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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #630 on: July 27, 2019, 07:05 PM »
I'm so confused.

This past year we have been getting arguably the best product ever out of Hasbro in terms of quality. However, I have yet to miss Hasbro's SDCC Comic-con panel in more than 10 years and with respect to all the lovely people with Hasbro I had conversations with, this was hands-down the most lack luster panel ever. I suppose we were due, but still. Makes me wonder what's down the road.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #631 on: July 27, 2019, 07:27 PM »
I'm so confused.

This past year we have been getting arguably the best product ever out of Hasbro in terms of quality. However, I have yet to miss Hasbro's SDCC Comic-con panel in more than 10 years and with respect to all the lovely people with Hasbro I had conversations with, this was hands-down the most lack luster panel ever. I suppose we were due, but still. Makes me wonder what's down the road.

This is where my confusion comes from too... I thought they were on a total roll.  Maybe the brakes are on now for E9 and this amazing TVC run was just because they finally had a breather between films, but I was really hoping Hasbro had rediscovered the OT and was going to be rolling forward with more like we've gotten this year.

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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #632 on: July 27, 2019, 10:48 PM »
I have a little bit of hope that come next April, the Sequel Trilogy and its marketing strategy will be behind us (not that I have minded the films, but the marketing has been crappy) and Hasbro will be rolling into what they teased with the SDCC Boba Fett--an ESB 40th anniversary collection.

With no big movie push coming later next year, maybe it will be more than just a "rereleased Black Series figures on retro cards" and "titanium figures no one wanted" that the original got in '17. I hope we get something in the Vintage Collection next year on par with the Jabba's Palace Playset and Skiff Vehicle to show some love to ESB.

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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #633 on: August 20, 2019, 10:01 AM »
Saw this story this morning...

Hasbro to Phase Out Plastic from New Toy and Game Packaging

Hasbro "plans to begin phasing out plastic from new product packaging, including plastic elements like polybags, elastic bands, shrink wrap, window sheets and blister packs. The company’s ambition is to eliminate virtually all plastic in packaging for new products by the end of 2022."

I have lots of questions...

How do you have carded figures with no plastic/blister packs?  ??? 

What does this mean for Black Series 6" window boxes?  Open windows?  Closed boxes where you can't see the figure's paint job?  Some kind of 100% vegetable polyfilm (hat won't hold up over time) in the place of the plastic window?

Or maybe it's phrased "virtually all" so they can still use a little plastic for carded figures?  Or maybe it won't matter because they already know they aren't renewing the Star Wars license in 2020 and don't need to worry about carded bubble/blister pack figures.   :-X >:D
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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #634 on: August 20, 2019, 10:20 AM »
Maybe it just means they're switching to a corn-based, biodegradable blister or something like that? 

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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #635 on: August 20, 2019, 10:47 AM »
****, can I finally just buy them loose? I'd be fine with that. I shudder to think how much landfill space I've taken with just my collection.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #636 on: August 20, 2019, 11:06 AM »
****, can I finally just buy them loose? I'd be fine with that. I shudder to think how much landfill space I've taken with just my collection.

I'd be all about it if Hasbro Pulse wanted to offer a loose option for purchases.  As long as the accessories and figures are there, I don't need any of the rest.

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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #637 on: August 20, 2019, 11:47 AM »
Maybe it just means they're switching to a corn-based, biodegradable blister or something like that?

March 2018 Hasbro announced they were going to start using plant-based bio-polyethylene terephthalate (PET) for blister packs and plastic windows in its product packaging starting in 2019. The bioPET plastic they are using is made with 30 percent plant-based material (ag waste).

It certainly could be that the current 30% plantblend PET is enough wiggle room to not be "plastic" and it's no change.  That brings up a whole bunch of questions though - are plant-based PETs going to last as long?  Will plant PET bubbles yellow/discolor faster over time?  Will they degrade at a rate that makes carded collecting pointless?  They might be great for the environment but are they great for collecting packaged toys?
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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #638 on: August 20, 2019, 02:47 PM »
Judging from my local Walmarts and Targets, they're phasing out packaging by not offering any product for sale to begin with  :P
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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #639 on: August 20, 2019, 02:51 PM »
Judging from my local Walmarts and Targets, they're phasing out packaging by not offering any product for sale to begin with  :P

+1

Seriously though, I think Hasbro already does a great job on the recycling / eco-friendly front.  All of their plastic is recyclable and their packaging seems fairly minimal.

I compare that to things that Disney sources themselves (e.g. ToyBox figures) and most of that does not have recyclable plastic and seems to use a lot more packaging.

Its nice that they're striving for this, but yeah, it might mean keeping things carded in bio-plastic means your bubble isn't going to last more than 10 years.  Maybe we're going to need vacuum sealed Star Cases now to keep the bubble from degrading.

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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #640 on: August 20, 2019, 08:14 PM »
Interesting to see if that actually extends to the bubbles/Windows on current toys. I mean, they mention it, but is there an action figure out there that doesn't use that in some shape or form? I can't imagine basically buying things blind boxed all of the time. I mean, I love the vintage collection cardbacks, but outside of that I don't know that I care. Save the world, and minimize packaging. The face printing may take out some of the guesswork as to the quality of a figure, but there could still be errors/problems.

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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #641 on: August 21, 2019, 10:14 AM »
is there an action figure out there that doesn't use that in some shape or form?

The closest thing I can think of are the Playskool Heroes and Imaginext type stuff where there is a plastic tray but no bubble and things are just strapped on with ties.

Hasbro also had those cheapo international ~5.5" figures in little boxes with no plastic window/bubble in the packaging.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #642 on: August 21, 2019, 08:39 PM »
With the rumors of the Triple Force Friday figure offerings consisting of 5" figures, a wave of Vintage Collection figures, and a wave of Black Series figures...it does make me wonder what we will see in the way of vehicles. I know there are some things rumored for the Galaxy of Adventures line, and two possible Vintage Collection vehicles (Luke's X-Wing?), but it would be strange if that was it. One of the main draws of the 3 3/4 scale in the first place was the ability to interact with vehicles and environments. But, at the same time, I can hardly remember a vehicle release since the Force Awakens that didn't get clearanced, so maybe they don't hold the interest of kids much anymore.

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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #643 on: August 21, 2019, 08:56 PM »
Packaging will be made out of die-cast metal.

In terms of the future, Hasbro is like Disney with the movies
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Re: The Future of Star Wars Collecting?
« Reply #644 on: August 29, 2019, 02:23 PM »
I've seen some people bring up the foreign (Japan?) boxed figures they had during the vintage era. Basically a cardboard box with a picture of the figure/character on the outside. It is funny how we have all this concern about paint apps, etc these days but in general it didn't seem to matter back then. Heck, even today if you are picking up vintage figures - aside from play wear things are pretty consistent overall. Simpler, of course, but very consistent from figure to figure outside of more intentional variations.

I really only collect carded with the vintage collection figures, and that is primarily OT ones (I also try to grab an extra of Han and Chewie each time they are released). I also feel that the Vintage Collection probably has a timer on it at this point to either end or be "rested" again. I love those cardbacks so much, but I don't know if they hold as much meaning to those who didn't grow up with them, and that is a slowly shrinking group. Other than that, I guess I could are less if they minimized packaging if it helped the environment or even lowered costs/prices somehow. I think the recent Black Series SDCC exclusives have essentially been plastic free, so we know it can work there. The 3 3/4" line might be more challenging, but it will be interesting to see what they come up with.