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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2009
« on: October 8, 2009, 04:00 PM »
Quote from: Scott on October  8, 2009, 01:49 PM
Wait...wait...so what about the Packers being the 3rd highest flagged team last year and the 2nd highest this year?  I guess they think they need to cheat to be competitive?  The refs should just throw flags against the non cheating team to make it closer, so you can feel better and rationalize your team getting their asses handed to them all night long?

This is exactly the kind of blind devotion to your team that I'm talking about.  How did we get from penalties to the Packers cheating?  How do you cheat by taunting?  And if you watched the game at all, you saw the Packers moving the ball well on the Vikes in just about every series.  What did Peterson have, 50 yards against them?  Please.  I think you will rarely find 400 yards of offense from a team "getting their asses handed to them all night long." 

But come on, don't avoid the question. Have you ever seen a game where a visiting team was handed 7 penalties in the first half and the opposing team received none?  I guess I could buy it if the Vikes were squeaky clean, but just look at their penalties from the 49ers game.  Delay of game, roughing the passer, defensive offsides, false start, illegal formation, and offensive holding all in the first half of the game.  But against division rival Green Bay Packers, they did ...nothing?  Oh, they were just more disciplined in this game?  Yeah, that seems pretty likely. 

I'm not going to call it cheating - that's reserved for things like piping noise into the metrodome.  The only "cheating" going on here is being done by either your optometrist or your therapist.

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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Happy Birthday Carpeteria3000 & JesseVader08!
« on: October 8, 2009, 01:25 PM »
Happy birthday guys!  Hope you had/have a fun time!

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2009
« on: October 8, 2009, 12:59 PM »
Quote from: GrandMoffNick on October  8, 2009, 12:25 PM
I try my hardest to take games for what they are. What I mean is I don't care what would have happened with out this or that penalty or if this play hadn't happened. They did and the Vikings won and it won't change. The penalties were lopsided, but I don't buy that the Vikings had just as many penalties as the Pack but the refs just didn't call them. And if they did, oh well, Vikes still won.

Amen.  Like I originally said, I'm not blaming outcome of the game solely on the play calling.  I already posted the Packers mistakes that lead to the loss and am not at all saying they would have surely won if not for said calls.  But I am not willing to just ignore the impact that refs & penalties have on the game, especially when it's this lopsided in one team's favor.  Thanks for agreeing on that point - as you said, it's not going to change the outcome of the game. 

Quote from: Scott on October  8, 2009, 12:27 PM
What were you looking for penalties?  

Oh, I don't know maybe something more balanced?  Maybe a single call against the Vikes?  Do you not find it at all unusual that the home team would have a 7-0 advantage in penalties in a heated rivalry game?  Take a look at any other game this season and tell me you've seen anything remotely close to this scenario.  I've seen plenty of games where the refs are getting too involved and making too many calls or likewise missing obvious calls that should have been made, but in most of those cases, the penalties are hitting (or not hitting) both teams.  Seven penalties on the Packers and none on the Vikings at home is just plain biased. 

Anyway, I guess we're all entitled to our own opinion and you're biased beyond the point of ever admitting any fault with your team.  I hope to God we see the exact reverse when the Vikes go to Lambeau, so that we can hear all of your objective reasoning for the calls.

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Hall of Justice / DC Universe Classics
« on: October 8, 2009, 12:29 PM »
Quote from: Paul on October  7, 2009, 07:10 PM
I snagged a Green Arrow and Black Canary on the 'bay...

I had purchased the whole wave from an ebay seller but it got "Lost" by the USPS.  I received a full refund, but by the time I found another one, it was twice what I originally had paid.  So I just sucked it up and got Ollie.

That's a pisser.  Those were the only two I picked (also via Ebay) and I just opened them the other day.  Both are excellent figures - I might even get an extra of each if I ever see them at retail for customizing.  Kudos to DC for an excellent job on these!

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The Legacy Collection / Re: Exclusives, exclusives, exclusives...
« on: October 8, 2009, 12:24 PM »
I'd like to see these go away all together.   :P  Making things harder for people to find is not the way to support collectors.  No wonder the supposed "collector market" has declined in sales lately. 

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2009
« on: October 8, 2009, 12:19 PM »
Quote from: Morgbug on October  7, 2009, 07:22 PM
As for being typically reciprocated, make up calls are BS even more so than any dubious (or not) first call, so even if the penalty had gone against the Vikings I'd rather not see that kind of crap happen.  Two dubious calls don't fix any damn thing other than to call into question the reffing for the entire game. 

Guess I don't see it that way.  It was suggested the call was made early on to let the players know that "funny business" would not be tolerated.  If that was the case, it's far more fair to make the point to both teams, don't you think?  I mean, rather than just giving one team an extra first down and 15 yards to "send a message."

I also don't buy the arguement that the Vikes would have allowed fewer points at the end if the interception wasn't reversed.  We don't really know what would have happened.  Maybe the Packers would have turned it right back over and the scoring would have been exactly the same.  Or maybe the Pack would have scored on that drive and the Vikes would have been playing from behind the rest of the game.  You can't really say how changing an interception call in the end zone when the game is tied would have changed things, which is exactly why I point to those calls as having a significant impact on the game. 

As for the rest of the calls, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that two of the biggest Viking fans on here have found ways to justify it all in their head.  Here are all of the penalties from the first half of the game:

GB - Holding
GB - False Start
GB - Taunting
GB - Holding
GB - Pass Interference & Offisides
GB - Offsides (declined, TD)
GB - Holding

I know I'm a biased as a Packer fan, but doesn't that seem just a bit unusual to anyone else?  Frankly, I'd like to think if the situation was reversed I'd be objective enough to call out the extra advantages my team received.

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Episode 1 / Re: Look what I just scored!!!
« on: October 7, 2009, 05:50 PM »
Quote from: Rob on October  7, 2009, 01:57 AM
Quote from: JediJman on September  1, 2009, 12:24 AM
So after years upon years, I have finally completed my E1 collection with the acquisition of this guy:

Darth Maul with Sith Speeder Game

I picked mine up off the Ebay.uk site for just $25 shipped.  Much cooler figure than I imagined.  He is similar to E1 styling, but has bendable knees, rotating wrists, and cloth cloak.  The cloak is dust colored on the bottom to match the sand he picked up riding his bike on Tatooine.  He also comes with a cool video-game/bike.  Well worth the purchase!   8)

****, I think you just pointed out something that I'm missing.  

Just when I thought I had them all... I didn't even know this thing existed. 

It's a unique darth maul and the sculpt wasn't sold in any other format?

It's unique.  I'll try to get a few photos of it posted - it's actually prtty cool compared to most of what was released for E1.

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2009
« on: October 7, 2009, 05:32 PM »
Quote from: Jeff on October  7, 2009, 04:43 PM
This was kind of my thoughts too.  Sort of like a "lets not get too crazy tonight" type of call, the packers just happened to be on the wrong side first. 

That's the only "taunting" specific call that I recall seeing.  There are plenty of instances where guys are shoving each other after a heated play and no call is made - anyone who watches football on any given Sunday has seen this.  I have to think that physical force would be a greater issue than standing over someone yelling - no matter how you look at it, it was a very subjective call and doubly suspicious when it goes against the visiting team. 

I can see the case you're making on trying to send a message, but I don't think that makes it right.  How about a verbal warning from the refs first if they want to send a message instead of a 15yard penalty on 3rd down?  You also typically see calls like that quickly reciprocated with a call against the other team to balance things out (Team A gets questionable pass interference, so team B gets a false start).  There were zero penalties on the Vikings in the entire first half - in fact the only call on them that I recall was a neutral zone infraction late in the game when the Pack was going for a 2pt conversion.

The packers had what seemed like a dozen or so penalties (would love to know how many total and for how many negative yards if anyone knows that), including at least two holding calls on kick returns. Arguably the two costliest calls were the 15yd taunting penalty mentioned earlier and a questionable pass interference call on Charles Woodson (anyone else notice that the flag flew AFTER the Packers interception?). Here's the recap from an ESPN writer "Replays showed Woodson making minimal, if any, contact with Sidney Rice, but Peterson plunged in for a touchdown on the next play to make it 21-14."  Minimal contact, but we saw TWO FLAGS FLY?  Really?  Both penalties were questionable and led to touchdowns. The Vikings got three first downs alone from penalties.

I am the first to admit that the Packers did not scheme well or play overly well, but in a close match like this the lopsided calls definitely had an impact. Take away either TD above and you've got a tie game at the end.  And iff there is a taunting call for 15 yards against the Vikes at Lambeau, I will be the first to point out the ridiculousness of it. 

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2009
« on: October 7, 2009, 11:51 AM »
Quote from: GrandMoffNick on October  7, 2009, 08:09 AM
My computer must have deleted the part where I said no one else taunted anyone else in the game. Just like all other penalties only a handful get called and when you stand right over the guy (don't know if you saw a replay on tv of how blatant it was) then when you get called you can't be too upset.

I didn't see a replay, so maybe it was more severe than what we saw from our seats.  I'm just a little surprised to see a taunting call on the first Vikings drive - you see guys talking smack throughout the game, but apparently standing over someone makes it much more severe.   ???  I think if there had been a taunting call on the Vikes while the Pack was making their first drive, Viking fans would be sining a different tune about it.

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The Legacy Collection / Re: Legacy Mail-Away Eopie with Qui-Gon Jinn
« on: October 6, 2009, 10:47 PM »
I sent all 3 of mine in at different times, but they all arrived together today.

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The Bullpen / Marvel Universe
« on: October 6, 2009, 05:42 PM »
Quote from: jedi_master_sal on October  6, 2009, 09:39 AM
Quote from: Diddly on October  5, 2009, 08:05 PM
I saw all 3 Wave 2 MU comic packs today but only ended up getting Hulk/Cyclops. I'll pick up the other two later, as three sets for $12.88 each is a tad bit overkill for my wallet right now.
$12.88? You're LUCKY. They are $14.99 in my parts. I'd love to pay $2+ less per pack.

Still $12.99 at Target stores in Minneapolis...for now.

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2009
« on: October 6, 2009, 05:33 PM »
Quote from: GrandMoffNick on October  6, 2009, 12:22 PM
Gotta disagree on the taunting thing Justin. Your guy standing over I guy talking smack is taunting (and pure stupidity).

So you're telling me that none of the Viking players talked smack to any of the Packer players throughout the game?  That was a pretty simply play in the middle of the field - I get major taunting calls or excessive celebration, but that's a pretty subjective call especially early in the game.

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2009
« on: October 6, 2009, 10:39 AM »
Quote from: Scott on October  6, 2009, 03:14 AM
I too got to go to the game tonight due to some last minute luck.  Weird game...again I thought the Vikings pretty much dominated but let up way too many big plays in the secondary and played way way way too conservatively in the 4th Quarter.

BTW...I think Jared Allen just got another sack :o :o :o  THat dude was unbelieveable.  I wasn't surprised the D shut down Peterson.  They seem to struggle against 3-4's.  What I was surprised by is that the Packers no longer wanted Farve on their team...they quit on him.  Dude still has lots and lots of game.  Good crowd, lots and lots of noise and another good win. The Packers D while it shut down AP...didn't even get a whiff of #4 tonight.  4-0 baby!

Where were you sitting?  I could have looked you up!  Good game, but the Vikes definitely put it away in the second half.  The Packers offense actually sliced thru the Vikings pretty well between the 20's, but the Vikes passing game was definitely clicking.  I was surprised to see a complete lack of blitzing on our part - that's the whole key to stopping Favre is getting him rattled and/or forcing him to play from behind.  There was one play where I swear he sat back in the pocket for a good 12 seconds - ridiculous.  I thought some of the calls were suspect (were there ANY penalties against the Vikes?) like the taunting call on their first drive, but overall I attribute the loss to a couple of bad turnovers and inability to put any pressure on Favre.  Will be good to see the rematch at Lambeau!

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: JD Fantasy Football 2009
« on: October 6, 2009, 10:33 AM »
Quote from: Dressel Rebel on October  6, 2009, 10:17 AM
Special thanks to the Packers o-line and Aaron Rodgers for being sacked 8 times last night.  Particularly the one with 1:30 left in the game that caused me to lose my fantasy game by 0.5 points.

Staying up until 1 AM to see that was super rewarding all around.

Ouch - that sucks.

Brent - the "over performing" bit was a sarcastic response back to Dressel, who was stating that my team is out-playing themselves.   I think players just play at the level they play and that's it, but since that was being taken as a serious arguement against my team, I threw it back at you as a joke.  Thanks for clearly making my point.   ;)

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Other Toy Lines / Re: If/When Star Wars is Gone...Would You Collect, If So, What?
« on: October 5, 2009, 06:18 PM »
I wouldn't collect anything more than I do now.  I'd still be picking up a few Marvel and DC figures here and there, but that would probably be it.

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