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Title: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Jesse James on January 19, 2009, 03:03 PM
Looking at some of those new pics, it's clear we're getting a new video game Kyle Katarn.  Super articulated, and I'm guessing with his Jedi Knight gear for the most part (judging by the shoulder pad).  However, did anyone see the diagram of a trooper?

Looked like a Darktrooper to me...  Anyone else have an opinion on this?  Could it be a 2-pack, or part of an EU wave?

I'm giddy, as I really, really, really have wanted new versions of both since the originals.  Both originals were ok at the time, but man nice articulation and sculpting going on with that Kyle, and a new Darktrooper could just simply be amazing.

Way to go for whoever did the scanning.  I've enjoyed looking at this stuff all day now.

Kyle Katarn (not a Jedi Katarn either).
(http://i41.tinypic.com/34qtpiw.jpg)

Some kinda trooper (very Darktrooper-ish), listed as a "Purge Trooper", which isn't familiar to me.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/m83d7a.jpg)

EDIT:  The Trooper could also be an updated Heir to the Empire Trilogy Spacetrooper...  Just comparing it to the original, it really could be either I think. 
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 19, 2009, 08:33 PM
That Kyle looks cool.  As a fan of the Dark Forces games I'll get a few of those figures.

I think the trooper is an updated Space Trooper.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: CookieeMonster on January 19, 2009, 08:37 PM
I was apprehensive about the Kyle until I saw him, now I am bring on the dancing girls.

Cant wait for this figure, the Yuuzhan Vong and the Purge Trooper.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Jesse James on January 19, 2009, 08:53 PM
The more I've looked at it Matt, I agree, I think it's a Space Trooper from the Zahn Trilogy...  Compared to art and the original figure, plus I think Hasbro mentioned the Spacetrooper getting a resculpt(?), I really think that's what this figure is.  He'll not combine with Katarn then... 

Still, this Katarn's an enigma to me...  If this Katarn comes with the Yuzahn Vong, isn't he inaccurate then?  I though Katarn was dressed as a Jedi when fighting the Vong, and this is clearly a video game Kyle.  I don't believe he appeared in comic books in his video game atire ever...   I could be wrong so please if someone has scans I'd like to see them.

I'm giddy to get the new Katarn figure, I'm disappointed this appears to be a Spactrooper though.  I hate that design for Spacetroopers, as it's very illogical and just meant to look flashy.  The Darktrooper, being a droid, made more sense.  How a human has a gun embedded in his forearm is beyond me.

I'm wondering now, who will the Spacetrooper come with?  Katarn seems destined to come wit the Vong figure, but that's cool as it's a new video game Katarn it appears, and that's AOK by me.  I wanted that much, much more than the Jedi Knight (NJO) Katarn in robes and crap.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Theta 288 on January 20, 2009, 12:06 AM
Spacetrooper indeed, same anathomy with the ST from Expanded Universe

Thanks for brought that out.

I was looking at that figure today by chance, a guy had his collection at the mall for few weeks, only to find out today that he left.

If someone is willing to trade one of his Spacetrooper-Expanded Universe (http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2EUspacetrooper.asp) I have few figs tradeable, but if this new coming fig is more detailed, then I would wait, since I want company for my Darktrooper.  :)

I wondler if we are getting a stiff leg ST-Expanded Universe alike the last Comic Durge we had ?.... cus can't figure out what does mean "Insert Molded Knees" <---Stiff legs as the previous ST & Durge?

Well Compare the DArkees.

Phase 1 2 3

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/SW_phase1-2-3DarkTrooper.jpg)

Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 20, 2009, 12:18 AM
I see your point Jesse, but I always thought the Spacetrooper was more of an exoskeleton than any sort of droid (same with the Phase 3 Darktrooper), so although kinda dumb, there would be room for a blaster, or some sort of cutting torch in the forearm.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2009, 12:31 AM
It actually is a suit...  In both its incarnations even.  It's just a big bulky self-contained Stormtrooper for Zero-G.  Like the Stormies we see in ANH are kind of the light spacewalk guys, can go out there for a little while and do work and things.  Basic armor can sustain them for a little while for a rescue too, and then there's the big suit...  This armor was supposedly contained "men", same as the original EU spacetrooper armor which the WEG books created.  It's much larger/heavier, and more realistic looking.

It too has room for weapons contained in the arms, however it's huge by comparison, and makes more sense.  This, the weapons are in a forearm where a human's forearm should be.  I hate that design flaw in it, and really wish we got a figure of the WEG design.  To me it's the ultimate.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/b/b0/Zero-G_Assault_%27Spacetrooper%27_Mk._I_Schematics.jpg/487px-Zero-G_Assault_%27Spacetrooper%27_Mk._I_Schematics.jpg)

This is the WEG design, and it actually was based on the Zahn Work as well if I'm not mistaken, but just became a different ultimate incarnation.  The comic adaptation of the space trooper is what we got in a figure in 1998 and here I believe, and it's also a guy in a suit I'm pretty sure (I can't recall exactly from the novel but I think it was a guy in a suit), and I just loathe that forearm gun.

Anyway, yeah gimme that suit above there.  It reminds me of taht Cobra armor suit GI Joe had.  I loved that stuff. :)
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Theta 288 on January 20, 2009, 12:37 AM
Well I see is a diferent Helmet sculpt, the new has a respirator mask & the ST-EU doesn't match, but both has same body detail, but diferent backpack as well?

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus%202nd/ST-comparison.jpg)

Clone

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/5/51/CloneBlazeTrooper.JPG/637px-CloneBlazeTrooper.JPG)
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Nicklab on January 20, 2009, 01:17 AM
Kyle Katarn is actually supposed to be packed with the Yuuzhan Vong in a comic 2-pack.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Ryan on January 20, 2009, 01:34 AM
Count me in for Katarn for sure. I'm really glad to see him in his Dark Forces/Jedi Knight get-up rather than robes.



Some kinda trooper (very Darktrooper-ish), listed as a "Purge Trooper", which isn't familiar to me.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/m83d7a.jpg)

EDIT:  The Trooper could also be an updated Heir to the Empire Trilogy Spacetrooper...  Just comparing it to the original, it really could be either I think. 

This guy is somewhat of an enigma to me. It seems likely that it would be from Dark Forces or Heir to Empire but I also wonder if it could be the Force Unleashed incarnation? The design doesn't necessarily look like it did in the game, but they are called Purge Troopers in Force Unleashed. It is an interesting design for sure. Hopefully we'll hear more about this guy at Toy Fair, and Hasbro clarifies the source material
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Jayson on January 20, 2009, 06:03 AM
I wondler if we are getting a stiff leg ST-Expanded Universe alike the last Comic Durge we had ?.... cus can't figure out what does mean "Insert Molded Knees" <---Stiff legs as the previous ST & Durge?

Essentially it means "articulated".
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 20, 2009, 09:06 AM
The Trooper should turn out nice, might be worth a squad for me.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Corax on January 20, 2009, 10:46 AM
As Nicklab said Kyle Katarn comes with the Yuuzhan Vong in a comic pack.  They are based off their appearance in the Star Wars Tales story Equals and Opposites.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Theta 288 on January 20, 2009, 11:14 AM
I wondler if we are getting a stiff leg ST-Expanded Universe alike the last Comic Durge we had ?.... cus can't figure out what does mean "Insert Molded Knees" <---Stiff legs as the previous ST & Durge?

Essentially it means "articulated".

Thanks alot for your respond...well that makes it more appealing for some of us  :D & a squad would be beautiful....


This guy is somewhat of an enigma to me. It seems likely that it would be from Dark Forces or Heir to Empire but I also wonder if it could be the Force Unleashed incarnation? The design doesn't necessarily look like it did in the game, but they are called Purge Troopers in Force Unleashed. It is an interesting design for sure. Hopefully we'll hear more about this guy at Toy Fair, and Hasbro clarifies the source material

I dont have the game or guide...my bro had.

I recall seen the "Purge Troopers in Force Unleashed" at the guide in black, but can't remember much the features or helmet, a look again may solve the problem... but again I have seen other Dark/Space trooper variants in games etc... let me check the comic by chance.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2009, 11:53 AM
As Nicklab said Kyle Katarn comes with the Yuuzhan Vong in a comic pack.  They are based off their appearance in the Star Wars Tales story Equals and Opposites.

Hasbro had said we're getting a Katarn in a comic pack with the Vong soldier, but the problem is, I don't recall Katarn wearing his video game gear (ala this figure) in the comic book (as I noted earlier).  The Comic in SW Tales I thought had Katarn as a Jedi Knight in robes and things...  Wasn't he protecting refugees from the Vong in that storyline?
Or are there multiple NJO-era Katarn storylines that have him sporting his Infiltrator/video game duds?

Either way I'm quite happy to get a new Katarn figure that pretty accurately represents his video game look.  He's even young (no grey) looking which really supports his video game characters (the first 2 anyway) over the NJO look.  Pretty cool...  The Trooper I think is going to be the new Spacetrooper Hasbro had mentioned somewhere along the line.  Bummer as the Dark Trooper would be much cooler IMO, but whatever.  The Purge Trooper was hinted at on other boards but I think this is another Thrawn Trilogy comic pack figure on the way.  I wonder who it'll come with though?
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Theta 288 on January 20, 2009, 11:58 AM
Ok its not the TFU "Purge Trooper either" but is nice & hope they make it too ;D

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/PurgeTrooper.jpg)
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: evenflow on January 20, 2009, 12:21 PM
That figure looks awesome!
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2009, 12:32 PM
Purge Trooper looks like those robots from X-Men. :)
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Corax on January 20, 2009, 12:48 PM
As Nicklab said Kyle Katarn comes with the Yuuzhan Vong in a comic pack.  They are based off their appearance in the Star Wars Tales story Equals and Opposites.

Hasbro had said we're getting a Katarn in a comic pack with the Vong soldier, but the problem is, I don't recall Katarn wearing his video game gear (ala this figure) in the comic book (as I noted earlier).  The Comic in SW Tales I thought had Katarn as a Jedi Knight in robes and things...  Wasn't he protecting refugees from the Vong in that storyline?
Or are there multiple NJO-era Katarn storylines that have him sporting his Infiltrator/video game duds?

Either way I'm quite happy to get a new Katarn figure that pretty accurately represents his video game look.  He's even young (no grey) looking which really supports his video game characters (the first 2 anyway) over the NJO look.  Pretty cool...  The Trooper I think is going to be the new Spacetrooper Hasbro had mentioned somewhere along the line.  Bummer as the Dark Trooper would be much cooler IMO, but whatever.  The Purge Trooper was hinted at on other boards but I think this is another Thrawn Trilogy comic pack figure on the way.  I wonder who it'll come with though?


No this is the outfit he wore from the comic.  Technically this isn't his DFII Jedi Knight outfit, it's close but not quite right for that appearance.

You can see images of Kyle from the comic here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Katarnnjo.JPG

This image shows the outfit that this figure has: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Kyle.jpg

This is the best image of how Kyle looked in DF Jedi Knight: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Dfh3.jpg

and finally how he looked in Jedi Outcast: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:MediumStyle.JPG


As far as I know I don't think Kyle Katarn has ever worn traditional Jedi robes in any of his appearances.  I know his description in the LotF series matched how he looked in  Jedi Outcast.

Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Jesse James on January 20, 2009, 01:23 PM
Ah ok, I was thinking of a SW Tales (Equals and Opposites) when he's in a robe disguised, but he's wearing basically his same outfit you pictured there Corax, plus his coat he wore in Dark Forces actually (pretty neat).  This makes a pretty great figure for any era then, that's good.  I'm gonna make a jacketed custom now too for Dark Forces, maybe with a younger looking head as well. 

he is ripped, but really a guy like him should be pretty ripped, and even his live-action dude in Jedi Knight was a fair sized guy, so I dig the figure a lot.  It's pretty accurate.  Better than the Baron Fel that, I think, they made look hideous with the shoulder joints.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Greg on January 20, 2009, 01:57 PM
I'm thinking the trooper posted earlier is a Space Trooper. I believe Hasbro confirmed or hinted at an update in the Q&As, plus the blaster in the arm is something of a giveaway.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: EpicGon on January 20, 2009, 05:05 PM
Hope this will be a spacetrooper or a darktrooper. Itīs time for Hasbro to make dark troopers phase I and II. I want to collect them if they appear.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: jedipurge on January 23, 2009, 03:20 PM
I'm thinking the trooper posted earlier is a Space Trooper. I believe Hasbro confirmed or hinted at an update in the Q&As, plus the blaster in the arm is something of a giveaway.

I believe you're right on that one, I just hope it's not a comic pack and we have to buy a non-army builder guy just get the space trooper.  I want 10 but don't know what I'd do if he comes with a C'boath
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 24, 2009, 10:18 AM
I just hope it's not a comic pack and we have to buy a non-army builder guy just get the space trooper.  I want 10 but don't know what I'd do if he comes with a C'boath

Same here.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Theta 288 on January 24, 2009, 02:11 PM
Same here & dont give them ideas  :)

I know some of you guys are richer than I, but I painfully paid  $273 for 20 white Republic Commando's comic packs, thats not including Omega & Delta squad  :P

I missed alot of more cuz I didn't have money left for the rest on the pegs, next time I was there there were none. I wish it was a single pack back then.

If we get this (Spacetrooper) figure as a single for $6.94, it would be ideal, we can get "40  figures" for that amount I have paid for my Commandos.

Or more convenient, if they make a pack including two Space/Dark trooper,  as they did with the dumb battle droids, I would become Hasbro's whore  :)

Do or are we still have chance to cry before Hasbro & make a petition as how we would love to be this figure be packed or released? <---Ahem!..excuse my ignorance  :)

Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on January 26, 2009, 11:10 PM
Crap...well, I like Kyle Katarn, but the Yuzahn Vong are crappity crap. I'll be keeping the Katarn figure and trading away the standard and unimaginative alien enemy Yuzhan Vong.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Jesse James on January 26, 2009, 11:11 PM
Unloading an army builder won't be hard...  Even if it's a clear Star Trek ripoff army builder. :)
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Theta 288 on January 28, 2009, 09:03 AM
Lucky  :)
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: 77Skywalker on February 20, 2009, 12:18 AM
When will those figures be available? I'm really anxious about buying Kyle Katarn.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Nicklab on February 20, 2009, 08:27 PM
When will those figures be available? I'm really anxious about buying Kyle Katarn.

August (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/swexperience/toyfair2009/hasbro/presentation/pages/hasbro19.html).  For both Kyle Katarn in his 2-pack, and the Dark Trooper which is a BAF from the WalMart exclusive Droid Factory 2-packs.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: JediJman on February 20, 2009, 10:24 PM
Ok its not the TFU "Purge Trooper either" but is nice & hope they make it too ;D

That thing looks ridiculous.  Please HASBRO, do NOT make a Purge Trooper or anyhting else that looks like a big, dumb statue.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: MetalJedi on February 22, 2009, 07:48 AM
I haven't collected Star Wars in awhile but a new Kyle Katarn I may just purchase.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Theta 288 on February 22, 2009, 07:22 PM
Ok its not the TFU "Purge Trooper either" but is nice & hope they make it too ;D

That thing looks ridiculous.  Please HASBRO, do NOT make a Purge Trooper or anyhting else that looks like a big, dumb statue.

Indeed in the game it was not operational, but I think it still a cool figure, well I can select parts of it like the cool head, gun  & other parts, the torso is not that impresive, but come on!... its way better than a yar yar bin or  other warriors  ;)
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 22, 2009, 07:49 PM
I'm not knocking the Kyle Katarn figure at all, but he kind of reminds me of a well-articulated early POTF2 figure.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: EpicGon on February 22, 2009, 08:17 PM
After toy fair 2009 we have seen the darktrooper phase 2 will be a buildable droid from 6 packs
I only like the pack of evo Boba with droid, so I hope someday Hasbro release this Darktrooper in a single blister.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Theta 288 on February 22, 2009, 10:33 PM
Hope so too for tha single DT pack.

I see this Dark Trooper will become an expensive & rare figure at Ebay & for those to want to build an army or squad of it would be a pain in the behind.

I maight just get one if I'm lucky  ::)
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 23, 2009, 09:50 AM
I hope someday Hasbro release this Darktrooper in a single blister.

I'm sure lots of people will want to see this. Hopefully BAD's will make the legends line.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: CookieeMonster on February 24, 2009, 01:18 PM
I am hoping the BADs to make the Legends Line as well, because what we have been offered this year and last (in most respects) have been crap.
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: Jesse James on February 24, 2009, 02:05 PM
Wow, I really liked the BAD's...  They're all filler save for C-3PX, but I was pretty down for some filler droids.  :-\

I agree, I hope some BAD's are fair game for the Legends Line...  That sounds like a maybe good question for this next round.  ;)
Title: Re: Kyle Katarn &... A New DarkTrooper?
Post by: EpicGon on February 26, 2009, 07:14 PM
I hope to see BAD RA-7 black and silver in saga Legends too. Also the darktrooper phase 2