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Offline Darth_Anton

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Need Imperial Captain (army) help
« on: April 10, 2007, 05:48 PM »
First, apologies for this not being a picture showing off post, I know that's a disappointment sometimes.

That caveatted, I need some expert help. I went to RS, but they told me to get the heck out, so I can here.  ;D

I want to make an Imperial Army troop Captain and have few questions. I'd be making 4, each commanding a company. I know that in some cases, Captains wear the outfit of the unit he's in charge of, but for my army I want my Captains in Tunics.

Given the available sculpts/materials, what would you guys suggest?

Ideally, what would an official Army Captain look like, i.e. uniform color and rank insignia?

I'm leaning toward using a Veers, with armor, painted black. I've painted one, but the Armor blends in too much, what would one suggest to make it "pop?" I'm also cheating with the ranks. Since my lieutenants are going to wear 4 pip squares (taken from Jerjerrod's rank insignia,) I'm simply going to remove a pair of pips from my Veers' to make my "Captain" rank insignia. Would this over all configuration (rank and figure color) work?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Need Imperial Captain (army) help
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2007, 06:01 PM »
Anton, if I were you I'd go with something from the Jerjerrod body with some sort of hybrid legs.  Personally, I don't like the Veers body so I steer away from it.  But Jedistyle made a great figure from a Veers body -

One thing though from Jerjerrod, is that the tunic is very tight on that figure, and getting other legs to really fit with it are hard - I used some Death Star Gunner legs on a similar custom because I like the articulation quite a bit, but had to trim down the thighs of the legs a lot to get them to fit. Not an easy task.

head - POTJ Boshek
torso - SAGA2 Jerjerrod
hands - can't remember
legs - SAGA2 Death Star Gunner

Granted, that's an Admiral I was making but I think if in Imperial gray or black, with a cap or helmt, it would look like some sort of captain.

You could also try something like these that Fritz made -

Not sure what all parts he used.

For me at least though, I usually don't know how I want a figure to look until I'm halfway through making it.  As for ranks/bandges/etc, that's just something that I never really bother with worrying about.

You also might want to try experimenting with the new Death Star Trooper.

« Last Edit: April 10, 2007, 06:02 PM by CHEWIE »

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Re: Need Imperial Captain (army) help
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 10:45 PM »
Evo Dooku is one of the best upper body sculpts EVER for anything.

I actually like the Veers body a lot, I think its great for ANY Imperial guys.

Ive used the DSG on a number of occassions, with modifications.

Chewie pretty much nailed it, but if I were to ask for help Id want something contributed, so there you go.

Maybe post a pic of your goal or something and I'll try to help more. Good luck!

« Last Edit: April 10, 2007, 10:45 PM by Robo-Quack »
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Re: Need Imperial Captain (army) help
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2007, 03:46 AM »
Hey Anton...  Who at Scum told you to basically piss off?  Friggin' morons...   ::)

Anyway, here's some food for thought from the EU...

The "Imperial Army" is a specific branch of the Imperial military.  Specifically, the Imperial Army uniform is listed as just, basically, an AT-ST Driver.  Add some body armor ala Veers (sans the rank plaque), and you have the gist of what the Imperial Army wear... 

That said, officers it's easy to assume would be no different than what we've seen established from the films.  IE: Veers is a General in Battle Dress...  So I'd say an Imperial Army Captain would be in the tunic and you'd be well within bounds to run with that.  The COLOR of the tunic is the question...  Veers wears the traditional grey-green, he's an army officer, so one could ASSUME you could simply modify a Jerjerrod who is in the same uniform essentially and slap body armor onto him.  You could even choose to use the armor of a Death Star Gunner, but I prefer the "Veers" armor w/modified (or no) rank insignia as the "Imperial Army" standard being as the DSG's armor is more Stormtrooper-ish in nature.

Now, that's what I'd go with...  Comic art establishment of EU Imperial military uniform colors is all over the place so I tend to view it with artistic liberties being taken...

Video games on the other hand seemingly establish the ranks of the Stormtroopers and the ranks of the Imperial Army being separate, and Stormtrooper Officers/Naval Troopers sharing the black uniforms/tunics (IE: Stormtroopers officers in dress uniforms wear black, ala a DST uniform or "Naval" uniform).  They all answer to higher officers in the grey, but I think the army's military officers wear the grey tunics all the way down the line...  If this is making any sense to you at all.

There's ways to fit in other colors and things...  I think the VERY green uniforms though sometimes get overdone and are a product of EU comic artists not being consistant in their designs so I view them more as a flaw and inaccuracy than anything else... 

So, in short...

I'd run with a simple Jerjerrod (readily available, best height/generic sculpt, as articulated as Veers basically), and if you have access to a POTF2 Veers you could hollow his body armor (front and back) out to fit over your Captain's body. 

I'd avoid Veers because A) no back portion, B) his body is less "generic" due to the height issue (he is a tall character so he's good for that character, bad for "army building"), and C) his arms seem less "neutral" posed as well. 

You can add a pack to your Captain if he's a field trooper too...  A Sandtrooper pack is, to me, the Imperial basic field pack as it's modular design implies it is used for MOST environments, just modified witht he proper gear for the world.

That's my take on the figure...  You'd need to modify a rank bar.  I can't, offhand, recall what's what on their ranks badges but charts of them are out there to look at.

On the Imp Uniform colors though...  There's tons.  None of it's hashed out at all, EU confuses the issue further (brown/mustard uniforms, varying shades of green from super dark hunter greens to olive drab and more film-accurate colors), and it's tough to hash out...  The only EU source that tried to lay down specifics to the Imp. Army was the old WEG RPG and they focused more on the troopers in the army and less on Officers, but I think Veers gives us a strong basis on Officers looks and some games have implied that the Imp. Army wears the grey-green of the films like Veers.

Lots to digest and lots of room for debate/creative license.
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