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Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 5, 2005, 04:14 AM »
And the nuggets of wisdom at Scum continue into the new day...  Who wants to guess which Einstein whipped this remark out?

Considering (like what steve said above) we pay US$13 per basic figure the price of these aren't that bad, I honestly think some people are just spoiled rotten "the Clone wars version was $5.99 so these figures should be that price as well" - times change and what a perfect way for them to earn more money. Yeah it does suck but if you (and I'm not aiming this at anybody) do have a problem with the price then just flat out refuse to buy them - simple as that.

Now, I'm not about to take a dump on foreign collectors because the fact of the matter is they are entitled to their opinions...  And the "Steve" mentioned in the above quote is Stylie Steve from Scum, and he's a good guy and not really complaining about anything other than saying he's content with the price, etc.

But, to those who ARE complaining that U.S. customers need to "stop whining" simply because in their native lands they spend more $ on toys than we do, I have a little word of advice...

**** costs more in your country because it's not considered a domestic product, and as such there's prices paid to import it. 

Yes, Hasbro's an American company, and yes, as an American company they can make their product available to their consumers cheaper. 

The simple fact is, we're talking about international economic boundariers and structures.  Something I'm going to wager the maroon who made the above comment knows little to nothing about, so he really ought to think before he opens his sucker and inserts his size 3 foot.

On a more simple note, you can use the comparison of cars and their costs as imports and exports.

Imports in the U.S. can cost an arm and a leg, depending on the quality of the car.  The same is said for U.S. imports however, when sold overseas.  U.S. pick-ups go for premiums overseas, as do good U.S. cars (My car actually has a large collecting club for it in Europe I guess...  I sure would've never known that, and apparantly the U.S. engine with Turbo is the more popular model...  Go figure).

While one's definition of "value" is subjective, that's a fundamental rule of economics, it's a shame to see so many of the European, Australian, etc., collectors out there so easily willing to lash out when not actually understanding that things cost more in their country for a reason.

U.S. collector's are griping legitimately...  This isn't our "standard".  Of course one could always just say "Well imagine you had to pay $23 USD for figures instead of $13 ya numbnuts!", but I doubt that point would drive home to them either.

And it's not even "them".  It's mostly this one maroon, but there's others.

Again, should Steve read this I hope he sees the point and isn't offended...  And this is by no means the majority of foreign collectors, but it is a handful who EVERY time a U.S. price is disputed by a U.S. consumer that they have to pipe in with comments filled with ignorance.

Hey, have any of you figured out just who would have said something that stupid yet?

Begins with a G, ends with a T, and his quote is one of only countless remarks of utter stupidity.  I shouldn't be as surprised as I am, but he never ceases to amaze, this kid out there.

JD Sports Forum! / Re: NHL Offseason
« on: January 5, 2005, 02:54 AM »
The other night FSP was airing old Stanley Cup games...  I loved watching those.  Finals with Minne in '91.  Great games.  They aired the last one on the night before NYE when I went out...  That was a wonderous game.

JD Sports Forum! / Re: NHL Offseason
« on: January 5, 2005, 02:30 AM »
I remember Fox Sports Pittsburgh (I think?) aired World Cup because I watched it. :)  It was on at every bar I went to also because my girlfriend kept asking why Hockey was on...

Celebration III: Indianapolis / Re: Star Wars Celebration 3
« on: January 5, 2005, 02:26 AM »
I think my room's at the Hampton Inn downtown.  It's a block or two away...  I forget.  We didn't all get rooms together at the same hotel.  I got my room last April/May actually, so I've had reservations for a year.

LFL was blocking off the Hampton Inn I guess, so I musta got in under the wire with them.

I'm gonna be nearer to the PA/Pittsburgh and Ohio guys I guess since I think many (or most) are going to be at that hotel.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Sci-Fi Hotties.. ONLY Sci-Fi
« on: January 4, 2005, 11:42 PM »
Erin Grey indeed.  Excellent...  I recall better outfits than that one though.  Ones that were opened...  very...  low...  like to the bellie button. 

Uh, I gotta google for a while, bbl.

JD Sports Forum! / Re: NHL Offseason
« on: January 4, 2005, 11:40 PM »
I'm with Scott...  It's here, as in it is in the paper...  It's getting coverage, but I have all of 3 sports channels I think (ESPN 1, 2, and Fox Sports Pittsburgh).

If I've learned anything about ESPN, it's terrible for sports...  :)

And Fox Sports Pittsburgh plays our local High School games, a few US College games, and of course the Pen's games and some Baby Pens games.

I will say that I doubt any city in the south even mentions hockey at the moment though.  Nashville probably doesn't even have 2 pages for a sports section I'd think.

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 11:37 PM »
Business courses should be mandatory in high school.

Maybe I'm tooting my own horn since it's "my thing" since 9th grade, but god damn how are people this illogical about stuff?

Again, I've said it over in Wuher's when things just go out of control, but I weep for the future.  Truly I do.  When Ebay starts setting the standard by which the actual INDUSTRY determines price (and by which consumers accept said prices), then I think we're all in some deep **** folks.

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 11:09 PM »
And, as per usual, Rebelscum's filled with people claiming this is the deal of the century...

One person's logic going so far as "Well the carded one sells for $20 on Ebay...  These are fairly priced!", all the while losing track of how business in America works.

Original Trilogy Collection / Re: Naboo Wave
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:36 PM »
At $7 a pop, get ready for an Episode One like glut, i do declare. :)

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:35 PM »
$25 on a case, I think.  Believe that's what I was told...

JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL 2004
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:28 PM »
hehe  :)

Steelers all the way...  The most solid team in the NFL IMO, even if our QB's a youngin'.  Not even saying that as a general Steeler's fan either.  I truly believe this is the best team since the glory days, and with tons of depth...

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:23 PM »
OK, nix me from being on the needy list...

Local guys are going in on a case so I'm going with them on this.  Will extra save on shipping too anyway.

I hope we all can get a set as reasonably as possible.   ::)

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:19 PM »
Don't prices go DOWN when you buy more of something at one time?

Theoretically, yes, but when it comes to Hasbro they seem to become scrooge with stuff and increase prices as more of it is sold. :)  They're the anti-thesis of Cost-Co.

Is ANYONE going in on a case that needs someone else in on it?

I really would like a set...  1 of each 4-pack, but I'm wanting cheapest price possible.  If nobody's got room left on going in on a case I need to look elsewhere...  Likely locally.

This really just pisses me off, as sad as it is to say.  I want these, but that price is downright offensive given what these should be selling to us for.

I'm already seeing tons of folk claim that it's the articulation that is making them cost so much...   ::)  How soon people forget that this figure's already been made, and that the mold toolings cost (highest single cost on any figure) have already been met, and now will only depreciate with EVERY unit sold of this product.  For every single one of those Clones, the mold cost is depreciating rapidly and will be no more than a packaging cost or materials cost by the time this cluster **** is all said and done I would wager.

****, these things should sell for LESS than $5 considering they're practically pure profit.

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 08:43 PM »
Would it literally or would it because Hasbro would say "But you get a poster!?" :)

Honestly, a poster adds little value or cost to it...  Really, they have not a solid excuse in their pockets as to the costs of these.  I'm seeing some label the term "exclusive" as a reason for increased cost, but when all the mold toolings are done and the packaging is relatively simplistic (which it is) then there's not even much cost there beyond basic production.

With the molds being tooled, these should be $5 a piece, or less.

They should chime in at the 4-pack TRU price, where you at least get something NEW in each set generally.

This is one of those days you don't know what to do with yourself as a collector...  You just got something you asked for, but not even VAGUELY in the ballpark of the price you asked for it at.  There's another cruel irony to all this.  The company that reads the boards, totally glossed over ALL the SA Clonetrooper discussions that have gone on around the net in the last year +, as they all said that "Wow if we got these in a 4-pack like the Stormtroopers and stuff, that'd be great".

So Hasbro decides to A) change the packaging...  OK, cool, I don't mind that in the least since it looks nice.  And then B) increase the price by what, 50% from what those other 4-packs ran?

And they were all but exclusive in name too as I recall.  The Stormie set WAS exclusive to the fan club for quite some time...  The others were "dumped" when the Fan club folded then...  

This is bull ****, plain and simple.  I'm as close to being genuinely pissed off at collecting as I have been in a long time.  This hobby shouldn't frustrate us to this extent, ever.  

Total crap my friends...  Total crap.

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 07:23 PM »
What more can I add?

Hasbro could've sold these damn things at retail and probably pushed more product, and made more $ for themselves.  At this stage of the game, I doubt people go ape **** and build mass armies with this...  I think we'll see it fail on some level, and Hasbro will take punishment out on us saying "well it didn't do well".

Yet another point in time the company won't pull its head out of its ass long enough to see the big picture, and that they could've easily moved that product at basic retail without having to screw its customers.

If someone needs another person to go in on a case, I'd really like to do that since it's the cheapest option to get a set.  Let me know, please.  I'm not sure after reading the thread exactly which of you guys need people to go in on one with you or not.

Just hit me up though!

This is a huge kick to the nuts...  It's a great concept, and it's something they needed to do for ages, but they executed like they do with so many other things by totally screwing us over in the process and then they'll blame the idea and the product instead of their own execution of it.  Great...  God dammit you know nobody running the show there is a fan at this point.

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