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Title: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Matt on April 12, 2017, 03:20 AM
. . .is a thing that is happening. Trailer officially releases this weekend, but it already kind of leaked today. Looks like it will cover all three trilogy eras.

(https://i.imgur.com/M2mVf8V.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Diddly on April 14, 2017, 12:43 AM
Trailer looks good, but given the colossal pile of you-know-what that the first one was, I'll wait to see if they actually added the stuff the fans were asking for.

And, for your entertainment, dank memes!

(http://i.imgur.com/ZNzHo1v.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aPOOPTql.jpg)

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Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Nicklab on April 15, 2017, 11:12 PM
The last gaming platform that I bought was either my PS2 or the first X-Box.  But after seeing this? Battlefront II trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kae-JjbLsgA).  Damn!  I may have to scope out whatever platform my nephews have when I see them tomorrow for Easter and "gift" them a copy...
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Jesse James on April 19, 2017, 01:27 AM
Won't be duped again.  BF sucked hard.  It's a weak ass excuse for a shooter in a sea of shooters.

Visually, it's stunning.  Game play is crap though, and it's as unbalanced a FPS as I've ever played.  Such potential pissed away because they really put zero imagination into the weaponry and some of the other details like that.

That said, if they do a good SP campaign (ala Titanfall 2!  That thing is incredible and was shadowed only because it came out with like 3 other major games at the same time), I'll come back...  but on sale.  I'm recooping some of my lost $ from the last game. 

BF was visually fun though.  Lots of inspiration for customizing in a weird way.  The game is trash though.  The older BF's were far superior.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 19, 2017, 05:14 PM
They lost me at EA.  :-\
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: JediJman on April 19, 2017, 05:50 PM
Haha!  Haters gonna hate.  I'm still playing BF and loving every minute of it.  It's probably weak compared to other similar games, but for infrequent gamers like me it still rules.  I don't need a ton of complexity in a game to make it fun, but hoping this next one is a better fit for everyone.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Jesse James on April 19, 2017, 06:14 PM
I'd say what I didn't like about it would make it far superior for infrequent gamers actually.  I found it actually annoying from that perspective as I really cannot game like I did years ago. :-\
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: JediJman on April 20, 2017, 12:22 PM
I'm not sure what you mean...  ???
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Jesse James on April 20, 2017, 04:21 PM
The games balance is off, comparatively speaking.  Games like Titanfall you can dive into and not be good at them but still be competitive.  BF was all kinds of imbalanced to me.  The kids were home when I got it and they're pretty much experts at CoD and such and they were absolutely destroying people in BF.

They could've alleviated a lot of that with a little more creativity on the weapons and some customizability to them, and to the characters individually so a player could balance their character to their own strengths.  It lacked that a lot.
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Post by: Phrubruh on April 24, 2017, 11:12 AM
I think it would be interesting to hear a story about what happen to the ground imperial troops when the second Death Star was destroyed. I assume they were rounded up by the Alliance. I wonder if they ever found out that the Emporer was going to nuke the shield generator site per the cut scenes.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 10, 2017, 10:56 PM
Wow, this looks good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q51LZ2HpbE&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q51LZ2HpbE&t=1s)
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Post by: Scott on June 11, 2017, 05:04 PM
Holy crap you little fireball you're back from the dead?  I agree it looks awesome
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Post by: Angry Ewok on June 11, 2017, 05:13 PM
Yeah! I've been really busy. Bought a house, got a dog, working two jobs, going to school, and I'm in seminary. But my love for Star Wars has not slackened. Matter of fact, I'm hoping to join the 501st Legion by the end of the year.

Here's some gameplay footage from E3. This reminds me of the original Battlefront 2, which is a good thing. I'm most concerned about seeing if EA is going to do something about the hacking problems we have on the PC. 75% of the matches I have played have had a hacker, or even more than one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46DKZdVxFH4&t=166s
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 12, 2017, 01:38 PM
I like the trailer.  I hope the space battle levels will be good.  I'm taking a wait and see approach to this game.

The EA in the title has me worried.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 12, 2017, 04:27 PM
I don't see myself pre-ordering. I definitely see no incentive for preordering the $80 deluxe edition, if all they're offering is early unlocks.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 19, 2017, 05:49 PM
So EA is having loot crates that you can buy in in-game currency which gives you power ups like less damage, more health, etc or you can just buy them outright.

So it's basically pay-to-win.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Jesse James on September 19, 2017, 10:56 PM
Hey like politics!   ::)

Seriously though, that's some lameness.  As ****** a cash grab as their maps were.  It'll make some MP unbearable I'm sure.  If I get this it's for the campaign and story.  Piss on the MP from them.  Still doesn't impress me.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Diddly on October 5, 2017, 11:45 PM
Got an invite to the Beta and played a match or two. It's a lot different from the first one. Hard to really say anything since I haven't done much. There will be a LOT more customization in the weapons.
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Post by: Jesse James on October 6, 2017, 12:07 AM
Sounds (from what I hear) they're trying to fix the fumbles from BF1...  campaign has my attention, but short of a really good price early like some games get for black Frida and things, I'm gonna wait I think.

Do wanna play that campaign tho.  Cutscenes alone look like a fun story.
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Post by: Diddly on October 6, 2017, 09:43 AM
All that is available in the Beta is a Walker Assault style multiplayer level on Naboo, droids vs clones. Kind of weird hearing the droids with Clone Wars/ROTS voices in Theed. There are different "Classes" of soldiers to choose from, the standard soldier with the blasters from the films, heavy assault troopers, officers, and snipers, and the more points you get allow you to unlock bonus "cards" like special bombers and such.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Dave on November 7, 2017, 03:30 PM
Anybody seen a decent comparison (or can articulate it here) on the differences between the standard and deluxe versions?

From what I can tell you get the following extras with the $20 extra Deluxe edition:

Is that it?
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on November 12, 2017, 08:04 AM
EA has been less than coy that there wilĒ be ďholidayĒ pricing on this before yearís end. Buyer beware.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 12, 2017, 03:00 PM
EA has been less than coy that there wilĒ be ďholidayĒ pricing on this before yearís end. Buyer beware.

Because their market plan is to spihon money from games with micro-transactions.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Diddly on November 14, 2017, 03:29 PM
Speaking of, EA's response to microtransactions is now the most downvoted comment in the history of Reddit (https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/13/ea-response-to-battlefront-ii-complaint-is-the-most-downvoted-comment-in-reddit-history/)

My copy is scheduled to arrive from Amazon tonight!
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Post by: Jeff on November 14, 2017, 04:09 PM
Never got around to pre-ordering this and now I'm glad I didn't. Procrastination wins the day again! :P

Going to wait until they get past all this, figure out the loot crate/paywall/playwall stuff, and fill out the game a bit before I even think about buying in.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Diddly on November 14, 2017, 09:40 PM
WHAT A SHOCKING SHOCK, Amazon failed to deliver my order on time. This has happened to legit every order I've made with them this year. What do I even pay for Prime for?

Looks like I'm NOT playing this today after all.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Qui-Gon Jim on November 15, 2017, 06:48 AM
Make sure to complain.  You should get $10 without much hassle.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Diddly on November 15, 2017, 11:59 PM
Ok, game got here today. I played for about 2 hours tonight, 1 hour of single player campaign and an hour of online multiplayer. Campaign mode is... slow, I guess I would describe it so far? Visually, it's amazing. There weren't even enough players online to play a full 40 person game, so I did a few 16 person games where the pay to win aspect was definitely present, in that people had better weapons, could go undetected on radar, etc.

I need some time to get used to the game system. Call me crazy but I kind of miss the random chaos from the last one. Maybe it will pick up when the game is mass released.
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Post by: Chris M on November 16, 2017, 02:31 PM
This is really distressing to hear. This game has so much potential, but I think EA really dropped the ball with so much pay to play stuff.  It's almost like getting a game on your phone, only to discover if you want to actually play it you have to pay for the upgrades.

I've wondered why EA wouldn't just release the game at say an $80 price point and then it includes the upgrades.  I imagine a lot of casual gamers are going to be turned off by the pay aspect.  I know, I'm only a casual gamer, so I won't spend a dime beyond what it takes to make the initial purchase.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Jesse James on November 16, 2017, 07:48 PM
Yeah but that game on your phone was free!  This thing is still gonna cost ya $60!  Well, till sales anyway.  Iím officially tapping out on this till steep discount.  The SP is all that appeals to me through a friend told me the MP, besides the pay aspect, is tweaked to be a little more like Classes in other similar FPS games.

Still my only serious draw is sp and playing immediately isnít important to me like with some other games. 
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Post by: Nicklab on November 17, 2017, 09:08 AM
I'm not up on what's going on with most console games.  I've taken a passing interest in Battlefront II:  watching some of the gameplay demos, the cross promotional efforts, etc.  But when I read this Forbes piece (https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/11/15/star-wars-battlefront-2s-loot-boxes-feel-like-a-fork-in-the-road-for-video-games/#70cdf35a6e75) that laid out the possibility that gamers might spend over $2 grand in buying all of the loot boxes throughout the game.  And the outrage over all of the in-game purchases led EA to post this on Twitter:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOzCU5wV4AAwFT4.jpg)

And I think having the actor who portrayed Iden Versio in the game, Janina Gavankar, on GMA this morning may have been an exercise in damage control, too.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2017, 05:53 PM
Train wreck.  Iíll wait to get it cheaper to play the SP.
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Post by: Diddly on November 20, 2017, 11:52 PM
Jesse, the single player campaign is like 4 hours long... another disappointment.

I'd seriously recommend everyone take a pass on this game. It sucks.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Jesse James on November 21, 2017, 12:00 AM
Iím gonna wait for either cheap used or $20.  I just saw a review basically saying the campaign wasnít just short but also linear and simplistic with stuff thrown in for pure fan wank like playing as Luke and Han.  While I kinda wanna see the storyline and new characters and such, Iím glad I didnít dive in on this like I did with the last game. 

The formula for success is there.  Itís been done and all you needed to really do was put a Star Wars skin on it to be a success.  Being a little innovative with gameplay wouldíve been amazing then had they done that too, but instead they did none of those things.  EA sucks.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Diddly on November 21, 2017, 09:04 PM
Yeah, visually the game is incredible, and the gameplay is good, it's just frustrating that they ruined the multiplayer with the power up system, the "squad" feature that literally never comes in to play (and just delays re-entering play after you die), and not being able to choose which map and which type of match you want to play.
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Post by: Jesse James on November 22, 2017, 12:34 AM
Itís hard to innovate FPS and itís risky too but like Iíve said about the last one, I felt if anything they had dumbed the gameplay down to where upgrades were so simplistic they made just jumping in and enjoying it difficult.  Classes were lame and not as familiar, which I think familiarity there helps keep the fun and balance for new and seasoned players more ďfairĒ... 

Other FPS games manage to improve the genre though and that is always in the back of my mind.  But I mean seriously just a Star Wars skin on an already familiar and popular game wouldíve been safe and kinda meh but still been more well received.

And the reviews on the SP are bad and honestly I have no idea how you F that part up this bad.  Iíve seen some video of the complaints and I gotta say they do seem like the SP was really an afterthought and nowhere near as good or extensive as like CoD even which is usually pretty simple stuff.  Hell, Titanfall2 is immersive and again you have a blueprint so why not just use that?  Oh well.
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Post by: I Am Sith on December 2, 2017, 09:27 AM
Hey guys, I am in no way a gamer or FPS expert so please bear with me on my question.  My sons want this game for Christmas as they had BF and were less than happy with it.  I'm sure that's mostly because we don't let them play online and confine them to local co-op games with friends.  Call me old fashioned but I don't want to pay $60 for a game and then pay another monthly fee for an EA or PS Play account.  That being said, is there enough content in BF2 to keep them occupied if they were only to have what I've heard referred to as a 'couch co-op'?  They don't play other FPS like CoD, so they don't know what they are missing compared to other games.  They just want to blow up some stuff and shoot some droids.  Thanks for the help in advance.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 2, 2017, 11:34 AM
Thereís a single player campaign thatís about 4 to 5 hours long, with some DLC coming around the time the movie drops.  Thereís also an arcade mode that is a single player version of the multiplayer portions of the game.

Thereís no season pass so you donít have to pay to play it, but thereís a micro-transaction/ loot box system that is tied to progression.  Due to a ton of fan backlash and ngative press, wich resulted in EA losing $3.1 Billion in revenue, the micro-transaction portion has been turned off, but itís coming back as soon as the bad press dies down.
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Post by: Jesse James on December 2, 2017, 06:56 PM
What Matt said...  and 4-5 hr is not long as FPS single player missions go.  Iíve heard enough on it that it detracted me buying it till itís significantly less next year.  CoD has things like zombie levels and things that expand its SP experience.

A lot of gaming anymore is tied to online play for sure...  not something I was keen on myself but eventually I relented.  Iím really cheap on paying for it though and watch Xbox live deals any time I can get them. :-\
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Post by: Chris M on December 29, 2017, 01:57 PM
Well, I got this game for Christmas.  My wife picked up this, Wolfenstein II, and COD WWII.

I chose to jump on this first.  First, I'm not an online gamer and am what I'd consider a casual gamer as I play when I have time.  Being that I'm off work for a couple of weeks, I've spent my time playing games, reading, and cruising the internet...really productive I know.

Anyway, I'm to the part where I play as Kylo Ren.  I'm not sure exactly what to do, but I'll figure it out.  I've enjoyed the game so far.  Game play has been pretty simple, shootouts are fun, hero play has been fun, and the highlights have been the amazing graphics.  This game blows everything else out of the water in that regard.  I doubt I'll get into the online play as I'm not paying to play when I've already dropped cash on the game itself.

I'm not sure what other options are available to play once I finish the story, but I assume it's the arcade mode.  I will say that sucked and I thought it was stupid I had to wait (overnight it turned out) for the game to download to my console.  Why in the world do we spend money on a game and we don't have immediate access to story mode?  I think LA dropped the ball on that.  The arcade level I played was quick and easy and that's about as great as it got.

So, my summary...I've had fun playing the story mode.  I think I'm almost finished and while it was fun, it appears it was short.  It stinks to drop cash, as many have said, and only get a few hours of game play before I have to start paying for stuff.  Arcade mode sucks...sucks.  Online, probably won't happen because I'm not that hardcore.  As for gameplay goes, it's been fun and easy to work through.  I just wish there was more to it.  Hopefully if there is a BF3 then LA will expand the game and story mode.  They improved a lot on the last one, but as many have indicated, this one appears to be lacking in some regards.
Title: Re: Star Wars Battlefront II (not to be confused with Star Wars: Battlefront II)
Post by: Dave on December 29, 2017, 02:42 PM
I will say that sucked and I thought it was stupid I had to wait (overnight it turned out) for the game to download to my console.  Why in the world do we spend money on a game and we don't have immediate access to story mode?  I think LA dropped the ball on that. 

I had the same experience with my kids on Christmas day.  They were jazzed to get the game, but it probably took two hours to download the necessary updates to even run it beyond the arcade mode.  Can't somebody create a game that you can just play out of the box, and have the updates load in the background and get installed later?

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