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There's no way I can pick ten. I'll keep it to a wave of 6.

1 SA Qui-Gonn
2 SA Obi-Wan
3 Amidala, any new outfit
4 Destroyer Droid - folding
5 Battle Droid, new durable sculpting
6 SA Naboo Soldier

C'mon Anton - just spread your Amidala vote out to three different votes for the three different unmade outfits and you're all set - that way the mods can add one to each...

No personal agendas here  ;D

'78

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Interesting, but predictable that it turned out this way.  I think this demonstrates that once we got through the hottest EU interests this year - Quinlan Vos, Darth Revan, etc. that the interest gets much more splintered beyond that, as there is just so much material - personally I like the results as it largely MAIN characters that have recurred throughout the EU - although largely in the books.  I'd get most if not all of those.

Although I'm glad to be moving back to movie based lists  ;D

'78

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RESULTS!!!
#02 Klaatu Wooof (Vintage Jabba's Palace)
#04 Sgt Doallyn
#05 B-Wing Pilot (Resculpt)
#06 Wicket (Resculpt)
#07 Ewok Warrior Wompus

50% on this list - counting the Ewoks (since I wasn't specific) - I would have though from looking through the votes that the Y-Wing pilot would have ended up on the final list - maybe it's because people used different names.

In any case, it's a good list, and all of them are on my OVERALL want list.

'78

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I'm glad there will be some red on this thing for the re-release, but I'm getting sick of TRU's inflated prices.  Wasn't this thing $29.99 during it's POTJ release?  How does a little red paint on the vehicle/fig warrent a $5 increase??
Inflation - that was 7 years ago!  Add in higher cost of base materials (price of oil goes up, price of plastic goes up), cost of distribution goes up too...

'78

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30th Anniversary Collection / Re: Recent 30AC Purchases
« on: April 6, 2007, 03:30 PM »
Picked up most of my wave one needs this morning, need a few more each of the Honor Guard and Imperial Fleet Trooper, but otherwise....

BRING ON WAVE THREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

'78

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30th Anniversary Collection / Re: April Fool's Wave
« on: April 6, 2007, 03:29 PM »
Given Hasbro's love in for Vader - and 42N-TLR's comments today, I'd go with Funeral Vader.  Yarna will come.  ICMG will come only as a joke, Hasbro just isn't biting on that - lots of wishful thinking.

'78

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we could most certainly go down a LONG diatribe about how the PT didn't have any consistency, and what was lacking - I agree with pretty much every point you make, but like I said at the end - I think that's a separate discussion (you pretty much noted the same thing).  I always wish that I could edit together Episodes I and II into a true "Episode I" come up with a true Clone Wars Episode II and then with those two, you can still stick ROTS on the end - with a very few tweaks (mostly in the dialog).  The biggest failing in the villian is that EVERYONE knew that Palpatine was the bad guy, there was no hiding it because it was a prequel...  I could go on forever.

And it's fine to disagree, I appreciate the compliment as all I'm trying to put forward are semi-sound arguements for how the PT can have the same effect on kids - I think ALL of the failings that you and I might list about the PT - bad acting, overly CGI, etc.  made them so "Video Game" that perhaps their very failing as a film is what makes them stick with the current short attention span generation - and could be the same reason that LOTR failed to achieve any longevity.

At any rate, we'll hope Star Wars keeps enough staying power to stay popular until the TV shows get into full swing, and then see what the future holds from there.  For now though Hasbro is doing very well, so I don't see a shift any time soon!

'78


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I don't know that I agree with your point there Morgbug - sure the movies weren't as good, but that's from the perspective of a 30/40 something that was young when the first movies came out.  Yes they're better, but some of what makes them better is the nostalgia factor, and the fact that we were seven (give or take) when we first saw ANH.  Many of the kids today may grow up with the same nostalgia and love for the PT, I know I still see kids to this day that run to the pegs begging mom for an Anakin or Obi-Wan, and whenever I see that it gives me GREAT hope!

I think with the upcoming TV series will just continue the wave where ROTS left off.  The fact that we're doing as well as we are two years out is a GOOD sign that it'll just increase when new material comes along.  If anything this year isn't a desperate money grab it's a reaction to last year's surprise.  They had LOW expectations for last year, and the sales greatly exceeded their expectations - I think that's why we kept seeing so many re-mix cases through the last half of the year, as they had to go back and produce more based on the demand that they were experiencing.

As for your comparison to LOTR, obviously there's some flaw - and I think it's the fact that a superior movie doesn't mean that the toys will be popular.  LOTR was arguably a better trilogy of movies, and enjoyed immense popularity while it was out, alas it just didn't click with the toy buying public outside of it's core audience - thus when the movies went away, the interest in the line went away and only the core audience was left, which happens to be much smaller than the audience for SW.  That's a long way to say that SOMETHING about Star Wars just CLICKS with kids, it reaches them on a much more fundamental level than something like LOTR - which was a much more adult story (hmmm, circle back to my comment about *when* we saw the OT).  My wife would tell you countless stories about the boys on the playground at school playing "Star Wars" and fighting over who got to be Anakin - many of them had never even seen ROTS because they were deemed too young (by their parents) to see a PG-13 movie.

Heck, even in a year where there was a HUGE blockbuster in POTC2, the SW toys still maintained their status as the number one boy's toy property.

So while we may not have thought the movies were as good, it doesn't mean that they didn't have the desired effect - setting up a whole new generation of addicts.  The fact that the movie was designed in that regard is subject to a completely different debate, and maybe the fact that they weren't the greatest films is part of what will keep the line moving forward - how's that for a two-edged sword?

'78

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I believe we'll keep going strong until at least the end of the live action TV series - which if it starts in 2009, should run until 2013 given the episode count they're talking about - perhaps a year after that we'll see it finally slow down in popularity unless there's something else coming along to keep the interest up - another movie, another TV series, whatever - and given the Lucas empire, I strongly doubt that they'll let it go.

As far as figures are concerned, I think the line will continue to move forward very well.  Seeing as we're now effectively two years after ROTS, sales and release quantities seem very similar, and the interest seems just as strong.  The same could not be said in 1985 when Star Wars collecting previously "died."

What will the figures be?  I think they'll continue with the format for this year (obviously with tweaks and the requisite packaging changes), introducing a stronger dose of TV-based figures over the next couple of years as those productions ramp up.  Considering some of the wish lists that I've seen (my own included) I know there's plenty of remaining movie-character options - my current list is around 250 - so there's more than a third of your "600" figures.  There will always be some minor variation they can do on the main characters to keep those in the line (DS Escape Luke and Han - take the VOTC figures and add Stormtrooper belts or Lando "Ewok Celebration" - for a couple of examples) as well as PUH-LENTY of Cantina Denizens, Jabba Henchmen, Ewoks and random soldiers.

I do believe that at some point they'll move to a true "collector" series type of release where the figures get so obscure, or so long-term collector focused, that they'll have to come out separately from the main line, and likely at a higher price due to lower distribution.  Again, for example, I really want ALL of the Padme outfits that they haven't done yet, and there are something like 25 of them - it's doubtful that ALL of them will make it into the basic line.  So if I have to pay extra to get the "Kohun Attack" Padme because it's in a special collector focused line, so be it.

There will also continue to be a very healthy dose of video game and comic book characters for the EU segment - FU and similar releases will continue to garner more and more attention with collectors - Darth Revan is only the start this year, with any luck he'll be as popular as the polls indicate he will - as that just shows that the EU segment really does have a market and that they can grow it.  Many of you from that "other" board know me as EU hater, but that's only when EU is chosen in favor of movie characters - at this point I look at it a little differently, that the EU is one of the keys that will keep the interest in the line over the next several years, which may keep the movie characters coming - so long as there's interest, Hasbro will keep making them.

I also question the 600 estimate - I think it will be higher by the time you count two-packs, battle-packs, collector multi-packs and similar non-basic releases - so let's bump that to 1000 figures between now and 2018 (IF it continues that long) - I'd guess that it'll break down into something about like:

350 Movie
350 TV & "New Cannon"
300 EU - VG, Comics, Novels

Sure there will be rehashes and re-releases in that mix, but over that 10 year run, there will be a LOT of great stuff.

Remember that 2017 (40th Anniv. to the math challenged) is the year before that "end" and lord knows what Lucas will do around that time, something tells me that somewhere in the back of his mind, is the desire to "remake" Episodes 4, 5 and 6 to make them "fit" better with the PT.  An unholy comment to most here, but he's the kind that constantly meddles, so you can't rule out that sort of possibility.

Then we get to start ALL over again!

Cheers,

'78

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30th Anniversary Collection / Re: YOUR LOYALTY?
« on: April 4, 2007, 02:17 PM »
I think my loyalty is to the basic figure line - which is somewhere between.  While it is first to Star Wars, I think if somebody else picked it up, we'd have to start ALL over with Farmboy Luke, etc.  With Hasbro, at least you know that there's a BUNCH of stuff completed, and that they continue to get into the more obscure, and interesting possibilities - just don't think that would be the case if somebody else picked up the line.

As for the McTrooper - relax, it comes two-per-case in the W1R1 assortment.  Haven't had a hard time finding them so far, even have an extra that somebody locally didn't need!

'78

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Unfortunately they are not - somebody already commented on that over on RS...  I agree though, if they do ball joints, then the heads should be compatible from one figure to another.

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The Vintage Collection / Re: Hasbro Weekly Q and A
« on: April 4, 2007, 12:36 PM »
Also more on the topic of the last waves of 2007, and moving FU...

From swCollector.com

"ANSWER: The Force Unleashed figures will be moved out to Spring 2008 and will not come out this calendar year. As a result we are arranging our waves so there is continuous flow of new figures through the holidays and Spring 2008. It's too early to tell whether they will have the 30th Anniversary line look, but they will probably not have coins as they are likely to come after we have completed the 60 basic figure coins."

Let's set the table like this:

Wave 8 was to be the Jango/Padme "AOTC" wave
Wave 9 was to be the Force Unleashed wave

Original conjecture was that we were moving from a wave release schedule that looked like:

1-7,9,8

to:

1-7,8,9 - moving FU back to later in order to move them closer to the release of the game.

Now we get confirmation that it's all the way to SPRING 2008, so now we have a BIG gap from the 30AC waves 1-8 to FU in Spring 2008.

The answer, as always, is very vague -

"We are rearranging our waves" which waves? - Just 8 & 9 as they mentioned before? Something from 2008? A re-paint/re-hash wave?

Then there's the comment about coins -

"...they are likely to come after we have completed the 60 basic figure coins."

They - FU, or They, the waves you're rearranging?

If they means FU, then there's nine more figures coming with coins in the late 2007/early 2008 time frame.

It's also worth noting that there was a question about a 2007 "continuation" re-paint/re-hash wave, and a vague answer about it being "hazy."

So about the only thing that's clear right now is that without FU there are only 53 figures for the coin series this year.

Lots of ways this can unfold, I'm interested to see how people's perception of the end of 2007 have changed since this answer.

Lots to learn at the upcoming cons!

'78

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The Vintage Collection / Re: Hasbro Weekly Q and A
« on: April 4, 2007, 11:23 AM »
We also discovered that Camie, Fixer and other Anchorhead figures were actually seriously being considered - not any time soon, but that they were at least "on the radar" - just shows the depths they're looking into as far as future figures are concerned.

'78

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I think I can see one clear winner so far - and while the lists are varied, a couple of these ring through:

1) Folks want those final "vintage" replacements added to the line
2) Folks want Rebel Pilots
3) Folks want Ewoks

Jabba's palace seems to be all over the place since there is such a wide variety of choices - and a lot of them get REALLY esoteric, based on prop photos (like Cane Adiss) - that you can barely see in the film.

But that's what makes this line great!

'78

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Nice looking customs - illustrates my point exactly as to how they can do a Snowspeeder Luke in the short term - Although think they need to use the arms from the upcoming Yavin IV Luke too - as there is the same ridged pattern running down the shoulder and sleeve.

Good Work!

'78

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