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An even dozen now.  That's it for me.  The next Sandtrooper I buy should have ball jointed hips and a Dewback packaged with him.

Saga Collection '06 / Re: Saga Mace Windu's Jedi Starfighter
« on: July 16, 2006, 12:52 PM »
Scored this last night.  Altogether pretty cool.  But the astromech decals didn't fit very well.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: A thread about concerts.
« on: July 15, 2006, 01:29 AM »
I saw them when they did the Quadrophenia tour in the 90's.  They were AWESOME!  I was floored by the whole show, especially during "The Real Me" (since I'm a bassist)...John Entwistle was amazing!  It seems weird for them to go out on tour without him.  But I guess they had been doing shows without him for a while.  But to do a record as well just seems kind of weird.

Gentle Giant / Re: Gentle Giant Busts
« on: July 14, 2006, 06:51 PM »
The prices have been creeping up on the mini-bust line.  The standard price had been $45 for a regular bust and $50 for deluxe mini-busts (interchangeable arms, etc).  But the price for the Gen. Grievous bust started at $55, and it doesn't appear to be a deluxe piece.  It seems that Gentle Giant is raising their pricing in accordance with the increased demand for this line.

Saga Collection '06 / Re: Who wants resculpts?
« on: July 13, 2006, 10:47 PM »
Going by movie...

Qui-Gon Jinn
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Naboo Royal Guard
Senator Palpatine
Coruscant Guard
Battle Droid

Obi-Wan Kenobi
Anakin Skywalker
Padme - Arena Battle
Mace Windu
Jango Fett
Super Battle Droid (using some of the droid factory parts)

Emporer Palpatine

Owen Lars
General Jan Dodonna
Grand Moff Tarkin
Death Star Trooper

Princess Leia - Hoth
Princess Leia - Bespin Escape
Bespin Guard

Mon Mothma
Luke Skywalker - Throne Room Duel
A-Wing Pilot
Nien Numb
Emporer Palpatine

The Legacy Collection / Re: Fan's Choice Returns
« on: July 13, 2006, 05:52 PM »
I could counter this that your evidence is based on your own experience.  I would agree on wave 1 being overshipped.  As for the subsequent two waves?  Those were relatively more scarce.

So your initial and follow on statements weren't based on your personal experience? Or  are you assuming information from others/nationwide?

This is based on a couple of factors.  First, there's the secondary market demand at this time.  I see a limited ammount of Clone Wars product on the convention circuit, and when I do the prices are somewhat high ($15 - $20 range for Basic Figures).  I hit conventions throughout the Northeast as well as some of the midwest.  Also factor in online secondary market prices, and Clone Wars is still rather high in demand.

Additionally, some of my evidence is personal, anecdotal evidence.  However, I will offer that since I am in one of the largest population centers in the country, that what I've seen at retail is probably closer to the national statistical average.  It's all about the sample size.  The fact is that there are more retail outlets and more consumers involved in Star Wars in the NY metropolitan area.  Statistical studies will show you that the more data you have to compare, the closer you are to the statistical mean.

I'm sure the clone 3 packs were hoarded by army builders...but I was able to easily find the ROTS ones several times in stores (all types). Which is why I think the CW clone 3 packs never sat because they weren't shipped enough...which in turn is key for items not pegwarming...popularity counts (any type of clones related to an EU success argument probably shouldn't have been mentioned) but distribution quantity is vital.

I can't agree with your methodology here, because you're making an assumption that doesn't take into account the state of things in 2003/04.  I will agree that the CW Clone Trooper 3-packs were hoarded.  One of the main reasons?  The lack of other good AOTC Clone Troopers on the market at that time.  Here's what collectors had at their disposal in terms of Clone Troopers when these came out:

POTJ Sneak Preview Clone Trooper
SAGA Clone Trooper (red deco)
SAGA Deluxe Clone Trooper w/ speeder bike
SAGA Clone Trooper Pilot

And during the run of the Clone Wars line there were also the Mega-Buy 2-packs, the ARC Trooper, the SA Clone (VHTF) and the CW Deluxe Clone w/ speeder bike.  The CW Clone 3-packs were the only pieces to offer AOTC Clones in all of the ranking colors at that point.  That was a selling point for these sets.  It's the state of army building at the time that led the Clone Wars 3-packs to be as hot as they were.  They shipped, and they were bought up FAST!

Now fast forward to 2005.  There were a lot more offerings in terms of Clone Troopers in the ROTS Basic Figure line.  Plus we had also gotten the EE exclusive SA Clone Trooper 4-packs.  Those had raised the expectations of collectors, and as a result the Clone Trooper 3-packs in the ROTS Deluxe line weren't as widely hailed by collectors.  Especially when there were figures like the ROTS #41 Clone out there.  And the unit markings seemed less important this time around.  These shipped almost as much as the CW 3-packs, but frankly they came across as shoddy and I didn't see as many people army building with them in '05.  Circumstances were definitely very different.

The Legacy Collection / Re: Fan's Choice Returns
« on: July 13, 2006, 04:06 PM »

Good point... Clone Wars.....

My experience with that? HUGE PEGWARMING DISASTER. For the basic figs? Overshipped/distributed first 2 waves..3rd wave actually did well (low distribution quantity.

I could counter this that your evidence is based on your own experience.  I would agree on wave 1 being overshipped.  As for the subsequent two waves?  Those were relatively more scarce.

The deluxe line only the droid pack as (mentioned several times) pegwarmed...why? low distribution quantities on the jedi pack and clone 3 packs.

I think that the Droid pack didn't pegwarm so much as the Clone 3-packs and even the Jedi 3-packs were hoarded.  The droid 3-packs just proved to be less desirable when compared with the other sets.  The same goes for the Destroyer Droid launcher.  All of the deluxe pieces (Speeder bikes and Swoops included) were quite popular compared to those two pieces.

The Legacy Collection / Re: Fan's Choice Returns
« on: July 13, 2006, 03:01 PM »
Ok, my bad, I meant 1996 ;)

1996?  That was Kenner IIRC.  We've got a whole new regime in place now.

The Legacy Collection / Re: Fan's Choice Returns
« on: July 13, 2006, 02:51 PM »
Not sure if this has been said yet, but everyone thinks that EU won't sell because SOTE didn't sell. Well, this year we got 2 EU figures. One of them was probably the hardest to find figure out of the entire TSC, and the other was stil pretty rare. Some people have been saying at other forums how they are just now finding Foul Moudama!

So don't base how well 2007 EU will sell compared to how 1998 EU sold, because everything back then didn't sell well.

Agreed.  The sales have been good on EU items in the past 3 years.  I see a lot of very selective memory at work regarding Hasbro and the EU in this thread.  There's a lot of mention of SOTE but not so much mention of the POTF2 EU line.  I know there are a number of members of this board that are still actively seeking Space Troopers and Dark Troopers from that line.

And what about Clone Wars?  Clone Wars was the biggest EU cross-promotional event that we've seen.  I don't recall seeing that much from the Clone Wars line pegwarming.  In fact, some of the Clone Wars pieces are among the hottest items on the secondary market.  Try getting the Clone Wars Command Gunship now.  Some of the only poor sellers in the line were just poorly designed toys, like the Destroyer Droid launcher and el bandito Yoda.  ;D  But everything else appears to have sold quite well.  Especially the core characters and the EU characters that were introduced through this line.  There's also the matter of Clone Wars supporting not one, but two different figure line.  Fans gobbled up both the movie and animated lines.

Also, add in the fact that Clone Wars has been successful with licensees other than Hasbro.  Gentle Giant has done especially well with Clone Wars, and one of the most sought after pieces that Gentle Giant has ever released is a Clone Wars Padme.

There are also bound to be offerings for both of the television projects that are slated.  More Expanded Universe from the mind of Uncle George.  Hasbro has already stated that they're looking at those projects, but naturally things are still in a state of flux because of the nature of the productions and their estimated release dates.

I think Clone Wars has proven that Hasbro can make the EU work within the whole of the Hasbro Star Wars line.  There's no doubt in my mind that the Star Wars line will continue to be anchored by the movies.  The movies are the foundation of all that is Star Wars.  But as time rolls on and we move further and further past the movies, there's going to be a greater need to call upon the EU to supplement the releases from the Saga.  And if you're not down with that, then vote with your dollars and don't buy the EU releases.

Carnor Jax was definitely a predictable piece to be paired with Kir Kanos.  I'm okay with it.  It already seemed that Hasbro was headed down this path when they made the bodies of the ROTS Royal Guards the way they did.  My only gripe with the Guards is that I think they should have included the force pikes as accessories, otherwise I think they're great figures.

Crimson Empire is definitely one of the better storylines to come out of Dark Horse.  This particular TPB held my attention more than some others.  I guess if we have anyone to blame for the difference in the armor of Kir Kanos and Carnor Jax, it's Dark Horse.  It's a little too ying/yang (or like that silly Star Trek episode) for my tastes, but whatever.  I don't think we're going to see a line populated with Kir Kanos and Carnor Jax reissues for years to come.  Rather, it's a one-off kind of deal and that's it.  And this particular product isn't even going to mass retail.  It's an online exclusive and that's it.  This one won't be the source of any pegwarming or shelfwarming.

As for the backlash against the EU?  That was bound to happen.  Some people are into it and others aren't.  Arguing back and forth about it gets us nowhere.  Either you're going to buy it or not.  But looking at the track record of the EU at retail does get as somewhere.  Sure, SOTE was a stinker.  I remember seeing Snoovas sitting around, and SOTE Slave I's.  It wasn't good.  But then there was also the EU line.  And how many people are still clamoring for Space Troopers and Dark Troopers to this day?  And then there's the biggest of all EU projects:  Clone Wars.  I think we can say with some degree of certainty that Clone Wars was a success.  Especially when you consider that the Basic Figure assortment barely had any army builders in the lineup, ie it wasn't driven by army builders.  The EU really is here to stay.  Clone Wars proved that the EU can work within the overall scope of the line. 

I have no doubt that the Star Wars line is still going to be anchored by characters from the movies.  But as we get more and more characters from the PT and OT made, there's going to be a need for new characters to fill out the line.  There's just a finite number of characters in the Saga.  I think that we're going to see more EU characters filtering their way into the line bit by bit.

Gentle Giant / Re: Gentle Giant Busts
« on: July 11, 2006, 04:08 PM »
It was a much smoother checkout process.  I think GG took many of the comments to heart about the online store, because this was a much better process than any of the exclusive sales they've ever conducted.

Gentle Giant / Re: Gentle Giant Busts
« on: July 11, 2006, 03:40 PM »
Thanks for the link Tom.  Got my order in and my confirmation email before I ever got the official email from GG.  Glad to know that I won't be out in the cold like with the BHS.

Gentle Giant / Re: Gentle Giant Busts
« on: July 11, 2006, 02:37 PM »
You must be joking.  No email here yet.

Saga Collection '06 / Re: Saga Kit Fisto's Jedi Starfighter
« on: July 11, 2006, 02:07 PM »
I wonder why they've decided to go with the Aethersprite design with Kit Fisto.  Especially when you consider how big the Kit Fisto figures are and how cramped that particular cockpit design is.  I had trouble fitting the SAGA Obi-Wan pilot in that particular vehicle.  I wonder how difficult it's going to be to get Kit Fisto into this ship.

The Legacy Collection / Re: Fan's Choice Returns
« on: July 11, 2006, 01:16 PM »
Historically though, losers in the FC are made, I'd like to see the ranking 1-25 and see where the OT figures fell

Very true.  Many of the poll candidate who didn't win have been made.  Adam Pawlus did a good article about the Fan's Choice Poll history.  I've also got some analysis on the history of the poll HERE.

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