« on: October 3, 2004, 03:54 AM »
I'm not arguing your points Morgbug, as I agree... I don't like seeing Canuck teams falter, but the figures are against them.
My point is within Scott's entire point... The real problem's profit sharing and a cap... Copying the NFL to a tee so the NHL can prosper and competition is spread... And then to Holographic Elvis's point about restructuring the rules and enforcing them as well, so the game itself is more to the fast-paced hockey that draws ALL fans in.
My post was in regards mostly only to Holographic Elvis's idea to close a ton of teams down. You don't close off teams that are solid performers for the NHL and that will thrive in a competitive and economically friendly league. My hometown being one of them...
I think the expansion's out of control... Not that I think Phoenix is doing that poorly as an expansion team but I don't agree with them taking a team from Canada for it. Some of those teams I think are a bit much though, but not all of them. Columbus and Florida (one of the FL teams) namely.
I think there's room for all these teams, but it's the league that's screwed up, not the small market teams which Pittsburgh turned into... We weren't that way a little over 10 years ago though. We were the dominant team in the league by far and away... And fans still are supporting the Pens vehemently (though the arena thing's leaving a sour taste because we've got 2 stadiums we're paying on, and one's for a losing team that gives nothing back to the city *cough*pirates*cough*).
My post wasn't a shot at Canada, but rather a point that you don't close teams in the U.S. that have been here for ages, have a solid hockey foundation, have shown good performance, and have the ability to grow and expand, in favor of Canadian teams... It's the same problem you've got in Winipeg, but in reverse... I don't agree with closing shop and moving a team North or South of the border if they have a viable market, and Winipeg and Pitt both have that...
Columbus, Carolina, Florida, Nashville, Atlanta... I dunno. Atlanta's minorleage team always did well, but on those others I'm not so sure. I mean, Columbus isn't even really a "major" city in Ohio beyond being its capital. That's like saying Harrisburg's a major city in PA... It's just not the truth. It's our capital but Philly and Pittsburgh are considered the 2 "big names" here. I'm perplexed on the Columbus decision.
Washington was the ONLY older US team on HE's list I agreed with, and that's because they are just not behind that team and never have been. The caps would have dominant teams in the playoffs back when the Pens were winning cups, and you'd still see MORE fans from out of town than Caps Fans... You don't see that in Philly, Buffalo, or NY though, and I'd say each isn't but a hop, skip, & jump from Pittsburgh as well... No offense to any Caps fans here though, I just am speaking for what I've seen over all the years of playing them.
Anyway, I'm not in disagreement iwth your points MOrgbug, but I do disagree with catering to Canada at the cost of established U.S. teams just as the Canucks feel the same but in reverse order.
I say lock the NHL (teamwise) at what it is, sort out a salary cap and profit sharing, and revise the rules in grand fashion... Then you'll see a game ready for expansion on both sides of the border.