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Yeah that was a bit of a mind F...  Freaky.  Sad.  You look for a "good guy" and they die like flies.

This is actually what I'm really coming to admire in Martin's storytelling.  He presents us with obvious, off the shelf good guys to keep our attention occupied while he takes his time fully developing the next wave of more complex, nuanced "good guys" for us to cheer for.

Middle of book 3.

I don't know...I think you may have to deal with overlap or you're going to be confused by storylines that HBO merged up.

Middle of book 3 is where the red wedding takes place.  You could start there and be current, but there are going to be a lot of characters that you've not been properly introduced to.

Book 1 was almost chapter by chapter the same as season one.

Book 2 HBO compressed a lot of stuff.  I think I'd start with Book 2, knowing that you're in territory you've already covered but picking up depth and details that inform what is going on in the later books.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Official Television Thread
« on: May 21, 2013, 12:06 PM »
Game of Thrones
Walking Dead
Mad Men - although this season is failing to grab me for some reason.
The Newsroom

Drop in on Veep when it's on. 

Otherwise my wife has hgtv/DIY/food on a constant loop.

Wish Cable would set up a package with just those five networks.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: X-Men/Wolverine Movies
« on: May 21, 2013, 12:02 PM »
Looks good enough for me. J
ackman was born to play wolverine

I think it would be more confusing to read after the show than before since most of the changes are consolidations of plotlines and characters for TV.  Could get confusing in the book to have to see familiar snippets in different characters' paths.

Damn you GOT - I actually find myself starting to care about what happens to Jamie Lannister!  The thing that really stood out to me in the scene where Dany was dealing with the slave trader was how much she had taken on the mannerisms and tone if Viserys - it was almost uncanny.

Jaime Lannister may be one of the most dynamicly developed characters I've ever come across in any literature.

I've assumed that the weddings would take place concurrently, cutting back and forth within the same episode. That's how I'd do it, anyway.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Top 5 Hotties
« on: April 24, 2013, 04:56 PM »

um....who is she.  My list just got rearranged.

The scenes with Arya were HBO's creation, but in the books I still found Tywin to be at least somewhat sympathetic as a character.  Still an ass, but he definitely wasn't a two dimensional villain once you understood how the Mad King had treated him and how much he valued his legacy.

The Danni language thing I actually think HBO handled better than the book did.  Or at least it had even more impact on the screen than on the page. 

For the life of me, I can't remember a scene in the book like the one with the sorcerer in the crate.  I remember Varys telling his story of his mutilation, but not the special delivery.

The writers are so good at their craft that they can make a person feel pity for even the loathsome Jamie Lannister.

The thing that impresses me the most about Martin's writing in the novels is his ability to carefully, methodically develop a character fully into a villain you despise and then in one chapter flip your perceptions entirely on end and make turn the villain into the hero you're rooting for. 


And DAMN, does it take a lot of effort to make the discussion of this theory come across as both cryptic and spoiler free!

What he said...the title of the thread warns of spoilers, but still.  This theory comes is such a mind blowing "holy ****" moment that it feels like a HUGE spoiler.  Changes everything.  Awesome. 

I know what L means....Bill if you want I'll message you.  But if you've not run across this theory, it will rock your world.

Sorry for the unintended spoiler.   ;)

It's funny, if not for the HBO show I wouldn't have any idea who it was in the books.  The name was completely dead to me.

This is definitely one of the "go-to" devices for Martin....stop talking about a minor character for thousands of pages, bring them back in under a different name, REVEAL!

I too really think the HBO show does a good job adapting to this by showing us what happened in the interim instead of trying to pull off an awkward surprise twist.

Last night, I couldn't help picturing Jaime Lannister/Nikolaj Coster-Waldau as a Jedi...or Obi-Wan, maybe it is the beard, hairstyle and accent :P

Maybe it's the missing appendage.

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