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I didn't see this posted anywhere yet, but the television upfronts are going on this week, and one of the series that was announced was Marvel's Agents of SHIELD from ABC. You can see the 3 minute trailer below, and the series will air on Tuesdays at 8/7c this Fall. Looking forward to it. #coulsonlives
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/05/14/agents-of-shield-trailer (http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/05/14/agents-of-shield-trailer)
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SHIELD is a guaranteed hit. And it's the only show that jumps out at me next season. Almost Human might have some potential, but that's about if from what I've seen.
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SHIELD is a guaranteed hit. And it's the only show that jumps out at me next season.
I would hate to be the executive that have to cancel this Josh Whedon project. This show looks too expensive to survive with poor ratings.
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Agents of SHIELD, anyone?
I thought it was pretty solid. I liked that they Maria Hill back, hope she remains a series regular. (Isnt' HIMYM ending this year?)
I liked that they didn't just gloss over Coulson's "death", but made it a point of mystery. Tahiti, indeed.
Liked most of the B players, although I found the lead bohunk pretty annoying. The Rising Tide chick was super cute. How did Summer Glau not get that part though? The Brits were nice, Ming Wa too, and Ron Glass is always %^&* money.
The thing I was a little concerned about going in is still a concern though - i think the nameless schmoe of the week with powers is going to get stale quickly. This is a prime opportunity to pull in some good B and C list players from the Marvel Universe. There are definitely more than a few that require little in the way of CGI or expensive effects. (Power Man and Iron Fist baby!)
I'll keep watching this for sure though, looks like a potential winner.
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I enjoyed it thoroughly. The banter! Really top-notch stuff.
I don't worry much about freak-of-the-week. I enjoyed that with X-Files through its entire run. It seems like they're already setting up threads that'll run through long-term. Constructed right, it can work.
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Was actually pretty bored with it. I will keep watching and give it a chance but not impressed so far. I appreciate the mystery regarding Coulson's death, hopefully it amounts to something. I have not read up much about it but i hope we get some Marvel characters sprinkled in, even if they are pretty obscure.
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I thought it was good fun. They might have eased up a bit on Avengers references, but it wasn't like they called them by name specifically. There were some great bits of writing/dialogue to add the right amount of humor without feeling too forced. I'm excited to see where it goes and if it leads into Thor and Cap2
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It felt awkward, rushed, and just kind of dull and underwhelming overall. I'll stick with it for a while and hope that it finds its legs, but I can't see the average TV viewer seeing anything in that pilot that made them think it is must see TV.
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I hope this gets good ratings since it looks pretty expensive to survive on poor ones. I would hate to be to the executive to cancel this Joss Whedon project.
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Forgot to mention I had to LOL and cry a little inside when I saw that Hasbro Angry Birds Telepods commercial during SHIELD last night. What a revolting development.
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I thought it was pretty good, and I'm so excited for a regular Marvel series on television. I'd also like to see them dip into the MU characters a bit as things go on, I understand we likely won't be seeing Spider-Man or anyone like that, but some of the other characters (I do like the Heroes for Hire idea...maybe even as a sort of pilot for their own series eventually). Looking forward to more of SHIELD though, a fun pilot.
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I hope this gets good ratings since it looks pretty expensive to survive on poor ones. I would hate to be to the executive to cancel this Joss Whedon project.
SHIELD highest rated prime-time premiere in 4 years. (http://www.deadline.com/2013/09/ratings-rat-race-strong-premiere-for-abcs-agents-of-shield-lucky-7-flops-nbcs-chicago-fire-hits-highs/)
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I hope the show has some stories that lead into the movies.
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I thought it was good, nothing stuck out at me that made me hate it. I like how they made some cryptic references to Coulson's "recovery" so I'd like to see how that plays out. The cast is ok but a little bland; it would be good to see their development so hopefully as the season goes along things will get better. But since Disney owns ABC and Marvel, I don't see it getting cancelled but will run at least an entire season. I also think that if they can squeeze in some type of cameo or some visible reference to the Avengers to help keep it tied in, that will help out. I'll definitely keep watching.
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Little too pat. If it weren't for Coulson I'd probably skip it. Maybe it will improve.
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Bland is a pretty good description. If I weren't so hopeful for how good it COULD be based on the Marvel backing, I'd have probably bailed on it. Maybe that's why it reminded me of Heroes so much.
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There's definitely a lot of place-setting that took place in the first episode of Agents of SHIELD. It's something that every television series is going to face, even with some of the storylines that have already been set up by the previous Marvel movies. But the points of continuity between the films and the series are definitely going to help carry the show with fans of the movie universe.
The Coulson survival storyline is clearly far more complicated than even Coulson realizes. I see a recurring storyline here. And I also see a character development storyline happening with Agent Melinda May. Her first scene just screamed foreshadowing.
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(http://i.imgur.com/68WWyue.png)
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Chloe Bennet = +1
I finally caught the premiere last night and thought it was great. Coulson makes the show and the rest of the team are tolerable enough. I liked that they went with an in-universe Extremis concept and hope we see more characters/storylines from the Marvel comics as the show goes on. They set up a ton of plot lines in the first show, while still telling a compelling story and introducing a good sized cast - I'd give it an easy A for achieving all that in just an hour. I didn't mind the Avengers references at all and the banter between the characters was excellent. My only disappointment is that they seemed to form this sub-team of SHEILD that's off on its own. I always thought of these guys in similar context to GI Joe, where there's big bases and command centers of agents all over to give it a bigger feel. The 5-6 misfits out on their own feels more A-Teamish to me, but we'll see how it plays out. Would be great to get some quick cameos from the bigger Marvel movies now and then and I hope they work towards that. It's a great way to promote the show and gain new viewers, while also driving publicity for the movie.
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Is any sticking with the Agents of SHIELD? My son and I have enjoyed the show but I worry that it is not going to have enough general appeal. It seems to be losing ratings each week. I suspect ABC has poured too much into it to kill it early but I hope it survives. I think references and cameos to the other parts of the franchise will help.
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It's official. 'Marvel's Agents of SHIELD' gets full season order (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/10/agents-of-shield-full-season/)
ABC’s Tuesday night heroes are sticking around for a full season as Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is getting a full season order. ABC has picked up the back-nine episodes to round out a full traditional 22-episode season.
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I'm loving SHIELD. I thought yesterday's was the best yet. I'm starting to actually like the hacker chick. I felt some real "moments" while watching the latest one. It has the feel to me of a series that'll build into something really special.
The ratings have dropped, but it's still even for the top show of the night.
Here's a decent interview about the series:
http://www.hitfix.com/news/agents-of-shield-not-sweating-second-episode-ratings-drop#~ojTble5XuvViV0
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The hacker girl is definitely part of why i keep watching. She has the very cute look. I agree it could benefit from some super heroes though.
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Skye is definitely meant to be the eye candy. Although I find myself checking out Simmons and May more than her.
The show has definitely been building slowly. Maybe a little too slowly for some viewers. This weeks episode was another place-setter for somewhere down the road, as is the mysterious Coulson story. We do have a couple of Marvel movies on tap over the next year. And I do suspect that there's the possibility of tie-ins preceding the release of the new Thor and Captain America movies.
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Finally watched this week's episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. It's nice to see some people with actual powers in the mix. When I saw the previews for this week's episode I almost thought "Are they going to do a story about Sunfire?" given the pyro-kinetic powers of this particular character. But I was a little surprised to see that they're continuing on with the Extremis plotline from the first episode of the season.
The one point in the show that was a nice nod to Marvel lore? The two guys in firesuits who apprehend Scorch. Sure, from a story standpoint they're wearing the suits to protect themselves. But those suits were also a big callback to AIM in the comics. Especially since it was AIM that was behind Extremis in Iron Man 3.
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The writers and producers of that show are ashamed of their roots, I am now convinced.
They're frigging comic books, not lost chapters of the Bible. Don't take yourselves so seriously. You're not going to lose 50% of the viewing audience at the first sight of spendex or a cape. It's not enough to give guys clever names, they need a suit and a scheme.
Instead we get schmoes, scientists, and girls in flowery dresses. Big fat hairy deal.
It's not a bad show, just not nearly as good as it could be by injecting the same stuff that made Avengers so wildly popular. In the comics, SHIELD was regularly interacting with super powered heroes and villains.
Red Ronin FTW!
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I thought they might drop the Sunfire name as well... but then he couldn't really turn evil and explode like he did.
I wonder if the show has any rights at all to Mutants. So many Marvel supes are genetic mutations that if they can't use them it ties their hands. I guess they can't really introduce anybody who might eventually show up in an X-men or FF film.
Here's hoping for Skye in even fewer clothes next week!
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(http://img2.tvtome.com/i/u/3806a925ce29448ac4c95270481f496d.gif)
Wowsers.
I think that the lack of costumes and capes makes sense in the "universe" they have created here. Plus, no one working surreptitiously would wear a flashy costume, so it makes sense that the Extremis people act this way.
I never really thought of it, but can the Disney Marvel Movie Universe even mention genetic mutation at all, much less any character who's powers are derived this way?
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I could watch that GIF for hours...
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Why isn't that picture in the Top 5 hotties?
Reading her bio, this show is really her first real acting gig. She seems to be a Chinese pop star. I always thought she was a Latina.
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Why isn't that picture in the Top 5 hotties?
Reading her bio, this show is really her first real acting gig. She seems to be a Chinese pop star. I always thought she was a Latina.
Me too - I found this on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S96Yqzg6JHU
Not my cup of tea, and since it's 2 years old, I don't think it was anyone else's either... hopefully things work out for her on Agents of SHIELD.
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I could watch that GIF for hours...
Next week on Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Skye spends all hour trying to get her pants on.
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I could watch that GIF for hours...
Next week on Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Skye spends all hour trying to get her pants on.
Turns out she's gained weight because she's pregnant...
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Gosh, I hope she doesn't start to sing in the show. That sounded like they needed some serious sound mixing to pull off that video.
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That GIF is making me reconsider waiting to shotgun the season in one sitting
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Not sure how many episodes in we are, 6 or 7 maybe, but it seems apparent at this point that Agents of SHIELD is not going to get any better. It's the same shtick every week. Certainly not a bad show, but having stuff like Walking Dead back on now only serves to highlight how much this show under-delivers on its promise.
Some golden opportunities to tie in to the new Thor and Captain America movies, will be a shame if they fail to capitalize on those.
And what happened to Ron Glass? His schedule suddenly got too busy?
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I guess the next episode ties in with Thor somehow.
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How many are still sticking with Agents of Shield? I'm still watching it and I enjoy it. I'm not a huge marvel fanboy but it seems like they are trying to start to introduce more Marvel characters (Deathlok?). I hope it keeps up as it seems like it could be a good vehicle to keep the marvel machine rolling.
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Still watching. Still enjoying. I like how they're tying in movies.
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Yeah, it has improved over the course of the season to be sure. I find it to be a pretty entertaining hour of tv, was definitely geeked over Deathlok. Not sure how long it will stick around ultimately, but there a lot of stories left to tell.
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I haven't watched it in a while, but still sticking with it. Along with Helix and Walking Dead.
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That business with Coulston and the surgery was a definite holy **** moment for me.
It has gotten much better in the past few episodes.
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Definitely sticking with Agents of SHIELD. It took a while for things to get rolling but the show seems to have some turned a corner. Especially after Coulson's interrogation. But the air schedule seems a little puzzling. Are they taking this week off because they don't want to compete with the Olympics?
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Are they taking this week off because they don't want to compete with the Olympics?
That's pretty much it ... except they didn't just take the week off. There isn't a new episode until March.
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Are they taking this week off because they don't want to compete with the Olympics?
I thought they weren't coming back until March, which would make it about a month? But, yeah, having breaks all the time isn't good.
I can understand not wanting to compete against the Olympics, though.
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Agents of SHIELD...
I think there might have been a clue about who/what that was in the tube at the Guest House. Coulson wound up speaking with Sif in the most recent episode about the various blue aliens that she knows of from throughout the universe. One notable name came up: the Kree! Out of all of the alien species in the Marvel Universe, the Kree have been pretty notable. Could this have been our first glimpse of the Kree?
And recently Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige mentioned the possibility of a Captain Marvel movie (http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/kevin-feige-admits-captain-marvel-movie-may-happen-085900085.html). IIRC, that character had ties to the Kree in the comics.
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I've read a ton of speculation about it being Kree. And that Coulson becomes Captain Marvel (and Skye becoming Ms. Marvel.. or Miss... whichever one got super powers from the Kree). Personally, I doubt we'll see anything beyond super healing. The show has really picked up lately.
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There have been other rumblings that the Kree connection might be investigated with another SHIELD operative by the name of Carol Danvers. The actor who seems to have been mentioned in connection with that is Katee Sackhoff, of Battlestar Galactica fame. Or Bo Katan from Clone Wars, depending on who you liked more.
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Katie as Ms. Marvel would be awesome!
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Evidently the Kree are going to come into play in Guardians of the Galaxy. Two Kree characters are confirmed for that film. But one that we saw in the trailer, played by Djimon Hounsou, wasn't blue. Strange.
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Evidently the Kree are going to come into play in Guardians of the Galaxy. Two Kree characters are confirmed for that film. But one that we saw in the trailer, played by Djimon Hounsou, wasn't blue. Strange.
I always wondered that too. Apparently...The original Kree had blue-colored skin, but a second racial group with pink skin resembling that of human Caucasians emerged over the millennia. Presently, the blue-skinned "purebred" Kree are a small, but powerful, minority. Pink Kree are much more durable than their blue racial brethren. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kree)
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Who is still with Agents of Shield? I feel like the show has really picked up in the last few weeks. Haven't seen Captain America yet so I'm not sure how much cross-over there is but I can guess at a few things.
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This thread is for those of you who are interested in discussing the Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. television program with other like-minded individuals.
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Who is still with Agents of Shield? I feel like the show has really picked up in the last few weeks. Haven't seen Captain America yet so I'm not sure how much cross-over there is but I can guess at a few things.
So, I have only seen the first few. I had the rest DVR'd, but had to switch to a new cable box, so I lost them all. I really want to watch the rest, but can't find any free options to catch the show. Nothing on Netflix or Comcast on demand, and not willing to pay $2 per show via Amazon. Any other ideas???
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There is a Watch ABC app that will let you watch the past 4-5 episodes. If you haven't seen The Winter Soldier don't watch the 4/8 episode.
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I have the last two Marvel Agents of SHIELD episodes to watch and I'm liking it, but I don't get excited to watch as I do Person of Interest, Justified or Blue Bloods.
I have Turn on my DVR, I'm at the point I'll watch an original AMC series on faith.
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There is a Watch ABC app that will let you watch the past 4-5 episodes. If you haven't seen The Winter Soldier don't watch the 4/8 episode.
True. The events of CA2 are felt big time in the show. Very cool. It's also cool to see the completed DeathLok character.
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Just watched last weeks so I haven't see yesterdays episode. I'm a little afraid to since I haven't seen CA2 yet.
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There is a Watch ABC app that will let you watch the past 4-5 episodes. If you haven't seen The Winter Soldier don't watch the 4/8 episode.
Thanks Jay. I have the last 4 via on demand/DVR, but need to go much further back. Maybe I just need to wait for the DVD.
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Just watched last weeks so I haven't see yesterdays episode. I'm a little afraid to since I haven't seen CA2 yet.
Then don't watch it. You'll want to see the new Cap movie BEFORE you watch last night's episode.
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Yup. Wait until you see it. Unless you don't plan to see Cap at all or don't mind if the plot is spoiled.
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It's gotten so good, last night was the best episode yet IMO. The synergy of tying this in with all the CA2 stuff was brilliant. That is exactly what this show should be, an extension of the films, filling in the gaps in between, etc.
I'm kinda bummed after all the twists last night though, my 2 favorite characters are now bad guys. :(
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Just so, so happy I saw AoS last week, then CA2 Friday, and then last night's episode. That was the perfect sequencing of events. The show has gotten much better over the course of this season. The kinda threw a wrench into things last night though, not sure where they will go from here. (Start working on that GotG tie-in!)
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That is exactly what this show should be, an extension of the films, filling in the gaps in between, etc.
The downside of this is that having too many movie tie-ins could hurt the show because the viewer that didn't see one of the movies is in the dark... or if they saw it, they didn't see it right away. Not everyone is a die-hard fan that will be out in the theater the first few days after the movie opens, or if they are, they have too many thing going on in life to do so.
I haven't watched the recent episode yet (it's on DVR waiting for me) and I need to go see CA2 yet... so I guess I'm good that I can hold off on any of the SHIELD episodes until I see the movie. ;D
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I just finished the episode as well and it was a great one running concurrent to CA2. I loved not knowing where allegiances stood - though at the end there was little doubt. 8)
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Just watched last weeks so I haven't see yesterdays episode. I'm a little afraid to since I haven't seen CA2 yet.
Unless you are going to see the movie in the next few days I would say watch the episode as soon as possible. Things that will probably be shown in every ad for the next episode are far bigger spoilers for the show than what is revealed about the movie. I haven't seen the movie yet and I still have no idea what happens in it. Just who the enemy really is and a general sense of what condition SHIELD is in at the end. Both of which will probably also be spoiled in an ad.
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Will there be a name change?
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Yep, in retrospect I wish I would have delayed AoS until after Cap2.
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I've watched both episodes and haven't seen Cap2 yet. The AoS episodes are actually making me want to see the movie more now to fill in the blanks. Possibly going this weekend so I can't wait.
I agree that the episodes have gotten better over the course of the season. Really looking forward to how this season is going to end and where things will end up.
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Hell of an ending!
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Tuesday's episode had more twists and turns than I thought possible in 1 hour on ABC. And I was incredibly surprised at some of the agents who turned. Sitwell? REALLY?!?! I thought that guy was great. Especially after his appearance in a couple of the Marvel shorts that were on the DVD extras.
The ending was phenomenal. I was not expecting that. Although I suspect that people have been judging Ward at face value, and he may be in for the long play.
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Haven't seen CA2 yet since I never get to see movies that aren't kid aimed around here (PG or G only :-\ ) . I haven't seen Ironman3 or Thor2 yet either for that reason. I will have to rent them I guess. I wish Netflix was a little faster at getting A-list movies. Anyway, loved the show and I liked being in the dark like Coulson. I look at it that I have a subscription to this comic book only. However, just by seeing commercials and being around the net, I knew Hydra was taking over Shield. Why else have a Red Skull figure in the CA2 toy line?
I could tell just by being alive on the net that Hydra was taking over Shield and that Ward's old boss was Hydra. Of course, were you have a Master, you must have an Apprentice. This definitely makes Ward a lot more interesting. I like that Ward is looking for his own Apprentice in Skye. Coulson's memory wipe thing makes more sense now since I think he was a Hydra agent too.
I do think the show needs more of this though:
(http://img2.tvtome.com/i/u/3806a925ce29448ac4c95270481f496d.gif)
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I was a bit spoiled as to know there were 2 agents but didn't know who. It became very obvious when Ward volunteered to escort Garrett to the Fridge due to it being personal and Hand allowing it. Just the protocol would be against it: where is Ward's allegiance? If it's personal, would Garrett find himself gunned down (as Hand offered Ward)? But Garrett/Ward being HYDRA makes sense as the SO can indoctrinate the junior agent slowly. I guess Triplett must have been new with Garrett though it didn't feel that way, so you'd think his allegiance might be swayed as well.
I don't recall the % of SHEILD that was infiltrated by HYDRA, but it seemed quite significant.
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Why else have a Red Skull figure in the CA2 toy line?
I think his presence is to actually just deliver a more accurate representation of Red Skull from the first film. While the first film's toy line figure is nice - it doesn't match how Red Skull was dressed at the climax of the film. The new figure fills that void nicely.
Coulson's memory wipe thing makes more sense now since I think he was a Hydra agent too.
I don't think so - at least I would like to believe that he wasn't a Hydra agent. What's making you think that he is a Hydra agent, the fact that Hand thought he was?
And I was incredibly surprised at some of the agents who turned. Sitwell? REALLY?!?! I thought that guy was great. Especially after his appearance in a couple of the Marvel shorts that were on the DVD extras.
I'm guessing you haven't seen CA2 yet. (or at least you hadn't seen it at the time you saw this week's episode of AoS)
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Coulson wasn't Hydra. The people from Hydra knew who was in Hydra. It was only the people in SHIELD who were in the dark.
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Coulson's memory wipe thing makes more sense now since I think he was a Hydra agent too.
I don't think so - at least I would like to believe that he wasn't a Hydra agent. What's making you think that he is a Hydra agent, the fact that Hand thought he was?
I'm thinking more along the lines that Garrett and Coulson were originally partners (or one trained the other one). They could have had influence over each other to join Hydra similar to how Garrett recruited Ward.
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At the beginning of the episode I was pretty well convinced that Hand was one of the Hydra operatives. Especially when she seized control of Coulson's plane. I was a bit surprised when things turned around.
Ward has been a little surprising over the past several episodes. It started when he was seduced by Lorelei. And then he shot the person that they thought was the Clairvoyant. This week he took out who knows how many SHIELD/Hydra tactical officers. And then he gunned down Agent Hand and the others that were escorting Garrett to the Cooler.
My theory? One thing that was mentioned in the first episode as Coulson was assembling the team was that Ward was a specialist. He was used to working alone and adapting to increasingly complex conditions. Is it possible that Ward is using that background now in an attempt to infiltrate Hydra? He knew that he was going to be facing a board of inquiry for killing the red herring Clairvoyant. Is it possible that he's going in even deeper in an attempt to redeem himself? Even at the expense of having killed a Level 8 agent?
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You are probably right, Nick. I mean that last scene that focused on Ward just watching the blood run down Hand's hand (no, no echo) and then the look afterwards. Would this change possibly cloud the Clairvoyant's image of Ward? It will be interesting to see how it all goes down.
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It seems like Ward probably had to go to the extreme of gunning down Hand and company in order to gain Garrett's trust, convincing him that Ward was really coming over to the Hydra side.
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I watched the first few episodes but never got into it. I still have them taping weekly on my DVR, have they gotten better? Worth giving it another try?
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I watched the first few episodes but never got into it. I still have them taping weekly on my DVR, have they gotten better? Worth giving it another try?
I'm definitely in the camp that the season has gotten better as time has gone by. Good tie-ins with Thor 2 and Cap 2. Last two episodes have been the best this season.
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Agreed. It's been good since they came back in January.
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Interesting developments in light of the discovery of the Hydra cabal within SHIELD. I got the sense that Coulson was fairly senior within SHIELD. But for him to be one of the most senior agents remaining in the organization? It sounds like Garrett and his cohorts may have done far more damage than was first thought.
True to form, Talbot seemed like a tremendous prick. And it seems like he's gunning to take SHIELD apart. But I wonder if he's involved if we may eventually see "Thunderbolt" Ross work his way into the show, too? I think William Hurt did a great job with Ross in The Incredible Hulk, but I know that he's currently working on a Broadway play.
Ward's turn is seeming more and more legit as thing progress. I had initially thought that he was attempting to go into deep cover in an effort to infiltrate Hydra. But now I'm not so sure about that theory.
The one thing that I got a real kick from in last night's episode? It was actually a callback to the first Captain America & Falcon comic I ever got. In the comic Cap & Falcon went into a barber shop and got into chairs. From there, the chairs lowered into a secret SHIELD facility. And when "Flowers" got lowered into the Hydra base the same way I just loved it!
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Talbot is played by the guy who played Nathan Petrelli in Heroes. I knew I recognized him, but couldn't put my finger on it.
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It was the horrible fake mustache...
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Man, just 2 episodes left in the season... that's rough. I'm enjoying it thoroughly. I keep forgetting that the characters don't know that Fury's still alive... Will be interesting to see what Maria Hill's purpose is next week
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ABC Renews Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Orders Agent Carter! (http://www.superherohype.com/news/301761-abc-renews-marvels-agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-and-orders-agent-carter)
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I was just about to post the same thing. ;D
I'm excited for both. SHIELD has been very good, approaching great, since January. And Carter looks very promising. From what I hear they might do SHIELD in the fall, Carter during the winter, and SHIELD back in the spring. That'd be a lot better than what they did with SHIELD this year... 2 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 1 week back on again, etc.
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Can't wait for next week's episode and the special guest!
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Good news, I figured they would be back but you never know with all the production costs they incur, I have to think that is one of their most expensive series.
So...Skye backstory? Chinese monsters? Huh? Is this something from comics lore or just some goofy crap they are making up for the show?
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Not familiar with any Chinese monster lore in the Marvel Universe. Best guess would be look at the Mandarin. The "real" one referenced in the 1-shot, not Trevor.
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The only Chinese monster that comes to mind is Fin Fang Foom. And the Mandarin would be the other tie-in, there. But based on the Iron Man story arc in the MCU and the Ten Rings, that doesn't seem quite as likely.
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Watch the Marvel One-Shot "All Hail the King". It kinda changes things after IM3.
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I've seen the one-shot. I know that the Ben Kingsley character was a red herring. I'm actually referring to the terrorist leader from the first Iron Man movie. I've thought that HE would eventually become the real Mandarin.
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New Fall scheduled was released. SHIELD is moving to 9PM (Eastern) and Agent Carter will be shown during the winter hiatus. So no more of the stupid two weeks on, two weeks off, one week on, three weeks off tomfoolery like this season had. They will be showing the first half of the season, then Agent Carter, and then the second half with no repeats.
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Holy crap, that was a kick-ass finale tonight! They pulled all the potential together that this show offered from the start...a way to introduce 2nd tier comic figures like Deathlok, a means to pull together the various movie continuities, and overall just a great vehicle to expand the Marvel universe in new and interesting ways.
SPOILERS AHEAD!
The May/Ward fight was both epic and brutal. LOVED the way it ended, bolts to the foot...so freaking perfect.
Fury was money as usual...the banter with Coulson in the scene with Garrett near the end was hilarious. Loved how they tied up that whole unresolved stuff between them too. Also freaking awesome swerve with Coulson blasting Garrett to pieces after his seeming resurrection...too funny.
Little concerned we won't get Fitz back next season, I really hope that is not the case, he was a key part of the team dynamic I think. Losing Ward is enough.
Man, the couple of ending scenes were super cool too. Skye's dad?!? Coulson with the weird alien glyphs? (Was that a map or some sort of schematic, like for say an Infinity Gauntlet or something? Hmmm)
A+++, best finale of any show I've seen this year. Can't wait for next season!
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Awesome episode. Paxton played a good villain. ;D
Bring on season 2!
Agent Carter.. will see.. :-\
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Pretty good resolution to the whole Garrett / Deathlok storyline. Paxton was great in the role, both as the seasoned agent as well as that of the turncoat. And when he took the drug? He played the crazed angle well, too.
There was definitely something about Coulson when he was with Fury that was great. It seemed to bring him back to that vibe he had in the MCU movies prior to the launch of the series. And when he had the Destroyer gun? That was just awesome!
There are definitely some significant hanging storylines. The gravitonium, Ian Quinn and Rena are all still at large. Ward's captivity is probably going to be an ongoing storyline as SHIELD interrogates him about Garrett and Hydra. Skye's story is clearly something they want to explore. And it seems as though May is going to need to continue to keep tabs on Coulson. Oh, and all the while they need to focus on rebuilding SHIELD.
There are definitely some interesting places for the series to go. And with Hydra set to be a factor in the upcoming Avengers - Age of Ultron? I think that we're very likely to see another tie-in between Agents of SHIELD and that movie.
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great episode
the onl thing i didn't like
Director Coulson? really?!?!?! just doesn't have the same ring to it as Director Fury. And did Fury just paint a big red target on Coulsons head by doing that. I mean isn't SHIELD basically considered a terrorist organization now, and Coulson is now handed the keys.
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That was a fun episode. I love the banter between Coulson and Fury as Garrett was boasting about ruling the world. The destroyer gun was fantastic! I just didn't understand if everyone is outside getting things mopped up, why did they leave Garrett's body on the ground inside? Shouldn't there have been someone around bagging him? He puts himself together and I thought here is the beginning of Aquarius but then gets splatted into goo by Coulson.
So whats with the same guy running the Playground as he did in the other hidden bunker? Is he a clone or medical hologram-type guy or just some alien? No more Ward on the team but I think he will be back. He still has to grab Skye for her father. I just wonder if the black guy is also Hydra since he initially showed up with Garrett.
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So whats with the same guy running the Playground as he did in the other hidden bunker? Is he a clone or medical hologram-type guy or just some alien?
I wonder if he's just simply a twin.
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He's either a twin or a clone. Because Ward killed Eric Koenig at the first secret facility. Skye discovered him because his blood was dripping down from the drop ceiling where Ward had hidden his body.
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I just didn't understand if everyone is outside getting things mopped up, why did they leave Garrett's body on the ground inside? Shouldn't there have been someone around bagging him? He puts himself together and I thought here is the beginning of Aquarius but then gets splatted into goo by Coulson.
I thought the same thing. I thought that whole scene was unnecessary. Other than that, I really liked the season finale.
So whats with the same guy running the Playground as he did in the other hidden bunker? Is he a clone or medical hologram-type guy or just some alien? No more Ward on the team but I think he will be back. He still has to grab Skye for her father. I just wonder if the black guy is also Hydra since he initially showed up with Garrett.
I don't think Triplett is Hydra. It was mentioned that he is a grandson of a Howling Commando (I'm assuming Gabriel Jones) and that's where the team got some of the weapons used in the last couple episodes.
So whats with the same guy running the Playground as he did in the other hidden bunker? Is he a clone or medical hologram-type guy or just some alien?
I wonder if he's just simply a twin.
He didn't seem too broken up over his brother's death if he was a twin. Maybe a clone or the new Marvel universe version of a Life Model Decoy?
E...
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I guess after seeing GOtG, it's no mistake what species that alien is.
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Agreed, I was thinking that during the movie as well.
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I mentioned as much in the GotG thread. And for a while I've thought that the dead alien was a Kree. The cincher for me? In GotG I saw some writing on walls of Ronan's ship that resembled some of the glyphs that Coulson was inscribing on that wall at the end of season 1.
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Well, well, well! It looks like the REAL Absorbing Man will be coming to Agents of SHIELD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHbaKW3G8Dc) this fall.
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I enjoyed SHIELD, too and some of the things were surprising. Lucy Lawless' character, for instance. Big name star, done in one episode. Also, Fitz and his nature now. Surprising that Simmons left SHIELD, but as of yet, we don't know the reason. Wll be interesting to see how this season goes.
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So these guys that Lawless lead were a bunch of red shirts? Will we see them again? Did Lawless look fat to you?
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Episode 1 of Season 2 certainly started off nicely. I have to say, Hayley Atwell as Agent Carter was one of the high points of the first Captain America film. Seeing her reprise the role in Captain America - The Winter Soldier and now in the season premier of Agents of SHIELD was nice. And knowing that the mid-season hiatus will be occupied by the spinoff Agent Carter is pretty cool. And was it me, or did Dum Dum Dugan nearly open a casket with a dead blue alien?
It does seem as though some things have transpired since the end of Season 1. Coulson seems to be rebuilding the organization bit by bit, but SHIELD continues to be regarded as an outlawed organization. Who better than one of the great pricks of the Marvel Universe to pursue them than Glenn Talbot!
This new Hydra cell seems interesting. I thought it might tie in with Baron Von Strucker who we saw at the end of Captain America - The Winter Soldier, but this looks like a completely different faction. The ageless leader is definitely interesting. The Absorbing Man seems to have been well done from an effects standpoint. And I was personally happy to see that he barely had any dialogue. When I realized who was playing the part I thought the show runners made the wise decision in limiting his speaking. I found Brian Wade to be pretty hateable in other roles when he opened his mouth. So silence here is his friend!
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I agree with pretty much everything in your post (though I know nothing about Brian Wade (or don't recall him) so can't complain there). I really agree with your Hayley Atwell comments. Can't get enough of her.
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It was great to see some of the Howling Commandos from Cap 1! And yeah - I should have paused on that crate when Dum Dum opened it. It was certainly blue...
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It left the impression that it was the same blue alien. Wasn't that the same species of alien that took Star Lord's walkman in the prison?
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Ta da! ;)
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Shield/Kree2ndseason_zps29e90178.jpg)
Remember the blue guy from season 1?
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Shield/3751325-agents-of-shield-blue_zpsd6ecdf0f.jpg)
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Ugh, forgot how much I dislike Rayna. >:(
I hope they don't make Simmons out to be a bad guy now.
Agent Paul Atreides Cooper Skye's Dad FTW!
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He's just there for a good cherry pie & a damn fine cup of coffee... :D
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Also, Fitz and his nature now. Surprising that Simmons left SHIELD, but as of yet, we don't know the reason.
Well it looks like you're going to get your wish next week. I have to admit, the Fitz story line is going to get really old really fast if it continues this way. I was already annoyed 5 minutes into the second episode.
They've definitely kicked it up with the first two episodes this season. Glad to see them using more effects. I'm looking forward to some more movie tie-ins and comic book characters as the season progresses.
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Doesn't it seem weird that no one on the show ever talks about any of the Avengers?
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The second series definitely seems to be off to a more quick paced start than season one. And I think the integration of the show's story line with that of Captain America - The Winter Soldier gave the show a new lease on life. That boost in interest seems to have translated into a bigger production & effects budget for the show. Although I think the Harley Davidson product placement helped that this week, too.
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Of all of the SHIELD operatives to go undercover in HYDRA.... Simmons?!?! The sheer audacity of that move is astounding. Although the scene between her and Coulson in the apartment was pretty funny. But it seems like she might be deceptively capable in an undercover role.
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Avengers: Age of Ultron Teaser Coming with Next Week’s Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.! (http://www.superherohype.com/news/319607-avengers-age-of-ultron-teaser-coming-with-next-weeks-marvels-agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d#/slide/1l)
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Last night's episode was terrific, and I am loving me some Adrienne Palicki. :)
So what's the deal with Skye's dad? Does he turn into a monster or is he just super strong?
Did they ever explain how Whitehall isn't aging?
Was hoping for a less awkward reunion for FitzSimmons...
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With SHIELD's limited FX budget, I'm guessing we won't see Skye's dad turn into a monster. It seems pretty obvious he's what killed everyone in that village. I was thinking he could be Wendigo. Not a 1-to-1 match to the comics, but a fair adaptation.
No explanation yet of Whitehall.
And I agree - so far this season has been aces.
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So Skye's dad will go all Hulk Smash on everyone? He seems to talk like Banner does. That it is the 'other' guy that does the destruction.
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Well, I guess they could only maintain their streak of good episodes for so long. Last night was terrible IMO. The whole thing with the elder Ward seemed really rushed and would have played out better had they introduced him earlier. The plotline in Okinawa and Belgium made no sense.
But worst of all, for a show that has been pretty clever and unpredictable to this point in the season, the gratuitous and completely obvious escape of Ward. How on earth do you not sedate him for transport, or maybe even keep the bag over his head after he gets in the truck? That seemed like an incredibly lax detail for such a dangerous prisoner transport. And wouldn't the Senator have held off on th press conference until AFTER his brother was in custody? The whole thing was just asinine.
The only thing I hope is that this was perhaps part of some larger angle where they let him go purposely to track him back to Skye's dad or Whitehall or something. Otherwise this was just bad writing.
Really getting sick of Simmons too. What is so hard about telling Fitz you left because you thought you were hindering his recovery? Instead you just let him imagine any number of other hurtful possibilities...nice. Grow up and tell him you only like him as a friend or whatever, just seems cruel to keep dancing around it.
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Well Fitz has been madly in love with Simmons forever while she see's Fitz as her brother. I really think we need to separate these two, let Simmons do her best imitation of Jennifer Garner in Alias and kill off Fitz and let the black guy be the science officer from now on.
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Fitz is totally in the friend zone when it comes to Simmons. And it also seems like with his Simmons hallucinations that he might actually have some latent tendencies. Not that there's anything wrong with that....
I like the addition of Adrianne Palicki as Mockingbird. She looks like she's got the fighting style right with the batons. It also helps that she's easy on the eyes.
The fight choreography has actually been pretty awesome. I saw what looked like some Wu Shu moves during May's fight sequence with the Hydra merc in the Belgian safe house.
The Ward storyline has been weird and manipulative. Especially the scenes between him and Skye. But seriously, how has it been kept under wraps for all this time that Ward's brother is a United States Senator? Really?!?!
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First Official Look at Marvel's Agent Carter on ABC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XkkRVeyVnw)
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So... the city...
I'll take a wild guess here - Atlantis? That's what it reminds me of if it's an Earth locale. It's gotta be "undiscovered" so it can't be Wakanda.
I know the rights to Namor are kind of messy, but when I did some research it seemed like he's not off the table.
Also cool to see Joel Gretsch. I used to watch The 4400 back in the day.
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So... the city...
I'll take a wild guess here - Atlantis? That's what it reminds me of if it's an Earth locale. It's gotta be "undiscovered" so it can't be Wakanda.
I know the rights to Namor are kind of messy, but when I did some research it seemed like he's not off the table.
Also cool to see Joel Gretsch. I used to watch The 4400 back in the day.
My money is on the Lost City of the Inhumans ;)
I want someone to ask the showrunners if they ever plan to kill off Ward. I'm sick of that dbag.
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Ward's interesting. Such a gray character. Sinful beyond redemption, but wanting nothing else.
But yeah, he's also a huge dbag.
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Seems too early to set up the Inhumans. They'd be trying to find the city before Hydra for almost 4 seasons! :o
But you could be right. Is their city "thousands of years old"?
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Seems too early to set up the Inhumans. They'd be trying to find the city before Hydra for almost 4 seasons! :o
But you could be right. Is their city "thousands of years old"?
Yes, Attilan is at least as old as the decomposing Kree, which is supposedly thousands of years old. Supposedly the Kree came to Earth and experimented on early humans, creating the "Inhumans" who then went on to found Attilan, etc. Skye's dad could be an exiled Inhuman trying to find his way back.
Marvel has also announced they are shipping double the copies of next week's issue of the Inhumans too, which coincedentally comes out the day after the next SHIELD episode airs. Hmmm...
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Man, I'll be impressed if they kept that kind of reveal under wraps.
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Well, onto the winter break... hard to wait until March, but I guess we have Agent Carter to tide us over until then.
So the finale, wow!
A question...
What happened to Raina? She was there and it appeared she changed, but she didn't appear to be in the chamber once Skye freed herself from her "Chrysalis."
Poor Trip
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Agent Carter looks like it's going to be pretty good. I thought that Hayley Atwell was fantastic in Captain America - The First Avenger. I'm hoping that for the sake of continuity Howard Stark also gets included in the mix. He seemed to be an integral part of the first Cap movie. And if they can get Tommy Lee Jones, too? That would be fantastic.
As for last night's episode? It still seems like there's a whole lot bubbling under the surface. Just WHAT is Skye's father? It looked like he was about to transform into something but it stopped. Whitehall got taken out, although it did seem a little anti-climactic. And then the events down below? Well, some of the showrunners seem to know how to leave the audience wanting more.
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I'm hoping that for the sake of continuity Howard Stark also gets included in the mix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V13W9gQ_1GA
Just WHAT is Skye's father? It looked like he was about to transform into something but it stopped.
http://marvel.wikia.com/Calvin_Zabo_%28Earth-616%29 and Skye is: http://marvel.wikia.com/Daisy_Johnson_%28Earth-616%29
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Does that mean Skye's dad joins forces with a guy that looks like Serpentor from GI Joe?
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Well they sure did good in this episode & it keeps getting better, can't wait till March!
----------> Skye aka Daisy Johnson "Quake"... Raina aka Raina Earth-616 (http://marvel.wikia.com/Raina_%28Earth-616%29)... the Inhumans. As for Trip aka B.J. Brit, hard to say for a dead person that is rumored to be in Avengers: Age of Ultron (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1580957/) & it has also been mentioned that Agents of Shield will lead into AoU like they did with Captain America.
For the time being, bring on Agent Carter! 8)
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Well, seeing as how they only killed one of the 5 people I wanted to see get snuffed (Whitehall/Ward/Skye'sDad/Raina/Agent 33) I was a little bummed, but I get that they want to keep stringing those characters out for whatever reason.
Surprised Mac survived and Tripp did not. Killed off the wrong guy, IMHO, he will be missed.
Also curious what happened to Raina at the end there.
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Also curious what happened to Raina at the end there.
If you pause the footage you can make out her face in the shadows, but it's definitely hard to see what she/it is now. Definitely not the woman in the flower dress any longer though...
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It was a really good episode. I'm kinda upset that I read about the characters online - probably would have enjoyed Skye's progression more had I not spoiled it for myself.
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Also curious what happened to Raina at the end there.
If you pause the footage you can make out her face in the shadows, but it's definitely hard to see what she/it is now. Definitely not the woman in the flower dress any longer though...
Just looking at what happened in that chamber with Skye and Tripp? It looked like Raina was affected much in the same way that Skye was. Skye wound up in a cocoon, it would seem. If the same thing happened to Raina it makes sense since we already know that she can hold the Diviner without being killed.
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Somehow, I have a feeling Trip isn't truly dead.
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Somehow, I have a feeling Trip isn't truly dead.
Trip becomes a Force ghost?
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He did kinda crumble. I don't see how he's coming back from that.
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Kragle?
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Rumors are circulating about a certain SHIELD Agent (http://www.bustle.com/articles/54969-will-hawkeye-be-on-agents-of-shield-jeremy-renner-could-have-a-cameo-if-we-believe) who may work their way into the ABC series. He's been referenced in the show, and it could lead to an interesting crossover into some upcoming MCU projects.
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Glad to see the way Agent Carter has wrapped up. A short season like this really does play well. I think the British have it right in keeping their television seasons short and sweet, A 20+ episode season can get somewhat bloated.
Hayley Atwell is fantastic as Peggy Carter. She reminds you of some of the best aspects of Captain America - The First Avenger and keeps things grounded in that world. Dominic Cooper has also been great in expanding the realization of Howard Stark. He was an interesting character in the first Cap film and we got to see some small snippets of him in the Iron Man films. But here he seems like the Howard Hughes genius inventor/business tycoon sort of character that I think he was intended to be. And Jarvis? I think he's been very well realized. I almost didn't recognize the actor until I IMDB'd him and found that he was also in Master & Commander. But I think the character gives some great insight into the personality of Tony Stark's J.A.R.V.I.S. artificial intelligence.
The way the season has run it looks like we're building more and more towards the official founding of SHIELD. The SSR seems like it was more of a classic government intel/law enforcement agency, and far less sophisticated than the SHIELD we came to know in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It also seems like we got some keen insight into some of the background of the Black Widow project with Dottie and her "classmates". And now with her on the run and Doctor Faustus in custody? And Zola as his cellmate? That's another interesting tie-in to the Cap films and the eventual infiltration of Hydra into SHIELD.
I'm hopeful that another season of Agent Carter will be coming to spell us while Agents of SHIELD is on hiatus. Because we're essentially getting a great look at two distinct eras of SHIELD.
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I agree. I loved Agent Carter. Lots of cool nods to references made in the films. I think the shorter season was perfect, no filler, no stretching. I was also impressed that they didn't get her right into another relationship right away.
Anyone looking for well written, strong female characters needs to watch this show.
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I was also impressed that they didn't get her right into another relationship right away.
Yeah. It's apparent she still loves Steve. But in the end, she realizes that he is gone and let's him go (pouring his blood into the East River)... setting up for possibly something with Sousa in Season 2.
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I thought it was great. My wife LOVED it. When it ended she said she's going to miss it. I'm really hoping for a second season.
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I was surprised to read that so far ABC has yet to renew Agent Carter for a second season. But in the ratings it actually did slightly better than Agents of SHIELD.
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The "demo" ratings weren't quite as good, but overall viewership was even. I expect they'd announce season 2 when they announce SHIELD.
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Well, they have been promoting the hell out of the second half of this season of Agents of SHIELD. I'm hoping that the show picks up in the second half like we saw last year. And I'm especially hoping that we're going to see some sort of tie-in with Avengers - Age of Ultron.
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Well, they have been promoting the hell out of the second half of this season of Agents of SHIELD. I'm hoping that the show picks up in the second half like we saw last year. And I'm especially hoping that we're going to see some sort of tie-in with Avengers - Age of Ultron.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Will Tie To Avengers: Age Of Ultron! (http://comicbook.com/2014/12/09/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-will-tie-to-avengers-age-of-ultron/)
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So Rayna evolved into the chick from "Nightbreed"?
Funny I don't recall any Inhumans with thorns growing out of them. And the only one who could teleport was Lockjaw. And they all had eyes.
So WTF?
I liked seeing Fred "Hunter" Dryer (where was DeeDee?) back on TV for five more minutes. And the play against Hydra was pretty enjoyable, if a bit silly. Not liking the subterfuge with Fury's toolbox though. Haven't we had enough "mole on the team" BS to put up with already? It's played out.
I also liked Fitz giving fanboys the world over a stiffy when he told Skye her heartbeat was "inhuman" - so coy, you writers!
I don't feel like I really missed this show all that much after all. At least we get SIF next week.
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The comic book Inhumans (who we presume live on the other side of the moon) aren't who the SHIELD humans turn into. I don't think all the powered individuals we'll see are based on characters from the comics. Seems like they have some creative freedom on that front.
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So last night's reveal was pretty big. I was certain Mockingbird and Mac were working for Talbot. But it turned out they're working for the "real" SHIELD. Pretty clever way, IMO, to have SHIELD as a viable player in Age of Ultron (and a legitimate "secret" agency to boot). Not looking forward to seeing how the TV squad reacts when they find out they've been a decoy for the past year.
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Was that Edward James Olmos as the Director? Nice get.
It seems to me that the "real" SHIELD is whoever Fury bequeathed the legacy to, and that was clearly Coulson. What have these other schmoes been doing the past 6 months? Certainly not fighting Hydra or saving the world like Coulson's team.
Posers!
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"So Say We All"
(http://cdn3-www.superherohype.com/assets/uploads/2015/03/OlmosBar640.jpg)
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So the "real" SHIELD was on a decommissioned Battlestar during the last six months as Hydra was blowing up most of the fake SHIELD. Now the "real" SHIELD and it's old Battlestar are humanities only hope against Ultron and his army of robots as they are chased across the galaxy hoping to meet up with the Guardians of the Galaxy and their Battlestar. Skye will learn to be a great fighter pilot and with the help of Groot defeat Ultron and Hydra and find a new world for humanity.
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Why is it ever since "The Fringe" Kirk Acevedo is always cast as an ahole? :(
That was a terribly weak backstory for the other SHIELD too. Transparency really? Maybe Hunter should have reminded those dopes that if Coulson hadn't found and flooded the city that Hydra would have taken it over. Or asked them WTF they were doing when Whitehall and HYDRA were kicking ass and taking names across the globe the past few months.
Time for Fury to pop back up and collectively bitch-slap those morons.
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Plus, Coulson basically planted the seed that took out several Hydra heads a few episodes ago (after Whitehall's death).
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No one noticed a gigantic missing aircraft carrier?
Or all the people manning it?
For the past six months?
Hrm.
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Sure, when
the cylons hydra were attacking this aircraft carrier was being decommissioned and turned into a museum.
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I pretty much have no idea what's going to happen next. Are Skye and Raina gonna become BFFs at Inhumans camp?
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Sounds like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. will be spinning in the near future:
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/marvel-agents-shield-spinoff-early-development-205153288.html
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Interesting note that Agents of Shield has not yet been renewed.
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Talks about the end game and season 3.
http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/agents_of_shield_eps_avengers_ward_end_game_season_3-2015-05 (http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/agents_of_shield_eps_avengers_ward_end_game_season_3-2015-05)
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ABC Renews Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter! (http://www.superherohype.com/news/340133-abc-renews-marvels-agents-of-shield-and-agent-carter)
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ABC Renews Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter! (http://www.superherohype.com/news/340133-abc-renews-marvels-agents-of-shield-and-agent-carter)
Great news! I knew the ratings were pretty decent for both but you never know about these shows with high production costs. I look forward to more great synergy with the Marvel cinematic universe...
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I think it would be hard for them to cancel AOS unless they had a different Marvel show in development. Besides this season ends with a cliffhanger. They would never cancel a Whedon show ending with a cliffhanger, would they???
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Cool to see the Kree being worked into the series a little more. And to finally hear the word "Inhumans" mentioned in the course of the show, too. But with all of these Kree mentions over the course of the series as well as the MCU films, it would be nice to see Marvel working the Skrulls in as well. But are the Skrulls tied up in the segment of the Marvel Universe associated with the Fantastic Four?
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I believe I read Skrulls are FF, and thus Fox.
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I believe I read Skrulls are FF, and thus Fox.
You are correct. However, anything can happen once the reboot tanks. Disney might get to buy back the rights to F4.
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That movie just doesn't look very good. I hate the CG Thing. It was much better as a costume. The whole thing looks like it was made for the Disney Channel. What's with a black Johnny Storm but Sue is white? I guess Sue was adopted. Doom looks just silly.
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Holy Hell, that was a finale!
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That movie just doesn't look very good. I hate the CG Thing. It was much better as a costume. The whole thing looks like it was made for the Disney Channel. What's with a black Johnny Storm but Sue is white? I guess Sue was adopted. Doom looks just silly.
According to what I read Dr. Franklin Storm marries Sue's mom and she already had Sue (who is a baby/toddler) and then Dr. Storm and Sue's mom have a child together, which is Johnny. Dr. Storm also adopted Sue which is how she gets his last name.
I see ZERO problem with this, I know there has been a lot of fanboy venom out there about "black Johnny Storm" (TOTALLY not lumping you in that Paul). But with the way things are in the US today where there are countless "blended" families out there, it would be great to see one that functions well as a strong family unit. One of the lines I like most from the trailer is when Dr. Storm says "WHERE ARE MY CHILDREN?" (children being plural)
For myself being the patriarch of a family that is blended, this change resonates with me.
It's a shame many other aspects of this film just don't look "good". I will still be going to see this when it comes out, hopefully my expectations are SO low that there will be aspects of the movie that aren't that bad.
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What's with a black Johnny Storm but Sue is white?
Yeah, it's funny that we can believe in people who can fly and have superhuman strength, but if there is a mixed race family, then it's implausible.
Anyway, back to SHIELD.
SPOILERS
So, it looks like Ward wants to be a head of Hydra and is wants revenge for the death of Kara. Apparently, Ward did love her and didn't use her just as a pawn in his games. I'm sad to see Kara go as I had hoped there would be more development in her character... besides being hot.
A year later and Fitz-Simmons finally decide to try a relationship. Simmons again will be unable to commit due to her circumstances.
Coulson's hand.
Finally seeing Cal's transformation that had been hinted about.
Sad to see Raina go. Was hoping for more from her.
Can't wait for season 3
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I'm not thinking of it that way. I just see it as a marketing gimmick just like making them all really young.
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The finale was absolutely awesome. I had a total "Pulp Fiction back-seat gunshot" reaction to the axe strike. And at so many instances there was the tension that nobody was safe. Three or four times I thought major characters had been killed. Edge-of-your-seat, compelling stuff. I was really impressed.
My wife commented it was "movie-like" it was of such high quality. They've come a long way.
I'm guessing the fish oil pills are a non-lethal way for Inhumans to arise across the globe.
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I enjoyed the entire season. I thought it was suppose to be a cliffhanger but they tied up most of the loose ends. I wonder if Clouson is getting a Luke Skywalker hand or something like the Winter Soldier's. Chloe Bennet has gotten to be a better actress in this season. She had more to work with. I still love Adrianne Palicki. She definitely needs to stick around. Someone really needs to kill Grant. I like how May tricked Grant into killing Agent 33. She was getting annoying.
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I thought it was terrific too...except for the last 5 minutes where there was some kind of bizarre commercial interruption that pre-empted the show. I'll have to go back and watch it On Demand now. It cut back right during the scene when Ward was jacking up that Hydra guy.
Anyway, great stuff. Glad they culled the herd a bit, getting to be too many characters on this show. Super happy to see Raina gone especially, I really disliked her character. I didn't have the same antipathy towards Gordon and Skye's mom, but they needed to go too.
Totally agree about the imminent danger...I thought for sure Bobbi was going to buy it. And I was convinced Mack was going to touch one of the crystals and turn into an Inhuman, after all his grousing about aliens. ("No-Eyes" - LOL)
Great that the offed Kara, even better that dipsh*t Ward did it. I guess it would have been too much to ask to see his tired ass put down finally too. Maybe next season. God, I hate that ahole.
As soon as they intimated a long-awaited Fitzsimmons hook-up, I knew one of them would get iced somehow. Sucks, I am a Fitzsimmons 'shipper and I want them to hook up.
Also awesome to see Cal as Mr Hyde finally. That was pretty cool. Nice of them to go Tahiti on his ass.
I don't know what to make of the fish oil thing. Since when are Terrigen crystals water soluble anyway?
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I was disappointed with Mr. Hyde. I was expecting something along the lines of the Hulk not Kyle with even more messed up hair and neck veins. Do you think they have cherry pie in Tahiti?
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A very solid way to end season 2. In fact up until last week I thought that Jaiying had somewhat benevolent intentions. At least until she killed Gonzalez! I got the sense that Rayna was able to redeem herself. And personally? I'm not completely certain that she's dead. All in all I think this episode arc has done a lot to develop the Inhumans in the MCU in the leadup to their movie. I'm just curious if Skye will end up crossing over into that project.
The fight for the control of the Illiad was some pretty good stuff. Multiple Girl was pretty badass, but it was cool to see that there was a way to take out all of the copies by neutralizing the prime Multiple girl. And the fight for the Kree artifact between Mac, Coulson, Fitz and Gordon? That was pretty awesome. But when Mac lopped off Coulson's arm? That was definitely shocking, but it was also a great bookend. After all, the season began with Lucy Lawless's character touching a Diviner and cutting off her own arm in an attempt to survive. She didn't, but Mac's actions were so decisive that he wound up saving Coulson's life.
The Ward/Agent 33 arc came to a fitting end. 33 was clearly damaged and beyond any sort of salvation. And Ward is just all sorts of messed up. I was glad to see Bobbie beat the hell out of both of them... at least until Ward broke her leg. The fact that Bobbie would also sacrifice herself rather than letting Hunter get shot really showed some real heart for her character. I thought Bobbie was a little one dimensional at the beginning of the season, and Hunter was too. But they really seem to have developed into good characters for the show.
The last few things in the episode left you wondering where things are going. May seems to have turned a corner. I think she's finally come to terms with what happened in Bahrain. And I get the sense that she may be on the verge of rekindling her marriage. Coulson? I think he may wind up with a Deathlok type of arm. Ward as the new leader of HYDRA? Seriously? I wonder where that may go. But the biggest shock of all had to be Simmons being sucked into the Kree artifact. That was an even bigger WHOA moment than what happened to Coulson. It certainly left me wondering if Simmons will actually become Captain Marvel.
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Anyone still watching this show? 2 solid episodes thus far... except that Ward. ::)
Nice to see Lo Pan... :D
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I've enjoyed the season so far. Would have liked to have seen more of the other end of the portal, but maybe we'll get back there someday. It seems like there might be some foreboding that Coulson may end up dead and staying dead someday with May's ex giving her the "you're becoming a leader" speech.
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It's as okay a show as it's been.
As for Strucker Jr. Me, personally I'd rather have sexy parties on my yacht over funding international terrorism.
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Anyone still watching this show? 2 solid episodes thus far... except that Ward. ::)
Nice to see Lo Pan... :D
They're on my DVR...haven't gotten to them yet. The same can't be said for Gotham.
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I've enjoyed it so far...every season I wonder if this is the year they will decide to kill Ward off once and for all, and that hope keeps me going. Eventually it's gotta happen, dude is going to get another role somewhere or something. At least Flowers is gone!
What was Simmons running from in the other dimension? The first episode it clearly seemed as though she was trying to evade someone or something. Guess we will find out. Glad they did not drag her captivity out over the whole season.
I liked the Inhuman-hunting KreeBeast a lot...one of the cooler things they have featured on the show so far.
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The first two episodes have been top-notch. My wife actually gasped when their hands came apart in the portal world. Very tense stuff. I'd read somewhere that the portal issue was going to be resolved in short order, and I also saw Simmons on the Season 3 poster, so I had a good idea how things were going to play out. Still, it was very compelling even for me.
Anybody have any clue who the Inhuman hunter is modeled after? The character wasn't familiar to me at all.
As far as Daisy becoming a leader, I think it's pretty clear she's set to become the leader of the Secret Warriors. I don't know how closely they'll follow the comic universe, but if you look up Marvel's Quake you can see what she went on to do there.
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Anybody have any clue who the Inhuman hunter is modeled after? The character wasn't familiar to me at all.
I read somewhere this was Lash who was also an Inhuman in the comics.
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Yep, that is Lash & he's going to **** things up... ;D
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Lash was pretty badass. But I'm wondering where the whole Inhuman storyline is going. Word has it that there are some divisions at Marvel Studios over how to handle the Inhumans in both films and television. Which means that the movie appears to be on hold.
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This week's episodes blew me away. That the survivor survived was completely unexpected. The identity of Lash was even more unexpected. But the top thing that happened - Powers Boothe showed up! Playing, one must assume, the same character he played in The Avengers! The Security Council dude who tried to nuke NYC!! And he's with Hydra!!! I was like "holy crap!" over and over and over again.
Every single episode this season has knocked it out of the park.
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I'm still mad about last week's episode. >:(
Why do the writers hate Fitz?!?!
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It's the long play. It makes the payoff that much better when Fitz & Simmons eventually get together.
I think it was awesome to see Powers Boothe in the episode. The tie-in of his character from the first Avengers film as a member of the World Security Council was great. And it keeps the whole storyline of Hydra having inflitrated it's way into SHIELD that much more insidious.
As for Lash's identity? There was a moment during this week's episode that clued me in on the possibility that it was someone close to SHIELD. And when the reveal came at the end of the episode I wasn't that surprised.
But the fight sequence between Bobbie and Ward's chief goon? That was good. And when she shocked the hell out of him in the water? It showed just how ruthless she can be!
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So I'm guessing he's skipping Daisy because Daisy is very effective at drawing out Inhumans to eliminate? It can't be just so he can get to the lightning dude.
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So I'm guessing he's skipping Daisy because Daisy is very effective at drawing out Inhumans to eliminate? It can't be just so he can get to the lightning dude.
That's what I'm thinking... he's using her to draw the Inhumans out.
As for last weeks episode. I loved seeing Simmons on Survivor: Portal World. When she ran into the Astronaut, I kind of figured there'd be a hitch to the Fitz-Simmons relationship.
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So, I finally caught up to the Season 2 finale via Netflex. Comcast has S3 Episodes On Demand, but starting with epsidoe 3. Any suggestions on a good source to catch the first two episodes from this season?
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I was going to suggest abc.com, but it looks like they don't have S3 E1 or 2 either. No idea then... hope you find them.
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I use this site Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (http://www.thedaretube.com/tv/marvels-agents-of-shield) Just finding the links that work.
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SPOILERS!
SHIELD sure did a heck of a job this week tying up every single loose end into one cohesive plot. I was thinking "Oh, the alien planet thing - that's a totally different plot from The Inhumans." "Oh the Ward revenge thing - that's not connected at all to The Inhumans."
But... NOPE! Everything is The Inhumans.
I can't imagine they planned all this from the beginning. I'm talking Cap: First Avenger beginning. Because that'd just be ridiculous.
Any guesses on the Hydra Leader on the alien planet?
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I was thinking it could be Simmons' boyfriend back on the planet as you never see the mysterious guy and the astronaut together. We hear him calling to Jemma but you never see it. That could be a twist, especially if Jemma is pregnant with a human-Inhuman hybrid.
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I just want to ask the writers if they ever plan on killing Ward or should I just check out and stop watching now.
Because I've had enough of that cocky dbag to last a lifetime. Off him already. If Grey's Anatomy can kill McDreamy, NO ONE should be untouchable on that network.
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I just want to ask the writers if they ever plan on killing Ward or should I just check out and stop watching now.
+1
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I think the show has to go there eventually. And with this possible threat from the alien planet, plus the Powers Boothe faction of Hydra? I think the show runners have somewhere to go if they kill off Ward.
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And it could be as early as next week as the preview seems like it's action packed. I doubt it but I bet by the end of the season, Ward's gone.
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Funny - seems like Ward is generating almost Joeffrey-like hatred from some of you guys. ;D
I actually like him as the foil. I'll be sad to see him eventually buy it. Though I think they still have something in store with his relationship with Daisy.
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Ward and May's relationship is complicated and intriguing . One of the hilights of the show. It is the Sky/Daisy character I can't stand. She's hot but dull and a really crap actress.
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I use this site Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (http://www.thedaretube.com/tv/marvels-agents-of-shield) Just finding the links that work.
Cool - Thanks!
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Damn, for 58 and a half minutes that was the best episode ever.
And then they had to go and ruin it.
Damn you Hollywood writers!
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You had to know they wouldn't get rid of Ward even though he just looks like him.
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You had to have a new big bad with Ward dead.
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Lash is still loose and so is Powers Boothe.
Some one once called the AoS team the "b-team" (before the Hydra reveal in season 1). And that's what's happening, the B-Team is running what's left of SHIELD. This first half season they didn't accomplish jack diddly squat. Hydra is still around. Lash is loose again. Marooned astronaut is dead. Ward is dead but now some undead space slug host that they weren't supposed to allow on Earth.
And both notable members of that other agency are dead. Those captured inhumans are dead. And Coulson tossed away his awesome hand.
That makes me like the show, though.
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I was a tad bit disappointed that instead of killing Ward, Coulson didn't bring him through the portal to face justice. Seemed like too much of a departure from the Coulson character to me.
While I've heard that the guy who plays Ward is a really nice guy and such, and I would hate to see him "out of a job", I'm glad that the "end of the road" is near when it comes to Ward on the show. The writers have suffered trying to figure out what to do with Ward once they had the Hydra reveal in Season 1 and with the way things ended in Season 2, they really wrote them into the corner with regards to him being redeemable.
My thinking is that *somehow* Ward is still "in there" and perhaps after the being inside him wrecks a lot of havoc and the SHIELD / Secret Warriors Team are unable to defeat it, Ward somehow reasserts himself so that the being (and the host, i.e. Ward) can be destroyed. Almost like an Anakin/Vader kind of redemption - he's done a lot of bad stuff, but in the end, his better nature won out and he was instrumental in defeating an even greater evil. Would be a nice, dignified way for an original cast member to exit the series.
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My wife's response was "I knew it was too good to be true."
So the ancient inhuman banished from earth was a slug? Or maybe it was a symbiote... ;D
I thought it was supposed to be a shape-shifter rather than a body-snatcher, but I won't quibble. Looks like it absorbs the memories of the host. I still don't know if they're going to tie it to something from the Mavel comic universe.
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There was even a reference to Star Wars in the season 3 winter finale indeed.
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Kind of a weak first couple of episodes. Entertaining, but not very consequential.
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Yeah, it hasn't been great but it hasn't been tiresome or annoying like Agent carter (yet) at least. The Absorbing Man was pretty cool I thought.
I feel like there should be an Inhumans movie out in the next year to properly tie-in, but I know that is a ways off so I'm thinking they probably got into that stuff too early and are forced to tread water now.
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Watching this show is becoming a chore. There's no real tie-in to the movies (with the exception of Season 1 and Captain America: Winter Soldier), and it's just not very good television.
Not the Marvel Netflix shows..... ;D
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One 2-hour episode leaf in the season and a promised death of a major character that Daisy foresaw. Well, they showed Mack getting the cross necklace that is shown in the death scene, but I think that's a misdirect. The previews showed Fitz holding it, but I think it might be an after the death scene like sorting one's belongings. But I think it should be Daisy, because she was touched by the guy that shows that person's fate, not someone else's.
Any predictions?
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You know, I kept thinking the same thing - that the Inhuman who touched her only had the power to show people their own deaths, but I guess that wouldn't explain her first vision?
I think it would be a real slap to the fans to make it FitzSimmons after all they have been through. Hoping those two are safe.
I could see it being Mack, but since he is not an original team member, not sure if that would be considered enough bang for the buck. Logically I think Lincoln makes sense, some kind of grandiose gesture to save Daisy at the last second or something. But again, not a major character.
Pretty sure Coulson is safe, so that leaves May (mei?) that's where I would lay my money down. Her husband just died, she doesn't have a lot else going on lately except wanting to kill Ward, which would be a good way for her to go out, snuffing him once and for all. Plus she is the biggest name actor on the show and probably has plenty of other options if she wants to leave. And she's an original team member whose loss would leave a big juicy dramatic hole. :D
All I keep wondering is "man, the human race is about to be destroyed and no one thinks the Avengers could be of any help?!?" Even Arrow Guy? Lol...
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so that leaves May (mei?) that's where I would lay my money down. Her husband just died, she doesn't have a lot else going on lately except wanting to kill Ward, which would be a good way for her to go out, snuffing him once and for all. Plus she is the biggest name actor on the show and probably has plenty of other options if she wants to leave. And she's an original team member whose loss would leave a big juicy dramatic hole.
Plus there where rumors that she was leaving the show at the end of the season before the season even started.
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So it was Lincoln who buys it. It wasn't shocking enough or an electrifying sacrifice for me to be sad about. I expected someone from the original team, though I guess Brett Dalton will no longer be on the show, even though his character died and was reborn. Maybe I should be sad for him?
Plus, Agent Carter is cancelled as is Most Wanted (never got off the ground), so for me losing Hunter and Bobbi tugged at the heart strings more than this death did.
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The spin-off with Bobby and Hunter was axed? Damn. They need to get them back on the regular show now. I miss those two. Not too sad about Agent Carter, it ended at a good place and had become something of an effort to watch anyway, IMHO.
Last night's finale was good. They did a nice job keeping you guessing who was going to buy it right up until the end. I was very nervous whenever FitzSimmons were on screen. (Would have been nice to see a 6 months later cutaway to them in the Seychelles at the end there, but whateves)
The death itself was sort of meh to me, but I guess they are going to use it to jack up Daisy's character for awhile now.
I didn't fully grasp either ending. Coulson is an agent now and no longer the Director? Who's the Director? Hoping this is just a temporary thing until they hunt down Daisy. And maybe they should have had the fast chick follow her? Just sayin...
I figured they would bring the Mad Scientist dude into the fold, but WTF was that at the very end? Did we just see Jocasta? Or something else???
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That finale was intense. Guessing right until the end on who bites it (I figured it out when SPOILERS Lincoln grabbed Daisy and they didn't show her necklace again /SPOILERS). I thought when Mac hugged Daisy, that was probably the most powerful moment of the entire series.
I'm also totally confused by the epilogues. Daisy becomes Robin Hood - that's easy enough. But the rest of the threads - total mystery.
I'm worried we'll still see Ward again. There's the matter of that Kree artifact he dug up - the "only thing" that can destroy him. That seems like a pretty major plot point to just leave out there hanging. I don't think we were ever told what happened to it.
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I'm worried we'll still see Ward again. There's the matter of that Kree artifact he dug up - the "only thing" that can destroy him. That seems like a pretty major plot point to just leave out there hanging. I don't think we were ever told what happened to it.
There was an article that came out right after the episode where Jed Whedon wouldn't comment on whether Ward would be back or not. I'm with you that I think he somehow shows up again. I just hope for our sake it's in flashbacks or something like that. I just grew really tired of seeing him after Season 1.
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I'm at least a couple of weeks behind on AoS on my DVR. But I did see that the Kree are in play with this storyline. I can't help but think that the show and the MCU are both moving towards involving the Kree in a bigger way. The drug/treatment that brought Coulson back was made from research/materials from that Kree corpse. Ronan the Accuser, from Guardians of the Galaxy was Kree as well. They're showing up on Agents of SHIELD again, it would seem. It leads me to think that they might be involved in GOTG2 as well, and might also be involved in the story for the Captain Marvel movie that's in development.
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That finale was intense. Guessing right until the end on who bites it (I figured it out when SPOILERS Lincoln grabbed Daisy and they didn't show her necklace again /SPOILERS). I thought when Mac hugged Daisy, that was probably the most powerful moment of the entire series.
I'm also totally confused by the epilogues. Daisy becomes Robin Hood - that's easy enough. But the rest of the threads - total mystery.
I'm worried we'll still see Ward again. There's the matter of that Kree artifact he dug up - the "only thing" that can destroy him. That seems like a pretty major plot point to just leave out there hanging. I don't think we were ever told what happened to it.
I thought about that too, but came up with a good explanation. That Kree artifact was actually built into the warhead and was part of the activation system through which the terrigen gas or whatever would be dispersed. IE: the technology was a necessary component to facilitate the re-creation of the experiment that created HIVE. So it did end up killing him really.
I thought the close up reveal of Hive's true face with the Coulson hologram was awesome too. I'm sure it wasn't cheap to pull off.
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So, the second half of the season has been pretty cool with the Framework/alt-universe world. It's interesting to see most of the known characters behave completely different. I'm kind of tired of Aida/Ophelia though. And also Grant Ward is back, presumably being the good guy! Awesome!
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I'm loving this new arc after the winter break. I was TOTALLY geeking out over the way the adapted the "What If?" comic book series (a favorite of mine as a kid). And the way they've executed it is spot-on.
I also didn't expect them to spend as much time in the framework as they have. Usually these alt-universe episodes are a 1-off or 2-parter.
It's been fun seeing some old faces. And I'm sad to see The Patriot bite it.
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I also didn't expect them to spend as much time in the framework as they have. Usually these alt-universe episodes are a 1-off or 2-parter.
It's been fun seeing some old faces. And I'm sad to see The Patriot bite it.
I'd love to see this last longer...maybe cliff hanger going into next season, but it looks like they are starting to finish it up.
Sad about The Patriot, too, but I guess the writers had to show how serious getting killed in The Framework is to the real person. I think it would have been interesting if Mace had known this, but I think he still believed the alt-world was real. I guess death is death though.
Seeing Trip back was cool.
I'll have to look up the What If comics.
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http://www.coverbrowser.com/covers/what-if
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http://www.coverbrowser.com/covers/what-if
The What if the X-Men died cover is hilarious after seeing Logan.
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I'm praying with all my might that this gets canceled. I've watched every episode from the beginning and it's just become a joyless exercise for me now. The writing is so bad it's like they aren't even trying anymore. And they seem to have given up on even attempting to tie together the various film franchises anymore, which I thought was the whole point of this thing to begin with. They didn't do anything for Dr Strange, and nothing for Thor 3.
It all started to go wrong with the Inhumans IMO. They've wasted like 3 seasons now on something that isn't even acknowledged in any of the movies. And the whole Ghost Rider thing...ugh.
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Maybe they decided to let it be its own thing instead of being forced to mention "dr. Strange did this, or some weird time anomaly happened here? They've got their own things going on.
I don't know. I've enjoyed this last bit with alt-world Hydra in control. I don't care about Aida/Madame Hydra though. Something about the actress.
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I thought Ghost Rider injected some life into the show by having an actual superhero they interacted with, even if he wasn't a current Marvel U film one.
The Inhuman thing has gotten stale, though.
And writing out whats his name and mockingbird for a spin-off that never happened was a blunder.
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Hindsight is 20-20, but count me in with the "Tired of Inhumans" crowd. I really struggle to comprehend the Marvel U factions that hate on DNA-related super beings, but have no problem with the rest of the Super Heroes. Why would people feel Daisy/Quake is a bigger threat than Hulk or Thor just because she got her powers from her DNA? I would think the average person either just loves or hates all people with powers based on their personal experiences.
I didn't mind the ghost rider stuff, but ditching Mockingbird was a mistake, as was bringing in a different Shield Director. They could have just made the Director Fury and limit his appearances to make him more secretive, or bring in Maria Hill as acting directory like the comics. They've tried to create some of the "is the Director good or bad" mystery and drama with this other guy, but it hasn't played out well in my opinion. I kinda wish they had focused more on working to re-establish Shield and its image with the initial Hydra fallout as well.
That all said, I think they've tackled some pretty cool Marvel U concepts. The LMDs are a neat concept, though in the comics Shield uses them vs. bad guys, and they're super helpful decoys for a variety of spy-guy needs. I liked some of the initial Inhuman stuff, and the various super baddies they've managed to bring in "Madame Hydra, Crusher Creel, etc. I'm still enjoying the show, just not nearly as much as the first few seasons. Hopefully they wrap up the Hydra/LMD/Inhuman stuff this season and move on to something new quickly.
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The opening scenes of tonight's episode were hilarious...Madam Hydra...meet gravity.
Wondering who is gonna be resurrected via Darkhold Ex Machina...that seems to be where they are going.