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Title: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 15, 2017, 09:59 PM
The Vintage Collection is coming back in Spring 2018 and Hasbro is looking to the fans to help select a character to join it!  The first round of voting kicks off today and runs through Wednesday, April 19th.

To Vote at JediDefender:
Send an email to jsmentek@jedidefender.com with 2017 Hasbro Fan Figure Vote in the subject line and your character selection and your full name (first and last) in the body of the email.  Limit ONE (1) character vote per email address.  Fraudulent votes will be discarded.  Voting will close on 11:38pm ET on Wednesday, April 19th.

Any characters from the Star Wars Rebels or Star Wars: The Clone Wars animated series will be sculpted in the realistic style (like the current Black Series lines).

The results of the first round will be tabulated and sent to Hasbro on Friday, April 21st.  The top 6 picks from each site will be used to create the entrants of a final poll at StarWars.com, which will take place April 26th through April 30th. The winner will be announced at a later date.

Please visit Star Wars.com (http://www.starwars.com/news/the-3-75-inch-star-wars-vintage-collection-is-back-and-you-can-vote-for-its-next-figure) for the full list of fan sites participating in Round One.


Finally, feel free to use this thread to lobby for your choice – you’ve got a few days to vote, so think it over and debate amongst your friends here at JD.  This is a great chance for us to get a long time JediDefender Wishlist figure (like Cliegg Lars, Sim Aloo, Tonnkia Sisters, etc) and it would be shame to waste it on some one-off video game character or yet ANOTHER Mara Jade figure when there are so many deserving obscure OT characters to chose!  ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darby on April 15, 2017, 10:03 PM
Thanks Jeff!

Dorme - there can be no other!  :) After 15 years, we can make it happen folks.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/8/8b/Dorme.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070517010621)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 15, 2017, 10:22 PM
I'm really, really torn on who to pick.

I've whittled my starter list down to five and am going to think it over ths weekend.  I am open to suggestions if JediDefender wants to rally around a particular character to try to push it through to the next round... ;)

My list:
- Tzizvvt
- Tonnika Sister (#wastedvote)
- Sim Aloo
- Fozec
- Cleigg Lars w/Chair (AOTC)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 15, 2017, 10:24 PM
I had to go with Office duel Palpatine!  This is Palpatine at his most pivotal moment:  quickly dispatching 3 Jedi masters, fighting another to a standstill, and pushing Anakin Skywalker over the edge to renounce the Jedi and become a Sith.

(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/1/10/Coruscant_Duel.png/revision/latest?cb=20130210184541)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Ben on April 15, 2017, 10:37 PM
I'm torn between Dorme and Cliegg Lars. Odd that my choices would be from my least favorite Star Wars flick...  :-\
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 15, 2017, 10:49 PM
Tiz is a good one.  I'm liking Jabba Palace Snaggletooth tho too.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 16, 2017, 09:43 AM
I like all the submissions so far.  I'd include Padme Naboo Picnic in it, but I don't think she is a strong choice for a win.  I'd also add Baze, Chirrut and Bodhi but those would be a given (I hope).

Not sure who I'd go with.

PS.  Scott, we miss your Top Ten lists (though I realize for the past few years there was no point) but with this announcement, there's hope!  And Top Ten lists are built on hope!
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 16, 2017, 10:23 AM
I like all the submissions so far.  I'd include Padme Naboo Picnic in it, but I don't think she is a strong choice for a win.  I'd also add Baze, Chirrut and Bodhi but those would be a given (I hope).

Not sure who I'd go with.

PS.  Scott, we miss your Top Ten lists (though I realize for the past few years there was no point) but with this announcement, there's hope!  And Top Ten lists are built on hope!

+1

I'd like to see some more Padme's too, but I would opt for Senator versions:  Palpatine's office in AOTC, the homecoming entourage (with bun hairdo) in ROTS, or the ROTS scene where Palpatine makes the declaration of the Empire.

The core characters from ROGUE ONE do seem like no-brainers.  I hope Hasbro thinks so, too.

I've missed the wishlist polls, too.  But it did seem like an exercise in banging your head against the wall while Hasbro was so fixated on 5 POA and little else in the 3.75" figure line.  But as the saying goes, Rebellions are built on hope!  And that seems to have prevailed here.

Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Scockery on April 16, 2017, 11:26 AM
Solomahal, the "colonel", much more visible than the fly guy....not that I don't want Tzizvvt
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Rob on April 16, 2017, 11:29 AM
I don't want to throw away the vote, but Tonnika Sisters would be awesome.  Maybe with Disney owning the thing now there could be some movement on that?  I know we've heard the weird denials over the years, and I know it's just an action figure, but I still don't understand how there is any possible legal hang up and I haven't heard a decent explanation for it.  Christine Hewett has passed away, Angela Staines hasn't acted since Star Wars - her entire acting resume is two uncredited rolls, one being Star Wars and the other being "native dancer" in Queen Kong in 1976.  I don't think I've ever heard of an instance of an actor owning the likeness to a character, especially a two-shot background piece of nothing like this.  So while I don't mean to be all conspiratorial, this one never ever added up for me and every year or two I still feel like bringing it up and calling B.S. in hopes that some better explanation has surfaced.

With that out of the way... There isn't really a PT character I feel I need to have, to me this is all about letting Hasbro know there's still collector interest in the OT.  I also don't see these fan polls as the place to ask for some iconic main character that there's a better chance Hasbro will get around to making anyway.

So, while I'd be perfectly happy with any unmade OT figure like Tzizvvt, what I really want is a 3-pack of the remaining dignitaries, my top is going to be Sim Aloo.

(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/4/48/Sim_aloo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20050819144936)

Looking through my vintage figures, is he the absolute last vintage figure that hasn't been made at this point?

This needs to happen.



Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 16, 2017, 12:42 PM
I have to think about this. I want Sim Aloo as well, just to help fill out the original 93. My top want is the Incredible Cross Sections Hoth Speeder biker, but I feel that'd be throwing my vote away as well. General Merrick is definitely near the top of my list.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darby on April 16, 2017, 04:44 PM
Another great OT choice would be Baniss Keeg, who has been strangely overlooked ever since his bro got picked way back in the day.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/banthapedia/images/b/ba/Baniss-keeg.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090908204309)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Scott on April 16, 2017, 08:49 PM
I'm behind Sim Aloo there are quite a few debatable 93s left but this one is a no brainer

I actually like Jeffs list a lot as those are high on the JD Top 10s

I'm just cushioning the blow when some Female EU Video game character wins the poll and the first 4 waves are TFA repacks, Rebels, Rogue One and TLJ first wave.  The chance of getting 6 new OT figures is slim to none
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 17, 2017, 08:39 AM
I'm a little tempted to change my vote.  Because there's one character from ROGUE ONE that is far from a main player, but I would really like to see him get some props since his actions helped turn the tide in the space battle at Scarif:

Captain Kado Oquoné - Captain of the Alliance hammerhead korvette Lightbringer

Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Diddly on April 17, 2017, 09:45 AM
Cliegg Lars is a good choice, as are the Rogue One characters and Hux, but I decided to go with 99 from The Clone Wars (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/99). Might as well vote outside the box before Captain Rex makes it into the final poll.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 18, 2017, 01:22 AM
I went for it. I officially voted for Sim Aloo. If you others follow suit, that's three of us!
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 19, 2017, 01:21 AM
I'm going with Sim Aloo just to get behind something others want...  Though I like Nick's choice on the Hammerhead captain cuz that guy was all kinds of balls out badass, totally owed a figure.  Hell he gave up his life for the Alliance.  Gotta love that, and we need a new Rebel.  We always need new Rebels. :)

But Sim Aloo it is.  Plus I want people to finally shut up about that craggy old bastard.  I really am not a big Dignitary fan, can't say I care about them is all, but this is something people seem to give a hoot about being a vinty figure and I want something to get some kind of a push that people want that isn't from the EU or something.  And I even like the EU!  Go figure.

Sim Aloo Ahoy.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 19, 2017, 10:15 AM
After much preponderance, I've gotta vote with my heart.  And one of my two favorite things in this hobby is buying new Cantina Monster figures (buying Han Solo figures is the other).

Gotta vote for Tzizvvt.  This might be the only way to get him.  I'd love a Tonnika, but Tziz gets my vote because 'monster alien' always trumps 'boring human' alien.  :P
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Rob on April 19, 2017, 12:19 PM
I sent in my Sim Aloo vote just now... as awesome as Tzizvvt would be, and as much as I'd love that, I just have too big a soft spot for the vintage line and always thought Sim Aloo was super creepy and awesome when I was little.

Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 19, 2017, 12:24 PM
Just heard that the EU figure of choice is Ben Skywalker and claims of ballot stuffing!
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 19, 2017, 12:27 PM
It wouldn't be a Fan's Choice Poll without accusations of someone trying to fix the vote results.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 19, 2017, 12:39 PM
It wouldn't be a Fan's Choice Poll without accusations of someone trying to fix the vote results.

This would be an excellent thread for other sites' version of a Sarlacc Pit.   ;D

Could there be other ways to do the Fan Choice Poll?  Yes. Maybe say one from each property (movies/EU/cartoons, etc) or do a rotation?  But that'd add to Hasbro's headache. 
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 19, 2017, 01:55 PM
Less than ten hours left to vote... get those votes in if you haven't already.

Sim Aloo, Tzizvvt, and Yakface are all running pretty close!

To Vote at JediDefender:
Send an email to jsmentek@jedidefender.com with 2017 Hasbro Fan Figure Vote in the subject line and your character selection and your full name (first and last) in the body of the email.  Limit ONE (1) character vote per email address.  Fraudulent votes will be discarded.  Voting will close on 11:38pm ET on Wednesday, April 19th.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Scott on April 19, 2017, 02:14 PM
I've been traveling and searching through JD on a phone is a little rough...can some dig out the last two-three 4" Fan choice lists and see how they finished up.  Seems like we never got the last one published and the middle one hardly any of those figures ever got made
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 19, 2017, 02:27 PM
I haven't updated it since 2015, but this was the last few open Fan Choice polls...

2006 winner = Quinlon Vos Darth Revan
2009 winner = Bastilla Shan
2011 winner = Mara Jade

If Hasbro was smart, they'd take that "who's left" list and start making $$$.  Piett update, Yakface update, Tzizvvt, Sim Aloo, Taym Dren-Garen, Dorme, Cliegg - so many great choices on there...


Since the 2015 Black Series line is set, I thought I'd take one last "Pre-TFA" look at the unmade fan poll figures...

- 2006 Toy Fare Fan Choice Poll (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=11589.msg250203#msg250203) = 23 out of 25 made into figures; 92%

- 2009 Toy Fare Fan Choice Poll (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=19639.msg459981#msg459981) = 12 out of 30 made into figures; 40%

- 2011 Hasbro Fan Choice Poll (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=21821.msg523361#msg523361) = 7 out of 20 made into figures; 35%

Who’s left?  Glad you asked.  I’ve compiled the list of left-overs into one easy to reference/discuss list.  The # in parens is the polls they appeared.

Anakin Solo (2006)
Cane Adiss (2009)
Captain/Admiral Pellaeon (2009, 2011)
Captain/Admiral Piett (2011)
Cliegg Lars (2009, 2011)
Corde (2009)
Darth Caedus (2009)
Dash Rendar (2009)
Vintage-deco Death Squad Commander (2011)
Dorme (2009)
RotJ Emperor Palpatine w/throne) (2011)
Guri (2009, 2011)
Jaxxon (2009, 2011)
Joruus C’Baoth (2009, 2011)
Kittster and Wald (2009)
Mosep Bineed (2011)
RotS Nute Gunray (2011)
RotS Funeral Padme Amidala (2006)
Queen Apailana (2009)
Queen Jamilla (2009)
Sergeant Doallyn (2009, 2011)
Sim Aloo (2009, 2011)
Taym Dren-Garen (2009)
Tey How (2009)
Toryn Farr (2009, 2011)
Tzivvzt (2009, 2011)
Yak Face (2011)

Depending on how you feel about Doallyn vs the Brock Starsher we got, I guess you could give Hasbro a 0.5 credit on that one...
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Rob on April 19, 2017, 03:14 PM
Just heard that the EU figure of choice is Ben Skywalker and claims of ballot stuffing!

I'd believe it.  There's no way there's some sort of fan outcry for a Ben Skywalker action figure.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 19, 2017, 03:33 PM
Just heard that the EU figure of choice is Ben Skywalker and claims of ballot stuffing!

I'd believe it.  There's no way there's some sort of fan outcry for a Ben Skywalker action figure.

I'm a big EU guy. I like Ben, but he'd be way down on my list............
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 19, 2017, 03:54 PM
There's no way there's some sort of fan outcry for a Ben Skywalker action figure.

There isn't... but there is fan outcry (still) about Disney moving the old EU to LEGENDS status.

The goal of this group isn't to get a Ben Skywalker figure, it's to 'stick it to Disney' by picking a figure that Disney can't "appropriate for their reboot canon" (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9zF7-mVoAATHM5.jpg) (like they did with Thrawn and Rebels).  That's why they picked Jaina Solo for the Black Series 6" line last year.

It really sucks that they are basically co-opting this figure poll to try to send Disney a message because a) the message is going to fall on deaf ears and b) its ruining our chances to get Tzizvvt, Sim Aloo, or another OT figure that is long overdue.  :(
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: McMetal on April 19, 2017, 04:11 PM
Who ARE these people and why can't we get the good guys to counter-hack them?

I want to see 1000000 last minute votes for a Gonk droid or something.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Dave on April 19, 2017, 04:17 PM
I hope all these knobs speak with their wallets and buy all the soon to be peg warming Jaina Solo figures when they're released.   ::)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 19, 2017, 04:29 PM
Do you think Ben Skywalker might be DQed just for the fact the the "casual" fan might confuse him with Ben Solo?
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: JediJman on April 19, 2017, 05:28 PM
TONNIKA SISTERS!

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff43/jman5544/Misc/Tonnika_zpsithbahfp.jpg)

I'd actually love to get some of the vintage cantina aliens like a Hammerhead or Blue Snaggletooth.  Sim is a good pick, but I'm sending in my vote for Tzizvvt, so we can get them both on the list.  I like him in a Cantina display more than just upgrading my other dignitaries. 
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: JediJman on April 19, 2017, 05:30 PM
I hope all these knobs speak with their wallets and buy all the soon to be peg warming Jaina Solo figures when they're released.   ::)

I will be buying up multiples of Jaina.  My son and I are reading the young jedi knights stories right now and he loves them, even knowing that they aren't part of the "real" storyline anymore. 

I'm not really in the "stick it to Disney" crowd as I like most of what they're doing and we wouldn't have awesome things like Rogue One or TFA without their involvement. That said, I think Disney equally stuck it to the EU crowd by merging Ben Skywalker and Jacen Solo into one person and basically converting the Imperial Remnant into the First Order.   If it's going to be pretty much the same thing, why not just call it what it was originally called to appease some of the EU fans?  When people change the source material for good reason, I've got no issues with that, but when they change it around just to "make it their own" it gets pretty irritating no matter how you spin it.  I'm looking at you Black Johnny Storm.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 19, 2017, 06:07 PM
Who ARE these people and why can't we get the good guys to counter-hack them?

I want to see 1000000 last minute votes for a Gonk droid or something.

Sadly I think our hobby is full with more of them than normal people.

It's eaier to always be pissed off at Disney, Hasbro, and Star Wars in general than it is to just find something to be happy about.  The glass of blue milk is always half empty, never half full, when it comes to a Star Wars fan.

I like old EU, but want some OT obscurity more.  It's a shame but the hobby is full of unhappy people who don't want to find something to be happy about now.  People who just enjoy the ride are the minority.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 19, 2017, 11:57 PM
Voting is now closed here at JediDefender.

The votes are being analyzed. Fraudulent and/or non-compliant votes will be discarded.

The leading candidate at JediDefender will be posted sometime tomorrow! :)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 20, 2017, 02:57 PM
Here are the results that I've seen published thus far:

Collector's Cantina (http://www.thecollectorscantina.com/article/and-winner-0)
1. Ben Skywalker (legends)
2. Lumpy
3. Ahsoka (Rebels)
4. Yakface
5. Pong Krell
6. Jawa (Plastic Cape)
6. Tonnika Sister


FROM 4-LOM TO ZUCKUSS (http://4lomkuss.com/and-the-1st-round-winners-are/)
-Ben Skywalker
-Dr. Aphra
-Pong Krell
-Sim Aloo
-Tonnika Sisters
-Yakface


JEDI BUSINESS (http://www.jedibusiness.com/NewsDetails?id=519)
Ben Skywalker
Luke Skywalker (from The Force Awakens)
Dr. Aphra
Tonnika Sisters
Dash Rendar
Pong Krell


JEDI INSIDER (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=18456)
Chirut Imwe
Baze Malbus
Ben Skywalker
K-2SO
Hera Syndulla
Meeta Surik


JTA (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=20155)
Yakface
Jedi Temple Guard
Sim Aloo
Tonnika Sisters
Emporer Palpatine
Admiral Piett


REBELSCUM (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_Vintage_Collection_Fans_Choice_Poll_Results_173428.asp)
1) Yak Face from Return of the Jedi
2) Ben Skywalker from the Expanded Universe
3) Sim Aloo from Return of the Jedi
4) Doctor Aphra from Marvel Comics
5) Tonnika Sisters from A New Hope
6) Pong Krell from the Clone Wars Series


STAR WARS ACTION NEWS (https://www.facebook.com/SWActionNews/)
1) TFA Luke Skywalker (with more than 50% more votes than our #2...far and away the most requested)
2) Darth Revan (People must be excited by the current 6-in one)
3) Ahsoka Tano (Rebels Outfit)
4) Grand Admiral Thrawn (With the 6-in figure and the new book, he's having a surge in popularity)
5) General Leia (Ep 7, in fatigues, not in blue dress)
6) Tonika Sisters (A New Hope) (Guess lots of listeners agree with me they are needed!)


STAR WARS COLLECTOR (http://starwarscollector.com/index.php/8-front-page-news/1473-voting-results-for-vintage-collection-3-75-fans-choice)
1) Yakface (ROTJ)
2) Ben Skywalker (Expanded Universe)
3) Tonnika Sisters (ANH)
4) Emperor Palpatine (ROTJ)
5) ARC Trooper Fives (The Clone Wars Series)
6) Pong Krell (The Clone Wars Series)


STAR WARS DAILY (https://www.instagram.com/p/BTGI-d1ga0j/?taken-by=starwarsdaily)
-Starkiller (Galen Marek)
-Darth Revan
-Jedi Temple Guard
-Padme Amidala (AOTC Naboo retreat)
-Captain Rex
-Luke Skywalker (The Force Awakens)


STAR WARS FIGUREN (http://www.forum.starwars-figuren.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1484&whichpage=3)
1. Jaina Solo (Pilot)
2. Yakface
3. Amanaman
4. Pre-Vizla
5. General Merrick
6. Death Squad Commander Gray Uniform


STAR WARS NEWS NET (https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/04/hasbro-fan-choice-vote-swnn-finalists-revealed.html)
-Ben Skywalker
-Doctor Aphra
-Pong Krell
-Bendu
-ARC Trooper Fives
-Assaj Ventress
-Satele Shan (The Old Republic)


STAR WARS THE BLACK SERIES (https://www.instagram.com/p/BTG1iJ4Fp0_/?taken-by=starwarstheblackseries)
-Cad Bane
-Luke Skywalker (The Force Awakens)
-Two Tubes
-ARC Trooper Fives
-Jedi Temple Guard
-Galen Marek
-Captain Rex


YODA'S NEWS (http://www.yodasnews.com/star-wars-fans-choice-poll-results-our-top-six/)
Ben Skywalker
Tonnika Sisters
Yakface
Lobot
Agent Kallus
Chirrut Imwe
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Scockery on April 20, 2017, 04:16 PM
Do you think Ben Skywalker might be DQed just for the fact the the "casual" fan might confuse him with Ben Solo?

I keep thinking. They made him...Kylo Ren! Oh, right...old EU.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: JediJman on April 20, 2017, 04:23 PM
Whole lot of Tonnika Sisters in those lists...
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on April 20, 2017, 05:25 PM
Why would anyone waste o vote on TFA Luke? He's pretty much guaranteed to be coming.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 20, 2017, 06:08 PM
Are the votes for Aphra legit? I just picked up a 6" version
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 20, 2017, 07:47 PM
Kind of surprised to see just how many people voted for Pong Krell.  How he didn't make it into the CLONE WARS animated figure line is still a mystery to me.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: SnTrooper on April 20, 2017, 08:33 PM
Kind of surprised to see just how many people voted for Pong Krell.  How he didn't make it into the CLONE WARS animated figure line is still a mystery to me.
If I remember right, Hasbro said in one of the Q&As that he was going to be released (probably as an exclusive). But then the line (and show) got cancel.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Matt on April 20, 2017, 09:26 PM
Here are the results that I've seen published thus far:

My main takeaway from this?

There are way too many Star Wars nerd sites out there.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 20, 2017, 09:51 PM
The last for JTA is Admiral Piett.

Too many geek sites?  That list doesn't have Yakface or Jedi Defender yet.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 20, 2017, 11:16 PM
Here are your JediDefender Top Five:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/simaloo.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/yakface.jpg)(https://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/tonnikas.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/cantina/tzivvzt.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/jaxxon.jpg)

1. Sim Aloo
2. Yak Face
3. Tonnika Sister(s)
4. Tzizvvt
5. Jaxxon
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 20, 2017, 11:39 PM
Looking over Nick's post, once again it's so easy to determine how old a site's readership/members are by their fan choices.

JediDefender = 2x ROTJ; 2x ANH; 1x Marvel Comics

BREAKING NEWS - we are all old here now. :P
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: CorranHorn on April 21, 2017, 12:08 AM
Looking over Nick's post, once again it's so easy to determine how old a site's readership/members are by their fan choices.

JediDefender = 2x ROTJ; 2x ANH; 1x Marvel Comics

BREAKING NEWS - we are all old here now. :P

Ahh yes, but tis a quality list of choices.

Aloo is right for yoo!!
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 21, 2017, 06:20 AM
Here are the results that I've seen published thus far:

Collector's Cantina (http://www.thecollectorscantina.com/article/and-winner-0)
1. Ben Skywalker (legends)
2. Lumpy
3. Ahsoka (Rebels)
4. Yakface
5. Pong Krell
6. Jawa (Plastic Cape)
6. Tonnika Sister


FROM 4-LOM TO ZUCKUSS (http://4lomkuss.com/and-the-1st-round-winners-are/)
-Ben Skywalker
-Dr. Aphra
-Pong Krell
-Sim Aloo
-Tonnika Sisters
-Yakface


JEDI BUSINESS (http://www.jedibusiness.com/NewsDetails?id=519)
Ben Skywalker
Luke Skywalker (from The Force Awakens)
Dr. Aphra
Tonnika Sisters
Dash Rendar
Pong Krell


JEDI INSIDER (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=18456)
Chirut Imwe
Baze Malbus
Ben Skywalker
K-2SO
Hera Syndulla
Meeta Surik


JTA (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=20155)
Yakface
Jedi Temple Guard
Sim Aloo
Tonnika Sisters
Emporer Palpatine
Admiral Piett


REBELSCUM (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_Vintage_Collection_Fans_Choice_Poll_Results_173428.asp)
1) Yak Face from Return of the Jedi
2) Ben Skywalker from the Expanded Universe
3) Sim Aloo from Return of the Jedi
4) Doctor Aphra from Marvel Comics
5) Tonnika Sisters from A New Hope
6) Pong Krell from the Clone Wars Series


STAR WARS ACTION NEWS (https://www.facebook.com/SWActionNews/)
1) TFA Luke Skywalker (with more than 50% more votes than our #2...far and away the most requested)
2) Darth Revan (People must be excited by the current 6-in one)
3) Ahsoka Tano (Rebels Outfit)
4) Grand Admiral Thrawn (With the 6-in figure and the new book, he's having a surge in popularity)
5) General Leia (Ep 7, in fatigues, not in blue dress)
6) Tonika Sisters (A New Hope) (Guess lots of listeners agree with me they are needed!)


STAR WARS COLLECTOR (http://starwarscollector.com/index.php/8-front-page-news/1473-voting-results-for-vintage-collection-3-75-fans-choice)
1) Yakface (ROTJ)
2) Ben Skywalker (Expanded Universe)
3) Tonnika Sisters (ANH)
4) Emperor Palpatine (ROTJ)
5) ARC Trooper Fives (The Clone Wars Series)
6) Pong Krell (The Clone Wars Series)


STAR WARS DAILY (https://www.instagram.com/p/BTGI-d1ga0j/?taken-by=starwarsdaily)
-Starkiller (Galen Marek)
-Darth Revan
-Jedi Temple Guard
-Padme Amidala (AOTC Naboo retreat)
-Captain Rex
-Luke Skywalker (The Force Awakens)


STAR WARS FIGUREN (http://www.forum.starwars-figuren.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1484&whichpage=3)
1. Jaina Solo (Pilot)
2. Yakface
3. Amanaman
4. Pre-Vizla
5. General Merrick
6. Death Squad Commander Gray Uniform


STAR WARS NEWS NET (https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/04/hasbro-fan-choice-vote-swnn-finalists-revealed.html)
-Ben Skywalker
-Doctor Aphra
-Pong Krell
-Bendu
-ARC Trooper Fives
-Assaj Ventress
-Satele Shan (The Old Republic)


STAR WARS THE BLACK SERIES (https://www.instagram.com/p/BTG1iJ4Fp0_/?taken-by=starwarstheblackseries)
-Cad Bane
-Luke Skywalker (The Force Awakens)
-Two Tubes
-ARC Trooper Fives
-Jedi Temple Guard
-Galen Marek
-Captain Rex


YODA'S NEWS (http://www.yodasnews.com/star-wars-fans-choice-poll-results-our-top-six/)
Ben Skywalker
Tonnika Sisters
Yakface
Lobot
Agent Kallus
Chirrut Imwe


More results:


FLYGUY (http://www.flyguy.net/post/159802634197/the-eu-riggers-in-our-fan-poll-again-did-not)
"The EU riggers in our fan poll again did not choose wisely & voted for a figure that was clearly coming since Jaina was made : ("
-Ben Skywalker
-Ryo Chuchi
-Tonnika Sister
-ARC Trooper Fives
-Commander Bacara
-Pre Viszla



IMPERIAL SHIPYARDS (http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=10255.30)
-Tonnika Sisters
-Sim Aloo
-Rogue One Rebel SpecForce Commando
-Pong Krell
-Satele Shan
-Dash Rendar
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 21, 2017, 07:19 AM
Here are your JediDefender Top Five:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/simaloo.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/yakface.jpg)(https://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/tonnikas.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/cantina/tzivvzt.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/lobotsdup/jaxxon.jpg)

1. Sim Aloo
2. Yak Face
3. Tonnika Sister(s)
4. Tzizvvt
5. Jaxxon


Not a bad list.  I still don't get the fascination with Jaxxon, but whatever.

I think that the establishment collecting community is likely to get behind two OT candidates: Sim Aloo and Yakface, provided the two of them make the finals at the Official Site. I think Pong Krell stands a decent chance, and I've been surprised to see ARC Trooper Fives in the mix, too. But if those characters wind up splitting the votes, then there's the possibility that the spamming campaign may succeed.

The Ben Skywalker situation seems very much like some very ardent NJO fans have gamed the polls and spammed the sites taking part in the process. Whether or not Hasbro or StarWars.com does anything about it is up to them.


As for the Tonnika's? I know people want them made into figures. For the longest time the issue of likeness rights was raised by Hasbro regarding the two actresses who played the Tonnikas. About 10 years ago or more, at least one site actually investigated that angle of the story by interviewing one of the Tonnika sisters actresses, Christine Hewitt when she made a convention appearance.  Hewitt said that she would have been on board regarding the release of likeness rights to produce a figure, and that was not an actual issue.  Hewitt has since passed away.  But after that piece was published Hasbro's story changed, and they said that the Tonnika's just were not something they could do, and were not able to explain why.  A little more digging revealed some comments by Derryl DePriest to Rebelscum (circa 2009 or so) that the Tonnikas are on a list of characters that CANNOT be made, and the reasons why CANNOT be disclosed.

I think the answer is actually very clear.  And the problem with the Tonnika's remains the salacious nature of the characters backstory, and their associated nickname amongst the production as "star whores".  There was a piece published on the Official Site about the cantina characters that hinted at that nickname, too.  I've seen people argue how the character stories got retconned into something else, where they were spies or some sort of thieves. Outside of Star Wars fandom nobody is going to care about that.

You think that Lucasfilm Licensing wasn't going to approve Tonnika Sisters action figures during George Lucas's ownership of the franchise? Well, Disney is DEFINITELY not going there. Will they ever publicly acknowledge that? No. Because they do not even want to have that discussion in the open.  And if word got out to the general public that there were going to be action figures of characters that had been described as "star whores", there would be a giant s***storm of bad PR for Hasbro and potentially the entire Star Wars franchise. Whether or not fans can see beyond their own desire for a figure, and how there is significant potential that the backstory of these figures/characters could damage the Star Wars brand is up to them.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Diddly on April 21, 2017, 09:57 AM
I feel like the Star Wars Action News/Rebel Force Radio list is a good way to measure the "casual" votes, since that podcast is listened to by a lot of people who wouldn't necessarily post on collector sites. Hence every vote going towards figures we've already gotten, or are locks to get.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: SnTrooper on April 21, 2017, 10:00 AM
Here are your JediDefender Top Five:
But Hasbro said to send in top 6?
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Dave on April 21, 2017, 10:47 AM
I think the answer is actually very clear.  And the problem with the Tonnika's remains the salacious nature of the characters backstory, and their associated nickname amongst the production as "star whores".  There was a piece published on the Official Site about the cantina characters that hinted at that nickname, too.  I've seen people argue how the character stories got retconned into something else, where they were spies or some sort of thieves. Outside of Star Wars fandom nobody is going to care about that.

If this is true, then I think its complete crap. 

Cassian is an assassin.  Vader chokes innocent people to death.  Tarkin and The Death Star destroys whole cities and planets.  Leia can be Jabba's slave in a metal bikini and Jabba can have Yarna and other go-go dancers made in to figures.  Yet we can't have a figure of two women smoking cigarettes in a bar that have some obscure, off-camera nickname that 99.9% of the people will never know.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Rob on April 21, 2017, 10:50 AM
I think the answer is actually very clear.  And the problem with the Tonnika's remains the salacious nature of the characters backstory, and their associated nickname amongst the production as "star whores".  There was a piece published on the Official Site about the cantina characters that hinted at that nickname, too.  I've seen people argue how the character stories got retconned into something else, where they were spies or some sort of thieves. Outside of Star Wars fandom nobody is going to care about that.

Even if that's true, it's absurd.  They're fully dressed women and their backstory is whatever Disney says it is.  If the idea that a character had a nickname 40 years ago is enough to prevent a toy from being made, then scrap the whole line. 

They've made toys of women forced to wear skimpy clothes and be 'slaves' - they've made toys of characters who torture and murder... we even got an action figure of a straight up DRUG DEALER.

The only explanation that doesn't strike me as completely insane is that Hasbro is playing some sort of long-game prank here, if it was that the characters were thought to have a 'salacious backstory' then they could just say that and move on.  All the secrecy sounds like a giant inside joke.

EDIT:  What Dave said.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 21, 2017, 10:58 AM
Don't forget that we have a figure of a drug dealer from Attack of the Clones, with the drugs as a pack-in no less!
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jayson on April 21, 2017, 11:15 AM
Don't forget that we have a figure of a drug dealer from Attack of the Clones, with the drugs as a pack-in no less!

Elan Sleazebaggano.  ::)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 21, 2017, 11:18 AM
I think the answer is actually very clear.  And the problem with the Tonnika's remains the salacious nature of the characters backstory, and their associated nickname amongst the production as "star whores".  There was a piece published on the Official Site about the cantina characters that hinted at that nickname, too.  I've seen people argue how the character stories got retconned into something else, where they were spies or some sort of thieves. Outside of Star Wars fandom nobody is going to care about that.

If this is true, then I think its complete crap. 

Cassian is an assassin.  Vader chokes innocent people to death.  Tarkin and The Death Star destroys whole cities and planets.  Leia can be Jabba's slave in a metal bikini and Jabba can have Yarna and other go-go dancers made in to figures.  Yet we can't have a figure of two women smoking cigarettes in a bar that have some obscure, off-camera nickname that 99.9% of the people will never know.

Hey, I get the absurdity.  Look at the way most of the Twi'lek females are portrayed with the exception of Aayla Secura and Hera. 

But this seems like the whole production crew nickname and the associated backstory  is something that may have been a concern with someone at Lucasfilm.  Because the likeness rights issue was just a distraction.  That much has been established.

And now Lucasfilm is trying to be much more inclusive with female fans, and is putting forth numerous positive female characters:  Ahsoka, Rey, Sabine, Hera, Jyn Erso, etc.  I don't see them taking a step backwards on that issue by offering the Tonnika Sisters, along with the potential baggage they'll bring to the table.

As a result, I don't think the Tonnikas are even going to make it to the finals.  And I think someone at Lucasfilm will see to that.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 21, 2017, 11:22 AM
I agree with you guys.  It just seems like such an arbitrary place to draw the line on something like the Tonnikas.  Especially considering the fact that Galoob was somehow able to get away with producing a Tonnika figure in one of their action fleet accessory packs. 

Drug dealers, assassins, and sex slave action figures are fine, but bar whores are not?  The Darth Talon, Slave Leia, and Oola figures are practically naked but at least they don't smoke!


Here are your JediDefender Top Five:
But Hasbro said to send in top 6?

There was a four-way tie for sixth place. Rather than arbitrarily elevate one over the others, I opted to just go with a top 5. 

The four characters are well represented on the other fan site lists.  If you were to compile the results that Nick has posted, you'd probably be able to put together an educated guess on who the four were.  Seems like maybe it wasn't just Ben Skywalker who got an orchestrated effort to get some votes to different sites.   ;)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 21, 2017, 11:32 AM
And not enough time for a sudden death round either.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: jedipurge on April 21, 2017, 12:22 PM
what a crappy list
I'm an old timer and I'd buy each of them, but only one.
even if one of them made it'd be such a pegwarmer its not even funny
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 21, 2017, 12:27 PM
I agree with you guys.  It just seems like such an arbitrary place to draw the line on something like the Tonnikas.  Especially considering the fact that Galoob was somehow able to get away with producing a Tonnika figure in one of their action fleet accessory packs. 

Drug dealers, assassins, and sex slave action figures are fine, but bar whores are not?  The Darth Talon, Slave Leia, and Oola figures are practically naked but at least they don't smoke!


I think it's the "lady of the evening" angle, combined with the characters being called "star whores" on set that just doesn't play, and that's where the line is.

We also heard from George Lucas last week that the movies are intended to play to 12 year olds.  Action/adventure movies have been around for a long time, and it goes with the territory that there's going to be dangerous people along the way in the course of those stories.  Oola and others like her can be explained away as a dancer.  But exposing kids, through a toy line, to something like prostitutes?  Yeah, I can see the line being drawn there.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darby on April 21, 2017, 02:53 PM
I personally have never been all that interested in the Tonnika Sisters, but the shroud of secrecy around their impracticality as figures is endlessly fascinating. I've heard the 'ladies of the evening' angle along with one or both of the actresses not singing a consent form for the likeness and I think it's probably somewhere in between. As one of the few human characters in the Cantina (and movie) the actresses may have been required to sign away their likenesses, but this may not have occurred until say maybe the 90's when the idea of a figure became realistic. By this time, it was clear there was $$$ involved and maybe Lucasfilm balked. Pure guess.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Matt_Fury on April 21, 2017, 04:13 PM
Cassian is an assassin.  Vader chokes innocent people to death.  Tarkin and The Death Star destroys whole cities and planets.  Leia can be Jabba's slave in a metal bikini and Jabba can have Yarna and other go-go dancers made in to figures.  Yet we can't have a figure of two women smoking cigarettes in a bar that have some obscure, off-camera nickname that 99.9% of the people will never know.

There's the problem...they were smokers!

Is it too late to modify our list and add the Scarif Shore Trooper?
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Rob on April 21, 2017, 04:55 PM
There's the problem...they were smokers!

I mean so were Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru but they made figures of them...

I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on April 21, 2017, 09:31 PM
There's the problem...they were smokers!

I mean so were Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru but they made figures of them...

I'll see myself out.

Not to mention Jabba and Dannik Jerriko and their big ol bongs. But I guess that was ok too? In any case, the Tonnikas made the cut on several sites, so it'll be interesting to see what happens with this.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 22, 2017, 09:03 AM
Keeping up the tally process before THE OFFICIAL SITE (http://www.starwars.com/news/the-3-75-inch-star-wars-vintage-collection-is-back-and-you-can-vote-for-its-next-figure) opens up voting:



Collector's Cantina (http://www.thecollectorscantina.com/article/and-winner-0)
1. Ben Skywalker (legends)
2. Lumpy
3. Ahsoka (Rebels)
4. Yakface
5. Pong Krell
(TIE) 6. Jawa (Plastic Cape)
(TIE) 6. Tonnika Sister


FLYGUY (http://www.flyguy.net/post/159802634197/the-eu-riggers-in-our-fan-poll-again-did-not)
"The EU riggers in our fan poll again did not choose wisely & voted for a figure that was clearly coming since Jaina was made : ("
-Ben Skywalker
-Ryo Chuchi
-Tonnika Sister
-ARC Trooper Fives
-Commander Bacara
-Pre Viszla


FROM 4-LOM TO ZUCKUSS (http://4lomkuss.com/and-the-1st-round-winners-are/)
-Ben Skywalker
-Dr. Aphra
-Pong Krell
-Sim Aloo
-Tonnika Sisters
-Yakface


GALACTIC HUNTER (http://www.galactichunter.com/gh/story/star-wars-fan-choice-2017-galactic-hunter-tally)
1.  Ben Skywalker
2.  Tonnika Sisters
3.  Sim Aloo
4.  Ahsoka Tano (REBELS)
5.  Jaxxon
6.  Yakface


IMPERIAL SHIPYARDS (http://www.imperialshipyards.net/SMF/index.php?topic=10255.30)
-Tonnika Sisters
-Sim Aloo
-Rogue One Rebel SpecForce Commando
-Pong Krell
-Satele Shan
-Dash Rendar


JEDI BUSINESS (http://www.jedibusiness.com/NewsDetails?id=519)
Ben Skywalker
Luke Skywalker (from The Force Awakens)
Dr. Aphra
Tonnika Sisters
Dash Rendar
Pong Krell


JEDIDEFENDER (https://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=24513.msg600414#msg600414)
1. Sim Aloo
2. Yak Face
3. Tonnika Sister(s)
4. Tzizvvt
5. Jaxxon


JEDI INSIDER (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=18456)
Chirut Imwe
Baze Malbus
Ben Skywalker
K-2SO
Hera Syndulla
Meeta Surik


JEDI NEWS (http://www.jedinews.co.uk/collecting/articles/jedi-news-finalists-hasbro-2017-star-wars-fan-figure-vote/)
1. Yakface
2. Pong Krell
3. Satine Kryze
4. Doctor Aphra
5. Tonnika Sisters
6. Padme Amidala Packing Gown – Episode II

JTA (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=20155)
Yakface
Jedi Temple Guard
Sim Aloo
Tonnika Sisters
Emporer Palpatine
Admiral Piett


REBELSCUM (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Hasbro_Vintage_Collection_Fans_Choice_Poll_Results_173428.asp)
1) Yak Face from Return of the Jedi
2) Ben Skywalker from the Expanded Universe
3) Sim Aloo from Return of the Jedi
4) Doctor Aphra from Marvel Comics
5) Tonnika Sisters from A New Hope
6) Pong Krell from the Clone Wars Series


STAR WARS ACTION NEWS (https://www.facebook.com/SWActionNews/)
1) TFA Luke Skywalker (with more than 50% more votes than our #2...far and away the most requested)
2) Darth Revan (People must be excited by the current 6-in one)
3) Ahsoka Tano (Rebels Outfit)
4) Grand Admiral Thrawn (With the 6-in figure and the new book, he's having a surge in popularity)
5) General Leia (Ep 7, in fatigues, not in blue dress)
6) Tonika Sisters (A New Hope) (Guess lots of listeners agree with me they are needed!)


STAR WARS COLLECTOR (http://starwarscollector.com/index.php/8-front-page-news/1473-voting-results-for-vintage-collection-3-75-fans-choice)
1) Yakface (ROTJ)
2) Ben Skywalker (Expanded Universe)
3) Tonnika Sisters (ANH)
4) Emperor Palpatine (ROTJ)
5) ARC Trooper Fives (The Clone Wars Series)
6) Pong Krell (The Clone Wars Series)


STAR WARS DAILY (https://www.instagram.com/p/BTGI-d1ga0j/?taken-by=starwarsdaily)
-Starkiller (Galen Marek)
-Darth Revan
-Jedi Temple Guard
-Padme Amidala (AOTC Naboo retreat)
-Captain Rex
-Luke Skywalker (The Force Awakens)


STAR WARS FIGUREN (http://www.forum.starwars-figuren.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1484&whichpage=3)
1. Jaina Solo (Pilot)
2. Yakface
3. Amanaman
4. Pre-Vizla
5. General Merrick
6. Death Squad Commander Gray Uniform


STAR WARS NEWS NET (https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/04/hasbro-fan-choice-vote-swnn-finalists-revealed.html)
-Ben Skywalker
-Doctor Aphra
-Pong Krell
-Bendu
-ARC Trooper Fives
-Assaj Ventress
-Satele Shan (The Old Republic)


STAR WARS THE BLACK SERIES (https://www.instagram.com/p/BTG1iJ4Fp0_/?taken-by=starwarstheblackseries)
-Cad Bane
-Luke Skywalker (The Force Awakens)
-Two Tubes
-ARC Trooper Fives
-Jedi Temple Guard
-Galen Marek
-Captain Rex


YAKFACE (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2017/04/21/2017-fans-choice-results-are-in/)
1.  Yakface
2.  Sim Aloo
3.  Pong Krell
4.  Tonnika Sister
5.  Dr. Aphra
6.  Satele Shan


YODA'S NEWS (http://www.yodasnews.com/star-wars-fans-choice-poll-results-our-top-six/)
Ben Skywalker
Tonnika Sisters
Yakface
Lobot
Agent Kallus
Chirrut Imwe




LEADER BOARD (19 SITES REPORTING)
-Tonnika Sisters - 14
-Yakface - 11
-Ben Skywalker - 10
-Pong Krell - 9
-Sim Aloo - 7
-Dr. Aphra - 6
-ARC Trooper Fives - 4
-Ahsoka Tano (Rebels) - 3
-Jedi Temple Guard - 3
-Luke Skywalker (The Force Awakens) - 3
-Satele Shan (The Old Republic - 3
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Scockery on April 22, 2017, 11:44 AM
There's the problem...they were smokers!

I mean so were Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru but they made figures of them...

I'll see myself out.

Put yourself out...because you're on fire.  >:D


Yak-Face...wasn't it rumored he was ready to go for the VOTC, along with Lobot and Hammerhead. So anyone that voted for them was playing into Hasbro's hands. Or not, who knows?

Ben Skywalker...dudes, pick some thing COOL from the old EU at least. Like...JAXXON  8)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 22, 2017, 01:03 PM
Quite a bit of venom from the EU pushers on social media.  Kinda funny to watch.

If they make Ben I'd buy him if he's good.  I can't see their point about sticking it to Disney somehow.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 22, 2017, 03:15 PM
Are people really still that upset about Disney relegating past EU as "Legends"?  OMG, they really need something better to do.  And do they seriously not comprehend WHY that was done?  I feel like it's been gone over ad nauseum at this point.

As for the candidates?  I suspect that either Lucasfilm or Hasbro is going to veto the Tonnikas.  I'd be surprised to see them on the list of finalists.  I think the spamming campaign for Ben Skywalker is nonsense, and that may get shut down too.  Especially since we saw in the past how Lucasfilm had Anakin Solo killed off in the EU to avoid confusion between him and Anakin Skywalker during the PT movie era.  I see the potential for them to squash this Ben Skywalker thing to ensure some clarity with Ben Solo.

With all of that considered, and who's left on the leader board?  I'll vote for Yakface.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 22, 2017, 03:39 PM
I was annoyed with Disney at first. But after a little bit you get over it. You understand why. And take it for what it is. The old EU stuff still exists either way
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 22, 2017, 03:48 PM
Precisely.  The books are still there for anyone to read and enjoy.  But from a story standpoint they would have painted future film projects into a number of corners.  How would that really be enjoyable for movie audiences?
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 22, 2017, 05:10 PM
To me this is all EU now.  Lucas has nothing to do with it and Disney just had the $ to buy it.  Some random billionaire could bought it and done as he pleased.  Disney just does really elaborate EU in my view.  It's not like suddenly all the old stuff isn't there to read or play and enjoy.  I don't get the rage myself.  I can't begin to imagine such a lack of imagination.  It's like without instructions they don't know to exist.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Rob on April 22, 2017, 06:31 PM
To me this is all EU now.  Lucas has nothing to do with it and Disney just had the $ to buy it.  Some random billionaire could bought it and done as he pleased. 

Devil's Advocate, that assumes Lucas would have sold it to anyone.  I don't think he would have.  I think Disney had to convince him that it was in good hands first.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 22, 2017, 07:26 PM
I'm fine with major motion picture makes it all time canon.

If Disney sells Star Wars to whatever billionaire and they say Force Awakens isn't canon. Then I'm okay with crazed long-term rage
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darby on April 22, 2017, 07:34 PM
The idea that any group of fans would be push for a certain figure to somehow 'stick it' to Disney is asinine. Disney only profits from it, whomever ends up being the final choice. Some of the language being thrown around in these discussions on other sites are just proof collecting has lost the plot. Paul Harrison's chickens have come home to roost with the negativity, shaming and melodrama. The only sustained effort in this poll has been the assault on him and his credibility. You reap what you sow. The investment people seem to have in this debate isn't one character or another but their own personal stake in what Star Wars means to them. Somehow the EU is some sacred realm of fandom that must be preserved or reasserted over the alt-canon they feel Disney is imposing on them as if the EU meant anything at all before. All the EU was a placeholder until Lucas made his own decisions and he was vocal about that from the start. We all have our parts of it we liked and parts we didn't. It's no hill to die on. Fandom has never been less appealing to me. It's traditionally been a place where you could go to get away from the frustrations of the world, but those have imposed on the hobby.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 22, 2017, 08:38 PM
I'm fine with major motion picture makes it all time canon.

If Disney sells Star Wars to whatever billionaire and they say Force Awakens isn't canon. Then I'm okay with crazed long-term rage

That may happen.  Well... Apple may be interested in buying Disney (http://fortune.com/2017/04/13/apple-disney-mega-merger/).
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 22, 2017, 09:42 PM
That's where the argument loses me...  no need to **** on other people's "fandom" because they're doing stuff you don't like.  It's toys and in particular it's ONE toy you may not get to dictate what you want...   Not THAT big of a deal.  Sucks sure but not worth demeaning other people's likes.

I like EU I just would rather not get toys of it right now I guess.  Well not Ben Skywalker anyway. 

It's like going out of ur way to make it seem like 6" toys aren't selling.  Pushing agendas is just lame.  Be honest that articulated 3.75" saw clearance racks for years just like 6" sees it at times, just like 5POA sees it and just like everything sees it.  Lying or twisting the truth to fit a narrative is belittling to your readers but your own "work" to boot.

Rob, I considered that and I'm sure there was something to that even but it's been pretty widely noted that Lucas went from consultant to either disinterested or disinvolved pretty fast so random billionaire, Disney, or donated to fans, it's still not Lucas at this point...  to me it's just all new EU I'll enjoy or not.

I kind of liken it to Tolkien stuff.  If you were a purist the movies had moments that would be questionable to you, at best.  Possibly outrageous to you even.  If you were able to distance yourself from that though they're amazing films.  It's all fake so it's not like you can't view it differently.  Anal retentive fans, can't say I've ever met on I enjoyed talking shop with.  :-\
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: ronstoney on April 23, 2017, 09:12 PM
Keeping up the tally process before THE OFFICIAL SITE (http://www.starwars.com/news/the-3-75-inch-star-wars-vintage-collection-is-back-and-you-can-vote-for-its-next-figure) opens up voting:


LEADER BOARD (19 SITES REPORTING)
-Tonnika Sisters - 14

Holy cow! I didn't even know there were 14 sites used for voting. I like these odds.

Such a legend behind the elusiveness of these 2 action figures. A Holy Grail.

The EU crowd and the OT crowds could come together to vote the Tonnika Sisters into
existence which... exist in both worlds (so I'm told) and bring these legends from "Legends" and Canon so we can hold them in our hands.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 24, 2017, 10:59 AM
Holy cow! I didn't even know there were 14 sites used for voting.

There were 23 participating sites.  The full list was available at StarWars.com (http://www.starwars.com/news/the-3-75-inch-star-wars-vintage-collection-is-back-and-you-can-vote-for-its-next-figure).


LEADER BOARD (19 SITES REPORTING)
-Tonnika Sisters - 14
-Yakface - 11
-Ben Skywalker - 10
-Pong Krell - 9
-Sim Aloo - 7
-Dr. Aphra - 6
-ARC Trooper Fives - 4
-Ahsoka Tano (Rebels) - 3
-Jedi Temple Guard - 3
-Luke Skywalker (The Force Awakens) - 3
-Satele Shan (The Old Republic - 3

With the last two 6" polls, we saw a bit of tweaking in the round one results (cough *Sabine* (https://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=23907.msg582797#msg582797) cough) to be sure the finalists had a equal representation.  Based on that "desire for balance", it would make sense that Tonnikas, Aphra, and maybe even Ahsoka (Rebels) make the Round Two poll.   

If Satele Shan (or some other female that got round one votes, Like Jaina, Leia, Hera, etc) shows up on the SW.com Round Two poll in place of the Tonnikas then that is going to be the most definitive "seriously, these will never be made" evidence we've ever seen.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: SnTrooper on April 24, 2017, 12:38 PM
COFFEE WITH KENOBI (https://www.coffeewithkenobi.com/coffee-kenobis-finalists-hasbros-star-wars-fan-figure-vote/)
1. Ben Skywalker
2. Doctor Aphra
3. Ahsoka Tano (Star Wars Rebels)
4. HK-47
5. Jaxxon
And tied for sixth place:
    Tonnika Sisters
    Padme Amidala (Geonosis)
    Satele Shan
    ARC Trooper Fives
    Kyle Katarn
    Mara Jade
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darby on April 24, 2017, 05:05 PM
I think all of these from the leader board would be slam dunks for Hasbro. I also think there will be some sort of 'oh, we were already making X' that comes out of this as Yakface will probably lead the Kenner votes but lose to Ben Skywalker. A third poll where a EU character wins in suspicious circumstances will turn off a lot of collectors to participating in future polls and Hasbro doesn't want that.

A real curveball could come with the Tonnika Sisters though. If they win or show well, there will have to be some reckoning with why they won't be made. Or maybe they will make them now. Plenty of impossible things happen all the time these days.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: McMetal on April 24, 2017, 05:46 PM
They already made a Rebels Ahsoka figure in both scales, plus the reissued SA version in the Walmart line. I love her as much as anyone, but it's not like the character is being neglected. That spot would be much better served by someone else IMO.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 24, 2017, 06:00 PM
COFFEE WITH KENOBI (https://www.coffeewithkenobi.com/coffee-kenobis-finalists-hasbros-star-wars-fan-figure-vote/)
1. Ben Skywalker
2. Doctor Aphra
3. Ahsoka Tano (Star Wars Rebels)
4. HK-47
5. Jaxxon
And tied for sixth place:
    Tonnika Sisters
    Padme Amidala (Geonosis)
    Satele Shan
    ARC Trooper Fives
    Kyle Katarn
    Mara Jade

WTF?!??

Including a 6 way tie for 6th place (7 if you count both Tonnikas) amounts to submitting 12 candidates in the poll.  I have the sneaking suspicion that someone at Hasbro or Lucasfilm will make that decision for the rather indecisive folks at Coffee with Kenobi. 
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 24, 2017, 06:15 PM
Geonosis Padme has been done to death too.  Several figures on that list have already been done.  Ahsoka, Padme, Mara, HK (though hard to find).  I guess they'd like them on vintage cards.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: JediJman on April 24, 2017, 06:42 PM
This is the most press that I think Coffee With Kenobi has ever seen.  Well played, CWK.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 27, 2017, 10:36 AM
Voting should have opened some time yesterday, but I haven't seen anything about the Fan's Choice Poll finals over at The Official Site.  I wonder if they're trying to investigate the rumors of ballot stuffing?
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darby on April 27, 2017, 11:25 AM
I was half joking on Twitter yesterday when I suggested they could be struggling with how to roll out a poll where the top candidates have some, um, flaws but I don't know. I think the Tonnika Sisters are probably a sticking point because they can't do them. I think the Ben Skywalker issue and the ugliness that came out of it must be a concern. I think one or more of these potential candidates like Yakface are already on the board or 'will be' to offset concerns about the inevitable winner. Or they just don't know how to prevent the ballot stuffing that was present in the last few polls. Pretty odd there's no comment at all about the delay.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 27, 2017, 12:13 PM
I'm curious to see when the poll will go live.  I continue to believe that at least two of the characters may get vetoed.  But I think the real source of the delay might be tied to Lucasfilm & Hasbro putting some sort of verification system in place in an effort to counter the ballot stuffing.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Dave on April 27, 2017, 12:29 PM
I'm curious to see when the poll will go live.  I continue to believe that at least two of the characters may get vetoed.  But I think the real source of the delay might be tied to Lucasfilm & Hasbro putting some sort of verification system in place in an effort to counter the ballot stuffing.

None of this should have been a surprise though.  They should have already been prepared for "unacceptable" candidates, either because of EU status or otherwise.

I also think there was likely ballot stuffing going on last time and if you're going to conduct a web poll you should either accept that ballot stuffing is going to happen or have a system in place to try and defeat it.

With proper planning neither of these should be cause for delay in rolling out the poll.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 27, 2017, 12:36 PM
I get the sense that the failing may have been on the planning end.  No doubt the folks at StarWars.com, who are going to be conducting the final poll, were VERY focused on SWCO.  Were they prepared coming off of SWCO to dive into this?
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darby on April 27, 2017, 12:42 PM
Could be, but these are separate initiatives that should have different teams driving them. All of the coordination should have been worked out prior to SWCO as the roll out was part of the announcement. You never know though.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: McMetal on April 27, 2017, 01:29 PM
If they wanted to run a fair poll with no ballot stuffing, the solution was simple, just tell people they aren't allowed to vote for EU characters. then they would have no horse in the race to ruin it for the rest of us.

Or just do like Dancing with the Stars and say the final decision is "made based on a combination of viewer votes and judges' scores" which offers zero transparency and allows them to do whatever the hell they want.  :P
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 27, 2017, 02:42 PM
It sounds like it may just be a case of not leaving themselves enough time in-between Round 1 and Round 2.

A lot of the StarWars.com team is still recovering and catching up from SWCO.  Most (all?) of the Hasbro PR team is at the TTPM Spring Showcase (http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170420005312/en/TTPM-Spring-Showcase-Reveal-Season%E2%80%99s-Top-Toy) showing off the Hasbro toys on TTPM's Summer 2017 Most Wanted list (https://twitter.com/HasbroNews).

Results were due to Hasbro on 4/21 and the poll was supposed to start on 4/26.  Maybe someone should have guessed that two business days between those two dates were not enough to get it flipped from Round 1 to Round 2.

We reached out to Hasbro for comment but, like I said above, with all the PR folks busy with the Spring Showcase we may not get any.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: SnTrooper on April 28, 2017, 09:38 AM
There was another poll (best part of the Last Jedi trailer) that was posted yesterday but it wasn't working and now is gone. I wonder if they haven't started the FC poll because they are having technical problems with their poll system.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Ben on April 28, 2017, 07:12 PM
http://www.starwars.com/news/vote-now-for-the-next-3-75-inch-star-wars-vintage-collection-figure (http://www.starwars.com/news/vote-now-for-the-next-3-75-inch-star-wars-vintage-collection-figure)


The vote is finally up. I picked Sim Aloo, though he's currently dead last at 8% of the vote. Looks like you can vote more than once too, though I haven't tried.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Scott on April 28, 2017, 07:31 PM
**** Hasbro for not telling us the Tonnika sisters weren't eligible...wwe could have picked someone else
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 28, 2017, 07:34 PM
Exactly
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2017, 07:54 PM
Agreed.  Stipulate **** but don't say everything is game then pull rug.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2017, 08:00 PM
Second thought, lol @ Ben Skywalker not making the final 5 even.  Unless he's already planned (doubtful), that surprises me as I thought he was in top 5.  Doctor Aphra?  Here's my shocked face. :-l

Then the Asian captain guy from Rebels...  I'd be ok there but for me it's either Sim or Yak.  Before everyone votes do we wanna try to coordinate?  Too hard?  Just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 28, 2017, 08:02 PM
LEADER BOARD (19 SITES REPORTING)
-Tonnika Sisters - 14
-Yakface - 11
-Ben Skywalker - 10
-Pong Krell - 9
-Sim Aloo - 7
-Dr. Aphra - 6
-ARC Trooper Fives - 4
-Ahsoka Tano (Rebels) - 3

So...  looks like Ben and Tonnikas got dropped and Emperor got swapped in for Pong Krell for some reason...  wonder if he was just going to cost too much with his size and extra arms and such?

Agree 100% that to claim "no restrictions" and then to turn around and flop on Tonnikas is pretty lame.  Probably the final, definitive "these are never gonna get made" that no one was hoping for (but deep down we were all kinda expecting :().


Really, really hoping the "old collector crowd" can rally behind Sim Aloo because there are so many rumors that Yak Face is coming.  Sadly, the "old man collector" vote is gonna get split across Sim/Yak and that'll open the door for Aphra or Ahsoka to win.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2017, 08:04 PM
Oh and Palps and Ashoka (again?)?  Really?  I like Ashoka but I'd rather a realistic young one to go with realistic Ani.  She was also a sorta rare TCW figure as a young character but whatever.  Palps boggles my mind that he made anyone's list.  At least in that outfit.  Office needs it more.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 28, 2017, 08:12 PM
?????????

I agree with all that's been said.

Sucks people wasted votes if Hasbro was going to make certain characters off limits.

Ahsoka and Palpatine? Obviously great characters but again?

I don't get the Fives vote but to each their own.

Go Sim and Yak!
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: JediJman on April 28, 2017, 08:15 PM
Funny how these events seem intended to drive collector excitement and seem to have the exact opposite effect.  I'm not excited about anyone in that list.  Aphra is a joke, Ahsoka would just be a re-pack of the WM-BS from last year, and where did the Emperor come from?  I'm not even going to vote - it clearly doesn't matter since they'll just make whoever they want anyway.  I really try to avoid the HAsbro bashing bandwagon, but I wish there was some better way to send a message back to Hasbro that this is not acceptable. 
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 28, 2017, 08:48 PM
I stated my case about the Tonnikas and Ben Skywalker, so I am really not surprised about them being omitted from the poll.  For the record, I would like to see the Tonnikas in my own cantina diorama, but based on everything we've heard and read I think that they're just never going to happen.  And I think that LFL vetoed Ben Skywalker to keep from causing confusion with Ben Solo in the ST movies.

Dr. Aphra, Sim Aloo, Yakface and Fives were among the characters who tallied well in the polling, so no surprises there.

Where I am surprised is with the omission of Pong Krell, and the inclusion of Emporer Palpatine.  I think Krell is a cool character, and I'm having a tough time finding why he would be struck from the finals.  Krell certainly isn't anywhere near as controversial as the Tonnikas or Ben Skywalker, unless this figure presents some serious design challenges in the TVC figure format.  And Palpatine?  I don't think we've gotten a definitively GREAT version of ROTJ Palpatine.  His inclusion makes me think that this figure might already be in the works.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on April 28, 2017, 09:15 PM
I'm guessing Krell is too expensive to make.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Scockery on April 28, 2017, 09:23 PM
I still say they more or less have had Yak Face ready to go for years. I also say that there's worthier never before made aliens, but I guess none of them have the mystique of Yakky.  ::)
I'm over Ahsoka...
Slim Aloo will be dead last.  :(
Palpatine..., while a proper VOTC Palps could be great, what we need more is a deluxe one with his throne.
Dr. Meh-phra...what happened to cool looking "EU" characters?  I don't buy into her. I cannot see her interacting with a live action Vader, etc.
Fives...which version? I'm mostly over clones, too.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2017, 09:26 PM
Whoops I thot Fives was the Rebel captain Sato or whatever.  Took a better look and care even less.

Sim Aloo is looking good. :(

Aphra is like we r being forced to like the new comics.  Haven't read one yet.  :-\
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: McMetal on April 28, 2017, 09:28 PM
That is so freaking epic. Suck it Ben Skywalker! Sad about the Tonnikas but at least it's more of a legitimate poll now.

I shall vote Sim to show solidarity with JD.  :)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2017, 09:31 PM
If we're never getting the Tonnika Sisters, I'd settle for an official and believable explanation about the reason.

Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on April 28, 2017, 09:53 PM
Its gotta be the camel toe.  If only they'd have unsnuggied themselves, I'm sure they'd be toys by now.

(https://jedidefender.com/news/images/2017_04/star-wars-photos-behind-the-scenes-tonnikas.jpg)(https://jedidefender.com/news/images/2017_04/tonnika_sisters_book.jpg)

Went digging through my saved cantina photos folder and dug this one up too...  like others have said, if this on-set joke is the reason they can't get figures it's just so dumb. :(

(https://jedidefender.com/news/images/2017_04/tonnika_sisters_mugshot.jpg)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Ben on April 28, 2017, 09:59 PM
I figure this is like every other Fan vote they've ever had- the finalists are figures they're working on already, and have already been approved by Lucasfilm.

I wonder if Dorme or Cliegg would have placed higher if Hasbro had said the Tonnikas were out of the running. But I'll take Sim or my Yak Face resculpt. Heck, even a great ROTJ Emperor would be nice.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Rob on April 28, 2017, 10:32 PM
What the hell is Doctor Aphra??!?

Also, we already have some pretty good Ahsoka figures... if she wins I'm going to be bummed. Same thing with Palpatine... why is there an outcry for another palpatine figure?.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on April 28, 2017, 10:38 PM
Yeah I like Evolutions Palps just fine.

Sim Aloo ahoy.  I'm voting Sim.  I just want him done so I can not see him on people's lists even.  He's not exciting but he is overdue given we got other dignitaries first I guess.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: GrandMoffNick on April 28, 2017, 11:42 PM
I'm hoping for Yak Face or Sim.

That being said, all I can do is laugh when old farts say things like, "who is Aphra?" and act like because we don't know who she is that no one else must. Can't be that the "kids" now into Star Wars care and know about her (and are partly responsible for us having a fan vote of Star Wars figures in 2017)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 29, 2017, 09:06 AM
I voted.  And it seems like Dr. Aphra is pulling away, but REBELS Ahsoka is holding a strong second.  I personally have no stock in Aphra, but she has been one of the most recognizable new characters in the Marvel comics Star Wars run along with the droids 0-0-0 and BT-1 from the Darth Vader title.  And I only know that from thumbing through some of the Darth Vader comics in stores and then moving along.  I think I've bought a grand total of ONE of the new Star Wars comics that Marvel has published since they took control following the Dark Horse run.

I like Ahsoka.  I think she's a strong character.  And I think that if there's a REBELS themed wave of realistic looking characters in the upcoming TVC line, Ahsoka would fit in well there.  Does she need a fan's choice poll to make that happen?  I'm thinking probably not.

I'm still a little curious about Pong Krell being struck from contention.  Was there some perception that he might have been the beneficiary from ballot stuffing like Ben Skywalker?  Because there were SEVERAL characters that wound up on a lot of lists that seemed like they may have been more than coincidental.  Or was it the nature of the character?  Krell was really quick to send Clones to their deaths.  Was his cold-blooded killing by one of the Clone Troopers regarded as one of the darker moments of the saga?  Or was it a size issue, where getting that figure made and onto a TVC card would be too challenging?
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Brian on April 29, 2017, 01:57 PM
Honestly, I'm fairly ok with any of the figures from the finalists winning. In pulling for Sim or Yakface, and that's where my vote went as well. I don't necessarily get the need for another Ahsoka, I like the character and all but I'm fine with the one we just saw re-released in the Black Series line. It is more telling to me that the two "old school" collector picks (Sim and Yak), are both dead last in this poll. Are we really that much of a dying breed any more? I am sort of glad the whole Ben Skywalker movement didn't gain ground. I don't get the whole "sticking it" to Disney angle. Not sure how they expected to move forward with new media (movies, TV, books, or games) being tied to that years of mess of continuity.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Diddly on April 29, 2017, 02:00 PM
What the hell is Doctor Aphra??!?

New comic character. She's in the Darth Vader series and now has a series of her own.

I voted Aphra... might as well get a new figure out of this. Ahsoka and Palpatine, meh, and I even want a decent OT Emperor figure. Sorry to the OT aliens.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darby on April 29, 2017, 02:58 PM
Voted for Sim Aloo mostly because he was the only POTF figure I bought back in the day. Who knows the inner workings of a 10 year old mind. I figure Yak Face is a certainty. Ahsoka would be great - basically she'd be a scaled down version of the 6 inch figure - and I also think she's a lock. Aphra I don't really care about. Fives would be very welcome. The Emperor, ok, he'd be on a vintage card but they've never really got him right and I don't expect they ever will.

Tonnikas - we'll never see them. Ben Skywalker - it was a little too obvious.

The poll unfortunately is reflective of the deep divides between fans in SW. Both in the hyper negative world that some traffic in that is now eating its own tail and also just the plain fact that SW fandom is no longer monolithic. You have old school fans like most of us here (I think), younger PT/CW fans, EU / game fans, and I'd say new fans that have come in with the ST. All of them were more or less represented in the voting and the final poll. Aphra will probably win and as a consolation we'll find out Yak Face is coming. Sim Aloo I fear is toast.  :(
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 30, 2017, 10:07 AM
I voted for Sim Aloo, mostly because I'm still holding out hope for modern versions of each of the Vintage figures and it'd be great if we could finally cross him off the list.

I'm like Rob - I asked the same question - "who the heck is Doctor Aphra?!?!" - but I guess if she were to win that would be at least a new character that's never been made before.

Fives seems like a weird choice, I guess I'm not remembering him very well - did we never get a version of him in the Clone Wars line? Seems like an odd choice really, especially since if he were to come out in the Vintage line, I doubt they would do him in the style of the Clone Wars figures.

I would have hoped that The Emperor and Ahsoka would be dead last as we really don't need new versions of either of them. Yak Face has been done before and definitely needs a re-do, but I'd be shocked if he wasn't already "on deck" for a return of the Vintage line already.

Kinda a shame that there aren't any members of the Ghost Crew on here. While I'm not a fan of the 6" line, I do like what they've done with Kanan, Sabine and Hera. Considering that Disney Parks just gave us what is essentially a definitive, Vintage-esque version of Chopper, I think it would be great if the Vintage line featured "realistic" versions of the rest of the Ghost crew.

Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 30, 2017, 02:26 PM
Cast my vote for Sim Aloo. A little stunned that the two figures I want the most (Sim and Yakface) are dead last. And I'm with you guys, who the heck is the leader? I just don't spend any time in the EU.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Scockery on April 30, 2017, 02:28 PM
Tonnika Sisters are identical twins...that aren't identical. Okay.  :-\
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Nicklab on April 30, 2017, 04:11 PM
Cast my vote for Sim Aloo. A little stunned that the two figures I want the most (Sim and Yakface) are dead last. And I'm with you guys, who the heck is the leader? I just don't spend any time in the EU.

Dr. Aphra is a character in the new Marvel comics run, and debuted in the Darth Vader title.  I think she made her first comic appearance in 2015, and I think she may have her own title now.  Beyond that I'm little help on Aphra.  I was all in with the Dark Horse comics Star Wars titles for a while, but I tapped out at least a year or two before Dark Horse's license to produce Star Wars comics ended.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: JediJman on May 1, 2017, 11:52 AM
I haven't read the Aphra stuff yet, but I'm hoping it's better than the crap I've read online.  I think she is a main character in the Vader comics and has her own series now.  Seems like a character created for iPhone millenials, with her dialogue straight out of Saturday Night SciFy movies.  You can read up on her here if you're interested. 

Chelli Lona Aphra was a human female archaeologist who was recruited by Darth Vader after the Battle of Yavin. Aphra, along with her two assassin droid companions, 0-0-0 (Triple-Zero) and BT-1 (Beetee), fulfilled several missions for Darth Vader before falling out of his favor. (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chelli_Lona_Aphra)

Maybe they'll make her a pack with her assassin droids?  That at least sounds a little promising. Some of her less inspiring quotes:

"Mom's dead in a ditch on that alien world she took us to when she left you for being obsessed by old dumb stuff! Oh—the psychologist says I may have some issues. Fair to warn you."
―Chelli Aphra, to her father

"You...are even more interesting than I could have hoped, Sir Vader."
―Aphra to Darth Vader
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on May 1, 2017, 01:34 PM
See, Aphra and her droids would make a great comic pack with an issue of Dr. Aphra #1.  I'd be all for the return of comic packs for that reason.

Someone like Doctor Aphra really illustrates my main pet peeve with most of these EU figure selections in the polls - I HATE INCOMPLETE TEAMS.

It's always bugged me in super-hero lines where you get 80% of a team but there are always glaring holes and missing characters.  That's why I've always been a fan of things like the comic packs or the box sets for the EU Stuff.  I'm not a 6" collector, but it would bug the **** out of me to have 6" Kanan, Sabine, and Hera... and no Chopper, Zeb, and Ezra.

It still bugs me to this day that Hasbro went ahead and gave us Jacen and Jaina but never completed the set and gave us Anakin Solo.  It still bugs me to this day that we never got Guri or Leebo to go with Dash Rendar and Xixor.  We got Kyle Katarn, but no Jan Ors!  On and on.

I'd buy TVC Aphra, but I'd be annoyed we didn't get her droids to go with her.  I know that's mainly on me and my OCD, but it still bugs me when the one-off dudes pop up in the line (I'm looking at you Nelvaan Anakin.  And you, Darth Plagueis.  And you, Darth Bane. ETc etc etc)   :-X
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Dave on May 1, 2017, 01:57 PM

So...  looks like Ben and Tonnikas got dropped and Emperor got swapped in for Pong Krell for some reason...  wonder if he was just going to cost too much with his size and extra arms and such?

Agree 100% that to claim "no restrictions" and then to turn around and flop on Tonnikas is pretty lame.  Probably the final, definitive "these are never gonna get made" that no one was hoping for (but deep down we were all kinda expecting :().

Its hard for me to describe how stupid this all is.  Why even bother with a "Round 1" when you're going to ignore half of the top vote getters and insert some others that collectors didn't ask for?  What is the point?

Hasbro should just put a list of figures out there from their "parking lot" that they want to make and have us vote on them.

Who wants another Emperor figure?  Is that in anyone's top 30 figures they most want?

I'm tempted to not even vote this is annoying me so much.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on May 1, 2017, 02:03 PM
Yeah, a parking list poll might have been better, or a "narrower" field that rotates every year, like OT figures, PT figures, ST figures, stand-alones, TV and other media.  At least Cliegg Lars might have a chance then.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 1, 2017, 03:00 PM
I'm onboard with you and your OCD Jeff, BUT this is how my "wish list" goes:

1) All the EU guys from some book/game/etc.

2) ONE RANDOM EU GUY FROM SOME BOOK/GAME/ETC.

3) no guy from some EU book/game/etc.

I'd like the Anakin Solo, but am happy we at least got Jacen and Jaina
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 1, 2017, 03:02 PM
I'd buy TVC Aphra, but I'd be annoyed we didn't get her droids to go with her.

Well, I know the eyes aren't 100% accurate, the new all-black C-3PO style protocol droid that you can build at Disney is pretty much 0-0-0. So if they ever make her, her protocol droid is covered and since I never thought I'd see a Build-a-Droid Astromech with a gun, and we got that, I don't see any reason why Disney couldn't "save the day" under the Build-a-Droid line and modify an R4 dome (or make a completely new dome sculpt) to give us BT-1.

But I agree with you 100% - would be great if we could get "completed teams" for many of the characters you mentioned.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Dave on May 1, 2017, 03:26 PM
It's always bugged me in super-hero lines where you get 80% of a team but there are always glaring holes and missing characters.  That's why I've always been a fan of things like the comic packs or the box sets for the EU Stuff.  I'm not a 6" collector, but it would bug the **** out of me to have 6" Kanan, Sabine, and Hera... and no Chopper, Zeb, and Ezra.

I'm okay with some random one off stuff, but how we're 3+ years in to Rebels and only have a partial Rebels team is really odd.  I hope these get made in the next year or our chances of seeing these is probably slim to none.  That would really bug me to not have a complete team, but have a Thrawn.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: JediJman on May 1, 2017, 06:08 PM
Well, I have mixed feelings on all this.  For the EU/Legends stuff, I'm just happy to get anyone now that Disney has bought SW.  I'd love to get some of the key New Jedi Order figures or a Barabel figure at some point, but I'm not holding my breath.  Like Nick, I'll take whatever surprises pop up, but not expecting much more.

For something like Rebels though, I am really frustrated by the lack of a complete core team.  It's Disney created, it's been on for years, and they've even incorporated some of the characters into the movies.  The Thrawn set is cool as all get out and I like the 40th Anniversary figs, but not having a complete 6" team is just all kinds of dumb.  Heck, they could have slipped a few of these characters into the 40th anniversary line instead of doubles of some characters.  They must just not want to make money at Hasbro.   
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 1, 2017, 10:51 PM
Honestly, that list is weak across the board.  I wish I could have voted for Emperor's Royal Guard or Scarif Stormtrooper.  I also wouldn't mind a Rogue One Darth Vader in Bacta Tank.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on May 4, 2017, 12:42 PM
Doctor Aphra is your winner (http://www.starwars.com/news/doctor-aphra-wins-hasbros-star-wars-fan-figure-vote)

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Doctor Aphra is going on her biggest adventure yet: a journey from the pages of Marvel’s Star Wars comics to your toy collection. And it’s all thanks to you!

The kinda good, kinda bad archaeologist has won Hasbro’s Star Wars Fan Figure Vote on StarWars.com, meaning that she’ll be making the jump to toy form and joining the new 3.75-inch Star Wars Vintage Collection. Doctor Aphra, introduced in 2016 in Marvel’s Darth Vader series, rocketed quickly to fan-favorite status. She was dangerous, funny, and kept the company of two psychotic droids, but wasn’t completely without a heart; it was hard not to root for her, even when battling our heroes. Today, Doctor Aphra stars in her own ongoing series and cosplay sightings are regular.

“I’m of a generation that some of my earliest memories are of Star Wars figures and the magic herein,” Doctor Aphra creator and series writer Kieron Gillen tells StarWars.com. “The idea that someone Salva [Larroca] and I made up is going to be one of those, immortal in plastic, feels all kind of magical.”

While runner-up Ahsoka Tano (Star Wars Rebels version) made the contest a close one, Aphra, in typical fashion, remained a few steps ahead and didn’t look back.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Rob on May 4, 2017, 01:14 PM
I know I'm in the old-fart category of Star Wars collectors at this point, but I'm not that old, and I'm really disappointed that the winner is some weird new EU character that I'd literally never heard of.  I don't know her story, but the character design is beyond boring.  A woman in a vest with a weird helmet... yay.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to lose sleep or anything, but I've been wanting a new Sim Aloo for nearly 20 years now... so as far as collecting disappointment goes, this is up there.

Hopefully Hasbro puts the runners up on their to-do list.

Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: GrandMoffNick on May 4, 2017, 02:41 PM
I voted for Sim as well but the 6% he received doesn't really say much for him as a whole.

I would argue Aphra's boring outfit means the "coolness" of her character is there.

Why I feel the urge to "stick up" for this character I don't know much about is beyond me, but how does the 6% of us who voted for Sim and don't know who Aphra is outweigh the 36% who destroyed our choice? That's the attitude that irks me.

If I'm a 20 year old who reads these comics, the choice to vote for Aphra or some guy in a movie from way before my birth with 16 seconds of screen time seems obvious

Don't quote my %
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jesse James on May 4, 2017, 02:50 PM
Ultimately I'm sorta ok with Aphra...  She'll be background filler.  Like the front page story said though, I hope her droids arrive too.  It'll complete things more.

Like Jeff said, teams are nicer when complete.  We got Tassu Leech (well, I didn't cuz I couldn't find the damn little freak) but none of the rest.  We got the Guavian Enforcer, but not the smarmy british guy.

We got Han in his coat, but not General Leia.  We got good Rey and Poe figures, but a ****** Han...

It's the incompleteness of things that sucks.

We got HK47 and Bastilla Shan, but we never got ANYONE else from the group in KOTOR and there's a TON, but they're all important, unique, and would've made a kickass looking group of figures if they'd done them all.  :-\
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Dave on May 4, 2017, 03:25 PM
My hope is that they create a special three pack of Aphra and her droids, or a four pack with Vader or some other figure.  This doesn't need to be a single carded figure, and I hope they take this opportunity to do something more interesting.

Ultimately I'll get this figure even though it wouldn't be in my top 100 wanted figures.  I just wish Hasbro would have handled the round one idea submissions in a much, much better way.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: P-Siddy on May 4, 2017, 03:38 PM
I think the problem is that with polls like this, it's going to get the EU vote most of the time because it's a rare thing anymore to get an EU figure without winning a fan poll.  Maybe they figure Hasbro's more likely to do Sim Aloo over an EU character so fans go that route.  I don't know it's conjecture on my part.

I'm glad that those that want her are getting her, but she doesn't mean anything to me since I don't read the comics and books anymore.  Just not enough time or interest anymore.  To some, that probably makes me not a "real fan" but whatever.  I enjoy what I enjoy.

I do hope that Hasbro revamps subsequent fan polls though.  It's rather disheartening that half of the top six choices were disallowed with no reason whatsoever given by Hasbro... and they were, what?, 3 of the top 4?  Next time (if there is one), Hasbro should specifically state which characters are allow and which aren't.  Maybe give a reason, or not.  Or as someone said, maybe Hasbro should put all of the figures on their parking lot and vote from there.  Or do a tournament?  Or do a rotation in media so there is diversity in the selections (OT one year, PT next year, EU next, ST year 4, Stand-alones, year 5)... that way everyone is placated.

Oh well, one can "hope" (Rebellions are built on hope)
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: McMetal on May 4, 2017, 04:58 PM
Not surprised, still disappointed. Are all those people who voted for her really going to buy an action figure? I get the appeal of a never before released figure, but there so still so many from TFA and R1 that ultimately matter more IMO.

Oh well, happy to have gone down swinging for Sim.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on May 7, 2017, 11:54 AM
I know I'm in the old-fart category of Star Wars collectors at this point, but I'm not that old, and I'm really disappointed that the winner is some weird new EU character that I'd literally never heard of.  I don't know her story, but the character design is beyond boring.  A woman in a vest with a weird helmet... yay.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to lose sleep or anything, but I've been wanting a new Sim Aloo for nearly 20 years now... so as far as collecting disappointment goes, this is up there.

Hopefully Hasbro puts the runners up on their to-do list.

Yeah, but she's got a tattoo sleeve and goggles, so you know she's fierce. The whole character reminds me of this (https://youtu.be/AySXu8x-RnA).

(this is nothing against tattoo sleeves, by the way, just the contrived way they're used to "attitude up" a character.)

Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on May 7, 2017, 12:25 PM
(this is nothing against tattoo sleeves, by the way, just the contrived way they're used to "attitude up" a character.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz42g2fTsMY
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: JediJman on May 8, 2017, 12:21 PM
So, what really happened here is that Hasbro wanted to make Aphra and hyped her up by making her seem like a "Fan Favorite" with this goofy poll.  The six characters included were not the six from the fan sites and there's really no way to track who is driving up the % on any given figure.  If you were Hasbro, would you make any of these other bit characters that a handful of loyal buyers might purchase?  Or would you push for a new comic character that could drive cross purchasing between figures and books, further enable the push for female heroes, and maybe even lead to added mediums down the road if she sells well?  The only other possible choice was Ahsoka, since they could just re-pack the WMBS version to do this on the cheap.  I submit to you that the other four options were never really options at all.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Dave on May 8, 2017, 01:12 PM
So Disney owns Marvel, and Disney owns Star Wars.  So maybe some big shot at Disney/Marvel/Star Wars twisted a few arms at Hasbro to get the poll to work out in their favor for some free cross promotion.
Title: Re: 2017 Hasbro Star Wars Fan Figure Vote
Post by: Jeff on May 8, 2017, 01:40 PM
The only other possible choice was Ahsoka, since they could just re-pack the WMBS version to do this on the cheap.

It would have been hilarous watching the reaction if Ahsoka had won and Hasbro had done exactly that and just re-issued VC102 Ahsoka (http://www.rebelscum.com/Ahsoka_Tano_Vintage_Collection_TVC_VC102.asp). 

The "that's her Clone Wars outfit, not Rebels" cries could have fallen on the same deaf ears that gave us another black jumpsuit Mara Jade when the vote winner was supposed to be her Jedi outfit. :P