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Title: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Muftak on July 23, 2025, 09:10 PM
Pulse just announced on Facebook that a TVC HasLab will be "launching" at SDCC.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Jeff on July 23, 2025, 10:28 PM
Spinning this off into it's own thread now that it's official via the various Hasbro Pulse social channels (this was the Twitter version):

"STAR WARS The Vintage Collection x HasLab - new campaign launching at San Diego Comic Con.

Stay tuned for more information!

#STARWARS #STARWARSTheVintageCollect #STARWARSTVC  #HasbroPulse #Hasbro #HasLab #HasbroPulseSDCC2025"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwlYswfbgAA1nPw.jpg)


Also, early pics from the Hasbro Booth show a large HasLab case waiting to show off the project.  There is sand in the display case so people seem to be guessing Tatooine (Sandcrawler or Krayt Dragon for some reason) or maybe Geonosis arena sand and Republic Gunship.  I guess U-Wing could work if that is Scarif beach sand too?  Also just read some people guessing a Jabba's BArge re-do too for some reason?
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Rob on July 23, 2025, 11:09 PM
Sandcrawler makes the most sense to me still…
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: McMetal on July 24, 2025, 08:26 AM
I still think Steve was hinting when he said “look to the skies!” Or whatever on his Instagram feed.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Rob on July 24, 2025, 09:57 AM
Yeah I suppose that does make it less likely, forgot about that.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 24, 2025, 11:00 AM
If they were to redo the Khetanna, it would kill the Haslab model.

Given Steve's hint, possibly a better U-Wing?  We better get all of the Rogue One squad if that's the case.  I also want pilots and gunners like Bistan!

Could it be the Marauder?

Honestly, I wish they would deliver the Cantina before asking us to back another TVC Haslab.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2025, 11:29 AM
I still think Steve was hinting when he said “look to the skies!” Or whatever on his Instagram feed.

In AOTC, when the Jedi are surrounded in the Arena, Padme says "Look!" and all the main characters look to the sky to see the Republic Gunships arriving......

https://youtu.be/N7E7nBxNoas?t=28

Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Rob on July 24, 2025, 12:08 PM
A gunship still makes sense... people are suggesting LAAT too, but I can't even imagine how huge an LAAT Gunship would have to be to make it work.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Ryan on July 24, 2025, 12:56 PM
Maybe the sand in the case is just for the Cantina?

I'm not sure what I want from this one. The last three, and the BMF are all so big that I am really running out of space for many more large vehicles. I'd be happy with the Marauder or a U-Wing. The original U-Wing was way too much of a kid's toy for me.

I also am increasingly leaning towards it being a new Gunship, which I could be on board with, but am not overly excited about... I had sold off all 4 versions of mine 15 years ago, and now they all go for close to $300. There hasn't been a rerelease of the Gunship in nearly 15 years. A large portion of the current and active Hasbro collector base is now 20-30-year-old collectors who were kids during the Prequel era. I think there has been a lot of clamoring and demand among that group for a new Gunship.

Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Rob on July 24, 2025, 01:27 PM
I'd be surprised if the Sand isn't for the Haslab since they've been teasing it that way on social media.  It would be a good fake out though!
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Ryan on July 24, 2025, 01:30 PM
Ah, I missed that in the last posts and am not really on social media. I guess sand would make sense for the gunship, too.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2025, 01:39 PM
I don't need another gunship.

A really well done Sandcrawler with opening side and a bit of a playset would be pretty sweet, although I also feel like the versions we have so far are fine.  This is not at the top of my wish list.

No idea what they would do for tiers or pack-ins as we've got a bazillion different droids and quite a few Jawas.  I haven't done an inventory, but my guess is that they've made every droid from the ANH Lars Homestead scene.  Maybe some moisture vaporators or other desert life doo-dads.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Muftak on July 24, 2025, 01:53 PM
Jayson posted the modified quote "around the HasLab, a perimeter create." So I'm calling the guessing game over at this point.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: McMetal on July 24, 2025, 01:56 PM
Well, I have at least two or three Gunships in a closet somewhere, so that’s a hard pass for me.  :(
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Rob on July 24, 2025, 02:24 PM
I don't need another gunship.

I actually sold all my gunships maybe 15 or 16 years ago.  I don’t know why but I didn’t care about vehicles back then so much.

I’ve been toying with the idea of buying a few of the old ones for a couple of years now and am glad I didn’t. 
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Jeff on July 24, 2025, 02:36 PM
I have so many questions that I need answered before I think about buying.  The idea of a new Gunship doesn't interest me, but maybe they hit it so far out of the park that FOMO will kick in?

I'm interested to see if the tiers will be all figures or if they will be "things" like a stand?  Would the side-pod turrets be part of the basic package or will they be a tier?  Will it come with different stickers to allow you to customize it to one of the many variants we already own in the original sculpt?

Also, does this tie into the "theme" for 2026 (the way the Cantina ties into 2025's "return to Tatooine" theme)?
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2025, 02:45 PM
I've got more than enough PT/Clone Wars era things.  I really don't need anymore.  I'm really hoping its not a Republic Gunship.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Rob on July 24, 2025, 03:19 PM
I have so many questions that I need answered before I think about buying.  The idea of a new Gunship doesn't interest me, but maybe they hit it so far out of the park that FOMO will kick in?

I'm interested to see if the tiers will be all figures or if they will be "things" like a stand?  Would the side-pod turrets be part of the basic package or will they be a tier?  Will it come with different stickers to allow you to customize it to one of the many variants we already own in the original sculpt?

Also, does this tie into the "theme" for 2026 (the way the Cantina ties into 2025's "return to Tatooine" theme)?

I'd have all the same questions... I would NOT want stickers to create decos though.  That said, no chance they don't use a new Gunship sculpt to sell us 5 different versions of it later... so then the question is, is a paint scheme enough to sort of maintain the inegrity of the Haslab thing? 

Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: P-Siddy on July 24, 2025, 03:57 PM
The gunship should come with pilots and I expect gunners.  Other tiers?  No idea, but it definitely opens up the possibility of more clone repaints.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 24, 2025, 04:43 PM
This thing will have to have serious upgrades and not be $500 for me to get on board.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Jeff on July 25, 2025, 05:48 PM
Highlights from the panel - will post more when the official PR comes out.

TVC 3.75" HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship:
- Price = $449.99
- Needs 8000 backers by 9/8 to fund
- 28.74"L x 10.61"H x 30.91"W
- Includes 2x Clone Trooper Pilots; one comes on the exclusive cardback, the other is loose/bagged I think Emily said?
- Includes many of the same features as the 2002 sculpt but a few new ones (removable missiles and removable panels)
- Includes extra swappable panels for alternate nose deco/artwork
- Includes 2 different stands - "flight mode" or "hove mode"
- Tier 1 - unlocks at 10k - TVC Coleman Trebor with exclusive cardback
- Tier 2 - unlocks at 12k - TVC Saesee Tiin with exclusive cardback
- Tier 3 - unlocks at 14k - TVC Agen Kolar with exclusive cardback
- ~20% larger than the 2002 sculpt (last released in 2013)
- built off the updated model/design seen in the ROTS Flashback scenes in The Mandalorian
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: McMetal on July 25, 2025, 05:51 PM
This thing will have to have serious upgrades and not be $500 for me to get on board.


Luckily it’s only $449.99!  :D

I’ll never complain about saving money I guess. I would have been a lot more tempted if it had been Clone Wars branded but even then it would have been a stretch.

Hope it gets backed for those who want it though!
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Project
Post by: Dave on July 25, 2025, 05:54 PM
So far I'm completely underwhelmed by the Rebel Gunship they're showing off.  $450.  Needs 8k backers by September 8th.

Lamest tiers ever:
Tier 1 - Coleman Trebor @ 10k backers
Tier 2 - Saesee Tin @ 12k
Tier 3 - Agen Kolar @ 14k

They're all on exclusive cards.  Not sure if they're all new, complete repacks, or tweaked from what we already have.  Also includes two clone pilots.

I do like that it comes with two stand options:
- Hover mode
- Flight mode

Some kinda cool changeable side panels with different battle "pin-up" art.

I'm definitely going to wait and see on this one, but heavily leaning towards no.  I think the ones I've got are good enough, and getting a larger one and finding the space for it will be a challenge.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Jediknight760071 on July 25, 2025, 05:56 PM
For the sake of the Vintage Collection, I really hope it gets enough backers and unlocks all tiers.
For myself, I'm going to have to do some soul searching to see if I'm ok with $450. I checked earlier and have 7 of the $30-$40 versions.
Those are from a long time ago, but it's a big leap for me to mentally adjust to.

The ship looks awesome. The figures look awesome. I don't want to take anything away from folks that are excited about this.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Rob on July 25, 2025, 06:04 PM
Hmmmm... I haven't seen anything other than some real small pictures so far but try as I might, I'm just not terribly excited about a gunship.  If I do get this thing, I'm going to have to hang it from the ceiling...
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Dave on July 25, 2025, 06:07 PM
Link to HasLab page (https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/star-wars-the-vintage-collection-laati-gunship/G25385L00)

It'll be interesting to track the speed of the backing on this one.

Maybe there are a bunch of 28-year olds with a bunch of cash that don't have previous releases that will drive this quickly.  I just don't see the oldsters like us being in a rush to back this and am thinking the backing will be much slower than some of the previous TVC offerings.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Jeff on July 25, 2025, 06:19 PM
For the sake of the Vintage Collection, I really hope it gets enough backers and unlocks all tiers.

I think the swappable nose art panels will help drive some of the PT faithful to pick up more than one.

They're all on exclusive cards.  Not sure if they're all new, complete repacks, or tweaked from what we already have.

The Jedi figures are "all-new" sculpts but probably share tooling with other figures that are likely on the way (maybe even with the Jedi Spirits Anakin we saw yesterday).

With the 2026 theme revealed as "Battle of Geonosis", 100% sure we're going to get pounded with Arena Jedi resculpts and Clone repaints for a while using these new Jedi sculpts and the recent clone trooper sculpt.

I expect a white Phase I 4-pack trooper set, maybe an update to the Super Battle Droid (or a refresh 4-pack of the old sculpt like they did with the Battle Droid), maybe a Geonosis repaint Battle Droid 4-pack, etc. etc.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 25, 2025, 06:22 PM
This could be the first TVC Haslab to fail. 

The Clone Pilots should not be carded.  The Tiers are lackluster and will be in the regular line on different cards.  The ship is nice, but I don't see how this is going to fit on a 12" shelf even with the cool in flight stand.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Rob on July 25, 2025, 06:48 PM
It’s nearly 30” x 30”.  There isn’t any scenario where it fits on a 12” shelf other than pointed vertically.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Scott on July 25, 2025, 07:09 PM
Part of the site history had me smiling today with the reveal of Col(e)man Trebor as the first stretch goal.  Hope somewhere they are happy!  I’m going to pass
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Rob on July 25, 2025, 07:36 PM
Just saw they're tacking on a $34.99 "Haslab Surcharge" to this? 

The $449 price tag, which is really $485 all feels like some hidden tariff pricing in there.  Who knows what this will cost to import a year from now, I bet they're trying to hedge and that it would be more like $350 or $399 in a normal world.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: tmanthegreat on July 25, 2025, 09:42 PM
I decided to back the Gunship. It’s not something I was dying for or anything - and I have one of the older versions - but it’s still a cool design and will be neat to have in-scale and it will look good all loaded up. I’m totally underwhelmed by the tiers, though, plus the fact it doesn’t have the two gunners to complete the crew.

However, I’ll say it: a U-Wing would have been a lot neater, more original, and tied in with Andor and the 10th Anniversary of Rogue One…
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Jeff on July 25, 2025, 10:51 PM
Just saw they're tacking on a $34.99 "Haslab Surcharge" to this? 

This seems to be a way to jack up the shipping price from the flat $6.99 fee they introduced a while back.  If you are a Hasbro Pulse member they will waive this fee -
"Per-item fee covering shipping costs. Free for Hasbro Pulse Premium."

Guess I will have to make sure to renew my Pulse Premium beforehand if I do eventually decide to back one.


edit:  Just passed 1k backers a few minutes ago (~5 hours).  The Ghost did about 1500 in the first 20 minutes...  The Cantina hit 1k after about an hour...
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Scott on July 26, 2025, 12:10 AM
Calling it now…no way this funds
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Ryan on July 26, 2025, 01:46 AM
I think Hasbro is really counting on the younger market getting behind this one, as that seems to be where most of the demand for it was coming from.

The Gunship itself looks great, but $449 for a redone ship that will also be hard to physically fit into the collection room -- backing this one might be hard for me to justify.

It's cool and all, but it doesn't feel worth the cost or the exclusivity of being a HasLab. This is by FAR the most uninspired of the four TVC HasLabs. With the first three HasLabs, we got an all-new never-before-made vehicle. The Ghost came with three all-new, unique figures and a fourth (Zeb) that was also mostly all-new. Then with the Cantina, we got a [mostly] never-before-made playset with two never-before-made figures, two others that are significant updates, and updated Greedo. All of the other figures at least had special coins/accessories.

There is nothing in this set that is truly NEW or unique. With the Gunship itself, we get a remake of a vehicle that had been released seven different times before. Each of the pack-in figures could have used an update to varying degrees, but none of them were high on my want list. Each of them had been made multiple times before, most as recently as in TLC, and had at least a decent version made. Each of these pack-ins feel like they will end up being rereleased in the main line with an alternate cardback and no other changes (unless they just don't include the robe or alternate hands).

The Gunship is currently sitting at 1,110 backers. It'll be interesting to see how it does. I'll probably wait this time until closer to the end to decide if I want to back it, FOMO might win out, but I almost would be ok seeing this one not fund... and it honestly might not.

Just saw they're tacking on a $34.99 "Haslab Surcharge" to this? 

The $449 price tag, which is really $485 all feels like some hidden tariff pricing in there.  Who knows what this will cost to import a year from now, I bet they're trying to hedge and that it would be more like $350 or $399 in a normal world.

FWIW -- If you have Pulse Premium, the surcharge is removed.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: EdSolo on July 26, 2025, 09:11 AM
This is an easy pass for me.  We have enough Gunships as it is.  While it is more to scale, it really doesn't do anything for me.  Adding several Jedi which we already have really isn't an incentive either.  They really needed to go another direction.  Even though I also passed on the Ghost and the Cantina, I would have jumped on board on both of those if space wasn't an issue.

At this point, I'm still holding out for a Death Star or a Star Destroyer.  Those two I would make room for.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Nicklab on July 26, 2025, 10:53 AM
Comparing this Republic Gunship with the version that was originally released in 2002 is not a fair comparison. They’re radically different offerings from one another. And I am fully mindful of the fact that the Gunship was released 7 times in various forms over the course of 11 years. The final version sold for over $100 and was the first to include the ball turrets plus 3 figures. Meanwhile the secondary market price for the TVC version has exploded - some have sold for over $700!

Where I will take Hasbro to task is over RELATIVE value with comparable Haslab items. Such as? THE RAZOR CREST. That came out 3 years ago and cost $100 less. And I would argue that it was a far better value for customers.  Did Disney have a hand in setting the price there?  Perhaps, since it was a vehicle from a new show, and it was promptly blown up in season 2!  But it helped to promote the show.

But back to the Gunship.  Does it look really cool?  Absolutely.  And the features are great.  However, I cannot get over the fact that Hasbro is revisiting a ship that has been released so much as the Republic Gunship was between 2002 and 2013.  Secondary market prices considered, there are plenty of them out there.  The only comparable situation with the number of releases that comes to mind to me is with the Millennium Falcon.  It was released by Kenner in Star Wars, TESB and ROTJ packaging in the vintage era.  And then in the POTF2 era, plus the OTC version with added electronics.  The 2008 Legacy Collection version was a massive leap forward from that original Kenner mold to something completely new.  But the Millennium Falcon demanded it because the ship was like a character itself.  And so that BMF Falcon saw re-releases in TVC packaging twice - the last time with a massive price tag.  Was the Falcon part of the reasoning for Hasbro to increase prices so much?

Personally?  I blame some of the TVC crowd - influencers especially - who are essentially shouting "Shut up and take my money!"  when it comes to Vintage Collection pricing.  I know there were some focus groups held by Hasbro recently.  I got a questionnaire that led me to believe Hasbro wanted some feedback on that front.  And one of the screening questions was "What is the most you've ever spent on a single item?".   Hmmmm.  That kind of leads you to believe that Hasbro is looking at Haslab like a significant profit center.

I'm having a difficult time deciding whether or not to back this campaign.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2025, 11:30 AM
Just saw they're tacking on a $34.99 "Haslab Surcharge" to this? 

This seems to be a way to jack up the shipping price from the flat $6.99 fee they introduced a while back.  If you are a Hasbro Pulse member they will waive this fee -
"Per-item fee covering shipping costs. Free for Hasbro Pulse Premium."

Ah okay.  I’ve always had Pulse Premium and just saw this on Blueharvestcollector IG, so I’d assumed it was for everyone.  I suppose if you’re going to back the Gunship anyway, saving $35 makes pulse premium almost a no brainer. 

After sleeping on it, my plan is to not back the Gunship for now.  If it does fund, I’ll want one, but I’d also be perfectly happy not spending this kind of money on that item, so I’ll wait and see and not help push it towards the finish line.

Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Jeff on July 26, 2025, 12:28 PM
After sleeping on it, my plan is to not back the Gunship for now.

Same.  It's weird but I almost have this "sad" feeling about not backing this on day 1.   Like I'm letting down my friend by not supporting him for the first time in a long, long time.

FOMO and/or guilt and/or OCD will probably lead me to reluctantly back this by the time we get to labor day weekend, but for now my plan is to wait and see what happens.  Will some of those Instagram accounts that are always harping on "we need more PT in TVC" try to organize some grass-roots campaigning?  Those are the guys that pushed for new Dooku, new Anakin, new Obi-Wan so they better step up for this if they want it to fund.


While I'm here, I'll add these comparison/size pics from the PR package...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gwy1ACFWUAA5Ef5.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gwy1ADqWcAAU7G4.jpg)

Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Dave on July 26, 2025, 02:46 PM
Just saw they're tacking on a $34.99 "Haslab Surcharge" to this? 

This is essentially what I paid for the first release of the Republic Gunship from E2, which I still think is a totally adequate toy.  $40 back in the day for the Republic Gunship barely covers the surcharge.  :'(
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 26, 2025, 06:04 PM
Seeing as I was laid off in March and just got hired to a new job last week, I'm really leaning towards not backing it.  This thing will not fit on any shelf in my collection room.  If it were $350, I might be tempted, but this price seems too high for this item.

Don't get me wrong, I love the detail and the rotating rockets the removeable/exchangeable panels and the flight stand...I just really wish we at least waited for the Cantina to be in people's hands before we're hit with another Haslab.  Like I said before, this could be the first TVC Haslab to fail because Hasbro has trouble reading the room.

There are some morons in the TVC facebook group asking about redecos and re-releases of this gunship.  It's like they have no clue how a Haslab works.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2025, 10:02 AM
Glad to hear you’ve got something new Matt!

I was just digging through the cantina thread looking for a sense of the backing pace…

On June 7 Nick wrote that it had 1,700 backers in 2 hours.  At 1:00 that morning Jeff wrote that it was over 3,000 in the first day. 

This one will be pushing two days in a few hours and is at 1,873. 

It seems to be well below the pace we’re used to.  I read a comment on reddit saying it’s behind the pace of the Black Series Rancor.  Not sure if they were thinking percentages or total backers though.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Jediknight760071 on July 27, 2025, 04:18 PM
I backed one for the sake of momentum, but the total is going to be about $525 with fees and tax.  :o
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the ship, its design, the figures, or anything. It all looks really cool, and again, I hope it funds for folks that want it.
But Jesus, that's a whole hell of a lot of money to spend right now.

I see a lot of folks on other sites/youtube being a bit disparaging of those complaining about the cost. The sort of "if you can't afford the hobby, gtfo" attitude.
Well... the number of backers very slowly creeping up might indicate, people did exactly that.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 27, 2025, 04:22 PM
Thanks Rob, I'm looking forward to get back to work, it's not my dream job of Launch Director for NASA, SpaceX or any of the other launch companies, but I'm working with the equipment for the range, so I have a hand in every launch which is pretty cool.

Another thing I was thinking about was the Starspeeder 3,000 offered by Disney last year.  This ship came with a numbered, carded Captain Rex, a loose Captain Rex to use in the ship, a pack-in R2-D2, electronic lights and sounds to include a screen that shows all the original ride segments and a light up display stand!  This was not crowd-funded and came in at $350.

The Haslab LAAT Gunship does have some nice detail, but no electronics is only marginally bigger and is $100 more.  I'm not seeing the value right now.

That being said, FOMO might hit me and I purchase one, but it won't be until the last day of the campaign if I do.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Jeff on July 27, 2025, 04:32 PM
It seems to be well below the pace we’re used to.

We are close to two days and at ~1980 backers so far.

Bumping these #s up again since it's relevant... first week, middle weeks, last week on the pst TVC HasLabs

Barge - 1840 (21%), 1920 (22%), 5080 (57%)
Crest - 8990 (32%), 6290 (22%), 12830 (46%)
Ghost - 8770 (40%), 3330 (15%), 9665 (44%)
Cantina - 4800 (33%), 1800 (12%), 8140 (55%)

Every HasLab is different (as you can see above), but using the patented "Jeff HasLab math" that's about 32% in the first week, 18% in the middle weeks ("the lull"), and 50% in the final week.

So, using that as our guide post, it probably needs to hit these numbers by Friday 8/1 (first week) to show signs of successful funding...

2560 backers, will likely hit the 8k backers and fund.
4480 backers, will likely hit all three unlocks.

#mathisfun*

*caveat - we've never seen a TVC HasLab fail, so the math can't handle that idea yet... I still think this one will fund, but may not get all tiers unlocked.  Not sure how that will affect the numbers if people start dropping out if they don't get the Jedi tiers...
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2025, 06:29 PM
Thanks for doing that Jeff.   So really we’ll be able to try to predict something out of these numbers at the end of a week.  Maybe it’s ahead of the barge at the moment and too soon to tell how it’ll compare to the other ones.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2025, 09:35 AM
Did the TBS offerings track the same as each other, I assume at a slower rate? 

It looks like for TVC if the offering hits 45-55% before the last week starts then it should fund.

One way I'm looking at collector math is that if this funds and I've got FOMO (right now I'm leaning towards not funding it), I guess I can sell my original gunship for about $250, assuming values don't change with the funding of this.  That would mean the new one will only cost me $250 or so.  Still more than I want to pay for a better version of something I already think is good enough.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: P-Siddy on July 28, 2025, 10:20 AM
Same.  It's weird but I almost have this "sad" feeling about not backing this on day 1.   Like I'm letting down my friend by not supporting him for the first time in a long, long time.

I used to get all the Topps Star Wars sets but got burnt out by repetition and other things with each set that I stopped collecting them.  Similar happened to me with Black Series and now with Vintage (still collecting, but don't have the FOMO anymore).  To be honest, once I stopped, I don't really miss it.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Brian on July 28, 2025, 11:14 AM
I think this will be the first TVC HasLab I pass on as well, for many of the reasons already stated in this thread. When I heard this as one of the rumors, I was slightly tempted since my old Gunship got sold off in one of my great purges to help out with some large vet bills. But, for the same reasons everyone stated, I’m probably out.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m sure it will look outstanding, these things always do. Just rather put that money somewhere else, and I really, really don’t have the room for this. Heck, my Ghost is still in the box as well since I don’t know where to put it right now aside from the floor. Plus I have a Cantina coming as well. I always intended to keep up with all the OT stuff, and the rest would be case by case. I do get the FOMO. or “sad” feeling Jeff mentioned.like I’m a bad Star Wars fan or something 😉
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Jeff on July 28, 2025, 12:15 PM
Did the TBS offerings track the same as each other, I assume at a slower rate?

Here are the non-TVC SW HasLab numbers...

Rancor - 3900 in the first week (46%), 900 (11%), 3700 (44%) = final ~8500 just 500 short of funding the basic package.

Based on that first week, it should have funded but without all the tiers.

What went wrong?  This one suffered in the middle section - that "900" should have been a lot higher.  In the middle weeks, Hasbro hosted a fanstream and revealed tiny Crumb on a card and another Jedi Luke on a card as tiers 3 and 4.  Many BS6" fans were disappointed and cancelled their orders trying to send a message to Hasbro.  The Rancor lost about 400 orders over the next two days.  Hasbro pivoted to add Malakili in that final week to win those fans back but the damage was done.  Too much negativity had crept in and the public backlash was ugly during the middle.

The Rancor had an impressive comeback at the end (Malakili helped that) but it wasn't enough to undo the PR damage done in the middle.  If it hadn't lost so much in the middle, it likely funds ahead of the deadline and then picks up more FOMO backers in the final days.   This one had a lot of issues but it sure seems like those Tier 3/4 reveals killed it.



Reva Saber - 1000 in first week, 300 in middle, 200 at the end

On this one, it probably need to get to 1500 in that first week to back (5k).  There were no tiers, there was no support, people did not like the character.  So many cards stacked against this one.  Once the writing was on the wall this wasn't going to make it, it just drifted off and no one cared in that last week.  The less said about this one, the better.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: P-Siddy on July 28, 2025, 06:40 PM
Reva Saber
people did not like the character. 

I always wondered why they didn't just call it an Inquisitor's lightsaber. I'm not sure if there are any details on Reva's saber that would differentiate it from a Brother's or Sister's, but having a generic name might have worked better.  Might.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2025, 07:36 PM
Reva Saber
people did not like the character. 

I always wondered why they didn't just call it an Inquisitor's lightsaber. I'm not sure if there are any details on Reva's saber that would differentiate it from a Brother's or Sister's, but having a generic name might have worked better.  Might.

I'm just not sure there is a big enough group that loves TBS helmets and sabers that would be willing to pay $400 for these.  I think some of these are cool items, but not $400 cool.  I'm good with a $75 helmet.  I'm not sure a $400 one does anything more for me unless I'm doing 501st costuming, and then it probably needs to be a lot more custom.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Matt_Fury on July 28, 2025, 10:38 PM
I knew that Reva's saber Haslab was not going to get over the line.  Dave's correct, the Force FX lightsaber market is a bit niche as it is.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Jeff on July 29, 2025, 01:25 PM
Gunship hit 2400 backers just now so we've reached 30% funded.  Progress is slow, but it is moving along still.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Nicklab on July 29, 2025, 06:51 PM
I knew that Reva's saber Haslab was not going to get over the line.  Dave's correct, the Force FX lightsaber market is a bit niche as it is.

That campaign probably should have been run AFTER the series had wrapped.  OR, if Hasbro was set on making an Inquisitor lightsaber?  Go with the Grand Inquisitor!  Between the initial episodes of the OWK series and his tenure on REBELS there was significantly more history for fans to go on.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Jeff on July 31, 2025, 10:55 PM
So, using that as our guide post, it probably needs to hit these numbers by Friday 8/1 (first week) to show signs of successful funding...

2560 backers, will likely hit the 8k backers and fund.
4480 backers, will likely hit all three unlocks.

Obviously there is no perfect math to predict these things, but here we are after the first week we're at ~2685 backers.

Good progress, but obviously not GREAT. We'd need ~170 backers a day over the next month to get it to unlock before the final week and then use the momentum of the final week backers to start unlocking tiers.  Not sure if we will get that...

I still think it backs but hitting all the tiers seems unlikely without some grassroots campaigning and some wafflers to get on board.
Title: Re: 2025 TVC HasLab Republic LAAT/i Gunship
Post by: Ryan on August 1, 2025, 02:53 PM
It's been just about seven full days in (and we are currently sitting at 2,729 backers (~34% backed -- ~19% fully funded -- ~15% of the way through the campaign). My #Collector Math skills aren't on par with Jeff's, so please fact-check me if this is wrong... Looking back at the last few TVC HasLab, here are some of the interesting milestones in when each of the last few campaigns funded and when they fully backed:

The Barge -- Total Campaign Length: 46 Days -- Backers needed to fund: 8,000 -- All-tiers Backers: n/a-- FUNDED DAY: 42nd Day (91% of total campaign length) ALL-TIERS: n/a

HasLab Campaign   
Campaign Length   
Backers Needed to Fund   
Needed to Fully-Fund   
FUNDED DAY   
ALL-TIERS UNLOCKED   
The Barge    46 Days    8,000    n/a    42nd Day (~91% of total campaign length)    n/a   
The Razor Crest    46 Days    6,000    13,000   2nd Day (~4% if total campaign length)    43rd Day (~93% if total campaign length)   
The Ghost    48 Days    8,000    17,000   5th Day (~10% if total campaign length)    48th Day (~100% if total campaign length)     
The Cantina    32 Days    8,000    17,000   29th Day (~91% if total campaign length)    n/a (finished w/ 14,737 & 2 of 3 tiers unlocked)   
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LAAT Gunship    46 Days    8,000    14,000   ?    ?