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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Evolution: Silver now Holo
« on: April 27, 2005, 05:06 PM »
Thanks for the clarification Jeff - I had figured that out a day or so later....

I'm mixed on these Holo figures...

To me, I would have thought they would have started giving us Holo versions of Jedi that sit in the council as holograms. That is the nicest thing about the Yoda - he DOES appear as a full-size hologram sitting in his regular chair during a Jedi Council meeting in the movie.

So does Ki-Adi Mundi and I believe, Plo Koon.

To me, regular-size holos of these figures made so you can make a Jedi Council scene with masters in attendence via Holo MAKES SENSE.

A regular size holo of Jedi Luke for your Jabba's palace sorta makes sense because R2 projected Luke a tad bit bigger than human size, but since you don't really want a 7" holo Luke, a 4" one is just as fine. So again, makes sense, I'm all for it.

Darth Maul in his cloak with the hood up and arms crossed appeared as a lifesize holo to Nute Gunray - so again, this figure makes sense.

A regular figure size holo of Leia or Qui-Gon Jinn or whoever appeared as a small hologram display DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

They already got the holo of Leia from ANH right - with the R2-D2 figure! They already got the holo of Obi-Wan from AOTC right - the display base that came with the Saga version of Bail Organa!

To me, a holo Leia like this just is un-necessary. Personally, I would have preferred a Holo Ki-Adi Mundi to add to my ROTS Jedi Council Scene. Just make the figure out of the Saga mold and make sure he can sit - should have been easy AND it's a ROTS based exclusive. The card for this Leia has me confused - I guess they really do intend on changing the packaging once the line starts including OT characters again... oh well, just when I started to really like the ROTS cardback...

Hey - for anyone who was able to order theirs on Monday from - I received my two "order shipped" e-mails for my four C3 Vader figures. I wasn't sure that they were going to let me place two orders, but they did and now the FedEx tracking system is telling me I'll have them on April 30th!

What a month for Star Wars toys huh? Started off with the midnight madness and ends with the C3 Vader and the EE SA Clones (which I got today!)

- Peter

Revenge of the Sith / Re: C3 Hasbro Q & A
« on: April 26, 2005, 05:28 PM »
This applies to my troop builder idea as well.  IF Hasbro makes these with kids in mind and at the same time realize that most kids never ever got to see the SA Clone or Clone Pilots from the AOTC lines then why don't they start over packing troop builders?  Do they think that inciting excitement over chasing figures is something that attracts parents to by a product for their kids?  No, it's a collector theory,  Make something that people want and slowly trickle more into the market causes people to buy more product in the long run.  How many Targets to you go to looking for a figure and how often do you just happen to walk out with another product. 

Here's a funny story - I was in my local WalMart and there was a mom with her son. The mother was clearly frustrated as her son was digging through the pegs. He was looking for the "red" clone - at first I figured he meant the Clone Commander, but in hind-sight he may have been looking for the Red Senate Guard - I'm not 100% certain.

Anyway, my point is that I could see that this mother was obviously trying to reward her son and bring him all over trying to find the figure he wanted, but she was CLEARLY getting tired of all the looking.

It doesn't matter what figure he wanted (Clone Commander or Red Royal Guard) the store didn't have either, so my son who was with me as well, went up to him and said - we already looked, they don't have that figure here - which was the truth, we had just got done looking for a clone commander ourselves. In the end, the kid and his mother left without picking up ANY figures.

So what Violentfix is saying is true - if the army builder figures like the Red Royal Guard, Clone Pilot and Clone Commander were readily available on the shelves, this kid would have made a purchase. But, because it wasn't, WalMart lost out on a sale AND the mother left with a very poor opinion about the Star Wars line - you don't think parents were fond of the Power Rangers toys when those figures were selling like hot-cakes do you?

Hasbro keeps telling us that they "do it for the kids" yet everything they do points to "doing it for the collectors". If it's truly for kids and not collectors then things like VOTC, Evolutions 3-packs, Unleashed or even the 500th Darth Vader - should not even exist!

The Kenner line was for kids - there was ONE Tatooine Luke, ONE Darth Vader, ONE Chewbacca, ONE Emperor, etc... Only a collector line will support continual re-releases of the same character in the same outfit for ten years.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: More Target Exclusives?
« on: April 26, 2005, 05:10 PM »
Jesse - it's like you were telling my story all over again.

The boom of eBay has changed everything and while I don't mind eBay per se, I do hate what it has done to the toy collecting industry.

It has become easy for Target/WalMart/TRU employees to subsidise their income by selling the "hot" toys on eBay. Stores say they don't let employees open up cases of stuff in the stock room - but they do! Just look at my story - when I finally convinced them to bring some Clones out, they brought me an open case with only four of the Clones left. What the heck happened there?

The only logical conclusion can be that a Target employee saw the case, opened it up and bought a bunch of them for sale on eBay. The only reason why there was a case left at all is because I think to have taken the entire case it would have meant that he/she would have actually had to check it out of inventory which means their activity would be traceable.

The important thing to remember is that Target's policy stands - if they have an item in stock and there is a place to put that product on the shelves (oh and for the $13 clone, the Lava Vader is THE spot - no more Lava Vaders are coming), the employees are REQUIRED to bring out the merchandise to you, regardless of what store-printed signs exist, what kind of assine department managers you run into and especially regardless of whether or not they think you are a collector, scalper or parent shopping for a kid.

I'm sure some of you have already read the story, but I actually got a department manager fired at Target around XMas time because he wouldn't re-stock the transformers pegs. He started mouthing off to me about being a scalper and that I couldn't possibly have a son at my age, etc.... That dick was never seen or heard from since and to be honest, this is the only store where I'm a jerk - cause when an employee in there starts to give me a hard time I just go - "Did you know Dan, the manager who got fired?" and I just grin when they respond "Yes", cause my immediate response is "well I'm the guy who got him fired after he gave me a hard time" - you should see how fast their toon changes.

I hate being a jerk like that sometimes, but what I hate more is being a slave to Target's lazy or dishonest employees.

That's cool.

You knew where I was going with it---I hate to see scalpers buy four only to take those four and resell them on the monster that is ebay.


Oh totally - I wasn't offended by your comment at all. I totally understand the frustration on the part of many JDer's who went to CIII, were either shut-out from buying one or got fed up, only to see other people wandering around with entire cases of them!

Personally I think what is happening now with this figure is what should have been done with the Jorg Sacul. You just can't meet demand accurately by limiting the figure to a specific event in a specific location. I hope that all of those dealers who bought boat-loads of them this past weekend have to eat them!

Want to see something funny - check out BriansToys - he has the C3 Vader up for $80 on his site - what a joke!

They need to cut the limit to 2 per customer.

No offense, but I don't know why anyone needs four... ???

Actually, I can understand where you're coming from, but here's my count break-down.

1 - for me to have MOC
1 - for me to open
1 - for my grandson - I get him one of every exclusive
1 - for my friend who I know will want one

In stock at the swshop - run, don't walk...NOW!


I just placed my order for four of these things!

Not to gloat too much, but based on the horror stories I've heard from CIII, I'm so glad I decided to save my money for buying ROTS toys instead of travelling to Indiana!

Revenge of the Sith / Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
« on: April 25, 2005, 12:36 PM »
The Ep2 Yellow Clone comes with a regular helmet and a pilot helmet.
The Ep3 Clone Commander comes with a regular helmet and the AT-TE Gunner attachment.
The Sandtrooper just comes with his helmet.

At first, Hasbro was saying that the Sandtrooper WOULD have a removable helmet, but then later in the day they were saying he WOULDN'T have one.    :-\

So, I guess really it's only 4 helmets for the 2 clones if the Sandtrooper is not slated for a removable helmet. 

You know what? The four helmet variations for the clones alone makes this set a MUST HAVE. The fact that I can interchange the AOTC clone from either a Clone Commander to a Clone Pilot - ROCKS! I also love the idea of a ROTS Clone Commander (?) with a removeable helmet and the gunner attachment.

I could care less if the Stormtrooper has a removable helmet or not - if you believe EU by the time of ANH they have several different templates for Stormtroopers (not just Jango Fett) which is why some Stormtroopers can't aim for ****.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: More Target Exclusives?
« on: April 25, 2005, 12:02 PM »
Ok - so I just opened one at work - this figure doesn't have any socket or plug-hole for an attena to be attached to so this isn't exactly figure #41 with a different paint-op.

The figure comes with a pistol and a rifle and is articulated with ball joints at the shoulders, elbows, ankles and knees. Unfortunately the hips are the standard pivot joint - I would have LOVED it if this figure had the hips of the AT-TE Tank Gunner.

As people have already noted the red half-circles symbol is painted on the chest, the helmet, the right upper-arm and the right thigh.

Is this figure a great army builder? YES! But I'm sure you all already knew that. Which makes the price tag and exclusiveness of this piece all that more annoying.

The packaging is the same as the Lava Vader except for the following:
1) The star-case outer shell is made of sturdier plastic.
2) The star-case has a J-Hook instead of a hole to be punched out
3) The backer card that is behind the figure is printed on thicker cardstock then was used for the Lava Vader.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: More Target Exclusives?
« on: April 25, 2005, 08:56 AM »
Well - I went to the Target store in Brick, NJ armed with the DPCI number.

First I punched it into the price scanner and it told me that they did have the item in stock.

Next I called on the phone and asked for help.

When the person came, at first they weren't going to help - I pointed to the pegs where the Lava Vader is supposed to be and told her that the 12.99 clone trooper is supposed to go there. She started to argue with me because the Target employees had placed regular figures on those same pegs.

After a bit back and forth, she called over a manager who made her punch the Clone Trooper DPCI number into her gun and then told her to go pull a case from that location.

When she finally came back with the case, they were seemingly quiet. One of the employees I was dealing with had once told me that employees are not allowed to open cases in the back -- well the case they brought out HAD been opened AND there were only four clones still in it!

So I said to the manager and the other employee, "Oh gee, look at that, the case has already been pilfered by employees in the back - what a shock!" At this point, they wouldn't even look me in the eye 'cause they knew I was right.

Why does everything involving Target have to feel like going into a court and pleeding your case like a lawyer?

Revenge of the Sith / Re: More Target Exclusives?
« on: April 24, 2005, 09:54 PM »
I hate myself for this, but I want to buy and open at least 3-4 of them.   >:(

I know a lot of people seem to love Target and detest Walmart, but I'm pretty much the opposite.  Target seems like scalpers with stuff like this.   ::)

As far as stock and the ability to help their customers, Target wins hands down. As far as the employees go, your choices are non-existent (WalMart) and a mixed bag (Target).

It seems to me in all of my years of collecting and hitting both of these chains for stuff that WalMart employees are just not even interested in helping a customer - for ANYTHING. Did you know that WalMart has the same inventory control scanning guns that Target does? The only difference is that WalMart employees don't want to help you, period - no matter what you are trying to buy.

With Target at least, they have a good turn-over of product, never seem to over-order on any one assortment and if you're lucky you'll run into an employee who is at least going to TRY to help you.

If you go into Target and basically turn the situation to your favor then Target's own policy dictates that they have to help you. Looking for Collection 2 figures, clear three pegs that have the tag for Collection 2 and then ask for them to fill the pegs. You get around any sign they have posted because you are asking them to replenish shelf-space with product they have in stock.

If you can't free up some pegs then, well, you're out of luck. It's unfortunate, but I can also see Target's point in not wanting to have too much product on the floor to the point where the aisle becomes a mess either. This is also WalMart's biggest problem - the stores usually look like BOMBS have just gone off, where as Target stores are typically tidy and well organized.

I too am a bit disappointed that this SA Clone Paint-op variant is an exclusive. I can see this one being harder to get than the Lava Vader for a couple of reasons:

1) There is no set street date for the item - with Lava Vader it was the morning of April 2nd and you got a ticket. For this figure it's up in the air when it will hit the pegs (if at all in some areas based on eBay auctions).

2) Army builders, army builders, army builders. While I don't mind them as a collector sub-set, I'm guilty of the same thing Chewie is - right now I'm thinking that I want to pick up at least FIVE of these - one to keep MOC and the other four to open to add to my ever growing ROTS clone army. I just hope that 50,000 wasn't the order quantity of these, otherwise, we're screwed.

As for on-line sales, be careful - Hasbro said they will try to do it, but it would be VERY limited quantity and there would be no guarantee on condition of the figures.  I think RS may have been reading into the comment a bit too much...  :(

RS mis-represent a quote from Hasbro? I'm shocked and appalled by this accusation!



- Peter

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Anakin Starfighter Exclusive?
« on: April 24, 2005, 08:31 AM »
I have determined that the ONLY way I'm going to get versions of Anakin to actually fly his ships - either Clone Wars or ROTS is to get an extra one of those Evolutions 3-packs. The soft goods combined with VOTC level articulation should allow for both the Padawan Anakin and the Jedi Knight Anakin to fit in all three of the starfighters.

I think it is pretty lousy that the TRU exclusive includes the EXACT SAME Anakin figure that as released as C1-#2 - they could have at least given the figure a soft-goods skirt to allow him to sit better in the ship. Also the damn action feature on both Anakin and Obi-Wan have caused the figure to have slightly longer torsos than the standard figure. So this means that they sit a little tall in the starfighter too. Just ONCE, I'd like a ship w/figure exclusive to include (a) a decent figure and (b) a figure that was compatible with the vehicle.

If they make an Evolutions 3-pack of Obi-Wan, I'm hoping they do all three from the PT - that way you'll get a great Padawan Obi-Wan, a nice AOTC Obi-Wan that should fit both in the Starfighter AND the Yellow Speeder and a nice ROTS Obi-Wan that will fit in his fighter. I don't have much hope for the basic release Obi-Wan Pilot figure coming out later this year.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: More Target Exclusives?
« on: April 24, 2005, 08:25 AM »
Can anyone confirm that the DPCI number from the first page of this thread is accurate: 087-06-1489 - I need that to start digging at my local Targets - they will most likely let it rot in the back until the employees have had plenty of time to dig through the cases.

So tomorrow morning, I'm going to try that DPCI # and see if they have any in stock. This is something to remember at ALL Target stores.

Target has a policy on bringing stuff out - it basically says that (a) they can not search for specific stuff and (b) they can not bring stuff out that is already well stocked.

Here are some ways around it though, and I know this is dirty pool, but Target is really starting to piss me off again...

1) Collect figures on pegs until there are a couple of pegs completely empty of either Collection 1 or 2 figures. If you have a Target with a price scanner that will indicate what's in stock - check before you start doing this, there's no point in freeing up a peg or two of C2 figures if they only have more C1 in stock.

After you've freed up some pegs, find the nearest assistance phone and press one - this will make a "Target Team Member" come running. When they get there, take them to where you have just made empty pegs and ask them to fill the empty pegs. They will do it! If you want to be EXTRA bold, ask them to stock it from the most recent location - each location has a date attached to it referring to when it came into the store - just politely ask them to pull from that location and you might hit pay-dirt.

2) This will only work if your Targets have a price scanner that allows you to punch in numbers. Go to the scanner and start punching in the numbers of stuff that isn't on the shelves. Things like the exclusive clone (087-06-1489) or the Mustafar playset (087-06-1334). If the item shows up as in stock. You can again, call on a customer service phone and then give them the DPCI number and explain to them that NONE of that variety/item is on the shelves. I would say that 9 times out of 10, they will go get it for you.

I used this method to buy the Deluxe figures and the Mid-size vehicles early.

Like I said, I know that it's dirty pool, but I still fail to understand why it is that Target is like they are regarding bringing stuff out. They have categorized Star Wars figures in the same group as Hot Wheels - this is something I find completely ridiculous. All of my Target stores have a "limit number of purchase per person" sign up, but I have yet to see anyone get turned away if they wanted to buy 10 figures.

Out of all of the chains, Target is also the place where I've run into the most unreasonable or jerkish deputy managers who are responsible for the area that includes Toys. When I see things like entire cases of these clones on eBay, I can't help but wonder why these guys seem to guard the product like it's gold that I'm trying to steal. The only reason I can figure is that they have an agreement with some local comic book shop guy who buys stuff from them directly from the back and gives them a kick-back for holding the stuff for them.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Anakin Starfighter Exclusive?
« on: April 23, 2005, 08:50 AM »
Just as a side-note to this exclusive. The Jedi Starfighter that Anakin takes to Mustafar is described in the novell as being Green & White.

So I guess this is a movie accurate version afterall - Anakin must take someone else's fighter when his and Obi-Wans end up trashed in the opening sequence.

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