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Title: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Scott on August 28, 2010, 11:15 PM
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Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Scott on August 28, 2010, 11:19 PM
Going by movie timeline, Han Bespin should have been a few figures ago but I finished off the Imperials first and went back to pick up Han.

Vintage Han Bespin and Luke Bespin were the Luke and Han I played with...I played the hell out of both of them.  Looking at it now, the head is way too big on here and it seems like Kenner really struggled with Han's head through the whole line (although Endor Han is pretty good)

Not much to say about Modern Han other than I can't believe they have waited as long as they have to update him and how much of a dissapointment the 30AC Torture version turned out to be...hopefully 2011 will finally be the final nail in the coffin of a much requested figure
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: John C on August 29, 2010, 01:11 AM
This figure and the Hoth Luke are the ones I want to see redone the most of all.  I also played with Bespin Luke and Han more than other versions of both characters.  I actually had the Hoth and Bespin Han before I had ANH Han. 
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 29, 2010, 02:03 AM
The Vintage version was my definitive Han Solo.  I hope the do a better modern version soon.  I want to put him in the BMF Falcon cockpit along with the new Hoth Leia and SL Threepio since that's where he spent a majority of ESB.

Oddly enough, I never had the vintage version carded.  I got him with the Sears Bespin playset.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: darthmac on August 29, 2010, 11:21 AM
Yikes, that is the best modern Bespin Han?  Ugh.  Hopefully the new one in 2011 will meet expectations and this page can be updated!
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Master_Phruby on August 29, 2010, 11:39 AM

Oddly enough, I never had the vintage version carded.  I got him with the Sears Bespin playset.

That is where I got my version too.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on August 29, 2010, 11:54 AM
Yeah, we definitely need a new Bespin Han...but it's cool to remember that this is one of the first ball-jointed shoulder figures from the modern line (I think the commtech stormie was the first), and also had the elbow swivels. The correctly sized blaster with working holster was really cool as well. I remember being completely happy with this figure when it came out. While Bespin Han is probably my most-wanted resculpt, I do remember this one fondly.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Scott on August 29, 2010, 12:26 PM
Oh I agree Ed, this one is great for what it was and is...but it isn't up to par with the rest of the line.  The EpI/POTJ lines for the most part was steps in the right direction and then the Saga crap came out and it all went wayward for like 3 years.  Likeness of headsculpt is the #1 criteria for a good figure to me and in that sense, while POTJ Han looks like Ford, it isn't really close.  More articulation and a separate belt/holster ala the latest Luke Bespin is much needed.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Captain Piet on August 29, 2010, 12:45 PM
One of my absolute favorites as a kid. Still trying to track a decently painted one down.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Scockery on August 29, 2010, 12:45 PM
Why did Kenner give Han a Bespin blaster instead of his own model?

Also, looking back, Kenner was cheap on the paint ops. No paint on belt or boots.

We froze him back in the day...put him a plastic cup of water...in the freezer.

I never got the POTJ version. I have the POTF2 version with the nearly black jacket (another color debate!), "poured into his pants" look and the same head as the POTF2 ANH Han (freaking lazy Hasbro...in a way, the POTF2 designs were also like comic book/cartoon in the sense of character renderings.)
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Ben on August 29, 2010, 01:18 PM
Never had the Bespin Han as a kid. I had the Endor Han, so I guess I didn't feel I needed another one. The POTJ figure is still one of my favorite figures in the entire line. It'll be hard for Hasbro to top that one, and I foresee them making several attempts before they get it right, ala Jedi Luke.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Glitch on August 29, 2010, 02:37 PM


The fact that we have to go that far back to find a "modern" counterpart to the original is just painful. 

 :'(


Anyway, I too received mine as part of the Sears Bespin set.  Wow, I remember how much of a thrill it was to receive the new Christmas catalogs and see new figures that were included in the exclusive sets for the first time.  Aside from the backs of the cards and the small catalogs that came with the vehicles, carrying cases, 12" figures and playsets, this was how we found out about new figures and toys back then.

I also remember how cool it was to find new mini Kenner catalogs in a toy.  I would sometimes stop dead in my tracks from opening the toy to see what was coming next.  I almost jumped out of my skin when I saw that we would be getting a Millennium Falcon!

Good times!

:)

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Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Brian on August 29, 2010, 04:11 PM
My favorite version of Han Solo, although the ANH outfit is obviously more "iconic".  I never had the vintage one as a kid either, although I always wanted one (and it was the first one I picked out at my friend's house - who had everything).  I also had the Endor Han, so I don't think my parents saw the need for me to have another - and I also got more into actual Star Wars figure buying with ROTJ (I was 6 at that time).

As far as the figure goes, this is my #1 most wanted modern re-do, and it sounds like (hopefully) we'll see it finally in 2011.  I hope they get it right the first time, and we don't see the constant tinkering and re-dos that Jedi Luke has.  As others have mentioned, the POTJ Han is a great figure for its time - and actually still one of my favorites.  I really enjoyed that line as a whole, and thought the Han was great then and in some ways now.  It does need a more modern updating, and I look forward to the new figure, but not bad for what it is.  It is silly that we haven't gotten another version since then, aside from that Torture Rack version (yikes).
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Scockery on August 29, 2010, 06:02 PM
I often forget there's a another version they released, the Princess Leia collection two-pack one with the cloth jacket.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Darby on August 29, 2010, 06:53 PM
One of my favorite vintage figures.  I got him at Montgomery Wards in what had to have been my biggest vintage toy run - my brother and I had about $20 for delivering phone books one year.  We had bought a few already at K Mart that day, and found Han at Wards.  My mother lost it over me buying another toy, but I had to have him.   ;D

I still like the POTJ version a lot.  It obviously has room for improvement, but he's still proudly a centerpiece of my Bespin shelf.  I'm glad an updated version is coming next year, and it's one of the pieces I'm looking forward most to.  I'm hopeful it doesn't rely on the current Han body they've been using with that ridiculous torso.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: drumzguy73 on August 29, 2010, 10:06 PM
I remember my dog ate my Vintage Bespin Han's right arm. So I had a one-armed Bespin Han for a while until I convinced mom and dad to get me a new one.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Diddly on August 30, 2010, 01:27 AM
The Bespin outfits were always my favorites as a kid too. I didn't have Vintage, but POTF2 growing up. Part of the reason the Bespin Luke/Han figs were my favorites was because I never had "proper" ANH versions of those characters (I had the Han that came with Jabba, which was pale and couldn't hold a blaster, and the Falcon Gunner Luke).

Never owned the POTJ Bespin Han either, since I took a break between TPM and AOTC but it's a fine figure. I wanted to pick one up when they rereleased it into Saga Legends last year but at this point why bother? It wouldn't match the other "ultimate" figures I have on display anyway.

30AC Torture Rack Han is good for display, but he suffers from Hasbro reusing the skinny legs that only match up with the VOTC Han. Like every Han released after 2004, the upper body is way too big, and the legs too skinny. The torture rack was the only reason to get that one.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Jesse James on August 30, 2010, 02:39 AM
Even as a kid, I had to have what I thought of as the definitive incarnation of a figure, and to me Bespin Han Solo was the best Han Solo money could buy till Endor Han came out.  I loved my Bespin Han and he played double duty as Cantina Han and others (I hated the original Han, either head size).

So Bespin Han will always have a special place in my collection. 

For modern..  oofah there isn't much to pick from there.

Well, actually, there's a LOT to pick from, but nothing decent.

POTJ Bespin Han's still chilling out up on the Bespin shelf though since he really doesn't have much of a choice.  At the time I liked Bespin Han though, and thought it was a huge upgrade in the action figure world in general.  It had improved and useful articulation, the separate sculpted jacket, the functional holster WITH a great new blaster sculpt...  It was really fantastic.

One of my big gripes on Han figures these days is that Hasbro doesn't have it with the separate and functional thigh-strap for the holster, and so I'm hopeful any future Bespin Han is knocked out of the park in every way, and includes that thigh-strap.  I hate the hovering ones of the Endor and ANH Han's out there right now.  It's a big reason I'd gladly rebuy Endor and ANH Han if they were to at least slightly retool it so the strap is actually part of the holster.  I actually even prefer the Commtech Han's holster, to the VOTC Han's.

This is such an odd figure to have yet to get a truly definitive update.  Can't wait to see what Hasbro puts out.  I just hope the Ford likeness is really good too, otherwise there will be much anger I fear.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: 501ST on August 30, 2010, 02:42 AM
I had this version of Han as my only Han back in my childhood toy playing days and I liked him a lot.

I do have the modern version as per the photos and it's an "ok" = sub-par figure for Bespin Han and could do with a re-do for certain.

Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: EpicGon on August 30, 2010, 12:02 PM
Both Hans are cool, what would happen if Hasbro Kenner has painted vintage bespin han boots? , they tried to improve the toy in the carbon freeze Han, but omitted to paint the yellow strips on his pants.

The likeness of potj Bespin Han is very accurate, but fans want to see another version. I think this one on the tvc would balance sculpt and articulation, and avoid very thin legs since the votc Han.
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Paul on September 1, 2010, 01:05 PM
Once the vintage version came out, I completely abandoned my small head ANH Han Solo.  Bespin Han is one my favorite Hero Variations and I, like most of us, was thrilled that the POTJ one had decent shoulder articulation.

I just hope that the new one meets my expectations by about 80%.  If it does that will be better than what we have.

And I agree about VOTC Han's legs.  They need to be retired.  They are real good on the ANH version but come up short on each subsequent version.

Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Scott on September 20, 2011, 10:38 PM
Source Images:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/hanbespin esb.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/hanbespin2 comparison.jpg)

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(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/hanbespin carded.jpg)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/hanbespin vintage.jpg)

Modern
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(http://www.jedidefender.com/collect92/hanbespin2 modern.jpg)
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: DarthBinge on September 20, 2011, 10:57 PM
I loved the Bespin outfits as a kid too! Was it with them?
Title: Re: Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 20, 2011, 11:50 PM
Definitely a better modern figure.  Thanks again for hooking me up with one Paul!