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Other Collectibles / Re: Star Wars "Choppers"?
« on: July 21, 2005, 11:01 AM »
Wow, this is an idiotic idea. Good job Big H.

Why is Hasbro combining our beloved Star Wars brand with red-neck entertainment?

WalMart Dude: Yeah, I guess. The bike replicas sell pretty good in our southern state stores.

Insinuating something Pete?  :-\

Only that certain things seem to sell better in certain areas of the country than others. If you look at WalMart for example, up here in NJ, they are sitting on MOUNTAINS of that American Chopper crap.

Down where my step-daughter lives in SC, they can't keep it in stock.

So yeah, I was kinda being mean in my generalization, but I was really trying to make light of the fact that it boggles my mind what market research is Hasbro looking at that's telling them that "choppers" is a big seller across the boards in this country?

Here's my biggest problem:

Making Choppers, Titanium Forged Figures, Force Battlers, Transformers and Unleashed Battle Packs - all require the creation of BRAND NEW tooling and money pumped into the manufacturing process, packaging design, marketing, etc... just so they can have something "different"

Regardless of whether or not Hasbro admits it, the economics is simple. Instead of taking the money you spend on tooling up stupid f**king choppers, make the necessary molds for a Sith Infiltrator, AT-TE, Turbo Tank, modify the Ewok Village, the Cloud Car, new Snowspeeder sculpt, etc.. ANYTHING to add to the PLAY VALUE of your already existing 3.75" toy line!!! The biggest problem I see with the figures today is that the lack of vehicles, pre-posed action stances and spring-powered action features RESTRICT the play-pattern that can exist with the toy line. Give a kid a nice sturdy, poseable Luke Skywalker a small vehicle that is star wars-like that his mom or dad can pick up for $10 - $15, allow him and his parents to find a bunch of "bad guys" and you've got a winner of a toy line.

Just this morning I saw a mom and two boys in the pathetic excuse for the Star Wars aisle at the Manahawkin, NJ WalMart. Here was their Star Wars purchase options: Silly String Blasters or 1 Unleashed Aayla Secura.

That's it. No figures, no vehicles, no lightsabers, not even the Mustafar playset - NOTHING. I could tell the mom wasn't too thrilled with the idea of a silly string blaster either. Parents look at a toy like that and say to themselves "I don't want to clean up that f**king mess" and they leave it on the shelves. To see WalMart getting in like 10 cases of these things is a JOKE.

Whatever high Hasbro may be riding right now due to Q2 earnings is going to come CRASHING down on them for three reasons:

1) Star Wars is still hot, yet there is no new product on the shelves
2) Transformers Cybertron has just debuted but I don't think the show is starting until September on Cartoon Network - that leaves only one month of the quarter for kids to have seen the show and want to buy product
3) The 3.75" GI Joe line languishes on the shelves and will soon be all returned for merchandiser credit and the Sigma Six line will debut this fall and become the SHORTEST LIVED Joe line in history.

By the end of the fiscal year, Hasbro is going to be so far down in profits the stock isn't going to be worth **** and thankfully this year, they can't make Star Wars the whipping boy excuse.

Well - I ordered one, would have preferred to get two so I could have an opener. Perhaps they'll do another round in a week or so of either figures w/o cases or figures that aren't mint at a slightly lower price and I'll order another one then.

Other Collectibles / Re: Star Wars "Choppers"?
« on: July 20, 2005, 10:41 PM »
To go off on a tangent for a second, I remember when you could turn on TLC and you know, actually learn something.  Now it's all "West Coast Celebrity Poker Showdown with Angry Biker Bounty Hunter Bob Vila on an Airplane" or something.   ::)

You know - my son put on Mythbusters tonight 'cause they're doing the Shark Week myth busting and during the program there was a commercial with Lance Armstrong and he's returning to his hotel room and he can see sparks flying from underneath the door - when he opens the door he sees the three retards from "American Chopper" have modified his Tour de France bicycle into some redneck piece of trash and the fat son goes "ta-dah!" Lance is obviously playing along, but he has this look on his face like "retards".

It's like TLC KNOWS they're accomodating the lowest-common-denominator with this kind of programming, they embrace it and they, right-in-your-face make fun of it.


Other Collectibles / Re: Star Wars "Choppers"?
« on: July 20, 2005, 04:09 PM »
By the way - I almost forgot - this line of toys must be inspired by that recent episode of Ocean County RedNecks Choppers. Here's a pic from the episode.

They made futuristic motorcycles and Darth Vader fought the fat son dressed as Luke Skywalker while they both rode around on motorcycles!

Other Collectibles / Re: Star Wars "Choppers"?
« on: July 20, 2005, 03:58 PM »
So wait, Hasbro is "nervous" about putting out a full case of clones because they think they'll clog shelves, then they green light this ****? ::)

Right - but remember, Darryl DeRetard can go to the main toy buyer for WalMart down in Arkansas and have this conversation...

DD: Ok - so I'm going to tell you about the EXCITING Star Wars products we're working on. Tell me, what's "Hot" right now

WalMart Dude: Poker, Texas Hold 'Em

DD: Err... ok what about the "chopper" craze - like Orange County and West Coast Choppers

WalMart Dude: Yeah, I guess. The bike replicas sell pretty good in our southern state stores. By the way I'm not sure I like where this is going, you told me one of those SW figures was going to be a cross between a chopper and a droid - and that darn thing looks nothin' like a motorcycle!

DD: Right, but our market research of old women in trailer parks turned up this startling fact! If you combine Star Wars and Choppers, and by this we mean REAL Choppers, you can corner that lucrative market of both Star Wars AND OCC/WCC collectors. Just think about it!

WalMart Dude: So, these choppers are going to have Star Wars artwork on them?

DD: Better! They are going to look like they are choppers from the Star Wars universe and Star Wars figure will ride them into battle!

WalMart Dude: I'll admit, I'm not so smart, so I steer clear of those dem Star Wars movies 'cause the plot is so hard to follow, but I do remember them having vehicles, but they all seemed to float, none of them had wheels

DD: Well, true, but we're saying "What if?"

WalMart Dude: Ok fair enough. And I'll be wondering "What if" these don't sell? Can I return them to Hasbro for manufacturer's credit whatever doesn't sell over the Christmas season?

DD: Sure, I guess, but we think this line will be hot!

WalMart Dude: Sure, whatever, just ship 'em and we'll be shipping 'em back come January. Shelves are lookin' kinda bare right now anyway. Hey - what happened to that 3.75" figure line you used to do? My distribution hubs aren't getting any of that stuff in - I thought I placed orders on that product through 2008.

DD: We're trying some new ideas. When I was in charge of GI Joe, I revitalized that brand by bringing back the 3.75" figure line. Now I hope to do the same with Star Wars by using the "Spray and Pray" methodology of product development. We have 20 new distinct lines under development right now - those nerds who collect this **** can't possibly collect it all, so whatever "sticks", we'll keep making it!

WalMart Dude: Good plan  ::)

DD: Thanks! Hey, did you roll your eyes at me?

WalMart Dude: Uh... Nope  ::) whatever gave you that idea

DD: There, you did it again!

WalMart Dude: Ok - well, I have to go meet with the guy from Matel, I'm sure you can show yourself out.

DD: Wait, I'm not done! I didn't even get to tell you about the Titanium Forged Figures!

WalMart Dude:  ::) Oh, you're done. Please leave. WalMart security leaves marks. That's not a warning, I'm just letting you know.

What's wrong with dragging out the mini-rigs? Price point is good. For many of them the sculpt isn't bad, if you give them a nice paint-op they'd all look great.

I'd be all for the re-introduction of mini-rig type vehicles sold with a figure (or without) at a price point of $15 - $20.

Other Collectibles / Re: Star Wars "Choppers"?
« on: July 20, 2005, 11:24 AM »
Here's the thing - look at the story....

Hasbro has plans for a new line of Star Wars Choppers, and we've gotten word on three vehicles in the planning stages right now:

Darth Vader's Imperial Chopper
Luke Skywalker's Rebel Chopper
Boba Fett's Bounty Choppper

Imagine your favorite Star Wars characters with weapons drawn racing into battle on top of motorcycles. Yeah, that's right.

The part that worries me is Imagine your favorite Star Wars characters with weapons drawn racing into battle on top of motorcycles - first off - NO, I DON'T WANT TO IMAGINE THAT.

Second - that to me means they will be putting figures on top of these things.

Third - to Jeff's point which is an extension of the point many of us have made on the Future of SW Collecting thread - WHY IS HASBRO WASTING TIME TOOLING UP THIS CRAP!?!?!

Other Collectibles / Re: Star Wars "Choppers"?
« on: July 20, 2005, 10:44 AM »
Look - this is going to sound pretty bad, but...

Why is Hasbro combining our beloved Star Wars brand with red-neck entertainment?

I'm sorry, but I just don't get the popularity of "West Coast Choppers" and those other stupid shows about retards trying to do crazy crap with motorcycles, custom cars that go from SUV to Trash truck, etc... to me all that stuff is just a huge waste of programming to fill the voide of the 900+ channels the media feels we need these days... but I digress.

How about instead of choppers - Obi-Wan, Clones, Durge and IG-88's on the Star Wars EQUIVALENT of a motorcycle - THE SPEEDER BIKE!!!!!

God damn - did Darryl DeRetard even WATCH Star Wars?

I completely missed this  >:(

If any kind soul has an extra from SDCC that they wouldn't mind selling me, I would be very appreciative.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Question...
« on: July 18, 2005, 05:40 PM »
Kenner = Hasbro

Sorry to disappoint you.

Kenner was bought by Hasbro in the 90s, so was Galoob. Originally Hasbro kept the company names/brands going, but eventually phased them out in favor of having one single company brand - Hasbro.

Does anyone else question whether Hasbro really needs to have the Unleashed at $15 anyway?  Aren't they fairly identical in scale, articulation and size to McFarlane figures?  Doesn't matter whether you're talking Twisted Oz, Sportspicks or Elvis, the McFarlane stuff is equivalent at 2/3 the price.  I would have thought that the UL stuff would have had that tidy additional $5 margin.

They are pretty close. I have in my office at work both my Star Wars Unleashed and my McFarlane Matrix open collections.

From the untrained/non-sci-fi-geeks I get a lot of "are these all from the same movie?"

More recently though, I get a lot of the Dads coming in asking "Where do you get those cool Star Wars statues? My son is really into Star Wars and I'd love to get him some." My patented answer is to go over to the TRU right near by and purchase the Anakin and Obi-Wan pair from ROTS  ;D -- gotta get 'em sold to make room for the Shocktrooper/Chewie/Han wave somehow!

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Why there are no more pictures of Bly
« on: July 18, 2005, 03:00 PM »
What sucks more than anything else about this is that Hasbro now will be gun-shy about bringing new product to future shows for this very reason. We won't see stuff until it's just about to be released - I always look forward to seeing the reports back from these types of events 'cause I know Hasbro is going to show something that I hadn't seen before.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: ROTS Recent Purchases
« on: July 18, 2005, 02:05 PM »
Picked up the Anakin to Vader Evolutions set on Saturday at KMart and I picked up the Jedi vs. Sith Battlepack at the same K-Mart this morning. Had to return the opener Battlepack 'cause Ventress' arm came right off in my hand. Way to go with the cheap plastic Hasbro!

Revenge of the Sith / Re: ROTS - #57 and beyond
« on: July 18, 2005, 02:03 PM »
Perhaps the FFs were shot inside Grevous' ship shooting foam at the heroes as the came out, shouting "Stop, Drop, and Roll!" I mean, it would be the 2nd publc service message of the PT with Obi's "Go home and rethink your life, druggie!"

Perhaps hilarity was to ensue as Palpatine slipped and slided his way out of the smoldering wreckage of Grievous' ship. R2 would fall from "the sky" as he ejected himself out of a port-hole and then proceeded to spew fire-retardant foam in a scene that pays hommage to the swamp monster scene on Dagobah from ESB. The water and foam would cause Anakin's arm to start sparking, he would say "I have a bad feeling about this" and then the water/foam mixture would act as a natural conductor and Anakin's robot arm would keep shocking Obi-Wan to which Obi-Wan replies "Anakin, turn off your arm or you're going to be the death of me!"

It's all right there in the first draft of the script.   ::)

Then someone with a sense for how to tell a good story helped GL re-write it.  ;D

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Battle Packs (5 figure sets)
« on: July 18, 2005, 01:58 PM »
Well - no questions asked they took the item back since it was clearly broken. The guy let me go check to see if they had any more in stock in the Toy Section and when I came back empty handed he just gave me the $25 and I was on my way.

I opened up the second one when I got back from lunch and this one is fine. So now all I need is a MIB one.

I really like the Ventress, Anakin and Obi-Wan figures in this pack! Definitely worth getting the set for.

Yoda and Grievous are just the same figures over again.

The name for this set is odd - Grievous and Ventress aren't really Sith - Ventress is more like a Dark Jedi and Grievous is a droid who has been trained in the use of a lightsaber by a Sith Lord. Hardly makes him "sith".

This set should have been called "Jedi vs. Seperatists" and then the next set should have included Dooku instead of Jango and that could have been called "Jedi vs. Sith" - it would have made A LOT more sense.

It's too bad the OT Battle Packs are turning out to look like such turds. The Rebels vs. Empire and Hoth Assault sets are both pretty weak. At least for the Hoth set if they had given us three Saga SnowTroopers it would have been better.

The Jedi Temple Assault Set looks to be the only other set worth having. Wish they had a fourth 501st. Did anyone hear anything more about the "Hunt for Yoda" set - I thought we'd see that one - three Clone #6 repainted to be ShockTroopers, Emperor and Yoda all on a Senate Chamber backdrop - that would be a nice set.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, here are all of the Battle Packs so far:

General Release:
Jedi vs. Sith (out now)
Jedi vs. Seperatists
Rebels vs. Empire

Jedi Temple Assault (KMart)
Hoth Assault (TRU)
Clone Attack on Coruscant (Target)

Emperor's Throne Room
Hunt for Yoda

Did I forget any?

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