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Title: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth Broem on March 25, 2005, 08:24 AM
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Some of the figures are ok I suppose.  They are rehashes though.  I would not mind having the Clone Wars Anakin figure.

Somewhat disappointed with these overall. 
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Brian on March 25, 2005, 11:03 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure what to think of them.  Not a real clear view, but some (not all) of the figures look to be new, or partially new.  Hard to tell with Hasbro's lighting, which makes everything look spiffier it seems.  The mention of an Obi-Wan with Clone Armor has me interested, but I'll have to see these closer or get more details before I pick them up.  Could be interesting though, depending on the price and the figures.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Scott on March 25, 2005, 11:07 AM
Looks like Anakin and possibly Obi-Wan are new.  I think the Clone Wars movie style figures were crap on a EU plate.  Jedi Armor and Mexican Bandito outfits and the like don't show up in the movies do they?  Mace Windu wears the same outfit in AOTC and ROTS, why would he change for the Clone Wars?  It smacks of doing something for coolness sake.

We'll see how these turn out, color me unimpressed so far
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Brian on March 25, 2005, 11:17 AM
Yeah, I'm actually one of very few who prefer the animated Clone Wars figures, although I do see the potential of a more "movie like" Clone Wars line, if they hadn't gotten quite so funky with the outfits.  Watching the Clone Wars animated shorts, and seeing the potential with all the different Jedi, Clones, vehicles, and battles....there really could have been quite a line for it you would think, especially if it was an ongoing series.  Anyways, not sure about these 5 packs either, hard to tell much from the pictures, but much of it looks to be rehashed.  Another idea that could be great, but probably won't be.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on March 25, 2005, 11:27 AM
I guess I'll wait for nicer pictures before I really decide anything, but here are a few initial thoughts...

1 - Given the fact that there are NO army builders in either pack - LAME.

2 - All 10 figures appear to be resculpts?   Thanks Hasbro, I was really looking for a way to get yet another Yoda, Jango, Maul, Obi-Wan, Anakin, etc etc etc. 

Too bad there isn't an OT 5-pack so we could get Cantina Han, Mechanic Chewie, Slave Leia, PotJ Ben, and CommTech Luke again too...   ::)

3 - Repitition.  Why the heck are Anakin and Obi-Wan in BOTH packs?   >:(  It's one thing to resculpt us to death on main characters, but to have BOTH of them in both of the sets?  Super LAME.

 :(

Jeff
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nicklab on March 25, 2005, 11:37 AM
I have to say that I think the Yavin IV Anakin is a welcome addition.  Not sure about the other offerings yet since the images aren't uber-clear.  We'll probably get to see these in person at Celebration 3.

Unfortunately, it looks like at least a couple of these are rehashes.  I think the Anakin in the lower image might be a rehash of the SAGA Deluxe Slashing Anakin that came with the Geonosian.  That thing was a turd on a blister if I ever saw one.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on March 25, 2005, 02:05 PM
The one figure that stood out really badly to me (in terms of a "WTF?" moment) was the Mace Windu.  Great idea, Hasbro: take the single most overproduced and underselling figure of the Saga era, which also has a garish action feature that makes it nearly impossible for it to look good holding a lightsaber, slap a new head on it (presumably; as has been said, the lighting isn't that good), and put it in a five pack as a "new figure."   ::)

I do like the fact that they are doing a Yavin IV Anakin (I can only hope that the Ventress is "damaged" as well), and I'm cautiously optimistic about the Clone Armor Obi-Wan (my fear is that it will just have the snap on pieces from the Saga/CW Deluxe Clone with Speeder Bike as its "armor"). 

More than ever I'm convinced that Hasbro is reusing their old stock that they bought back from retail for these four packs.  I mean, out of all the figures they could pick, they pick Geonosian Rescue Mace, Final Battle Jango, and Deluxe Anakin?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on March 25, 2005, 02:45 PM
It's hard to tell from the pictures, but I think I'll get the first one at least.

Yavin 4 Anakin looks promising, and I don't have the movie-style Asajj Ventress so I want this one, repack or not.  I don't feel strongly about General Gravy one way or the other, and it's hard to tell what kind of Yoda that is.

And clone-armor Obi-Wan honestly sounds too good to be true. What's the catch? Probably the armor won't come with the cape, the pieces won't snap on properly and he'll look like the Stay-Puft marshmallow man when wearing it. ::)

The second set looks like new or modified sculpts of Obi-Wan and Anakin, so we'll see how that turns out. And I don't have any Jango, believe it or not.

I think the Clone Wars movie style figures were crap on a EU plate.  Jedi Armor and Mexican Bandito outfits and the like don't show up in the movies do they?  Mace Windu wears the same outfit in AOTC and ROTS, why would he change for the Clone Wars?  It smacks of doing something for coolness sake.

True, but I don't have a problem with that. What's wrong with a change of pace from the moldy old bathrobes now and again? ;)

The one figure that stood out really badly to me (in terms of a "WTF?" moment) was the Mace Windu.  Great idea, Hasbro: take the single most overproduced and underselling figure of the Saga era, which also has a garish action feature that makes it nearly impossible for it to look good holding a lightsaber, slap a new head on it (presumably; as has been said, the lighting isn't that good), and put it in a five pack as a "new figure."   ::)

No kidding. He's still a pegwarmer at my TRU. *forces a laugh but cries a little inside*

At least they swapped the head.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on March 25, 2005, 03:09 PM
Whoa!!!!  I for one am pumped up like a Mother F-er about these!!!!  Yeah!!!

Really, I am excited about the sleeveless Anakin... and the Yoda looks very different... Mace Windu could finally get his fair treatment too... it might not be that one awful sculpt... at least I hope not.

The bottom set with the other Anakin looks like the Deluxe slashing action one though, which really sucks.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on March 25, 2005, 03:20 PM
Does anyone know what these will be packaged as--Clone Wars, Post-OTC silver-on-black, or simply ROTS?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on March 25, 2005, 03:24 PM
Clone Wars maybe for the top one... but not for the bottom one as Maul is in it...

Doesn't really matter to me though - open and enjoy.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on March 25, 2005, 03:34 PM
Now that I think about it, it will probably be in the ROTS line even though half the figures aren't even from the film (Jango, Maul, Yavin 4 Ani, Ventress, Armored Obi).

And I'll be opening 'em right up, so it doesn't matter much to me either.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Famine on March 25, 2005, 08:31 PM
Uh, shouldnt it be Asajj and Maul in the Jedi Vs. Sith?

Doy...

Kevin
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on March 26, 2005, 12:06 AM
Hmmm

just looking at the photo, blowing it up some and trying to enhance it, I see:

-Geonosian Rescue Mace Windu
-Deluxe Anakin (that came with the Geonosian)
-MOTDS Maul
-Final Duel Jango Fett (with the rem. head)
-An Obi-Wan I can't quite make out, but his legs smack of Pilot Obi-Wan

That's the bottom-row of pictures...

The top row looks like all-new figures, except Assajj. 

I don't like Anakin's pose...  Assajj will be nice to actually see available only because I only ever saw ONE of her, and dig her character.  She was a good idea.  Yoda I can't make anything out on, and Obi-Wan actually looks like just an articulated version of him, actually, which would be warmly welcomed.  If he's a nicely articulated E2 Obi-Wan with armor that pops off?  No complaints here.  Greivous just looks like the preview one to me.

To that end then, the bottom row blows, top row looks like it could be a 50/50 mix of good and "eh".

Personally, I may be in the minority but I really liked the IDEA of realistic looking Clone Wars characters.  The problem that I think arose was that Hasbro was given a gist of what was coming, but not told specifics of the toons at the time, so what got made wasn't necessarilly great.

If I saw a whole new series of realistically sculpted CW figures, but they were now based on what we know is in the toons, I'd take it.  I'd take a Mace, an Obi in armor, a Yoda (he really isn't all that different in the cartoon than in the movies), etc...  Plus I'd add in new characters like Padme, Republic ground crew, TONS of Jedi (Ithorian, Shistavanean, Sha'Gi, Ki Adi's padawan, Muftak, etc.)...  I'd gladly take new, SA ARC troopers and reissues of the Clones too, of course....

To me, the realistic sculpts are a great idea, and some of the figures were fantastic.  Assajj, ARC Trooper, Sae-Sae Tinn, Obi-Wan, Durge (Deluxe), etc. are all great figures to me...  I'd even say I like Frito Bandito Yoda for what he was...  just something different.

Mace, Anakin, and their ilk aren't too swift though.  :(  It's like they didn't get any reference material for anyone but Assajj, ARC, and Durge prior to whipping the figures themselves up.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on March 26, 2005, 12:22 AM
Pre-order yours now at EE!

SW Episode III Jedi vs. Sith Battlepack (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85663):
Jedi vs. Sith features Yoda, Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi with snap on Clone Trooper armor, Asajj Ventress and Darth Maul (subject to change).

SW Episode III Jedi vs. Separatists Battlepack (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85724):
Jedi vs. Separatists features Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Mace Windu, General Grievous and Jango Fett (subject to change).

SW Episode III Battlepack Wave 1 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85554A):
Star Wars - Episode III Revenge of the Sith 3 3/4-inch Action Figure Battlepack assortment wave 1 case. Includes 4 individually packged battlepacks: 2x Jedi vs. Sith and 2x Jedi vs. Separatists.

SW Episode III Battlepack Wave 1 Set (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85554AA):
Star Wars - Episode III Revenge of the Sith 3 3/4-inch Action Figure Battlepacks wave 1 set. Includes 2 individually packged battlepacks: 1x Jedi vs. Sith and 1x Jedi vs. Separatists.

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: JesseVader08 on March 26, 2005, 01:32 AM
Uh, shouldnt it be Asajj and Maul in the Jedi Vs. Sith?

Doy...

Kevin

Yeah, both EE and Alliance descriptions are different than the pictures.

I guess "subject to change" is particularly important here.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on March 29, 2005, 09:47 AM
Too bad there isn't an OT 5-pack so we could get Cantina Han, Mechanic Chewie, Slave Leia, PotJ Ben, and CommTech Luke again too...   ::)

Well, there IS an OT set...

(http://www.casefresh.com/starwars/hasbro/imagesbasicfiguresets/rebellionvsempire.jpg)

Looks like:
Chewie - ??
Stormtrooper - CommTech?
Vader - ??
Luke - Saga Throne Roon
Han - Saga Endor

Filled full of re-packs, but at least it's a GOOD sign that the OT won't be totally forgotten this year...  ;)

Jeff
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2005, 10:10 AM
If that's what we're gonna get for the Classics though, I sorta wish it had been.

The Death Star duel Vader and LUke?  You gotta be ******** me!?

And that Commtech Stormtrooper needs to be retired.  I'd say the same of that Chewbacca sculpt too since VOTC exists for both those figures.  The Han looks like POTJ Bespin Capture with really widely spread legs for some reason.  That's sorta goofy... 

Color me unimpressed with that.  That first set with Assajj Ventress intrigued me some but this is blech.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 29, 2005, 10:33 AM
Actually - it is that stupid quick-draw Han Solo figure. The Vader is definitely the light-saber throwing piece of garbage and the Luke is the over-head swing Luke that just like the other two - the action feature NEVER worked right.

*ugh* I almost wish they weren't even releasing this set. In fact, I almost wish they weren't releasing ANY of these sets.

The TRU sets when they first started USED to be GOOD. Imperial Forces, Bounty Hunters (for Aurra's bike), Hoth (split belly Tauntaun) -- heck for the accessory alone and some extra Jedi for dioramas the Jedi 4-pack with the detention device was pretty good and the two OTC sets Endor Ambush and Naboo Conflict were both making up for the turd of the Jabba Skiff Guard set.

I know these aren't exclusives to TRU (at least I don't think they are), but I'm getting the feeling that these battle packs are just the old TRU four-pack w/huge accessory concept except they removed the huge accessory and replaced it with a fifth figure. Unless they kit-bash a couple of the figures in each set to make them "new" - I'm going to be very tempted to pass on getting these - minimally, I'll only get one to have the packaging variant - and I normally get two of EVERYTHING
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Brian on March 29, 2005, 11:01 AM
Yikes...this could be a good idea, if executed properly, but it of course doesn't look to be the case.  It is nice to see some OT product coming this year, but they really chose poorly for the figures included in this set.  That Luke figure is terrible, the Vader isn't anything great, and that Han is one of the worst we've seen for awhile too.  I'd still really like to see a new, neutral, articulated Han Endor with Trenchcoat...but that is besides the point :).  Either way, the figure choices don't look real inspired for this set.  If they have to use rehashes, at least use good ones.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on March 29, 2005, 11:12 AM
Yikes...this could be a good idea, if executed properly, but it of course doesn't look to be the case.  It is nice to see some OT product coming this year, but they really chose poorly for the figures included in this set.  That Luke figure is terrible, the Vader isn't anything great, and that Han is one of the worst we've seen for awhile too.  I'd still really like to see a new, neutral, articulated Han Endor with Trenchcoat...but that is besides the point :).  Either way, the figure choices don't look real inspired for this set.  If they have to use rehashes, at least use good ones.

I would definitely be all for this concept if say for example each set re-packaged one or two VOTC figure and then the rest were new figures of the same calibur of VOTC. For example - you could have the OT set be:
VOTC Chewie
VOTC Stormtrooper w/Battle Damage
VOTC Darth Vader
NEW SA Jedi Luke
Retooled VOTC Han w/brown pants and cloth trenchcoat.

For the Jedi vs. Sith set you could simply include
SA Maul
SA Ventress
SA Qui-Gon
SA Obi-Wan
SA Anakin

For the Jedi vs. Separatists set you could have
SA Dooku
SA Mace Windu
Repack of ROTS Yoda
Repack of Durge on Speederbike
VOTC Boba Fett repainted to be Jango Fett

I wouldn't care if they charged $45 - $50 for these if that's how they were going to do them....
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on March 29, 2005, 11:16 AM
You got better eyes than I do.  I thought that was Bespin Capture Han, but those legs did look goofily spread apart.  You're right, that's definitely some Endor Raid Han there. 

Holy ****.  I can still get that for like $1 or $2 at KB right now.  I'm in some kind of "Are they this challenged!?" shock right now.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on March 29, 2005, 03:14 PM
Good heavens. Pass.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jim on March 29, 2005, 03:21 PM
The Chewie is the Cloud City version with a crossbow. 
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2005, 04:13 PM
Are you sure it's the SAGA Cloud City Chewbacca?  It looks more like the ROTS Chewbacca to me...

The OTC set really sucks... this is just straight up horse-sh!t.

As for retailers... sorry if I missed it, but who is going to have these?  Looks like TRU exlusives or something.

For $20, I can live with it.  Except for the OTC one... they need to really make some serious changes with that set, and here's how I would do it -

Vader - make it the VOTC version w/ removable helmet
Luke - make it the SAGA Jabba's Palace version w/ a black right hand
Chewbacca - VOTC w/ the ROTS head
Han - VOTC w/ Endor colored pants and vest
Stormtrooper - VOTC version

This would be a hot set if they just did it right!

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on April 8, 2005, 11:23 AM
Australia Toy Fair 2005 is this week and the guys at MouseDroid have got a few great pictures:

Head on over and take a look!

AUSTRALIAN TOY FAIR 2005
 (http://mousedroid.com/feature/toyfair2005/toyfair2005-hasbro.htm)

(http://mousedroid.com/feature/toyfair2005/image/hasbro24.jpg)

More pictures of Yavin 4 Anakin and the rest of the Battle Pack figures...

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Brian on April 8, 2005, 11:41 AM
Although the other two sets pictured in the background look "teh suck", part of me wants this one pack just for the Obi-Wan figure, even though it isn't overly spectacular.  ::)  They could have done a much better job with this, instead of cobbling something together.  Sadly, the OT-themed one looks really craptastic (as we have seen from the other picture a couple weeks back)...Throne Room Luke and Vader?  Yikes.
Title: Battle Pack Discussions
Post by: Jeff on April 8, 2005, 01:52 PM
Is that Obi-Wan in clone armor?  Looks like it, those Anakin also LOOK nice, but we'll see what the execution is like

Yeah, Obi-Wan with Clone Armor is in the Jedi vs. Separatist Battle Pack. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=6758.msg115052#msg115052)  And, yes, his "amor" is ugly.   :(

(http://mousedroid.com/feature/toyfair2005/image/hasbro24.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on April 8, 2005, 02:00 PM
Ughhh, there a far better choices that could've been made here...


A cool ESB theme should include:

-Stormtrooper (commtech, VOTC too expensive for Hasbro)
-Vader (the good one from OTC?)
-Han Bespin (from POTJ)
-Boba Fett (300th)
-Chewie (Saga rehit)

Nobody wants that lumber chopping Luke - give us the soft goods Jedi Luke.

I've always wanted a Bespin dinner diorama set - I know it doesn't fit into a five pack, but it would make a good $35-40 set.

Make it like the trash compactor set - two separate sets, each set has one half of the table!  Blister pack Han's rifle in mid air - that would be cool.

 :-X


Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Brian on April 8, 2005, 02:06 PM
Yeah, definitely not as cool as they could have made this.  Good point earlier that this figure should have been done (although differently) in the original Clone Wars line.  I'm just afraid this will be the only version we get now.  I personally wouldn't mind seeing this figure in the Animated Clone Wars line, but I know not everyone is overly crazy about that line too.  This does kind of just look "slapped together" though, and could have been much nicer.  I don't think the fact that they are just making "some version" of Obi in Armor is enough for me to pay for this whole set, unless it really looks better later on for some reason.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on April 8, 2005, 02:10 PM
Yeah, Obi-Wan with Clone Armor is in the Jedi vs. Separatist Battle Pack. (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=6758.msg115052#msg115052)  And, yes, his "amor" is ugly.   :(

Yeah, I'd say he looks less than spectacular there.  But at least Hasbro's showing that they've realized that there's a desire to see this figure made.  So hopefully that's a good sign that he'll eventually show up in the animated line as well, at some point in the future.

BTW, is that the exact same Asajj that we got the first time through?  She looks slightly different for some reason.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Brian on April 8, 2005, 02:15 PM
Looking at that Armored Obi-Wan pic again, that figure really does look fairly craptastic.  I mean, I would really like to see a nice version of this figure (particularly in the Animated line)...but this is basically just an old Obi-Wan figure modified with the chest plate/cape, and then they gave him the removable armor from the Clone w/Speeder bike from a couple of years ago.  At least, that is how it appears to me.  I didn't look that close at that pic the first time, but after looking again, it could have been so much nicer.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on April 8, 2005, 02:58 PM
I don't know but that Clone Wars set is interesting to me.  I like the Anakin, I don't have Asajj, and the Kenobi will do for me, Yoda is different to I believe. 

The Anakin to Vader set looks nice to me. 
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on April 8, 2005, 03:48 PM
Well I have to say that the Anakin looks great, and I really like the changes on Asajj Ventress.  I thought that was a new figure, and it is.  I like this one so much more.

As for Obi Wan... meh, that's why customizing is so fun.

 :P
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on April 8, 2005, 04:27 PM
I've got high hopes for that Evolutions pack turning out to have good SA versions of Anakin, but this has me seriously concerned:

(http://www.mousedroid.com/feature/toyfair2005/image/hasbro26.jpg)
Clone Wars Anakin

That is supposed to be Anakin? Holy God. If they use a similar headsculpt for the Evo set, my hopes are going down in a fiery blaze.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Famine on April 8, 2005, 04:30 PM
His face...how hard is it to get his likeness, especialy in a MOVIE YEAR?

Kevin
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 8, 2005, 04:58 PM
I agree that's not a great likeness... looks like a different character.  Might need to do a head swap on this one.  Looks like this one has a ball jointed head, no?

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 8, 2005, 06:32 PM
Okay, so in one pack we've got:

1.  Yavin 4 Anakin with someone's head who isn't Anakin
2.  The worst execution of a much requested figure EVER
3.  The third release of the SP Grievous in three months
4.  The Saga Padawan 2-pack Yoda
5.  A slightly repainted Asaaj Ventress

Then, later down the line we get the second pack...

1.  The biggest pegwarmer of Saga overall (Mace)
2.  The worst of the Jango Fett figures (well, second worst)
3.  Another Maul (probably the MOTDS figure)
4.  The crappy Deluxe Anakin from Saga
5.  An unidentified Obi-Wan that is more than likely a rehash

You know, they do stuff like the 12" Sidious, the ARC-170, and all the Collection 2 ROTS stuff and you think, "Maybe they've figured it out."  Then you see this kind of crap and realize they aren't even close to figuring it out.  ::)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Diddly on April 8, 2005, 06:32 PM
They couldn't have just put an Obi-Wan head on an SA Clone body? Even a regular Clone? Ugh.

Pass on everything. If it isn't a rerelease, it looks like crap.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darby on April 8, 2005, 07:23 PM
Excuse me, I have to vomit.   ::)
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Jesse James on April 8, 2005, 07:25 PM
Yeah I was thinking a headswap may be in order too.  I'm not terribly displeased with the Anakin and Obi, but if anything comes of this I now would like more realistic CW figures...

The paint on those examples is definitely hand-painted (not even very well might i add) so I wouldn't expect the final ones to look that way.  Sadly though, the hand-painted copies often look BETTER than the production samples, so that has me a tad worried that Anakin and Obi are really gonna blow when we see the final figures.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darby on April 8, 2005, 07:27 PM
The Evolutions set looks very nice.  The Battle Packs blow.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Darth Broem on April 8, 2005, 08:02 PM
Hmmm, I had not seen the close up of the face.  That CANNOT be the final product. 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on April 8, 2005, 08:18 PM
Just a quick thought (and someone with access to the poster can confirm this): is that the head of Zett Jukassa (Lucas' son) on the Anakin figure from the Battle Packs? 
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: JediMAC on April 8, 2005, 08:26 PM
is that the head of Zett Jukassa (Lucas' son) on the Anakin figure

That's what I was thinking too DP.  My posters at home, so I'll check it out when I get outta the office a little later.  Wouldn't be surprising though.  Stupid, yes.  But not surprising.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on April 8, 2005, 08:43 PM
BTW, is that the exact same Asajj that we got the first time through?  She looks slightly different for some reason.

It looks like the non-animated CW Asajj body with a softer head to more match the cartoon. It actually looks better than the one previously released, but not enough to warrant buying this set.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on April 8, 2005, 09:48 PM
You guys might be right:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jbrinkley/zett.jpg) (http://www.mousedroid.com/feature/toyfair2005/image/hasbro26.jpg)

Holy... that's one hell of a show set-up blunder by Hasbro.

But there's a few differences, like the Padawan braid.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on April 9, 2005, 04:08 AM
those two heads are different. the head on anakin has a more stretched cheekbone line than the young padawan's head. also there is a distinct difference in the hair, where the young padawan has a more squared cut. the face sculpt on that anakin sure stinks though, no where close to what anakin looked like
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on April 10, 2005, 01:53 AM
So the Clone Armored Obi-Wan is a colossal ****up just like we predicted. :'(  >:( How hard can it be ... stick an Obi-Wan head onto an SA (or even non-SA!) clone body and add a soft goods cape. In fact wouldn't that have been easier than sculpting a new cape/chestplate and the rejiggering the individual removable segments?? ::)

Anakin looks wonderful except for the head. WTF? It's hard to imagine even Hasbro could screw up the likeness ... they have a dozen previous headsculpts to fall back on, after all. It has been suggested that it's actually the head from Jett Zukassa, and somebody set up the display wrong. I really hope this is the case, because with the right head this'd be a great figure. Maybe I can do some type of headswap. I'm not a customizer, but even I should be able to figure that out.

I don't have that version of Yoda (well, except for the Holo variant), and he's OK, but his presence is not a dealbreaker one way or the other.

I passed on the SP Grievous the first time.

But I really need Asajj for my Clone Wars array. (Incidentally, it appears the legs and dress are different as well as the head.) If it weren't for her (and the faint hope of something good coming out of this Anakin) I'd pass on this set.

Probably pass on the second set unless the pictures end up looking really damn tempting.

And no way am I going anywhere near that OT set.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 10, 2005, 01:57 AM
those two heads are different. the head on anakin has a more stretched cheekbone line than the young padawan's head. also there is a distinct difference in the hair, where the young padawan has a more squared cut. the face sculpt on that anakin sure stinks though, no where close to what anakin looked like

Those could be differences in the paint applications and lighting. It's hard to tell just from two photos. It's very hard to imagine even Hasbro could screw up the likeness that badly.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: CorranHorn on April 10, 2005, 06:38 AM
no its easy to tell that these are two different heads, one needs only look at the padawan braid. on anakin its behind his ear, on the kid its in front of his ear. add to that distinct chin and cheekbone lines on each figure, that can be clearly seen and you can see these are clearly two different heads.
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: Nathan on April 10, 2005, 02:35 PM
one needs only look at the padawan braid. on anakin its behind his ear, on the kid its in front of his ear.

Aw nuts, you're right. :( There goes my last faint hope. :'(
Title: Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
Post by: SilverZ on April 10, 2005, 03:58 PM
There are certainly enough differences there to believe they are different, but there are also enough similarities to make me still question whether this is the correct Anakin head. The hair color is much, much darker than they've ever done before.

What ever happened, it looks terrible.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on April 25, 2005, 05:33 PM
So,

I thought I should point out for all you "variation" hunter guys that there is currently an error on the 5-pack box.  You can see on this picture I took that it says it includes "Stormtrooper" Armor.  Oops!  :-X

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/IMG_0628.jpg)

No idea if they will fix it or not, but it's there for now...

Also, this set looks to be the only one with new/re-worked figures in it.  the next 2 sets will be composed of total re-hash figures.  Nothing new but maybe the paint decos.   >:(

Jeff
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jim on April 25, 2005, 05:45 PM
So when are these sets coming out?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on April 25, 2005, 06:30 PM
Note that Anakin still has the ****** head--it's now official. :( It's a great fig otherwise.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on April 25, 2005, 06:38 PM
I think the Anakin head looks decent enough... but I may do a head swap or something once I get this set.

Assaj looks great - I do wish her skirt was soft goods though with articulated knees...

Obi Wan looks pretty weak, but oh well.

Grievous and Yoda = custom fodder or trade bait.

 :P

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on June 22, 2005, 10:25 PM
I thought I should point out for all you "variation" hunter guys that there is currently an error on the 5-pack box.  You can see on this picture I took at C3 that it says it includes "Stormtrooper" Armor.  Oops!  :-X

http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/Celebration_III/Hasbro/IMG_0628.jpg

No idea if they will fix it or not, but it's there for now...

Well, judging by the news on the front page and the latest infor from StarWars.com (http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/news20050622.html) (and despite the fact that JesseJames and I pointed out the error to Hasbro at C3) it doesn't look like Hasbro fixed the "stormtrooper" armor on the final product packaging...

::)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Commander JediSearch on June 22, 2005, 11:34 PM
I noticed that right away too.  How could they be such  ???'s    :-\
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Diddly on June 23, 2005, 12:02 AM
And that Clone helmet isn't even painted in that photo! How cheap!
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on June 23, 2005, 07:53 AM
I really am wondering what the final Anakin and Obi-Wan figures are going to be like. 

It's the only set I'm really interested in...  I want an extra Assajj figure for customizing (only ever saw her one time), and I'm a fan of the realistic styled Clone Wars figures as I feel the toon figures just are a separate line to the basic line...  Not my cup of tea then.  Grievous I could've done without as with Yoda, but whatever.  I guess that'll make a nice replacement to the Wheelbike figure when I pick that up, and Yoda will just be something to toss into my fodder pile.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on June 23, 2005, 03:58 PM
Frankly, I'm excited about the Jedi vs. Sith set.

It features Asaj (who I don't have) and I always fall for the removable armor gimmick.

The downside is the sculpt  on Ani....it's pretty ******.

Title: Battlepacks
Post by: Ner_vod on July 6, 2005, 02:44 PM
Did anybody see the Star Wars battlepacks? to me it's ok. I like How you can put the clone wars costume on obi wan
(http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars//85663_pk_sm.jpg[img])
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 6, 2005, 08:02 PM
Has anyone found one of these in the store yet? I've yet to see these things anywhere. I thought July was going to herald the release of the Evolutions 3-Packs, the 5-figure Battlepacks and the 500th Vader - NONE of these items has been around at all - only a handful of the Vaders.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on July 7, 2005, 01:58 AM
Frankly, I'm excited about the Jedi vs. Sith set.

It features Asaj (who I don't have) and I always fall for the removable armor gimmick.

The downside is the sculpt  on Ani....it's pretty ******.

I'm kinda digging that set too Ruiner...  Especially the Obi-Wan figure.  Not sure on the armor, but I think he looks like a decent Episode 2 Obi-Wan which is sorely missing in this line.

Assajj...  I have one, but I'd take another for customizing reasons.

Anakin is at least a CW figure realistically sculpted, which I'd like more of.  I don't care for the toon figures really.

The others I'm indifferent about.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 7, 2005, 12:11 PM
Out of all the sets, the only figure I'm remotely interested in is that Obi-Wan, and I don't even think they did a good job with it. :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth Broem on July 11, 2005, 11:45 AM
That is a cool idea.  I think many of us thought how cool that would be for the longest time.   It's just to bad that they are all rehashes.  I think many would have liked to have seen a new Zuckuss and 4-LOM. 

Rebelscum (through another site) had just recently mentioned rumors of other battle packs as well. 

1) Hoth Themed - Veers, Probot, and 3 snowtroopers.

2) Jedi Tempe Raid - Anakin (#2), Clone Pilot, and 3 of the blue Clonetroopers.  Why they would put a Clone Pilot in that set is beyond me? 

They did say it was just a rumor though.  So, who knows?  Find out at the SDCC I suppose.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nicklab on July 11, 2005, 11:49 AM
That is a cool idea.  I think many of us thought how cool that would be for the longest time.   It's just to bad that they are all rehashes.  I think many would have liked to have seen a new Zuckuss and 4-LOM. 

Rebelscum (through another site) had just recently mentioned rumors of other battle packs as well. 

1) Hoth Themed - Veers, Probot, and 3 snowtroopers.

2) Jedi Tempe Raid - Anakin (#2), Clone Pilot, and 3 of the blue Clonetroopers.  Why they would put a Clone Pilot in that set is beyond me? 

They did say it was just a rumor though.  So, who knows?  Find out at the SDCC I suppose.

Real deal.  I was holding back on this story, but it got out through a friend of mine at JTA.  Curto glommed off of that.  I reported the whole thing  here (http://www.thejawa.com/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1405).  Images to follow.  SOON.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Diddly on July 11, 2005, 01:45 PM
Definately getting the Temple Raid set, not so sure about the other two. I'm guessing these will be expensive.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on July 11, 2005, 03:51 PM
RE:
1) Hoth Themed - Veers, Probot, and 3 snowtroopers.

2) Jedi Tempe Raid - Anakin (#2), Clone Pilot, and 3 of the blue Clonetroopers


Hmmm... this worries me.  I find it hard to believe that Hasbro would finally start to give us "Army Builder" packs at retail, but then again it does make sense they would screw them up by including Anakin #2 and Clone Pilot.   :P

I guess I'll hold my judgement on the new rumored 5-packs until we (possibly) get confirmation at SDCC.

Jeff
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 11, 2005, 04:06 PM
From what I've heard so far, the Veers is the same figure issued with the AT AT (nice job there, Hasbro  ::)) and the snowies are POTF2.   The blue 501st troops are quick draw attack clones, which is okay, but I probably would have slightly preferred #41.  As for the clone pilot pack in with the Temple Raid, wha?  Why?

Overall, sounds not so stellar.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 11, 2005, 05:14 PM
Wow, that Hoth set is going to flop.  Everyone is going to want the Temple Raid set, but I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that Hasbro will ship the Hoth set first.   ::)

Seriously, who comes up with the figures to include in these sets?  Do they just sit around and look at all the figures they have had to take back over they years and say, "Let's do a themed set around the Rancor Keeper!"

I can see it now, coming Spring 2006...

"BATTLE AT JABBA'S PALACE!  Recreate the awesome action of this awesome sequence from Episode VI: Return of the Jedi!  Includes Luke Skywalker*, the Rancor Keeper**, Gammorean Guard***, Bib Fortuna****, and Jawa*****!  Available this spring at retailers everywhere!  And be on the lookout for the UTAPAU INVASION set a few months later, featuring all new exclusive sculpts of Commander Cody, a Clone Medic, a Clone Trooper, a multi-articulated Grievous' Bodyguard, and two Utai aliens!"

*This would be the POTF2 version or, if we were "lucky" the one that came with the Rancor
**, ***, **** These would all be POTF2 versions made with cheaper plastic
***** This would be the Jawa from the Ronto beast set

Thank you very much for the info, though, Nick, as it is very appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: dafoo on July 11, 2005, 05:57 PM
Hey, I kinda like the Hoth set idea!

They need to do a Temple set of Jedi to be slaughtered too
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 11, 2005, 06:48 PM
Okay, here's the rub-  Remember how easy it was to get Eopie?

These sets are numbers 4 and 5. What happens when the first three sets don't sell well? It's the same thing over and over again. The Hoth and Jedi Tempel set have the potential of selling well, but they come after lame sets like the Jedi Vs sith and Rebels Vs Empire packs.  :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth Broem on July 11, 2005, 07:06 PM
Yep, you can just bet Hasbro will put the Hoth set out first and the stores won't order much of the Temple Raid set like someone said above.  I hope not though.   Maybe for some reason we'll get lucky and they will send out the Temple Raid one first.   

Why not just put Zett Jukassa in the Temple Raid set?  Or make a Cin Dralig and stuff him in there?  Oh well.  I will still get the temple set because of the blue troopers. 

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Ben on July 11, 2005, 09:00 PM
I just found the Jedi vs. Sith Battle Pack at K-Mart tonight. $21.99 plus Iowa's share.

I haven't opened it yet, but as soon as I do and my camera is recharged, I'll get a pic or two up.  :)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: evenflow on July 12, 2005, 10:05 AM
Cool, i hope to find that set its the only Battle pack i want.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on July 12, 2005, 01:46 PM
And therein lies the problem.

Nobody wants the OT set.  Everyone will be clamouring for the Jedi vs. Sith set (for Assaj and Obi-Wan).

The packs are great ideas - but the turds will warm the shelves and stores will not reorder because nothing is scanning out at the register.

The Hoth set and the OT set (name ?) will sit. 

Obviously the Temple Raid set will fly (if it even makes it to the shelf).
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: dafoo on July 12, 2005, 04:35 PM
I like the HOTH one
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on July 12, 2005, 04:45 PM
Unreal... why are they so stupid?  Why pack in any POTF2 Snowtroopers at all?  Why not something a little more intelligent, like two SAGA Snowtroopers and an AT-AT driver?

The Temple set rocks, but I wish it didn't come with a Clone Pilot.

I'll stay away from the other OT set, but might pick up one of the Hoth ones.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 12, 2005, 05:14 PM
As expected, here's my cynical and pessimistic prediction:

1.  Battle Pack 1 ships to retail in a case by itself.  These sell moderately well, and retailers reorder the next case in twice the amount they ordered the first.

2.  Battle Packs 2 and 3 ship to retail in a case that also includes another Battle Pack 1.  After initial sales to carded/boxed completists, the Battle Packs begin to sit.

3.  Battle Pack 4 (the Hoth pack) ships to retail in a case that also includes more of Battle Pack 3 (the OT one, which will be the worst selling one of the initial three, IMO), and due to the lackluster figure selection of the Hoth set, and the increasing glut of the OT set, the fourth case assortment never makes it to retail.

4.  Hasbro cancels the fifth Battle Pack (the one that everyone wants out of the five anyway; once again, Hasbro wastes the best for last) citing lack of retail support and/or collector interest, and three years from now, they finally release the 501st Clone as a single carded figure in the regular action figure line.

I hope that doesn't happen, but I'm not going to touch the first four Battle Packs with a ten foot pole (damn you Lisa and your restraining order!  I shall burn an effigy of you with the school bullies!), and the fifth is the only one that I'm at all interested in.  Naturally, it will be the most difficult to find of them all.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Omega Squad Commander on July 12, 2005, 05:22 PM
Hey I read somewhere that the Temple and the Hoth Pack will be exclusive to Toys "R" Us. I can't recall where but I'll do my assigment and post the link here. And if nobody notice the Snowtrooper with the e-web repeating blaster is SAGA not POTF2.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: vegastrooper on July 12, 2005, 05:32 PM
The temple 5 pack will get my money...3 501st clones, nice!  Should have been 4 of them though...what's with the clone pilot being thrown in, anyway?  The hoth 5 pack is a thumbs down...I can pass that one up to get an extra temple pack!  
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Omega Squad Commander on July 12, 2005, 06:00 PM
Hey I read somewhere that the Temple and the Hoth Pack will be exclusive to Toys "R" Us. I can't recall where but I'll do my assigment and post the link here. And if nobody notice the Snowtrooper with the e-web repeating blaster is SAGA not POTF2.

Ok my mind play tricks to me, but this was what I read from that other s[/i]ite (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=93465)....

Quote
Clone Troopers Coming To Toys "R" Us
Posted by Curto on June 27, 2005:
    We've gotten early word that an army of Clone Troopers will descend upon Toys "R" Us stores this holiday season, by way of a trio of exclusive 3-pack sets.
  • Search For Yoda includes 3 red-colored Clone Troopers (aka Shock Troopers)
  • Jedi Temple Raid includes 3 blue-colored Clone Troopers (aka 501st Legion)
  • Attack On Utapau includes 3 orange-colored Clone Troopers
    These will most likely be repaints of the Deluxe Clone Troopers sets, although this is not confirmed at this time.

    Stay tuned for more details as they are revealed!
[/size]
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Omega Squad Commander on July 12, 2005, 06:02 PM
Hasbro can only dream of making something this good:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/masterfett/GeneralMaximillianVeers.jpg)
Pic hosted by MasterFett on RS, custom by darklord.

By the way, did somebody know something about DarkLord I don't see a post of him in months.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: speedermike on July 12, 2005, 07:00 PM
Maybe I should start spending my money on customs!  That Veers is super-super cool!

The Hasbro sets are crummy.  But I think that the first three will sell well to parents and kids.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Rob on July 12, 2005, 08:35 PM
Meh... more repacks.

I'll pass.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: dafoo on July 12, 2005, 08:43 PM
If the packs have those crummy statue clones, I'm gonna scream
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Diddly on July 12, 2005, 11:46 PM
Anybody notice that crappy Rebel vs. Empire set? It looked to have SAGA Endor Han, Throne Room Vader and Luke, Cloud City Chewie, and Commtech Stormie. Definate pass.

Well I'm passing on the Hoth set (why do the OT sets suck so much?), definately getting the Temple set. I'll get the Jedi vs/ Sith one if I see it.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2005, 12:51 AM
I want the Jedi Vs. Sith set and the 501st sets...  They're nice enough.

Those other ones though...  Blech.  It's a shame that sets that are aimed at keeping people's attention who otherwise would quit the hobby (or grabbing the attention of prospective new customers) have that one hook for the die-hards (the 501st set) which of course comes towards the tail-end of the line when things often have a chance of being tougher to find.

It would be the set people want the most of too, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Rob on July 13, 2005, 01:33 AM
Swap those 501st clones out for Super Articulated Clones, and make it 4 of those and an Anakin, but a nice one, with a removable hood, and I'd buy a few dozen of them.

As it stands - I'm completely uninterested in the Jedi Assault set and will patiently wait for an SA 501st clone taht I can army build sometime down the road...
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 13, 2005, 09:55 AM
Jedi Temple - I'll buy - ... but I don't remember seeing any Clone Pilots back at the temple... I wish all 5 of the figures were clones.

Hoth - Won't buy - ... because POTF2 is junk...

Jedi/Sith - Won't buy - The only thing I wanted from this pack was a decent Obi-Wan with Clone Armor, and they didn't deliver. So, no buy.

Rebel/Empire - Won't buy - I guess its a good way to get the main OT people out on shelves, though...

Search for Yoda - I'll buy - Sounds like a good set already...

Utapau - Undecided - I am willing to bet that Hasbro packs in the same damn Preview Grievous and the first Obi-Wan with 3 repaint clones.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: dafoo on July 13, 2005, 12:47 PM
Depressing this is...
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 13, 2005, 01:28 PM
As expected, here's my cynical and pessimistic prediction:

1.  Battle Pack 1 ships to retail in a case by itself.  These sell moderately well, and retailers reorder the next case in twice the amount they ordered the first.

2.  Battle Packs 2 and 3 ship to retail in a case that also includes another Battle Pack 1.  After initial sales to carded/boxed completists, the Battle Packs begin to sit.

3.  Battle Pack 4 (the Hoth pack) ships to retail in a case that also includes more of Battle Pack 3 (the OT one, which will be the worst selling one of the initial three, IMO), and due to the lackluster figure selection of the Hoth set, and the increasing glut of the OT set, the fourth case assortment never makes it to retail.

4.  Hasbro cancels the fifth Battle Pack (the one that everyone wants out of the five anyway; once again, Hasbro wastes the best for last) citing lack of retail support and/or collector interest, and three years from now, they finally release the 501st Clone as a single carded figure in the regular action figure line.

I hope that doesn't happen, but I'm not going to touch the first four Battle Packs with a ten foot pole (damn you Lisa and your restraining order!  I shall burn an effigy of you with the school bullies!), and the fifth is the only one that I'm at all interested in.  Naturally, it will be the most difficult to find of them all.

This sums the whole battle pack line up in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2005, 02:10 PM
How about an imperial Throne Room set:

From GH:

"Imperial Throne Room featuring:
          Two Emperor's Royal Guards (2003 Saga versions)
          Emperor Palpatine (2003 Saga version)
          Stormtrooper (Commtech version)
          and Imperial Dignitary Kren Blista-Vanee"

Yes, yes, more details and pictures will surface this week at SDCC!

Jeff
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on July 13, 2005, 02:11 PM
Jedi Temple - I'll buy - ... but I don't remember seeing any Clone Pilots back at the temple... I wish all 5 of the figures were clones.

Hoth - Won't buy - ... because POTF2 is junk...

Jedi/Sith - Won't buy - The only thing I wanted from this pack was a decent Obi-Wan with Clone Armor, and they didn't deliver. So, no buy.

Rebel/Empire - Won't buy - I guess its a good way to get the main OT people out on shelves, though...

Search for Yoda - I'll buy - Sounds like a good set already...

Utapau - Undecided - I am willing to bet that Hasbro packs in the same damn Preview Grievous and the first Obi-Wan with 3 repaint clones.

The Search for Yoda set is just the three static clone troopers from the deluxe 3 packs - painted red.

The Utopia set is the same thing as the Yoda set....but lemon flavor.

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on July 13, 2005, 02:15 PM
How about an imperial Throne Room set:

From GH:

"Imperial Throne Room featuring:
          Two Emperor's Royal Guards (2003 Saga versions)
          Emperor Palpatine (2003 Saga version)
          Stormtrooper (Commtech version)
          and Imperial Dignitary Kren Blista-Vanee"

Yes, yes, more details and pictures will surface this week at SDCC!

Jeff



Are they kidding!!??

Nobody wants the Saga royal guards, commtech stormie or that Dignitary guy (clearance fodder 2 years ago)!

Jesus, if you're going to repack figures - at least give us the "in-demand" ones!

ROTS guards and VOTC stormies would've been okay in my book.

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Brian on July 13, 2005, 02:21 PM
I think ruiner is exactly right.  If they insist on doing these "Battle Packs", at least put a little more effort into them.  If they are going to use repacks, they could have done us (and themselves) a favor and in this situation used the VOTC Stormtroopers and ROTS Royal Guards and it would have sold quite well.  Once again, it seems so simple...and yet.....;).
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Diddly on July 13, 2005, 02:24 PM
I may get that Throne Room one since I have none of those figures. Sadly, that's still the best OT set we've gotten so far. :-\

I'm still waiting for the Battle pack with Commtech Han. I know Hasbro still has MILLIONS of those lying around! ::)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2005, 02:26 PM
I may get that Throne Room one since I have none of those figures. Sadly, that's still the best OT set we've gotten so far. :-\

I'm still waiting for the Battle pack with Commtech Han. I know Hasbro still has MILLIONS of those lying around! ::)

Yeah, we need a set with the "classics":

Heroes of the Rebellion:
Cantina Han, Mechanic Chewie, Slave Leia, PotJ Ben, and CommTech Luke

We haven't seen those figures for a whole year! :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on July 13, 2005, 02:36 PM
In the casual collector's defense (or kids), I'm sure it's nice to walk into WallyWorld and find an OT set that has classic characters in it.

I mean really, it's the only way to find them (outside of ebay).

But we all know that the hard core collectors keep this license alive - that's why they should rethink the Unleashed decision....and listen to the uproar that has erupted over that one.

 8)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 13, 2005, 03:31 PM
"Imperial Throne Room featuring:
          Two Emperor's Royal Guards (2003 Saga versions)
          Emperor Palpatine (2003 Saga version)
          Stormtrooper (Commtech version)
          and Imperial Dignitary Kren Blista-Vanee"

*weeps* Great idea, bad execution--seemingly Hasbro's mantra in recent times.

2003 Royal Guard? Are they out of their mind? ROTS red--hello? Anybody home?

2003 Palp -- booo!

Commtech Stormie ... meh. VOTC would be better.

Kren Blista-Vanee -- good choice actually. I like this guy. But then, I like all the politician-type figures.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 13, 2005, 03:53 PM
I still think my themed Battle Pack based on the Rancor Keeper is the worst idea they could possibly come up with, but they're doing a fine job of crapping things up with these BPs by themselves it seems.

Hey, let's get even more boring!

-HEROES OF THE REBELLION: OTC Madine, ROTS Mon Mothma, POTF2 Admiral Ackbar, POTF2 Prune Face, and POTF2 Nien Nunb!

-VILLAINS OF THE EMPIRE: Saga Battle Droid (of course it doesn't make sense to us, but it makes perfect sense to Hasbro and the children!), POTF2 Death Star Trooper, POTF2 Sandtrooper, POTF2 Biker Scout (the one from the bike), and POTF2 AT-ST Driver!

-THE MOST POPULAR FIGURES OF ALL TIME: Ach-Med Beq, Ric Olie, the Rancor Keeper, Arena Padme, and the Neimoidian Warrior return!  Sure to fly off shelves (and be kicked across the floor for years to come at KayBee)!

I'm sure, however, that Hasbro will say they can't do any vehicles because "even though we (Hasbro) want to do them, retail just isn't interested."  THAT'S BECAUSE YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE ALL THIS BOXED **** THAT NOBODY WANTS AND RETAIL GETS STUCK WITH IT AND DOESN'T WANT YOU TO BURN THEM WITH SW CRAP FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME!   >:(
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on July 13, 2005, 04:10 PM
DP - thanks for the laugh - I needed it.

But your Heroes of the Rebellion set needs to be tweaked - replace Mon Mothma with Monkey Leia and Madine with Super Buff Lando.

Madine and Mon are too nice of figures to include in the set!

We should have a contest to see who can mock up the worst best Battle Pack.  Images required.

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: dafoo on July 13, 2005, 04:23 PM
At least it isn't the POTF2 Royal Guards (stumpies)  Saga HAS to be better than that, unless it is a repack...I don't know.

Does our battle pack have to have a scene theme? It shouldn't Hasbro's don't even make sense.

5 Pack: (The Beloved Droids)
-Monkey Face Leia (just cuz)
-R5-D4
-Gonk Droid
-EV-9D9
-R2-D2 (Launching Lightsaber)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on July 13, 2005, 04:27 PM
OK, here's mine - can you guess the theme?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/somber77/BarPatronsBattleSet.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: dafoo on July 13, 2005, 04:32 PM
Useless poses!

and my collection is better
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jayson on July 13, 2005, 04:37 PM
OK, here's mine - can you guess the theme?


All were in a bar during some film so… this could be the Alcohol Anonymous Meeting
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 13, 2005, 04:52 PM
At least it isn't the POTF2 Royal Guards (stumpies) Saga HAS to be better than that, unless it is a repack...I don't know.

I disagree. I actually prefer the POTF2 version. They're essentially statues, but they look great when they're just standing there--which is all they ever do in the films when you get right down to it:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/potf2/POTF2ergloose.jpg)

The Saga one (actually 2002 not 3) has an odd leaning pose and the way the arms "jump out" so much just looks funny to me:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/saga-royalguard_front.jpg)

So if they had to use an old mold I'd rather it was POTF2. But for play value (the whole point, right? *wink, wink*) there isn't much reason to use either one now that the softgoods ROTS version is here:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS/rots0523royalguardRready.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: dafoo on July 13, 2005, 05:00 PM
OH geez Saga IS worse than POTF2!  how is that even able to happen?!

I want the ROTS one though.

Heh, signing up on this forum site is making me sad and happy all time.  Wishing I still had the cash for this and then glad I don't
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 13, 2005, 05:18 PM
OH geez Saga IS worse than POTF2! how is that even able to happen?!

Literally LOL! ;D
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2005, 11:03 PM
So, it appears that from the little signs next to the 5-packs at SDCC that most of these rehash sets will now be TRU exclusives...

Good news in that these re-pack monsters won't clog the shelves at Target (where I do most of my shopping  ;)).

Jeff
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 13, 2005, 11:10 PM
Is that the case with the Jedi Temple Raid Set? I really hope that it's not, I'm probably going to want to pick up two of those to open and throw away the Anakins. Easy way to build a 501st Legion w/o having to buy the #41 repaint six times.

I have never had a problem getting a TRU exclusive so these will be shipped in good numbers and will be around for a while 'cause TRU never puts anything on clearance.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 13, 2005, 11:16 PM
Well, the 501st Clone being "available" as a regular carded figure has pretty much kept me from even wasting time or money on the Temple Raid BP, so I guess I can completely wash my hands of this line as well.  With the way today has gone, I'll take a small bit of good news when I can get it.

One question though (and this may be one of the things that Hasbro is holding on to as a "surprise"; you know, as opposed to the "Surprise, the line is ******!" way today has gone): what happened to the rumored Coruscant Clone set with the gray shoulder pads?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 14, 2005, 02:08 AM
So, it appears that from the little signs next to the 5-packs at SDCC that most of these rehash sets will now be TRU exclusives...

Good news in that these re-pack monsters won't clog the shelves at Target (where I do most of my shopping  ;)).

Jeff

Hmmm. Considering all those TRU 4-packs, I guess it makes sense.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 14, 2005, 02:13 AM
Not sure if anybody's noticed this before, and too lazy to reread and check, but it seems the Chewie in the Rebels/Empire set is the ROTS "squeeze my leg" version: click here (http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery/events/comic-con_international_(2005)/hasbro/battle_packs/IMG_5049.jpg).


EDIT: fixed link
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 14, 2005, 12:54 PM
Good eye there! The Chewie in the OT set is indeed the ROTS version of the Character.

Also - I was looking at the pics over on Rebelscum and it appears that the Jedi Temple Raid pack is an exclusive but I can't tell to whom. The last line of the card reads "Avail: NOW  Exclusive: ????" and I can't read what retailer is listed after "Exclusive:"
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Omega Squad Commander on July 14, 2005, 01:27 PM
Do you can hotlink the pic?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 14, 2005, 01:30 PM
Jedi Temple Assault pic from RebelScum (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc05/hasbro/image62.asp)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on July 14, 2005, 01:37 PM
Jedi Temple Assault pic from RebelScum (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc05/hasbro/image62.asp)

Sweet jeebus!  It looks to these eyes like it says... K-Mart?!?   :o

Can that be right?   :-\
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Mikey D on July 14, 2005, 01:38 PM
Also - I was looking at the pics over on Rebelscum and it appears that the Jedi Temple Raid pack is an exclusive but I can't tell to whom. The last line of the card reads "Avail: NOW  Exclusive: ????" and I can't read what retailer is listed after "Exclusive:"

Looks like K-Mart to me, which if true, sucks ass.  I know of one K-mart even remotely near me (Although with the 501st SA single pack coming, I might skip this pack)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 14, 2005, 01:38 PM
Quote
The last line of the card reads "Avail: NOW  Exclusive: Huh?" and I can't read what retailer is listed after "Exclusive:"

It looks like it could either be one of two things from that other site's photograph:

K-Mart or S-Mart.  So, it's either going to be a Blue Light Special that is stocked in the food section for unknown reasons, or it will require fighting off the undead with a chainsaw to obtain.   ;D
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 14, 2005, 01:40 PM
Yeah - that's what I thought it said too - but I wasn't sure.

Interesting thing is that all of my local KMarts have MADE shelf space for the Evolutions and Battlepack sets even though there's no product to fill them. So they are obviously behind the product line.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on July 14, 2005, 01:40 PM
I think you're right Jeff - looks like K-Mart to me too.

When will the madness end?

It's a madhouse....A MADHOUUUUUUSE!!!!

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DSJ™ on July 14, 2005, 01:46 PM
Sweet jeebus!  It looks to these eyes like it says... K-Mart?!?   :o

Can that be right?   :-\

Yep, your right!  :-*

K-Mart Exclusive (http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/showphoto.php?photo=13310&cat=4012)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Diddly on July 14, 2005, 02:30 PM
K-Mart? I call bull****. That ******* retail chain has closed up shop around here, and that set is my backup way of getting 501st Clones. >:(
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on July 14, 2005, 02:50 PM
That and they charge more, but I digress.  IF I find it, I'll gladly pay the extra $2.


Say, does anyone have a picture of that Hoth Set with the old commander on the back panel?  If so, I'd love to see it!

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 14, 2005, 03:12 PM
http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery/events/comic-con_international_(2005)/hasbro/battle_packs/IMG_0051.JPG

http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery/events/comic-con_international_(2005)/hasbro/battle_packs/IMG_0052.JPG

http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery/events/comic-con_international_(2005)/hasbro/battle_packs/IMG_0053.JPG
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on July 14, 2005, 09:14 PM
K-Mart had the OTC Cantina sets...  Don't forget guys.

They've actually made a semi-nice rebound from their bankruptcy I heard...  I know KM's a big chain in my area yet as we still have WM's and Targets relatively spread out.  I have 2 KM's within 15 minutes whereas the nearest WM to me is 20 - 25 minutes.  KM still rules in some areas.

The good news, as I see it, is that the Cantina sets were abundant.  Hoping that battlepack will be too, as will Evolutions.  And hopefully competitively priced...  Their basic figs are outrageous, but they've still sold (KM was the first retailer to really break the 4/2 streetdate too).  Their vehicles tend to be a little closer to other store's prices.  Hoping these sets will be similarly priced then.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Rob on July 14, 2005, 09:44 PM
Jedi Temple Assault pic from RebelScum (http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc05/hasbro/image62.asp)

Sweet jeebus!  It looks to these eyes like it says... K-Mart?!?   :o

Can that be right?   :-\

So much for that, I don't have a Kmart within 100 miles.  Even though I didn't particularly want that set, I'd probably have bought 1.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Famine on July 14, 2005, 10:01 PM
K-Mart 300 yards from Wal*Mart.

I like it.

Kevin
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: dafoo on July 14, 2005, 10:04 PM
Wow I like that Evolutions Clone to Sandtrooper set
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 15, 2005, 01:49 AM
Duuuuuuuuuude! I just came up with a kickass Battle Pack idea:

Tusken Camp Massacre!

--Campfire and hut

--Tusken female with child -- most likely a repack from 2002 Saga

--2x Tusken warriors -- new versions would be ideal of course, although if they went the repacking route my choice would be the 2003 Camp Ambush figure since he's a better sculpt and the POTJ Sniper has already been repacked with the massiff and in OTC.

--Some sort of Anakin -- maybe the Saga Tusken Camp version with softgoods robe, or something a little more film accurate. I'm not too picky on this part since Anakins are a dime a dozen.

--possibly include a repacked massiff

Since AOTC I've wanted a set like this. For a while a Cinema Scene seemed like the only route, but this concept would be pretty useless for a 3-figure set, and the Cinema Scenes are dead now anyways. But it just dawned on me that the Battle Packs are a PERFECT platform for this. I'd probably even buy multiples to get the huts and fires.

Thoughts? Too bloodthirsty for a "kid's toy"? If so, downplay the massacre aspect and simply call it a Tusken Village or something?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 15, 2005, 02:37 AM
I tottaly missed the K-Mart notes, but my friend saw it and kept trying to tell me that they were K-Mart exclusives. Even then I had a hard time believing.

The way I see it, it's good news/bad news. The good news is, you're right, these should be abundant. The bad news is, these should be abundant, meaning that as each set sits, it jeoperdizes the next set from comming out. :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on July 15, 2005, 02:48 AM
Is KM the only one getting the 5-packs though?  It seemed like they may only be getting the one...  The 501st one, which people would want in abundance.  The others were TRU's I thought?  I could be wrong, I'm sorta overloaded mentally right now and SW stuff's leaking out I think.

If tha'ts the case though, the 501st one SHOULD be abundant and not jeopardize other sets...  Even though they blow.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 15, 2005, 03:04 AM
One of 'em I know for sure was a TRU exclusive, possibly the Hoth set. But I'm not keeping track too well at this point either....
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on July 15, 2005, 09:48 AM
Is KM the only one getting the 5-packs though?  It seemed like they may only be getting the one...  The 501st one, which people would want in abundance.  The others were TRU's I thought?

I think the first 3 are still expected everywhere:
Rebels vs. Empire
Jedi vs. Separatists
Jedi vs. Sith

Then, the next 3 are exclusives:
TRU = Hoth Battle
K-Mart = Jedi Temple Raid
? = Emperors Throne Room

Still trying to get that confirmed at this point though...

Jeff
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Brian on July 15, 2005, 10:02 AM
I was kind of surprised to see K-Mart get the 501st exclusive.  It would probably be a bigger deal (upset more people) if we didn't have a single carded 501st on the way.  I know I'd be more upset.  We don't have any K-Marts in town anymore (closed up), and the closest one would be a 45-60 minute drive...which isn't quite worth it to me.  I'm glad to see that we're getting a single carded clone, which makes this set less necessary, but who knows if that will be any easier to get a hold of ;).
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on July 15, 2005, 03:49 PM
A guy in the St. Louis area just reported as to finding the Jedi v. Sith set at a Walmart...

http://www.coreplanets.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=43562&Main=43549#Post43562

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Kill_Solo on July 15, 2005, 05:00 PM
He just corrected himself and said it was Kmart.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on July 15, 2005, 05:10 PM
Ah, I saw that too.  Sorry guys.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jim on July 15, 2005, 05:13 PM
My local K-Mart had tons of the Sith pack today.  Also a bunch of the Anakin Evolutions.  Bought both and am happy with both sets.  I apparently missed the Jedi Raid set according the the stock person ???  I thought that was hitting later.  She said another set was stocked this AM (supposedly the Raid set) but it may of been one of the other sets.   They are straight cases of each set.  $21.99 each.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on July 15, 2005, 05:59 PM
Cool, cool, cool!  Go Kmart!

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: darkksith on July 15, 2005, 06:02 PM
My local K-Mart had tons of the Sith pack today.  Also a bunch of the Anakin Evolutions.  Bought both and am happy with both sets.  I apparently missed the Jedi Raid set according the the stock person ???  I thought that was hitting later.  She said another set was stocked this AM (supposedly the Raid set) but it may of been one of the other sets.   They are straight cases of each set.  $21.99 each.

just curious, about how many total of each set do you think there was on the shelves? at my local k-mart i only ran across one case of the anakin evolutions. thanks.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jim on July 15, 2005, 06:17 PM
My local K-Mart had tons of the Sith pack today.  Also a bunch of the Anakin Evolutions.  Bought both and am happy with both sets.  I apparently missed the Jedi Raid set according the the stock person ???  I thought that was hitting later.  She said another set was stocked this AM (supposedly the Raid set) but it may of been one of the other sets.   They are straight cases of each set.  $21.99 each.

just curious, about how many total of each set do you think there was on the shelves? at my local k-mart i only ran across one case of the anakin evolutions. thanks.

I counted 7 of the Jedi vs Sith.  The woman stocking did not mention how many of the other pack there were.  I still think the other set was the Jedi vs Seperatists, but strange they were all gone.  So it kind of makes sense the other set was the Temple Raid.  I forgot to mention that the sticker on the shelf did say Jedi Temple. Does anyone know if these were suppose to be out now?

Also, the Stormtrooper Armor still appears on the package, so it looks like the same as the original mockup.  The Asajj and Anakin look like new sculpts all the way around.  The likeness of Anakin looks like what he may of looked like between the ages of EP1 and 2, but unfortuneately he has his robotic arm ???.  The Obi-Wan is a retooled EP3 fig.  Yoda and Grievous may have a bit of different paint aps but I have to compare. 
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: evenflow on July 15, 2005, 08:38 PM
At first i was a little upset that Kmart was getting the Clone set, but since its being released as a solo figure, i am not worrying anymore. I did find the cantina set easily there though.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on July 15, 2005, 09:10 PM
Got the Jedi vs. Sith set today...

Yoda - useless pack-in to me, but oh well

Grievous - I think that Dooku or Durge would be a better, but oh well

Obi Wan - new sculpt, and a bad one at that... the armor doesn't snap on well at all, and looks pretty weak when it does... his head also looks too wide

Ventress - great addition to this set, much better than the previous version, her face is so evil and the skirt is better... her boobs look bigger too

Anakin - the prize of the set for me... I love this figure... good articulation/sculpt and all that... right leg won't move too well, and I saw someone post somewhere that theirs snapped off so I'll leave that leg alone

Overall, worth picking up to me for the Ventress and Anakin.  The other three figures are turds in my opinion, but the kids might like this set.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Morgbug on July 15, 2005, 10:59 PM
I saw it the other day and opted out of buying it.  Is that Yoda the same as one of the ROTS figs?  I haven't bought any yet to compare. 

Clearly the Obi and Anakin were different enough, but I didn't feel I needed more of them. 

The whole reason for wanting it was the armor, but then I thought nah, why bother.  Hasbro will just let me buy this POS then resculpt it (honestly, how hard is it to slap an Obi head on a clone figure?) and sell it singly.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 15, 2005, 11:35 PM
I think it was determined earlier that it's Yoda from the Saga Yoda & Chian pack, the same mold used for the Holo Yoda.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on July 15, 2005, 11:46 PM
Holy Crap! 

I'm digging that Target 5-pack of Clones!

(http://www.jedidefender.com//news/images/cc05dump/DSC08865.jpg)

Now THAT is what these 5-packs should be, FIVE pure army builders for a good price! 
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 16, 2005, 12:07 AM
For someone with more knowledge of this than me, or who was actually there to see this thing in PowerPoint clarity, what is that totally white figure in the middle of the "front" of the packaging?  I can make out Bacara, but it looks like there are two of the same "yellow" Clones there, with a 501st Clone, and this white thing in the middle.

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 16, 2005, 12:11 AM
Groovy, yet also somewhat nonsensical in execution. What an odd mix of different legions. What's more, the assortment on the back doesn't match the front.

I second the good Doctor's question: can somebody who saw this firsthand tell us exactly what we have here?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: JesseVader08 on July 16, 2005, 02:25 AM
I need your guys' sharp eyes to help me out.

I'm trying to clarify which figures are new and which are repacks/repaints (and from where).

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/dsfd.jpg)

Jedi vs Sith

Anakin - new?
Asajj - new?
Grievous - ROTS Sneak Preview
Obi-Wan - new?
Yoda - SAGA 03-15 Yoda & Chian



(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/qwre.jpg)

Jedi vs Separatists

Anakin - SAGA 02-22 Hangar Duel?
Obi-Wan - SAGA 03-01 Acklay Battle?
Jango - SAGA 02-31 Final Battle
Mace - SAGA 03-02 Arena Confrontation or kitbash?
Maul - SAGA 03-25 Theed Hangar Duel



(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08457.jpg)

Rebellion vs Empire

Chewie - ROTS III-5
Han - SAGA 02-37 Endor Raid
Luke - SAGA 03-17 Throne Room Duel
Stomtrooper - POTF2 CT?
Vader - SAGA 03-18 Throne Room Duel



I'm pretty sure of the three newer Battle Packs, since there's a lot of information floating around right now.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08391.jpg)

Assault on Hoth - Toys R Us Exclusive

General Veers - POTF2 AT-AT pack-in
2 Snowtroopers - POTF2
Snowtrooper w/ E-WEB - SAGA 03-19 Battle of Hoth
Probot - POTF2 Deluxe



(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/ssss.jpg)

Jedi Temple Assault - K-Mart Exclusive

Anakin - ROTS III-2
3 Blue Troopers (501st) - ROTS III-6 repaints
Clone Pilot - III-34



And no pics exist of this one yet, to my knowledge:

Emperor's Throne Room

Emperor - SAGA 03-30 Throne Room
2 Royal Guards - SAGA 02-19 Coruscant Security
Stormtrooper - POTF2 CT
Imperial Dignitary Kren Blista-Vanee - SAGA 03-41 Death Star Procession
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nathan on July 16, 2005, 02:47 AM
Jedi vs. Sith

Anakin is new
Asajj is fairly different from the basic CW version, so I say new or at least kitbash

Jedi vs. Separatists

Mace - Saga 02-28 Geonosian Rescue (a.k.a. Constipated Berserker Mace) with different head
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on July 16, 2005, 11:58 AM
Here's what I've heard:



Jedi vs Sith
Anakin - new
Asajj - new (kitbashed)
Grievous - ROTS Sneak Preview
Obi-Wan - new
Yoda - SAGA 03-15 Yoda & Chian

Jedi vs Separatists
Anakin - AotC Deluxe (Geonosian Chopping)
Obi-Wan - SAGA 03-01 Acklay Battle - not sure, but it doesn't look like the Acklay version  :-\
Jango - SAGA 02-31 Final Battle
Mace - SAGA 02-28 Geonosian Rescue
Maul - SAGA 03-25 Theed Hangar Duel

Rebellion vs Empire
Chewie - ROTS III-5
Han - SAGA 02-37 Endor Raid
Luke - SAGA 03-17 Throne Room Duel
Stomtrooper - CommTech
Vader - SAGA 03-18 Throne Room Duel

Assault on Hoth - Toys R Us Exclusive
General Veers - POTF2 AT-AT pack-in
2 Snowtroopers - POTF2
Snowtrooper w/ E-WEB - SAGA 03-19 Battle of Hoth
Probot - POTF2 Deluxe

Jedi Temple Assault - K-Mart Exclusive
Anakin - ROTS III-2
3 Blue Troopers (501st) - ROTS III-6 repaints
Clone Pilot - III-34

Emperor's Throne Room
Emperor - SAGA 03-30 Throne Room
2 Royal Guards - SAGA 02-19 Coruscant Security
Stormtrooper - CommTech
Imperial Dignitary Kren Blista-Vanee - SAGA 03-41 Death Star Procession
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: evenflow on July 16, 2005, 12:10 PM
Man i am so happy i only "need" 2 of those sets. Jedi vs. Sith and i think the Clone Attack on Coruscant (provided there are new paint schemes on the clones). I can skip out on Jedi Temple assault since they are releasing those clones as singles.  ;D
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jim on July 16, 2005, 02:06 PM
The Grievous in the Sith Pack has a different Cape than the Preview one.  Only difference is the left side wraps around the front leg.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Nicklab on July 16, 2005, 06:10 PM
Here's what I've heard:
Jedi vs Separatists
Anakin - AotC Deluxe (Geonosian Chopping)
Obi-Wan - SAGA 03-01 Acklay Battle - not sure, but it doesn't look like the Acklay version  :-\
Jango - SAGA 02-31 Final Battle
Mace - SAGA 02-28 Geonosian Rescue
Maul - SAGA 03-25 Theed Hangar Duel

I THINK the Obi-Wan in this set might be a modified version of the Obi-Wan Kenobi - Outlander Nightclub Encounter figure.  The key difference being that the lightsaber hilt isn't attached to the lower part of the tunic.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on July 17, 2005, 01:35 AM
Thanks to the handy-dandy-image above (and now below), the Obi-Wan is a Saga/AOTC Pilot Obi-Wan Kenobi figure, sans robe, and with a seemingly different head.  At least I don't see a Jedi pilot headband on him there.  That's definitely not the Ackley Obi-Wan though, and not the Outlander Club Obi-Wan that was a different pose and articulated.  May be either of those figure's head though.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/qwre.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: JesseVader08 on July 17, 2005, 02:11 AM
Thanks guys!  That Obi-Wan really had me stumped - the angle of the picture made it tricky to get a good luck at his face.  I think the consensus would be, at a minimum, to treat it as a kitbash figure, if not altogether new.

And Mace Windu seems to be the Geonosian Rescue figure, but with a new head (like Nathan pointed out, he's missing the "constipated" look  ;)).

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on July 17, 2005, 02:31 AM
If that picture holds true to the retail release, that Obi's definitely the Pilot figure mostly...  I can tell by the left arm's thinness at the top, the left hand's weird look due to the magnet in it, the skirt-piece, the legs...  The head's the only mystery now.

That Mace's head, to me, looks like the Deluxe AOTC Mace Windu w/Battledroid if I had to put a name to it.  It's the only Mace with teeth showing I can think of that isn't open-jawed.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 17, 2005, 03:05 PM
Regarding the Target clone 5-pack, I assume that the figures in the packaged sample are not the figures we're getting. It looks like the figures pictures on back are the actual figures right?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 17, 2005, 06:28 PM
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Regarding the Target clone 5-pack, I assume that the figures in the packaged sample are not the figures we're getting. It looks like the figures pictures on back are the actual figures right?

I certainly hope so.  I still can't tell what mold the Clones are using, but the photos certainly seem to make the front out as a mock-up with actual packaging images used for the back photo.  Again, I HOPE, since this is now the only Battle Pack I intend to buy.

After looking over the list of who is in what Battle Pack, it occurred to me that many of these figures could, with a few exceptions, be considered pegwarmers during the original release.  I mean, out of all the figures, here is what I could identify:

-Jedi vs. Sith: seems okay, but that Anakin figure still looks horrid.

-Jedi vs. Separatists: Mace was probably the grand champion of pegwarmers in 2002, Final Battle Jango had his share of dust, and one of my local WMs still had mountains (at least 30) of those Deluxe Anakins for over a year after AOTC was out of theaters.

-Death Star Whatever:  Chewbacca (III-05) is currently warming pegs, and the Endor Raid Han was in the top 5 of Saga pegwarmers for 2002, and Luke is absolutely horrible (moreso without his base, which made the figure work in a way).

-Battle of Hoth:  A Probot that fails by today's standards, along with not one but 2 already surpassed POTF2 Snowtroopers, a General Veers that is almost vintage quality in terms of sculpting (I like the vintage line too, but detailed they ain't), and the Saga Snowtrooper, which wasn't exactly a big seller then or in the OTC line.

-Jedi Temple Raid:  I'm fine with the 3 501st troops, but this will be the third time that Anakin figure has been released with no paint mods, and the Clone Pilot would be pegwarmer of the year if not for the glory that is the Neimoidian Warrior.

-Emperor's Throne Room:  A truly horrible Emperor Palpatine, 2003's champion pegwarmer (the Imperial Dignitary), two ERGs that warmed many a peg in 2002.

-Coruscant Clones:  The only set that doesn't seem to have been slapped together in about ten minutes, and naturally, it's an exclusive at the one place that has more difficult to track down exclusives than any other retailer.

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Deanpaul on July 17, 2005, 07:34 PM
Don't forget the possibility that they're all made out of bend-ems plastic...
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 17, 2005, 09:01 PM


-Jedi Temple Raid:  I'm fine with the 3 501st troops, but this will be the third time that Anakin figure has been released with no paint mods, and the Clone Pilot would be pegwarmer of the year if not for the glory that is the Neimoidian Warrior.





In my neck of the woods, the Mas Amedda situation is far worse than the neimodians.  When the clearance comes, the neimodians will be coming home with me in bunches.





-Coruscant Clones:  The only set that doesn't seem to have been slapped together in about ten minutes, and naturally, it's an exclusive at the one place that has more difficult to track down exclusives than any other retailer.



You have no idea how much I hate when army builders are exclusive to one store...because all that means is, they're exclusive to ebay  >:(
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on July 18, 2005, 03:50 AM
Target sometimes surprises people on exclusives, but they are the company that tends to be a crapshoot.  Wal-Mart a close second on that issue then.  So far, only KB, TRU, and K-Mart (little to go by there) are reliable with getting in "enough".

Target...  The B-Wing was easy to find, while Y-Wings were non-existant for I'd say the majority.  Some saw the Skiff in droves while others I hear couldn't find one for the life of them.  The 12" Biker scout was rare to many while the Leia and Luke were easy to find...  The accessory sets were pretty easy to find overall, but the cup sets seem like a mix of tough ones to find and some that are relatively easy.

For me, the Target Vader was something you were screwed on getting if you didnt' get in line for the ticket...  The Target Clone I found at numerous stores in good numbers just sitting there, and after a couple weeks they finally were gone.   :-\  It was a weird situation.

About retail's current stagnant state, I agree wholeheartedly with you Dressel, that suddenly Mas Ameda became pegwarmer extrordinaire while the Neimodian has dwindled in comparison.

Not to say I can't find a Neimodian Gunner, or Clone Pilot, but neither are nearly as significant as they used to be, and in my area Mas Ameda's overtaken both in pegwarmer status.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 18, 2005, 11:52 AM
Well - I picked up two Jedi vs. Sith Battle Packs this morning at KMart - opened one up gleefully at work just a few minutes ago and the Ventress left arm broke off in my hand when I tried to rotate the elbow joint.

I'm off to go return it to the KMart nearest to where I work. I'm hoping that they'll let me either exchange it or get my money back. I'm not choking on the $25 price tag again just to re-buy ONE figure.  >:(

This is why openers HATE multi figure packs.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 18, 2005, 11:57 AM
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I'm off to go return it to the KMart nearest to where I work. I'm hoping that they'll let me either exchange it or get my money back.

Pete, just an FYI that K-Mart's return policy is that as long as you have the receipt and it is within the return window (I can't remember if this was 30 days or 90 days off the top of my head), they will give you a refund or let you exchange it for the same item.  In late April I returned the 12" Ultimate Villain Anakin/Vader to a local K-Mart (I had bought it about 100 miles away at another K-Mart while on the road) and got a refund, no questions asked, since I had the receipt and it was only three or four days since I had bought it.

I would not think they would refuse a refund/exchange for the same item, since K-Mart's toll free customer line gave me the impetus to actually try and return the Vader instead of hang onto it and accept its nonfunctionality.  Good luck with the return!
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: ruiner on July 18, 2005, 12:39 PM
Go figure, the only two sets I want are store exclusives.

Definitely want the 501st set - thank god I have a K-Mart within driving distance.  Should be somewhat easy to track one down if I can keep the scalpers in line.  Ben may have to hide some for me when he's out and about!   :P

And who doesn't want the Target clonie set?!  This one will be a bitch.  I NEVER found a Target clone (many thanks to JD for helping me out with that one)!

I was going to buy the Jedi vs. Separtist set, but I really don't want to pay $22 for the Obi-Wan armor and Asajj...seems like a waste when I already have the other figures.

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 18, 2005, 01:58 PM
Well - no questions asked they took the item back since it was clearly broken. The guy let me go check to see if they had any more in stock in the Toy Section and when I came back empty handed he just gave me the $25 and I was on my way.

I opened up the second one when I got back from lunch and this one is fine. So now all I need is a MIB one.

I really like the Ventress, Anakin and Obi-Wan figures in this pack! Definitely worth getting the set for.

Yoda and Grievous are just the same figures over again.

The name for this set is odd - Grievous and Ventress aren't really Sith - Ventress is more like a Dark Jedi and Grievous is a droid who has been trained in the use of a lightsaber by a Sith Lord. Hardly makes him "sith".

This set should have been called "Jedi vs. Seperatists" and then the next set should have included Dooku instead of Jango and that could have been called "Jedi vs. Sith" - it would have made A LOT more sense.

It's too bad the OT Battle Packs are turning out to look like such turds. The Rebels vs. Empire and Hoth Assault sets are both pretty weak. At least for the Hoth set if they had given us three Saga SnowTroopers it would have been better.

The Jedi Temple Assault Set looks to be the only other set worth having. Wish they had a fourth 501st. Did anyone hear anything more about the "Hunt for Yoda" set - I thought we'd see that one - three Clone #6 repainted to be ShockTroopers, Emperor and Yoda all on a Senate Chamber backdrop - that would be a nice set.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, here are all of the Battle Packs so far:

General Release:
Jedi vs. Sith (out now)
Jedi vs. Seperatists
Rebels vs. Empire

Exclusives
Jedi Temple Assault (KMart)
Hoth Assault (TRU)
Clone Attack on Coruscant (Target)

????
Emperor's Throne Room
Hunt for Yoda

Did I forget any?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 18, 2005, 05:22 PM
Good to hear that the return went smoothly, Pete.  I was just at a K-Mart today and they had just put out four of the Battle Packs.  In a rather unprecedented move for me, I actually didn't buy one (yet).   ;D

As far as the Battle Packs themselves go, it looks like you've got them all listed, although the "Hunt for Yoda" set isn't a BP as much as it is suspected of being a Deluxe Clone 3 pack repainted as the Shocktroopers from the Senate/Mustafar for TRU.

Title: Okay, so sell me on this Battle Pack...
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 18, 2005, 11:52 PM
The more I think about that Battle Pack, the more curious I am as to whether I should actually drop the 20 bucks and change on it, since there are apparently "new" figures in it, and the articulation on the Anakin didn't look too bad at all at a cursory glance. 

So, I'm asking for honest responses and, if possible, an indepth review of the set and whether or not, for me, a loose collector, it would be worth it to pick this up and try to pass the Yoda and Grievous off to someone else who might want them down the line.

Points I'd like cleared up:

-Who is actually a new sculpt and who is not

-Are the older sculpts tweaked in such a way that it improves/weakens the original sculpt

-Points of articulation

-How well the Clone armor fits on Obi-Wan and how ridiculous it does or doesn't look when he's wearing it

So, basically, is it worth me buying the set just for the Ventress (which by all accounts seems to be a repaint), the Anakin and the Obi-Wan?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on July 19, 2005, 02:27 AM
In-depth Review?  Hell no!  Those are for my dayjob. :)

But i'll give a rundown of what you wanna know for sure Dr. P.

Quote

-Yoda & Grievous...  If you have the figures these 2 are descendant of, you have these figures, or even better versions of them as the paint aps of these 2 are in doubt as far as quality.

-Anakin...  Face sculpt actually looks ok, but it's all about the paint aps.  Mine appears to have brown lipstick on.  The sculpt overall is good though, with lots of detail.  His ripped pants, his torn up undershirt...  He is a nicely sculpted figure.  His bionic arm is particularly nice with it actually being "hollow" in the center with lots and lots of detail...

His left arm is everything a bare-arm could be, and shows the type of arm that Dagobah Luke SHOULD have had instead of the 2 pre-posed sets.  Nicely hidden articulation on bare arms is unheard of, but Hasbro nailed it.

The bent ankles ruin the Anakin for me, but he does have ball/socket knees.  give him straight-posed legs in their sculpt though, and the articulation would've easily yielded action poses, and I'd be a completely 100% satisfied customer with the Anakin.  paint can be touched up, but bent ankles cannot.  :(

-Obi-Wan...  Not bad if you can get past the holes for the armor that are on his legs, arms, shoulders, etc...  The body is just a cape with the armor stuck on it.  Very lame.  The armor overall looks like ****, to be perfectly blunt, and the only thing that fits the figure well is his helmet.  The rest of the armor's a waste.

The lance is really great...  Rubbery, but not terribly so, and so it's kinda neat. 

BTW, both Ani and Obi's sabers are kind of lamely painted.

Obi's articulation is nice with ball/socket ankles, angle-cut elbows, wrist joints, ball/socket shoulders...  Obi-Wan turned out nice.

Anakin and Obi-Wan BOTH have non-poseable right legs however.  Due I'd say to the action feature.  I forgot to mention that on Anakin.  Another major drawback to both figures unfortunately, so beyond the ankles on Anakin tack on his right leg.

-Assajj is a completely new sculpt, and seems more accurate to her cartoon without looking too cartoony.  She looks "real" but far better to her CW figure.  Her sabers are single-piece, but still interlock to form a saber staff like the CW Assajj figure.

Assajj has holsters for her sabers, however she can't use them since the blades don't come off her sabers.  Very stupid really, to sculpt a figure from scratch like that, include the holsters for the sabers, then not re-use teh 2-piece saber mold as it was, but rather mold it solid with the blades.  Dumb.

Assajj lacks articulation that the CW version had.  She has no wrist joints, just angle-cuts at her elbows.  The CW's a better figure for poses.  The 5-pack also lacks the removable cloak the original figure had... 

To be honest, the 2 Assajj figs are a draw actually.  The 5-pack's more accurate to the toon, however she doesn't accept as many cool poses as the first Assajj...  I wouldn't say she'd make me wanna buy the set though.  The Obi-Wan's closer to perfection really.

No figure in the set's perfect.  Too bad, as they came close with the 3 figures in the set people want (Obi, Ani, Assajj).  Oh well...  Hope that little breakdown of the set helped ya some.  It's a bit rambling, but I was working fast on this one. ;)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Omega Squad Commander on July 19, 2005, 01:30 PM
Did anyone notice the "removable helmet" in the trooper 5-pack?

Are all of the removable helmet version?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on July 19, 2005, 01:46 PM
Did anyone notice the "removable helmet" in the trooper 5-pack?

Are all of the removable helmet version?

You mean from this picture?

(http://www.jedidefender.com//news/images/cc05dump/DSC08865.jpg)

Don't get your hopes up, the packaging shown is just a prototype at this point.

In fact, the text on the front of the Clone Trooper 5-Pack Mock-Up used in the photos is the same as the Rebels Vs. Empire pack.  The removable Helmet it is talking about on the box is for the Darth Vader in that set.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/DSC08457.jpg)


Jeff
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Omega Squad Commander on July 20, 2005, 12:12 PM
[/size]Did anyone notice the "removable helmet" in the trooper 5-pack?

Are all of the removable helmet version?

[/size]You mean from this picture?

Don't get your hopes up, the packaging shown is just a prototype at this point.

In fact, the text on the front of the Clone Trooper 5-Pack Mock-Up used in the photos is the same as the Rebels Vs. Empire pack.  The removable Helmet it is talking about on the box is for the Darth Vader in that set.

Jeff
Man, you open my eyes and hurts.... I want to cry. :'(
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on July 21, 2005, 12:31 AM
Jeff's ruined my hopes and dreams too.   :'(
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Brian on August 12, 2005, 02:40 PM
Our local Wal-Mart is in the middle of its toy reset, and had several of the Jedi vs. Sith packs on the shelves yesterday.  They also had a shelf tag out for the Evolutions sets, but no sets out yet.  Might have to keep checking back there.  The basic figure pegs were jammed full of the usual pegwarming suspects.  It looks like Star Wars will continue to have a pretty large aisle presence at Wal-mart for awhile yet though.  Not a lot of product out yet, but a number of pegs for the stuff that should be getting put out sometime (hopefully).
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Diddly on August 12, 2005, 05:38 PM
Okay, I saw the Jedi vs. Sith pack at Target today, and they wanted $25 for it! Anybody know what that's all about?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Gatillo on August 12, 2005, 08:37 PM
Target lately is charging whatever it wants for stuff.  AT-RT were 19.99 at first instead of 14.99
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 13, 2005, 02:54 AM


Now, don't hold your breath because these dates have been wrong plenty of times before, just thought I'd let you all know in case anyone was champing at the bit to pick up this exclusive box of rehashes.   :P

I'm not holding my breath because they are rehashes. ::)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: JediMAC on August 21, 2005, 05:59 AM
So I stumbled upon Battle Pack #2 tonight at Target - Jedi vs. Separatists.  Not a single Separatist in there (especially not Maul), but what the hell.  Rehashed crap, galore!  ::)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Battle_Packs/Jedi_Vs_Seperatists/tn_JediVsSep_fr.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: MetalJedi on August 21, 2005, 06:30 AM
So I stumbled upon Battle Pack #2 tonight at Target - Jedi vs. Separatists.  Not a single Separatist in there (especially not Maul), but what the hell.  Rehashed crap, galore!  ::)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Battle_Packs/Jedi_Vs_Seperatists/tn_JediVsSep_fr.jpg)

Please tell me you didnt buy it.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Diddly on August 21, 2005, 02:42 PM
Ugh. At least put in some figures people may want to buy, like the Jedi vs. Sith set... ::)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Ben on August 21, 2005, 04:22 PM
That isn't a new Obi-Wan, is it? I'm hoping it's just a repainted CW Obi-Wan.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 24, 2005, 10:37 AM
Can anyone tell me when the Snowtrooper/Veers battlepack is coming out?

According to Amazon, 9/5. But, since when has Amazon been known to accurate? :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: MetalJedi on August 24, 2005, 07:17 PM
That isn't a new Obi-Wan, is it? I'm hoping it's just a repainted CW Obi-Wan.

On the Jedi vs Sep set its just the Saga Coruscant Chase Obi Wan. Nothing is new.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: SilverZ on August 24, 2005, 07:27 PM
The problem is that Anakin is **sorta** new. I took a shot in the database trying to show the arms and the big button coming out of his back. He has an action feature that is different than the Hanger Duel version, and has the soft goods robe. I consider that new enough to be both pissed off and in need of purchasing the thing.  >:(

I'm really, really annoyed about possibly having to buy two of these to get a lousy (and by lousy I mean shittastic) figure.

And you should have seen Colman dive for that thing at Target, right after I commented about the previous set being so generic I'd end up passing right over it in front of me. And, viola. There was Crapfest #2 on the bottom shelf.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darby on August 24, 2005, 08:44 PM
The Anakin looks exactly like the 2002 deluxe version, where he slices and dices the Geonosian.  I'll have to fig him out and see.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: SilverZ on August 24, 2005, 11:29 PM
The Anakin looks exactly like the 2002 deluxe version, where he slices and dices the Geonosian.  I'll have to fig him out and see.

Ahhh... I completely forgot about that one. Did it have soft goods?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on August 24, 2005, 11:45 PM
Ahhh... I completely forgot about that one. Did it have soft goods?

Yes, a cheapo vinyl type soft-goods thing:

http://www.rebelscum.com/swsaga/saga-dxanakin_front2.jpg

Interesting though  is that the Saga chopping/deluxe Anakin had the "SCREAMING" open mouth sculpt, but the 5-pack version looks like it uses a different head:

Saga Version / 5-Pack version:
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-05/dlxanakinhead.jpg)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-05/JediVsSepani.jpg)

Hmmm... looks like maybe the Mace has a new/differnt head too?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: SilverZ on August 28, 2005, 03:44 AM
I added a couple of boxed pics of the Jedi Temple Assault and the Imperial Throne Room sets to the Image Database.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Battle_Packs/Jedi_Temple_Assault/tn_bat_jta_f.jpg)
Jedi Temple Assault (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Battle_Packs/Jedi_Temple_Assault)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Battle_Packs/Imperial_Throne_Room/tn_bat_imp_f.jpg)
Imperial Throne Room (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Battle_Packs/Imperial_Throne_Room)

The Imp set is utterly pointless. Interesting too that they show oneDignitary on the box back and include the other in the set.

I agree with SpudTrooper's comment in another thread about the 501st clones -- they look a bit dull in the paint apps. Hopefully the single carded version will look better. I don't plan on taking mine out of the package until I find a second set.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: JediMAC on August 28, 2005, 04:26 AM
So, the most important question (Jared, or anyone else with them in hand), as always with these repack sets, does it look like any of the figures from either of those (or the new Hoth set if anyone's found it) are different/revised/rescuplted/new in any way?  Or just identical re-releases?  As it stands, I'll unfortunately have to be getting a second set of the Jedi vs. Separatists due to the different heads on some of the figures.  So hopefully I can pass on having to do that with these latter 3 sets...
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on August 28, 2005, 04:30 AM
May have to nab 2 501st sets...  I wish the Clone pilot was a variant on some level...  Or at least the as-of-now harder to find Black pilot.  Some unique helmet markings would've worked for me though.

The extra Ani I wind up with will either make for the fodder bin or a hand-off to one of the kids since they dig Anakin in general...  The pilot's my only stickler that I wish was at least different then, but whatever.

If Ani was a Clone Trooper though, this set would be something I think they could restock and sell again and again.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 29, 2005, 06:46 AM
Yeah - the Jedi Temple Assault is a for the most part, a great set. The only thing that kills it is the Clone Pilot. My son looked at it last night and was like: "When was a Clone Pilot raiding the Jedi Temple?" - and I didn't know what to say to him other than: "Well Hasbro thinks there was, I don't know what to tell you."

I really wish they had just included a fourth 501st trooper.

Same thing goes with the Imperial Throne Room set. The Stormtrooper is an odd choice. Instead of having one dignitary in the box and another in the picture on the back - just include BOTH of them and forget the Stormtrooper.

I also would have re-organized the Jedi vs. XXXX sets like this:

Jedi vs. Sith:
Anakin from Yavin 4
Asajj Ventress (she wasn't full sith but close enough)
Qui-Gon Jinn
Obi-Wan Kenobi (TPM)
Darth Maul


Jedi vs. Seperatists:
Obi-Wan Kenobi (Snap-on Clone Armor)
Durge
Mace Windu
Ki-Adi Mundi (or Shaak Ti)
General Grievous

But that's just me.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 29, 2005, 09:03 AM
So, the most important question (Jared, or anyone else with them in hand), as always with these repack sets, does it look like any of the figures from either of those are different/revised/rescuplted/new in any way? Or just identical re-releases?

Well Matt, even though I don't have (and don't intend on getting) the Throne Room set, I did look rather closely at it, and all 5 figures look to be straight repacks of their earlier versions with no sculpting changes.  Whether or not there are paint changes, I don't know, but they're the same figures that we've already gotten.  The only really obvious difference I noted was that the Stormtrooper comes with the post-POTJ scale blaster instead of that huge rifle, so there you go.

The Vader and Clone Pilot in the JTA set are straight repacks too.  I compared them to the regular carded versions last night and neither of them have any noticeable differences in the sculpts or paint apps.  The only differences are the lack of extra accessories with those two, as Vader does not include the lightsaber hilt, extra non-saber hand, or Dooku saber, and the Clone Pilot doesn't include that huge radar cannon doohickey.  Other than that, they're identical to the basic carded releases.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 29, 2005, 11:48 AM
Let me just second that. The only difference for ANY of the re-released figures in both of these packs is the LACK of accessories.

Emperor - doesn't include the small lightning snap on accessories that came with the original figure

Stormtrooper - includes the smaller blaster accessory and doesn't also come with the gun-rack and pistol that the figure has been carded with so many times over.

Anakin/Vader - like DP said, doesn't include the spare hand, lightsaber hilt or a second sith lightsaber (either Vader's in an Anakin hand or Count Dooku's) like both variations of the original figure did.

Clone Pilot - again, like DP said, no radar-dish cannon, which to me is no loss since that accessory stinks and since I have seven open Gray/White Pilots and four open Black Jumpsuit Pilots, the last thing I needed was another one of those!

So unless you're a retard like me that has to get 2 of EVERYTHING no matter what, you can definitely pass on a getting a second Imperial Throne Room set - which is what A LOT of people will do, which is why KMart will have a GLUT of the Imperial set and not be able to keep the Jedi Temple Assault set on the shelves.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 29, 2005, 03:15 PM

Clone Pilot - again, like DP said, no radar-dish cannon, which to me is no loss since that accessory stinks and since I have seven open Gray/White Pilots and four open Black Jumpsuit Pilots, the last thing I needed was another one of those!


Oh, how I loathe that radar cannon.  It sucked the first time they released it (with the 2002 Padme Pilot figure), and even though they made significant modifications this time around, it still sucks.  After taking a long time to discover what that goofy handle was that came with the figure, it makes it look even worse.  Clone Pilot Radar Cannon, may you rot in a landfill.   :P

Sorry for the derail, but my hatred of Clone Pilot Radar Cannons becomes more profound each day.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Famine on August 29, 2005, 03:24 PM
Sorry for the derail, but my hatred of Clone Pilot Radar Cannons becomes more profound each day.

Then give them to meeeee! ;D


Kevin
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on August 29, 2005, 04:57 PM
Yeah, I'm actually a fan of it Dr. P, but that's because it makes good diorama Fodder.  I've been using mine as small anti-personnel towers in dioramas.  Makes a nice EU Rebel weapon, and a paintjob can be all the difference for that thing, trust me.

But it's not in the movie so it is a bit goofy.  A removable helmet would've been preferred on the Clone Pilot over this accessory.

I'm still trying to figure out WTF the black bar thing is that the Pilot comes with.  Looks like a tool I guess, but why, and for what?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 29, 2005, 05:50 PM

I'm still trying to figure out WTF the black bar thing is that the Pilot comes with. Looks like a tool I guess, but why, and for what?

Jesse, if you're talking about the long-handled claw looking thing, it's the "trigger" for the radar dish.  It serves no purpose in the firing of the missle, but aesthetically, that's why it's there.

At the base of the radar cannon tower, there is a small open space (where the little lever thing went on the Padme Pilot version).  In this open space on the base of the tower is a very tiny hole, and on the end of the claw trigger thing is a tiny little peg that can fit directly into that hole.  The longish part of the claw piece juts out at an approximate 50% angle and the Clone Pilot can hold it in his hand to make it look like it's the trigger for the cannon.

It's times like this that I really wish I had a digital camera so I could show rather than explain, because I think that pictures would make more sense than I just did. :)  If you need further clarification, just PM me and I'll try to explain myself.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on August 29, 2005, 07:49 PM
It's times like this that I really wish I had a digital camera so I could show rather than explain, because I think that pictures would make more sense than I just did. :)  If you need further clarification, just PM me and I'll try to explain myself.

Eh, just steal one from Jared (JD's Image Database Guru)!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Basic_Figures/34_Clone_Pilot/rots_34_ac3.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 29, 2005, 10:04 PM
Emperor - doesn't include the small lightning snap on accessories that came with the original figure

Let me just correct myself here, I have no idea what I was thinking here. The Emperor figure is the same figure as ROTS #11 - the same one you can find everywhere now as an individually carded figure. So the only accessory you loose out on with this figure is the lightsaber, which kinda sucks, I would have loved to score an extra one of those.

For some reason I was thinking those mini lightning things that came with the Saga Emperor came with this figure as well. Duh to me.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on August 29, 2005, 10:05 PM

Eh, just steal one from Jared (JD's Image Database Guru)!


Umm, yeah, what Jeff said.  ;D

(D'OH!)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jesse James on August 29, 2005, 11:46 PM
It's times like this that I really wish I had a digital camera so I could show rather than explain, because I think that pictures would make more sense than I just did. :)  If you need further clarification, just PM me and I'll try to explain myself.

Eh, just steal one from Jared (JD's Image Database Guru)!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Basic_Figures/34_Clone_Pilot/rots_34_ac3.jpg)

Well ****, that's stupid.  :-\

I think I'll deal without the hockey stick out its back. 

They still make nice diorama fodder if you're into battle scenes and imagine the Rebs using these as nice trench warfare weaponry.  That stick's dumb though.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on August 30, 2005, 10:30 AM
As Jayson pointed out, Hasbro's got a new update this AM with nice shots of all the Battle Packs...

http://hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.news/newsid.F98D026A-D56F-E112-474259A61D694ED0/dn/default.cfm

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jayson on August 30, 2005, 11:27 AM
Hasbro blew it again… another missed opportunity to give us a Commtech Han, what do we get? The Saga Endor Raid version. I wonder if he will be available with both the white and gray action lever?  ;D
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DarthAcroyear on August 30, 2005, 03:39 PM
I really like the Target "Clone" pack. Not sure that I am going to like the price or how hard it is to find. ::)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: CHEWIE on August 30, 2005, 04:04 PM
Forgive me if I've missed anyone bring this up, but have we brought up any "wish lists" on these lately?  I've got a couple of wish lists for new ones.  I'll make one for each film.


TPM - Federation Army

- 5 Battle Droids, based off of the POTJ Security Droid sculpt (2 grunts, 2 red security, 1 yellow commander)


AOTC - Geonosis Battle

- 1 SA Clone, 1 Clone Pilot, 1 Geonosian Warrior, 1 new Arena Padme, 1 new Arena Mace Windu


ROTS - Kashyyyk Forces

- 3 BARC Troopers, 1 Sneak Preview Wookiee repaint, 1 Wookie #43 repaint


ANH - Tatooine Encounter

- 2 Sandtroopers, 1 Tusken Raider, C3PO, R2D2


ESB - Cloud City Battle

- 2 Stormtroopers, 2 Bespin Guards, 1 Imperial Officer (new head sculpt)


ROTJ - Battle of Endor

- 2 Scout Troopers, 2 Endor Troopers (new heads), 1 Paploo


 :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 5, 2005, 02:48 PM
I like your list, CHEWIE.  And in that spirit, I'll throw my own picks into the fray, based on the film-by-film format you employed. :)

THE PHANTOM MENACE:
-Naboo Invasion: OOM-9 (unreleased Trophy Edition figure), Destroyer Droid (Episode I body with post-Saga "head), Gungan Warrior (from Faamba), Queen Amidala (Episode I Battle figure), and Security Battle Droid (POTJ repack)

ATTACK OF THE CLONES:
-Geonosis Arena: Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS Pilot figure with new head), Clone Trooper (SA Clone Wars figure), Super Battle Droid (new SA sculpt), Jango Fett (SA version, based on VOTC Boba Fett with necessary mods), and Padme Amidala (Droid Factory lower torso, new head and upper body)

REVENGE OF THE SITH (based on us actually getting Cody as a basic figure next year):
-Utapau Assault: Commander Fox/Clone Medic (new parts), Utapau Clone Trooper (SA repaint) x 2, Battle Droid (SA, maybe new sculpt or Episode I version with a new paint job), and Grievous Bodyguard (new sculpt, SA, soft goods cloak)

A NEW HOPE:
-Death Star Escape: Han Solo in Stormtrooper Disguise (based on VOTC Stormie with new head), Luke Skywalker in Stormtrooper Disguise (ditto), Death Star Trooper (based on POTJ/Saga Imperial Officer with new head), Grand Moff Tarkin (ROTS figure with new or repainted head), and a VOTC Stormtrooper.

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK:
-Cloud City Freezing Chamber:  Bespin Security Guard (x 2 with two different heads), Boba Fett (VOTC in ESB colors with removable helmet), Han Solo in Carbonite (2006 TSC version of block with regular "non-glowing" paint), and a VOTC Stormtrooper.

RETURN OF THE JEDI:
-The Battle of Endor:  Han Solo in Endor Gear (VOTC with brown pants and a soft goods coat), 2 x SA Scout Troopers (new sculpt), Endor Rebel Soldier (Saga version with new head), and an AT-ST Driver (based on the Imperial Forces version/POTJ/Saga Imperial Officer with a new head and removable helmet from Saga/OTC Endor Han)

A boy can dream... :)
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darby on September 9, 2005, 04:43 AM
Mmm... wish lists...

TPM (Naboo Battle): Swimming Obi Wan (Trophy Edition), OOM-9 (Trophy), Holo Nute Gunray, Naboo Fighter Pilot w/ trenchcoat, and Battle Amidala.

AOTC (Arena): I can't really say it any better than Doc Padawan did, so moving on:

ROTS (Kashyyk): VOTC/EB Chewie w/ attachable Yoda, Wookie Warrior #43 repaint, SP Wookie repaint, BARC Trooper X2

ANH: Again, I must defer to Doc Padawan.

ESB and ROTJ are tough.  I just want so many new figures I know wouldn't be candidates for these kinds of sets.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 14, 2005, 10:26 PM
Utapau battle pack

Cody, grunt, utapau warrior, utapau battle damage droid

Coruscant Attack

Blue clone commander, grunt, jedi padawan, generic jedi (hammerhead)

Senate pack

4 new senator including ET senator

Bespin Pack

Stormie, Ice cream maker guy, Imperial officer (grey hat & uniform, Bespin guard (hyspanic)

What do you think.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: darkksith on September 16, 2005, 02:28 PM
has anyone picked up the rebels vs. empire battlepack, and if so, have you compared the figures to the previous released versions of each one? so far one person has said they thought the vader was the bespin duel figure with the throne room duel head. is this true? anyone notice any other little paint or sculpt changes? thanks.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth Broem on September 16, 2005, 02:50 PM
I did see the Clone Wars battle pack with Kenobi as the clone trooper.  I almost bought it but passed on it.  I am holding out on trying to find some other things I want instead.  That set is ok IMO.  I wish Anakin actually looked like Anakin instead of Jett Zukassa but oh well. 
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on September 16, 2005, 03:08 PM
I wish Anakin actually looked like Anakin instead of Jett Zukassa but oh well. 

The longer I have this set, the less it bothers me.  It's easier to just think of the Battle Pack guy as some random Jedi Padawan and not Anakin.  After all, when he's posed on the shelf with the Clone Wars Anakin they look like two different characters! 

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 17, 2005, 04:18 AM
Jeff, I agree, if it wast for the hand, he can be almost any battle damaged jedi.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Ner_vod on September 18, 2005, 09:43 PM
It's times like this that I really wish I had a digital camera so I could show rather than explain, because I think that pictures would make more sense than I just did. :)  If you need further clarification, just PM me and I'll try to explain myself.

Eh, just steal one from Jared (JD's Image Database Guru)!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/Revenge_of_the_Sith/Basic_Figures/34_Clone_Pilot/rots_34_ac3.jpg)

Well ****, that's stupid.  :-\

I think I'll deal without the hockey stick out its back. 

They still make nice diorama fodder if you're into battle scenes and imagine the Rebs using these as nice trench warfare weaponry.  That stick's dumb though.
When I first bought that, it took me forever to figure out where the stick goes. :P
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 20, 2005, 01:44 PM
Does anyone have a difinative wave/rotaion list for the general release BP's?

I know wave 1 was 4x Jedi Vs Sith and wave 2 was 2x Jedi Vs Sith and 2x Jedi Vs Seperatists. Is wave 3 2x Jedi vs Seperatists and 2x Rebel vs Empire?
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2005, 01:53 PM
Does anyone have a difinative wave/rotaion list for the general release BP's?

I know wave 1 was 4x Jedi Vs Sith and wave 2 was 2x Jedi Vs Sith and 2x Jedi Vs Seperatists. Is wave 3 2x Jedi vs Seperatists and 2x Rebel vs Empire?


That sounds about right and it matches what EE has for wave 3...

Wave 3 Case:
2x Rebellion vs. Empire
2x Jedi vs. Separatists.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2005, 04:38 PM
Wait! I saw one at EE that had X1 Rebel vs empire, X1 jedi VS sith, X2 jedi VS separatists. Did they change it or was I looking at a revision? I hope your case is the one because X1 rebelsVSempire sounds to short to be able to get.
Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2005, 04:50 PM
Wait! I saw one at EE that had X1 Rebel vs empire, X1 jedi VS sith, X2 jedi VS separatists. Did they change it or was I looking at a revision? I hope your case is the one because X1 rebelsVSempire sounds to short to be able to get.

that is the case that EE has listed as wave 2...

Star Wars Episode III Battlepack Wave 2 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85554B):
1x Rebellion vs. Empire, 2x Jedi vs. Sith and 1x Jedi vs. Separatists.


Star Wars Episode III Battlepack Wave 3 Case (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85554C):
2x Rebellion vs. Empire and 2x Jedi vs. Separatists.

Title: Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2005, 05:06 PM
I thought about surfing to EE but..I knew you'd do it for me! Thanks for the UPDATE