who the other guy is. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Ben on July 25, 2008, 10:06 PM
Never thought Hasbro would do another Dark Empire Luke. The one from 1998 is still one of my favorite figures, so seeing a gnarly new version is great.

I'm liking the new WM comic packs, too. More Ewoks!  ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: roron corobb on July 25, 2008, 11:26 PM
These are by far the best value now a days. The figures they put into them have been really cool lately. I'm not a big fan of EU stuff other than the games, but I'm all for these and more if Hasbro keeps this up. Now only if Hasbro would not paint these figures in odd colors any more and lose the POTF2 molds, they would be the best of all. I will get that Ewok pack though. They just need to repaint them.
roron corobb
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 26, 2008, 09:21 PM
Anyone find the two comic packs from wave one Legacy? Tol Skorr/Asaaj, Durge/Anakin

I was hoping to find them, but haven't seen anyone anywhere report finding them, so I guess they aren't out yet.

Ewoks: cool, I'll get two sets and make some more customs.
Amanin/Lt. Sunbar: Cool, I'll get several. Might sell off the additional Amanin though. Just want the Imperials for dioramas.
Rebel Piltos: Freakin' A! I want that set. I got Reb Evo set 1 today. Still need set 2. I'm glad we're finally getting all of the rebel pilots and that they aren't all human, even if all of the alien ones were never actually seen on screen.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 27, 2008, 01:07 AM
That's the first time Hasbro gave WM 3 really insanely cool comic packs.

The Marvel Ewoks will work fine as regular Ewoks...  That right there makes that set fantastic to me, plus I love the pilferred armor.  Nice.  I don't even know the comic, but that's good accessorizing (a battle damaged trooper helmet accessory would've been extra neat).

The Sunbir/Amanin Warrior are the highlight...  100% quality work there, from one of the coolest story arcs in EU I've read in a while.  It's a total Roarke's Drift rip-off but it's fantastic translated into SW.

The X-Wing Pilots are the things of toy erections...  New sculpted items abound in it.  Great paintjobs, and obscure pilots from EU.  Love it.  Want two just for the fodder potential.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2008, 01:44 AM
I wonder how long before we see a new Amanaman figure.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 27, 2008, 12:44 PM
Love the Vos/faie set, kind of indifferent to the new three. Don't like the colors on the ewoks, not sure I dig the alien pilots, (although I'm sure I'll get this set,) and I always hate too see new imperials with soiled uniforms.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 27, 2008, 08:32 PM
Anyone find the two comic packs from wave one Legacy? Tol Skorr/Asaaj, Durge/Anakin

I was hoping to find them, but haven't seen anyone anywhere report finding them, so I guess they aren't out yet.

I was just about to ask the same thing and then I saw Sal's post above.

None of the places I went to seemed to have it in stock. All of them had older TAC sets (Mouse/Basso, Shan/Jundland, etc...)

I'm sure we'll see them soon, but I hope the stagnant TAC product doesn't make finding the newer sets hard to find.

On a side-note, it seems to me that suffering through those last two waves of WalMart exclusive 2-packs has finally paved the way for us to get the 2009 wave which I think is absolutely fantastic! The Ewoks are great, I love the pilfered armor pieces that they are wearing. The Rogus Squadron pilots are fantastic, I love that we're starting to get non-human Rebel pilots. The Evo sets were a great start, so these two will fit in nicely with them. The Sunber/Amanin set is also great, I'm definitely going to want to grab a couple of these just to open.

In terms of the regular release sets, the only one that has me perplexed is the pose they put the Dark Empire Luke in. To have a figure with such a fantastic head sculpt and such a piss-poor body is very disappointing. Otherwise, this line looks great. I am actually more excited about the Comic 2-packs that are coming out than I am of the regular Legacy Collection figures.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: evenflow on July 28, 2008, 12:18 AM
Finally got access to a computer. The Hasbro panel was cool and i really was happy to see these.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Diddly on August 3, 2008, 07:13 PM
I saw the new Comic packs (Asajj/Some Guy, and Durge/Anakin) at Target today. Were the new Durge and Asajj figures worth the $12.99 Target wanted? No, no they weren't.

Also the Anakin looks like some kind of shemale. :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 3, 2008, 09:04 PM
I picked up the new Legacy comic sets yesterday, here is my breakdown of them:

Asajj - Overall a nice figure worth getting. It would have been a perfect figure if they gave her bendable knees. My biggest complaint is with her saber blades. Her removable blades have the Dooku handle guard on them unpainted. It's an easy exacto fix but it made no sense especially when Tol has a removable red blade in a normal fashion

Tol Skarr - In my opinion the nicest figure of the 4 new ones. He is a bit short but has some really nice details and is not short on the articulation front. He also sports some nice detail on the face with graying facial hair. His saber blade detaches and the hilt can hook into his belt, a feature that Hasbro has seemed to stay away from as of late. The shoulder armor moves (they are hinged) as they move with the arms, they do not fall off or hinder movement.

Durge - A pretty stupid when compared to the CW ones. This is a figure that was due for a cool upgrade too. This is not it. He is perfect as a bottom of the bin stacker figure that will make a great foundation next to Orn Fre Taa to lay other stored figures on top of in your storage case.

Anakin - Superb battle damaged cloth cloak, the best part of the figure! The figure's color choice is a bit odd however. This Anakin has molded Grey tunic robes with a dark brown cloth skirt that make the figure look very mismatched. Not sure why they did not just mold him in the normal brown tunic colors, he would have been a great pilot Anakin. The new head sculpt did not give me a trans vibe as some have pointed out, looked good enough to refresh the figure. I will probably use him for custom fodder.

They both have some of the best DH issues ever included in the comic pack series that gives them an added value if you never read them. In the end if you can only buy one I would say pass on the Durge get the Asajj pack.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on August 5, 2008, 03:14 PM
Anakin - [snip] The new head sculpt

So it's definitely a new head sculpt then?  I opened up my comic packs this afternoon and I was pretty sure I hadn't seen that Anakin head before, but there are so many Anakin's that I wasn't sure if it was indeed a new head or a recycled one that I wasn't remembering. :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 5, 2008, 03:43 PM
Yes, it's a new sculpt. I tore apart every Anakin figure and I am 100% positive. Did you think it looked a bit she-male? What did you think of the packs overall?

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on August 5, 2008, 04:08 PM
She/male Anakin isn't that bad, it's equivelant to his son, Saga 2 Tatooine Luke the one that came with Ben's treasure chest.  Besides the lack of articu. on Durge his legs actually look shorter for some reason, maybe just me.
For the Asajj set they looked really great but watch for the paint apps. around the necks/collar on Tol.

Side note I saw these at TRU and someone blantantly cut/ripped Durge out of the plastic, either that or he escaped, and put it right back on the front peg.  Trip is there is a big ole black "balloon" camera right there.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 5, 2008, 04:11 PM
She/male Anakin isn't that bad, it's equivelant to his son, Saga 2 Tatooine Luke the one that came with Ben's treasure chest.  Besides the lack of articu. on Durge his legs actually look shorter for some reason, maybe just me.

I did not think it looked bad either. Some made comments about it made me wonder the consensus on it.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on August 5, 2008, 04:51 PM
She/male Anakin isn't that bad, it's equivelant to his son, Saga 2 Tatooine Luke the one that came with Ben's treasure chest.  Besides the lack of articu. on Durge his legs actually look shorter for some reason, maybe just me.

I did not think it looked bad either. Some made comments about it made me wonder the consensus on it.

Remove the paint on the lips add some dark circles around the eyes and it'd make a good darkside Anakin.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on August 5, 2008, 05:00 PM
Did you think it looked a bit she-male?

Not really...

What did you think of the packs overall?

I liked them.  Tol, Asajj, Durge are all good figures, but I'd call Anakin just OK.  I would have liked Anakin to have had the hip articulation of the updated Evo sculpt from this year and it would have been great if they could have finally given him balljoint elbows.  Oh well, maybe next time...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on August 19, 2008, 12:41 PM
I was able to pick up the Asaaj/Skorr and Anakin/Durge packs this weekend, and got a chance to open them yesterday - and I have to say I'm a little disappointed.  I guess the figures I was looking forward to the most were Asaaj and Durge (missed the Clone Wars versions), and neither of them have articulated knees.  The sculpts and everything are good I guess, but I was kind of hoping for "ultimate" versions of these characters, particularly with more focus now coming with the upcoming CW show (well, we don't know about Durge yet I guess).  I always regretted not getting the Deluxe Durge figure (which I hear is great), and now, I still do.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on August 19, 2008, 02:33 PM
I was disappointed to see that Durge and Assajj both lack knee joints, as Hasbro I believe made mention the price hike was going to help them improve articulation on these sets...  Guess that was blowing smoke up our asses though.  Assajj is a great figure otherwise though.  My only other gripe is maybe she could've used the holsters for her sabers that a past figure had.  I liked those a lot.  The knees were my main gripe though.

I didn't even buy Durge/Anakin though...  I'm considering it but right now I'm thinking I need to cut back things I really just don't care about and that set just didn't interest me much.  I like my Deluxe Durge just fine and made him a cool bolo weapon so he's all armed up.

Tol Skor is pretty nifty though.  That's a nice figure overall and I dig the left hand's sculpt.  top notch.  Plus the shoulder pads move with the shoulders.  That's nice thinking on the designer's part.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on August 22, 2008, 05:41 PM
Just got a bunch of new ones, haven't opened them all yet.  Here are some first impressions you can ignore.

DURGE & ANAKIN
Seems like Evo Anakin with new deco, maybe new head.  Durge is a mix of the 2003 Deluxe figure with retooled bits.  Overall: Meh.
ASAJJ & TOL SKORR
Asajj seems to be the 2003 carded version with new legs, soft goods, and new deco.  Her saber isn't painted correctly.  Her little droid is nice, though.  Tol Skorr seems like a waste of plastic except for the fact that it's a fine figure with 14 points of articulation and some of the best paint I've seen this year.  Why such a forgettable character gets the deluxe treatment is beyond me.
ANTARES DRACO & GANNER KRIEG
Both share the same super-articulated body.  Great paint, awesome sculpting, wonderful deco.  Soft goods "skirt" and "cape."  Cape is not removable and attached cloth hood hangs on head strangely, just like all Jedi robes.  Antares' head alone is worth buying this set to see.  He reminds me of someone and I can't put my finger on it.  Ganner reminds me of someone from a ren faire trying to be Legolas, but it's still an excellent sculpt and is true to the character.  Get this set.
CADE & DARTH TALON
The packaging for Cade has a slot for a lightsaber in it.  Hasbro has confirmed, months ago, that the figure will not include a lightsaber.  Way to go, Hasbro Packaging Department.   Cade looks more like his mother due to the bubbly hair and eyeliner.  The body of the figure, though, is one of Hasbro's finest with tons of articulation and a great holster.  I love this figure, I just wish the head was a little bit better in terms of deco and it'd be perfect.   Darth Talon has no elbow joints, but is otherwise super articulated.  She looks better than the early prototypes.  Also, her saber hilt is very bend-friendly so be careful.  This is a great set, I'd say get it but consider holding off on it until you see a few Cade's face in person a few times, to see if they're all this way.  (I think they are.)
THRAWN & TALON KARRDE
Thrawn's ankles bother me.  Around the joint is unpainted white plastic which you can see from the front-- it's all very distracting. He also doesn't have a gun, but he does have one of his Ysalamiri buddies.  Super articulated, but the skirt prevents all hip movement.   Karrde is great-- working holster, super articulated, etc.  His arms and jacket are the same color, which is a little off-putting.  But it's a very nice figure.   This set seems like it could do very well with customizers for many different reasons, I really like it.  I wonder if we'll end up getting more of the various grand admirals.

XIZOR & LEIA
VADER & SNIPER LEIA
VADER & TRACHTA
Haven't opened it yet.

MISC
- Super-articulated seems the norm for most new Comic Pack figures
- The figures are, on average, as good as or better than individual figures
- Waist articulation more similar to GI Joe or Clones on a lot of figures-- the belt is not necessarily the waist joint any more.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on August 22, 2008, 05:46 PM
Cool, thanks for the reviews Adam.

On Ventress though, I believe her legs are the same mold as before.  Which is unfortunate due to the lack of knee articulation.  But her arms are new and very well done.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on August 22, 2008, 06:54 PM
Cool, thanks for the reviews Adam.

On Ventress though, I believe her legs are the same mold as before.  Which is unfortunate due to the lack of knee articulation.  But her arms are new and very well done.

They are-- I wrote "legs," I meant "arms." :)  Legs are absolutely the same.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on August 22, 2008, 07:01 PM
- Waist articulation more similar to GI Joe or Clones on a lot of figures-- the belt is not necessarily the waist joint any more.

It had looked like Cade had some articulation around his armor is this what you're refering to?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: solrac on August 22, 2008, 07:07 PM
i got the Durge/anakin pack and noticed that the figures were packaged on the wrong sides. the durge name and picture has the anakin figure inside it.there is another comic pack like that but i forgot which one...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on August 22, 2008, 07:42 PM
It had looked like Cade had some articulation around his armor is this what you're refering to?

Yup.  Darth Talon's waist joint is under her top, Tol Skorr's is under his pecs, SOTE Leia's is also under her chest,  so this seems to be more common on these guys.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on August 22, 2008, 08:09 PM
OK, opened up Xizor vs. Leia.  Both are super articulated.

Leia's OK but her little wrap won't stay on.  Short.  Blaster seems to be the one from Antilles/Dodonna.

Xizor's decent.  Lots of detail.  The staff is the same one as 1996 Momaw Nadon.

...and futzing with Durge more, it seems he's basically a new mold.  No jetpack (or hole for said pack), redone arms, etc.  He's definitely new or modified heavily, but is inspired heavily by his 2003 ancestor.  And Thrawn's little lizard buddy seems to have partially discolored little spots on his torso.

These packs are so great that I'd actually be happy to see the line converted to be more comic packs.  Assuming, of course, 9% of them didn't include another Vader.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 23, 2008, 10:07 AM
When I picked up the Durge and Asajj packs, I had set them aside not having the time to open 'em up. Had some time yesterday, but just looked at them instead. I'm really debating whether or not to bother with expanded universe figures anymore.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Diddly on August 24, 2008, 03:33 PM
I am THRILLED to hear about how great the Thrawn and Xizor sets are. Those are the only Comic Packs I'm interested in out of all these new ones.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on August 25, 2008, 09:49 AM
Thanks for the impressions Adam.  I'm really looking forward to the Thrawn pack, as well as some of the other OT-ish based ones.  I recently got the Asaaj and Durge packs, and was happy to get those since I missed those earlier figures.  With figures like Tol Skorr and others, I guess the figures are really well done, but I don't find myself caring much about them.  I just stuck him in the back of a display and that was that.  I guess I'm just not into the EU deep enough or something...and part of it is budgetary, as I'm really looking at what I'm going to purchase pretty closely now...but some of the more obscure EU stuff I'm starting to care less about.  I know its a great way to get figures that likely wouldn't make the basic line though, and there are fan bases for most to all of them, so that's great that they make them.  I guess I wouldn't mind seeing some "2 packs" that are more movie based or something.  If things ever shift to more 2 packs (like Adam has discussed before) to save on packaging (and a cheaper price per figure), I wouldn't mind seeing some movie characters make the lineup.  Heck, not that I'm advocating repacking in any way, but who wouldn't pick up a 2 pack of say an all new Hoth Rebel Soldier alongside the VTSC Snowtrooper (and throw in an Empire comic reprint if you want).  There might be a better avenue for this of course, since people really don't like paying for "one new figure" - but I know I'd grab some.  Anyways, thanks for the impressions, hoping those other comic packs (Thrawn, Zixor, etc.) show up soon.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 26, 2008, 03:28 PM
EE sent my case of new Legacy Collection comic packs. The case included:

1x Legacy #2: Darth Talon & Cade Skywalker
2x Shadows of the Empire #5: Princess Leia & Prince Xizor
2x Heir to the Empire #1: Grand Admiral Thrawn & Talon Karrde
1x Empire #1: Darth Vader & Admiral Trachta
1x Legacy #6: Antares Draco & Ganner Krieg
1x Infinities ROTJ #3/4: Darth Vader (White) & Princess Leia (Sniper)

THEY ARE SWEET!!!

I am so glad I ordered the case on 8/13! That's fast shipping!
(I was just beginning to get disappointed with EE for not shipping the Joe Wave 9 cases to me yet after seeing them in stores everywhere. Great rebound, although I want my Joes dammit!)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 27, 2008, 12:21 AM
This is kind of nuts - or am I the only one who thinks so?

They ship a repack of the Anakin/Assassin Droid set in the Legacy packaging, label it #3 so packaged collectors would be compelled to make a purchase and then less than a month after those hit - there's a case of eight sets that includes SIX unique 2-packs.

Huh?

First off, why not include one of those six in the first wave and ditch the Anakin?

Second, why in cases of EIGHT do they not make the waves in counts of 2 or 4? Two of these sets should have been with Wave 1 and then that would mean that once you throw out the repack Anakin set, you'd have two waves of FOUR packs each and in each case 2x of each pack.

Look, I know this is mean and insulting, but isn't there a WalMart that could use a greeter in Pawtucket, RI? The only reason I ask is 'cause the guy at Hasbro who comes up with the waves and case pack ratios really needs to go, but since I don't want to see him out of a job, I'm sure he'd be useful over at the WalMart.  ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 27, 2008, 09:54 AM
You're not the only one who looks at these things Pete. I scratch my head a bunch of times as well, but having had some experience in production, I also reason out potential issues that could have forced the case ratio's, the primary being production delays.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on August 27, 2008, 03:13 PM
<snip>

First off, why not include one of those six in the first wave and ditch the Anakin?

Second, why in cases of EIGHT do they not make the waves in counts of 2 or 4? Two of these sets should have been with Wave 1 and then that would mean that once you throw out the repack Anakin set, you'd have two waves of FOUR packs each and in each case 2x of each pack.

There's a variety of reasons to roll them out this way, which aren't necessarily what I want as a collector (everything now, first, and new.)   Even case packs are great for online stores and mail order catalogs (we love them!), but for retail stores, not so much.  I can't believe (for example) Grand Moff Trachta and a repack Darth Vader is going to be an enormous seller to a general audience unless a kid wants a Vader and that's the only option on the pegs.   It's the whole thing about certain characters always outselling others-- they do this because they believe (and are generally right) that certain characters are going to be more popular and therefore need to ship in greater numbers.

...which makes sense, as Thrawn is pretty popular.  Xizor, uh, well, whatever.  Can't say I get that one being a two-per-case given what happened in 1996... and 1997... and in some regions, 1998.  (Although it's a nice figure.)  Repacking Anakin is an easy sale (a bunch of new buyers are in the line with the big PR push from the movie and toy launch, and it's all new to them) and the set sold really well last time, so keeping it in circulation is good for the bottom line.

As long as figures aren't hanging around too long, Hasbro (and its retail partners) are pretty happy.  Since it seems (from what I've been told by people on all sides of this line) fans aren't buying the entire comic packs range, but tend to be pick-and-choosers, I can see where they're coming from.  I guess at least wave 2 was evenly packed, but that's more of an anamolly these days.   I'm glad I *don't* have the job of determining the casepacks because the last thing I'd want are angry Wal-Mart and Target employees wondering just why the heck Luke's great-great-great-grandson was heavily packed because I thought he was cool. :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: ruiner on August 27, 2008, 05:27 PM
Quote from: JACKOFTRADZE link=topic=17765.msg388341#msg388341

1x Infinities ROTJ #3/4: Darth Vader (White) & Princess Leia (Sniper)

Still can't believe LFL allowed a white Vader to hit the pegs at mass retail...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth Broem on September 3, 2008, 09:57 AM
I may buy the white one just for the fun of it though.  Then I think "No, that is a waste of money...but still it would be interesting."  I think I will buy the SOTE Xizor and Leia and use Leia as that dancing girl in Jabba's Palace.  Xizor looks fantastic. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 3, 2008, 11:32 AM
Quote from: JACKOFTRADZE link=topic=17765.msg388341#msg388341

1x Infinities ROTJ #3/4: Darth Vader (White) & Princess Leia (Sniper)

Still can't believe LFL allowed a white Vader to hit the pegs at mass retail...

It's a bit goofy and odd at first glance but that's what makes it so interesting. In a galaxy that is so lived in why would anyone don an all white outfit, how is he going to stay so pristine white.....that puzzles me more than LF letting this out.
Maybe he has a tide stick lightsaber to get rid of smudges.......

These comic packs have raised the bar in quality, you all will be very happy with the bulk of them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on September 3, 2008, 06:01 PM
Quote from: JACKOFTRADZE link=topic=17765.msg388341#msg388341

1x Infinities ROTJ #3/4: Darth Vader (White) & Princess Leia (Sniper)

Still can't believe LFL allowed a white Vader to hit the pegs at mass retail...

It's a bit goofy and odd at first glance but that's what makes it so interesting. In a galaxy that is so lived in why would anyone don an all white outfit, how is he going to stay so pristine white.....that puzzles me more than LF letting this out.
Maybe he has a tide stick lightsaber to get rid of smudges.......

These comic packs have raised the bar in quality, you all will be very happy with the bulk of them.

Ya it was a stupid concept even for a visionaries/infinities whatever you want to call it, it really shows a complete lack of imagination on the storytellers part.  They come up up with a complete what if universe and all the do for Vader is give him a white suit, WOW!  At least with the other Infinity comic pack Vader looked different besides his color.  We can't blame H for this, though they didn't have to pick to make it into plastic. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 5, 2008, 01:43 AM
Grabbed one each of the Draco/Krieg, Cade/Talon, Leia/Dala, Dengar/Shysa sets tonight on my way home from work.

I haven't opened the two Marvel sets yet, but I did open the two Legacy sets - they are fantastic!

There's only one thing that I noticed was different about my Cade/Talon set when compared to Adam's reviews - my Cade came with both a lit and unlit lightsaber. The hilt is almost all silver with some black grip lines at near the bottom of the handle and the lit saber has a green blade. I think this meant to be Sia's lightsaber from Issue #6 that the two Imperial Knights come with.

So what will be the more common version of the set with or without the lightsaber? I'm going to shoot myself if the "with" set is rarer of the two since I just opened one of those.  :o
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on September 5, 2008, 10:20 AM
did the same thing w/the Mara Luke set who knew it'd be the more rare one  :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on September 5, 2008, 05:09 PM
There's only one thing that I noticed was different about my Cade/Talon set when compared to Adam's reviews - my Cade came with both a lit and unlit lightsaber. The hilt is almost all silver with some black grip lines at near the bottom of the handle and the lit saber has a green blade. I think this meant to be Sia's lightsaber from Issue #6 that the two Imperial Knights come with.

Can you share a picture, by any chance?  I've heard this from one other person and haven't seen it myself.  And I've seen at least 6 of the Cade sets so far.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on September 5, 2008, 05:39 PM
from ebay... 

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/1/7/3/6/8/webimg/168388100_o.jpg)

(http://i12.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/09/92/1e19_1.JPG)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on September 5, 2008, 06:23 PM
Grabbed one each of the Draco/Krieg, Cade/Talon, Leia/Dala, Dengar/Shysa sets tonight on my way home from work.

I haven't opened the two Marvel sets yet, but I did open the two Legacy sets - they are fantastic!

There's only one thing that I noticed was different about my Cade/Talon set when compared to Adam's reviews - my Cade came with both a lit and unlit lightsaber. The hilt is almost all silver with some black grip lines at near the bottom of the handle and the lit saber has a green blade. I think this meant to be Sia's lightsaber from Issue #6 that the two Imperial Knights come with.

So what will be the more common version of the set with or without the lightsaber? I'm going to shoot myself if the "with" set is rarer of the two since I just opened one of those.  :o


Actually the lit lightsaber and the hilt that Cade has is from later in the series; like around issue #12 :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 5, 2008, 08:29 PM
Actually the lit lightsaber and the hilt that Cade has is from later in the series; like around issue #12 :)

Cool - thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 5, 2008, 08:31 PM
Can you share a picture, by any chance?  I've heard this from one other person and haven't seen it myself.  And I've seen at least 6 of the Cade sets so far.

Thanks to Jeff's quick response - the pictures he posted are exactly what mine looked like before I opened it.

I did notice that for some odd reason on the front of the packaging it's mis-numbered as Comic Pack #2 - the back and bubble insert correctly show Comic Pack #4, but the front of the card back is wrong.

Cade's a great figure - you can tell that Hasbro probably figured that this would be the ONLY chance to deliver on this character so they better make it a good one.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on September 5, 2008, 10:55 PM
Are you absolutely sure this is the only Cade being released? ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 6, 2008, 07:30 PM
Are you absolutely sure this is the only Cade being released? ;)

No of course not - no one can ever be sure of that. But based on the answers that Hasbro provides in the Q&As, they often will indicate that a figure that a character got will be the ONLY shot at getting that character in plastic.

Besides, personally, I would rather see them hit upon a bunch of other characters from the Legacy series:


And those are just ones I can think of. I think a box set or battle pack of Krayth's Sith Lords would be a cool set. Another set that would be interesting would be to put Nyna Calixte and Morrigan Corde in the same set considering the revelation about those characters and the fact that Corge is Cade's mom.

Perhaps they could make a "Sith Apprentice" version of Cade, but on the grand scheme of things, unique characters would be far more exciting to see.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on September 8, 2008, 11:03 AM
Read over at RS but hadn't sen it mentioned here that there is a variation on the Luke/Deanna comic pack, the Deanna has a bun on the back of her noggin, compared to the OG that's a straight Juno head.  I went over to local Walmart, were this pack runeth over, and did confirm it for myself.  It's pretty easy to see thru the packaging if it has it or not.

variation hunters beware
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Muftak on September 8, 2008, 11:14 AM
That's a pretty neat variation/upgrade in the figure. Wish I had waited to get the new version.

Between this and the Luke/Han Comic Stormtrooper deco changes last year...and the Mara Jade neck fix...I'm starting to get the feeling it's better to wait out the first release of a comic pack I want.

Case in point, I have been drooling over the chance to buy Talon Karrde and Admiral Thrawn since the set was announced. With the recent news that Thrawn's sculpted gloves are painted to match his flesh tone, I was slightly bummed. So do I pass this set up in the hopes that the problem gets fixed in a revision case later on, or grab it when I see it like I know I will be compelled to?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on September 8, 2008, 04:22 PM
ActionFigs.com: Recently, Hasbro stated it was "less likely" that Aurra Sing would be updated with better articulation. Might Hasbro reconsider that position given the fact that she was a major villain in several comic series, and is an action-oriented character which thus merits a better-articulated figure? Aurra could go great in a comic pack with perhaps Sharad Hett, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Reess Kairn, Torgo Tahn, Senator Tikkes, Aayla Secura or even an updated Adi Gallia.

Hasbro: We don't rule out that someday we could update Aurra Sing, but she isn't high on our list right now given some of the other figures we have coming. The version of Aurra that we have right now (last released in 2006) is, we think, still a very solid figure and the need to update her isn't as pressing....at least for now. You'll see, too, why at least two of your choices would not be good ones, as they are both coming out in the same pack in late Spring 2009.

RS has rumor of a Hett/Mundi comic pack so this kinda might be a confirmation of that.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 9, 2008, 09:12 AM
Wow, interesting variation. I'll have to look for it.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 12, 2008, 09:23 AM
Wow, interesting variation. I'll have to look for it.

I looked for it and picked it up. It's interesting that the picture on the back always had the "bun."
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: ruiner on September 12, 2008, 09:48 AM
If any of you buy the 'White Vader' comic pack and don't want the Vader, let me know. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on September 12, 2008, 01:39 PM
Ruiner, I may have your back on that one.  I am pretty confident I won't want that Vader at all.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on September 12, 2008, 01:55 PM
I found the four Wave 2 Comic Packs at Wal-Mart today - Cade/Talon, Legacy Guards, Fenn/Dengar, Leia/Tobbi.  For the record, my Cade has the green lit lightsaber and a saber hilt included.

One theory I read was that the "with Green Lightsaber" Cade/Talon set is in the Wave 2 boxes, while the "without Green Lightsaber" Cade/Talon set has only been found in the Wave 3 boxes that various e-tailers shipped.

The finds reported here so far seem to fit that theory...

with Green Saber:
PeteFett = with Wave 2 at ?
Jeff = with Wave 2 at Wal-Mart

without Green Saber:
Adam P = from EE Wave 3 case
JACKOFTRADZE = from EE Wave 3 case

Can anyone else out there help confirm/deny this theory?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 12, 2008, 02:30 PM
I found the four Wave 2 Comic Packs at Wal-Mart today - Cade/Talon, Legacy Guards, Fenn/Dengar, Leia/Tobbi.  For the record, my Cade has the green lit lightsaber and a saber hilt included.

One theory I read was that the "with Green Lightsaber" Cade/Talon set is in the Wave 2 boxes, while the "without Green Lightsaber" Cade/Talon set has only been found in the Wave 3 boxes that various e-tailers shipped.

The finds reported here so far seem to fit that theory...

with Green Saber:
PeteFett = with Wave 2 at ?
Jeff = with Wave 2 at Wal-Mart

without Green Saber:
Adam P = from EE Wave 3 case

Can anyone else out there help confirm/deny this theory?

I can confirm the without Green Saber from the EE Wave 3 case, that's what I received too. I will keep my eyes peeled for the store versions.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on September 12, 2008, 02:57 PM
It's so weird to me that there is so much interest in variations... oh well.  Part of the hobby I suppose 

Mine was purchased at Wal-Mart, and did have the saber w/ green hilt and an extra hilt showing on the package.  Who knows if I could even identify them now, as I've already taken Cade apart for fodder and his sabers are in a huge weapons box.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: ruiner on September 12, 2008, 02:59 PM
Ruiner, I may have your back on that one.  I am pretty confident I won't want that Vader at all.

Cool - you know where you can find me.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on September 12, 2008, 03:01 PM
It's so weird to me that there is so much interest in variations...

I'm not really interested in the "variation" on this one so much as I'm trying to help folks find the version WITH the saber... I mean, even if you're just buying the set for fodder, wouldn't you rather have the set with an extra saber than the set without the extra weapon?  ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on September 12, 2008, 06:16 PM
Got my cade/talon pack today w/cade saber.  Little wierd but I'm kinda guessing why, the unlit hilt has a hole in it to plug a blade into it but if it already come w/lit saberhilt why does it need a hilt with plug?  I tried the red blade from Talon and it fits in there good so I don't know if that's H's intention cause I know there was some comic cover art of Cade w/red saber but I'm not sure if it was the same saber as the one he comes with.

side note thinking of customizing Talon and slicing/dicing/glueing with the elbows of Dominatrix Padme and Talon's arms.  If I can find the Padme somewhere that is haven't seen her in a while.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on September 13, 2008, 12:13 AM
So I'm confused, but is the set with the Grand Moff guy out?  Is that the one with white Vader?  I'm very confused wtf is even out on shelves right now.  We just got the first Legacy packs in not all that long ago (Skorr/Ventress, & Durge/Anakin), and I'm just not sure what I'm even looking for these days.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on September 13, 2008, 12:51 AM
I think only Wave 1 (Ani/Durge, Asajj/Skorr, Ani/Droid) and Wave 2 (Cade/Talon, Legacy Guards, Fenn/Dengar, Leia/Tobbi) have hit retail... 

The only people I have seen report finding Wave 3 (SotE Leia/Xizor, Thrawn/Karrde, Vader/Trachta, White Vader/Endor Leia) have gotten them from an e-tailer/on-line source and not at regular retail stores.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 13, 2008, 10:16 AM
Here's another variation to get everyone up in arms. I picked up this wave yesterday and the Cade/Talon pack is labeled as set #2 in stead of set #4.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on September 13, 2008, 03:10 PM
It's so weird to me that there is so much interest in variations...

I'm not really interested in the "variation" on this one so much as I'm trying to help folks find the version WITH the saber... I mean, even if you're just buying the set for fodder, wouldn't you rather have the set with an extra saber than the set without the extra weapon?  ;)

Yeah, I guess.  But I wouldn't hold out on one over the other for it. 

When I got mine, I didn't know there was any sort of variation... heh.  I guess I would have still opened it anyways...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 23, 2008, 02:55 PM
Just an FYI, I picked up the Deena Shan Variant and it really is an entirely different head sculpt. I found 2 and bought them both, Here is a clear pic:

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/deenavairant.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on September 23, 2008, 04:15 PM
I saw the Leia & Tobbi Dala comic 2-pack yesterday.  Meh.  I may very well pass on this and the other Marvel 2-pack in this current wave.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on September 23, 2008, 09:44 PM
I see EE has a new case pack up for pre order, Legacy Comic Packs Wave 5 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=HA-807301583&number=HS87504L), which confirms a few of the rumors out there:

1x Dark Empire II #1: Clone Emperor & Luke Skywalker
1x Republic #82: Commander Faie & Quinlan Vos
1x X-Wing Rogue Squadron #32: Borsk Fey'la & Wedge Antilles (Academy outfit)
1x Rebellion #3: Luke Skywalker & Deena (Stealth Armor)
1x Outlander #TBD: Ki-Adi Mundi & Sharad Hett

The big question that pops out at me is - "do we really need another Luke/Deena set?" ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: David on September 23, 2008, 10:24 PM
Nothing too exciting, besides the Bothan and Quinlan Vos (if it's his Jedi outfit version). Aren't we getting Commander Faie in the upcoming ROTS wave? I actually wish they'd gone with a cool Aayla repaint from the Twilight cover art.

Anyways, I'm really digging the Bothan if he's done right. He's got loads of customizing potential...Borsk Feyla's a Bothan, right? :-X :-[
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Reid on September 23, 2008, 10:36 PM
Nothing too exciting, besides Quinlan Vos (if it's his Jedi outfit version).

It is. (http://www.rebelscum.com/SDCC08/hasbro/presentation/image13.asp)

It's not new, though. From what I can tell, it's a partial repaint/kitbash. The head and legs look like they're from the first Vos figure, and the torso and arms look like they're from A'Sharad Hett. This would've been a good chance to give Vos knees.

Anyways, I'm really digging the Bothan if he's done right. He's got loads of customizing potential...Borsk Feyla's a Bothan, right? :-X :-[

Yes.

(http://www.ossus.pl/images/thumb/b/b0/Borsk_fey'lya.JPG/244px-Borsk_fey'lya.JPG)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on September 24, 2008, 06:55 AM
Is that Joe Camel?  :P
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 24, 2008, 08:56 AM
Is that Joe Camel?  :P

No, it's his cousin Frank.  ;D

Too bad EE doesn't have pictures yet.

Also, nice to know that head sculpt on Deena is that different.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 24, 2008, 03:28 PM
I see EE has a new case pack up for pre order, Legacy Comic Packs Wave 5 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=HA-807301583&number=HS87504L), which confirms a few of the rumors out there:

1x Dark Empire II #1: Clone Emperor & Luke Skywalker
1x Republic #82: Commander Faie & Quinlan Vos
1x X-Wing Rogue Squadron #32: Borsk Fey'la & Wedge Antilles (Academy outfit)
1x Rebellion #3: Luke Skywalker & Deena (Stealth Armor)
1x Outlander #TBD: Ki-Adi Mundi & Sharad Hett

The big question that pops out at me is - "do we really need another Luke/Deena set?" ::)

I do not mind the Luke /Deena Pack I am more disappointed in Vos not having bendy knees and getting Wedge in a useless outfit. I would rather see him in a SA X-Wing or Hoth outfit. Reuse those great bodies....now!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on September 24, 2008, 11:50 PM
Is the Luke/Deena (Stealth Armor) CP from this depiction (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:SWREB3-FC.jpg)?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on September 25, 2008, 12:02 AM
The description definitely makes me think that's the source material for that set.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on September 25, 2008, 01:03 AM
I'm digging it...  I too am bummed on Vos' lack of knees.  I said this before but didn't Hasbro claim the price hikes on the comic packs were going to deliver more articulation per figure, and that the old packs always lacked some important points on some figures as a cost-saver?  Where'd all that smoke blown up our asses drift off to?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: commandernarra on September 25, 2008, 09:41 AM
Previews has a small pic of Wedge and Borsk, Ki and Sharad, and Luke and Deena. Love the latter, Ki, and especially Sharad look almost Marvel colored bright, and Borsk, well I need to see a bigger pic, but it isn't the best Bothan interpretation they could of used. Wedge looks pretty solid. Sorry can't scan, but pics will be everywhere soon I guess. :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on September 25, 2008, 10:24 PM
Is the Luke/Deena (Stealth Armor) CP from this depiction (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:SWREB3-FC.jpg)?

Yep, sure looks like it - from the gang at RS:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/2008/scan0031.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on September 25, 2008, 10:37 PM
Funny, when I saw Ki-Adi Mundi I thought it was Scarecrow from Wizard of Oz. And the Luke/Shan set has an X-Men feel to it. :P
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JangoTat on September 25, 2008, 10:39 PM
The luke in spy gear looks pretty kickass..but is that the wrong saber again? lawl

and is it just me or does wedge have the training gear clone legs :-\ the bothan looks wierd and the sand people beside looks crappy. Good thing I have decided to skip most comic packs this year. The luke/blonde chick set is a maybe all the others are a pass.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on September 25, 2008, 10:44 PM
The luke in spy gear looks pretty kickass..but is that the wrong saber again? lawl

and is it just me or does wedge have the training gear clone legs :-\ the bothan looks wierd and the sand people beside looks crappy. Good thing I have decided to skip most comic packs this year. The luke/blonde chick set is a maybe all the others are a pass.

Hard to tell from that pic, but Luke's lightsaber looks correct, but until I see it in stores, I won't hold me breath. As for Wedge, I thought the same thing when looking at the legs, they sure look like the Training Clone sculpt (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tac/55/lf.html)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth Broem on September 26, 2008, 12:30 AM
I like the Luke set.  Ki-Adi-Mundi is that you?  WTF?  That is a crazy outfit.  I will add Borsk just because I want a figure of him.  Wedge is what I thought it would be like. 

Did they really not add knee articulation to poor Vos?  I will probably still buy it because of the headsculpt and I'm a sucker for camo-troopers.  I haven't decided on Dark Empire yet.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 26, 2008, 10:29 AM
Yeah, the Ki Adi Mundi is pretty wacky. Not too sure about the bottom row. My initial reaction is, ewww!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 26, 2008, 11:39 AM
Ki Adi Mundi reminds me of one of the 70's McDonalds characters:

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/Mcdchar.jpg)

O.K. sets, I wish it was a pilot Biggs instead of a useless Academy outfit. The Bothan is really silly looking, I never got the appeal of Bothans. I like the Luke/deena set the best. This will be great for custom fodder......
I agree it does appear the Biggs has the Training Clone/Crimson empire legs.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darby on September 26, 2008, 12:10 PM
Wedge is a huge letdown for some one who has long just wanted a good pilot Wedge.  The headsculpt doesn't look that great for headswaps, either.  All of them are kind of blah to me.   :(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: evenflow on September 26, 2008, 12:22 PM
I don't remember Shared Hett being those colors.  :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on September 26, 2008, 01:05 PM
I'm so freakin' army building that luke/deanna set, finally an actual rebel soldier, that actually looks like a soldier.  As much as I want RFT's, Hoth troops, Endor troops NEWLY sculpted with SA articulation, they've never struck a cord with me as being soldiers in an army in another galaxy that has had armor wearing troops for thousands of years.  At least these stealth outfits make sense in the SW universe.

wedge/feyla-those aren't clone legs those are SW Power Ranger legs  :P  Feyla looks like he's sporting Fisto's legs in a different color.  They look alright I'll get one and throw the Wedge head on the Pilot from the Evo Pack until H gives a Wedge pilot.

mundi/hett-Hett looks to be sporting the same arms, legs & skirt as his son.  Mundi looks to have his same legs as the original, intresting that he's sporting a purple blade must've borrowed Mace's.  Look's like the mask on Hett is removable too, way to big for a scuplted head.

faie/Vos-What the heck is up with no knees on Vos, and why if this is his Jedi outfit does he have a holster/blaster?  I wish H would throw some Fisto or Hett legs on him, despite inaccuracies and with the holster it's already inaccurate anyway so might as well go all the way and at least get some articulated knees out of it anyway, then have those unbending sticks.

clone/luke-looks like a flashback to Saga collection w/luke in that action pose and flowing cape still.  wish they'd have fixed that.  But it's still a buy.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on September 26, 2008, 02:51 PM
Finally saw the Imperial Knights and Cade Skywalker with Darth Talon today.  Of course the Cade & Talon set DIDN'T have the lightsaber, so I passed.  And of course I'm continuing to pass on the Marvel sets.  They just don't cut it for me.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on September 26, 2008, 04:48 PM
I too am very anti-Marvel at this point, and while I was tempted on the Mando's, I'm likely going to pass on all those sets.  Unfortunately though, around here it's still all the first wave of Legacy comic sets around.  I've seen hide nor hair of the latest stuff. 

I couldn't even bring myself to buy the Durge comic given that Durge doesn't even live up to the deluxe Durge from the CW years.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 27, 2008, 09:56 AM
It's hard to believe that the comic packs are suppling just as many new figures as the basic figure line.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Ben on September 30, 2008, 03:33 AM
I'm still wondering who all these characters are or where they came from. I guess that means most of them are passes for me.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 30, 2008, 09:26 AM
I'm still wondering who all these characters are or where they came from.

That's always my reaction. Then I buy the set, read the comic and wind up liking the characters.  :P
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 30, 2008, 09:38 AM
Ki Adi Mundi reminds me of one of the 70's McDonalds characters:

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/Mcdchar.jpg)

O.K. sets, I wish it was a pilot Biggs instead of a useless Academy outfit. The Bothan is really silly looking, I never got the appeal of Bothans. I like the Luke/deena set the best. This will be great for custom fodder......
I agree it does appear the Biggs has the Training Clone/Crimson empire legs.

That's funny, my initial reaction was Kung Lao of Mortal Kombat.

(http://www.mortalkombatwarehouse.com/mka/kunglao/cutout.png)


Love me some of that Bothan though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on September 30, 2008, 11:58 AM
So are the Thrawn/Karrde, Leia/White Vader, and Vader/Adm. Trachta packs out at retail (wide) yet?  I thought I had read someone (it may have been Adam from GH) that had at least the Karrde pack, but I wasn't sure.  I've seen (only one of each) the recent Marvel sets (Dengar, Leia, Mandos) and the 2 Legacy packs, but I wasn't sure if I should be keeping my eyes open for anything beyond that.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on September 30, 2008, 12:09 PM
I don't know about wide, but I think that assortment has made its way to as far as the Midwest as a fellow MN guy found the Vader/Trachta set.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Morgbug on September 30, 2008, 04:10 PM
What are you guys paying in the US for these?  I saw the $17.99 MSRP on the previous page, but that can't be right, can it?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on September 30, 2008, 04:14 PM
I think for the big box stores its 12.99, right?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 30, 2008, 04:15 PM
I think for the big box stores its 12.99, right?

Target is $12.99
WM and TRU are $11.99
Not sure about KB but I would guess they are $17.99  ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on September 30, 2008, 04:16 PM
I paid $12.99 for the Imperial Knights comic 2-pack at a mom & pop store.  I was very surprised at just how well articulated both of those figures are.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JangoTat on September 30, 2008, 05:54 PM
So are the Thrawn/Karrde, Leia/White Vader, and Vader/Adm. Trachta packs out at retail (wide) yet?  I thought I had read someone (it may have been Adam from GH) that had at least the Karrde pack, but I wasn't sure.  I've seen (only one of each) the recent Marvel sets (Dengar, Leia, Mandos) and the 2 Legacy packs, but I wasn't sure if I should be keeping my eyes open for anything beyond that.

Well the trachta set has been found in Canada, and if its been found here it has to be around in the states ;)


I think for the big box stores its 12.99, right?

Target is $12.99
WM and TRU are $11.99
Not sure about KB but I would guess they are $17.99  ;D

Wow suddenly I dont really mind the $14 price tag up here. not too much of a difference I guess, but still havent seen a comic pack this year that interests me.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Zirock on October 2, 2008, 10:44 AM
I think for the big box stores its 12.99, right?

Target is $12.99
WM and TRU are $11.99
Not sure about KB but I would guess they are $17.99  ;D
Actually, I've seen them for $12.88 at WM. Paid $12.99 last night at Target for Cade/Talon and the Knights.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Daigo-Bah on October 2, 2008, 12:46 PM
I won't buy any for the existing characters themselves, but I see a lot of potential customizing into other obscure film characters.  Particularly the Karrde body and Bothan body.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on October 2, 2008, 01:52 PM
I won't buy any for the existing characters themselves, but I see a lot of potential customizing into other obscure film characters.  Particularly the Karrde body and Bothan body.

Karrde is worth it just for the Atricu. legs and sleeveless Articu. arms.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on October 20, 2008, 09:34 PM
As per our front page, we have new pics up of the next Comic packs...

Hell I haven't found the last two waves!

Here are thumbnails... 

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Leg_LukeCloneEmpComicCarded_TN.jpg)
Luke Skywalker & Clone Emperor

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Leg_VosCloneComicCarded_TN.jpg)
Commander Faie & Quinlon Vos

Head on out to our front page to check them out.  These should be out here in the semi-near future.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: MetalJedi on October 21, 2008, 01:26 AM
Definitely picking up the Vos set.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on October 21, 2008, 02:20 AM
Yeah the Vos set is a no-brainer...  I'm torn on the DE set though.  I like Palps but not Luke so much.  I'll probably buy it, but I'm definitely becoming more selective.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 21, 2008, 09:12 AM
I opened up the Imperial Knights set last night. Awesome figures. I wish they'd make the female one now.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 21, 2008, 09:30 AM
I opened up the Imperial Knights set last night. Awesome figures. I wish they'd make the female one now.

I agree, this set is excellent. Articulation is great, sculpt is awesome. I bought 3 sets of this. the extra two for headswaps. I've got enough rebel troopers and such that a headswap should be easy. I totally agree that we need the female version of the Imp Knights as well.


As far as the Vos and EU Palps sets go, I'll get the Vos set for sure. I'm not all that into the EU set. I"ll wait to see better pics and ones that explain the articulation to determine if I'm going to buy it. For now I'm thinking no on the Palps/Luke set though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on October 21, 2008, 12:05 PM
definite on both sets.  Probably trade out the legs on Luke w/Vader legs, that stance is rediculous.  Let's give him artic. knees & ankle but spread his legs out so far that he's doing splits  >:(.  I'll use Palps as a young Darth Sids.  I know the skin/hair color follows the comics but I think it'd be better if he were more normal ala Palps/Sids from TPM.

Vos/Faie what can be said Jedi + Clone=cool - artic. knees on uber cool Jedi character = custom
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on October 21, 2008, 12:10 PM
I like the Vos and Faie pack.  I'm not so big on the Dark Empire pack.  How close is the Faie Figure to the Kashyyyk Trooper we got in 30AC, and then repacked in the GH line for Legacy?  The helmet is removable, right?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on October 21, 2008, 12:13 PM
I like the Vos and Faie pack.  I'm not so big on the Dark Empire pack.  How close is the Faie Figure to the Kashyyyk Trooper we got in 30AC, and then repacked in the GH line for Legacy?  The helmet is removable, right?

Yup, that's why the lens look so damn huge.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 23, 2008, 09:21 AM
Opened the Talon/Skywalker set last night. Well made figures and I have to admit I got enthused about them after starting to read the comic issue that came with the knights set.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on October 23, 2008, 11:38 AM
I received the Talon Karrde/Grand Admiral Thrawn and Prince Xizor/Princess Leia comic packs yesterday, and I think they're pretty nice sets.  I have to admit that I haven't yet read the whole SOTE/Prince Xizor storyline, but his figure is pretty well done.  The Leia is just so-so, nothing too exciting to me really.

The Heir to the Empire pack, on the other hand, is a real winner in my opinion.  I never had the previous Thrawn, and was waiting for this one, and I think its a great figure overall.  Just how I pictured him when reading the books.  Talon Karrde is very well done too.  I guess, aside from a few comics, that the Thrawn Trilogy is really the only EU I've read (and really enjoyed) so that may be why I like this set so much.  I hope we see some more comic packs based on this storyline in the future.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 24, 2008, 09:18 AM
Opened up the Leia/Dala pack. Eh. They're okay.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on October 24, 2008, 09:23 AM
I like Mandos, and like the two sculpts, but when I saw the two Marvel Mando packs at Target I just couldn't buy them.  I thought people were being a bit harsh saying they looked terrible, but they kinda do.  If they repainted these, the way they toned down the Luke and Han as Stormtrooper packs, I might revisit getting these, but as of right now I am not getting those two.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 26, 2008, 10:30 AM
I opened up the other Mandalorian set yesterday, the one with the purple Dengar. Nice Mandalorian, but the purple Dengar is just ridiculous. I always enjoy the comics though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on October 26, 2008, 09:31 PM
I opened up the other Mandalorian set yesterday, the one with the purple Dengar. Nice Mandalorian, but the purple Dengar is just ridiculous. I always enjoy the comics though.

I kind of like the purple Dengar.  The Marvel figures are neon-bright, but I kind of like that versus the more subdued colors we normally get.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 27, 2008, 09:18 AM
In my continuing effort to get through my "to open" pile, I finally got to the Anakin/Durge, asajj/Korr packs. Both are well Done. Sometime I think the put more effort into the comic pack figures than they do the basic figures. Sometimes.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on October 27, 2008, 09:32 AM
While I can't say that any of the comic packs have been particularly "hot sellers" around here lately, these recent Marvel packs are really sitting around here.  I haven't had any particular trouble finding the other ones either, but I think the same peg or so of these Marvel packs have been at Target, WM, and TRU for quite some time now.  Personally, I don't mind them as much as some people do (although non neon colored packs would be better), but it doesn't seem like they are particularly good sellers regardless.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on November 6, 2008, 02:52 PM
I found the 4 new ones today... I only one that I wish I wasn't buying was the one with repainted Vader and Leia with a new gun.

Some of these are pretty decent value, but the Marvel ones flat out suck and I wish Hasbro would stop making them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 6, 2008, 04:00 PM
Quote
Some of these are pretty decent value, but the Marvel ones flat out suck and I wish Hasbro would stop making them.

Agreed, and they're always the "pegwarmer" of their wave around here while DH stuff usually moves significantly faster.

The last wave I saw were Talon/Skywalker and Imperial Knights sets...  Besides those, what's the next wave made up of actually?  Is that the DE set with Luke/Palpatine, the white Vader/Leia, or what?  I'm kinda confused on what's out and what isn't as far as comics go these days.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on November 6, 2008, 09:55 PM
This is the next wave, hitting stores now...

(http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/images/products/out/large/HAS15760.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on November 6, 2008, 11:45 PM
Those are the 4 I found today - for what it's worth, it was at TRU.  The Karde/Thrawn set is really nice.  I think the Xizor is a fantastic figure too.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 7, 2008, 09:13 AM
for what it's worth, it was at TRU. 


Good to know. I haven't seen hide nor hair at Target. I can hit a TRU on my way to work.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 7, 2008, 10:25 PM
EE had this case two months ago with every new comic pack minus the two Marvel ones, it's funny they are hitting stores now. I thought these packs were old news, The outside of the Vaders these were really nice sets.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on November 7, 2008, 11:16 PM
for what it's worth, it was at TRU. 


Good to know. I haven't seen hide nor hair at Target. I can hit a TRU on my way to work.

We are finding them all around Target stores in the Minneapolis area.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: DoctorPadawan on November 8, 2008, 03:57 PM
I saw three of the four of the new wave at both Target and TRU yesterday.  Target had one Thrawn/Karrde pack (which I grabbed, as it was the only one I wanted) and two SOTE packs, and TRU had one Vader/Tractor Man set and three SOTE packs (no Thrawn/Karrde).  No sign of that white Vader/Leia set at either, so I'm thinking that someone with really bad taste decided to buy them all up in my area (I am not going to complain about that). :)

So the Vos/Faie and Horrible Story Idea Palpatine vs. EEEEEEvil Luke are the next wave?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on November 8, 2008, 05:55 PM
So the Vos/Faie and Horrible Story Idea Palpatine vs. EEEEEEvil Luke are the next wave?

Yep, those are Wave 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504K) (due in December). 

Then comes Wave 5 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504L) with the Borsk/Wedge, NinjaLuke/Deena, and Ki-Adi/Hett sets from a few pages back.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 9, 2008, 09:07 AM
Finally scored wave 3 and opened the Tracta set last night. Tracta is an interesting and cool figure.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 10, 2008, 09:18 AM
Opened the remainder of the set up yesterday. Overall, not bad. All the figures are well done, except for the Vader re-pack. It's cool to have the upgrades on Thrawn and Xixor.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: knashdx on November 12, 2008, 12:21 PM
So far I have snagged 2 of everything except the Leia/Xizor & Thrawn/Karrde sets. I will grab those soon enought, but not in a rush.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 18, 2008, 09:59 PM
So far I have snagged 2 of everything except the Leia/Xizor & Thrawn/Karrde sets. I will grab those soon enought, but not in a rush.

I wouldn't be in a rush with the Leia/Xizor set - so far, that's all I've seen of this wave at retail.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 19, 2008, 09:20 AM
I've seen remnants of these all over at Targets now. Seems Trachta is the one that goes first.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on November 20, 2008, 11:54 AM
I found three of these sets. Still need the White Vader set.

I bought two of the Thrawn/Kardde set.

I'm using the second set for customs. That Thrawn figure is excellent. THAT is how all of the Imp officers should have been done.

Now if Hasbro would just reuse the mold in olive drab and grey, then reissue it with different ranks (commander, captain, LT), we'd be set.

One thing I REALLY wish Hasbro would do is be CONSISTENT with the head "balls." It would make it immensely easier for quick head swaps. At least in the case of human/close humanoid male figures who don't where helmets. All those heads are relatively the same size, so the neck posts should be as well.

Just my two cents.

Oh an trachta IS cool. But no knee articulation...bad Hasbro, bad!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2008, 11:26 AM
Actually the uniform (the body at least) isn't accurate for Imp. Officers in the films...  It's great otherwise though, and really the arms/legs are perfect for, hopefully, some generic army building officers down the road...  I'd especially like to see some in black at some point, beyond the guy in the Endor pack we just got.

But yeah, THrawn's good except the torso is all...  I didn't recall his character's outfit opening in the middle in drawings of him, but whatever.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on November 21, 2008, 01:28 PM
I just chalk that up to him being a Grand Admiral, nicer/different uniform.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on November 21, 2008, 01:34 PM
Oh an trachta IS cool. But no knee articulation...bad Hasbro, bad!

If you have a spare TAC Death Star Trooper, you can do an easy no-paint-kit-bash with Trachta, and make him look a little more Imperial too.  Only takes about thirty seconds to do!

(http://chewie34.250free.com/111708trachta.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Sprry75 on November 23, 2008, 02:40 PM
The Leia from the Xizor pack has my vote as the biggest hunk of **** ever.

Way worse than monkey Leia.

That thing looks like a midget made from room temperature sculpy.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on November 23, 2008, 03:01 PM
The Leia from the Xizor pack has my vote as the biggest hunk of **** ever.

Way worse than monkey Leia.

That thing looks like a midget made from room temperature sculpy.

What's sad is that Hasbro can sculpt excellent figures like Padme or Ahsoka which have petite physiques, but Leia looks like she packing 20 extra pounds of water weight in her cankles. Plus, she has those horse**** preposed arms. They easily could have repainted the arms from Fireside Padme (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/tac/56.html) to polish this turd a little bit.

The 80's Jane Fonda/Olivia Newton John attire doesn't do much for her either. Throw some leg warmers on there and douse her in water and we'll have the perfect Flashdance figure.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on November 23, 2008, 09:15 PM
The Leia from the Xizor pack has my vote as the biggest hunk of **** ever.

Way worse than monkey Leia.

That thing looks like a midget made from room temperature sculpy.

What's sad is that Hasbro can sculpt excellent figures like Padme or Ahsoka which have petite physiques, but Leia looks like she packing 20 extra pounds of water weight in her cankles. Plus, she has those horse**** preposed arms. They easily could have repainted the arms from Fireside Padme (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/tac/56.html) to polish this turd a little bit.

The 80's Jane Fonda/Olivia Newton John attire doesn't do much for her either. Throw some leg warmers on there and douse her in water and we'll have the perfect Flashdance figure.

I'm hugely dissapointed in that Leia figure.  I know they are comic packs and sometimes articulation/sculpting is limited due to cost, but the "skin" parts actually look thicker than the "clothed" parts, which is a little ridiculous.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2008, 12:29 AM
I picked up Grandma's Tractor comic pack set (well technically it was picked up for me).  It's a nice set but Grandma's Tractor needed more articulationf or sure, especially considering you're getting dicked over by another Vader figure (that you own 3000 of already).  No knee joints blows on that figure.

I'm probably going to get a 2nd set to customizing just like CHEWIE did...  I don't mind the sculpt by any means, but the lack of articulation there just sucks so badly, and seems to me that Hasbro fed us a total line of bull**** on "increasing articulation with the price hike" on the comic sets.  Some are great, others...  Not so much.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: knashdx on November 24, 2008, 11:51 AM
Oh an trachta IS cool. But no knee articulation...bad Hasbro, bad!

Try swapping the leg sections for other Imperials with his. I have not looked myself, but they might be work.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on November 24, 2008, 12:15 PM
Oh an trachta IS cool. But no knee articulation...bad Hasbro, bad!

Try swapping the leg sections for other Imperials with his. I have not looked myself, but they might be work.

Look up six posts  ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on November 24, 2008, 12:53 PM
I agree Jesse, the Vader in this set is a kick in the nuts.  If they needed to do a repack to justify their costs, it would have been nice to see a Stormtrooper instead.

And there are some great sets in the Comic Pack line, but I'm getting fed up with any figures these days not having knee articulation... looking around the line, there's some good figures that could have been a lot better had Hasbro added some movement to the knees.  Mon Cal Warrior, Quarren Soldier, and a lot of Clone Wars figures come to mind.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: ruiner on November 24, 2008, 01:33 PM
Still looking for a white Vader if someone has an extra they don't want...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2008, 01:53 PM
Travis,

I'll get you on that...  I sorta wanted Leia, but not the white Vader, so if you want we'll split the set and I'll send you the white Vader?  Just PM me to let me know if it's a deal and include your addy so I can just ship it out as soon as I find one.  Was on the fence about the set and you're helping me cave to get the Leia. ;D

CHEWIE, yeah I am disappointed in Trachta only because they SAID they were increasing the price to make articulation more conistant, and then they bailed on that basically.  When you get that Vader, again, for the umpteenth time, the figure is 100% profit to Hasbro practically, so was tooling some articulation in the knees really that hard?  >:(  That is the kinda stuff that reminds me that Hasbro can and will dick you over.

The CW wave was pretty great and I liked those warriors, but I agree...  And again I feel some "neutral" posed feet WITHOUT ankle articulation is the way to go, so you get the knee joints.

The trainee Clone from last year is a case of how Hasbro can truly dick you over on no ankle articulation but knee articulation.  If they sculpt the ankles flat/neutral though, and give the knee joints, the figure works out fine I've found.  Trachta is a prime example though of lacking knees hurting an otherwise outstanding figure...  While I like those CW troopers, they too are the weakest of their wave due to this point.

At least Trachta is an easy enough fix I guess.

There are amazing comic packs though, so credit where it's due...  The Imp Knights set, and I think the storyline is lame even, is outstanding...  But really again they got twice the use out of the mold tooling basically.  The Leia/White Vader set is practically gravy for them.  All those lame Marvel sets are gravy for them.  And they do love to repack repack repack in the comic line making up all those "costs" of new toolings, not to mention I don't look at the comic packs and think they're much more of a value than basic figures, at least not anymore.

Ah well, at least there's a lot of good, just that there's equal bad with the comic line...  I find the basic line to be much better overall than it had been since really 2005.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on November 24, 2008, 05:43 PM
scored me Luke/Emp at Target. 3 Peg full of Imp Knights, the Mando twins, even a Swan set and right in front in all it's glory Luke/Emporer. Haven't opened yet literally just got back from lunch/Target and am back at work. Luke wide stance is about the same as the 30AC Rebel Sentry/Endor Vanguard so it's not too bad, but that capes got to go. Didn't realize it before but it's a DE2 comic that it comes with. Lukes face looks old, but that just might be the mold or just mine. The one from the Evo looks better.


Side note they had the Yoda Cruscant/Obi 212th packs on a end cap under the Joe UBH display with 2 clones from each pack missing, about 5 pack total.  I thought to myself that it seemed wierd and I could've sworn that there were 4 clones per pack.  Antway walked over to the actual SW isle, where I found my comic pack  :grin:, and there was a Yoda pack with all 4 clones.  I walked back over to the endcap low and behold same pack.  I told a CS girl that happened to be walking by, at first I don't think she believed me but when I showed her the other box that had all the clones in it she was "Oh my gosh" like. 

All that and I originally went in there for ant spray.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2008, 06:08 PM
Quote
Luke wide stance is about the same as the 30AC Rebel Sentry/Endor Vanguard so it's not too bad

That sounds fixable with a boil and freeze then...  Thanks jp.  I'm less disappointed in that then.  I'd like to see the wide stances end, but that seems unlikely at this point in time with Hasbro.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 24, 2008, 06:59 PM
3 Peg full of Imp Knights, the Mando twins, even a Swan set and right in front in all it's glory Luke/Emporer.

I'm sorry, but a "Swan set"? huh?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2008, 08:29 PM
Bultar Swan and the mohawk guy with the hole in his chest.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 2, 2008, 09:28 AM
Cracked open the Faie set last night, finally. Great job on both figures. Setting aside the lack of articulation on Vos's legs, his sculpting is superb. I'll agree with everyone else that Faie's helmet is too big, but one really can't export more from a removable helmet.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 2, 2008, 11:57 AM
Cracked open the Faie set last night, finally. Great job on both figures. Setting aside the lack of articulation on Vos's legs, his sculpting is superb. I'll agree with everyone else that Faie's helmet is too big, but one really can't export more from a removable helmet.

Hmmm I have to hunt for that pack today thanks for reminds me!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on December 2, 2008, 06:32 PM
Cracked open the Faie set last night, finally. Great job on both figures. Setting aside the lack of articulation on Vos's legs, his sculpting is superb. I'll agree with everyone else that Faie's helmet is too big, but one really can't export more from a removable helmet.

I've heard Hasbro say on a couple of occassions that they're faced with something of a challenge regarding removable helmets.  Apparently there's something of a disconnect between the design stage and the production stage.  The tolerances are pretty tight to get a removable helmet to sit just right.  And when a prototype makes it to the production stage even a small variation in either the size of the production head or the helmet can lead to the helmets either being loose or tight.  Perhaps this is why the Clone Wars Obi-Wan has that switchable head/helmet instead of a helmet that fits over the head.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on December 2, 2008, 06:47 PM
All the more reason to have interchangeable heads across all figures if possible. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on December 2, 2008, 07:05 PM
I actually prefer removable helmets...  I think Faie's looks perfectly fine, but that's me.  Maybe it matters less with visored helmets, but usually I prefer displaying the character holding the helmet in his arms instead of on him, and a removable helmet just looks better to me than a second head in the figure's arms. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on December 2, 2008, 07:49 PM
I'd feel the same way Jesse, if Hasbro could figure out a better way to not make poofy helmets... case in point, last year's TAC Stormtrooper and a few various clone commanders.  The helmets (and often the paint jobs as a result) are terrible looking compared to their non-removable counterparts... at least in my opinion. 

(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tac/legends/clonecommander/head.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tsc/064/head.jpg)

But you're right, Faie's isn't bad at all.  Neither was Cody's, because they shrunk his head down to accommodate a tighter sculpt.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 3, 2008, 12:06 AM
 
I'd feel the same way Jesse, if Hasbro could figure out a better way to not make poofy helmets... case in point, last year's TAC Stormtrooper and a few various clone commanders.  The helmets (and often the paint jobs as a result) are terrible looking compared to their non-removable counterparts... at least in my opinion.
But you're right, Faie's isn't bad at all.  Neither was Cody's, because they shrunk his head down to accommodate a tighter sculpt.


Also Gree, if you compare his none removable helmet variant & removable helmet, it looks close the same.


BTW: I love that camo Faie...well done at last.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Picture1099_a.jpg
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on December 3, 2008, 01:18 PM
Hasbro can do it.  Don't know how many here are Joe collectors, I'm not really one, but I couldn't pass up the Cobra Parajumper.  I was totally surprised the helmet was removable and it was a harder plastic instead of the gummy plastic used on the clones.  And as mentioned above Faie, Cody, and even Baron Fel have great helmets.  I'd even go as far as the Airborne Trooper.  Hopefully with the Ultimate Uber Articulated Clone we'll get a better helmet too.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 3, 2008, 01:25 PM
Compare helmets... The Commander's helmet look better without the pauldrons... But I dunno what is the problem... the pauldron or head/helmet?

Man... i love this group!

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/VosvsFaie_B.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Picture1101.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on December 3, 2008, 03:41 PM
I personally despise the removable helmet they made for Gree.  A removable head makes more sense to me.

Good point on the Airborne Trooper purge... and the Para Viper too.  I picked that up and it's fantastic.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 3, 2008, 04:28 PM
I personally despise the removable helmet they made for Gree.  A removable head makes more sense to me.

Good point on the Airborne Trooper purge... and the Para Viper too.  I picked that up and it's fantastic.

I think diferent... I like a remov... helmet cus, u dont have to get worry of losing it, apart of how it looks, also its as it should be, not having an extra head for it, its a no no for me hehe.

Also I think the Airborne helms are too loose, easy to fall, but dunno if you meant its looks or how it fit to the head.

PS: Gree is one of the coolest clone man... great helmet 2 ( the real one)----->
(^_~)
=================================

BTW Aha!...Ok... I see now.

The winner of th' Smallest head is/are:

#1) Cody & Faie

#2) Ears covered Clones/Boba/Stormclone trooper

#3) the rest.

Bust still those with pauldrons still look better without it.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Picture1111_a.jpg
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 4, 2008, 10:02 AM
Okay so I found three different sets last night.

Commander Faie/Quinlan Vos: Faie is a decent figure. Articulation is certainly there. His camo pattern is different from the previous releases (as seen in some of the pics above). I'm not sure if I like that or not. It does make it easy to pick him out of the bunch so I know who he is, but that is also a problem in that he should blend with the rest of the group. Still overall good marks for the figure. I'm just surprised they'd have TWO Faie's on the pegs right now-the single carded Engineer helmet one and this Camo scout trooper version. Vos, hmm, well, the sculpt is excellent. waist up it's an excellent figure. But the real DOWNER here is the complete lack of knee AND ankle articulation. Really, is it all THAT hard to ask for knee joints? I'm of the group that prefers knee over ankle joints if we had to choose. So because of this, the figure is only marginally good. Knee and ankle joints would have put this into the MUST BUY category. If you're on the fence about this pack, I'd say save your money. If you're a clone and/or Jedi collector, then most definitely pick it up.

Clone Emperor/Luke: I haven't yet opened this one up yet, so I can't comment on articulation. However I can say that upon getting home and taking this out of the shopping bag that I immediately had buyer's remorse. Did I really NEED these figures? The Emperor clone looks cool, but Luke....will Hasbro EVER get him right? I'm seriously considering taking this set back. If I see a review with pics of this set open, showing it's articulation, I might change my mind. In the meantime, it stays carded.

White Vader/Leia: Other than not having the patience to find a well painted version, I'm happy I got this set. I haven't opened it up yet either, however, after seeing the white Vader in the comics, I KNEW I wanted one. Leia is an after thought to me. I'll prolly pull the sniper from her and give it to one of the Endor Rebel troopers.


So what I have here is one decent set Faie/Vos, one unneeded impulse buy set Emperor/Luke, and one long desired and okay set Vader/Leia.

Hasbro didn't really knock any of these out of the park and as such I can see this wave sitting. Thankfully it has come out now during the holiday shopping season, so we should see these clear from the pegs.

-Sal
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: EpicGon on December 4, 2008, 12:26 PM
Comic Pack from Rebellion 3 is excellent

Luke and Deena in saboteur outfit will be a must for my collection.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on December 4, 2008, 02:22 PM
I personally despise the removable helmet they made for Gree.  A removable head makes more sense to me.

Good point on the Airborne Trooper purge... and the Para Viper too.  I picked that up and it's fantastic.

Ya Chewie but compared to gummy Commanders/ARC/Phase I helmets Gree is top notch.  At least Gree's not walking around with puffy cheeks.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 4, 2008, 03:22 PM
Well Jedi_Master

I haven't opened my Luke/Palpatine's comic pack either....

You maight be looking at a Luke's face sculpt from a young looking comic perpesctive.... To me I like it as it look here, cus this is from much later events, he should look more older than in Return of the Jedi episode....If you look for an accurate Luke looking, get the 30th Ann_ Return of the Jedi Luke with black clothe...the one that come with the Bone when he fought the Rancor...Thats an amazing figure.
Perhaps its possible to suitch heads with the comic one.

That Luke with his father's sith suit its a must have!!!!.... Indeed!
<----- I thought he burned it along with Vader's corpse lol
I can't tell if Palpatine is fully articulated...these series of comic pack tends to be that way: one fig is fully articulated while the 2nd is not, save some....

I want to find that white Darth Vader Comic pack (PS:You guys dont mind to have a figure from a non cannon story like in this pack of Vader... right?...probably not lol) 

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/LukePalpatine.jpg

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on December 4, 2008, 03:37 PM
What's the blue/purple blob that is coming out of the puzzle box?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 4, 2008, 04:02 PM
What's the blue/purple blob that is coming out of the puzzle box?

It's a Jedi Master coming out of a holocron.

If I'm not mistaken it's Bodo Baas.

See here for more info: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bodo_Baas

-Sal
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 4, 2008, 04:17 PM
It is.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on December 4, 2008, 04:59 PM
What's the blue/purple blob that is coming out of the puzzle box?

It's basically a Jedi Magic 8-Ball.  :)  He answers your Jedi questions like, "Does Yoda like me?", or "Am I going to kill all the younglings in a Sith-induced rage?" and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 4, 2008, 08:02 PM
It's basically a Jedi Magic 8-Ball.  :)  He answers your Jedi questions like, "Does Yoda like me?", or "Am I going to kill all the younglings in a Sith-induced rage?" and stuff like that.

At first I thought that...it was the "Cube" from Transformers lol  ;D.... I said: what tha heck!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on December 4, 2008, 08:07 PM
What the heck indeed.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on December 4, 2008, 08:51 PM
Both Luke and Palpatine are articulated very highly, and are very good figures.  Palpatine is a bit disturbing in his damn near nudity though.  I might try and snap some loose pics this evening.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Ryan on December 4, 2008, 09:14 PM
I had always assumed that Palpy was just going to be a modded Evolutions version. That's nice to hear it is all new.

What comic packs are in these new waves? Is it just the Vos/Faie and Luke/Palpy, or are the Wedge/Bothan, Ki-Adi/Hett, and the Luke/Deena sets included too?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on December 4, 2008, 09:28 PM
What comic packs are in these new waves? Is it just the Vos/Faie and Luke/Palpy, or are the Wedge/Bothan, Ki-Adi/Hett, and the Luke/Deena sets included too?

Wave 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504K)
1x Legacy #2 with Darth Talon and Cade Skywalker
1x Shadows of the Empire #5 with Princess Leia and Prince Xizor
1x Heir to the Empire #1 with Grand Admiral Thrawn and Talon Karrde
1x Infinities ROTJ #3/4 with Darth Vader (White) and Princess Leia (Sniper)
2x Dark Empire II #1 with Clone Emperor and Luke Skywalker
2x Republic #82 with Commander Faie and Quinlan Vos

and

Wave 5 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504L)
1x Asajj Ventress and Tol Skorr
1x Anakin Skywalker and Durge
1x Legacy #6 with Antares Draco and Ganner Krieg
1x Dark Empire II #1 with Clone Emperor and Luke Skywalker
1x X-Wing Rogue Squadron #32 with Borsk Fey'la and Wedge Antilles (Academy Outfit)
1x Rebellion #3 with Luke Skywalker and Deena (Stealth Armor)
1x Republic #82 with Commander Faie and Quinlan Vos
1x Outlander #TBD with Ki-Adi Mundi and Sharad Hett
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on December 4, 2008, 09:42 PM

Wave 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504K)
1x Legacy #2 with Darth Talon and Cade Skywalker
1x Shadows of the Empire #5 with Princess Leia and Prince Xizor
1x Heir to the Empire #1 with Grand Admiral Thrawn and Talon Karrde
1x Infinities ROTJ #3/4 with Darth Vader (White) and Princess Leia (Sniper)
2x Dark Empire II #1 with Clone Emperor and Luke Skywalker
2x Republic #82 with Commander Faie and Quinlan Vos

I found this case at Toys R Us this evening.  Only one Clone Emperor left, but that is definitely a sweet pack!  My only complaint is a cloth robe for Emperor and a plastic robe for Luke - looks silly to me in the same package.  They should have stuck with one or the other for both.  The Vos set is nice too.  I don't like the deco on Faie, but Vos is well detailed (straight legs though).   ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Ryan on December 4, 2008, 10:05 PM
Thanks Jayson. :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 5, 2008, 09:13 AM

Wave 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504K)
1x Legacy #2 with Darth Talon and Cade Skywalker
1x Shadows of the Empire #5 with Princess Leia and Prince Xizor
1x Heir to the Empire #1 with Grand Admiral Thrawn and Talon Karrde
1x Infinities ROTJ #3/4 with Darth Vader (White) and Princess Leia (Sniper)
2x Dark Empire II #1 with Clone Emperor and Luke Skywalker
2x Republic #82 with Commander Faie and Quinlan Vos


Another head scratching case. Why Talon/Cade rather than Vader/Tractha?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 5, 2008, 09:42 AM
The Vos is a cool figure but it is a shame the used the same bottom skirt/legs on him. I found 1 set of each to my surprise on a random Target trip. The paint jobs on both sets were surprisingly good. I am a bit puzzled at the new and very inaccurate saber choices in the Dark Empire sets.....this would have been a perfect time to do a new accurate ROTJ Luke saber as featured on the cover of the comic.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 5, 2008, 11:43 AM
Voses...

Its true that Vos will be a central figure in the saga of 2010-11?...if so these Voses will have more Value.. maybe like DArth Revan?

Personaly... I look like him lol...I will like to be in that Saga as an extra!  :)



BTW: The sleeves Vos fig, shouldn't have a holdster...but heck I like it.

 
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Picture1103_a.jpg
(http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/253/picture1103aiq5.th.jpg) (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1103aiq5.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 5, 2008, 01:12 PM
I got too curious so I opened the packs... my camera is cheap so, forgive the "Q"

Points"

1) Dark Luke: Head is look a bit big, after u take the jacket off, so I make a test with ROTJ Luke's head, though it doesn't fit in Luke's Dark Neck, but look better---->  http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Picture1117.jpg

2) Jackedless Luke/showing Palpy articulations-----> http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Picture1113.jpg

3) luke & Palpy variants----> http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Picture1119.jpg


Rating:

1) The coolest fig is Clone Palpy from th' comic pack...but I still like the Luke very much as its.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on December 5, 2008, 02:03 PM
Palpatine is a bit disturbing in his damn near nudity though. 

He's just one sexy B@%$&*.  If you'd been living in the body of a deformed 90 year old man and jumped into the body of a 20/30 ish year old you'd be showin' off too.  :P

I'll be displaying Vader, DE Luke, and Cade all together.  Just something looks cool with all the armor and the similarity in the shin guards.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Ryan on December 5, 2008, 05:54 PM
Voses...

Its true that Vos will be a central figure in the saga of 2010-11?...if so these Voses will have more Value.. maybe like DArth Revan?

Personaly... I look like him lol...I will like to be in that Saga as an extra!  :)

Huh? What SAGAs of 2010-2011?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: David on December 5, 2008, 06:41 PM
Voses...

Its true that Vos will be a central figure in the saga of 2010-11?...if so these Voses will have more Value.. maybe like DArth Revan?

Personaly... I look like him lol...I will like to be in that Saga as an extra!  :)

Huh? What SAGAs of 2010-2011?

Perhaps he means the upcoming live action TV series? ???
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 5, 2008, 08:15 PM
Perhaps he means the upcoming live action TV series? ???

I think that's what he means too, but he has a question at the end, so I think he's asking: "Is it true that Vos will be a central figure in the saga in 2010-11?"

So the answer to his question is: "No, the prevailing rumor is that it will be about young Boba Fett"

I think that's the prevailing rumor at the moment, someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JangoTat on December 5, 2008, 08:21 PM
Perhaps he means the upcoming live action TV series? ???

I think that's what he means too, but he has a question at the end, so I think he's asking: "Is it true that Vos will be a central figure in the saga in 2010-11?"

So the answer to his question is: "No, the prevailing rumor is that it will be about young Boba Fett"

I think that's the prevailing rumor at the moment, someone can correct me if I'm wrong.


I dont know if it will revolve around Boba but he is supposed to be a lead character. in terms of Vos I doubt it as it has already been stated that no Jedi,Sith, or skywalkers will be in the series.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 8, 2008, 02:33 PM
I recently picked up the Grand Admiral Thrawn/Tallon Kerrde pack and the Cade Skywalker/Darth Tallon pack.

I like the figures overall...if Darth Tallon had articulated elbows it would be a perfect figure!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2008, 01:24 PM
A possible "Lt. 'Tank' Sunber" proto/test shot, and another Officer who I'm not familiar with just by looking at him.  I see some shared parts, not all being good ones, but at least they're actually articulated and will look cool in action poses.  Also, removable hats!  Can't beat that with a stick!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_ImpOfficer1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_ImpOfficer2_TN.jpg)

Head on our to our front page to check them out if you so desire.  I'm geeked to get a figure of "Tank", so it's nice to see he'll be a nice poseable army builder too, for the most part.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2008, 01:50 PM
Got a coulpe more to add...  It's (or at least it appears to me to be)  Luke & Deena Shan in Stealth Armor.  This pack's due out before too long.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Leg_ComicLukeArmor_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_ComicShanArmor_TN.jpg)

Head on our to the front page to check them both out.  Very cool looking on both accounts.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 9, 2008, 03:18 PM
A possible "Lt. 'Tank' Sunber" proto/test shot, and another Officer who I'm not familiar with just by looking at him.  I see some shared parts, not all being good ones, but at least they're actually articulated and will look cool in action poses.  Also, removable hats!  Can't beat that with a stick!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_ImpOfficer1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_ImpOfficer2_TN.jpg)

Head on our to our front page to check them out if you so desire.  I'm geeked to get a figure of "Tank", so it's nice to see he'll be a nice poseable army builder too, for the most part.

It appears the one on the right uses some DS Trooper parts, look at the legs and the skirt, it screams TAC DST! They look pretty sweet. I jut wish LT. Sunbar was not dirty so he would blend in better to dioramas.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on December 9, 2008, 03:24 PM
A possible "Lt. 'Tank' Sunber" proto/test shot, and another Officer who I'm not familiar with just by looking at him.  I see some shared parts, not all being good ones, but at least they're actually articulated and will look cool in action poses.  Also, removable hats!  Can't beat that with a stick!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_ImpOfficer1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_ImpOfficer2_TN.jpg)

Head on our to our front page to check them out if you so desire.  I'm geeked to get a figure of "Tank", so it's nice to see he'll be a nice poseable army builder too, for the most part.
I can't recall his name, but is that other figure perhaps the General from To the Last Man (or whatever was the name of that comic where tank and an imperial column fight off Amanimen (sp?) ).  Anyway, that's my guess of who it is.

It appears to use some DS Trooper parts, look at the legs and the skirt, it screams TAC DST! They look pretty sweet. I jut wish LT. Sunbar was not dirty so he would blend in better to dioramas.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on December 10, 2008, 01:52 AM
Got a coulpe more to add...  It's (or at least it appears to me to be)  Luke & Deena Shan in Stealth Armor.  This pack's due out before too long.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Leg_ComicLukeArmor_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/08Proto_ComicShanArmor_TN.jpg)

Head on our to the front page to check them both out.  Very cool looking on both accounts.

  In case u didn't  see it before.......ps: I have other comic pack's pictures

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/LukeDeenaShan.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Kladi-MundiSharadHett.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/WedgeAntillesBosrkFeylya.jpg)


Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 10, 2008, 09:07 AM
Thanks for the the Pix Theta.

Yeah, not to sure about the re-use of DST parts on that officer, but it'll be nice to have fully articulated one.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: knashdx on February 12, 2009, 11:16 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/LukeDeenaShan.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/Kladi-MundiSharadHett.jpg) (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/WedgeAntillesBosrkFeylya.jpg)





This set is out - I ordered 2 of each set from my Comic Book place today.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on February 12, 2009, 12:32 PM
Thanks for the tip - I ordered them from my comic place too.   ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: knashdx on February 12, 2009, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the tip - I ordered them from my comic place too.   ;D


I bet they will see a run on these figures today! After all a bunch of us get our swag from the same place.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on February 12, 2009, 02:17 PM
This set is out - I ordered 2 of each set from my Comic Book place today.

Oh! I see, you guys ordered when is online relase but not yet on stores....I wonder, I was going to get sithtaki & plan to move from my crappy State  ;D

But still, seems that we get the stocks late.

Good for ya, more Jedtsies & look great.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 12, 2009, 02:33 PM
Thanks for the tip - I ordered them from my comic place too.   ;D

I got these three sets 2 weeks ago from the outerrimcollectibles. (It's an ecrater store and it's great!)
I have to say that they are nothing special or nothing you would not miss from these sets. They are not bad by any means but they are not that exciting either.

After years of waiting for a Bothan I cannot help but think it looks like something out of The Dark Crystal. It's a pretty dumb alien.

FYI - The Wedge has the Training Clone legs, a popular craptastic favorite of Hasbro lately. The headsculpt is really nice and it will give you a preview of whats to come in the upcoming overpriced X-Wing set which I am prepared to bend over and buy.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 13, 2009, 09:13 AM
In stores, it seems everyone have found the Wedge and Ki packs, but not the Luke/Deena one so far.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on February 13, 2009, 09:18 AM
In stores, it seems everyone have found the Wedge and Ki packs, but not the Luke/Deena one so far.

I haven't heard too much about anyone finding any of these in store.  What retailer are they showing up at?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: knashdx on February 13, 2009, 09:26 AM
In stores, it seems everyone have found the Wedge and Ki packs, but not the Luke/Deena one so far.

I haven't heard too much about anyone finding any of these in store.  What retailer are they showing up at?

In a western state that has a worst budget crisis than MN.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 13, 2009, 09:29 AM
In stores, it seems everyone have found the Wedge and Ki packs, but not the Luke/Deena one so far.

I haven't heard too much about anyone finding any of these in store.  What retailer are they showing up at?

TRU, but I just read in our recent purchase thread that people have found this set, however, they didn't indicate where.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on February 13, 2009, 10:21 AM
FYI - The Wedge has the Training Clone legs, a popular craptastic favorite of Hasbro lately. The headsculpt is really nice and it will give you a preview of whats to come in the upcoming overpriced X-Wing set which I am prepared to bend over and buy.

Some of the worst legs they've produced in the last 5 or 6 years.  I can't get any figure with those legs to stand up.  If they'd just articulated the ankles it'd have been fine, but noooooooooo.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: David on February 13, 2009, 10:31 AM
FYI - The Wedge has the Training Clone legs, a popular craptastic favorite of Hasbro lately.

What the ****? That's ridiculous! >:(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 13, 2009, 11:49 AM
FYI - The Wedge has the Training Clone legs, a popular craptastic favorite of Hasbro lately. The headsculpt is really nice and it will give you a preview of whats to come in the upcoming overpriced X-Wing set which I am prepared to bend over and buy.

Some of the worst legs they've produced in the last 5 or 6 years.  I can't get any figure with those legs to stand up.  If they'd just articulated the ankles it'd have been fine, but noooooooooo.

I actually would have no problem with old school straight legs with no articulation over those. At least it would be able to stand on it's own. The head sculpt is very nice but Wedge in this outfit is really, really useless. For a newly tooled figure(minus the legs) I cannot understand why they wasted their time and not chose a better character. Like say, ummm...Admiral Ackbar, Nien Numb, hell I would have even loved to see an upgraded OT Mon Mothma instead of Wedge in the galactic Waiter outfit!

I do like the new Ki Adi Mundi, he reminds me of the 70's McDonalds characters.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on February 13, 2009, 04:54 PM
"galactic Waiter outfit"

"Would you like some Grey Pupon?" in Wedge Antilles British Accent
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on February 13, 2009, 08:30 PM
I actually would have no problem with old school straight legs with no articulation over those. At least it would be able to stand on it's own.

Same here.  Given the nature of my loose collection and the way its displayed, my main criteria for legs be that the figure is able to stand well enough on them to not fall over when I close my bedroom door.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 13, 2009, 09:08 PM
I actually would have no problem with old school straight legs with no articulation over those. At least it would be able to stand on it's own.

Same here.  Given the nature of my loose collection and the way its displayed, my main criteria for legs be that the figure is able to stand well enough on them to not fall over when I close my bedroom door.

Well my friend beware of this domino figure cause he needs a stand really bad.

"galactic Waiter outfit"

"Would you like some Grey Pupon?" in Wedge Antilles British Accent

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/gwaiter3.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on February 13, 2009, 10:05 PM
Now that's funny!  I will most definitely not have what he's having...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: David on February 13, 2009, 10:21 PM
Pretty. I like the snot running down that custom's face. Even Wioslea would have to be pretty drunk to go home with that guy. ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 14, 2009, 04:11 PM
I picked up the DE Luke and Clone Emperor yesterday.  Nice figures, but a bit of a wide stance on both.

A soft-goods cloak on the Luke would have also dramatically improved the figure.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CookieeMonster on February 15, 2009, 03:04 PM
Picked up DE Luke and Clone Emperor today, was looking for ANH Wave, but at least I got these.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on February 15, 2009, 03:15 PM
I picked up the DE Luke and Clone Emperor yesterday.  Nice figures, but a bit of a wide stance on both.

Well, it is the Larry Craig edition.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 15, 2009, 04:35 PM
I'm digging the upcomming comic packs they showed at Toy Fair.

Not many that I'd decline.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2009, 01:32 AM
I'm with you...  The Katarn/Vong set is really incredibly cool looking to me, so that's one I hope to nab a couple of so I can do a Dark Forces Kyle up right.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 16, 2009, 09:57 AM
I dunno, I'm not too impressed with them. About the only figure I'm excited about is the Female Imperial Knight. The sleeveless Luke just look horrible. Don't know who the other characters are.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: David on February 16, 2009, 12:42 PM
At $15 each, it takes a lot for a comic pack to impress me enough to purchase it, and none of these do it for me. I will pick up the Amanaman guy though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 16, 2009, 02:01 PM
At $15 each, it takes a lot for a comic pack to impress me enough to purchase it, and none of these do it for me. I will pick up the Amanaman guy though.

Oddly enough, that's about the only one I'd surely pass on.

I dunno, I'm not too impressed with them. About the only figure I'm excited about is the Female Imperial Knight. The sleeveless Luke just look horrible. Don't know who the other characters are.

I'm not the biggest fan of that Luke, but the Lumiya figure makes it a buy for me.  I also like the Darth Krayt.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on February 16, 2009, 02:44 PM
Kryat and Lumiya are probably the two figures I'm most looking forward to coming out of the NYTF.  The spot-on redo of TPM Obi-Wan is a close third.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 16, 2009, 03:44 PM
I'm looking forward to the Krayt figure, but am disappointed with the "curvyness" of the female Imperial Knight figure. Look at all of the comics. She's a little more buxom and definitely more rounded up top. Still I'll prolly get two of this set, one of which to custom.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Captain Piet on February 21, 2009, 11:43 AM
Anybody found the three new Wal-Mart exclusive comic packs yet? My buddy Pete picked x2 of 'em up for me yesterday and I find them thoroughly impressive.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on February 21, 2009, 12:47 PM
I'm looking foward for tha Rogue pilots  IBTISAM NRIN VAKIL, now seen at Ebay, but is not yet out according JI but in 3/1/09
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on February 21, 2009, 03:56 PM
I saw all three of the new Walmart comic packs today.  I only got the Ewok set, I think it'll be the quickest moving of the three, but I'm usually way off on my predictions, so who knows.  I'm pretty excited about the other two and I'll be trying to get those two soon.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on February 21, 2009, 04:00 PM
I'm looking foward for tha Rogue pilots  IBTISAM NRIN VAKIL, now seen at Ebay, but is not yet out according JI but in 3/1/09

I just bought this set less than a couple of hours ago.  And I've seen a number of other reports confirming that these sets are out there.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on February 22, 2009, 07:09 PM
I'm looking foward for tha Rogue pilots  IBTISAM NRIN VAKIL, now seen at Ebay, but is not yet out according JI but in 3/1/09

I just bought this set less than a couple of hours ago.  And I've seen a number of other reports confirming that these sets are out there.

Thanks  Nick I will give a check, just bought a GC to play the two Rogue Squadron games to go back to the fever  plus Jango game as well  :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 5, 2009, 03:59 AM
So I picked up the Wal-Mart comic packs tonight...  The good, the bad, and the ugly...

The good...

The X-Wing pilots set is outstanding in my opinion.  Short of them having gloves on, I find both sets incredibly impressive.  The Quarren X-Winger is great because it is an average height X-Wing pilot, and an insanely articulated average height X-Wing pilot...  Why don't we have humans like this then? 

The Mon Calamari Female is an interesting take on an old species...  Who knows what they look like, right?  The slight build with the exagerrated hands/head are interesting looks to the Mon Cal physiology that usually has a normal or "thick" build body. 

I think both pilots make for great diversity in the Rebel Briefing room too...  I'm happily going to add a second set.


The Lt. "Tank" Sunber & Amanin set is likewise great.  Tank makes officially the best Imperial Officer ever put out in the line.  Why?  Because he's as near to super articulated and accurately sculpted as any officer we've ever gotten, plus he's sporting a removable officer's Kepi.  Very nifty...  A clean deco figure on a basic card would equal me giving up much of my hard-earned cash.  He'd be a fantastic army builder Hasbro...  You listening?

The Amanin is cool...  Not quite as cool as Sunber, but he's a 100% new sculpt with the added height/girth that the original VINTAGE Amanaman figure had.  While Amanaman is actually average height to a human male in ROTJ (and the vintage figure was just not accurate and oversized), this new Amanin has that vintage flavor people bitched about when that "Deluxe" Amanaman came out.  The Amanaman has some nice strapped accessories to spiff him up a bit including a neat canteen thing and a spear, and the character's tail actually is molded with a wire in it so it bends a little for posing even.  Not much, but a little bit.


Lastly, the Ewok pack...  There's not a ton to say on the set other than it's 3 "new" Ewoks with new decoes and some new gear.  The spears seem new, or at least well made re-used molds.  The axe is definitely new, and an appreciated piece of Ewok hardware.  The hoods and the figures themselves seem mostly used, but appreciated.  The heads may be all new...  The one that comes with a trooper helmet is definitely new as his ears are scupted "curved in" so that the helmet fits him.  The other two, I'm not positive, but they look new to me for some reason.

They have good articulation for figures of their size, and they're the proper smaller Ewok bodies to get the right scale.  Hasbro gives you 3, assuming to make up for their diminutive size.  That makes this a little bit of an army builder set when you think about it, as you can mix/match hoods with these "Ewok Troopers". 

You also get some cool Stormtrooper gear made just to fit the Ewoks...  The helmet itself may interest Stormtrooper fans as it's a new, larger sculpt helmet.  People complain that the current removable helmets are "small", but this one may make a Trooper with a satisfactory sized helmet...  I don't personally nitpick the helmets/armor that much, but others may find this helmet accessory interesting for that reason.


Now, the bad...

-The Amanin's articulation immediately comes to mind.  I'm disappointed he doesn't have elbow articulation, especially considering the comic pricehikes going on.  It would've been especially cool if Hasbro had made the Amanin capable of rolling into a ball for their "attack" mode thing they do in the comic book.  Significantly more difficult to pull off, but it would've been awesome to see in this particular figure.

-Sunber's Elbows...  Minor gripe, but he has angle-cuts.  They work well enough to hold a blaster 2-handed, or to stand at a number of poses, but still a little disappointing they used what appear to be THrawn's leg sculpt but not his arms.

-X-Winger's arms...  The wrist/arm pieces of the X-Wingers are a little loose.  It's frustrating, but nothing major.  I just hate when a figure's arm or something falls off easily, but you learn to live with it usually.  Few of these are ever really a deal breaker.

-Sunber's deco...  I like what Hasbro was going for with making a Tank Sunber that's at the end of the battle with the Amanin, having only a handful of guys (Sunber included) who survived.  It's a cool storyline, and the battle worn Sunber is cool, however I'd take a clean deco Tank any day, and on a basic card as an Imperial Army Officer army builder...  He's really a fantastic figure as he is, and I'd gladly own another 20 if I could afford that many.  Hasbro, you listening?  You CAN resell me this figure, many times over, if you wanted. :)  Just make the deco clean and spiffy.


The Ugly...

-Ewok hood paintjobs...  The hoods could've used just a hair of detailing to the stitching.  I know Hasbro's efforts to mimic the "art" in the Marvel comics (and I use the term "art" loosely.  To me the Marvel books look like poo) with the figures, however I think Hasbro would've done the collectors a favor by just painting the stitching a simple black or brown or grey to just make the figures look a little less "cheap".  Would Marvel fans have honestly cared that much?  Maybe, but I doubt it, and if they had I think it'd be the minority...  Still this is a minor flaw in this set, in my eyes.

-Price...  I paid over $40 for 3 sets.  I recall a time when 3 sets would've been about $10 less than I paid today.  The Comic Pack line was partially about value, so while you're still not shelling out a ton for them, the ever-increasing price is really a pain.  I got these for almost $13 a pop each and tax put it over $40.  That just stung the old wallet.  If these had been $9.99 or $11.99 even, I think I would've been more likely to nab extras tonight on my stop.

Price is the real kicker...  The sets otherwise are outstanding, despite a flaw here and there.  They're really just 3 very nice comic sets.  The fact they're WM exclusives isn't great, however I found a TON of them tonight when I was out, so that's at least a good sign they won't be tough finds for people.  I found them in a pre-pack endcap/island display thing.  Happily run out and nab these sets if you're making the rounds and spot them.  They're all 3 very nice.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Paul on March 5, 2009, 09:14 PM
Are Sunber's shoulders just  a swivel or is there more articulation?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on March 10, 2009, 11:31 PM
Saw the 3 packs: Rogue, Luke, & Sharad 

I 'm going to return my complete wave 5 to get those...

Things I dont like, Luke's Cro-Magnon head.  :P
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 11, 2009, 12:11 AM
Tank's shoulders (and whole upper body maybe) are Moff Jerjerrod's if I'm not mistaken...  They are just swivel shoulders and angle-cut swivel elbows.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 11, 2009, 09:46 AM
Saw the 3 packs: Rogue, Luke, & Sharad 

I 'm going to return my complete wave 5 to get those...

Things I dont like, Luke's Cro-Magnon head.  :P

Is everyone that is seeing these, seeing them at WMs? Has there been a Target sighting yet?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 11, 2009, 10:14 AM
Saw the 3 packs: Rogue, Luke, & Sharad 

I 'm going to return my complete wave 5 to get those...

Things I dont like, Luke's Cro-Magnon head.  :P

Is everyone that is seeing these, seeing them at WMs? Has there been a Target sighting yet?

These were just found at Target a few days ago.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on March 11, 2009, 11:08 AM
Saw the 3 packs: Rogue, Luke, & Sharad 

I 'm going to return my complete wave 5 to get those...

Things I dont like, Luke's Cro-Magnon head.  :P

Is everyone that is seeing these, seeing them at WMs? Has there been a Target sighting yet?

Walmart as well, I only visited one Target & have 0, so I dunno know yet if others will.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on March 11, 2009, 11:30 AM
So these aren't exclusives?  The way Jesse started his post above I thought I'd missed a memo and they were only at Wal-mart.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 11, 2009, 11:59 AM
Rob, there are two waves of comic packs shipping right now -

Walmart Exclusive = Sunber/Amanin, Ewok 3-pack, and Ibitsam/Nrin (Rogue Pilots)
and
NOT Exclusive = Wedge/Borsk, Stealth Luke/Deena, and Ki-Adi/Hett
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on March 11, 2009, 12:56 PM
Thanks Jeff, that's very helpful.  I'm lame and don't really like the comic packs that much, so I usually don't know what I'm talking about.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 11, 2009, 01:37 PM
Tank's shoulders (and whole upper body maybe) are Moff Jerjerrod's if I'm not mistaken...  They are just swivel shoulders and angle-cut swivel elbows.

Correct.  Somehow though, this figure seems like a huge upgrade over Jerjerrod, even though there's not much different other than the legs. 

On one of mine, I used a bit of Goof-Off and removed the "dirt" on his uniform. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on March 11, 2009, 03:29 PM
Well picking up the Wal-mart ones was easy... Although two waves of comic packs and the Joker Squadron thing all at once has me seriously questioning my commitment to all this EU nonsense.  I'm starting to think I could sell the entire top shelf of my collection other than the McQuarrie stuff and not miss any of it.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 12, 2009, 01:56 AM
I like EU, a lot, and I'm leaning towards picky too Rob...

Honestly part of me regrets getting anything from Legacy because, well, I find it ****** for the most part.

That said, I like the majority of what we get.  The X-Wingers we got are great, the Tank figure (too bad it's not clean) and Amanin...  Good stuff.  That great grandson or whatever of Luke is just lame looking to me though. :(

The Joker Squad look neat enough to me for trooper diversity, but that's really the only reason I got a set of those...  I'm still debating what to do about that Crucible set.  I think I'll order it on sale/clearance at some point, but not full price at all.  Same with the Previews TIE.  I'd love to own it, but not at that disgusting full price.  It's not even technically accurate to the EU it's from which is annoying as hell.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 12, 2009, 12:08 PM
Finally got my Luke/Deena set. Great figures.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on March 12, 2009, 07:12 PM
That said, I like the majority of what we get.  The X-Wingers we got are great, the Tank figure (too bad it's not clean) and Amanin...  Good stuff.  That great grandson or whatever of Luke is just lame looking to me though. :(

I'm not trying to say they're not nice figures, they look great.  This whole wave I think is really cool outside of the fluorescent ewoks. 

I just don't know who any of the characters are and don't care to find out.  And it was fine when it was every now and then, but now they're putting out entire waves of EU, EU vehicles, Clone Wars like crazy, Comic Packs, exclusives, and on and on.

Even Gentle Giant seems to have started doing this with their mini-bust line, and there are hundreds of movie characters (lots of them major) left to do... no farm boy luke, but we're getting a TFU Stormtrooper Commander and a Twi'lek Sith... I'm thinking about ditching the EU mini-busts too.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 12, 2009, 07:39 PM
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Hasbro keep bringing on more EU stuff. I still want my OTC stuff, but I would rather have a Borsk Fey'lya than my 456th Darth Vader fig. I do follow the EU stuff and I enjoy it greatly.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on March 13, 2009, 02:37 PM
I'm not trying to say they're not nice figures, they look great.  This whole wave I think is really cool outside of the fluorescent ewoks. 

I just don't know who any of the characters are and don't care to find out.  And it was fine when it was every now and then, but now they're putting out entire waves of EU, EU vehicles, Clone Wars like crazy, Comic Packs, exclusives, and on and on.

Well of course they're putting out waves of EU stuff Rob - why wouldn't they?  They've covered most of the figs from the films at least once if not multiple times, and the movies are yesterday's news from a marketing perspective.  There's only so many redo's and bit characters from the movies that people are going to buy, so why not fill in the gaps with EU stuff?  Frankly, the comics and novels and CW TV show are the current, unexplored areas of the SW universe, so I'd say they're right on trend.  The strategy is actually pretty smart - if you like the comics, this is a way to get you into the world of figures.  If you like figures, but aren't into EU, this is a way to get you to start checking out some of the EU comics and novels. 

I'd like to know how you feel about characters like Pons Limbic and Wioslea.  These are movie based, but have maybe a second or two of screen time.  Do you really know anything more about them than Cade Skywalker or Lumiya or Talon Karde?  Personally, I love the EU material and the figures that are starting to come along with it, but even if I didn't I think I'd rather have an Imperial Knights set over more unknown cantina denizens.   ;)

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 13, 2009, 03:55 PM
EU definitely has a role in the line, and should.  I am enjoying quite a few of those figures ever bit as much as figures from the films. 

If one wants to see the line continue to stay fresh and succeed, I think it's a no-brainer for Hasbro/etc. to continue to explore those areas.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on March 13, 2009, 05:50 PM
I'd like to know how you feel about characters like Pons Limbic and Wioslea.  These are movie based, but have maybe a second or two of screen time.  Do you really know anything more about them than Cade Skywalker or Lumiya or Talon Karde?  Personally, I love the EU material and the figures that are starting to come along with it, but even if I didn't I think I'd rather have an Imperial Knights set over more unknown cantina denizens.   ;)

Love 'em.  Anything from the actual movie is preferable to anything from a book or comic as far as I'm concerned.  One thing is straight-up Star Wars.  The other is an endless parade of lightsaber wielding anythings that just give everyone a new watered down story to follow.  Don't get me wrong, I read the novels... maybe 75 of them since the mid 90's, and I don't mind getting figures like Karde or Thrawn...  Maybe it's mostly the comics that don't do it for me because I don't read them and don't care too.  I'd take a new obscure film character over even the most popular EU creation any day of the week.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 13, 2009, 05:59 PM
I'd take a new obscure film character over even the most popular EU creation any day of the week.


The reason that doesn't really make sense to me is that it isn't like the EU characters we get (for the most part) are basic figs taking the place of some film character. There have been a few EU waves and is one in the future, but they are few and far between. Whereas CPs for instance wouldn't exist if they weren't EU. And maybe the argument is there could be a different line of toys that were film based without CPs, but I don't know for sure.

I'm glad Hasbro agrees with me and not you. Or at least whatever their reasoning is it fits what I think/like.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on March 13, 2009, 06:05 PM
Maybe it's mostly the comics that don't do it for me because I don't read them and don't care too.  I'd take a new obscure film character over even the most popular EU creation any day of the week.

I'm in the same boat, yet I just can't quit buying these stupid things.  I have no freaking clue who most of these guys are, but I just can't quit cold turkey on this line....yet.   ::)     OCD

The Shadows of the Empire packs from the 90's were kinda cool, but I never thought we'd get this far into EU.

I'm also a carded SW collector so I don't really have the "luxury" of reading the comic to find out background info to warrent my purchase.  Hell - I don't even like comics for that matter, I've probably only read one or two that a friend tried to push on me as a kid.  I do open my Joes, and I didn't even care to read a single one of those comics.  Anywho...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on March 13, 2009, 07:29 PM
The reason that doesn't really make sense to me is that it isn't like the EU characters we get (for the most part) are basic figs taking the place of some film character. There have been a few EU waves and is one in the future, but they are few and far between. Whereas CPs for instance wouldn't exist if they weren't EU. And maybe the argument is there could be a different line of toys that were film based without CPs, but I don't know for sure.

All I know is that not counting vinteage I have seven and a half, 12 foot long shelves full of figures.  The one that has the most figures on it is the top one, and it goes a full 12 feet with nothing but EU figures (they take up a foot or so on the next shelf too).  I'd guess that it's at least one out of every seven figures Hasbro has made that came from somewhere other than one of the 6 movies.  You might think that's right on par.... 6 movies and 'other'... 1/7th etc... but an awful lot of what's on that top shelf came about in the last year or year and a half.  It's accelerated.   There are now hundreds of the things, with tons more on tap.

All I'm saying is that I'm considering giving up on what's about 8 figures away from being a complete set of every Star Wars action figure ever created because I don't want to keep spending more and more each year on stuff from comic books.  There's nothing interesting or timeless about that stuff that makes me want to spend $7.99 plus tax on them (or 2 for $12.99 plus tax for the comic packs).
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darby on March 13, 2009, 08:11 PM
I found the Wedge/Borsk pack today.  The best thing about it is that Wedge's head pops onto the Evolutions Janson body - instant Snowspeeder Wedge.  Myself, I buy maybe 10% of the comic packs.  I don't read or know a lot of EU beyond the Zahn stuff.  If it looks cool or has some tangential connection to the films, like Wedge and the Bothan, I'm all for it.  And me personally, I don't think there's much difference between Wiosela or Borsk.  The amount of space they occupy in the SW universe is the same.  So long as they make what I want, I'm good with whatever else they do.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Daigo-Bah on March 13, 2009, 08:15 PM
I'm with Rob on this topic, but I think comic packs are ok for what they are.  Like mentioned, I'd rather EU figures occupy that line than the basic figure line.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on March 13, 2009, 10:47 PM
I have a couple of criticisms of that Rebellion 2-pack.  First, the headsculpt and paint on Deena Shan.  Hooboy, that's completely fugly!  And not really excusable because the new TESB Leia shows that Hasbro can do a decent woman's headsculpt.

My other gripe?  Where did Luke's lightsaber come from?  The timeframe of that comic is supposed to be between ANH and TESB.  But the hilt is totally wrong.  It's not like this is a case like the VOTC pilot Luke, with the Vader saber hilt.  This is some other lightsaber hilt that I've never even seen.  What gives?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on March 13, 2009, 11:02 PM
My other gripe?  Where did Luke's lightsaber come from?  The timeframe of that comic is supposed to be between ANH and TESB.  But the hilt is totally wrong.  It's not like this is a case like the VOTC pilot Luke, with the Vader saber hilt.  This is some other lightsaber hilt that I've never even seen.  What gives?

This is likely due to the way his LS handle is drawn in the comic.  The figs are loyal to the comic rendition that what might be movie accurate.  I don't recall seeing blue shading and red eyes on any stormtroopers in the movie either...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2009, 12:32 AM
Do they try to keep true to the animation style of DH comics though?  The Marvel things are completely stylized, but not the DH stuff...  Most if it's made to fit with the "realistic" line of figures without alteration, if I'm not mistaken.  Didn't Hasbro even mention that back when comic packs were first touted?  I could just be misremembering that at the time, but I thought that was their gameplan they made public.

I like the EU figures so long as Hasbro doesn't skimp on them, which they have on several...  That said, I tend to agree that I'd take any number of film obscurity figures over EU ones.  There's a few EU that grab my attention, but in general they fit pretty flawlessly in with the film figures too...  Keyan Farlander for instance (though I do want an X-Winger of him someday).
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on March 14, 2009, 12:57 AM
Do they try to keep true to the animation style of DH comics though?  The Marvel things are completely stylized, but not the DH stuff...  Most if it's made to fit with the "realistic" line of figures without alteration, if I'm not mistaken.  Didn't Hasbro even mention that back when comic packs were first touted?  I could just be misremembering that at the time, but I thought that was their gameplan they made public.

I think the "style" is meant to fit in with the rest of the basic lines, but the design (accessories, coloration, etc.) is meant to mimic the comic version.  So they're willing to paint a stormtrooper with red eyes and a blue shadow because that's how he's depicted in the old Marvel comic, but they're not going to restyle him to look "animated" like they have with the Clone Wars.  I think CW figures make sense to do a "cartoon" or animated version of because they literally are based off of a cartoon.  Comicbooks and Novel characters aren't meant to look "animated" in the same way a cartoon is - it's just the way they have to be portrayed due to the medium being used to convey the story.

I still prefer to have a character with some kind of story or meaning in the expanded SW universe than some extra alien sitting in a back corner of 1 second of movie time, but that just goes back to the fact that some people like me really like the EU and some people hate it.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 14, 2009, 10:24 AM
Don't buy the EU stuff then. If you consider the new CW stuff EU then you will end up with tons of it. I think Lucas and Hasbro know they have to grow the kids into fans if this line is going to continue for decades more so all the EU stuff is going to let the movie stuff keep getting made as a huge line that gets a lot of space at general retailers.

My biggest confusion is not people who say I don't like EU stuff and won't buy it, but the people who say I hate it and they should stop making it. You wouldn't get all the stuff you like for years to come if it didn't exist.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 14, 2009, 11:05 AM
I'm in the Rob camp for basically the same reasons. I appreciate those who love their EU, but I'm not one of them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 14, 2009, 12:35 PM
Coming from a customizing background, we used to always make EU figures. Those were the good old days before everyone went clone crazy. I've always loved the books but have missed most of the comics. When I was customizing I would go through my star wars encyclopedia for new ideas. I think its great that Hasbro is making some obscure eu figures. I just wish they would also make some of the more known ones like Winter or Jaxx. Were is my giant green rabbit Hasbro?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2009, 04:30 PM
Those were the good old days before everyone went clone crazy.

I gotta say I agree with this, at this point...  Not to say I'm dumping on the guys making Clones, as they seem to be the modern day astromech and a good way for new people to start the hobby (repaints an'nat), but how many "special forces" could the Republic honestly have had? :)  It kinda takes the "special" out of it if every other trooper is elite in some way.

People need to get back to background characters.  Stephen Hayfords background Tatooine people are still some of my favorites, and relatively simple.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Satria Libra on March 15, 2009, 11:42 PM
Ha ha ha ha

I like your saying about every trooper is elite trooper.... So many clone guys called elite trooper.

Do you consider hasbro just exagerating the number of unit/division, which actually never exist in starwars universe?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 16, 2009, 02:47 AM
A little bit, but I was speaking more to the people who customize than Hasbro...

At least when Hasbro makes stuff up, it's usually squeezed into EU somewhere, and they tend to stick to characters/elements of the EU that already exist in some capacity, like the yellow BARC Troopers or ARC Troopers and whatnot.  I'm glad they don't add to EU often by making up stuff themselves (not often at least)...  That's taking the whole EU aspect of the line to a whole new extreme...

Basically, I'd rather get EU figures than EU Hasbro decides to make up themselves because it's an easy repaint or something.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Satria Libra on March 16, 2009, 04:21 AM
A little bit, but I was speaking more to the people who customize than Hasbro...

At least when Hasbro makes stuff up, it's usually squeezed into EU somewhere, and they tend to stick to characters/elements of the EU that already exist in some capacity, like the yellow BARC Troopers or ARC Troopers and whatnot.  I'm glad they don't add to EU often by making up stuff themselves (not often at least)...  That's taking the whole EU aspect of the line to a whole new extreme...

Basically, I'd rather get EU figures than EU Hasbro decides to make up themselves because it's an easy repaint or something.

Oke..I got it...

I know some clone troopers from EU that already exist, like commander keller / galactic marines.

but I always thought (It's because i haven't read many of the starwars comic) most of the clone variants were merely habro's creation.

How about blue airborne troopers? does they exist in EU?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on March 16, 2009, 09:10 AM
I'm kind of with the majority of others on the comic pack/EU issue.  I like the comic packs fine for what they are (even more so when they were a $9.99 "value"), but I'm starting to find myself picking up less and less of them.  A lot of it is budgetary issues, but I'm one of those too that has little to no idea who some of the characters are.  I mean, sure, I know a bit from the forums and things like that, but I'm not really one who has read a ton of EU stuff (although I'm trying to branch out more), so a lot of it is unfamiliar to me.  Plus, I tend to stay away from the stuff that really doesn't look very "Star Warsy" to me.

At this point, I tend to stick to stuff that could conceivably fit into the movies - and more so the OT movies - and I'm starting to pass on the rest.  With the packs at $13ish now, and the articulation/overall figure not really upped any from the older, cheaper packs - its an easier place to make cuts when you're on a tightened budget.  I'm also one who would gladly take about any figure from the movies before an EU character/figure.  Again, like mentioned, the comic packs are great for expanding the EU - and that should be the main place for them I think.  Keep the basic line, at least for the most part, focused on movie figures.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 16, 2009, 10:07 AM
What kills me most about this line is the too literal interpretation of some of the figures. I mean, sure, I appreciate the fact that these are supposed to hop right off the page, but it ruins some potentially great figures for me like the original Luke/Han stormtroopers, Baron Fel and new Ewoks.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Satria Libra on March 16, 2009, 11:55 PM
Thank you for your discussion, masters...

Since i collect mainly the clone guys, I actually feel happy about many variations of clone troopers. Even if it doesn't really exist in Starwars universe.

I enjoy blue airborne troopers even though maybe, just maybe, they actually don't belong even to EU.

Heh heh heh, because if it comes to collecting stuffs.... The more the merrier.

They just make a fine addition to my collection...

But i agree with you Brian, to focus more on movie figures clone troopers.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: knashdx on March 17, 2009, 03:02 PM
I for one enjoy this line for the most part. Grantted there are repacks that I could do with out (2008 Wal-Mart Comic Packs), but otherwise they have been doing a decent job of getting figures that would not be made otherwise. The opportunities for this line are endless and I want to see them make more.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 17, 2009, 03:13 PM
I like the comic packs quite a bit.  There's sometimes some stinkers snuck in there that I don't care for, but overall I think it's been a very good format for releasing some obscure characters.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Satria Libra on March 17, 2009, 11:15 PM
I like the comic packs quite a bit.  There's sometimes some stinkers snuck in there that I don't care for, but overall I think it's been a very good format for releasing some obscure characters.

Always a room for once more, eh Master Chewie?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Diddly on March 18, 2009, 03:28 AM
I've been seeing a lot more of the newer/WM exclusive Comic Packs lately but I just can't bring myself to buy them. Not only are they getting up there in price, I just don't care about any of the characters in them. The WM exclusives are very cool but I just can't spend $13 for all three sets.

Also I've been seeing a TON of comic pack switcharoos lately. I've seen several Wedge/Bothan sets replaced with various ROTS figures and today I saw the Amanin/Officer set replaced with an Admiral Piett and the Flashback Chewie from 1998. It's really starting to piss me off.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 18, 2009, 10:12 AM
I've been seeing a lot more of the newer/WM exclusive Comic Packs lately

These haven't even hit anywhere near Los Angeles yet.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: knashdx on March 19, 2009, 06:20 PM
I've been seeing a lot more of the newer/WM exclusive Comic Packs lately

These haven't even hit anywhere near Los Angeles yet.

First time that has happened.  :o
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 20, 2009, 10:15 AM
I've been seeing a lot more of the newer/WM exclusive Comic Packs lately

These haven't even hit anywhere near Los Angeles yet.

First time that has happened.  :o

Not really. WM has been really horrible about getting the exclusives to our stores. One of the three here in the Valley never gets them at all.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 20, 2009, 10:38 AM
I've been seeing a lot more of the newer/WM exclusive Comic Packs lately

These haven't even hit anywhere near Los Angeles yet.

First time that has happened.  :o

Not really. WM has been really horrible about getting the exclusives to our stores. One of the three here in the Valley never gets them at all.

We have numerous WMs in MN that don't get any of the exclusives. It's really annoying.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on March 20, 2009, 10:43 AM
WalMart sucks ass.   >:(

...and on an unrelated note - I picked up a set of the new comic packs at Target yesterday.  I vowed to stop with these things, but I just can't stop for some stupid reason. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on March 20, 2009, 01:16 PM
It's called addiction, LOL.

I have it too.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2009, 01:59 PM
WalMart sucks ass.   >:(

...and on an unrelated note - I picked up a set of the new comic packs at Target yesterday.  I vowed to stop with these things, but I just can't stop for some stupid reason. 

In my area, Wal-Mart kicks ass.  All the stores seem to do quite well in stocking their exclusives, receiving the new waves first, etc.  Plus their prices are usually a little cheaper than everyone else.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on March 20, 2009, 02:14 PM
WalMarts here in MN are generally filthy and full of immigrants (not that there's anything wrong with that, I guess)  Employees are no help and like Nick said - we rarely get exclusives....and what's up with the greeters?  Nasty ass old people or the paraplegic?  Ick.. WM's were great in Vegas when I lived out there, but I guess it's all in what part of the country you're in.

Refer to the WM bingo card if you please.   :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2009, 04:16 PM
Yeah, I think a lot of it's relative to the area, or district.

There's really only one Wal-Mart in my area that I would say is behind the times, and it's a pretty far drive from most of civilization actually.  It's pretty small and dated.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: AmanaMatt on March 22, 2009, 04:46 PM
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/001-4.jpg)

Picked up the new Amanin warrior set  - first comic book 2 pack I have liked since wave 1's han & luke...since memeber name is Amanamatt, of course I am all over any new Amanin type figure. Not like Amanaman sold well when he hit years back, but hey, I am not complaining. As you can see, this is way larger than any previous version of an Amanin figure. The modern Amanaman was pretty much dead on scale.....

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Kendo Benobi on March 23, 2009, 08:58 PM
Has anyone picked up the Wedge/Borsk comic pack? If you haven't, be forewarned. It's not so good.

Wedge has the proportions of a orangutan. His arms are too long and his legs too short and bent into an awkward pose. He can't even stand up straight. What happened? How did this make it past Quality Assurance? Sheesh.   

Borsk on the other hand, our very first Bothan.... the species that stole the plans for the second Death Star... looks about as fearsome as well, apparently a Bothan. Gigantic head. And his hiked-up tunic looks odd unless he's posed in a running position.

Total C- on this comic pack. I was really looking forward to it but it's just not right.

So, this got me to thinking about Mon Mothma's line about "many Bothans died bringing us this information blah blah blah..." As it turns out the Bothans were rather clumsy and prone to fatal accidents and that this was an inside joke and the entire Rebel briefing erupted into laughter. 

I understand now why the Bothans didn't appear in the film.   
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on March 23, 2009, 11:08 PM
Has anyone picked up the Wedge/Borsk comic pack? If you haven't, be forewarned. It's not so good.

Wedge has the proportions of a orangutan. His arms are too long and his legs too short and bent into an awkward pose. He can't even stand up straight. What happened? How did this make it past Quality Assurance? Sheesh.   



I also noted that the Luke with Shan has like two molds, one with the mid body like Leia with Xizor comic pack, along with the huge head lol!
Others seems not to be that bad.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: evenflow on March 24, 2009, 09:46 AM
I didn't realizew the Amanin was that big. I need to get that right away..only if my walmart carried exclusives.  ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 25, 2009, 03:33 PM
 

Borsk on the other hand, our very first Bothan.... the species that stole the plans for the second Death Star...


Mmmmm.... the species who thought they stole the plans when in actuality Palps let them have it so they'd plan an attack and arrive in time for the waiting ambush.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on March 25, 2009, 04:00 PM
 

Borsk on the other hand, our very first Bothan.... the species that stole the plans for the second Death Star...


Mmmmm.... the species who thought they stole the plans when in actuality Palps let them have it so they'd plan an attack and arrive in time for the waiting ambush.
Well, that's what he wrote on the reports afterward anyway...  "yeah, I let them have the plans, that's the ticket!"
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 30, 2009, 10:19 AM
I noticed something interesting about the Vakil Pilot figure - he's got a new lower torso which makes the SA X-wing pilot figure taller, like it should be. Looks like this figure can be used to make non-Luke sized Pilots. Yea!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Ryan on March 31, 2009, 03:16 AM
I noticed something interesting about the Vakil Pilot figure - he's got a new lower torso which makes the SA X-wing pilot figure taller, like it should be. Looks like this figure can be used to make non-Luke sized Pilots. Yea!

I think that the entire figure is new. The arms are longer that the VOTC Luke and the shoulders have a much more rounded ball-joint. The torso seems has the larger ball joint head and the hose attaches under the arm, which is different from any of the pilot figures we have so far. It looks different than Luke's and the Evolutions' sculpt.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 31, 2009, 10:25 AM
The arms aren't really new, the shoulders have just been modified, sanded down. The upper torso is totally new though, good catch.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on March 31, 2009, 03:57 PM
Any reports of the new wave hitting TRU yet? 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2009, 04:06 PM
If by "new wave" you mean the Wedge/Borsk, Luke/Deena, Ki-Adi/Hett packs then yes, they have been found at Walmart, Target and TRU at this point.  In fact, I think TRU was first to get them in most areas...


In stores, it seems everyone have found the Wedge and Ki packs, but not the Luke/Deena one so far.

I haven't heard too much about anyone finding any of these in store.  What retailer are they showing up at?

TRU.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 1, 2009, 10:19 AM
They hit TRU were around here a month before they hit at Target.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on April 1, 2009, 10:40 AM
I got the Wedge & Borsk Fey'lya 2-pack the week of Toy Fair at TRU.  That wave has been out there, but not in serious quantities.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on April 1, 2009, 11:13 AM
Yeah Jeff, those are the ones I'm talking about.  I still haven't seen them in Dallas, and I'm holding out for TRU since I've got this $20 giftcard left over from buying RE5.

But if they've been around for that long I guess I'll pick them up wherever I see them, if I see them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on April 2, 2009, 01:34 AM
Aldi's, a discount grocery chain that is near Pittsburgh (no idea if it goes much further any other direction) has comic packs advertised this week for $9.99.  Weirdest place I've seen comic packs advertised.  They supposedly go on sale tomorrow, so I'm gonna pop in maybe Friday on my way through...  I'm curious just to see what they may get.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 2, 2009, 10:07 AM
All the love for the Anamin character in the comic pack left me wonder what the deal was, until I read the comic. Those characters were awesome.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on April 4, 2009, 09:04 PM
The comic that came with Tank and the Amanin warrior was definitely one of Dark Horse's better efforts in the EMPIRE title.  I would've like to have seen a little more articulation in the Amanin, but it's a pretty good figure considering the price point.  But the sticking point for me with this set is the color of Tank's uniform.  The concept behind a UNIFORM is that it helps a military unit achieve a UNIFORM appearance.  His uni doesn't match any of the other Imperial officers in terms of the coloring.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: commandernarra on April 4, 2009, 11:45 PM
The comic that came with Tank and the Amanin warrior was definitely one of Dark Horse's better efforts in the EMPIRE title.  I would've like to have seen a little more articulation in the Amanin, but it's a pretty good figure considering the price point.  But the sticking point for me with this set is the color of Tank's uniform.  The concept behind a UNIFORM is that it helps a military unit achieve a UNIFORM appearance.  His uni doesn't match any of the other Imperial officers in terms of the coloring.

Here I was thinking the same thing. If they colored Tank the uniform Imperial gray, I would've bought at least 6 of these sets...
His coloring is interpretive of the comic, which everyone complained about on the Marvel sets, but seemed to give this one a pass ???
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 5, 2009, 11:14 AM

His coloring is interpretive of the comic, which everyone complained about on the Marvel sets, but seemed to give this one a pass ???

Not everyone complained about the coloring. Including me.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 5, 2009, 11:31 AM
The coloring kind of bothers me, but I can live with it. The rank bothers me more. I acquired a second one via trade and painted his uniform black to add variety to my troops. If I could match the grey well enough, I might modify a third, rank and all.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 6, 2009, 10:58 AM
I noticed something interesting about the Vakil Pilot figure - he's got a new lower torso which makes the SA X-wing pilot figure taller, like it should be. Looks like this figure can be used to make non-Luke sized Pilots. Yea!

I think that the entire figure is new. The arms are longer that the VOTC Luke and the shoulders have a much more rounded ball-joint. The torso seems has the larger ball joint head and the hose attaches under the arm, which is different from any of the pilot figures we have so far. It looks different than Luke's and the Evolutions' sculpt.

Turns out, you're more right than I was. Scum did a more detailed review and determined that you have better eyes than I do. Seems the lower legs are new as well.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on April 10, 2009, 09:35 AM
I see RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Star_Wars_Rumors_Comic_Packs_More_Repacks_122332.asp) has a new rumor list up for some upcoming Comic Packs, including one with Camie and Fixer.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 10, 2009, 10:39 AM
Yeah, but they're from Empire.  :(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on April 10, 2009, 12:53 PM
I kind of hate that Luke and R2 are in that list. Again.   ::)  Hopefully this is just a repack that I won't mind skipping.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on April 10, 2009, 12:56 PM
I kind of hate that Luke and R2 are in that list. Again.   ::)  Hopefully this is just a repack that I won't mind skipping.

You know it won't be.  :P
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on April 10, 2009, 01:58 PM
I kind of hate that Luke and R2 are in that list. Again.   ::)  Hopefully this is just a repack that I won't mind skipping.

You know it won't be.  :P

Yeah, it'll be Shadow Luke and Shadow R2.   ;D

Seriously though, I think with the exception of the Luke/R2 set, the others sound pretty good.  I'll hold judgement on that one until I see what it is.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 11, 2009, 01:26 AM
I wonder if the Luke/R2 set will be a re-pack of the Luke & R2 Droid Factory 2-pack from 2008.

It wouldn't be a bad way to get that R2 variant out again. That was one of the more popular 2-packs from the Droid Factory exclusives last year in my area.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on April 12, 2009, 08:38 AM
Looks like GH got their hands on a packaging sample (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/7932-2.jpg) for the new Comic Pack design. The Luke/R2 set does appear to be just a repack and you can see little previews of the Camie/Fixer and Noghri Warrior & Ralrra too.


Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 12, 2009, 09:13 AM
Looks like GH got their hands on a packaging sample (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/7932-2.jpg) for the new Comic Pack design. The Luke/R2 set does appear to be just a repack and you can see little previews of the Camie/Fixer and Noghri Warrior & Ralrra too.




There is going to be a Noghri Warrior? SWEET!!!!!!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 12, 2009, 10:20 AM
Looks like one of the clones has a shoulder pauldron.
Title: Re: Comic Pack
Post by: Jesse James on July 9, 2009, 05:33 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ComicVongLoose1_TN.jpg)

As per the front page, we've got Kyle's new best buddy, the Yuzaahn Vong Warrior dude...  And he's huge.  And ugly.

Head on out to check him out.
Title: Re: Comic Pack
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 9, 2009, 05:42 PM
I am so excited for this. I love the Vong. It is nice to finally be getting a Hasbro version.
Title: Re: Comic Pack
Post by: Jesse James on July 9, 2009, 05:54 PM
I wonder if his girthiness will prevent Hasbro from reusing the mold for Vong army building fans?  They're wishy washy about big figures for some reason.  I know I'd like a ton of the new SA Dark Trooper build-a-droid we're getting, and I'm not even an overly big fan of NJO but I'd army build the Vong, especially if they redecoed him or did minor retooling tweaks to a limb or head here and there. 

They're just odd about big figures though...  I like it though, and think it looks incredible. 
Title: Re: Comic Pack
Post by: CorranHorn on July 9, 2009, 06:37 PM
I wonder if his girthiness will prevent Hasbro from reusing the mold for Vong army building fans?  They're wishy washy about big figures for some reason.  I know I'd like a ton of the new SA Dark Trooper build-a-droid we're getting, and I'm not even an overly big fan of NJO but I'd army build the Vong, especially if they redecoed him or did minor retooling tweaks to a limb or head here and there. 

They're just odd about big figures though...  I like it though, and think it looks incredible. 

Big H's concern is usually with the footprint such figures would have on a basic card - size of bubble and whether the card stock can support the weight of the figure in the bubble. They use these points to also indicate that this would cause a problem with the case assortment as either a figure or two would have to be removed from the standard box or they would have to use a specially made box just for the waves/revisions that include this particular figure.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 10, 2009, 01:36 AM
Pretty cool figure....pretty close to Dark Trooper size.  I'm not 100% sure where I'll display it, but I have to have the Kyle Katarn...possibly multiples!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2009, 02:38 AM
Kyle's not looking like a bad figure at all either.  I thought he looked too buff early on, but lately I think he's just right.  The guy in Jedi Knight wasn't a little wimp, and this figure's a pretty spot-on Jedi Knight figure other than the pants color.

I wish he had some firearms from the games...  A fusion cutter, rail gun, bryar pistol with working holster, Imperial Repeater (I'd love to see this weapon done someday), but alas there's not much hope.  Maybe a redecoed Katarn with new accessories someday?  I'd be happy with that.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 10, 2009, 11:20 AM
I don't know why, but the name seems whimpy to me. So every time I see the figure, I'm surprised.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 10, 2009, 11:44 AM
I'll get one or two of these as a novelty. I still have not yet read that series. So I'm not really tied to it. Doesn't really feel like a Star Wars story and the figure seems like it belongs in a different toy line. I'd like to see how Nom Anor is done. He's about the only one I know even a little about from the Vong.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2009, 03:09 PM
Personally I felt the Vong were a ST Alien rip-off...  They had that "super alien menace" thing going on like the Dominion in DS9, and I just didn't dig it.  I like the way they look, but that too can be linked to a species from Voyager...

Regardless, the figure looks very sweet, and I'll gladly pick up a couple of the comic set he's in as I want a couple of Kyle to do customs with.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on July 10, 2009, 03:16 PM
Personally I felt the Vong were a ST Alien rip-off...  They had that "super alien menace" thing going on like the Dominion in DS9, and I just didn't dig it.  I like the way they look, but that too can be linked to a species from Voyager...

I agree with you JJ, when I read the first book or two of NJO, they just came off as a cheap Borg/Jem'Hadar type rip-off thing.  Sort of turned me off the whole series really with how they wanted to assimilate all these planets and "vongify" everything.  "Luke Skywalker, we are the Vong.  Prepare yourself for assimilation".   ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 10, 2009, 03:21 PM
I loved them and the series. I hope they return some day. GO VONG!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2009, 03:25 PM
Yeah, and there was this species in Voyager in particular too, that would harvest the flesh and body parts of other species...  And they had a Breen-ish thing going on too.  It was annoying, but I like the figure anyway. 

They really did rip off the modern ST series though, to get these aliens, and that bugged me a lot.  I wasn't an NJO fan at all though anyway, as I didn't like the idea of killing main characters to drive sales/plot along.  That cheapened the writing to me and stuff.   :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 10, 2009, 03:32 PM
I think that every once in a while a main character has to die or you lose there ever being any suspense to the plot with those characters.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2009, 03:37 PM
That's been the excuse of the writers that did it, but my gripe was more with them delving into characters they didn't create (IE: Chewbacca), which they did so just as a cheap way to sell books.  That, to me, cheapened the series.  They were free to roam with their own creations as they will, and they did, but I felt the killing of any of the OT characters was lameness to an extreme.

I still believe they offed their own characters, again, as a less than talented way to grip readers with a, "Oh who's gonna die next year!?", type of thing.  I really felt they just didn't rely on their own writing skills as much as other EU has...  I always go back to the Zahn Trilogy as the pinnacle of good EU writing.  I don't know that much has ever come close to comparing to that.  Not that it isn't without flaw.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 10, 2009, 03:55 PM
Nothing has compared to the Thrawn trilogy, but it was so good, I think comparing other books to that series isn't the exact same, but is like having expected the prequels movies to be as good as the OT stuff.

It's too hard to argue this on the comp, (this is going to be a lot of fragmented sentences) but I think OT characters do have to die sometimes. It isn't like the writers of the NJO stuff just chose to kill Chewie on their own. To put it mildly I don't enjoy Star Trek so saying NJO stole species doesn't mean much to me because I don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway I'm glad the NJO existed and was 19 books long.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2009, 04:11 PM
I liked ASPECTS of NJO, but I hated teh Vong and offing of Chewbacca... 

I liked how the Jedi were handled, a lot of the combat/battles, etc.  I was disappointed with the writers though, on those two issues.  That was about all of the NJO that I found lacking.

I liked it mostly for the rebirth of the Jedi Order and how it was different than the PT Jedi Order and things...  That stuff was good to me.

Without knowing the Borg and stuff, it's tough to show how the Vong are clear rip-offs of them too...  You'd have to see it for sure.  Once you did though, it makes sense.  Especially the level of popularity the Borg had and things.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on July 10, 2009, 07:45 PM
Regarding the NJO and Chewbacca's death, I've heard it addressed a different way.  That being that in all of the adventures of our Rebel friends through the Saga and into the post ROTJ EU, they always managed to wriggle out of whatever conflict and everyone wound getting through it all making for happy endings.  Chewbacca's death was set up as a game changer.  To let the readers know that the stakes had been raised and that not everyone would be coming home.  This has been the case in the saga, with a sizable number of well established characters being killed:  Qui-Gon Jinn, Darth Maul, Jango Fett, Count Dooku, Mace Windu, Padme, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda, Palpatine and Anakin/Vader.  So why shouldn't the books have stakes along those lines?  Especially since the content of the books is subject to the approval of Lucasfilm.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 10, 2009, 09:53 PM
Yeah, and there was this species in Voyager in particular too, that would harvest the flesh and body parts of other species...  And they had a Breen-ish thing going on too.  It was annoying, but I like the figure anyway. 

They really did rip off the modern ST series though, to get these aliens, and that bugged me a lot.  I wasn't an NJO fan at all though anyway, as I didn't like the idea of killing main characters to drive sales/plot along.  That cheapened the writing to me and stuff.   :-\

Not to nit-pick, but ST ripped that bad guy idea from Babylon 5.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 11, 2009, 10:24 AM
Yeah I was going to mention that there is about nothing in anything anymore that wasn't taken from another source.

This is some really fascinating talk about Comic Pack TOYS we are having.  ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 11, 2009, 02:57 PM
Not to nit-pick, but ST ripped that bad guy idea from Babylon 5.

To be fair though, the "trait" of harvesting parts was what was lifted, not the whole characters, as far as the NJO villains...

The ultimate villain lift of the Vong is the Borg, ultimately, which I don't think really lifted from anything unless you count "Zombies" maybe. ;)  They had a zombie-ish thing going on, sorta.

But the Borg and Vong are really very similar.

That said, I do think Nicklab makes a good argument, but I'd argue that that still is simply a tactic to grab an audience rather than actual good quality writing from the authors themselves.  Again, holding Zahn as the benchmark.  LFL approved also doesn't mean a whole lot as Lucas seems to approve anything for $$$, and he seems to turn a blind eye to the EU a lot.  Clone Wars he seems to take a personal interest in, but a lot of the rest of it gets a rubber stamp it appears, and moves along.

I'm not knocking NJO totally, more or less just the Vong are my target...  And the CHEWIE death thing.  They offed a lot of important characters THEY created, and I was fine with that.  I just found offing Chewbacca to be a lame attention grabber was all.  They offed Solo Kids and stuff, and that I felt was more appropriate.  Chewie, in EU, is hardly a main character anymore.  They never utilized him much really because of his inability to speak.  Even Zahn kind of pushed him aside and focused more on Leia when they were on Kashyyyk, and invented a talking Wookiee even!

Killing him was, to me, just a sign that the authors didn't know how to use him as a character properly, and an attention grabbing tactic to get people to read their novels which, I believe at the time, weren't as popular as they were hoping they were going to be.

I still dig how the Jedi Order was resurrected though, and the Solo's and the kids, and the Rebellion growing into the New Republic, and yada yada yada.

To keep it on topic...

Anyone else NEVER find the last wave of comic packs at all?  I never saw Wedge/Borsk Fey Lya anywhere, though I did manage to see one Deena/Luke, and one Hett/Mundi pack.  Only one of each, but never that 3rd set.  I was curious if this was a nationwide thing, or if you guys saw them in abundance like Wave 6, and 7, while the Pittsburgh area again seemed to be this anomylous black hole of SW ****.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CorranHorn on July 11, 2009, 07:58 PM

To keep it on topic...

Anyone else NEVER find the last wave of comic packs at all?  I never saw Wedge/Borsk Fey Lya anywhere, though I did manage to see one Deena/Luke, and one Hett/Mundi pack.  Only one of each, but never that 3rd set.  I was curious if this was a nationwide thing, or if you guys saw them in abundance like Wave 6, and 7, while the Pittsburgh area again seemed to be this anomylous black hole of SW ****.

I only saw the Wedge/Borsk comic wave once and I'm glad I picked up my Wedge set when I did. Also only saw the DE Luke wave twice, never to be seen again. Most stores in my area are still swamped with either the first wave from last July or the SOTE wave from early in the year.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 12, 2009, 11:24 AM


Not to nit-pick, but ST ripped that bad guy idea from Babylon 5.

If only you know how right you are.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2009, 01:38 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_DarthKraytLoose1_TN.jpg)

New loose image of Darth Krayt available...  check it out on the front page. :)

I'm not into Legacy, so I'm never familiar with the characters.  I liked the Imperial Knights though, and he comes with the female featured in the Knight 2-pack's comic, which is neat.  He's freakish looking, and not a figure high on my list, but I'll take him.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: speedermike on July 13, 2009, 01:47 PM
See, this is where EU design falls apart.  This guy looks like a Vong, but seems to have no relation...

Kinda looks like a He-Man charcter.  Totally un-Star Warsy to me.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 13, 2009, 02:30 PM
I was coming in to say the exact same thing, SM.  I don't mean to be negative, but rarely does EU seem Star Warsy to me, and this is the top of that list!  He looks like a Gears of War character (as does the Vong warrior).
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 13, 2009, 03:40 PM
See, this is where EU design falls apart.  This guy looks like a Vong, but seems to have no relation...

Kinda looks like a He-Man charcter.  Totally un-Star Warsy to me.

FYI - His armor is Vong Based so there is relation, he was held captive by them. I like the figure be he needs some spray wipes to punch out the armor it's too silver and does not match the comic color wise.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 13, 2009, 08:32 PM
Looks like he's missing knee joints. DAMN!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: speedermike on July 13, 2009, 09:00 PM
"- His armor is Vong Based so there is relation, he was held captive by them. "

Oh.  Well that does make sense...my bad.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 13, 2009, 09:18 PM
"- His armor is Vong Based so there is relation, he was held captive by them. "

Oh.  Well that does make sense...my bad.

No worries, I thought I would clear it up. He is(actually now was) a pretty cool character but I have to admit your He-Man analogy is spot on.

I am 99% sure the knees bend but the knee armor is attached to the shin so it covers the joint.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 13, 2009, 11:16 PM
I agree he looks a little too silver, but not a deal-breaker for me.  I'd get the pack for the Imperial Knight anyway and Krayt will look good on my Sith Shelf, knee joints or not.   :D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 14, 2009, 04:23 AM
And another new image, this time of Kyle Katarn...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ComicKyleKatarnLoose1_TN.jpg)

This figure's sort of special to me because Kyle is one of my all-time favorite EU characters.  From his first appearance in Dark Forces (ah, the days of DOS games), to Jedi Knight where Kyle grew, to Mysteries of the Sith, Jedi Outcast, and Jedi Academy...  He's got a history that spans the trilogy and the New Republic era! 

He sports a working holster, super articulation, a nifty new sculpt that is accurate to his comic character, but it's also pretty accurate to how he appears in Jedi Knight as well, and of course he has his shoulder pad and lightsaber also.  His original 1998 figure came with a Bryar Pistol and "Railgun", which was from Jedi Knight (Heavy Stormtroopers used them and they're basically a bomb launcher of sorts)...  I'm hoping Hasbro maybe sees fit to redeco Kyle for a Dark Forces look with some more of his arsenal from that game. ;)

Kyle will look good killing a Vong, sure, but I think most of us will ultimately display him with the new (or the old, whichever) Darktrooper figure.  That's where he truly belongs. ;)

Head on out to the front page to check him out.  I can't wait to pick up a couple of him as I've already got custom plans for him.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 14, 2009, 10:43 AM
I actually played the first game, so I'm into this character.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on July 14, 2009, 09:46 PM
See, this is where EU design falls apart.  This guy looks like a Vong, but seems to have no relation...

Kinda looks like a He-Man charcter.  Totally un-Star Warsy to me.

Completely agree here. Guys like this, and the Vong warrior show a complete lack of understanding for the Star Wars brand. Yeah, I realize they're licensed, I'm just saying it's a piss poor decision and totally seems out of place in the brand itself.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 15, 2009, 12:59 AM
That Kyle is definitely an improvement over the POTF2 version!  Can't wait to add him to the collection!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2009, 04:03 AM
We got some better images of Katarn & Vong...  Enjoy!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ComicKatarnLoose_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ComicKatarnLoose_Full.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ComicVongLoose_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ComicVongLoose_Full.jpg)

And man, I gotta get a couple of this set.  Really.  Honestly.  That Katarn figure is fantastic.  :)  I honestly didn't think they'd ever redo Katarn because his true iconic EU is kind of a dead media.  Makes me wish they'd whip up a new great FPS game for Katarn...  He needs brought back, asap!

Plus Jan Ors made the list for Scott's votes...  Man, fantastic!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 22, 2009, 10:03 AM
Without getting into the whole Star Trek/Vong, people hate EU thing again. As much as I am a huge EU and Vong fan I really am disappointed in the Vong fig. Something about it just isn't what I had hoped for. I can't put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on July 22, 2009, 10:43 AM
I never read the NJO books or paid a lot of attention to Star Trek, so I can't say that ruined the character, but I have to say this action figure looks like one of the villians from Power Rangers (ie a guy in a flamboyant costume...).  Though I think Katarn and the Vong were in a Star Wars Tales comic, and they looked pretty much like this, so maybe that's a knock more on the artist than Hasbro.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 22, 2009, 02:44 PM
I think I found a flaw.  Kyle's ankles don't look to be articulated.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 22, 2009, 03:27 PM
I think you can blame the Vong on the art...  He's pretty true to who Kyle's kicking the crap out of in the comic they're from.  Kyle is almost a fan wank, as they're really trying to deliver EU in the comic packs from various sources other than comics.  Kyle looks like this in that comic, however his other EU established that he has "aged" by this point.  He had grey in his hair before the NJO era if I'm not mistaken.

I think this set's mostly about just getting a Vong army builder to people, and resclpting Kyle without taking him away from his true origins in terms of look and things.  This is complete Video Game Kyle, probably because the Artist didn't know any better, and I think Hasbro jumped on the chance to update the character.  I'm pretty ecstatic.

I thought the Vong looked good but I thought they wore helmets and things too.  It is what it is...  I didn't think they looked much different than this.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: speedermike on July 22, 2009, 04:50 PM
Yeah, but here's the thing about most SW design: it makes sense.  I think Katarn looks alright, but what purpose does that big turdy shoulder pad have?  It's just silly looking, and would look assinine on a real actor.  That's the type of thing that comic artists draw for the sake of drawing.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on July 22, 2009, 05:16 PM
Without getting into the whole Star Trek/Vong, people hate EU thing again. As much as I am a huge EU and Vong fan I really am disappointed in the Vong fig. Something about it just isn't what I had hoped for. I can't put my finger on it.

I have to agree, seems too muscular or something... like a He-Man figure.  I'll get a couple I'm sure, but I don't dig it as much as I had hoped I would.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Greg on July 22, 2009, 07:01 PM
*GASP* Comic packs that actually have me excited?!? Routine Valor 212th troops, Kashyyyk Troopers, Tholme, Blackhole Trooper... it's awesome!

(http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/news/images2009b/ComicConHasbro3.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on July 22, 2009, 08:52 PM
Those comic packs don't look too bad.  I'm happy to see we're getting essentially an Utapau trooper in that one pack, since that is one figure that I always thought should be repacked into the Legends assortment since it is really the one we see the most of in ROTS, and it was somewhat short lived on the pegs during the TSC days.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on July 22, 2009, 09:56 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2458/3747018873_8ea141daac_o.jpg)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2458/3747018873_8ea141daac_o.jpg

I don't get it.  A repaint and two accessories is a "comic pack" now?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 22, 2009, 10:00 PM
They will not let go of the Blackhole thing.......please let this concept get lost in a blackhole.

If they are going that route how about an office Palps with some of those statues.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on July 22, 2009, 11:32 PM
I don't get it.  A repaint and two accessories is a "comic pack" now?

Yeah, WTF is this?  I thought the trooper looked cool, but I'm not paying $14 for him and two pieces of crap.  Boo.   >:(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 23, 2009, 01:17 AM
I don't get it.  A repaint and two accessories is a "comic pack" now?

Yeah, WTF is this?  I thought the trooper looked cool, but I'm not paying $14 for him and two pieces of crap.  Boo.   >:(

Don't forget the 20 pages of crap that's in there with it!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2009, 02:26 AM
That one's confusing me too.  That's the kind of **** they can keep, especially with comic packs jacked up in price too.  I have no idea what it's from, and I'm just as glad since it makes ignoring the accessories easier.

Very lame.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 23, 2009, 12:28 PM
Wow, some really good stuff and a stinker or so.

Tholme/T'ra Saa SWEET!!! I've wanted these figures. Glad to see them in a comic pack.
Blackhole Stormie/bulbous thingy... PASS. Not really diggin' this set and it's NOT worth the scratch. Make this a single carded fig with the bulb as an accessory, and it's a sell.
Kashyyyk Clone Commander/Clone okay cool. Noth thrilled with the set, but I'll bite on one. They'll look good with my other Kasyyyk troops.
Utapau Lt. Clone/Grunt Clone Nice, I'll bite on this set. Prolly get 3-4 sets of this since I've got a rather large Utapau army of clones. (No joke, I've got over 130 Utapau clones.)
Ulic Qel Droma/Exar Kun SWEETNESS!!!! I've wanted those characters for awhile now also. It's a buy for me!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on July 23, 2009, 04:36 PM
are the rifles on the U. clones new or are they just the Evo. mold?  Something about them looks different, maybe just me.  Definately be getting these, especially the U's cause I got known of them.  Just hopefully the ankle joints aren't orange like the Airborne were cused with.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 23, 2009, 05:21 PM
I am not digging the sculpts of Exar & Droma, after years of waiting I am not impressed by either figure. I wonder if we will see better shots of the Cammie/Fixer pac and the DE Wookie/Alien in the powerpoint for future sets as we saw a few months ago.

The only set shown thus far that I am digging is the Traa/Tholme pack.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on July 24, 2009, 04:38 PM
knew that rifle mold was different, too ba d it sucks.

http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/showphoto.php?photo=32241
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2009, 04:45 PM
Ooohh... looks like a Walmart exclusive Dllr Npe & Plourr Ilo comic pack is coming this Fall!  I loves me some more Rogue Squadron Comic Packs!  :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2009, 05:56 PM
Hasbro SDCC'09 Comic Pack Slides:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/31.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/32.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/33.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/55.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/70.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on July 24, 2009, 06:04 PM
Ooohh... looks like a Walmart exclusive Dllr Npe & Plourr Ilo comic pack is coming this Fall!  I loves me some more Rogue Squadron Comic Packs!  :)

Yeah, once again WM's packs are actually the most interesting ones.  Go figure. :)  They could give me different pilot headsculpts till the cows come home and I'd buy them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 24, 2009, 08:17 PM
I've been hoping for a Master Tholme for a while, so I'm glad to see that set.

The WalMart sets look great as well, another trio of good looking sets. I hope these are as easy to score as the WM wave from earlier this year.

I'm looking forward to Darth Nihl and Jareal as well...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CorranHorn on July 24, 2009, 08:56 PM
Ooohh... looks like a Walmart exclusive Dllr Npe & Plourr Ilo comic pack is coming this Fall!  I loves me some more Rogue Squadron Comic Packs!  :)

Yeah, once again WM's packs are actually the most interesting ones.  Go figure. :)  They could give me different pilot headsculpts till the cows come home and I'd buy them.

And here I was all ready to contemplate making a Plourr, big ups to Walmart for getting us another cool Rogue pack. Most of these comic packs look great, the clone sets though are such a big snooze to me, they would be considered a waste if it were not for the fact that Hasbro includes these in the assortments so they can bring the goodness to other sets like the Ulic Qel-Droma/Exar Kun set.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Diddly on July 25, 2009, 03:04 AM
Man, I really love the new comic packs... because I can pass on nearly all of them. :) Definitely getting the Rogue Squadron pack though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 25, 2009, 11:13 AM
Finally Delia Blue!!!


I'm getting one of each of these comic packs except the blackhole trooper. Not worth it to me.

I'll get some extras of the Kashyyyk Scout/Clone and Cody's LT./Clone.

Now if I can get a couple extra Storm Commando troopers too.

These are decent sets, but the value is starting to wear thin. The whole ida of these was to sell them cheaper than 2 singles carded figures, while maybe not as articulated, and a way to give us obscure characters.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darby on July 25, 2009, 12:53 PM
I hardly ever buy comic packs and it doesn't like that's going to change any time soon.   :(  I will definitely get the Rogues, though this set is much less interesting than the last one, and probably the Utapau clones, since I dig them. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Diddly on July 26, 2009, 12:01 AM
Just noticed something... looks like Rom Mohc has the dreaded Training Clone legs.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on July 26, 2009, 12:11 AM
I'm pretty happy with just about all of these.  The Black Hole Stormtrooper with just a lone fig is easily the loser of the bunch.  Tholme and T'ra are my favorite - I never thought these would get made.   Delia and Nihl are a close second.  I like the Jarael and Rohlan set too, but surprised to see his face under the mask.  I haven't read the past few issues - is this actually revealed in one of the recent comics?   ???
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt R. on July 26, 2009, 04:20 AM
I barely buy comic packs, I will get the rogues, and the Utapau clones.

I believe the weakest CP is the Kashyyyk Clone AGAIN !! Just put him in the legends already and I not a huge EU fan, so they are a pass.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: David on July 26, 2009, 09:35 PM
Yesterday Derryl DePriest was giving a few people at the Hasbro booth including myself a look at the delayed Camie and Fixer figures. He wasn't letting people take pictures so you'll just have to take my word for it, but they looked great and were actually the deleted scene versions rather than the comic book design, which makes me a lot more interested now. I hope they get released soon! 8)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2009, 12:06 AM
Just noticed something... looks like Rom Mohc has the dreaded Training Clone legs.

The Hasbro kiss of death.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 28, 2009, 11:51 AM
These are all hit and miss for me. I'm liking all the troop sets, but everything else is too unfamiliar.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 28, 2009, 01:51 PM
I like about half of them.  Basically any pack that has someone holding a lightsaber, and the two rebel pilots.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 7, 2009, 10:36 AM
I cracked open the three new Comic-Packs last night. The only one out of the six figures I'm really happy to have is Sigal Dare. The rest, I'm sure I'll get some affection for once I read the included comics. Well done figures though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on August 11, 2009, 01:41 PM
I cracked open the three new Comic-Packs last night. The only one out of the six figures I'm really happy to have is Sigal Dare. The rest, I'm sure I'll get some affection for once I read the included comics. Well done figures though.

DA - did you find these at Target or Wal-Mart?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 11, 2009, 03:03 PM
I cracked open the three new Comic-Packs last night. The only one out of the six figures I'm really happy to have is Sigal Dare. The rest, I'm sure I'll get some affection for once I read the included comics. Well done figures though.

Is the Darth Krayt figure good? he doesn't seem to be SA (no ankles?), and his mask looks too big. Wouldn't it have been better (and even easier for Hasbro) if the figure came with an alternate head? Oh, well.........hopefully we get Darth Wyyrlok soon!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 12, 2009, 11:16 AM
Found the comic packs at Target.

As for Krayt, no articulated ankles. Is he good? Having not read the comic yet for reference, he seems alright.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 12, 2009, 09:14 PM
Has anyone scored that new Luke/Lumiya set? And is Lumiya the same color as in the comic...Hasbro said that they would do her that way.

And one question regarding Lumiya (I thought I'd put it here since I'm already talking about her). Luke shoots her ship down, and she's severly injured, which is how she becomes a cyborg. But in the Essential Guide to the Force book, with Luke and Vader on the cover, Lumiya is shown with Vader, and she's being treated by a medical droid. In this pic her body appears whole, even her arms, which are described as cybernetic in many novels, look real - is she a cyborg in this picture? How come she appears relatively unharmed? Did Vader and the droids fix her cybernetic body up to look real? Or is she still 100% organic here?  ???
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on August 12, 2009, 11:21 PM
There's a prototype image of Nom Anor in the new issue of ToyFare (#146).  According to the article, he's due out in a comic 2-pack that should be in stores in Fall '10.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on August 12, 2009, 11:54 PM
Has anyone scored that new Luke/Lumiya set? And is Lumiya the same color as in the comic...Hasbro said that they would do her that way.

And one question regarding Lumiya (I thought I'd put it here since I'm already talking about her). Luke shoots her ship down, and she's severly injured, which is how she becomes a cyborg. But in the Essential Guide to the Force book, with Luke and Vader on the cover, Lumiya is shown with Vader, and she's being treated by a medical droid. In this pic her body appears whole, even her arms, which are described as cybernetic in many novels, look real - is she a cyborg in this picture? How come she appears relatively unharmed? Did Vader and the droids fix her cybernetic body up to look real? Or is she still 100% organic here?  ???

That's actually addressed in the novels.  Not sure which picture you mean, but her cybernetic parts are made to make her look like she doesn't have any physical damage.  She uses a lengthy process to hide her head wounds as well and is something of a master of disguise further down the road.  They even talk about her ability to use the force to cloud how others perceive her, so that she can move around in public without showing any kind of disfigurement.  The figure, I think, is meant to be her cyborg self after being shot down and trained by Vader.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 13, 2009, 12:56 AM
I bought this figure on RS boards for $5 shipped. It's a nice figure and looks close to the pilot figure facially. The body has a lot of cybernetic detail and the exposed face shows a Terminator-esk look. Worth getting even if you are not into EU stuff.

I really want the Luke from this set, I just missed them at my Target today as I found the remnants of repacks.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 13, 2009, 08:02 AM
 r=Nicklab link=topic=17765.msg440092#msg440092 date=1250133694]
There's a prototype image of Nom Anor in the new issue of ToyFare (#146).  According to the article, he's due out in a comic 2-pack that should be in stores in Fall '10.
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Now that is good stuff!!!!!! Bring on Nom!!!!!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on August 13, 2009, 10:12 AM
Nom Nom Nom!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on August 13, 2009, 11:23 AM
Anyone have that magazine?  I'd love to see a scan of it.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: darthjaybay on August 13, 2009, 02:54 PM
I wonder what happened to the Visionairies Darth Maul, shown in the insider last fall?  Really looking forward to that figure!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 13, 2009, 03:34 PM
I wonder what happened to the Visionairies Darth Maul, shown in the insider last fall?  Really looking forward to that figure!

I think he is set for a 2010 Comic pack with an Older ROTS Style Obi-Wan. I have a friend in the industry who saw a line list, but I do not want to become Rebelscumish and start rumors. I think Hasbro did confirm he is a comic pack figure in a Q&A. Can anyone else confirm that?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on August 17, 2009, 03:11 PM
I wonder what happened to the Visionairies Darth Maul, shown in the insider last fall?  Really looking forward to that figure!

I think Hasbro did confirm he is a comic pack figure in a Q&A. Can anyone else confirm that?

From Q&A @ JTA (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4318/#details) - "We now have more information on the timing of this set. Due to a crowded Fall 2009 comic pack schedule, this pack has now been slotted in with the first wave of 2010 which should be on shelf approximately January/February.  Since it is still so far off, we don't want to confirm the figures in the pack except to say that your guess on one of the characters is incorrect."

Since we didn't see a BorgMaul comic pack at SDCC, either it wasn't ready to make it's debut yet or maybe it got bumped again to later in 2010 like the Fixer/Camie comic pack...
Title: 2010 Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 18, 2009, 09:13 PM
I'm just posting it here to separate it from the 2008-09 Comic Packs thread.

The upcoming Darth Nihl/Deliah Blue seems weird to me. Why not Wolf Sazen in Deliah's place?  ??? Maybe a Jariah Syn/Blue set would have been better? Hmm, Hasbro?
And wattabout the KOTOR set including Jarael? (Looks pretty frickin' good!)
AND has anyone noticed that the cyborg Darth Maul as seen in Visionaries wasn't shown in the SDCC 2009 presentation??!!  :o

The fans respond!  8)
Title: Re: 2010 Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 18, 2009, 10:50 PM
The upcoming Darth Nihl/Deliah Blue seems weird to me. Why not Wolf Sazen in Deliah's place?

She has big boobs and is more popular than the other characters. I am sure the others you mentioned will come out. I can see Syn with that Cowardly Lion Jedi as a Comic pack.

The KOTOR sets does look great! I am pissed they pushed the Norhogi set & Cammie set for the friggin Blackhole Stormtrooper and Clones sets. Talk about bull****. I think everyone has had their fill of Blackhole deco.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 18, 2009, 10:53 PM
I just took a peek at Nom. He looks like the aliens from they live when Piper put on those nifty shades.
I personally do not get the appeal of that character but to each his own. Any guesses on who he will come with?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on August 19, 2009, 12:25 PM
Could someone recap for me which comic packs have shown up in the last few weeks?  I've been out of the loop collecting-wise with the move and think I've heard rumblings of a new set of 3 showing up at Targets, and a set of 3 more walmart exclusives showing up  Is any of that accurate and if so which packs are out now?

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on August 19, 2009, 12:27 PM
That would be...

Kyle Katarn & Yuuzhan Vong
Darth Krayt & Sigel Dare
Luke Skywalker & Lumiya


I haven't heard anything about the WalMart exclusive sets myself.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on August 29, 2009, 02:15 AM
Looking forward to the Nihl/Deliah set. HOPEFULLY Nihl has more articulation than Krayt ... will the Sith Emperor be displeased?  ??? Really disappointed with the Krayt figure. And to me Sigel Dare is just okay as well. The Luke/Lumiya CP is better.   ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on August 31, 2009, 12:22 PM
Looking forward to the Nihl/Deliah set. HOPEFULLY Nihl has more articulation than Krayt ... will the Sith Emperor be displeased?  ??? Really disappointed with the Krayt figure. And to me Sigel Dare is just okay as well. The Luke/Lumiya CP is better.   ::)

Yeah Krayt was a let down. I am going to add a black wash to the armor to punch out the detail and add make him more accurate. His hands suck Bantha Balls. One is distorted from the rubber band and the other is open so once you remove the rubber band he can no longer hold it.

I really like the Sigel Figure but the other Imperials knights look mismatched next to her. I hope they reuse that body again and use the metallic red on the male body. It would be an easy update to head swap. Better yet if they rerelease that comic pack and update the paint instead of reissuing the Marvel duds.

Can this be a Q&A question?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 15, 2009, 06:55 PM
Have the WalMart exclusive packs been found yet?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on September 15, 2009, 09:30 PM
Have the WalMart exclusive packs been found yet?

The date that's shown on the Hasbro slideshow (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/swexperience/sdcc09/july24/hasbro-qa/pages/hasbro-presentation055.html) for these sets is September 1st.  But I find that really hard to believe because we've just been bombarded by new WalMart exclusives over the past few weeks.  And the best one, the AT-ST, hasn't even hit yet.  I suspect that the comic packs may ship at the same time as the AT-ST, which is slated for October 1.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on September 15, 2009, 10:04 PM
I haven't even seen the latest wave...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on September 15, 2009, 10:10 PM
I only just saw the Luke & Lumiya pack for the first time this morning.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on September 15, 2009, 11:03 PM
I got these few weeks ago, the only ones in my whole area, haven't seen since that again...

Kyle Katarn & Yuuzhan Vong
Darth Krayt & Sigel Dare
Luke Skywalker & Lumiya

I skip the sharad/A-mundi pack-Wedge & soem repacks from ANH.

I maight travel far east to see my luck this weeken hope to see some new c-packs or something cool.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 16, 2009, 10:17 AM
Have the WalMart exclusive packs been found yet?

The date that's shown on the Hasbro slideshow (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/swexperience/sdcc09/july24/hasbro-qa/pages/hasbro-presentation055.html) for these sets is September 1st.  But I find that really hard to believe because we've just been bombarded by new WalMart exclusives over the past few weeks.  And the best one, the AT-ST, hasn't even hit yet.  I suspect that the comic packs may ship at the same time as the AT-ST, which is slated for October 1.

Yeah, I hope these are delayed. Evo packs and Comic packs, both with Army builders, in just one month is just killer.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 16, 2009, 09:19 PM
Yeah, I hope these are delayed. Evo packs and Comic packs, both with Army builders, in just one month is just killer.

I hear yeah - but then that just backs them up against the Geonosis Arena sets over at Target. Some people might be army-building some of those sets for the Battle Droids....
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on September 23, 2009, 01:56 AM
I wonder when we'll get Wolf Sazen ... you know Hasbro's probably making him somewhere in a secret bunker under top surveillance without telling us fans. And a Jariah Syn would be welcome. And Darth Wryylok. I wouldn't mind a Darth Maladi vs. Shado Vao pack from the Vector arc of Legacy.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Scott on September 23, 2009, 11:37 AM
I got the Luke/Lumiya pack a few days ago and finally popped it open.  The Luke headsculpt is probably the best one to date as far as likeness...and I promptly put it on the VTSC Luke Bespin...the improvement is amazing.  I'll try and get a shot tonight
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on September 28, 2009, 05:43 PM
I got the Luke/Lumiya pack a few days ago and finally popped it open.  The Luke headsculpt is probably the best one to date as far as likeness...and I promptly put it on the VTSC Luke Bespin...the improvement is amazing.  I'll try and get a shot tonight

That's funny I did the same thing earlier this month when I got it. I did the same thing with the Hand Endor BP head, I put it on the VOTC body and man what a difference. Lando also got upgraded to the Smuggler head. I will be doing the same thing the Resurgance of the Jedi Luke. I want to update my X-Wing, Yavin and Stormie Luke.

Who ever has been sculpting has been doing a bang up job. The Han Endor BP, Lumiya Luke, Frigate Leia, Smuggler Lando etc has finally nailed the likeness of the main heroes. Even the Obi Wans this year have been solid.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on September 30, 2009, 04:50 PM
A couple new pics of the Rogue Squad pilot, Plourr Ilo turned up, and are on the front page, just click the thumbnail below!
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_ComicPlourIloLoose2_TN.jpg) (http://www.JediDefender.com)
She's bald, she's bad, she's another cool pilot figure.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JES on September 30, 2009, 06:40 PM
Kayne would approve.

Excuse me but...

Plourr Ilo is the best figure ever!!!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 10, 2009, 03:51 PM
I'm pi$$ed ... I CAN'T FIND THE 3 NEW COMIC PACKS!  >:( All my Target stores have on the pegs these days is the Admiral Thrawn and Prince Xizor packs, which, quite frankly, I really don't need (or at least I think I don't need). *Sigh*  :( Well, still in search for Luke/Lumiya and Krayt/Sigel Dare  ::) ... don't mind too much if I miss the Kyle Katarn pack ...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth Broem on October 10, 2009, 06:47 PM
Yeah, where the hell are the new comic packs at?  All I ever see it Amananman and that crappy officer. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on October 10, 2009, 09:40 PM
I've only been seeing the comic 2-packs at TRU.  That's where I scored mine.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: commandernarra on October 10, 2009, 11:51 PM
Wasn't Hasbro saying how happy they were with the success of these a year ago. What the frig happened. The upped the price so were to get more new and articulated figures. Now there impossible to find in the States, dropped as a line altogether over here, and a reissuing the lousiest choices. Add to that a few new packs which again have nothing but repainted friggin clones. This was a great source of EU, but I think it'll be dropped midway through next year. Sales, y'know and all that  ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 11, 2009, 12:20 AM
You know what figure I would like to see in the CP line one day...

ASAJJ VENTRESS!!! (from Obsession #5). :D Although it's another Asajj, in this comic she's wearing some sort of medical suit completely different from her usual outfits (NOTE: she wears this after Anakin drops her off a freakin' skyscraper on Coruscant). She's just a hot mess! She has all these tubes hanging off of her, and even one of her eyes are cybernetic. I would post a picture or make a link to a pic, but I don't know how to  :( (can anybody briefly explain?) This would also make a perfect opportunity for a SA Asajj since we've never gotten one - the TCW figure, which is probably the most articulated Asajj we have, only has 12 points of articulation. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on October 19, 2009, 03:13 AM
So I've gotten the three comic packs recently... 2 from Hasbro and 1 from a lucky find at a WM, which are seemingly getting some Comic packs in again.

Anyway, this is easily the weakest wave of comics...  The winner is who we'll start with...

-Katarn/Vong...  Being a biased Dark Forces/Jedi Knight fanatic, I can honestly say I was giddy getting a new Kyle.  What's nice about this Kyle is he's a good base for customizing.  It'd be super easy to make a Dark Forces one actually, especially if you have a handy Indiana Jones (with coat) around.

The Vong is a nice Vong army builder, and he's a generally nice figure.  Big, well sculpted, super articulated, very menacing looking. 

This set really is ideal for the comic packs line I think.  It delivers a lot.  Kyle's not perfect, he lacks ankle articulation and his stance is a tad wide, but neither is a deal breaker.  He's a decent figure for sure.  Overall this was a must-have set for me, and I'd like 2 more please! :)

-Lumiya/Luke...  This set I admittedly am not as into because I don't like Marvel and their storylines...  To be honest, I think they're some of the lamest EU in existance, so I have some knocks against this off the bat.  That said, I think both figures are quite nice and well executed.

Luke's got some parts sharing with past figures I believe (Jedi Luke legs in particular), and I think he's a nice post-ROTJ Luke overall.  It's actually Luke in a new outfit, and I find that a little refreshing, honestly. 

Lumiya is different and comes with 2 heads, which is nice.  I like the laser whip, and I like that LUke sports two sabers.  I'm pleased with the set then in that both are nice enough figures, but the source material means absolutely nothing to me, so the figures mean very little to me ultimately.  This is then the 2nd favorite in the wave, to me.  I rank it where I could've passed on it, but probably wouldn't have wanted to.

and the loser...

The LEgacy Krayt/Imperial Knight set...  The chick Imperial Knight is interesting, and I liked the 2-pack of Imperial Knights as well.  I really find their characters quite cool, and the figures have been executed quite well.  It's again where I think the source material lacks any zing to me, so I'm a little less interested, but I'm willing to see how it "mixes into my other stuff".  It's not like the Marvel things where some of them just didn't fit in, ya know?

But that brings us to Darth Krayt...  Who is probably the lamest looking character I've ever seen.  The sculpt is, I'm sure for what he is, pretty intricate.  There's also some nice paint aps there, and he's articulated well.  I just think he's one of the dumbest looking characters I've ever seen, and so I'm very uninterested in him, and can't really fathom where he's going to go on my shelves.  So that leaves me sort of regretting this set as a purchase.  The Imperial Knight's a nice figure and goes with the other two.  They make neat figures, they display and blend in with other stuff ok enough.  But Krayt is like a turd in a punchbowl.  He's really not my cup of tea.

So that's basically 2 sets I could've passed on and one I want extras of.  That's only happened one other time with comic packs, when the Marvel sets with the Mandalorians came out.  And I passed on them happily.

I really like the Dark Horse stuff better...  I could stand to see less Legacy though, if Krayt's any indication of the character design overall (I know he isn't, so I could probably handle more LEgacy stuff.  Lots of it really is quite nice...  just not Krayt...  at all).

I'd like to see more Zahn Trilogy stuff, Rogue Squadron, Crimson Empire (not even my favorite but I'd take stuff from it), Dark Empire (again, not stuff I liked a lot), Boba Fett series, and Shadows of the Empire as well.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 19, 2009, 11:33 AM
Jesse, I have to respectfully disagree with this wave being the worst comic wave ever, those are coming on the horizon with yet another Shadow-BlackHole-Misty-Black Stormtrooper coming. I felt the last batch was the weakest in terms of characters. (I do not know about you but I was not itching for Wedge Antilles in a steakhouse waiter outfit or Ki-Adi-Mundi in his 70's McDonald Character hat) In general I agree with most of you other comments on these sets.

I know he is not your cup of tea but Hasbro really dropped the ball on Darth Krayt: Armor deco, open hand pose, missing tattoo's on his face, shoulder armor popping off too easily. They missed so much detail and left much to be desired from a pretty kick ass Sith Lord. He wields two sabers yet they gave him an open hand??? WTF?  The sculpt was not very detailed and was sloppy, you can tell it eas rushed, it was very apparent. I like Sigel but the bright red metallic armor sticks out when compared with the first two Imp Knights. I prefer the bright armor look more but with CP's heartbeat flat lining a rerelease of the first two like this is now out of the question.

The Luke is actually pretty cool for a for a kit bash but his head sculpt is what made that set for me. I bought three of them and sold off the Lumiyas so I was able to upgrade my VOTC Luke Bespins heads to this much better sculpt for free. (The old VOTC Luke head looks like Luke was a beat up melted mongrel). I did not care for Lumiya but the figure was well done in terms of accuracy/detail. You nailed the Vong pack flaws and it was a good set.

It's a shame what happened to these sets when you take a step back in retrospect. They went too overboard with lame obscure characters that became hit/miss packs:

Wedge:Bad, Bothan:Good
Shared Hett:OK but useless, Ki-Adi with McDonalds 70's hat:OK but useless
Deena Black outfit:Good, Luke in black outfit: OK but useless with a bad headsculpt
Rereleasing all three again - STUPID MOVE!
The original Marvel packs: Dumb to begin with but releasing them again - SUICIDAL to this SKU.
Xizor & Leia: Nice set that they produced too many which clogged pegs. (The curse of Xizor lives!!!)
Talon Karrde & Thrawn: Nice set that they produced too many which clogged pegs.
The two series of Wal-Mart sets overall have been pretty dumb. They should have put some more desirable figures in there to drive the demand at the biggest retailer which would have extended the life of the line. C'mon who the hell wants a bald chic and an old Nien Numb pilot? More Shadow Scouts? A bug eyed Battle Droid with yet another Imp officer in a green outfit? These choices were just dreadful. The Ewoks were great, the first alien pilots were a nice novelty and the Amanin set would have been great had they made Tank in a grey clean imp outfit.

Hasbro really is to blame for messing the Comic packs up to a large degree for the character choices but the price hike also put a toll on the value/appeal of the sets, I do not blame them for that everything had to go up in price. I really hope we see the Cammie/Fixer, Norogi/Wookie packs get released from the pixeled picture that leaked they looked pretty cool. I was also hoping to get at least two more SOTE sets (Dash/Leebo, Guri/Snoova) but that seems like a stretch. At least Snoova was on Hasbro's wish list and Dash/Guri made the fans choice poll so it might not be that dire for them. After the Tholme/Tra Saa pack hits soon all the of the major CW EU Jedi have been made so I am happy about that.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on October 19, 2009, 11:43 AM
I got the Luke/Lumiya pack a few days ago and finally popped it open.  The Luke headsculpt is probably the best one to date as far as likeness...and I promptly put it on the VTSC Luke Bespin...the improvement is amazing.  I'll try and get a shot tonight

I finally spotted my first one of these this weekend.  At a K-Mart.  It was nearly $16.00.  Given that these have been out for over a month and it was the first time I've seen it, I went ahead and overpaid.

So I've got the Lumiya pack, I've got the Vong pack, and I still haven't seen the other one.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on October 19, 2009, 01:48 PM
I really hope we see the Cammie/Fixer, Norogi/Wookie packs get released

I'm not holding my breath waiting for those sets since we might not even get to the seven sets that were scheduled to arrive before them...

At SDCC, they listed 5 of the 7 as being due in "September" but I don't think there is any place out there that is even taking pre-orders for them yet.   If no one is taking pre-orders, that means Hasbro hasn't solicited them yet.  If Hasbro hasn't even solicited them, that's not a good sign for the long-term future of this line.  :-\
 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: evenflow on October 19, 2009, 07:26 PM
Comic packs are few and far between here in AZ, i thought it was going tobe easier to find stuff out here, no luck yet.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 19, 2009, 11:26 PM
I really hope we see the Cammie/Fixer, Norogi/Wookie packs get released

I'm not holding my breath waiting for those sets since we might not even get to the seven sets that were scheduled to arrive before them...

At SDCC, they listed 5 of the 7 as being due in "September" but I don't think there is any place out there that is even taking pre-orders for them yet.   If no one is taking pre-orders, that means Hasbro hasn't solicited them yet.  If Hasbro hasn't even solicited them, that's not a good sign for the long-term future of this line.  :-\
 

Good points, that's not a good sign at all. I hope at the very least the next wave makes it out which I think will given the long lead time for production that is needed. They will be a bitch to get but would be a good way to end if the series is indeed doomed. The only thing at least in Chicago is the pegs are pretty bare sans remnants of the repacks. This will make a a good Q&A question to find out what really gives.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth Broem on October 20, 2009, 06:47 PM
I would love to have Camie/Fixer but doubt we will ever see them.  They are whining enough about Legacy sales and can't see them sending those 2 figures out to retail.  Maybe we can hope for an exclusive?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on October 20, 2009, 10:09 PM
I'm not holding my breath waiting for those sets since we might not even get to the seven sets that were scheduled to arrive before them...

At SDCC, they listed 5 of the 7 as being due in "September" but I don't think there is any place out there that is even taking pre-orders for them yet.   If no one is taking pre-orders, that means Hasbro hasn't solicited them yet.  If Hasbro hasn't even solicited them, that's not a good sign for the long-term future of this line.  :-\
 

Agrievous.  I was a little surprised these didn't show up in the last round of solicitations that we posted, I find it surprising that there wasn't a rush to get more clone repaints in the marketplace.  That seemed like a solid addition to the assortment, if two characters you've never heard of are a tough sell, I have to assume 2 clones for $13 is a slam-dunk.  I was actually looking forward to the little Blackhole-- the clear dude, not the Stormtrooper.  Maybe it'll show up later... or at Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 20, 2009, 10:34 PM
HHMMMMMM....Clouded the future is...canceled they may be. ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 21, 2009, 05:51 PM
Here's a refresher of the comic pakcs in question:

Hasbro SDCC'09 Comic Pack Slides:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/31.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/32.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/33.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/55.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-09/70.jpg)

I'm looking forward to the Exar Kun/Ulic Quel Droma set. I'm excited for the Tholme/T'ra Saa set.
The blackhole trooper is meh to me.
The Kashyyyk clone set is also meh, but I'll get one. I MUST get at least 1 if not 2 sets of the Utapau troopers though. (I have well over 100 Utapau troopers, so I welcome the "officers" to command them)

The WM exclusive sets are ok. I like the pilot set but don't know who they are. I welcome the IG-Battle droid/Imp officer set. The storm commando set is meh. Not really digging the General Wseir guy with those big ass red bandoliers.

The two sets I'm most looking forward to though are those last two and their not "due" until next year. Delia Blue was (still is) high on my list of wanted figures and Nihl is a great addition to the Legacy comic book line. Jarael is a cool character. No clue who Rohlan Dyre is though. Kinda reminds me of that other red armored dude from last year. (Kinda like a Jedi Iron man) I can't think of his name though.

Anyway, I hope all of these sets come out, even if some of them I'm not as excited about. I know I'll get at least one of each.

-Sal
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 21, 2009, 06:52 PM
I am with you Sal. I am really looking forward to the Tholme pack and the Legacy pack for 2010. I am sure Hasbro will find a way to release most of the items as exclusives should the Comic packs die. I wish we at least saw good shots of the Cammie and Norohgi packs.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: evenflow on October 21, 2009, 07:42 PM
I really want the Exur set and the hologram set, I have little faith in Hasbro releasing anything anymore that is not animated in style.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: David on October 21, 2009, 11:38 PM
I REALLY hope Camie and Fixer get released eventually. I got a peek at them in person at SDCC and they're pretty cool. 8)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 21, 2009, 11:47 PM
I REALLY hope Camie and Fixer get released eventually. I got a peek at them in person at SDCC and they're pretty cool. 8)

Was the Noroghi on display too? I did not know that the Cammie pack was on display for a brief time.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on October 21, 2009, 11:56 PM
I did not know that the Cammie pack was on display for a brief time.

It was not formally on display.  Hasbro brought Camie/Fixer and a few other goodies to the show, but decided not to show them at the last minute.  They did end up showing them off to a few people though if you heard through the grapevine and asked them about them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 22, 2009, 02:59 AM
The CP line isn't getting canceled - it's one of Hasbro's best selling lines. Killing that line would be a HUGE mistake on Hasbro's part - so DON'T DO IT, HASBRO!  >:D I'm really looking forward to the upcomig 2010 sets, but that Darth Nihl figure is already getting on my nerves ... dunno why.  ???
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 22, 2009, 10:30 AM
I dunno. Although I'd like the imperials in these sets, I wouldn't be too heart broken should these never see the light of day.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 22, 2009, 11:12 AM
The CP line isn't getting canceled - it's one of Hasbro's best selling lines.

Mighty Jabba, you should start reading the Q&A's from Hasbro. They are signaling the lines end in the spring of 2010. They are also on record saying that sales have slowed down on these sets as well as Legacy overall.
Hasbro's mistake was weak figure choices and too many bad repacks. I do not mind them reshipping popular sets but they had a hard on for their first Marvel sets as well as the curse of Xizor striking again. The two sets that had a short run were the Quinlan/Faie & Luke Clone Emp packs. It would have made a lot more sense to repack those in the new red packaging.

Nevertheless this line is nearing the end of the road if it has not already. The Q&A's have that chilling Indiana Jones feeling. I do think we will see most of the above due to production lead times but I am not confident in the very cool 2010 sets including Cammie.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on October 22, 2009, 11:31 AM
Hasbro's mistake was weak figure choices and too many bad repacks

I'm looking at you, Tobbi/Leia/Fenn/Dengar.  Of all the obscure Marvel stuff to pick, they pick those?  The Mandos I get, but then pairing them with sub-par Hoth Leia and Purple Dengar.  Purple Dengar?  Really?

There were a few other duds that didn't sell well, but those Marvel Mando sets were the beginning of the end I think...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on October 22, 2009, 11:39 AM
Hasbro's mistake was weak figure choices and too many bad repacks. I do not mind them reshipping popular sets but they had a hard on for their first Marvel sets as well as the curse of Xizor striking again. The two sets that had a short run were the Quinlan/Faie & Luke Clone Emp packs. It would have made a lot more sense to repack those in the new red packaging.

Yep, meanwhile I still haven't found seen last of the recent wave.  ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on October 22, 2009, 12:11 PM
I just went through the Q & A compendium here and found these answers from Hasbro concerning the comic packs:

A very big lack of Marvel Star Wars Comic Packs, although the one you are bringing out Lumiya/Luke Skywalker rocks and I am glad to have the chance to pick this one up, can I also ask if you are going to bring out any of the following characters from the Marvel Star Wars Comic Packs - Crimson Jack and Jolli, Jaxxon and Amaiza, Cody Sunn-Childe and Demon - also when will the next Marvel Star Wars Comic Pack be available after the Lumiya/Luke one and what will it be. (RS, 2009-08-20)

     There are no plans for any of those characters, but there is an opportunity for them to appear in the Fans' Choice Poll and if so, we will consider them. Although, given each of their extremely brief appearances in the Marvel run, we wouldn't expect them to be higher on the rankings of most fans than, say, Valance the Hunter, Rik Duel, Dani, or even Kiro (none of which are in the upcoming lineup, either). There *are* two Marvel packs slated for next year, the next one appearing in late spring as a Wal-Mart exclusive, which will be revealed at Toy Fair.

Seems hopes are pretty high at Hasbro if they plan on revealing more at the 2010 Toy Fair!!

I know you don't want to get into financial figures, but I'm wondering how well the comic packs are doing and if they will be around for the foreseeable future. I hope they are here for the long term since there are so many great characters left to make. Knights of the Old Republic and Invasion need their first figures, and dark side Leia from A New Hope Infinities could be a cool one too (hint hint)! (SWC, 2009-08-20)

     We have a lot of heart for the Comic Packs, since some of the most exciting stories from the EU have been told in comics and there are somany exciting characters to draw from. That said, the line does need a boost as it's been a little sluggish versus expectations. We have beenworking on a lot of new and exciting figure tools (see this fall's lineup for an example!) and hope that fans share the same excitement we have. Right now, we are planning comic packs to run through 2010 at least, but we really do need fan support for all the packs to ensure that we continueon a healthy pace through 2010.

Ok so Hasbro plans to run the comic packs through 2010 at least, awesome I'm so excited.  Now if Hasbro would actually get the new comic packs sent out to the stores I could support the comic pack line :(

 How many figures can we expect to see in 2010 for the non Clone Wars collectors, and how many Comic 2-packs? (TPU, 2009-09-10)

     There will be approximately 45 figures in the Legacy basic figure lineup for 2010, about the same number of basic figures that will be available in 2009. As for Comic Packs, we don't want to make release any numbers right now as the exact number is still up in the air.

WHAT?!?  Why don't you know Hasbro?  Is it because there are so many awesome characters to choose from?  Is it because you still have a ton from this year to release?  Is it because distribution sucks so bad that fans can't even find the most recent wave at retail?

I'm trying to hold on to the hope that the comic packs continue.  They are alot of figures that I want for my own collection.  I could easily see these become an exclusive line though as well.  I love how it's up to us to keep this line going even though distribution for the comic packs sucks.  I haven't even seen the newest wave at all, ever.  Now I can go out and buy Leia/Xizor and the Marvel packs anywhere, but the stuff I really want, not at all.  Hasbro needs to realize that fans don't want their Mandalorians in pastels and Sexy-time Leia should never have come with Xizor.  Better choices Hasbro, better choices and this line wouldn't be suffering at all.   


Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Scott on October 22, 2009, 01:01 PM
Forgive me for being a bit anti-EU here but don't you think that is part of the problem.  Hell, tertiary PT and OT characters are having a hard time selling, why would a secondary EU character sell?   

Simplifying...there are three main groups when it comes to EU

#1 People buy EU only
#2 People buy EU and Movie Stuff
#3 People buy Movies Stuff only (and think Marvel repaints are silly)

I'd say #2 is the largest group but #3 is pretty close to being right there.  So when almost a a quarter to a third of your potential market is going to avoid them...it is little wonder they are having a tough time making sales.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on October 22, 2009, 01:25 PM
Yeah, I think Scott is on the nose a bit with the character selection of these comic packs.  I'm not anti-EU either, although I'll admit I'm unfamiliar with the majority of it, but I have ended up buying quite a few of these comic packs along the way.  They have provided a lot of nifty figures I think, and even if it is ending, EU fans have to be fairly happy with what we've gotten compared to the way it used to be regarding EU stuff.  Like I said, much outside of the Thrawn Trilogy stuff, some Rogue Squadron stuff, or a few other comic stories, I don't know a lot about the Expanded Universe so it seems like there has been a decent run of characters throughout this line (so far).  I wouldn't be crushed if it ended, as it doesn't seem like there is ever anything new on the pegs anyways.  Like it was just mentioned, if the "realistic" movie characters are supposedly struggling at retail, I would certainly think that this EU stuff is.  I know that it gets a lot of support online (and in polls), but I just don't know if that fully translates to retail or not.  It seems, at least locally, that unless something is shipped only once (or otherwise short-shipped), it tends to sit on the pegs quite awhile.  I think Target and WM here locally have both had the same comic packs on the pegs for the majority of this year.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on October 22, 2009, 01:29 PM
The thing is though Scott is that Hasbro has maintained that the comic packs have been strong sellers.  The problems really started this year with the horrible distribution.  If the comic packs would have hit the shelves like they were planned to we wouldn't be at this point at all.  
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on October 22, 2009, 01:37 PM
The thing is though Scott is that Hasbro has maintained that the comic packs have been strong sellers.  The problems really started this year with the horrible distribution.  If the comic packs would have hit the shelves like they were planned to we wouldn't be at this point at all.  

I admit I'm basing my info on what you guys are saying, but if these were good sellers and then Hasbro makes the distribution suck and then says these have stopped selling well, then I would put that on the distribution more than the character selection. Even though I could see there being enough EU dislikers out there to slow the line down over time too.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on October 22, 2009, 01:45 PM
Right now the blame does fall squarely on the shoulders of distribution.  The part about character selection comes from Hasbro saying that the comic packs have to sell well through 2010 in order to continue.  If we get all that has been advertised for the end of this year and the new stuff for next year as well with fewer Marvel packs and repacks clogging the pegs then the comic packs should sell through.  But all of that is based off of the comic packs hitting the shelves in the first place.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on October 22, 2009, 03:45 PM
I can't agree the blames falls squarely on distribution...  I have stores locally with nothing much on the pegs as far as comic packs go, lots of room for something new.  THe problem was it took a while for the variety they did have to sell down.

I love the comic packs, so don't get me wrong.  I would happily buy lots more of them.  I think they saw a significant slowdown in sales, similar to Legacy, and that's not just a distribution issue.  It's economic woes, it's character selection (I think Jeff's point on the Marvel sets was spot-on.  Many of those packs were dumped at local discount stores for $9.99, and it was the sets Jeff mentioned), it's kids having the animated line first and foremost.

I think comic packs CAN continue, but I think limiting them is the best option.  I think the Legacy line should see a scaled down release schedule as well.  It's too much.  And it's lean times for this stuff, so scaling down/back the ammount would help alleviate all the issues.  I've got tons of stores locally with room for new comic packs, they just don't seem to order much beyond a case at a time, if anything at all.  That's not a good sign.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on October 22, 2009, 04:09 PM
Ok I have to ask, how do you limit them?  Are we just talking about the characters that Hasbro chooses?  The amount of comic packs released per year?  If your local stores have room for new comic packs and they aren't receiving them isn't that a distribution problem? 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on October 22, 2009, 04:28 PM
No, not entirely...  If there's a backlog of comic packs not moving at all, and easily discernable pegwarmers, and repacking the same things that aren't selling, that's a distribution issue. 

Unfortunately what happened as near as I can tell is things backed up because sales slowed down on them.  Some of it is because they were lame choices (again Jeff's Marvel example, which backed up here a lot and took a while to sell through, and even saw dumping at discounters), some I'm sure is economic issues (something has to go, for many people, and comic packs are a secondary line like Deluxe and whatnot...  That's probably what went then, due to its higher pricetag), and you add another steep price increase on these ($9.99 to $12.99 isn't a short jump) and there's a mix of reasons.  I'd also say some distribution issues probably didn't help, but they just don't seem to me to have been a huge impact as these other issues were.

Now what has happened is retailers sales data shows the line slowed down, so they order less whether there's space for more or not.  They fear their ability to sell-through at a rate they want, and so they'll only order a case at a time...  That's not distribution, that's simply retail saying these don't sell fast like they used to.

The thing that doesn't imply distribution issues (I'm sure there were some things that should've been packed less or more) to me, is that there really weren't many sets one could cite as constantly repacked, constantly clogging up the system...  It's not like Yarna, or LEgends Plo Koon...  The only set I see routinely is the Shadows of the Empire one, and that really isn't preventing stuff from getting to the pegs...  Retailers refusing to order more, for one reason or another, is.  They just don't want a massive glut of sets out there right now it seems, and at this time of year usually they're anxious to have the pegs filled.  I think they just don't have faith the line is selling well anymore.

I think if the comic packs continue, you'll see less pegspace devoted to them...  That's how they'll be limited by retail.  I think Hasbro, if they continue them, will look at simply doing fewer sets in a year...  Similar to what Legacy may be seeing in 2010 as well.  Some waves will get cancelled, things will shift around, and so on.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on October 22, 2009, 05:55 PM
Alright thanks for the clarification on distribution :) So how does Hasbro fix the problem?  Do the comic packs that debuted at SDCC get moved to retailer exclusives or boxed sets?  Are boxed sets a viable alternative to comic packs?  Would you rather get 2 figures and a comic for $13 or 5 figures for around $40?  Personally I could see some of these getting moved in that direction, I would gladly pay $40 for a 5 pack of Legacy characters or KotOR characters.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on October 22, 2009, 06:01 PM
Do the comic packs that debuted at SDCC get moved to retailer exclusives or boxed sets?

If the line crashes and burns...  

The ones they've shown us (the 7 sets from SDCC'09), those I'd imagine just get delayed.  Let the dregs at retail now get clearanced out and then re-launch.  Instead of being for Fall 2009, they end up being Spring 2010 comic Pack product.

The ones that are rumored but not yet officially confirmed/revealed (Camie/Fixer, Noghri/Wookiee, etc), they'll probably be the ones that get dumped as an exclusive or dropped someplace else (basic figure line, box sets, battle packs, etc).  For example, they have already confirmed that the rumored Visionaries Comic Pack has been taken out of the regular Comic Pack line and made into the SDCC'10 exclusive Comic Pack (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=19812.0).
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on October 22, 2009, 06:02 PM
I think the problem falls mostly on the shoulders of Hasbro. 

How many times do we need to see that Marvel Vader/Rebel repacked?  Why when a new wave hits does it have half of them as repacks?  That's the main problem in my eyes for places like Target and TRU - but then you look at Wal-Mart which is overstocked with their exclusives Comic Packs that aren't selling, so at that point they don't have room for the new stuff.

The price hike on these is an issue too, when they were $9.99 we felt like we were getting a bargain because basic figures were almost $7 anyway, which is close to what they are now.  That's not the case anymore as these cost close to $14, while figures are around $7.50.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on October 22, 2009, 06:14 PM
Hasn't the Vader/rebel set only been repacked once thus far? IIRC after the original TAC release, that set only had deco changes that came in later TAC case revisions.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on October 22, 2009, 06:15 PM
but then you look at Wal-Mart which is overstocked with their exclusives Comic Packs that aren't selling, so at that point they don't have room for the new stuff.

Wow.  I haven't seen those in a looong time.  Seems like they came in went in the matter of weeks in my neighborhood, but we're talking WM so that's no suprise I guess.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on October 22, 2009, 06:30 PM
Hasn't the Vader/rebel set only been repacked once thus far? IIRC after the original TAC release, that set only had deco changes that came in later TAC case revisions.

I think there have been at least two.  The first version came with mostly black vader.  Then there was a TAC repack in a later wave with bluish aps on the Vader.  And now we have a second repack in the Legacy packaging.

Personally, I don't think that pack is the problem.  Just like the Han Trooper/Chewie and Luke/R2 packs, these seem to sell thru eventually, at least around me.  There's always some residual demand for these core characters, so I don't mind a repack of these guys every 3-4 waves. 

I also don'tsubscribe to the theory that EU figures are not in demand.  They have sold well in previous waves and the price of the comic packs is still pretty fair at $13 in most places.  There's a lot of interest in the upcoming basic figure EU wave, so there's obviously some demand out there.  I don't even mind the goofy comic paint jobs (blue shading on stormtroopers with red eyes?), but maybe that has hurt demand among some collectors.

Personally, I blame the poor sales on the timing/distribution of the cases and the sheer number of repacks out there.  The latest wave has just three new sets of figures versus 5 repacks.  The repacks are not core characters, so I can see where these might be pilingup fast in some areas.  That mix of figures makes no sense to me - there are still people in MN that are having trouble finding the latest 3 figs. 

The other issue is timing.  I have two Wal-Marts near me that have only recently re-stocked with old cases of the Tobbi/Leia/Fenn/Dengar wave.  One store got two cases of them within the last couple months - how are they ever going to push through 16 old packs that have been available for a year already?   I'm not sure if this a Wal-Mart DC issue or Hasbro shipping this stuff late, but seems like an average individual store shouldn't be getting more than 2-4 cases of the same stuff. 

Be it demand or distribution, having the same old stuff on the pegs for a year or so is going to hurt the line.  I really like all of the new CPs shown thus far and will still be picking up 2x of each...assuming I ever see them. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Scott on October 22, 2009, 11:44 PM
I wasn't saying there isn't demand for EU figures...I am saying there IS a segment of the collecting world that will not buy EU figures (or are more selective in those purchases).  While the quantaties of packs made and repacks haven't helped, neither does trying to sell the same product to fewer people.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on October 23, 2009, 12:40 AM
Agreed, that there's a demand for EU, but I'm with Scott that EU isn't basic...  The demand isn't equal, and when the demand becomes less equal we see less interest.  I think that's the basic negative that impacts a lot of the more obscure basic figures like Yarna...

I gotta say, if they never made Yarna, I'd not have been upset by that.  I don't know if that sentiment puts me in the minority or the majority though.  It seems to me though, EU is generally second tier...  Or third.  Some of it's very liked, some of it isn't...  I think that break-up in demand is what hurts it.  I've barely bought any Marvel figures at all.  Luke/Lumiya is the only set off the top of my head that I think I have bought maybe. 

But how many Marvel sets have come out?  That's a lot of stuff that I, as a fairly devoted consumer, have passed on.  I'm falling into a similar pattern with $25 vehicle assortment items.  I'm just passing...  Some of it's nice but I just can't justify the price, and some of it just doesn't appeal to me anymore.  I'm becoming the statistic of lost sales Hasbro's witnessed in the last year or two, I guess. 

Locally most of my stores don't have a massive glut of comic packs.  There's room for more, especially Target which has very, very few on the pegs.  I'd say at least half my WM's are the same, and the other half have semi-full pegs...  Most of those stores (WM's) have a lot of their exclusive wave still left, which they all got a TON of cases of the exclusive wave.  It sold out at all other stores pretty well save for the odd pack here and there.  Those did really well here.

This is just my take though of course, from what I see locally.  There's a lot of space for new, and nobody ordering it because it's slowed down in sales...  It's probably even more annoying than having a glut of stuff on the pegs, actually.  At least that the problem's visually obvious.  With comic packs it's almost like the retailers have given up on them completely here.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on October 23, 2009, 01:28 PM
I guess the question I'm left with now is how are comic packs ordered?  Is it like basice figures that are automatically re-ordered by the system once a certain amount sells or is it all done manually?  I know my local Wal-Mart is set up to re-order automatically but are they all like that?  The reason why I ask that is because it changes the landscape if the store's computers are placing the orders and there isn't anything there to replenish the stock, rather than an independent department manager saying 'Oh these aren't selling.'  I guess the easiest way to find out what's going on with these is either a direct question to Hasbro or see what the bigger chains of Wal-Marts and Targets do during their next reset.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on October 23, 2009, 01:36 PM
I guess the question I'm left with now is how are comic packs ordered? 

Target and Walmart both use forms of auto-ordering.  At Target, there is a minimum number pre-determined, usually based on the casepack size.  When the count goes below the minimum, the computer system re-orders more.  

At most Targets, the Comic Pack count at the moment is four (half a case).  In other words, you could have 4 comic packs on 3 pegs and the system thinks that is enough inventory.  Even though there is room for another case (or maybe even two), you're never going to get more until the count drops below 4.

That's why it's not just a simple distribution issue.  Hasbro may have more to sell and there may be more at the Target DC waiting to be sold, but the store is never going to get them unless someone buys the duds to get the count low enough to trigger a re-order.  :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on October 23, 2009, 02:53 PM
So what about stores that are below the required number?  My local Wal-Mart has below their required number to replenish and nothing's being shipped to them.  The other thing I wonder is do we even know if DC's have more to ship out once the store hits the magic number?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on October 23, 2009, 02:54 PM
I still don't get the arguement that EU figures are hurting/not helping sales.  These are "comic packs" so by definition I would expect to find more EU based characters than OT or PT figures.  We've had this debate before, but I think Cade Wkywalker is a more desired figure than the 47th version of Vader or C3PO.  It's also a way to integrate current toy buyers and comis/EU - maybe getting some of the toy buyers to pick up a comic book or novel here or there to find out more about certain figures or storylines.  

As comic packs, these are always going to sell less than the basic figure series.  I totally understand that some people aren't into EU, but I would argue that some people aren't into multiple versions of the same character either and would easily pass on a Vader/Stormtrooper set.  From a kid perspective, I'd also think kids might be more into an exciting EU storyline from Dark Horse vs. obscure cantina aliens that were only on screen for half a second.  

One additional point here - I think many of today's SW collectors are facing the dilema of money and space constraints.  If you need to cut back on something for either reason (or both), the comic packs are an easy target given their size and added price point.  This could certainly be driving slower CP sales, but I don't think that's solved by issuing OT/PT figures versus EU figures.  
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on October 23, 2009, 02:59 PM
So what about stores that are below the required number?  My local Wal-Mart has below their required number to replenish and nothing's being shipped to them.  The other thing I wonder is do we even know if DC's have more to ship out once the store hits the magic number?

This is where I think it comes back to distribution issues again.  If stores are falling below 2-3 packs and either get a case from 2007 or don't get anything at all, how can you blame the lack of sales on anything other than distribution?  

Even though there is room for another case (or maybe even two), you're never going to get more until the count drops below 4.

Also just a correction on Jeff's earlier post - the reorder "pull" system may not kick in to get a new case until the count falls below 4, but there are also "push" systems in place to ship new cases from the distribution centers or clear out the D/Cs periodically.  I've seen stores with counts well above the minimum get additional product shipped in, though I'd agree that the chances of seeing new stuff is much greater when you get below the min count.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Scott on October 23, 2009, 03:44 PM
I still don't get the arguement that EU figures are hurting/not helping sales.  These are "comic packs" so by definition I would expect to find more EU based characters than OT or PT figures.  We've had this debate before, but I think Cade Wkywalker is a more desired figure than the 47th version of Vader or C3PO.  It's also a way to integrate current toy buyers and comis/EU - maybe getting some of the toy buyers to pick up a comic book or novel here or there to find out more about certain figures or storylines.  

As comic packs, these are always going to sell less than the basic figure series.  I totally understand that some people aren't into EU, but I would argue that some people aren't into multiple versions of the same character either and would easily pass on a Vader/Stormtrooper set.  From a kid perspective, I'd also think kids might be more into an exciting EU storyline from Dark Horse vs. obscure cantina aliens that were only on screen for half a second.  

One additional point here - I think many of today's SW collectors are facing the dilema of money and space constraints.  If you need to cut back on something for either reason (or both), the comic packs are an easy target given their size and added price point.  This could certainly be driving slower CP sales, but I don't think that's solved by issuing OT/PT figures versus EU figures.  
The basic line though is also supposedly suffering from reduced sales...so if both are down the Comic Packs are down further just based on the character mix.  While I don't advocate putting in movie figures in to the packs I think that having a narrow scope is a part of the problem.  

I don't think the EU thing is the major problem...the POTF2 Malikili repacking of sets continually does not help.  Especially in such a collector focused line where most people only need the new sets.

And while you may not want Vader #24 or Luke #33, kids do which is in the end moves the product out of the stores.  When is the last time you saw a main character not sell?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on October 24, 2009, 12:30 AM
So what about stores that are below the required number?  My local Wal-Mart has below their required number to replenish and nothing's being shipped to them.  The other thing I wonder is do we even know if DC's have more to ship out once the store hits the magic number?

My guesss here, and this is just what I was trying to convey Corax, is that the "minimums" have been lowered...  That's what I'm afraid of at least, as I think I'm seeing similar to what you are, in that there's a LOT of room on the pegs for comic packs and stores aren't getting them.  There's a possibility that Hasbro's got issues with manufacturing on these too, that happens from time to time, but I don't think so.  I'm thinking retail's seen a decline in sales, and so they've put a reduction on the minimum before ordering so they can shrink the shelf space for them or something.

My WM condensed its comic packs last reset...  This is my nearest store, and now they've got relatively fuller pegs.

Target on the other hand has the same ammount of space but get (at best) a case in at a time.  They just got one in the last day because there's remnants of the new comic packs (the repacked ones) and the SOTE sets (3 of them).  That's about 6 comic packs total on all the space for them.

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I don't think the EU thing is the major problem...the POTF2 Malikili repacking of sets continually does not help.

The above quote really struck home to me...  SOTE Leia/Xixor is like FLYSHIT here, and so are a number of Marvel packs.  It's ugly.  It's Yarna ugly.  If retail's looking at condensing space then on these at all, these lingering sets really gum up the works.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 24, 2009, 10:33 AM
I haven't thought about it since I'm caught up on the comic packs, but now that they're in discussion, all my stores are overloaded with them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Corax on October 24, 2009, 12:16 PM
Are they overloaded with current packs Darth_Anton or older packs?  From the latest round of Q and A's it sounds like the comic packs are a go for the Spring of 2010 and they are hopeful that what is out there now sells through during the holiday season.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darby on October 24, 2009, 01:36 PM
BAD figures are coming in now, a case at a time, but there have been no comic packs since spring.  The pegs are half full.  The info about minimums is very helpful - I think retail's interest in these as an SKU is probably going way, way down.  To me, it's a combo of things: the economy and the loss of collectors; somewhat poor character selection in these most recent packs (they don't do lots of Leias in the basic line for the same reason they don't do lots of Padmes - yet they did three in a row in the CP's this year, two of which you can find anywhere.)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Scott on October 24, 2009, 03:56 PM
I got the Luke/Lumiya pack a few days ago and finally popped it open.  The Luke headsculpt is probably the best one to date as far as likeness...and I promptly put it on the VTSC Luke Bespin...the improvement is amazing.  I'll try and get a shot tonight
Finally got a picture of this


(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/4618_ebcd4a83ff30719939c0745a66afe6ed892dcdd6)(http://thepropzone.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/lukeskywalker.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 24, 2009, 11:29 PM
Damn ... my local Targets haven't seen the age of the new comic packs yet ... all they have is Leia/Xizor  >:(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 25, 2009, 10:38 AM
Are they overloaded with current packs Darth_Anton or older packs?  From the latest round of Q and A's it sounds like the comic packs are a go for the Spring of 2010 and they are hopeful that what is out there now sells through during the holiday season.

Last wave before the new packaging and the re-packs from the new packaging.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Paul on October 25, 2009, 11:57 AM
I got the Luke/Lumiya pack a few days ago and finally popped it open.  The Luke headsculpt is probably the best one to date as far as likeness...and I promptly put it on the VTSC Luke Bespin...the improvement is amazing.  I'll try and get a shot tonight
Finally got a picture of this


(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/4618_ebcd4a83ff30719939c0745a66afe6ed892dcdd6)(http://thepropzone.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/lukeskywalker.jpg)

That is 100% win.  I am going to have to track that comic pack down now.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on October 25, 2009, 10:06 PM
Cripes, the shelves are filthy with these things around here.

I'd be willing to buy any of these things you guys need in exchange for TCW Wave 7. (Padme, Matchstick, etc)I need all 4...

I am just completely over waiting for this &*@#! wave to arrive already...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on October 26, 2009, 12:30 AM
I completely understand Hasbro's rationale with the concept of the reissue as placeholder.  But they did so many reissues that I only see those, and not the new comic 2-packs.

I wound up getting the new comic 2-packs at Toys R Us Holiday Express stores.  And that was simply because a lot of other collectors hadn't discovered them, and the only really new stock in those stores has been the comic 2-packs and the starfighter vehicles.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on October 26, 2009, 12:33 AM
Cripes, the shelves are filthy with these things around here.

I'd be willing to buy any of these things you guys need in exchange for TCW Wave 7. (Padme, Matchstick, etc)I need all 4...

I am just completely over waiting for this &*@#! wave to arrive already...

You are definitely in the minority on those comic packs my friend.   :(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on October 26, 2009, 03:28 AM
I agree...  Around me, you're lucky to see the REPACKED (in red) comics that ship with the new ones like Luke/Lumiya or Katarn/Vong...  I'd like 2 more Katarn/Vong packs and another Luke/Lumiya one.  I'm right now not that hopeful. :(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on October 26, 2009, 05:36 PM
Saw Luke and Lumiya today at K-Mart. They also had a TON of Hasbro boxes right off the truck sitting in the aisle waiting to be opened. I am hoping those contain something good...will have to check back later tonight.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 27, 2009, 02:02 AM
Saw Luke and Lumiya today at K-Mart. They also had a TON of Hasbro boxes right off the truck sitting in the aisle waiting to be opened. I am hoping those contain something good...will have to check back later tonight.

Write back on what you find - even I'm anxious!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on October 27, 2009, 10:56 AM
Weird...I went back later that night and didn't notice anything new in the SW section, but the huge stack of boxes was gone. Maybe it was all GI Joe/Transformers stuff?

This place is right across from my new office, so I will keep a close eye on it. Bummer...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on October 28, 2009, 05:24 PM
Weird...I went back later that night and didn't notice anything new in the SW section, but the huge stack of boxes was gone. Maybe it was all GI Joe/Transformers stuff?

This place is right across from my new office, so I will keep a close eye on it. Bummer...

Damn.   :(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on November 16, 2009, 08:07 PM
Hope no one was expecting new comic packs anytime soon...  from the Q&A at HH (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2009/11/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-19.html):

3. Do you have any updates on the timing of the Fall 2009 Comic Packs that were shown at SDCC? Most e-tailers haven't even started taking pre-orders for them yet, which indicates they are probably farther away than we'd like. That fact, combined with some of the recent "Legacy Slowdown" answers in the Q&A is leading to many theories that the Comic Packs line may be ending sooner than anyone wanted.

** They are farther away than we'd like. We have really been struggling with the Comic Packs, but there is some good news - the remaining Fall packs should be out around March time frame. We're still hopeful that we can get to the Spring 2010 ones shown at Comic Con eventually as well, but right now we're focused on the Fall ones

So, anything that said "Fall 2009" at SDCC is now "Spring 2010" and anything that prevously said "Spring 2010" is now a "maybe someday".   :(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2009, 08:33 PM
Given what I've spent, I'm ok with that.  I just will be disappointed if we don't get what was pictured (at some point down the road) because those were some of the better figures in this series I've seen...  Cammie/Fixer, Noghri...  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on November 16, 2009, 08:42 PM
Future Comic 2-Packs (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5448/#details)

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A. The comic packs have really been struggling lately, and right now we will be challenged to get to the 2010 packs that were shown at Comic Con.  That said, here's the numerical lineup through the end of the year (after Darth Krayt & Sigel Dare, pack #8):

Republic #83: Bogey Squad (#9)
Routine Valor: Commander Cody's Lieutenant and Trooper (#10)
Tales of the Jedi #6: Exar Kun & Ulic Quel Droma (#11)
Republic #65: Jedi Masters Thome & T'ra Saa (#12)
Classic Star Wars Early Adventures #1: Black Hole Stormtrooper (#13)
 
Beyond that, we'll hold onto that as the packs may not get out.  As for the Empire Darklighter pack with Camie and Fixer, it will be coming as a convention exclusive set next year.  The Heir to the Empire pack with Noghri and Ralrra does not currently have a home; right now it might become a Convention exclusive in 2011.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 17, 2009, 12:03 AM
That's really sad that Comic Packs are pretty much dead after he spring Batch. I am happy to hear that the Cammie Pack is coming after all. The former Spring 2010 sets looked so good hopefully they will find a home in the lineup one day. I still blame Hasbro for this one far too many bad choices and reissues killed this line in my opinion.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth Broem on November 17, 2009, 08:07 AM
Definately happy about the Camie/Fixer pack  :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Theta 288 on November 17, 2009, 09:11 AM
As long those figures we saw comes out & hopefuly single carded, I'm ok if the comic pack die out.

I want wave #5 &  #6 Kotor/Legacy  & the others..
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 17, 2009, 09:32 AM
Welcome news for me, however I wonder if this goes for the WM Comic packs as well.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on November 17, 2009, 09:51 AM
I don't recall who would be featured in that first pack, Bogey Squad?

Nevermind, its the Kashyyyk trooper and Commander.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on November 17, 2009, 10:10 AM
Well that blows.  I really like this line and would actually rank many of the figures above what we've gotten in the basic line.  Very happy to hear that we're still getting Thome & T'ra Saa at some point.  Not very happy that the last two are going to be convention exclusives - that means double the price we would have paid.  Hey Hasbro, I'll buy an extra set I don't need if you'll just release these in stores (since that's what I'll end up spending anyway).  :P
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on November 17, 2009, 01:52 PM
I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and say that the very good (maybe not quite overwhelming) response on many of the collecting boards caught the eye of Hasbro. They (Hasbro) may seem to think these would then sell better as single carded figures instead of comic packs. Less shelf space for them to take up at about the same price point (broken down per figure), or maybe even a little better on the single carded figs. 

I gotta say for me, I'd almost rather these be single carded anyway. I'd want to army build some of these figures, but not all of them. So being able to buy them singly would make it that much easier for me and I'd buy more figures than comic packs to satiate my wants.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on November 17, 2009, 02:04 PM
I think everyone already knew this (or thought it was coming), but according to the Q and A at BanthaSkull (http://banthaskull.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3574), it looks like comic packs are done after the "Spring 2010" assortment.  The quote:

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"Yes, here's the latest. We can confirm that the Comic Packs will be
discontinued after Spring 2010 (meaning no packs for Fall 2010). The
Wal-Mart exclusive Comic Pack program has been cancelled after the last
ones ship this Fall. Wave 3, including the pack with Tholme and T'ra Saa,
will now be on shelf approximately March in the U.S. along with the rest
of the Fall Comic Packs shown at Comic Con. This schedule should hold
unless there are further delays. The Spring 2010 Wave 1 packs shown at
Comic Con, including the Darth Nihl & Deliah Blue pack, may not make it
out at all based on the current rate of sale, but we remain hopeful. The
Camie/Fixer pack will be a convention exclusive next year."
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on November 17, 2009, 02:56 PM
I don't think they're going to single carded EU.  They have a big EU wave for the end of this year or first part of next, and then the TFU multi-packs coming to Toys-R-Us...then that's it.  No more EU next year and, if the Q&A responses are true, we're going to see a lot less EU going forward not more.

   E...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on November 17, 2009, 05:37 PM
Oh I don't know.  EU is still pretty fertile ground.  I'm sure they're looking to see how Wave 13 performs as a test, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see more EU waves in the near future if those figures sell well.  I do agree that comic-specific figures will be harder to come by without the comic-book format - there's far more popular EU characters from the novels in most cases. 

Keep in mind that the Live Action TV series is (supposedly) on the way as well.  If you consider that EU, I think you will see a LOT of EU figures to support it. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on November 17, 2009, 05:42 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see more EU waves in the near future if those figures sell well. 

You must have missed this nugget from Monday's Q&A @ SWC (http://swcollector.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=1504):

"After the last wave of Legacy/Droid Factory, set for approximately February, there are no more EU figures slotted for the mainline basic figure wave until Fall 2011, at the earliest."

So, while there will probably still be some EU box sets here or there, EU is disappearing from the basic figure line for a while after the upcoming wave...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on November 17, 2009, 05:44 PM
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see more EU waves in the near future if those figures sell well. 

You must have missed this nugget from Monday's Q&A @ SWC (http://swcollector.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=1504):

"After the last wave of Legacy/Droid Factory, set for approximately February, there are no more EU figures slotted for the mainline basic figure wave until Fall 2011, at the earliest."

So, while there will probably still be some EU box sets here or there, EU is disappearing from the basic figure line for a while after the upcoming wave...

I wonder if they include their EU/offscreen figure and vehicle repaints in that category.  :P
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 18, 2009, 12:16 AM
I am SOOO disappointed Hasbro's canceling the CP line! :'( I'm pissed because they keep including sets that never sell, and then they always wonder why the line is failing!

Keep in mind that the Live Action TV series is (supposedly) on the way as well.  If you consider that EU, I think you will see a LOT of EU figures to support it.  

Man, I hope that new series works wonders with Hasbro. We NEED more EU! It's a breeding ground for new figures (contrary to what Hasbro thinks!)!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on November 18, 2009, 01:12 AM
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see more EU waves in the near future if those figures sell well. 

You must have missed this nugget from Monday's Q&A @ SWC (http://swcollector.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=1504):

"After the last wave of Legacy/Droid Factory, set for approximately February, there are no more EU figures slotted for the mainline basic figure wave until Fall 2011, at the earliest."

So, while there will probably still be some EU box sets here or there, EU is disappearing from the basic figure line for a while after the upcoming wave...

I did miss that, but still stand by my earlier assessment given the above statement.  If wave 13 isn't hitting until Feb 2011 (which means March for most of us), then they're just saying we won't see any additional EU figures in the basic line for another six months...that's actually a pretty quick turnaround if it happens.  Their wording also seems to signify that they are adopting a wait-and-see approach to determine if sales of Wave 13 are strong enough to support future EU waves.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on November 18, 2009, 01:26 AM
If wave 13 isn't hitting until Feb 2011 (which means March for most of us), then they're just saying we won't see any additional EU figures in the basic line for another six months...that's actually a pretty quick turnaround if it happens. 

I think you mean Wave 13 is due around Feb 2010 and since they said Fall 2011, that's a bit longer than just six months...  ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JabbaJoe on November 18, 2009, 08:20 AM
That stinks that they are canceling this line! >:( :'( >:( :'(  The Comic Pack line is my favorite line right now. I hope this does not mean Hasbro will be making less EU stuff.  I read the books and would like to see some more book characters made.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 18, 2009, 01:01 PM
News that this line is getting cancelled is really disappointing to me.

I really like what they've been able to do with some of the comic packs so far.

However, I can't help but notice (and now comment on) the fact that there have been FAR TOO MANY reissues in this line!

The clunker Marvel sets that Hasbro trotted out as the first mass-release wave of this format, all received a "repaint" variation in the same packaging and then recently with the Red/White packaging, they brought back out the Vader/Rebel and Han/Chewie sets. Why? Were the previous two releases of these sets not enough?

Why did the first EIGHT Red/White packs need to be primarily repacks? I'm sorry, but there is no excuse why the latest wave of Comic 2-packs couldn't have just been 2x each of the three new ones (numbered 1, 2 and 3) and then 1 of the Luke/Deena and 1 of the Mundi/Hett sets STILL in the Blue/White packaging - the packaging is the SAME SIZE, they could have cross packed Blue/White and Red/White in the same case.

Heck if that's a problem put 3x each of the Katarn/Vong set and 3x each of the Krayt/Dare set and then just 2x each of the Luke/Lumiya set.

All I see in stores around here are Red/White packs #1, #2, #4, #5 and #6 - and they are in abundance. What made them think that the Wedge/Borssk set was so great it needed to ship again? In most instances there are still Blue/White comic packs left and almost always it's the Wedge/Borssk set!

Maybe what they need to do is send their reps around and pull all of the Blue/White Comic packs AND all five of the Red/White repacks and fire the idiot who created the mess in the first place.

If they had shipped a case like I suggest above and those sets were what was clogging the pegs, then sure I would concede and say "huh, I guess the comic 2-packs aren't selling so well" - however, when a "new" case of the comic packs comes in and the three new sets fly out the door leaving the refuse behind, I blame the peg clogging on ineptitude, not on poor sales.

I've said it on various different threads dedicated to this sub-line before - the assortments should ALWAYS just be four new comic 2-packs, packaged 2x per case. That allows for the cases to easily be marketed where they would most like do the best - with adult collectors who may choose to buy them online. If I didn't always end up with junk I didn't want more of, I would gladly buy cases of comic packs that were 100% new sets with each wave.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on November 18, 2009, 01:05 PM
If wave 13 isn't hitting until Feb 2011 (which means March for most of us), then they're just saying we won't see any additional EU figures in the basic line for another six months...that's actually a pretty quick turnaround if it happens. 

I think you mean Wave 13 is due around Feb 2010 and since they said Fall 2011, that's a bit longer than just six months...  ;)

Ooo.  Yeah, that IS a long time.   We are on Fiscal 2010 at work and I was thinking 2011 was just around the corner.  Cripes - that means another year before I retire as well!   >:(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 18, 2009, 10:38 PM
I hope Hasbro does get out the new sets (Exar Kun/Droma, Tholme/T'ra...). I'm upset they're canceling the line before the Darth Nihl and Jarael sets come out. Man, I wanted those!  >:(

(http://www.starwars.com/img/vault/collecting/news20090724a/70.jpg)

Here's to hoping that Hasbro releases those sets before the line goes.   :-X



Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on November 19, 2009, 10:14 AM
exactly.  I was super stoked about the comic packs pictured above.  now they are in limbo as to when they will get released.  I am saying "when" as opposed to "if" because they are there, they are tooled, they spent money on them, some day they will come out - just "when"?

bottom line in my mind Hasbro "killed" the line in terms of bad sales.  Legacy line cp breakdown that killed the line imo:   

3) Anakin Skywalker & Assassin Droid (Republic) - repack from TAC collection
6) Fenn Shysa & Dengar (Marvel) - craptastic marvel coloring.  purple Dengar wtf?  i will pass on a Barney fig.
7) Princess Leia & Tobbi Dala (Marvel) - craptastic marvel coloring.  basically just a repaints.  Leia has barebones articulation.  I thought Hasbro said that when they raised the price of the comic packs from the TAC lines to the Legacy line it was so they could put better quality figs out...  this could also be said about the above CP - except I still have a somewhat soft-spot for Dengar since I don't have one yet.
8 ) Leia Organa & Prince Xizor (Shadows of the Empire) - I bought this set but I know a lot of people didn't due to Leia cankles and Xizor looked like a girlie man.
9) Grand Admiral Thrawn & Talon Karrde (Heir to the Empire) - I bought this set but I can see why it didn't sell well.  I don't think kids are too interested in Admirals in general, plus I don't think the "Sons of Anarachy" action figure in this pack looked out of place from Star Wars.
10) Darth Vader & Grand Moff Trachta (Empire) - basically $13 for Trachta plus a comic.  No one needs that Vader.  takes me back to my price bump questioning...
11) Darth Vader & Princess Leia (Infinities - Return of the Jedi) - repack/repaint - nothing new.  Vader with the wrong color saber.


and of course the plain old marvel repacks:
  1) Darth Vader & Rebel Officer (Marvel)
  2) Chewbacca & Han Solo (Marvel)


Final thoughts:
1. crappy pack selection as noted above.
2. price bump that did not follow through with their intentions.
3. crappy pack selection as noted above coupled with price bump that did not follow through with their intentions.


='s Hasbro not taking the CP line in the right direction.  While I am not a Star Wars comics afficinado, I am sure that there are comic packs that could have been made that were much more exciting.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on November 19, 2009, 11:04 AM
Wow, I'm am depressed about not getting Delia Blue, Darth Nihl and Jareal. I was really looking forward to those figures. (Not so much the Rohlan Dyre).

I really REALLY hope Hasbro finds a way to get these figures to market.

I totally agree with the others whose sentiment about repacks in this line helping to KILL the line. The odd Marvel color repacks are just that odd. They were the more novelty items of this line and shouldn't have gone into a 2nd reissue (3rd time hitting shelves). I don't know anyone who needs/wants those sets.

Man, I really am bummed about Blue, Nihl and Jareal.

I'm going to be very disappointed if these don't come out. I'd hope for another pack of some sort with these figs in it, but it appears Hasbro isn't going to do that either.

What I don't think Hasbro is realizing is that they themselves are making it easier and easier for collectors to get out of collecting SW. Repacks, ridiculous repaints, too high of pricepoints.... all of that is crushing the line. They may blame it on the economy and to some extent that is true, but giving us essential the same stock over and over again just isn't going to cut it either. What was once nice new product become OLD and quickly. There should be a general rule of thumb with Hasbro that nothing is reissued more than once, unless they see a spike in interest from fans (this includes kids, adult collectors and casual fans alike). At least as far as figures go anyway. Vehicles and ships use a slightly different set of rules. (Though outrageous price hikes for simple redecos is preposterous - Imperial ARC-170 anyone?)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on November 19, 2009, 12:14 PM
So, reading through the Q and A's and trying to figure out all the shifts in scheduling.  So the "fall packs" are coming in spring of 2010, but does that include the WM exclusive packs that were supposed to be coming out?  To be honest, I think those were the packs I was most interested in with Rogue Squadron, Rogue Leader, and Tales packs - which all looked fairly spiffy.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on November 19, 2009, 03:37 PM
What I don't think Hasbro is realizing is that they themselves are making it easier and easier for collectors to get out of collecting SW. Repacks, ridiculous repaints, too high of pricepoints.... all of that is crushing the line. They may blame it on the economy and to some extent that is true, but giving us essential the same stock over and over again just isn't going to cut it either. What was once nice new product become OLD and quickly. There should be a general rule of thumb with Hasbro that nothing is reissued more than once, unless they see a spike in interest from fans (this includes kids, adult collectors and casual fans alike). At least as far as figures go anyway. Vehicles and ships use a slightly different set of rules. (Though outrageous price hikes for simple redecos is preposterous - Imperial ARC-170 anyone?)

Agreed, except for some of the army builders that are pretty much always going to sell decently, like generic Stormtroopers and clones.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 19, 2009, 03:55 PM
So, reading through the Q and A's and trying to figure out all the shifts in scheduling.  So the "fall packs" are coming in spring of 2010, but does that include the WM exclusive packs that were supposed to be coming out?  To be honest, I think those were the packs I was most interested in with Rogue Squadron, Rogue Leader, and Tales packs - which all looked fairly spiffy.

My understanding of their comment was the WM CP's are coming as scheduled and would be it for Wally World the rest are farther off. Tungohri of eBay already has had two of the WM CP characters so they should pop up with a few weeks. I could be wrong but usually that's how it's been working.

It sounds there is a 3,720 to 1 chance those two sets formally known as Spring 10 may come out if sales are brisk as they quoted. So that means they are dead. The Shadow Blackhole Stormie will be sure to put the fork into the line once and for all. I am also very confident Hasbro will pack the Marvel Green Tarkin and Stormie into the last cases to ensure it's demise and give us the finger. >:D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 19, 2009, 04:30 PM
We got some new loose images of the Wal-Mart pack figures today...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WMNeppLoose1_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WMWeirLoose1_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WMMohcLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1258665962,27384,)
Clicky to check it out...

They look good.  I'm particularly into the Rogues and the Commandoes, but I like getting Mohc too even if it's a younger version of him.  I'd like a Dark FOrces Mohc though to complement Katarn.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on November 19, 2009, 04:36 PM
Wow talk about timing in regards to my post. Man why is Mohc in a green outfit? And they used the ROTS Tarkin upper half as a base. Could'nt they have used Moff Jerjerrod or something? Hopefully he can headswap easy. I like the Sullustian pilot with the beard. The Shadow Scouts...........this is the kind of set that is the reason why the line is dead.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on November 19, 2009, 04:43 PM
The Mohc head sculpt would make for a decent Motti
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 19, 2009, 07:52 PM
The Mohc head sculpt would make for a decent Motti

Woow, you're right!

And on a different note, Hasbro has four figures (Nihl, Deliah, Jarael, Rolan) that have been hotly demanded (and they know this!). I'm sure they'll be released in some sort in the future (sooner than later, preferably  ::)).
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on November 20, 2009, 01:26 AM
Glad to see images of the WalMart exclusives.  It's kind of funny though.  It seems as though the demise of the comic 2-packs has to do with WalMart ceasing orders on the line.  But WalMart still seems to be committed to their exclusives for the time being.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 20, 2009, 09:34 AM
Sweet. The storm scout isn't the Hoth scout re-paint. Someone's been guaranteed a minimum commitment of 8 of that pack from me. I'm also digging the green outfits. They fit into my army nicely as medical officers.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on November 20, 2009, 11:35 AM
Is Mohc holding the DC-15S (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DC-15S_blaster)?  Not sure about the source material, but isn't he a OT era guy?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 20, 2009, 03:27 PM
I'm assuming this is his rise to the OT era...

Mohc's in charge of the Darktrooper Project where Kyle Katarn's character is originally from, and I'm assuming then this is his time (ala Yularren, Tarkin, etc.) during the Clone Wars.  He's pretty old and a bit heavier in Dark Forces than that figure reflects.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on November 20, 2009, 07:12 PM
I'm liking these figures. They're well-sculpted.  :) I just don't like the overly-green uniform on the Moff dude.  :(

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2009, 01:10 AM
He's not a Moff though, he's a General, and in the Clone Wars...  The uniform's probably accurate to the EU it's based on.  Not sure if General's duds in the CW are established one way or the other.  Yularren's uni seems to imply the Navy has a pretty drastic difference in look though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2009, 10:00 PM
Hasbro sent out early pictures of the Wal-Mart Exclusive wave of upcoming packs.
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WMCommandandWeirdLoose1_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WMPlourrandDllrRoguePilotsLoose1_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/09Leg_WMIG97andMohcLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1260327401,97397,)
Clicky to check 'em out!

All 3 look nice enough to me.  I'd rather get Mohc when he's in the Empire and fighting Katarn (IE: Old and real fat), but otherwise I'm ok with all 3 sets.  I can't wait for the Rogues set though.  I'm down for just about any Rebel Pilot they toss our way.  A Sullustan and bald chick will do then. :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 8, 2009, 11:46 PM
I am passing on the Scout pack, at least the WM Storm Commando looked coll and had new parts. I will bite on the other two sets. I like the Steam Punk Battle Droid the best out of the whole lot. Overall these sets kinda suck in regards to character choices. Just think if these were Legacy Comic sets or Heir to the Empire. I bet it would have made a huge difference in demand.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 9, 2009, 09:23 AM
Stop the teasing. Lets get 'em in the stores.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on December 9, 2009, 09:33 AM
Stop the teasing. Lets get 'em in the stores.

Apparently Hasbro just announced these are not shipping until 2010.   :(

D'OH!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 9, 2009, 09:38 AM
Stop the teasing. Lets get 'em in the stores.

Apparently Hasbro just announced these are not shipping until 2010.   :(

D'OH!

These or the non-exclusives?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on December 9, 2009, 09:47 AM
These or the non-exclusives?

From Galactic Hunter:

"Walmart Comic Packs: 2010
12/8/2009 9:04:58 PM | Reported by Adam
The new Hasbro Wal-Mart Exclusive Comic Packs are not going to ship in 2009 according to our friends at Hasbro's PR firm. Expect them some time in the new year, most likely Spring."

So I guess it is just the exclusives that have been pushed back...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on December 9, 2009, 10:05 AM
So I guess it is just the exclusives that have been pushed back...

In the last Q&A, Hasbro said the basic Comic Packs were pushed back to 2010 as well...

** They are farther away than we'd like. We have really been struggling with the Comic Packs, but there is some good news - the remaining Fall packs should be out around March time frame. We're still hopeful that we can get to the Spring 2010 ones shown at Comic Con eventually as well, but right now we're focused on the Fall ones
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 9, 2009, 11:13 AM
Hopefully these will ship with the last batch of the regular CPs (Tholme, Exar etc) when they ship in Spring 2010. I can easily wait for these sets. I am more hoping the EU Legacy wave still ships this month.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on December 9, 2009, 05:58 PM
It's funny, I just recognized the scout troopers from an old comic I had for the longest time just lying around.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 9, 2009, 06:29 PM
I am more hoping the EU Legacy wave still ships this month.

Didn't they say that the EU TLC wave won't be shipping until February?

I'm pretty sure that was in a recent Q&A answer.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 10, 2009, 12:24 AM
I am more hoping the EU Legacy wave still ships this month.

Didn't they say that the EU TLC wave won't be shipping until February?

I'm pretty sure that was in a recent Q&A answer.

Many retailers show the end of this month beginning of January. They may get pushed back but BBTS still shows this month. If anything I expect these early/mid January Feb for box stores.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on December 10, 2009, 12:48 AM
I'm hopeful that, since we saw the samples of the WM exclusives recently, they're going to happen within a month or two.  That'd be fine to me.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 10, 2009, 09:42 AM
These or the non-exclusives?

From Galactic Hunter:

"Walmart Comic Packs: 2010
12/8/2009 9:04:58 PM | Reported by Adam
The new Hasbro Wal-Mart Exclusive Comic Packs are not going to ship in 2009 according to our friends at Hasbro's PR firm. Expect them some time in the new year, most likely Spring."

So I guess it is just the exclusives that have been pushed back...

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not a GH reader.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 4, 2010, 01:20 PM
Finally, finally, FINALLY (!) found a CP in the new red/white packaging (it was Wedge and Bothan, unfortunately ::))! For months my local Targets have had only an endless slew of Leia/Xizor CPs, but for the first time ever they're getting the new packs! ;D

Unfortunately, there was another 2-3 Leia/Xizor sets sitting stagnant behind the new red/white set...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2010, 04:41 AM
Another new image...

This time a nice crisp loose shot of Exar Kun Ulic Qel-Droma from the upcoming Exar Kun/Ulic Quel Droma 2-pack.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Leg_ComicExarKunLoose1_TN.jpg) (http://www.JediDefender.com)
Clicky to check him out!

This set's pretty well anticipated, and with the line's short life left I'm sure these upcoming packs are going to be popular.  Hopefully we'll see more soon.

I'm still searching for a couple extra Katarn/Vong packs (did find one recently though) and so I hope we don't get deluged with new ones too soon since that last wave is still a pain to find.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on January 22, 2010, 07:30 PM
A new image of Jedi T'ra Saa surfaced... 

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Leg_ComicTraSaaLoose01_TN.jpg) (http://www.JediDefender.com)
Clicky to check her out!

Figures like T'ra are why I hate seeing the Comic line in such a dismal place.  She's got nice articulation it seems, a fantastic sculpt, lots of detail, looks to be a decent paintjob...  I just hate knowing that line's on its last legs I guess.  She's the kind of figure I'll buy in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on January 22, 2010, 09:01 PM
Looks like some kind of space whore to me - I don't follow EU.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on January 22, 2010, 09:10 PM
Other than the lightsaber and Jedi-ish robes?  ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on January 22, 2010, 10:29 PM
It's really a shame that the EU is gonna die (in action figure terms) once the CP line is finished. Hasbro has said (let's hope they didn't mean it) that we're not gonna get any more EU waves once the realistic figure relaunch happens in Fall 2010, and w/ the CP line dying, there's only gonna be a balance on movie-themed waves.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 25, 2010, 10:08 AM
In contradiction, she's the type that makes me not cry over the demise of the comic packs. As my collecting habits are continually modified, she's a great contender for skipping.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: speedermike on January 25, 2010, 01:17 PM
I would agree...I don't even know who she is...but I REALLY want Camie and Fixer.  I would go nuts to have those.  Pure SW '77 obscure oddities.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on January 25, 2010, 04:42 PM
Agreed, T'ra Saa is one of the least desireable figures I've ever seen... a total disaster from the neck up, looks nothing like the character to me.  Don't think I'll be needing that set.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on January 25, 2010, 05:38 PM
EU's EU...  Some people like it and some don't, but she's a well sculpted character with great articulation, all new sculpt, good paint aps, and from a relatively popular storyline.

She's the IDEAL reason it's a shame to see the comic packs go...  I get that maybe someone doesn't like her character in particular, so it's a pass.  It's like my dislike of the Vong characters so I maybe wouldn't buy a set with them in it, but at the same time I can't deny that the Vong that came with Katarn was ultimately a good action figure too.  So why be happy to see the line end?  Maybe something you did want would've come, but now it's in the can.

So instead of her, would you rather more Marvel repaints?  :) 

See that's my analogy...  She's new, she's a Darkhorse character, she's well articulated, she's well sculpted, well decoed...  That's, to me, why it sucks to see comic packs go because of characters like a redecoed Leia, Fleet Trooper, and purple Dengar, or SOTE figures that didn't necessarilly do too great their first time around either...  I would rather have seen more T'ra Saa's (even if they're not from stories I followed) than the stuff that ultimately was a big part that clogged the line up.  Maybe more Thrawn Trilogy figures would've happened then, or more Jedi filler for the Clone Wars era?  That's the stuff I liked picking up that is now not seemingly going to happen.

To me, these were new figures though too...  Camie and Fixer, to me anyway, aren't really comic figures and that's more Hasbro throwing fans a bone.  I wanted them too Mike, don't get me wrong, but comcis from the movies were a rarity to say the least.  Cut-scene figures are just something for the basic line, though I'm happy to get them either way.  But the comics didn't always offer NEW anyway, sometimes it was just repaints, and so seeing a set with two new Jedi in it was really nice, and I just find it a shame then that the line's ending when they're capable of delivering nice sets.

The wookiee and Noghri set is more my speed...  I love it, but I was happy to buy Jedi sets like with T'ra Saa too because she's new, alien, interesting.  And she's a new sculpt, new everything...  That line saw too little of this.  But I guess that's why it's dying though too.  Even when they did put something new out, collectors weren't willing to back it up totally either and so it's destined to fail then since it's more a collector-targeted series I think.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on January 25, 2010, 11:15 PM
Nothing wrong with the character selection Jesse (I thought she was a decent character in the comics) - it's the fact that Hasbro's work on the face make her look like she peeked inside the Ark of the Covenant while getting smashed in the face with a frying pan - that's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on January 25, 2010, 11:32 PM
You really think it's that far off the mark?  I think it looks pretty much like her...  She's got a flat face in the comics too.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on January 25, 2010, 11:54 PM
I'm still pissed about not getting Deliah Blue and Darth Nihl.

I pretty much agree with Jesse.  I bought some comic sets because they had all-new characters or because they were new, interesting figure versions of characters I already have.  But I didn't buy any of the Marvel sets that were all repaints of existing figures/characters.

I had two real problems with the sets that I didn't buy; Some had a new character in them but rather than Hasbro spending the money to do them well, they spent it on the re-sculpt of the character I already had.  The Luke/Lumiya set is an example.  I bought that one, but they skimped on Lumiya but gave Luke SA joints.  Why?  Like we don't have enough decent Luke figures, but we'll never get another shot at Lumiya.  The second was too many characters like Vader.  I passed on some sets just because I couldn't justify $12+ for one figure and a Vader that would clutter up a box somewhere.

Still, I'm going to miss the comic packs and think that at the end of the day, while we got some great figures, Hasbro could have done the line a little more justice.

   E...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on January 26, 2010, 12:29 AM
You really think it's that far off the mark?  I think it looks pretty much like her...  She's got a flat face in the comics too.

Yeah, I just think this is one of their lesser efforts... I think in the comics, they were able to make her look at least somewhat pretty and look like a caring Jedi... to me this rendition looks like Medusa!  Seriously... from the neck down though she looks fantastic, but I think that face looks so horrible that a lot of people might be turned off.  If I get this one, it will be just for the lower body as it looks like very good custom fodder.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 26, 2010, 12:30 AM
I think you just called her a butterface!   :D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 26, 2010, 07:02 AM
I think there were two primary reasons why this line is going:

1) Character choices. Like efranks said - how many times did we need Vader to be in these sets? While the Luke/Lumiya was a nice set from Marvel, the four ANH adaptation sets were a horrible first foot forward for the line.

2) Repacks. Ok, so you put out a set like dinner-jacket Wedge and the Bothan and you also put out a set with two Red Armor-clad Jedi-like warriors. Who do you re-release? The dinner jacket Wedge set of course!!! Hasbro has no one but themselves to blame for retail passing on this line. The case assortment for the Fall 2009 comic pack assortment was just plain STUPID. It should have had 2x of each new set and two POPULAR sets from the history of the line repacked in the Red/White packaging style. Seriously, what is Hasbro's problem with case packs lately. Nothing ever comes at 2x per case anymore. They never put a new four-figure CW wave at 2x per case either, and that's just ridiculous too.

They really need to go back to the days when if you have a six figure wave, there is a case with 2x of each, and if you have a four figure wave, there is a case with 3x of each.

Perhaps if they issued more online collector-friendly case-packs, the collector community would appear to be more supportive of the lines.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 26, 2010, 10:38 AM
...Perhaps if they issued more online collector-friendly case-packs, the collector community would appear to be more supportive of the lines.


Man, you hit the nail on the head there. I haven't bought a case of anything in a long time. I just refuse to buy a case of figures when half of them are repacks of ones I already have. Perhaps if they were evenly packed I could find another collector to go in on the case with me. Otherwise, forget it.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on January 26, 2010, 10:47 AM
I think the biggest issue with the Comic Packs are the following:

- Distribution
- Increase in Price
- Too many Repacks

And I also agree that the case assortments for both comic packs and basic figures has been a turnoff.  Why should I drop a hundred bucks on a case of figures when only 6 of them are new, and I get stuck with 6 repacks?  No thanks.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 29, 2010, 09:48 AM
I think the problem was the characters offered. The general purchasing public doesn't want to buy characters they don't know. The only reason why I bought half of them is because I'm a completist.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on January 29, 2010, 10:04 AM
Hopefully the WM exclusive ones will be hitting soon.  Curto has posted his photo archive pics of the Mohc/IG pack so that could be some sort of indication.  But then again, he did the EU wave some time ago (pretty sure before he even got around to the ESB wave) and I still haven't read any reports of those showing up.

I wanna grab the Rogue pack and probably the IG pack.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on January 29, 2010, 10:16 AM
I'm hoping my Walmart stocks them.  They didn't stock the last wave of exclusives but they are still carrying the 2-packs for now.  I'll probably buy all three just to show my support for the line, with the hopes we'll see that final wave later this year. 

   E...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on January 29, 2010, 10:56 AM
Big Gizz?  Crazy names out there in the land of EU - not that there aren't from the movies, but still....
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on February 3, 2010, 10:50 PM
Just when you thought the comic pack situation wasn't going to get any worse than it already is...  it's worse (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2010/02/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-22.html).  :P

Quote
The Wal-Mart Fall '10 Comic Pack exclusive assortment has shrunk to two: Star Wars Tales IG-97 and Rohm Moc, and Star Wars X-Wing Rogue Leader and General Weir. These two will be at retail sometime in February. The X-Wing Rogue Squadron pack with Plourr Illo and Dllr Nep has been pulled from the Wal-Mart packs and will be made available through another retailer or as an additional Convention item. It was pulled not to be an exclusive at the shows, but because of the subject matter. There will also be an exclusive Comic Pack debuting at both Comic Con and Celebration V this year. We have not announced them yet, but these will be revealed at Toy Fair.

As a Rouge Squadron fan, I have to say that sucks big time.  We get the dumbass Weir and yet ANOTHER Shadow Scout, but we have to wait for Plo and Dllr?  FAIL.   >:(

And am I reading it correctly that it was pulled due to the subject matter of the comic?   Friggin' Walmart... ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2010, 10:57 PM
I'm trying to recall the storyline of that comic and I don't recall it being weird. 

Maybe Plour blew Dllr in a frame I missed but otherwise I'm grappling with why this one's getting yanked for "subject matter" reasons.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 3, 2010, 11:22 PM
horse****!

that was the set I wanted the most.  tunghori or whatever his name is on ebay needs to get both of these figures in stock, for sale, at the same time and I will pull the trigger on making my first order from him.  he had them both up a while back, now only Plourr.

grrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 4, 2010, 12:46 AM
I just order that bald broad a few days ago. Glad I did. He has not had Dllr Nep in awhile. I also ordered the 1G-97 Droid. I wish the Shadow Trooper got pulled instead. Bald chicks are very controversial these days. Maybe Wal-Mart are a bunch of Baldists and discriminate against bald people. If that's the case I am not shopping there anymore.

I cannot believe how screwed up this line is right now. It's appalling.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JesseVader08 on February 4, 2010, 01:07 AM
I think it's official - Hasbro doesn't have a ******* clue what they're doing anymore. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 4, 2010, 01:12 AM
Wow - this news definitely sucks.

The Rogue Squadron set was the one I was looking forward to the most as well...

I guess their indication that it will ship somewhere else is a good sign. I guess they have them all manufactured at this point, so they have to find a home for them somewhere. What I don't understand is why not just offer the set through Hasbro Toy Shop at this point as an experiment?

If it sold well, maybe that would be a way for them to keep something like the EU Comic 2-packs going?

Maybe that should be a question for the next Q&A?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 4, 2010, 09:13 AM
I'm bummed too. Any new rebel pilot is a good rebel pilot.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 4, 2010, 09:28 AM
I can definitely agree that the Shadow trooper set could have been pulled instead.

And I was REALLY looking forward to the Deliah Blue set as well as the Jareal set. Female figures are harder to come by and those two figure prominently into their respective comic book titles. Shame on you Hasbro!

Those damn repacks came to bite you in the arse didn't they? We told you so MANY times and yet you refused to listen to us, stating that it saved money on tooling and would be more of a profit because of that reason. Now you finally see the error of your ways and what do you do? You CAN the NEW figures and continue wit kitbashed CRAP. You really only have yourself to blame Hasbro. Bring out the characters that are desirable to us, not what is going to save you in tooling cost. Take the Legends line for example, sure it's cheaper to produce, but you are kidding yourself if you think Legends outsells Legacy. Most of us can't find Legacy on the shelves and when we do it's scarce and we usually buy those few figures up. Legends is plentifula dn CLOGGING up shelves, much as the repacked comic packs.

While I used to be a trooper army builder and no doubts would have (and still will) buy one of each of those sets, if they were never made, I would have been okay with it. Strike that, had they never been announced or made, I'd have known none the wiser. But with the Deliah Blue and Jarel sets, again as I stated, those are integral characters to their respective stories and rare female figures in a male dominated line. They would have been much better choice to keep. Heck you even pulled the female pilot.

What is it Hasbro? Got something against women do you? I dunno, just sayin'...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Brian on February 4, 2010, 10:15 AM
This is disappointing, it was the pack I was looking forward to the most as well.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on February 4, 2010, 10:19 AM
Truthfully, I was never all that excited by ANY of the WalMart exclusive comic 2-packs.  The cancellation of one for "content reasons" stinks (and where WalMart is concerned you can only wonder what that might mean).  But I didn't feel a whole lot of attachment to a couple of EU Rebel Pilots that I had never heard of.

As for the general release comic packs?  I'm still wondering when those will show up and where.  And hopefully Hasbro is going to find a way to get Darth Nihl, Deliah Blue, Jarael & Rohlan Dyre out somehow.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 4, 2010, 10:32 AM
I guess I am also confused about the concern on Walmart's part.  Aren't we always told that these items are shown to retailers in advance in order to get them to "buy into" them?  Also, iirc, weren't these packs initially supposed to be at WM all the back in September '09?

Why is all the stink happening now, supposedly the month they are coming out, and why are we so late in the game with getting the info.

I dunno, something just sounds odd here.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on February 4, 2010, 10:34 AM
Ok, so has anyone actually READ the frigging comic that is supposedly so controversial? Please explain to the rest of us what is so damn objectionable. It's Star Wars, so there can't possibly be any sex.

My curiosity is BURNING.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darby on February 4, 2010, 10:43 AM
I never much cared about these either, so it's no loss to me.  Sucks for the people looking forward to them, though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 5, 2010, 10:47 AM
I can definitely agree that the Shadow trooper set could have been pulled instead.


Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...

Let's be rational here.
 
;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 5, 2010, 11:49 AM
I can definitely agree that the Shadow trooper set could have been pulled instead.


Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...

Let's be rational here.
 
;)


I am. lol

Heh, if Hasbro can sell you some carp like that Shadow trooper set, I've got some property in Florida I'd like to show you...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on February 5, 2010, 02:26 PM
What pisses me off about the comic packs is if they had to cancel some, why not cancel the Bogey Squad or Utapau Trooper repaints?  Then give us Deliah/Nihl and Jareal/Dyre.  Pack them all 2 per case and sell them.

Target has actually stocked the Krayt/Dare, Vong/Katarn, Luke/Lumiya sets about three times and believe it or not, not only have those three sold but so have the Marvel repaint sets.  The sets not selling, Wedge/Borssk and Luke/Deena.  And we're still left with Leia/Xizor packs.

Walmart had the Krayt/Dare wave at least twice and sold every single pack both times.  What's left?  The Leia/Xizor pack that they've had for 6 months or longer.  Not only that, but Walmart also raised their price from $12.88 to $14.88 because I'm sure that'll get Xizor to move...

I can't understand how the comic packs when from Hasbro Golden Child to Redheaded Step Child in less than 9 months.  Besides the Wedge pack at Target and the Leia/Xizor packs at Wamarts (plural, I've seen multiples of that pack at several WM stores), everything Hasbro put out has sold.  I never saw a slowdown in comic pack sales except the blatant peg warming of the Xizor set.  That problem was fixable by Hasbro if they had just recalled them like they did the Yarna/Breha/Bail figures, which, by the way, were completely responsible for the decline of Legacy sales in my town for 9 months.

Another telling piece of the puzzle as far as I'm concerned is that the Vos/Faie, Clone Emperor/Luke wave showed up on clearance at Marshalls and TJ Maxx but I only ever saw that wave at retail maybe twice.  That's the wave that came after the Leia/Xizor wave... 

I won't try to argue that sales have to be off somewhere, you can't think that they aren't given the economy, but I still blame about 90% of the problems of Fall 2008 through the end of 2009 on Hasbro and how they failed to act on stale product at retail to help the flow new items.

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Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on February 5, 2010, 02:41 PM
I never saw a slowdown in comic pack sales except the blatant peg warming of the Xizor set.

Then count yourself lucky that you missed the delays that the Leia/Tobbi Dala and Dengar/Fenn Shysha sets caused.  People gobbled up the Imperial Knights and Talon/Cade from that wave and left these duds to rot.  Every Target around these parts was SWAMPED with them for months and months after they hit.

Which, goes back to the character selection gripe about this line.  All the rich characters in the Marvel Star Wars universe (Crimson Jack, Jaxxon, etc) and we got Fett repaints, a crappy PotF2 Hoth Leia repaint, and blue Dengar.  Thanks.   ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on February 5, 2010, 02:48 PM
I am also seeing the Krayt waving hitting target - and they are not sitting long at all.

I saw something strange today when I went to the WM one town over (Elkhart, Indiana - you may have heard about them in the news - one of the hardest hit cities in the nation economically).  All three pegs were jam packed with the WM exclusive Rogue squadron pack and Sunbar/Amanamin.  There were also 4 of the Luke in imperial officer disguise packs marked down to $9 in the clearance aisle.

 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on February 5, 2010, 03:39 PM
Surprisingly enough, Jeff, the Imperial Knights comic pack sat around at Walmart much longer than either of the two Mando sets did.

Between Binghamton, Elmira and Ithaca, NY, the only real loser in the comic packs was the Xizor/Leia set.  The Mando sets were slow sellers, Leia/Dala being the slowest of the two, but they still sold.

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Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 5, 2010, 04:00 PM
What pisses me off about the comic packs is if they had to cancel some, why not cancel the Bogey Squad or Utapau Trooper repaints?  Then give us Deliah/Nihl and Jareal/Dyre.  Pack them all 2 per case and sell them....
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I have to agree with this. I'm a reformed army builder. A couple of years ago I would have been clamoring for the trooper sets. Now I'd MUCH rather prefer the original sculpt, unique character sets.

The troopers can come out in a battle pack and sell with no problem.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on February 5, 2010, 04:07 PM
I'm bummed too. Any new rebel pilot is a good rebel pilot.

And you just know that there are a few stores out there that would love to give the set a home...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on February 5, 2010, 04:21 PM
Pretty much all the Wal-Mart exclusive sets have tanked outside of the Ewok one in recent memory, and I think Hasbro's to blame.  The selection of figures was questionable at best, and they compounded it by repacking pegwarmers into the assortments as well, choking out the distribution of the more desireable sets.  I'm extremely aggravated over what has happened with such promising figures like the KOTOR ones...

On the same topic, why Hasbro felt 2008-2009 would have been the era of Rebel pilot infactuation is beyond me.  There comes a point when using the same body over and over with different head and hand swaps in a short period of time is pure stupidity.  Sure, there's some diehards that will buy any SW figure in a pumpkin flight suit, but most of us will not, and the past year was ridiculous.  They didn't flood the basic figure line with these guys, but they overdid it with Evolution sets big time, and while having one Wal-Mart set of X-Wing pilots might have seemed reasonable (though they are still collecting dust), why on earth would they have even considered pushing a similar set on Wal-Mart again??  I'm glad that set isn't going to be hitting retail, because I already know it would be passed over by most collectors and kids (sorry to all the Rebel pilot fans, but yeesh).
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on February 5, 2010, 04:35 PM
Pretty much all the Wal-Mart exclusive sets have tanked outside of the Ewok one in recent memory, and I think Hasbro's to blame.  The selection of figures was questionable at best

What, you mean no one was clamoring for comic packs with Marvel Lando/Stormtrooper?  RotS Dooku/Anakin?  They have definitely had some stinkers in the Walmart CP line.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on February 5, 2010, 04:42 PM
Lando with the red pimp cape was off da chain and totally made that set worth it's weight in gold teeth.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on February 5, 2010, 05:29 PM
Pretty much all the Wal-Mart exclusive sets have tanked outside of the Ewok one in recent memory, and I think Hasbro's to blame.  The selection of figures was questionable at best

What, you mean no one was clamoring for comic packs with Marvel Lando/Stormtrooper?  RotS Dooku/Anakin?  They have definitely had some stinkers in the Walmart CP line.


I agree, and was including those as well, though I don't think the situation was as bad with that wave as the current situation...

Selection back then on the first set was okay, I think...

Wal-Mart Wave One
Bail Organa & Obi-Wan Kenobi
Commander Keller & Galactic Marine
Boba Fett & RA-7 Droid

The second wave had its problems, but I don't recall seeing nearly as much bulk hitting the pegs all at once... seems like the production numbers were lighter on this wave, but who knows.

Wal-Mart Wave Two
Lando Calrissian & Stormtrooper
Count Dooku & Anakin Skywalker
Kaskyyyk Trooper & Wookiee Trooper

I seem to recall with that second wave, Wal-Mart also didn't hesitate to clearance what was left on them to make room for non-exclusive comic packs that were shipping (at least in my area).

I think some of it has to do with price too... now we're even up to $14.88 on these sets at Wal-Mart... anyways, like I was saying, I think the demise of this line sucks and blame mostly Hasbro. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on February 5, 2010, 06:31 PM
The odd thing about those Walmart exclusives is that they were really hard to find around here.  Of the 6 Walmart stores I searched, I only found them in one and it was by accident, I stopped during my lunch break while I was on the road for work.  I bought all three and was glad I did, because I've only seen them once since then, in PA, and they didn't have the Ewoks.  The Amanin is an excellent figure and even though Sunber is kind of terrible, it was well worth it for the one figure alone.  The two Pilots also, IMO, were great additions to the line but you're right, it was pilot overkill for the last year or more.

There was a pretty vocal minority that wanted more Rebel pilots, unfortunately it's all on Hasbro for overdoing it.  The comic packs were perfect for the Rogue Squadron characters and 1 Battle Pack per year with more would have been fine, maybe 1 here or there in the basic line, but mix it up with A-Wing and B-Wing characters, not all X-Wing pilots.  But the Evo sets really ruined a good thing. 

I've had a problem with the Evo sets for a couple years now anyway, they got away from what I felt was their core and when they did, they became overpriced money grabs on Hasbro's part.  I always felt that the Evo sets should show a true evolution of a character (more so than a theme) and that they should be best-of-the-best as far as sculpt or accessories go.  The Clone to Stormtrooper set, Anakin to Vader, even the Padme set, were excellent.  But three pilots, all Rebels?  That reused bodies and accessories?  How is that an evolution of anything?  Hasbro should have scrapped that line a while ago and put the characters that fit (like Darth Bane or Darth Nihilus) in comic packs where there could be media backstory for the characters.

Anyway, I've already said I blame most of this line's failure on Hasbro and for good or bad, there's not really anything that could change my opinion on that.

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Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on February 5, 2010, 08:36 PM
Well, it's probably just the lack of Walmarts near me, but I've only found each of the first two wm comic sets at a single store.  The last set with the Ewoks, I never did see at retail and had to rely on friends to track them down.  Not sure if that's Hasbro or Walmart at fault, but just one more reason why I hate exclusives.  It just stinks for everyone involved when a company makes something you want to buy, but you can't give them your money because of the distribution.  :P
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on February 5, 2010, 09:41 PM
That Ewok set was popular for sure - although I hated it because of the funky colors.  But I do remember, when these first hit, looking at them, and grabbing a couple of the Amanin set.  About a minute later, some guy walked into the aisle and grabbed every Ewok set - I'd say about 15... and that store never saw those on the pegs again.  Just a ton of Amanin that sold about half way through, and there's probably still about a dozen of the pilots... and this was over a year ago.  That's pretty much the situation at all the local Wal-Marts on these.

There was a pretty vocal minority that wanted more Rebel pilots, unfortunately it's all on Hasbro for overdoing it.  The comic packs were perfect for the Rogue Squadron characters and 1 Battle Pack per year with more would have been fine, maybe 1 here or there in the basic line, but mix it up with A-Wing and B-Wing characters, not all X-Wing pilots.  But the Evo sets really ruined a good thing. 

Agreed 110% with that.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 6, 2010, 04:23 AM
I haven't been to my local Target since the last Ice Age, but I'm making a pretty good bet that the new red phase CPs are in healthy rotation there.

But, like I will forever maintain, Hasbro killed this line with their just out-right bad choices. Sets like Xizor/Leia, Imperial Knights, Thrawn/Talon Karrde needed anchor figures. For example, Hasbro stated that Leia never gets an A-rating. Surely the Leia included w/ Xizor got a C-rating. So why would a C-rated figure be paired w/ a character that 1. hasn't seen re-release since the 1990s, 2. clearly is not 100% interesting character design, and 3. is surely not to have been heard of by some fans? And I don't see any anchor figures in this set. Poor decision, Hasbro.

However, Hasbro outdid themselves simply w/ the original concept of the CP line: 2 figures, a comic book, and a somewhat (meh) low price. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on February 6, 2010, 10:57 AM
I completely agree with you Jabba - the only set that you mention that I don't necessarily agree with though is the Imperial Knights.

In my neck of the woods, the sets based on the Legacy comic books have all done very well and sold through.

Cade/Talon, Imperial Knights & Krayt/Dare were all mild challenge to track down at retail.

I think that if they had put out Maleval & Jes Gistang as a comic 2-pack instead of part of the Joker Squad set, that set would have sold well too.

Out of all of the packs that are now in limbo, the Darth Nihl/Delilah Blue set is one of them that I think would have also done well.

Sith sells...   ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 6, 2010, 02:14 PM
Out of all of the packs that are now in limbo, the Darth Nihl/Delilah Blue set is one of them that I think would have also done well.

Sith sells...   ;D

I too agree that the Nihl/Deliah set would have done well. This set is a perfect example of what should have been in each CP: 1 A+/anchor figure (Nihl), and 1 OK figure (Blue). Had Hasbro did a set comprised of Deliah Blue and Jariah Syn, that set wouldn't have probably sold well. Instead, Hasbro packed Deliah w/ an interesting character, which would have led to an outstanding sell.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on February 8, 2010, 07:40 PM
An image of the upcoming Utapau Clone Trooper Repaint from the ROutine Valor comic set surfaced.

It's a nice repaint, and of COURSE you want more Clones right? :)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Comic_UtapauCloneRepaintLoose01_TN.jpg) (http://www.JediDefender.com)
Clicky to check him out!

He's obviously nothing real special but the paintjob is new/different.  He will come with a Lt. Clone for Commander Cody's legion as well, who's a little more interesting, but not a ton.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on February 8, 2010, 08:57 PM
Man, I wonder how many different versions of the ROTS clone exist?  This one's nice, but I think I'm on clone overload just trying to think about all the different versions.   :P
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on February 8, 2010, 09:07 PM
Just off the top of my head...

-501st
-clean
-original w/squiggles
-212th/utapau
-shocktrooper
-grey coruscant markings/41st
-blue fleet security
-green engineer
-Mandalore one
-

I forget if there's more or not, but I'd guess someone's getting forgotten.  Was the Shadow Trooper and that purpley one that were exclusives based on the ROTS mold or the SA AOTC Trooper mold?  I'm thinking the latter but not sure.

It's still a lot o clones.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on February 8, 2010, 11:07 PM
Yep, those fugly purple 'Covert' clones and the Jedi-Con 2-pack Shadow Clone were based on the #41 sculpt

To JJ's list I'd add:
- Shadow Clone (Jedi-Con 2-pack version)
- Covert Ops
- RotS Gree
- Mace Windu BP Clone
- Commander Appo
- Green/Camo Kashyyyk (Order 66?)
- "Tiger Shark" ARC 170 BP Clone

And that's just off the top of my head... like JJ, I'm sure someone will come along and add a few more I've forgotten.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2010, 01:18 AM
How in the hell is that mold still around?  They're beating it like it stole from them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 9, 2010, 11:59 AM
How in the hell is that mold still around?  They're beating it like it stole from them.

I am 99% sure they made duplicate tools of this mold. It's a common practice for heavy volume tools. However despite that you would think all of the the molds are starting to wear out. They definitely made there money back 20 times over on them.

A new mega articulated trooper may revive the Trooper building or at least give it a big bump.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on February 9, 2010, 07:15 PM
How in the hell is that mold still around?  They're beating it like it stole from them.

Offering these Clones in the comic packs was a calculated business decision.  The low costs of these Clones allowed Hasbro to offer this last wave of comic 2-packs, including the new figure tooling of characters like Exar Kun, Tholme, Ulic Quel Droma and T'ra Saa.  Derryl DePriest commented on this specifically at Comic Con.  Hasbro tried to offer so much in this line in new sculpts and articulation that the cost per figure rose substantially.  Hence the inclusion of figures like this Utapau Clone to help drive the average cost per figure down for his last wave of comic 2-packs.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2010, 07:20 PM
How in the hell is that mold still around?  They're beating it like it stole from them.

I am 99% sure they made duplicate tools of this mold. It's a common practice for heavy volume tools. However despite that you would think all of the the molds are starting to wear out. They definitely made there money back 20 times over on them.

A new mega articulated trooper may revive the Trooper building or at least give it a big bump.

Yeah that's what I was figuring JACK.  I know certain figures at least get multiple molds that can, at sometimes anyway, be identified on the figure...  kind of like the minting id's on coins.  I feel sure when that #41 mold was made, there were duplicates.  That was the height of Clone freaking out.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on February 11, 2010, 01:45 AM
I'm guessing if they update that mold, we'll see them add ball jointed hips or something... not saying they won't go completely new on us at some point, but I'm rather content with the ROTS mold still.  I think it's great and am glad Hasbro's used it as much as they have.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on February 14, 2010, 01:30 PM
Could you guys help me wrap my head around what comic packs are still happening and when?  I know lots were delayed, some canceled right?  Some exclusive... the last ones I found were the Luke / Lumaya packs, and I have no idea if I've missed anything else or what I should be keeping an eye out.

Here are the ones I know of from various Hasbro slide-shows:

Tales of the Jedi #6:  Exar Kun & Ulic Quel Droma
Republic #65:  Jedi Masters Tholme & T'ra Saa
Classic Star Wars Early Adventure #1:  Stormtrooper with Blackhole Hologram
Republic #83:  Bogey Squad Scout Trooper and Clone Trooper
Routine Valor:  Commander Cody's Lieutenant and Clone Trooper
Legacy #7:  Delia Blue and Darth Nihl
Kotor #6:  Jarael and Rohlan Dyre

WalMart:
X-Wing Rogue Squadron #1:  Dllr Nep and Plourr Llo
Star Wars Tales #4:  IG97 and Rom Mohc
X-Wing Rogue Leader:  Storm Commando and General Weir

Comic Con:
Darth Maul and Owen Lars

Celebration V:
Cami and Fixer



So yeah, that's what I know of (although I know who almost none of those characters are...).

The C-V and Comic Con ones are obvious, but are the rest of those all still slated to come out, and have I missed any of them if they are?  Are there any comic Packs coming that I haven't listed?

I know this information is probably in this thread but I was hoping that instead of reading and piecing everything together, someone who has a good idea already could help out with a recap.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on February 14, 2010, 05:39 PM
I know this information is probably in this thread but I was hoping that instead of reading and piecing everything together, someone who has a good idea already could help out with a recap.

Lazy...  ::)

http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2010/02/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-22.html

** Thanks for the interest and we glad to provide an update. Unfortunately, sales on the Comic Packs really fell last Fall, so the situation has become more dire. What *will* be released: the final Fall wave, shown last year at Comic Con, including the Republic Tholme/T'ra Saa pack, the Tales of the Jedi pack with Exar Kun/Ulic Quel Dromis, the Republic Kashyyyk "Bogey Squad" Clone pack, the Star Wars Early Adventures Black Hole Trooper/droid/Black Hole figure pack, and the Routine Valor Commander Cody Battalion pack. Look for this wave approximately March. The Spring '10 wave has been cancelled, which included the Legacy Delia Blue/Darth Nihl and Knights of the Old Republic Jarael/Rohlan Dyre. We will look to bring these two out in some format in the next couple of years.

The Wal-Mart Fall '10 Comic Pack exclusive assortment has shrunk to two: Star Wars Tales IG-97 and Rohm Moc, and Star Wars X-Wing Rogue Leader and General Weir. These two will be at retail sometime in February. The X-Wing Rogue Squadron pack with Plourr Illo and Dllr Nep has been pulled from the Wal-Mart packs and will be made available through another retailer or as an additional Convention item. It was pulled not to be an exclusive at the shows, but because of the subject matter. There will also be an exclusive Comic Pack debuting at both Comic Con and Celebration V this year. We have not announced them yet, but these will be revealed at Toy Fair.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on February 14, 2010, 11:02 PM
Thanks Jeff, I knew I could lean count on you.

I've got another pile of B.A.D. parts piling up that I'll send you for your trouble. :)

If I'm reading it right, there are three that were flat out canceled and may be released later on, 5 that are still coming to regular retail, and 2 that are still coming to only Walmart, and two that have gone on to become convention exclusives.

Insane.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 15, 2010, 01:24 PM
I'm somewhat pleased in a strange way that the CPs are going. With the current state of Legacy and all, there's no way the CPs would have survived. Hasbro severely screwed themselves when they decided they would make Leia/Xizor packs and all that jazz. And plus, it's also a small blessing - w/ the Vintage Collection coming out, Hasbro is really coming back.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 15, 2010, 02:36 PM
Maybe I am the only one but I really liked the Xizor Figure pack. There were far worse packs then that one.
I am looking forward to the last of the packs and it's a shame they had some nice stuff on the horizon. These will make great convention exclusives so it's not like they are totally kaput. The conventions really compliment the concept.

I have the new Tra'Saa figure and she is a really great figure!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on February 16, 2010, 01:39 PM
If I'm reading it right, there are three that were flat out canceled and may be released later on, 5 that are still coming to regular retail, and 2 that are still coming to only Walmart, and two that have gone on to become convention exclusives.

Correct.  Walmart ones should be hitting soon, the regular ones should be hitting in March/April.


I've got another pile of B.A.D. parts piling up that I'll send you for your trouble. :)

Thanks!  They boys will love more I'm sure...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on February 27, 2010, 09:13 AM
The final wave of Comic Packs is now up for pre-order at EntertainmentEarth (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504N&id=HA-807301583).

Case Pack = the five new sets plus the three from the current wave

1x DH: Star Wars Tales #21: Kyle Katarn & Yuuzhan Vong
1x Marvel #96: Luke Skywalker & Lumiya
1x DH: Legacy #22: Darth Krayt & Imperial Knight Sigel Dare
1x DH: Tales of the Jedi Dark Lords of the Sith #6: Exar Kun & Ulic Qel-Droma
1x DH: Republic #65: Jedi Masters Tholme & T'ra Saa
1x Classic Star Wars Early Adventures #1: Blackhole Stormtrooper and Blackhole Holograph
1x DH: Routine Valor: 212th Battalion Clone Lieutenant and Trooper
1x DH: Republic #83: Bogey Squad Scout Trooper & Clone Trooper

Very tempting to just order a box and then be done with TRU/Target until August...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 27, 2010, 09:28 AM
I was thinking the same thing about ordering. All the pegs are full around here, so I can only imagine spending a lot of effort tracking these down if I don't.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 28, 2010, 05:57 PM
Out of the eight packs, I really want five of them.  Two are ok...one's a complete pass.

Worth a pre-order for me.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 1, 2010, 09:29 AM
I really only want even though I have no clue who they are:

1x DH: Tales of the Jedi Dark Lords of the Sith #6: Exar Kun & Ulic Qel-Droma
1x DH: Republic #65: Jedi Masters Tholme & T'ra Saa

If I see them at retail I will buy:

1x DH: Routine Valor: 212th Battalion Clone Lieutenant and Trooper
1x DH: Republic #83: Bogey Squad Scout Trooper & Clone Trooper

If I am lucky enough to catch them when they go up on HTS I will scoop the above 4 all up at the same time.

I already have the repacks and the Blackhole is a complete pass for me - so no pre-order here because honestly, I could probably live without scoring any/all of them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 2, 2010, 09:27 AM
I preordered a case from BBTS last week. There is no way I am hunting down this crap in stores. Glad to see they are shipping more of the previous 3 hard to find CP's.

I am ready for the Vintage Preorders now......
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 2, 2010, 01:27 PM
I am ready for the Vintage Preorders now......

Odds are that'll be sometime in (or after) May.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 6, 2010, 03:55 AM
I really am surprised Hasbro laid off a slide dedicated to the remaining CPs for the Toy Fair slide show. Does anyone know when the remaining CPs will hit stores? Or are they internet exclusives (*ahem* like the failed EU of TLC)?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 6, 2010, 02:35 PM
Does anyone know when the remaining CPs will hit stores?

http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2010/02/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-22.html

** Thanks for the interest and we glad to provide an update. Unfortunately, sales on the Comic Packs really fell last Fall, so the situation has become more dire. What *will* be released: the final Fall wave, shown last year at Comic Con, including the Republic Tholme/T'ra Saa pack, the Tales of the Jedi pack with Exar Kun/Ulic Quel Dromis, the Republic Kashyyyk "Bogey Squad" Clone pack, the Star Wars Early Adventures Black Hole Trooper/droid/Black Hole figure pack, and the Routine Valor Commander Cody Battalion pack. Look for this wave approximately March. The Spring '10 wave has been cancelled, which included the Legacy Delia Blue/Darth Nihl and Knights of the Old Republic Jarael/Rohlan Dyre. We will look to bring these two out in some format in the next couple of years.

The Wal-Mart Fall '10 Comic Pack exclusive assortment has shrunk to two: Star Wars Tales IG-97 and Rohm Moc, and Star Wars X-Wing Rogue Leader and General Weir. These two will be at retail sometime in February. The X-Wing Rogue Squadron pack with Plourr Illo and Dllr Nep has been pulled from the Wal-Mart packs and will be made available through another retailer or as an additional Convention item. It was pulled not to be an exclusive at the shows, but because of the subject matter. There will also be an exclusive Comic Pack debuting at both Comic Con and Celebration V this year. We have not announced them yet, but these will be revealed at Toy Fair.

Long story short = they should be out soon.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 6, 2010, 07:01 PM
Has anyone found the WalMart exclusive sets yet? I know they were on eBay, so I guess what my question is - has anyone found them at a WalMart yet?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 6, 2010, 10:45 PM
Well, I'm glad that the CPs should be hitting this month. But I've visited all of my local Targets, and while the Basic Figures, Deluxe Figures, BPs, vehicles...etc. have ALL been restocked, the CPs is the only line on the shelves that remains in the blue/white packaging. I've long been looking for Krayt and Lumiya sets, but I doubt at this point that these new CPs will hit. Does anyone else know of stores that haven't restocked the red-packaging CPs? or is this situation unique only to my local area? I'm hoping that once the newer CP sets are released that the stores will restock w/ continuous flows of the newer sets.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 8, 2010, 09:02 AM
@Jabba the Slug

While I have neve done this you can pull a "jedi mind trick" on the Target stores in your areas inventory systems.  Buy up all the comic packs at the stores you visit the most and return them all at the one you visit the least.  Sure you will screw over one store in the process but that is the only way you are going to get new packs flowing to your stores - especially if you still have the blue/white packs... 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 8, 2010, 04:28 PM
WOW.
This is how slow things have become in the collecting community. This is the problem with product droughts, stuff like this is thought of as being reasonable (no offense meant to schmash). This actually hurts the SKU more by retuning it. Toy companies and retailers track return rates so at the end of the day you end up where you started. As much as I want some new stuff I will save for the glut coming and preorder what I can.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 8, 2010, 06:39 PM
Not to mention the fact that to me, that's just messing with your toy collecting karma.

For all you know, the store where you return that glut of product may be perfectly clear of glut and there is a local collector who depends on that store to get what they need. Think how you would feel if some jerk at another store 20 miles away was dumping unwanted stock at the store local to you.

If you are worried about possibly finding them, pre-order a case from somewhere like EE. That's what I did - I ordered a case, and that is my guaranteed set for my MOC collection. If I find them in the stores great, then I can have some to open, but if not then at least I have them in my collection MOC/MIP.

If you are an opener only - even better - order the case and let them come. The fact that there are five new sets in the case isn't bad either. Plus, there's the Vong/Katarn set in there too - I would love to have a nice little "squad" of Vong warriors, I've found three of that set in the wild so far (one to keep MOC, two to open) so expanding my Vong ranks to three is appealing.

I'm sure I can find SOMEONE out there who still needs the Krayt/Dare set and snagging the Luke/Lumiya set will allow me to have a Lumiya displayed with both heads. So for me it's a win-win.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on March 8, 2010, 08:12 PM
What was up with one of the comic packs AP was talking about in his QnA?  WM found it to be questionable or something?  I didn't quite catch what he was talking about.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 8, 2010, 08:17 PM
Just in time for this thread's activity...

New pictures of the last wave carded:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Comic_CodyLtCloneCarded01_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Comic_BogeySquadCarded01_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Comic_TraSaaTholmeCarded01_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Comic_DromaKunCarded01_TN.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/010Comic_BHStormBHHoloCarded01_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1268097075,65007,)
Clicky to check it out!

Pretty cool set for the final wave of basic comic packs IMO...  Tholme and T'ra Saa are my favorites, and the Blackhole Trooper's the stinker IMO.  I don't like Marvel quite as much though so that's just me.  I like the 212th Clones and Bogey too.  I'm not a huge Old Republic era guy but I can dig Droma and Kun too for new good figures.

I'm really leaning towards case ordering on these.  I just don't feel like bothering with searching these out.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 8, 2010, 09:17 PM
What was up with one of the comic packs AP was talking about in his QnA?  WM found it to be questionable or something?

A month ago, Hasbro said in the Q&A that Walmart passed on the Plourr Illo & Dllr Nep comic pack due to the comic's subject matter.  Sounds like it will be sold someplace else...


Just when you thought the comic pack situation wasn't going to get any worse than it already is...  it's worse (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2010/02/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-22.html).  :P

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The Wal-Mart Fall '10 Comic Pack exclusive assortment has shrunk to two: Star Wars Tales IG-97 and Rohm Moc, and Star Wars X-Wing Rogue Leader and General Weir. These two will be at retail sometime in February. The X-Wing Rogue Squadron pack with Plourr Illo and Dllr Nep has been pulled from the Wal-Mart packs and will be made available through another retailer or as an additional Convention item. It was pulled not to be an exclusive at the shows, but because of the subject matter. There will also be an exclusive Comic Pack debuting at both Comic Con and Celebration V this year. We have not announced them yet, but these will be revealed at Toy Fair.

As a Rouge Squadron fan, I have to say that sucks big time.  We get the dumbass Weir and yet ANOTHER Shadow Scout, but we have to wait for Plo and Dllr?  FAIL.   >:(

And am I reading it correctly that it was pulled due to the subject matter of the comic?   Friggin' Walmart... ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 8, 2010, 10:34 PM
I ordered a case of these new sets (I also bought that Rouge set online so I can check that off, glad I did)
I am really looking forward to the Tholme pack the most, I always really liked the character. I am glad they were able to hit the majority of the Jedi from the Clone wars comic there are only some minor characters they missed. I think you will see Quinlan in the CW animation one day.

The rest of the sets are ok. I am actually finding that Blackhole hologram a bit more interesting after seeing the pics.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 8, 2010, 10:47 PM
I like the thought of Vos making the cartoon, but I gotta say that Lucas seems to feel the comics and basically anything outside the current CW series is useless to him, so I'm not so sure it'll make the crossover, though I think Vos should.  I think Filloni would, but it seems like Lucas has the veto power over that series and exercises it routinely.

I was always let down by his (Vos) figures though.  The comic packs were an initial great value but that steadily was chipped at, and figures that suffered were the Vos figures (especially the last one where packs cost a lot and the figure still lacked any substantial leg articulation, and he really could've used it).

DOn't get me wrong, they're ok, but they just never lived up to the rest of the figures in the series for some reason.  I'd still buy a better articulated Vos in a heartbeat, but as it stands now, I'll likely custom one up.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on March 9, 2010, 09:11 AM
I don't know if its been discussed, but how different is the blackhole stormtrooper compared to previous Shadow Stormtroopers?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on March 9, 2010, 10:13 AM
Lucas seems to feel the comics and basically anything outside the current CW series is useless to him

Awesome, I have something in common with The Maker!  ;D

I have asked this question all over and have never gotten a solid response:

Has anyone READ that comic with the supposedly objectionable material? What's the deal? Profanity and sex are non-existent in the SW universe, and I don't see how the violence aspect could be that objectionable, so I'm dying of curiosity what could be so controversial?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 9, 2010, 10:48 AM
I read it semi recently, and while I don't recall 100%, I don't think there is anything super objectionable.  If I remember/have time I will look again when I get home.

Honestly though, I think the issue might be the shaved head. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on March 9, 2010, 11:08 AM
Whoever objects to this comic should take a look at peopleofwalmart.com.  I'd think their own shoppers to be more objectionable.  The way I remember the character from the X-Wing books she was supposed to be disliked.  So they gave her a distasteful background.  Whoop-dee-do.  Wally does pick the weirdest things to take a stand on.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 9, 2010, 01:05 PM
What was up with one of the comic packs AP was talking about in his QnA?  WM found it to be questionable or something?  I didn't quite catch what he was talking about.

It's going to be a shared online exclusive, Wal-Mart opted not to stock it.  Aaaaand you can order it right about now, if you order it from my place o' business.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 9, 2010, 02:45 PM
"As an added bonus, Plourr Ilo has a working holster for her blaster!"

Greatest selling point ever! I love the writeup on this! This was a new feature 11 years ago in 1999 with Cantina Han, to tout it now seems to be a stretch since it's almost a standard for figures. The copywriter who typed this up is AWESOME for writing that!

I already own these two worth getting if you like pilots. My only complaints are with Plo. Her helmet is too big for her bald head and her blaster does not fit to well in that nifty holster as advertised. (The gave her the VOTC Luke Blaster instead of the Han one)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 9, 2010, 03:15 PM
It's going to be a shared online exclusive, Wal-Mart opted not to stock it.  Aaaaand you can order it right about now, if you order it from my place o' business.

Which I just did.  ;D

How come there hasn't been a bit more fanfare? It's not even showing up on your site's home page at the moment...

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 9, 2010, 03:36 PM
"As an added bonus, Plourr Ilo has a working holster for her blaster!"

Greatest selling point ever! I love the writeup on this! This was a new feature 11 years ago in 1999 with Cantina Han, to tout it now seems to be a stretch since it's almost a standard for figures. The copywriter who typed this up is AWESOME for writing that!

Thanks!  This was one of mine.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 9, 2010, 03:42 PM
"As an added bonus, Plourr Ilo has a working holster for her blaster!"

Greatest selling point ever! I love the writeup on this! This was a new feature 11 years ago in 1999 with Cantina Han, to tout it now seems to be a stretch since it's almost a standard for figures. The copywriter who typed this up is AWESOME for writing that!

Thanks!  This was one of mine.

Not sure if you know I am a Toy Designer and have worked in the industry for 10 years. There is the occasional item comes up that you have to stretch the call out "features" on to give the perception of added value. They always make me laugh so I really did get a kick out of it! Nice touch!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2010, 04:55 PM
For those wanting to get your order in on this, here's a link:

Rogue Squadron "Warrior Princess" Comic Pack (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS93272)

A decent price and a set I really want to nab.  I may even order two, actually, as I was wanting an extra for fodder.  It's a nice set, so I'm glad it was saved from the trash bin.  I'm guessing Hasbro wasn't too hard to twist their arms on it since they'd already been put into production a while back.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 11, 2010, 12:47 AM
I honestly would not pay $5 for that set because I am completely burnt out on X-Wing pilots.  I feel Hasbro has beaten a dead horse with this theme the past two years... so much other variety of Rebels that they should be exploring, like a definitive Rebel Fleet Trooper or Endor Rebel... but instead, they have continued to pump out more and more X-Wing guys.  And when they don't sell, they make it sound like the collectors aren't supporting the hobby... but it comes down to poor decisions by Hasbro in an over-saturation of the market.  They should know better.

However, since this is something that was planned for release, I still think it's cool to see that they found a way to get it to the market.  Not going to even consider getting it, but I'm sure there's plenty of collectors breathing a sigh of relief that EE picked this up.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 11, 2010, 12:51 AM
Actually Hasbro's pretty up on Rebel pilots and I guess they sell well, plus they're relatively inexpensive, and things like that fuel the line some.  I know at least one guy at Hasbro's that's REALLY into them Pilots so I'm not expecting to see them stop giving us new ones, especially with all these definitive Rebel Pilot molds now in existance...  Basically all of them unless you get into the EU.  That's boding well for more of the movie and EU guys to get releases at some point.  I'd like to see Hoth Pilots get a little more attention right now though, from a pilot perspective.  Da(c)k's a good start, but Zev could use an upgrade I think, Wedge obviously... 

If these less expensive figures for them get us other stuff, I'm all for that.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth Broem on March 11, 2010, 09:24 AM
Yeah, I agree Chewie.  I was just not really up for more army builder type characters in the comic packs.  I know why they do it.  There is obviously interest for those figures.  I guess it was a good slot for them.  I would have prefered actual characters we don't usually get like say a Guri, Big Gizz (I think that was his name?), Xizor, Ulic, Exar, Nomi Sunrider, The Rabbit Guy (can't remember that name) instead of more pilots/clonetroopers.  We get a steady diet of those in other aspects of the line.  Not that the pilots are not characters but it was obvious they were trying to tap into the army building mentality there.  I felt like we got enough with those from the Legacy 3 packs.   I hated it that they released Horn in a pilot outfit in the Droid Factory Wal-Mart.  It was just overkill in my opinion this year with all the pilots.  I know I will get ripped for saying that but that's just my feeling about it.  Again I know why they release pilots...it just got a little out of hand there. 

Then again I go banannas for Luke Snowspeeder Pilot and would for Wedge, Dack, Zev, Janson, if they released those.  I was just hoping for the comic packs to get those more unique-looking characters.   I have to admit to I was pretty tired of Luke getting a nod in seemingly every wave of comic packs there for awhile.  Again I get why of course.  It's Luke. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 11, 2010, 10:51 AM
For me, the more pilots the better. Not crazy about all the EU pilots, but I'll take 'em. I'll only be getting one of this set, though.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 11, 2010, 10:57 AM
I love the Rogue Squadron books/comics, so I'm happy to get the Plo/Dllr figures.  I know some of you are burned out, but I'd love to see more Rogues - Ooryl Qrygg, Nawara Ven, Gavin Darklighter, etc!

Different strokes for different folks as they say... :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 11, 2010, 01:07 PM
I guess I should clarify more - I'm not against Rebel pilots being released, just so many in such a short time span.  I think they need to space it out better... and there's a trend in my area (and I've spot checked a bit when traveling for work too and see the same situation), if you go to TRU, there's still a lot of older Legacy Evolution sets of Rebel Pilots collecting dust, and Wal-Mart still has a lot of the recent Legacy Evolution pilots that aren't moving even at $13.00... and they still have a ton of the pilot comic packs as well. 

I feel that Hasbro overestimated demand for the exact same sculpt being released over and over with different head swaps over a 2-year period.  These have hit a wall I think for now because so many came out in such a short stretch of time.  If they want to explore more head swaps in the future with army builders, I hope it's with troops rather than pilots.  I understand they look to source material for individual characters more for this sort of thing so there might not a great pool of Rebel troops to pull from... but still... there are so many X-Wing pilots available that I can see why so many have been sitting at retail and perhaps giving Hasbro more fuel for their argument that "Legacy doesn't sell."  I still contend that is their fault more than collectors, but that's for a different thread I guess.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 11, 2010, 01:22 PM
Totally agreed CHEWIE.   It's sort of ridiculous, without the ships and a strong mandate from a wider audience it's just a bunch of the same orange dude again and again.  I mean, I could see putting 1 pilot into every year's lineup just because it's probably good to keep it in circulation if/when a vehicle gets made, but yeesh.  How many figures have we had with the female pilot body since 2008?  5?  I'm stoked that I now actually own a Shira Brie figure but man.

It's a real shame they didn't include an extra bonus head/helmet as an accessory with these figures in efforts to boost sales.  That way you could sell the same SKU 2 or more times to collectors to "make" both figures while including a handy, delicious, and colorful choke hazard for kids.

...on the "Legacy doesn't sell" thing I'd probably point to Hasbro's decision to remove entry-level figures from the assortment.  Where are the Vaders?  Or a basic movie Darth Maul?  The TLC Vader repacks did spectacularly well, as far as I've seen, cranking out more of them would probably be good for the overall TLC SKU.  (And if they subsidize the development of new figures, hey, fantastic.)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on March 11, 2010, 01:41 PM
I like pilots myself, despite not knowing a much about them in terms of their source material. I look at it where the Imperials have so many trooper builder-type figures that can essentially double as pilots in a pinch, the rebels don't really have that kind of nameless, faceless character base to pull from.

Maybe instead having repeated Comic Pack and Evolution sets devoted to Rebel pilots, larger format Rebellion/Rogue Squadron/Xwing-themed Battle Pack releases with 6-8 different Rebels pilots could have been issued instead. Put them up for $40-50 each as an exclusive through EE, and I'd have snapped them up without thinking twice.  ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 11, 2010, 02:09 PM
Anyone who has seen my collection room knows I like pilots, but even I say they've made way too many.  Granted, I'm glad I have a few diverse pilots in aliens, and some for different vehicles (would not mind a few more Y-win pilots Hasbro!)...but they cranked out way too many X-wing pilots too soon.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: evenflow on March 11, 2010, 02:27 PM
BBTS canceled my preorder for the last wave of comic packs.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 11, 2010, 03:14 PM
BBTS canceled my preorder for the last wave of comic packs.

Me too. I just ordered from EE but I have a feeling it may be in vain. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 11, 2010, 03:24 PM
Me too. I just ordered from EE but I have a feeling it may be in vain. Very disappointing.

Don't worry yet.  Note, we added a limit to hopefully get as many people these packs as possible.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: evenflow on March 11, 2010, 04:58 PM
Me too. I just ordered from EE but I have a feeling it may be in vain. Very disappointing.

Don't worry yet.  Note, we added a limit to hopefully get as many people these packs as possible.


Well thats good to know, i ordered from EE as soon as my BBTS order was canceled. I hope to get them.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 11, 2010, 06:32 PM
I ordered a case from EE last week.

Should I be worried about not also finding these in stores? or should I up my order with EE to two cases just so I have a set to open?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 12, 2010, 09:37 AM
My experience with EE has been having to wait for something I could have bought ten times over in the stores for less money. I hate how they kept pushing the ship date back blaming Hasbro the entire time even though Walmart had the same thing on clearance. I was never thrilled with their service. At least I could save on shipping by picking it up at the office. The only price there was dealing with a really grumpy lady that could care less about the condition on the item. Of course, that isn't an option anymore since they moved. 

I see no reason to preorder anything Star Wars. You will see them in the stores. They are not going to be sold out. Just be patient. You don't need it the first day of release. Personally, I don't see anyone needing any of this stuff anymore.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on March 12, 2010, 09:46 AM
Ok, it's officially on now...the 2 Walmart exclusive packs have been spotted in the wild! (Yes, actual brick and mortars)

JTA has the skinny on their front page. Go get 'em!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Keonobi on March 12, 2010, 11:12 AM
otheR Site has a link to Play.com, a UK toy site?  That lists two comic packs.  Baron Fel and Isard & Mereel and Montross.  Those both seem like winners to me.  Maybe they'll be a shared exclusive later this year?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 12, 2010, 12:58 PM
My experience with EE has been having to wait for something I could have bought ten times over in the stores for less money. I hate how they kept pushing the ship date back blaming Hasbro the entire time even though Walmart had the same thing on clearance.

I'm sorry your items didn't come in a timely manner.  What item(s) in particular?  I'm quite curious.

Sometimes big box stores do get stuff before us, and sometimes, they don't.  We're all at the mercy of when we're shipped items from the manufacturer and orders are sent first-come, first-served.  So if you didn't pre-order, the item may not be "in stock" on our web site for a while due to pent-up demand and existing pre-orders.  We'll receive the items and ship them out, we just won't have extras in stock until later at times.

Although clearance before we have it seems more like it could be a fluke or a stroke of luck/human error at retail.  Once in a blue moon a Wal-Mart does have basic figures at a crazy low price, but that's generally a mistake.  (For example, I saw a lot of $3.00 figures in late 2006 and early 2007, if memory serves, from the 85770 assortments when new product was still shipping.)  So let me help me help you help us help you.  Or something.  (Also, I'm nosy.)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 12, 2010, 01:37 PM
I picked up the WalMart exclusive Comic Packs this morning myself. Nice sets, I'm glad they used the new battledroid body for IG-97.

NIce sets, I'm glad I was able to find them easily.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darby on March 12, 2010, 04:25 PM
My Wally World had tons of these today too.  Seeing these in person sort of brought home why this line is dead - who are these guys?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 12, 2010, 05:06 PM
Sometimes big box stores do get stuff before us, and sometimes, they don't. 

That seems to be an accurate statement for EE or any other place really.  I've ordered from EE many, many times - sometimes they get stuff before the big three retailers, sometimes not.  That's life.  Either way, for me, I'm much happier pre-ordering the comic pack case at a competitive price and waiting for them to come to me instead of running all over looking for them while the line is dying at retail. ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Master_Phruby on March 12, 2010, 06:01 PM
If I remember correctly this was two years ago. I don't remember the specific case contents but I ordered it three months in advance and then watched EE move the ship date four times before giving up and finally emailing them to cancel my order and have them remove me from their mailing list. That case ended up being peg warmers at walmart that year. This was unfortunate because I bought many things from them over the years. There record of delivering on time became very hit and miss over the years. Why preorder for something that rarely gets delivered on time?  I found I had better luck at the stores. I even put up with the rude lady in their "will call" desk. So I gave up with their poor customer service.

Maybe this has changed but they lost me as a customer.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 12, 2010, 06:05 PM
My Wally World had tons of these today too.  Seeing these in person sort of brought home why this line is dead - who are these guys?

I can totally understand this reaction - if I didn't also collect the Dark Horse comics, I would feel the same way. For me, it makes me want to dig out a series (like Rogue Leader) and re-read it.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 12, 2010, 06:30 PM
If I remember correctly this was two years ago. I don't remember the specific case contents but I ordered it three months in advance and then watched EE move the ship date four times before giving up and finally emailing them to cancel my order and have them remove me from their mailing list. That case ended up being peg warmers at walmart that year. This was unfortunate because I bought many things from them over the years. There record of delivering on time became very hit and miss over the years. Why preorder for something that rarely gets delivered on time?  I found I had better luck at the stores. I even put up with the rude lady in their "will call" desk. So I gave up with their poor customer service.

Maybe this has changed but they lost me as a customer.

Well, I'm sorry to hear you had that experience.  I will say that the person in question most likely is no longer at the company, and there are times where (for some reason or another) a case does get pushed back a lot.  (The latest EU case being a fine example.  I believe that started at November '09.)

Pre-orders are up not just to "get it on time" but to "get it."  Items used to pre-sell out a lot more frequently, and some assortments do come and go pretty quickly.  For example, we weren't able to get as much of Legacy Wave 11 as we would have liked, and that seems to be pretty true across the board.  It's a service we offer and for some, it's great-- and for some, not.  I've seen items hit retail first myself from time to time, unfortunately it's all part of the business.  (TRU gets LEGO like a month and change early, for example.)

Anyway, I'm sorry we lost you, but I'm glad to hear you found your figures.  If you try us again and hit a snag, let me know-- providing the best customer service is a big deal to us, and if anyone is ever unhappy with our service, I absolutely want to hear about it.  (Although when it comes to delays, I'm sorry to say, there's not much I can do.)

Thanks for replying!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedipurge on March 12, 2010, 06:43 PM
My Wally World had tons of these today too.  Seeing these in person sort of brought home why this line is dead - who are these guys?

Who cares they're troopers in black, that makes 'em cool  ::)

I agree with you, just think characters like these they're basically repacks which kind of kept the price down so they could make REAL new figures and keep the price in line.  That's the only reason we got packs like these, and they can throw retailers a bone with "exclusives"
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on March 12, 2010, 07:27 PM
My Wally World had tons of these today too.  Seeing these in person sort of brought home why this line is dead - who are these guys?

I feel the same way and stopped collecting these awhile back, but had a relapse thanks to my OCD.  I've no clue who any of these guys/gals are for the most part, but oh well.  Found the new WM sets tonight and I totally dig the Scout Troopers...Just don't quite dig the $14.88 price.   :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 12, 2010, 07:31 PM
Saw these today, and passed.  I'm not spending money on stuff anymore that's basically just a rehash, especially when Hasbro has better tooling available that they're not using.  Rom Mohc being such a crappy upper body sculpt rather than using Needa type tooling is just an insult at this point, and I'm not paying for Storm Commandos that are a step back from the Evolutions version.

In regards to EE, I've never had any problems.  I'd order from them a whole lot more if the Hasbro case assortments were better.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 13, 2010, 09:48 AM
My Wally World had tons of these today too.  Seeing these in person sort of brought home why this line is dead - who are these guys?

Who cares they're troopers in black, that makes 'em cool  ::)


I agree with you Purge, but see Darby's point very well. If these packs didn't have imperials I could use for my army in them, I'd care a heck of a lot less.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2010, 01:44 AM
No sign of the WM sets locally.  I figure this week or next weekend.  I'm kind of burning out on the weaker offerings of Comic Packs as well, and what CHEWIE said about the Imperials struck home with me.  I'd kind of like Weir out of principle, but I really would rather army build the actual Imperial Commando (from the Evo set) than these half-assed repaints of Biker Scouts.  Imp Commandoes had unique armor from day 1, so I hate the ****** "Shadow" repaints of scouts I guess.

WEir's different enough, I'd like him, but I'm tempted to just skip this set.

Rom Mohc I'd LOVE to have, but not as a GAR Officer.  I want Mohc as the fat assed Imperial General from Dark Forces.   :-\  That set too is meh.

The set I wanted the most was teh REbel pilots and it's easy enough to find. :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: tmanthegreat on March 14, 2010, 01:31 PM
I saw those sets at Wal Mart yesterday, but almost thought they were re-releases and I wasn't that impressed with the content offerings.  General Weir did look neat, however.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on March 14, 2010, 04:11 PM
Imp Commandoes had unique armor from day 1, so I hate the ****** "Shadow" repaints of scouts I guess.

I'm a complete sucker for any trooper Hasbro paints black so I'm happy - even though I don't know who these guys are.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 14, 2010, 06:50 PM
I know I'm pretty late, but what exactly is the matter w/ the Pluorr comic that has made Hasbro pull it from it's Walmart initial run? I thought they had pulled it due to manafacturing problems. But from what I've read it seems that the comic itself is iffy.   ???
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 15, 2010, 11:13 AM
Got the new IG-97 & Rahm CP. Veryu nice set, plus the best part of the set is you can easily swap Rahm head with Needa and it fits perfectly! So you can lose the green outfit/old body look with a standard Imp outfit.

The Weir pack is so terrible, they had 6 sets lingering and 1 IG-97 set. It seems many people are passing on this very useless and poorly executed set. Deservingly so. I usually buy stuff like this to support the line but it was such an easy pass as those days are over. They can do better even with reused parts. they should have made another Ewok pack.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on March 15, 2010, 12:33 PM
I know I'm pretty late, but what exactly is the matter w/ the Pluorr comic that has made Hasbro pull it from it's Walmart initial run? I thought they had pulled it due to manafacturing problems. But from what I've read it seems that the comic itself is iffy.   ???

I have asked this same question over and over at multiple SW sites and have NEVER gotten a satisfactory answer. I honestly think it is all complete BS. They probably just didn't want to shell out the $$$.

What is so offensive about a bald chick for crying out loud?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 15, 2010, 01:15 PM
I know I'm pretty late, but what exactly is the matter w/ the Pluorr comic that has made Hasbro pull it from it's Walmart initial run? I thought they had pulled it due to manafacturing problems. But from what I've read it seems that the comic itself is iffy.   ???

I have asked this same question over and over at multiple SW sites and have NEVER gotten a satisfactory answer.

The reason Walmart dropped the Plo/Dllr comic pack had something to do with the contents of the comic, but Hasbro would not officially say what specifically it was.  Insider sources say it is related to the massacre of Plourr's family and/or her vicious murder of her own brother in that particular story arc.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 15, 2010, 01:26 PM
@McMetal - apparently you are not familiar with the Sinead O'Connoer SNL incident...    lol   :P

@Jeff - I have been reading these comics lately and I honestly don't think that Plour's background, in the manner in which you speak, wasn't even addressed until several issues later.  I will try and remember to check this out - I keep forgettitng.

Part of me is wondering if this "excuse" isn't just an excuse to not sell it.  What I mean is, from what I see locally for me, last time around the WM exclusive Rogue packs didn't sell well.  Maybe WM put its mighty foot down and said we aren't taking it on the chin again?  Afterall, to me atleast, this pack is less exciting than the two Rogues offered in the last pack.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 15, 2010, 04:56 PM
Part of me is wondering if this "excuse" isn't just an excuse to not sell it. 

Well, all Hasbro would say on the record is that the pack was dropped "because of the subject matter (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2010/02/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-22.html)".  It's up to you to decide if you're going to take that at face value or to consider whether Walmart just used that as a handy excuse to drop a pack that they no longer wanted due to poor sales of other pilot sets. ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 15, 2010, 08:15 PM
Ok, I had the chance to go look - here is what I came up with:

This is part 1 of 4 in the story arc
In this part Plourr briefly talks about how her family was murdered but doesn't go into great detail.  She sees someone whom she believes responsible, the Grand Duke, and calls him a "murdering bastard".  The Grand Duke also makes mention of the family being murdered by saying "they herded the royal family and slaughtered them like cattle".

The real description of the slaughter of Plourr's family/brother isn't mentioned until the end of the third as a cliff hanger to the 4th part, and then immediately discussed in part 4.

So there is that, but here could be the real "ringer":

Count Rial Pernon - the final page of this comic ends with him saying the following in response to Wedge questioning who he is:

Quote
I am her second cousin.  We grew up together.  I do admit, I am a little disappointed in her reaction.  You would think she would be happier to see her future husband...


So perhaps Walmart has a problem with "kissing cousins" and they don't want to portray a bad image? 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on March 15, 2010, 08:32 PM
So perhaps Walmart has a problem with "kissing cousins" and they don't want to portray a bad image? 

That's hillarious.  Fits in good with the WM bingo thing that was floating around.  I'm sure WM doesn't want to support trailer trash type behavior?  Nah..... 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 17, 2010, 04:49 PM
My EE pre-order for the last wave of comic packs has changed to "processing".  Nice surprise as I wasn't expecting them for a while... :)

Also noticed that EE changed the status for the case to 'Sold Out' (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504N&id=HA-807301583).  Hope everyone who wanted to order got a chance to order!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 17, 2010, 06:00 PM
I thought that maybe Wal-Mart didn't want more X-Wing pilots so that's what they're referring to as "subject matter" - with so many Wal-Marts still having a surplus of the other X-Wing set, combined with the X-Wing Evolution figures as well, it seems logical that they were afraid they'd get the same result with these. 

I know there's a market for them, and some big fans of Rebel pilots out there, but I just think Hasbro put too many out in such a short time.  Jayson hinted earlier that maybe Hasbro should have released some 5-6 packs or something online instead - I think that would have been a better formula perhaps.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 17, 2010, 06:24 PM
My EE pre-order for the last wave of comic packs has changed to "processing".  Nice surprise as I wasn't expecting them for a while... :)

Also noticed that EE changed the status for the case to 'Sold Out' (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504N&id=HA-807301583).  Hope everyone who wanted to order got a chance to order!

My order is processing as well!   ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 17, 2010, 07:35 PM
My EE pre-order for the last wave of comic packs has changed to "processing".  Nice surprise as I wasn't expecting them for a while... :)

Also noticed that EE changed the status for the case to 'Sold Out' (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87504N&id=HA-807301583).  Hope everyone who wanted to order got a chance to order!

Just an update...

We have just been informed some more units have come up. So if you've been waiting, we're taking new pre-orders.  I'm assuming those will be filled in a week or two, don't quote me on that though.  (So to reiterate: not sold out.)

MY case has processed and was dropped off.  It's pretty swell-- I opened 2 of them so far.  I read all of the TOTJ comics when they came out and I don't remember this outfit off the top of my head as Ulic is concerned.  It seems Exar Kun was based on the Jedi Academy novel illustration rather than the comic.  He looks really old.

Also opened the Blackhole pack.  Kinda wish they based it on the comic illustrations more.  (White or silver lenses make a Blackhole stormtrooper distinctive, dammit.)  It's the removable helmet mold from 2007 and I have to say the armor color itself is pretty neat-- just not true to the comic.   The holo Blackhole is pretty neat AND pretty weak.  I love the deco-- the little stars and all on the black looks really great.  It should also be taller, unless I'm looking at the comic wrong.  Hasbro kinda missed out on this one.  The new interrogation droid is nicely done but I'd rather have, you know, a non-cruddy Blackhole.  Oh, and he looks like he's naked, basically.  As a wise man once said, in matters of importance, pants always beats no pants.  I guess at least we got one Russ Manning set... but in 2007, with the accessories, this probably would have qualified as a single basic figure and not a $15 2-pack.

Haven't opened the rest yet, but they look mostly OK.  This seems like a wave that should sell reasonably well assuming it makes it to the wilds of retail.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 17, 2010, 08:47 PM
Looked closer at several Rom Mohc's today and realized that I hate the figure even more than I thought I did.  Uses the ROTS Tarkin torso/arms, which is even more of a step down from Sunber.  Also all the ones I saw don't look too good in terms of head sculpt/paint applications.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 17, 2010, 09:10 PM
Some random thoughts...

-First Hasbro's BIG on Rebel Pilots.  Too much too soon I would agree with (3 Evo sets, the comic packs), but Hasbro's backing Pilots as good sellers and easy sells to boot with the toolings being done.  Like I said before there's some high-ups at Hasbro that support Reb Pilots as well, and I partially think that's why we've seen SA sculpts, we're getting Da(c)k, etc.  They're likely to continue in some capacity. 

-The comic packs WERE dropped for their subject matter, and were already produced, so it's nice online outlets picked them up, as that was the only set of this assortment I really wanted.  I still don't know what the subject matter is that's raised eyebrows though, but I haven't read that story in years.  However, it wasn't just because WM decided Rebel Pilots aren't selling, which they sold out just behind the Ewoks from the last comic exclusives in my area, so it's not like all areas are backed up with those sets either.  That's a typical regional thing, as usual.  I haven't seen those for at least months, well into last year.  I haven't seen any of those exclusives in months at all actually, but the Rogue set and Ewoks sold fastest here because at the time I wanted more of the Rogue set and didn't get them. 

-Saw Weir/Mohc sets tonight...  I bought Mohc but to use him as a young Republic Mohc.  I've never read that storyline, but it sets it in the Rebellion era.  This is 100% wrong, and doesn't jive with Mohc and his age/look from who actually established him as a character (The Dark Forces game).  To me, the original material almost always trumps some later EU that tries changing it. 

For instance...  Rohm Mohc before the Battle of Yavin:
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/9/99/Rommohc.jpg/250px-Rommohc.jpg)

Mohc at the end of the Republic/Empire Origins era (I'm assuming):
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/8/89/RomMohc2.jpg/250px-RomMohc2.jpg)

That action figure looks NOTHING like either of these characters, unless you consider it's at least 10 years younger than that last figure, placing him in the days before (or at best) or during the Clone Wars.  That's uber lame of Hasbro.

Weir and his Trooper suck wang.  If any of you want to sell JUST Weir, I'll buy him off you so I can make a different figure of him.  Actually, if you want everything but the head/helmet and bandoleir, contact me.  We'll work something out.

Either way, both of those WM packs suck IMO.   :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 17, 2010, 09:27 PM
Also thanks to Adam for the heads up.  I put an order in for the comics rather than pissing around looking for them, and also added the Rogue Squad comic to my order, and a case of the EU figures to my order.  Big order, but it'll save me looking for most stuff now for some months.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 18, 2010, 01:32 AM

For instance...  Rohm Mohc before the Battle of Yavin:
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/9/99/Rommohc.jpg/250px-Rommohc.jpg)


Just one minor correction Jesse.  This takes place shortly after the Battle of Yavin.

On another note....my order from EE has shipped!   ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 18, 2010, 02:08 AM
Well, yeah, technically it's all around the same timeframe of Yavin (some before, some during, some after).  I was thinking that shot with Mohc on the bridge of the Arc Hammer was during the DT's production with Vader watcing on though, thinking then that it took place right around the time Katarn was delivering the Death Star Plans.

I could be wrong, I don't recall the game's sequence of cut-scenes anymore.   :-\

Regardless though, that's clearly not the guy in the comic pack.  That's like 3x the guy in the comic pack, and a back of his head that when shaved would look like a pack of hotdogs.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on March 18, 2010, 03:24 AM
I found the Walmart exclusive comic packs yesterday and picked them up.  They're kind of blah looking, but I had a feeling I'd regret it later if I didn't.

And I also put in a pre-order for the final wave of general release comic packs, hope it comes through.  Also thanks to Smash for the code.  By my math, with the $5 Hasbro coupons, I'd only save about $0.40 per set at retail over buying the case.  Plus I have the option to offload the three extra sets for at least retail to help offset the cost if needed.

   E...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 18, 2010, 03:31 AM
You're going to feel buyer's remorse on Weir...  I seriously was torn at the store.  That's the first Dark Horse set I totally skipped.  I sat there mulling it over, and then finally I said to myself I couldn't justify it.

I'd like Weir's head, helmet, and bandoleir, but otherwise it's just a bad figure, with a bad repaint pack-in.  The final wave's Clone sets are better to me, as they're at least army builders to blend in with other movie Clones.  :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 18, 2010, 11:52 AM
Looks like the Dllr/Plo comic pack is now in-stock at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS93272&id=HA-807301583) as well.  Seems like the comic pack line is ending with a bang - 8 new sets hitting all at once.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 18, 2010, 03:37 PM
I got my EE shipping notice yesterday for the final comic packs. I am really looking forward to Tholme!
Glad EE came through. Shame on BBTS, I will be shifting more biz back to EE going forward for coming through as they did.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 18, 2010, 03:50 PM
Good news...  I got my pre-order in on both, so we'll see when they ship out I guess.  I was late putting in my orders for both those, so I'm sure I won't get them as soon as others, I'm just hopeful I'll get that case and that my Rogues show up with them.

I'll be thankful for that much less to look for too, between now and August.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 18, 2010, 07:45 PM
I got my EE shipping notice yesterday for the final comic packs. I am really looking forward to Tholme!

You know what's totally cool about Tholme? He has this swell cane.  I had no idea, I didn't see it in the pictures.  It has this birdlike grip on it, it's really sharp.  I think you're going to dig it, he translated well to plastic.

T'ra Saa (mine anyway) had a sort of a loose head.  But the sculpt is nice.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 18, 2010, 11:08 PM
whoa - Dllr and Plourr already shipped out to me from EE - nice.   :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 19, 2010, 12:45 AM
I got my shipping notice for my final wave of regular Comic Packs and my order for the Dllr/Plourr comic packs from EE over the last few days as well.

Now all I need to do is find the wave in stores so I can have a set to open.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 19, 2010, 02:16 AM
I too got my Plour and Dllr set shipped to me.  Here's the funny thing though.  I used the $10 off (thanks again Smash), and I pre-ordered 2 cases from EE at the same time, so my comic pack came to $7.99, but then the $25 shipping charge I got hit with for my rather bulky order bumped that up to $32-ish. 

So basically I have a $32 comic pack coming till my cases ship. :P

The way it broke down just sort of made me laugh, but at least my cases will hopefully get here before too long (thanks to Adam for the heads up on the comic ones.  It gave me a last reprieve on those).

Also Tholme's cane isn't a huge thing for the figure, but kind of plays a cool part for the character in the comics, so it's really neat that he comes with that.  It's sort of important for HIM, is my point.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on March 19, 2010, 11:11 AM
I got my shipping notice on the Dllr & Plo set also.  I may not have gotten my comic case order in in time, though.  I got a backordered message.  Have to wait it out.

   E...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 19, 2010, 11:18 AM
I got my EE shipping notice yesterday for the final comic packs. I am really looking forward to Tholme!

You know what's totally cool about Tholme? He has this swell cane.  I had no idea, I didn't see it in the pictures.  It has this birdlike grip on it, it's really sharp.  I think you're going to dig it, he translated well to plastic.

T'ra Saa (mine anyway) had a sort of a loose head.  But the sculpt is nice.

Awesome, I am so glad to hear he turned out well. I did see his cane in the pic prior because I love the chaacter so much I would zoom in on him in photoshop.

FYI - I have two extra Traa heads as I ordered several from eBay. PM me if you want one to swap with your loose one. I can mail one to you, no strings.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 19, 2010, 06:29 PM
Part of me is wondering if this "excuse" isn't just an excuse to not sell it.  What I mean is, from what I see locally for me, last time around the WM exclusive Rogue packs didn't sell well.  Maybe WM put its mighty foot down and said we aren't taking it on the chin again?  Afterall, to me atleast, this pack is less exciting than the two Rogues offered in the last pack.

Well, all Hasbro would say on the record is that the pack was dropped "because of the subject matter (http://hanshideout.blogspot.com/2010/02/hasbro-star-wars-q-session-22.html)". 

I thought that maybe Wal-Mart didn't want more X-Wing pilots so that's what they're referring to as "subject matter"

Back on the topic of Plourr/Dllr...  I've received a few emails from folks saying they got their Plo/Dllr pack and there is a sticker on the bubble that says something like Note: Comic May Contain Material Not Appropriate for Young Children or something like that.

If Walmart did dump it simply because it was more Rebel Pilots like you guys were speculating, Hasbro sure is going out of their way to hide that fact...  ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 19, 2010, 07:29 PM
That was one the conspiracy theories I believed in - but after inspection - I am thinking it is the "kissing cousins" factor.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2010, 01:50 AM
Yeah I read the story eons ago but guess I forgot about the cousins getting it on...  I could see someone throwing a fit over that at Wally.  I find it kind of funny they asked for these to the point they went through production and then bailed.  WM's a bunch of dicks.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2010, 02:17 AM
A retailer has a right to choose what the carry, no?  But regardless of the reasoning, this probably works out in Wal-Mart's favor... and will maybe help make more room for the non-exclusive comic packs hopefully.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2010, 02:29 AM
A retailer has a right to choose what the carry, no?  But regardless of the reasoning, this probably works out in Wal-Mart's favor... and will maybe help make more room for the non-exclusive comic packs hopefully.

Yes, but once a manufacturer commits to making a product for the retailer, and they bail, they're dicks...  But such is the way of Wal-Mart, they control manufacturers like that, and I'm sure Hasbro was happy once stores like EE stepped up to the plate on the comic.  I've had the joy of seeing WM's ability to single-handedly screw a manufacturer from other angles.  It's really quite fascinating how the NEED to deal with them leaves a lot of companies at the mercy of their whims.

As far as it "making room" on the pegs...  that's assuming they'd have done poorly, or more to the point, as poorly as the other two sets are likely to do.  Like I said, your vision of Rebel Pilot sets is a regional thing because they were quick to go right behind the Ewok sets from the last assortment here.  And in other parts of the country the Ewok sets were available for clearance as per reports in the forums here as well.  What you see isn't always (or often) the reality for the country or the view for the "big picture" as it were.  What happens in Pittsburgh isn't what's happening everywhere, and according to Hasbro they're pleased with Rebel Pilot figures at retail, and plan to continue them.  Thus Wedge is on his way for the Vintage line, and Dak.

Also I'm not sure, but cases may have been adjusted to include just more of the other two packs that WM is putting out...  which if they're just filling the space of Plour/Dllr, then heaven help those last waves of comics showing up at Wal-Mart.  My nearest ones pegs were filled with Weir and Mohc sets Wednesday and nothing else but 3 Lea/Xixor sets.  Not much for variety, or replenishment hopes.  Not there anyway.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2010, 01:20 PM
I agree it can be regional - I just think Hasbro has gone overboard with Rebel pilots the past couple years and I've seen it when I travel for work and also keep hearing similar stories from other collectors.
  
But look at it this way - how many Rebel pilots have come out the past two years versus other Rebel army builders?  I bet it's not even close.

By my count since Legacy launched, there's not much Rebel "trooper" offerings outside of main characters like Luke/Han and pilots...

Troops/Other
1 - Hoth Rebel Trooper (Legacy)
2 - Rebel Ground Crew (Yavin Pack In)
3 - Wedge Antilles (Comic Pack Ceremony)

I wouldn't doubt if I'm missing a figure or two in either list, but by contrast, Hasbro has swamped the market with pilots and this has left many TRU stores with a surplus of Rebel Pilot Evolution sets, and many Wal-Marts with excessive exclusive Comic Pack and Evolution Pilot sets of their own.

Pilots
1 - Luke Skywalker (Legends X-Wing Pilot, blue card)
2 - Luke Skywalker (Legends X-Wing Pilot, red card)
3 - Luke Skywalker (Legacy Snowspeeder Pilot)
4 - Dorovio Bold (Evolutions)
5 - Wes Janson (Evolutions)
6 - Ten Numb (Evolutions)
7 - Cesi Eirriss (Evolutions)
8 - Kesin Ommis (Evolutions)
9 - Keyan Farlander  (Evolutions)
10 - John Branon (Evolutions)
11 - Shira Brie (Evolutions)
12 - Jake Farrell (Evolutions)
13 - Ibtisam (Comic Pack)
14 - Nrin Vakil (Comic Pack)
15 - Plourr Ilo (Comic Pack)
16 - Dllr Nep (Comic Pack)
18 - Nien Nunb
17 - Arvel Crynyd (A-Wing Pack-In)
19 - Lieutenant Pollard (B-Wing Pack-In)
20 - Wedge Antilles (X-Wing Pack-In)
21 - Garven "Red Leader" Dreis (Yavin Battle-Pack)

To me, that's overkill and I've lost interest and passed on some of these.  Also note the ones in orange, those are all either X-Wing or Snowspeeder gear... that's a heck of a lot of similar looking pilots all coming out in such a short time span.  You would think there was a Star Wars movie that came out last year called "Attack of the Rebel Pilots" with all the pilots that came out.  I can see them putting out that many clones in this time frame - but Rebel pilots?  Really?

The point here isn't that Hasbro shouldn't be making them, it's that they over-saturated the market in such a short time span.  Mostly for cost saving measures I would bet, because they can keep using the same molds on many of these.  

Now say what you want, but when they're boring someone like me who spends thousands each year on this hobby, resulting in me cutting back significantly, they are doing something wrong.  And they'll blame it on collectors not supporting the line, but when there's over 20 Rebel pilots in just one line from them, screw them if they're going to blame me for not dipping into my wallet to buy every figure they make.

I'd also like to add that it's not just pilots - pretty much all the Comic Packs that are exclusive to Wal-Mart have sucked in the Legacy line.  The pilots are actually great figures, but the overkill of pilots hurts their sales.  And for that the blame goes squarely on Hasbro's shoulders.  Wal-Mart is the biggest retailer and if they're getting stuck with crap figures in their exclusives from Hasbro, they're not going to order the basic Comic Packs in sufficient numbers to support the Comic Pack concept at all.  They don't even have room to stock them on the shelves!

Hasbro probably banked on Wal-Mart putting last year's exclusive Comic Packs on clearance like they did with the last go-round that they couldn't sell, but this time Wal-Mart didn't go down that road.  These half ass attempts that Hasbro has provided Wal-Mart with could very well be what doomed the entire Comic Pack line altogether.  It's not Wal-Mart's fault and it's not the fault of collectors either.  It's certainly not Wal-Mart that's being the dicks in the overall Comic Pack scheme here or collectors.  This is Hasbro's doing.  And now we as collectors are suffering, therefore what really concerns me is the great sets they either canceled or made as hard as hell to get exclusives.  
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2010, 04:29 PM
Where in the world did the last 1/3 of that come from?   ???  It's undirected anger at Hasbro being taken out on the WM exclusive comic packs.

I had more written out but it's really a couple separate topics so this is confusing, but here's the jist of things...

Some Merchandiser at WM (not Hasbro) has bought those.  WM (and all retailers) negotiate exclusives with Hasbro, they don't get these things just shoved down their throats by the manufacturer, especially Wal-Mart who like to dictate to manufacturers on specifics (including costs/pricing per unit).  These sets may have even cost less than the basic comic pack line's wholesale pricing, they're exclusives so they're not the same SKU...  That's also not uncommon for (some) exclusives, and with this last batch and their clear "cheapness" it may have been demanded that another round of exclusive sets come in a cheap price, by Wal-Mart.

I'm the last guy to EVER let Hasbro off the hook.  They do a lot of dumb things I believe, but these packs are hardly a sign of Hasbro doing something wrong.  The retailer wanted them.  There's more of a gripe there about the basic line of comic packs and their choices in THAT line (especially with a lot of those Marvel sets).

And on a different (sort of) topic, WM are the "dicks" for ordering something and backing out on it because it broke some perceived "Political Correctness" issue.  They ordered them, they should have stuck with them and only sold them online or adjusted in some similar capacity.  But because WM's a well-known bully in the world of retailing, they I'm sure told Hasbro "We don't want those now", leaving Hasbro to shop them and hope someone picked them up because THEY already paid to have them made in China.  Last I looked, not paying and accepting something you already agreed to get off a manufacturer was a real "dick move" on the part of the person who agreed to buy it.  It's something few people can get away with, but Hasbro has to maintain that relationship.  What a fun place to be in for them.

As far as Rebel Pilot overload, another completely separate topic...

I think comparing OTHER Rebel army builders is apples and oranges.  I was practically the only person vocally asking for new Rebel Soldiers for many years, even when some people bitched that what we had was good enough and I was wasting a slot, asking too much, and so on.

I want new Rebels too, but new Rebel Troopers are more costly, and the line's a balancing act.  Some old tools fill spots, some new tools fill spots, and so goes the circle of life with the line.  You're going to get a re-used Han Solo to fill that need, and that rehashed Clone and other similar figures are going to pay for the costs of the new Cantina alien, or Leia...  It's why Legends exists.  It's partially why Clone Wars recycles figures in every case, and then some wave you get Whorm Loathsome.

The Rebel Pilot bodies are now pretty well perfected, and Hasbro feels they do well enough at retail to keep going.  They seemed last year to go full tilt to get Rebel Pilots "done" in the sense that now they've got the tooling to make head/helmet variants.  So with that in mind, they're moving forward and making alien pilots from EU, human pilots from film and EU, and so on.  While you're burned out on them CHEWIE, I'm not, nor are many others.  To me, each head variant's a new character I'm stoked to pick up, like Dak...  I've wanted a good Dak for literally a decade!  They're not Clones, and they even came from specific EU and film sources to boot (unlike some Clone repaints).  And Hasbro seems content to keep putting some out...  I doubt we get a year like we did the last year+ with Evolution sets, comic packs (Since those are on hiatus), but we are getting Dak...  We are getting a carded Wedge which I'd like a couple of.  I can see a pack-in pilot or two happening in the next year or two as well.

That, to me, is good.

But Hasbro sunk a lot into tooling up a new B-Wing Pilot, new X-Winger, new Snowspeeder Pilot, and so on...  So if they can slip out a head variant or four in a year to recoup that investment and put more into other figures, I'm for it and I'm sure they are too.  Plus, like I said, they seem to feel they sell well which bodes well for other Rebel army builders I believe.

According to what I have heard, we're getting one of the new Rebel Troopers in 2011 too, and our Q&A boded well for a 3rd to get redone.  Hopefully we see the Hoth one back at retail too.  I know I'd buy more.

Does Hasbro do dumb ****?  Yes, at times for sure, but this topic isn't one of them...  I feel you can't take anything less than 50% of these last WM exclusives blame away from Wal-Mart, and honestly I feel they probably deserve a lot more than that.

The basic comic pack line has mistakes from Hasbro, IMO, and that one I'm with you on...  Like I said, the Marvel sets, doubling up on Leia sets at about the same time...  Bad ideas (for the most part).  But that's a whole other topic to me.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 20, 2010, 09:44 PM
Where in the world did the last 1/3 of that come from?   ???  It's undirected anger at Hasbro being taken out on the WM exclusive comic packs.

Since this is the Comic Packs thread, and I feel that one of the biggest problems with the Comic Pack lines was the Wal-Mart ones - which had a Rebel Pilot set that sat in a lot of areas; I feel there's a link that can be made with Hasbro going cheap by using the same mold too many times in a short time frame.


I had more written out but it's really a couple separate topics so this is confusing, but here's the jist of things...

Some Merchandiser at WM (not Hasbro) has bought those.  WM (and all retailers) negotiate exclusives with Hasbro, they don't get these things just shoved down their throats by the manufacturer, especially Wal-Mart who like to dictate to manufacturers on specifics (including costs/pricing per unit).  These sets may have even cost less than the basic comic pack line's wholesale pricing, they're exclusives so they're not the same SKU...  That's also not uncommon for (some) exclusives, and with this last batch and their clear "cheapness" it may have been demanded that another round of exclusive sets come in a cheap price, by Wal-Mart.

I'm the last guy to EVER let Hasbro off the hook.  They do a lot of dumb things I believe, but these packs are hardly a sign of Hasbro doing something wrong.  The retailer wanted them.  There's more of a gripe there about the basic line of comic packs and their choices in THAT line (especially with a lot of those Marvel sets).

When product made by a company is less than satisfactory, that's the fault of the company that makes the figures.  Is it not?  Look back at the exclusives that Wal-Mart carried before, there's almost always some sort of "crap" packed in there too.  For example, remember the Anakin/Dooku?  That Anakin was a complete waste of plastic. 


And on a different (sort of) topic, WM are the "dicks" for ordering something and backing out on it because it broke some perceived "Political Correctness" issue.  They ordered them, they should have stuck with them and only sold them online or adjusted in some similar capacity.  But because WM's a well-known bully in the world of retailing, they I'm sure told Hasbro "We don't want those now", leaving Hasbro to shop them and hope someone picked them up because THEY already paid to have them made in China.  Last I looked, not paying and accepting something you already agreed to get off a manufacturer was a real "dick move" on the part of the person who agreed to buy it.  It's something few people can get away with, but Hasbro has to maintain that relationship.  What a fun place to be in for them.

Not that I'm trying to back up Wal-Mart, but if a company believes that they were going to be carrying a product that could come back and become some sort of problem with their image, more power to them.  That's how the free market works.  And I'm pretty sure that Hasbro can absorb such a small drop in the bucket to maintain the relationship with any of their retail partners. 


As far as Rebel Pilot overload, another completely separate topic...

I think comparing OTHER Rebel army builders is apples and oranges.  I was practically the only person vocally asking for new Rebel Soldiers for many years, even when some people bitched that what we had was good enough and I was wasting a slot, asking too much, and so on.

I want new Rebels too, but new Rebel Troopers are more costly, and the line's a balancing act.  Some old tools fill spots, some new tools fill spots, and so goes the circle of life with the line.  You're going to get a re-used Han Solo to fill that need, and that rehashed Clone and other similar figures are going to pay for the costs of the new Cantina alien, or Leia...  It's why Legends exists.  It's partially why Clone Wars recycles figures in every case, and then some wave you get Whorm Loathsome.

The Rebel Pilot bodies are now pretty well perfected, and Hasbro feels they do well enough at retail to keep going.  They seemed last year to go full tilt to get Rebel Pilots "done" in the sense that now they've got the tooling to make head/helmet variants.  So with that in mind, they're moving forward and making alien pilots from EU, human pilots from film and EU, and so on.  While you're burned out on them CHEWIE, I'm not, nor are many others.  To me, each head variant's a new character I'm stoked to pick up, like Dak...  I've wanted a good Dak for literally a decade!  They're not Clones, and they even came from specific EU and film sources to boot (unlike some Clone repaints).  And Hasbro seems content to keep putting some out...  I doubt we get a year like we did the last year+ with Evolution sets, comic packs (Since those are on hiatus), but we are getting Dak...  We are getting a carded Wedge which I'd like a couple of.  I can see a pack-in pilot or two happening in the next year or two as well.

That, to me, is good.

Hey now, I don't think by any stretch of the imagination you were the only collector in the Star Wars community asking for more Rebel troops.  You just were the only one with it in your signature.

As for the head swapping, I think it's a great thing and Hasbro would be foolish not to take advantage of it.  But by that token, they can do the same thing with other army builders just the same (and have, to a lesser degree).

Now, you may think the more Rebel Pilots the better regardless of the time frame, but when supply exceeds demand, that philosphy creates a problem for the retailers - and eventually Hasbro.  Just for example today - yes, today, I went about an hour from my house to see relatives - swung by a Wal-Mart that I rarely shop at.  And what did I see in the clearance section?  Four of their exclusive Rebel Pilots sets for $7.00 each.  Then in the regular section, they had five comic packs - all of the Mon Cal/Quarren exclusive set.  That's it - no other comic packs.  Not making that up either out of convenience, as soon as I saw this I was wishing I had my camera just for this thread.

And again, I don't think it's regional.  This is a national trend.  I was in Portland on March 8, went by a Wal-Mart and saw many of those same Comic Packs, along with one Amanin one... I think there were seven of the pilot sets.  Same thing in Kansas City, where was in February for work and also in Springfield, Illinois last month as well.  What you find there is almost a snap shot of all half dozen Wal-Marts that are in the STL area that I hit on a semi regular basis.  Evolution Rebel Pilots and Rebel Comic Packs still, as well as more Evolution Pilots at TRU (the non-exclusive ones of course).

Maybe a few pockets like your area are a hotspot for Rebel Pilots (like you once said about Star Trek figures selling through there while everywhere else around the country people were saying they were collecting dust).  There are exceptions and I believe you when you say your area is different than mine.

And I'm not saying that some Rebel Pilots mixed in here and there is bad - it's great.  But too much of a good thing can become a bad thing.


But Hasbro sunk a lot into tooling up a new B-Wing Pilot, new X-Winger, new Snowspeeder Pilot, and so on...  So if they can slip out a head variant or four in a year to recoup that investment and put more into other figures, I'm for it and I'm sure they are too.  Plus, like I said, they seem to feel they sell well which bodes well for other Rebel army builders I believe.

According to what I have heard, we're getting one of the new Rebel Troopers in 2011 too, and our Q&A boded well for a 3rd to get redone.  Hopefully we see the Hoth one back at retail too.  I know I'd buy more.

And that's fine - a few here and there are a good thing.  It's over twenty being put out in 2 years that is the problem. 


Does Hasbro do dumb ****?  Yes, at times for sure, but this topic isn't one of them...  I feel you can't take anything less than 50% of these last WM exclusives blame away from Wal-Mart, and honestly I feel they probably deserve a lot more than that.

The basic comic pack line has mistakes from Hasbro, IMO, and that one I'm with you on...  Like I said, the Marvel sets, doubling up on Leia sets at about the same time...  Bad ideas (for the most part).  But that's a whole other topic to me.

I feel this topic is a prime example of Hasbro doing dumb ****.  I think the difference is you are a huge fan of pilots, while I see them as just okay.  If we were talking KOTOR characters or something where I have the same bias in favor of them as you do for pilots, I may even be presenting a similar argument as you are right now.

But what this really comes down to again is I think when Hasbro decides to use the same mold over and over in order to try and save a buck, it can end up coming back to bite the retailers (and of course them eventually).  They're getting worse and worse about it over time.  And it's not just with Star Wars either - look at the GI JOE line too and you can see the same trend. 

Anyways, I can't believe either of us spent this much time back and forth on this one... ha ha.  You have good points, I just don't see it the same way because I'm tired of seeing these on the pegs for so long (just like some Legends figures).  I'm going to have a few cold ones tonight and think about anything but Star Wars toys. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 20, 2010, 10:17 PM
Hey Chewie - not to pour salt into the wound, but you forgot three more Rebel Pilot figures from the Legacy line...

22 - WalMart Droid Factory Wave 1 Luke Skywalker
23 - WalMart Droid Factory Wave 2 Corran Horn
24 - Convention Exclusive "Smiley" Luke Skywalker w/X-Wing Ladder

 >:D
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 21, 2010, 02:30 AM
I really like Exar Kun's split-apart lightsaber. I wasn't expecting this at all, and I don't recall his lightsaber being damaged through any of the stories.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 21, 2010, 03:35 AM
Since this is the Comic Packs thread, and I feel that one of the biggest problems with the Comic Pack lines was the Wal-Mart ones - which had a Rebel Pilot set that sat in a lot of areas; I feel there's a link that can be made with Hasbro going cheap by using the same mold too many times in a short time frame.

Hasbro using the same mold to make up costs is part of the reality of collecting today.  It's not going to go away.  If it's this grossly upsetting ot people, I highly suggest abandoning the hobby, and NEVER buying a repack from them, because it's not going to change.

And like I said, Hasbro's saying Rebel Pilots sell.  From their lips to our ears, I've heard this first-hand.  They're not doing well in your area, and apparantly anywhere you travel CHEWIE, and I saw clearanced Evo sets too so I didn't miss clearanced pilots in my area, but retailers don't always necessarilly consider clearance automatically equalling "bad sell-through".  If they met their goals for the prices they paid, they're happy.  

And guess what?  Yup, you're going to see more stuff like them if they're at all happy with what they saw.

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When product made by a company is less than satisfactory, that's the fault of the company that makes the figures.  Is it not?  Look back at the exclusives that Wal-Mart carried before, there's almost always some sort of "crap" packed in there too.  For example, remember the Anakin/Dooku?  That Anakin was a complete waste of plastic.
 

And this is what I keep trying to drive home, and you keep ignoring CHEWIE.  Someone at Wal-Mart, called a Merchandiser, bought that.  There may (and probably even was) direct conversations about the product.  What you see, is often request, especially in the case of exclusive toys like the Droid Factory packs, or the Comic Packs...  Do I think that Anakin sucks?  Hell yeah, of course I do.  But Hasbro has to meet certain standards the retailer expects.  Plus he has to do this at the factory that has the molds he needs to make the assortment.  If that Anakin is all they have to meet that criteria, that's what you get.  It's cheap, it's there to make the new parts less expensive, and to probably make the sets affordable to Wal-Mart who have demanded they meet a specific price-margin.

It's not like Hasbro can pull out any mold, or whip up all-new figures and meet the margins.  

People said, "well look at the Targets Geonosis sets", and yes they're superior I think.  But I don't know what those cost Target, or what Target's merchandiser requested on them.  Perhaps they were more flexible?  Perhaps they have a more knowledgeable buyer?  

Hasbro did NOT shove these toys down Wal-Marts throat though.  Denying that is just ignoring the truth.

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Not that I'm trying to back up Wal-Mart, but if a company believes that they were going to be carrying a product that could come back and become some sort of problem with their image, more power to them.  That's how the free market works.  And I'm pretty sure that Hasbro can absorb such a small drop in the bucket to maintain the relationship with any of their retail partners.  


Acutally, no that's not how the free-market works.  Actually it works under contracts that say if you make this for me, I'll pay you.  But Wal-Mart seems to have decided that something in the material they agreed to purchase wasnt' acceptable after production began.  

You sell your customs online...  If someone ordered something from you, and you said, "Here it is", and it was nice and what was being offered to the person from the start, but they said, "Well I think that aliens boobs are too large, so I'm going to have to say no because it might offend my kids and wife", would you still expect to be paid?  You put in the work, the time, and to the specifications of whatever nudnick ordered it, but once he saw it, some small thing raised his ire, and so you're stuck shopping it around to someone else... possibly at a loss.

I never realized the free-market was so "free".  :)  My economics prof is rolling in his grave...  if he's dead anyway.

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Hey now, I don't think by any stretch of the imagination you were the only collector in the Star Wars community asking for more Rebel troops.  You just were the only one with it in your signature.

Really?  Because I remember lots of arguments against me wanting something that had "already been done good enough" to a number of people, and not many people coming in and saying this or that needed an upgrade along with me.   ???
  
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As for the head swapping, I think it's a great thing and Hasbro would be foolish not to take advantage of it.  But by that token, they can do the same thing with other army builders just the same (and have, to a lesser degree).

Is it fair to compare Rebel Pilots to Death Star Troopers, or Fleet Troopers though?  Rebel Pilots have, afterall, a variety of uniforms, for a variety of molds.  Not to mention different headgear for each.  Then they all have somewhat more memorable sequences with lines and things, compared to other similar army builders...  And then they have EU based on them, which is isn't the same for other similar figures.

I mean it's not like the Fleet Troopers or Endor Rebels really have that.  So will Hasbro get us 4th Yavin Tech from the right at the Ceremony scene?  I hope so, but hey, I'm not counting on it either. :)  But the body is done, and it's a cool figure, so I'm hoping that Hasbro will at least get us more Yavin Techs to buy, even if they're the exact same figure from the battlepack.

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Now, you may think the more Rebel Pilots the better regardless of the time frame, but when supply exceeds demand, that philosphy creates a problem for the retailers - and eventually Hasbro.  


Nope, you're completely wrong.  

What I do believe though, is Hasbro created several new molds between the B-Wing and A-Wing pilot, and all the X-Wing molds, and they are wanting to recoop costs, which they have done well with that, according ot Hasbro saying that Reb Pilots have done well at retail.

They wanted to recoop the costs, they put stuff out to do it, and retailers wanted it.  I know your claim is that you travel, and you see this and that, but if there's one thing in this hobby I've learned, it's that what one guy sees another guy doesn't.  To be perfectly honest, I don't know that you're seeing everything you say, and I just know in my experience it's different, and Hasbro says it's different too.  

Now again, what the retailers and Hasbro consider good sell-through may mean that 25% of something got clearanced.  I don't know that though.  All I have is Hasbro saying they did well, and will slip more into the line-up, and I'm happy about that.  I mean, sorry if I take that as the gospel, and your business trips as the not-so-concrete sales data.

I'm really trying not to sound like a dick, but I just don't know how to say it any other way at this point.  Hasbro overrules what people claim to see at the stores.  If they say Vader sell,s you have to sorta believe that.  If they say Jedi Fighter repaints sell, you sort of have to believe that.


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I feel this topic is a prime example of Hasbro doing dumb ****.  I think the difference is you are a huge fan of pilots, while I see them as just okay.  If we were talking KOTOR characters or something where I have the same bias in favor of them as you do for pilots, I may even be presenting a similar argument as you are right now.

Except I'm backing up my argument by Hasbro saying that what I'm telling you is the truth, and that they do sell well, or at least well enough that Hasbro and retailers have been ahppy with them, and more will be coming.

Seriously, that's the jist of this argument, to me, start to finish.

Hasbro says something does well, and people say, "No way, and you are lying", and that's that.  Or Hasbro says, "We have to put out ++++ because it helps financially support other aspects of the line", and someone replies, "No way, and you are lying".

I'm far from a Hasbro guy, never have been, and I've never been one to let them off the hook with stupid stuff.  I bitch pretty much non-stop about the line, just varying aspects of it.  But no matter what, I can't get behind the, "Hasbro's a bunch of lying jerks" camp tha tfeel like Hasbro is somehow less in the know than they are based on what they see out at stores, or what they see on forums, or what they think they perceive as a "guaranteed sell".

Maybe I've just become a happier collector in my old age where I realize Hasbro's going to put out some stuff that isn't my cup of tea, but which is health for the line's longevity for reasons I maybe can't see, or which aren't immediately tangible in my mind.

As far as blaming Hasbro though, especially on these exclusive comic-packs...  Well I just know too much about the process of exclusive product, and dealing with Wal-Mart to blame Hasbro.  WM's the culprit there.

Maybe someone really angry about it should bring it up with Hasbro then?  Complain about the WM exclusive packs, and whatnot.  I just know it's not all Hasbro there, so I'm not bothering because I think I already am aware what the response would likely be.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on March 21, 2010, 02:15 PM
Like I said Jesse, I can't believe either of us spent this much time back and forth on this discussion.  Each time someone disagrees with something you say, it becomes a very long winded back and forth discussion, and to be honest I don't even care that much who is wrong or right - I just know what I see at retail and what I hear a lot of other collectors say.  So, I'm not actually going to read what you wrote because I don't want to feel compelled to respond with another long winded response that's going to take away from something else I feel is more worthwhile of my time right now, so you can have the last word. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 22, 2010, 06:20 PM
I got the final 5 comic sets today at Target in Mishawaka Indiana.

I just wanted to note something I saw the Kashyyk comic pack. The head sculpt on mine is not the one pictured on the back of the card for the clone with the removable helmet - the head on mine is the head sculpt from the TAC Galactic Marine. He looks fat and has no neck...    :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 22, 2010, 07:13 PM
Re: Plourr/Dllr

Got mine today, it's interesting-- you can just barely make out where the residue is from where the Wal-Mart sticker used to be, just above Dllr.  Plus there are three stickers added to this thing-- product number, "Inappropriate material," and the one covering up the co-sells on the back.  I wonder how long it took them to reconfigure these things after Wal-Mart dumped them...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 22, 2010, 08:15 PM
I got the final 5 comic sets today at Target in Mishawaka Indiana.

I just wanted to note something I saw the Kashyyk comic pack. The head sculpt on mine is not the one pictured on the back of the card for the clone with the removable helmet - the head on mine is the head sculpt from the TAC Galactic Marine. He looks fat and has no neck...    :-\

Runts of the Clone batches perhaps? :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on March 22, 2010, 09:35 PM
I noticed that too with the set I just picked up that head looks ridiculous on that body.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 22, 2010, 09:50 PM
snapped some quick comparisons pics of the actual figure vs what he looks like on the cardback:

(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1143/dsc08562.th.jpg) (http://img528.imageshack.us/i/dsc08562.jpg/)
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/746/dsc08563a.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/dsc08563a.jpg/)

He looks worse in person than the picture is showing...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 22, 2010, 10:43 PM
Wow...  thats...

bad.

And believe me, it looks pretty bad in the photos too.  :-\

This wasn't a set I cared about particularly, but that's still a rough looking figure.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 22, 2010, 11:00 PM
THE PLANE!!! THE PLANE!!!

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g205/Shanicus53/1fi15.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Greg on March 22, 2010, 11:22 PM
I picked up the two Clone sets tonight. The Kashyyyyyk set is nice, but nothing special. The trooper's head does look awful, and they should have kept the Faie head with no scratches painted on. However, when the helmet on the figure is pretty solid.

The Routine Valor set is pretty cool for repaints. The clones have new rifles, complete with grappling hooks. This set provides a nice update to the Utapau Trooper and the Lieutenant is a neat "new" figure. I wouldn't mind seeing the Utapau Trooper (assuming all weapons were included) repacked on the new Vintage card. I'd buy quite a few.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on March 23, 2010, 10:46 AM
I saw these at Target last night while searching for the new battlepacks (unsuccessfully). Very underwhelming.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 23, 2010, 11:27 AM
The repainted Troopers a underwhelming, but the Kun/Droma set is what I love about the CP line. To get to add those big name Sith (if you're into EU) to your collection is awesome.

RIP CPs
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jayson on March 23, 2010, 01:54 PM
Wow...  thats...

bad.

And believe me, it looks pretty bad in the photos too.  :-\

This wasn't a set I cared about particularly, but that's still a rough looking figure.

I was just looking over some of the 09 SDCC photo coverage and the figure they had on display had the Marine head too (although not pushed down as far). So, I guess this was a cobbled together figure for solicitation photography and the intention was always to go with the Bodie sculpt.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 23, 2010, 04:04 PM
Looks like the final five comic packs are now in-stock at HasbroToyShop (http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=495&SBR=610).  Don't forget that Easter20 will save you 20% on your order.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 23, 2010, 04:36 PM
Not a bad deal there.  I have my case pre-ordered so I don't think I'm going to change it, but that's not bad at all.

And I agree, I think the Bogey(ie?) squad came out sort of ****** but the other sets are pretty nice to me.  I like the Utapau one a lot, actually, and Tholme set is really quite nice since it covers a couple important characters from the Clone Wars.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 24, 2010, 02:21 AM
I just received the case of comic packs from EE today.  Overall they aren't bad.  I have a feeling my nephew will receive the Bogey Squad and Shadow Stormtrooper as a gift at some point.  Quick little rundown of each figure I did open:

Luke/Lumiya - Wish I could find a second pack to display a second Lumiya with the alternate Head....great figure overall!  The Luke is ok, although his right hand doesn't hold a lightsaber well.  (Really like the Shoto though).

Darth Krayt/Sigel Dare - Both are great figures overall....I like how Krayt has two different colored eyes.  I might have to track down Sharad and A'Sharad Hett figures to display with him.

T'Raa Saa/Master Tholme - Cool additions to my Jedi shelf.  Decent amount of detail as well.

Ulic Qel-Droma/Exar Kun - Great detail on these figures and nice likenesses.  Ulic also has trouble holding his lightsaber right-handed.

Kyle Katarn/Yuzhan Vong - The Vong is HUGE!  Interesting figure with great detail.  I now hate the YVH droid and I'm not sure I want the right leg and left arm I need to finish him (the YVH was supposed to be a robot version of the Yuzhan Vong even with a mechanical version of the amphistaff).  The Kyle Katarn figure is damn near perfect...if only the ankles were articulated!

Clone Trooper/Clone Lieutenant - Nice clones to flank Obi-Wan somewhere in my collection.  I really need to track down a Commander Cody now!  My only gripe is the Lt did not come with holsters for his pistols.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 24, 2010, 11:08 AM
Even though I have a case on it's way from EE, I still needed openers for the collection and with the Easter20 code, this was too good of an opportunity to pass up. I ordered one of each to open plus army builder extras of the two clone sets. With the code and after shipping and tax, the sets came to $12.60 each, so that's definitely not a bad thing.

Considering I'm really sick with bronchitis and pneumonia at the moment, this was a much more pleasant alternative than trying to go out and track them down...
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 24, 2010, 06:00 PM
Ok - so I got the Rebel Pilots set that was dropped by WalMart due to objectionable content.

I've read through the entire comic twice and I can't find anything that would be so objectionable as to reneg on a business contract like WM did to Hasbro.

Can someone who has read the comic as well please explain it to me why this comic even needed to come with the warning sticker?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 25, 2010, 02:42 AM
I got my Dllr/Plour set as well today...

I like both figures a lot for a couple reasons...

-Dllr it was cool to see Hasbro make sure and use a smaller sculpt available to make a Sullustan.  They didn't on the B-Wing Sullustans and that hurt those figures to me, but on Dllr they used a VTSC Luke Pilot body (even the peg hole for his saber) and it makes a nice smaller figure, so I appreciated that.

I've not had access to another Sullustan to try his helmet on them but I'm betting it fits.

-Plour is cool but her helmet's another figure's I'm guessing, as it's loose-fitting on the figure's head.  Definitely not made for a Sinead O'Connor wannabe.  She uses the basic female X-Winger body (I'd dig seeing a female B and A-Winger someday), but what I thought was cool on her is Hasbro went to the effort of making sure her mellon is a different shade to her face's skintone, thus implying shaved hair there...  I like it.  It's a little thing, but the kind of little thing that shows some effort...  especially on a female figure where the skintones being the same may make her look a tad more manly.  Basically her face has softer features and contrasts with the shaved head.  Pretty neat.

Two Han blasters included...  My Dllr can't hold his (his right hand's open too far for some reason).

Waiting now on my comic case and final Legacy BAD wave case then.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 25, 2010, 10:42 AM
Haven't ordered the EE Comic pack yet. since I picked up all the others this week, I gotta spread the damage.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on March 25, 2010, 02:46 PM
Got my shipping notice from HTS on my 5 sets.  That was quick - less than 24 hours from ordering.   Edit: they shipped at 4pm yesterday.  Less than 4 hours in between ordering and shipping.   :)   :)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: tmanthegreat on March 25, 2010, 02:54 PM
Found the complete wave of comic packs at one of my local Targets yesterday.  Nice figures all around, though I agree with the general consensus about the Kashyyk clone trooper's head change.  I picked up the clone trooper/lieutenant set to go with my Cody figure.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 25, 2010, 09:56 PM
I got my comic 2-packs from HasbroToyShop today - that was REALLY quick - I guess it helps to live in NJ and have HTS shipping out of PA.

Anyway, it is definitely bittersweet to get these sets considering that the line is essentially done - sure there's the Cammie/Fixer set and the Owen/Maul set, but the Deliah Blue/Darth Nihl set would have turned out great if these figures are any indication.

Unlike past sets where one of the two figures in the pack was close to SA but not quite, that isn't the case here - Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma, T'ra Saa and Tholme are all SA with 14 points of articulation. Considering these will be the only versions we ever get of these characters, I'm extremely pleased they put in that extra effort. So all four of these figures are definitely a win in my book.

The Routine Valor set is really nice - the Lieutenant figure makes for a nice variant addition to your Commander Cody forces - the upgrade to the rifles with the grapping hooks is nice as well. Like Matt said - the only thing that could have made this set better is if the Lt. figure used a kama sculpt that included holsters for his two blasters.

The Blackhole Hologram and Stormtrooper set offers something different from the norm which makes it kinda cool (at least to me).

The only real dud in the wave is the Bogey Squad set - why they couldn't have just left the Kashyyyk clone as shown on the package, I'll never know, but at least with the helmet on, the trooper looks somewhat decent, so essentially this Clone from the "special" batch will never be displayed w/o a helmet on. The commander figure is just like the Lt. figure from the Routine Valor set - a nice variation to add to Gree's forces. Both of these sets look like they were rejects from another Order 66 2-pack.

This wave would have been fantastic if they had figured out a way to get the Deliah Blue/Nihl set in it, with the picture of the set actually appearing on the printed cardback for the WM sets, hopefully we'll get that set in some form down the line - even if it's as another exclusive.

I will really miss this line.

I'm still dying to know what was so objectionable about that Rogue Squadron comic that made WM back out of that set.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 26, 2010, 11:00 AM
I got my case from EE.

Master Tholme was always one of my favorite characters and his figure is really awesome! I am so pleased with him and Tra saa, once K'Kruck is in hand I will be very happy that Hasbor managed to get the key EU Jedi Done. It's sets like this I will miss, had they stayed with stronger characters like this I beleive this line would be thriving. This is what I will miss.

The Exar Kun set is ok, I never was a huge fan of the storyline. The skirt on Kun limits the leg articulation. The Blackhole set is kinda useless but is intersting. The routine valor set is pretty lame, the orange is too dull and does not match Cody plus they have less wear deco than the Saga2 Clones. I still like them better. The Commander is ok and I do like the new weapons.

Outside of the head I kind of like the Bogy squad. I have so many extra Faies I can swap the head but if you leave the helmet on you cannot even tell. While we do have some more CP's on tap this line will be missed. I always looked forward to them but the waiter wedge and blackhole crap is what killed this line.

RIP

Agreed on Pete's Deliah Blue/Darth Nihl assessment, they would have been great and looked on par with the Tholme set.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on March 26, 2010, 12:17 PM
Agreed on Pete's Deliah Blue/Darth Nihl assessment, they would have been great and looked on par with the Tholme set.

GRR, those two figures are the ones I was looking forward to the MOST from Hasbro's presentation last year. As well as Jarael.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 26, 2010, 12:28 PM
gotta agree - I have read some of Legacy so I know who Deliah Blue/Darth Nihl are, but I don't even really know much about Jarael and the other he was packed with and i was really liking it too!

imo- we will see them - hasbro spent money on them already, fans liked what they saw - they aren't going to let them rot - we will see them someday!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on March 26, 2010, 03:05 PM
I got my set of 12x Dllr Nep and Plourr Ilo comic packs in the mail today from EE.  I really like both figures as X-Wing pilots and there's lots of opportunity here for customization.  The custom sized helmet for Dllr is sweet - I like that they've made custom helmet shapes and sizes for the various alien X-wing pilots.  The Plourr would make an awesome base for a Jaina pilot - I will definitely consider grabbing extras if these go on clearance/sale.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on March 26, 2010, 03:46 PM
Agreed on Pete's Deliah Blue/Darth Nihl assessment, they would have been great and looked on par with the Tholme set.

GRR, those two figures are the ones I was looking forward to the MOST from Hasbro's presentation last year. As well as Jarael.

I know, I was too. I would not be surprised they have them on tap for 2011 exclusives despite them saying otherwise. I think the CP exclusives are going to do very well this year and will entice them to get some sculpts out like Nom, Norogi and others that we never got to really see.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 26, 2010, 03:57 PM
The thing with the Nihl/Blue set is it may or may not have even been tooled, as hardcopies were never seen, just prototypes.  With the line canning up at the wave it is, I think there's a distinct chance that set never had the major work put into it, and so it's much less likely to be seen ever.  I could be wrong and certainly hope I am for the people who really want that set.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on March 26, 2010, 04:13 PM
At Toy Fair, Hasbro said there was a good chance that everything they had in the works would be put out eventually - either via exclusive comic packs (like Camie/Fixer, Maul/Owen, etc) or by just mixing them into the basic figure waves...  to refresh:

Sounds like at some point, we will get an EU wave on the "vintage" cardbacks.  Probably not until late 2011, early 2012 but there will be EU on the cards at some point. 

- The eventual EU wave (whenever it happens) will likely hold a few of the cancelled comic pack guys - Noghri, Ralra, Nom Anor, etc.

The point came up when they were discussing the Bastilla Shan figure and how they'd like EU to make a little comeback to go along with her fan choice figure (late 2011/early 2012).  They confirmed that they do have quite a few of the cancelled comic pack figures tooled up, they just need to find the right time/place to drop them back into the line. 

I'm sure they will be coy in the Q&A whenever they come up (practicing 'CYA' in case they never do get out), but yeah they will definitely try to get most of those cancelled figures out there eventually.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on March 26, 2010, 05:46 PM
One thing you could ask in a Q&A is how far the Jarael, Deliah Blue and Darth Nihl figure got, were they only hard copies or were molds made.  If you limited the number of "outs" they had at answering we may get a better idea.  If any of those figures only got as far as the sculpt or a hardcopy then we may never get them but if molds were cut and some of the photos we saw were painted first shots then we have a much better chance at them coming out.

I know Blue and Nihl were in the cabinets at SDCC 2009 so they at least made the hardcopy stage.  I don't know if Hasbro does internal first shots anymore (protomold or whatever they call it) so if they weren't hardcopies and Hasbro doesn't do protomolds, then they'd be first shots from molds in China.

The key is wording the question to find out which stage those figs made it to.  If we could get a black and white answer from them we'd at least be able to take a guess at their ultimate future, a question Hasbro probably wouldn't answer in any definitive way.

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Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 27, 2010, 02:25 AM
The figures I've seen at shows are often resin hand-painted prototypes, not hard copies/test shots of figures.  Like you'll notice on a lot of the Toy Fair imagery you can see the pins in the shoulder joints and things.  I don't know if that's the case for most shows, just the ones I've been to seem to be that way.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 27, 2010, 01:26 PM
I recently went back and bought up almost all of the Legacy comics I was missing (I'm down to only needing three issues out of the 45 so far) and I also picked up the graphic novels that collected the entire Vector storyline - and I have to say, the Vector storyline was actually pretty cool.

It also got me thinking about another fatal flaw of the comic pack line - they never gave a buyer the opportunity to get three or four issues of the same comic as part of purchasing a wave of figures.

Many times, Dark Horse will have an issue of a comic book series pick right up where the previous issue left off. In addition, they often have the end of that same book be nothing more than a lead-in to next month's issue.

While this makes good business sense on Dark Horse's part, it doesn't really lend itself to a single issue being packaged and sold along with two figures. Essentially, the comic book is a valueless "bonus" and what you're really buying is the two figures - unless you go to your local comic shop or look online to buy the rest of the issues that make up that storyline.

So if Hasbro were to ever revist the comic pack concept, I would like it if they brought the "themed wave" approach to this sub-line.

Throughout the run of Legacy, they have done sub-stories that were spread out over two or four issues. Why not put those sets of two or four issues together in the same assortment - and then advertise that if you buy both packs (in the case of a two issue story) or all four packs (in the case of a four issue story) you will be able to read the ENTIRE story.

Sure we would want them to keep the figure offerings in the packs strong, but it couldn't hurt that someone who collected the toys would also get a set of issues from a single comic book series that actually told a complete story - it would turn the valueless "bonus" comic book into something worth having since it would be "complete".

Taking the idea one step further, there were twelve issues from across four comic book lines that made up the Vector storyline.

Why not release three cases with four new sets in each (2 of each set in a case) and cover the entire twelve issue run? The first case could have all four issues from Knights of the Old Republic, the second case could have the two issues from Dark Times and two issues from Rebellion and then the last case could have the four issues from Legacy. Market the three cases as covering the entire Vector storyline and hype the fact that the twelve comic packs will bring 24 characters from that series to "life" as action figures.

What do you guys think?

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darby on March 27, 2010, 03:38 PM
I think it would work, but maybe if it were spread out.  They could do an entire arc (2-4 issues) over the course of a year.  I think doing 4 comic packs from the same arc at once would be difficult in terms of character selection, or even interest; for me at least, not being a big SW comic reader, it would have to be a very significant story for me to invest in.  I think for Hasbro to commit to a single story like that all at once, it would have to be a 'bigger' entertainment event than a comic arc.  Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 27, 2010, 04:55 PM
You could kinda look at the Marvel Universe comic pack line as a comparision.  All of the comic packs were encompassing the whole "Secret Wars" story  -which was 12 issues.  Did it do well?  I dunno - it looks as if they sit on the shelf too, so kinda "meh".

Now that the MU line has done all 12 issues - they are changing the comic pack selection - they aren't going to be covering one story anymore - but they are going to a random/greatest hits selection I believe.  So we will see how that goes.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on March 27, 2010, 05:01 PM
The figures I've seen at shows are often resin hand-painted prototypes, not hard copies/test shots of figures.  Like you'll notice on a lot of the Toy Fair imagery you can see the pins in the shoulder joints and things.  I don't know if that's the case for most shows, just the ones I've been to seem to be that way.

I believe those actually are the hardcopies, Jesse.  They would sculpt the figure and cast it then create a resin hardcopy that they could pin together and paint.  They use them to check the detail and as the paint masters.  The hardcopies are what get turned into molds.  The first shots are taken from the mold to make sure it worked right.

One extra step that Kenner used to do was to take the hardcopy and create their own mold in-house and create some first shots from it with plastic before sending the stuff to the factory.  I don't think Hasbro still does that but I'm not positive.

The stuff we see in the Hasbro cases at shows are sometimes the hardcopies and then we also see the ones with the lettering on them at times (HFE or something similar), those come from the factories and are plastic first shots taken from the molds.

Some of the recent figures, including Deliah and Nihl, had their articulation joints and everything but were hand painted.  So they could either be hardcopies or first shots.  If they're only hardcopies then there might not be any molds in China which would make it easier for Hasbro to can them permanently.

If they're painted first shots from China, then the molds are made and there's a better shot at getting them eventually.

On the themed waves of comic packs, personally I'd have loved that.  I didn't like getting one issue of a comic that was part of a 4 issue arc because I didn't want to go track down the issues to read the outcome of the story (or what led up to the end in some instances).  The only problem is what happens if you have a 4 story arc that doesn't have more than 2 or 3 interesting characters.  I read through the comic that came with Ki-Adi and Sharad Hett, for example.  I don't know the whole story but besides A'Sharad Hett and Aurra Sing, could you have padded out a larget set comic packs with characters from that story arc?

AT this point if the comic sets are done I'm not going to cry over them, with two exceptions; I wan that Deliah Blue/Nihl set and I want at least Jareal from that pack.  I can't get too upset over toys that weren't shown, but those were so I want them.  Plus, I have to say I really wanted a Zayne Carrick to go with Jareal (Yes, KOTOR had a lot of excellent characters that needed figure treatment, but those two seemed a must).

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Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on March 27, 2010, 11:22 PM
Just picked up:

T'ra Saa & Tholme
Ulic Qel-Droma and Exar Kun
Stormtrooper and Blackhole Hologram
Clone Trooper Lieutenant and Clone Trooper
Clone Trooper (Kasyyyk looking) and Clone Commander
And Plourr Ilo and Dllr Nep came from EE

Is that everything that's currently showing up?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 28, 2010, 08:59 AM
Just picked up:

T'ra Saa & Tholme
Ulic Qel-Droma and Exar Kun
Stormtrooper and Blackhole Hologram
Clone Trooper Lieutenant and Clone Trooper
Clone Trooper (Kasyyyk looking) and Clone Commander
And Plourr Ilo and Dllr Nep came from EE

Is that everything that's currently showing up?

Yes, if you have all of the other comic packs up to this point, you're caught up.

And at this time the only two comic packs left will be a Cammie/Fixer pack from the Empire comic book series exclusive to Celebration V and a Darth Maul/Uncle Owen pack from the Visionaries graphic novel exclusive to SDCC.

We've also seen pictures of a Deliah Blue/Darth Nihl set from the Legacy comic book series and a Jareal/Rohlan Dyre set from the Knights of the Old Republic - hopefully those two sets will make it out at some point, even if it's just the four figures individually carded.

And lastly there was an Heir to the Empire set with a Noghri Warrior & Ralrracheen in the works, and also it seems that there has been a Nom Anor figure in the works for a while, I'm pretty sure the figure would be based on his appearance in Crimson Empire II - for this figure though, all we've see are sculpts (I think).

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on March 28, 2010, 02:50 PM
Is the Black Hole/Stormtrooper really based on a comic though? This sounds like something from the super-old comic strip which ran in newspapers.

I loved that strip, but I can't stomach the Dark Horse shiite. Did they just recycle the stuff that ran in papers years back? Or was it more of a "re-imagining"?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on March 28, 2010, 03:33 PM
Is the Black Hole/Stormtrooper really based on a comic though? This sounds like something from the super-old comic strip which ran in newspapers.

...which as luck would have it was colorized and reprinted by Dark Horse Comics.   It's in issue #1 of Classic Star Wars: The Early Adventures.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on March 31, 2010, 09:15 PM
I opened my comic sets tonight that just arrived...

I pretty much am in the same camp as everyone else on what works in these, and what does not.  All the "new" sets are pretty decent save for two which I think aren't that great.

Bogey Squad and the Black Hole set are my least favorites.  I don't care for Marvel sets anyway so I just don't have an interest in that set, and the Bogey Trooper's head really disappoints me.  That seemed like a goofy choice.  Tholme and Droma's sets are great, and I think the Routine Valor set is a really neat army building set that may be underrated by many.  It's very cool.

I'm going to sell the rest of the case I think, and call it a day on comic packs other than exclusives.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 1, 2010, 01:35 PM
The figures I've seen at shows are often resin hand-painted prototypes, not hard copies/test shots of figures.  Like you'll notice on a lot of the Toy Fair   Plus, I have to say I really wanted a Zayne Carrick to go with Jareal (Yes, KOTOR had a lot of excellent characters that needed figure treatment, but those two seemed a must).

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I too would have like a Zayne Carrick. But, unfortunately, Hasbro said that they most likely wouldn't EVER get to him, thanks to the death of the CP line. But they are most likely (I hope) gonna release Nihl and Deliah in some way, because, well, why waste money developing and finishing a product if you're not gonna release it?  ???

All the CPs I see at my local stores are Leia/Xizor and re-released red/white packaging Bothan in blue tunic (don't know his name) sets. I'm getting angry because it's already April, and the Krayt/Lumiya/Vong sets were released around August, and I have not EVER seen them in person. I'm just gonna have to rely on the secondary market now, being that I don't buy off the Internet.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on April 1, 2010, 02:55 PM
Just picked up:

T'ra Saa & Tholme
Ulic Qel-Droma and Exar Kun
Stormtrooper and Blackhole Hologram
Clone Trooper Lieutenant and Clone Trooper
Clone Trooper (Kasyyyk looking) and Clone Commander
And Plourr Ilo and Dllr Nep came from EE

Is that everything that's currently showing up?


Do you also have the two new WM Exclusive sets?  Those are the only other two "new" sets I've seen in a while.  Sure is a lot of interest in these for a line that isn't selling well enough for Hasbro. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2010, 03:05 PM
Yep - I think there's certainly demand/interest for this line, but Hasbro screwed up royally with a couple of bad waves, compounded by Wal-Mart having some exclusives not selling that took up shelf space and caused a bottleneck for the other waves to not be ordered. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on April 1, 2010, 04:44 PM
Do you also have the two new WM Exclusive sets?  Those are the only other two "new" sets I've seen in a while.  Sure is a lot of interest in these for a line that isn't selling well enough for Hasbro. 

Nope, I haven't been to a Wal-mart in quite a while.  Are they out and relatively abundant right now?  I could try to get out there this weekend, but it's quite a bit of effort to get to one nowadays.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on April 1, 2010, 04:46 PM
I've seen them at 2 of my local WMs, so I'd say they're pretty abundant.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on April 1, 2010, 05:17 PM
I've seen them at 2 of my local WMs, so I'd say they're pretty abundant.

I'd say they are out and have been for weeks, but not sure I would use the word abundant.   ;)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on April 1, 2010, 05:51 PM
Well maybe abundant was the wrong word, but it's shocking that I found these at 2 different stores.  WM seems to have gotten their exclusive act somewhat together.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: efranks on April 1, 2010, 08:35 PM
Got my case of the final wave today from EE.com.  I like the Exar/Ulic and Tholme/T'ra sets as well as the Utapau Troopers since that's still my favorite deco from ROTS.

I don't really care for the other two sets, Bogey Squad and Stormy/Blackhole.  I've never been a fan of the green camo Clone deco and the Stormy set just is kind of boring.  I may keep that one but I don't know about Bogey Squad.

I'm also not sure what to do with the 3 re-packs.  It would be nice to have the pair of Vong figures and a second Lumiya to display both heads, but I can't decide if I'd rather have the cash back for them or not.  ****...you wouldn't think it would be that hard to decide.   :-\

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Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on April 1, 2010, 10:28 PM
I would use the word abundant to describe the current WM packs...  Every WM I have around me has at least half the comic pegs packed with their exclusive assortment.  Others have nothing but those sets since they had only one or two sets left anyway, and pretty much skipped the last assortment (the Katarn/Vong, Krayt/Sigil sets, and so on).  Only Target got those in locally in any abundance.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on April 2, 2010, 07:02 PM
I would use the word abundant to describe the current WM packs...  Every WM I have around me has at least half the comic pegs packed with their exclusive assortment.  Others have nothing but those sets since they had only one or two sets left anyway, and pretty much skipped the last assortment (the Katarn/Vong, Krayt/Sigil sets, and so on).  Only Target got those in locally in any abundance.

Must be nice.  I've only seen these at one store so far.   :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on April 3, 2010, 01:06 AM
Not really...  It's pretty prohibitive for the last wave of comic packs to get out now at WM, which was about the only place with pegspace...  And Target's had a back-up of comics for eons.  They got the Krayt wave in, but the repacks with that group seemed to back up pretty good.  They barely got the last wave in too, but enough to find it...  so I'm not too hopeful for the final wave to show there in any abundance either.  :-\
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 4, 2010, 02:12 AM
After months of scouring my local Targets for the Krayt/Katarn/Lumiya CPs, I finally (FINALLY!!) scored the Kyle Katarn set at a local convention (not Target)! ;D I was a little upset that I couldn't find the other 2 sets, but oh well, this will hold me off until I can somehow get them!!

A point to note: has anyone noticed the 30th Anniversay logo (http://www.rebelscum.com/2009/tlcCP03vong-katarn2.jpg) the upper right hand corner of the comic cover?

I'm very surprised, considering that line was 3 years ago (already!)! But, also, on the inside back cover, there is an ad for the ESB wave (Wave 6?) of the TAC! Hasbro is just WAAY too behind!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Master_Phruby on April 4, 2010, 12:41 PM
It's too bad you had to go to a convention to get these. Hasbro toy shop has them in stock right now. They also have a 10% off coupon for all star wars purchases over $20. Use code sw2010.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on April 5, 2010, 03:19 PM
I found both the IG-97 and Shadow Scout sets on Saturday. (I couldn't post before now since I was away for the weekend.)

Man, what a crock of a price at almost $15. These were supposed to be a value deal. I'm not at all entralled with the scout that has the red bandoliers. I'll keep the one I have, but I won't get a second set, though I'd like two more of the regular black scouts.

The IG-97 set is ok. I like the droid. I did buy two of this set for an extra imperial. I suppose I'll custom the other IG droid. Heh, I think the droid looks like a redneck battle droid. LOL
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on April 5, 2010, 04:15 PM
I passed on the Scout set because it was just so bad and not worth $15. I loved the IG-97 set and if you have an extra Needa Rahm's head fits perfectly on it. The below pic is from my collection it's small but you can see in in the front row dead center. He looks great. I also swapped his hands to they also fit perfectly on Needa's  arms.

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/MARCHCOLLECTIONO.jpg)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: ruiner on April 5, 2010, 06:01 PM
Those new Darktroopers look nice.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 6, 2010, 12:26 AM
I actually FINALLY got the Krayt/Dare set as an Easter gift! Boy oh boy, am I happy! These are impossible to find in the SF neck of the woods - the people I got it from said they got it from a Wal-mart outside of SF! 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on April 14, 2010, 03:23 PM
I saw a full set of the new Comic Packs at Target this morning and had to bite on the Stormtrooper/Blackhole set. I really loved that comic strip as a kid. This fits nicely into my niche collecting of offbeat Star Wars swag. Plus it's just nice to spend some money on a new toy for a change...seems like forever.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on April 15, 2010, 02:03 AM
Well if anyone happens to see them and wouldn't mind picking up one of each for me I'd be most appreciative.  I've made the trek out to the burbs two weekends in a row without any luck and I won't be able to go for the next few.  I'm a little worried about the availability... being the end of the comic pack line and all I'm assuming they were produced in smaller numbers.

As much as I hate Wal-mart, not having one nearby is a pain in the ass for things like this.

Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on April 15, 2010, 02:31 AM
I managed to score my last two comic 2-packs this morning at a local Target.  They had 2 of each on the pegs, so the pickings were pretty good.  It was good to see these show up, especially with them being the last mainline offerings of this line.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on April 19, 2010, 01:14 PM
I got the last 3 I needed from HTS and they arrived on Saturday - Woohoo!  Nice to be caught up on something for a change.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Greg on April 19, 2010, 06:55 PM
If anyone is still after the Plourr Ilo and Dllr Nep Comic Pack, banthaskull.com (http://www.banthaskull.com/) is offering the set to members for $17.50 shipped in the US. The only catch is that you have to register to the forums, but I guess you don't have to use the account. Take advantage of a decent offer to save yourself some coin!
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: McMetal on April 20, 2010, 02:23 AM
If anyone is still after the Plourr Ilo and Dllr Nep Comic Pack, banthaskull.com (http://www.banthaskull.com/) is offering the set to members for $17.50 shipped in the US. The only catch is that you have to register to the forums, but I guess you don't have to use the account. Take advantage of a decent offer to save yourself some coin!

That's actually a pretty shrewd idea. Too bad I can't access that site at work.  >:(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 20, 2010, 03:00 AM
Not a bad deal. I still have to order mine, but was going to wait until a week after I picked up the TRU EU stuff.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on April 22, 2010, 03:13 AM
I wonder if the CPs will go into a state of discount/sale considering the line is coming to an end. I'm still seing Xizor and Thrawn packs that I have yet to score, but I'm wondering if these will ever hit $12 or under... right now they're still full price @ $14 and something cents.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: STARKILLER on May 7, 2010, 09:35 PM
i finally scored the blackhole hologram shadow trooper pack at target,what a cool pack
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on May 7, 2010, 11:44 PM
I noticed that there were remnants of this wave at a Target tonight.  First I'd seen of them at a store.  No Clone packs to be seen anywhere though, just the 2 Jedi sets which, to me, were the superior sets.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 23, 2010, 03:41 AM
SO I had an interesting shopping experience at Target.

So I'm always finding the Krayt/Lumiya/Vong CP wave at Target, minus the Krayt/Lumiya/Vong sets.. It's always the repacks I find (Vader/Rebel, Mundi/Hett... etc.), never the newer 3 sets. It's like someone purposely holds these 3 sets back. I'm pretty sure I bought the only Lumiya/Luke they had in stock (which was May 2nd), and they're slooowly flushing the repack sets through the pegs, instead of simply putting out the entire case, leaving the CP pegs pretty much half-empty. Anyway...

So I see a single repacked Mundi/Hett set (which is the ONLY CP on the pegs), and I pretty much know that somewhere back there in the storerooms they have the remaining sets. So I see a Target employee, an older woman, trudging through the toy aisle. Why I decided to ask her, I don't know. ???

I approach her, and indicate a picture of the Krayt/Dare set on the back of the Mundi/Hett set, which I have in my hand, to pretty much see if the remaining sets are in the back. I politely ask if they happen to have that set, and she just looks at me emptily, eyebrow slightly raised. When she makes no indication that she feels like answering, I say, "...or is what's on shelf all there is?", and I get a simple, "Yeah." Hot damn! Guess the Emperor was having a bad day. The first time I ever ask for action figure-related assistance at a Target store, and I get that lovely response.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 24, 2010, 08:40 PM
Hey, is the T'ra Saa & Tholme set still out? It's really the last comic pack I wanted. Is it a Walmart exclusive?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on May 24, 2010, 09:24 PM
It's part of the last basic wave of comic packs...  So far I think it's really only showed much at Target...  I've seen remnants of that wave only once, and ordered a case to avoid the hastle through EE.

I'm not sure how many are likely to come out but there's a while before the new packaging hits, so I imagine there may be more coming in the pipelines yet.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on May 25, 2010, 03:28 PM
The only place I've ever seen the wave is at TRU.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 25, 2010, 10:38 PM
The only place I've ever seen the wave is at TRU.

Really, I have not heard these hit TRU. I cam across these at once at Target. I love the Thomle pack, those figures are great for customs. I am glad I ordered these online this wave was overall underwhelming. The summer exclusives will be a better way to end this line. I am really looking forward to the Owen and Cammie packs.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 26, 2010, 01:15 PM
Only set I still need is the Exar Kun set.

I bought the rest from HTS.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on May 26, 2010, 02:16 PM
The only place I've ever seen the wave is at TRU.

Really, I have not heard these hit TRU. I cam across these at once at Target. I love the Thomle pack, those figures are great for customs. I am glad I ordered these online this wave was overall underwhelming. The summer exclusives will be a better way to end this line. I am really looking forward to the Owen and Cammie packs.

Yeah - the same TRU has gotten in this wave twice that I know of, and another TRU at least once.  Not a sniff since though. 

I did hear that they showed up at one Target in my area, but I never saw them at one.  Distribution sucks, which isn't much of a surprise. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Nicklab on May 26, 2010, 06:58 PM
If you wanted to pick up that last wave of comic packs you would've had a lot more luck a month ago.  They were hitting both Target and TRU.  WalMart seems to have bailed since they had their own comic 2-pack exclusives.

I don't think this is a case of distribution sucking.  I think it's more a case of supply of inventory being tight.  And it's classic last wave syndrome:  Hasbro announces that it's the last wave in a line and everyone's out to score it as fast as they can.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: CHEWIE on May 26, 2010, 08:14 PM
Perhaps that is the case, but I wouldn't be surprised to see these showing up later at discount outlets.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 31, 2010, 01:13 PM
I finally received my my Pilot 2-pack from EE. Nice little set. I find it funny that the very few comic from the SW line I I collected over the years are the ones that got re-produced for this comic book series in general.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on May 31, 2010, 03:18 PM
I didn't know where else to put this, but whatever...

I was reading the comic book from the Lumiya/Luke set, and I noticed that, after Luke disarms Lumiya of her whip in their second duel, she yells, "Stay away from me!" She then proceeds to jump out at Luke, weaponless, and Luke then slashes away her helmet and some armor with his lightsaber. Not the smartest move on Lumiya's part. ???
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on July 29, 2010, 02:13 PM
Finally got a 2nd Darth Krayt/Dare CP for openers. I was surprised by the pristine shape of the packaging, and the box holding it was friggin' HUGE!! Gosh. There could have been a portrait in there. Very disappointed by the paint apps on Krayt. Overall, a very awkwardly-constructed figure. The paint apps on Dare's face have been revised for a crisper look.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Scockery on July 31, 2010, 12:25 AM
Even though I've little interest in that future era storyline, I got that Krayt and Dare set for $7 something at Target. Also got the Wedge and Borssk pack, too. I don't understand why they made that Wedge. A dress uniform from the Expanded Universe? Was that really something in demand, even by the EU fanbase? Borssk is okay, but I keep wanting to pose the arms like they have ball joints. Many Bothans arms popped out to bring you this post. (Okay, one Bothan's arms almost popped out.)
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on February 20, 2011, 01:23 PM
Can someone fill me in on this thing?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/eecomic-7825.jpg)

Was it canceled or did I miss it?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jeff on February 20, 2011, 01:37 PM
It was one of the cancelled sets.  It would have been in a future wave of comics packs, had the comic pack line lived.

Since they're basically repaints, no one is really clamoring for them to get made at this point, unlike some of the other cancelled comic pack figures (Nom Anor, Nohgri, etc).
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Rob on February 20, 2011, 02:00 PM
Perfect, thanks.  I figured they were canceled but since other canceled sets have made it out I wasn't sure if I could file this one under dead. 
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: iFett on February 20, 2011, 08:38 PM
Even though I don't open my figures - I dug the white Vader for some reason.  This would have been a nice compliment in the comic pack line.  Oh well....
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jabba the Slug on February 21, 2011, 04:27 AM
At this rate, better the Han/Luke set was cancelled, since the upcoming TVC Bespin Han is loads better.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: NightVyper on February 21, 2011, 07:50 AM
i liked the new EE exclusive comic packs. I want to get the baron fel pack when drops in price to something reasoable.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 21, 2011, 01:35 PM
i liked the new EE exclusive comic packs. I want to get the baron fel pack when drops in price to something reasoable.

Save your money...it's a complete load of crap.  Check our reviews section.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: JediJman on February 21, 2011, 04:47 PM
HTS has several comic packs on sale right now for as low as $7-8.  Just a head's up for anyone looking to army build or fill in gaps.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on February 21, 2011, 04:50 PM
i liked the new EE exclusive comic packs. I want to get the baron fel pack when drops in price to something reasoable.

Save your money...it's a complete load of crap.  Check our reviews section.

Thanks for the plug!

And yes, avoid it.  It's pretty horrible.  Other sets in the case were far better.  Even ones with characters I was completely clueless on were more appealing and I'm a big Rogue Squad fan.  :(
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: NightVyper on February 21, 2011, 08:49 PM
I want the head from the baron. I repainted the original baron fel from the TAC comic pack in tie interceptor gear but i want the bearded head for it. I also wouldn't mind the black helmet.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on February 21, 2011, 08:58 PM
The head's a lot to pay for one set, I hope you can get one cheap enough.  I wasn't even impressed with the headsculpt that much. :(  I always liked the cover-art of him in front of a TIE Cockpit with the kill markings on it and no beard.  That was always my preferred look of the character over how he appeared inside the comics I guess.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: NightVyper on February 21, 2011, 09:04 PM
I am hoping to see it for like 10 bucks maybe less i don't think it is going to go anywhere. the mandalorian 2 pack is sweet tho, i bought a second one for modding.
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: Jesse James on May 23, 2011, 02:16 AM
As per the front page...

If you have a Ross Dress For Less nearby, they are getting the Plourr Illo/Dllr Nep Comic pack in at some or possibly all of their stores...  I picked a pack up Sunday for $5.99...  I'm hearing 1 pack per store though, so not maybe something that everyone will see.  One store I hit had none, one had one, so your mileage will vary if you have Ross stores near you.

For $5.99 though, hey...  Why not?
Title: Re: Legacy Collection Comic Packs
Post by: King_Maul on June 10, 2011, 07:24 PM
I came across 2 of these packs at a local Ross yesterday.  For 5.99, I picked up one of them even though my collecting has dropped off quite a bit recently.