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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Variants.
« on: March 4, 2003, 04:26 PM »
Thanks DSJ! Too bad the seller isn't more specific about the dates and he has some sentence structure challenges.

Does this mean that there is a POTJ sculpt for the AOTC release? I'll believe there are three heads when I see them together on cards.

I also still am not sure from anyones posts which of the non-potj sculpts is the more rare. At 1 per case, it looks like we have one of each and no more or less so far. Anyone have any clue yet?

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1. Ithorian (Hammerhead) Senator
2. Aqualish Senator
3. Gragra (Mos Eisley Street Vendor)
4. Ann & Tann Gella (Twi'lek Twin 2-Pack) are they coming out with these 2 soon? If so, count me in for hand maiden (orange)
5. Yarael Poof (Jedi Council Member)
6. Power (Gonk) Droid 2-Pack (need a new sculpt and better detail and articulation (wait, what would they articulate?)
7. Weazel (Pod Race Spectator/Willow)
8. Bok Askol (Pod Race Spectator)
9. Ratts Tyerell (Pod Racer)
10. Sio Bibble - Holographic (like Sidious)

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Vintage Kenner / Re:Imperial Commander variation???
« on: February 28, 2003, 10:37 AM »
I have never heard of or seen anything that has an 'Imperial Commander' listed with any variants beyond the card backs. Looks like you've found yourself a bonafide variant there. Nice Work!!!

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Other Collectibles / Re:Vintage C-3PO With Additional Part ;)
« on: February 27, 2003, 10:41 AM »
The other theory could be that George Lucas actually had a sense of humor once and wanted to give the fans something to ooh and ahh about.

I personally feel that it was an intentional thing. The lack of computer manipulation though makes that theory a litle gray. Topps used to hand paint caps on baseball players, so maybe it is a really nice paint job. Either way it is a classic boo-boo and fun to revisit every now and then.

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Vintage Kenner / Re:Vintage Variants/Errors
« on: February 27, 2003, 01:17 AM »
This just in!!!

According to Paul Levesque, who operates a personal website at: http://pages.map.com/starwars/swtoys.html

"Kenner produced millions of figures between '78 and '85 in factories in three countries; Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Mexico. When comparing the same figure manufactured in two different locations, it is not unusual to find subtle differences in molding or paint."

So the green limbs Chewbacca we have, being made in Taiwan, has these differences most likely becuase of the factory he was produced at. I would also surmise that each area had a sort of signature way of stamping their name in the figure. In this case they used a smaller font size. While this generalizes the answers, it at least will give me a good nights rest.

The only thing is, is there a way to tell what figures were manufactured at more than one site and which figures these are? Oh why must I do this to myself. A whole new can of worms!!!

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Vintage Kenner / Re:Vintage Variants/Errors
« on: February 27, 2003, 12:50 AM »
Thanks for the offer! I will definitely let you know. It can be a slow and tedious process, especially when a lot of my info comes from ebay auctions. The scrolling and clicking can get blinding at times.

I have sent my images to Star Wars Insider to see if they can answer it and maybe it will get some press. I also sent an inquiry to another figure expert and we'll see what it turns up. I am not out for any credit for this, just answers. It's been keeping me up at night!

I think question like:

How far did both sculpts of Han Solo's head make it in the vintage runs is one I haven't yet confirmed. There are rumored ROTJ carded figures of Han with both head sizes. That would be a great thing to be able to confirm or deny.

It has recently come to light that the green bowcaster for the Chewbacca in the Early Bird Kit was also packaged on some 12 back cards.

The Yoda Snake went through a lot of changes from ESB to POTF and it would be cool to have images of any and all that have been made. I have images of 4 so far. There may be more...

Many others exist, but those are 2 that come to mind right away for me...

I'll keep the Chewbacca question updated as I find out more and hope to get others involved in the tireless quest of finding, defining and verifying new and/or old variants and errors.

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Vintage Kenner / Re:Vintage Variants/Errors
« on: February 26, 2003, 03:39 PM »
There is not a definitive variant/error database that I know of that provides images of the variants/errors. Not to be biased, but I feel that the jedidefender.com variant/error checklists are pretty thorough and include all major variants known. Errors are a little tougher to track down, but a lot have been listed on our lists. We are currently in the process of revising and updating the lists to stay current and to make them more easy to read and understand. This Chewbacca thing is one to add for sure and I will shortly.  I am the author of the lists here, so I feel that I am the leading authority on these issues and questions at this site. If there are any questions you have beyond what has already been discussed here, please ask and I will search out the answer as best I can. Some (like this Chewbacca are a little more difficult to track down the origin and reason for them. Vintage stuff is difficult, because Kenner no longer exists and Hasbro is not very cooperative when it comes to answering questions about Kenner produced figures. I want you and everyone to know that you can trust that I am on the case and working very hard to get answers for this current challenging Chewie variant and I vow to do the same with any and all future questions.

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Vintage Kenner / Re:Vintage Variants/Errors
« on: February 25, 2003, 10:48 PM »
Okay, here are my 2 vintage Chewbaccas. The figure on the top is the regular variation, and the upper text is the same, but only extends to above the back of the knee area and the bottom text is large and says; 'MADE IN TAIWAN'. The figure on the bottom is the green limbs variaiton and the top text extends down to the top of the calf area and the bottom text is much smaller and says; 'HONG KONG'.



and here is a front view. It seems that they are fairly different especially in the legs (how far apart they seem) and the eye paint. Both are in very nice condition and all the limbs are on normally (not too loose or tight).



This is definitely something and I am going to get to the bottom of it! I'll report anything else I find. This is not just a variation for me, it a 'Chewbacca' variation! Being someone who prides himself on his Chewbacca figure collection, I am definitely intrigued and curious. I'll keep everyone posted and if anyone has any info or input, please let us all know about it!

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Vintage Kenner / Re:Vintage Variants/Errors
« on: February 25, 2003, 05:36 PM »
Check this out...

http://www.brianstoys.com/acatalog
Collectible_Toys_Rare_Figures_135.html

Same, but nothing further than the green limbs listed. The Early Bird Set had Chewbacca with a green crossbow, but not sure if those have or had green limbs or not...

Will get more info soon...

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Vintage Kenner / Re:Vintage Variants/Errors
« on: February 25, 2003, 12:40 PM »
I have 2 versions as well, and it gets even more strange. I never noticed the type size difference, and am really intrigued to try and find out more about it. My regular Chewie (with the large type and brown limbs) says it was made in 'Taiwan'? The green limbed and small type chewie says Hong Kong. Both have 1977 and other things. I'm doing this from memory now, but will try and scan them so  I can be more specific about this. You have basically open a can of worms for me and I won't be satisfied until I can find some answers.  I'll try and get those scans up tonight and find some more info on these strange new differences.

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Kmart has been kind...
« on: February 25, 2003, 01:28 AM »
Another great K-Mart find to report. While the local one has had nothing for a long time, the one that is by where I work hooked me up and how last Friday!!!

I walked down the aisle and when I saw what was there, I must've looked like the 2 Ephant Mon's weighing down the pegs. This time, I wasn't as generous as my first experience finding this elusive figure. I bought one then and left one for someone else, hopefully less fortunate than myself. This time I grabbed them and held them quite close in greedy lust. As I struggled to hold onto the heavy figures and search the rest of the pegs, I finally saw gold! My first Yoda Jedi Council Chair figure!!! I couldn't believe it! I had money and was at the right place at the right time. Somehow, it always seems to be a Kmart that gives me the most joy!

Just to let anyone know that this is not just blind luck...

During a week, I have 2 Kmarts, 2 Walmarts, 2 Targets and a KBToys that I visit anywhere from 2 to 5 times a week depending on the time I have. I am a hunter and always hope that the new day will bring freshly stocked pegs. I'm not the guy that waits for places to open, but I am becoming a very familiar face at all of these locations. Hopefully my helpful repegging and organization will help me win some much needed friends soon. I go if I have the money or not. If I do not, I try and have a digital camera so I can documant any variants or errors that I find for my resource files to help this site and my own passion for the unique differences that most figures have these days. I am a collector first, and a documentor second. This is my passion and life. So, when I have a good day of finds, I always need to make it a priority to share it with my fellow peg thumbers...

good luck and hunting always!

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Vintage Kenner / Re:Vintage Variants/Errors
« on: February 24, 2003, 11:47 AM »
Yeah, I forgot about that...

Let me look into it. I believe I have a 'loose' green limb Chewie and will check it out. I have not heard of that before and so I will investigate and let you know what I discover.

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Saga '02-'04 / Re:Variants.
« on: February 24, 2003, 12:16 AM »
A recent discovery has been made on a couple Ephant Mon variations. I own Ephant Mon figures with both of these variations and will post images asap. They are as follows:

1. Face color variation
a. Face color with more light gray.
b. Face color with more dark gray.

2. Hood sculpt variaition (not related to the face color).
a. The hood is against his cheek area and the bottom continues straight down.
b. Hood flows slightly away from cheek area and curves under chin.

This would make 2 sculpts of the figure because his cape is scupted as a part of him and does not move or come off. No telling which is more common, but I'll keep people posted and add more specific info soon!

Also still curious if anyone has discovered which of the head sculpts on either the Imperial Officer or Rebel Trooper is the more common one. I have not been able to find out for sure. And the existence of a POTJ sculpt is still unanswered. If anyone can confirm or deny a POTJ sculpted head from either of these figures on an AOTC/Saga card, it would be a nice thing to know.

Finally, I am curious if anyone has any idea which of the Jango Fett Final Battle variants is the more common one. The one with the fire ball effect going up or down?

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Vintage Kenner / Re:Vintage Variants/Errors
« on: February 24, 2003, 12:09 AM »
As far as I can tell, this is a more common variant of Chewbacca that made appearances on all ANH cards (12 back, 21 back...). If you look, all of his limbs are slightly green in color and the body is the intended color his limbs should be. Since  the bag is attached to his leg, it too has more of a green discolored hue. There is no real reason behind the variation, they just made them this way and released them despite the color error. If I find out more about the reason behind this color variation, I'll let you know. It's kind of the same as the yellowing stormtrooper phenomenon. It just is the way it is...

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re:Just a thought
« on: February 21, 2003, 12:07 PM »
I believe there is a Clone Wars comic about Mace Windu coming out soon that talks about the Jedi Order and many of them either not wanting to fight or losing faith in the Jedi Order and they do abandon them and join Dooku's forces. Obviously, they do not live through the clone wars and so while they disbanded, they did not live to see the birth of the Empire.

I also think a question to ask is that the Jedi are more about keeping the peace and preventing conflict. They are diplomats of a sort. The arena battle was to rescue their fellow Jedi, but it was also an act that brought about a war. Maybe they should've been more covert in their rescue attempt... I guess it wouldn't make for a good movie that way though. To start a war that ends up killing a lot of people for the lives of only a few does not seem very 'Jedi' like. You'd assume they would've known the consequences of their actions and sacrificed the few to save the many...

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