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Collectibles => Past Hasbro 3.75" Lines => The Legacy Collection => Topic started by: speedermike on September 18, 2008, 10:17 PM
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Just curious...it looks like the Indiana Jones line is dead, and the wave Hasbro showed at Comic-Con will never come out. Many of you don't collect IJ, but how would you feel if Hasbro packed 1 (2x) IJ figure in each case of Legacy? ( Simialr to what they do with Galactica in Titanium...)
Personally, I love the current IJ figures, and would be all over this idea.
Any thoughts?
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It's a brilliant idea which, naturally, means Hasbro would never go for it.
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It's a brilliant idea which, naturally, means Hasbro would never go for it.
Yeah, pretty much my thoughts exactly. :-\
I'd love to see Hasbro do whatever it takes to keep the Indy line alive in one way or another, even if it means just one or two figures in a wave of Star Wars stuff.
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I think its a great idea. ;D
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I like that idea as well, but as others have said, it probably won't happen. Plus, I'm sure there would be some who aren't interested in Indy at all that would complain. It would be nice if we could at least get that first 2009 wave (Raiders) in some form, either this way or via HTS (even at a bit higher price). I think Hasbro would be surprised how many collectors would want to pick these up. The Indy figs just weren't a big hit with kids (probably outside of an Indy fig here or there most likely), and its obviously a collector line even more so than something like Star Wars. I think if they made it available, it would sell pretty well either online or in these case packs. Just look how often (and how long) the Last Crusade wave has been sold out on HTS. Someone's buying those.
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I dunno. I'm not sure the line is dead. Sure, there are lots on the shelves, but it's mostly Mutt and I'm sure the plan was to not expect SW type sales.
That said, I think the idea of packing IJ figs in SW cases is kind of weird. Yet, intriguing.
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I like the idea of mixing Indy into SW, but that is probably because I'm an Indy collector and I'd like to see the line continue.
The problem for Indy would be all the non-Indy collectors out there. I would think that the majority of Star Wars collectors would probably just bitch about Indy stealing a slot from a Jabba alien / Cantina monster / background character.
I mean, think about how much people bitch about the occasional EU figure in a wave and then imagine those boo-birds being told they were going to start getting stuff that isn't even Star Wars in place of a new OT figure in a wave. People already bitch about there not being enough OT stuff, imagine how they will react to not getting Wioslea because we were getting White Suit Belloq instead. I think it's safe to say that it would probably piss off more people than it would excite.
And then there would be the on-line bitching that will occur when the Star Wars pegs are clogged with an Indy pegwarmer - how frustrating will it be for those non-Indy folks when they can't find new SW figures beacuse their local pegs are clogged with tons of White Suit Belloq? :P
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I think it's safe to say that it would probably piss off more people than it would excite.
I agree. I'm already teetering on dropping Star Wars figs after Legacy, but I'd go out in a heartbeat if Hasbro started mixing in other lines.
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I honestly think it's not a good idea. While you have the same design/marketing/production team working on both lines, they do have distinctly different collector bases. And the pegwarming of KOTCS figures shows me that the Indy line doesn't have the retail legs of Star Wars. Because for all of the revisionist complaining we've seen from fans over the prequel movies, the figures sold well. With Indy and the most recent movie being somewhat lackluster? I think the poor sentiment for the movie might have translated to the toy line.
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I don't think it has to do with KOTCS's performance. The movie did 316 million. Iron man made 318 and people only said amazing things about it. I just don't think kids get that into Indy. To me, it's a very different type of franchise than SW. But I want more!
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Yeah, kids really are not into Indy. His time was back in the 80's. It's just us old fogies going for this line for the most part. I am sure some kids bought Indy himself. They certainly have their pick of which Indy to get. There really was zilch in KOTCS for kids to get excited for other than Indy himself. They would have to actually like a 20-30 year old film. That's asking quite a bit really. Star Wars can do it but Indy would have a hard time.
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The kids might not be that into indy since the KOTCS was nothing great. If if was ROTLA quality, it might be a different story.
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The kids might not be that into indy since the KOTCS was nothing great. If if was ROTLA quality, it might be a different story.
I was wondering that myself actually. The quality issue might be true, but I'm wondering if this generation of kids just don't get into that "period piece" type of thing as much as we did as kids. Movies have changed a lot, with tons more releases in a week/month/year, as well as kids having a big fascination with animated or CG effects laden movies. I wonder how many kids were really interested in Indiana Jones, aside from having parents who were/are into it. That said, one of my nephews recently asked for (and received) the LEGO Indiana Jones game and was quite excited for it, but hasn't seen a minute of any of the movies and doesn't own any of the toys. Part of me even starts to wonder how familiar the kids of today are with the Original Trilogy, again unless their parents own/watch it. Sure, they know the constants like R2/3PO/Vader/Falcon, etc., but I think they're more familiar with Anakin, young Obi-Wan, and Padme than they are with Han/Luke/Leia. Who knows though, its tough to say. Back to the original discussion though, I do think that kid sales for the Indy line were really pretty limited, at least from my experience. I'm guessing an Indy and that's about it for most kids.
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And the pegwarming of KOTCS figures shows me that the Indy line doesn't have the retail legs of Star Wars.
Not sure this is a fair statement. Yarna is sitting her fat ass on the pegs everywhere I've been. Yet we all screamed and bitched for years to get it. It's a total crapshoot and people will bitch no matter what.
I think both Nick and Jeff make very valid points regarding complaints, but there really isn't much suprise in that is there? There will be complaints regardless and if Hasbro were to actually do these at 1x per case then the issues would be far less of a concern to Star Wars collectors. Sure, white suit Belloq is going to sit at 2x per case, but not one. Personally I'd rather have the opportunity to struggle and probably overpay for a short packed figure than to not get it at all. I think if it is done properly ( ::)) then it can work without too much aggravation. But it'll never happen.
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Yarna is sitting her fat ass on the pegs everywhere I've been. Yet we all screamed and bitched for years to get it. It's a total crapshoot and people will bitch no matter what.
Yep.
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Yarna is sitting her fat ass on the pegs....
There's a Huttsex joke there, but I ain't making int.
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I think that the "period piece" might be a reason kids don't get Indy. If they only wanted wild CGI, Speed Racer would have been the biggest film of the year, not Batman.
In an odd way, I think Indy is too sophisticated for kids. For instance, I teach High School in NYC and I was talking to some kids about KOTCS, and they hated it. But they had no idea what it was about! They had never heard of Area 51. They didn't know about the Cold War, they knew nothing of Inca/Mayan lore, and they didn't understand the Indy/Marion stuff.
In a way, Indy asks you to bring some knowledge of history and legends with you into the theater, while SW just asks you to bring your imagination.
Another point...I don't think that movie popularity and big toy sales go hand in hand. A few years back Hulk Hands were a huge seller, and the movie tanked. And I bet that SW made more money on toys in August that The Dark Knight makes all year.
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I think that the "period piece" might be a reason kids don't get Indy. If they only wanted wild CGI, Speed Racer would have been the biggest film of the year, not Batman.
In an odd way, I think Indy is too sophisticated for kids. For instance, I teach High School in NYC and I was talking to some kids about KOTCS, and they hated it. But they had no idea what it was about! They had never heard of Area 51. They didn't know about the Cold War, they knew nothing of Inca/Mayan lore, and they didn't understand the Indy/Marion stuff.
In a way, Indy asks you to bring some knowledge of history and legends with you into the theater, while SW just asks you to bring your imagination.
It all boils down to wether or not the story is well told or not. Humans have a natural instinct for crap.