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Title: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 08:10 PM
Battle of Geonosis from Episode II will include 7 figures

This would be my ideal list:

New:

-SA Mace Windu
-SA Jango Fett with swappable jetpacks and removable helmets or switchable balljoint heads
-an arena Jedi that hasn't been done before (Roth-Del Masona (http://www.clonewarz.com/database/characters/jedi/rothdelmasona.htm), Sar Labooda (http://www.clonewarz.com/database/characters/jedi/sarlabooda.htm), Joclad Danva (http://www.clonewarz.com/database/characters/jedi/jocladdanva.htm), Sarrissa Jeng (http://www.clonewarz.com/database/characters/jedi/sarrissajeng.htm), etc.)

Repacks:

-SA Clone Trooper (2003 Clone Wars) -- absolutely a DUH! choice
-Clone Pilot (Saga 2002 or new)
-Coleman Trebor (Saga 2002) or Pablo-Jill (post-OTC 2004)
-Destroyer Droid (some version lacking the arm cannons)

Realistically there will have to be some core characters, such as a Yoda (Saga 2002 most likely). We will surely see one of the Saga Obi-Wans. An SA Padme would be neat, but frankly not in my top 7.

Poggle the Lesser (Saga Geonosis War Room, 2003) is a very close runner-up, but he could also resurface in a Mustafar War Room set.

I'd also like a rerelease of the Saga Wat Tambor, this time with a more accurate paint deco.

How about even a Republic Commando--hey, according to EU they were active offscreen ;).

Assuming there are Deluxe/Ultra and vehicles in this wave:

-repacked Clonetrooper and speeder bike (02 Saga or 03 Clone Wars)
-repacked Spider droid (Saga or Clone Wars)
-repacked Saga Flying Geonosian with Sonic Blaster and Attack Pod
-repacked Geonosian Starfighter (03 Clone Wars)
-repacked Hailfire droid (03 Clone Wars)
-or even the Holy Grail itself: AT-TE
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on July 17, 2005, 08:25 PM
I would love to see the AT-TE obviously, but with the way Hasbro runs things it might be a better bet to just make our own.   :-\

Anyways, good choices... here's how I think they might do it -

BATTLE OF GEONOSIS (7 figures):

-SA Mace Windu (new)
-SA Jango Fett (new)
-SA Padme Amidala (new)
-Battle Droid (ROTS repack, painted red)
-SA Clone Trooper (Clone Wars repack)
-Kit Fisto (ROTS repack)
-Yoda (ROTS repack)

They might even throw us a bone and give us a new Clone Pilot.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 09:59 PM
Yeah, now that you mention it, a new clone pilot would be a better idea. A repack would be better than nothing though.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on July 17, 2005, 10:00 PM
I do not have much hope or intersest in this wave.  It would be cool if they did make stuff like a SA Mace with cloak, Fisto with Cloak, SA Jango Fett, New Clonetrooper or some from that EE exclusive, Po Nudo, another new Seperatist.  Maybe Poggle carded?  

I just don't really see them making much of an effort with new sculpts on this wave.  
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on July 17, 2005, 11:38 PM
Battle of Geonosis from Episode II will include 7 figures

OK, here we go with my guesses/wish list.  I'll assume 4 new figures and 3 repack/repaints for this wave of 7.

4 NEW Figures:
SA Mace WIndu - easy choice
SA Jango Fett - easy choice
SA Arena Battle Padme w/Blaster - again an easy choice
ANY other new Jedi we haven't seen yet (Bultar Swan or that Weequay Jedi Guy)

3 Repaint/Repacks:
Saga Coleman Trebor - recognizable repack of an alien Jedi
POTC Pablo Jill - ditto above
SA Clone Wars Clone Trooper - with a geonosis "dust" red paint wash

I'd like that please Hasbro!

Jeff
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 11:42 PM
SA Clone Wars Clone Trooper - with a geonosis "dust" red paint wash

Great idea! Or even better, Clean and Dusty variants.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 18, 2005, 12:49 AM
What I want to see/My predictions:

BATTLE OF GEONOSIS (7 figures):

-Mace Windu; SA with softgoods cloak and lightsaber. Neutral expression.
-Jango Fett; SA, basically a resculpt of VOTC Boba. Includes blasters and both jetpacks. Also has either removeable helmet or switchable balljoint heads.
-Padme Amidala; SA Droid Factory resulpt with softgoods cloak and Naboo and Battle Droid blasters.
-Battle Droid; Red painted ROTS version with blaster.
-Clone Trooper; CW Rerelease with blaster and rifle.
-Clone Pilot; new head on SA Clone body with blaster and rifle.
-Obi-Wan Kenobi; SA or near SA with chains and lightsaber.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 18, 2005, 01:24 AM
My wishlist....

NEW SCULPTS
SA Barris Offee
SA Mace
SA Jango Fett
SA Butlar Swan

Repacks

SA Clone Trooper (watch them put the AOTC preview figure here instead.)
Coleman Trebor or Pablo Jill
Nute Gunray(repaint)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 18, 2005, 01:34 AM
Welcome to JD, Greedo! :)

Great idea about a new Barriss. I passed on the Saga version because the pose is so stylized and bizarre it's almost a mini-Unleashed--more so than most of the Saga Jedi.

Is your Nute Gunray the one from the Geonosian War-room set?

And the AOTC preview clone isn't horrible IMHO, so it would at least be preferable to the basic 2002 Saga sculpt. *shudder*
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 18, 2005, 01:41 AM
Thanks for the welcome! :) The Gunray would be the War Room version, prefferably with new paint ops.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Brian on July 18, 2005, 09:37 AM
Quote
OK, here we go with my guesses/wish list.  I'll assume 4 new figures and 3 repack/repaints for this wave of 7.

4 NEW Figures:
SA Mace WIndu - easy choice
SA Jango Fett - easy choice
SA Arena Battle Padme w/Blaster - again an easy choice
ANY other new Jedi we haven't seen yet (Bultar Swan or that Weequay Jedi Guy)

3 Repaint/Repacks:
Saga Coleman Trebor - recognizable repack of an alien Jedi
POTC Pablo Jill - ditto above
SA Clone Wars Clone Trooper - with a geonosis "dust" red paint wash

This looks good to me Jeff, and I'd like to see the wave made up this way as well.  From what I've been reading the Evolutions assortment isn't planned much further than the ones we've heard about (at least not in the foreseeable future), so it would be nice to get the "VOTC-ish" versions of Mace, Jango, and Padme in this wave.  Easy choices.  Jedi are probably the best bets otherwise for filling out the wave (new or repacks).  In non-movie years, prequel figures don't always do quite as well, and after the ROTS onslaught I think many might have their fill of battle droids, Super battle droids, etc.  Stick to Jedi and Clones, and that would be fine with me :).
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on July 18, 2005, 10:06 AM
Everybody has great ideas but I think they are too optimistic - here's what we'll really see:

1.  Mace Windu (total control)
2.  Padme Arena
3.  Kit Fisto (ROTS)
4.  Obi Wan (Saga Arena)
5.  Clone Trooper (CW)
6.  Dooku (ROTS)
7.  Battle Droid (Saga or ROTS)


All existing molds.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2005, 11:33 AM
Again, if I only get 3-4 new figures, here is who I'd want to see:

SA Mace
SA Jango (repainted VOTC Boba)
SA Obi-Wan
Tikkes
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 18, 2005, 12:59 PM
Not to be pedantic, but they'd need to do new legs on VOTC Boba 'cuz Jango has shinplates whereas Boba does not. However the rest of the figure could be cannibalized easily enough.

And I'd love a Tikkes!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: starwax137 on July 19, 2005, 05:10 PM
Two words: Bultar. Swan.

I think this wave is probably our best chance. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on July 19, 2005, 08:10 PM
I would love to see a SA Mace Windu.

Sora Bulq and Bultar Swan would be obvious choices as well.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: proudfather2 on July 20, 2005, 09:56 PM
Mine are a little more realistic than most, but I remain optomistic.

Anakin (resculpt)
Padme (resculpt)
Obi-Wan (resculpt)
Dooku (rehash)
Mace (resculpt)
Jango Fett (resculpt)
Clone (white, blue, red, green, yellow)
Battle Droid (Clean, Dirty, Shot, Sliced, tan, red)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ThePerennial on July 21, 2005, 10:48 AM
so long as we get a resculpt of Jango Fett, I'm happy. Maybe my dreams of having an SA mandalorian army will be granted yet!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nicklab on July 21, 2005, 11:52 PM
Seven figures?  How about:

-Anakin Skywalker - Arena Battle with green lightsaber, SA
-Padme Amidala - Arena Battle with blaster, SA
-Jango Fett - SA w/ removable helmet
-Clone Trooper Pilot - SA w/ removable helmet
-Sora Bulq - Weequay Jedi Master
-Rotha Del Masona - Jedi Knight
-Bultar Swan
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on July 23, 2005, 06:29 AM
New stuff:
SA Evolutions style Obi Wan for the love of god
SA Evolutions style Mace, ditto
SA Barris or some other Jedi we haven't gotten yet
SA Arena Padme

Repacks/rehashes:
Clone Trooper, maybe in green?
Battle Droid
Poggle, Nute, or some other Sepratist

Dream Come True:
Bultar Swan
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: proudfather2 on July 23, 2005, 06:57 PM
so long as we get a resculpt of Jango Fett, I'm happy. Maybe my dreams of having an SA mandalorian army will be granted yet!

That would be great indeed but after getting news that the Carkoon Boba is going to be the 'rocket Fett' sculpt I'm not holding my breath. To bad too, either Fett is as good a candidate for super articulation as the Clone or Stormy.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Vator on July 24, 2005, 01:45 AM
I've been itching for some new II and I figures for a while now. I'd like to see:

*1) SA Mace Windu with soft-goods cape
*2) SA Obi-Wan with soft-goods cape
*3) SA Arena Padme with broken chain
*4) SA Jango Fett
5) Wat Tambor
6) SA Clonetrooper
7) POTJ Security Battle Droid (red)

and as a deluxe? Why not shoot us the cannon that was nixed from the Geonosian Area all that time back?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ThePerennial on July 24, 2005, 02:11 AM
so long as we get a resculpt of Jango Fett, I'm happy. Maybe my dreams of having an SA mandalorian army will be granted yet!

That would be great indeed but after getting news that the Carkoon Boba is going to be the 'rocket Fett' sculpt I'm not holding my breath. To bad too, either Fett is as good a candidate for super articulation as the Clone or Stormy.

 Indeed. I guess I shouldn't keep my hopes up for an SA jango either. it'll probably be a stupid rehash of final battle jango.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on October 9, 2005, 10:45 PM
Geonosis Wave (7 Figs)

Repacks:
CW SA Clone Trooper

New/Repaints:
CW SA Clone Repainted as a Yellow Commander w/ smaller rifle, A-Web, and Sandtrooper Macrobinoculars
NEW SA Bultar Swan w/ lightsaber
NEW SA Geonosian Warrior w/ force pike and sonic rifle
NEW SA Clone Pilot w/ to-scale gunship side turret, control yolk, and smaller rifle
NEW foldable Droideka w/ shield bubble that fits over Droideka
NEW SA Jango Fett w/ twin pistols, flamethrower effect, removable jetpack, pilot head gear, and removable helmet

Playsets/Vehicles:
Assembly Area Playset w/ pack in SAGA Clone Captain
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Greg on October 12, 2005, 10:01 PM
I hope this wave has:
Super Battle Droid (Saga reissue with new movie accurate small blaster arm.)
SA Mace Windu (NEW!!)w/ lightsaber
SA Barriss Offee(NEW) w/ lightsaber (BLUE!!)
Geonosian Warrior Reissue
SA Clone Trooper (Saga with green and white variaions, blaster, rifle, and cannon)
SA Jango Fett NEW with blaster pistols, removeable helmet and jetpack
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on October 18, 2005, 11:27 AM
News from the rumor mill:

*new* - Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi
*new* - Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader
*new* - Republic Commando
(repack) - Clone Trooper
(repack) - C-3PO
(repack) - Poggle the lesser
(repack) - Jango Fett
(repack) - Yoda

It sounds like Poggle might be new, but might be just a repaint of the Cinema Scene versions...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on October 18, 2005, 01:48 PM
This is certainly an interesting rumor. I have to say that I'll be pissed if we don't get a SA Jango resculpt. However, a republic commando? **** yeah! I love that game!

Sora Bulq sounds great too. I know there will be lots of people making him into the evil Clone Wars version from the Republic series.

Sun Fac will be a nice addition to the geonosian war room scene. Maybe he'll even be passable as a normal Geo, since the ones we have are super ******.

Here's hoping the Clone Trooper repack is the CW version.

Poggle the Lesser is a great figure anyways, so no gripes about the repack. Maybe I'll pick one up to do a "slaughter of the Seperatist leaders" diorama.

I just hope the C-3PO isn't that "snap on coverings" piece of **** from SAGA.

And of course everyone loves Yoda.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on October 18, 2005, 03:09 PM
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Sora Bulq --- Yipee! Can't wait!

Sun Fac --- Yipee!

Republic Commando --- **** yeah is right! (http://cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/froehlich/a049.gif) Although if this is true, then I predict this guy is going to be a real bitch to find. :-\

Clone Trooper --- Obviously it should be the CW SA version, but I will probably buy at least a few of whatever version it is.

Poggle the Lesser --- I don't have the original Screen Scene, so I can't wait for this!

C-3PO --- waiting to see what version it is. If it's the ROTS 3PO painted gray, then I'll bite.

Jango Fett --- probably pass.

Yoda --- probably pass, since it'll probably be the 2002 Hangar Duel Yoda. Nothing against that figure at all, but I already have him.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on October 18, 2005, 03:25 PM
*new* - Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi

- Now Sora Bulq is an interesting addition to the Star Wars line... very good thinking Hasbro!  Could see myself getting several of these for customs.


*new* - Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader

- Not a bad idea I suppose, I just wonder how much he will look like the other Geonosian Warriors?  Sure I'll get at least one to open.


*new* - Republic Commando

- Guess with the popularity of the game, this is a good idea... I wonder though, if it will really look like that design?


(repack) - Clone Trooper

- Better be the SA version... and packed in good numbers.


(repack) - C-3PO

- A ROTS repainted version could be nice, especially with an interchangeable head... will probably get at least one or two.


(repack) - Poggle the lesser

- Not a bad choice, but I smell a pegwarmer in this one... I'll probably pass.


(repack) - Jango Fett

- Crap, I wanted a new sculpt of him!  I'll pass.


(repack) - Yoda

- This will save me some money, I'll be passing on it.


 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on October 18, 2005, 06:43 PM
*new* - Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi

-  ;D Excellent choice. I can't wait to pick up a few of this guy.


*new* - Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader

- I honestly don't know who he is other than he is a Geonosian and I shot his fighter down in Republic Commando.


*new* - Republic Commando

- If this is true this could make for the best figure of 2006, there is soo much potential for this guy. I'll be picking up an Army.

(repack) - Clone Trooper

- If this isn't the SA version, and they pack in the SAGA version, it will be a very easy pass. If it is the SA I'll be so incredibly happy.

(repack) - C-3PO

- Maybe... I'll wait and see based on the pictures.


(repack) - Poggle the lesser

- I've got one loose so probably pass unless it actually is new.


(repack) - Jango Fett

- So much for an SA Jango. >:( Easy pass.


(repack) - Yoda

- I've got more than enough. Easy pass again.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on October 18, 2005, 06:49 PM
Strage that this wave doesn't do much for me, because I really liked the Geonosis portion of AOTC. I'm most looking forward to the repack Clone and C3PO.

I'd like the SA Clone with red Geonosian dust and some battle damage.

If 3P0 turns out to be the ROTS sculpt with the AOTC paint job, I'll be thrilled.

The others? Meh, for me.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 18, 2005, 07:24 PM
Strage that this wave doesn't do much for me,

Me neither. Good to see another carded AOTC clone so I cna get some more an non-EE prices. The Commando is interesting. I'm happy for all the EU fans and I just may pick a few to army build.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on October 18, 2005, 09:15 PM
Sora Bulq- Maybe i'll buy because of his EU factor.

Clone Commando- I'll most likely buy, glad to see EU figures.

Sun ***- Pass

Poggle- Pass

C-3P0- Pass

Yoda/Fett/Clone- All Pass.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on October 18, 2005, 11:04 PM
This is a big let down.  No Obi, Mace, Jango... sigh.  Anyways, my two cents:

Sora Bulq: Alien Jedi are always cool.  Sweet.

Sun Fac: Not exactly high on the ol' list, you know.

Republic Commando: Another left field choice, and a very good one.  Not sure why it's here, but hey.

Clone Trooper: Hopefully green.  SA or forget it.

3-PO: The only way this would be interesting was if was a repaint of the ROTS sculpt, and even then, I don't know.

Jango: Nope.

Yoda: Nope.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on October 19, 2005, 05:42 AM
*new* - Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi: I'lll pick this one up and it will be a high priority for me since it fits into a theme.
*new* - Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader: Maybe, maybe not.
*new* - Republic Commando: Yep, I'll bite.
(repack) - Clone Trooper: probably, gotto love the clones.
(repack) - C-3PO: Nope
(repack) - Poggle the lesser: Yes, 1.
(repack) - Jango Fett: Pass
(repack) - Yoda: Pass
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ThePerennial on October 19, 2005, 10:16 AM
*new* - Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi - Definite Yes. I wonder what they'll make him look like though. Probably the standard tan robes but it would be cool if he had darker colours for his robes.

*new* - Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader - Maybe. I'm not big on the political leaders, but I'm starting to get into it.
 
*new* - Republic Commando - ABSOLUTELY. Let's hope they do it right  with super-articultion and a DC-17 with blaster, sniper, and anti-armour attatchments

(repack) - Clone Trooper - If it's a clone wars version, then yes!

(repack) - C-3PO - Maybe, but not tokeep as is. If it's a repaint of tyhe ROTS version I'll get it to make custom protocol droids.

(repack) - Poggle the lesser - nope

(repack) - Jango Fett - Too bad it's not a new sculpt (It may be, as this is just a rumor!), cause I was hoping to get an SA Jango Fett. Guess my hopes were for nothing. hey, at least we're getting a Republic Commando.

(repack) - Yoda - nope.
Title: Attack Of The Clones Wave
Post by: rishakra on October 19, 2005, 01:32 PM
This is the "official" rumor list for the Attack Of The Clones Wave:
- Clone Trooper
- Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi
- Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader
- C-3PO
- Poggle the lesser: Geonosian Leader
- Jango Fett
- Republic Commando
- Yoda

OK, so what/who is the Republic Commando?  Is this the video game type clone or what???  I know it's just a rumor list but...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on October 19, 2005, 03:07 PM
Aside from Sora Bulq, nothing here interests me terribly. I may go for the Commando, if he's done well. It's a shame though, I like many, was hoping for a SA Jango and Windu. Oh well, maybe some day.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on October 28, 2005, 11:12 PM
RS updated with the 411 on this wave, which we basically already knew, but it does suggest the 3-PO has interchangable heads for the Arena scene.  Since I'm OK with the one they did before, I'll pass on him.  And probably Sun Fac too, since I can't really say I ever cared.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on October 29, 2005, 12:34 AM
Hmmm... I think they are making a mistake by putting out two different Geonosians at the same time... same goes for the 3PO.  I see that as a pegwarmer. 

Overall, this looks to me like only three figures will be sought after really - the Clone Commando, the SA Clone and the Sora Bulq.

For myself, here's what I *plan* on getting -

Clone Trooper - several, 5-6 probably

Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi - at least 2-3 of them

Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader - 1-2 of this figure

C-3PO - might pass...

Poggle the lesser: Geonosian Leader - probably pass

Jango Fett - pass

Republic Commando - several probably, about 6 of them

Yoda - pass

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on October 29, 2005, 01:28 AM
Well I was really hoping for Bultar Swan but I'll take 3 Sora Bulqs, one carded, one loose and one for dark jedi customization

Republic Commandos - I can see them making them one per case and making different variants of each just to piss us off even more. Other than that Im very stoked.

Clone Trooper - Hasbro you must make these the CW SA Trooper.

Yoda- pass

Jango- pass

C3P0 - pass

Poggle the Lesser - pass

Sun Fac- pass
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on October 29, 2005, 01:47 AM
This wave is pretty weak overall.  And I agree with Chewie that the two Geonosians is about as smart as the two recent Neimodians.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on October 29, 2005, 05:03 AM
Agreed that this is shaping up to be a weaker looking wave if true...

The Clone Commando's good news to me, but I'm sort of surprised they ran with figures based on a luke-warm game as far as popularity goes...  It's not like Rep Commando is being ranked as a top game right now, but what do I know.

Sun Fac...  A Geonosian that maybe can stand or won't melt and fall over when it gets about 60 degrees?

The repacks in general are poor at best, especially Jango (good god, not again).

CW SA Clone has to be the Trooper should he ship...  If not, heads should roll. 

And that leaves the Weequay Jedi as the only thing of real interest on the list, haha.  :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: starwax137 on October 29, 2005, 10:40 AM
I'm really disappointed we're still not getting Bultar Swan. >:( Oh, well.

Unless they really screw these up...

*new* - Sora Bulq: Weequay Jedi - Yes.
*new* - Sun Fac: Geonosian Leader - I'll wait and see.
*new* - Republic Commando - At least one.
(repack) - Clone Trooper - I'll wait and see. It depends. I'd love an Utapau clone. (Yes, I know it's the 'Battle of Coruscant' wave, but so what? They put Gragra and podracer pilots in the Naboo wave.)
(repack) - C-3PO - I don't know...
(repack) - Poggle the lesser - No.
(repack) - Jango Fett - No.
(repack) - Yoda - No.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on October 30, 2005, 08:29 PM
'Scum "confirmed" this will be a unique Commando from the game, "Scorch", instead of a generic dude. On the one hand I was hoping they'd do a plain one and a few variants based on the game, but on the other hand variants would surely be really hard to track down. But I'd be surprised if they didn't revisit this mold at some point in the future though ... if not as a running change then an EE set or something.

Also, their update has a conspicious lack of the clonetrooper goodness previously indicated. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Brian on October 31, 2005, 09:13 AM
I thought this wave looked sort of weak overall too, especially when you consider what it could have been...particularly with all new figures throughout.  Anyways, with what we are rumored to be getting, I think I'll pick up Sora Bulq, possibly the Clone Commando (even though I haven't ever played the game), and Poggle just because I never picked up the screen scene.  The others I'll likely leave behind.  If there's a Clonetrooper in this wave, that might also be tempting, depending on what it is.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on November 8, 2005, 09:10 AM
Wow!

(http://hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/85987Scorchx4.jpg)

Hasbro has the Geo wave up now!

Check it Out! (http://hasbro.com/starwars/pl/page.news/newsid.6B6224CA-D56F-E112-430F7DE3074E8138/dn/default.cfm)

It looks something like this:

Sora Bulq = *new*
Sun Fac = *new*
Scorch (Republic Commando) = *new*
C-3PO = Saga Deluxe Repack (no extra 3-PO head included?  ???)
Poggle the lesser = Saga Screen Scene repack
Jango Fett = Saga Kanimo Escape repack
Yoda = RotS repack (minus cloak)


Glad to see the rumor list we saw earlier panned out for the most part, but we seem to be missing a Clone Trooper. :(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Brian on November 8, 2005, 09:22 AM
Thanks Jeff....Wow, that Scorch figure is much cooler than I expected.  I'm not really familiar with the game, but I'd definitely like to pick this figure up.  The rest of the wave is kind of ho-hum for me, but I'll pick up Sora Bulq, probably Poggle (since I skipped the Screen Scene), and definitely this Republic Commando figure.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: John C on November 8, 2005, 09:24 AM
I'll pass on this wave.  A SA Jango or Mace would have been nice.   
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 8, 2005, 09:40 AM
I think the figure I'm most looking forward to is Sora Bulq. The commando looks like he could be cool, but he also looks a little too right out of the video game. I'm going to have to wait to see some side by sides with a normal clone.

Dissapointed in the lack of Clone Trooper as well, but Sun Fac looks surpisingly nice.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on November 8, 2005, 09:42 AM
Jeez, the only figure I want is the Republic Commando.  I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way.

This wave will warm the pegs (minus the Commando obviously).

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Mikey D on November 8, 2005, 09:45 AM
Jeez, the only figure I want is the Republic Commando.  I'm sure a lot of you feel the same way.


Nope.  I want the Commando, Sun Fac and Sora Bulq.  The rehashes can burn in hell.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on November 8, 2005, 10:00 AM
I'm definitly getting the Commando. All others are passes.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jayson on November 8, 2005, 10:02 AM
I like the first 3 for sure… I'll reserve judgement on the others 'til I see what pack-in goodies they come with.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on November 8, 2005, 10:05 AM
Wow, what a surprise this morning!

Sora Bulq - In my opinion the gem here is Sora Bulq.  What a great sculpt... his face looks so evil, no wonder he turns to the Dark Side and joins Dooku.  Simply amazing!  I definitely want several of this figure.  A+ job Hasbro!

Commando - Looks pretty good!  Never was a huge fan of the design, but it will make for a fun figure.  I just wonder if it will become the McQuarrie Stormtrooper of the SAGA wave, being impossible to find?  I'd like about 4 of them for a squad.

Sun Fac - He looks perfect, and better than the SAGA Geonosians.  Count me in for a few of him.

C3PO - Hmmm... if it has the rest of the Battle Droid body, I'll buy a few.  If not, I'll pass.

Poggle - Already have two of him, don't need more.  A good figure though.

Yoda - You kidding me?  And where's his robe?  Maybe they're making a nice soft goods one for him... that's the only thing that might sell me on this figure.

Jango Fett - I wouldn't pay a nickel for this.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ThePerennial on November 8, 2005, 10:32 AM
Wow, I'm impressed with the republic commando, it's just that it's a shame kind of. It doesn't look up to snuff with the rest of the figures and kinda makes it look cartoonish in comparison. Maybe if I switched up the legs with an SA clone and somehow got a Republic commando head from Ricky UK, then it'd be a GREAT figure because the only beef I have is with the leg sculpt and the eadsculpt to a lesser extent. Then again, it is a previewpicture and once they comeout, it may surprise me.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on November 8, 2005, 10:34 AM
Hmmm. Personally I find this whole wave incredibly dull. Bulq is cool, and the command is a might depending on articulation but the rest are an easy pass. I am a bit concerned abot Bulqs lower torso though. It looks suspiciously like the saga Plo Koons legs repainted. If thats the case I'll likely pass on him too.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jim on November 8, 2005, 10:36 AM
That Yoda fig has to be the biggest slap in the face.  Even with accessories it wasnt worth $5.  It just looks horrible and out of place. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: rishakra on November 8, 2005, 10:38 AM
If the Commando figure isn't heavily packed it's going to be rather hard to find.  As for the rest it's a train wreck!  Major train wreck!  I really wanted a new Jango too  >:(   From the pic the Commando doesn't even have much in the way of articulation but I really hope it's there and it just doesn't show up in the photo...  Either way customizers are going to go crazy with this one!

My only hope is now that Hasbro has the sculpt for the Commando it can do something like an Entertainment Earth exclusive with all of the Commandos from the game.  They would be repaints of the same fig w/ different weapons.  They could put it in a box like their Clonetrooper exclusive.  I'd buy 2 ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 8, 2005, 10:43 AM

My only hope is now that Hasbro has the sculpt for the Commando it can do something like an Entertainment Earth exclusive with all of the Commandos from the game.

Ack!  Bite your tongue.  Too many exclusives at exorbitant prices already.   :-\

I think the Commando looks great, but I agree that I hope he's more articulated than he appears.

And I can't believe they'd repack either of the ROTS Yodas.  They're both garbage.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: blaster_e11 on November 8, 2005, 10:49 AM
maybe they'll add some accessories for yoda, otherwise i'll only get the commando and sora bulq

maybe i'll try and get some cheap separatists leaders, who knows ?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on November 8, 2005, 11:16 AM
Does that Commando have Bacara legs? If they cheaped out on the articulation on that guy, it'll be a huge ******* shame.

It almost seems like Hasbro is taking a step backward as far as articulation on these new figures. I really hope that's not going to be the case.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Chris on November 8, 2005, 11:22 AM
Hasbro just doesn't get it.

They can eat their re-packs.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on November 8, 2005, 11:37 AM
Ok, what is this wave, 7 figures?  That kind of concerns me.  I guess the ratio might be something like this?


Sora Bulq - x 3

Commando - x 3

Sun Fac - x 2

C3PO - x 1

Poggle - x 1

Yoda - x 1

Jango Fett - x 1


At least, that's how I'd do it.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on November 8, 2005, 11:38 AM
--Sora Bulq is OK. -- definitely want.

--I agree, the Republic Commando looks a little "off" somehow, but he's still cool.  And hopefully he'll look better when we see him "for real". However, I wish they'd instead released a plain silver commando so we can build squads--which you can't really do with a distinctively painted individual trooper.

--Sun Fac -- definitely want.

--Poggle -- don't have the first one, so definitely want.

--C-3PO -- undecided

--Jango -- pass

--Yoda -- I think he's alright. I'm tempted to grab him just to have a version without the tan overcloak -- like after the Senate duel in ROTS.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on November 8, 2005, 11:50 AM
Ok, what is this wave, 7 figures?  That kind of concerns me.  I guess the ratio might be something like this?

Sora Bulq - x 3
Commando - x 3
Sun Fac - x 2
C3PO - x 1
Poggle - x 1
Yoda - x 1
Jango Fett - x 1

At least, that's how I'd do it.

Sure that looks good, but let me translate into "Hasbro" for you:

1x Sora Bulq
1x Republic Commando
1x Sun Fac
1x Poggle
2x C3PO
3x Yoda
3x Jango Fett

Ah,... that's more like Hasbro's idea of a good case assortment.  :-X

Or maybe we will luck out and they will add a Hoth Vader or Carkoon Fett in the place of that extra 3PO and Jango?   :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: rishakra on November 8, 2005, 12:10 PM
You're right about the "what Hasbro will probably do" case assortment. 

Oh, the only reason I was hoping for an EE Exclusive is so I could actually get one.  I know what you mean about hating exclusives -- hate the Target clone exlusives w/ a passion -- but the longer I collect the more cynical I get about being able to find some figures e.g., the Clone Wars Clone Trooper and the Darktrooper/Spacetrooper.  Those were freaking hard and I never saw them.  Only reason I have Clone Wars troopers is because of the EE packs.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rob on November 8, 2005, 12:15 PM
So wait a second, were there republic Commandos in the actual movie?  Or are they just using this as an excuse to get the figure out there?

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on November 8, 2005, 12:37 PM
So wait a second, were there republic Commandos in the actual movie? Or are they just using this as an excuse to get the figure out there?

I'd say it's the second part...

I do not believe that there were Republic Commandos "on-screen" in AotC, but in the Republic Commando video game, there is quite a bit of pounding on Geonosians.  I'm guessing there is enough of a tie that way so they could slip this EU figure into the regular assortments.


I have to admit that I'd love for there to be a running change on "Scorch" so we can get the rest of the squad too - bring on Sev, Fixer, and Boss!  ;)



Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on November 8, 2005, 12:37 PM
Wow, what a disappoinment after the first two wave images, where I even thought the choice of repacks was acceptable.

I really like Sun Fac, and think Sora Bulq is ok. I'm not a big fan of EU characters, so the Rep Commando has never been on my list of wanted figures, but at least they found a way to work him into the line for fans.

But my god, those repacks. WTF? If C3PO gets a better paintjob (the final repack figures seem to have also varied from these early shots) he might be ok. The others can't be helped. Poggle was fine before, so whatever, but that Yoda and that Jango are horrible.

I can see this wave being the bottleneck for the rest of the year, where Jango sits like he did in 2002, along with the Geonosians that everyone will tire of quickly, and no one will find the Republic Commando. Then, since there is no apparent flexibility for repack waves (since each case is themed) the Commando will be scarce for the rest of the year. This wave qualifies as a weapon of mass pegwarming. Lame.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: rishakra on November 8, 2005, 12:48 PM
Jared your last paragraph about this wave being a bottleneck for the rest of the year is scary because it' probably going to happen.  Jango is a cool character but that figure stinks.  The Republic Commando is the only cool one and everyone knows it... The 3PO is an abomination!  I'm already running from this stinker (except for the Commando)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on November 8, 2005, 12:57 PM
The 3PO is an abomination!  I'm already running from this stinker (except for the Commando)

I agree that if they try to sell that figure with only the Battle Droid head, it is doomed as a stinker.   :(

If they include extra stuff (the 3PO head at a minimum), it might do OK with kids I guess since R2 wil be available in the wave before (and probably still on the pegs) and the RotS 3PO seems to have sold well. 

In fact, I'd even buy an opener if they go so far to include the extra battle droid parts.  I always meant to (but never got around to) buy an extra of the Saga Deluxe version so that I could to display in both the "swapped" and "correct" modes for 3PO and the Droid. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Brian on November 8, 2005, 01:45 PM
Quote
I can see this wave being the bottleneck for the rest of the year, where Jango sits like he did in 2002, along with the Geonosians that everyone will tire of quickly, and no one will find the Republic Commando. Then, since there is no apparent flexibility for repack waves (since each case is themed) the Commando will be scarce for the rest of the year. This wave qualifies as a weapon of mass pegwarming. Lame.

Excellent point Jared, and this kind of worries me too.  This wave really doesn't interest me overall too much, and even though the "new" figures are pretty nice, the repacks are pretty craptastic.  The Poggle interests me, but just because I never bought the screen scene he was in before.  Plus, I'm not sure how "exciting" some of the others in this wave, aside from the Jedi (Sora Bulq) and the Clone (Commando).  Its too bad they couldn't have repainted/retooled the VOTC Boba Fett to make a real nice Jango, that would be a figure that would sell.  The character isn't necessarily bad, but the figure choice is poor.  I'm guessing since Hasbro has shown these "officially" they are the third wave of the year, coming prior to the Coruscant wave.  Hopefully pegwarming Jangos, Geonosians, 3POs, and possibly Yodas won't keep people from getting the much anticipated Commander Cody figure in the next wave.  Agreed on what everyone has said about the 3PO repack too, if they don't at least include C-3POs head (or all the other attachments as well), that's a dumb move.  That would at least make it a little more appealing to some people/kids I'm sure.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on November 8, 2005, 02:22 PM
I have about 8 of those SAGA deluxe 3PO/Battle Droids, and I believe I turned 7 of them into the regular Battle Droids for dioramas.  It's a decent figure actually.  If they make it with both droids, count me in for several.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: speedermike on November 8, 2005, 03:07 PM
Am I the only one that finds the Commando to be really non Star Warsy?  His big, techy gun is so out of place with the type of guns in the rest of the Saga.

In all honesty, if I never see that figure on the shelves, I won't sweat it.  The new Geonosian is very cool, as is Jedi Weequay.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: jedipurge on November 8, 2005, 03:31 PM
sora except for the knees looks to be balljointastic, couple of customs will come from him, just on the head alone.  the commando looks to have about as many joints as the ARC Trooper, his legs even look to be in the same stance as him.  the rest kind of suck and i think i'll be fairly unintrested in this one.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on November 8, 2005, 04:52 PM
So wait a second, were there republic Commandos in the actual movie? Or are they just using this as an excuse to get the figure out there?

I'd say it's the second part...

I do not believe that there were Republic Commandos "on-screen" in AotC, but in the Republic Commando video game, there is quite a bit of pounding on Geonosians.  I'm guessing there is enough of a tie that way so they could slip this EU figure into the regular assortments.

Plus in the first RC novel, Hard Contact, there are commandos fighting in the Geonosis battle--offscreen--mainly in underground catacombs I believe.

And remember the Clone Commander's line to Mace about the "special commando units" awaiting orders? This has been retroactively interpreted as a reference to our buddies the RCs.

I love how Hasbro is "sneaking" some EU stuff into the regular line. Ruffles fewer feathers that way. (http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/27.gif)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Diddly on November 8, 2005, 05:42 PM
I'll be getting the Commando, Sora, and the two Geonosians. They look great! I hope that Commando has the 14 POA... :-\

And where's the Clone? It had better be the SA/CW/EE Clone... >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 8, 2005, 06:16 PM
And where's the Clone? It had better be the SA/CW/EE Clone... >:(

I doubt Hasbro would have completely forgotten a figure in their official update, so I'm guessing that figure either won't be made or will be found in another wave.

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on November 8, 2005, 06:20 PM
Commando's were, supposedly, on Geonosis clearing out the catacombs.  I forget about the game since it's been a while but I believe that's the first level(s).  Also the trailer to the game was RC's dishing out pain to Geonosians in the catacombs.

I like RC's as characters in Star Wars...  The gun's big but the reasoning behind it is that RC's are dropped into zones for prolonged time, and the gun's a modular designed weapon that you can swap into a sniper rifle, a heavy weapon, a basic rifle...  It's really rather neat, but it screams "expensive" in the Star Wars galaxy, and something only elite troopers would have.  RC's are right behind the ARC's in clone "quality" so I can buy it.  The armor and bulkiness is along the same reasoning then, as it's reinforced and I believe even lightly shielded due to these troops not working in conjunction with larger units.  It's subsequently a ****load more expensive too and stuff.  I believe it has advanced communications in it, etc., etc...  All the excuses you'd need to say "Well ok it's got a reason behind it" basically.

My problem is more with the fact that I'm not seeing much evidence of articulation on the Commando unfortunately. :(  As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he only had 6 or 8 points total actually, just by my sizing him up in paintshop.  I'm really hoping I'm wrong because I'd like to buy a handful for building some teams, but I'm starting to really just think Hasbro's retarding the line tremendously now that the film rush is over.

Apparantly "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" isn't an old saying they're familiar with.

Sun Fac...  I'm amazed they got him to stand long enough to take the picture. :)  I wonder if he's an improvement over old Geo's or if he's gonna fall over immediately too?

Jango sucks...  Any repack of a figure that was even sitting on clearance is a dumb idea irregardless.

Yoda's a weird choice and if that's all there is to him, it's pretty insulting.  When you think about that Yoda's first release and all the **** he had, and then you get a 2nd one of him and that's all he is...  That's just pathetic.

Poggle is an easy pass.

Sora Bulq is cool...  Looks like partially re-used Kit-Fisto?  Maybe I'm wrong, but if I'm not I'm totally ok with that.  Looks neat to me and I'm always happy to add any and all Jedi to my army.  Some humans would be appreciated.

The Commando's my big concern as to his quality...  If he's a non-poseable trooper, he'll blow and I'll definitely be cutting back on my army building plans with him.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Bobafett77 on November 8, 2005, 06:33 PM
I'm definitely not sold on this entire wave. I'll probably be picking up a couple of the figures, most notably the Commando, but that's it. Man! The more I see what is coming, the easier it's making it to be selective with my buying. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Greg on November 8, 2005, 07:03 PM
Probably gonna pick up Sora(Yay, Jedi!), the commando, possibly 4 (SWEET!!!!!), Sun Fac, 3PO, and if it looks different in terms of paint, Poggle.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Diddly on November 8, 2005, 07:14 PM
And where's the Clone? It had better be the SA/CW/EE Clone... >:(

I doubt Hasbro would have completely forgotten a figure in their official update, so I'm guessing that figure either won't be made or will be found in another wave.



You know, on further inspection, I guess that turned out to be speculation. I could have sworn that a Clone was confirmed for this wave though...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on November 8, 2005, 08:10 PM
Looks like I'll just be picking up the Republic Commando, Sora Bulq and maybe Sun Faq since he's "new".

I just don't understand why we couldn't of had 2 other Jedi instead of Poggle and 3PO.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on November 8, 2005, 08:20 PM
Well I was kind of ho-hum about Sun Fac when I read the lists awhile back.  But he has actually become the number one want for me in this wave. 

I don't have any of the videogames so I could care less about the Commando.  Good to get a unique clone out there I guess. 

The Weequay Jedi is ok.  I will most likely get him but am kind of let down by the lack of leg articulation there.  It actually looks more like a Saga 1 figure which were not the best IMO.

Poggle is a cool figure but have him already from the scene screen. 

The others Jango, C-3PO, Yoda are kind of lame.  I guess they do need to put a Yoda out there though.  C-3PO is actually ok.  I have it from the deluxe figs from Saga 1.  I just can't see it selling well.  Jango may do ok since he's Jango but why they just don't repaint a VOTC Boba Fett and slap it a card is beyong me. 

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on November 8, 2005, 08:22 PM
And where's the Clone? It had better be the SA/CW/EE Clone... >:(

Oh come on, you really expected to have a clone for the Battle of Geonosis wave? You're off you're rocker. Next you'll be criticizing Hasbro for omitting a Battle Droid.  This wave is perfect! I'm going to build an army of C3PO with Battle Droid heads. ;)

Seriously, they could have made this an all-army builder wave, consisting of BDs, Super-BDs, and assorted Clone variants, then thrown in the new figures and had a home run, all while still doing little retooling.

I think the crack smoking monkey got promoted.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ROTJLuke on November 8, 2005, 08:52 PM
not at all happy/intrested with this wave besides the Commando...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on November 8, 2005, 08:57 PM
This has to be the weakest wave in a LONG time.  I agree with the earlier discussion that this could end up bottlenecking subsequent releases, since I don't see any of these figures, with the possible exception of the RC, selling well.

Sora Bulq: I always love new Jedi.

Sun Fac: I don't get it.  If Poggle wasn't in this wave, maybe, but even then, him over SA Mace, Jango, Arena Padme, etc.?

RC: Not high on my list, but he's cool enough.

3-PO: I suppose if they included a 3-PO head, but... pass.

Jango: Whatever.

Yoda: No cloth cloak?  You serious?

Poggle: Makes sense as a repack, but sort of makes you wonder what the rationale was behind making him 'exclusive' to a screen scene in the first place.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Morgbug on November 8, 2005, 11:09 PM
Ew.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ben on November 8, 2005, 11:12 PM
Well, I'll buy about three figures from this wave. The RC is one of them, but I predict another CW Clone fiasco with him. ::)

Why, oh why did THAT Jango need to see the light of day again?

And is Sun Fac that Geonosian Warrior? I like that one, but I'm not sure a figure is worth owning if I don't know the character's name.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 9, 2005, 12:25 AM
Sora Bulq: I'll be buying him for sure.

Sun Fac: Maybe, but probably not.

RC: Here is where I differ with most. I'll be passing on this figure. Big, Ugly, it looks like it belongs in GI Joe (no offense to GI Joe collectors).  It's just not a "Star Wars" figure for me so it is a very EASY pass.

3-PO: Jango: Rehashes are like kissing a cousin, SICK so I'll pass on these.

Yoda: Looks like the Bandito Yoda from the CW to me but no matter what I'll pass.

I think the biggest thing collectors are going to face next year is that most of the rehashes will clog the pegs and I really believe will slow up the availability of more popular waves/figures.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on November 9, 2005, 06:59 AM
I'll be getting the Commando and maybe Sun Fac. But I do have a special place in my heart for that Jango, back in '02 it was my first SW fig.  :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jim on November 9, 2005, 07:28 AM
I hate to say it, but I still think the Super Battle Droid, Battle Droid and Geo Warrior all need to be redone.  The SBD has mininal articulation and the stance is not the greatest.  The only problem with the BD is the plastic they use.  And the Geo Warrior needs to be able to stand better.  Maybe add feet a bit bigger that would allow a peghole for stands.  Im in no hurray for any of these updates but they would be nice eventually. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 9, 2005, 11:15 AM
I'll be getting the Commando and maybe Sun Fac. But I do have a special place in my heart for that Jango, back in '02 it was my first SW fig.  :)


AHHHHHH ::)....at least somebody wants it :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on November 9, 2005, 11:56 AM
Why so much hate for Jango?

I personally like this version - it's my choice for best Jango yet. 

Great for kids I guess...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on November 9, 2005, 11:59 AM
Why so much hate for Jango?

I don't think it is hate for Jango personally - just the fact that he's just another 2006 repack and NOT the brand new vOTC-esque SA sculpt that everyone was secretly hoping for...  :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jayson on November 9, 2005, 12:16 PM
Could they have just kitbash a VOTC Boba, repaint it and give it a removable helmet and call it a day. Hmm… maybe that a custom I'll have to tackle one day.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: rishakra on November 9, 2005, 02:57 PM
I guess Hasbo thinks it would be too hard to take one of the Boba Fett molds (of which I like several) and adjust it and repaint it to make a Jango Fett.  I'd LOVE a figure like that as Jango Fett is cool but the old version they are trying to pass on us is a stinker  :P and most (dare I say all) collectors -- as well as kids who were old enough when AOTC came out -- already have one or two of that version!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on November 9, 2005, 03:10 PM
That's just the thing, there's no real incentive to buy this version of Jango.  I would have been happy with a repaint of the Boba Pit of Carkoon fig with the rocket base.  That would have been different, at least.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on November 10, 2005, 09:54 AM
According to some info I got from EE this morning, here's how the case assortment looks:

Star Wars Saga Collection Action Figures Wave 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C):
1x Clone Trooper
1x Sora Bulq
1x Jango Fett
1x Scorch (Republic Commando)
2x Sun Fac
2x C-3PO/Battle Droid
2x Poggle the Lesser
2x Yoda

And no, I'm not kidding.  This is what EE sent over today (should be up for order on the website today).

2x Sun Fac and 2x Poggle, while the Commando and Jedi are at 1x.   ::)

Interesting to note that EE has a Clone Trooper listed there despite it not showing up on Hasbro's list Tuesday.  Hmmm.....


Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2005, 10:08 AM
That Clonetrooper listing is interesting.  Thanks for the info Jeff.  The case pack stinks if that is what it turns out to be though.  The figure I want most out of that wave, Sora Bulq, is 1 per case and so is the likely to be popular Clone Commando/Scorch.  I expect there will be quite a few green buggies hanging on the pegs after this wave hits.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Famine on November 10, 2005, 11:25 AM
What the ****. Seriously, would it kill them to go: x2 clone, x2 sora, 1 jango, x3 scorch, x1 c3po, 1 yoda, 2 poggle, 2 sun fac???

Of course it would.

Kevin
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on November 10, 2005, 11:46 AM
1xRepublic Commando!!

Someone please explain the rationale behind this decision!


Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: OT Freak on November 10, 2005, 12:22 PM
Hasbro still can't figure out assortments. I guess they figure kids will want that crap @ss 3PO. It better come with 3PO's head.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on November 10, 2005, 12:53 PM
Star Wars Saga Collection Action Figures Wave 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C):
1x Clone Trooper
1x Sora Bulq
1x Jango Fett
1x Scorch (Republic Commando)
2x Sun Fac
2x C-3PO/Battle Droid
2x Poggle the Lesser
2x Yoda

Amazing. The only thing right in that breakdown is Jango at x1. This wave is going to do two things:

1) Be over-ordered because the first and second Saga waves will sell well.
2) Sit on the shelf because people know **** when they see it.

And we're going to be swimming in Poggles and 3PO's for the rest of the year. I hope this breakdown changes real quick like.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: LandotheScoundrel on November 10, 2005, 02:13 PM
I bet the Commando turned out badly (like ****** articulation, bad execution) and they're packing it 1 per case because they think it'll flop. But of course, they wouldn't use that same rationale to pack C-3PO with battledroid head at 1 per case.  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 10, 2005, 02:45 PM
According to some info I got from EE this morning, here's how the case assortment looks:

Star Wars Saga Collection Action Figures Wave 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C):
1x Clone Trooper
1x Sora Bulq
1x Jango Fett
1x Scorch (Republic Commando)
2x Sun Fac
2x C-3PO/Battle Droid
2x Poggle the Lesser
2x Yoda

How can Hasbro still have their heads so far up their asses to only pack the Clone and Commando as 1 per case?  Mind boggling.

(http://images.entertainmentearth.com//AUTOIMAGES/HS85770Clg.jpg)

EE describes the mysterious Clone has an orange Utapaun Clone Trooper.

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Xander on November 10, 2005, 02:47 PM
Alright, packing in those C-3POs for army builders!  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on November 10, 2005, 02:48 PM
The Utapau trooper... and they pack him one per case.  You know, this is really amateur hour on Hasbro's part.  Seriously.  No fan boy whining or hyperbole here.  They slip the most anticipated clone next year into a turkey assortment, with gonzo pack outs, and they will end up jerking around a lot of collectors.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on November 10, 2005, 03:00 PM
(http://images.entertainmentearth.com//AUTOIMAGES/HS85770Clg.jpg)

EE describes the mysterious Clone has an orange Utapaun Clone Trooper.

Utapua Clone Trooper!!!  Cool beans!  The fact that he is 1x per case is major suckage!   >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2005, 03:03 PM
I pop back into this thread and see the picture of that great Utapau trooper, and then see that its in this sucktastic wave packed 1 per case.  Blimey!  At least we're getting one, and I really hope it won't be too tough to find.  I really like these ROTS troops, keep bringing 'em on ;).
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on November 10, 2005, 03:13 PM
Utapau trooper in the Geonosis wave--big WTF? Now, think about that. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE! Why would a Wookiee—an eight foot tall Wookiee—want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/ValinKenobi/Forums/chewbaccadefense.jpg)

Sorry ... where was I again? ;) Oh yeah ... Utapau trooper on Geonosis makes no sense ... and anyway, 1x per case--ditto WTF? ??? ::)

Also, it looks like Yoda will come with a removable robe.

I'm still very much looking forward to this wave more than any of the others, with the possible exception of the Coruscant wave.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Famine on November 10, 2005, 03:16 PM
Utapau...not...Geonosis...

I'll still take it and won't complain.

Kevin
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 10, 2005, 03:18 PM

I doubt Hasbro would have completely forgotten a figure in their official update, so I'm guessing that figure either won't be made or will be found in another wave.



Hah!  I looks like I'll have to eat my words.  I thought Hasbro was a little more on top of things than to forget a Clone.   ::)

So not only did Hasbro completely forget to mention this clone in their official news, but they're also packing him 1x case.  Assclowns.

Since I highly doubt they are using a new sculpt for the Clone, which sculpt is that?  #6 from ROTS?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2005, 03:20 PM
Quote
Since I highly doubt they are using a new sculpt for the Clone, which sculpt is that?  #6 from ROTS?

I kind of thought that is what it looked like too.  The "removable" shoulder pad thing seems to be present in that picture, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on November 10, 2005, 03:21 PM
The "removable" shoulder pad thing seems to be present in that picture, but I could be wrong.

That's what I used for my decision too.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on November 10, 2005, 03:21 PM
One per case?  Here we go again...

But a great addition and it looks very nice.

But one damn Clone per case???

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rob on November 10, 2005, 03:45 PM
That's bizzare - but at least it makes a medicore wave into a semi-decent one.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on November 10, 2005, 03:50 PM
That's bizzare - but at least it makes a medicore wave into a semi-decent one.

I'm guessing that the only reason this Clone is in this wave is because Cody is in the next wave and this Clone will continue to ship with the Coruscant Wave.   I think they are just slipping it out early with the Geo wave so they get enough of them out there...  or at least that's my hopeful side talking. 

I hate to imagine having to track down my five (1 carded, 4 loose) if they are 1x per case for only one wave.   :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on November 10, 2005, 04:06 PM
I have a conspiracy theory of my own:

The bizarre / insane case breakdowns are designed to encourage collectors to order full cases from EE.com.

There's no reason to look for the clones at retail - see the 501st and shock trooper.



Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on November 10, 2005, 04:11 PM
Well, ****.

I hope you're right, Jeff. If it's sort of a wave 4 preview, then it makes  would be a smart move. Though I don't see any other evidence of intelligence being applied to this wave, so I'll wait to see a case ratio of the next wave to believe it.

If this ships at one per case, and doesn't get a refresh right away, the Geonosis wave is going to turn from a lame wave into an infuriating wave.

It's a bit too hard to tell from the pic, but the eternally uncorrrected upside down belt might be present on the pic. Hopefully it's the SA Clone for real this time.

But I'll expect the worst, and assume the final product will actually be a repaint of the original Saga clone with a ROTS helmet on it.  That would fit this wave perfectly.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Victor_Von_Doom on November 10, 2005, 05:10 PM
According to some info I got from EE this morning, here's how the case assortment looks:

Star Wars Saga Collection Action Figures Wave 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C):
1x Clone Trooper
1x Sora Bulq
1x Jango Fett
1x Scorch (Republic Commando)
2x Sun Fac
2x C-3PO/Battle Droid
2x Poggle the Lesser
2x Yoda

How can Hasbro still have their heads so far up their asses to only pack the Clone and Commando as 1 per case?  Mind boggling.

(http://images.entertainmentearth.com//AUTOIMAGES/HS85770Clg.jpg)

EE describes the mysterious Clone has an orange Utapaun Clone Trooper.



I agree. What the hell is Hasbro thinking. They have to know that those two and Sora Bulq are the ones we want the most (+ Sun Fac). So why are they shortpacked?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on November 10, 2005, 05:51 PM
The Utapau clone looks like the AT-TE Gunner sculpt.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: rishakra on November 10, 2005, 06:07 PM
I think it's the #41 sculpt.  Either way I'd rather just go get 2 #41s and make my own...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on November 10, 2005, 06:38 PM
You can easily tell that is the #41 sculpt. He has an upside-down belt. Whether or not we actually get that body has yet to be detemined....

I'm really looking forward to Sora Bulq and Sun Fac. They both look like good figures.

I was floored when I saw the first commando pics, I wanted tons of them. But like everyone else the more I look the less articulation I see, and the fewwer I want. :-\

I'm glad we are gettin a clone but why we got this one instead of a CW/EE clone I have no idea, but I'll shut up cause we are at least getting something.

Poggle is a good figure but I don't need more, the other repacks as well as whoever decided on the case assortment can eat a dick. >:(  It really isn't that hard to come up with a decent case assortment, I don't think these people do any research on what they are selling. If they'd have just walked into a Wal-Mart occasionally, they'd notice there are no clones, or very few, and that Yodas, geonosians, that crap 3PO, and Jangos do nothing but pegwarm.

Hasbro should really fire the idiot that came up with that one.... oh wait, they are all a bunch of dumbfucks. ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Diddly on November 10, 2005, 07:10 PM
Utapau Clone, very odd. As said countless times, this would be the PERFECT opportunity to rerelease the Clone Wars SA Clone. But oh well, it's a "new" Clone, and I'm biting. :-\

And what is up with that case assortment? :-X
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on November 10, 2005, 07:35 PM
Hopefully it will not be 1 per case.  Hasbro can't be THAT dumb.  Oh wait, the Red Shocktrooper is also 1 per case.  I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on November 10, 2005, 08:56 PM
I was watching The Colbert Report on Comedy Central the other day and man there was a great quote about Hasbro on it that I just can't recall.  Dammit, it was so appropriate to this moment too.   >:(

2006 could be a great year or it could turn into a huge cluster****.  I know I've never seen a Shocktrooper on pegs and 501st troops I have yet to see either, thanks to Hasbro lovely case ratios.

Hell, I barely saw AT-TE Gunners or Red Commanders and the SA Clone is only NOW starting to sit any ammount of time, so I'm not holding out hope for "smart" clone mixing in the future from Hasbro.  They've given no precedent that they will do this right.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on November 10, 2005, 10:32 PM
I have a conspiracy theory of my own:

The bizarre / insane case breakdowns are designed to encourage collectors to order full cases from EE.com.

There's no reason to look for the clones at retail - see the 501st and shock trooper.


I would totally buy a few cases of this wave but I don't wanna get stuck with Yodas, 3POs, and Geonosians. The Jangos I can use for customizing if I get stuck with them.

Hasbro is blatent on how they make their assortments. But Im still confused as to why the Utapau Clone wasn't released in the final 12 and is now being released in a wave from a totally different movie. So now I guess we can expect a SA Qui Gon Jinn in a ROTJ themed wave?  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SpudTrooper on November 10, 2005, 10:39 PM
The Utapau clone looks like the AT-TE Gunner sculpt.

i think its the #41 scuplt as well. the AT-TE Gunner has wider thighs..so SA = YES!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ben on November 11, 2005, 01:34 AM
Two in-demand Clones.


At one per case each.


You have got to be ******** me. Now I'm reminded why I wanted to quit.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 11, 2005, 10:11 AM
Believe it or not, I can almost see Jango, Yoda and to a lesser extent 3PO at 2 per case. They are main characters after all and will sell to the kids when we leave them behind. But, Poggle? He's going to peg warm very hard.

Also, if were getting the Utapau clone in this assortment, then which clone will we get in the Courescant assortment?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: jedistyle on November 19, 2005, 08:21 PM
the utapau clone in that picture is a #41 sa clone. if you look at the belt around his waist, you can see that it isn't molded to the figure, like the # 6's, then if you look closley right above the belt, you can see the shaddow of the 2 seperate pieces in the torso articulation. it seems to be just the angle of the arm that makes the removable shoulder pad look like it's there, but i'm pretty sure it's a #41, at least in that picture. hasbro may very well use the #6 though. i'm gunna keep hoping they use a #41 anyhow!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Diddly on November 19, 2005, 11:13 PM
Hey, they added a picture of cloaked Yoda in that picture...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on November 20, 2005, 03:50 AM
Once again Hasbro screws it up with case ratio's! Here's hoping they revisit that decision. 
I'm not going to comment on what Clone Body is being used for the Utapaun Clone. I learned from the Tactical Ops Clone not to count my clones until they are hatched.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Commander on December 8, 2005, 11:57 PM
I am gonna love gettin the Jangos!
I like the clones and I cant wait for scortch.
I cant really complain because I am probably not going to get any clones this time around.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 9, 2005, 09:54 AM
Once again Hasbro screws it up with case ratio's! Here's hoping they revisit that decision. 
I'm not going to comment on what Clone Body is being used for the Utapaun Clone. I learned from the Tactical Ops Clone not to count my clones until they are hatched.

I donno if the case ratio is that bad. I think it's designed to sell the whole case which means, there might not be a lot of clones in the case, but stores should get lots of cases to make lots of clones.

Also, I think the fiasco surrounding Tactical Ops clone was an anomaly. Once we get the pictures were getting now, I think it all but locks it up.

But, I have been wrong before. ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on December 9, 2005, 10:02 AM
Another thing to consider is that this is just the initial case assortment.  Hasbro seems to be following the "revised cases" path they used this year...

For example, the Carkoon case now has 2 differnt cases available.  First was the Wave 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770A) case, which has an uneven mix, and now there is also a Wave 1 Rev. 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770A) case that has an even 2x each figure case pack.

I'd guess the current case pack is just the first one and at least one other case mix is planned, we just have to wait and see...

 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on December 10, 2005, 01:47 AM
I just think it would be plain asinine to not pack both clones heavy in this.  Grrrrr...

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on December 10, 2005, 04:52 AM
Yup, that's Hasbro's plan of action. :)  It's that same strategy they've been running with since...  oh...  the beginning.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jediknight760071 on December 11, 2005, 04:24 PM
Does anyone else find something odd about Scorch? It could be just a bad angle, but that DC-17 seems way too big, and his helmet seems way too flat. I just bought and beat Republic Commando and the figure doesn't seem so familiar to me. RickyUK's version seemed far better IMO.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on December 12, 2005, 07:06 PM
Yep, it's odd looking.  I just thought it was odd looking because it's from a videogame though. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: speedermike on December 12, 2005, 09:47 PM
Yeah.  I agree that it's odd becuase it's from a game.  The gun looks out of place becuase no where in any of the films does any character carry any weapon that is that "techy" looking.   Same thing with his backpack and what looks like an antenna. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on December 12, 2005, 10:57 PM
I have given it time and I have not changed my mind. Scorch is not for me! That will be a very easy pass still! I think he looks bulky, ugly and non-Star Wars. Unlike ROTS, Hasbro has to earn my business this year and this figure just does not make the cut in my book.  More money for other clones that hopefully are worthy! I still am going to buy up more SA 41's for customs. Now if I only had the time to custom!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on December 13, 2005, 01:46 AM
I think he looks alright except for the paint. It just looks too garish and "cartoonish". Hopefully the final version will be more subdued and accurate.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on December 13, 2005, 03:18 AM
I think he looks like the character from the game, which is good, but something to consider is that Republic Commando DEFINITELY didn't go for realism throughout.  NOt to say that I don't like the Clone designs, they're supposed to be unique and bulky actually, and their gun in the game is a modular design that has pieces that snap off and snap on to make it a sniper rifle, grenade launcher, etc...  It's definitely not an Stormie rifle. :)

That said, the game's designers had a cartoony look to a LOT of the game.  Geonosians didn't look like in the movie.  Trandoshans were comically big or short/squat.  Wookiee's were freaking massive at all times, no variation in size.  And of course, Super Battle Droids were practically indestructable while in the film they dropped like flies, and BD's/SBD's seemed to have a cartoonish look to them rather than a film accurate look.

Basically the game didn't do shooters much justice I felt.  It was an ok game, but they threw realism out the window whereas games like Jedi Knight, Dark Forces, X-Wing/TIE Fighter, and the like all strived for utmost realism based on what they were able to acheive with gaming engines.

Given what realistic games I've played on X-Box, Rep. Commando was going for a bit of a "kiddie" vibe, trying to make colorful characters, oversized enemies and the like while keeping gameplay kind of cool.  In the end, I don't like the look from the game TOO much.

I do like the figure from what I see, but if he's lacking articulation (and for some reason I have a strong feeling he is), that'll be what nixes me wanting many of him.  Hasbro could really wow people with the Commandoes if they wanted to though.  If the gun actually snapped apart, that'd be rocking...  Without some super articulation though, they're gonna blow I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on December 13, 2005, 03:36 AM
Well give me all the Scorches you guys don't want. :P

He isn't perfect but he has custom fodder potential. The head and parts of the armor could be used to make a better more articulated versions, and hell dirty his paint jjob up a bit and you have a more realistic looking figure. Granted those are the kinds of this Hasbro should be doing for us... but I rather enjoy customizing so this should give me something to do. :)

I for one really like the DC-17, I think it is a great change of pace from the standard issue clone guns we have.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on December 13, 2005, 03:39 AM
I liked the Commando guns too Ryan, that's why I was sorta defending them.

SW is filled with small guns, but I'm sure it's equally filled with big bulky BFG's too.  The Sandtroopers had that giant ass cannon to mow people down with, so Commandoes must be packin' a devastatingly efficient gun too I figure.  The modular design was a nice in-game way of giving you an answer as to how a trooper "carries all those guns".  Something gaming has struggled with explaining in a realistic fashion, and yet you still have all those kick ass weapons to use in the game.  Cool beans!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on December 15, 2005, 11:43 AM
Sorry if this has been mentioned... but does anyone think we might see color variants on the Commando?

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jayson on December 15, 2005, 11:46 AM
I'd bet on it
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 1, 2006, 11:14 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned... but does anyone think we might see color variants on the Commando?

 :P

If the #6 clone and SA clone being re-released as shock troopers, 501st, and Utapau clone are any indication, I'd say we're gonna see them within a year's time.  I can't see Hasbro just releasing 1 of the 4 Republic Commandos.  At least, let's hope!  Having all 4 of these guys will rock.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on January 1, 2006, 11:51 PM
I'm almost hoping they don't just repaint the figure though.  There were differences in each one's gear and little extras on the armor and such as I recall...  I could be wrong though. 

I could see the figure being a base though that they add the appropriate gear and paintjob too.  That'd be just fine by me.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone On Fire on January 6, 2006, 09:50 AM
It doesn't make sense to make just 1 of the 4.  The other 3 are coming.  I wouldn't be shocked to see a 4 pack though that includes Scorch that was already released.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 6, 2006, 05:11 PM
Hah -that's exactly why I think we're only seeing one...hmmmm a diamond comics or EE exclusive 4 pack is Likely!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rune Haako on January 8, 2006, 11:31 AM
Carded pics!

http://www.chinese-starwars.com/chineseforum/viewtopic.php?t=4445
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 8, 2006, 11:43 AM
Carded pics!

http://www.chinese-starwars.com/chineseforum/viewtopic.php?t=4445

I foresee many pegs of dusty C3P0 w/ battle droid heads and Yodas.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 8, 2006, 12:24 PM
I foresee many pegs of dusty C3P0 w/ battle droid heads and Yodas.

Agreed.  That is one of the worst Yoda figures ever released.  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SpudTrooper on January 8, 2006, 01:11 PM
(http://chinese-starwars.com/chineseforum/upload_images/678771319_1_.jpg)

cant wait to get a WHOLE lot of these  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on January 8, 2006, 03:04 PM
Those look awesome. Really looking forward to Scorch and Sora Bulq. Hopefully I'll be able to find them.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on January 8, 2006, 03:39 PM
Scorch looks uber-cool, and it's nice Hasbros putting Expanded Universe on the cardback.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on January 8, 2006, 03:50 PM
The 'gumbo' wave... a little Geonosis, Utapau, EU... anyways, they look good on cards.  Still feeling blah about this group, except for Cody's clone of course.  I'll get Scorch and Sora Bulq, too, although his head looks a little oversized, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on January 8, 2006, 06:40 PM
I'm pretty blah on this way too, with the exception of the Clone grunt. It's looks to have the most screen accurate paintjob to date. Great stuff. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Commander on January 8, 2006, 10:23 PM
Agreed, he is very nice.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on January 8, 2006, 11:01 PM
I think the Sora Bulq carded is one of the coolest looking carded figures with all of those Jedi from the Arena on Geonosis engaged in battle in the background.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on January 9, 2006, 07:21 AM
This thing's starting to grow on me:

(http://chinese-starwars.com/chineseforum/upload_images/687793649.jpg)

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 9, 2006, 09:55 AM
Nice to see more carded pictures, but can't say I'm rally excited about these either. The Clone and Jedi look great, the others, I donno. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on January 9, 2006, 01:51 PM
It's tough to tell from the 3P0 if the paint job is an improvement over the deluxe version. Hopefully it will be. I'd really like a good AOTC 3P0.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Diddly on January 9, 2006, 03:04 PM
It looks the same to me. But I'm passing on it anyway, so meh.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on January 9, 2006, 03:23 PM
The presentation on all these cards is really nice, but these repacks are still stinkers. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on January 9, 2006, 03:48 PM
Agreed.  That is one of the worst Yoda figures ever released.  ::)

Yeah, the prequel Yodas have all been **** so far. Too bad that new card looks so tasty. The repacks are terrible in this wave but those cardbacks have the OTC curse of making even unwanted figures appealing to keep carded.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 28, 2006, 11:42 AM
E-tailers seem to be getting these in stock from overseas. I guess this means we'll be seeing this wave in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on January 30, 2006, 07:04 AM
Silliness from elsewhere:
Quote
It would've been nice if Sora could fit in with the other Jedi articulation wise but it's no huge loss is it? Sure it sucks but all he does is stand around.

I read this and just had to scratch my head...  It's not a huge loss huh?  Interesting way of looking at a Jedi that now severely lacks in the poseability department, especially when we reflect on the absolutely incredible line-up of Jedi we got in 2005...  I for one am disappointed.  And with Sora Bulq apparantly having ball/socket ankles, I'm that much more disappointed to know he has no knee articulation...

But, the kicker in the quote is that apparantly I missed the part of AOTC where the Jedi just stood there and took it up the ass from the Battledroids in the arena...  How can anyone say that the Jedi "just stood there" in the movie, so the knee joints just aren't important now?  If you don't care, you don't care, but when you rationalize it by making a statement so blatantly ass backwards, I just have to scratch my head how anyone would take this person seriously when they type anything out on a forum...  Yet this guy's "god" and we gotta deal with it I hear.   ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rune Haako on January 31, 2006, 10:31 PM
Loose pics of Scorch here,

(http://www.mrmforce.com/scorch1.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/scorch2.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/scorch5.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/scorch11.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/scorch15.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/scorch16.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/scorch25.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/scorch26.JPG)

{Just edited to save pissing with looking through elsewhere...  easier to just look here, thanks Rune for the head's up)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Diddly on January 31, 2006, 10:47 PM
So Scorch has what appears to be the new standard for articulation, a great upper body, but non articulated legs. Disappointing, especially for a potential army builder. Ah well, I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rune Haako on January 31, 2006, 11:09 PM
Utapau Clone loose pics,

(http://www.mrmforce.com/clone4.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/clone7.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/clone8.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/clone14.JPG)

(http://www.mrmforce.com/clone16.JPG)

(Edited same as before is all, thanks Rune)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on January 31, 2006, 11:48 PM
The Utapau grunt looks fantastic.  I'm completely happy except that once again he obviously doesn't come with the rifle and it's getting sorta comical that Hasbro won't give us the rifle...  It's the most seen weapon the Clones have but yet most of us have them in limited supply, haha.  :)

I've been scarfing up loose ones I see at Toy Shows just to try and outfit my troops...  The paintjob is one of Hasbro's more heavily weathered but it looks good I think. 

The Republic Commando's a huge disappointment in that this, an army builder extrordinaire, has such limited leg articulation.  The upper body's fantastic, the sculpt's good I think...  I like the gear.  Hasbro taking the dickishly cheap route by not articulating the legs any better than a 1983 Star Wars figure though, is just ****** on their part.

What the hell happened to toys with this company?  Every toy line in this scale has 10 times the articulation Hasbro does at this point...  2006 has seen a huge regression in quality simply because Hasbro's cut back on articulation I'm afraid.  Till it changes, a lot of figures get a disappointing rating from me...  Just put some F'n knee joints on the figure and let's get back to the quality we were seeing in 2005 for the most part.  Figures like Veers or Derlin have been disappionting, but a Clone Commando is a HUGE disappointment when the articulation's cut like this at the legs. 

They're so close to perfect in my eyes, and yet they're so far simply because of this.  This blows, but was expected so it's not a huge shock at this piont, it's just  dejecting about the line overall at this point.  I want action figures, not statues... 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 1, 2006, 10:07 AM
Thanks for posting the those pictures Rune. Nice to know that Scorch at least has ball jointed elbows. :D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rune Haako on February 1, 2006, 11:15 AM
Sun Fac

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC016sunfac10.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC016sunfac14.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC016sunfac17.jpg)

More here,

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Details_On_SAGA016_Sun_Fac_96831.asp
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SpudTrooper on February 1, 2006, 08:42 PM
YES! SA on Utapuan trooper and Scorch!  8)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 1, 2006, 11:27 PM
not on scorch(SA). has no knee articulation
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ghost of QG on February 2, 2006, 01:48 AM
IMO the Scorch looks good enough w/o the knee articulation to get him. Will probably grab multiples of him to customize, as well as multiples of the Utapau clone.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2006, 03:00 AM
YES! SA on Utapuan trooper and Scorch!  8)

Yeah, unfortunately Scorch got the screwjob by Hasbro on knee joints.  Which is so ****** of them considering this is, without a doubt, an army builder figure by most people's standards I think.

I'm pleased with his looks, he's quite accurate, but knee articulation is a big omission for his poseability I'm afraid.  To be honest I'd sooner have seen this figure with angle-cut elbow joints and ball/socket knees than ball/socket elbow joints and no knee articulation.  That's a really big disappointment for me I'm afraid.  :(

On a happier note, Sun Fac has turned out to kick much ass.  He's seemingly the best Geonosian figure ever and I was probably in the vast minority who was hoping we'd get a new Geonosian at some point.  I HOPE his plastic holds his weight...  With that fear sort of aside and me just holding hope on him being quality, I can safely say if he is sturdy I'll buy multiples happily.  I will hang onto my current Geo's too, but they all fall eventually ti seems, while Sun Fac looks like just a dandy army builder for Clones to butcher. :)

But yeah, I'm pretty disappointed with Scorch, but so far I've been pretty bummed to see very few figures getting good articulation.  We're stuck in 1983 apparantly at Hasbro's design tables because Derlin, Veers, Scorch, Han Carbonite...  All a bit more limited in articulation than I was hoping for.  I guess 2005 was too good to be true for hoping that the line overall was turning for the better as far as articulation goes.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on February 2, 2006, 04:42 AM
They have Sora Bulq up now.  He looks pretty good, decent articulation (no knee joints, which seems to be a theme this year) but his head looks very oversized to me.

I'm torn on Sun Fac.  He turned out great, I like the bugs, but he's so completely not on any list of characters I care about. 

I may actually skip Scorch.  I've been very very selective this year so far, and the Coruscant will be a big wave for me, so I may be more choosy than normal.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2006, 05:45 AM
Yeah, Sora I knew didn't have knee joints by his early photo so I'll add him to my list of the disappointing.  It's tough to look at him, and then look at every secondary Jedi we got in 2005, and not think that this is somehow a let down on some level.

Great sculpt though and I like having some Weequay diversity in their looks.  It's good for customizing.  And it's not that Sora's horrible either as a figure.  Great sculpt overall, good upper body articulation too (looks like SA everywhere but the legs...  This is a ****** trend, if it is indeed a trend for this year).

I'd be lying if I said this figure ultimately made me happy though.  It's ok...  It sucks compared to Agen Kolar, or Kit Fisto, or Shaak Ti, or Luminara Unduli, or other members of his peer group.  He'll just not be quite as good or fun to mess around with as the other Jedi figures.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 2, 2006, 09:54 AM
Wouldn't Sora be an easy custom? Just give him some new articulated legs?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 2, 2006, 10:41 AM
I am sooo looking forward to this wave!

Can't wait to load up on the clone grunt, Commader Cody and Scorch!

Best wave so far IMO!

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Annatar on February 2, 2006, 04:18 PM
The RC's head looks oddly large. I may pass on it. Sun Fac is looking sweet though.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on February 2, 2006, 05:01 PM
The Utapau grunt looks fantastic.  I'm completely happy except that once again he obviously doesn't come with the rifle and it's getting sorta comical that Hasbro won't give us the rifle...  It's the most seen weapon the Clones have but yet most of us have them in limited supply, haha.  :)


Actually, in ROTS all most all of the clones used the shorter rifle, not the bigger one.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2006, 03:52 AM
Wouldn't Sora be an easy custom? Just give him some new articulated legs?

I wouldn't say anything is easy...  If you gotta fix it, it's not good IMO.  :)  To give him articulated knees, without painting, you'd have to find knees that match his pants already on another figure...  Pop 'em off that one, cut the legs off Sora and dremel into his leg a hole for the pin on the other knees...

Short of paint matching and sculpt matching up, that's about as easy as it could be, but that's still a lot more work than I wanna do plus it's at the cost of another figure, so even as a customizer I look really negatively on this.  Sora should've just had articulated knees...  Hell, make his arms angle-cut elbows and give him the knees, but just give him the knees. :)

EDIT:

By the way Hunter I decided to check out hte Clones in ROTS, as I'd wanted to kind of anally slow-mo the DVD anyway and just look at all the little details I haven't seen...  I don't agree that the Carbine has overtaken the blaster rifle as the most common Clone blaster though...  It's more prominent though in ROTS than it was in AOTC.  It was barely noticeable in AOTC actually.

In ROTS though I looked at a couple key Clonie moments to decide...  Only on Felucia did the Carbine seem to outnumber the Rifle...  Ironically it's the Commander on Fellucia with the rifle while all his squadmates that kill Aylya have the Carbine.

Anyway, I checked out a couple other sequences for a couple areas and I came to these conclusions...

-Utapau...  The opening Clones (down the zip lines) all have Carbines, however after that it's not a landslide of rifles but there are definitley more riflemen.  Lots of Carbines in there too though, but the Rifles become more prominent.  For instance most Cody scenes have landings of squads on Gunships and almost every Clone in the gunships is coming out with a rifle.  Cody's also surrounded by guys with rifles and only a carbine here and there.

When the trooper is gunning the Crabdroids, he's using a Carbine but Slow-Mo showed most around him had rifles.  There are a ton of Carbines too, just that I see more Rifles by my eye.

Utapau has the most footage to watch...  There's lots of both types of weapon seen for sure here.  I thought it was the most interesting to sort of analyze.  Actually too I was really taken by how incredibly detailed the streets of the subterannean cities of Utapau were.  There's tons of detail there, like even roadsigns it seems.  Really cool to sit and just ogle all the detail.

-Fellucia...  Tough to see a lot since it only zooms in close to Bly and his troops but Bly's the only guy with a rifle, everyone else had Carbines that I saw.

-Mygeeto...  I think ONE guy near Bacarra has a Carbine, and Bacarra has one, but it seems to me that every other grunt around Bacarra when he cuts down Mundi has a rifle that I can see.  There's some odd background shots that it's tough to judge but I see a mix...  I can see Rifles for sure, but I also see a seemingly equal number running with Carbines.

-Kashyyyk...  Kashyyyk was the weirdest...  The first site of Clones is really the beach preparations.  In the shots there you don't see many Rifles at all, mostly just Carbines.  I think I saw a rifle here and there but not much.

Cut to the battle though, and the beach has still mostly Carbines but Rifles are much more noticeable...  Not a lot, but more for certain.  Also, ALL the Clones up in the tree branches and higher positions are sporting rifles, not a Carbine among them, which makes perfect sense militarily since the rifle would be the more accurate weapon by all accounts.

So anyway, I was sorta curious about this anyway so I decided to look into it...  I don't think the Carbine's overtaken the Rifle by a long shot then based on what I saw but I also think the Carbine's a lot more prominent for sure.  I'm all for it being included with figures, but at this point I think the mass shortage of rifles between the AOTC styled clones not coming with them and the #41 SA not coming wth them is a big hole...  I wish Hasbro would fill it by packing in the rifles with Clones so you could decide what gun they get.  I'm definitely on a shortage of rifles at this point.  Extra commanders I bought have helped fill holes but not a lot, especially with the EE Clone 4-packs needing rifles too.   :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 3, 2006, 09:20 AM
Ahh, you gotta love the uninformed scalpers. I usualy stop at two targets on the way home from dropping my Daughter off at school. Yesterday, there was a scalper at each telling me that this wave has hit. When asked where they've seen it, one said Frank and Sons, the other said ebay. Knowing these sighting mean these are weeks away I said, okay. Thanks. ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: jedipurge on February 3, 2006, 03:04 PM
hey Jesse I went in slow mo for most of the battle scenes too and it is awesome to see all the little details that you miss when it's in regular speed.  But did you notice on Utapau the clone that jumps up on the crab changes.  you see a behind shot of him right before he runs up on it and he has these extra little do dads on his back that he doesn't have after he shoots the crab droid and turns.  on to my thoughts about this wave.  Articulation is seriously lacking in these newer waves.  I thought at first that some of these were just left overs from the last bits of the OTC waves, but this doesn't seem to be the case anymore.  it pisses me off that the other day I bought at Target the latest wave of Marvel Legends for $6.89 and they have what 30 some points of articulation and a pretty killer paint job, while these newer wave of star wars might be lucking to get 8 pionts of articulation and they're more expensive. >:(  sorry about the ranting.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on February 4, 2006, 04:25 PM
Wouldn't Sora be an easy custom? Just give him some new articulated legs?

I wouldn't say anything is easy...  If you gotta fix it, it's not good IMO.  :)  To give him articulated knees, without painting, you'd have to find knees that match his pants already on another figure...  Pop 'em off that one, cut the legs off Sora and dremel into his leg a hole for the pin on the other knees...

Short of paint matching and sculpt matching up, that's about as easy as it could be, but that's still a lot more work than I wanna do plus it's at the cost of another figure, so even as a customizer I look really negatively on this.  Sora should've just had articulated knees...  Hell, make his arms angle-cut elbows and give him the knees, but just give him the knees. :)

EDIT:

By the way Hunter I decided to check out hte Clones in ROTS, as I'd wanted to kind of anally slow-mo the DVD anyway and just look at all the little details I haven't seen...  I don't agree that the Carbine has overtaken the blaster rifle as the most common Clone blaster though...  It's more prominent though in ROTS than it was in AOTC.  It was barely noticeable in AOTC actually.

In ROTS though I looked at a couple key Clonie moments to decide...  Only on Felucia did the Carbine seem to outnumber the Rifle...  Ironically it's the Commander on Fellucia with the rifle while all his squadmates that kill Aylya have the Carbine.

Anyway, I checked out a couple other sequences for a couple areas and I came to these conclusions...

-Utapau...  The opening Clones (down the zip lines) all have Carbines, however after that it's not a landslide of rifles but there are definitley more riflemen.  Lots of Carbines in there too though, but the Rifles become more prominent.  For instance most Cody scenes have landings of squads on Gunships and almost every Clone in the gunships is coming out with a rifle.  Cody's also surrounded by guys with rifles and only a carbine here and there.

When the trooper is gunning the Crabdroids, he's using a Carbine but Slow-Mo showed most around him had rifles.  There are a ton of Carbines too, just that I see more Rifles by my eye.

Utapau has the most footage to watch...  There's lots of both types of weapon seen for sure here.  I thought it was the most interesting to sort of analyze.  Actually too I was really taken by how incredibly detailed the streets of the subterannean cities of Utapau were.  There's tons of detail there, like even roadsigns it seems.  Really cool to sit and just ogle all the detail.

-Fellucia...  Tough to see a lot since it only zooms in close to Bly and his troops but Bly's the only guy with a rifle, everyone else had Carbines that I saw.

-Mygeeto...  I think ONE guy near Bacarra has a Carbine, and Bacarra has one, but it seems to me that every other grunt around Bacarra when he cuts down Mundi has a rifle that I can see.  There's some odd background shots that it's tough to judge but I see a mix...  I can see Rifles for sure, but I also see a seemingly equal number running with Carbines.

-Kashyyyk...  Kashyyyk was the weirdest...  The first site of Clones is really the beach preparations.  In the shots there you don't see many Rifles at all, mostly just Carbines.  I think I saw a rifle here and there but not much.

Cut to the battle though, and the beach has still mostly Carbines but Rifles are much more noticeable...  Not a lot, but more for certain.  Also, ALL the Clones up in the tree branches and higher positions are sporting rifles, not a Carbine among them, which makes perfect sense militarily since the rifle would be the more accurate weapon by all accounts.

So anyway, I was sorta curious about this anyway so I decided to look into it...  I don't think the Carbine's overtaken the Rifle by a long shot then based on what I saw but I also think the Carbine's a lot more prominent for sure.  I'm all for it being included with figures, but at this point I think the mass shortage of rifles between the AOTC styled clones not coming with them and the #41 SA not coming wth them is a big hole...  I wish Hasbro would fill it by packing in the rifles with Clones so you could decide what gun they get.  I'm definitely on a shortage of rifles at this point.  Extra commanders I bought have helped fill holes but not a lot, especially with the EE Clone 4-packs needing rifles too.   :-\

You forgot the 501st and Palpy's Shockys. I noticed most 501st Stormies in the opening "March" sequence right behind Vader had Carbines, but about 3 had Rifles. All the Stormies on the landing pad talking to Bail had carbines also. On Mustafar the two Shockys both had Carbines, and on the senate pod 2/3 of the Shockys had carbines, one had a rifle.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: bluesnaggletooth1 on February 4, 2006, 04:54 PM
Ahh, you gotta love the uninformed scalpers. I usualy stop at two targets on the way home from dropping my Daughter off at school. Yesterday, there was a scalper at each telling me that this wave has hit. When asked where they've seen it, one said Frank and Sons, the other said ebay. Knowing these sighting mean these are weeks away I said, okay. Thanks. ;)

Gotta love LA Scalpers...the dumbest of the dumb.

Snags
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 7, 2006, 02:12 AM
Hunter,

I didn't watch the shockies but off memory I know the two on Mustafar had carbines while I can't recall the Senate Pod well enough to remember.  :( 

The 501st march on the temple I did watch though, just didn't comment on because it was short.  I didn't watch them tearing up the temple or the guards left outside to comment.  On the march, I noticed fewer carbines though, but the scene is quick too and not real broad looking at them head-on.  The overhead shots I think I see more rifles than carbines but it's tough to judge it accurately too.  I know the scene with the row behind anakin shows at least one with a carbine in sort ofthe middle when the shot pans overhead, and rifles on either side if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on February 7, 2006, 07:24 PM
It's nice to see the carded figures! Still a bit disappointed with it though. I was excited about Sora Bulq, but with his knees w/o articulation, it's reminiscent of the E2 figures. The only one I really want is the Utapau clone (no surprise). I don't know why the Geonosian pair are bright green?? The other figures are so-so, or I've already got them.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on February 7, 2006, 10:54 PM
So who's in this wave? I've seen 2 or 3 different variations on the assortment and I need to know who I'm hunting at retail? ???
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on February 7, 2006, 11:22 PM
So who's in this wave? I've seen 2 or 3 different variations on the assortment and I need to know who I'm hunting at retail? ???

Well, I suppose:

# 15 Sora Bulq
# 16 Sun Fac
# 17 C3PO/Battle droid
# 18 Poggle the Lesser
# 19 Yoda
# 20 Jango Fett
# 21 Scorch ( wasn't actually there)
# 26 Utapau 212 clone (which is strange because numerically, he is way out of order)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on February 7, 2006, 11:28 PM
Damn, that's more than 6 figs for me to hunt, with multiple clones. :'(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2006, 01:59 AM
Depressing for me is that I will inevitably want multiple Sun Fac to replace my Geonosian army with, or at least "improve" it since the Saga figure really sucked butt and fell routinely.  The basic and the Masstif one.

Then Utapau Grunts...  I can't even put a number on how many I want.

And as much as I loathe the Clone Commando's legs, I will buy probably two so I have one for my set and one for customs since the upper body is perfect.  Damn the half-assed legs and lacking articulation on them though on him and Sora Bulq...  :( 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 9, 2006, 09:59 AM
It seems all the Targets in my area got in one case with bare pegs. That leaves me scratching my head as to why one case is send when two or three will due. With one of each clone initailly per case, that's a lot of hunting to do. :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 10, 2006, 01:07 AM
I'm wondering what's up with the spotty shipments too.  I've seen nothing that would tell me that more than 2 cases per store have shown anywhere.  Even a new WM Superstore that opened had only 2 cases of Carkoon out opening day...  Very odd.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 10, 2006, 09:39 AM
Kind of harkens back to the '04 saga days. Constant bare pegs, one case shipments at a time. ??? With less quantity, thing is, since I have a set morning schedule, I have to reliy on other people not making it to the store or getting their fill before I can complete my set.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 10, 2006, 10:17 AM
Hmmm... it seems like some waves hit in mass, while others trickle in.  Maybe the first shipment being light just indicates production numbers early, and in a week or two they'll get heavier shipments of these.

I agree with Jesse on Sun Fac... damnit, I'll probably want several of him too.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 10, 2006, 03:30 PM
I'm wondering what's up with the spotty shipments too.  I've seen nothing that would tell me that more than 2 cases per store have shown anywhere.  Even a new WM Superstore that opened had only 2 cases of Carkoon out opening day...  Very odd.

My store got 3 cases last night.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 11, 2006, 03:53 AM
These showed up here too, but only two cases again...  So stores with basically little or no figures on pegs are getting not a whole lot.  TRU is crammed to the gills with Carkoon though, I hadn't been there in a while and I was shocked to see everything...

Targets are STARTING to back up with Hoth but that's it...  And WM has nothing at any store short of a Bib or a few figs from that wave.  I'm surprised there isn't a big shipment hitting these stores to fill pegs...  Target's getting there though it seems.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on February 11, 2006, 10:51 AM
I saw a Battle Of Geonosis Yoda on the pegs when I went to Target last night, a sign that the Geonosis wave had been there. Just gotta wait 'til they restock and then Scorch is mine.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on February 11, 2006, 12:14 PM
This wave has not hit in Utah at all. Nothing at Target and Walmart's are not stocking up the 3 3/4 lately (one collector told me that a manager told him that they were dropping the 3 3/4 line to which I said IF that happened, you might as well say the line is dead; and that this rumor cycles with every wave of figures). So next week. I hope they hit Walmart soon as that store is easier for me to get to (I can only hit Target on Saturday's).
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 11, 2006, 01:10 PM
If I'm reading into the recent announcements correctly, it looks like this might be it until May, thank goodness.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on February 11, 2006, 05:07 PM
Damn these are showing up almost everywhere now. We haven't seen a single case in the last 2 weeks or so here in Fort Collins (CO).

It will suck some gigantic balls if Wal-Mart drops the line. I hit the local 24 hr one everynight at midnight or so, so I can actually find stuff. I can never make it to Target early enough to get anything. I guess that'll have to change. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 11, 2006, 06:22 PM
This wave has not hit in Utah at all. Nothing at Target and Walmart's are not stocking up the 3 3/4 lately (one collector told me that a manager told him that they were dropping the 3 3/4 line

I really doubt that. 

I have to say though, for being the most popular toy line, probably by far, retail stores are really really bad at what they do, when it comes to keeping product on the shelves so people can actually walk into their store and buy it.  Hasbro also has to have a little more sense with the way they pack figures.  If they didn't pack 2x of the pegwarmer and 1x of the army builder, that'd really help things too.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: foolintherain76 on February 11, 2006, 07:26 PM
I found Yoda and Poggle today at Target on my way to work.  Hope to go Target Hopping tomorrw to find the rest.  There are like 12 here in C-bus, OH.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: speedermike on February 11, 2006, 08:18 PM
Well, I just found the Hoth wave, so I'm not even gonna think about these guys yet.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on February 11, 2006, 08:34 PM
I foresee Scorch evaporating from the pegs 2.3 seconds after he's out of the case, while Poggle's availibilty will be much like the Great Neimodian Warrior Plague Of 2005.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 11, 2006, 08:40 PM
Walmart's are not stocking up the 3 3/4 lately (one collector told me that a manager told him that they were dropping the 3 3/4 line

Retailers have been telling us this every year for the past 10 years. :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 11, 2006, 08:46 PM
Retailers have been telling us this every year for the past 10 years. :P

Agreed.  Every 6-8 months, someone on one of the forums hears that, starts a thread and people panic.  Sure one of the times it will be true, but with all the stuff planned for this year?  I'll guess no.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on February 12, 2006, 01:07 AM
(one collector told me that a manager told him that they were dropping the 3 3/4 line to which I said IF that happened, you might as well say the line is dead; and that this rumor cycles with every wave of figures).

Just wanted to clarify, that it was not my intention to start a post about that, put to merely show how panic some people become when the stores have not received a shipment in an area. I told him not to believe it, Walmart's not missing out on cash  Walmarts have been much better for me on the Saga than Target, but this is a hunting and time issue.

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 12, 2006, 01:55 AM
I will say this though - in the POTJ era, one local Walmart about 30 miles south of St. Louis did not carry that line at all.  I was told there that they would no longer carry Star Wars back in 2001.  I told them they better get ready, because in 2002 they'll have an entire aisle for AOTC - and they did.  Then they quit carrying SAGA figures... no OTC line, no VOTC line and nothing until ROTS.  Now they aren't carrying SAGA2 figures.  They have a Femi-Nazi running the toy department there.  Oh well, their loss.

 :P 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rob on February 12, 2006, 02:15 AM
I'm suprised by that - I didn't think that department managers could make decisions on what they would and wouldn't carry.  Sure they can decide to order 1 case or 3, but I'd think that to just eliminate a line would catch the eye of higher ups who know that those things sell.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 12, 2006, 07:38 AM
I'm suprised by that - I didn't think that department managers could make decisions on what they would and wouldn't carry. 

It's probably equally as likely that the figures found their way out the door to local hobby dealers.

As far as I know, department managers cannot make these decisions.  They receive a blueprint planogram from corporate on how to set their aisles, how many pegs and where to put them, and then the product starts flowing in from corporate warehouses.  I doubt they even place orders for them.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2006, 08:36 AM
I've found nothing so far in Minneapolis, but I do have a question. Do the genosians stand up fairly well? I don't want to drop $7.00 on another one to lean on the wall-
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 12, 2006, 07:47 PM
Take a look at the case assortment for this wave that is just starting to hit stores:

1x Scorch (Saga #21)
1x Sora Bulq (Saga #15)
2x Sun Fac (Saga #16)
2x C-3PO with Battle Droid head (Saga #17)
2x Poggle the Lesser (Saga #18)
1x Jango Fett (Saga #20)
1x Orange Utapaun Clone Trooper (Saga #26)
2x Yoda (Saga #19).

I don't think that makes much sense.  Yoda is going to sit.  3PO is going to sit.  Poggle is an obscure character who is already released once, and not long ago.  Clones grow wings and fly out of the store, yet those are packed 1 per case. What would have made more sense?  This:


3x Scorch (Saga #21) - still won't be able to keep him on the shelf
1x Sora Bulq (Saga #15) - gonna move
1x Sun Fac (Saga #16) - gonna move
1x C-3PO with Battle Droid head (Saga #17) - will move, then warm
1x Poggle the Lesser (Saga #18) - will move, then warm
1x Jango Fett (Saga #20) - will move, then warm
3x Orange Utapaun Clone Trooper (Saga #26) - gonna fly outta the store
1x Yoda (Saga #19) - will warm in due course
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 13, 2006, 07:38 AM
Yeah I don't believe any toy manager has that ability in WM or Target...  What is possible though is that the demographic information for any particular store's area indicates that this or that may not sell well so they don't carry it.

For instance, a WM opened along my city commute in an area that's fairly well off however the area is accessible by lower income areas fairly easy so the shopping is kind of bad.  Most of the people that actually live in that area don't go to the stores there, including the Wal-Mart.  The information I've heard about this WM (one of the rare times a WM renovated an exisiting building btw, it's the first time I ever saw this myself), is that this store carries very little Star Wars product (didn't carry much through ROTS even at its height of popularity) because it tries to focus on lower priced toys like Chap Mei figures and items like that.  Star Wars just too expensive to cater to the demographic that most travels this Wal-Mart.

Department Managers at WM are really just the handlers for the area...  More or less.  When I worked retail for Penney's we had the same basic people running different departments and they only had slightly more responsibility for only slightly better pay.  The ordering was done by merchandisers primarily, who did full orders or manipulated the running inventory system.  WM's running inventory system is store-wide and managed by the district offices with only suggestions from store managers being accepted as to what to carry, but not necessarilly changing anything.

I've gotten the "We're not carrying that" anymore too.  It is a cover for "Please don't ask me anything, I just want to get my 7 hours in and go home, please leave me alone".  :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 13, 2006, 09:43 AM
I suppose another possibility is (although I favor the back door explaination) is that some stores are simply considered low volume stores and carry diffferent product than most other stores.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 13, 2006, 11:15 AM
And I'd like to point out that store managers (dept. or otherwise) don't decide how many cases come in.

Inventory is automatically ordered via the checkout process. 

IE:  once eight figures are purchased (scanned through the checkout process), a case is ordered.

What a store carries is dependent on their geographic location and store size.  Here in the midwest, most WM's carry John Deere tractors - a sight you won't find in say, a West Coast WM.

I have a WM on my commute home that does not carry SW, yet the one down the road does - a mere twenty miles away.  One is a Supercenter, the other is not.



Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 13, 2006, 02:54 PM
Take a look at the case assortment for this wave that is just starting to hit stores:

Yeah, we discussed the case assortment a few pages back (try page 8 or so).  Don't worry about the case assortment.  This is only the first of many case revisions planned for this wave.  If you click the EE links below, you can see the other case assortments planned:

The Saga Collection Wave 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C)
The Saga Collection Wave 3, Revision 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C1) - has more Scorch and Sora
The Saga Collection Wave 3, Revision 2 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C2) - had more clones
The Saga Collection Wave 3, Revision 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C3)  - has more Scorch and clones

You'll notice that the Geonosians are not in the Revision cases, but the Clones and Scorch are, so hopefully they will not be too hard to track down.  Also, the Utapau Clone will continue to ship 1-2 per case for each case assortment in the Coruscant wave, so even if he is hard to find at first, he should be available slowly over time.


Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 13, 2006, 03:16 PM
That true, and great news about the Utapua clone... many people are going to want an army, but probably not in the numbers of the pure white clone.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: starwax137 on February 13, 2006, 04:36 PM
What mold is Mr. Utapau based off of again?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 13, 2006, 04:44 PM
What mold is Mr. Utapau based off of again?

He is based on the RotS #41 mold... goofy antenna and all.

(http://www.mrmforce.com/clone8.JPG)
(http://www.mrmforce.com/clone14.JPG)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 13, 2006, 04:47 PM
Thanks for the pic... got one of his backside?  I'm thinking about just making my own customs of these.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 13, 2006, 04:56 PM
The photos popped up earlier in the thread from a guy in the RS forums I believe...

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC026clone04.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 13, 2006, 05:02 PM
Thank you for the pics Jeff.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: starwax137 on February 13, 2006, 05:08 PM
Thank you for the pics Jeff.   :)

 :P

ditto
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 13, 2006, 05:16 PM
You know, I wonder what he would look like without the battle damage.  I think they go too far sometimes with the battle damage.

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on February 13, 2006, 10:54 PM
I've found nothing so far in Minneapolis, but I do have a question. Do the genosians stand up fairly well? I don't want to drop $7.00 on another one to lean on the wall-

They stand great. I found 'em today, and I love the 2 Geonosians. Sun Fac has ball-jointed ankles, so he's pretty posable. Poggle was sculpted a while back for the Cinema Scene and has more POTF era joints, but he does stand well. Also, he has that walking stick, so that gives him further stability. I'm really impressed with these two buggers! :D But my fave of the wave is definitely Sora Bulq. He looks like a badass. The sculpt detail is beautiful, and I'm happy to report the lack of knee joints really doesn't detract from the fig; the ball-jointed ankles go a long toward posing his stances.  ...unlike Scorch who has miserable preposed POTF legs.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Famine on February 14, 2006, 01:04 AM
Thanks for the pic... got one of his backside?


Ha.

Kevin
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 14, 2006, 03:29 AM
Glad on the sculpt on the Utapau grunt...  Perplexed why he's in this wave and why Hasbro didn't just put out a SA AOTC Clone instead.  It would've made more sense and sold equally well given the lack of armies I see of that style Clone.  I'd have bought more anyway.

Haven't caught this wave yet but looking forward to it some.  Sora Bulq I'm happy with that he's being done and he's pretty poseable up top at least but I still can't get over the knee joints Ook.  To me, the ankles should've been sacrificed for knees since you really can get a lot more out of the knees than you can those ankle joints.  Not that they aren't cool too, but they just don't come in quite as handy as good knee articulation does.  it's like Veers' boots swiveling at the top...  Why?  Just give him knee joints and you can swivel his boots around all you want AND have him running in battle or whatnot.  Not that he did, but he should be able to.

Sora and Scorch though, yeah it hurts them a LOT more that they don't have the articulation they deserve.  Two all action characters, and both limited in leg articulation.  Blah. :(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on February 14, 2006, 08:33 AM
Sora Bulq I'm happy with that he's being done and he's pretty poseable up top at least but I still can't get over the knee joints Ook.

I hear you. He's pretty damn neat, though. I'm really impressed with the quality of the ball joints at the shoulders and elbows. You hardly notice they're there. He and VOTC Han are textbook examples of how ball joints should done. As opposed to, say, ROTS Anakin, Obi-Wan and Windu. It's amazing how obtrusive and ugly they are on those two. :-X
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 14, 2006, 09:31 AM
You know, I wonder what he would look like without the battle damage.  I think they go too far sometimes with the battle damage.



Agreed. However, can you imagine if they released both a clean and dirty version. :-X
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on February 14, 2006, 09:41 AM
On the whole, I'm loving the weathering much more than clean. Since Bly and the Evos came out I can't even look at clean ones anymore. The red and green commanders looks totally unrealistic to me now. :-[
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 14, 2006, 12:23 PM
That's cool - I'm just the opposite - I love the clean AOTC clones, don't mind the #41 clone and despise the second version of the sandtrooper from the Evo set.

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on February 14, 2006, 12:31 PM
That's cool - I'm just the opposite - I love the clean AOTC clones, don't mind the #41 clone and despise the second version of the sandtrooper from the Evo set.

Hey, that's the same one I still love to see clean white: the original CW SA clone. Although after getting used to the weathering they've been doing, I don't much care for my clean EE AOTC officers much anymore. Wish I'd gotten the blasted ones. You know, that sandtrooper looks more like a mudtrooper. I have a couple on my desk which happen to be near Dagobah Luke and Yoda, and they look like they've been trooping through the mud trying to find Luke! I don't hate that version, but the orange Evo is definitely a better sandtrooper. I'll just use them for mud evironments instead of tattooine. ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 15, 2006, 12:05 AM
Time for a nice group vomiting session:


Scorch and Utapau clone found!! (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-2006-SAGA-ORANGE-CLONE-TROOPER-SCORCH_W0QQitemZ6036363434QQcategoryZ101609QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 15, 2006, 10:01 AM
You know, a local scalper was telling a collector about a profitability window on new figures. I wonder what that window is? I felt bad for the collector because the scalper was telling him point blank that he'll let him buy the Clone and Scorch from that store after the window is closed. >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jayson on February 15, 2006, 12:31 PM
For all you variant hunters, the C3PO not only includes the head variant, it also has a holo variant:

Good holos with C-3PO head or Bad holos with Battel Droid Head  ::)

http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/geowave_holos.jpg


Edit: sorry for the origin of the reference pic  :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 15, 2006, 01:08 PM
LOL..I agree with the  ::)
Holos are packed randomly, heh
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Morgbug on February 15, 2006, 01:41 PM
You know, a local scalper was telling a collector about a profitability window on new figures. I wonder what that window is? I felt bad for the collector because the scalper was telling him point blank that he'll let him buy the Clone and Scorch from that store after the window is closed. >:(

If it's anything like McFarlane sportspicks, the window tops out at about three weeks, then subsides.  Basically you've got a window where product is very hard to find and a set of impatient buyers on ebay (they may be geographically restricted, physically handicapped or just plain stupid, among other motivating factors).  I don't get the ebay buyer mindset at all - sometimes I get burned on stuff by waiting too long and price goes up, but that's maybe 10% of the cases. 

After that window closes the market is generally flooded with the figures at retail and it's not worth the scalpers time to get them from the store, the profit margin is too low.  Pretty simple ebay economics really. 

For us patience is all we really need, supply will come, 99 times out of 100.  On occasion it won't, but that's why you're here in the first place, to talk about the stuff and make contacts. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 15, 2006, 02:22 PM
Just missed Scortch and the Clones today at a Target but did walk away with Sora Bulq and two Sun Fac figures.  Pretty cool to say the least.  I just don't see why they had to put so many repacks in this wave.  Instead it would have been nice for there to be a few more Clones available.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 15, 2006, 03:10 PM
Quote
but that's why you're here in the first place, to talk about the stuff and make contacts.



With that being said, I am looking for Utapau clones and Scorch!



Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on February 15, 2006, 05:22 PM
I saw figures were in backstock at my closest Target on Sunday after not finding any hint of Geonosis figs on the pegs, and they brought out only three figures -- Scorch, Sora, and Jango. So, the figures had been picked over beforehand. But who leaves Scorch?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jayson on February 15, 2006, 05:39 PM
Retards  ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 15, 2006, 05:59 PM
Isn't that funny Jared? I asked a target once for titaniums and they went in the back and came back with a TH gunship and an ATAT :o. I didn't ask him for "those"
but I'll take 'em,weird.

I wonder if when they're stocking if it overflows the pegs they just put what's left in the backstock?

Jason? Is that what you guys do? Can you shed any light on it? Or is it just an anomaly with the particular store?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Annatar on February 15, 2006, 07:26 PM
I may just have to screw waiting for these and buy at Traget, I shouldint buy from Wally, I know but oh well.... :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Bobafett77 on February 15, 2006, 07:29 PM
I saw figures were in backstock at my closest Target on Sunday after not finding any hint of Geonosis figs on the pegs, and they brought out only three figures -- Scorch, Sora, and Jango. So, the figures had been picked over beforehand. But who leaves Scorch?

Odd how they are all figures that come 1 per case in that asst too, hmmm. I'd say a stash job but why would they scan them into the shelf !?!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 15, 2006, 07:44 PM
You can get a good look at this new wave here
http://www.hasbro.com/starwars/default.cfm?page=toyarena

Hasbro FINALLY ::) updated their SW website
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: JediFirefly on February 16, 2006, 12:18 AM
Well these finally showed up at a local Target here in Virginia. But of course the clone trooper, scorch, and Sora were missing. The 3 figures I really want and Scorch which my little brother really wants were gone. What really sucks though was I was just there yesterday and they had nothing and today I just stopped by because I went to a store near by. Good luck to others trying to get these ones.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 16, 2006, 09:45 AM
I saw figures were in backstock at my closest Target on Sunday after not finding any hint of Geonosis figs on the pegs, and they brought out only three figures -- Scorch, Sora, and Jango. So, the figures had been picked over beforehand. But who leaves Scorch?

Odd how they are all figures that come 1 per case in that asst too, hmmm. I'd say a stash job but why would they scan them into the shelf !?!

What does happen on occation is that the stocker doesn't have enough room to put all the figures out, so they'll take a partial case back.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 16, 2006, 03:54 PM
Well I lucked out today and was able to grab two of the Clones and one Scorch (and another Sora for a custom).  Great wave of figures, but would have been better with this ratio I think -

Utapua Clone x 4
Scorch X 4
Sun Fac x 2
Sora Bulq x 2

And no repacks...

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on February 16, 2006, 05:44 PM
but would have been better with this ratio I think -

Utapua Clone x 4
Scorch X 4
Sun Fac x 2
Sora Bulq x 2

And no repacks...

 :P

The ideal case assortment should actually be:
Utapua Clone x 1
Sun Fac x 1
Sora Bulq x 1
Scorch x 9


I know I'm nevah gonna find Scorch...


 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on February 16, 2006, 06:57 PM
I went to the same ole luicky Target and found:

6x Poggle
6x Sun Fac
2x c3po (droid head)
2x c3po (his head)
5x Yoda
2x Jango
0x Scorch
0x Sora
0x clone trooper

I bought 2x Sun Fac, 2x Jango, 1x droid c3po for myself.
and I got 2x reg c3po, 2x sun Fac, 2x Poggle2x Yoda for a friend, who had none.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on February 16, 2006, 07:40 PM
Like many of you, I'll be getting all of the Geo wave except Jango and Yoda.

Today at Target I found some of the wave: everything except Jango and his various genetic progeny--go figure. I picked up Poggle and Sora, but the pocketbook could not withstand any more at this time. I'm sure Sun Fac and 3PO will sit long enough for me to pick them up later on. Of course, I doubt I'll see Scorch or the orange clone in person and will have to rely on trading buddies. :(

Initially everyone (including myself) was excited to learn Scorch would be made--because he's an Expanded Universe game character. But because of this he's pure scalper bait and should be shipped in solid cases to offset it.

I can envision the fan/collector reaction blowing up right in Hasbro's face when nobody's able to find Scorch, and then they use it as an excuse not to make more EU figures: "We never saw retailers carrying him on store shelves, so clearly the character wasn't popular" or some **** like that. ::)

Hmmmm ... too pessimistic too soon? :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 16, 2006, 08:21 PM
I can envision the fan/collector reaction blowing up right in Hasbro's face when nobody's able to find Scorch, and then they use it as an excuse not to make more EU figures: "We never saw retailers carrying him on store shelves, so clearly the character wasn't popular" or some **** like that. ::)

Not bad..
Heh, sounds like a Con Hasbro design team answer at a Q&A ::)


Hmmmm ... too pessimistic too soon? :-\

I think so, these figures ..looking at future case assortments will be reshipped many more times and will even go up to 2 per case.
When this happens..it will be harder for scalpers to make a pofit off them as more collectors pick them up.

I think right now it's frustrating for some and unfortunately  those impatient ones are the folks fueling the scalpers cause right now. Because of these" have to have it now" types the scalpers are bleeding stores at opening more than usual. It's become more problematic as of late where the scalpers' greed grows they become more violent(see Southern California! thread-last couple pages). I think we shoot ourselves in the foot on this issue.

Kenobi- if your Q was rhetoric then, sorry for the reply
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on February 16, 2006, 08:34 PM
I can envision the fan/collector reaction blowing up right in Hasbro's face when nobody's able to find Scorch, and then they use it as an excuse not to make more EU figures: "We never saw retailers carrying him on store shelves, so clearly the character wasn't popular" or some **** like that. ::)

Not bad..
Heh, sounds like a Con Hasbro design team answer at a Q&A ::)


I could see them saying that but that is just plain BS. I was in the store and some little kid, he probably 5 or 6, was looking at the SW figures at the same time I was, his mom was with him and told him there had been a Scorch that morning. The kid was so disappointed he missed it. When Hasbro makes figures from video games kids are going to want them too, because kids play the video games.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 16, 2006, 08:38 PM
I managed to find a few of these today after work - Yoda, Sun Fac, Poggle.

Poggle and Yoda are pretty much re-hashes, but they did improve the paint job on Poggle IMHO.  Poggle will fit in nicely with my Ep3 Separatists and Yoda looks good in my arena set-up.

Sun Fac though, wow!  He is great.  WAY more ball-joints than I was expecting.  I love his staff and his gun.  I wish they would had put this much effort into ALL of the Geonosian figures they've done.   :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on February 16, 2006, 09:22 PM
Well, they have hit the Targets here in mass, but since I am teaching and at school, no go for me. I will have to wait for Walmart to get them in, or if I get lucky on a Saturday morning at Target.
I think after reading I am only getting the Clone, Sun Fac, and Poggle (don't have one). Scorch I can pass on, but my 11 year old son wants one so . . . I'll add him I guess.
I'll have to check for a review of Scorch in the review section as I am afraid this is just a hyped up piece of plastic, minus articulation.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on February 16, 2006, 09:36 PM
I can envision the fan/collector reaction blowing up right in Hasbro's face when nobody's able to find Scorch, and then they use it as an excuse not to make more EU figures: "We never saw retailers carrying him on store shelves, so clearly the character wasn't popular" or some **** like that. ::)

A kid with his mom were also looking at the figure while I was (after I reorganized the pegs to see what there actually was)
He went for a Yoda at first, but then chose the C3PO with the droid head!

Sun Fac though, wow!  He is great.  WAY more ball-joints than I was expecting.  I love his staff and his gun.  I wish they would had put this much effort into ALL of the Geonosian figures they've done. 

Hell buy more and replace them. Inever had Geonosians, but now I am using Sun Facs as Poggles elite bodyguards.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on February 17, 2006, 12:16 AM
Not bad..
Heh, sounds like a Con Hasbro design team answer at a Q&A ::)

Just doin' my part to carry DoctorPadawan's hallowed torch (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9566.0). ;) *salutes*

Quote
I think so, these figures ..looking at future case assortments will be reshipped many more times and will even go up to 2 per case.
When this happens..it will be harder for scalpers to make a pofit off them as more collectors pick them up.

I think right now it's frustrating for some and unfortunately  those impatient ones are the folks fueling the scalpers cause right now. Because of these" have to have it now" types the scalpers are bleeding stores at opening more than usual. It's become more problematic as of late where the scalpers' greed grows they become more violent(see Southern California! thread-last couple pages). I think we shoot ourselves in the foot on this issue.

Kenobi- if your Q was rhetoric then, sorry for the reply

Nope, I appreciate the response. :) And I totally agree about the impatient types who'll pay $20 and screw the rest of us instead of simply waiting a bit and getting them for $7. ::) Even if I had that kind of disposable income to waste, the thing is just silly.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 17, 2006, 12:27 AM
I agree Jeff, Sun Fac is an awesome figure... I've got two of them opened up and love it.  I think I might be forced by the hand of God to army build this figure.

As for Scorch... time will tell, I just hope it doesn't turn into another McQuarrie Stormtrooper deal... I do have a Scorch now and two of the Utapua clones, all pretty cool. 

Sora Bulq was a nice surprise too... can't wait to customize one.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Nathan on February 17, 2006, 12:33 AM
I really hope Scorch doesn't become a self-fulfilling thing where everyone, anticipating scarcity, starts hoarding him and we collectively shoot ourselves in the foot. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 17, 2006, 04:28 AM
Hit the motherload on these tonite at WMs. Scored alot of Geo desired figs ;)

Watch out! They came in cases on the pallets that said wave 2.5- I almost blew it thinking it was Hoth again!

CAN you say FINALLY Wal Mart Hit! Enjoyed the scalper free environment and cheaper price..phew!

And.. as I predicted..the WM stores get more than the 1 case that alot of the Targets got on thei first shipments.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 17, 2006, 11:46 AM
Nice!  Love seeing Walmart getting them in.  What state do you live in Slothus?

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 17, 2006, 11:50 AM
Hell buy more and replace them. Inever had Geonosians, but now I am using Sun Facs as Poggles elite bodyguards.

I don't think I'll do that (not at $7 a figure anyway), but if they show up cheaper, I might defintely grab a few more.


As for Scorch and the Utapau Clone, don't worry about them just yet.  Like Slothus was saying earlier, there are more cases coming that have those guys in there.  Check this out:

The Utapau Clone and Scorch to a lesser extent will both ship at 1-2x per case in almost every case revision I've seen for Wave 3 and 4:

The Saga Collection Wave 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C) - 1x Scorch, 1x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 3, Revision 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C1) - 1x Scorch
The Saga Collection Wave 3, Revision 2 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C2) - 1x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 3, Revision 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C3) - 2x Scorch, 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D) - 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D1) - 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 2 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D2) - 1x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D3) - 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D4) - 1x Scorch, 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 5 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D5) - 2x Utapau Clone

That's a LOT of case assortments with a lot of Utapau Clone and a decent amount of Scorch and we haven't even seen the revision case assortments for Wave 5 yet.  Plenty of time to hunt for them before you get too worried about not finding them!

If anything, I'd be worried about the Geonosians instead because they are only in the Wave 3, Revision 0 case and not in any case after that according to EE.  The rest of the wave (3PO, Yoda, Jango, Sora, Clone, Scorch) can be found in most of those Wave 3 case assortments, but not Poggle and Sun Fac.   :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Morgbug on February 17, 2006, 12:04 PM
Poggle and Sun Fac notwithstanding and Jeff's fine update of the clone/scorch reshipment notwithstanding, if anyone stumbles onto a boatload of these things, I could use about five of each.  Card condition doesn't matter ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 17, 2006, 12:50 PM
Kind of a strange find today regarding this wave... last night I went by a Target in my area around 9pm, all they had was one Rieken... at 8am this morning, they had several Snowtroopers, several Veers, a few Derlins and one Yoda.  That makes no sense unless someone went there and returned some stuff.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 17, 2006, 03:47 PM
I'm in Southern Cally Chewie
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: jedipurge on February 17, 2006, 08:05 PM
slothus where s cali?  i still haven't seen anything in local walmarts in significant numbers worth mentioning.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 17, 2006, 08:45 PM
I'm in Southern Cally Chewie

Thanks.  Usually here in St. Louis we're at least a week behind you guys on new figures, so starting next week I'll start hitting Walmarts again looking for these.  Thank you!

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Greg on February 17, 2006, 10:30 PM
I picked up the Geonosian, Sun Fac, today. It is a very nice figure, and I wouldn't mind it if Hasbro reissued it with a new paint job, new head, and  a new torso area. I also saw Poggle(I'm gonna wait on him, even though he has a funny name) and Yoda, who I'm going to pass on.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 17, 2006, 10:46 PM
Some loose pics for ya.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/WingNut25/Collection/UtapauClones.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/WingNut25/Collection/looseScorch.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on February 18, 2006, 12:01 AM
Very nice Jason, Im hoping to find a few of those tomorrow.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Aucassin on February 18, 2006, 02:09 AM
Kind of a strange find today regarding this wave... last night I went by a Target in my area around 9pm, all they had was one Rieken... at 8am this morning, they had several Snowtroopers, several Veers, a few Derlins and one Yoda.  That makes no sense unless someone went there and returned some stuff.

 :P

I've had something similar happen at my Target recently. Last week they had 6 Bibs and one each of Derlin, Snowtrooper, Veers and Rieekan. The Veers card was a little banged up, but the Derlin card was dented right at the corner with the holo-figure. It looked like someone had tried to take the holo by pushing it up to loosen it, but couldn't get it underneath the bubble.

Anyway, on Tuesday I went back and all they had were the Bibs. But I went again last night and the same Hoth figures were back, damaged cards and all. Tonight Veers and the Snowtrooper were gone, and Poggle and Yoda were there. It just seemed strange to me.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on February 18, 2006, 02:07 PM
Is this wave really worth all the hype it seems to be getting because it is harder initially to find? The Clone is a SA 41 painted clone, and is cool. Yet, the Clone will hit 2 per case in the next wave. Scorch to me is like the ARC Troopers Red and Blue in the Clone Wars wave. Lacks articulation but because it is an EU clone, people want it and bad. As a figure it looks good, but is lacking in articulation and shows what Hasbro can put out for a quick buck IMO. Sun Fac is AWESOME. IMO he is the best figure in the wave. Nice paint job, good articulation. The Jedi is okay, fits in with the Clone Wars Jedi 3 pack in the sense of again, lack of articulation. I do think if your into Jedi, you need one, but one is enough. Poggle is solid if you did not have him in the 3 pack. Yoda is a waste since we just had this figure in ROTS less than 6 months ago. C3P0, again a waste. Updated paint job is nice, but not a necessary figure. Then Jango. Again, throw a updated paint job and your good to go I guess. 
So, out of this wave, this is how I would rate the figures (IF I had to buy on bare bones so to speak)


Utapau Clone (if your into Clones)
San Fac


Next a need/want figures
Sora Bulq
Scorch (I know I'll hear grief on this but I don't think he is a must have; I have 1 that is good enough);

Next
Poggle the Lesser (unless you don't have him, then I would move him up a notch)

Figures to Pass on (unless your completist)
Jango
C3PO
Yoda




Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on February 18, 2006, 02:30 PM
I'd say the hype is due to peoples' impatience at finding new waves, and probably the clones. The Utapau guys are repaints, sure, but all clones seem to have sold well. And I think a lot of people are into having an army to go with Cody...?

It's a good wave, though. I think you underrate the Jedi. He's defintely not a preposed fig like the 3-pack ones. He's completely posable save the knees, and that, surprisingly, isn't very limiting. It's NOTHING like the immobility of Bacara and the Neimoidian warrior. His leg sculpts are perfectly in between straight and overposed. Somehow they just work. I can't seem to stop singing his praises. ;D

Also, a lot of people seem to want all but 2: Yoda and Jango. I fall in this group. Poggle and Threepio are basically repacks, but not everyone bought Deluxe and/or Screen Scenes. Both figs are new to me.

(Sun Fac is awesome, but Sora Bulq is the winner in this wave! ;) )
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on February 18, 2006, 07:50 PM
I am very impatient to start with, but when you go to at least 7 Walmarts, 6 Targets, 3 TRU, and 2 KB, all you can find is Hoth remains, piles of Carkoon, but only 1 Target has wave 3. It gets very scary. Hell' I finally found a Vader literally 23 min. after I got one from a friend, You get worried. And then to see the clone sell for between $15 and $30 each on ebay, that schools every midnight scalper to scoop them all up.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on February 18, 2006, 09:08 PM
My Target spewed out what looked like 3 cases of wave 3 at about 2 this afternoon. Someone had already raided all the Scorches, Utupau Clones, and Jangos, and left everything else. I was able to get a little more caught up, and all I need now is an opener Scorch and Clone (and maybe Jango for the base). I'm not at all worried about those.

Now having these guys here, I still think this series is the peg poison wave -- I keep staring at them, and the only ones worth really opening are Sun Fac and Sora. Bleh.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Morgbug on February 18, 2006, 09:38 PM
Quote
Now having these guys here, I still think this series is the peg poison wave -- I keep staring at them, and the only ones worth really opening are Sun Fac and Sora. Bleh.

That's exactly why I didn't order a case with this wave.  The later wave I did order had the two clones and one scorch on top of the later figures.  But I just couldn't see myself with a full box of these.  Yoda?  Jango?  Yeesh.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: JediFirefly on February 19, 2006, 02:02 PM
Both of my local walmarts have not had any of these figures show up yet, I am practiaclly checking daily since they are on my way to work. However one of the Targets near by me, which I also check often odly had 2 of the yodas and some of the hoth figures yesterday and they did not have any of them the day before.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on February 19, 2006, 02:07 PM
Though I think these have pegwarmers written all over them, I have noticed in stores that have received them that even Yoda sells. Guess the kiddies or the completist collectors have to catch em all.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 19, 2006, 02:43 PM
Regardless of whether or not the Scorch and Utapau Clone are in future waves, at the rate these Saga cases are hitting and disappearing, they won't be that easy to come by. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on February 19, 2006, 02:57 PM
I haven't seen Scorch in any future waves at EE, but the Utapau Clone will be 2xclones per case in the next wave. Harder to find, yes. Impossible, no unless you only hunt in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 19, 2006, 07:28 PM
Well, as long as the Saga cases are disappering, thats good, 'cause that should mean more will make it to the shelves, incresaing everyones chances.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Scott on February 20, 2006, 11:48 PM
BBTS got their shipment in finally, I've got mine in my Pile of Loot.  I ******* love the PoL.  I can cancel if I find stuff and it just sits there waiting to be shipped so its one big box instead of 7 little ones that piss the wife off :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 21, 2006, 01:25 PM
I haven't seen Scorch in any future waves at EE. Impossible, no unless you only hunt in the afternoon.

That's funny I've been going to their website(EE) regularly and noticed Scorch in these assts:

Wave 2.5(not shown at EE but I found these cases at WM)
Wave 3
Wave 3 rev 1
Wave 3 rev 3
Wave 4 rev 4

Ahh..there he is ..in 2 more waves ;)  <also posted by Jeff Earlier>

I definately agree- Rarely but sometimes I make a SW find in "off times" when stores aren't stocking. Let me tell you that I could go to probably 15 stores in one day and get nothing if I went in the late afternoon.My Targets stock from 1030-1500, not in the morning when they open-if I go then, I get nothing. The WM's stock at nite even before the ones that do close close. Get it when they stock it or don't get it. I also go all the time. I work and it does cost gas out the ass but it evens out if I had to pay for shipping to buy it on line in cases. The more often a person goes to shop, the more likely he is to score. I've tested it on myself on occasion-there'll be a week or 2 where I go only twice a week and, it figures, I get nothing or just miss. I can only blame myself for not going more often when this happens. Fortunately, I don't do this do myself very often and I get practically everything fairly easy.

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 21, 2006, 03:09 PM
The gas expense may even out online shipping charges but what about your time?

Surely, everyone's time is worth something. 

I hate spending a day driving around town only to end up with nothing. 

Some people enjoy the "hunt" - not me - I'd rather have my figures waiting for me when I get home!   :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on February 21, 2006, 04:06 PM
The time spent on toy runs does suck sometimes... but I love going on toy runs.  There's just something more exciting about finding new figures on the pegs than getting them shipped to you... plus it seems like retail is now weeks ahead of online orders for me... so I haven't ordered an online case in a while.  Sometimes I'll order a figure or two from a site, but not really by the case.  Plus with all these repacks that I don't need, buying by the case doesn't help me much.

It's all there at retail (at least in my area) if you have the time and are willing to make the effort to find it.  But it takes a lot of dedication, that's for sure.  I go on a toy run every day on my lunch break, and once or so a week on the way to work and probably once a week on a weekend late at night.  95% of the time I don't find anything new, but at least 25% of the time I end up picking up a figure for a custom or an extra army builder.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 21, 2006, 07:01 PM
I know what you mean about the "feel" for getting something on the peg. I had a HUGE score last week. One of the stockers at a local WM cut open all the cases for me and tells me "here, have at it" when I walked up. It just didn't "feel" right though so I told her I would stock them in the section for her and she thanked me. So I put them ALL on the pegs (barely) and then took what I needed to get, this way it "felt" right. :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 22, 2006, 12:56 PM
For anyone who cares, www.hasbrotoyshop.com has most of this wave in stock.

You can guess who is sold out... :'(

I just checked out their site yesterday afternoon and none of them were in stock, they must have updated last night with the Geonosis wave.

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 22, 2006, 03:11 PM
I find it quite amusing how folks must be going in there buying multiples(no doubt) of the clones at 7$ then shipping on top of it. :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 22, 2006, 03:14 PM
If they had been in stock, I would have.

Cheaper than driving around town!   ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 22, 2006, 07:35 PM
LOL- it evens out for me, and I don't have to wait for it.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rob on February 22, 2006, 08:05 PM
I still haven't found Scorch, the Clone, or the Jedi...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 22, 2006, 10:30 PM
In the end I worry about folks getting that jedi the most :(
I don't see him distributing as much as the clones in later waves/case assortments
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on February 23, 2006, 01:52 AM
Looks like KB had Scorch and the Ut. Clone in stock but they went fast.

Sora Bulq is in stock and ready to ship for $6.99 and shipping ($4.32 for 2). Here's the link:

http://www.kbtoys.com/genProduct.html/PID/4717475/ctid/17/INstock/Y/D/
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 23, 2006, 10:08 AM
I find it quite amusing how folks must be going in there buying multiples(no doubt) of the clones at 7$ then shipping on top of it. :)

Yeah, but you have to admit, we'd much rather see people doing this that buying from e-bay or Frank&Sons.

What I find amazing is that people never learn. Sure, a few figures have bit us in the butt in the past, but for the most part, as will be the case for the clones, the hype will die down and then people are going to be kicking themselves for panicking.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 23, 2006, 10:15 AM
Got my shipping notice from NewForce comics today!

The case should be here next week - it'll be nice to actually get my hands on Scorch and the Utapau Clone (along with the rest that I still need openers of - Sora, 3PO, Jango).   :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: JediFirefly on February 23, 2006, 12:11 PM
I came across Jango and Sora at a Walmart which I got but still have nbot spotted Scorch or the Clone.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on February 23, 2006, 04:37 PM
EE is shipping this wave as well now. They've gone from being about 5 weeks behind B&Ms on the Hoth wave to about 2-3 weeks for this wave.

Hopefully this means the gap is closing between the major B&M stores and etailers.  I'm downright sick of dealing with my local Target, and Walmart is just too damn far away.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on February 23, 2006, 08:09 PM
I finally found this wave at Wal*Mart today, except for Scorch and the Utapau Clone.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 24, 2006, 05:02 AM
I finally found this wave at Wal*Mart today, except for Scorch and the Utapau Clone.

Holy crap, this is basically reaching epidemic proportions.  The hype around the clones should die down soon though.  But check this out, the term " star wars scorch" currently returns 91 Scorch figures.

Scalping in all of it's glory (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Saga-SCORCH-21-ORANGE-CLONE-TROOPER-26_W0QQitemZ6038937325QQcategoryZ2476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Gatillo on February 24, 2006, 08:56 AM
I have been out of the country for a while so I am a little behind the hype.  What is the deal with Scorch?  I thought he was just some EU commander.  Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on February 24, 2006, 04:00 PM
I have been out of the country for a while so I am a little behind the hype.  What is the deal with Scorch?  I thought he was just some EU commander.  Am I wrong?


EU commando, yeah. From a game, I believe (and a novel...?). I guess everyone just has a hard-on for ALL the different clones. ???
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 24, 2006, 04:02 PM
Yep, it's a game (and I think the book followed).

(http://www.timelineuniverse.net/images/Republic%20Commando.jpg)

You can never have enough clones (EU or not).

 8)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Gatillo on February 24, 2006, 04:52 PM
I am allfor clones without a doubt but their distribution ends up short changing us.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on February 24, 2006, 07:31 PM
I finally found this wave at Wal*Mart today, except for Scorch and the Utapau Clone.

Holy crap, this is basically reaching epidemic proportions.  The hype around the clones should die down soon though.  But check this out, the term " star wars scorch" currently returns 91 Scorch figures.

Scalping in all of it's glory (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Saga-SCORCH-21-ORANGE-CLONE-TROOPER-26_W0QQitemZ6038937325QQcategoryZ2476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Wow. Those douchebags should be shot on sight.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ben on February 25, 2006, 01:26 AM
Found myself an Utapau Clone tonight. No Scorch, of course.

But it's hard to be let down over that since I got the figure I wanted more anyway.  I also picked up a Sun Fac because bug people are kinda cool.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 25, 2006, 11:53 AM
I am allfor clones without a doubt but their distribution ends up short changing us.

It's all a matter of perspective though. Beleive it or not, in some areas, clones are no more popular or hard to find than any other figure. Hasbro has to consider this when malking their case ratios, otherwise they can loose more sales than they could gain by flooding the market with clones.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2006, 12:48 PM
Clones are hot in general though. When they can repaint them and sell them as exclusives for 13-15.00, they know it's a safe bet to put some more out there. Unfortunately, "opportunists" already haunting the toy aisles also recognize this.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone On Fire on February 25, 2006, 12:48 PM
I am allfor clones without a doubt but their distribution ends up short changing us.

It's all a matter of perspective though. Beleive it or not, in some areas, clones are no more popular or hard to find than any other figure.

That's true, that area is commonly referred to as "heaven".  
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 25, 2006, 03:32 PM
I may live in an area like this- :D

Q- Is it considered scalping if a JD member holds auctions on Ebay for clones bought early overseas(not for retail value 'buy it now',instead open auction to see how much money they can make)whether it's 'fun' or not? :(

I'm all for spreading the clones around to folks that don't have them for retail value. Am I a socialist for doing this? Yes! and not in any degrading way at all! If you disagree, then your bad for the hobby whether you think your a fan or not and likely are a scalper or a scalper sympathizer anyway. :P

Hopefully ..some folks will have more patience and try to wait a little to see if they can get these HTG figures in a fair trade or retail sell from other JDers. That will put a dent in the scalpers' bait greed. 8)

-Urb

 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 26, 2006, 04:52 AM
Wow, what a disappoinment after the first two wave images, where I even thought the choice of repacks was acceptable.

I really like Sun Fac, and think Sora Bulq is ok. I'm not a big fan of EU characters, so the Rep Commando has never been on my list of wanted figures, but at least they found a way to work him into the line for fans.

But my god, those repacks. WTF? If C3PO gets a better paintjob (the final repack figures seem to have also varied from these early shots) he might be ok. The others can't be helped. Poggle was fine before, so whatever, but that Yoda and that Jango are horrible.

I can see this wave being the bottleneck for the rest of the year, where Jango sits like he did in 2002, along with the Geonosians that everyone will tire of quickly, and no one will find the Republic Commando. Then, since there is no apparent flexibility for repack waves (since each case is themed) the Commando will be scarce for the rest of the year. This wave qualifies as a weapon of mass pegwarming. Lame.

It is as he has foreseen it >:(.  One of my 4 WM's tonite got in 10 cases of wave 2.5 tonite :o. Let the pegwarming begin.... :P
With 4 or 5 more case assortments in the Geo wave still to come this spells trouble..Esp. considering there's not alot of pegs AND all 5 of the major collectors in town already have this wave; now I have to consider that WM dead for the next 2 months :(

I wanted Jared to be wrong..but as usual he looks dead on. I feel like a fool.."only now do I understand"...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on February 26, 2006, 05:01 AM
Uggh. I'd agree with that as much as I don't like agreeing with Slothus. ;)

I've passed on all the Geonosis Repacks, personally I'd like to get close to 10 Sun Fac eventually but I know I'm the minority there. The Hoth case ratio was much better than the Geonosis one. The Jango will robaly idsappear though, since he is one to a case, and kids will likely pick him up. But Poogle, 3PO, Yoda, and probably Sun Fac are going to collect some dust.

Hopefully they'll suprise us and move as well as the last two waves did. Even the Bibs have disappeared around here with the exception of a few at TRU.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 26, 2006, 10:32 AM
That Jango really is bad though, even though it is moving off the pegs.  The helmet doesn't even cover the bottom of his face and neck.

The VOTC Fett is a great template for a new Jango to be repainted and retooled.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 26, 2006, 10:40 AM
I finally found this wave at Wal*Mart today, except for Scorch and the Utapau Clone.

Holy crap, this is basically reaching epidemic proportions.  The hype around the clones should die down soon though.  But check this out, the term " star wars scorch" currently returns 91 Scorch figures.

Scalping in all of it's glory (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Saga-SCORCH-21-ORANGE-CLONE-TROOPER-26_W0QQitemZ6038937325QQcategoryZ2476QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Okay an update here...3 days later a search for "Scorch Star Wars" on eBay returns 116 Scorch figures as opposed to 91 at last check.

Where's Scorch?  There he is! (http://search.ebay.com//search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=scorch+star+wars)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 26, 2006, 02:42 PM
Impatient folks are fueling the scalpers ::) Will probably be like that for a few more weeks. Busted their efforts last nite
for socialist(the thank you kind) reasons ;).
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Gatillo on February 26, 2006, 02:50 PM
A lot of socialists must live around here because the clones are never on the pegs, just the rest of that crappy wave. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 26, 2006, 03:07 PM
That Jango really is bad though, even though it is moving off the pegs.  The helmet doesn't even cover the bottom of his face and neck.


This is why I think Hasbro has finally learned how to make better assortments. Sure, Jango may not have intresst to the avid collector for various reasons, but he still sells.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 26, 2006, 03:43 PM
Poggle and Sun Fac seem to be the only ones that sit, that and a random Yoda or C-3PO.  Just this week I got transferred to a new store and when I went in during the day 2 days ago, there were a few each of Yoda, 3PO, Poggle, Sun Fac and 1 Jango.  Today there was 1 3PO left.  This wave is moving and the Clone and Scorch never sit.  I don't see this wave bottle necking any store that gets just a few cases here and there.  My old store got 8 total cases of the Geo wave thus far and each time they sold right through.  A store that got 10 cases in one shot?  Well that's another story. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 26, 2006, 03:47 PM
not only that but that same store that got 10 in one shot got 5 the previous shipment and sold all of them!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on February 26, 2006, 03:58 PM
Q- Is it considered scalping if a JD member holds auctions on Ebay for clones bought early overseas(not for retail value 'buy it now',instead open auction to see how much money they can make)whether it's 'fun' or not? :(

Yes
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 26, 2006, 04:07 PM
Yeah I thought so too, Thanks for the confirmation.He knows who he is.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on February 26, 2006, 04:11 PM
No problem Jon. Ray said he wants to meet me to see what a nice guy he is after our altercation on here. ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 26, 2006, 04:20 PM
OK love him then..and I'll will defer my judgement-like I have the right to judge ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on February 26, 2006, 04:24 PM
I doubt that will happen cause I don't go to Frank and Sons. Too many scalpers.  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 26, 2006, 04:29 PM
Haha...or pay more than retail buy it now for figs on ebay? Even if you're a fan AND it's fun?
LOL
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on February 26, 2006, 04:40 PM
Glad Im not the only one who thinks that.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 26, 2006, 04:45 PM
Do you have any 24 hour Super WM's down there? Mine was a Super that got all those cases; they seem to move product faster. So, maybe a tip to try one of those at night to get maybe a large shipment.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on February 26, 2006, 04:54 PM
I have 2 near me but they are both riddled with guys who stand there for literally hours till they open the cases.  ::) Your really lucky to be able to go in an have the pick of the litter Jon. Im jealous.  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 26, 2006, 06:45 PM
In case you haven't been watching the front page, we've been posting high-res loose and carded photos of this wave over the last week.  Check out the pictures and drool if you haven't been lucky enough to find these guys yet!   ;)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc015.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/015_Sora_Bulq)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc016.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/016_Sun_Fac)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc017.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/017_C-3PO)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc018.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/018_Poggle_the_Lesser)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc019.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/019_Yoda)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc020.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/020_Jango_Fett)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc021.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/021_Scorch_-_Republic_Commando)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc026.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/026_Clone_Trooper_-_Utapau)


Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Commander on February 26, 2006, 07:06 PM
  :o Oh no, I havent found the Geonosis wave yet.
Does that make me a bad collector?
I meen jeez I havent even gotten all of the Carkoon wave.
My leia got eaten by my dog and my Han got busted by my hammer when I dropped it when I was hanging up some art work.
I shouldnt have left them about...  :'(
Well I did manage to save solos head...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Greg on February 26, 2006, 08:57 PM
Can you do me a favor? Can you please mail me those eight figures. In exchange, I'll give ya absolutely nothing. Thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Commander on February 26, 2006, 10:18 PM
Hehe.
Yeah, me too!
Pleeaaasssse?  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jediknight760071 on February 27, 2006, 12:07 AM
In case you haven't been watching the front page, we've been posting high-res loose and carded photos of this wave over the last week.  Check out the pictures and drool if you haven't been lucky enough to find these guys yet!   ;)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc015.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/015_Sora_Bulq)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc016.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/016_Sun_Fac)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc017.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/017_C-3PO)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc018.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/018_Poggle_the_Lesser)
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc019.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/019_Yoda)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc020.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/020_Jango_Fett)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc021.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/021_Scorch_-_Republic_Commando)(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/2-06/tsc026.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/026_Clone_Trooper_-_Utapau)




Show off. :-X :-*
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Kill_Solo on February 27, 2006, 12:35 AM
I've been reading a lot of folks kind of "tripping" out because they haven't found the Geo wave, or specifically the U. Trooper and Scorch. I think it's kind of early to be worried that you haven't found them yet. The Geo wave really wasn't slated to hit retail until March. I think the early finds have fed this frenetic frenzy of "I may never see these so I guess I'll have to order a case." I say just be cool, if you don't find what you need from the Geo wave by April then maybe start worrying. But even then, the U. Trooper and Scorch are mixed in other waves/cases, so there is really no reason to worry at all. I think the only fig from the Geo wave that isn't mixed with the other waves/cases is Sun Fac (I think). I know this has been said before, but be patient and this stuff will be everywhere.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: max_one on February 27, 2006, 01:46 AM
i hope that's the case, i've seen everyone in that wave except Scorch and the Trooper.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Delicious on February 27, 2006, 04:06 AM
I've been reading a lot of folks kind of "tripping" out because they haven't found the Geo wave, or specifically the U. Trooper and Scorch. I think it's kind of early to be worried that you haven't found them yet. The Geo wave really wasn't slated to hit retail until March. I think the early finds have fed this frenetic frenzy of "I may never see these so I guess I'll have to order a case." I say just be cool, if you don't find what you need from the Geo wave by April then maybe start worrying. But even then, the U. Trooper and Scorch are mixed in other waves/cases, so there is really no reason to worry at all. I think the only fig from the Geo wave that isn't mixed with the other waves/cases is Sun Fac (I think). I know this has been said before, but be patient and this stuff will be everywhere.

You may be right, Kill_Solo. But it's NEVER too early to for some to start crying about how unfair life is.  ;D

So called "greed" is an often-spoke of deadly sin around here, but I see envy as just (if not more) prevalent. And twice as ugly.

-DD
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 27, 2006, 04:21 AM
It's a little early to be in a panic, no doubt...  However I never saw a 41st Shocktrooper, only saw the black Clone Pilot 2 or 3 times as I recall, and the final 12 I'd have missed completely on most if not for K-Mart unloading a ton on Black Friday and on the cheap...  And even then they went fast, of course.

Ordering a case isn't always a bad idea then if you're concerned on something...  It's pretty obvious Scorch and the Utapau Trooper are going to be in big demand...  The real question is now whether or not Hasbro is going to MEET that demand.  It's so early in the year and SO much crap has already shipped...  There's a lot of year left for things to reship, but like last year there's some things that just didn't ship heavily to some areas or it was gobbled up really fast...  Sometimes getting your case order in early isn't such a bad idea, especially if you find a ration mix that fits your collecting goals and such.

Personally, I haven't seen that all Clone Trooper/Scorch case ratio yet.  ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Delicious on February 27, 2006, 04:31 AM
No one wants to order a case, Jesse. That would mean getting stuck with two Yodas and two Poggles,  and an extra Sun Fac and a repack Jango or two, and no one wants that. They want someone ELSE to order the case and get stuck with those, but make sure to give them the two they want at cost.

-DD
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on February 27, 2006, 04:34 AM
Eh, well if you're not a completist that certainly would be a dilemma...  It's a long year, so hopefully these get repacked with more desireable figures, that's for certain...  If there was a case of SOra, Sun Fac, and the Clones...  maybe a single repack like Jango perhaps, then I'd consider that case.  I want more of Sun Fac, I can sorta justify more SOra...  I can't justify another Jango except it'd make a kid happy I know.  :)  How Hasbro doesn't see the benefit of heavier packing with the Clones is beyond me...  If there's anger to be focused it's at the, once again, totally asinine case ratios that company gives out yearly. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Delicious on February 27, 2006, 04:39 AM
I agree...it seems as if Hasbro doles out the popular figures in limited quantity to get everyone worked up and searching, but all it does is insure less figures get ordered because the pegs get clogged with less popular figures and stores don't reorder. I just don't get where their breakdowns come from, and every year at Comic-Con I hammer their reps about it, but really, they dont care all that much. They're our pusher and they know it. 

-DD
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 27, 2006, 09:33 AM
I've been reading a lot of folks kind of "tripping" out because they haven't found the Geo wave, or specifically the U. Trooper and Scorch. I think it's kind of early to be worried that you haven't found them yet. The Geo wave really wasn't slated to hit retail until March. I think the early finds have fed this frenetic frenzy of "I may never see these so I guess I'll have to order a case." I say just be cool, if you don't find what you need from the Geo wave by April then maybe start worrying. But even then, the U. Trooper and Scorch are mixed in other waves/cases, so there is really no reason to worry at all. I think the only fig from the Geo wave that isn't mixed with the other waves/cases is Sun Fac (I think). I know this has been said before, but be patient and this stuff will be everywhere.

Wise words. Also, people need to consider the fact that the next wave is at least a month and a half away. Something is going to have to ship between now and then.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on February 27, 2006, 10:34 PM
Ok, I've been sick for a week, but I guess I missed something. Why do we believe it is a month and half before the next wave? I just don't see that based on how rapidly the waves have hit so far. I have feeling my mid March wave 4 will be out, which works with EE and NewForce sending stuff out late March to April for wave 4. Then again, like I said, I am probably just loopy on the cough medicine for my bronchitis.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Delicious on February 28, 2006, 02:45 AM
Whenever it is, the next wave can't come soon enough. I want to get to work articulating that Commander Cody!  ;)

-DD
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 28, 2006, 09:34 AM
Ok, I've been sick for a week, but I guess I missed something. Why do we believe it is a month and half before the next wave? I just don't see that based on how rapidly the waves have hit so far. I have feeling my mid March wave 4 will be out, which works with EE and NewForce sending stuff out late March to April for wave 4. Then again, like I said, I am probably just loopy on the cough medicine for my bronchitis.

I'm really hoping for the mid April/May release of wave 4. Stuff is getting released way too fast. :P But then again, too much stuff is set for release then. :-X
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on February 28, 2006, 02:33 PM
Want to place bets on when they're first spotted stateside? At this rate I'm really expecting to hear sightings by March 11.  :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rob on February 28, 2006, 03:16 PM
I hope they give it a week or three.  I still haven't found Scorch, the Clone, or the Weequay Jedi...  :-[
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 28, 2006, 08:34 PM
I say wave 4 hits target april 1st
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Dan on March 1, 2006, 08:46 AM
I have been a little concerned with not finding a scorch or UT clone. I know it is early per the schedule released earlier this year, but I have seen the remnants of the wave for a couple of weeks now. The Hoth wave only seemed to be a 4 week window in my neck of the woods, so that would leave me about two weeks left to hope to find these two guys. I would put the date of the first state-side sightings for the next wave sometime next week (March 6-10th), with widespread sightings by that following weekend.

The case assormtents for the rest of the year according to EE leave a lot to be desired. Particularly scorch (1 per case in a UGH wave) and the UT clone. Cody, Darth Hoth, and a couple of others look to be around in plenty come Christmas time.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 1, 2006, 09:15 AM
Want to place bets on when they're first spotted stateside? At this rate I'm really expecting to hear sightings by March 11.  :-\

I seriously guess mid April.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on March 1, 2006, 09:58 PM
I found a Utapau Clone at a St. Louis Walgreens today...

(http://chewie34.250free.com/030106clone1.jpg)

"Sir, we've found another one!"



(http://chewie34.250free.com/030106clone2.jpg)

"Is he alive?"




(http://chewie34.250free.com/030106clone3.jpg)

"Vital signs are stable, Sir.  But he appears to be very uncomfortable."




(http://chewie34.250free.com/030106clone4.jpg)

"God I can't breathe in this thing!"



(http://chewie34.250free.com/030106clone5.jpg)

"Open fire!  Repeat:  open fire!!"



(http://chewie34.250free.com/030106clone6.jpg)

"Get him out of that damn thing!"




(http://chewie34.250free.com/030106clone7.jpg)

"...cough...cough...gasp...I'm...ok........look behind you!"




(http://chewie34.250free.com/030106clone8.jpg)

"A soldier's work is never done..."



 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on March 1, 2006, 10:12 PM
And I thought I was doing good with 1 Utapau clone. :-X

That's a pretty funny little PN there BTW. :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on March 1, 2006, 10:18 PM
Thanks Ryan.  The last pic is photoshopped though, I only have 3 of those guys altogether.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on March 2, 2006, 12:03 AM
Now that was very clever and funny ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 2, 2006, 04:21 AM
My WM that got the 10 cases of geo in last Saturday night is already down to 60 figs :o. Just can't believe they're selling THAT well.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on March 2, 2006, 05:38 AM
That is actually pretty impressive. 60 figures sold in less than a week, that's good for a movie year, let alone a wave full of repacks.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Dan on March 2, 2006, 06:18 AM
I can't find a store that puts out more than one case at a time, despite the pegs being empty. And that's checking about a dozen stores more than once a week. You live in a fortunate area-
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on March 2, 2006, 10:04 AM
Yeah, I hear you Dan.

I can safely say that the only time I have ever been to a Twin Cities Wal-Mart that put out that many cases (10+) was Midnight Madness events.  If I stumble across someplace that puts out 2-3 cases, I consider myself extremely lucky that day...  ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on March 2, 2006, 10:23 AM
I found a Utapau Clone at a St. Louis Walgreens today...

Wow, so by sheer dumb luck I managed to score a Scorch (the only figure they had on the pegs) at a Minnesota Walgreens when I stopped in to buy contact solution on my way home from work.

And then, the next day, you stop by a St. Louis area Walgreens to pick up some medicine and you manage to score a lone Utapau Clone Trooper.

Freaky. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on March 2, 2006, 12:16 PM
Awesome find Jeff.   :)

I was a manager at Walgreens for over 3 years... they never get in full cases of figures, unless it's a movie year.  They get in just 1-3 figures at a time as their distribution centers bust up the cases and split them up.  Looks like we both got lucky in finding the clones rather than a Yoda or a Poggle.   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on March 3, 2006, 01:47 AM
I stopped by a local San Bruno area Walgreens to pick up a box of Trojan Magnums and a refill on my Prozac prescription and to my wonder this is what I located suspended in the child’s play thing lane:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jbrinkley/plag1.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jbrinkley/plag2.jpg)

This was the only figure they had on the pegs and praise Allah, it’s a Scorch! Finding this lone EU (which is Star Wars talk for fake) clone was kind of fortunate.  It was surrounded on the pegs by Massengill, Power Rangers, and a cuticle remover. You never know what you can find when you take the time to stop at Walgreens.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on March 3, 2006, 02:00 AM
Wait you found 2 red X's, or did you find a Scorch? :-*

Wow I guess it is time to check those Walgreens, 3 clone finds at Wal-Mart in  the last few days. :)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 3, 2006, 06:40 AM
I stopped by a local San Bruno area Walgreens to pick up a box of Trojan Magnums and a refill on my Prozac prescription

Walmart's got the cheapest price on the magnums by far, don't pay the extra few bucks at walgreens.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 3, 2006, 09:14 AM
My Walmart just put out a couple cases of the Geonosis wave.  Here's a few thoughts on this subject:

1.  The paint job on the Utapau clone grunt in my opinion is a little too fluorescent, too bright.  It looks more dull in the movie, almost like an orange with a little brown mixed in.  The paint job on this guy is easter egg orange.  I picked a couple up, but I am a little disappointed.

2.  I think Sun Fac is a generic enough geonosian that you can army build with him.  I have about 6 of him and probably will continue to buy 1 or 2 every time I go shopping.

3.  Sora Bulq and Scorch would be a lot better if they were properly articulated.  Who makes these decisions to articulate some parts and not others?  In my opinion, everything should have 14 points by now.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 3, 2006, 09:21 AM
Look at the dull brownish-orange paint on the armor of the clones to the right or Cody:

(http://starwars.wikicities.com/images/8/87/Commander_cody_2.jpg)


Now look at the more fluorescent bright orange on Hasbro's figure:

(http://chewie34.250free.com/030106clone1.jpg)

Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Dan on March 3, 2006, 10:29 AM
Newforce has re-listed cases (wave 4) with 2 scorch and 2 U- troopers! You also get a couple of Yoda's and 4 Carkoon figures, but at least no Bob For-tuna!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Mikey D on March 3, 2006, 11:06 AM
I stopped by a local San Bruno area Walgreens to pick up a box of Trojan Magnums and a refill on my Prozac prescription and to my wonder this is what I located suspended in the child’s play thing lane:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/jbrinkley/plag2.jpg)


So in your excitement of finding Scorch, you forget to pick up the rubbers and drugs?  :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jayson on March 3, 2006, 11:09 AM
I was thinking the same thing ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on March 3, 2006, 11:19 AM
Oh damn, I've been busted!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on March 3, 2006, 11:25 AM
ARMONDO  - "Damn you son of a b!tch, we got this figure in?  I wish I was a shelf stocker instead of cashier!"

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on March 4, 2006, 03:06 PM
Today at Wal*Mart I saw all the Geonosis wave except for Scorch. He'll be harder to find than ROTS Tarkin. (Although I did eventually find ROTS Tarkin) Hopefully the other upcoming EU figure, the Talz Jedi, should be easier to find.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on March 4, 2006, 03:33 PM
Hopefully the other upcoming EU figure, the Talz Jedi, should be easier to find.

I think that's a safe bet considering he's 1) not a clone and 2) looks like a steaming pile of horse ****. :D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on March 4, 2006, 04:05 PM
and 2) looks like a steaming pile of horse ****. :D

But you'll still end up buying him.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on March 4, 2006, 04:07 PM
and 2) looks like a steaming pile of horse ****. :D

But you'll still end up buying him.

Why would I do that?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on March 4, 2006, 04:09 PM
Hopefully the other upcoming EU figure, the Talz Jedi, should be easier to find.

I think that's a safe bet considering he looks like a steaming pile of horse ****. :D

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on March 4, 2006, 04:11 PM
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Like that guy, huh? LOL
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on March 4, 2006, 04:20 PM
Yeah I actually rather like the Talz Jedi myself.

It looks acurate to what he looked like in the cartoon, but movie style, so I'm not disapointed. I'm actually really looking forward to that figure.

And Getting back to Geonosis, it has been a week since I have seen a case of it, and I go out on midnight runs everynight. It is getting a wee bit frustrating because I had hoped to see a few more clones by now.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on March 4, 2006, 04:20 PM
and 2) looks like a steaming pile of horse ****. :D

But you'll still end up buying him.

Why would I do that?

Denial is the first step.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on March 4, 2006, 04:22 PM
Denial is the first step.

:)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on March 4, 2006, 04:25 PM
Denial is the first step.

:)

 ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on March 4, 2006, 04:25 PM
Yeah I actually rather like the Talz Jedi myself.

It looks acurate to what he looked like in the cartoon, but movie style, so I'm not disapointed. I'm actually really looking forward to that figure.



I totally agree with you Ryan.

Plus, he's EU, so that just adds to the coolness factor.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on March 4, 2006, 04:39 PM
I think he's horrendous. I hate a lot of the cantina aliens and other monsters as Jedi. I appreciate that GL has all kinds of species on both sides for diversity, and to show that anyone's capable of both good and/or evil. But some of the creatures just don't make sense as Jedi. Ewoks, for example, would be a ridiculous choice. They're primitive; haven't even left their planet. I can't see them being evolved enough to master the Force. Others (including Ewoks) just plain look stupid as Jedi. The Talz is one of them, for me at least. Can you see Wookiees as Jedi? Even if they were, would they wear boots? This is a species that walks barefoot because they're designed that way. They have tough, clawed feet. And so do they Talz. Why the **** has he put big, ridiculous boots over his huge clawed feet? Doesn't work for me. He just looks ridiculous to me. And don't get me started on the wolfman faling in love with the lamprey! :D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Dan on March 4, 2006, 04:54 PM
I found my first U-clone this morning  ;D

Makes the weekend a little brighter.

Now if only his commando friend had been there...


I was really going to work hard on buying less Hasbro this year. But some of these figures are simply great. I like Sun, poggle, and of course the clones. Sora doesn't impress me too much, he likes like 33% of the old Jedi three pack at 70% of the price.  And C-3PO, well, that part of the movie didn't tickle my funny bone, so to be offered two different ways to not buy it seems like overkill.

I can't wait for Death Star and Tatooine to start showing.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ben on March 4, 2006, 07:22 PM
All my local Walgreens had was Sun Fac and 3PO. I guess all the lame figures had to go somewhere.  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Diddly on March 4, 2006, 07:26 PM
Yeah, I found Poggle and Yoda here. I guess Texas and Iowa get the shaft. :P
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darby on March 4, 2006, 09:30 PM
We always do.   :(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Commander on March 4, 2006, 10:13 PM
So do we Canadians!
It seems like we get the washed out figures around here.
Heck my local superstore use to be packed with rots figures, now its been months and not a single TSC figure yet.
-sigh-  :-\ Its not that easy anymore!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 5, 2006, 03:45 AM
Was looking at my several U. clones today, noted there are different packaging variations in them. Seems like 50/50 split between the inner bubble going aroung the head AND antenna and the rest only go around the helmet, as the antenna pokes through a small hole. I know it's useless info, but something to write about I guess :-\. The 'variation' is posted on POTF2.com-a website known for posting gee-whiz type carded variations ::) 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rob on March 6, 2006, 11:00 AM
Texas definitely is getting short changed this time around.  I guess it's payback for the tons of VOTC stormtroopers that got dropped off in our state, but I've been driving around an awful lot for the last three weeks and so far haven't found any of Scorch, Sora, or the Clone.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jim on March 6, 2006, 11:46 AM
Anyone else who has not spotted this wave yet?  I have had the Hoth wave warming the pegs for what seems like a month now.  Even the Snowtroopers and AT-AT Drivers are easy to find.  Im only interested in the two Clones and am beginning to worry.  Will these two figs be shipping in later assortments?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on March 6, 2006, 11:51 AM
Im only interested in the two Clones and am beginning to worry. Will these two figs be shipping in later assortments?

The Saga Collection Wave 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C) - 1x Scorch, 1x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 3, Revision 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C1) - 1x Scorch
The Saga Collection Wave 3, Revision 2 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C2) - 1x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 3, Revision 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770C3) - 2x Scorch, 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D) - 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D1) - 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 2 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D2) - 1x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 3 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D3) - 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 4 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D4) - 1x Scorch, 2x Utapau Clone
The Saga Collection Wave 4, Revision 5 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770D5) - 2x Utapau Clone
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rob on March 6, 2006, 12:22 PM
Well that's a relief.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Gatillo on March 6, 2006, 01:42 PM
That is the reason I was not worried at all about the U clone.  He will be shipping for a while.  I am not too crazy about Scorch unless he has mad articulation.

I ordered one of those revised cases from Rick @ NFC that way I would be covered with what I want until the summer.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rob on March 6, 2006, 02:53 PM
This may have already been covered somewhere around this thread, but I'm going to skip out on digging through 27 pages to find the answer...

Of the two carded versions of C-3P0, which one is the variation and which one is the regular one?

I've found one of each and need to decide which one to keep.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jeff on March 6, 2006, 03:17 PM
Of the two carded versions of C-3P0, which one is the variation and which one is the regular one?

It is an intentional variant and both versions are currently shipping 1-per-case. 

Most cases assortment listings say 2x C-3PO, but it's really 1x Good 3PO and 1x Bad 3PO (at least it has been in all the cases I've seen put on the pegs), so technically neither version is more rare or more correct.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Brian on March 6, 2006, 03:30 PM
Its good to see that the clones are shipping in various cases for awhile.  I'd really like to get a couple of the Utapau clones, and so far all I've found from the Geo wave is the bugs, 3PO, and a Yoda.  I'd probably pick up Scorch if I found  him on the pegs, but otherwise I guess I can do without.  But those clones, I definitely hope those show up in greater numbers for everyone.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on March 6, 2006, 04:08 PM
I've been to my local Target 3 times and all times the pegs have been bare.  :'( :'( Guess I'm used to seeing full pegs all the time, because of ROTS. TRU was a mess, all they had was Baradas and Bibs.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SilverZ on March 6, 2006, 08:05 PM
I made a drive up the California's central valley last night made a ton of Walmart stops along the way, and was surprised by what was hanging on the pegs. Many of the Walmarts had lots of Poggles (one store had 8) and a few Sun Facs on the pegs, with little else.

Poggle's an obvious warmer, but I would have thought Sun Fac would be moving faster. I guess no one likes the bugs?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: SpudTrooper on March 6, 2006, 08:32 PM
waiting for someone to build a Bug army  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 7, 2006, 09:23 AM
I made a drive up the California's central valley last night made a ton of Walmart stops along the way, and was surprised by what was hanging on the pegs. Many of the Walmarts had lots of Poggles (one store had 8) and a few Sun Facs on the pegs, with little else.

Poggle's an obvious warmer, but I would have thought Sun Fac would be moving faster. I guess no one likes the bugs?

I like the bugs.  I happen to think that Sun Fac is generic enough to use as a geonosian army builder.  I've got 9 and counting...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rob on March 7, 2006, 11:44 AM
Of the two carded versions of C-3P0, which one is the variation and which one is the regular one?

It is an intentional variant and both versions are currently shipping 1-per-case. 

Most cases assortment listings say 2x C-3PO, but it's really 1x Good 3PO and 1x Bad 3PO (at least it has been in all the cases I've seen put on the pegs), so technically neither version is more rare or more correct.

Thank you sir.  Now I have to decide if I want to keep both or not... I like this packaging so much that I just might...
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 9, 2006, 10:33 AM
Walmart has raised their prices on basic 3 3/4" Saga figures to $6.63, previously $5.88
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on March 18, 2006, 05:53 PM
Possible Sun Fac variation?

I have 5.

One has heavy gold paint on the high areas on his head.
One has light gold paint on the high areas on his head.
Three have no gold paint on the high ares of his head.

Anyone hear about this?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 18, 2006, 06:40 PM
Walmart has raised their prices on basic 3 3/4" Saga figures to $6.63, previously $5.88

That was already posted here http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=11339.0

and yeah, it sucks
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Gatillo on March 18, 2006, 08:25 PM
Possible Sun Fac variation?

I have 5.

One has heavy gold paint on the high areas on his head.
One has light gold paint on the high areas on his head.
Three have no gold paint on the high ares of his head.

Anyone hear about this?

Nope.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2006, 09:04 PM
I opened a few Sun Facs today, and I am very impressed with this bug. AOTC era Geonosians couldn't stand up to get away from a Raid can. This guy is detailed, loaded with joints, and the wings and two weapons make him ultra-poseable. A great army builder if you like the prequels. Too bad they made that scar business on one side of his face, a little more generic and I might have bought a couple more.

All 4 of mine have the gold paint, but I wouldn't classify it as particularly heavy or light.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 19, 2006, 10:54 AM
I opened a few Sun Facs today, and I am very impressed with this bug. AOTC era Geonosians couldn't stand up to get away from a Raid can. This guy is detailed, loaded with joints, and the wings and two weapons make him ultra-poseable. A great army builder if you like the prequels. Too bad they made that scar business on one side of his face, a little more generic and I might have bought a couple more.


2 light scrapes with a scalpel blade and that scar paint is GONE!  Don't let it stop you from army building this guy.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 20, 2006, 09:27 PM
I agree, Sun Fac's an amazing army builder figure.  I've got 4 so far, I want dozens more, literally.  Both a pike and blaster, articulation that is about as good as it gets for a character of this nature (knees could've been done, but considering his physiology the ankles are pretty useful too).  I love this figure.  The eye scar is annoying but I haven't even altered mine.  I'm happy as-is right now.

I'm going to maybe alter some as I get more though and paint on an eye...  Like Ithorian Clergy said, a little scraping and voila...  The eye is just extra if you feel like it, but I can't hardly even see the eye Hasbro painted without straining my own. :)

It's a great figure though.  I applaud it as probably the best in this wave.  Definitely far more than what Scorch is despite his popularity right now.  That figure's legs kill it but Sun Fac's pretty good overall. 

I wish there were extra back spines for the holes where his wings are.  You could then pop the wings off (why do I picture the psycho kid we all knew in childhood who tortured flies?), and plug in the spikes.  Instant non-flying Geo!  :)

Did I mention, I love this figure?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Alpha_17 on March 20, 2006, 11:39 PM
They only figure I can find from this wave is Poggle. Yesterday Morning I went to 3 different Wal-Mart's, at every single one he was the only figure hanging on the pegs.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2006, 08:19 AM
Thanks for the scrape tip with Sun- I'll try it tonight!
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on March 21, 2006, 08:31 AM


It's a great figure though.  I applaud it as probably the best in this wave.  Definitely far more than what Scorch is despite his popularity right now.  That figure's legs kill it but Sun Fac's pretty good overall. 


From my brain, to your keyboard Jesse.  Looking at things objectively here, if you didn't have legions of scalpers, dealers, eBay entrepeneurs, and frantic fans who can't find the Utapau clone and Scorch, Sun Fac is clearly the best figure in this wave.  I too pick 1 or 2 up every time I hunt figures, and I'll keep doing that until I don't see them anymore.  I have left my share of Scorches behind on the pegs (I can't say the same for the Utapau clone though).  Scorch and Sora Bulq both had potential to be the best figure in this wave, but the articulation just kills that dead in the water.  And I love that Sun Fac isn't the "popular" one in this wave, because he is always left behind for me if I get to the store after the case is picked over.

And don't get me started on Foul Moudama.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 21, 2006, 09:36 AM


It's a great figure though.  I applaud it as probably the best in this wave.  Definitely far more than what Scorch is despite his popularity right now.  That figure's legs kill it but Sun Fac's pretty good overall. 


From my brain, to your keyboard Jesse.  Looking at things objectively here, if you didn't have legions of scalpers, dealers, eBay entrepeneurs, and frantic fans who can't find the Utapau clone and Scorch, Sun Fac is clearly the best figure in this wave. 


I'd agree as well.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 22, 2006, 01:43 AM
I'd like my second Scorch to actually try to improve it, but damned if I can find any Clone...  Stuff's dry here, so I'm just SOL it seems.  I saw a 2nd Sora Bulq tonight, and more AT-AT Drivers which are great figures...

At $6.99 my army building went to the wayside, and my desire to have a 2nd Sora Bulq to customize/have on hand, well that went by the wayside too.  It sucks...

Given Geonosis Wave is still a rare sight here, I would've bought SUn Fac's even at the $7 pricepoint, but extras of anything else (well, maybe Clones would've gotten a buy) have to be put on hold.  I hate retail right now though, I know that.  I can't find anything I want, and even if I did the prices on **** are outrageous these days.

WM's near me don't even have pegs for basic figures anymore and Targets are hit and miss as to what prices are. 
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on March 22, 2006, 01:54 AM
I'd like my second Scorch to actually try to improve it, but damned if I can find any Clone...

I've got an extra Scorch. Got any of the stuff I have listed in bold on my want list?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 22, 2006, 02:01 AM
I'm just holding hope I can find one Ook, and that we get landslides of new figures sometime soon.  WM's are putting out plan-o-gram things so maybe they're gonna have new stuff soon around here.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 22, 2006, 02:43 AM
damn..I wish I knew Jesse James I could have sent you some of those too(scorch). :(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 22, 2006, 03:58 AM
It's ok, you did more than enough favors for me already with the last shipment...  I'm holding hope he ships enough people sicken of seeing him and scalpers lose faith in Hasbro making this their year to shine.

It's March...  I can hope.

Come September if Scorch is still a bitch to find I'll go into a slight panic on the 2nd one.  :)  I'm just glad I didn't care for it enough to not want to actually army build it a lot.  Had that figure been SA I'd be thudding my head off a wall.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Rune Haako on March 23, 2006, 03:43 PM
My Sun Fac army, sorry about the quality of the pic.

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9116/picture0019qd.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Gatillo on March 23, 2006, 03:44 PM
I passed on him so many times and now everyone is saying how cool he is.  It is going to suck trying to get more than one of him now.  I settle for about 5.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Diddly on March 23, 2006, 05:54 PM
That Sun Fac army pic is REALLY cool... makes me wish prices were lower so I could snag a few more.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Reid on March 23, 2006, 05:56 PM
My Sun Fac army, sorry about the quality of the pic.

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9116/picture0019qd.jpg)

I passed on Sun Fac, and I will likely never see him again. Damn.

 >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on April 19, 2006, 07:14 PM
Anyone have the Saga Deluxe Threepio with Battle Droid factory thingy? Are the magnets in their heads visble, obtrusive? Or are they well hidden??
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Gatillo on April 19, 2006, 07:38 PM
they are visible but not obtrusive.  I do not know how to put it but they are there.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ook on April 19, 2006, 07:41 PM
they are visible but not obtrusive.  I do not know how to put it but they are there.

Thanks. I was looking at RS's pics again, and I think I can see it now in this shot (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/swsaga/sw02dlxc-3porbdfr.jpg).
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on April 19, 2006, 10:41 PM
Yeah, thats it. They are small and most easily seen when staring straight down.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 20, 2006, 12:50 AM
All I can say right now with Poggle and Sun Fac is die bugs die! They are clogging the pegs here in Utah and I fear that they may interfere with new stuff when it arrives. However, I think this is just the beginning of the summer peg warms as the pegs fill up with junk and then other items become very hard to find. Target seems to do this more so than Walmart and it is in the May to June time frame each year that the transition begins where Target is the place to get new stuff and that switches to Walmart. I wonder when the Hasbro reps will come in and clean these out like they did here with the Nemod. Warrior last year?
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Jesse James on April 20, 2006, 01:19 AM
Buy your Sun Fac's...  Buy many.  They're a good worthy army builder.  I'd say they're on-par (or better) than the AT-AT Driver IMO at this point.  You get 2 weapons, pop his wings off and he's another warrior...  If you can get past his eye scar, he's really one of the better army builders.

The leg articulation isn't bad due to their physiology too.  I can get mine in walking poses, running poses, lunging poses, standing neutral...  And arm articulation is as perfect as it can get.

With 2 unique weapons for Geo carniage, it's a great figure, so buy it while you see it.  I wish I'd been able to capitalize on Sun Fac's during the TRU sale but alas he's not at TRU's here.  The only place I see him is Target and in sparse supply in my area.

I've got around 10 I think...  I'd like a large number more though.  I'm hoping to run into a lot at WM to put on lay-away.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 20, 2006, 02:43 AM
Jesse, I have 4 and for me that is more than enough. Rough army building these at $7 a pop, and I honestly think that is where most people are on these, and so yes, it is IMO, an excellent figure, but the cost is prohibiting the type of army building the average collector would like to do.
Title: Re: Battle of Geonosis Wave
Post by: Ryan on May 6, 2006, 06:04 AM
I just bought a case fresh Scorch tonight and instead of the Scorch stand he came packed with a Jango Fett Stand. I think that may be one of the first legitimate errors I've ever seen.