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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Quote Your Fellow Posters Out Of Context!
« on: January 15, 2009, 11:15 PM »
Well, there are worse problems to have, Mike.   ;)

Made a few runs on the way home

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The Clone Wars '08-'13 / Re: Jabba the Hutt Battle Pack.
« on: January 15, 2009, 11:13 PM »
New pics up at jediinsider.

http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=11503

I love that Yavin pack!  Jabba looks ho hum - not bad, but not all that excited about it.  I do like the droid though!

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The Bullpen / Marvel Universe
« on: January 15, 2009, 11:11 PM »
In a recent Toyfare, Hasbro all but confirmed Legends is dead outside of possible more 2 packs...so, I don't see the need for a new thread

So they aren't going to be releasing the Nemesis wave?

Who is in the Nemesis wave?  Is this going to be a retailer exclusive?

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2008
« on: January 15, 2009, 02:30 AM »
Wow, I think I just won "Humilty/Trust" bingo after that post.   ;)  I don't know how many different ways you can say having humility and trust and not criticizing your team is important, but I think you found every last one.  What I'm asking for is a connection between statements like this "I've seen a guy's bitching and moaning eat a team up inside" and the actual process by which the team was utterly destroyed by someone's words. 

You seem to see a connection between not calling someone out for poor play and that person being able to "trust" you on the field.  Why can't you trust a guy's ability to play because he spoke poorly of your performance?  Can you not trust a pilot who bad-mouths his co-pilot to fly a plane without crashing?  What does what he says off the field have to do with his performance on the field?  If he doesn't catch the ball, then can see hesitating before you throw to him again.  If he says you should have thrown better passes after the game, then either address it verbally or ignore it, but why does that have any bearing on your trust in his ability to perform?

If Owens is such a cancer that no one can trust him, how can he possibly continue to rank in the top five of his position year after year after year?  Of course I don't know him personally - that's why I quote his stats as a hard fact of how he performs on the field.  I have read a few pieces on his work out routine - Here's one of many that took about 30 seconds to dig up, along with some quotes from people like his trainer.  So he works hard, his stats show that he gets the job done, and he's relatively quiet until his team starts losing.  I'll ask again, given these facts, why wouldn't you trust that this type of person will continue to make plays regardless of what he says off the field? 

As for Owens and his humilty, try these on for size:

I was fined for missing a meeting and it was my fault.

Owens shows leadership, gives speech in the lockroom about the team not himself.

After achieving his 100th career TD catch, Owens criticized the Eagles for not recognizing his personal milestone.  This is a pretty major accomplishment and I'd think there would be some acknowledgement on most teams for this kind of achievement.  But just a day later, Owens ate the humble pie and apologized to the team:

"I've had an opportunity to talk with the Eagles organization and I have learned that the team does not recognize individual achievements," Owens said in a prepared statement. "It has been brought to my attention that I have offended the organization and my teammates. Therefore, I would like to apologize for any derogatory comments toward them."

And if you still want more, I think this guy sums things up pretty well. 

"Did Terrell Owens push it when he starting putting down McNabb?  When he got in a fight in the locker room?  Yes.  Have NFL players done worse things?  Yes.  Were they as publically hated?  No. " 




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The Clone Wars '08-'13 / Re: Clone Trooper Echo.
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:08 PM »
Well, I think it looks lame.  I haven't seen the episode, so maybe I'll think it's cooler afterwards, but a handprint on a clone just doesn't do it for me.

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The Clone Wars '08-'13 / Re: New Star Wars Packaging
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:06 PM »
I like the packaging.  I like it better than the current Legacy/CW packages and I think it will make finding the figures easier for kids, moms, and collectors alike.  The picture of a character stands out way more than the "iconic" white helmets.

It actually sounds like most people here are cool with the packaging, but even if they weren't, I have serious doubts that sales would be significantly impacted by pacakge design.  If your package is hard to open or not evironmentally friendly or doens't fit well in the retail stocking location then sure, packaging can negatively impact sales. 

But most collectors are going to buy this stuff whatever the package looks like and anyone not collecting is in it for the figure, not the package.  Can you come up with a serious scenario where someone doesn't buy a SW figure based on the package design?  Really?  I don't think so.

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2008
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:00 PM »
Well, your educated guesses are about as good as your debate skills it seems.  Let me give you a hand here:

#1 - Argue your own points.  First you try to insult my experience with team sports, which you have no evidence of and were blatently wrong about (twice now), then you try to prove your point by saying "everyone" is behind you.  You're going to argue on behalf of "the experience of everyone you know?"  I'm sure that you've checked the opinions of everyone you've ever known who's played team sports to get their opinion on Owens.   ::)  And I certainly believe that you have ties to the Cowboys front office where you've personally overheard the conversations that took place regarding expectations for Owens as well as their current plans for him.  Please inform the rest of us what else the Cowboys managment is "seriously considering" based on your first hand experience.  Heck, maybe you can tell us what every team is thinking based on you not knowing "too many people looking for those kinds of problems on their team."  If you need to feel like others are backing you to make your points, then you must not have much confidence in your own convictions.

#2 - If you're going to refute a point and call it poor, offer an explanation why.  You say press conferences are a bad example...okay, elaborate. Instead, you just revert to the same crap about Owens being a "cancer."  Look, you are saying that Players should not express any opinions other than positive comments about the team and their teammates.  I am asking why hold press conferences if you're essentially going to control what the players are saying?  There's no point to the dog and pony show if they're going to all say the same thing, right?  If you don't want your players expressing their opinions, then don't have them take the podium.  If you do have them talk to the press, recognize that they're human beings and they have a right to express their opinions.

#3 - Thanks for admitting that you're a poor team player.  You're inferring that you or Romo or anyone who is being called out by Owens shouldn't trust him on the field.  Owens can talk all day, but when he takes the field, he plays to win.  Do you think he would purposely drop a pass from Romo because of something Romo said about HIM?  No chance.  He's a competitor who consistently ranks in top of his position every year.  "I can't trust someone because of what they said off the field" is a poor excuse to hurt your team's chances of winning by not blocking for him or not throwing to him. 

#4 - Professional Sports is a business.  The goal of the organization is to win games, not worry about grown men's feelings.     
I really can't believe you're drawing comparisons to kids' leagues here.  Kid's aren't paid to win games and their coach's jobs aren't on the line if they lose.  I said it before, but you don't seem to be reading it, so I'll say it again.  I don't agree with Owen's comments and its not what I would do in his situation.  However, I agree with his right to say whatever he damn well wants, and I think the media does its very best to shape every word that leaves his mouth into some kind of controversy.

#5 - Refute what I say, but don't make things up.  When did I ever say that team chemistry isn't important?  Come on - that's about the same as me saying that you don't think level of talent counts for anything in the NFL.  Let's try to be honest here at the very least.  Why don't you address things like your comments that Owens bounces around the league despite the fact that he's only been on 3 teams?

What I'd really like to hear you explain is the process by which Owens is a cancer that destroys teams.  We have his stats - top 5 receiver in scoring and yards for how many seasons now?  So whatever else he is, we know that Owens produces on the field.  So if his detriment is limited to what he says off the field, that would seem to indicate that he's just hurting people's feelings and that in turn causes those around him to not play as well.  But he only seems to complain when his team is already playing poorly.  Maybe when someone's not doing their job as well as they should, they should be called out for it as a motivator to make them work harder.  How would anyone know they're not doing well in your fantasy world of never "being honest about your team?"

Jesse, I'm all for being nice - read the signature on my posts sometime.  I don't particularly like Owens as a person and I think he says a lot of dumb things that aren't helpful to anyone.  I guess I could subscribe to the clone mentality that he's a crappy person and we'd all be better off without him, but I just don't believe that.  He works hard, he produces on the field, and while his mouth churns out some pretty worthless stuff, most of it seems to stem from a desire to win games.  I'll take a competitor with a hard work ethic and a desire to win over Mr. Rogers any day of the week and twice on Sunday. 


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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2008
« on: January 14, 2009, 12:41 AM »
Proving to me that you've never been a part of a "team" sport in your life... 

...proving to me that your understanding of "evidence" is seriously flawed.  I have in fact participated in several team sports in my day, so I guess we've learned that you're not a very good judge of people.  Be a grown up and argue your point without trying to insult my "experience with team sports" Jesse.  ::)

Football teams are not a democracy - I agree.  Doesn't mean that being part of a team means you lose your freedom of speech.  If you're too afraid of someone challenging your sacred opinion of the way things are run, then don't create a forum for those people to express their thoughts.  Where is the logic in holding press conferences for players if they are all supposed to follow a script of what to say?  I think you have team sports confused with the military, sir.

And please don't suggest that every team in the NFL can suddenly afford an additional $7-8 million per year, plus a signing bonus.  There's a little something called a salary cap that you may not have heard of, and even if he is the most talented WR in the league, he needs a supporting cast to be successful.  The guy has been on three teams since 1996 and you call that "Sailing around the NFL?"  Brett Favre's been on three teams now too, so I suppose you feel the same about him.  How about Edggerin James and Kurt Warner?  Those guys must all have attitude problems.

Do I think Owens has created the media frenzy that explodes every time he talks to the public?  You bet.  But if you don't realize that people start looking for negatives and drawing unfair comparisons to exploit someone they don't like, then you need a reality check.  In fact, you have no further to look than yourself Jesse.  The guy has been on three teams, yet you suggest that he's bouncing around the league wearing out his welcome.  Does Owens get caught doing drugs or shooting people or dogfighting?  No - he says unpopular things.  And you compare that to the likes of Vick and Burress and their ilk?  That's messed up.   

Listen, I don't agree with a lot of what Owens says or what he does or even the way he does it.  But my not agreeing with it doesn't make it wrong.  Are there potential downstream ramifications?  Sure!  Any time you voice an opinion that differs from someone else's, you run the risk of retaliation.  If your arguement is that an O-line wouldn't block as well for Owens or that the QB would purposely look elsewhere because of his comments, then you should realize that it's those guys who are not giving their all for the team.  Cripes, they are just words after all.  If you're going to go cry yourself to sleep because Owens publicly criticized you then maybe you need to grow a pair.

Anyway, we obviously just need to agree to disagree.  I don't care if it's an unpopular choice, I'd take a talented hard working guy like Owens on my team any day of the week.

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Feedback / Re: JediMoses' feedback
« on: January 13, 2009, 11:45 PM »
+2 To Matty Dawg.  I picked up several basic figs that I needed last month and he added a comic pack to his internet order to help me out as well.  Thanks for all the help picking up new figs this month!

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Feedback / Re: jedijaybird's feedback
« on: January 13, 2009, 11:43 PM »
More + + + for Jayson (3 in a row!?).  Big THANK YOU for picking up the Leai/R2 GH set, Pumpkin Pad Sandtrooper, and Deep Fried Bail.  You just saved me a ton of gas money trying to track down some hard to find goodies. 

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Feedback / Re: iFett's (pka infinittifett) feedback
« on: January 13, 2009, 11:41 PM »
Thanks to Mike for prompt payment on Joh Yowza and Sy Snootles.  I'm suddenly so much happier with my own name...

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Feedback / Re: Jeff's (pka Nataku) feedback
« on: January 13, 2009, 11:40 PM »
+1 to the retired guy for helping me track down a Black Pauldron Sandtrooper, and for prompt payment on some Yo Joe army builders.

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Happy birthday guys - hope you old timers get some good gifts.   ;)

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Collections / Re: JediJman's 12" Collection & Customz
« on: January 13, 2009, 08:44 AM »
I didn't know you were into Barbie dolls Justin.   ;D   

Nice setup though.

Well, aren't they all "dolls?"   ;)  This is what happens when you start opening your stuff Mikey. 

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JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL Regular Season 2008
« on: January 13, 2009, 08:42 AM »
Yes, out of every player interviewed, the media ONLY ever focuses on TO, every Sunday, week-in-and-week-out...  Only Owens.  ;)

Talk about living in a fantasy world.  Re-read my post and tell me where I said that Owens was the ONLY player scrutinized by the media.  Of course they cover other players and they are willing to sensationalize anything that would cause contraversy.  That's why they cover Owens so much, because you can almost guarante he's going to say something other than the usual PC that comes from everyone else.

The point was that TO gets a hell of a lot more media focus than most guys and the media will take anything he says and try to spin it.  I remember a game last year where they kept showing clips of what looked like Owens screaming at Romo on the sidelines.  There were reports everywhere of how TO was going off the handle again.  Then we actually heard from Romo, Owens, and others and he was just trying to get the offense excited - not throwing blame at anyone.  I'm not saying the guy doesn't say dumb things, but if you don't think he gets more attention than most NFL players then you're living in a fantasy world.

One more thing since you brought it up - I don't necessarily think it's wrong for Owens to come out and say "we could have won if the O-line had performed better."  Maybe that's true and maybe it fires up the O-line a little bit.  He should take on more of the blame himself too though.  Your example of Willie Parker basically says you should never speak out against the organization even if it's something they feel strongly about - I don't subscribe to that.  You could just as easily say "The Steelers organization doesn't put up with free thought or freedom of speech."  If you want NFL players to act like good little sheep, don't put a camera and a mike in front of them every week.  These guys are here to play football, not make pretty speeches and kiss management butt.

And I guarantee you that most teams not interested in Owens are more afraid of his salary than his mouth.

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