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Title: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jeff on July 23, 2008, 04:53 PM
Holy Sarlaac, Batman!   :o 

(http://www.rebelscum.com/2008/SDCC08-Sarlaac-01.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/2008/SDCC08-Sarlaac-03.jpg)

Apparently, the set includes the Sarlaac, the Skiff, Jedi Luke, TSC Carbonite Han, Lando, Weequay, and Boba Fett.  More pics at Rebelscum! (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/SDCC08_Hasbros_Sarlaac_Playset_116363.asp)
Title: Re: Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: iFett on July 23, 2008, 04:55 PM
Didn't Hasbro already say there's no way in hell they'd ever make this  ???
Title: Re: Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: Nicklab on July 23, 2008, 04:58 PM
I had read about the Skiff in the Q&A's.  But the Sarlacc Pit is a complete and welcome surprise.  Too bad about the repack figures though.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: Daigo-Bah on July 23, 2008, 05:07 PM
Bravo for Hasbro making these things for collectors.  However, there was no beak in the Sarlacc  :P.  Really, there wasn't.  I'll skip this since I have 2 skiffs and all of those figures, and the playset is too small for the display I have, but I'm glad some will like it!
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: Morgbug on July 23, 2008, 05:15 PM
Did it have the beak in a later revision or am I just confusing it with the Millenium Falcon eating/mynock hosting asteroid worm?
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: Nicklab on July 23, 2008, 05:39 PM
The beak was a Special Edition addition.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: David on July 23, 2008, 05:53 PM
Very cool! What a nice surprise!

Now let's just hope a Sail Barge is on its way, too! ;D
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: iFett on July 23, 2008, 06:08 PM
Now let's just hope a Sail Barge is on its way, too! ;D

Mayyyyyybe this is a precursor to the Barge?  I'm hoping that sucker has plenty of screen time in the movie.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: JangoTat on July 23, 2008, 06:13 PM
Although the concept is cool, it looks really wierd considering there is nowhere to connect the skiff(atleast from what we can see) so that it is above the pit and not directly beside it. Not to mention all of those figures are a let down. But if I do get this it will be for the Skiff, I have always wanted that vehicle but just hated the $60+ price tag I have seen on them. I can see this being a target exclusive though.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: Reid on July 23, 2008, 06:19 PM
Wow, this came out of nowhere. Looks pretty nice.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: evenflow on July 23, 2008, 06:52 PM
 :o  :o  :o This is by far the coolest thing Hasbro has ever made. I have not been so excited so Yarna was finally officially announced.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: CHEWIE on July 23, 2008, 07:37 PM
Whatever happened to all the folks getting pissy about certain people inquiring with Hasbro about playsets over the past couple years?  These are the same folks who said that other sites were wasting questions by mentioning playsets?  That there was no way in hell that more playsets were coming as there is not a market for them, because Hasbro said so.  (http://www.emoticonking.com/emoticons/laughing/007-[Laughing]-[EmoticonKing.com].gif)

Anyways, good to see; regardless if it comes with repacks.  Could mean better and bigger things are around the corner.

Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: Rob on July 23, 2008, 09:56 PM
Anyways, good to see; regardless if it comes with repacks.  Could mean better and bigger things are around the corner.

Holy ****, this thing is some pretty serious vindication for you there.

Between the Lars Homestead stuff and this... congrats.

Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: Diddly on July 23, 2008, 10:09 PM
The figures ruin an otherwise fine playset. Either use better versions or don't include figures at all. Either way, congrats CHEWIE for finally getting what you want. :)
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: iFett on July 23, 2008, 10:39 PM
:o  :o  :o This is by far the coolest thing Hasbro has ever made. I have not been so excited so Yarna was finally officially announced.

I don't think this is that cool and I really don't see it as a "playset" so to speak, but it's a start as is the homestead.

Hasbro likes to lie to us which is unfortunate.   :-\      Hopefully we get some skeletons.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 23, 2008, 11:49 PM
The Scarlac is nice, but we have everything else. I donno if the Scarlac is worth $60.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 23, 2008, 11:52 PM
The Scarlac is nice, but we have everything else. I donno if the Scarlac is worth $60.

Agreed.
Some repaints or kit-bashed goons would have been nice to make this more appealing like the previous UBP's. I will buy it but I will be getting rid of the extras, they are not even good custom fodder.
Title: Re: Target Pit of Carkoon Ultimate BP
Post by: Jeff on July 23, 2008, 11:55 PM
So it's an Ultimate BP, eh?  Strange they are willing to talk about it already given the uber-denials last year.   :P

I only have one Skiff, and technically there were two at the Pit, so I will be fine buying this set for the Pit and a second Skiff to set up.  :)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 24, 2008, 12:58 AM
They may keep another one as a surprise.....I hope.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on July 24, 2008, 01:05 AM
That's pretty cool and looks actually very accurate...  I'll pick it up for sure, just for the pit...  Don't know what the figures will be as far as quality goes, but yeah, the rest of the stuff I'll just sell I think.

Love the creature though...  Not sure I'd call it a playset, per se, but sort of...  I guess?  It's kind of like the gun from Hoth in that it's neat, accurate, and I'll take one for sure.  This is much cooler than the dome, which I think I'm passing on unless there's one available for clearance at some point.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on July 24, 2008, 09:37 AM
I'm in the boat of being pretty excited for this.  I always sort of hoped we'd get a Sarlacc of some sort in the line, although I always figured it would just be cardboard or something.  Plus, the Skiff is one of the OT vehicles I'm still missing (saw it once, had to pass, never saw it again) - so that's a bonus for me.  Aside from the figures themselves, the pack is all new for me, so I look forward to grabbing it.  I wonder if there will still be two UBPs at Target this holiday season, and they are still saving one - or if the GI Joe one is taking the place of the second.  Either way, can't wait for this one.  Hopefully we'll see this trend continue of getting these larger "set pieces/playset pieces" in the UBPs - pretty cool.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: ruiner on July 24, 2008, 10:00 AM
  Not sure I'd call it a playset, per se, but sort of...  I guess? 

I wouldn't call it a playset either.  It's a rehashed vehicle from 1985 with a new accessory and a base - similar to the Dagobah X-Wing with swamp **** and dragon snake.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on July 24, 2008, 10:07 AM
I wonder if there will still be two UBPs at Target this holiday season, and they are still saving one - or if the GI Joe one is taking the place of the second. 

That is probably the case, how can Target have 3 sets of this size at once? It would be overkill as the same people buying the SW buys Joe to a large extent. There is only so much money to go around, this year is getting out of hand...FAST. If it was not for my side business there would be no way to keep up with all this great stuff. The Joe line keeps getting better.......as does SW.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: evenflow on July 24, 2008, 11:47 AM
:o  :o  :o This is by far the coolest thing Hasbro has ever made. I have not been so excited so Yarna was finally officially announced.

I don't think this is that cool and I really don't see it as a "playset" so to speak, but it's a start as is the homestead.


I have always wanted a Sarlaac so this is right up there for me.
Title: Re: Legacy Pit of Carkoon Playset?!?
Post by: CHEWIE on July 24, 2008, 11:55 AM
I wouldn't call it a playset either.  It's a rehashed vehicle from 1985 with a new accessory and a base - similar to the Dagobah X-Wing with swamp **** and dragon snake.

Call it whatever you want... it may not not a full blown playset but it's a step in the right direction and is quite a bit more than a few pieces of swamp ****. 


Anyways, good to see; regardless if it comes with repacks.  Could mean better and bigger things are around the corner.

Holy ****, this thing is some pretty serious vindication for you there.

Between the Lars Homestead stuff and this... congrats.


Yeah!  I think it's great that Hasbro is finally starting to produce some actual environments for figures.  I wish the sand bank area was a bit larger, but I'm not complaining by any means.  It's just awesome to be getting more environment/playset pieces.  Or whatever people want to call them.  This is the sort of thing that I've been personally clamoring for Hasbro to make for quite some time... environments that look like represenations from the films... I'm so happy about this, I just wish we didn't have to wait until November to pick it up!  I'll probably be annoying customer service desks at Target about this using the DPCI trick in October... hee hee


The figures ruin an otherwise fine playset. Either use better versions or don't include figures at all. Either way, congrats CHEWIE for finally getting what you want. :)

I agree, the figures really don't do much for me.  Just "extras" that will help absorb Hasbro's costs on tooling the Sarlacc I suppose.  I'll probably use the figures just for extra custom fodder or extra toys for the kiddo.  And thanks, this really is something that I've been hoping they'd make for quite some time.  I might end up trying to make a larger sand pit and use the actual creature in the middle of it.  There's a customizer called jedijep who made this... something I always thought would be way out of my league to attempt making... but with Hasbro now making the beak and tentacles, I might end up giving it a whirl.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/maxjoel957/IMG_2231.jpg)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JangoTat on July 24, 2008, 12:14 PM
I actually have mixed feeling on this set the more I look at it. The sarlaac looks cool. But I think it would have been better if it had posable tentacles. It also looks removable based on the gap between the sarlaac and the Dune. The skiff is cool but I have all those figures but the Luke. Being a Target exclusive my chances on this thing are slim but if I do get it im sure using a cardboard box drenching it in glue and dumping it in sand will help make the Skiff stand higher and look better. Ill wait till I see one in person for final judgment. I am happy hasbro is attempting to make playsets without action features though. Makes me wonder what this Alpha base that keeps popping up in rumor lists will look like.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on July 24, 2008, 12:21 PM
Can't really tell if the tentacles are poseable or not?

(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc08/Hasbro/multipacks/IMG_2823.JPG)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: ruiner on July 24, 2008, 02:09 PM

and is quite a bit more than a few pieces of swamp ****. 


You're right - about $15 more.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on July 24, 2008, 04:02 PM
that is one of the ugliest things i've ever seen. a giant hunk of tan plastic with a glory hole in the middle? no thanks.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jayson on July 24, 2008, 04:04 PM
that is one of the ugliest things i've ever seen. a giant hunk of tan plastic with a glory hole in the middle? no thanks.

Imagine the uses for this thing if the "Special Edition beak" wasn't included.  :D
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on July 24, 2008, 04:06 PM
A million fanboys will hump theirs before it's even out of the car.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Sprry75 on July 24, 2008, 05:09 PM
Can't really tell if the tentacles are poseable or not?

(http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc08/Hasbro/multipacks/IMG_2823.JPG)

The tentacles are pretty clearly just an upside down dianoga from the Wal-Mart trash compactor packs, and yeah, they're posable.

Still, this thing is shiiiit.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on July 24, 2008, 05:19 PM
I gotta admit, I dig it more if the tentacles are poseable. ;D  That's cool...  I gotta make a shelf for this damn thing now though.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on July 24, 2008, 05:49 PM
I gotta admit, I dig it more if the tentacles are poseable. ;D  That's cool...  I gotta make a shelf for this damn thing now though.

...to display the giant hunk of tan plastic.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on July 24, 2008, 06:53 PM
I gotta admit, I dig it more if the tentacles are poseable. ;D  That's cool...  I gotta make a shelf for this damn thing now though.

...to display the giant hunk of tan plastic.

What other way could Hasbro have made this, other than making it an even larger hunk of tan plastic?  Hmmm?
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on July 24, 2008, 07:19 PM
I gotta admit, I dig it more if the tentacles are poseable. ;D  That's cool...  I gotta make a shelf for this damn thing now though.

...to display the giant hunk of tan plastic.

Yeah, more or less...   :-\  I actually will probably expand on it at some point though, to make it a little larger somehow...  Not sure how, but somehow.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on July 24, 2008, 08:41 PM
What other way could Hasbro have made this, other than making it an even larger hunk of tan plastic?  Hmmm?

since, presumably, toys are for children first, they could have made just the sarlacc, and you could stick it in real sand. as many children do.  as it is, it's really ugly. seriously, take your finger, cover up the monster itself, and what do you see? a giant hunk of warped tan plastic. not for me.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darby on July 24, 2008, 09:06 PM
Didn't Hasbro at one point say they wouldn't do a hole in the ground?  I remember that from a Q&A somewhere.  Anyways, this isn't my scene, but kudos to them for taking a shot at playsets.  I would much prefer myself something Hoth or Death Star (next year?) but it's certainly a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on July 24, 2008, 09:46 PM
Didn't Hasbro at one point say they wouldn't do a hole in the ground?

They even frowned upon it, but I have no idea where the original question was adressed - I just know it was asked.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Ben on July 25, 2008, 02:40 AM
Not something I'm too interested in, but judging by the UBP performance last Christmas, Target will sell these with or without my purchase.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jayson on July 25, 2008, 06:50 AM
Didn't Hasbro at one point say they wouldn't do a hole in the ground?

They even frowned upon it, but I have no idea where the original question was adressed - I just know it was asked.


I think this is it....
Quote
We understand your current stance on playsets, but if you go back to making beasts, would you consider a Sarlacc pit? It's got a big gross mouth, tentacles, and the special editions have added a large beak (which, should you make this figure, we'd hope could be a removable aspect), yet this is one Star Wars creature that's always gotten the short end of the merchandising stick despite being a major part of ROTJ. It could be done as a beast pack, maybe an ultimate battle pack, or even part of a boxed set with a Tatooine Skiff. (AF, 12/21/07)

Wow….multiple questions on the Sarlacc this week! All we have to say is that the challenge of making and marketing basically a hole in the ground with teeth is a pretty stiff one indeed. It is a beast, but doesn't look like one. Kids won't get it. How would you display it? Not to get any hopes up, because it is a cool idea, but the challenges might be impossible to solve.

Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Sprry75 on July 25, 2008, 08:23 AM
that is one of the ugliest things i've ever seen. a giant hunk of tan plastic with a glory hole in the middle? no thanks.

Imagine the uses for this thing if the "Special Edition beak" wasn't included.  :D

I can only think of one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina_dentata), so I don't mind the beak.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on July 25, 2008, 09:52 AM
Its funny that yet again Hasbro seems to have "lied" about not wanting to make something.  It sure has been happening a lot lately, they say something won't happen or stay quiet about it (or flat out deny when pictures have been leaked), and then a few weeks later - ta da.  I'm really starting to think, unless things like this UBP, the Falcon, and the AT-TE massively tank at retail, that we're going to see some sort of Death Star playset/environment within the next couple years.  It all depends on how things sell though I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Phrubruh on July 25, 2008, 10:17 AM
I wonder if the skiff has somekind clear stand included so it can hover above the pit. The way it works now, if you put the skiff next to the pit, the pit is actually higher then the floor of the skiff.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: roron corobb on July 25, 2008, 11:54 PM
This set doesn't do anything for me. I would be interested in the sarlacc if anyone wants the other stuff. It will save me on work to build one for myself.
roron corobb
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on September 9, 2008, 12:09 PM
I noticed in this week's Q and A (this one was at The Jawa) that Hasbro confirmed that the beak will be removable on this upcoming Battle Pack, so you can have the Special Edition or non-Special Edition version of the Sarlacc.  Good news!
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: David on September 9, 2008, 06:40 PM
That is definitely good news. Thank you for getting this right, Hasbro. :)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jayson on September 9, 2008, 06:56 PM
I noticed in this week's Q and A (this one was at The Jawa) that Hasbro confirmed that the beak will be removable on this upcoming Battle Pack, so you can have the Special Edition or non-Special Edition version of the Sarlacc.  Good news!

A "friend" was wondering if the pit itself will be hard plastic or rubbery. (http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/adult/motion.gif)

:P

Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 10, 2008, 09:17 AM
Valid question now that the Lars set has been released.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jeff on October 16, 2008, 04:13 PM
Battle at the Sarlaac Pit (http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-1/qid=1224187862/ref=gp_se_search-results-asin-redirect/602-0193133-5412667?ie=UTF8&asin=B001F0L55I) @ Target.com

DPCI = 087-06-2070 (same as the CW Christophsis UBP)

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ALCLfmwjL._SS384_.jpg)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on October 16, 2008, 04:42 PM
Looks kind of nifty to me.  I know not everyone is super excited for this, but I'm really looking forward to it.  The Skiff is one of the last OT ships I have to pick up, and the Sarlacc Pit is something I always hoped we would see made.  Hopefully the quality of plastic is a bit better than we've heard about the Lars Homestead - but it does look pretty good so far.  I wonder if this means they will be available online as well.  That's a good option if anyone has troubles finding them locally.  I didn't have much trouble with last year's packs (although Hoth sold quickly), but with this new "set piece" you never know.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: evenflow on October 16, 2008, 05:33 PM
Thanks for posting the DPCI...I will be checking every week
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 16, 2008, 05:40 PM
And if you look in the background Chewie will finally get his sailbarge!   ;)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 17, 2008, 01:16 AM
This is not going to be an easy decision.  I have the Skiff (and all the figures), so the price is going to seem high for just the Sarlaac.  But I really want it for my Jabba display.  Arrgh.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 17, 2008, 01:50 AM
There was more than one skiff in that scene.   :D
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on October 17, 2008, 02:04 AM
That was my thought, if people wanted to justify two...  Speaking of, Brian if you want a skiff hit me up.  I can get you a second one so your scene is accurate. :P

I'm looking forward to this for the monster, but not the skiff...  So the price hurts.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 17, 2008, 09:21 AM
The figures will go in the trade pile. It'll be nice to have a second skiff though.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Adam_Pawlus on October 17, 2008, 04:57 PM
A "friend" was wondering if the pit itself will be hard plastic or rubbery. (http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/adult/motion.gif)

:P



From the picture, it looks like neither.  Seeing how the light shines off it, it seems like another vac-formed piece similar to the Lars Homestead set.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jayson on October 17, 2008, 05:14 PM
A "friend" was wondering if the pit itself will be hard plastic or rubbery. (http://img2.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/adult/motion.gif)

From the picture, it looks like neither.  Seeing how the light shines off it, it seems like another vac-formed piece similar to the Lars Homestead set.

I suspected that the ground/sand would be like the Lars Homestead, I was wondering about about the pit/sarlacc.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 17, 2008, 05:44 PM
There was more than one skiff in that scene.   :D

Good point.  OK now I justify the set.  ;)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 18, 2008, 03:15 PM
Ok what happened to the n >:(ew Jabba?  >:(
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jeff on October 19, 2008, 09:06 PM
I was at Target today, so I punched in the DPCI to check...  $62.99! :o
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: David on October 19, 2008, 09:22 PM
Holy ******* ****!

That's completely insane. I was really looking forward to this set so I could finally have a skiff. As much as I want one, I just can't justify $62.99 for it. So this looks like a pass. :-\
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Nicklab on October 19, 2008, 10:02 PM
I was at Target today, so I punched in the DPCI to check...  $62.99! :o

So how does that break down?

5 x figures @ $7 each = $35 (albeit they're all reissues)
IIRC, the skiff cost $24.99 originally and included one figure
Plus the Sarlacc pit base

It doesn't break down terribly from that standpoint.  But the pack-in figures are weak for the most part.  The Han and Lando are okay.  But the Luke is out of date.  The Boba Fett is inferior compared to the Evolutions Fett.  And the Weequay is downright antiquated.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Daigo-Bah on October 19, 2008, 11:50 PM
Clearly Hasbro didn't get the memo that the nation is in a recession right now  ::). 
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on October 20, 2008, 01:10 AM
As much as I want it, the price may actually be a deterrent for me...  I'll have to determine at the time I see it I guess, but the more I think about it, the less I'm caring right now.  I have lots to buy every holiday, so for myself I am gonna be pretty thrifty this year, with collecting and all.

I've really gotten to a point where I've cut back...  Hasbro/Retail aren't getting  a fraction of what I once would spend in a year, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: evenflow on October 20, 2008, 08:13 AM
I have always wanted a sarlaac so i am buying this anyway but the price is very high.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 20, 2008, 09:10 AM
I never usually intend to wait for target clearance, but in both of these UPB cases, I just might.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: jedipurge on October 20, 2008, 12:18 PM
recession = less people buying at full price which in turn = to Target clearancing these pretty quickly when they see 'em sittin around to long.
I've always wanted the skiff, and the Salacc looks pretty damn cool, but I'll definately hold off this till clearance and if I don't get it then oh well not too big of a deal.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: ruiner on October 20, 2008, 12:39 PM
I was at Target today, so I punched in the DPCI to check...  $62.99! :o

Last year's sets were pretty good values for the price - this year, not so much.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on October 20, 2008, 12:46 PM
Yikes, a little higher than expected.  I really want the Sarlacc set, so barring not having the budget for it or something, I hope to pick it up.  I wasn't really all that interested in the Clone Wars pack to begin with, but I'll most definitely pass on it now.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 20, 2008, 02:53 PM
I wonder if they will have a special sale at $49.99 on Black Friday as a Traffic Driver then raise them up to $62.99 afterwards....Who the hell comes up with $62.99 as a price point? I do not get this new oddball pricing structure. $59.99 or $64.99 pick one! (Maybe it's a Gen X thing.)

This really is a shame last years pack were great because the repacks were sweet for the most part. I am buying no matter what but I will only purchase the Sarlacc. I will pass on the CW.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on October 20, 2008, 03:21 PM
Yeah the Hoth set last year enticed me due to the Snowtroopers, the turret, etc.  Hell I'd buy more of the turret if Hasbro sold them in a $20 vehicle assortment 2-pack or something.  Hell a 1-pack if it had a couple figures with it...  I love that piece since it's perfect scale and detailed.

The Sarlacc's cool, and I want a Sarlacc, but $63 is getting beyond what I consider a "deal", especially because I have no need for the skiff, nor the figures.

Had Hasbro kitbashed some aliens together, even if they weren't in the movie technically, I'd have been more interested in this.  If Han had articulated legs, that'd be nice and entice me a bit.  Same with Lando if they'd cobbled together some poseable legs...  But basically you get a vehicle you don't want if you already have it, and figures most of us surely have, and no army builders.

The Sarlacc is worth $63?  Eh...  No.  And that's the way I'm leaning now with this.  The Clone Wars Pack is far better IMO considering it's almost all army builders/repaints that people coudl use more of if they're into the animated stuff.  The Sarlacc's new and cool...  Wish I could buy just it.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on October 20, 2008, 03:33 PM
Yep, it's overpriced. 

But I'm passing on all the repacks, and am an advocate for any sort of decent looking playsets, so I'll get one at full price... a second if I see it on clearance.

Passing on the CW set.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: DoctorPadawan on October 20, 2008, 06:25 PM
I long ago decided that I was going to pass on this set completely, as not even last year's 50 dollar price point would have made me feel less than cheated.  One question/concern, however:  can anyone confirm the quality of the "base" portion of the Sarlaac?  I only ask because of the Halloween mask-quality base on the Lars Homestead set, and I'm worried that this may wind up being the same situation.

Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JediJman on October 20, 2008, 08:42 PM
I don't think anyone has one yet, so that's a judegment call at this point.  Check out the pick on page 4 if that helps...
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on October 20, 2008, 08:51 PM
I'm gonna go on a limb, based on images, and say it's a cheap base...  I say this only because that kind of vacu-formed styrene has a distinct look to it, and this base seems to have that look...  I could be wrong, but I'm not thinking I am.  :-\
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: knashdx on October 21, 2008, 01:51 PM
I will be picking this set up. Simply because I have always wanted a Sarlac, and the sceen would be really easy to recreate with the figures there and the few others that I have sitting in a box.


Now the question is, do I need a $125 Falcon more than this set? I can only display one due to size. Which one is more important to me.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: jedipurge on October 21, 2008, 04:25 PM
I will be picking this set up. Simply because I have always wanted a Sarlac, and the sceen would be really easy to recreate with the figures there and the few others that I have sitting in a box.


Now the question is, do I need a $125 Falcon more than this set? I can only display one due to size. Which one is more important to me.

FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON! FALCON!
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 21, 2008, 04:59 PM
I agree with JP.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: evenflow on October 21, 2008, 08:48 PM
I say Sarlaac but i am not a vehicle guy.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JediJman on October 21, 2008, 11:17 PM
I say Sarlaac but i am not a vehicle guy.

I'm in the same boat, and I'm going with the Falcon.  ;)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JDH1173 on November 15, 2008, 10:51 AM
Saw a spot cleared out and the shelf label set up for the UBP's while at Target the other day....
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 16, 2008, 09:55 AM
Someone on 'Scum found one already. They have a picture and everything.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 24, 2008, 11:00 AM
Well, I opened mine last night.

The Sarlacc pit comes in three pieces.

The first piece is the maw of the creature. The "beak" from the Special Edition does come out, so if you are so inclined to not display it with the "beak", you're in luck. The "mouth" is made of a rubbery plastic and the tentacles are "bendy" (soft plastic around a wire frame)

The next piece is a hard-plastic mound. The mound is sand colored and basically goes around the entire "mouth" piece. At this point, the Sarlacc is doing pretty good. You could theoretically display it like this if you wanted, in fact, in 20-30 years, these two pieces will probably be all that remain.

The final piece is the big rectangle of sand and it's made of (surprise!) the same cheap flimsy plastic that was the base of the Lars Homestead. In fact, I'd almost go as far as to say that it's even flimsier than the Lars Homestead base. So yeah, Hasbro really cheaped out on this last piece.

The Skiff is the Skiff and the figures, with the exception of the Han and the Lando, all stink. So if you're buying it for the Sarlacc, just be aware that 1/3 of the thing is cheap plastic.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: ruiner on November 24, 2008, 11:18 AM
Sounds like a $63 bargain!
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on November 24, 2008, 01:02 PM
Or a $69.99 bargain, as Jayson reported at Yak this morning that one of his local buddies picked one up, but the price was higher at that store. 

Thanks for the review Pete_Fett... I guess the price on this set doesn't bother me so much as the lack of value we're getting... the Skiff is cool and all as a repack, and isn't exactly cheap to find, so that's great for those that don't have one (or two).  And the sarlacc monster seems good too, but that's where it ends for me.

Sounds like the base is a true disappointment, and I'm not surprised at all.  I guess I'll have to try and make my own "sand area", which I really don't want to have to do.  Does the Skiff stand on it easily, or does it tend to tip over?

The figures... Hasbro continues to screw us over... why not a reworked Nikto or Weequay?  Or a repack of a cool alien like Pote Snikin?

I'll still get it, but yeesh!  This one is gonna be painful.  At least I'm passing on the Clone Wars set.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JediJman on November 24, 2008, 01:07 PM
That's actually two confirmed stores within 5 miles of each other that are pricing this at $70.  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jayson on November 24, 2008, 01:44 PM
That's actually two confirmed stores within 5 miles of each other that are pricing this at $70.  Ridiculous.

Make that 3 Justin. I just visited another Target and it was $69.99 there as well. This must have been an overnight change in their system because that store had them entered (via DPCI check) at $62.99 yesterday.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: ruiner on November 24, 2008, 01:52 PM
Wow, that's a 40% price increase over last year!
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2008, 02:01 PM
"Well our costs have all increased and this and that...  and so you're ****** over, sorry!"  :)

This review (thanks Pete) coupled with these ****** prices are enough for me to pass.

People, if you want/need a 2nd Skiff just PM me.  I have two here and I'd gladly part with at least one of them.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 24, 2008, 02:23 PM
Sounds like the base is a true disappointment, and I'm not surprised at all.  I guess I'll have to try and make my own "sand area", which I really don't want to have to do.  Does the Skiff stand on it easily, or does it tend to tip over?

I could not get my Skiff to stand on the area easily at all. I might have just been tired and impatient, but I tried several times without any luck.

This could have easily been fixed by them just putting three notches in the cheap plastic shell where the three landing-gear/legs could have slid into.

I'm going to try again tonight 'cause I was looking at it in the display case this morning and I'm totally not happy with how the set looks.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 24, 2008, 02:27 PM
Oh, I just wanted to add, that I guess I'm "lucky" - the UBPs came up as $62.99. I know at some other stores in my area, the price scanner reads $72.99 - that price stinks!
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: evenflow on November 24, 2008, 07:26 PM
I just got my Sarlaac today  ;D. Passed on the other set. it was 62.99.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2008, 11:04 PM
$70?!

These things were stupidly expensive at $50, no way in hell am I buying it for $70.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jeff on November 24, 2008, 11:49 PM
I've been looking forward to the Sarlaac set but at $70, I'm thinking of taking a pass. :-\ 

Hopefully I can find one for $63 on one of the days that I'm using one of my 10% rewards coupons.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: ruiner on November 25, 2008, 04:21 AM
$40 is the most I would pay for this.  Twenty for the skiff, ten for the pit, and ten for the figs.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on November 25, 2008, 04:39 AM
I've been looking forward to the Sarlaac set but at $70, I'm thinking of taking a pass. :-\ 

Hopefully I can find one for $63 on one of the days that I'm using one of my 10% rewards coupons.

I'm kind of in the same boat.  I've really been looking forward to getting the Sarlacc, and I'm one who missed the previous chance at the Skiff, so it was looking like a good set to me.  But, $63 was already pushing it to me, and $70 is even more so.  I may end up bending once I see it in person, or maybe it'll just go on the "Christmas list", but I'm hoping to be able to pick it up.  It may be the last larger purchase I'm able to make for awhile, but Hasbro/Target/retail is really starting it push it with these prices.  Everyone has less expendable money these days it seems, and making things cost even more isn't exactly going to drive sales.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 25, 2008, 09:46 AM
Ouch. I might just wait for clearance now.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on November 25, 2008, 10:22 AM
Held this set in my hands this morning and put it back on the shelf.  Too expensive, don't need another skiff, crappy figures, base is way too shiny and the "hole" isn't as deep as I thought it should have been to gobble up Jabba's goons.

Pass, but I will pick up if I'm lucky enough to find it on clearance.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Pete_Fett on November 25, 2008, 12:10 PM
Pass, but I will pick up if I'm lucky enough to find it on clearance.

The fact that last year the two UBPs didn't stick around long enough to end up on clearance is what drove me to buy the two of each of the 2009 UBPs when I had the chance.

I will probably regret it in a month when the Sarlacc pit set is still hanging around and it's on clearance for $30, but if that happens, I'll still be well within the 90 days of my original receipt and I'll just pick up the clearance one and return it with my receipt from last Sunday.

I doubt the Clone Wars set will be hanging around long enough for clearance. The two vehicles and six figures really help push that one over the edge IMHO.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on November 25, 2008, 12:46 PM
For the first time in a while, I'm starting to have second thoughts about this set.  The price is just ridiculous (I really thought this should be $50.00 like the sets from last year), the pack-ins suck and it seems they really cheaped out on the plastic base.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: jedipurge on November 25, 2008, 10:11 AM
For the first time in a while, I'm starting to have second thoughts about this set.  The price is just ridiculous (I really thought this should be $50.00 like the sets from last year), the pack-ins suck and it seems they really cheaped out on the plastic base.

Chewie I never had a first thought on this thing even for $62.  I'll grab it if they discount this thing, but really there is just no way I'm buying at full.  If these were the VOTC Fett, TAC Luke, Lando w/artic. legs, VTSC Han, and that one fat alien can't remember his name that drove the other Skiff I'd probably buy for full price then.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: DoctorPadawan on November 27, 2008, 09:45 AM
Last year's UBPs were a real deal to be sure, as when you figured up the cost of all the individual items, they came out to being well above what Target and Hasbro were charging, even going by the prices at that time.  If you look at the sets this year, it comes nowhere close to being a bargain by those standards.

-Skiff:  $22.00 (if it were released individually, they'd sell it under the starfighter assortment)
-Battle Pack five pack: $22.00 (since they were released as such, they'd be priced as such)

That's 44 bucks, which would mean they're charging 26 bucks (at the 70 dollar price) for the Sarlacc and Halloween mask base, which is rigoddamndiculous.  The Christophsis set is a better value using those pricing standards, but still isn't as much of a value as last year's sets:

-AT-AP:  $22.00
-AAT:  $22.00
-6 figures x $7.00:  $42.00
Grand total of $86.00

Last year's sets had a good mix of truly exclusive items in them as well, which this year doesn't really have.  Hoth had the Tower, some decent repaints and kitbashes (Blue coat Han, repaint Derlin, SS Luke, "new" AT-ST Driver), and Endor had the same albeit in lesser numbers (Battle Damaged Biker Scouts, two Ewok repaints, "new" AT-ST Driver), as well as the logs.  This year, the repaints are minimal and, in the case of the Carkoon set, actually worse than their last issue, and the "exclusive" items are an oft-requested creature in a shoddy base, and a repaint of a currently available 22 dollar vehicle.  Not very appealing to collectors due to that, and even less appealing to mom and dad doing Christmas shopping due to the lack of value in buying everything together.  Plus, given Hasbro's obsession with twist ties and rubber bands, half of the figures come out with warped legs or hands anyway.

I should say that, despite my hemming and hawing, I did buy the Christophsis set (at 63 bucks), but there is no way in hell I'm buying the Carkoon set unless it goes to serious clearance prices (like, less than 20 bucks, which is unlikely I know).  Hasbro putting out so much stuff in general with the economy in the state it's in is a sore spot with me anyway, but to put out two "value" box sets and take away all of the value inherent in last year's sets is asinine and uncalled for.  These deserve to go to the clearance aisle and Target and Hasbro deserve to lose money on them.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 27, 2008, 09:53 AM
Thanks for working out the math on these Doc. Yeah, last year we got much better deals and much more useful items and figures. In the end, if I missed out on both of these, I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth Broem on November 27, 2008, 03:40 PM
Wow!  $70.00 eh?  Yeah, forget it Hasbro.  Nice try and all but in the end that is an idiotic price. 
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on November 27, 2008, 06:27 PM
These deserve to go to the clearance aisle and Target and Hasbro deserve to lose money on them.

Yup.  We're getting raped on these sets this go around which is such a shame compared to last year.  I have no doubt that Target will continue these UBPs every year into 2018.

Expect more disappointment in the years to come or just don't buy them.  This year's $62.99 will surely be next year's $69.99 - I think some Targets flubbed on that price. 

Show Hasbro you truly do care.   ::)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JediJman on November 28, 2008, 01:39 PM
Show Hasbro you truly do care.   ::)

I couldn't agree more with this.  The more I hear about the Carkoon pack, the more I want one, but I have decided without a doubt that I am not getting this thing unless it's on clearance.  If it sells well at regular price (even if you have a discount or coupon), Target's just going to keep launching these at ridiculous prices.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Rob on November 28, 2008, 07:40 PM
I finally saw one of these in person today... and I left it on the shelf. 

And I left pretty annoyed... after 15 years of bending over for any stupid old thing, I'm finally drawing the line somewhere.

The only way I'll own this set is if I find one on clearance or for a lot less at a toy show.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2008, 09:09 PM
I've not even made an attempt to look for it.  At the price they want, f it...  Hasbro and Target can both eat a bag of dicks.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on November 29, 2008, 05:33 PM
Hasbro and Target can both eat a bag of dicks.

Beautifully said  :) 
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 30, 2008, 12:17 AM
Odd how they priced this BP so high.  I know some people thought (and still think) the BMF Falcon was over priced, but I think it's worth every penny.  I don't think I'd pay whast they're asking for this BP in a million years though!
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 1, 2008, 09:12 AM
I couldn't agree more about the price. Realistically, these should cost about the same as last year and if inflation must be taken into account, the price is way too much. I think it's just Hasbro and or target getting greedy.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on December 1, 2008, 09:47 AM
We were out at Target yesterday doing a little Christmas shopping and didn't see these on the shelves yet.  They still had the Joe packs out, but that was about it.  I don't know if they were supposed to hit shelves this week or not.  I'm really on the fence with the Carkoon pack, I really want the Skiff and the Sarlacc, and I guess the figures are fine, but if it is $70 (or even $63) it really seems steep.  We'll see.  Although the Christophsis pack seems like a nice one overall, I'll be passing on that one.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on December 1, 2008, 01:07 PM
The price on this is a kick in the nuts for sure.  I'm still glad that I have it now though, as the Sarlacc itself is great and the smaller base is nice too (it's underneath the flimsy plastic one in the packaging).
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jeff on December 1, 2008, 11:48 PM
I picked up this set over the past weekend.  I had a 10% off coupon, so the set was only $61 with tax.  I'm fairly certain I can sell the 5 figures for $3 each (the neighborhood kids just love our summer garage sales), which means I'll end up paying about $22 for the Skiff (about retail) and $24 for the Sarlaac.  For those prices, the set isn't horrible

Yes, I agree that it sucks that you are "forced" to buy 5 figures that you already have to get the good stuff in this set, but that is life I suppose.  Not the greatest deal we've seen, but it's not as bad as some "deals" we've seen (I'm looking at you, $18 ShopStarWars figures  >:().

So, what do I think of my $24 Sarlaac Pit?  I like it.   :-X

Yes, the top layer of the sand pit is made with the cheapie plastic (like the Lars Homestead set), but the rest of the pit is really nice.  The inner base of the pit is a rigid, quality plastic and the Sarlaac itself is very detailed and poseable.  I think it was cool that Hasbro decided to try something like this, so the "buying a Sarlaac is cool" half of my brain beat out the "dude, this costs way too much" half.

Yes, in the end it's probably over-priced, but as one of the handful of people left out there who actually enjoy collecting this line, I am happy with my purchase...  after all, it's not like I was going to be spending that money on any new Indy stuff instead.   :P
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 2, 2008, 09:31 AM
Finally saw one in person, didn't pick it up yet. Anyone have comparison shots yet of this skiff and the last skiff? The new one appears to be darker to my eyes.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on December 2, 2008, 11:03 AM
I picked up this set over the past weekend.  I had a 10% off coupon, so the set was only $61 with tax.  I'm fairly certain I can sell the 5 figures for $3 each (the neighborhood kids just love our summer garage sales), which means I'll end up paying about $22 for the Skiff (about retail) and $24 for the Sarlaac.  For those prices, the set isn't horrible

Yes, I agree that it sucks that you are "forced" to buy 5 figures that you already have to get the good stuff in this set, but that is life I suppose.  Not the greatest deal we've seen, but it's not as bad as some "deals" we've seen (I'm looking at you, $18 ShopStarWars figures  >:().

So, what do I think of my $24 Sarlaac Pit?  I like it.   :-X

Yes, the top layer of the sand pit is made with the cheapie plastic (like the Lars Homestead set), but the rest of the pit is really nice.  The inner base of the pit is a rigid, quality plastic and the Sarlaac itself is very detailed and poseable.  I think it was cool that Hasbro decided to try something like this, so the "buying a Sarlaac is cool" half of my brain beat out the "dude, this costs way too much" half.

Yes, in the end it's probably over-priced, but as one of the handful of people left out there who actually enjoy collecting this line, I am happy with my purchase...  after all, it's not like I was going to be spending that money on any new Indy stuff instead.   :P

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Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 3, 2008, 09:06 AM
Certainly haven't seen these in the numbers of last year UBP's. In fact, out of four stores, I've only seen one of this one.  :P
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: jedipurge on December 3, 2008, 01:19 PM
Certainly haven't seen these in the numbers of last year UBP's. In fact, out of four stores, I've only seen one of this one.  :P

So are you buying Anton?  I haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure if you like it enough to buy I probably will too.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 4, 2008, 09:19 AM
Yeah, I'll pick 'em up.  :-X

I think this pack will be useful though. I can display both skiffs and not have to move some of the figures from another display to fill 'em up.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Ryan on December 4, 2008, 06:06 PM
I ended up picking this set up yesterday. I had initially passed but I decided really wanted the pit itself.

Like most everyone else I'm fairly mixed on the set. I really love the pit itself, and the small sand base that it has. The skiff (though small and out of scale) is nice to have since I didn't have one. If Hasbro ever updates it this one can always work as a smaller model.

The figures on the other hand are god awful. I think the Albino/Ghost Luke should be a candidate for worst repack of all time. Take a look at Jayson's comparison picture (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/TLC/battlepacks/sarlacc.html):

(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TLC/battlepacks/sarlacc/lf78.jpg)

Lando looks like he is Hispanic. His skin is a good five-six shades lighter than it should be. I'm not sure why the chest armor is such a light grey and the pants are white either. I guess he will kind of work as a random skiff guard.

Han is all right I suppose. I'm not a huge fan of that headsculpt or the lack of articulation. The rubber bands on mine were so tight around his legs that they are squeezed together so tight that he can't stand up. A boil'n'freeze will fix it but I've noticed this seems to be happening to a lot of figures lately.

The 300th Fett needs to be retired... both the VOTC and Evolutions versions are much better. And The VOTC mold should have been free.

And why the hell hasn't Hasbro retired that damned weequay sculpt yet? It is about 11 years old now. There is no reason to keep releasing it. This figure is horribly outdated. At least they painted him a different color. His vibroaxe looks a like a limp, wet noodle. I'm really getting sick of the plastic Hasbro is using for weapons these days. ::)

I'm almost convince that the large sand "base" is really just part of the packaging and not part of the actual display. It seems odd that they would include two bases that are of such different quality and material. Not to mention that this one isn't even a part of the picture on the back of the box. If the big one were supposed to be a part of the set it seems like it should have been the same material as the small sand base, and there would have been no reason to include the small one. I saved it for now because I might still use it at some point. I think I'd probably repaint it, and might add real sand too.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on December 4, 2008, 08:55 PM
Couldn't agree with your review more Ryan.

Yeah that larger base seems to be just for packaging purposes, at least in my opinion.

Like you, I wanted to pass on this thing but I wanted the Sarlacc so badly that I was willing to fork over the money for it.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 5, 2008, 09:16 AM
Wow, I didn't think they could really make already produced figures any cheeper. Another big negative about the price for this set.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 5, 2008, 09:38 AM
Wow, I didn't think they could really make already produced figures any cheaper. Another big negative about the price for this set.

They really look like Hong Kong bootleg figures. I am shocked at how bad they really were, they mus have used that Indian Jones factory again. In the next Q&A we should rip Hasbro a new one for this. ****** figures choices, sub par manufacturing on them and a much higher price than last year UBP. While the Sarlacc is cool  and the only saving grace it does not stay attached to the plastic sand base very well. The engineering was a bit lazy. The connection points could have been a "L" shapes (like on a fire alarm) to fit in the Sarlacc more securely with a twist.

Thumbs down overall on this set. I am not seeing it around at all so I am glad I picked it up. If this goes on clearance I will buy it and return it with my original receipt.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on December 8, 2008, 10:52 AM
Used the DCPI trick to get one of these from the back of our local Target (they only have the Joe sets out, and actually brought me one of those the first time).  It got wrapped up right away as a Christmas gift from the Mrs., but I'm happy to add it to the collection.  The Skiff and Sarlacc is what sold me, as the figures do look pretty craptastic - as has been mentioned here.  Oh, and it was at the $62.99 price, so it hadn't gone up - yet.  Still, $50 would have felt better for this set.  It seems like we're starting to get less for more.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2008, 12:01 PM
I'd like the Sarlacc...  It gets pretty good marks.  I'm thinking because I've got a bit of extra casht his holiday I may treat myself to this if I see it, but I don't think I'm going to go DPCI'ing it to get it.  I'm still disappointed, and I know if I buy it I'm going to have buyer's remorse for all the junk in it I don't want. :(

Would anyone want the figs and skiff?
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on December 8, 2008, 12:24 PM
Would anyone want the figs and skiff?

For free? - j/k
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2008, 12:27 PM
Eh, if I get many more skiffs I may have to. :P  Actually if you just need a skiff iFett, email me...  I've got my Target ones just collecting dust and I'm not fond of them.  If someone bought the skiff for a fair price from the UBP though, I'd consider tossing the figures in for free with it just to get SOMETHING back on the price of the set at this point.  I just want the damn Sarlacc. :(
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on December 8, 2008, 12:53 PM
I was only joking Jesse.  I'm still on the fence on this set as well - even though it would stay imprisoned in its packaging.  I just still can't see $62.99 in that box.   :-\
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 8, 2008, 03:48 PM
I went to three Targets this weekend and both UBP's are no where to be found. Just curious how it appears to be selling in other areas. Also it seems there was a mad rush on AT-TE's as several stores seem to have low stock.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Ryan on December 8, 2008, 05:42 PM
One of the local Targets here got close to seeling out of both the other day and they quickly restocked and filled the shelves. The CW UBP seems to bee selling fast around here, though with two Army building vehichles and a handful of troops it's not hard to see why. The Sarlacc isn't really something people are going to but more than one of (short of the people who but two of everything.) I hope the set does well, but from what we've been seeing in this thread the old skiff and the **** figures seem to be holding a lot of people back, and rightfully so.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 8, 2008, 05:54 PM
One of the local Targets here got close to seeling out of both the other day and they quickly restocked and filled the shelves. The CW UBP seems to bee selling fast around here, though with two Army building vehichles and a handful of troops it's not hard to see why. The Sarlacc isn't really something people are going to but more than one of (short of the people who but two of everything.) I hope the set does well, but from what we've been seeing in this thread the old skiff and the **** figures seem to be holding a lot of people back, and rightfully so.

Old skiff and suck arse figures aside, it's the PRICE that is killing most of us.

If we break it down, the price should reflect something like this:
Old Skiff-$15
4 OLD figures-$3 each (and that's being liberal)-total of $12
Complete base (beak and removeable toothy area, plus Vag looking base)-$10
Grand total $37.

Honestly, that is in the price range of what most would tolerate. Make it an even $40 and I'd think there would still be people biting.

Having this as an exclusive for $63 on up to $70....No way, no how, no Carkoon!

And I'm really disappointed with that as I, like Jesse, really only want this for the base. However, I would eat the cost on the skiff and figs if the price was right.

Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: ruiner on December 9, 2008, 12:47 PM
My take on this:

Skiff = $20
Sarlaac pit = $15
Four poorly painted figs = $16

That's what, $51?

Seems more in line with what they did last year (though nothing will beat last year's sets IMO).

 
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2008, 01:02 PM
I'd still buy Hoth Turrets for $20 a pop if it included a redeco figure or some boxes or something.  Nothing flashy to it, but it's probably one of my favorite larger items I have in my collection.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 9, 2008, 05:45 PM
My take on this:

Skiff = $20
Sarlaac pit = $15
Four poorly painted figs = $16

That's what, $51?

Seems more in line with what they did last year (though nothing will beat last year's sets IMO).

 

Seems Target kept it in line with their current price structure:
Skiff (BV)= $21
Sarlaac pit (BV)= $21
Five poorly painted figs (BP) = $21
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: EpicGon on December 22, 2008, 07:20 PM
For a while it looks that the Sarlacc pit should be a bit bigger to eat the henchmen  :) the skiff has a nice paint job, but the action figures lack  a good painting. Always when HASBRO repacks, some details are supressed if they add a new one. For example Lando shows 2 brown bracelets but his shoulder armor looks very fade, nearly the same color of his shirt. If Hasbro is saving money in the cards of each separate action figure is unnecesary to omit painting details. This is why some characters never get a complete update (in paint job).

I agree that this BP is overpriced.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on December 24, 2008, 02:00 PM
I caved and bought this on clearance today for $54.99 (087-06-2070)  Still overpriced IMO, but I'm going to hold onto my receipt in hopes of finding another at 50%-75% off - just in case there's stock left after Target's clearance.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Rob on December 27, 2008, 12:10 AM
I had some gift cards so I decided to use them towards this thing.  I'd love to find one on clearance to cut into the price, but at least it only cost me $30 out of pocket. 

Like a few others have mentioned, I was pleasantly surprised with what a nice job they did on the pit itself. 

Of those crappy figures, the Weequay, Han, Lando, and Luke seem to be pretty different (in terms of paint) than the older releases, but Fett looks identical to one that I already have on my shelf (not sure which one it is at this point).  Does anyone know if there's anything I'm missing when I compare the two Fett's?  I'm now keeping goofy paint variations, so most of these are staying, but if the Fett is the same I won't need it.

Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 27, 2008, 11:06 AM
I caved and bought this on clearance today for $54.99 (087-06-2070) 

Not clearance - it's a price cut.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 27, 2008, 03:03 PM
I saw this thing last week and it was an easy pass.  What really bothered me about this pack was the crappy weapons.  What cheap ass plastic is Hasbro using for weapons these days?

The base with the sarlacc is cool and I wouldn't mind another skiff, but for what they're asking?  No thanks.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Rob on December 27, 2008, 06:48 PM
I caved and bought this on clearance today for $54.99 (087-06-2070) 

Not clearance - it's a price cut.

In that case Target owes me $8.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on December 29, 2008, 09:07 AM
My wife got me one of these for Christmas, and I'm pretty happy to have it in the collection.  I haven't gotten a chance to open it yet (need to find room), but the pit and skiff look pretty coo.  The figures...not so much.  As a side note, it was at the $63 pricepoint when she picked it up (a few weeks ago), and its now price cut to $54 at our store too.  Can we take our receipt in to get the difference?  I thought I've read of people doing that before, but we've never done it ourselves.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Phrubruh on December 29, 2008, 09:27 AM
I saw a few of these at Target for $54 over the weekend. Personally, I think the GI Joe bp is much better. 2 large vehicles, 1 small and seven figures for the same price.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jeff on December 29, 2008, 09:57 AM
Can we take our receipt in to get the difference?  I thought I've read of people doing that before, but we've never done it ourselves.

They should give you the difference without much hassel IF the reciept is less then 2 weeks old.  If the purchase was made more then 2 weeks ago, you won't be able to get a price adjustment without buying a new one at the $55 price and then returning it with the old $63 reciept.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 29, 2008, 10:09 AM
Personally, I think the GI Joe bp is much better. 2 large vehicles, 1 small and seven figures for the same price.

No doubt. But then again, Hasbro owns the license for Gi-Joe.  :P
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on December 29, 2008, 01:42 PM
The Joe set is a much better deal it seems, yet it's everywhere in my area while all the Sarlacc Pits are gone... lol.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on December 29, 2008, 03:28 PM
The Joe set is a much better deal it seems, yet it's everywhere in my area while all the Sarlacc Pits are gone... lol.

Same thing in my neck of the woods (as are all the Joe jets) - but I haven't seen the CW BP since the second or third week of its release.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 30, 2008, 10:02 AM
Yeah, I've seen much more of the Joe packs myself. I wonder if there were different production runs.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Captain Piet on December 30, 2008, 11:55 AM
Yeah, I've seen much more of the Joe packs myself. I wonder if there were different production runs.

Had to have been. I never saw a Sarlacc or Christophsis pack in a store without requesting them. Target terribly mishandled them, never even supporting them with an ad, so I don't see the point. Wouldn't be surprised if these are the last two Ultimate Battle packs we see,m especially given how well the GI Joe ones have gone over.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on December 30, 2008, 11:57 AM
I see that this set, as well as the Clone Wars one, are now available on Target.com, for the $62.99 pricepoint.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: jedipurge on December 30, 2008, 12:21 PM
wierd thing is I never saw either one of the SW UBP's not even the side of the box, or shelf tag for that matter, it has almost been like they never existed  :o
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on December 30, 2008, 12:43 PM
I think part of the reason the Joe set also is collecting dust compared to Star Wars is there were two different SW sets, but just one Joe set.  So maybe they have the same run in a sense, but there could be twice as many Joe sets as Sarlacc Pits, and twice as many Joe sets as Clone Wars sets.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on December 30, 2008, 02:03 PM
From what I saw in my area, stores had about 4 total SW sets, and they've got at least 8 Joe sets out on the shelves now...  So by my estimation the Joe set was definitely more abundant.  The SW sets also didn't get put out at some stores at all...  I think some still have them in the back actually.  Those that did put them out up on the top shelf.  Very weird this year.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Rob on December 30, 2008, 03:58 PM
I found one of these marked down to $44 and change today.  I shamelessly bought it and returned it with my $62.99 receipt. 

I'm much happier with this price.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 31, 2008, 09:44 AM
I'm feel lucky I found the two I found at the price cut price of $55. I don't think I'll ever see these on clearance.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: CHEWIE on December 31, 2008, 11:16 AM
From what I saw in my area, stores had about 4 total SW sets, and they've got at least 8 Joe sets out on the shelves now...  So by my estimation the Joe set was definitely more abundant.  The SW sets also didn't get put out at some stores at all...  I think some still have them in the back actually.  Those that did put them out up on the top shelf.  Very weird this year.

How they handled all of this at Target was weird in my area too.  There wasn't a consistent merchandising approach that I could see - some stores put a bunch of SW sets on an end cap, others mixed Joe stuff with it, others threw it all up on risers, etc.  The lack of a "plan" to move these was very un-Target-like from what I saw.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Theta 288 on December 31, 2008, 11:23 AM
Hmmm  I saw just one & the price was in the 50's... inspecting the pit... hmmm

Dont  know what to say.... The sand surface looks like a thin Halloween plastic mask... very cheap in my opinion.

I dont know why  people are paying so much cash for & what make it worth buying... for the little ship & the creature?...think so.

Personaly, I like how Han & Lando looks like apart that there is not great articulations in both... the rest are crap molds including my fav Boba & Skywalker looks like a freagging Zombie Kookoo! (0_0)

But if I see one under $30 ... I get it.  



In my Targets the shelves are clean & some leftover are unorganized in he lowers platform, so I guess soo there will come a truck with the new shipment of Toys...  strangely I saw a buch of Rogue pilot evolution set in one area, I wonder if sooner it will be on clearance & all the leftover there or put back in place.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: DoctorPadawan on December 31, 2008, 12:17 PM
My local Target got one of each set (I bought the Christophsis set and someone else got the Sarlacc set), and NEVER got any more.  Tons of the GI Joe set, but not a single restock on the SW UBPs.  Come to think of it, Target didn't get more than one shipment of the Obi-Wan/212th and Yoda/CG five packs, either, but they still have a stockpile of the Transformers exclusives.

Something strange is afoot at the Circle K Big Red Circle.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Rob on December 31, 2008, 12:19 PM
The sand surface looks like a thin Halloween plastic mask... very cheap in my opinion.

There is a much nicer plastic dune like piece underneath the big cheap one in the packaging.  That's why a lot of people (myself included) posted that they were surprised with how nice the thing actually was.

To make it bigger, they sort of hid the product in the packaging and probably cost themselves some sales in the process.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jayson on December 31, 2008, 12:20 PM
Hmmm  I saw just one & the price was in the 50's... inspecting the pit... hmmm

Dont  know what to say.... The sand surface looks like a thin Halloween plastic mask... very cheap in my opinion.

I dont know why  people are paying so much cash for & what make it worth buying... for the little ship & the creature?...think so.


The sand surface you're talking about is actually just window dressing for those MIB collectors and the consensus is that it isn't actually part of the playset/environment per se.  The sarlacc is housed in its own sand base (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/TLC/battlepacks/sarlacc.html) which is obscured by the cheap "halloween mask" base.

--- or what Rob said  :P
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Theta 288 on December 31, 2008, 01:41 PM
The sand surface looks like a thin Halloween plastic mask... very cheap in my opinion.

There is a much nicer plastic dune like piece underneath the big cheap one in the packaging.  That's why a lot of people (myself included) posted that they were surprised with how nice the thing actually was.

To make it bigger, they sort of hid the product in the packaging and probably cost themselves some sales in the process.
Hmmm  I saw just one & the price was in the 50's... inspecting the pit... hmmm

Dont  know what to say.... The sand surface looks like a thin Halloween plastic mask... very cheap in my opinion.

I dont know why  people are paying so much cash for & what make it worth buying... for the little ship & the creature?...think so.


The sand surface you're talking about is actually just window dressing for those MIB collectors and the consensus is that it isn't actually part of the playset/environment per se.  The sarlacc is housed in its own sand base (http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/TLC/battlepacks/sarlacc.html) which is obscured by the cheap "halloween mask" base.

--- or what Rob said  :P


Ooooh!...Thanks guys, I was wondering about that, if its just a coverup... then its worth Buying... crap... i should get one!  ;D
buth there's other army building lots that impeded me to buy one of these big sets... I hate to be between the walls  ;D

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Kinda small dough but Better without that plastic sand lol---> http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/html/TLC/battlepacks/sarlacc.html 

(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/TLC/battlepacks/sarlacc/cf7.jpg)
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Theta 288 on January 1, 2009, 02:30 AM
The Sarlacc is useful for the EU, I was reading Republic # 59...I was very pleased to see the Sarlacc again  ;D...Now I have to find that Tusken Jedi lol.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 3, 2009, 11:14 AM
I popped this open finally. I like the set. Not great, but it serves it's purpose. I already have it on display with the POTF2 Skiff.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2009, 04:32 PM
This and the CW set both just got put out this week at my local Target with more in the stockroom (or so sayeth the computer).

I couldn't make this up...  They JUST got put out.  Friggin' sad.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on January 11, 2009, 12:01 PM
Ya I'm not understanding Target's approach on these offereings.  Only one or two on the floor at any given time if that - with some Targets not even stocking them, yet there's dozens of Joe BP's on the floor?...and no cleaance yet   ???  Definately a change in their tune.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: David on January 11, 2009, 12:22 PM
The Christophsis UBPs sold out a long time ago here, but the Sarlacc UBPs have been sitting on two different endcaps at $54.99 for at least three weeks, and they aren't moving. It's gonna take a much bigger discount to get these moving I think, at least that's what it'll take for me to buy one.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JediJman on January 11, 2009, 02:12 PM
The Christophsis UBPs sold out a long time ago here, but the Sarlacc UBPs have been sitting on two different endcaps at $54.99 for at least three weeks, and they aren't moving. It's gonna take a much bigger discount to get these moving I think, at least that's what it'll take for me to buy one.

I'm actually seeing the Sarlacc more now than I did before Christmas.  I think I'll finally break and buy either or both if they get down to $30ish.  Otherwise I think I can survive without them. 
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 12, 2009, 09:24 AM
Both of these seem to have been freshly stocked at my Targets. Since the Joe UBP is hitting clearance and these have allocated reset space, it might be a while before thee hit clearance.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on February 3, 2009, 12:02 PM
I was just listening to the Star Wars Action News podcast's Hasbro Q and A (about the 19 minute mark), and one of their questions was about the complaints of the UBPs for 2008 (including the TRU Lars pack) and if the compaints would influence any future releases.  Hasbro mentioned costing out the sets has become difficult, and that although the Christophsis pack was "wildly successful", they wouldn't be continuing this line in 2009 and beyond due to costing issues.  It may just be Hasbro speak, since they're often quite sneaky with the Target holiday exclusives, but it could be the end of UBPs at retail.  I don't know about nationwide, but I didn't seem to have much trouble finding any of the three (Sarlacc, CW, or Lars Homestead) although I only picked up the Sarlacc one personally.  I think one of our local Targets may still have one or two of theirs out, and I know that TRU has some Lars Homesteads.

I suppose it could be possible that Hasbro has seen that big vehicles (at least in the $100 range) do just as well as these packs during the holidays, and maybe that's the route we'll see from now on.  Anyways, just wanted to pass it along.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on February 3, 2009, 12:28 PM
It may just be Hasbro speak, since they're often quite sneaky with the Target holiday exclusives, but it could be the end of UBPs at retail. 

I don't buy it.  The AT-ST sets sold insanely well for 07 and for some reason Target is handling the Sarlacc and CW pack a bit differently now, I still think they're selling through even at the inflated prices.  Though I'm not getting why all of the Joe UBPs got clearanced out already.  Perhaps they were just referring to the environmental pieces?
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Rob on February 3, 2009, 01:04 PM
Only one of my local Targets has Carkoon sets left.  They're marked $54.99 and are worked right into the regular shelf, no clearance.  Although, they were clearanced out at the other stores...  ???
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Theta 288 on February 3, 2009, 01:59 PM
still at $54....

I got a good deal for the Sarlacc.   
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jeff on February 3, 2009, 02:16 PM
Although, they were clearanced out at the other stores...  ???

If they were clearanced at some stores, it was at the manager's discretion.  The UBPs are still active DPCIs according to corporate and are most likely not headed to chain wide Clearance until the next reset.  According to the last draft plan-o-gram I saw, the Jabba Rancor was going to end up in the shelf space that the UBPs are taking up now...
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Nicklab on February 3, 2009, 04:56 PM
I've been amazed to see some of these are still in stores.  And that's as recently as yesterday.  But when you think about the price, the pack-in figures and the poor paint jobs, I can totally understand why they're lingering.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2009, 05:52 PM
although the Christophsis pack was "wildly successful", they wouldn't be continuing this line in 2009 and beyond due to costing issues. 

I'm not shocked.  These got put out just in the last month or less here in Pittsburgh, seriously, and they're just collecting dust all around.  They were lame for the price...  I want a Lars dome, I want a Sarlacc, but I won't blow $50 for either of them.  I'd rather do without than feel the shame on those purchases.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: JediJman on February 3, 2009, 10:35 PM
I'm not surprised to see them sitting around, but I am surprised that they're not on clearance yet.  Its like someone figured out that the UBPs were clearanced too low, too fast last year, so now they're over correcting.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 4, 2009, 09:18 AM
If this past year was the new standard for UBP's, I wouldn't miss them. However, I thought the 07 sets were awesome and would like to see that type of thing yearly.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: knashdx on February 4, 2009, 09:55 AM
If this past year was the new standard for UBP's, I wouldn't miss them. However, I thought the 07 sets were awesome and would like to see that type of thing yearly.

I agree with that!!!
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on April 4, 2009, 05:36 PM
After only having one Sarlacc UBP in the regular aisle for quite some time now, our local Target today all of a sudden had an entire endcap full of both the Clone Wars and Sarlacc packs, clearanced at 30% off.  Of course, our receipt is too old now for the Sarlacc one I got for Christmas - but I might keep an eye on them if they drop really low and grab the CW one or something.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on April 4, 2009, 08:21 PM
I'm sure many Targets still have a ton of both battle packs in their storage area.  Looks like they were just trying to make a few more bucks off these sets as they didn't sell as well as the 07 sets.  I've yet to see any clearanced - or let alone an entire endcap, but I'm sure it's coming.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Nicklab on April 4, 2009, 09:00 PM
It seems to be very likely that there might be a number of Ultimate battle packs lying around.  Typically there were only 2 on the shelves at a given time, except for when they were initially stocked on and endcap during the holidays.

But the great question we're faced with is this:  is Hasbro going to learn their lesson and not give us shoddy repacks for the Ultimate battle packs in the future?
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 5, 2009, 12:19 AM
More likely they will not do anymore.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 5, 2009, 11:26 AM

But the great question we're faced with is this:  is Hasbro going to learn their lesson and not give us shoddy repacks for the Ultimate battle packs in the future?

I hope so. I'd wager that the first sets were popular because they both had a nice mix of troops and accessories. The Scarlac in particular sat because, let's face it, unless you didn't have the figures and the skiff, it was kind of a boring set and a lot of money just for the cheep Scarlac. Hopefully Hasbro is filing that under useful note.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Rob on April 5, 2009, 12:13 PM
I hope so. I'd wager that the first sets were popular because they both had a nice mix of troops and accessories. The Scarlac in particular sat because, let's face it, unless you didn't have the figures and the skiff, it was kind of a boring set and a lot of money just for the cheep Scarlac. Hopefully Hasbro is filing that under useful note.

Same exact deal with the tatooine set.  The hut was great, but who wants to pay $50 + tax for it?
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on April 6, 2009, 02:13 AM
I'm hoping to land a Sarlacc for 30% off.  I'll sell the skiff/figures off to recoup some of the cost and eat wahtever the rest of the Sarlacc's price is.  I really can't justify $55 for that POS set though.  Same with the Tatooine set...  Hell, more so.  That hut is a 2-piece chunk of plastic, and a few figures that aren't worth spit.  $50+?  **** it, I'll do without...  Some stuff I just have to say no to and put my foot down.  i'm thinking I may pass on Wedge/Borssk too...  Love the comics, but Wedge as a figure sucks, and Borssk isn't far behind in sucking (I don't care for that look for the Bothans and prefer the Zahn Trilogy look they had).  I figure I may nab Borssk alone for cheap at some point down the road.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on April 6, 2009, 09:46 AM
I thought in one of the Q and A's in the past months, Hasbro had mentioned that they "wouldn't be revisiting the format" when referring to these UBPs - mainly because of the poor sales of the Sarlacc and Lars Homestead sets (I think they said the Clone Wars set sold quite well - although there are still several here).  I suppose higher priced vehicles will take their place if that is the case, but there probably was more potential with these UBPs if they kept the price closer to $50 and focused on making them a "value" like they used to be.  Those Hoth/Endor packs the year before were really a nice value, and there are other options similar to that out there.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on April 10, 2009, 08:07 PM
I see in the Q and A at RS this week, they ask about the current UBP format (using environment pieces) and Hasbro sounds like they'll be staying away from the environment-based packs (like Lars and Sarlacc) - and that the vehicle based packs are more successful for them.  I'm guessing the Hoth and Endor packs from 2007 performed much better than the current batch (which we can see), so maybe we'll see a return to something like that this year again.  I wouldn't mind that if they held the value that those previous sets had.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 11, 2009, 11:22 AM
What would people think if Hasbro did the environmental sets right, with good, sturdy plastic, more bells and whistles, no figures and then charged about the same price? But then again, that would be a play-set, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on April 15, 2009, 06:50 PM
It looks like, at least here locally, that the clearance price was indicative of where these things should have been priced originally.  Last week, our local Target had an endcap of UBPs (8 Sarlaccs, 2 Christophsis) on clearance for $38ish.  Today, there were just two Sarlacc packs remaining (still at $38).  Now, these packs (particularly the Sarlacc and Lars Homestead ones) were still weaker than the previous years' Endor/Hoth packs, but I think if these were originally priced at $40 (or even $45) they might have sold a little better.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2009, 12:38 AM
They're selling out here for $38 as well...  Which is good.  It's at least a sign that they were overpriced to the retailer and the manufacturer.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 16, 2009, 10:12 AM
These UBP's sold out pretty quickly here once they hit clearance.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Brian on April 27, 2009, 11:55 AM
After working on some collection re-arranging/packing up over the weekend, I finally got around to opening this pack up.  I have to say, the Sarlacc is pretty cool - and nicely made.  Also, I'm happy to finally add a skiff to the collection, since I missed the earlier version.  Although it has been covered here before, I have to agree that the figures in this pack are absolutely horrible.  Aside from the fact that (prior to price cuts/clearances) the prices were incredibly high on these, they could at least give us quality figures within the pack itself.  Luke, Lando, and the Weequay are painted horribly, and they could have included the VOTC Fett as well.  The figures themselves are pretty much a complete waste, and it is too bad there wasn't at least a couple nice or kitbashed figures included instead.  Anyways, this is for another topic, but it does make me realize how we could actually use resculpts of the Lando Skiff figure (not to mention a carbonite Han).  Those figures (when painted decently) aren't terrible, but could stand a nice upgrade compared to what we see today.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: Jesse James on April 27, 2009, 07:05 PM
People at the local Toy Show this past weekend had this set for $80...  Not a joke there.  No punchline...  They seriously wanted $80 for them.
Title: Re: Target "Pit of Carkoon" Ultimate BP
Post by: iFett on April 27, 2009, 09:51 PM
People at the local Toy Show this past weekend had this set for $80...  Not a joke there.  No punchline...  They seriously wanted $80 for them.

I'm still hurting from the $54 version.  Found another on clearance at $28, but it was past the Target due date so no refund on the balance.  Oh is well   :-\