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Title: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on July 7, 2015, 04:17 PM
'Star Wars' Han Solo Spinoff In the Works With 'Lego Movie' Directors (Exclusive) (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/han-solo-star-wars-spinoff-807153)

The LEGO movie guys?  Hmmm...  I guess you can start adding #ChrisPrattforHanSolo to all those #ChrisPrattforIndy tweets, internet!
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on July 7, 2015, 04:21 PM
And, just minutes after Hollywood Reporter story goes up, SW.com makes it official!

Christopher Miller and Phil Lord to Helm Han Solo Anthology Film (http://www.starwars.com/news/christopher-miller-and-phil-lord-to-helm-han-solo-anthology-film?linkId=15374280)

"The screenplay is written by Lawrence Kasdan and Jon Kasdan. The story focuses on how young Han Solo became the smuggler, thief, and scoundrel whom Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi first encountered in the cantina at Mos Eisley."

Planned for 5/25/2018.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: McMetal on July 7, 2015, 04:42 PM
I love the idea, but dread the thought of the eventual casting. Chris Pratt is terrific, but he's kinda Chris Pratt in all his movies. I think they could do well with a newbie in this role.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on July 7, 2015, 04:45 PM
There are definitely some very big casting shoes to fill with this project.  I mean, who wants to follow Harrison Ford in this role?  And thinking about the timing of this news?  It's seriously got me wondering if there's going to be a casting announcement this Friday at the SDCC Star Wars panel.

There are also a couple of things that I'd really like to see in this project, but I also don't want to have Chris Miller and Phil Lord painted into a corner.
-How Han Solo earns the life debt from Chewbacca
-Han winning the Millenium Falcon from Lando in the Sabacc game
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Diddly on July 7, 2015, 04:49 PM
I mean I loved The LEGO Movie and all but these articles make it sound like this will be a comedy. Or am I the only one getting that vibe?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: JediJman on July 7, 2015, 04:58 PM
I'd be fine with Pratt Solo in an early film as he's one of the few guys that can match that kind of authentic macho charisma on screen.  But isn't he a little old to play "young Han Solo?"  How about Minnesota's own Garrett Hedlund (https://www.google.com/search?q=garrett+hedlund&es_sm=93&biw=1008&bih=619&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIqIz1qfTJxgIVxQOsCh1xSA2B)?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on July 7, 2015, 05:08 PM
There was a rumor last year about Aaron Paul being in contention (http://www.movieweb.com/star-wars-spinoff-movie-han-solo-aaron-paul) for a Han Solo anthology project role.  But I think if that was happening we might have heard something official about that in this news posting.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on July 7, 2015, 05:22 PM
I mean I loved The LEGO Movie and all but these articles make it sound like this will be a comedy. Or am I the only one getting that vibe?

Not getting a "comedy" vibe, but given the movies these guys make, I can imagine it will have plenty of "fun" in it...  or at least I'm hoping it's not 23 Jump Street staring Han and Chewie (now I'll have to go back and re-watch the closing credits of 22 Jump Street to see if there was a Star Wars parody in there :P).


Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on July 7, 2015, 06:03 PM
Yeah I'm open to any actor in the general possible realm here, aside from LeBooooof...  But Pratt included.  I don't know how he'll work out but at this point I don't know how any of these movies will work out so whatever.  I hope it's good.  And if it isn't I hope they put the lid on the idea and move on from it.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jayson on July 7, 2015, 07:32 PM
I'd like to see how Charlie Cox from Daredevil would be as Han. He's the right age, a little short maybe, but as intense he can be on DD I think he could pull it off. Pratt does nothing for me, maybe as Indy, but not Han.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on July 7, 2015, 07:56 PM
There are also a couple of things that I'd really like to see in this project, but I also don't want to have Chris Miller and Phil Lord painted into a corner.
-How Han Solo earns the life debt from Chewbacca
-Han winning the Millenium Falcon from Lando in the Sabacc game

Wasn't Han supposedly in the Imperial Academy (and that's where he rescues Chewie)?  I thought I read that somewhere a long time ago... I could be wrong.  Han as a disgruntled Imperial would be interesting, but I'm up for a good story over anything else.

I'm sure we'll see Jabba or hear him referenced.  Bounty Hunters... it'd be nice to see Greedo, the Executor Six (as long as Fett isn't overused), but it'd be cool to see Cad Bane or Embo in there.  Let's throw in some Tonnika Sisters (or however Disney wants to call them) so we can get their figures.


Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on July 8, 2015, 07:41 AM
Han being in the Imperial Academy is something that has been fodder for the EU but never made it into the films.  I'm not sure if the life debt got mentioned in the OT, but it was certainly implied.  But the Lando story about the Falcon is canon from TESB.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Scott on July 8, 2015, 09:32 AM
I really like the idea of these anthology films fleshing out the time between Episodes III and IV, there is a good 30 years of stuff that is missing from the timeline. 

A couple of thoughts I had that they could touch on including what Nick was saying: Bounty Hunters (Fett, Dengar, Bossk), Solo's Wife  ::), Jabba Jabba Jabba Jabba...come on we need more Jabba in SW
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on July 8, 2015, 10:59 AM
Han being in the Imperial Academy is something that has been fodder for the EU but never made it into the films.  I'm not sure if the life debt got mentioned in the OT, but it was certainly implied.  But the Lando story about the Falcon is canon from TESB.

1. No, I believe Han being in the Academy was from the early books before EU really heated up in the 90s.  Still, it's probably considered Legacy at this point.
2. The life debt was also an EU thing. 

But as I said, I don't care what they do as long as it's a good story.

I forgot to mention about Solo's Wife that was recently revealed in the comics.  I'm not reading the comics, so it would be interesting if that would be included in the films and how that plays with Han's relationship with Leia.  But I would prefer not to have a love triangle or really a love interest in the movies.  Let it be an adventure film.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on July 8, 2015, 11:14 AM
Yeah, I think that aside from the bet between Han and Lando for the Falcon, everything else falls into that Legends category.  Although the relationship between Han and Chewbacca is something that seems very worthy of exploring if you're going to make a movie about a young Han Solo.

And then there's this graphic that got leaked this morning that revealed the working title of FETT/SOLO - Anthology.  So will we wind up with Temuera Morrison stepping in to play Boba Fett if this is legit?

(https://indierevolver.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/wpid-ctt1hnql.jpg)

****EDIT - Info is surfacing that this graphic may be bogus.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on July 8, 2015, 11:16 AM
And then there's this graphic that got leaked this morning that revealed the working title of FETT/SOLO - Anthology.  So will we wind up with Temuera Morrison stepping in to play Boba Fett if this is legit?

Some interesting tidbits from a Disney blog (http://blogs.disney.com/insider/2015/07/07/breaking-the-han-solo-movie-just-got-a-lot-more-awesome) -

"That’s right, folks, they used the word characters. That makes us think that there will be additional familiar faces in this new film."

"With the big Star Wars presentation at this year’s San Diego Comic Con scheduled for Friday night and the D23 Expo just around the corner (in August), expect more details (like how this relates to the Star Wars Anthology film that Fantastic Four director Josh Trank recently left) soon."


That last bit about how the Han movie relates to the Anthology film that Trank left (rumored to be a Boba Fett movie) is pretty interesting...  just what are they saying/teasing there? 

Are they teasing the Han Film was the Trank/Fett movie?  If so, that Fett/Solo thing kinda works I guess.

Or maybe they're teasing that these anthology movies aren't as "stand alone" as we previously thought?  Maybe there's a Han Movie, the Fett/Trank movie, and then a Fett/Solo team-up movie???

Or, of course, the graphic could be bogus and the Fett/Solo thing is just fanboy nonsense.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on July 8, 2015, 11:28 AM
There is certainly the possibility that the graphic could be bogus.  But with the rumors of Ewan McGregor returning for an Obi-Wan film and previous rumors of Boba Fett being involved in an anthology film?  It gives you the sense that this could be legit.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on July 8, 2015, 11:48 AM
Or, of course, the graphic could be bogus and the Fett/Solo thing is just fanboy nonsense.

Yep, fake (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153114098106799).
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on August 13, 2015, 05:14 PM
Star Wars anthology: How young will Han Solo be? (http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/13/star-wars-anthology-young-han-solo)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on January 11, 2016, 02:19 PM
Check out THIS VARIETY ARTICLE (http://variety.com/2016/film/news/star-wars-han-solo-spinoff-actors-1201675519/) about casting for the Han Solo anthology film.  There is reportedly a short list of actors under consideration for the role of our favorite Corellian smuggler.  That list includes:

Miles Teller - "Whiplash", "Fantastic Four" (2015), "Divergent"
Ansel Elgort - "Divergent", "The Fault In Our Stars"
Dave Franco - "Unfinished Business", "Neighbors", "21 Jump Street"
Jack Reynor - "Transformers: Age of Extinction", "Delivery Man"
Scott Eastwood - "Dawn Patrol", "The Longest Ride"
Logan Lerman - "Fury", "Percy Jackson & the Olympians: The Lightning Thief"
Emory Cohen - “Brooklyn”
Blake Jenner - "Everybody Wants Some”
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: JediJman on January 11, 2016, 03:43 PM
Miles Teller and Ansel Elgort?  Really?  Is early Han a Dejarik chess nerd?  Not overly excited about any of these, but Jack Reynor kind of has that look...

(http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201452/rs_560x415-140602155629-1024.jack.cm.6214_copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Diddly on January 13, 2016, 11:38 PM
After careful consideration I have decided that I don't want this movie to happen at all. Han Solo should only be played by Harrison Ford.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on January 14, 2016, 09:28 AM
I saw Scott Eastwood in that Brad Pitt movie about the WWII Sherman Tank crew, Fury.  He really wasn't a central part of the story, but I think there's a resemblance to a younger Harrison Ford

(http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/145/738/i300/scott-eastwood-FURY.jpg?1427833955)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on January 14, 2016, 10:05 AM
What about Anthony Ingruber. He played young Harrison Ford in Age of Adaline. He has the voice down pat.

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTY3NzU3NTA2OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwODY4Nzc2NTE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqxTfzgIvSY
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on January 14, 2016, 10:34 AM
After careful consideration I have decided that I don't want this movie to happen at all. Han Solo should only be played by Harrison Ford.

Yeah, there is an argument to be made that way for sure. Some of the names on that list would be really, really, really bad choices for Han. :(

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on January 14, 2016, 11:21 AM
I'm completely on board with not making this in to a movie.  For some reason a movie seems like too big of a deal, and I see a lot or risk around casting for this role.

But I'm 100% behind having a "Smugglers" TV/Netflix series featuring young Han, Chewie, Lando, etc.  I think a TV show would have a lot more room to develop the character, create a backstory, find its footing, have a larger supporting cast, etc.

Not sure if they ever got serious about having Ewan do some Kenobi anthology movies, but I would love to see Ewan reprise his role a couple of times.  He was well cast and I think there is plenty of room to tell some Kenobi stories in the 20ish years between ROTS and ANH.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on March 3, 2016, 11:24 PM
I vote for no movie too.  You don't just reboot Han Frickin' Solo. 
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on March 3, 2016, 11:28 PM
IMO this is a no-win for Disney, but it's one they're wanting to take a look at because hey, Han right?  But they don't really realize who they're dealing with, as far as fans go, I think.   :-\
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on March 4, 2016, 11:10 AM
If they do recast him I sure as hell hope they don't try to turn him into a 22 year old heartthrob.  That short list up there is so uninspiring I don't know where to start.  It's all Hunger Games, Divergent, Maze Runner demographic stuff.

Bad, bad idea.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on March 6, 2016, 06:59 PM
If they do recast him I sure as hell hope they don't try to turn him into a 22 year old heartthrob.  That short list up there is so uninspiring I don't know where to start.  It's all Hunger Games, Divergent, Maze Runner demographic stuff.

Bad, bad idea.
In all fairness, those films you mention are mega hits and is easy to see why Disney would be interested in that formula.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on March 7, 2016, 10:23 AM
Sure, but they're mega hits targeted at a demographic that's like 13 to 21.

The Star Wars demo is more like 5 to 50.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on March 8, 2016, 07:46 AM
That demo speaks with big money at the box office.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on March 8, 2016, 10:01 AM
What is the demographics for Avatar since Disney is building Avatarland at Animal Kingdom?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on March 8, 2016, 10:27 AM
At first, I was in the "only Harrison Ford = Han Solo" camp.  Then I remembered that Harrison Ford = Han Solo is dead.  The only way for me to get new Han Solo in Star Wars movies is with a new Han Solo.  So... it is what it is.

If they cast the right guy, it'll probably all work out fine.  I'm going to put some faith into Kathleen Kennedy and the LFL people.  They found a batch of awesome people for Episode 7.  Hopefully they can do that here too.  Yes, I realize that recasting an icon like Han Solo is very different from finding a newbie like Daisy Ridley.  I just think they can do it.  I like the people involved in this movie - LFL, the directors, etc.  I have faith it's going to work out.

I'm sure recasting James Bond the first time freaked out all the folks at JamesBondDefender.com back in the day.  They were all like, "Sean Connery = James Bond"!  But they recast him and life moved on.  I guess at the end of the day, I'm fine with recasting Han Solo because no matter what happens, we'll always have Harrison Ford Han Solo.  If you go see the new movie and it sucks, you can go home watch 4/5/6/7 and spend your time on message boards telling everyone why 4/5/6/7 is the "REAL" Han Solo (taking the occasional breaks to chase kids off your front lawn, of course).

Whether we like it or not, it's going to happen.  What will be really interesting to see is what happens next....  if the "young Han Solo" movie(s) do well enough...  do they take it a step further?  Does it eventually evolve into "Young Han Solo" anchoring the cast of an Episode 4 reboot?   :-X

I mean, just think about it:  Young Han Solo #1 = 2018.  YHS#2 = 2021.  YHS#3 = 2024.   Then...  ANH 2.0 = 2027 (50th anniversary?!?)  :-X  ;D
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on March 8, 2016, 11:21 AM
I think there'll be some "Disney raped my childhood" rants (I think there already are after what they did to the EU/Legends).
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on March 8, 2016, 10:03 PM
That demo speaks with big money at the box office.

We're talking about Star wars, not Divergent.  I'm 35 and saw TFA 6 times.  You guys probably saw it more than I did.  Turn Han Solo into a movie for tweens and it's not going to do as well as it should.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on March 8, 2016, 11:17 PM
I think there'll be some "Disney raped my childhood" rants (I think there already are after what they did to the EU/Legends).

In regards to EU...they pretty much just made my library irrelevant!  ;D
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on March 9, 2016, 09:11 AM
I'm sure recasting James Bond the first time freaked out all the folks at JamesBondDefender.com back in the day.  They were all like, "Sean Connery = James Bond"!  But they recast him and life moved on.  I guess at the end of the day, I'm fine with recasting Han Solo because no matter what happens, we'll always have Harrison Ford Han Solo. 

Well, they did recast James Bond with George Lazabey which turned out to be a disaster. The producers had to get Connery back.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on March 9, 2016, 09:55 AM
I'm sure recasting James Bond the first time freaked out all the folks at JamesBondDefender.com back in the day.  They were all like, "Sean Connery = James Bond"!  But they recast him and life moved on.  I guess at the end of the day, I'm fine with recasting Han Solo because no matter what happens, we'll always have Harrison Ford Han Solo.

Well, they did recast James Bond with George Lazabey which turned out to be a disaster. The producers had to get Connery back.

Yep, an epic disaster, which is why they never tried it again and Sean Connery is still James Bond today...   :P

Recasting Han Solo is going to have bumps and bruises too.  Like Steve pointed out, a certain segment is going to hate the idea right off the bat.  Another segment of fans is going to love it no matter what.  Right now, I still have faith that the LFL crew isn't going to "Lazenby" Han Solo.  That could end up being horribly misplaced faith, but for now that's all I've got.



In other news, sounds like Chewbacca is confirmed (http://www.thewrap.com/chewbacca-to-appear-in-new-han-solo-movie-confirms-disneys-bob-iger/) for the movie. 

I wonder if they are going to let Joonas Suotamo (who was Chewbacca in a number of TFA scenes) continue on as Chewbacca?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: EdSolo on March 9, 2016, 10:33 AM
I'm sure recasting James Bond the first time freaked out all the folks at JamesBondDefender.com back in the day.  They were all like, "Sean Connery = James Bond"!  But they recast him and life moved on.  I guess at the end of the day, I'm fine with recasting Han Solo because no matter what happens, we'll always have Harrison Ford Han Solo. 

Well, they did recast James Bond with George Lazabey which turned out to be a disaster. The producers had to get Connery back.

Quite a different situation here.  Connery had starred in five consecutive Bond movies in a short time and then they changed the actor for one film.  On Her Majesty's Secret Service is easily a better movie than Connery's return in Diamonds are Forever.  In this situation, there is no way you can have Ford star as a young Han Solo.  It would be like trying to get Connery back to replace Craig.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2016, 02:32 PM
I will say what I said about TFA when new movies were announced.  I'll give them a chance but if they suck I will just ignore them.  To me it's that easy.  Tpm sucked but I didn't let it "ruin my childhood".  OT Han will not evaporate into nothingness if Disney cranks out a "Han-ger Games" (see what I did there?) movie about Han Solo.

Personally I don't think they'd do that.  At worst I think they'd just not get a good actor able to sort of mimic Fords style, kinda the opposite of McGregor's OWK.  I felt he was a bright spot in the PT.  It's doable then.  I think the story will be nice, it just boils down to gettin someone who can be, at least a little, like Ford played Han.  I'm not panicked over that I guess.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on March 9, 2016, 03:26 PM
I agree on the Ewan McGregor point. Han Solo is all near and dear to us and Harrison Ford is Harrison Ford, so the idea of recasting him seems heresy, but there's precedent for it succeeding. Kathleen Kennedy knows what she's doing and they'll avoid a bland guy who's in every movie and hire someone with weight and talent, like McGregor. I don't worry about a reduction in the character or the quality of the film because it's a younger version of him. This isn't Anakin in TPM we're talking about. Lawrence Kasdan is writing the movie. Personally I don't have a want or need for these sorts of spin off movies, but obviously this is the future. Just my two cents I think they should have held off on the spin offs until after the trilogy, due to a splintering in focus that I think is playing out somewhat with Rogue One - the hype will ramp up real quick after TFA drops on DVD, but there hasn't been any general public media awareness of the movie to this point. At this some juncture for TFA, we had the first teaser and the Celebration trailer was right around the corner. I think there is some going to be some confusion for audiences in terms of where's Rey (...) and wow this is super dark. I could be way off on that and people go see SW movies no matter what, but I think it's playing into the radio silence. Ideally you would have dropped some kind of teaser with TFA to get people thinking that Step 2 is this little side street into the past.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2016, 11:03 PM
It could be really awesome is all I'm saying...  And it could suck...  and it could be somewhere in between.

Don't stress about it.  It's less fun.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 12, 2016, 09:29 AM
Miles Teller and Ansel Elgort?  Really?  Is early Han a Dejarik chess nerd?  Not overly excited about any of these, but Jack Reynor kind of has that look...

(http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201452/rs_560x415-140602155629-1024.jack.cm.6214_copy.jpg)


Jack was just on the Today show and got asked about the possibility of being cast in the Han Solo movie.  Predictably, he couldn't say anything about being cast. But he was extremely complimentary of the directors, saying that they're the perfect guys to direct this film.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 14, 2016, 01:54 PM
According to this Deadline article (http://deadline.com/2016/04/star-wars-han-solo-movie-alden-ehrenreich-frontrunner-cast-1201737425/) there appears to be a frontrunner for the role of Han Solo.  That being Alden Ehrenreich, who got some really positive reviews for his role in the recent Coen brothers film, Hail Caesar!.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on May 6, 2016, 08:11 AM
It may now be official.  Check out this Nerdist article  (http://nerdist.com/alden-ehrenreich-may-be-top-pick-for-han-solo-movie/).  They're citing sources that indicate that an actor has officially been cast to play the young Han Solo in the upcoming anthology film, and the lead will in fact be Alden Ehrenreich.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on July 18, 2016, 11:51 AM
Check out some highlights from the Future Filmmakers panel at SWCE regarding the Han Solo anthology film (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUnk90ALX5E) with directors Chris Miller and Phil Lord.  And they also bring out the officially announced lead in the project, actor Alden Ehrenreich.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Diddly on July 26, 2016, 01:28 PM
Apparently the Han spinoffs are now set to be a trilogy (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/han-solo-return-part-bigger-plan-article-1.2722170?utm_content=buffercbb7e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDNGossip+Twitter%20)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on July 26, 2016, 09:22 PM
Interesting read.  It doesn't sound like it's set in stone at the moment, but an interesting prospect.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on July 26, 2016, 10:39 PM
I'm ok with that I guess?  I mean, hey, I'm ok with any of this crap for the most part...  I feel like I'm on an EU roller coaster ride at this point.  And I fully expect some downs to the ups on that ride.

So hey, whatever.

I want an all Bossk movie though.  They should do that.  "Bossk & Friends" or something.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 27, 2016, 12:32 AM
This is what I was afraid of with the anthology movies.  They're going to get stuck on main characters and not tell stories in the wider Star Wars Universe.  I'd rather see something akin to the Seven Samurai or 47 Ronin only told with Jedi!  Get away from the saga's main characters and make the universe bigger!
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on July 27, 2016, 12:58 AM
I have to look at the whole "3 picture deal" thing with a degree of skepticism.  I mean, isn't it pretty standard at this point for studios to sign talent to multi-picture deals in the event that one is a tremendous success?  That way they secure the actors... just in case.  Lots of the actors involved in the Marvel cinematic universe were signed to multi-picture contracts.  I think that the executives at Disney probably pushed for these sort of contracts since the MCU now has some 11 films under it's umbrella, and they seem to have similar plans for the Star Wars universe.

As for this being a trilogy?  I think that might be wishful thinking on the part of the writer.  But what about other projects?  I could see Han Solo being worked into a Boba Fett film if that project makes it's way out of development.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on July 27, 2016, 09:40 AM
isn't it pretty standard at this point for studios to sign talent to multi-picture deals in the event that one is a tremendous success?

Pretty much.  I'm in agreement with Nick - I see this as Disney playing it safe in case a Han movie does $800mil or something crazy and they want to do more.

And yeah, I could see Han movie leading to a Boba Fett movie or even a Jabba movie or a Lando movie - lots of other characters could cross his path.

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: JediJman on July 27, 2016, 10:23 AM
isn't it pretty standard at this point for studios to sign talent to multi-picture deals in the event that one is a tremendous success?

Pretty much.  I'm in agreement with Nick - I see this as Disney playing it safe in case a Han movie does $800mil or something crazy and they want to do more.

And yeah, I could see Han movie leading to a Boba Fett movie or even a Jabba movie or a Lando movie - lots of other characters could cross his path.

Agreed.  Lots of room for crossovers or other characters with this.  Its just smart to have options.  Look at what they're doing with the Marvel movies.  There were more Superheroes in Captain America III than any of the Avengers flicks.  They could do all kinds of stuff with a younger Han.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Scockery on July 27, 2016, 11:45 AM
My "they are going to remake A New Hope" theory is back on.   :P
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on July 28, 2016, 11:35 AM
My "they are going to remake A New Hope" theory is back on.   :P
I thought they already did that with TFA?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on August 12, 2016, 11:12 AM
Rumors are circulating around the Han Solo movie.  Notably, that a young version of an old smoothy (http://nerdist.com/star-wars-han-solo-prequel-is-casting-a-young-lando-calrissian/) might be joining the cast of the second Anthology film/Star Wars story.  One actor who's name is popping up for the role is Donald Glover.  I wonder if the lore of a card game where the Millennium Falcon was among the stakes will be explored?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 12, 2016, 11:37 AM
I'm getting less and less excited the more that I hear.  While I think a young Lando/Han/Chewie adventure could be fun, I don't have any desire to see Han win the Falcon from Lando.  We know it happened...don't need film time dedicated to it.

I am much more interested in the anthology movies being far removed from the saga storyline.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: JediJman on August 12, 2016, 12:17 PM
One actor who's name is popping up for the role is Donald Glover. 

Donald Glover would be perfect.  Here's a random picture of him on the street for reference.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BChpphsCQAAiV9V.jpg)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on August 12, 2016, 12:22 PM
One actor who's name is popping up for the role is Donald Glover. 

Donald Glover would be perfect.  Here's a random picture of him on the street for reference.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BChpphsCQAAiV9V.jpg)

Well, look what we have here!
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: JediJman on August 12, 2016, 03:37 PM
Apparently they have also posted some of the Young Han Solo audition tapes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUX_Vv6Rpvs).  I feel better about the actor they went with now.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on October 21, 2016, 05:15 PM
Hello, what have we here? (http://www.starwars.com/news/donald-glover-cast-as-young-lando-calrissian-in-upcoming-han-solo-star-wars-stand-alone-film)

Why, it's Donald Glover, who has been cast as the young version of Lando Calrissian in the upcoming Han Solo Anthology film!

Films // OCTOBER 21, 2016

Donald Glover Cast as Young Lando Calrissian in Upcoming Han Solo Star Wars Stand-Alone Film

The smooth-talking smuggler is coming back to the big screen.

Hello, what have we here?

Lucasfilm announced today that Donald Glover, an acclaimed actor, award-winning writer, and Grammy-nominated artist, will be playing the part of Lando Calrissian in the still-untitled Han Solo Star Wars film, helmed by directors Phil Lord and Christopher Miller. Glover will join Alden Ehrenreich — previously cast as Han Solo — in bringing two iconic Star Wars characters back to the big screen, but at a time in their lives previously unexplored. This new film depicts Lando in his formative years as a scoundrel on the rise in the galaxy’s underworld — years before the events involving Han, Leia, and Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back and his rise to Rebel hero in Return of the Jedi.

(http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/10/donald-glover.jpg)

“We’re so lucky to have an artist as talented as Donald join us,” said Lord and Miller. “These are big shoes to fill, and an even bigger cape, and this one fits him perfectly, which will save us money on alterations. Also, we’d like to publicly apologize to Donald for ruining Comic-Con for him forever.”

Glover is best known for creating and starring in the critically acclaimed FX series Atlanta (which had the highest premiere numbers for any basic cable comedy show since 2013), as well as for starring in four seasons of the show Community, and for his Grammy-nominated album Because the Internet, performed under the name Childish Gambino. In addition, Glover appeared in the Academy Award-nominated The Martian, and will be seen in the upcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming.

The untitled Han Solo movie is set for release in 2018.

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on November 18, 2016, 07:10 PM
Daenarys also has a role according to starwars.com
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on November 18, 2016, 10:31 PM
Hmmm.  I wonder if Emilia Clarke's character might have something to do with this line from TESB:

HAN: (to Chewie) Well, that was a long time ago. I'm sure he's forgotten about that.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: McMetal on January 11, 2017, 04:39 PM
I love Woody Harrelson but I don't think he's a good fit for a SW movie. ive got a bad feeling about this film.  :D
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on January 11, 2017, 09:31 PM
As a cocky mentor to a cocky hotshot smuggler/pilot?  I think he'll fit right in. I just keep thinking of his character from Zombieland. :)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on January 11, 2017, 11:32 PM
Yeah, this is going to be fun.  :)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on January 11, 2017, 11:42 PM
I like a lot of what Woody Harrelson has been doing over his career.  His role on True Detective alone was fantastic.  I'm interested to see what he's going to bring to this project.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: JediJman on January 12, 2017, 09:21 AM
I agree.  I think he's come along way from the Cheers bartender.  My only reservation is that I prefer most characters to be somewhat unknown, so I don't bring some notion of a previous character to what I see in SW. 
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on January 31, 2017, 10:13 AM
As posted by co-director Chris Miller on Twitter, principle photography on the Han Solo standalone film has begun (https://twitter.com/chrizmillr/status/826099940254502915).
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on February 21, 2017, 12:26 PM
HAN SOLO – SMUGGLER. SCOUNDREL. HERO. A NEW STAR WARS STORY BEGINS (http://www.starwars.com/news/han-solo-smuggler-scoundrel-hero-new-star-wars-story-begins)

STRAP YOURSELF IN. PRINCIPAL PHOTOGRAPHY ON THE UNTITLED HAN SOLO STAR WARS STORY IS UNDER WAY.
Cameras are rolling on the adventure-filled past of the iconic scoundrel and everyone’s favorite Wookiee; principal photography on the untitled Han Solo Star Wars Story officially began February 20 at Pinewood Studios, London.

The movie will explore the duo’s adventures before the events of Star Wars: A New Hope, including their early encounters with that other card-playing rogue from a galaxy far, far away, Lando Calrissian.

Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are directors co-piloting the movie, with a cast that includes Alden Ehrenreich as Han Solo, Woody Harrelson, Emilia Clarke, Donald Glover as Lando Calrissian, Thandie Newton, and Phoebe Waller-Bridge, with Joonas Suotamo as Chewbacca.

“Watching such inspired people from all over the world, with such unique voices, come together for the sole purpose of making art, is nothing short of miraculous,” Lord and Miller said. “We can’t think of anything funny to say, because we just feel really moved, and really lucky.”

(http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2017/02/han-solo-cast-photo-1024x683.jpg)

Written by Lawrence and Jon Kasdan, it will be produced by Kathleen Kennedy, Allison Shearmur, Simon Emanuel, and co-produced by Kiri Hart, Susan Towner, and Will Allegra. Lawrence Kasdan and Jason McGatlin will executive produce.

Crewing the ship will be some of the industry’s top talent, including Academy Award nominee for his work on Arrival, Bradford Young (Director of Photography), Chris Dickens (Editor), Dominic Tuohy (SFX Supervisor), Rob Bredow (VFX Supervisor) and Brad Allan (Action Designer).

They will be joining returning Star Wars veteran crew members Neal Scanlan (Creature & Droid FX Creative Supervisor), Neil Lamont (Production Designer), Dave Crossman and Glyn Dillon (Co-Costume Designers), Jamie Wilkinson (Prop Master), Lisa Tomblin (Hair), Amanda Knight (Make-Up) and Nina Gold (UK Casting Director).

The untitled Han Solo Star Wars Story is slated for release on May 25, 2018.

Punch it.

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STAR WARS RETURNS TO MAY THEATRICAL RELEASES!

The untitled Han Solo Star Wars Story is slated for release on May 25, 2018.


Unfortunately, it looks like Peter Mayhew will not be along for the ride this time.   :(
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on March 23, 2017, 04:30 PM
Disney chief reveals new details on upcoming Star Wars films (http://mashable.com/2017/03/23/luke-han-last-jedi)

Quote
As for the young Han Solo movie, Iger revealed that the film will follow Alden Ehrenreich's smuggler hero all the way through his late teenage years and into his twenties. It's an origin story that will include Han and Chewbacca's very first meeting:

"Han Solo movie will follow him from age 18 through 24 and show him finding the Falcon, meeting Chewbacca, and getting his name, Iger says" -@benfritz

That time scale represents a departure for a Star Wars film; except for that brief prologue in Rogue One, none of the previous movies have covered more than a few days or weeks of action.

The "getting his name" part is a jaw-dropper, too. So far as we've always known, Han Solo is the smuggler's given name. And lest you think this is a misreported quote, Variety confirmed what Iger said: "You’ll also discover how he got his name."

How he got his name? 

Please, please, please don't ruin Han Solo, Disney.  Please don't make him give himself the last name Solo because he wants/likes to be alone or some crap.  :-\
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Diddly on March 23, 2017, 05:00 PM
Hopefully the answer winds up being "he was born with it" and Iger is just trying to incite nerdrage here
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on March 23, 2017, 05:14 PM
Hans Olo
Han Kenobi
Han Dodonna
Han Palpatine
Han Madine
Han Snoke
Han Rieekan
Han McQuarrie
Han Tarkin
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on March 23, 2017, 06:03 PM
I'm downgrading my cautious optimism to 'We survived TPM and we'll survive this.'

I don't know. I don't care for any of this, really. The mystery of these characters is part of their appeal. I think a Han Solo movie where he's just having adventures and we get scraps of info about his past is really all I need.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 23, 2017, 06:59 PM
I am really hoping this is just an "adventure" movie with no jabba the hutt is actually Han's niece stuff
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on March 23, 2017, 08:41 PM
Uhm yeah basically same here...  "how he got his name" is not a good thing.  He got his name because his friggin parents gave it to him, and that's all there needs to be said of it.   >:(
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on March 23, 2017, 08:43 PM
In other news, Woody Harrelson spilled the beans on his character's name/place...  He's a "criminal" and mentor (knew the latter) and he gave his name.  Apparently that was all he's allowed to say.  He spilled it on the Jimmy Fallon show so if you can accept some fake laughing/nervousness it's on videos a google search will easily find.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on March 23, 2017, 11:53 PM
I hope the name change for Han is not a major plot point and not something stupid.  I'm hoping its a thirty second thing, like his name was Bob Duet when he was a Imperial Naval Cadet and busted Chewie out he became a wanted man, so he needed to change his name to help avoid being caught and that's what his astromech randomly generated.  He shrugs and moves on.

I thought Lucas did a great job with young Indy in The Last Crusade where he developed his fear of snakes and got his chin scar.  If its something kind of intentionally hokey like that it might be fun.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on March 24, 2017, 08:22 AM
Nice of Iger to give that exclusive interview to his wife, LOL! 

I figure there's going to be some panel discussion about the Han Solo film at Celebration, but it's probably going to be quite limited.

I saw the news about Woody Harrelson revealing his character's name.  And that one is straight out of the old school EU.  Beyond that?  I wonder if this movie is going to acknowledge any of the past EU story points or just chart it's own course.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: JediJman on March 24, 2017, 11:54 AM
I bet his name is a major plot point.  Like in Better Call Saul when they reveal he has a different name, but keeps saying "it's all good" - "It Saul Good."  Such hilarity and brilliance.  Like maybe he's down on his luck and has to beg for hand outs, so he becomes Hand So Low - Han Solo!  Is' so terrific and amazing.  Way better than just letting someone have a given name.

 ::)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Ben on March 31, 2017, 04:43 PM
I'm hoping Mr. Iger just misspoke and it's how Han MADE a name for himself by being the best smuggler, as Jabba said he was in ANH.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on June 20, 2017, 07:39 PM
Um. Wow.

http://www.starwars.com/news/a-message-from-lucasfilm-regarding-the-untitled-han-solo-film
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 20, 2017, 09:05 PM
I'VE GOT A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS.

And now I get the message of the whole "We Shot First" t-shirt.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 21, 2017, 10:26 AM
This Hollywood Reporter article (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-why-han-solo-movie-directors-were-fired-1015474) seems to make it clear that the vision of Phil Lord and Chris Miller was significantly different from that of screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan.  And in this power struggle it seems that Kathleen Kennedy backed Kasdan's vision of the character.  Kasdan's screenplay depicted Han Solo much in the same way he was played in the OT:  sarcastic and self-centered.  The Miller & Lord version is being characterized as potentially too comedic of a take on the character.  And the directing team seems like they were caught off-guard by their dismissal from the show.

Names that are currently being considered to replace Lord and Miller?  Ron Howard, for one.  And Joe Johnston seems to be in the running, too.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 21, 2017, 11:37 AM
I like Ron Howard as a director, but I don't think he's a good fit here.  Maybe they should get Gareth Edwards again.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 21, 2017, 11:38 AM
Seems like the directors were trying to make Han Solo out to be Starlord.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: EdSolo on June 21, 2017, 01:56 PM
I am waiting for the inevitable release date change to December 2018.  Personally, I think that is the best thing for Disney.  They have ruled the past two Decembers and will likely do so again at the end of this year.  They might as well keep the trend going rather than step all over their other franchises in the summer.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 22, 2017, 07:30 AM
From what I've read, Ron Howard and Kathleen Kennedy are pretty good friends who have worked together in the past.  Which could put him in a position to take on the project.  Likewise, Joe Johnston has the history with Lucasfilm and Star Wars.  Looking at their IMDB pages it seems like both of them have projects in development, but nothing that's currently in production.  That could mean that they might be available to take over the Han Solo film.

I had also thought "Why not bring in Gareth Edwards"?  But as this story has been unfolding, I've also been learning that when it came to the significant reshoots that were undertaken for ROGUE ONE, Lucasfilm brought in Tony Gilroy to take over that end of the project from Edwards.  And while I think many people found ROGUE ONE to be a great take on Star Wars, perhaps it wasn't the greatest experience for its director.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 22, 2017, 10:38 AM
VARIETY:  Ron Howard to Take Over as Director of ‘Star Wars’ Han Solo Spinoff (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/star-wars-han-solo-ron-howard-director-1202474294/)


JUNE 22, 2017 | 07:25AM PT
Oscar-winning filmmaker Ron Howard will take over as director of the “Star Wars” Han Solo spinoff, Lucasfilm announced.

His hire comes after the movie’s original directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller were fired Tuesday, while in the middle of production after clashing with producer and Lucasfilm chief Kathleen Kennedy and co-writer/executive producer Lawrence Kasdan. The duo, who had previously overseen “The LEGO Movie” and “21 Jump Street,” wanted to inject more humor into the storyline and encouraged improvisation, something Kasdan did not appreciate.

Howard will begin work immediately. The picture still has several weeks left on its shooting schedule, and five additional weeks of pre-scheduled reshoots that were planned for later this year. The exact amount of time and money that it will take to actually complete the production (which was about three-quarters finished when the directors were fired), will vary depending on how much rewriting and reshooting Howard deems is necessary after reviewing the script and shot footage.

It is unclear just how Howard will be credited and whether he will share directing credit with Lord and Miller, or potentially take no credit at all (though that seems unlikely). Lord and Miller have the right to appeal any decision, but ultimately, the Directors Guild of America will make the call.

Howard previously worked with Lucasfilm  on 1988’s “Willow,” a fantasy adventure that garnered two technical Ocscar nominations (visual effects and sound editing) but was a box office disappointment. Howard’s credits also include hits such as “Parenthood,” “Splash,” “Backdraft,” “The Da Vinci Code,” “Apollo 13” and  2001’s “A Beautiful Mind,” about the brilliant, anti-social mathematician John Nash, which won four top Academy Awards including best director and best picture.

These days, however, the former child actor is in need of a big hit. He’s had a string of duds that include “Inferno,” “In the Heart of the Sea,” “Rush,” and “The Dilemma.” His last significant success was 2009’s “Angels & Demons.”
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on June 26, 2017, 09:36 AM
I guess that Willow sequel is being delayed yet again. :'(
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 26, 2017, 08:19 PM
I guess that Willow sequel is being delayed yet again. :'(

Warwick Davis just can't catch a break (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW6VenOC2Fw), can he?


Meanwhile, at the Hall of Justice... er, at Pinewood Studios....

'Star Wars' Firing Reveals a Disturbance in the Franchise (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-han-solo-movie-firing-new-details-behind-phil-lord-chris-miller-exit-1016619).  The short version?  Miller and Lord seem to have been totally out of their depth on this production.

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on June 27, 2017, 10:59 AM
I feel like I should say this again...

Please, please, please don't ruin Han Solo, Disney.

If things were as out of control as the article Nick linked says, I guess I'm glad that KK stepped in when she did.  Sounds like the Lord/Miller improv, easy going style didn't mesh with Disney/LFL studio machine...  also really disappointing to hear about all the acting/coaching issues with Han Solo guy.

It's pretty nice that KK has a direct link to the Spielberg/Amblin pipeline so she could get someone like Ron Howard in there to get stability back.  Does highlight how bad things were that she had to bring in Ron Howard... but at least it's not bad enough to have to ask Spielberg himself to step in and take over. :P
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on October 17, 2017, 12:15 PM
Principle photography has wrapped, and director Ron Howard has this message for fans (https://twitter.com/RealRonHoward/status/920320502320771073).  We also have a title:

SOLO - A Star Wars Story
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Scockery on October 17, 2017, 11:58 PM
That's so low...so low...
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: McMetal on October 19, 2017, 08:08 AM
This is definitely shaping up to be the worst Star Wars movie ever.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 20, 2017, 10:26 AM
This is definitely shaping up to be the worst Star Wars movie ever.

With all the behind the scenes drama, you may be right....even if they make this movie great, the fact still remains that this is a movie that very few actually wanted.  We've already got a young Han Solo movie....it's called Star Wars!

Kathleen Kennedy and company are missing a huge opportunity to tell stories about the larger Star Wars universe.  Give me a remake of The Seven Samurai made up of a group of Jedi that survived Order 66!  Option my friend's story about the crew of the Star Destroyer Avenger who mutiny against the Empire after Vader kills Captain Needa!  Stop writing stories about the main characters.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on October 20, 2017, 12:21 PM
I'm going to reserve judgement until I see the movie. 

Ron Howard got handed a pretty challenging project.  He wasn't in there from the pre-production phase, and had to pick up the pieces while the movie was already in principle photography.  And he's dealing with the backstory of one of the most beloved characters in the past 40 years of film, and we already know a good deal about Han Solo.

Where I have some optimism?  Ron Howard's ability to get you invested in the story of a character that you may already know something about.  People knew that NASA's Apollo 13 mission was a near disaster, but the crew got home safely.  Yet, Ron Howard was still able to get people emotionally invested in that story.  And when Cinderella Man came out?  That film came out in 2005, and the audience was fully capable of googling Jim Braddock and learning the details of his career as a professional boxer.  But through solid storytelling and some excellent actors, Ron Howard brought us an excellent film.

In some of the images that have been shared on social media, things look right.  And it seems like he's gotten into some of the lore.  It looks like we get more insight into Chewbacca's backstory.  I've seen hints of Kessel.  And now RH is even teasing the inclusion of Tag & Bink.  All of that plus an interesting cast have got me hopeful for this movie.

Plus, where will the Clint Howard cameo pop up?  Star Trek/Star Wars crossover?

(http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/e5cbe2ba969452d63fa0ee0116d39b612cb540c7.jpg)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on October 20, 2017, 01:00 PM
I remain cautiously optimistic on it. This is the movie that was least necessary, and I don't know that anything will change that. There was a clear need from the get go of this run to make movies around the most recognizable aspects of the universe, which is understandable. We all want to branch out though and you get the sense here and there from Rian Johnson and JJ Abrams that the franchise will as it goes forward. It will have to, if there's going to be endless SW movies.

I think Ron Howard is doing everything he can to make the movie work, and engage the fans. Considering he came in cold, and apparently, reshot most of the movie, that's amazing.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on October 20, 2017, 01:17 PM
There was a clear need from the get go of this run to make movies around the most recognizable aspects of the universe, which is understandable.

Yeah, to me its like the super-hero movies.  You're going to get Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman movies before  Aquaman and Martian Manhunter movies.  You are going to get your Captain America, Iron Man, Spider-Man movies before Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy.

A Han movie was probably the least needed/wanted in a lot of ways, but it's probably the safest in some ways.  (Especially since it's the only way to keep cashing in on Han Solo after he got killed in TFA).  I won't be surprised if they are planning Boba Fett, Yoda, Obi-Wan, or Vader movies before we get a Rogue Squadron movie or Magnificent Seven Samurai Jedi style movie.

Like Nick and Darby, I'm going to wait to judge it until after I see it.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on October 20, 2017, 01:44 PM
And now RH is even teasing the inclusion of Tag & Bink. 

Is that those Imperial Officers are supposed to be?  If so, that's cool, but one of them just doesn't look right.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on October 20, 2017, 08:16 PM
I go into no SW film with anything but some anticipation and little expectation. 

TPM is ass and doesn't hold up well, nor does AOTC, but both have elements I like too.  I learned from those two movies to temper my expectations of a new SW film and just enjoy myself and the films for what they are. 

I know if I go in with my wide eyed 1999 attitude, I could be disappointed.  At the same time there was a lot of "Rogue One is gonna suck!" going on with certain sites and I didn't buy that tripe and it ranks with ANH and ESB to me.  Better than ROTJ in ways.  TFA gets a lot of **** and while the era is never as good to me as the OT, I still liked it as much as ROTS and even a little more.  Every new movie has so many new possible outcomes because of the new way of things, I don't think any of them can be judged early.

After the TLJ trailer drop I saw lots of judgment being thrown, and I just don't agree on the pre hate for a film not out.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on October 21, 2017, 11:25 AM
I've never been disappointed watching a SW movie in the theater. I didn't hate TPM, or any of them. I have severe problems with a few of them (all documented somewhere here on JD I'm sure), but that generally is something I can separate from my enjoyment of the overall movie. Time and distance factor a lot for me. TPM has aged well; it ages better in contrast to the sequel films. The more of an echo chamber the new films become, the more idiosyncratic and iconic TPM becomes, at least in its design and production choices. It will always fall down flat on some story beats. AOTC has aged the worst. In the moment, it felt like the perfect tonic to the staid TPM. That glossed over the fact the movie is a barely held together jumble of two very different movies, neither of which is very good. ROTS worked from the start. TFA gets better for me, but Starkiller Base gets worse. RO has serious structural issues, but that last 45 minutes? Wow. TLJ I'm excited for, Solo kind of. I'm prepared to be floored or disappointed by both.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on October 21, 2017, 02:38 PM
One issue I have with TFA is how characters' fates are left open.  Maz: she hands Finn the lightsaber and disappears.  A simple, it's time for me to leave would have sufficed.  Phasma: isn't she in the trash compactor still when StarkillerBase Base went nova?  Yeah, I know, the new boom or comic explains it, but the average viewer will be stumped when she shows up in TLJ... unless there's an explanation in there.  Kylo?  Last we saw he was laying in the snow on StarkillerBase.  Do they have transponders?  I don't think Hux (who also conveniently cowarded away but at least it was explained) would have bothered picking up the man he's at odds with).  Even in the beginning with Poe.  Not in the TIE, but he escaped Jakku sand shows up later with no explanation of how he got off a planet that had full FO attention.

These are just little things but legitimate concerns that could have made the movie more solid.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on October 22, 2017, 05:11 PM
Now that you bring it up, that is a very odd feature of TFA. I'll say it didn't occur to me really; would have been nice to see a small scene with Phasma indicating she's alive. Maybe she's in the shuttle when Hux and Kylo bolt.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Scockery on November 1, 2017, 03:03 PM
Ron Howard Reshot Nearly all of Solo for twice the budget. (https://screenrant.com/han-solo-ron-howard-reshoots-budget/)

If this films flop they'll put a price on Ron's head so big that he won't be able to film a youtube reaction video.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 1, 2017, 04:15 PM
I highly doubt the film will flop.


Doesn't mean I'm super excited to see it.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 29, 2017, 12:24 PM
Our local theater has the promotional poster for Solo: A Star Wars Story and it says opening May 25th.

So they aren’t pushing it back to December?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on December 29, 2017, 12:27 PM
I saw some reports that the supposedly "leaked" promo art was bogus.  Hmmm...
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on December 29, 2017, 03:11 PM
I'm more excited to see this anthology movies than the trilogy stuff. The whole Star Wars thing every year takes the specialness away from it. At least we can get new original stories this way. Of course the neck beard fan boys will hate it.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Scockery on December 29, 2017, 05:23 PM
We are still using Neck Beard as the description for fanboys we think we are better than? (I always picture that Jon Tron guy) What was the neck beard consensus on these recent three movies? I was never sure.  There was general audience love for Force Awakens, fanboy split. Then Rogue One seemed to be a fanboy split, general audience mixed reactions (including it was boring...). Now The Last Jedi is the same as Rogue One on a larger scale...with some denying that there's general audience dissatisfaction with the film. All the negativity is a small group of bitter fanboys! (I don't think so...)

At the Last Jedi showing there was a local Silent Bob wannabe looking guy there. Why are you wearing a backwards cap in subzero weather...to go see a movie?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on January 16, 2018, 03:04 PM
Not sure of everyone's "spoiler" level, so I'll put this in here to be safe:


OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS FOR SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY REVEALED (http://www.starwars.com/news/official-synopsis-for-solo-a-star-wars-story-revealed) @ StarWars.com

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Here’s where the fun begins.

The official synopsis for Solo: A Star Wars Story was revealed today, offering some new details on the upcoming film. Read it below:

Board the Millennium Falcon and journey to a galaxy far, far away in Solo: A Star Wars Story, an all-new adventure with the most beloved scoundrel in the galaxy. Through a series of daring escapades deep within a dark and dangerous criminal underworld, Han Solo meets his mighty future copilot Chewbacca and encounters the notorious gambler Lando Calrissian, in a journey that will set the course of one of the Star Wars saga’s most unlikely heroes.

While not much else is known about the film, director Ron Howard has documented his experience making Solo: A Star Wars Story on Twitter and Instagram throughout production — with everything from set photos to shots of his morning coffee. StarWars.com has compiled all of his updates in one post, which you can view here (http://www.starwars.com/news/here-are-all-of-ron-howards-twitter-and-instagram-updates-on-the-untitled-han-solo-film).

Solo: A Star Wars Story is slated for release on May 25, 2018.


I've read it twice and I'm not sure what "new details" they think are in there... since Chewbacca, the Falcon, and Lando and the rest were pretty common knowledge I thought?  :P
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Scockery on January 16, 2018, 03:38 PM
I shouldn't have looked. Movie ruined. All-new adventure?  I was expecting a clip show.

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: EdSolo on January 16, 2018, 03:46 PM
The militant Legends fans are going to lose their minds.

What I expected to see in this movie is pretty much in the synopsis.  How Han and Chewie meet and how Han wins the Falcon from Lando.

In the old EU, we had the whole concept of the life debt as Han saved Chewie from Imperial slavery.  I doubt they are going to go that route, and I really won't be surprised if they dump the whole life debt concept.

I would hope to see the Kessel run to tie this into ANH a bit and how Han came into debt with Jabba.

I really don't have the highest of expectations for this one.  I do hope it gets pushed back to December.  I think it has a better chance than it would in May.  I can't understand why Disney didn't put it there in the first place.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on January 16, 2018, 05:01 PM
I was always under the impression the debt to Janna was recent and this seems quite distant from ANH...  but I mean yeah none of that seems like it is earth shattering.  I’m fine with this either way.  If it sucks I’ll ignore it. 
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on January 16, 2018, 06:19 PM
I hope meeting Chewie, meeting Lando, winning the Falcon, the Kessell Run, and all that Legacy lore is a minor point to the movie or at least handled in a way where it doesn't feel like they're just checking all the boxes.  I don't want to see 120 minutes of Han history neatly explained when they could devote all 120 minutes to crafting a fun story.

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Diddly on January 16, 2018, 11:04 PM
Did anyone else see the the leaked LEGO sets for Solo? The Falcon is completely different, which I guess plays into Han's "special modifications" line. And the name for Emilia Clarke's character is Qi'Ra (taken from Kira, the initial name for Rey). And there's probably something involving Han at the Imperial Academy since the TIE Fighter includes Han in an officer suit.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Muftak on January 17, 2018, 10:49 AM
I hope meeting Chewie, meeting Lando, winning the Falcon, the Kessell Run, and all that Legacy lore is a minor point to the movie or at least handled in a way where it doesn't feel like they're just checking all the boxes.  I don't want to see 120 minutes of Han history neatly explained when they could devote all 120 minutes to crafting a fun story.

I agree 100% with this. The last ten minutes of Rogue One was a blast, but it felt sort of pertinent to the story and how it dovetails into the original film. Solo does not need that, and too much of it will hurt the movie (sort of how the C-3PO/R2-D2 cameo in Rogue took me right out of what was happening.)

And don't forget they will also feel the need to:
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Scockery on January 17, 2018, 12:02 PM
Since when is there a personal beef with Fett? But, yeah, that's just what some writer would read into it, something that isn't there.

I thought the training remote was Kenobi's. The helmet is just a helmet.

The Red Letter Media guys did a video last year of all the bad Han Solo story ideas they could think of.

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on January 18, 2018, 09:34 PM
There are rumblings that Disney may have screened some of "SOLO" (https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2285022/wait-did-disney-finally-show-a-sneak-peek-of-the-upcoming-han-solo-movie) for select viewers in Europe.  It sounds promising so far.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on January 19, 2018, 11:37 PM
I was just thinking that this might be the first Star Wars movie without a lightsaber in it. 
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Scockery on January 23, 2018, 06:13 PM
I was just thinking that this might be the first Star Wars movie without a lightsaber in it.

A heavy saber will be shown instead....to subvert our expectations.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: McMetal on February 4, 2018, 07:06 PM
Wow, trailer did not suck!  :o
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 4, 2018, 07:41 PM
The trailer looks good.  I think I’d be happier if all these people were brand new characters.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on February 5, 2018, 02:44 AM
Trailer was kinda cool.

Dbaggery of asking for an Imperial recruiting kiosk "playset" imminent.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on February 5, 2018, 10:23 AM
It's definitely nice to see something at long last.  I think that LFL and Disney wanted to give this some space of its own instead of tacking it onto the whole TLJ promotional train.

The commercial last night was kind of curious, but it seemed to very deliberately be a teaser.  Still, that shot of the Star Destroyer and those TIE fighters flying through those clouds made for a stunning visual.  Even the details of the red cockpit lights in the TIE's was great to see.  And having seen the full length teaser today?  I noticed that this TIE is definitely different.  It looks similar to a standard TIE, but might have some kind of a weapons pod between the crew pod and one of the solar panels.

Some of what we saw seems to line up with this being a heist movie:  the speeder chase scenes, Han facing the guy in armor (Paul Bettany's character?), a possible gambling den, and what looked like a nightclub.

I guess we'll have to wait to see the movie to figure out where the Tag & Bink cameos will turn up.  But I was also thinking another thing:  this could be the first Star Wars film that doesn't include R2-D2 and C-3PO.  They've been in every single Star Wars movie.

Dbaggery of asking for an Imperial recruiting kiosk "playset" imminent.

LOL!
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on February 5, 2018, 10:36 AM
this could be the first Star Wars film that doesn't include R2-D2 and C-3PO.

Part of me thinks that's a nice change and needed to happen at some point, but the other part of me thinks they will shoe-horn a lightsaber and R2/3PO into the movie somehow just to keep the streak alive...


I'm still not sold on this new Solo guy, but I like everything else in the teaser and trailer.  I'm sure the haters are gonna hate on it, but I'll be there opening night for sure. :)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on February 5, 2018, 10:39 AM
I like how grungy this looks. The film looks like a lot of fun. A bit of a Soderbergh heist kind of thing that happens to take place in space. Alden Eirenrich (sp?) isn't Harrison Ford and hopefully no one expected that. It will take some getting used to the idea of him as Han, but what little we saw here didn't send me running away screaming.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on February 5, 2018, 10:50 AM
this could be the first Star Wars film that doesn't include R2-D2 and C-3PO.

Part of me thinks that's a nice change and needed to happen at some point, but the other part of me thinks they will shoe-horn a lightsaber and R2/3PO into the movie somehow just to keep the streak alive...

It does seem to be something that will need to be addressed at some point.  Either here or in the new trilogy that Rian Johnson is developing, the droids are going to have their streak end somewhere.

I have seen some rumors that Vader could turn up in the film in some capacity, but until I see anything more than a rumor I'm considering it just that, a rumor.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on February 5, 2018, 11:02 AM
I think the two trailers / commercials are well put together and look promising. 

I'm a little surprised to see so little Han in the videos, so I'm not sure if that bodes poorly for his acting or just a stylistic choice. 

Overall I'm optimistic that it will be like Rogue One - a solid movie offshoot to the existing Star Wars world.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Brian on February 5, 2018, 11:56 AM
So happy to finally get a look at this movie. Like others, my biggest hurdle is getting used to seeing someone other than Harrison Ford play the role, but I'm open minded. That being said, I'm really excited for this. Since I was a kid, my favorite parts of Star Wars have been Han, Chewie, and the Falcon (with Lando close behind), so a chance to see them on an adventure is really exciting to me (always thought it would have made a nice animated series as well).

I'm not saying necessarily this will warrant one, but I wonder if any of these "story" movies will get sequels? I know it depends on box office and all that, but I just wonder internally if they consider all if these one and dones? Looks good so far.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on February 5, 2018, 02:34 PM
Was thinking more about this -

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Part of me thinks that's a nice change and needed to happen at some point, but the other part of me thinks they will shoe-horn a lightsaber and R2/3PO into the movie somehow just to keep the streak alive...

I hope not. I think there's a strong chance we'll see Jabba and Boba Fett in this movie, which would be enough for me. I think there is an outside chance as well if the film winds up on Tatooine, we get a glimpse of Obi-Wan. Why I don't know, but given the Obi film rumors, I just have a sneaking suspicion we'll get some kind of nod to that.

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on February 5, 2018, 02:59 PM
Do we know the exact timeline of this movie - e.g. 10 years before ANH?

I wonder where the droids would be at that time?  I'm guessing it would be early, early rebellion days so the droids would largely be on Alderaan and Coruscant following Bail Organa around. 

Maybe Bail could be meeting with Obi-Wan in Mos Eisley to check in with each other and the droids could be hanging around outside.  I just hope if they wedge them in there it doesn't feel too contrived.  I thought the Rogue One cameo for the droids was fine.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on February 5, 2018, 03:03 PM
A Bail/Obi pow wow would be fun, even if it was off in a corner.

Which, I don't know how everyone else feels, I always felt Obi-Wan had met Chewie before or knew of him. I figured he was familiar enough with the cantina, and Han/Chewie were regulars.

I've read a couple stories now that the film takes place over a range of years, but no one knows. At a minimum, it seems to me Han and Lando are around 20, which would put this 10 years before ANH, and about 10 after ROTS.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on February 5, 2018, 04:15 PM
I've had a feeling that this movie was about mid-way between ROTS and ANH.  I'm curious to see where it's supposed to fall in the official timeline.

As for an Obi-Wan connection?  It would be nice to see some things get tied together, but it also seems like it could venture into that "too convenient/fan service/making the SW universe smaller" territory.  I had always gotten the sense that Obi-Wan was familiar enough with Mos Eisley as well as the Cantina based on what he told Luke.  I also got the impression that Obi-Wan initially spoke with Bo Shek, who in turn referred him to Chewbacca.  Having a connection between Chewie and Obi-Wan might come across as inauthentic as having Yoda and Chewie together on Kashyyyk in ROTS.

I'm still eager to see if Jabba comes into play.  To me, THAT could be the really big reveal for this movie, kind of like Tarkin & Vader for R1 and the duel on Crait between Kylo Ren and the Force projection of Luke in TLJ.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: I Am Sith on February 5, 2018, 04:44 PM
I'm still not sold on this new Solo guy, but I like everything else in the teaser and trailer.

Agree with you completely Jeff.  The visuals seem to be top rate and I'm sure it's going to be a fun, action-packed story.  But to me the success of this film is going to fall on them selling him as Han and the audience's acceptance of that.  If they fall short and his performance is flat or off the mark, I don't see the other aspects being able to save this film.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on February 5, 2018, 04:56 PM
Wonder if this will have Dengar in it?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on February 5, 2018, 05:09 PM
Who knows?  Maybe he's the guy on the speeder bike that gets taken out?

Another point of interest?  The dice turn up again.  This time hanging from the roll cage of Han's landspeeder.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 5, 2018, 05:51 PM
I like how grungy this looks.

Except for the Falcon.  Never thought it was ever that clean.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Muftak on February 5, 2018, 06:01 PM
I like how grungy this looks.

Except for the Falcon.  Never thought it was ever that clean.

I'm betting the Falcon is a big fake-out. The ship we keep seeing is going to be someone's well-maintained, pristine version of the freighter. Whatever ship this is, it's the one that makes Han fall in love with the YT-1300 Model (if that's still a thing), so that when the old familiar hunk-o-junk shows up (maybe even in much worse shape than we've ever seen it) Han jumps at the chance to own one, no matter the condition.

And Lando, probably having made the same conclusions since they are on this job together, has the same thing in mind and gets to it first, hence the established backstory.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on February 5, 2018, 07:35 PM
You know that's gonna happen Nick.  :)

I was watching the game but was shocked it came on the 2nd possession not the 2nd quarter like was being talked about, haha.

I thought the trailer was cool.  I though Han said some Han-y things, and I felt like it looked interesting.  I like that Chewbacca is wearing gear from the Wookiee military as seen in ROTS.  I liked that Han flips that bike and I think that might be a kind of homage to Indy flipping the German bike in The Last Crusade (maybe I'm being too wishful, but I'm sticking with it).  I liked the trailer in general.

Not sure how the Khalisi will play out and if she'll be cool or not...  Woody Harrelson is cool all the time so I'm kinda excited about him.  Their Droid comrade looks interesting.  the fact you're seeing more of the Empire is interesting to me.  The fact they're keeping Han wanting to (or completely doing it) sign up with the Empire is good. 

Not a ton to go off of there, but I'm pretty content that it looks cool at least.  I'm also not feeling like my life has been a lie all because of TLJ though, which tends to be the negative reaction I see online.  Not a ton of tempered negative reviews (and if there were I only seemed to see them here), but full on flailing on the ground tantrums is much more the reaction I see to TLJ if you didn't care for it.  ::)  And by default those same people are ******** on this already, so hey, I'm just hoping they stay the **** home already and give up the franchise.  I doubt that happens but I hope.

As toys go I'm expecting nothing cool as far as articulation goes, but I'm expecting some cool customizing 5POA fodder and some vehicles I'm down like a clown Charlie Brown to pick up. 

And if the movie is cool great.  If the movie is eh, then ok.  If the movie sucks, I'll see it once and move on with my life waiting for episode 9. 
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on February 5, 2018, 08:57 PM
Who knows?  Maybe he's the guy on the speeder bike that gets taken out?

I saw that and it's the first thing I thought of... and whether Disney would go that route.  It'd be like a bounty hunter origins story for whenever they decide to make a Fett movie.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Diddly on February 5, 2018, 10:05 PM
There's a lot to like in this trailer (trailers?). Only things I'm iffy about are Han being a grifter, Woody Harrelson with the new Disney cliche of forming a team, and another lame tentacle monster. Otherwise it felt pretty solid.

I was expecting the worst, now I'm hoping for a fun popcorn flick.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 5, 2018, 10:43 PM
When Han rolls the Falcon and smacks the TIE fighter into the wall....
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2018, 03:40 AM
When Han rolls the Falcon and smacks the TIE fighter into the wall....

I liked that.   :D

I liked the dialogue just after too.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 6, 2018, 11:43 AM
When Han rolls the Falcon and smacks the TIE fighter into the wall....

I liked that.   :D

I liked the dialogue just after too.

I'm predicting that this movie will be filled with fan service...and watch the people who hate on TLJ for not having much fan service in it hate on this one as well.   :-\
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on February 7, 2018, 11:14 AM
Check out THIS ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY ARTICLE (http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/07/solo-a-star-wars-story-pictures-deep-dive/) for more about SOLO - A STAR WARS STORY.  It has some more images that have not been seen yet in the trailers, along with a little bit of background on some of the new characters.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on February 13, 2018, 01:05 PM
More from EW:

- Ron Howard - Why the Oscar-winner joined Solo in its time of upheaval (http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/09/ron-howard-solo-a-star-wars-story/)

- Harrison Ford was a covert adviser to Solo: A Star Wars Story (http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/07/harrison-ford-solo-star-wars-story/)

- Donald Glover on charming the hell out of Solo: A Star Wars Story (http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/08/donald-glover-solo-a-star-wars-story/)

- Emilia Clarke says her Star Wars femme fatale 'has a core of steel' (http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/08/emilia-clarke-solo-a-star-wars-story/)

- Phoebe Waller-Bridge's Solo character is a self-made droid with moxie (http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/08/star-wars-solo-phoebe-waller-bridges-droid/)

- Rogue's Gallery: A lineup of three outlaws from Solo: A Star Wars Story (http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/09/solo-a-star-wars-story-woody-harrelson-thandie-newton-paul-bettany/)

- How Treasure Island, The Big Lebowski, and Heat inspired Solo: A Star Wars Story (http://ew.com/movies/2018/02/12/solo-a-star-wars-story-influences/)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: StBrianOfMinneapolis on February 26, 2018, 03:07 PM
Are there are rumors yet about a sale date for Solo tickets?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 8, 2018, 09:13 PM
The new trailer is up:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPEYpryMp2s&feature=share
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on April 8, 2018, 09:32 PM
Don't know about everyone else, but it looks GREAT.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 8, 2018, 10:36 PM
Looks cool.  This still could have worked with a bunch of characters not named Han Solo, Chewbacca and Lando Calrissian.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on April 9, 2018, 02:42 AM
Agreed it coulda worked without being Han n co but I’m liking the trailers and the era...  just generally seems fun.  Nothing super serious or anything, just fun set in Star Wars.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 9, 2018, 09:00 AM
The establishing shots were pretty interesting.  I took that as Corellia at night.  And that shot where the camera tilts up to show a Star Destroyer under construction?  Very cool!

The boots on the Range Troopers are making a whole lot more sense, too.  They're in the scene on the Conveyex, and the theories about the boots being some means of them being able to magnetically adhere to the Conveyex seem like they might be on point.

This also seems to be the first we've seen of Paul Bettany's character, Dryden Vos.  And we actually got to hear L3-L9 speak, too. 

The scenes with Han and Chewie were good stuff.  Especially the part in the Falcon where Han says "You're 190 years old?"  And was there a shot of Chewie with Mala in there, too?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: McMetal on April 9, 2018, 09:56 AM
Give us Lumpy!  :D
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Muftak on April 9, 2018, 12:42 PM
"I have a good feeling about this!"
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Brian on April 9, 2018, 02:24 PM
I know there can be a lot of negativity towards this movie, but I think it looks great so far and I can't wait. Hopefully it is a good time.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on April 9, 2018, 03:18 PM
I wonder what cameos we're going to get in this movie.

Kinda looked like L3-L9 had Dr. Evazan in a choke hold.  Is that going to be the running easter egg bit where we get Ponda Baba and Evazan in all of the anthology movies?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on April 9, 2018, 03:40 PM
I wonder what cameos we're going to get in this movie.

Last year, there were a LOT of rumors that Diego Luna filmed a Cassian cameo for Solo...   Also, I don't know if it's intentional or just a re-use of costumes, but eagle eyed folks have already started noticing (https://twitter.com/IndianaJedi/status/983172233387442178) some Rogue One/Jedha characters/costumes in Solo.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on April 9, 2018, 04:38 PM
What is the supposed timeline for this movie?  5 years before ANH?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on April 9, 2018, 04:54 PM
What is the supposed timeline for this movie?  5 years before ANH?

According to Del Ray's LFL-endorsed timeline (http://www.randomhousebooks.com/campaign/star-wars-timeline/), it takes place between the Tarkin book (14 years before ANH) and the Thrawn book (11 years before ANH).

In the early days of Solo announcements, Bob Iger had said the movie would cover a range of years, from 18-24 of Han's life.  Not sure how much of that will stick in the final movie they actually made but it kinda matches up if you say Han was 30-35 during ANH.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 10, 2018, 12:16 PM
I've got a bit of a theory about Han's story arc based on some toy reveals...

Very likely the movie will start with Han on Corellia, and Q'ira is something of a running buddy at that time.  And I'm fairly certain that it is there that he attempts to join the Imperial military (teaser trailer).  He says in the teaser that he's "going to be a pilot.  The best in the galaxy".  But he also talks about getting bounced out of the academy for having a mind of his own.  From there?  I'm thinking that following his departure from flight training he becomes a grunt, aka a Mudtrooper on Mimban.  It's there that I think he links up with Chewbacca.  Where things go from immediately from there is beyond me...
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Brian on April 11, 2018, 09:34 AM
Just watching the trailer again, and although it is only a quick glimpse (and the Denny's commercial 😉), but I really like the looks of many of the aliens seen here. Hope we see figures of many of those.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 23, 2018, 08:28 AM
I just watched the newest Forces of Destiny which features Leia, Chewbacca and R2.  And the episode revolves around Leia meeting Maz Kanata for the first time.  The general topic leaves me wondering...  Will Maz have a part to play in SOLO?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on April 23, 2018, 12:26 PM
I just watched the newest Forces of Destiny which features Leia, Chewbacca and R2.  And the episode revolves around Leia meeting Maz Kanata for the first time.  The general topic leaves me wondering...  Will Maz have a part to play in SOLO?

I just hope it makes a lot more sense than it did in TLJ where she is on a video conference with a jet pack in a labor dispute blasting away with her blaster...
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on April 24, 2018, 09:19 AM
Do you think C-3PO and R2-D2 will be in this movie? They have been in every other movie so far. Isn't that the rule?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Muftak on April 24, 2018, 09:51 AM
Do you think C-3PO and R2-D2 will be in this movie? They have been in every other movie so far. Isn't that the rule?

They have no place here. Them showing up in "Rogue One" for no reason other than "because..." seriously took me out of the movie.

If they feel they must do it, I hope it is tongue-in-cheek, like in silhouette that is ultimately revealed to be a guy in a gold lame' jumpsuit hauling around a white and blue vaccuum cleaner.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 24, 2018, 04:03 PM
I have to agree regarding the droids appearing in ROGUE ONE.  It was certainly plausible given the timeline and mission, but it did come across as if they were shoehorned into the film.  I think it probably could have been handled a bit more organically in a direct interaction with Bail Organa. 

If it does happen in SOLO?  I think that it may link back to a line from ANH where Threepio says...

"We'll be sent to the spice mines of Kessel and smashed into who knows what".  And from some of the toy releases, it seems like there may be some sort of fighting/working droids on Kessel, which figures into the movie in some way.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Muftak on April 24, 2018, 04:09 PM
I didn't even read your tiny type and I know exactly what you are referring to. If that is the case, it will almost require a whole other movie just to explain how the droids happen to get there.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 24, 2018, 04:16 PM
I didn't even read your tiny type and I know exactly what you are referring to. If that is the case, it will almost require a whole other movie just to explain how the droids happen to get there.

LOL!

Yeah, it would be shoehorning gone wild.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on April 24, 2018, 04:26 PM
Quote
I didn't even read your tiny type and I know exactly what you are referring to.

*nods*

 :)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 24, 2018, 05:18 PM
They could have Jimmy Smits walk through the background with R2-D2 and C-3P0 in tow.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 25, 2018, 07:57 AM
A clip from SOLO got shown at Cinemacon in Las Vegas yesterday.  Spoiler warnings apply (https://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-what-happens-when-han-solo-plays-to-win-the-mille-1825509272).
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on April 29, 2018, 09:55 AM
I had been kind of wondering how Han wound up hooking up with Beckett.  But based on the Topps card image of Beckett and Val in Imperial military uniforms?  Things are starting to come together about their connections.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on May 13, 2018, 06:55 PM
Based purely on the trailers alone?  I'm thinking that this movie will address the plot point from ANH about the length of the Kessel Run in terms of distance, and not time.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jayson on May 14, 2018, 11:58 AM
There are some pretty HUGE spoilers floating out there for Solo. Tread lightly.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Brian on May 14, 2018, 02:21 PM
There are some pretty HUGE spoilers floating out there for Solo. Tread lightly.

I've been steering clear of the actual spoilers, but some of the early social media reviews warned of "Infinity War" level spoilers for this movie, anxious to see what that means next week.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on May 15, 2018, 10:04 AM
I've found that most spoilers for the last three star wars movies have been 100% wrong.

Fake spoiler warning:

For example, why would Darth Maul be in this movie?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jayson on May 16, 2018, 11:06 AM
^ Not fake.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on May 16, 2018, 12:45 PM
Fake spoiler warning:

For example, why would Darth Maul be in this movie?

^ Not fake.

Local paper (Star Tribune) had this spoiler in the Solo movie review and a few co-workers mentioned it to me despite my effort to stay spoiler free.  So much for that surprise. ::) :(
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on May 16, 2018, 01:23 PM
Well, that spoiler is definitely possible (and likely given reviews).  Now it's just where in the context of the story does this logically fit in.
But given what happens in Rebels, it certainly can't be a reference to Han's ANH quote: "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 24, 2018, 11:29 PM
I thought it was fun. I'd go no more than that
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 24, 2018, 11:29 PM
I am glad I was able to stay away from spoilers for this movie, because when that scene played out and it was obvious the combination of performances at work to bring the character to life, it was the icing on the cake for me with this movie. Solo was a fun Star Wars movie, could end up being my favorite Disney-era movie so far (and I have enjoyed them all, so this is not meant to be taken as a knock on TLJ).

For me the best revelation was an explanation/nod to the scene from ESB when C-3PO is trying to communicate with the Falcon and getting frustrated. It also gives meaning to the sentiment that the Millennium Falcon IS a character.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: McMetal on May 25, 2018, 12:12 AM
I don't know where I would rank this one, but pretty far behind Rogue One I think, which seems like the best comparison being the only other standalone film to date. I didn't dislike it, but i didn't feel like it exceeded my expectations in any way, which were pretty measured going in.

I think in retrospect, there were probably too many previews because I felt like I had seen most of the movie already played out in snippets, aside from a few surprises. I thought the cast was fine, there were a couple of plot points that felt weak or a little forced, but nothing too glaring.

Well, except for THAT scene. W T F?!? I don't even know where to start with that one. It was a jarring moment that really took me out of the rest of the movie I felt like. I have a hard time wrapping my head around the reasoning behind it.

If there was a letter between B and C that would be my grade I think. I don't feel a strong desire to see this again, though I'm sure I will.

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 25, 2018, 12:18 AM
I liked most of the characters. Was fine with Han. Man crush on Donald Glover only grew. Liked Woody, Qi'ra, L3. The "scene" was whatever to me. Story was fine. Just not handled perfectly.

What's the deal with tentacled creatures in Star Wars?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on May 25, 2018, 01:48 AM
I really enjoyed that movie.  Not deep or super imaginative, but I’m with Nick, it was “fun”. 
 
My expectations were fairly moderate to low, and this met or exceeded those expectations. 

My biggest complaint with sci fi movies is usually dumb plot holes that don’t even seem relevant (my major gripe with TLJ).  This had no major holes and flowed nicely.

My only complaint was the Black Sun leader reveal at the end.  Kind of total crap, unless it factors in a later Kenobi movie or something.  Totally unnecessary.

I loved Lando, and would have liked to see a little more Han/Lando bromance.

I think I would be up for a sequel.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 25, 2018, 04:31 AM
I went into this movie with fairly low expectations and thought it was good.  As far as a stand alone film, I think Rogue One was done better, but Solo is entertaining.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 25, 2018, 07:58 AM
Have there been any announcements or rumors on a Dryden Vos figure? Or do I need to pick up the POP?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on May 25, 2018, 09:58 AM
I loved that Han shot first in this movie.

Glad to see that Disney wasn't afraid to do that with Han's character when Lucas felt it was important to revise SW to soften Han's image.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: CorranHorn on May 25, 2018, 10:21 AM
I loved that Han shot first in this movie.

Glad to see that Disney wasn't afraid to do that with Han's character when Lucas felt it was important to revise SW to soften Han's image.

This to me was the best part of the movie. It showed that Han had truly been listening to ton Beckett  all along  Very glad to see they went there.

Really enjoyed the movie, nothing glaringly wrong with it and lots of excitement all around
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: StBrianOfMinneapolis on May 25, 2018, 10:38 AM

What's the deal with tentacled creatures in Star Wars?

Yeah, that and the slew of brand new species. I was thrilled to see a few twileks, and both a rodian and Warwick Davis pull off their masks though. Nerd powers... ACTIVATE!!!

And THAT scene I'm sort of intrigues that their exploring that crime cartel storyline now that Rebels told us where it will end.

Also, was this Arrestor Cruiser in the film? I felt like the Star Destroyer in the maw was where this ship should have been, but they might have scrapped it in favor of a more recognizable Destroyer.
https://www.amazon.com/Hot-Wheels-Imperial-Starship-Vehicle/dp/B076VXX4H3/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B076VXX4H3&pd_rd_r=a1fb9675-602b-11e8-ab0b-a7cdbce3d2eb&pd_rd_w=RmwyN&pd_rd_wg=fmu9i&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3914568618330124508&pf_rd_r=N4E2FDRWWCV0AQK3DGGX&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=N4E2FDRWWCV0AQK3DGGX
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on May 25, 2018, 11:01 AM
Anybody catch "cameos" of previously seen characters from other movies?  Other than the reveal at the end, the only one that I caught was Endrio Two Tubes.

I'm taking the family tonight (which will be my second watching) and will be on the lookout for some of these smaller details.

Glad to see Ron Howard found a way to work his brother in to this movie.  I love how he does that with every one of his movies.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: StBrianOfMinneapolis on May 25, 2018, 11:39 AM
Anybody catch "cameos" of previously seen characters from other movies?  Other than the reveal at the end, the only one that I caught was Endrio Two Tubes.

I'm taking the family tonight (which will be my second watching) and will be on the lookout for some of these smaller details.

Glad to see Ron Howard found a way to work his brother in to this movie.  I love how he does that with every one of his movies.

Yeah, Two Tubes, mentions of Bossk and Aurra Sing.

I didn't know anything about Ron Howard's brother, but I do recognize him now. Whe/where was he in Solo?
I can't tell if this photo was actually him...
https://movieweb.com/solo-star-wars-story-clint-howard-character-photo/
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 25, 2018, 11:50 AM
He was the guy running the Droid fight
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on May 25, 2018, 12:29 PM
My only complaint was the Black Sun leader reveal at the end.  Kind of total crap, unless it factors in a later Kenobi movie or something.  Totally unnecessary.

It worked for me.  In TCW, he was trying to unite the various underworld factions to fight the Republic and Separatists, makes sense that he'd try to start one himself after it fell apart.

I loved that Han shot first in this movie.

Ditto. :)

Have there been any announcements or rumors on a Dryden Vos figure? Or do I need to pick up the POP?

3.75" 5POA - Force Link 2.0 Solo Figure – “Hades Joker” – Dryden Vos (rumored for Wave 4 or 5)

I don't think there has been a 6" rumor/brickseek find yet...
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 25, 2018, 12:42 PM
Thanks Jeff.

And I loved he shot first. Both as a call back but also showing his growth as he learned from Tobias
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 25, 2018, 12:45 PM
I'm dieing to hear your thoughts on Han, Jeff.

Figure you'd have high standards but also rational as well
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on May 25, 2018, 01:19 PM
Thinking about the toys that have been released and announced, I think Hasbro has done a fairly good job of hitting the mark on key items from the movie.

Moloch and the Range Trooper have incredibly small roles in the movie, so I'm a little surprised they got made early on, but I guess if they're trying to sprinkle in main characters with oddballs through four waves its maybe not all bad.  The Range Trooper certainly looks cool though.

I'm know we're supposed to get Tobias Becket, Rio Durant, Dryden Vos, Val, the Kessel commander alien, but I would also like to get a few of Enfys' goons and I like Vos' security guys too.   It'd be fun to get Moloch's "dogs" too.

Hopefully Disney or EE will make a droid pack too with all the random droids from Kessel.

There weren't a whole lot of new vehicles that haven't already been made yet either.  I'm not sure there is anything else that I feel is needed.  I probably wouldn't argue with some swoops with Enfys' goons, but we've got 10 speeders over the years and I don't need to have more.  Moloch's speeder is an option, but again something I'm not super interested in.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on May 25, 2018, 01:38 PM
The more I think about this movie the more I really enjoyed it.  It wasn't five stars awesome, but solid.

I think my biggest fear going in to the movie was that they were going to spend half the movie telling all the backstory elements (how Han won the Falcon in a game of Sabaac, how Han met Chewie, the Kessel run, how Han got kicked out of the Imperial Academy, etc.) and mess up the movie as a result.  I am mostly satisfied with how they managed to work these in.  None were too time consuming or pointless, and I love how they basically just had Han say he got kicked out of the Academy for having independent thought.  End of story and perfect.

The one thing that I'm not super clear on (I'll be interested to see if this is expanded on in books or comics) is why Chewie stayed with Han instead of staying with the Wookiees, or why the Wookiees didn't leave with Chewie and Han.  There was no "life debt" type moment in the movie, or if they attempted to portray that it wasn't clear.  I figured after the Kessel job was done and they got paid that Chewie would go his own way to find his tribe/family.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jeff on May 25, 2018, 01:45 PM
It'd be fun to get Moloch's "dogs" too.

Coming in a 2-pack with Moloch's henchman Rebolt - click for bigger pic

(https://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Product_Launch_Events/Solo:_A_Star_Wars_Story_2018/Hasbro/Press_Images/Solo_-_3.75-inch_Line/Multi-Packs/Figure_2-Packs/tn_hasbro_solo_375inch_2pack_rebolt_hound.jpg) (https://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Product_Launch_Events/Solo:_A_Star_Wars_Story_2018/Hasbro/Press_Images/Solo_-_3.75-inch_Line/Multi-Packs/Figure_2-Packs/hasbro_solo_375inch_2pack_rebolt_hound.jpg)


Hopefully Disney or EE will make a droid pack too with all the random droids from Kessel.

One of the Kessel astromech droids is in the Solo Droid Factory 4-pack, but I'd love to see some of  the others too.  Disney's got some wind-up fighting droids already (https://www.disneystore.co.uk/solo-a-star-wars-story-wind-up-fight-droids-461088552537.html), rumors they will join the 3.75" droid factoy line eventually too. 


I figured after the Kessel job was done and they got paid that Chewie would go his own way to find his tribe/family.

Yeah, I'm guessing you'll get that fleshed out in comics or the books or even the sequel - Solo 2: The Search for Lumpy!


I'm dieing to hear your thoughts on Han, Jeff.

I'm seeing the movie again tomorrow, maybe I'll type something up after that.  Overall, I really liked it.  It's hard for me to rank it against Rogue One since they were two very different types of movies and your love of one over the other probably depends on how much you rank all out space/ground battles.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: JediJman on May 25, 2018, 01:58 PM
I liked it!  It was not Rogue One, but it was solid and entertaining.  I liked that they kept some of the "Legends" backstory for Han (Sabaac Cards, Imperials, meeting Chewie, etc.) and it was a nice origin piece for him, Chewie, Lando, and others.  I liked the way he was portrayed as reckless, confident, and a quick study.  Also really enjoyed the attempt to tie together all kinds of other things from the SW universe.  Little bits like the mentions of Aurra and Bossk go a long way for me, and then obviously other larger reveals.  Even the interactions between Han and Lando were a nice match to how we see them in Empire.  I kept away from spoilers, so the stuff at the end was an interesting surprise.  I definitely would not have liked it as much if I'd already known some of that was coming. 

What I liked most about this movie was the dichotomy between Han's optimistic younger self and the older, more worried version we get in the OTC.  The "I have a good feeling about this" line pretty much sums it up.  It's interesting how desperate he is to build connections (Going back for Qi'ra, joining up with Beckett's gang, instant friends with Chewie, etc.) versus how reluctant he is to be tied down to anything later in life.  I thought it added a lot to his overall character arch throughout the movies.

Stuff I didn't like was pretty minor.  It did feel slow to me at times.  I don't mind a break in the action, but it was kind of meaningless breaks for the most part.  I want that gut wrenching scene of Luke feeling trapped on Tatooine watching the sunset with the powerful John Williams score.  I also didn't like how fast characters recovered from tragedy.  I don't want to include spoilers, but when things go very bad, usually characters are upset for more than 10 seconds.  Luke's obviously upset when his aunt and uncle are killed or Ben dies...didn't get the same feeling here when things went bad, and it just makes it harder to empathize with the characters.  I felt the same way with Thor Ragnarok, so probably just my own issue.

Its definitely set up for a part 2 if they want to go that route.  I'd give it a solid 7 out of 10.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Brian on May 25, 2018, 05:42 PM
We saw it this morning, and I really, really liked it. I've said it before, but I will freely admit that I'm an easy mark for these movies. I had my trepidations about a non-Ford Solo as well, but all in all I thought Ehrenreich did a good job. I thought the movie really picked up once he got past the "early years" portion, and there were a lot of great moments throughout. I've seen the word "fun", used a lot to describe this, and I would agree 100 percent. It was a much lighter movie overall than what we've seen lately, and I personally couldn't wait to see a sequel once it was over. I have to admit, I didn't see the "surprise" character coming, and it was totally unexpected to me. I'd like to see it a few more times to soak it all in, but overall I thought it was great.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Diddly on May 26, 2018, 11:55 AM
Saw it last night... I'm undecided. Thumbs in the middle leaning towards down for now. I'll probably see it a second time at least. There were parts I really enjoyed and parts that made me roll my eyes so fast I almost passed out. Mostly the typical Hollywood cliches during the Lord and Miller portions.

Donald Glover was AWESOME as Lando, and there were actually points where I thought it actually was Billy Dee. I thought Alden was good too; he wasn't trying to play Harrison Ford, rather just trying to play the character Han, if that makes sense.

Lady Proxima was so, so bad. Literally the worst Star Wars character ever!
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on May 26, 2018, 01:10 PM
I saw Solo a Star Wars story last night. I enjoyed it. It was good solid western with lots of action and twists. You see growth in the solo character and his growing friendship with Chewie. I like how he starts out very optimistic and how he learns to be a smuggler and pull of heists. It's not an epic movie like the trilogies so  that was refreshing. I'd prefer smaller one off Star Wars movies.  It was a good solid movie that was fun and cleaver. It even had a good FU to Lucas at the end regarding who shot first. Lando and his droid co-pilot definitely stole the show. It was cool to see the Falcon all clean and the little changes Lando to it. The movie is worth seeing regardless of the internet trolls that think its hip to hate all things Star Wars. Ron Howard did a great job pulling this movie off.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on May 26, 2018, 01:11 PM
Lady Proxima was so, so bad. Literally the worst Star Wars character ever!

I hoping they make a Lady Proxima. It was so cheesy and muppetiy it was great!
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on May 27, 2018, 09:09 AM
There was something very 'Dark Crystal' about Lady Proxima.  And I say that in a positive way.

I think the opening was interesting.  Clearly the crawl is reserved for the Skywalker saga films.  The text at the beginning was a departure, but it did communicate what we needed to see before diving into the opening scenes on Corellia.

I also appreciated some of the connecting tissue between this movie and character and events or characters from others.  Discussing the possibility of bringing Bossk on as a crew member prior to the Conveyex heist?  Or what about the talk of Beckett possibly dispatching Aurra Sing?  I wasn't able to pick out the Tag & Bink cameos, but that's going to be an easter egg hunt, for sure!  The measurement of the Kessel Run also makes more sense in light of how that unfolded, too.

And then there's L3 and the upload of her data to the Falcon's computer.  All of a sudden some things come clearly into focus, like when C-3PO commented to Han in TESB:  "Sir, I don't know where your ship learned to communicate, but it has the most peculiar dialect."   And considering Lando's attachment to L3?  Now a line like "What have you done to my ship?" in EMPIRE takes on a whole new dimension.  Then there's the whole shooting first bit.  Han knew that Beckett was going to betray him, as much as it shocked Chewie to see him do it.  I think Han learned more from that Dejarik lesson than Chewbacca did.

As for the cameo at the end?  I think if anyone paid attention to that character's story arc in CLONE WARS, his position makes a lot of sense.  And while he seemed to fall from grace somewhere between the events of SOLO and his return on REBELS, he is in circulation.

I was also pretty surprised about how the Sabacc games panned out.  I was fully expecting Han to win the game on Vandor.  But when Lando cheated and cleaned Han out, I was surprised, even if there was all of this footage online showing Lando and L3 piloting the Falcon.  Having the film wrap up with a rematch was a good way to close things out.  And funny enough, that overhead tracking shot on the jungle planet looked curiously like the teaser for ROGUE ONE that was only shown at Celebration.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Deke Starkiller on May 29, 2018, 09:30 AM

What's the deal with tentacled creatures in Star Wars?

Yeah, that and the slew of brand new species. I was thrilled to see a few twileks, and both a rodian and Warwick Davis pull off their masks though. Nerd powers... ACTIVATE!!!

And THAT scene I'm sort of intrigues that their exploring that crime cartel storyline now that Rebels told us where it will end.

Also, was this Arrestor Cruiser in the film? I felt like the Star Destroyer in the maw was where this ship should have been, but they might have scrapped it in favor of a more recognizable Destroyer.
https://www.amazon.com/Hot-Wheels-Imperial-Starship-Vehicle/dp/B076VXX4H3/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B076VXX4H3&pd_rd_r=a1fb9675-602b-11e8-ab0b-a7cdbce3d2eb&pd_rd_w=RmwyN&pd_rd_wg=fmu9i&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3914568618330124508&pf_rd_r=N4E2FDRWWCV0AQK3DGGX&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=N4E2FDRWWCV0AQK3DGGX

Yeah, it's in the Imperial propaganda hologram on Corellia.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Deke Starkiller on May 29, 2018, 09:33 AM
I saw it twice and enjoyed it. 2nd viewing was more enjoyable, and I do appreciate all the thought that went into all of the deep cut references. Still a C+ to a B-, but I still like Rogue One a bit more.

This is a great video for anything and everything Easter egg related in SOLO:

https://youtu.be/Z-dFbqsy504
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Brian on May 29, 2018, 07:48 PM
Saw it again today, I just really like this movie. I know it has simpler themes and is missing the "force" aspect and grander scale of the Saga movies, but as a fun side story I think it is pretty great. I'm sad to see all the news being about how it is a "flop", because it deserves better than that. I was hoping for a sequel.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on May 30, 2018, 03:58 PM
Is Lando "Pansexual"? I guess he swings both ways and toward droids too.

https://www.vox.com/2018/5/29/17365958/lando-pansexual-controversy-star-wars-slash-fic-history (https://www.vox.com/2018/5/29/17365958/lando-pansexual-controversy-star-wars-slash-fic-history)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on May 30, 2018, 05:16 PM
Chiming in late... I was pleasantly surprised by how much I liked this one.  Maybe it's because I had no expectations, didn't care that much, and assumed that the dude playing Solo wouldn't do a good job, but it exceeded my expectations on every level.  It was fun, it didn't feel over-done, or like it had pointless crap (Canto Bight), it didn't do anything to the characters that caused a stir (Luke, Ackbar)... I liked it so much more than TLJ (which I dislike more every time I watch it). 

I didn't expect that I'd feel like this, but I'd be on board for another Solo movie.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on May 30, 2018, 09:58 PM
Phruby, I dunno if Lando is Pansexual but I do know he mere simple mention of it in a friggin interview triggered so much bull**** on social media and elsewhere that it made me ashamed to consider some of the commenters “peers” in this hobby and fandom in general.  I’d say some of the reaction was so overtly homophobic that those people need to have a long look in the mirror about their own hangups on sexuality in general.

To me the interview remarks by Kasdan and subsequently Glover were taken and blown way way out of proportion.  I saw some tools even implying they had to explain pansexuality to their kids and refusing to go to Star Wars films and stuff like it’s now about space orgies and rated nc17.  Just pure overreaction stupidity.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Chris M on May 31, 2018, 06:23 AM
I got to see Solo yesterday and I loved it. I grew up a Han Solo fan, so this was something I wanted to see.  The plot was decently solid, not perfect, but it didn't try to be overly complicated and it wasn't too simple minded.  I thought it was pretty cool just to see how certain things from Solo's past happened, although much of it had been alluded to in EU books (that Disney has said doesn't matter, but we know in this case it may have).

I went in worrying if I was going to be able to see somebody other than Harrison Ford as Solo, and found it to not be an issue within minutes of the movie starting.  I thought Ehrenreich did a great job and nailed the portrayal.  I like how the plot seemed to weave back to the character of Han Solo that we see throughout the OT.  The only complaint, if you want to call it that, was the entire Darth Maul thing at the end.  Of course, that was a set up for a sequel that I'm completely on board for.  The side note to that, and intertwined with Maul, was the Qi'ra character.  A solid character, but her backstory wasn't completely put together in my mind.  But again, that might be sequel material and if they had gone into it, this movie it might have made it too cumbersome.

I don't want to get into a pissing contest over the Disney movies vs. OT vs. PT, but in my mind, this was far above and beyond what I saw in TFA and TLJ and probably falls into 2 or 3 in my own ranking order of all the SW movies.  I could see a little bit of the Disney influence, but I didn't think the humor was forced or too over the top and fit the character perfectly.

Overall, I loved the movie and it was certainly worth watching and I'm hoping there is a sequel.

If I was going to rank the movies by favorites:
Empire
Rogue One
Solo (those two could be flipped)
SW
ROTJ
TFA
ROTS
AOTC
TLJ
TPM
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on June 1, 2018, 12:06 PM
Phruby, I dunno if Lando is Pansexual but I do know he mere simple mention of it in a friggin interview triggered so much bull**** on social media and elsewhere that it made me ashamed to consider some of the commenters “peers” in this hobby and fandom in general.  I’d say some of the reaction was so overtly homophobic that those people need to have a long look in the mirror about their own hangups on sexuality in general.

To me the interview remarks by Kasdan and subsequently Glover were taken and blown way way out of proportion.  I saw some tools even implying they had to explain pansexuality to their kids and refusing to go to Star Wars films and stuff like it’s now about space orgies and rated nc17.  Just pure overreaction stupidity.

I took the remarks in the movie ask coming from a insecure crazy droid that might be in love with her owner and wants to keep competition away. Lando to me, has always been that lady's man, fancy dressed gambler in the saloon. He's kind of like Jim West in the Wild Wild West tv show. I'm not sure why there has to be an agenda added to his backstory.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on June 1, 2018, 03:27 PM
Pansexual doesn’t stop him from being a “ladies man” at all...  if anything, he’s an “everything’s man”.

I see no agenda and don’t see why anyone else does honestly.

Kasdan was asked something in an interview and he answered...  I saw nothing overtly displayed regarding Lando’s sexuality one way or another in the movie.  He clearly loved L3 but what that entailed who knows.  The interview seems to get people’s knickers in a twist over nothing really.

Personally I found it kind of funny and there was a fellow made a comment somewhere I cannot recall, but he said basically “did anyone ever really think Lando wasn’t the kind of guy who’d bang everything that moved, given the chance?”, and that to me sums him up.  Will he bang men too?  I dunno.  I don’t care either.  Maybe.  But I think he’d bang sentient Jello for the experience.

With all the species in Star Wars, i think Pansexual describes probably a lot of people in that galaxy.🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 1, 2018, 04:26 PM
As he's seen in the movie?  Lando is by all accounts "a player".  Han even called him "...you old smoothie" in TESB.  The dynamic between Lando and L3 was a little strange, but it was also an interesting way to further develop Lando's character.  There was also the deal with the Falcon being impounded on Vandor, and Lando being a gambler who cheats.  When he ran off on the crew on Savareen, it just made things between him and Han more complicated.... after Han had pretty well trashed the ship during the Kessel run, and his droid was lost.  Then the final round of Sabacc where Han won "fair and square"?    I thought ALL of those things were great ways to develop the character as well as the backstory between Han and Lando.  All of a sudden lines like "But that was a long time ago..." from TESB took on new dimensions.

Still, L3 saying to Han and Lando "Are you done flirting?" was one of the funnier lines in the movie.

But I almost wish Jon Kasdan HADN'T talked about the pansexual thing.  Not because it changed my own personal image of Lando.  I'm totally fine with it.  It's certainly not going to get played out on screen.  I take issue with it because it's fodder for the "original" snowflakes who take issue with any kind of modern day social issues being addressed outwardly or even subtly in the new era of films.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on June 1, 2018, 04:33 PM
Bet no one has issues with Kirk’s flavor of the week back in the day, which was essentially pansexual.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on June 1, 2018, 06:38 PM
Bet no one has issues with Kirk’s flavor of the week back in the day, which was essentially pansexual.

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Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2018, 10:28 PM
I think riker might be a better example from Trek.  That was one sexed up dude.

Kasdan did just add more fuel to the political ****storm that is Star Wars right now. But to me it was such a just passing remark in an interview that I just don’t see the reason to rage on it.  Like you said Nick it’ll probably never be overtly displayed just something Kasdan thinks is applicable to the character.  Wonder where Lucas would stand?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on June 3, 2018, 07:14 PM
Saw Solo again last night.  I enjoyed it more the second time around.  It might be my favorite of all the new SW movies.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 3, 2018, 07:32 PM
I just got home from my second viewing.  It flowed way better this time around, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.  The western/caper feel of the movie really shines through:  a train robbery, the card game, sitting around the camp fire, and the standoff?  It's all there.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: EdSolo on June 4, 2018, 07:55 AM
With all the backlash, I hope Disney just sticks to December from now on.  I think a lot of the people who hate on the Disney era and just upset that Lucas has nothing to do with Star Wars anymore.  They really need to sit down and watch TPM and AOTC back to back and then watch any two Disney era movies.  The first two prequels were just utterly boring movies.

Really, there was no reason for Disney not to push this movie out until December with all the production problems.  Who knows if it would have done better in December, but at least it would have been a bit father removed from TLJ.

I don't have a problem with Solo.  There are some minor things like Han not having or not knowing his last name.  I was hoping they would bring the life debt into canon.  I'm not quite sure what Chewie's motivation would be to stick with Han at this point instead of looking for his family.

I hope Disney doesn't over react to box office numbers.  A Boba Fett movie could have promise if done correctly.  I'm not sure what they plans for the Rian Johnson trilogy are, but I hope they map out the three movies instead of just writing as they go a la the sequel trilogy.  They need to take a page from Marvel studios and have a more defined road map, especially if they ever decide to go the inevitable Episode X - XII route.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: McMetal on June 4, 2018, 08:53 AM
I just got home from my second viewing.  It flowed way better this time around, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.  The western/caper feel of the movie really shines through:  a train robbery, the card game, sitting around the camp fire, and the standoff?  It's all there.

I saw it over the weekend again with my daughter and 100% agree with this. It was not a chore to sit through again at all. Not perfect by any means but nowhere near as bad as some people are making it out to be.

And I agree the box office performance has a lot to do with things completely unrelated to the quality of the film itself. (Timing, franchise fatigue, etc)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Deke Starkiller on June 4, 2018, 12:19 PM
I hope we get more SOLO films, but I think one key ingredient that is missing is the slight annoyance that Harrison Ford brought out in the role. Little things like that might help the overall feeling of the character. I saw it a third time with my kids and enjoyed it just as much.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 4, 2018, 02:15 PM
I hope we get more SOLO films, but I think one key ingredient that is missing is the slight annoyance that Harrison Ford brought out in the role. Little things like that might help the overall feeling of the character.


But then that's a part of the development of the character, isn't it?  Han needs TIME and EXPERIENCE to become the Han Solo that we meet in the Mos Eisley cantina.  That means years of smuggling, dealing with sketchy characters, having the Falcon boarded by Imperials, getting burned on deals and becoming increasingly jaded for all of it.  The Han of SOLO still has some of that hope and optimism, but you see it fading away as he learns that Lando, Beckett and even Qi'ra are all serving their own interests.

And one moment that really sums up that shift in Han's character?  Not the act of Han shooting Beckett, but Chewbacca's reaction!  Chewie was genuinely shocked to see Han kill Beckett before he even had a chance to draw his blaster.  Because Chewie already has a good sense of who Han really is.  Han saved him and got him off Mimban.  He kept Chewie from being killed on the Conveyex heist.  And Chewie also saw how Han was prepared to do the right thing by helping Enfys Nest.  But overall?  Han's moral center became ambiguous, at the very least.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on June 4, 2018, 03:43 PM
I saw it a third time with my kids and enjoyed it just as much.

Interesting, but my ten year old son's favorite two Star Wars movies are:
1 - Solo
2 - Rogue One

He also thinks these are two of the best movies he's ever seen.  (He's not too critical as he likes nearly all of the movies he sees).  I thought both of these movies were solid as well. 
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on June 4, 2018, 05:32 PM
Crazy idea that won't ever happen:

Alden Ehrenreich should play Indiana Jones when Ford is done.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Muftak on June 4, 2018, 08:26 PM
Crazy idea that won't ever happen:

Alden Ehrenreich should play Indiana Jones when Ford is done.

Discuss.

Do you realize what you just did to the minds of the "Original" Star Wars fans??

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Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on June 4, 2018, 11:29 PM
Muftak wins Best Post of the Day award!
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 4, 2018, 11:46 PM

I don't have a problem with Solo.  There are some minor things like Han not having or not knowing his last name.  I was hoping they would bring the life debt into canon.  I'm not quite sure what Chewie's motivation would be to stick with Han at this point instead of looking for his family.


I thought the Young Han Solo Chronicles was supposed to be at least 3 films originally.  I could see Han Helping Chewie find his family and that incurs the life debt.  I totally agre about the last name part....would have loved it if that was left on the cutting room floor.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on June 5, 2018, 12:52 AM
Agree on the Solo part.

Lol not sarcastically at Rob just completely at Muftak’s reaction pic being 100% accurate.  People will flip even though Ehrenreich did a great job despite all the horse **** posted about him.  Ford can’t do it but man he has a lot of untold adventures.  Would love to see his OSS days now that those are a thing but that’s more actual Indy era.

Man would people freak out.  Just chimps screaming and ******** themselves levels of hysteria.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on June 5, 2018, 09:24 AM
I totally agre about the last name part....would have loved it if that was left on the cutting room floor.

The whole family / father issue thing with Han was kind of odd.  It appears he mostly grew up with his dad (at least) but didn't want to use his real last name.  The motivation behind not using his last name and the motivation for leaving his family seems unclear.  I don't ever recall reading about his childhood or any of the backstory, but I haven't read any of the recent novels.

I'm fine with there being a backstory in the novels, but the couple of times he brings his family name and father up in the movie it seems a bit out of place.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on June 5, 2018, 10:28 AM
Lol not sarcastically at Rob just completely at Muftak’s reaction pic being 100% accurate.  People will flip even though Ehrenreich did a great job despite all the horse **** posted about him.  Ford can’t do it but man he has a lot of untold adventures.  Would love to see his OSS days now that those are a thing but that’s more actual Indy era.

As excited as I am for one more Indiana Jones with Ford, I mostly want them to get a younger actor so Jones can go back to the 1940's and deal with Nazis again.  They're a better foe than Cold War Russians.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 5, 2018, 12:51 PM
The box office numbers have been disheartening.  Which is a disappointment, because despite everything that transpired with changing directors midstream I think think movie was better than a lot of fans expected.  I'm still hopeful that maybe we can explore the Imperial era underworld of Star Wars.  A Boba Fett project seems like it's going to exist within that timeframe.  And frankly?  I hope that this isn't the last we see of Han, Chewbacca, Lando, and even Qi'ra.  The prospects of further exploring the Star Wars underworld is intriguing, especially Han's work for Jabba the Hutt.

And on the topic of Qi'ra...  She does conjur up some interesting notions after seeing her in SOLO.  How so? 

*THEORY*
There seem to be some interesting potential links between Qi'ra and Rey.  First of all?  There is a remarkable resemblance between Emilia Clark and Daisy Ridley.  And their accents in the films are similar.  I have heard Daisy Ridley say that was a deliberate choice for the role and that something might come of that at a later date.  Now while the question of Rey's parents SEEMS to have been answered by the events of THE LAST JEDI, was it really?  The mirror test didn't tell us anything other than Rey essentially raised herself.  And Kylo Ren might have been lying to Rey in order to hurt and control her.  Why?  My theory brings us to one of the unanswered questions of the Sequel Trilogy:  what drove apart Han and Leia's marriage?  Was it really Ben Solo's fall?  Or could it have been something else?

What if Qi'ra came back into the mix?  In the events of Bloodline it seemed that Han and Leia were very much living separate lives as she was a Senator.  Could Han have fallen back in with his old flame?  And could that relationship have yielded a child in Rey?  Han seemed to get a sense of who Rey was very quickly during the trip to Takodana.  And Maz Kanata asked Han quite pointedly "who's the girl"?  Maz knew something was up.  Granted, she's Force sensitive, too.  But she seemed to sense some type of link between Han and Rey.  But if you factor in the added family conflict of a marriage broken by infidelity, that may have driven Ben Solo that much more into the influence of Snoke.

As for Qi'ra?  She's working for a former Sith Lord.  She has already learned Tera Kasi (loved that nugget from SOLO).  And since she would now be answering directly to Maul in her capacity in Crimson Dawn, would she have come close enough to him to potentially learn to use the Force?  There's also the matter of some production code names.  For TFA the code name for Rey was Kira.  And in Episode 9 there is a new female character code named Mara.  Could this E9 "Mara" in fact be an older Qi'ra?


*/END THEORY*

It's a theory,  but I think it could be one that might tie up some loose ends.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Dave on June 5, 2018, 01:42 PM
I actually like the loose ends and don't feel like the whole galaxy needs to be somehow tied to a dozen characters and their family trees. 
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on June 5, 2018, 01:55 PM
I've had the same thought myself on Qi'ra. The box office probably throws water on further development of her character on screen (which is a huge shame) but I believe there is a reason she inherited Rey's name in early drafts of TFA.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: EdSolo on June 5, 2018, 03:37 PM
The box office numbers have been disheartening.  Which is a disappointment, because despite everything that transpired with changing directors midstream I think think movie was better than a lot of fans expected.  I'm still hopeful that maybe we can explore the Imperial era underworld of Star Wars.  A Boba Fett project seems like it's going to exist within that timeframe.  And frankly?  I hope that this isn't the last we see of Han, Chewbacca, Lando, and even Qi'ra.  The prospects of further exploring the Star Wars underworld is intriguing, especially Han's work for Jabba the Hutt.

And on the topic of Qi'ra...  She does conjur up some interesting notions after seeing her in SOLO.  How so? 

*THEORY*
There seem to be some interesting potential links between Qi'ra and Rey.  First of all?  There is a remarkable resemblance between Emilia Clark and Daisy Ridley.  And their accents in the films are similar.  I have heard Daisy Ridley say that was a deliberate choice for the role and that something might come of that at a later date.  Now while the question of Rey's parents SEEMS to have been answered by the events of THE LAST JEDI, was it really?  The mirror test didn't tell us anything other than Rey essentially raised herself.  And Kylo Ren might have been lying to Rey in order to hurt and control her.  Why?  My theory brings us to one of the unanswered questions of the Sequel Trilogy:  what drove apart Han and Leia's marriage?  Was it really Ben Solo's fall?  Or could it have been something else?

What if Qi'ra came back into the mix.  In the events of Bloodline it seemed that Han and Leia were very much living separate lives as she was a Senator.  Could Han have fallen back in with his old flame?  And could that relationship have yielded a child in Rey?  Han seemed to get a sense of who Rey was very quickly during the trip to Takodana.  And Maz Kanata asked Han quite pointedly "who's the girl"?  The added family conflict of a marriage broken by infidelity may have driven Ben Solo that much more into the influence of Snoke.

As for Qi'ra?  She's working for a former Sith Lord.  And since she would now be answering directly to Maul in her capacity in Crimson Dawn, would she have come close enough to him to potentially learn to use the Force?  There's also the matter of some production code names.  For TFA the code name for Rey was Kira.  And in Episode 9 there is a new female character code named Mara.  Could this E9 "Mara" in fact be an older Qi'ra?


*/END THEORY*

It's a theory,  but I think it could be one that might tie up some loose ends.

That would be an interesting theory if it pans out.  However, so far, it doesn't seem like Disney has an overall plan for Star Wars.  Your theory would require more coordination that what has been shown to exist so far.  The events of TLJ seem to have been completely up to Johnson with no links to any plans laid out by Abrams from TFA.  However, Abrams is now back for Episode IX and Johnson has said Abrams is free to change anything from TLJ.

Honestly, Lucasfilm needs to take a page out of Marvel's book and layout a road map similar to what Marvel did with Phase 1, 2, and 3.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Muftak on June 5, 2018, 04:39 PM
I could see the theory working out. Lest we forget Larry Kasdan co-wrote both TFA and Solo, and had the clout to get rid of the guys who tried to mess with his story

I liked (a lot) the restraint shown in "Solo" where they refrained from having Greedo and Boba cameo (When I saw Enfys Nest's swoop gang raiding the conveyex I had a sinking feeling we were about to set up the EU beef with Dengar, too.) Instead, they brought in the surprise cameo and the only thing I could think was "world building" ala when Sam Jackson would show up in an old-school Marvel movie (and having typed that just now, how awesome would it have been for the surprise cameo to be Sam Jackson as Mace Windu instead?)

And now we've had the unofficial announcement of Mangold's writing/directing of a "Fett" movie. I assume such a film is going to serve as much as a sequel to "Solo" as its own thing, and I hope they get to reuse characters/actors (especially Q'ira now...if her final scene turns out to be her final scene it will hurt future viewings...) Let's hope Kasdan can communicate with Mangold about things that seem to be set up going forward. (And for that matter, I wonder what would have happened if Rian Johnson had gone and had a long talk with Larry instead of the infamous short talk he had with JJ.)
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on June 5, 2018, 06:25 PM
I liked (a lot) the restraint shown in "Solo" where they refrained from having Greedo and Boba cameo (When I saw Enfys Nest's swoop gang raiding the conveyex I had a sinking feeling we were about to set up the EU beef with Dengar, too.) Instead, they brought in the surprise cameo and the only thing I could think was "world building" ala when Sam Jackson would show up in an old-school Marvel movie (and having typed that just now, how awesome would it have been for the surprise cameo to be Sam Jackson as Mace Windu instead?)

Speaking of Cameos... According to the Wiki and IMDB, Warwick Davis was actually still supposed to be Weazel from Phantom Meance.  I totally didn't think of that until just now...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Warwick_Davis

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Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: P-Siddy on June 5, 2018, 06:56 PM
Speaking of Cameos... According to the Wiki and IMDB, Warwick Davis was actually still supposed to be Weazel from Phantom Meance.  I totally didn't think of that until just now...

Yeah, he even gets his own card, too, in the new Solo set.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 5, 2018, 08:14 PM
I actually like the loose ends and don't feel like the whole galaxy needs to be somehow tied to a dozen characters and their family trees. 

That's something that's been on my mind, too.  Having things tie up too neatly doesn't seem like it's necessarily in the cards.


...but then did anyone really see the Luke & Leia thing coming in ROTJ?  Or think that it might have been too forced?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 5, 2018, 08:23 PM
I liked (a lot) the restraint shown in "Solo" where they refrained from having Greedo and Boba cameo (When I saw Enfys Nest's swoop gang raiding the conveyex I had a sinking feeling we were about to set up the EU beef with Dengar, too.) Instead, they brought in the surprise cameo and the only thing I could think was "world building" ala when Sam Jackson would show up in an old-school Marvel movie (and having typed that just now, how awesome would it have been for the surprise cameo to be Sam Jackson as Mace Windu instead?)


Same here.  It wasn't forced.  There was the MENTION of Bossk, but none of the other TESB bounty hunters.  Then there was the nod to Aurra Sing and how Beckett evidently played a role in her demise.  And lastly there was a passing references to the Hutts, and then that bit from Beckett about a job on Tatooine for a bigshot gangster.  It was just enough without being too much.

I had worries that the crashing Imperial patrol trooper might have been Dengar, too.  I'm glad that they didn't try shoehorning things like that into the story.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on June 6, 2018, 07:32 AM
Honestly, Lucasfilm needs to take a page out of Marvel's book and layout a road map similar to what Marvel did with Phase 1, 2, and 3.

THIS!!!

I liked TLJ, but afterwards I felt it really went out of its way to **** on a lot of stuff from TFA.  Kill most of the resistance.  Kylo ditches helmet.  Snoke offed.  Rey's lineage ignored.  etc.  I'm not saying I hated any of these choices, it just seemed a little... vindictive to me.

They can give creators freedom, but that freedom should be somewhat constrained by an outline.  For better or worse, there is an arc in Eps 1-3 for Palps and Anakin leading to where they are at the start of the OT.   I rewatched all three leading up to Solo, and while TPM and especially AotC are not the greatest, they do have several hooks that make what happens in RotS more rewarding.

Realizing that there is no pre-set destination for the end of Episode 9, there still should have been some basic story laid out.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Diddly on June 6, 2018, 12:30 PM
Saw it for a second time last night and felt roughly the same. Alden is great as Han, and made even better that he's not trying to imitate Harrison Ford. Donald Glover is a fantastic Lando, again nailing the character and not trying to play Billy Dee. Still hate that Maul is back in movie form, still think Proxima topples DJ as the worst character in any of the movies.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 6, 2018, 12:50 PM
Honestly, Lucasfilm needs to take a page out of Marvel's book and layout a road map similar to what Marvel did with Phase 1, 2, and 3.

THIS!!!

...

They can give creators freedom, but that freedom should be somewhat constrained by an outline.  For better or worse, there is an arc in Eps 1-3 for Palps and Anakin leading to where they are at the start of the OT.   I rewatched all three leading up to Solo, and while TPM and especially AotC are not the greatest, they do have several hooks that make what happens in RotS more rewarding.

Realizing that there is no pre-set destination for the end of Episode 9, there still should have been some basic story laid out.

The Kevin Feige style roadmap is something that does seem worth considering.  But the question to ask is whether or not the concept REALLY can apply to Star Wars.  In the Marvel Cinematic Universe model, they are working off of a good number of previously existing storylines that have been adapted for the big screen.  In that regard it differs greatly from Star Wars since the SW projects are being built from the ground up.  And without a master storyteller like George Lucas who is writing EVERYTHING, you are lacking some of George's sense of narrative focus.

Granted, the Star Wars story group does offer some guidance, and a great deal of coordination across several forms of media.  But they are doing that in the context of providing a kind of Star Wars universe bible for the filmmakers and screenwriters to work from.  As long as the Star Wars films are new creations unto themselves, I think that comparing the MCU and Star Wars might be like comparing apples and oranges.

I liked TLJ, but afterwards I felt it really went out of its way to **** on a lot of stuff from TFA.  Kill most of the resistance.  Kylo ditches helmet.  Snoke offed.  Rey's lineage ignored.  etc.  I'm not saying I hated any of these choices, it just seemed a little... vindictive to me.

I respectfully disagree.  I think that Rian Johnson was trying to challenge the audience, first and foremost.  I think that he is incredibly conscious of the previous films and the tropes and patterns that have been hallmarks of the saga.  Rey even communicated some of the audience's expectations of the Force when Luke asked her what she thought about the Force and the Jedi.  Luke dispelled some of those notions for Rey, and Johnson dispelled some of the audience's expecations, too.  Because after the PT, a number of the previously established patterns had become almost formulaic, and led fans to expect a Star Wars film to hit certain beats over the course of the movie.  And isn't a movie supposed to tell us a new story where we are generally surprised?

I think Rian Jonhson is equally aware of the surprise and shock that the audience had when THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK was released.  Think about it in it's time:  Han is captured and presumed lost.  Luke quit his Jedi training to face Vader and has been gravely wounded.  Leia truly has to step up and lead, saving those who have saved her before.  And Darth Vader has communicated something incredibly shocking - that Obi-Wan Kenobi lied to Luke about the fate of his father.  Vader has told Luke that HE is actually his father and wants him to join him.  Is this true?  Or is Darth Vader lying?  I was certainly left with the question of whether or not Vader was lying until ROTJ was released.  And by all accounts, even James Earl Jones thought that Vader was lying, too.

I really think that Rian Johnson was channeling the spirit of what had happened in TESB.  Because TLJ has a similar letdown that I know I felt at the end of TESB.  Yoda spelled out one of the themes of this movie explicitly, that failure is a great teacher.  And it also led us to re-evaluate our expectations, and that the struggle for our heroes was going to be more real and far from predictable.  The nagging questions wouldn't necessarily be answered when the audience expected them to be answered.

Granted, I tried to have an open mind about TLJ.  The first time watching it, I wasn't sure that I liked it.  But then I watched it again and opened myself up to the experience, and I came away with some of these impressions.  YMMV.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on June 6, 2018, 02:24 PM
Please don't misunderstand me... I really liked TLJ and I completely appreciate the new directions that RJ introduced.  I actually LOVED the way he sort of had Luke throw out (even in a meta sense) all the pre-conceived stuff about the Force, the Jedi etc.  Luke is evolved, and it seems that Yoda, after being one with the Force has also come to the same conclusions.  I can't wait to see where they go. 

Now space horses are another story...

I just thought the way a few specific things were erased "just because" was a little jarring. Was there a JJ-RJ spat?  I don't recall hearing that.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on June 6, 2018, 03:27 PM
Please don't misunderstand me... I really liked TLJ and I completely appreciate the new directions that RJ introduced.  I actually LOVED the way he sort of had Luke throw out (even in a meta sense) all the pre-conceived stuff about the Force, the Jedi etc.  Luke is evolved, and it seems that Yoda, after being one with the Force has also come to the same conclusions.  I can't wait to see where they go. 

Now space horses are another story...

I just thought the way a few specific things were erased "just because" was a little jarring. Was there a JJ-RJ spat?  I don't recall hearing that.

This is more or less how I feel about TLJ.  I thought the Luke / Rey / Yoda / Snoke / Kylo stuff was great.  I thought the fact that it was otherwise a chase movie with a worthless Poe and Finn and Rose on a terrible errand was awful.  It was half amazing, half a total throwaway to me.

Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on June 6, 2018, 06:39 PM
I liked the arc they had for Poe where he becomes the leader. I also get what they are building with Finn / Rose / Rey.  I just felt that the Canto scenes dragged it all down a bit. That could have been edited a LOT tighter. I also appreciate the big theme that comes out of this sub-plot,  it it’s all a bit plodding.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on June 6, 2018, 10:13 PM
I liked the arc they had for Poe where he becomes the leader. I also get what they are building with Finn / Rose / Rey.  I just felt that the Canto scenes dragged it all down a bit. That could have been edited a LOT tighter. I also appreciate the big theme that comes out of this sub-plot,  it it’s all a bit plodding.

Leader?  Poe was neutered for pretty much the whole film except for where he mutinies and is promptly slapped back down to earth by Leia. As for what they’re doing with Finn / Rose / Rey, I don’t get it at all. Explain it to me?

Finn is a rebel now, that’s cool I guess.  Rose is a horribly uninteresting character IMO, Rey is maybe the good guy, probably, but maybe not?  The evil dude is dead and I’m assuming Kylo will step up and finally be a bad dude... Hux is mostly just in the way and obnoxious... right now I don’t have any idea what the conflict is or what this whole thing is building towards... and the entire resistance is like 30 people and a bunch of future kids with brooms..  The end of that movie had no gravitas.

Meanwhile, after all of the excitement of all our childhood heroes coming back, in two movies two of them are dead and the one who isn’t died in real life. 

I enjoyed TFA, I enjoyed half of TLJ, but IMO Abrams has his work cut out for him.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: EdSolo on June 7, 2018, 06:59 AM
I think the big problem is there really seems to be a disconnect between TFA and TLJ.  I think TLJ would have been quite a different movie if it was directed by Abrams.  The whole "your parents were worthless drunk junk traders" does not vibe with the TFA flashback scene of young Rey being left on Jakku.  If Kylo is actually telling the truth (which Johnson seems to indicate) I don't see how her parents are dead in a paupers grave on Jakku.  The flashback scene really doesn't look like the ship is taking off to go to the local bar, but it appears to be leaving the planet.

The numbered episodes are supposed to be the story of the Skywalker family.  The whole Johnson explanation of "there needs to be other families who have the Force" is a silly explanation.  Were all the PT Jedi related to Skywalker?  I know this would have been the easy and obvious route, but you make Rey Luke's daughter.  Get rid of this awkward, shoe-horned love triangle with Rose and put Finn and Rey together.  She can reclaim the Skywalker name and so can Finn since he has no last name.  That frees things up for any future numbered trilogy.  As it is now, the last Skywalker in name is dead.  Kylo can claim lineage, but even a return to the light puts him back as a Solo.  There is no Skywalker to go forward as things now stand.

The stand alone films don't necessarily need the Marvel roadmap, but the numbered episodes do.  Tie ins like the hyperspace tracking from Rogue One to TLJ are nice nods.  So is putting Maul in Solo and thus connecting it with the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoon series.  If we are going to have a Star Wars movie every year, continuity needs to be a high priority.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Rob on June 7, 2018, 10:30 AM
If Kylo is actually telling the truth (which Johnson seems to indicate) I don't see how her parents are dead in a paupers grave on Jakku. 

I don't think he is.  He makes some other claims (I forget what off the top of my head) in that same scene that end up being lies and manipulation from Snoke... the gist I got from that scene was that Kylo doesn't really know what he's talking about and that it was extremely open to him having been wrong about Rey's parents.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on June 7, 2018, 06:37 PM
I like the idea of Rey's parents being no one, at least thematically (I'd still have made them Han/Leia myself) but I agree, Kylo is almost certainly lying. He's deliberately manipulating her worst fear, and tearing down her defenses, simply to capitalize on their very tenuous relationship. I don't know what the out would be for Rey, in terms of parentage; Luke is off the table. At least I think that would be too much last minute revisionism (I suppose I bought Luke/Leia being siblings just fine...). Han and Leia make the most sense, but while Kylo may be lying, we would have to again do enormous heavy lifting now to retcon this. Bringing it back to the Solo movie - Qi'ra - maybe, but this will be a Darth Maul level HUH? for the general audience in IX. So not sure.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: tmanthegreat on June 15, 2018, 12:59 AM
Going a little OT here, but I finally saw Solo...  First Star Wars movie I hadn’t seen on opening day since 1997, but sometimes life gets inthe way...  But that said, I rather enjoyed it, actually much more than I thought I would!
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 15, 2018, 09:17 AM
I like the idea of Rey's parents being no one, at least thematically (I'd still have made them Han/Leia myself) but I agree, Kylo is almost certainly lying. He's deliberately manipulating her worst fear, and tearing down her defenses, simply to capitalize on their very tenuous relationship. I don't know what the out would be for Rey, in terms of parentage; Luke is off the table. At least I think that would be too much last minute revisionism (I suppose I bought Luke/Leia being siblings just fine...). Han and Leia make the most sense, but while Kylo may be lying, we would have to again do enormous heavy lifting now to retcon this. Bringing it back to the Solo movie - Qi'ra - maybe, but this will be a Darth Maul level HUH? for the general audience in IX. So not sure.


I also get the concept of Rey's parents not being connected to the whole Skywalker lineage.  The running theme from Lucasfilm has been about making the universe BIGGER, rather than trying to draw things together neatly.  But I keep going back to those scenes between Rey and Han in TFA, and the exchange between Maz and Han in her castle.  It seemed like such a clear case of foreshadowing.  But the one question mark in that theory is when Maz said to Rey "Whoever it is you were waiting for, they're not coming back".
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: dave in the basement on June 15, 2018, 09:29 AM
I really enjoyed it as well, and hoped to see it again this weekend, but it is really being scaled back in theaters with the Incredibles 2 coming out. There are only 3 showings on Saturday and 2 on Sunday.  :(
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on June 17, 2018, 07:56 PM
I like the idea of Rey's parents being no one, at least thematically (I'd still have made them Han/Leia myself) but I agree, Kylo is almost certainly lying. He's deliberately manipulating her worst fear, and tearing down her defenses, simply to capitalize on their very tenuous relationship. I don't know what the out would be for Rey, in terms of parentage; Luke is off the table. At least I think that would be too much last minute revisionism (I suppose I bought Luke/Leia being siblings just fine...). Han and Leia make the most sense, but while Kylo may be lying, we would have to again do enormous heavy lifting now to retcon this. Bringing it back to the Solo movie - Qi'ra - maybe, but this will be a Darth Maul level HUH? for the general audience in IX. So not sure.


I also get the concept of Rey's parents not being connected to the whole Skywalker lineage.  The running theme from Lucasfilm has been about making the universe BIGGER, rather than trying to draw things together neatly.  But I keep going back to those scenes between Rey and Han in TFA, and the exchange between Maz and Han in her castle.  It seemed like such a clear case of foreshadowing.  But the one question mark in that theory is when Maz said to Rey "Whoever it is you were waiting for, they're not coming back".


I just realized one significant additional detail:  TFA and SOLO shared a screenwriter - Lawrence Kasdan. 
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Scockery on July 5, 2018, 10:23 PM
Last time I posted here, Star Wars was a hit franchise!

So was SOLO any good? I boycotted.

Nah, I saw it opening week, the first time I've done that since the prequels. Of course, hearing the theaters were mostly empty motivated me (not to  support the film per se, but to enjoy it with less hewmons around).
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Phrubruh on August 9, 2018, 01:14 PM
I've been thinking about Enfys Nest and how cool the character could be in a sequel (like that would happen). Who do you think her parents are? Some people think her dad is Darth Maul which is stupid. I'm thinking she is the long lost daughter of Beckett and Val  From her skin, she seems to be a mix. What do you think?

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Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 9, 2018, 04:42 PM
Did they mention they had a kid?  I don't remember that.  Why wouldn't Beckett have noticed her then?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Darby on August 9, 2018, 04:56 PM
I remember thinking in the theater for a moment her being Beckett's/Val's daughter was possible, because the reveal was staged in such way that it seemed like she was supposed to be somebody we knew... but the shock I guess was she was a teenager. I don't think she has to be anybody at this point - though I'd love to see her again. Darth Maul! Never heard that one.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Muftak on August 9, 2018, 05:29 PM
Some people think her dad is Darth Maul which is stupid.

Okay, I'll say it...would that even be possible for someone who doesn't have any body parts left below the waist?
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Jesse James on August 9, 2018, 09:28 PM
“Not everyone keeps their genitals in the same place” - Star Trek Quote
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on August 10, 2018, 08:17 AM
I don't think she's necessarily related to any other character we saw in Solo or elsewhere.  The one actor from the PT that I think she looked like was one of the Senators in ROTS (Fang Zar), but I get the feeling he was from another system.  And I don't think that Beckett or Val were likely old enough to have a child of Enfys Nest's age.  And based on what she had told of the people of Savareen, and how Crimson Dawn had silenced them?  That gave me the impression that Enfys had a direct link with them.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 23, 2018, 02:39 PM
I got the impression that, like Darby says, the only "shock value" was that she was essentially a "kid". I think Beckett had a past with Enfys Nest because it's the whole "the outfit is the symbol" kind of thing and she was wearing the outfit now cause she stepped in when her mother, who had previously been wearing the costume, died.

I'm not sure there's really supposed to be anything more to it than that.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on February 4, 2019, 01:26 PM
I just got the impression she was from that refining planet they were on (since the tongues were all cut out there too), or someplace similar. The shock was she was just a kid. I think Han saw a lot of himself in her, since she was a kid trying to take control of her life, as he did, but did something completely different with it.

Making her related to any major character would just be lame and make no sense.
Title: Re: Solo (SPOILERS)
Post by: Nicklab on February 5, 2019, 03:00 PM
That seems to be the running theme.  Han was getting used and beaten by the White Worms on Corellia until he fought back and escaped.  I think that when Enfys Nest told Han the story of how Crimson Dawn had "silenced" the opposition on Savareen with their brutality, turning on them was an easy decision for him.