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Revenge of the Sith / Re: The Mustafar Playset...
« on: April 26, 2005, 03:16 PM »
I'm curious about the piece too, but my concern is more with the size of the thing.  I'm a horrible judge of scale/distance/measurement, and the thing looks to me like it's pretty big from the photos.  Then again, I could be looking at it completely wrong and it's more along the lines of the vintage Dagobah playset.

If you figure in that the figures would be about five bucks on their own, that gives us roughly a 20 dollar pricepoint for the playset.  The last playset that was 20 bucks was the Theed Generator Complex for Episode I, and while I really loved that playset in general (I hated the Hangar), it was pretty skimpy on its own. 

So yeah, what I'm wondering is how does it compare in terms of scale to the Naboo stuff from Episode I, the Arena from AOTC, and the Dagobah playset from the vintage days, plus if it seems to be a little sturdier than the awful POTF2 Hoth and Endor playsets. 

The one redeeming factor for the Mustafar set so far is that they didn't pointlessly attach one of those Big Ass Cannons to it at a random point. 

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Other Collectibles / Re: Unleashed Again
« on: April 25, 2005, 09:23 PM »
I'm thinking that the Han Stormtrooper will probably be along the lines of the Removable Helmet Vader figure.  The current Stormie has a flesh colored head under his helmet (I haven't and will not attempt to pry it off to see if there's a face too), so it wouldn't surprise me if Hasbro just slaps a new Han Solo headsculpt on the Stormie body, gives it a removable helmet, possibly a new base, and put it out there.  The fact that so many people still haven't gotten the regular Stormtrooper continues to bother me though; these have to show up at retail sooner or later.

On a really odd note, my local WM had put out the Unleashed Chewbacca (not the rumored new one, the old rabid one) on the pegs today.  One lone figure, the card was in great condition, and it just came out of nowhere.  Very strange.  By the time I went back this evening to get some Pepsi (mmmm carbonated) it was gone.

Thank you for the clarification on what the UL situation is though Jeff, as it came across as a really cryptic (and typically overdone) Hasbro response as to the line's future.  I'm hoping that Yoda and RH Vader will be rereleased, since I still need those and I don't feel like selling my kidneys to get them.

So, were the other two rumored ROTS pieces mentioned at the con (Chewie and/or the Clone), or was it more "If we told you, we'd have to kill you" Jethro Bodeen Double-Naught Spy BS from Hasbro?

(I'm still holding out hope that the Chewie is ripping a Battle Droid to pieces) ;D

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Other Collectibles / Re: How are Hasbro's "Other" Lines Doing?
« on: April 25, 2005, 09:16 PM »
starwax, I'm stealing your format.  Lo siento mucho, mi amigo, but I'm too lazy to type it all out myself. :)

Unleashed -
Do I have any?: all but three (RH Vader, Yoda, Jango)
My opinion: Best thing out there right now IMO.
Doing well?: Very well.
Survival?: Until Hasbro decides to do Luke and Leia Unleashed coming out of Padme's womb

Jedi Force -
Do I have any?: Vader
My opinion: Vader is cool, as are the droids, but the humans look awful.
Doing well?: Vader and Yoda are, at least near me.
Survival?: The end of this year.  The fact that they are repainting Luke and Anakin already doesn't bode well.

Force Battlers -
Do I have any?: Vader (see a trend here?)
My opinion: Waste of plastic
Doing well?: Not at all.  Even Vader is starting to hang around.
Survival?: They'll be first to the clearance aisles come January.

Galactic Heroes -
Do I have any?: A few.  The Bounty Hunters and Vader/Ben.
My opinion: They look great and tempt me daily.
Doing well?: Despite the glut of ROTS first wave at WM, they seem to be doing very well.
Survival?: As long as the regular line keeps going, I think the GH stuff will keep going.

Attacktix -
Do I have any?: No.
My opinion: Waste of time, plastic, and money.  YMMV.
Doing well?: Not in my area, unless you consider occupying more shelf space per square inch and not moving any product since the product launch a success.
Survival?: I think the one OT expansion will be it, but might be my crankiness making that prediction.

Star Wars Miniatures -
Do I have any?: No.
My opinion: No real opinion.  I've intentionally stayed away.
Doing well?: I wouldn't know, as I don't pay attention.
Survival?: Probably a long time, I would guess.

Titanium Series -
Do I have any?: Slave I (which can sit on its stand in the flying position; this makes my nerdiness go into overdrive)
My opinion: They look great, but I try to not look at them.
Doing well?: Moderately well.  Certain ones sit for a long time, but others (Slave I, ISD) fly off the shelves fairly quickly.
Survival?: I'll give them one wave at mass retail before they go the way of the dodo and/or Force Battlers.  Pity too, as they are nice items.

Micro Series -
Do I have any?: No.
My opinion: Waste of time and plastic.
Doing well?: I have yet to see them move.
Survival?: Clearance aisle by the time Target does their fall reset.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: RotS - Deluxe Figures
« on: April 25, 2005, 09:04 PM »
I did the unthinkable today and asked a Target employee if they had any more deluxe figures in the back.  He was very helpful, even though he said that he could check and see if they had any of that assortment but not a specific figure (I told him I was actually wondering about the entire assortment and he said okay), so he called back to the stockroom and asked if they had any more cases.  The stock person said they did not, and I thanked him and left.  Very nice guy and he seemed geniuinely excited about the film himself.

Even though I know it's not the thread for it, Target employees have always been very nice to me and very helpful.  They have gone into the back several times to check on items and have bent over backwards to see if they have what I'm looking for.  Be it the Unleashed Vader last fall or the Slave I, they've always treated me with respect (and I extend to them the same courtesy).  It's reasons like this that I do the majority of my shopping (toy and non-toy) at Target instead of Mega-Lo-Mart next door.

DNS is a good place to order from, although their prices are always a tad higher than retail.  Still, Dave at DNS is very friendly, answers emails timely, stock status is always up to the moment, and shipping/billing has never been a problem.  If I needed to order online from one of the smaller toy retailers, it would definitely be from Dave and DNS.

Oh, and CHEWIE, could you PM me?  I wanted to ask you about some genetically bred soldiers.  ;)

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: What Hasbro really wants to do...
« on: April 25, 2005, 08:54 PM »
These are the rules of how things work according to Hasbro:

1.  Collectors are always wrong and don't understand how a business works

2.  Retailers are always wrong.  If we ship too much of something due to our ass-backwards case assortments, it is retail's fault for overordering.  If we ship too little of something, it is retail's fault for not ordering enough.

3.  Nothing is ever Hasbro's fault.

4.  Any Clone or Stormtrooper figures should ideally be packed at one per case in the final assortment of a given line so that it will be monumentally difficult to locate one at a decent price*.

5.  When all else fails, blame the collectors.  Only do this in the wake of a movie year when you will ideally have more income from children and casual buyers.  All other years, do your best to placate them by releasing random Cantina alien number 27 amongst outdated resculpts to give the illusion you are listening to them.

6.  If this is your first time at fight club, you have to fight.

7.  Instead of concentrating on lines that have proven success like the 4" line, be sure to develop endless secondary lines that will clog aisles for the next year taking space away from things that would actually sell well. 

8.  All initial waves of deluxe figures should include toys that are total crap.  Second waves, which will naturally be difficult to find given the glut of the first wave (which remember is always retail's fault for overordering), will have much cooler figures that people actually want, but if we have learned anything over the years from doing this line** it's that as long as we claim to have shipped them in decent numbers, retail can bear the brunt of the blame for not stocking them.

*SEE ALSO:  Darktrooper and Spacetrooper (1998 EU), Stormtrooper (CommTech 1999), Clone Trooper (POTJ 2002), Clone Trooper (Clone Wars 2003), Sandtrooper (OTC 2005), Target exclusive Clone Trooper (2005), Stormtrooper (VOTC 2004), Stormtrooper (Unleashed 2005)

**in actuality, they've learned very little.  Do a Google groups search for some of their highlights in case packing ratios and look how far they've come in the ten years since POTF2 started.   ::)

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: 1-32 - top sellers
« on: April 24, 2005, 11:18 PM »
Around here, the top sellers seem to be:

1.  Royal Guard (both of them)
2.  Aayla Secura
3.  Darth Vader
4.  Clone Trooper
5.  Emperor Palpatine

As far as what isn't selling...everything else.  This is making it very difficult for stores to restock any of the post-32 figures as they're either restocking with 1-32 again or they just don't have the room to put anything else out. 


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You know, reading all the horror stories about the Star Wars Line-O-Rama 2005, I'm feeling like complete and total crap about asking Tydirium to pick a Vader up for me.  While I appreciate him doing so, I feel tremendously guilty for him having to stand in line for so long just to grab me a figure. 

I'm completely in the dark about this, but how much did it cost for most people to go to the C3 Line Dance this year, counting just the passes and hotel rooms and travel expenses?  I would not be terribly surprised to find out that a lot of people didn't get to do a whole lot of anything because they had to stand in line the majority of the time. 

I'm really glad that I stayed home.  If I was there, I probably would have just walked out and come home after the first day anyway, or at the very least just hang out at Hooters getting drunk waiting on everyone else to get back. ;D

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: More Target Exclusives?
« on: April 24, 2005, 07:44 PM »
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Sucks for us, but to any corporation, people are cattle.

Worse than cattle, we're all just numbers to them.  At least with cattle they can sell the meat for various products, get milk from them, etc; with numbers, the only thing that we represent is leverage for corporations to line their own wallets.  They operate under the guise of actually caring what their customers think, but in the end scheme of things, their basic philosophy is "if you don't like it, go somewhere else."  Except for Wal-Mart, whose philosophy is, "if you don't like it, too bad, because we ran all the other people out of business and you have nowhere else to go."

But I digress.

The thing that gets me is that retail is leading Hasbro to believe that there is a future for SW toys.  To retail, Star Wars is only really profitable in a movie year or with something huge attached to the movies (e.g. the DVD box sets) to tie toy sales to.  When January 2006 hits and ROTS is just another DVD in the movie section, SW will be back to its now all too familiar four pegs for basic figures at WM, Target, and K-Mart (if they are even still around by then).  The majority of the ROTS figures will be hanging in the clearance aisle for 2 bucks a pop, and Hasbro will be citing disappointing sales for everything they did in 2005.  They will scale back SW production until a lot of the items they probably have planned for 2006 won't even see production on a large scale, retail will have been burned for the third time in six years by a massive product rollout and won't order enough, and a combined low production with low ordering will equal collecting nightmares.

The SW toy line, in non-movie years, is pretty much seen as the redheaded stepchild of the toy aisle.  If you look at any WM during a non-film year, SW has the smallest section of pegs allotted to it of any toy line in the boys' action figure aisle.  90 percent of the time the only thing that I ever saw in the SW section last year (OTC included) were lightsabers in both electronic and basic varieties.  Some will say that it's because the OTC sold so well and they flew off the shelves, but even if that is the case, empty pegs are poison for retailers.  If there's nothing there, they can't make money, and wouldn't logic dictate that they restock them constantly?

The problem with that is that retail doesn't want to order a lot of SW stuff because while the stuff sells well in the short run, in the long run, it's a disaster.  Most collectors will get their 1 or 2 of each figure and that's that.  You might get some kids or random adults buying something, but it's a real rarity in this day and age of video games and a lack of imagination.  When there isn't a movie to tie into the toys, kids aren't going to be interested, and even then their interest is dubious.

Television show or not (and let me commit heresy by saying a live action television show fills me more with dread than it does anticipation), SW is dying a slow death at retail.  Target can charge 13 dollars for an action figure all they want, since they know this is their last chance.  It's like the elephant in the room these days, and retail knows it.  Once ROTS has run its course, retail will turn its backs, and Hasbro will be caught with their pants down because they'll keep churning out the same old thing, again and again and again, and what retail didn't kill of the line will be put out of its misery by Hasbro.

And once again, we will be blamed because we just didn't buy enough of those Force Battlers to keep the line afloat.

And to keep this even remotely on topic (says the man that just went on a tirade that is even more pessimistic than I usually go on), I looked at Ebay this morning to see how out of control the Clone Trooper auctions were.  At around 10 AM there were 70 or so auctions and none of them that had been active for more than a few hours were below 30 dollars for a single figure.  And in a lot of cases, the sellers were offering multiple figures, even full cases of the figures.

But the SW line isn't dying, Hasbro has the license until 2018 or something like that.  Just pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: More Target Exclusives?
« on: April 23, 2005, 10:44 PM »
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I was beginning to reconsider my retirement, but since this **** continues, I'll be glad to leave it behind.

Trust me, Ben, I'm very close to quitting myself after all this stuff they have been pulling this year.  It's fairly obvious that Hasbro and retail are doing all they can to kill this line, either intentionally or tangentially, and even the Hasbro yay-sayers cannot dispute the fact that the pricing and availability issues are becoming a real problem.

The simple fact that someone was able to put up an entire case of the Clones on Ebay says more about this issue than I could ever hope to.  And what will Hasbro do about it?  The same thing they always do, nothing.  Can't find it?  Not our fault. 

If something is out in abundance to a point where nothing new can be found, Hasbro blames retail for overordering.  If nobody can find anything because the pegs are empty, Hasbro blames retail for not supporting the line due to underordering.  They continue to give exclusives (albeit uninteresting ones) to stores like KayBee and K-Mart who are both on their last legs, crappy ones to Wal-Mart that sit on the shelves for months and months, and Target, the most clearance driven retailer gets one exclusive after another without making them widely available to the people who want them.

If I could find some way to sell everything in one fell swoop, I'd clean out every non-Unleashed and plush Hasbro item in my collection.  I'm just so sick of toy collecting (and sick in general, which I'm sure isn't helping matters) that I'd love to wash my hands of it all.  But that won't ever happen because there are too many people out there who feel the way that I do (you among them, Ben) to be willing to pony up the kind of money for such a collection. 

And again, I'm a complete hypocrite because I keep saying, "Well I've come this far so I might as well finish."  But it's getting harder and harder to use that justification these days. 

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Anakin Starfighter Exclusive?
« on: April 23, 2005, 04:57 PM »
Well, the little placard in front of the ship in the Con pictures says it is supposed to be 19.99.  TRU.com is charging 29.99 at last check for the item, so there you go.

I'm going to pass on this one completely, as two Jedi Starfighters are enough for me.  What makes it worse is that the figure is the #2 basic Anakin with a halo that you can borrow from your Clone Wars Anakin figure (you know, the one that won't fit the figure's head and the figure that won't fit in the cockpit of his own ship) and put in the regular Anakin Fighter.  They could have at least ditched the action feature, made a soft goods skirt piece, or something.  Then again, this is Hasbro. 

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: More Target Exclusives?
« on: April 23, 2005, 04:50 PM »
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I really wish Hasbro would do soemthing about this.

As much as I wish that would happen, it won't, because Hasbro doesn't care.  They see their involvement with the product as ending when it leaves their doors and although they will spin things to sound as if they care what their consumers think, they couldn't care less.

Hasbro sees money for the Clones regardless of whether or not we are able to find them.  Target probably had to order a lot of product in return for getting these exclusives, and as long as they make money on them, Target couldn't care less about who gets them.  One person buying 12 figures at 13 dollars a pop is the same thing as 12 people buying one figure each to them.  Unless they're under tight restrictions on what they can and can't do (such as the Lava Vader), Target is going to do whatever makes Target the quickest amount of money. 

With Hasbro basically saying at the Convention (if I read this right) that the Clone is "out now" and is not subject to the same type of rules and regulations that applied to the Vader, it's just given people, be they Target managers/employees, scalpers and Ebay speculators, or even a so-called collector whose world will end if he does not obtain all 12 for his personal collection the license to more or less do whatever they want.  The thing is though that, like I said before, Hasbro doesn't care.

I don't know if anyone else has been around long enough to remember the complete disaster that was the 12" Hoth Luke and Wampa set that Target had as an exclusive.  Target basically let people buy multiples of the set and left a lot of people empty handed.  Scalping was rampant on the piece and still Hasbro (Kenner at the time) refused to make more of the set until LFL stepped in and said "Everyone who wants one will get one" and pretty much ordered Hasbro to make more. 

I have a feeling that unless LFL (who in all honesty have much more important things on their plate right now than making sure we can all get a Clone Trooper figure) steps in, this kind of thing is going to continue. 

Hey, while we're at it, let's do like I suggested in another thread (was it this one?) and make 12 different Clones and release one per month as a Target exclusive so we don't even have to stand up after they've finished reaming us.   ::)

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I was finally able to find a box of Froot Loops (strangely enough the cereal that, as my grandmother would say, I "foundered" (e.g. sickened myself) on back when the Han Stormie offer was happening, and got a saber spoon for myself (red).  I'm more than happy with it. :)

Also, as a heads-up, the local Burger King had a window cling at the drive thru window of Vader with some line about "Your focus determines your destiny" or something like that and the date 05.16.2005, so I guess we finally have our answer as to when this is all going to start with BK.

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I just wanted to post a big "thank you" to everyone from the JD staff at Indy for the excellent photo coverage.  Every other site (for the most part) that has been photographing the toys has been doing a lackluster job, obscuring details, poor lighting, and strange angles, but not JD.  You guys are doing a bang-up job that is putting all the other sites to shame!  So a big thumbs up to you guys (even though you really shouldn't see this until Monday or so at the earliest; it's a Con for god's sake!) for taking the best photographs of any SW toy site on the web!  :)

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
« on: April 22, 2005, 11:26 PM »
I can't believe that I'm going to say this, but it would be nice if they would do color/rank variants on the Clone sets (equally packed in a solid case of Clones of course, which would also be sold for retail value at websites). 

Just looking at the individual options, we've got:

Episode II Clone: Blue, Green, Red, Yellow
Episode II CC: Red, Green, Orange, Yellow
Episode IV ST: Orange, Black, White, Grey

If there was some way that Hasbro could do this where a case of six would have two of each set, and it would ship in an assortment all its own, this could be a very cool concept.  As it is though, Hasbro still can't grasp simple case assortment logic ten years in (why a Super Battle Droid is packed at anything more than 1 per case in anything past the first case period is a mystery to me), so this would be asking too much of them.


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Revenge of the Sith / Re: C3 Hasbro Q & A
« on: April 22, 2005, 11:21 PM »
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Are you a real doctor?

No, not yet.  But I'm working on it.  (Seriously). :)

EDIT:  I figure you Indy guys are out partying it up right now, but if someone on the staff at JD gets the chance to talk to someone from Hasbro, ask them how they can make snide comments about "these are action figures" on their website that more or less insult collectors and then turn around and market a five pack of cases for carded figures at Target?

You can't have it both ways, guys.  :P




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