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Title: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 2, 2015, 09:38 AM
3 weeks!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 3, 2015, 08:55 AM
They've been showing ads during Halt & Catch Fire and Humans.  It's looking like it will be pretty good!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on August 3, 2015, 10:37 AM
Can't wait.  It's been way too long since I've head some zombie goodness.  Of course, I'm sure we'll have to sit through a few episodes of set up before we get to the good stuff.   :-\
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on August 23, 2015, 08:46 PM
Took til tonight to get excited, but I'm ready. I'm really hoping for something along the lines of the first half of World War Z. Great Panic and all that, maybe even the Battle of Yonkers.

Will there be toys?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 24, 2015, 06:43 AM
Um...... so........ meh.........

I know they had to build up some back story, but that was a long 90 minutes and I'm not sure it invested me in the characters at all as I assume they were hoping.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BrentS on August 24, 2015, 09:03 AM
Um...... so........ meh.........

That was my general reaction as well.  I liked the three "zombie scenes" but the rest was a snoozer.   Frankly, the most interesting part for me was the montage clip of coming this season at the end.  Show still has some promise but it wasn't as gripping as original walking dead premier.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on August 24, 2015, 09:20 AM
Agreed, all the cliched junkie stuff grew tiresome quickly. Too much afterschool special. With only 6 episodes I had hope they would hit the ground running a little more.

I would have to assume all these people are now dead by the time the current show airs. Unless they suddenly got a lot smarter.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Diddly on August 24, 2015, 09:41 AM
I was pumped until the last few minutes of Talking Dead before the show when the producer dude was like "The reason people will like this show is because they know more than the characters!" Umm, no. The reason I was looking forward to it is because this is essentially Walking Dead that isn't tied to the comic, meaning we have no idea what will happen with the characters. Literally anything can happen and anyone can die! I was also looking forward to the possibility of learning what started the outbreak. But that line made it seem like they didn't understand the audience at all.

I mean I'll stick with it unless it gets REALLY bad (plus the 22 year old girl playing a high schooler is attractive enough for a few watches) but not a great start.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on August 24, 2015, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I agree with the general sentiment.  Druggie dude was super annoying.  The whole "he's on drugs so nobody believes him" thing was lame.  Ivy league super genius sister girl was annoying.  Step-dad was annoyingly earnest.  I'm looking forward to the lot of them dying.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 24, 2015, 05:36 PM
I enjoyed it.  We needed a set-up episode, and these people have no clue what is going on yet.  It should be interesting where they go from here.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 24, 2015, 06:51 PM
I agree with the general sentiments here as well.

The only take-away that I thought was interesting was the fact that the Boyfriend/Step-dad character (sorry, I don't remember anyone's names) showed some serious balls by going into that church by himself. Yeah, part of it was probably just "blind courage" but minimally, it could have been a drug addict on a really bad trip, violently lashing out - either way (walker or dude high on bath salts) - he still was willing to put himself into harms way for the sake of his family.

Kind of gives insight that he's a resourceful, survivor type, so that way when it comes to the end of the six weeks and he's still alive we're not left thinking "how the hell did the high school teacher survive?!?!"

And for anyone not liking the drug-addict son of the female lead - I'm pretty sure I caught a shot of him with a bite on his foot in the coming attractions, so his days are probably numbered. Would make sense, even if they wanted the show to be about a "family unit" and how they survive a zombie apocalypse, that unit could simply be the two leads, the female lead's daughter and the male lead's son from his previous marriage.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on August 24, 2015, 08:37 PM
To paraphrase Dr. Ian Malcom:
You do plan on having ZOMBIES on your ZOMBIE show?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 24, 2015, 09:20 PM
I agree with the general sentiments here as well.

The only take-away that I thought was interesting was the fact that the Boyfriend/Step-dad character (sorry, I don't remember anyone's names) showed some serious balls by going into that church by himself. Yeah, part of it was probably just "blind courage" but minimally, it could have been a drug addict on a really bad trip, violently lashing out - either way (walker or dude high on bath salts) - he still was willing to put himself into harms way for the sake of his family.

Kind of gives insight that he's a resourceful, survivor type, so that way when it comes to the end of the six weeks and he's still alive we're not left thinking "how the hell did the high school teacher survive?!?!"

And for anyone not liking the drug-addict son of the female lead - I'm pretty sure I caught a shot of him with a bite on his foot in the coming attractions, so his days are probably numbered. Would make sense, even if they wanted the show to be about a "family unit" and how they survive a zombie apocalypse, that unit could simply be the two leads, the female lead's daughter and the male lead's son from his previous marriage.

Here's a perfect example of what Scott Gimple was talking about us knowing more than the characters.  Travis went to the old church just thinking his junkie soon-to-be-stepson may have seen something, but his account is unreliable because he's an addict.  He didn't expect more than a bunch of strung out junkies zoning out after their fixes.  We know there was at least one zombie in their earlier, because we know what's coming.  They don't....and their primary source to the "there's something odd going on here" plotline is a junkie.

Now, when they see Calvin...that's the game changer.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Morgbug on August 24, 2015, 09:43 PM
Likewise on the slow, but truthfully that was expected so I can buy into it.  I liked how the fat internet nerd kid understood what was coming.  Good nerd nod. 

The rest of the characters?  Nope, not invested after that at all.  None I'm too worried about losing at all and the only one seemingly with enough going for them to survive is the step-dad dude, the rest should be fodder unless they show something real soon. 

Gotta tell you, after seeing the drug dealer zombie I'm picking up the handgun on principal alone. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 25, 2015, 12:09 AM
Gotta tell you, after seeing the drug dealer zombie I'm picking up the handgun on principal alone.

What for...the principal character wasn't that bad, maybe a little clueless as to what's going on, at least he called a half-day.  ;)

I think they could've shaken things up more. Like the dealer NOT turning after dying...making us wonder if whatever hasn't progressed that far (to turning all the dead into undead). But that would risk revealing something about the cause, which they are adamant not to do, because blah-blah-mystery-blah-it would only disappoint-blah. Really, this show cannot reveal much besides a doomed L.A. (or who knows, maybe LA contains the problem and becomes a haven  :P )

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on August 25, 2015, 09:25 AM
I just don't see how we're going to get to pandemic chaos from where they are now (short of bad writing).  We've seen the hospitals know something's going on.  That means the CDC will be involved and investigating.  Even if they don't "understand" what's happening, they'll be able to surmise pretty quickly we have venomous zombies.  In real life, controls would lock in place.  The president or the surgeon general would be on TV within a day or two saying "You know all those zombie movies?  Looks like that's what's going on.  Decapitate your dead."  And things would never get out-of-hand.  About 7,000 people die each day in the USA.  That'd be easy enough to contain.

As it stands now, there are still too many societal structures in place for it to go all apocalyptic.  There's still working communication systems...

Maybe the zombies will drop an EMP on LA.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on August 25, 2015, 12:04 PM
I haven't seen the show yet, but I think you're basing that assessment as though this was a contagion.  Don't we know from TWD that everyone is already infected?  A bite accelerates the process, but any death drives the change.  If 7,000 people die every day, then that's 7,000 new zombies (minimum) across the country popping up to kill the living.  That doesn't sound easy to contain to me.  Again, haven't watched it yet, but do authorities in the new show know that brain trauma is required to kill the zombies?  I thought from TWD that it took quite a while for most people to figure that out. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on August 25, 2015, 12:33 PM
7000 per day of 320 million?  You'd only need 1 out of every 45,000 people to be a competent zombie killer.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: P-Siddy on August 25, 2015, 02:54 PM
Plus, as Bill mentioned earlier, wouldn't any of these characters have seen any zombie movies... or do Romero's movies not exist in TWD-verse?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 25, 2015, 06:57 PM
Again, haven't watched it yet, but do authorities in the new show know that brain trauma is required to kill the zombies?  I thought from TWD that it took quite a while for most people to figure that out.

if a teenage girl can figure out the KILLSHOT from watching a viral video of a person getting shot many times before finally going down from a headshot, then the authorities can, too.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on August 26, 2015, 11:20 AM
Watched it last night... character development isn't terribly exciting, but it's necessary.  Definitely a little bit of a snoozer compared to the way Walking Dead started though.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 26, 2015, 01:07 PM
They couldn't start this the same way as TWD....in TWD, Rick wakes up and we're in the middle of the Zombie Apocalypse.  I think it's s good thing this is going slow, the zombies creep up on you until it's too late!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on August 26, 2015, 02:07 PM
They couldn't start this the same way as TWD....in TWD, Rick wakes up and we're in the middle of the Zombie Apocalypse.  I think it's s good thing this is going slow, the zombies creep up on you until it's too late!

Problem is that we've all seen 4 or 5 seasons of super high quality zombie stuff from this universe, so going back to square one when the bar is already set really high and then having a 90 minute episode with very little happening is pretty much destined to result in a giant Meh.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on August 26, 2015, 02:22 PM
7000 per day of 320 million?  You'd only need 1 out of every 45,000 people to be a competent zombie killer.

Less than half that number died in 911 and this is the minimum number of undead rising up daily.  I'm pretty sure that would spiral out of control real quick.  You'd have to assume that the 7000 kill a fair amount of people daily, with their numbers growing exponentially.  People wouldn't instantly believe what's going on and social media would probably be flooded with as much or more inaccurate reports of how to kill the infected.  Even if people could figure it out quickly, it seemed to take the CDC time to understand the causes and the fact that anyone who died would become a zombie.  You'd likely have people killing off or abandoning others showing the slightest amount of sickness.  Public services would stop as people fear getting infected or leaving their homes, and that would just eventually lead to more death and more zombies to deal with.

I also think the majority of people would have no clue how to fight back until its too late.  Kids, elderly, the sick - they'd have no chance of fighting without help.  Think about the number of people in the process of dying who would eventually turn and kill their friends or family while they slept or in a supposedly secure location.  Others would have a hard time killing off zombies even if they were to far gone (Morgan, Governor), and then you have a significant amount of people who would just give up.  I think you're giving an uniformed and panicked population too much credit and not factoring in the growth rate potential.

Here's some food for thought.  If one zombie came into existence today and their numbers doubled daily for a month (2 tomorrow, 4 the next day, etc.), how many zombies would there be at the end of the month?  Well over a billion in just 31 days. 

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on August 26, 2015, 02:44 PM
You wouldn't see exponential growth, though.  You wouldn't even see linear growth.  Not if the populace has already seen how to kill the things over YouTube, and communication systems are still largely intact.

I'm not arguing there'd be no instances of outbreaks.  Sure - someone young and healthy has a stroke in the middle of a neighborhood - some families gets wiped out.  But those kinds of stresses don't lead to societal breakdown.

Looking at my math a different way - each day right now 1 out of every 45,000 people die.  Are you saying those 44,999 other people can't handle it if that death becomes somehow contagious?  And not airborne contagious - contagious via staggering, brainless corpses?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on August 26, 2015, 05:09 PM
You wouldn't see exponential growth, though.  You wouldn't even see linear growth.  Not if the populace has already seen how to kill the things over YouTube, and communication systems are still largely intact.

I'm not arguing there'd be no instances of outbreaks.  Sure - someone young and healthy has a stroke in the middle of a neighborhood - some families gets wiped out.  But those kinds of stresses don't lead to societal breakdown.

Looking at my math a different way - each day right now 1 out of every 45,000 people die.  Are you saying those 44,999 other people can't handle it if that death becomes somehow contagious?  And not airborne contagious - contagious via staggering, brainless corpses?

I think you're taking an over simplified view of what could happen.  Do you really think its more likely that people instantly grab their hammers and bats to organize a defense vs. disbelief, fear, rioting, and giving up?  Think through all of the zombie/contagion/apocalypse movies we've seen.  When this starts, the vast majority of people won't believe its real.  Would you?  It might take weeks just to convince people it's happening.  As people figure out something is wrong, they'd likely shut themselves in for fear of contamination.  You're assuming people will just fight back, but I think most people without training would freeze when confronted with a zombie, just like most due in extremely traumatic real life situations.

Either way, you can clearly count on massive work stoppage and looting.  Take the 7,000 that would have died anyway, plus the increased deaths from people that can't get their meds, health care, rioting, etc.  Who is delivering fresh groceries or manning the water treatment plant?  How about the power plants?  Take away food and power for just a few weeks and you'd see any sense of law and order fly out the window.  Add to that the killings from people who think someone is sick and could infect them, people fighting each other for resources, suicide, etc.  People also wouldn't know that zombie bites are fatal or that people dying from other causes will come back, so many would try to care for the sick and wounded only to get surprise attacked later.  Think about mass population centers where a hoard of zombies could grow fairly quickly.  It's easy to think 20 people could stop a zombie, but 20 zombies vs. one person is very different. 

Social media can spread disinformation as quickly as good information and a fair amount of people aren't getting their news from Youtube. Reference the movie Contagion.  Those that can figure out how to kill a zombie still need to be able to do it in real life.  Not as easy to kill a loved one, especially for those that think there might be some kind of cure.  Reference TWD Morgan and Hershel.  I do think there would be more of a resistance than we've seen in the shows.  There would be pockets of communities or safe houses that could band together and set up procedures to keep watch, reduce the risk of an outbreak, etc.  But there's potential for those to break down in short order as well once people start fighting over scarce resources, weapons, authority, etc.  Someone gets careless or has an unexpected death or some virus spreads without treatment.   

Anyway, I don't think we're going to convince each other.  Hopefully we'll never have to find out.   ;)
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on August 26, 2015, 08:55 PM
I guess I just have more faith in Americans.  Like it'd take a whole lot of convincing for a good portion of this country to start bashing in the skulls of anybody who looked funny.   8)
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 26, 2015, 11:36 PM
Well, at least it's not The Dawn of the Dead remake were civilization dies within 24 hours. Fast zombies...it's over so quick.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 27, 2015, 01:00 PM
They couldn't start this the same way as TWD....in TWD, Rick wakes up and we're in the middle of the Zombie Apocalypse.  I think it's s good thing this is going slow, the zombies creep up on you until it's too late!

Problem is that we've all seen 4 or 5 seasons of super high quality zombie stuff from this universe, so going back to square one when the bar is already set really high and then having a 90 minute episode with very little happening is pretty much destined to result in a giant Meh.

The one thing we haven't seen is how it started.  It wasn't covered in the show or the comic.  I dunno...I appreciate FTWD for what they are doing.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on August 27, 2015, 03:17 PM
Yeah, I'm excited to see more info on the beginning even if it is a little slow.  That was the best part about the WWZ novel - hearing about how they went from everyday life to zombie apocalypse.  I'm still not sure we're going to get the "cause" behind the event as RK has said many times he doesn't care to touch on that part of the story.  It's supposed to be more about what the characters do int he situations they are confronted with than revealing all of the origins and details behind it. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 27, 2015, 08:42 PM
The one thing we haven't seen is how it started.  It wasn't covered in the show or the comic.  I dunno...I appreciate FTWD for what they are doing.

You won't see how it really started, only how it grew/spread and things fell apart...they've said no cause will be shown.  They also said not to expect big military operations ala World War Z.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 31, 2015, 09:30 AM
And I'm ok with that.  We're seeing the collapse from the eyes of the characters....last night's episode was pretty damn good.  The zombie outbreak is spreading faster than they can comprehend.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on August 31, 2015, 10:05 AM
Did anyone read about the Cornell study earlier in the year that models a fictional zombie outbreak?  They have a cool mapping tool called Zombie Town USA (http://mattbierbaum.github.io/zombies-usa/) that allows you to drop a zombie anywhere in the U.S. then map out the infection.  Obviously fictional, but they're trying to map out how diseases spread.  In most zombie films the outbreak happens all over at once, but they are taking a patient zero approach where zombies bites cause the infection.  I dropped a single zombie in Chicago and it took about a month to cover half the U.S. The East Coast falls relatively quick once the zombies finally get out there.  The model clearly doesn't account for infected driving or flying to different areas before they turn, but it was kind of fun to play with.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on August 31, 2015, 10:09 AM
Better, for sure. That fat nerd is like the uber-mensch of the apocalypse. Or zombie-whisperer. or whatever. He's smarter than every other character put together right now. (Why did he leave his food behind at the school though?)

I kept wondering why didn't the chick's boyfriend tell anyone how he got bitten?

It is always infuriating when characters on TV shows fail to share pertinent information with each other that would be blurted out instantly in real life. English Teacher Guy doesn't feel like mentioning to anyone that the dead are coming back to life now? Even when his ex-wife asks him point blank what he knows? "Ive seen what it can do, and what it can't..." very cryptic and dramatic and all that but how about just sharing some details? Oy vey!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 31, 2015, 11:01 AM
What Cinema Sins on youtube calls "playing the pronoun game"...

Yeah, left the food. I guess the principal freaked them out.

By the end Mom's already, "screw this, saving my own...no one else."  >:D

Guess this won't be like The Strain where people become aware of vampires but try to about their daily lives anyway. (And are often dumb enough to be out at night).
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on August 31, 2015, 12:18 PM
It is always infuriating when characters on TV shows fail to share pertinent information with each other that would be blurted out instantly in real life. English Teacher Guy doesn't feel like mentioning to anyone that the dead are coming back to life now? Even when his ex-wife asks him point blank what he knows? "Ive seen what it can do, and what it can't..." very cryptic and dramatic and all that but how about just sharing some details? Oy vey!

Same when no one could explain to the sister why she couldn't go sit next to her sick boyfriend... for ****'s sake, a simple "people are turning into zombies" would have sufficed.  Is this some alternate universe where the word zombie doesn't exist?

Also the protests struck me as stupid - the police brutality thing is a big issue in our real world today, but there would be 24 hour, wall to wall media coverage of people turning into monsters and not dying until they get a bullet in the brain pretty quickly, which would be the end of the protests.

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Diddly on August 31, 2015, 01:55 PM
Agreed, much better episode this week. Couldn't help but laugh that in true horror fashion, the black people died first.

I kinda liked the protest angle... explains why the outbreak spreads so fast (besides nobody telling anybody anything), because the Tumbler/Social Justice Warrior crowd gets in the way of cops doing their jobs. I laughed at the people running off the bus too... hey the cops just killed a dude, let's go poke the corpse with a stick!

The food thing at the school was weird too. Like, why wouldn't you take it after all of that? I did like how hard it was to kill Principal Obama, since he's a "fresh" zombie. That pocket knife to the head would have shattered a skull on TWD.  :)

I also like the decision by the wardrobe department to stuff the "teenage" daughter into yoga pants. Slightly disappointed we didn't get any zombies eating kids in the neighbor's moonbounce though.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 31, 2015, 09:16 PM
Same when no one could explain to the sister why she couldn't go sit next to her sick boyfriend... for ****'s sake, a simple "people are turning into zombies" would have sufficed.  Is this some alternate universe where the word zombie doesn't exist?

Yes, this has been said by the creators of TWD. There's no pop culture undead in this world. Or Haitian zombies, either.

I find that in stark contrast to most vampire stories in media, where vampires at least exist in legend. Same with werewolves. Maybe because zombies are a newer thing or because their mysterious nature is more essential to the drama.

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Also the protests struck me as stupid - the police brutality thing is a big issue in our real world today, but there would be 24 hour, wall to wall media coverage of people turning into monsters and not dying until they get a bullet in the brain pretty quickly, which would be the end of the protests.

Maybe the media reports are inconsistent? We assume all the recently dead everywhere are coming back, maybe that's not the case yet. Yeah, you'd think if dead people were seen roaming around, as undead don't hide, it would be all over the news even has hard as it would be to accept. No way authorities could prevent that for long, if really at all.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 31, 2015, 11:02 PM
It is always infuriating when characters on TV shows fail to share pertinent information with each other that would be blurted out instantly in real life. English Teacher Guy doesn't feel like mentioning to anyone that the dead are coming back to life now? Even when his ex-wife asks him point blank what he knows? "Ive seen what it can do, and what it can't..." very cryptic and dramatic and all that but how about just sharing some details? Oy vey!

Same when no one could explain to the sister why she couldn't go sit next to her sick boyfriend... for ****'s sake, a simple "people are turning into zombies" would have sufficed.  Is this some alternate universe where the word zombie doesn't exist?

Also the protests struck me as stupid - the police brutality thing is a big issue in our real world today, but there would be 24 hour, wall to wall media coverage of people turning into monsters and not dying until they get a bullet in the brain pretty quickly, which would be the end of the protests.

I think the Government is trying to suppress any information to keep people from panicking.  There are some in the know (the cops loading their car with water) and when the protest started to turn into a riot, the Riot Cops were actually trying to keep everyone in that area because they were trying to contain the zombies.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Morgbug on September 13, 2015, 11:19 PM
Enjoyed this one a little more.  Starting to get there, but still much confusion.  Don't think the intervention of the military is going to be a positive experience. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 14, 2015, 01:34 AM
when they drove by the hospital was awesome!  Couple that with the difference between Travis and Madison on how they are dealing woth this shows how strong Madison is.

Poor puppy.   :(

I also think the national guard are up to no good.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on September 14, 2015, 08:32 AM
Funny how quickly the dad went from awesome dad to douche dad.  "You know how I feel about guns."  Yeah, that's gonna get you far in the zombie apocalypse. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on September 14, 2015, 09:51 AM
I think I've come to the conclusion that I don't really like any of the characters on this show. There is no one like a Daryl or Michonne to really get behind. When you're not emotionally invested, it feels pretty flat.

I really was hoping this would NOT turn into a military/quarantine type scenario but here we go. Those guys are dopes though, they should not be wasting their time going house to house in the 'burbs.

What the hell was the point of the kid trying to break into the neighbor's house at the end? Was he planning to steal a TV set he could throw it into his imaginary car and go hock it for drug money in the middle of the apocalypse? Or was he just hoping to find a big pile of heroin lying around next door?  ::)
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on September 14, 2015, 09:59 AM
He was gonna steal his dead Asian neighbor's pills.  I'm pretty sure when his sister saw that empty bottle that it was him who scarfed them down.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: GrandMoffNick on September 14, 2015, 10:13 AM
I agree McMetal. I have no emotional investment in any character yet. That concerns me
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jeff on September 14, 2015, 10:26 AM
Haven't had a chance to check out this show yet, so I thought I'd pop in here to see if I need to hurry up and get on board or if it's ok to wait and binge when more eps are complete.

I think I've come to the conclusion that I don't really like any of the characters on this show.

I have no emotional investment in any character yet. That concerns me

Hmmm...  maybe I'll wait it out a bit more. :P
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 14, 2015, 06:17 PM
It would interesting if FTWD turned out to be an anthology season show, like American Horror Story. Next season a whole new group of characters, maybe even location.

But I doubt they'd be that creative.

The neighbor husband coming home to almost be a victim was almost comical. Because BOOM! (hey, man, nice shot), the army shows up like the Umbrella corporation at the end of the first Resident Evil movie. No one heard them, they just appear as if teleported in.

I expect that plane to crash, instead it leered off course.

Only 3 episodes left....not sure why they ordered so few...as if they weren't sure about it. TWD's 1st season had that many, but it was an unproven concept.


Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 14, 2015, 07:19 PM
He was gonna steal his dead Asian neighbor's pills.  I'm pretty sure when his sister saw that empty bottle that it was him who scarfed them down.

I thought the wife OD's on them.  That would explain why she died.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on September 15, 2015, 11:14 AM
I expect that plane to crash, instead it leered off course.

I'll bet good money that the plane is the one featured in the "Zombies on a Plane" single-episode they announced.  It's supposed to take place just as the zombie plague breaks out.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Diddly on September 15, 2015, 02:49 PM
That barber is the best character so far. "Good people are the first to die." He would fit in well with Rick and Co.

I think the Mom's "distant, concerned stare" is going to become a meme similar "stuff n thangs," "CORAL," and "M'ask you sumthin."
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Morgbug on September 15, 2015, 11:52 PM
That barber is the best character so far. "Good people are the first to die." He would fit in well with Rick and Co.

I think the Mom's "distant, concerned stare" is going to become a meme similar "stuff n thangs," "CORAL," and "M'ask you sumthin."

I like the barber best as well, though I think his "weak" comment is going to come back to haunt him very shortly.  His wife is done.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on September 16, 2015, 11:05 AM
You'd think when the national guard walked up, you'd tell them "oh yeah, this woman with us has necrosis from a crushed foot and is gonna die soon - little help?"
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on September 16, 2015, 04:00 PM
I liked this last episode and agree that some of the scenes are really cool.  The hospital patient in the parking lot was awesome.  Wish we were getting a little more of that.  I really like the concept, but also not really vested in any of the characters.  Maybe the mom and the barber, and obviously the hot daughter.  I'm getting really tired of the druggie and the boy scout dad though.  It would be hard to toss in a Daryl or a Michonne at the onset of the plague - I think that would feel forced or corny. But there is nothing really likable about any of the characters.  The two boys are selfish punks, the dad is irritatingly predictable and naive, the mom just seems numb, the daughter is still lovestruck about her boyfriend...they're all just stereotypes playing out roles without any real depth. 

My biggest issue with the show is that the reactions to everything don't seem real.  The dead have come back to life and no one's really expressing any emotion - fear, loss, sadness, anxious, helpless, anger?  They had to blow the neighbors head off, but no one is scared or crying or yelling?  And speaking of neighbors, how about going to help the lady across the street before she gets killed or telling the guy wheeling out his garbage what is going on?  I'd be trying to band together with my neighbors and sharing information versus just glaring at them and sneaking off.  I'll watch to find out what happens, but I'm not jonesing for the next episode like I am with TWD.  Hopefully the military thing falls apart quickly and they had some new, more likable characters to the mix. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 21, 2015, 12:04 AM
You'd think when the national guard walked up, you'd tell them "oh yeah, this woman with us has necrosis from a crushed foot and is gonna die soon - little help?"

Answered this episode. But she might be worse off.

Army officer has a to be a jerk, doesn't he?

Why did Madison get the gun lying on the street...all that risk to see what's outside and she doesn't get anything useful?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on September 21, 2015, 09:57 AM
Why did Madison get the gun lying on the street...all that risk to see what's outside and she doesn't get anything useful?

I know right?! I was thinking the same thing. I guess she couldn't figure out how a gun would be useful in the zombie apocalypse. These people deserve to die!

This thing had a lot of potential but ultimately feels like a big let down. I feel like they are treading way too much water for a six episode stint. They could have saved a lot of time by just focusing on some normal family without all the ABC after school special stuff. It's not like showing all that crap made the characters more endearing in any way.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Diddly on September 21, 2015, 10:38 AM
Yeah, this is becoming a "hate watch" show for me since there are only two episodes left for the season. I realize they are building up to SOMETHING, but it's taking forever to get there. Walking Dead has slow episodes, but they also have longer seasons and have stuff happen every 2-3 episodes before the slow ones. Even TWD's first season had more excitement, while still explaining some stuff.

Most cringeworthy scene: Barber's Hot Daughter making out with the Army dude

Thanks to Reddit for the term "hate watch" which I plan on using a lot more
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on September 21, 2015, 06:43 PM
Dear lord this show is slow.  Until the last few minutes of the show last night I've seen so little that really drives the plot of the show.  I certainly hope the next two episodes have some sort of excitement in store. 

I've been bored with the plot, bored with the characters, and generally bored with the show.  Virtually no action last night?  Stupid decisions constantly being made?  No real character development?  I'll hang on, but like Diddly said, this show is very "hate watch" for me too.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 21, 2015, 07:54 PM
Zombie free, aside from  dead ones.
There are zombies on your zombie show?

I feel like if the army is as ruthless as they are implying, that the neighborhood would've heard a lot more shooting nearby. I guess everyone sort of ignored it for the past 9 days.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Morgbug on September 21, 2015, 09:05 PM
Help me out here: when Madison was hiding under the car, wasn't that a zombie?  I didn't notice any head wounds but thought the eyes were funked out.  Might just be me over-interpreting.

Kind of hoping the ******bag drug addict gets disappeared.  Check that.  Really hoping. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on September 22, 2015, 08:51 AM
Yeah - this is just not a good show.  "The military is evil and murders people" - how original.  Stressed-out mom becomes dead-zone explorer?  Because she bonded with her future step-son, inexplicably? 

And uncharasmatic dad makes such an awesome impression on people that some dude he had one beer with once considers him a good friend and inspiration?  And they call the dad mayor?  This is the same dad whose next-door-neighbor gave him the stink-eye last episode?

Maybe they're writing all the characters without any real core to demonstrate the chaos of the situation.  But I won't give them that much credit.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 22, 2015, 01:28 PM
Help me out here: when Madison was hiding under the car, wasn't that a zombie?  I didn't notice any head wounds but thought the eyes were funked out.  Might just be me over-interpreting.

Yeah, it was. That dead one was it for zombies in the episode.  I guess there were other dead ones lying around but who can tell.


Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on October 2, 2015, 08:26 AM
Any thoughts on this past week and the upcoming season finale?

I was seriously agitated because my DVR stopped working Sunday so I had to wait to stream it.  AMC's streaming sucks!!  It skips all over the place.  I ended up finding it on ATT Demand so I watched the last half through that.

Anyway, I was and wasn't happy with this past week.  The stuff I think a lot of people wanted to see was completely skipped over (fall of the city, the deployment of soldiers, soldiers/people actually fighting, rioting, fall of law and order).  I think that hurt the series overall.  As for this past week, some eyes seem to be opening to the overall situation.  Again though, almost no zombies.  However, the acting still sucks so who knows how that will affect the finale.

A lot of stuff was missed I think.  So who knows how this will play into the season finale.  I can't say I'm really amped up to watch it, but I'm at least somewhat interested in what is going to happen.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on October 2, 2015, 08:34 AM
It's been a huge disappointment really, not so much because it's that bad, but moreso because it had the potential to be SO good. And it's just very mediocre, to the point of me not even caring much any more. They picked a really bizarre assortment of characters...as I mentioned before i think it would have been more interesting to have had a more typical American family that people could easily relate to. And yeah, I totally agree they fail to focus on the most interesting aspects of the outbreak.

I kinda hope it doesn't come back at all, but if it does they have to focus on totally different people next time.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on October 2, 2015, 10:22 AM
I like the barber.  Dude's legit.

Not sure what to make of the hustler.  Kinda strange to introduce an important character in the next-to-last episode.

I too hope they don't revisit this group in season 2.  But with one episode left, I think there are too many loose ends to tie up for that to be their plan.  Unless they all just die.  We can always hope.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 2, 2015, 02:33 PM
I kinda hope it doesn't come back at all.

Agreed.

I went from being so hopeful about this series to not even wanting to watch it.

Essentially the exact opposite of the main show - I was hesitant to watch it cause I didn't think a Zombie movie as a TV show would be any good and by the time that 6 episode series ended, season 2 couldn't come fast enough.

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 4, 2015, 01:30 PM
Army pretty sloppy to leave an arena of undead like.  But they are falling apart.  I think their tactics of rushing into a house/building are idiotic, because that's exactly where the undead have an advantage. But then they stopped to use a 50 caliber rifle to snipe a zombie they could've dispatched in under a minute. There's the question as to whether Lt Moyers was killed by walkers or his own men.

I don't think the barber is sympathetic (he only seems so because we know what he didn't know). But I'm not sure why the soldier was so tight lipped...while being skinned alive. "Screw it, we're pulling out, you civilians are screwed!"

The dress-up/trash the rich people's house as just a waste of screen time on a 6 episode first season.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 4, 2015, 09:45 PM
Doom everyone so you can rescue a drug addict and a woman with sepsis - great plan retards.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: GrandMoffNick on October 5, 2015, 10:25 AM
Great mass murder accomplished by the "heroes" of this show.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on October 5, 2015, 10:36 AM
Yeah - "let's abandon our neighbors and massacre the military."  Fine up-standing group right there!  Totally the type of people to root for!

I never said the barber was sympathetic.  I just think he's a legit badass.

Overall, I think the season was lame as hell.  In the end the only "loss" was the ex-wife.  Just paltry.  There were a couple bright spots, but I really don't like the cast at all.

I was really hoping the distraught barber was gonna pick up the gun and take out the dad for being an idiot.  That would have been a shocking and interesting ending.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on October 5, 2015, 01:10 PM
By far the best episode of the season....every episode should have been like this though. This was exactly the kind of chaos I was expecting to see. The scenes at the perimeter with the army dudes firing wildly at the horde were great I thought.

I really think it would have been a great twist to have the junkie eaten alive right in front of his Mom on the other side of the hospital door. Like Glyn and Everybody Hates Chris in the revolving door on WD last season. Missed opportunity there.

The stuff with the army guy was really stupid though. Like that dope is going to worry about the Salazars when his whole unit has pulled out and the city is in flames. If he was that pissed, why not just lie to Travis about where to go in the first place? And why shoot the girl and not the dude who sliced up your arm?

So what exactly did Mysterious Black Guy need Nick for in order to escape anyway? How exactly were those junkie skills going to come in handy? I assumed he was just going to throw the kid at the zombies at some point to distract them, but apparently not.

Kinda hard to work a boat into the end there and NOT have it feel like a rip-off of the Dawn of the Dead remake, but I'll give them a pass for that.

I loved how the ex-wife who was NOT EVEN A REAL NURSE managed to work out the pathology of the infection in a few hours and it took Rick and Co like 4 seasons to get there. And now she's dead! (Pretty quick to give up there too seemed to me, didn't she want to take a few minutes to write her son a letter or something? What was the rush to eat a bullet?)

I guess on TD they confirmed there would be a Season Two and with the same cast too. Rats.  :-\
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 5, 2015, 06:44 PM
Ex-wife had a real doctor to tell her what was going on.

Yeah, they screwed over LA to save their own. Nice work! Who is worse now? The Army for planning to abandon or euthanize everyone or the protagonists for releasing a horde and getting who knows how many killed? (Madison really, really, really hates her neighbors...even ones she liked...didn't even see her look for the Asian husband next door at the base, either.)

How did tortured private get back to the army compound and past the horde in time to confront them...I like to think he was in the pick-up bed the whole time...that's the only way i can rationalize the timing. Otherwise, he takes a vehicle, is moments behind them, but it more interested in payback than assisting his fellow soldiers.

The someone got bitten but hasn't told anyone yet was OBVIOUS. Why? Because other than Salazar's daughter getting winged, the escape was too easy.

Talking Dead didn't address much of anything of relevance. the house in the distance, the infected boyfriend, what happened to detainees who go downstairs (death, but that's still an assumption),

What I would've done.
Daniel Salazar is shot by the soldiers after saying "I'd save your ammunition..." and dies. So much for glib dialogue.
Like McMetal said, Nick gets eaten behind the doors, along with Strand.
Private shoots Salazar's daughter...kills her...goodbye Salazars. (i thought he did kill her for a second)
Doctor goes with the group, takes compressed air gun with her.
Ex-wife lives.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 6, 2015, 12:36 AM
Overall, I liked the show.  I wish they had done a few things differently (the soldiers in the parking garage really kind of got to me....the ones guarding the neighborhood didn't as much, mainly because I figure that is what you'd get when you put a 1Lt in charge).

FTWD definitely whetted my appetite for TWD's return next week and I'll look forward to season 2.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on October 7, 2015, 07:58 AM
I was just thinking about something after the finale - how did an intelligent, extremely savvy, able-bodied multi-millionaire end up in the prison for junkies, psychos and dead-meat?  A prison that's nowhere near his mansion and yacht?  In what universe does that begin to make sense?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Diddly on October 7, 2015, 09:38 AM
Finally chugged my way through the last two episodes, and honestly I mostly fast forwarded through them. I don't think I'll be watching Season 2.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 7, 2015, 11:05 AM
I was just thinking about something after the finale - how did an intelligent, extremely savvy, able-bodied multi-millionaire end up in the prison for junkies, psychos and dead-meat?  A prison that's nowhere near his mansion and yacht?  In what universe does that begin to make sense?

They must've considered him a trouble-maker, like some of the other detainees.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Morgbug on October 7, 2015, 10:41 PM
I was just thinking about something after the finale - how did an intelligent, extremely savvy, able-bodied multi-millionaire end up in the prison for junkies, psychos and dead-meat?  A prison that's nowhere near his mansion and yacht?  In what universe does that begin to make sense?

I'm guessing he's a response to the fact that the first three (two?) African-American actors were killed off and that it was mocked as old-school mentality towards African-American actors, notably in zombie movies.  That it doesn't make any sense is completely irrelevant, what we now have is a key character that is African-American. 

I recognize it's not politically correct to point that out, but I'd gamble that's the reason he's on there and he'll survive quite a while. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 8, 2015, 12:05 AM
I was just thinking about something after the finale - how did an intelligent, extremely savvy, able-bodied multi-millionaire end up in the prison for junkies, psychos and dead-meat?  A prison that's nowhere near his mansion and yacht?  In what universe does that begin to make sense?

Probably something they will cover next season, but my guess is that he was downtown and got caught up around the riots.  Hell the military was quarantining anyone they thought might be trouble.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on October 8, 2015, 08:57 AM
I just don't see a reason why the military would see rich dude in a suit and conclude "trouble."  Especially rich dude who's an expert at reading people and manipulating them.  The only reason that would make sense is if the military was overtly racist - but I can't imagine they'd write it that way.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on October 8, 2015, 05:55 PM
I love zombie everything, but this series was terrible.  I finally finished it last night and was angry at myself for watching it.  As others have pointed out, so many dumb plot holes and wasted screen time.  Flashing light in the window eluded to what?  Nerd who figures out everything ahead of time ends up where?  So many plot lines unresolved.  Young kids trashing a rich house?  Pointless.  Adding a new character and him conveniently needing a druggie?  Cripes, use him to steal something or classify drugs or whatever, but there was no point in that.  Wounded soldier boy catches up with them?  Really?  The zombie hoard following Salazar in nice neat mob just steps behind?  Yeah, that makes sense.  Could the zombies even walk that far that quickly given they were so short on time?  And don't even get me started on all the wasted lives and resources from that stupid plan at the end.  They didn't feel like warning ANY neighbors or taking ANY of those supplies?  And the nurse wants to be killed immediately?  Didn't characters that were bit in TWD make a point of showing when you're dying you want to hold on to every last second you can?  It feels like the whole show intended to make the point that the druggie kid felt lost in the pre-zombie world, and now everyone is catching up to him.  Awesome message.

I really can't stand any of the characters and have serious doubts about watching another episode let alone another season.  They so badly missed the mark with this show - I think they'd be better off just cancelling the series.  I really didn't enjoy any of the 6 episodes outside of actually seeing the military try to fight zombies and the initial random zombie outbreaks. Even those were irritating at times though, since the soldiers knew to shoot for the heads and probably could have wiped out that whole hoard with the number of rounds they were firing.  Just lame and disappointing.  This will definitely make whatever they put on TWD look like genius material going forward.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 9, 2015, 08:19 PM
The army could've dipped the helicopter blades into the hoard and chopped them up.

Okay, i guess that wouldn't have worked.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on October 14, 2015, 07:15 PM
I didn't hate this as much as some of you did, but I don't care for it as much as TWD (yet).  I think it'll get better...  It did in 6 episodes, so I imagine it can do better next year. 

Agree on some points, not so much on others...  These people are dumb though, for sure.  And absolutely agree most of them are unlikable.  I don't mind the main guy and Salazar, and main guy's girlfriend is tolerable.  His ex wife and all the kids I'd push out of the truck myself though.  All obnoxious. 

I like seeing some of the "fall" of a major city like that...  The hospital scene was pretty neat, like they'd basically laid siege to the hospital after things inside it got out of control.  I found the rioting kind of goofy though...  I mean, a cop is eating another cop, in front of you, and you're just wanting to push your anarchy agenda?  Not pausing at all?  Oooook. 

Anyway, I'll stick with it next year and if it sucks I'll just quit with it.

Somehow people actually have won a "Talking Fear The Walking Dead" campaign...  The only thing I can imagine that is worse is a show talking about it.  Unless Hardwick goes all anti-establishment and actually starts bitching about plot holes, which would be funny, but he's such a chode I know he won't.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 15, 2015, 06:54 PM
I found the rioting kind of goofy though...  I mean, a cop is eating another cop, in front of you, and you're just wanting to push your anarchy agenda?  Not pausing at all?  Oooook. 

Makes as much sense as a zombie stopping to stare inside the barbershop. I'd like to think that's a clue to something "new" on the horizon...but probably not. Once they start playing around with zombies, then the show's suspension of disbelief heads to Z Nation or Resident Evil territory.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on October 15, 2015, 07:11 PM
I didn't even give the zombie looking in the window a second thought...  I figure it was just distracted, or it was random coincidence...  That was my view anyway. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 17, 2015, 08:03 PM
Distracted from all the hysteria and easy dining options outside?
They wanted to do a cool scene and didn't think about it.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on October 17, 2015, 08:22 PM
I pictured them kind of staggering around in sensory overload...   So a noise in every ditection, flashing lights every way....  One bang on the metal shutter and one could walk into that wall and just as quickly turn and look elsewhere.  That was how I figured it made as much sense as people eating each other but other people witnessing it and still rioting.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 19, 2015, 01:16 AM
Well, mob mentality takes over, I guess.  Or herd mentality? Or when a crowd of people tramples someone. And anyone asks "How could they not notice they were trampling another human being?"
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on April 11, 2016, 09:34 AM
So, this again. I realized about halfway through last night the show I really would rather be watching is "STRAND AND NICK AND THEIR ADVENTURES ON THE HIGH SEAS" after they have thrown all those other idiots overboard thus insuring their safety and security forever.  ;)

They need to find a nice white hat for the teenage daughter since she is clearly going to be playing the role of Gilligan on this little three hour tour. "My boyfriend may be dead or not, I don't know, but let's look for cute boys on the radio while I paw at the ink pen tattoo the love of my life just gave me like 2 days ago before I forgot about him." At least she found a way to work the de-salinization system into the conversation.  ::)

Where is the technology that will allow you to reach through the TV scene and just violently shake someone until their brains re-activate?

As many of the mains die on the regular show, I am hopeful a bunch of these morons get eaten up this season and the rest of them get a lot smarter as a result. Starting with the too stupid to believe teenage daughter, the angry for no reason teenage son, and right on down the line.

LOL @ the mom trying to bond with the stupid angry kid over beating up their Dads.

Come on, zombies!!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on April 11, 2016, 10:14 AM
I'm not watching.  Season 1 was dreadful.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Dave on April 11, 2016, 10:22 AM
I'm not watching.  Season 1 was dreadful.

My wife keeps asking why we don't give FtWD a try.  They hit you with so many previews during TWD, and it seems interesting from the previews.  But then I tell her that I have yet to hear anyone say its not a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BrentS on April 11, 2016, 02:07 PM
I'm not watching.  Season 1 was dreadful.

My wife keeps asking why we don't give FtWD a try.  They hit you with so many previews during TWD, and it seems interesting from the previews.  But then I tell her that I have yet to hear anyone say its not a complete waste of time.

Its like a train wreck to fill the void on Sunday night.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on April 11, 2016, 02:45 PM
I'll fill next week with the finale of Vinyl, then it's Game of Thrones in all its glory until summer.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on April 11, 2016, 03:30 PM
I'm not watching.  Season 1 was dreadful.

My wife keeps asking why we don't give FtWD a try.  They hit you with so many previews during TWD, and it seems interesting from the previews.  But then I tell her that I have yet to hear anyone say its not a complete waste of time.

Its like a train wreck to fill the void on Sunday night.

So true! I kinda love to hate it. I think the general idea and narrative framework of the show are solid, it's just the way pretty much all of the characters are written.

PREACHER looks promising though...
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Morgbug on April 11, 2016, 08:07 PM
Gotta agree.  I'm watching because I'm hoping some of these people get killed.  Many of them are too stupid to really be alive at this point.  When the addict is the smartest of the bunch it ain't sayin' a lot about you. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on April 11, 2016, 08:49 PM
Couldn't sit through the premiere...  This is just bad.  Very very bad.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on April 11, 2016, 10:39 PM
I enjoyed it thoroughly. No, wait...I meant barely.

 A-holes acting stupid on a yacht that for some reason stops moving so idiots can jump in the water near a shot-up boat that was probably sunk by the military (would anything else make sense this early in the poccy lips?) It's not that the coast guard can't save anyone, it's probably they've been ordered not to. The military still thinks this is something to contain.

Which reminds me that Los Angeles is burning because "our heroes" decided to release a zombie horde on the army's command post. 

There's also how come the undead are fleeing the bombings and fires...oh, they say because they aren't as decayed or  mindless or something yet. Sure...change the rules and pretend that's how it's always been.

Strand, the junkie and Cliff Curtis can live, the rest can sleep with the fishes.

Oh, and if The Talking Dead occasionally got tedious and dull after the Walking Dead, now it's pure snoozefest.
"They learn that the floating fortress isn't safe" -Producer
 "I had scene fighting a zombie that was cut". -Curtis
"I'm Hozier" - Hozier
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 11, 2016, 11:54 PM
I still enjoy the show...but you have to watch it with the filter of these people barely have a clue as to what is going on.  That would esplain why Chris is still upset that Travis shot his mother (even though she practically begged him to in the season finale)...he doesn't understand that a zombie bite is fatal.

The daughter is this show's Lori.  She has put the Abigale in so much danger...honestly someone should slap Travis across the face for suggesting she listen to the radio to try and find a safe haven and not explicitly instruct her to leave the mic the hell alone!  The entire time she's using that thing I'm just saying, "they're triangulating your position which each broadcast".

Being on the Abigal is a short term solution at best anyway.  They're going to need fuel soon as well as other supplies.  trust me, these folks are going to go ape**** the second they run out of toilet paper....they just don't have any survival instincts yet.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on April 12, 2016, 01:19 AM
I actually can buy the "early zombies do different stuff" because there was some element of that in TWD...  Remember Morgan's wife coming every night at Dusk to get in, then there's the zombies sitting down at places like church, or the diner in Rick's town... and they went dormant then because nothing disturbed them for what I assume is a very long time.

I can buy that.  It's even kinda neat.

What I hate is just how unlikable so many of these main people are...  Short of Travis (and he's a stretch to like), the black guy that owns the boat, and the spanish barber, I'm at a loss.  I'd just want to send the rest of them on sure and zip off to Alcatraz I think.

I'm just not enjoying this remotely as much as TWD, and TWD has had real ugh moments at times.  I can't watch this show without getting bored though, even in the action-y moments.  I can't even be bothered to remember anyone but Travis' name.  I don't even know why I remember his name, come to think of it.  Repetition maybe.

Thank god for GoT soon.  :(
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on April 12, 2016, 01:40 PM
Count me among those of you who are bored to tears... I'm going to give it some more time since every time they show the 'look at season 2' stuff it looks like there's some action in there, but 1 episode into season 2 and I'm wondering what the point of this show is.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on April 12, 2016, 02:12 PM
Funny, I stayed up until 2am one night to catch the last TWD shows because I was out of the country.  But I keep find excuses not to catch FTWD yet.  Disappointed to hear they haven't improved over the first season.  So much potential...
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on April 12, 2016, 09:37 PM
I was hoping for something....almost anything.  Ultimately I found it.

I felt like I was watching an episode of TWD Season 2 on the farm.  A lot of nothing happened, then something happened, but I didn't know what.  So I'll come back and see what kind of nothing happened that really isn't a big deal because it was nothing.

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on April 16, 2016, 08:45 AM
I just read FTWD has already gotten a Season 3 greenlight. 

I hope the acting and storyline improve dramatically in the next couple of episodes.

http://screenrant.com/fear-the-walking-dead-season-3-renewed-amc/
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Morgbug on April 16, 2016, 11:28 PM
I just read FTWD has already gotten a Season 3 greenlight. 

I hope the acting and storyline improve dramatically in the next couple of episodes.

http://screenrant.com/fear-the-walking-dead-season-3-renewed-amc/
Well that seems a little premature.  I'm sure it's based on numbers that tuned in for the premiere but really at this point it's like watching a car accident - you should look away but for some reason you can't. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on April 17, 2016, 10:39 PM
Reverse Gilligan's Island continues...

This episode was more interesting, but sort of a mocking of island survival plans of post-pockylips fans and with the obviousness that island family will suffer for our motley crew's visit.

"We know were not to go....where the budget cannot afford to take us!"

Good job, Nick, showing the little girl where the power pills were. You're family is great at get folks killed, out doing Rick Grimes.

Strand has a working cell phone? Satellite phone?

People were probably getting worried near the end...like they'd add a kid to the cast!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 18, 2016, 12:53 AM
Look like the Asian girl from the shorts is the survivor and new cast member.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on April 18, 2016, 09:32 AM
Look like the Asian girl from the shorts is the survivor and new cast member.

From the plane? That would be cool. I have to say those shorts were a lot more interesting than most of FTWD has been.

If you're planning to Jonestown the family, why would you ever make that known ahead of time? Those kids should not have even known about those pills.

So based on what I am seeing, if you are a non-heroin using teenager you pretty much just go nuts right away in the zombie apocalypse? You hate your dad, you start practicing to be a serial killer, you drink too much wine and talk to dangerous boys on the radio, etc. I love that Nick is the only one with any sort of a grip at all.

Wow, so Strand's big secret is an assault rifle and some maps? CALL THE FBI!!! At least he has the only working cell phone left in the universe. Will have to re-watch again next week to see what he actually said...all I got was "Ill be there".  ???

After all the boat drama at the end of last week I almost felt let down we didn't have a daring, open sea chase but I guess that might have blown the budget somehow.

I did like seeing the actress who played the Survivalist Mom again after all her years on The Shield. She always does a solid job.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Morgbug on April 18, 2016, 03:24 PM
At least he has the only working cell phone left in the universe. Will have to re-watch again next week to see what he actually said...all I got was "Ill be there".  ???


One of two - he was talking to someone else.  I'm assuming it's a satellite phone in hopes that they'd still be functional based on being in space, rather than cell towers that were nuked.  I think it's a stretch, but I'll somewhat allow for it. 

Family coping fine, our heroes show up, two of them die (at least).  Yippee!  Another reason to hate our merry band.  These people are dumb.  I really wish Strand would toss them all off the boat.  Still operating like it's a democracy for the bleeding hearts.  Blech. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jedi Idej on April 19, 2016, 09:19 PM
There was a gun shot blast that came from the house, right? Did Jonestown dad kill himself? Shoot his daughter? Get bitten while firing?

The show has a few interesting elements but a lot of "WTF" moments.

The plane crash survivor tie-in is a nice angle.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on April 19, 2016, 09:45 PM
I didn't recall a gunshot...  but then again my ability to actively pay attention to this like I do TWD is like night and day, and I'm sure I drift in and out of consciousness during FTWD frequently.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on April 20, 2016, 06:35 AM
I didn't recall a gunshot...  but then again my ability to actively pay attention to this like I do TWD is like night and day, and I'm sure I drift in and out of consciousness during FTWD frequently.

You're not the only one.  The gunshot was as everyone was getting back on the boat.

I don't remember the airplane crash tie in.  For me, that must have been one of my frequent moments to zone out.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jedi Idej on April 20, 2016, 11:59 PM
I got a lttle ahead of the storyline. The tie-in was shown on the preview for this week's episode. So no FTWD-ADD moment for you.  :P
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on April 24, 2016, 07:01 PM
Decisions, decisions...watch a taut, well crafted show with top notch writing and rich, well developed characters, or stick with this thing.   :D

Thrones it is!

Will I care enough to even watch this on-demand?  ???
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on April 24, 2016, 11:16 PM
Good thing there's scuba gear onboard and someone who knows how to use it.

How was the guy in the plane alive, since it's been at least a week+ since the place went down, right? Some time passed during the military quarantine, days at least and it's been days at sea.

We are to assume Alex offed the other guy on the boat after he tried something. Not that he was wrong, kid could die at any minute and turn into an undead. Which was why Strand was also kinda right.

The name of the episode is ouroboros, the symbol of the serpent eating itself. So that means...something.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 25, 2016, 01:43 AM
I'm not 100% sure of the timeline...but I'm guessing it's only been a couple of days since the plane crash and the group leaving LA.  Plausible that the guy could still be alive.

Anyone buying Strand's story about the house in Baja?  I'm not.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: dave in the basement on April 26, 2016, 02:52 PM
If I can talk the wife into it, I'm going to bow out of watching this and just follow along here. I have too many other good things on the ol' DVR that have to be better than this.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on April 27, 2016, 01:34 AM
I think you're right on the timeline Matt.  TWD seems to compress stuff too.  They don't seem to be that far removed from LA.  I didn't watch the last one.  I think in tappin out.  :-\
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on April 28, 2016, 06:00 PM
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Fear_The_Walking_Dead_Timeline (http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Fear_The_Walking_Dead_Timeline)

Plane goes down on day 4 or 5 of the show's timeline.

The Abigail's "crew" don't find the plane wreckage until day 19.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on April 29, 2016, 06:17 AM
Finally got around to watching this last night...........

and.....

that's about it.....

Seriously, this season reminds me so much of Season 2 of TWD.  Nothing happens the entire show until the last couple of minutes and you are left wondering what is going on, but you really don't care because none of the characters are really interesting.  It seems our meth head figured out really quick how to walk with the zombies.  However, he started running through the herd and nothing happened to him.  When Rick and Glen started going through the herd in Season 1, if they moved too quick the zombies would key on them.

I'll stick with the show if for no other reason than there is nothing else I'm interested in watching yet.  However, it won't be like TWD where I will  have to watch that night.  I'll get to it when I get to it.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on May 1, 2016, 10:14 PM
It took me til last night to catch up on this too. More of the same really, questionable decisions all around. Let's stand on the edge of a sandy cliff, let's walk into a confined space filled with walkers, let's waste time talking instead of furiously rifling through every suitcase, etc etc.

Will feel like a waste if I don't get to see at least two of these dopes get eaten before the season is over...
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on May 3, 2016, 09:37 AM
I watched Sunday's episode and it really wasn't bad.  They finally introduced some other characters and have finally created a real situation that has to be dealt with.  Again I go back to Season 2 of TWD and see it here.  It took a while for that season to get going and maybe this one finally is moving.  However, the characters are still a little stiff and haven't really hardened to the situation yet...except the druggie kid and the guy from Mexico.  Other than that, too many people still don't know what to do.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on May 3, 2016, 08:56 PM
Interesting how the family from Silverspoons is handling the apocalypse.  Things really fell apart at that household.

(That is Ricky Schroeder, right?  Has to be.)
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 3, 2016, 10:21 PM
I can't decide if Strand is actually gay or just really committed to a con.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on May 22, 2016, 11:57 PM
Anyone still watching? Anyone? Bueller?

Once again they destroy a good place.  Well, a decent place under the thumb of a nutty woman. What place will they bring doom to in season 2 part 2? Which son will out weird the other, Nick or Chris?

Can't hardly wait.  :-\
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on May 23, 2016, 03:44 PM
I'm still in.  Although it is not priority watching.  I watched "almost live" last night simply because there wasn't anything else to watch.

Last night had potential, and then it went to crap...kind of like a bunch of episodes.  The entire thing with the barber talking to ghosts was stupid.  (You can tell how awesome it is when I don't know his name).

I have said it before, this show does have potential to be good.  But it is so ADHD and won't focus on anything in particular except the craziness of a couple of people.  It's a lot like Season 2 of TWD in that there is so much standing around, talking, and then something gets going, only to be picked up again the next week....and then to be let down because nothing really happened.

I guess I'll keep doing what I'm doing.  I'll watch when there is time and when there is nothing else to watch.

FWIW, I DVRd "Colony" from USA and have enjoyed it after two episodes.  I know that is not remotely related to the subject at hand, but it jumped into my head.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on May 25, 2016, 08:28 PM
Just a big old let down in my book. Seriously, none of those dopes got eaten? Ruben Blades was about the most interesting character outside of Strand but I guess he won't be back? Meh.

It's like zombies are just an afterthought on this show. No real sense of imminent danger there like we see on TWD.

And back in August already? That seems too soon...
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 27, 2016, 08:08 AM
This last episode was not a good one to air going into hiatus.  Why the hell has Daniel gone bat-crap crazy after basically an afternoon at the hacienda?

Don't even get me started on Chris.

I just don't like how everyone in this show is acting like the folks in TWD when the apocalypse has only been going on for about 5 weeks in Fear.  TWD is at least 2 years into it!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on May 27, 2016, 09:43 PM
I watched the ending off an on the other night.  This how is pure ****.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on August 21, 2016, 08:47 PM
Hey, guess what's back tonight??

 :D
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on August 22, 2016, 06:35 AM
Hey, guess what's back tonight??

 :D

I watched and...listened...and watched...and waited for something to happen...and then nothing exciting happened.

This is so much like Season 2 of TWD.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Phrubruh on August 22, 2016, 09:53 AM
I stopped watching the TWD a long time ago because the plot moved like a zombie. It was easier to watch a 2x speed off the DVR.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 22, 2016, 11:55 AM
Nick tries to survive alone, then tries to die or something, whilst having flashbacks with some blonde girl who may have been the zombie in the first episode, but seems like a different actress.

He gets beaten with a baseball bat but not enough to be satisfying for the viewers.

Somewhere some pathetic people cry because the vicious dogs that attacked him were eaten by zombies. Even though it's just a tv show and they were fictional murderous dogs.

Armed thugs roam the highway killing everything for no reason but panic for some reason (Nick's trauma inducing gaze!) and 2 of them get eaten.  ??? Nick doesn't pick up their guns because he's in zombie mode. (I half expected him to started eating them, too.)

Somehow he walks 90 miles to Tijuana. Then the latina decides to help him, after earlier treating him like a FORD (found on road dead).

I didn't make it five minutes into Talking Dead. An hour of people talking about a boring episode of a series with a weak concept.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on August 22, 2016, 02:22 PM

I didn't make it five minutes into Talking Dead. An hour of people talking about a boring episode of a series with a weak concept.

Good summary!!

I can't stand Talking Dead.  Chris Hardwick is a boring star struck homer and is terrible to listen to.  I fast forward through that show just to watch the sneak peak of next week.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Dave on August 22, 2016, 02:58 PM

I didn't make it five minutes into Talking Dead. An hour of people talking about a boring episode of a series with a weak concept.

Good summary!!

Chris Hardwick is a boring star struck homer and is terrible to listen to.

I think his career peaked 20 years ago as a host on Singled Out.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on August 22, 2016, 03:58 PM
I did not realize he was the host of that show.  Damn I feel old.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on August 23, 2016, 02:44 AM
Fat guy had to get eaten...  fat guys can't survive this new world, I'm sorry.

I thought as this series goes, it was a ****load better than any previous episode.  And the character of Nick is kinda growing on me some because he's so vastly different.  Using the zombies multiple ways to save his life an'at, it's certainly a different perspective than this or TWD has ever really shown much outside of Michonne's pets, which was brief.  Rick's group's unwillingness to go stinky to do some good (or bad) annoys me, and it was nice to see someone who actually seems to enjoy the simpleness of doing just that to get along in the new world.

That said, it's still FTWD which isn't very good.  It was as good as they've ever done though, so I do like that it felt like some kind of upswing anyway.

I'm curious to see what's going on with everyone else.  I'd kind of given up on this show but caught the season finale before the new one, so I watched the new episode anyway, and man last season's finale was as stupid as anything I've seen on TV in a long time.  This episode felt far more interesting and subtle. 

I'm 100% sure I will be back to hating just about everyone on this show within the next 2 episodes and I'll quit watching it once more.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on August 23, 2016, 08:59 AM
I thought this was the worst episode yet, and that's saying a lot.  So much filler and dead space.  Yes, we get that Nick's alone and needs to be resourceful to survive.  I didn't need that hammered home over and over, and I really didn't need to see him drink his piss.  There's zero suspense in this show.  Horns blare when convenient, bad guys have no motivation for their actions, even the 20 minutes of flashbacks was a waste.  Is there any self realization or unlocked mysteries the past helped solve?  Nope.  Just a bunch of zombies that all cluster together and walk at the exact same pace for mile after mile.  I am mad at myself for continuing to spend time on this garbage.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BillCable on August 23, 2016, 10:36 AM
I quit after season 1, and am a better person for it.   8)
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 23, 2016, 12:42 PM
I am mad at myself for continuing to spend time on this garbage.

Amen. Yet I'll be tuned in next Sunday...................
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 23, 2016, 08:09 PM
LOL. Not much to watch in the summer.

The Strain returns this weekend, I think. It's a better show. I mean, it's still chock full of stupid, but at least it has characters worth a damn.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: evenflow on August 27, 2016, 09:05 PM
I fast forwarded through most of it.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on August 28, 2016, 02:04 PM

The Strain returns this weekend, I think. It's a better show. I mean, it's still chock full of stupid, but at least it has characters worth a damn.

I'm all in on The Strain, it's my favorite thing on TV. I know there are better shows, but none that I enjoy more.  :)

I actually liked the FTWD premiere way more than I thought I would. Which only underscores my feeling that everyone else not named Nick or Strand is completely worthless and irritating on this show. It was so nice not to have to sit through their unending, inane emotional problems.

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 29, 2016, 12:45 AM
Woah...this episode was almost better....then the Extra-Stupid kicked it. Nick gets it from his mother. Suicidal from his dad, stupid substance abuser from his mom.

Piano music motivates the dead but not the constant soothing sounds of the ocean. Maybe Strand just sucks, like how he thinks he's a great seducer. Oh, the falling four or five stories and then getting up walkers. Right.

No hotel food, but they left the booze. I don't care how bad things are, they'd have taken the liquor.

Nick swiping cakes. DELICIOUS HOSTESS TWINKIES...Mexican version. He stole 40 cakes, that's as much as four tens and that's terrible.

Nick is drawn to cults like a moth to flame.

Ofelia, maybe she cut and run...hopefully to find better people.

Abigail...gone? But they built those sets. So not gone 4 long. Alex will show up in it and remind us all that her story was not really that interesting. She could never appear again and it wouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on August 29, 2016, 08:26 AM
Yep, back to stupid form this week. They figured out that once you're bitten there is no coming back, but don't realize that sound attracts walkers?

At first I thought the orphan girl just jumped out the window and the walkers were following her, but I guess they heard the piano music twenty floors up?  ::)

They did a piss poor job packing that shopping cart. I could have gotten a hell of a lot more in there. And there was no room for the Mexican snack cakes?

Did the gang guys just trust that they would come back with loads of Oxycontin? That whole exchange made little sense to me.

How come the relatively healthy looking dad had to walk the plank but not the half dead gringo in the lawn chair?

Did Nick's dad drive into traffic to kill himself? That seemed to be implied but I don't see how she would possibly really know that. Maybe he just spaced out.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: GrandMoffNick on August 29, 2016, 11:48 AM

And there was no room for the Mexican snack cakes?


Even with all the stupidness the above is what annoyed me the most. You couldn't stick some "snowballs" in the cart, as opposed to sneaking them out, that you were getting from the drug cartel guy who "will hang you for looking at him funny"?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 29, 2016, 11:55 AM
If she'd just let Nick get the snack cakes, whole thing could've been avoided. LOL.

Is Kim Dickens  now a regular on the Talking Dead. I didn't watch it.

The Strain was better, but Nora's absence went unmentioned. And their time line is off. It's got to have been longer than 23 days since the flight landed.  Ephram is working on the bio weapon and Setrakian is well into the Lumen, so some time has passed since the end of last season.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 5, 2016, 12:39 AM
In this episode two dumb characters ally themselves with people worse than themselves. Nice manager lady who decides to contain the sickness by locking a zombie in with a room full of people. The American youths who are violent and stupid as hell.  Chris is psycho and a fool...for not telling Travis what was going on.

Maybe Ofelia made it someplace nice and never sees any of these idiots again.

Oh, we are told the father of the bride died of a heart attack. Because the intriguing idea that this is a sickness that is infecting and killing people outright is too interesting to pursue. Or should we even believe a hotel employee...she's no doctor.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 5, 2016, 04:20 PM
I actually liked the opening scene with the wedding and the manager locking everyone in the ballroom.  The family wouldn't run away and leave infected family members behind.  There was a lot of cool subtle things in that scene that I liked.  It was interesting to see later on that some of the wedding party made it out and are surviving...which alludes to their break-out of the ballroom being a catalyst for the dead overtaking the hotel.

Then we get to the Chris/Travis storyline and it all goes to hell.  Someone needs to put a bullet in Chris and probably Travis shortly after.  All I could think of when he shot the farmer was "Holy **** Morty!  You purged!"  He's a complete sociopath at this point...have him look at the flowers already!  Travis is only alive by pure dumb luck.  He was right about trying to leave the farm and not harming the fater...but he won't stand up to his son and get away from the glaringly obvious **** strom that is the frat boy zombie apocalypse gang!  None of those idiots deserve to survive at this point.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 5, 2016, 05:59 PM
It was a mistake to tell the frat pack about San Diego. Should've said "Good luck."

I'd forgotten that his supposed to be 2010. So when Travis saw the graves. I was like, oh, the people died years ago.  :P
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on September 5, 2016, 09:05 PM

Then we get to the Chris/Travis storyline and it all goes to hell.  Someone needs to put a bullet in Chris and probably Travis shortly after.  All I could think of when he shot the farmer was "Holy **** Morty!  You purged!"  He's a complete sociopath at this point...have him look at the flowers already!  Travis is only alive by pure dumb luck.  He was right about trying to leave the farm and not harming the fater...but he won't stand up to his son and get away from the glaringly obvious **** strom that is the frat boy zombie apocalypse gang!  None of those idiots deserve to survive at this point.

Plus Travis was idiotic to ever come out of hiding when those guys first found them anyway. Try pulling that **** down in GA and those guys would be raping you or eating you or both before you could whistle Dixie.

"We're not going to kill you over a can of beans! We just wanted to follow you for a few hundred miles and say hi"

I was really disappointed when I realized that Walker in the bar wasn't Madison.

Ophilia must be some kind of secret Ninja badass to have gotten out of there without being eaten or spotted by anyone.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 7, 2016, 01:56 AM
Ophilia must be some kind of secret Ninja badass to have gotten out of there without being eaten or spotted by anyone.

She doesn't need to be, she merely jumped off the balcony of whatever room she was in, got up and walked away.

What takes me out of the moment for this show is that CLEARLY whoever is running the show has never watched a single episode of TWD. I don't care if those walkers had only been dead for a couple of days, just like any human body that falls out of a building 15+ stories up - it goes "splat" when it hits the ground and even if it doesn't go "splat", every bone in the body would be shattered and regardless of the mindless "will" of the virus, there would be nothing that walker could do to get up and actually walk. That was courtesy of the wonderful writing last week.

This week it was father-of-the-bride who dies of a heart attack and turns in under a minute. Meanwhile, back in season one, Andrea holds her sister all night waiting for her to turn. I don't care if you turn instantly or if it takes time, but whatever it is - STICK WITH IT.

Every time I see a new group of people get introduced, I am hopeful that it means there is a chance of pruning some of the show's "regulars" - at this point, I could care less if Madison, Strand, Travis, Chris, Nick, Ofelia or Alicia were all to die - and a new group, like say for example the survivors of the wedding party and the hotel manager are the new group that we follow.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 7, 2016, 01:16 PM
That's the horror anyone can turn instantly (as fast as the story requires).

And the undead are more motivated by piano music than all other noises.

While the manager and guests didn't check it out at all? Did they think it was a trap by the other side?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 11, 2016, 11:21 PM
This week a plan almost worthy of Rick Grimes. Almost, because this plan somehow didn't get anyone killed....yet.

So the mother is mad at the manager because her daughter died, but her daughter was doomed when she got bit.

It wasn't that bad this week. I guess.

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on September 13, 2016, 05:21 PM
I didn't miss Chris and Travis at all.

The mom and daughter storyline is vaguely interesting but Strand seems wasted so far this season.

Feel like there is a palpable lack of chemistry between Nick and Lucinda, but she is bound to die anyway I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on September 14, 2016, 06:27 AM
Well, I felt this week was a pretty "decent" episode.  I say that loosely.  However, the mom/daughter relationship looks to have potential.  Nick looks like he's getting his head screwed on and could go somewhere cool.  So we'll see.

Maybe the writers are finally figuring this out and will make a decent show out of this yet...I'm being optimistic.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 19, 2016, 12:03 AM
Not a terrible episode, except after building Madison as semi-competent, they shoot her down again!

Crazy wedding mama's gonna get more people killed.

And we have to go back to Travis and Chris next week, then for the finale something after that.

Z-Nation's season premiere moved faster than that. Sure, it was stupid, but...they don't drag their heels.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on September 19, 2016, 03:54 PM
There's too many characters now. They need to kill a LOT of people. Soon.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on September 20, 2016, 06:23 AM
Dear god it looked like FTWD was going somewhere, then it did, but nothing happened.  Two more episodes to hope something happens.  Seriously, is anything going to happen?

As for Z Nation, I'm about halfway through the episode and I love the hokiness.  It doesn't take itself too seriously, and is for the most part an enjoyable zombie show.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on September 21, 2016, 08:28 AM
Hahaha, Psycho Chris was on Agents of Shield last night. Hopefully he will be moving there permanently.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Pete_Fett on September 21, 2016, 12:01 PM
Hahaha, Psycho Chris was on Agents of Shield last night. Hopefully he will be moving there permanently.

I certainly hope not. But I did say to my wife - wonder if this means he's not long for FTWD.

I would not be upset one bit if both Travis and Chris were killed by the end of this season.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 25, 2016, 11:45 PM
That was an episode. Kept expecting something dark to emerge from Travis's story, instead...it was kinda what you'd think.

You are too stupid to survive if you cannot realize that its better to have egg laying chickens than just to just eat the chickens.

And Madison tells Alicia the truth about her father's death that none of us in the audience give a rat's butt about. It all makes sense, living with that family, you'd want to end it all, too.

Everyone will be together by the end of the two-hour series...damn...only season finale.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on September 26, 2016, 09:51 AM
I was waiting/hoping for a "look at the rabbits, Lenny!" moment too. Dammit.

Travis - " I let Chris ride away...and I'm completely devastated"

Madison - "Yeah, we let Nick walk away too, for no reason, but I'm doing ok"  ::)

There is no way in hell those jackasses wind up at the same hotel. They were in a car driving at top speed, in a completely different direction than Travis was walking. San Diego is nowhere near Tijuana. That is just bad writing.

What, Ophelia didn't see the hotel beacon too?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on September 26, 2016, 03:47 PM
Why haven't these idiots started digging through homes looking for useful bits of...I don't know...guns, weapons, bottled water, food, etc...  I know they're in a hotel and all, but dear god they are dumb.

Too many stupid people.  Too many non-decisions and too much BS.  This show drives me nuts with how you think something is going to happen, something builds, and then nothing happens.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 3, 2016, 12:51 AM
Travis finally gets to bust some skulls...literally.

Buh-bye to one survivor. Shall not be missed.

Madison still sucks.

Strand strands-self. Why? This strand of the plot isn't needed.

Bad guys still suck at being bad guys, shooting in the air to celebrate nothing, then unable to cohesively defend themselves against a hoard despite navigating through them moments before.

School Bus of the Undead Part 2! Such a reliable vehicle for the pharmacist to committ Pharmacide!

There should be tons of goods to loot from the gang's vehicles. Which, of course, they left unguarded.

Nick is still a fool, why did he think it was a refugee camp?  They'd have better luck going home, luring the heard back to the "wall".
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on October 3, 2016, 06:21 AM
I wasn't terribly impressed with any new revelations.  However, I wasn't disappointed either.  Travis finally realized the way things are and took care of some business.  The plot still moved at a snail's pace, but it did offer some hope that Season 3 will have some good stuff.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on October 3, 2016, 08:56 AM
I thought these were the two best episodes of the whole show so far. I think I probably woke up my kids shouting at Travis to keep beating the living **** out of those two dirtbags. That scene was great.

Stuff that didn't make sense - the whole thing with how the other guy got hurt. I thought Travis was in there alone with those two kids. I didn't even notice what happened. That dude probably should have hid in a corner or something and waited it out. Also, wtf with the "don't look behind the curtain" walker in the colonia. Guy just pops out of nowhere and starts eating people faces?

Strand was utterly wasted this whole season, Will we ever see him again?

Yeah, shocking that the "let's head to the military base" plan didn't work out. Because it always does in every apocalyptic disaster movie I've ever seen.  ::)
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 3, 2016, 12:59 PM
I think the other guy got into the room when they got the keys but Travis slammed his head and then relocked the door.

Once they found out his condition, they should've left ASAP.

The silent zombies thing again.

I guess Strand has to stay at the hotel so the mother of the bride can get loose and try to kill him again. Really, they should've left that hotel behind entirely.

Notice the gang's warehouse was empty...so where did all the stuff go? They should panel trucks of crap if they took it with them to la colonia.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on October 5, 2016, 11:16 AM
I can't put my finger on it, but I'm having a really hard time caring about this show compared to the regular one.  Maybe because it's referential... maybe because the characters aren't as dynamic or interesting... maybe because the writing just isn't as good and doesn't encompass much that we haven't already seen and done in the original... but I'm still very meh on the whole thing, even if it's slowly getting better.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on October 6, 2016, 06:21 AM
Rob, I think that nails down what I've thought overall.  I keep watching just to get my zombie fill, but even that is fading.

I'll probably just stick with it to see what ends up happening, but unlike TWD, this gets put on the DVR and watched as time presents itself.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 6, 2016, 11:59 AM
Some one IMDB said "We are actually watching a show about a group of villains".

No, not that interesting.

On TWD when the group split up you'd want them to reunite. In FTWD, they split voluntarily and getting back together seems like a bad idea for some of them. Strand shouldn't have to deal with the family's crap, and neither should Ofelia.

They could've left the pharmacist's immunity a mystery, but had to explain outright that we wasn't, so to return to status quo on the zombie front.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on October 6, 2016, 01:13 PM
Rob, I think that nails down what I've thought overall.  I keep watching just to get my zombie fill, but even that is fading.

I'll probably just stick with it to see what ends up happening, but unlike TWD, this gets put on the DVR and watched as time presents itself.

And if enough people feel that way, this show doesn't have more than a season or two left...
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on October 6, 2016, 06:34 PM
I bailed again.  I may catch up on it out of simple curiosity but yeah, it really sucks.  For whatever reason the people are terribly uninteresting compared to the original.  Guess you can't catch lightning in a bottle twice.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on October 7, 2016, 05:20 PM

And if enough people feel that way, this show doesn't have more than a season or two left...

Yep.  I'm assuming many people watching the show are like me in that they wouldn't leave it on the DVR if it were a truly gripping show.  The writing isn't that great.  The acting is cardboard.  And the story pace is very slow.  With that in mind, why would I race to watch?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 8, 2016, 11:17 AM
They could've left the pharmacist's immunity a mystery, but had to explain outright that we wasn't, so to return to status quo on the zombie front.

This reveal really bothered me. At the end of the day, there has yet to be a virus on this planet that affects EVERYONE - even the worst of them - there is always a percentage of the population that is naturally resistant to it. This show could have introduced something truly unique to the Walking Dead mythos by saying definitively "yes, there are some people immune to the virus that turns you into a walker but it's like .1% of .1% of the total population".

That would have been interesting to me, because that would mean that there is a chance that at some point there *COULD* be a cure/resolution. Perhaps the people behind the show/comic don't want that and that's why they ended up making him a fraud, I dunno.


Some one IMDB said "We are actually watching a show about a group of villains".


If the show is indeed about a group of people who end up becoming a group of villains, then they're doing a really lousy job at being villains so far. Villains would have killed the family on the lighthouse island and tried to set up a compound there. Villains would have tried to take over the boat colony people after killing the leader so easily. Villains would have told the hotel workers to live with Travis beating to death those two ****-heads or be beaten to death themselves. Sorry, but that is a FTWD apologist trying to justify that this show is even worth watching.

I think this show is doing nothing but actually HURTING the popularity of the Walking Dead franchise and combined with the cop-out of not knowing who Neagan killed at the end of last season, I would not be surprised at all if the October 23rd premier of this next season of TWD has LOWER ratings than last season. I honestly hope it does because it will hopefully make the people who write the checks for this show take notice and realize that maybe it's time to pull back a little with multiple shows and stop with gimmicks like forced cliff-hangers.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on October 8, 2016, 11:37 AM
I caught up on most of the latest episodes yesterday.  Just two more to go.  For me, this show feels like a foreign bootleg of a figure.  It's interesting because it's closely related to something you really like, but it also looks cheap with glaring flaws.  You'd put it in your collection as a novelty, but it doesn't hold a candle to the official product you know and love. 

Yeah, the characters are all pretty lame.  No, I don't like watching the majority of the show through subtitles.  Of course the family drama is completely overdone.  But what bugs me most about the show is that they don't follow the "rules" of the original show. 

 - The zombies are conveniently slow and non-threatening outside of anyone purposely trying to kill themselves.
 - At times they just wander - why aren't they all pressing up at the fence at the colonia?
 - The zombies all walk in tidy, convenient packs.  That group Nick ran into on the road earlier in the season all just walk in a tight group?  At the same speed?  Staying in the confines of the road? 
 - I can't stand the way everyone just slaps on a little zombie blood and suddenly they're invisible to the undead.  TWD uses this sparingly and makes a big deal of it when they do it, and there's still a constant threat of it not working. 
 - Why would the mob of zombies just keep walking off that pier? 
 - Was the soft piano music really enough to attract zombies several floors up?
 - How did anyone ever get infected?  You can fight off hoards of zombies with a busted wine bottle.

I know it's hard to defend "realism" in a show about zombies, but that's really what it comes down to for me.  TWD feels like a constant, real threat.  FTWD feels like a cheap tabloid trying to capitalize on the latest buzz of the original.  The only truly interesting thing they have going is that Alejandro somehow survived that bite.  I wonder if we'll find out it was something other than a zombie bite or if there's some real clue here to the origins of the virus. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Pete_Fett on October 8, 2016, 05:47 PM
The only truly interesting thing they have going is that Alejandro somehow survived that bite.  I wonder if we'll find out it was something other than a zombie bite or if there's some real clue here to the origins of the virus.

Oh, are you going to be disappointed... don't read my post previous post if you don't want to find out...
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on October 10, 2016, 01:17 PM
Finally caught the end of season 2.  I liked that the action was heating up and they tied up a lot of storylines.  They really shrunk the cast back down, offing Chris and leaving Strand behind, so hopefully that sets us up for better characters in S3.  I would have liked some of the hotel peeps to go with them - the doctor and Hector seemed like good additions to the cast.  Not sure what that crossfire at the border gates was all about, but it will be nice to get the crew back in the states again to at least get rid of the constant subtitles. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 5, 2017, 11:09 AM
So it took 3 seasons and two episodes, but Travis finally made a good decision.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on June 5, 2017, 09:33 PM
Did he kill everyone else? ;D
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 5, 2017, 10:32 PM
Even better.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on June 6, 2017, 02:37 AM
Infiltrated AMC and cancelled FTWD?  Hmmm 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on June 6, 2017, 10:26 AM
I actually thought that might have been the best episode of the show yet.  I'm hoping that they've realized they need to make this show way better.  But the fact that they've just arrived at a compound of untrustworthy people makes me worry that they're about to turn the show into the same thing that TWD has become.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 6, 2017, 02:06 PM
I share the same trepidation, Rob, but there's only one so far they know they cannot trust and perhaps, they can each earn the trust of the rest of the preppers.  When we were watching the show I said to my wife, I bet these guys are actually pretty good, or at least trying to do good, but they wouldn't be shown that way at first.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on June 7, 2017, 09:14 AM
Well, I guess that wasn't all bad.  I finally got around to watching FTWD in two stints yesterday and actually found myself enjoying what was going on.

I must say I was a bit shocked about Travis, but didn't really "feel" much for the situation.  Like some have mentioned, I hope they don't turn this into a situation like TWD where it is find a safe spot, deal with a bad guy, move on, and then rinse and repeat. 

With this episode though, it looks like the writers actually listened a bit and wrote a good story that wasn't all over the place.  Now if I can develop a level of concern for the characters, we're good to go.  I'd actually like to see this story evolve into something where they actually trust and work together with the people they are currently with.  That would be an interesting direction to go.  That said, I hope they don't decide to start looking for the hill people who shot at the helicopter.  To me, that would be a serious waste of resources.  But again, it appears as if the head honcho (Unser from SOA) seems to have his head screwed on and wants to give some space to his new people.  We'll see if that's just a hook to suck them in or an honest attempt to do well by others.

All in all, a really good episode for this show, probably the best so far.  While not completely turning around my opinion of the show, I look forward to seeing what happens and hopefully this show will finally get going.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 7, 2017, 04:26 PM
You know Madison is going to look for the hill people within the next two episodes.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on June 8, 2017, 03:25 PM
I thought these first two episodes were great.  Relatively speaking for the series anyway.  I thought there was some interesting zombie action and the new camp holds some possibility.  I thought we'd have a lot of episodes with the cast trying to reconnect, so glad they condensed that down to a quick reunion.  I didn't fully understand the initial camp they were brought to - seemed like a bunch of guy's under the one brother's control, then suddenly most of them answered to the other brother.  The testing on people was a concept worth exploring, but it all felt a little unexplained to me. 

The Travis/Hill People thing was quite a surprise after he just survived the previous ordeal.  I couldn't quite see, but did he reveal a zombie bite to Alecia in addition to the gunshot wound?  Figured that was the gist of the whole thing, but I couldn't quite see it.  Much as I liked the surprise, the whole helicopter scene seemed a bit goofy to me.  They were flying pretty high up, but had bullets coming through the front windshield?  And why were people so close to the side doors anyway?  Travis is half sitting out the side door when they take off and the helicopter banks to turn...I would think that's a fairly unsafe way for someone inexperienced with a helicopter to ride along.  I think they have to explore where those shots came from...pretty silly for random people to be shooting at a chopper and it never gets resolved.  Anyone know how far along the timeline we are with this story?  For them to have gone to Mexico and back it feels like we're at least 3-4 months into the infection.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Dave on June 9, 2017, 10:01 AM
I've never seen FTWD but based on previews and the discussion it seems like there are camps/groups that are much more functional than on the east coast with Rick and the crew.  Rick woke up from his coma (a couple of weeks?) and the whole east coast was essentially zombified.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on June 9, 2017, 11:40 AM
It's actually pretty similar between the two shows.  FTWD is in Southern California, so less countryside than what we typically see in TWD.  Rick woke up in a small town just outside of Atlanta, and what we saw when he reached Atlanta is that the heavily populated areas seem to get overrun first/fast.  Zombies's aren't that tough to deal with in small numbers, but bigger populations seem to fall fast.  That's the problem with all these different camps in both shows and the comics.  If you create a defensible position to keep the walkers out, that's great, but how do you handle people that die inside the walls?  I would think between malnourishment, stress, and disease (let alone walker bites and fighting with other survivors), it wouldn't take long for someone to die, then start wiping out the population from the inside.  They touched on that a little with the flu at the prison, but I'm surprised there aren't protocols for places like Alexandrea or the Sanctuary to better prevent an outbreak from within. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on June 11, 2017, 10:12 PM
I was gonna quit this show, but I heard the premiere was decent. So I watched the reruns tonight only for the 3rd new episode to be a boar.  :P

I was expecting Madison to kill the latina. She's crazy enough.

Strand's car ride ended to early...needed a season of him cruising the apocalypse.

Is Travis really dead? Really? REALLY?

Preppers were right...just unaware the urban hordes would be undead!

If anyone did fan edits they could've had Madison put in the Winnebago guy's video tape.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 12, 2017, 01:41 PM
Travis better be dead.  He was shot through the neck and fell out of a helicopter that was a few hundred feet in the air!

Episode three was a bit slower, but they needed to establish the characters in the prepper ranch, so it wasn't that big a deal to me.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on June 12, 2017, 03:28 PM
Travis better be dead.  He was shot through the neck and fell out of a helicopter that was a few hundred feet in the air!

AND he was bit, right?  Am I dreaming this?  Wish they had showed it a little better, but I took it that's why Alicia didn't try to stop him. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on June 12, 2017, 07:20 PM
Just rewatch and it becomes...not much clearer actually. Travis might have been shot in the chest, too. That looks like guts hanging, out, not something you can hide for hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EtOn_WpS7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EtOn_WpS7w)

I thought he was bitten. I rewatched the first ep of the season because I missed the first 20 minutes and all the reactions Travis makes after getting out of the pit of walkers imply that he's hiding something and when he's on the copter away from Madison, there's a look like he won't see her again.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on June 14, 2017, 12:40 PM
I think that has to be a walker bite.  When he gets shot in the neck, he reacts and holds it.  No reaction to a shot anywhere else.  Plus that shot comes in on his left.  Unless they are surrounded by shooters on both sides, a wound on his right seems odd.  If I was shot in the neck, not sure I would voluntarily kill myself when they're under 20 minutes from help.  But Travis decides in seconds to jump out of the chopper when he asks Alicia to help him with the door.  I think he was planning to ditch if the bite got too bad during the flight, so the shot in his neck just solidified it. 

I also feel a lot better about the story if he held off dozens of undead, but was unfortunately snagged by one vs. Travis being a monster zombie killer, but dying shortly after proving himself because of a random stray bullet.   
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on June 19, 2017, 05:56 PM
Ruben Blades episode...

It was okay...maybe a bit contrived that the dam villain (lol) knew who/what Salazar was. 

Lightning kills walkers. That was important to know.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on June 30, 2017, 09:15 AM
I was equal parts amused, shocked, and disappointed in that scene.  I guess overall it's cool to have seen lightning take out a zombie.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on July 6, 2017, 09:56 AM
This weekend 2 hour mid-season finale...already. Why are they burning through the show with 2 hour blocks? Something more important to air on sundays?

Each member of Madison's family seems to be seducing one of prepper family...or something.

Troy mercy killed the fleeing family, seriously, they'd never made it to where ever. Yeah, that's it.

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 6, 2017, 12:57 PM
Someone needs to put a bullet in Try's head.  Unfortunately, it won't be Madison, I have no clue what she's trying to do with him other than maybe being able to point him at a threat.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on July 6, 2017, 05:14 PM
I haven't even bothered to post in here my level of interest has been so low. I don't think it has gotten any better at all, except for Chris not being on anymore. I'm so so sick of bad people more bad people other bad people blah blah blah. I really think the writers need to try harder to come up with something new and interesting.

And more zombies!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on July 10, 2017, 01:13 AM
Epic mid-season finale.

Who'd have thought the native-americans were the ones in right...except everyone. And that the Poppa Otto prepper was much racist and evil than he let on? Oh, everyone.

Nick cut his hair!  :o

Why was old man Otto out in the desert patrolling the border fence?  Who cares? We gotta tie Ophelia into this mess. In the process we make her less sympathetic, because she got duped into murdering people.

The good parts were Strand finding the Abigail. The talk with the cosmonaut was oddly sort of done in Z-NATION already.

Madison has a dark secret. *shrug* I assume most high school guidance counselors are messed up.

Yeah, this show looked like it was improving, but went back to semi-watchable.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 10, 2017, 12:00 PM
I liked the conversation with the Cosmonaut.  I liked that we finally have confirmation that this is a global event (it might have been touched on when Rick & Company went to the CDC in season one, but I can't remember).  Although now I feel like I need to scrap my story idea of a zombie apocalypse being witnessed by a crew of a space station and eventually coming back to Earth because of dwindling supplies and the chance to find/make a cure.

Other than that and the Indians finding a way to weaponize anthrax without a lab, I couldn't help but laugh.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on July 12, 2017, 08:12 AM
Okay, this show has gotten me back some.  This season has been decent for the most part, and a far cry from the first two.  I do agree a lot of it was predictable, but at least it's going somewhere other than "let's sit around and talk about our feelings."

Of course, I would have liked to have seen more about what Strand was up to this episode.  I'd also like an update on Daniel.  I imagine we'll find that out in a few weeks though.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BrentS on October 3, 2017, 05:29 PM
Anyone still watching this show?  I've found this half season to be a little better than the past seasons but still nothing like "appointment viewing".  I am suprised by the dumb choices the characters keep making but lets face it... that's a hallmark of the Walking Dead franchises.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 3, 2017, 05:38 PM
I still can't believe these people are still alive.

Why didn't the people hide in the bunker before the horde showed up?  The reason the barricade of RVs didn't work is because the zombies knew there was fresh meat right on the other side!  They could've hid in the bunker and the horde would've passed right by.  And why the hell did Alicia go through all of that just to become her brother from last season?!  Idiotic writing at its worst.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: McMetal on October 3, 2017, 08:31 PM
I officially quit watching for this back half. I hate the writing, I hate the characters, it was just a labor to sit through a whole episode.

Maybe I will go back and watch when the season is over, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 4, 2017, 02:29 PM
I stopped FTWD watching after the mid season break. I caught the third episode in after the break and was not lost. Think about that. So little happened, so unengaging are the characters that I can miss 2 episodes of a serialized show and felt like I've missed nada. After that it wasn't even conscious decision not to watch. I just plain forgot it was still on.   :-\

I'm wondering with all the lawsuits if TWD itself will go beyond this season.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on October 4, 2017, 02:51 PM
I actually think the last few episodes have been the best in the series so far.  I'd agree that it can get better, and I'd also agree that it needs some more compelling characters, but it feels to me like maybe it's headed in the right direction.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 5, 2017, 11:24 PM
If there's ever a cross-over with the main show everyone on Fear The Walking Dead better show up as walkers.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on October 6, 2017, 04:07 PM
I usually get around to watching this within 3-4 days after it's on, but it certainly isn't "must watch" for me.  This season,especially the past 3-4 episodes have been markedly better than everything before.  I still have no real connection to any character and seeing one of the main ones getting offed wouldn't bother me to much.  I'm starting to be intrigued by the former solider (can't remember his name though) and by Nick, but overall, it's still just a show that I'll watch while cruising the internet.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: evenflow on October 6, 2017, 04:56 PM
The saddest part is that i think this is more entertaining than what the Walking Dead has become.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on October 16, 2017, 05:51 PM
Anybody watch the FTWD season finale?

Where in the world have these writers been the past couple of years?  The last 2-3 episodes have been pretty freaking good IMO.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on October 16, 2017, 07:04 PM
I did, and I agree.  They seem to have turned a corner as far as making this show at least fun to watch.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BrentS on October 27, 2017, 10:33 AM
Finally finsihed watching the finale... Yes, this season has been much better.  Interesting to see that they managed to destroy two viable "home bases" in half a season  ;D  I'm actually reasonably interested to see how everyone gets back together now.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 7, 2018, 07:18 AM
Just thought I'd post in this FTWD thread. No reason........
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on May 7, 2018, 11:29 AM
Forgot we had a thread on this.

Anyway, I'll repeat my thoughts from the other thread.

Another solid episode last night.  I like the flashback style of episodes this season.  It's allowed the storytelling to go on without getting bogged down in mindless details or moral debates.

Cool twist at the end.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 12, 2018, 12:58 AM
Just watched the midseason of Fear.


I have a feeling we are being played with the character death.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on June 12, 2018, 08:27 AM
Just watched the midseason of Fear.


I have a feeling we are being played with the character death.

Agreed...nobody is dead until you see them killed on screen.  I'll say, this season of FTWD has been really, really solid and a massive improvement over everything we've seen from that show so far.  I'll go so far as to see it's been even better than season 7/8 of TWD.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 12, 2018, 11:25 PM
The Talking Dead was the giveaway for me.  The actress kept talking about the character in a present tense.

It reminded me of Glenn and the dumpster.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on June 13, 2018, 06:15 PM
The Talking Dead was the giveaway for me.  The actress kept talking about the character in a present tense.

It reminded me of Glenn and the dumpster.

I gave up on that show a loooong time ago.  I can't stand Hardwick.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 13, 2018, 10:43 PM
I usually just fast forward through it to see the bonus clip of the next episode, but I wanted to see a bit of the interview this week.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on June 13, 2018, 11:44 PM
I usually just fast forward through it to see the bonus clip of the next episode, but I wanted to see a bit of the interview this week.

Lol I do the same thing.  I zip past Hardwick...

We get it dude you hate sports.  Fack!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on July 5, 2018, 10:26 PM
Replace it with a 1/2 hour blooper show with gag reels from TWD/FTWD episodes...oh, but then they'd have to pay the cast again.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on July 9, 2018, 01:02 PM
Agreed...nobody is dead until you see them killed on screen. 

So when does Travis show up? 

"I survived the fall, just barely, and was nursed back to health by a peppy band of outcasts... it took me 3 years to regain the ability to walk.  I've been looking for you ever since."
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 9, 2018, 11:21 PM
Travis was bit, shot through the neck and then he fell out of the helicopter.  Pretty much an on screen death.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on July 10, 2018, 10:08 AM
Travis was bit, shot through the neck and then he fell out of the helicopter.  Pretty much an don screen death.

Yeah, that would be a bit tough to come back from.   ;)  Agree that we probably haven't seen the last of Maddie though...
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on July 10, 2018, 01:07 PM
Travis was bit, shot through the neck and then he fell out of the helicopter.  Pretty much an don screen death.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/012/877/3qafhk.jpg)
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 10, 2018, 03:06 PM
Thanks Rob...I just spit coffee everywhere!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 12, 2018, 10:48 PM
So Fear starts back up again tonight.  The mid-season finale is being rebroadcast with additional footage.

Also, have y'all seen the new trailer for TWD's new season?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: BrentS on August 23, 2018, 09:33 AM
I finally just got caught up with Fear after leaving it on the DVR for weeks.  I really enjoyed the last half season - the best yet for the show and better than the last two seasons of Walking Dead.  I'm worried about the direction of this half of the season though.  I feel like its going to be a lot of individual stories of them wandering around in during and after the storm and will all come together at the end... and then probably take a big road trip out East. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 23, 2018, 11:29 AM
I agree with you Brent that the next few episodes will be about this groups' various POVs during the storm....I still think something is going to keep them from heading back East though.  I don't see them merging the two shows quite yet.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Dave on August 23, 2018, 11:45 AM
I've never read the comics.  Is there any FOTWD story line in the comics, or is it all Rick and crew east coast focused?  Are any of the FOTWD characters ones that eventually appear in the comics?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 23, 2018, 03:02 PM
I've never read the comics.  Is there any FOTWD story line in the comics, or is it all Rick and crew east coast focused?  Are any of the FOTWD characters ones that eventually appear in the comics?

FTWD is a completely different storyline....nothing in the comics at all.  The comic is basically Rick's story.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on October 1, 2018, 09:58 PM
Follow the Walking Morgan should be the name of the show, seems to be what half of the episodes are now. Lennie James has improved it, though. Not sure how he became their leader, but...for an ex-cop, John whats-his-face doesn't have much initiative. I'm sick of Al and her friggin' tapes.  Strand's character seems stranded, and I suspect will be the next to perish.  Diary of  Martha the Mad Black Woman is dead after not being killed like she should've been 10 times over. Gotta admire the type of crazy that opens hundreds of bottles of water and puts anti-freeze in them. Of course in our world, anti-freeze has color to it, so you know, you won't mistake it for water.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jesse James on October 2, 2018, 03:19 AM
Lot of coolants now have bittering agents added...  not sure how long that has been going on or if itís all brands and types tho.  I didnít see how they did the coolant in bottles thing but it takes time to kill someone with it and it takes a good bit and even if it was clear, old coolant didnít taste like water.  It is sweet thatís why dickheads would kill animals with it. 

Still havenít jumped onto ftwd but Iím getting kinda tempted.  Iíve  watched some eps lately.  I see Darma is on it now too.  May have to binge it maybe.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 2, 2018, 11:03 AM
I knew that they were not going to go back to Virginia.  I'm also glad that dingbat who's been screwing with them is finally dead....worst villain ever.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 1, 2019, 10:57 PM
Season 5 Triler. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs37Ok6JAJE)

I'm looking forward to see where this goes.  They are supposed to tie into the movie coming in 2020.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: JediJman on April 4, 2019, 11:57 AM
This actually looks promising.  I'm more excited to see this season than any of the previous ones.  I like just about everyone in the current cast.  Sending Morgan over to the spinoff was a brilliant decision.  Nice to see *Spoiler* $%Dwight!% back again too!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 3, 2019, 10:32 AM
Season 5 premier last night...my takeaways:

- Why the hell were our group in an FREAKIN' AIRPLANE?!  There better be an explanation forthcoming on this crap!

- Looks like Al stumbled upon Black Mesa.

- Max Headroom -- super villain.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on June 11, 2019, 01:54 AM
I like that Matt Frewer survived this zombie apocalypse. And he's the new smart antagonist that tricks the idiots heroes into abandoning the compound, which he owns...anyway.  Though, no one is paying property taxes...so...wait, no government.

Next week there's a wild west ghost town where  ever they are stuck, so gang, let's split up and solve this mystery!  Maybe they can find Scrappy... Al. Or is Alicia Scrappy?

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 11, 2019, 04:10 PM
They still haven't answered the question....why for the love of all that is holy did these morons decide to get into a plane and try to fly it?!


It reminds me of TWD season two when Lori got into a car just to go out and flip it to be in danger.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on June 11, 2019, 05:20 PM
They still haven't answered the question....why for the love of all that is holy did these morons decide to get into a plane and try to fly it?!


It reminds me of TWD season two when Lori got into a car just to go out and flip it to be in danger.

Seriously, my first question is what's the plan for landing that thing?  No navigation, no knowledge of airports with good airstrips... it was basically a crash landing waiting to happen.

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on June 11, 2019, 10:14 PM
Morgan's guilt trip about helping people is just that strong, even though they've yet to find anyone after months!

Also, I like how they left a crate of weapons at the crash site.  Now they are gone.  Yet, they wanted to rush to the truck stop and....the plan was...? Few weapons. Supposedly surrounded by walkers.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 12, 2019, 11:50 AM
They wanted to get to the truck stop because Luciana was wounded and there were supplies there.  Of course the only reason she was hurt is because they all got on a plane WITH NOT A SINGLE EXPERIENCED PILOT AMONG THEM!!!!!!

Seriously show runners...WTF?

I will admit, this week seeing Daniel was pretty cool...guess he had some time between calypso tours.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2019, 12:01 PM
Honestly I hate the motivational gimmicks they give various characters... like the lady last season who lived to kill people who make other people weak... dumb.

Same thing with this, we live to help other people with relief caches?  Honestly it's stupidly naive and the apocalypse didn't start a month ago at this point. 
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on June 14, 2019, 04:21 PM
They wanted to get to the truck stop because Luciana was wounded and there were supplies there.  Of course the only reason she was hurt is because they all got on a plane WITH NOT A SINGLE EXPERIENCED PILOT AMONG THEM!!!!!!

Yeah, but again, if this truck stop was surrounded by undead, bringing a wounded Luciana there and hope plow through the walkers? Admittedly there were much options, but...

So you had
1. No experienced pilot.
2. No planned landing area
3. Rushing to what they were told was a besieged truck stop because one of them was gravely wounded.
4. Lucked out that the kids were nearby and had a running vehicle that could carry them all.

Then Lois Lane has to go back to crash site alone at night during a zombie apocalypse.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 14, 2019, 07:46 PM
I will admit I liked the Nuclear reactor/radioactive zombies sidequest.  Although why did they not shut the reactors down?
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 17, 2019, 11:11 AM
Just before they showed it, I turned and said to my wife "I bet the kids are setting up these zombie roadblocks."

So are the kids their own network of crazy or are they working with the Black Mesa guys that took Al?  **** needs to start making some kind of sense soon.

Odd way to bring Dwight back....my guess on the timeline is that we're about 18 months after All Out War on TWD...so we're roughly at the point where Rick gets "killed".  I'm still wondering how this season of FTWD is going to show to hint at the upcoming movies.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on June 18, 2019, 01:20 AM
Morgan and Dwight reunite in a wild west ghost town.

Did anyone expect this?

Those kids suck. They could be living in a wild west ghost town...instead of a van...down by the river...
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 24, 2019, 10:41 AM
Nice circular plot on the Daniel/Strand front....ultimately leaving the group separated, but with a new base full of supplies to lose!

So the kids have been putting up these barriers of walkers to keep Black Mesa at bay?  The only part of that plotline that makes sense is that all their parents were killed at the camp (by walkers I think) and that's why they didn't want to leave.

At least next week we get to the plotline that everyone wants to watch.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on June 27, 2019, 10:03 PM
I don't know what's coming, so no spoilers.

Airplane scene was pretty fun.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 27, 2019, 11:36 PM
Don't worry Rob...the only way someone could spoil this is if they watched the episode early.....no comic to read for this one.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Rob on June 28, 2019, 01:37 PM
Okay awesome.  Especially since with the holiday Iím going to be a week behind.  Iíll stay out of here though.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 1, 2019, 10:22 AM
Interesting episode last night.  Nice to get a little look into Black Mesa.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on July 1, 2019, 09:26 PM
So the woman's partner freaked out over radioactive zombies? What?

Mountain climbing was unexpected, and well...a bit convoluted.  How exactly did both undead climbers die?

Of course she's a lesbian or bi or whatever.

It wasn't bad, but they seem to dragging this so-so story "stuck in the high country" line out. Where is their region where there's a nuclear plant, a western town, and all routes out are blocked?

Best new character is Skidmark the cat.


Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on July 7, 2019, 10:30 PM
Now we are getting fillerish.

Annoying kids are still annoying.

I'd like to point out that Z NATION did their nuke plant meltdown story in one episode.

Alfred Dorrie keeping the letter secret from Bruce Dwight. We back on that "with holding information" stuff again.

Ballooooon fakery.

It's amusing they decided that FTWD isn't worthy of a Talking Dead after each episode anymore.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on July 15, 2019, 01:57 AM
Are they setting up Alicia to die?

Why ain't those get ate yet?

No stopping the meltdown...even those Z Nation clods accomplished that!

Flight of the Phoenix/Lord of the Flies storyline needs to end by mid season.

They could really surprise us next week by having Matt Frewer just kill Mo Collins and what's his name.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 15, 2019, 10:21 AM
Next week's the mid-season finale right?

It looks like they're setting up Alicia to die....I expect a save "at the last moment".
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on July 22, 2019, 01:23 PM
No deaths. Nothing the first half of the season. not even background characters. I'm not watching these shows to see people eaten by zombies, but...

I guess Morgan got the short end of the stick.  :P

Logan is probably playing a game with them.

What they gonna do with all those annoying kids? Radiation ranger woman, take the kids and go to Bum-Hump, Egypt or something.

Who knows what adventures they'll have in this vague part of the American south-west...?

Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on July 29, 2019, 07:40 AM
I'm still trying to figure out where in Texas they are. I mean, I've lived here all my life and travelled all over.

I'm guessing they are on the coast...but the terrain looks like the hill country, a least a couple hundred miles from the coast.  With that, hurricanes are very weak once they reach that far inland.  I know they were in Austin or San Antonio at some point last season, so I used a little deductive reasoning. 

I guess from the nuclear reactor, they could be near Bay City, but again, the terrain isn't Texas coastal plains, but rather hill country.

After checking their location shooting, they are in the hill country, but there are no nuclear plants nearby.  Texas has two of them, one near the Dallas area, and the other outside of Houston.  So I'm probably digging a little too much here, but oh well.

I can't figure this season out.  I usually watch a few weeks after the episode airs and do so on the app as it just hasn't drawn me in.  It's not bad, but nothing to write home about and certainly not must watch TV...not that there is really anything I have to watch besides baseball.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 12, 2019, 03:01 PM
Where did the husband get land mines at?  ???

Why do Max Headroom and crew waste ammo?  ::)

They really should've killed him.  Morgan and Dwight should realize that he'd be problem, of course Morgan is peace, love and rainbows and Daniel wants to turn over a new leaf. This is a problem. You know someone's who had already been trouble is gonna be trouble later. Remember the Mad Black Woman from last season.

Are we FREAKING TIRED OF THE CAMERA stuff already? 

And what country is Preacher in with the crazy house of freaks? Wrong show.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 12, 2019, 05:28 PM
I actually liked the landmine house....the walkers getting blown up was just hilarious!

I figure in about 7 weeks, Alicia is going to kill Matt Frewer's character.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Jedi Idej on August 12, 2019, 11:26 PM
Did they explode all of the landmines? Some poor soul is going to think they found sanctuary only to get shot sky high like Wiley Coyote.

Humans can design video camera batteries that continue to charge for over 5 years but can't develop a cure for zombie-ism?

Their numbers are growing like crazy. I only hope that means major culling leading up to the season finale.  >:D
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 19, 2019, 10:30 AM
After 10 years of TWD and FTWD we finally see a shout out to Dawn of the Dead.....someone was living in a Mall!
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 19, 2019, 01:58 PM
A mall no one looted yet.

We are still at "characters acting like idiots" method of story telling with Grace and Dwight both acting foolish. 

I have to wonder if like 2 gallons of gas could power an entire mall for more than one minute.

Daniel's quest for a Cinnabon will be the highlight of this season.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on August 26, 2019, 01:14 PM
All those expert theories that it was Madison painting the trees were a bit off.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on August 30, 2019, 05:57 PM
Madison will be Logan's boss.

I've already forgotten most the last episode. A police station that ain't been looted? Really?

"That's some good writing, boy. *croaks*"

Thus ends Alicia's pointless not killing people who are already dead storyline.


Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 2, 2019, 11:24 AM
I kind of liked last night's episode.  It was a an interesting twist on Father Gabriel's story with the Rabbi.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 2, 2019, 01:37 PM
It was different. I was hoping it would go some place more interesting than it did. The story required a kid doing stupid ****. That's getting old. And the ladder bit...they are going through hurdles to put characters in these precarious situations they otherwise would never get into. Like it's a tv show or something!  :P

Also, any time Morgan's not on screen, another character should be asking "Where's Morgan?"

Charlie: "Where is Morgan?"
Rabbi: "Who is Morgan?"
Drax: "I'll do you one better, why is Morgan?"
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 9, 2019, 08:25 AM
New antagonists show up by killing off previous ones.  It's Alpha Mare leading the Horse Whisperers (I need to trademark that).

This after we get more backstory for Logan (there's still time...), that's a thing they do sometimes. Actors must fear  the walking dead their character getting too big a role.

The refinery is a hole in the ground...I don't know much about refining...but seems a bit sketchy.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Chris M on September 9, 2019, 09:55 AM
Weird episode.  Just really weird.  This half of the season has kind of been all over the place aimlessly running about.  Maybe the next spinoff will have a coherent storyline.

I'm a Texan.  I have the accent.  But I hate TV shows portraying us as a bunch of horse back riding, six shooter toting, hillbillies.  That's simply not the case.  My god, it's like everything reverted back to the 1800s, clothing, guns, and everything else.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 9, 2019, 10:07 AM
I'm a Texan.  I have the accent.  But I hate TV shows portraying us as a bunch of horse back riding, six shooter toting, hillbillies.  That's simply not the case.  My god, it's like everything reverted back to the 1800s, clothing, guns, and everything else.

Whoa, wait a sec.  You aren't all a bunch of horse back riding, six shooter toting, hillbillies?  I thought that was the only authentic part of the episode?   ;D

So the bad guy has a change of heart, then gets killed by the new bad guy.  The only thing I like was that they were using the walkers as a means of production...like the end of Shaun of the Dead.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 9, 2019, 02:26 PM
Texans aren't all hillbillies, as much of Texas is flat land.

They just need to trade Mr A-Hole for Rosita Luciana.
Title: Re: Fear the Walking Dead
Post by: Scockery on September 16, 2019, 12:06 AM
Daniel doesn't seem like the Travelling Wilburys type.

Uh...some stuff happened...pool time...that was the highlight.  Meh.