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The Legacy Collection '08-'10 / Re: Wal-Mart Droid Factory Sets
« on: July 29, 2009, 11:48 PM »
Wow, I figured the first reply would be "my store doesn't get any exlusives, so your numbers are #$%#@%$^".   ;)



No that will be the second reply  ;D

As a backup to what JOT has said, Wal-Mart as the biggest retailer in the nation (the world actually) has tremendous buying power, they often make or break many products solely on the determination of selling the product or not. Hasbro has indicated this in the past and it has been referenced in business news many times over the year. So it's certainly likely that this price point is set by Wal-Mart as at best the explanation JOT provided or at worst a perversion of tremendous proportions. If this set is anything like the last set which was reported as clearancing out all over the country, WM and Hasbro will be disappointed in the overall results.

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The Legacy Collection '08-'10 / Re: Willrow Hood
« on: July 29, 2009, 11:41 PM »
As Adam pointed out Lucasfilm is the one that is saying no to the sisters being made. That may change since one of them died. It would be nice that the other release the rights upon her death. >:D
I do not get why people are not satisfied with the grim reality of these being off limits.

People are not satisfied because the issue of likeness can be easily worked around as I mentioned in a previous discussion on the topic (not to stray away from the Willrow Hood topic, but this deserves an answer I think)...

I'm of the thinking that these are still valid choices to suggest as Hasbro could still make these figures IF they were not to use the likenesses of the actresses. The headsculpts and any packaging material can be made such that they do not look like the actresses - we know Hasbro already does this as many times the headsculpts don't match the actors and they use stylized imagery for their packaging. Unless Lucasfilm puts the kabosh on this, I don't see any reason for Hasbro not making the figures so long as they don't resemble the actresses that played the characters. In fact you can go one step further, in EU the two women we see in the Cantina have been established as NOT being the Tonnika Sisters, but instead members of the Mistryl Shadow Guard. So in essence Hasbro could create a new look facial look for the sisters with the proper explanation in the bio.

It's doable, but Hasbro pretty much has their panties in a bunch regarding this, so a much desired pair of figures is left to apparently never be done. Meanwhile we got the re-sculpt no one wanted in the form of one of the biggest pegwarmers from the vintage AND modern eras. I'm not taking Scott's bet, I'm SURE that the Rancor Keeper if produced in standard numbers will be pegwarming in the same fashion as Saesee Tiin and Breha Organa.

Willrow Hood on the other hand if not produced in standard numbers, which is quite possible, I believe will not be readily available after the first month or two of full retail distribution. Similar to the Concept Anakin right now, I can find every other AOTC wave figure easily but not that figure, or the 30AC McQuarries of 07.

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The Clone Wars '08-'13 / Re: Clone Wars ARC-170 (Imperial Deco)
« on: July 29, 2009, 11:33 PM »
My local Toys R Us had two of these on the shelf today, and while I could go into my shock, dismay, anger, bewilderment, nausea, confusion, denial (as in "This has to be a mistake"), and/or amusement, I won't.  I'll just let the price speak for itself:

$79.99

Okay, I will make one comment.  HOLY.  *******.  ****.   :o

Saw this myself at a TRU this evening (JOT: the Golf Mill store as an FYI) and indeed it was 79.99. Holy hannah, what an insane price, but if what Jeff was told by Hasbro is correct then the retailers are shooting themselves in the foot as this ship may very well rot on shelves.

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The Legacy Collection '08-'10 / Re: Wal-Mart Droid Factory Sets
« on: July 29, 2009, 02:01 PM »
Is it just me who gets the impression that there are a lot of people collecting SW toys who don't actually enjoy it? And I do recognize the difference between being pissed about price increases and not enjoying collecting.

I love it, which is why I do it.

we hear this sort of thing mostly from completists and carded collectors. it's an OCD thing I think, I used to have a desire to have every single figure made but I've gotten away from that as it's grown absurd over the past 5 years or so. but a desire is a bit different from a need, where we often hear carded collectors (sorry guys, not intending to pick on you but many of you are the best example out there) saying that they need to get such and such figure even though they hate it. it amazes me to hear this nowadays, with so much crap out there does anyone really NEED more crap?

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The Legacy Collection '08-'10 / Re: Funeral Pyre Vader w/ Luke
« on: July 29, 2009, 12:01 AM »
The Phase 1 Darktrooper?  A figure from a DOS game?  Hardly what I'd call up and coming media to base it off of.  I see no reason a Vlix won't happen, based on that kind of figure alone.

DOS!
That's funny, I don't see "main line" or "exclusive" anywhere in what I said.  Looks like you saw what you wanted to see.   (No worries, I've done the same.)

In the sentence that follows you speak directly to "other" exclusives, so it can be inferred that the Pyre set was included in the "other" classification.

A 95% positive forum approval can still be a false positive-- who wouldn't say yes if Hasbro said "we're totally going to make the Lars Homestead for $60, who wants it?"

Here we are being given the chance to see the potential product before plans to bring it to market have been settled. With the Lars set is was more like 'here you go, buy this ****".

That's pretty much exactly my point-- this is an item with a smaller appeal.  Have you seen the shrinking edition sizes on Gentle Giant and Sideshow items, and the massive drop-off in interest which caused them?

Probably due to the marked increase in prices more than collector interest.

Doesn't pricing directly influence the collector interest? I've not purchased the Lars Homestead set - even though I'd really like to have it, I can't justify the $50 (now $40 thanks to clearance) price tag for an item that is essentially $25-$30 worth of toys. Now this Funeral Pyre set looks very interesting to me and I agree with Jesse that it would make a neat centerpiece to an Endor display, but ithis too is maybe at most a $25-$30 item. If it goes beyond that price I'll definitely pass on it and it sounds like many people here would as well. So the price is clearly determining whether or not people will buy the item even if they are thrilled to see the item get developed in the first place.

I also think, along the idea that Adam posted, that this item would better be suited to sell at a $30+ price point if there was some sort of promotion behind it such as an anniversary for ROTJ (last year's 25th anniversary would have been perfect) or some arbitrary 2000th, 2500th, 3000th, etc, figure. As this doesn't have the mainline appeal to get interest from all the brick and mortars, I see this being an exclusive as others have mentioned, in which case Hasbro would make it in their best interest to have a good control of how many units are produced so that this not meet the fate of other interesting collector only exclusives such as the Lars Homestead, Disturbance in the Force, etc...

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The Legacy Collection '08-'10 / Re: Wal-Mart Droid Factory Sets
« on: July 28, 2009, 02:20 PM »
Another annoying thing, the Corran uses the Luke X-wing body, complete with lightsaber.  >:(

The use of the Luke X-Wing body is actually pretty accurate - Luke and Corran are described to be roughly the same height, so using the shorter body for Corran is not an issue to me. My biggest problem with the figure is that Hasbro chose not to color the uniform green as depicted in the comics and described in the novels.

Why is it an issue for Corran to have the same hilt as Luke?  The Luke saber is from ANH & ESB, right?  The one that was Anakin's, right?  Corran was also a Jedi, in one of the books he found what was his grandfather's (IIRC) saber in a jedi museum, or was it some sort of trophy room that Palpatine had...  In any case, Corran's saber could have been a similar vintage to Luke's so its no inconceivable that they would have similar designs, is it?  Now that's an long justification, for sure, but I can't recall too many visuals of Corran and his saber, so I'm willing to give Hasbro a pass on that.

The cover of I, Jedi does show that Corran (in disguise as Keiran Halcyon) does have a different lightsaber hilt compared to Luke/Anakin. However, I don't think it's a big deal here that he got the wrong saber since we can always give him another saber from our many spares (assuming you're like me and have a ton of extra sabers). Most likely the factory is the cause of the wrong saber as they probably just threw it in when they put together the order to produce the figure since the saber hilt comes with Luke X-Wing body - this could have been done regardless if Hasbro designed a new saber or perhaps had not even indicated a saber should be included. That would be interesting to hear on Hasbro's part...

Oh yeah almost forgot to mention, the price for these sets sucks! Like everyone else has stated the inflation on the costs of these 2 packs is absurd compared to previous years regardless if the per/figure cost breaks down to current retail. When compared to other existing 2-packs, namely the comic packs, we're still being asked to pay $4-5 more than we should be. I'll still be buying 2 Corran Horn sets, though the rest of the sets aren't happening even though I'd love to build the Darktrooper.

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The Legacy Collection '08-'10 / Re: San Diego Comic-Con 2009
« on: July 27, 2009, 06:27 PM »

I'll be honest though, looking at Scott's list he copied, it's sad that all that stuff is even remotely being swirled around as "rumor".  I remember a time when ACTUAL rumors got out in very sparse numbers in a year, and lists never got that big.  It's sad really, as it's used to somehow entertain the less informed and keep them hooked.  I'm always up for seeing rumor lists, but this year it really seemed to spiral out of control, and it's just turned into obvious wishing by a lot of these "sources", who haven't earned any credibility I can see.

And therein lies the problem when you have dozens of people who think their **** don't stink because that one time their guess became reality, when all they did was throw the proverbial dart at the board and hit something that was obvious. The rumor mill nowaday is mostly full of ****, not even fun to look at any more. Once in a while something interesting will pop up and half the internets will claim they knew about it first while the other half claims it's bull****. And unlike most things in life, the truth usually isn't somewhere in the middle...

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Vintage Kenner / Re: Latest vintage acquisition
« on: July 25, 2009, 08:08 PM »
If I only knew!   ;)

That would have been the smart thing, but I'm happy.

and that's the most important thing - the set looks beautiful, kudos on a great score!

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From the G4 blog:

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5:56 Stephen Johnson:  The next Star Wars Celebration will be held in.... 
5:57 Stephen Johnson:  oops. there is no exact time or place, but Star Wars Celebration 5 will be held next summer.

Yeah, that narrowed it down. Summer in the US is like what, Memorial Day weekend to the Labor Day weekend? (May-September).

How in Sam's hell can you make an announcement on CV if you don't have a place or date yet. Nice blunder!   ::)

Perhaps Hasbro jumping the gun forced LFL to make the announcement that it would be happening but couldn't go into detail for contractual reasons such as the paperwork not being set in stone, an agreed upon method for making the announcement (G4 is showing the spectacular tomorrow, perhaps the details are to come there in added bit), or maybe the Lucas gang just likes ******* with us.

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Ooohh... looks like a Walmart exclusive Dllr Npe & Plourr Ilo comic pack is coming this Fall!  I loves me some more Rogue Squadron Comic Packs!  :)

Yeah, once again WM's packs are actually the most interesting ones.  Go figure. :)  They could give me different pilot headsculpts till the cows come home and I'd buy them.

And here I was all ready to contemplate making a Plourr, big ups to Walmart for getting us another cool Rogue pack. Most of these comic packs look great, the clone sets though are such a big snooze to me, they would be considered a waste if it were not for the fact that Hasbro includes these in the assortments so they can bring the goodness to other sets like the Ulic Qel-Droma/Exar Kun set.

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Now all we need is a Dark Trooper phase II.


Isn't that the BAD for the Wal-Mart Exclusive Droid Factory sets? Or is that a different Dark Trooper?

This wave looks completely awesome - the details shown in the pics are outstanding and I'm excited to see Jacen and Jaina for the first time in plastic form. What's up with the slutty Shaak Ti? Is that how she appeared in the game? Why did Hasbro go with a resculpt of the Spacetrooper, I'd be curious to know what led to that decision. And a big yay to seeing BG-J38, I've been wanting that droid since I saw him in an ROTJ Coloring book (Luke on cover) back in 1983.

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I don't know, the right leg looks warped to me from the knee joint up. A look at the slide presentation on SW.com also shows the BD to have a warped leg. Maybe it's just the prototypes they're using for the photography and display, hopefully the production item is a far better quality than it appears to me at this time. I want this to be a sturdy and quality Battle Droid, but we've been burned so many times in the last 7 years that the cynic in me doesn't see the hope that you do JJ.

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there's only one set that looks like I'd want to army build - the Battle Droid set.

Hasbro said that the new BD sculpt there will definitely be carried forward - you can expect to see it again in many colors/deco in future box sets/cards/etc.

I'm conflicted about this. While it's a nice upgrade, Hasbro can do better. All they did was add ball joints to the shoulders and hips.

In addition to the shoulders and hips they put joints in the ankle, as well as bringing together many features from many different figures. (articulated arms, knees, retracting head, etc.) I will say that the apparent lack of a two handed grip is a letdown. IG-88 proves that Hasbro can make droids with thin limbs SA. It's not a deal breaker, as I think the CW Battle Droid is fine, but it sure isn't great either.

My concern for these Battle Droids would be that it appears they're still using thinner plastic for the limbs which will lead to the eventual warping, especially at the knee/elbow joints. Regardless of extra articulation as it stands now, I don't see how these BD's are any better than the ones we've received in the last 7 years.

http://www.rebelscum.com/sdcc09/hasbro-sw/IMG_1732.JPG

If in Hasbro's own displays the Battle Droid is bent backwards due to warping, this pretty much shows that the plastic is going to suck. I'll be sticking with the Episode 1 Battle Droids.

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The Legacy Collection '08-'10 / Re: Willrow Hood
« on: July 24, 2009, 01:41 PM »
Congrats Scott on getting your vision realized. My question for you though is, will you give Willrow a ice cream scoop to hold in his right hand? :)

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Almost there, just need the location & then let the games begin.  ;D   8)

One word: Chicago!

 ;D

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