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The Legacy Collection / Re: The Return of Saga Legends
« on: August 18, 2008, 10:38 PM »
I'm still fighting the urge to pick up all of the figures in this line MoMC.

I did that with the Saga Legends line from last year. It is very disheartening to see that they're going to pull the same b.s. this year with four versions of the Clone Trooper Officers and Battle Droids.

I picked up a Super Battledroid only 'cause a friend of mine pointed out that it's not quite a re-release of the TAC figure since they filled in the holes that were the chest to accomodate the "flames".

The Clone Weapons Locker is a nice touch, and I was happy to have a set of different types of weapons that I could give my 12 member squad of SA 501st Troopers. It's cool to have each of them sporting a unique weapon.

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The Vintage Collection / Re: Hasbro Q&A Sessions
« on: August 18, 2008, 02:21 AM »
The Legacy Collection is turning out to be a great year for fans looking to see the remaining vintage figures redone in the modern line: B-Wing Pilot, Silver Death Star Droid (via a Build-a-Droid), (rumored) Imperial Dignitary Sim Aloo and Jabba's Palace Guard Klaatu (Wooof).

That's not too shabby. Throw in rumored Bespin Guards (hopefully this time in African-American and Disco Moustache varieties) and Hoth Echo Base Rebel Troopers and you're looking at the list dwindling down to just Ewoks.

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The Clone Wars '08-'13 / Re: Ahsoka Tano w/ Rotta the Hutt?
« on: August 18, 2008, 02:07 AM »
Now that the movie is out, I'm confused more than ever as to why Ashoka wasn't part of Wave 1.

I think they should have put Ashoka in Wave 1 and pushed Captain Rex back to wave 2. Captain Rex was offered via the mail-away promotion, so that could have been the only vehicle for him for a while, especially with that figure hitting mailboxes shortly after the 7/26 launch.

Perhaps this is just me and I'm unique, but if I was a kid, I'd want two figures right now - Anakin and Ashoka.

Since I had to wait almost five years for a Clone Scuba Trooper to be released, I'm guessing it won't be until 2013 when I'll see Hasbro produce a version of Ashoka for the regular "realistic" styled figure line either.

Yeah!  ::)

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Well of the Souls / Re: Recent Purchases
« on: August 18, 2008, 01:39 AM »
Never pass up carded figures if you have the cash.  Never.  I've collected since 1977-1985/1995 to present and it's my one Golden Rule of Collecting.  You never know what will become HTF.  Great find!

I have followed this rule as well - it's a great rule to live by. Sure you might see the figure again, but ALWAYS grab yourself the "sure thing" if it's there in front of you. This has helped me MANY times with Star Wars figures - Ephant Mon, the first release of the McQuarrie Stormtrooper and entire POTF2 EU wave of figures. Those are all figures I only saw at retail ONCE.


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Well of the Souls / Re: Hasbro 3.75" Deluxe Figures
« on: August 18, 2008, 01:34 AM »
I don't think that ANYTHING is coming...

Nope.

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Well of the Souls / Re: Is the line a Success?
« on: August 18, 2008, 01:33 AM »
Since there is a socket hole in the side of the German Motorcycle, I can guarantee that tools were produced for mass production of a side car at some point in the future.

This is another excellent candidate for release via HTS shipped in a plain white mailer box.

There are plenty of German Solider on Motorcycle sets out there right now. It would entice folks to buy a second Indy w/Horse too (granted the Indy is wrong, but it's the best Indy to put on the motorcycle).


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The Legacy Collection / Re: Recent Legacy Purchases
« on: August 17, 2008, 12:58 PM »
Bunch more Wave 2 figures shipped to my local WalMart this week - so I picked up 2 more each of the Scuba Clone, Quad Gun Clone and Lancer Droid bringing my squads of each figure up to four. I think that's my limit on these.

Now I have three extra R4 droids each missing a left leg. Nice. Couldn't the Quarren or Mon Calamari have finished off this droid?!?!

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Well of the Souls / Re: Is the line a Success?
« on: August 17, 2008, 10:41 AM »
I think at this point, the only reason we've seen the second RotLA wave is 'cause even though it's slated for "early 2009" that really means "holiday season 2008" so that wave should be hitting in December which is why some retailers are picking it up as a last ditch effort to see if the line sells.

If Hasbro didn't have any sales for that second RotLA wave, then we wouldn't have seen them at SDCC.

If you take their answer re: the card back art for TLC Wave #2 back when those figures were supposed to be part of TAC and the fact that they don't want to show it simply because it will never be used (which just seems crazy to me, you already paid the artist, why not sell a set of cardbacks for these figures?) - so no purchases  from retailers for RotLA Wave #2 = that slide getting deleted from the SDCC PPT deck.

It's also the same thing with the coins for the Force Unleashed figures - you already made the tools for them. Take pre-orders for a set of Force Unleashed figure coins on HasbroToyShop.com for a couple of months, use it to gauge interest, if you get enough sales of them, produce them, if not cancel everyone's pre-orders. But I doubt that product costs more than tooling so why not just make as many sets as you presell. Same thing with the cardbacks for the TLC Wave #2 figures. But anyway, I digress...

The four different Indy figures and two different Mutt figures are what really hurt this line. They could have cut the numbers for both characters in half, slotted in some more characters up-front like Toht or the German Mechanic or Marcus Brody (for the RotLA) and Marion or Oxley or Mac (for the KotCS wave) and then collectors would have probably bought MORE figures. Let me explain....

As it stands now, if you get one of each you got:
Indy w/Fertility Idol
Indy (Streets of Cairo) w/Whip Action
Indy w/Bazooka
Indy w/Crystal Skull
Mutt w/Sword
Mutt w/Snake

That's a total of six figures.

If instead they had used those same six slots to release:
Indy w/Removeable Hat, Jacket, satchel, working holster, fertility Idol, whip clip, 2-whip versions & gun from RotLA
Toht
Indy w/Removeable Hat, (no jacket torso), satchel, working holster, Crystal Skull, whip clip on belt, 2-whip versions, bazooka & gun from KotCS
Oxley
Mutt w/Cloth "Leather Jacket", sword and switch-blade
Marion w/Snake ('cause she was in that scene too)

That's still six figures, but if they took the time and made the heads swapable between the two Indys, that would mean a total of EIGHT figures sold.

The Indy w/Bazooka figure would work JUST FINE if you wanted to make a streets of Cairo version of Indy if you could just pop the head from the RotLA Indy onto that body. But you can't 'cause the heads are not compatible. Same thing with making a Jacketed Indy figure from KotCS. Just take the spare body you have now and combine it with the older Indy head, now you have a KotCS version of Indy in full garb. They would have doubly sold each Indy figure.

Now before you start saying "but they saved on tooling by having four Indy figures" - sure they did, but not by much. The Streets of Cairo Indy figure has a mechanism that had to be tooled and does not share any parts from other Indy figures. It's head isn't even compatible with the Fertility Idol Indy figure. Sure the legs on the two KotCS Indy figures and the Fertility Idol Indy are the same and the two Jacketed versions share the same arms (although they did give us a second left hand for the KotCS Indy - I would have much rather had a handless version of the crystal skull) - the Jacket piece that goes over the torso is DIFFERENT between the two Jacketed figures only because the RotLA Indy has a working over-sized holster and the KotCS Indy has a smaller non-working holster. They should have just gone with a a holster that was somewhere in between - working but not oversized to accomodate the flap and "button".

Collectors also have the ability to "pass" on certain versions of the same character so even if you aren't like me and would have been compelled to buy two of each Indy figure so you could perform a head-swap. If you're collecting purely based on one of each character, you loose the liability of the jacket-less Mutt and then gain the extra sales of the Toht, Oxley and Marion figures.

Some other things that they could have done? Skip the Marion & Cairo Thug 2-pack - just released two versions of the Cairo Thug 2-pack, right off the bat.

They appear to have no problem shipping the Toht figure with a second head INSIDE THE PACKAGE (which is something they say they'll never do with a Star Wars figure) - so why not package variant heads of Dovchenko, Irina, the German Soldier and Russian Solider in their packages? How many people are going to buy TWO Toht figures (if he comes out) anyway? I know I am, one to display with one head and one to display with the second head. If they had packaged a Irina w/Glasses second head in the package with her, I would have happily bought two of that figure. Same thing with Dovchenko - he has his hat on like once in the movie - each time he's fighting with Indy he's got no hat on, so why not make a version of his head w/o the hat. The variant Russian and German solider heads would have helped that sell even MORE than they did as well.

I really hope that the lack of retailer interest in the line for these last two waves ToD and RotLA #2 just means that they will easily be picked up from HTS. Which brings me to my next point. Start taking PRE-ORDERS for six-packs of the RotLA #2 wave - one of each figure except two of Toht. I know if it meant I was guaranteed all of the figures I need from that wave, I would happily place a pre-order for that six-pack of figures. Heck start offering a pre-order for a six-pack of the ToD figures too. Then also offer a pre-order for say a three-pack of Thugee soldiers too.

The tools are made for these figures, why not just try as many avenues as possible to get them sold?

One more thing - why are they saying "no" to stuff to readily? HTS seems to have no problem selling Cobra Commander in a Suit as a SDCC exclusive so why not give me a Professor Indiana Jones in a suit figure? Or a Donovan in Suit figure? Or a Colonel Dietrich figure? If they feel that collectors are the only driving force for the line, just keep offering one-off figures each year as SDCC exclusives. How hard could that be?

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Well of the Souls / Re: Is the line a Success?
« on: August 16, 2008, 11:41 PM »
So the news gets worse and worse when it comes to this line...

For me the biggest revelation this week is that Dietrich from RotLA won't be coming since he was planned, but not planned for the first wave of 2009.

So even though they said there would be a Ark Ghost, now there won't. They said there would be a Col. Dietrich, but now there won't.

I highly doubt there will be any more $20 vehicles beyond the second version of the Truck. I also think the Mutt w/Motorcycle and Cairo Thugs will be the last two "new" deluxe figures we see as well.

It's really a shame that this line did not sell as well as Hasbro had hoped.


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The Legacy Collection / Re: Legacy Collection Rumors
« on: August 11, 2008, 11:05 PM »
What would be the harm in them keeping the Falcon hitting the shelves from now until the end of the holiday shopping season?

It makes no sense to me at all to have roughly $250 of product come out now only to have a completely new set of $250 worth of product coming out for Christmas.

Can the collector community bare the burden of this much product? Perhaps, but I think the size of that community is definitely pretty small. How many kids are going to get more than one $100 - $150 items? Not too many.

They should let the BMF and AT-TE sit on shelves as long as possible so that their sales numbers can benefit from the holiday shopping season. Let the Death Star and Juggernaught be the big items in 2009.

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Well of the Souls / Re: Is the line a Success?
« on: August 11, 2008, 07:30 PM »
Well, in the last 13 years I've learned that Hasbro is incredibly stubborn and will do stuff we both like and dislike. Even if the backlash is extremely negative (Saga Legends, etc.) Hasbro will still go through with their plans, so I figured the IJ line was safe. But when they stated in the Q&A that Marcus Brody was very unlikely to be made, I knew it was over. I figured Hasbro would at least still be able to keep a small section of stock in the toy aisles but this line is pretty much dead now that Hasbro seems to be losing support. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. I think I'm going to order a case of TOD and Raiders 09 figures online, hell maybe even TLC since I won't ever see any more of them.

Yeah - their answers last week re: a Marcus Brody figure were VERY telling IMHO.

They don't seem to want to discuss anything beyond the second RotLA wave.

The lame battle packs aren't going to help matters either. If they had at least put some variants or re-paints in there, some of us might have been tempted to make a purchase, but as it stands now, there's no point to these things unless you have still YET to grab all of the figures in the set.

I think I too will look into buying the ToD and '09 RotLA wave online just to make sure I can get them. It's a shame, I really wanted to army build the Thugee soldiers too.  :(

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Well of the Souls / Re: Hasbro 3.75" - 2008 Wave 4 (ToD)
« on: August 11, 2008, 07:19 PM »
I hope this wave isn't as elusive as the Last Crusade wave.

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Well of the Souls / Re: Hasbro 3.75" Vehicles
« on: August 11, 2008, 07:16 PM »
According to wellofthesouls.com, "KOTCS Duck" and "ROTLA Flying Wing" have both been entered into Wal-Mart computer systems. I hope the retailers support the line long enough for us to actually see them in 09!

This is good news. The only concern I have is that from reading the latest Indy Q&A answers, it seems that Indy hasn't performed as well as Hasbro hoped. When asked about a Marcus Brody figure from almost EVERY site, was it just me, or where their answers very defeatist in tone? One answer said something about how MAYBE they might be able to get to him if they do figures for Indy V. What?!? That to me sounds like they are looking to see the line end shortly after the second wave of RotLA figures hit.

That kinda stinks, but it does not surprise me. About the only thing I'll be disappointed in if that happens is that we did not get all of the vintage Kenner figures re-made - we still need a regular Belloq figure.

I've no real interest in the flying wing because it will most likely be like the Sith Infiltrator--- tiny, and way out of scale.  That things wingspan should be about the size of the new Falcon.

If the wings come detached, hypothetically they could give us a flying wing with a wing span of over double the length of one of the vehicle assortment boxes - it could come in three pieces: Center w/cockpit and rear gunner station, left wing, right wing. It will still be too small, but it would be cool to have this in the line.


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Well of the Souls / Re: Hasbro 3.75" Deluxe Figures
« on: August 11, 2008, 07:11 PM »
Grabbed the Thugs the other night too. No sign of the Mutt w/Motorcycle figure. I guess someone came in and snatched them all up or the WM where I found them got in cases where there weren't any Mutt w/Motorcycle figures in the ratio. I had thought the thugs were only packed at 1 per case while Mutt was at 2 per case. Since there was easily 8 - 10 Thug sets, does that mean that this store sold through 16 - 20 Mutt Williams figures in two days?! That seems highly unlikely to me considering how poorly the basic Mutt figures sell.

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The Legacy Collection / Re: Legacy/Clone Wars Rarities?
« on: August 11, 2008, 07:04 PM »
For me it's also been the Rebel Pilots Legacy #2 Evolutions set.

I have one that I grabbed at Target prior to the 7/26 launch - and that's it. I only want one more to open.

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